Re: [FairfieldLife] Last post on this subject for me......

2008-05-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Reaction to Clinton Remarks and ApologyBy David Knowles
May 23rd 2008 8:55PMFiled Under:eHillary Clinton, Democrats, Barack Obama, 
Breaking News


This is not the way Hillary Clinton wanted to go into the holiday weekend. The 
reaction to her remarks and apology has been swift and damning, even from those 
that otherwise support her:

The New York Times:

Mrs. Clinton tried to excuse her inexcusable outburst by saying she was 
distracted by the shock of the news of Senator Edward Kennedy's malignant brain 
tumor. But there was something familiar about what she said, and thanks to Ben 
Smith of Politico, we remembere what it was. Mrs. Clinton said basically the 
same thing in an interview with Time on March 6:

'I think people have short memories. Primary contests used to last a lot 
longer. WE all remember the great tragedy of Bobby Kennedy being assassinated 
in June in L.A..'

What's next? 'Mistakes were made'?


The Washington Post:

Smart candidates don't invoke the possibility of their opponents being killed. 
This seems so obvious it shouldn't need to be said, but apparently, it needs to 
be said.


Mike Litwin in The Rocky Mountain News:

I knew the ending would get ugly, as it does in any close contest. But I 
wasn't counting on this ugly, or, for that matter, this embarrassing before 
Clinton could figure a way to leave the filed of combat with, as we say, 
dignity.


Time magazine:

Her excuse now is that the Kennedys have been 'much on my mind these days' 
with the illness of Senator Edward Kennedy, but that doesn't explain what 
brought it to mind more than two months ago.

NY Daily News:

Clinton's embarrassing comment was the worst gaffe of a campaign universally 
considered doomed. 

It was certain to complicate--and perhaps destroy--her chances of wresting the 
nomination from Obama or of becoming his running mate, an idea some of her 
operatives and supporters have floated.


Andrew Sullivan:

As for her argument that June primaries are nothing new, she is correct. But 
in no previous primary election did the voting start just after New Years' Day. 
The New Hampshire primary in 1968 was on March 12, two months later than this 
year...

...She's been waiting for Obama to implode. Instead, she just has.


Joe Klein:

I may be among the few journalists who actually likes Clinton. She's a fine 
person, who takes her job--and the public good--seriously. I certainly value 
her service as my Senator. And I haven't joined the chorus of those who want 
her to quit--that's up to her. But it is extremely sad to watch this. It's sad 
to see her desperate and making mistakes that may haunt her in the future. I 
hope, in the wake of this, she takes a deep breath--and a day off--and thinks 
carefully about how she wants to play out the rest of this campaign. 

Pajamas Media:

This is the gaffe of gaffes, the Mother of all campaign faux pas. There's no 
taking it back at this point.


Josh Orton at MyDD:
 
...we cannot divorce her comments from her public stature, her intelligence, 
her responsibility as a leader, or our history. So even with the most 
charitable interpretation, I think her negligence is disqualifying.

 
 And Jonathan Singer, also at MyDD:
 
...if this is the type of language that Clinton will be using for the duration 
of this primary process, I have a real problem with her continuing her 
campaign.

 
 Taylor Marsh:
 
Is this thing over yet? That's what many are feeling today, as everyone is as 
close to the breaking point with fatigue as it comes. We need a long weekend. 

 
 Sadly, No!:
 
OK, I've defended Hillary against sexism. I can't defend her against charges 
of being completely tasteless... ...I got nothin' to add to this. Wow.


Blue Oregon:

It is time for Oregon superdelegates to end this. I am looking at you Ron 
Wyden and Bill Bradbury and you Frank Dixon and you Wayne Kinney and you Gail 
Rasmussen and you Meredith Woods-Smith.

Do you condone Hillary Clinton using the specter of the assassination of Barack 
Obama as her rationale for staying in this race?


Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The purpose of posting this comment is to show that many people have heard this 
in the same way.   I am paying a lot of attention to this campaign because it 
is very important to me as an African American.   Sometimes listening to things 
it may be that I may hear what I think or want to hear and not what is actually 
being said.   Yet with this issue and several others by Senator Clinton many 
people are hearing things as I have.   

I did not back down on the polls posting I posted them as they were.   One 
thing I can say is I prefer when a racist says I am a racist and to me you are 
a Nigger.   For me he has stated where he is coming from thus I know where I 
stand with him and where he stands with me.   When people say no and mean yes 
that is another subject.   

In the statement below this person is stating outragenot race.

Mrs. Clinton had  used 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stupid is as Stupid Does

2008-05-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When someone is having a meltdown there is no need to 
 kick them or stab then or spit on them. No need. 

So true. If someone is having a meltdown on
Fairfield Life, all one has to do is wait
for 24 hours, and they'll be gone for the
rest of the week.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that anti-Iraq war films 
 simply don't do very well at the box office since the beginning of 
 the Gulf War.
 
 Can you name one anti-war film that's done well?  Redacted?
 
 And I don't think the reason is that the movie-going public is PRO 
 Iraq War; it's more a factor of fatigue.

For once, I agree with Shemp. But I would use
the word denial instead of fatigue. It's
more of a I don't have to think about the war;
the people we pay to make decisions for us will
think about the war...it's not MY kids dying
thang than it is a pro-war thang.

 Why should I shell out 18 dollars to get even MORE of it (there 
 are one or two protest songs about the war on the album) when 
 I want to get AWAY from it for a few minutes!

The phenomenon Shemp is describing is not fatigue.
It is more accurately called plausible deniability.
It's the same whine we heard from on-the-street 
Germans after WWII. We didn't know what was happen-
ing to the Jews...it's not OUR fault. 

I think what Shemp is trying to say is that he does
not CARE whether people in Iraq are dying, or whether
Americans are dying. All he wants is his entertainment,
so he can listen to boppy, uptempo music in peace and
count his money.

THIS is why Europeans have lost hope in America.

It's not because of Bush; it's because of the American
PEOPLE. They no longer CARE what their government does
in their name, as long as the entertainment never
stops.





[FairfieldLife] Obama's progressed Jupiter!

2008-05-25 Thread cardemaister
Obama's Progressed Jupiter

First, Obama's Uranus at 25º Leo opposes the U.S. Moon, which is his
direct and radical connection to the American people. The orb is
extremely tight. The U.S. Moon at 25º28' Aquarius and Obama's Uranus
at 25º15' makes an orb of less than 1/4º, which is tighter than
anything in McCain's chart. It's what allowed Obama to surpass other
well-known and popular national candidates, notably John Edwards, who
has zero natal or progressed connections to the U.S. Moon.

But above and beyond this vital link, Obama's chart is charmed in rare
and magnificent ways. His natal Uranus is conjunct his North Node at
27º Leo in the tenth house of his professional standing, and the two
(Uranus and NN) are being activated by his progressed Jupiter at 27º
Capricorn. Activated Jupiter-Uranus combinations are frequently found
in celebrity charts, especially when they're headlining in the news
cycle. They foster the exciting enthusiasm, the charismatic aura, and
the multimedia buzz that money can't buy.

But Obama's progressed Jupiter at 27º Capricorn also happens to be
conjunct the U.S. Pluto, the nation's ruling planet. Jupiter to Pluto
attracts the attention and support of America's wealthiest and most
influential people. His P2 Jupiter is standing direct, so will be in
this degree area (where it forms a precise quincunx to his North Node)
for many years, promising a bright future in American politics. And to
add yet another phenomenal astro-event, one that put this enduring P2
Jupiter complex into play in early 2008, was his progressed Sun
forming a trine to his P2 Jupiter during the early primaries. It was
already a strong influence in January and became exact on March 7, by
which time many observers claimed that he had an insurmountable lead
over Hillary Clinton.

To summarize, here's a shorthand version of Obama's key planetary gems:

Natal Uranus opposite U.S. Moon (orb 0º13')
Natal Uranus conjunct North Node in 10th (orb 2º03')
P2 Jupiter quincunx North Node (orb 0º01')
P2 Jupiter conjunct U.S. Pluto (orb (0º14')
P2 Sun trine P2 Jupiter, exact March 7, 2008

There's one more astro-event in play that might very well carry him to
the inauguration in January 2009. His progressed Venus was nearly
conjunct natal Uranus when he announced back in February 2007. As this
aspect grew stronger over the next few months, Obama's popularity
escalated as he began drawing crowds larger than all the other
candidates' crowds combined. Venus rules a candidate's general popular
appeal, and when it's conjunct Uranus, crowds can get pretty wild and
crazy, almost irrational in their manic support.

Obama's P2 Venus, moving at the rate of 1º12' per year, is now
approaching the conjunction with his North Node, which of course picks
up the rich support from his P2 Jupiter. These two aspects, P2 Venus
conjunct North Node, and P2 Venus quincunx P2 Jupiter, become exact on
January 23 and January 28, 2009, respectively. This is the same week
as the next presidential inauguration, and one would be hard put to
find a more favorable astrological set-up. So add these two gems to
the above rare and phenomenal conditions:

P2 Venus conjunct NN (exact Jan 23, 2009)
P2 Venus quincunx P2 Jupiter (exact Jan 29, 2009)

Barack Obama's chart does show some severe challenges between now and
election day, so here's what's standing in his way. From the natal
chart, his Sun's only major aspect is the square to Neptune at 8º
Scorpio. At its best, the Leo Sun becomes inspired by Neptune's
vibrations, and the leadership role becomes one of inspiring others,
leading them to a hopeful future. The downside of this is that it
lacks practical experience, the kind of nuts-and-bolts approach that
Hillary Clinton and John McCain portray.

Obama's Neptune is exactly conjunct the U.S. Scorpio Ascendant, making
him a screen for Americans' highest hopes and dreams. It can work the
other way around, meaning that people can become disillusioned by what
he represents, or that he may be revealed as something other than how
he portrays himself. He was born during John F. Kennedy's Camelot
days, and as we all know now, that youthful, visionary, peace-loving
image that the Kennedy family presented became tarnished when his
sexual adventures were exposed years later. 

Considering the challenging outer planet transits, probably the most
significant is Uranus opposing Obama's Mars three times. The specific
dates are June 2 and July 21, 2008, and March 9, 2009, but
collectively they represent a lengthy phase when he comes under attack
from his political enemies. Since Mars is the co-ruler of his Scorpio
Ascendant, a Uranus hit can be particularly damaging to his standing.
Transiting Uranus to Mars is a volatile, explosive energy, and
anything can happen...

http://www.neptunecafe.com/obama.html



[FairfieldLife] Spelling of Obama's first name?

2008-05-25 Thread cardemaister

Barak or Barack?

The Believe-poster here

http://www.neptunecafe.com/Obama08.html

has 'Barak'...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Stupid is as Stupid Does

2008-05-25 Thread TurquoiseB
With regard to the title of the post:

JudyQuote1:
  Deranged. You're deranged. Not just REELY REEELY
  STOOOPID, although you're that too.

JudyQuote2, posted only seconds later:
 It may have been faulty, in the sense that it wasn't
 perfectly parallel. But, I repeat, it's DERANGED to
 think she meant it any other way.

Did everyone notice the escalation here?

In Judyworld, putting things in all caps is a 
way of making her specious arguments seem more 
definitive and authoritative.

Recently, she perceived that calling people 
stupid wasn't really having the full effect 
she was looking for, so she escalated the term 
to REELY REEELY STOOOPID. 

All the difference in the world. Makes it a more 
powerful and intellectually sound argument, you 
see.

Now she's done the same with deranged. Not
powerful enough in lowercase, she escalates it
to all caps and SHOUTS it. 

I think the theory here is that making 48 
hysterical, over-the-edge posts in one day and 
shouting out the word DERANGED over and 
over in them is, to Judy, a convincing way to 
prove that she ISN'T deranged. 

Interesting logic. But, as the thread title
suggests, Stupid is as stupid does.

Or should that be STOOOPID is as 
STOOOPID does? 

H. MUCH more powerful and authoritative the 
second way. If you think like Judy, that is.





[FairfieldLife] Common sense prevails!

2008-05-25 Thread Hugo




 http://tinyurl.com/427362





[FairfieldLife] raamakrisha viloma kaavyam

2008-05-25 Thread cardemaister

Here's raamakrishna -viloma-kaavyam 
by DaivajñapaNDita suurya-kavi

Read normally it's about Krishna (kRSNa),
read from the end to the beginning, about Raama.
Note that the palindrome reading should
be done by(?) syllables, not by letters.



taM bhuusutaamuktimudaarahaasaM 
vande yato bhavyabhavaM dayaashriiH |
shriiyaadavaM bhavyabhatoyadevaM 
saMhaaradaamuktimutaasubhuutam.h || 1||
\smallskip

chiraM viraMchirna chiraM viraMchiH 
saakaarataa satyasataarakaa saa |
saakaarataa satyasatyasataarakaa saa 
chiraM viraMchirna chiraM viraMchiH || 2||
\smallskip

taamasiityasati satyasiimataa 
maayayaakshamasamakshayaayamaa |
maayayaakshasamakshayaayamaa 
taamasiityasati satyasiimataa || 3||
\smallskip

kaa taapaghnii taarakaadyaa vipaapaa 
tredhaa vidyaa noshhNakR^ityaM nivaase | 
sevaa nityaM kR^ishhNanodyaa vidhaatre 
paapaavidyaakaarataaghnii pataakaa || 4||
\smallskip

shriiraamato madhyamatodi yena
dhiiro.anishaM vashyavatiivaraadvaa
dvaaraavatiivashyavashaM nirodhii
nayedito madhyamato.amaraa shriiH || 5||
\smallskip

kaushike tritapasi ksharavratii
yo.adadaad.advitanayasvamaaturam.h |
rantumaasvayana tadvidaadayo.a
tiivrarakshasi patatrikeshikau || 6||
\smallskip

lambaadharoru trayalambanaase 
tvaM yaahi yaahi ksharamaagataaGYaa |
GYaataagamaa raksha hi yaahi yaa tvaM
senaa balaM yatra rurodha baalam.h || 7||
\smallskip

laN^kaayanaa nityagamaa dhavaashaa
saakaM tayaanunnayamaanukaaraa |
raakaanumaa yannanu yaatakaMsaa
shaavaadhamaagatya ninaaya kaalam.h || 8||
\smallskip

gaadhijaadhvaravairaa ye
te.atiitaa rakshasaa mataaH |
taamasaaksharataatiite
ye raavairadhvajaadhigaaH || 9||
\smallskip

taavadeva dayaa deve
yaage yaavadavaasanaa |
naasavaadavayaa geyaa
vede yaadavadevataa || 10||
\smallskip

sabhaasvaye bhagnamanena chaapaM 
kiinaashataanaddharushhaa shilaashaiH |
shailaashishhaaruddhanataashanaakii
paJNchaanane magnabhaye svabhaasaH || 11||
\smallskip

na veda yaamaksharabhaamasiitaaM
kaa taarakaa vishhNujite.avivaade |
devaavite jishhNuvikaarataa kaa
taaM siimabhaarakshamayaadavena || 12||
\smallskip

tiivragoranvayatraaryo
vaidehiimanaso mataH |
tamaso na mahiidevai\-
ryaatraayanvaragovratii || 13||
\smallskip

veda yaa padmasadanaM
saadhaaraavatataara maa |
maarataa tava raadhaa saa
nanda sadmapa yaadave || 14||
\smallskip

shaivato hanane.arodhii
yo deveshhu nR^ipotsavaH |
vatsapo nR^ishhu vede yo
dhiiro.anena hato.avashaiH || 15||
\smallskip

naagopago.asi kshara me pinaake.a
naayo.ajane dharmadhanena daanam.h |
nandaanane dharmadhane jayo naa
kenaapi me rakshasi gopago naH || 16||
\smallskip

tataana daama pramadaa padaaya
neme ruchaamasvanasundaraakshii |
kshiiraadasuM na svamachaaru mene
yadaapa daama pramadaa nataataH || 17||
\smallskip

taamito mattasuutraamaa
shaapaadeshha vigaanataam.h |
taaM nagaavishhade.apaashaa
maatraasuuttamato mitaa || 18||
\smallskip

naasaavadyaapatrapaaGYaavinodii
dhiiro.anutyaa sasmito.adyaavigiityaa |
tyaagii vidyaato.asmi sattyaanurodhii
diino.aviGYaa paatrapadyaavasaanaa || 19||
\smallskip

saMbhaavitaM bhikshuragaadagaaraM
yaataadhiraapa svanaghaajavaMshaH |
shavaM jaghaana svaparaadhitaayaa
raN^gaadagaarakshubhitaM vibhaasam.h || 20||
\smallskip

tayaatitaarasvanayaagataM maa
lokaapavaadadvitayaM pinaake |
kenaapi yaM tadvidavaapa kaalo
maataMgayaanasvarataatiyaataH || 21||
\smallskip

shave.avidaa chitrakuraN^gamaalaa
paJNchaavaTiinarma na rochate vaa |
vaate.acharo narmanaTiiva chaapaM
laamaagaraM kutrachidaavivesha || 22||
\smallskip

neha vaa kshipasi pakshikaMdharaa
maalinii svamatamatta duuyate |
te yaduuttamatama svaniilamaa\-
raadhakaM kshipasi pakshivaahane || 23||
\smallskip

vanaantayaanasvaNuvedanaasu
yoshhaamR^ite.araNyagataavirodhii |
dhiiro.avitaagaNyarate mR^ishhaa yo
sunaadaveNusvanayaatanaaM vaH || 24||
\smallskip

kiM nu toyarasaa pampaa
na sevaa niyatena vai |
vainateyanivaasena
paapaM saarayato nu kim.h || 25||
\smallskip

sa nataatapahaa tena
svaM shenaavihitaagasam.h |
saMgataahivinaashe svaM
netehaapa tataana saH || 26||
\smallskip

kapitaalavibhaagena
yoshhaado.anunayena  saH |
sa naye nanu doshhaayo
nage bhaavilataapikaH || 27||
\smallskip

te sabhaa prakapivarNamaalikaa 
naalpakaprasaramabhrakalpitaa |
taalpikabhramarasaprakalpanaa 
kaalimarNava pika prabhaasate || 28||
\smallskip

raavaNe.akshipatanatrapaanate
naalpakabhramaNamakramaaturam.h |
rantumaakramaNamabhrakalpanaa
tena paatranatapakshiNe varaa || 29||
\smallskip

daive yoge sevaadaanaM
shaN^kaa naaye laN^kaayaane |
neyaakaalaM yenaakaashaM
nandaavaase geyo vedaiH || 30||
\smallskip

shaN^kaavaGYaanutvanuGYaavakaashaM
yaane nadyaamugramudyaananeyaa |
yaane nadyaamugramudyaananeyaa
shaMkaavaGYaanutvanuGYaavakaasham.h || 31||
\smallskip

vaa didesha dvisiitaayaaM
yaM paathoyanasetave |
vaitasena yathopaayaM
yantaasiid.avishade divaa || 32||
\smallskip

vaayujo.anumato neme
saMgraame.aravito.ahni vaH |
vahnito virame graasaM
mene.ato.amanujo yuvaa || 33||
\smallskip

kshataaya maa yatra raghoritaayu\-
raN^kaanugaananyavayo.ayanaani |
ninaaya yo vanyanagaanukaaraM

RE: [FairfieldLife] Spelling of Obama's first name?

2008-05-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of cardemaister
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:46 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Spelling of Obama's first name?

 


Barak or Barack?

The Believe-poster here

HYPERLINK
http://www.neptunecafe.com/Obama08.htmlhttp://www.neptunecafe.com/Obama08.
html

has 'Barak'...

It’s Barack


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[FairfieldLife] BBC-TV. Gore Vidal on McCain: a nest of ninnies.

2008-05-25 Thread uns_tressor
BBCTV's Sunday breakfast show, the Andrew Marr Show,
featured this:

GORE VIDAL: I don't think anyone admires him (McCain). 
He's, you know, he's a real fool. As is Bush himself. 
And Bush's father before him. I mean it's a, it's a,
a nest of ninnies. 

The full interview. (Probably available as a video
if you know how):
http://tinyurl.com/49rqtp
Uns.





[FairfieldLife] Hillary is deranged

2008-05-25 Thread feste37
From: 

To Claim Popular Vote, Clinton Is Seeking Wins in Last 3 Primaries

By Anne E. Kornblut and Dan Balz
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, May 25, 2008; A08


Clinton also appears to have hurt her case by comparing the cause of
seating the delegations [Florida and Michigan] with the abolition of
slavery and the disputed election in Zimbabwe . . . . Knowledgeable
Democrats said those comments have played poorly with the very people
she needs most right now, superdelegates and members of the rules
committee.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary is deranged

2008-05-25 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: 
 
 To Claim Popular Vote, Clinton Is Seeking Wins in Last 3 Primaries
 
 By Anne E. Kornblut and Dan Balz
 Washington Post Staff Writers
 Sunday, May 25, 2008; A08
 
 
 Clinton also appears to have hurt her case by comparing the cause of
 seating the delegations [Florida and Michigan] with the abolition of
 slavery and the disputed election in Zimbabwe . . . . Knowledgeable
 Democrats said those comments have played poorly with the very people
 she needs most right now, superdelegates and members of the rules
 committee.

This winning the popular vote claim is bogus.  The way the clintons
get there is by counting hillary's vote in michigan but not giving
obama any votes there, which is absurd, plus they don't count the
caucus states.  Hillary's all for counting all the votes, well I spent
a lot of time participating in the iowa caucus, why does my vote not
count?  Same for all the other caucus states.  If you actually count
all the votes obama wins easily.

Plus, this is a primary election, the popular vote doesn't matter -
it's about delegates.  No-one's ever thought about counting the
popular vote in a primary election before.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and the Unmaking of the Democratic Party

2008-05-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 [...]
  In any case, when this all went down, nobody thought
  Florida and Michigan would *matter*; nobody knew the
  primary contest was going to be so close or last so
  long. Since it is and has, Florida and Michigan voters
  have been effectively disenfranchised by this ruling.
  That was not the intention originally.
 
 Well, yes it was. Everyone (including Clinton supporters)
 believed that the primary process with Super Tuesday was
 so important that they were willing to disenfranchise
 florida and michigan Dems in order to keep the press and
 voters focused on those S.T. states.

My point was that if the primary race had gone as
expected, one candidate would have achieved a
decisive victory well before this, such that Florida
and Michigan's votes would have made no difference.
In that context, it doesn't make sense to speak of
the states' voters having been disenfranchised.

As it is, with the race so close, their votes *would*
make a difference if they could be counted. That
wasn't anticipated, and it's undesirable for the
party to alienate the states' voters, no matter 
which Democratic candidate they voted for, because
they're big states that will be important in the
general election.

That's why the DNC is trying to figure out a way
to mitigate the original punishment, even though it
would benefit Hillary, which the DNC would rather
avoid if it could.

 Any state or states that bucked the Super Tuesday trend had
 to be punished. Someone has quoted one of the major Clinton
 campaign workers who was DNC chair a few years back warning
 people that they WOULD be punished if they stepped out of
 line on this issue.
 
 The timing of the primaries is a really big marketing issue
 for the parties, especially for the Democrats.

All true, and all entirely irrelevant to the point
I was making. The timing of the primaries is
designed to obtain a conclusive result as quickly
as possible after as few primaries as possible.

But in this situation, the way the DNC tried to
implement that design came back to bite them in the
butt because the race turned out to be so close and
so prolonged.

In a way, it's as if the Florida and Michigan
primaries are now the *last* on the schedule, given
that the decision as to what to do about the states'
delegates won't be made until after all the other
primaries are over. The original punishment is out
the window for the reasons I stated.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stupid is as Stupid Does

2008-05-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 25, 2008, at 4:32 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


I think the theory here is that making 48
hysterical, over-the-edge posts in one day and
shouting out the word DERANGED over and
over in them is, to Judy, a convincing way to
prove that she ISN'T deranged.


And maybe she also knows that Hillary is finished, not just with
the campaign but possibly with politics in general.  I'll be really
interested to see if the good people of NY actually elect
her again.  I'm betting on no.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Deranged - Hillary's 5/23/08 comments

2008-05-25 Thread mainstream20016
Of course she hasn't been sitting on the sidelines waiting for this she has 
gone above 
and beyond in her own efforts to win the nomination.but this statement 
reveals so 
much - and it isn't acceptable.   She has talked herself out of any chance as 
VP - so much 
for the theory that she shouldn't gracefully exit the campaign.  If she had 
gracefully exited 
a month ago, she might have been offered the VP slot.

I regularly listen to Rush.  I trust him to always advocate for Republicans.  
His 'Operation 
Chaos'  is designed to improve Republican chances in November.  His support and 
encouragement to Hillary is running at full speed, with even more enthusiasm 
now than 
when Rush and many Republicans had a real effect on the Democratic primary 
outcomes 
when they  patronizingly voted for Hillary to delay Obama's march to the 
nomination.In 
my view, Rush and the GOP want Hillary as McCain's opponent, to make McCain's 
path to 
the White House easier. 

Hillary had incredible 'name recognition' leading into 2008. When the public 
got to know 
her, they decided on Obama, instead.  Since the Iowa results, Hillary has been 
trying to 
plug the leaks in the levee that preserved her 'name recognition' advantage.  
Everything 
since then as about preserving that name recognition advantage.  It is she that 
couldn't 
close the deal. She had  over-confidence of the inevitability of her 
Presidency.  As defeat 
looms, she now greatly over-plays her hand and is squandering ever last bit of 
her 
reserves of name recognition.   

What we are seeing is the extended downward decline of Hillary, Bill, the 
Bushes, and the 
GOP.  Hillary is not displaying courage, determination, and character with her 
extended 
campaign.  Rather, we are seeing the extremes of arrogance, presumed 
entitlement, and 
unbridled ambition.  Thank you, Hillary, for offering to reveal for us that 
which many were 
reluctant to ponder about you.  You've made it much easier for the country to 
avoid the 
mistake of having you serve as either POTUS, or V-Potus.

Barack Obama will be the next President.  It is not even June, and the 
opposition in both 
parties have resorted to scenarios that require his assassination to defeat 
him. 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
 
  May 23rd, 2008
Hillary Clinton Evokes Bobby Kennedy's Assassination to Claim That  
 She Should Stay In The Race
 
 What a horrible comment. Is she truly sitting on the sideline preparing 
 for  the off chance that the presumptive nominee where to be 
 assassinated? Amazingly  callous and insensitive. She has leaped off 
 the side of what was already a  slippery slope…
 
 Deranged.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary is deranged

2008-05-25 Thread authfriend
This is 50 for me this week. See you all next Saturday.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 This winning the popular vote claim is bogus.  The way the
 clintons get there is by counting hillary's vote in michigan
 but not giving obama any votes there, which is absurd, plus
 they don't count the caucus states.

Please see my post Clinton Has the Numbers from the
Philly Inquirer about the various different ways
Clinton could get there with the popular vote.

  Hillary's all for counting all the votes, well I spent
 a lot of time participating in the iowa caucus, why does my
 vote not count?  Same for all the other caucus states.  If
 you actually count all the votes obama wins easily.

Please see Clinton Has the Numbers, particularly
categories 2 and 6, which include estimated caucus
votes.

 Plus, this is a primary election, the popular vote doesn't
 matter - it's about delegates.  No-one's ever thought about
 counting the popular vote in a primary election before.

I'm not sure there's ever been a primary election
where the popular vote and the delegate count were
in conflict, certainly not since the current delegate
system was adopted. No one's thought about it before
because there was no reason to think about it. This
time, there is.

See my post #177815, which quotes from a column by
ABC's Cokie Roberts and her husband, Steve, about
how the current system makes it more likely, in a
close race, that the delegate count and the popular
vote will be at odds because of the weird way
delegates are apportioned.

Regardless of what's supposed to count, it's very
bad P.R. for the party and the winning candidate not
to have won the popular vote. Normally that doesn't
happen; this time, it may very well happen, and it
could be a big negative in the general election.




[FairfieldLife] The role of Biophotons in Biological Communication

2008-05-25 Thread Vaj
Have we discovered the nadis, the bioenergetical rivers of  
integrated consciousness?

---

Article: Biophotons, microtubules and CNS, is our brain a Holographic
computer?

Summary: Several experiments show that there is a cell to cell
communication by light in different cell types. This article describes
theoretical mechanisms and subcellular structures that could be
involved in this phenomenon. Special consideration is given to the
nervous system, since it would have excellent conditions for such
mechanisms. Neurons are large colourless cells with wide
arborisations, have an active metabolism generating photons, contain
little pigment, and have a prominent cytoskeleton consisting of hollow
microtubules. As brain and spinal cord are protected from
environmental light by bone and connective tissue, the signal to noise
ratio should be high for photons as signal.
Fluorescent and absorbing substances should interfere with such a
communication system. Of all biogenic amines nature has chosen the
ones with the strongest fluorescence as neurotransmitters for mood
reactions: serotonin, dopamine and norepinephrine. If these mechanisms
are of relevance our brain would have to be looked upon as a
holographic computer.

Reference:

http://www.medizin-medien.info/mm/BiophotonsGrass.pdf


[FairfieldLife] Twin brother rulez ok!

2008-05-25 Thread cardemaister

www.formula1.com

When Ferrari wrapped up the front row of the grid for the Monaco Grand
Prix, Lewis Hamilton's only real hope of victory seemed to lie in the
hands of the weather gods. It duly rained before the start, but after
six laps the McLaren driver walloped the wall hard on the exit to the
Swimming Pool, while trailing poleman Felipe Massa's F2008.




[FairfieldLife] Why I Continue To Run - Clinton Op-Ed

2008-05-25 Thread Marek Reavis
New York Daily News, May 25, 2008

This past Friday, during a meeting with a newspaper editorial board, 
I was asked about whether I was going to continue in the 
presidential race. 

I made clear that I was - and that I thought the urgency to end the 
2008 primary process was unprecedented. I pointed out, as I have 
before, that both my husband's primary campaign, and Sen. Robert 
Kennedy's, had continued into June. 

Almost immediately, some took my comments entirely out of context 
and interpreted them to mean something completely different - and 
completely unthinkable. 

I want to set the record straight: I was making the simple point 
that given our history, the length of this year's primary contest is 
nothing unusual. Both the executive editor of the newspaper where I 
made the remarks, and Sen. Kennedy's son, Bobby Kennedy Jr., put out 
statements confirming that this was the clear meaning of my remarks. 
Bobby stated, I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, 
but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense. 

I realize that any reference to that traumatic moment for our nation 
can be deeply painful - particularly for members of the Kennedy 
family, who have been in my heart and prayers over this past week. 
And I expressed regret right away for any pain I caused. 

But I was deeply dismayed and disturbed that my comment would be 
construed in a way that flies in the face of everything I stand for -
 and everything I am fighting for in this election. 

And today, I would like to more fully answer the question I was 
asked: Why do I continue to run, even in the face of calls from 
pundits and politicians for me to leave this race? 

I am running because I still believe I can win on the merits. 
Because, with our economy in crisis, our nation at war, the stakes 
have never been higher - and the need for real leadership has never 
been greater - and I believe I can provide that leadership. 

I am not unaware of the challenges or the odds of my securing the 
nomination - but this race remains extraordinarily close, and 
hundreds of thousands of people in upcoming primaries are still 
waiting to vote. As I have said so many times over the course of 
this primary, if Sen. Obama wins the nomination, I will support him 
and work my heart out for him against John McCain. But that has not 
happened yet. 

I am running because I believe staying in this race will help unite 
the Democratic Party. I believe that if Sen. Obama and I both make 
our case - and all Democrats have the chance to make their voices 
heard - in the end, everyone will be more likely to rally around the 
nominee. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying students in Panama to create invincibility for the nation

2008-05-25 Thread ruthsimplicity
It seems to me that invincible is used by the TMO most often with
respect to countries and institutions.  So if the Panama is invincible
it is incapable of being conquered or subdued.  Get 160 meditators and
you are there.  

http://www.invincibledefence.org/prev_wing/defence_research.html

I take the word at face value.

Sometimes I tire of strained explanations of violence in religious
texts. The BG is violent.  The bible is violent. The Koran is violent.
 I am inclined to think our species tends towards violence against
itself and religions would be much more spiritual if the writings were
less violent.

Me, I am strong, I am invincible, I am woman!








[FairfieldLife] Re: Why I Continue To Run - Clinton Op-Ed

2008-05-25 Thread TurquoiseB
Personally, I think that the most appropriate 
response to this attempt to shift the blame for
her fuckup to someone else -- anyone else -- 
would be to take what she says here literally
and call her bluff.

That is, all of the remaining uncommitted 
superdelegates should declare their support for 
Obama, first thing tomorrow morning.

That would shut her up. She wouldn't be able to
say a damned thing, having claimed that her goal
was to unite the Democratic party. What, after
all, would unite it faster? 

And the best part would be that she would then
*have* to go out and campaign big-time for Obama, 
the way she has just claimed she would. Watching 
the look on her face as she did this would be 
like watching her having to chow down a big plate 
full of shit, smiling at the cameras as she chews. 

It's the perfect solution. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 New York Daily News, May 25, 2008
 
 This past Friday, during a meeting with a newspaper editorial board, 
 I was asked about whether I was going to continue in the 
 presidential race. 
 
 I made clear that I was - and that I thought the urgency to end the 
 2008 primary process was unprecedented. I pointed out, as I have 
 before, that both my husband's primary campaign, and Sen. Robert 
 Kennedy's, had continued into June. 
 
 Almost immediately, some took my comments entirely out of context 
 and interpreted them to mean something completely different - and 
 completely unthinkable. 
 
 I want to set the record straight: I was making the simple point 
 that given our history, the length of this year's primary contest is 
 nothing unusual. Both the executive editor of the newspaper where I 
 made the remarks, and Sen. Kennedy's son, Bobby Kennedy Jr., put out 
 statements confirming that this was the clear meaning of my remarks. 
 Bobby stated, I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, 
 but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense. 
 
 I realize that any reference to that traumatic moment for our nation 
 can be deeply painful - particularly for members of the Kennedy 
 family, who have been in my heart and prayers over this past week. 
 And I expressed regret right away for any pain I caused. 
 
 But I was deeply dismayed and disturbed that my comment would be 
 construed in a way that flies in the face of everything I stand 
 for - and everything I am fighting for in this election. 
 
 And today, I would like to more fully answer the question I was 
 asked: Why do I continue to run, even in the face of calls from 
 pundits and politicians for me to leave this race? 
 
 I am running because I still believe I can win on the merits. 
 Because, with our economy in crisis, our nation at war, the stakes 
 have never been higher - and the need for real leadership has never 
 been greater - and I believe I can provide that leadership. 
 
 I am not unaware of the challenges or the odds of my securing the 
 nomination - but this race remains extraordinarily close, and 
 hundreds of thousands of people in upcoming primaries are still 
 waiting to vote. As I have said so many times over the course of 
 this primary, if Sen. Obama wins the nomination, I will support him 
 and work my heart out for him against John McCain. But that has not 
 happened yet. 
 
 I am running because I believe staying in this race will help unite 
 the Democratic Party. I believe that if Sen. Obama and I both make 
 our case - and all Democrats have the chance to make their voices 
 heard - in the end, everyone will be more likely to rally around the 
 nominee.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 If you live in New York or Los Angeles.  Unfortunately John 
 
 Cusack's 
   
 War, Inc. is opening this weekend in only two theaters.  The 
 
 Angelica 
   
 in New York and the Landmark in Los Angeles.  It is a hilarious 
 
 satire 
   
 on corporatism and war with Cusack and Dan Ackroyd playing a Dick 
 
 Cheney 
   
 like character.  Cusack was interview on Thom Hartmann's show this 
 morning in the second hour and said he has fought an uphill battle 
 
 to 
   
 get it in theaters.  Seems out liberal Hollywood has fallen in 
 
 line 
   
 with the fascists even telling him the war is still going on and 
 
 the 
   
 film inappropriate.
 




 Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that anti-Iraq war films 
 simply don't do very well at the box office since the beginning of 
 the Gulf War.

 Can you name one anti-war film that's done well?  Redacted?

 And I don't think the reason is that the movie-going public is PRO 
 Iraq War; it's more a factor of fatigue.
   
Same thing happened during WWII.  Flags of Our Fathers covers the 
subject as did Ken Burns in his documentary.  People are tired of 
hearing about the war and just wish Bush, his fascist regime and war 
would go away (many Germans felt the same about Hitler and his regime 
too).  The movie and record industry turned protest into a new genre 
during the Vietnam war but then most of them weren't owned by the 
military industrial complex back then.

Idiocracy was shelved by Fox and finally released on DVD a good two years 
after it was finished.  It has become a cult hit.  It is not about war but the 
dumbing down of society.

There are a number of films that have done well and have anti-war themes in 
them.  I haven't seen Iron Man but what I've read the theme was anti-war.  
Lord of War is another film that did okay at the box office and has been 
popular on DVD.

Cusack in his interview the other morning said it was clearly the executives 
who didn't want this film in theaters.  It would probably do well at the box 
office and will do well on DVD.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:

 The phenomenon Shemp is describing is not fatigue.
 It is more accurately called plausible deniability.
 It's the same whine we heard from on-the-street 
 Germans after WWII. We didn't know what was happen-
 ing to the Jews...it's not OUR fault. 
   
As I mentioned to Shemp according to the interviews on the extras of 
Sophie Schill the Germans got tired of Hitler and his war too , not 
just the Americans.   They wanted  Hitler and his regime to go away just 
like we'd like Bush to go away to Leavenworth preferably.   But stupid 
Pelosi said it was off the table.  We'd like her off the table too.
 I think what Shemp is trying to say is that he does
 not CARE whether people in Iraq are dying, or whether
 Americans are dying. All he wants is his entertainment,
 so he can listen to boppy, uptempo music in peace and
 count his money.

 THIS is why Europeans have lost hope in America.

 It's not because of Bush; it's because of the American
 PEOPLE. They no longer CARE what their government does
 in their name, as long as the entertainment never
 stops.
They seem to care now that they see the prices at the gas pump and 
realize the boob in the White House can't do anything about it and his 
war has caused it.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Why I Continue To Run - Clinton Op-Ed

2008-05-25 Thread ruthsimplicity
I just read most of the deranged thread. 

I avoid the political discussions.  These days I think most about what
candidate is the one my group can best work with on health care
issues. Clinton is the most prepared and most focused on the issues. 
Obama is aware of the issues and likely will have some focus on health
care.  McCain is weakest, but he recently came around on some of the
HC issues I care about.  I think we can work with any of them, but we
still truly hope for a democrat because HC is a democrat issue. I can
easily and happily live with Clinton or Obama.  

Now that disclosure is over, I must say that this campaign is filled
with blown out of proportion issues, much like the last campaign. 
Give me an effing break--does anyone really think that Hill meant to
create the impression that she is staying in the race because Obama
might get whacked?  Right, like that wouldn't backfire.  

Everyone seems to want to find something that will support their
feelings about what a candidate is really like.  As if each of the
leading democrats have some secret agenda.  

The press is always there, waiting for something to misinterpret. 

BTW, my impression from reading the deranged thread is that teasing
is going on by one or two of you to get a rise out of a particular
poster.  Come on now, admit it. 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying students in Panama to create invincibility for the nation

2008-05-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems to me that invincible is used by the TMO most often with
 respect to countries and institutions.  So if the Panama is invincible
 it is incapable of being conquered or subdued.  Get 160 meditators and
 you are there.  
 
 http://www.invincibledefence.org/prev_wing/defence_research.html
 
 I take the word at face value.
 
 Sometimes I tire of strained explanations of violence in religious
 texts. The BG is violent.  The bible is violent. The Koran is violent.
  I am inclined to think our species tends towards violence against
 itself and religions would be much more spiritual if the writings were
 less violent.

Perhaps Human Bean is violent because the ETI that created
it (those elohim) designed it that way, to speed up its evolution.


 
 Me, I am strong, I am invincible, I am woman!





[FairfieldLife] Some Fees Reducing

2008-05-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
FW:
Subject: Another TM course fee reduction for a special circumstance
Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 10:11 PM


In light of the recent course fee reductions, the
Rajas have offered that anyone who paid $2500 to learn
the TM technique can have the spouse learn for $1000
and children under 18 for $500 if they are instructed
by July 31 of this year.

Maharishi Sthapatya-Ved has also been reduced from 20% to 5% of the 
cost of
consturction.

Rocks are Melting?



[FairfieldLife] You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
The policy has just been reinstated that Governors,
recertified or not, can instruct parents, children
and siblings in the TM technique for free.

Jai Guru Dev,


Don't tell anyone, but I charged my mother. Was good karma for her.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Fees Reducing

2008-05-25 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FW:
 Subject: Another TM course fee reduction for a special circumstance
 Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 10:11 PM


 In light of the recent course fee reductions, the
 Rajas have offered that anyone who paid $2500 to learn
 the TM technique can have the spouse learn for $1000
 and children under 18 for $500 if they are instructed
 by July 31 of this year.

 Maharishi Sthapatya-Ved has also been reduced from 20% to 5% of the
 cost of
 consturction.

 Rocks are Melting?


Doug,

Do you know what those other 'recent course fee reductions' are?
I've looked at tm.org but it still lists $2500 for persons 18 and over.

thanks,

JohnY





[FairfieldLife] Re: You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The policy has just been reinstated that Governors,
 recertified or not, can instruct parents, children
 and siblings in the TM technique for free.
 
 Jai Guru Dev,


So who is proclaiming these things?

Whose name is on the memos or announcements
or whatever they are?

The bullshit rearranging the deck chairs on
the Titanic doesn't interest me at all. But
learning who thinks that he (it's a given that 
it's a man, or a them composed of men) is the 
captain (or co-captains) interests me. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Jim, Curtis, MMY, SBS -- Down by the River ....

2008-05-25 Thread new . morning
Jim,

Your two responses to two honest and fairly thorough responses to your
posts are the most revealing things you could have ever written about
your state and its value (to me).

In neither of your responses, do you delve into or discuss anything of
substance from the posts. Its all about my cleverness. While I am
not trying to be clever in my post, you use the term perhaps as a
derogatory. 

Per Chambers: clever adj (cleverer, cleverest) 1 good or quick at
learning and understanding. 2 skilful, dexterous, nimble or adroit. 3
well thought out; ingenious. 

Contrary to you,  I don't view cleverness as a liability. I only wish
I was more clever. Don't we all.
 
I keep an unconditioned starting point, the fresh perspective of a new
morning so to speak, upon listening to you -- and i have tried to give
you the benefit of the doubt on your experiences. I have tried to
chirp in and clarify when I feel that others are missing your points. 

But I am increasingly surprised by the shallowness of your posts at
times. For example, at your deepest level of perfect intellect and
clear thought, the impulse was not identifying insightful extensions,
clarifications or alternatives to my points, rather it was solely to
express your opinion, perhaps your excuse, that the issue / aka
problem was all about me and my deficiencies. The same pattern in some
other of your posts.

I am always happy to celebrate my deficiencies as well as join in with
your celebration of them. However, if that is your sole response to a
number of thoughtful points, mine or others, something grand is
missing. Whatever value you feel all of your hard work and effort has
brought you (and that should be a tipoff) -- I hope you enjoy it
immensely. However, based on your recent posts you are a true
reflection of the vacuum state. As far as your cherised state
bringing anything to the table in terms of insight, knowledge, depth,
emotional radiance or even humor -- not so much. 

Inverse to Billy Crystal's mother's response to Sally's dinner choice
in When Harry Met Sally, I'll have whatever he is not having.  

Your role though is fantastic. Your service immense. You, being a
living breathing example of the end-state, the culmination of
achievement of the TM -- and perhaps all yogic paths. Its
extraordinarly useful through your living example, to demonstrate to
the world the benefit of any effort or time spent on that path.

Clearly you are not the only one engaged in this high service. But you 
among them are a radiant star -- due to exhibiting the largest gap
between  achievements of your path and the any visible benefits.
I am quite sincere in lauding your service to many in clarifying many
current and former-seekers' values and priorities.
  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ 
   wrote:
   

Oh good. Another SportsFest. One-upmanship at its best. (We 
 Are the
Champions blare in the background -- only the word I seems to 
 have
replace We)
   snip
  
   Your snarkiness and criticism of me, 
   
  For a guy that i) tries to exude being cosmic or, at least is 
 fumbling
  around trying to express a new experience of unboundedness, you 
 are  
   fascinatingly self-centered and stern. Not necessarly bad 
 qualities 
  -- all qualities can be good in the right context.
  
  What I mean by that -- it is not a retort, but as in most of my 
 posts
  it is an exploration -- is that I am snarky and critical of
  everything. I might choose different adjectives, but I get the 
 drift
  of the current you are riding with those words. 
  
  But, I am no more snarky or critical of you and your posts than
  anything else. Yet you appear (ha, apparently) to see it as a 
 personal
  attack -- not a broad based universal attack on things that you at
  times embody and radiate as do many things. Which is not a bad 
 thing,
  per se. I radiate a certain nature as do you. I think my nature is
  laughable at times -- and I both supportingly laugh at IT, and also
  mock IT -- my farcadial nature. 
  
  Instead of letting go or better being in a state of having let 
 go
  (long ago) you seem (ha apparently) to not have that in your 
 nature
  and can't seem to say, haha, I see your point, it may be off 
 target,
   but I see what you are lampooning in my nature and it is funny. 
  
  Rather, you appear (ha apparently) to hold Jim's nature as 
 sacrosinct
  -- and beyond either ridicule or refinement. You don't seem to be 
 able
  to laugh at yourself. Which may be a superfical marker, but in my
  book, without being able to see the frivolity, limitations and
  paradoxes of ones facadial nature, there are many miles before you
  sleep.  
  
  Nor do you seem to be able to readily generalize such 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Fees Reducing

2008-05-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FW:
 Subject: Another TM course fee reduction for a special circumstance
 Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 10:11 PM
 
 
 In light of the recent course fee reductions, the
 Rajas have offered that anyone who paid $2500 to learn
 the TM technique can have the spouse learn for $1000
 and children under 18 for $500 if they are instructed
 by July 31 of this year.
 
 Maharishi Sthapatya-Ved has also been reduced from 20% to 5% of the 
 cost of
 consturction.
 
 Rocks are Melting?

However,if you look in the footnote, they are charging anyone who
learned for less than the new prices, the difference between the two.
Look for your bill in the mail.





[FairfieldLife] Re: You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  The policy has just been reinstated that Governors,
  recertified or not, can instruct parents, children
  and siblings in the TM technique for free.

Through the course of this intro lecture, I feel so close to each and
everyone of you. You are my brothers and sisters in this age of rising
bliss and fulfillment. Thus, I invite you, my famiy of kindred 
spirits, to all learn this vibrant tehnology of life, TM, for free.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Why I Continue To Run - Clinton Op-Ed

2008-05-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just read most of the deranged thread. 
 
 I avoid the political discussions.  These days I think most about what
 candidate is the one my group can best work with on health care
 issues. Clinton is the most prepared and most focused on the issues. 
 Obama is aware of the issues and likely will have some focus on health
 care.  McCain is weakest, but he recently came around on some of the
 HC issues I care about.  I think we can work with any of them, but we
 still truly hope for a democrat because HC is a democrat issue. I can
 easily and happily live with Clinton or Obama.  
 
 Now that disclosure is over, I must say that this campaign is filled
 with blown out of proportion issues, much like the last campaign. 
 Give me an effing break--does anyone really think that Hill meant to
 create the impression that she is staying in the race because Obama
 might get whacked?  Right, like that wouldn't backfire.  

I heard and saw the interview. She had the same tone as her oft used
claim, I don't know why they do it,I JUST find it interesting. To me
it reeked of the oft used, unstated 'connect the dots' -- but I have
plausible deniability if you do, wink wink. A slimy tactic used by
many politicians -- but which she has tried to make into an art form
(but she is a low grade B artist-- unlike Bill -- and I am not sure
which skill level is more dangerous).

But I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Lets suppose she was not
pandering to her claimed hardworking white bigoted redneck
constituency. Lets assume she was innocent as a lamb. Then clearly I
to not want such a naive, insensitive loose cannon answering the phone
at 3am.

and btw, didn't it backfire? So add not very street to the list
above -- and I worry that she is even in the Senate.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote:

 You folks are always going on about how immoral capitalism is and how 
 capitalists are only worried about the bottom-line (well, you're half 
 right).

 If that's the case, then we should expect the capitalists to do 
 anything they can to make a buck...and if that means putting on an 
 anti-war film, then so be it.

 Please realize that only a very small percentage of films made 
 actually make money or get distribution in the first place.  The mere 
 fact that you are talking about it means that the film is a success 
 and head and shoulders above what 99% of films do.
Very funny, Shemp.  Lots of films make money though not at the box 
office.  If the entertainment industry wasn't so successful then it 
would be easier for truly talented people to get into.  Otherwise it's 
who you know than what you know.

And it is easier to be an independent though the big boys hate that.  
However the entertainment industry has always been a crap shoot.  It's 
just that they want to systematize it these days for assured profits and 
thats why we get such crap films anymore.  Just put something there to 
get the sheeple to part with their hard earned money at the box office.  
Now they're going into 3D movies again... for the same reason they 
did that in the 1950s because people are staying home watching TV or 
these days their home theaters.

As I mentioned before unlike years past we now have the military 
industrial complex who owns studios (Universal comes to mind owned by 
the Windsor family's General Electric -- Carl Lemly is probably rolling 
over in his grave).   Some films are now pure propaganda like 
Untraceable which did poorly at the box office and deserved too.  
There was a scene in the film where an FBI agent at the home of a 
suspect sees all his ripped DVDs and asked do you like movies and the 
suspect says who doesn't and the agent says I don't.  Who cares what 
a brain dead FBI droid thinks about entertainment anyway.  The movie was 
unashamedly propaganda and if you don't believe me watch the extras on 
the DVD where they admit it.

In Hollywood if you want to make a war movie you can get support from 
the Pentagon to use their hardware that is as long as they like the 
message in the movie.  Cusack made an end run around them by shooting in 
Bulgaria who furnished the hardware.  The producers of Alien Versus 
Predator Requiem weren't able to get hardware from the Pentagon because 
it didn't like the message in the movie.  They would up using hardware 
(that kept breaking down) from Australia.  What was the message the 
Pentagon didn't like: the movie explores why in the original Alien 
movie there is no mention of government and everything is corporate.  
IOW, very much against the current trend in the world nowadays of 
everything becoming privatized and corporate.

America is dead.  It died on January 20th, 2001.  We now have Bush, Inc 
with Dubya as President and Cheney as CEO.  Too hell with capitalism.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and the Unmaking of the Democratic Party

2008-05-25 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  [...]
   In any case, when this all went down, nobody thought
   Florida and Michigan would *matter*; nobody knew the
   primary contest was going to be so close or last so
   long. Since it is and has, Florida and Michigan voters
   have been effectively disenfranchised by this ruling.
   That was not the intention originally.
  
  Well, yes it was. Everyone (including Clinton supporters)
  believed that the primary process with Super Tuesday was
  so important that they were willing to disenfranchise
  florida and michigan Dems in order to keep the press and
  voters focused on those S.T. states.
 
 My point was that if the primary race had gone as
 expected, one candidate would have achieved a
 decisive victory well before this, such that Florida
 and Michigan's votes would have made no difference.
 In that context, it doesn't make sense to speak of
 the states' voters having been disenfranchised.
 
 As it is, with the race so close, their votes *would*
 make a difference if they could be counted. That
 wasn't anticipated, and it's undesirable for the
 party to alienate the states' voters, no matter 
 which Democratic candidate they voted for, because
 they're big states that will be important in the
 general election.
 
 That's why the DNC is trying to figure out a way
 to mitigate the original punishment, even though it
 would benefit Hillary, which the DNC would rather
 avoid if it could.
 
  Any state or states that bucked the Super Tuesday trend had
  to be punished. Someone has quoted one of the major Clinton
  campaign workers who was DNC chair a few years back warning
  people that they WOULD be punished if they stepped out of
  line on this issue.
  
  The timing of the primaries is a really big marketing issue
  for the parties, especially for the Democrats.
 
 All true, and all entirely irrelevant to the point
 I was making. The timing of the primaries is
 designed to obtain a conclusive result as quickly
 as possible after as few primaries as possible.
 
 But in this situation, the way the DNC tried to
 implement that design came back to bite them in the
 butt because the race turned out to be so close and
 so prolonged.
 
 In a way, it's as if the Florida and Michigan
 primaries are now the *last* on the schedule, given
 that the decision as to what to do about the states'
 delegates won't be made until after all the other
 primaries are over. The original punishment is out
 the window for the reasons I stated.

But Florida and Michigan still won't change the outcome.  There's no
reasonable option of resolving the 2 states that will come close to
giving clinton more total delegates, not close.  The DNC has more
clinton supporters on it than obama's and they will give her an edge
in the delegates, but they're not going to completely shut out obama
from getting any michigan delegates the way the hillary camp is doing
with the bogus popular vote argument - obama will get some michigan
delegates and they'll divide florida per popular vote, but that's
still way short.

The only reason clintons are pushing florida and michigan is to keep
things going in the hope obama will implode somehow.  But the party
won't put up with this bs after june 3.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Why I Continue To Run - Clinton Op-Ed

2008-05-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
 ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW, my impression from reading the deranged thread is that teasing
 is going on by one or two of you to get a rise out of a particular
 poster.  Come on now, admit it.


Oh yea.  The two events some are really keyed into.  One, when Judy 
posts out.  And two, even more anxiously, when she returns.  They Live 
For This!




[FairfieldLife] Cosmic Idol

2008-05-25 Thread new . morning
Its rumored that Fox is near to finalizing a deal for a new show,
spin-off of American Idol, called Cosmic Idol. 

The contestants will give 3-4 minute raps on their enlightenment,
awakening, liberated or cosmic states -- and all of the inner and
outer benefits.  Contestants will judged by how convincingly cosmic
they sound, and stories on how fast and effortless all of their
desires were fulfilled. (Clearly the winner deserves to be the winner
since they are the only one to have their deep desire completely
fulfilled to be claimed 'most cosmic' )

Fox is still looking for the Randy judge -- I don't know dawg. Your
shakti just didn't do it to me. It was OK. Its was a bit pitchy. It
was sort like you were telepathing it in. But towards the end you
really got IT down, dawg! 

Nab is a shoo in for the Paula judge, I just want to say, that was
totally cosmic. You give me chills. I stwand up and swallute you. You
are a cowsmic star. And you look stunning in that Aura 

Simon's role as judge: they are not sure, sort of a curtis / turq wit
guy with the an Off / R Williams demeanor: You know, I have to be
honest here. That was amonsgt the worst neo-advaitin imitations I have
ever heard. Like what would be heard a B level karaoke club, on a C
level cruise ship. And you had no charisma, no shaktipat blast, no
connection between your words and who you are. The cosmos expects and
deserves more for their next Cosmic Idol.

And for Ryan ... 



[FairfieldLife] Obama-Hillary Ticket

2008-05-25 Thread John
To All:

The contest between Obama and Hillary may appear contentious at the 
present time.  But there is another angle to this pair.  If they joined 
forces in the end, they could consolidate all of the Democratic votes.  
It doesn't matter who runs for president.  The selection process during 
the Democratic convention will eventually pick a winner one way or the 
other.

It appears to me that these two candidates have grabbed the nation's 
attention for many months now.  These two should join up as the 
Democratic presidential ticket.  They have a good chance of beating 
McCain.  In the past, JFK teamed up with Johnson to win the 
presidential election even though the two did not agree with many 
political issues at the time.

If they don't, it appears McCain would have the winning hand in the 
November election.

JR





[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Fees Reducing

2008-05-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maharishi Sthapatya-Ved has also been reduced from 20% to 5% of the 
 cost of
 consturction.
 
 Rocks are Melting?

More likely - the tax collectors knocking.




[FairfieldLife] Good Cartoon About the MSM

2008-05-25 Thread Bhairitu
This pretty well sums up the mainstream media:
http://candorville.com/2008/05/25/scaryblack/




[FairfieldLife] Re: Why I Continue To Run - Clinton Op-Ed

2008-05-25 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I just read most of the deranged thread. 
  
  I avoid the political discussions.  These days I think most about what
  candidate is the one my group can best work with on health care
  issues. Clinton is the most prepared and most focused on the issues. 
  Obama is aware of the issues and likely will have some focus on health
  care.  McCain is weakest, but he recently came around on some of the
  HC issues I care about.  I think we can work with any of them, but we
  still truly hope for a democrat because HC is a democrat issue. I can
  easily and happily live with Clinton or Obama.  
  
  Now that disclosure is over, I must say that this campaign is filled
  with blown out of proportion issues, much like the last campaign. 
  Give me an effing break--does anyone really think that Hill meant to
  create the impression that she is staying in the race because Obama
  might get whacked?  Right, like that wouldn't backfire.  
 
 I heard and saw the interview. She had the same tone as her oft used
 claim, I don't know why they do it,I JUST find it interesting. To me
 it reeked of the oft used, unstated 'connect the dots' -- but I have
 plausible deniability if you do, wink wink. A slimy tactic used by
 many politicians -- but which she has tried to make into an art form
 (but she is a low grade B artist-- unlike Bill -- and I am not sure
 which skill level is more dangerous).
 
 But I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Lets suppose she was not
 pandering to her claimed hardworking white bigoted redneck
 constituency. Lets assume she was innocent as a lamb. Then clearly I
 to not want such a naive, insensitive loose cannon answering the phone
 at 3am.
 
 and btw, didn't it backfire? So add not very street to the list
 above -- and I worry that she is even in the Senate.


This is exactly what I mean.  You put a lot of significance in what
she said so that no matter how you look at it, she f'd up.  I just
didn't view it the same way, with the same isignificance/i. Keep
in mind, I can take either Clinton or Obama, it doesn't matter much to
me.  







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread Bhairitu
do.rflex wrote:
 I just watched the film. I got a 'screener' version and yes it was
 squeezed.

 The film is exactly what I read it was but it was much, much better
 and much, much more than I expected. It successfully portrays and rips
 the shit out of the Bush regime's policies, its outsourced war and its
 profiteering contractors in a superbly delightful and at the same
 time, gruesome way. I can see how warmongering 'patriotic' BushCo
 right wingers might hate it unless they're just too stooopid to 'get it'. 

 It's a brilliant film. I highly recommend it!


 [snip]
This isn't the first movie with Cusack that didn't get much booking.  
Here's an article about Grace Is Gone which also didn't get much 
distribution but is available in the US on DVD this week:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/05/25/PK75107L3R.DTL




[FairfieldLife] 'Clinton's Like Putin's..?.'

2008-05-25 Thread Robert
‘Clinton’s Like Putin’s...’
When you think about it, the Clinton’s are a lot like the Putin’s.
They do anything to maintain power, threatening political enemies subtlety and 
not so subtlety.
Coveting power like some ancient Egyptian Pharaoh;
Like an entitled oldnbsp; Queen of France?
Where all kinds ofnbsp; arrogance runs amuck enticing-
Elitist of the status Quo, the one’s so entitled to power, afraid of real 
change...
Sexy and rugged, cowboys and cowgirls in their own right.
Clinton’s visions of America = Putin’s visions for Russia?
Power and Greed and a certain kind of Bushian deafness.
R.G.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 shempmcgurk wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

  If you live in New York or Los Angeles.  Unfortunately John 
  
  Cusack's 

  War, Inc. is opening this weekend in only two theaters.  The 
  
  Angelica 

  in New York and the Landmark in Los Angeles.  It is a hilarious 
  
  satire 

  on corporatism and war with Cusack and Dan Ackroyd playing a 
Dick 
  
  Cheney 

  like character.  Cusack was interview on Thom Hartmann's show 
this 
  morning in the second hour and said he has fought an uphill 
battle 
  
  to 

  get it in theaters.  Seems out liberal Hollywood has fallen in 
  
  line 

  with the fascists even telling him the war is still going on and 
  
  the 

  film inappropriate.
  
 
 
 
 
  Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that anti-Iraq war films 
  simply don't do very well at the box office since the beginning 
of 
  the Gulf War.
 
  Can you name one anti-war film that's done well?  Redacted?
 
  And I don't think the reason is that the movie-going public is 
PRO 
  Iraq War; it's more a factor of fatigue.

 Same thing happened during WWII.  Flags of Our Fathers covers the 
 subject as did Ken Burns in his documentary.  People are tired of 
 hearing about the war and just wish Bush, his fascist regime and 
war 
 would go away (many Germans felt the same about Hitler and his 
regime 
 too).  The movie and record industry turned protest into a new 
genre 
 during the Vietnam war but then most of them weren't owned by the 
 military industrial complex back then.
 
 Idiocracy was shelved by Fox and finally released on DVD a good 
two years after it was finished.  It has become a cult hit.  It is 
not about war but the dumbing down of society.




The first 10 minutes of Idiocracy -- in which they explain the 
genetical evolution of how idiocy came to characterize future 
American society -- is brilliant.  And it is brilliant because the 
theme of the movie may actually have hit upon something that will 
actually happen!

I simply didn't enjoy the rest of the movie, however.  Too contrived, 
too overacted, which is a trap that is easy to fall in when you are 
playing idiots.

But back to the theme of Idiocracy for a minute.  I was thinking 
about it the other day when I was watching a news show on the new 
Russia in which it was claimed that the vast majority of Russians 
were very happy with Putin and the regime he has set up, despite the 
return to stifling of free speech, free press, and essentially 
support for the oligarchies.  I thought: well, could it be that 
Stalin, by killing millions of his own enemies and perceived enemies, 
removed from the Russian gene pool much of the courage gene?  Is that 
why the people are so complacent about what befalls them?

If I understood Idiocracy correctly, it directly has to do with 
breeding, over generations, stupidity.  Well, we're talking genetics 
here and if that is possible (I know, I know; it's just a movie!) 
then it would also be possible to breed out positive 
characteristics as well, no?





 
 There are a number of films that have done well and have anti-war 
themes in them.  I haven't seen Iron Man but what I've read the 
theme was anti-war.  Lord of War is another film that did okay at 
the box office and has been popular on DVD.
 
 Cusack in his interview the other morning said it was clearly the 
executives who didn't want this film in theaters.  It would probably 
do well at the box office and will do well on DVD.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Why I Continue To Run - Clinton Op-Ed

2008-05-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@
wrote:
  
   I just read most of the deranged thread. 
   
   I avoid the political discussions.  These days I think most
about what
   candidate is the one my group can best work with on health care
   issues. Clinton is the most prepared and most focused on the
issues. 
   Obama is aware of the issues and likely will have some focus on
health
   care.  McCain is weakest, but he recently came around on some of the
   HC issues I care about.  I think we can work with any of them,
but we
   still truly hope for a democrat because HC is a democrat issue.
I can
   easily and happily live with Clinton or Obama.  
   
   Now that disclosure is over, I must say that this campaign is filled
   with blown out of proportion issues, much like the last campaign. 
   Give me an effing break--does anyone really think that Hill meant to
   create the impression that she is staying in the race because Obama
   might get whacked?  Right, like that wouldn't backfire.  
  
  I heard and saw the interview. She had the same tone as her oft used
  claim, I don't know why they do it,I JUST find it interesting. To me
  it reeked of the oft used, unstated 'connect the dots' -- but I have
  plausible deniability if you do, wink wink. A slimy tactic used by
  many politicians -- but which she has tried to make into an art form
  (but she is a low grade B artist-- unlike Bill -- and I am not sure
  which skill level is more dangerous).
  
  But I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Lets suppose she was not
  pandering to her claimed hardworking white bigoted redneck
  constituency. Lets assume she was innocent as a lamb. Then clearly I
  to not want such a naive, insensitive loose cannon answering the phone
  at 3am.
  
  and btw, didn't it backfire? So add not very street to the list
  above -- and I worry that she is even in the Senate.
 
 
 This is exactly what I mean.  You put a lot of significance in what
 she said so that no matter how you look at it, she f'd up.  I just
 didn't view it the same way, with the same isignificance/i. Keep
 in mind, I can take either Clinton or Obama, it doesn't matter much to
 me.  
  

If I get your point, its that you value policy over character. As a
first level cut, so do I. 

But I recognize that policy morphs from campaign trail to office. And
from office to what gets through congress and conference committee. 

Character at the high end, is fairly constant. Character on the lower
end can be whatever it takes to sell a particular group on a
particular day. Or simply a lack thereof. 

Character, and intelligence, becomes a strong differentiator for me,
once policy thresholds are demonstrated. Two candidates with similar
policies can be quite different in character. IMO, thats the case in
the democratic race. Not a substantial policy dif between the two. But
a huge chasm in character, grace under pressure, integrity, and vision.

That does make a large difference to me.





[FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 shempmcgurk wrote:
 
  You folks are always going on about how immoral capitalism is and 
how 
  capitalists are only worried about the bottom-line (well, you're 
half 
  right).
 
  If that's the case, then we should expect the capitalists to do 
  anything they can to make a buck...and if that means putting on 
an 
  anti-war film, then so be it.
 
  Please realize that only a very small percentage of films made 
  actually make money or get distribution in the first place.  The 
mere 
  fact that you are talking about it means that the film is a 
success 
  and head and shoulders above what 99% of films do.
 Very funny, Shemp.  Lots of films make money though not at the box 
 office.



Well, you are correct there.

And these numbers confirm it...here is the breakdown for the movie 
studios for how much they make in theatrical release, DVD, and TV 
broadcast:

http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/TVnumbers.htm

Nevertheless, even taking all of the above into consideration, the 
vast majority of movies are still hit and miss.  Cusack is playing to 
the crowd by claiming that the studios are in some sort of cabal 
against him.

If that's the case -- as he and you apparently claim -- then we 
shouldn't expect to ever see the movie released on DVD, the biggest 
money-making area for them.

But, of course, you and I know that it WILL be released on DVD in 
order to make them all sorts of money and MORE people will see it 
there...so that kinda puts your theory (and Cusack's) to bed.





  If the entertainment industry wasn't so successful then it 
 would be easier for truly talented people to get into.  Otherwise 
it's 
 who you know than what you know.




Disagree.

It's like anything else in a marketplace: if you produce something 
that people want, they'll purchase it.





 
 And it is easier to be an independent though the big boys hate 
that.  




Is that why the big boys flock to Sundance every year to get the 
first jump on the best independent and foreign films?

You know, I used to think -- as you apparently do -- that independent 
movies and foreign films were SO much better than the run-of-the-mill 
Hollywood crap that you corretly identify in your post.

But then I started to go to film festivals alot and started to 
realize: there are a WHOLE LOT of crappy independent and foreign 
films and I had to sit through ALOT of terrible films!

And then I realized that the only reason that I was under the 
mistaken impression that independent and foreign films were superior 
to Hollywood films is that the only ones I ever saw was THE CREAM 
THAT FLOATED TO THE TOP.  That is, it took about 200 crappy 
independent movies to make one really, really good independent movie 
that would find its way to my local theatre!  And guess what?  That 
200 to 1 ratio is probably a worse ratio than Hollywood.

Now, I've made up those figures and I could be wrong but that's the 
impression I got.








 However the entertainment industry has always been a crap shoot. 



But that's precisely the point I'm trying to make, Bhairitu: being a 
crap shoot means that you have to make a whole lot of them (and lose 
alot of money in the process) in order to make one good one.

It's like Wild Cat Oil Drilling. They say that 99% of all oil rigs 
set up didn't produce a drop of oil; but it was the 1 out of 100 that 
makes up for not only the 99 that didn't but returns you many, many 
times your investment.






 It's 
 just that they want to systematize it these days for assured 
profits and 
 thats why we get such crap films anymore.



I disagree.

If the studios have found a formula for making a certain type of 
movie that people want to see and makes them money, then you as a 
lover of movies should applaud that.

Why?  Because if it's making them movie, then it's freeing them to 
make movies of quality such as There will be blood and Juno 
and No country for old men.

It may surprise you but alot if not most of the cold-hearted 
executives in Hollywood are there precisely because they want to make 
quality movies and realize that they have to put out bullshit in 
order to get the money to make the type of movie you and I want to 
see.










  Just put something there to 
 get the sheeple to part with their hard earned money at the box 
office.  
 Now they're going into 3D movies again... for the same reason 
they 
 did that in the 1950s because people are staying home watching 
TV or 
 these days their home theaters.



I can't imagine that you make that comment about 3-D if you've 
actually seen 3-D lately.

Well, I've seen about 4 or 5 IMAX movies in 3-D in the past several 
years and I must say that the quality and entertainment value of the 
new 3-D technology is quite incredible and kudos to all for doing it.




 
 As I mentioned before unlike years past we now have the military 
 industrial complex who owns studios (Universal comes 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Great Movie To See

2008-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  Perhaps it has more to do with the fact that anti-Iraq war films 
  simply don't do very well at the box office since the beginning 
of 
  the Gulf War.
  
  Can you name one anti-war film that's done well?  Redacted?
  
  And I don't think the reason is that the movie-going public is 
PRO 
  Iraq War; it's more a factor of fatigue.
 
 For once, I agree with Shemp. But I would use
 the word denial instead of fatigue. It's
 more of a I don't have to think about the war;
 the people we pay to make decisions for us will
 think about the war...it's not MY kids dying
 thang than it is a pro-war thang.
 
  Why should I shell out 18 dollars to get even MORE of it (there 
  are one or two protest songs about the war on the album) when 
  I want to get AWAY from it for a few minutes!
 
 The phenomenon Shemp is describing is not fatigue.
 It is more accurately called plausible deniability.
 It's the same whine we heard from on-the-street 
 Germans after WWII. We didn't know what was happen-
 ing to the Jews...it's not OUR fault. 




Look, I participate on this forum day-in and day-out (except when I 
banned, of course, which is often) and I read all the major sites on 
the internet and watch the cable TV news programs.

WE ARE INUNDATED BY THE MINUTE WITH NEWS OF HOW HORRIBLE THE IRAQ WAR 
IS.  This is NOT the same as what the German on the street was 
hearing during WWII; it's the opposite.






 
 I think what Shemp is trying to say is that he does
 not CARE whether people in Iraq are dying, or whether
 Americans are dying. All he wants is his entertainment,
 so he can listen to boppy, uptempo music in peace and
 count his money.


Yes, Barry.

The more death, misery, and torture, the happier I am.



 
 THIS is why Europeans have lost hope in America.


Uh, this is why the elitist Europeans -- the ilk which you obviously 
hang around with -- have lost hope in America.


 
 It's not because of Bush; it's because of the American
 PEOPLE. They no longer CARE what their government does
 in their name, as long as the entertainment never
 stops.


Any day of the week, we can compare the Europeans' record of death 
and destruction with that of America's and we'll see who has the 
better record.



[FairfieldLife] Re: You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 The bullshit rearranging the deck chairs on
 the Titanic doesn't interest me at all. But
 learning who thinks that he (it's a given that 
 it's a man, or a them composed of men) is the 
 captain (or co-captains) interests me.



Notwithstanding the misplaced misandrist characteristic of the above 
statement, I must agree with Barry.

Who came up with this bullshit -- and not the actual bullshit itself -
- is eternally fascinating.

Plus, I'd give an arm and a leg to see the minutes of the meeting in 
which it was discussed...and my first born for a videotape of the 
proceedings.



[FairfieldLife] Re: You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The policy has just been reinstated that Governors,
 recertified or not, can instruct parents, children
 and siblings in the TM technique for free.
 
 Jai Guru Dev,




How about spouses?

Do they have to pay?

And how about gay spouses...and I'm not joking here.  I know a gay 
initiator up in Canada who wants to initiate his partner.  Now, they 
aren't technically married -- which, as you know, they can do in 
Canada -- but since they've lived together for about 7 years, that 
makes them common law spouses...

So what's the ruling on this?






 
 
 Don't tell anyone, but I charged my mother. Was good karma for her.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Fees Reducing

2008-05-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FW:
 Subject: Another TM course fee reduction for a special circumstance
 Date: Saturday, May 24, 2008, 10:11 PM
 
 
 In light of the recent course fee reductions, the
 Rajas have offered that anyone who paid $2500 to learn
 the TM technique can have the spouse learn for $1000
 and children under 18 for $500 if they are instructed
 by July 31 of this year.
 
 Maharishi Sthapatya-Ved has also been reduced from 20% to 5% of the 
 cost of
 consturction.
 
 Rocks are Melting?



First question:

Who decides this, King Tony?  

The Rajas by vote?

The Rajas by vote, with veto power by da King?

I am most interested in knowing what exactly the mandate given to the 
above roles was by Maharishi.  Was it to use your own common sense in 
making Movement policy  or follow what I have done to a T and 
just rubber stamp things as they come across your desk just as if I 
were still alive (i.e., don't think for yourselves)?

If the mandate was more the former than the latter -- that is, the 
trend towards using one's common sense -- then I think this bodes 
well for the TMO.




[FairfieldLife] FW: I want to go on Dean Ornish's diet and hire a cook .. do you want to do it together?

2008-05-25 Thread Rick Archer
From: carol olicker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I want to go on Dean Ornish's diet and hire a cook .. do you want
to do it together?

 

dear friends

 

I would like to hire a cook to make meals from Dean Ornish's program for
losing weight safely while eating abundantly and reversing heart
diseaseI have two books of wonderful recipes but no time to cook.  If
you would like to do this program too, would you like to share the cost and
services of the cook?  

Also, do you know anyone who would like the job and be good at it?

or someonewho already cooks this way and would be willing to make extra for
pay? 

please forward to anyone you think might be interested

 

thank you

Carol Olicker

 


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[FairfieldLife] 'Military to Stand Down for Domestic Politics'

2008-05-25 Thread Robert
Top-ranking officer warns U.S. military to stay out of politics
By Thom Shanker Published: May 25, 2008
nbsp;WASHINGTON: The highest-ranking U.S. military officer has written an 
unusual open letter to all those in uniform, warning them to stay out of 
politics as the United States approaches a presidential election in which the 
wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will be a central, and certainly divisive, issue.
The U.S. military must remain apolitical at all times, wrote Admiral Mike 
Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. It is and must always be a 
neutral instrument of the state, no matter which party holds sway.
Mullen's essay appears in the coming issue of Joint Force Quarterly, an 
official military journal that is distributed widely among the officer corps.
The statement to the armed forces is the first essay for the journal Mullen has 
written as chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and veteran officers said they could 
not remember when a similar all-hands letter had been issued to remind 
military personnel to remain outside, if not above, contentious political 
debate.
The essay can be seen as a reflection of the deep concern among senior officers 
that the U.S. military, which is paying the highest price in carrying out 
national security policy, may be drawn into politicking this year.
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The war in Iraq already has exceeded the length of World War II and is the 
longest conflict the United States has fought with an all-volunteer military 
since the Revolutionary War.
In particular, members of the Joint Chiefs have expressed worries this election 
year about the influence of retired officers who advise political campaigns, 
some of whom have publicly called for a change in policy or others who serve as 
television commentators.
Among the most outspoken were those who joined the so-called generals' revolt 
in 2006 demanding the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld as defense secretary, as 
well as former officers who have written books attacking the Bush 
administration's planning for and execution of the war in Iraq.
While retired officers have full rights to political activism, their colleagues 
still in uniform fear its effect on those trying to carry out the mission, 
especially more junior officers and enlisted personnel. Active-duty military 
personnel are prohibited from taking part in partisan politics.
As the nation prepares to elect a new president, Mullen wrote, we would all 
do well to remember the promises we made: to obey civilian authority, to 
support and defend the Constitution and to do our duty at all times.
Keeping our politics private is a good first step, he added. The only things 
we should be wearing on our sleeves are our military insignia.
Mullen said he was inspired to write the essay after receiving a constant 
stream of legitimate, if troubling, questions while visiting U.S. military 
personnel around the world, including, What if a Democrat wins? and, What 
will that do to the mission in Iraq?
I am not suggesting that military professionals abandon all personal opinions 
about modern social or political issues, Mullen wrote. What I am suggesting - 
indeed, what the nation expects - is that military personnel will, in the 
execution of the mission assigned to them, put aside their partisan leanings. 
Political opinions have no place in cockpit or camp or conference room.
He noted that part of the deal we made when we joined up was to willingly 
subordinate our individual interests to the greater good of protecting vital 
national interests.
Mullen took his message directly to the U.S. Navy's newest officers on Friday, 
when he spoke to the Naval Academy's graduating class. Military personnel are 
obligated to give their unvarnished, even critical, advice to their civilian 
leaders, he told the class.
If it's followed, great, Mullen said. If it's not, we only have two choices: 
obey the orders we have been given, carrying them out with the professionalism 
and loyalty they deserve, or vote with our feet.
That's it, he added. We don't get to debate those orders after the fact. We 
don't get to say, 'Well, it's not how I would have done it,' or, 'If they had 
only listened to me.' Too late at that point - and too cowardly.



  

[FairfieldLife] Here's Some Money Money

2008-05-25 Thread Bhairitu
Here's my latest music video called Money Money which is about rising 
inflation and how we wish everything could be free.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P06b4JWAOc

Video was made with the free 3D software MovieStorm ( 
www.moviestorm.co.uk )  and music using MixCraft.  Enjoy!
 


[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: I want to go on Dean Ornish's diet and hire a cook .. do you want to do it together?

2008-05-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: carol olicker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: I want to go on Dean Ornish's diet and hire a cook .. do you 
want
 to do it together?
 
  
 
 dear friends
 
  
 
 I would like to hire a cook to make meals from Dean Ornish's program 
for
 losing weight safely while eating abundantly and reversing heart
 diseaseI have two books of wonderful recipes but no time to cook. 

Forget that diet.
Go on a fruit diet in the warm weather, and satisfy only strong 
cravings for other stuff when it gets hard, then a soon as the craving 
is satisfied, go back to fruit diet. You will be entirely amazed. The 
body actually starts to change its way of metabolising and you will 
feel incredible, then just keep going. The body becomes a new body. 
Once you experience this once, you will never think of any other health 
solution by anyone. You will be free of all ailments.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Fees Reducing

2008-05-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
In light of the recent course fee reductions, the Rajas have offered 
that anyone who paid $2500 to learn the TM technique 
 
First question:
 
 Who decides this, King Tony?   The Rajas by vote?
 
 The Rajas by vote, with veto power by da King?

Most likely decided in some back, incense filled room.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: I want to go on Dean Ornish's diet and hire a cook .. do you want to do it together?

2008-05-25 Thread Vaj

On May 25, 2008, at 8:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

 Forget that diet.
 Go on a fruit diet in the warm weather, and satisfy only strong
 cravings for other stuff when it gets hard, then a soon as the craving
 is satisfied, go back to fruit diet. You will be entirely amazed. The
 body actually starts to change its way of metabolising and you will
 feel incredible, then just keep going. The body becomes a new body.
 Once you experience this once, you will never think of any other  
 health
 solution by anyone. You will be free of all ailments.


Do you have peer-reviewed and replicated science that proves you can  
reverse coronary artery disease with your diet? Is your diet used in  
cardiac rehab and hospitals across the country?

Dr. Ornish does and his program is broadly used, often paid for by  
insurance companies.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and the Unmaking of the Democratic Party

2008-05-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 In a way, it's as if the Florida and Michigan
 primaries are now the *last* on the schedule, given
 that the decision as to what to do about the states'
 delegates won't be made until after all the other
 primaries are over. The original punishment is out
 the window for the reasons I stated.


I see what you are saying and you are correct. 
The only way I see this being settled in a way that no-one
can complain (at least about Michigan and Florida) is for
the remaining supers to en mass endorse one candidate or
 the other and settle things before the convention. That way
all the FLorida and Michigan delegates can get seated without
changing the outcome.


Lawson 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Thought police.

2008-05-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
new wrote:
 But I know a whole shitload (in a full 
 sense of the word) of things that I have 
 found that are not IT.

It depends on what 'IT' is. What is 'IT'?




[FairfieldLife] health benefits of flax hull lignans

2008-05-25 Thread tertonzeno
disclaimer: (I don't market supplements): From 
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-Anti-carcinogenic functions (Lignans have been shown to have 
anticancer properties. Breast and prostate cancers are the most 
affected by lignan activity) 





[FairfieldLife] Re: You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 
 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
 
  The policy has just been reinstated that Governors,
  recertified or not, can instruct parents, children
  and siblings in the TM technique for free.
  
  Jai Guru Dev,
 
 
 
 
 How about spouses?
 
 Do they have to pay?
 
 And how about gay spouses...and I'm not joking here.  I know a gay 
 initiator up in Canada who wants to initiate his partner.  Now, they 
 aren't technically married -- which, as you know, they can do in 
 Canada -- but since they've lived together for about 7 years, that 
 makes them common law spouses...
 
 So what's the ruling on this?
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  Don't tell anyone, but I charged my mother. Was good karma for her.
 


I guess that means I can tell the my dozen or so family members that
they can meditate again :) sheesh .can I breathe now or
should I wait for a 'ruling'? 


JohnY




[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogic Flying students in Panama to create invincibility for the nation

2008-05-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It seems to me that invincible is used by the TMO most often with
 respect to countries and institutions.  So if the Panama is invincible
 it is incapable of being conquered or subdued.  Get 160 meditators and
 you are there.  
 
 http://www.invincibledefence.org/prev_wing/defence_research.html
 
 I take the word at face value.
 
 Sometimes I tire of strained explanations of violence in religious
 texts. The BG is violent.  The bible is violent. The Koran is violent.
  I am inclined to think our species tends towards violence against
 itself and religions would be much more spiritual if the writings were
 less violent.
 
 Me, I am strong, I am invincible, I am woman!



As I said, its an interpretation of a phrase in the Yoga Sutras:

In the vicinity of Yoga, violent tendencies are eliminated.

Whether this should be taken seriously is another question, of course.


Lawson






[FairfieldLife] Liz Trotta does her thing on Fox

2008-05-25 Thread sparaig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-AxdVWZFvM

1:30 seconds in. And the irony of the topic of discussion. Wow. A new 
low, even for Fox News.

Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The policy has just been reinstated that Governors,
 recertified or not, can instruct parents, children
 and siblings in the TM technique for free.
 
 Jai Guru Dev,
 
 
 Don't tell anyone, but I charged my mother. Was good karma for her.


Assuming that this rumor is true, it certainly supports my impression that MMY
 did a lot of things towards the end that no-one was comfortable with, but was
 willing to go along with, just because he was The Man. Now that he can't 
contradict decisions made by the rajahs, the rajahs are making decisions that 
make sense to the rest of us, even if they didn't make sense to the 90-year-old 
running the organization until 4.5 months ago.

He may have made these artibrary decisions based on some inner voice of 
spiritual 
intuition, or on some capricious whim of a senile old man, or on a shrewd 
analysis 
of how to test his follower's loyalty. 

Regardless (and regardless of whether this latest rumor  is true or not), his 
more interesting rules are being overturned quite rapidly.




Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Some Fees Reducing

2008-05-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 In light of the recent course fee reductions, the Rajas have offered 
 that anyone who paid $2500 to learn the TM technique 
  
 First question:
  
  Who decides this, King Tony?   The Rajas by vote?
  
  The Rajas by vote, with veto power by da King?
 
 Most likely decided in some back, incense filled room.


WEll, the decision process to create the current structure of Rajahs was 
broadcast
on the Maharishi Channel. Was very intersting to watch all these guys parse 
vague
numerological ramblings by MMY and create a hierarchical structure based on 
them.

Lawson





Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama-Hillary Ticket

2008-05-25 Thread gullible fool

If Hillary is on the ticket, I will not even consider
voting for Obama. I have plenty of company. 40 percent
of those polled don't like her.

Another consideration is Obama should choose a VP who
can be the president eight years after he takes
office, same way the elder Bush followed Reagan. Hill
will be pushing 70 at the time.
 
--- John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To All:
 
 The contest between Obama and Hillary may appear
 contentious at the 
 present time.  But there is another angle to this
 pair.  If they joined 
 forces in the end, they could consolidate all of the
 Democratic votes.  
 It doesn't matter who runs for president.  The
 selection process during 
 the Democratic convention will eventually pick a
 winner one way or the 
 other.
 
 It appears to me that these two candidates have
 grabbed the nation's 
 attention for many months now.  These two should
 join up as the 
 Democratic presidential ticket.  They have a good
 chance of beating 
 McCain.  In the past, JFK teamed up with Johnson to
 win the 
 presidential election even though the two did not
 agree with many 
 political issues at the time.
 
 If they don't, it appears McCain would have the
 winning hand in the 
 November election.
 
 JR
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: You can Initiate Meditation

2008-05-25 Thread gullible fool

 The bullshit rearranging the deck chairs on
 the Titanic doesn't interest me at all.

That perfectly sums up the TMO.

--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 dhamiltony2k5
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The policy has just been reinstated that
 Governors,
  recertified or not, can instruct parents,
 children
  and siblings in the TM technique for free.
  
  Jai Guru Dev,
 
 
 So who is proclaiming these things?
 
 Whose name is on the memos or announcements
 or whatever they are?
 
 The bullshit rearranging the deck chairs on
 the Titanic doesn't interest me at all. But
 learning who thinks that he (it's a given that 
 it's a man, or a them composed of men) is the 
 captain (or co-captains) interests me. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] YouTube - Claymation Animals Discuss Evolution

2008-05-25 Thread Rick Archer
HYPERLINK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIY4zwYBfrUfeature=relatedhttp://www.youtu
be.com/watch?v=fIY4zwYBfrUfeature=related 


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