[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Machines Develop Consciousness?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: John wrote: To All: Machines can play chess, and compute equations in nanoseconds. But at the present state of technology, it can't think and understand the meaning of, I think, therefore I am. But scientists are worried, nonetheless of the future possibilities of machines. What if that which we perceive as consciousness is not consciousness at all but really a machine state? Welcome to Philip K. Dick world. :-) This was one of his major preoccupations, in books like Do Androids Dream Of Elecctric Sheep? (Blade Runner). His view was that if the design were good enough, there would be no way that a cybernetic organism could tell itself from a human organism. He loved to play with the idea that we were all cybernetic organisms just believing we were human. Others have toyed with the idea that what we like to call transcendence and describe as featureless is a field of randomly-flipping 0's and 1's onto which we project either features or lack of features, depending on what we are seeking at the time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Machines Develop Consciousness?
Unchallenged (that is, assumed as true without even citing a source for them) assumptions in John's posts this morning on the possibilities of machine consciouness: * Consciousness is much more complicated than what you propose. The entity in question should be able to distin- guish and choose independently from 'good' and 'evil'. * Also, the entity should be carbon based, that is it contains flesh and blood. * ...machine circuitry is not made of flesh and blood. Therefore, the circuitry cannot be considered as an indicator of true intelligence. I believe that this is called the You scored a goal but I'm going to make up new rules and claim that they are 'official' rules and disallow your goal theory of sports. :-) John is probably unaware that even though HE may assume all these things to be true, NO ONE ELSE is under a similar obligation. Good and evil have never been established to be anything other than ideas, and have never been established -- even by HIM -- as having any- thing to do with defining 'consciousness.' But that doesn't stop him from trotting them out. :-) Similarly, I doubt he can even point us to a reference anywhere in which consciousness is defined as having to be carbon-based. He just made that up, thinking that no one would call him on it. Once again, he is trying to cram the mysteries of creation into the tiny box he believes describes them. This whole thread was an exercise in religious funda- mentalism. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, davidpalmer108 davidpalmer108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: To All: Machines can play chess, and compute equations in nanoseconds. But at the present state of technology, it can't think and understand the meaning of, I think, therefore I am. But scientists are worried, nonetheless of the future possibilities of machines. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/science/26robot.html?ref=science Machines can think! They can think with whatever degree of intelligence their makers and programmers have managed to instill in them. A machine could be programmed to understand that, I compute, therefore I am. Non, mon amie! Programming a set response in a computer or machine does not mean it will be endowed with intelligence. It can only mimic a shadow of consciousness based on the programmer's perception. Consciousness is much more complicated than what you propose. The entity in question should be able to distinguish and choose independently from good and evil. Also, the entity should be carbon based, that is it contains flesh and blood. Anyway, the expression I think, therefore I am is logically flawed - There is a thought, therefore thought exists makes more sense to me. Then one has to conclude that, since we know that thoughts exist, the existence of an experiencer of thoughts is implied. But is the experiencer of thoughts finite or infinite? I think we are all aware that He is infinite. We must conclude that the infinite exists, experiencing thought, and that the whole idea of an individual I must be rejected. From the standpoint of vedic science, you are correct. As man of intellect and a product of his time, Descartes claimed as a human being to be the owner of his thoughts. Therefore, his proclamation was true for him and is valid for many people here in this world today. But where is the experiencer of the computations of our machine? Infinite intelligence is everywhere and is aware of everything, so therefore must be aware of the computations of the machine. All machines already are self-aware. They have more simple nervous systems than us, we could say they have electronic nervous systems, so we are like Gods to them, but I think it is only a matter of degree. D The experiencers of machines are the programmers and the users of the machines. Human beings are the intermediary link to the infinite. As far as the Infinite Knower is concerned, the machine is only metal with electronic components. But It is present and enters everything in the universe including the atom. So we have to conclude that It is present based on the machine's level of consciousness as matter. The electronic circuitry is an imitation of what the complex functions are in the human nervous system. But the machine circuitry is not made of flesh and blood. Therefore, the circuitry cannot be considered as an indicator of true intelligence.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Watch :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Oh hell, here's another. Call it a pity post. And for those who may have noticed Judy and Raunchy having a blast making fun of Barry's sexist pig, and still think feminists don't have a sense of humor, this one is for you: [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_t-EfdceTs60/R4ieT1vCgSI/CqE/03UE9ryM0hQ/s200/feminism%2520is%2520funny.jpg] Raunchy is so anxious to score points that she doesn't even realize that this graphic has been posted on FFL before, AND BY ME. :-) :-) :-) This particular meltdown should be instructive to those who have been following her It's my party and I'll be a victim if I want to act on FFL for some time. Yesterday's drama queen stunt was the result of me simply pushing her victim button by posting a bio of one of the feminists she quoted, a bio written by the feminist herself. I did not comment on the appearance of the feminist, or of any feminist. In fact, I *complimented* the lady for her sense of humor and her awareness that, as a blogger, she is a completely made up creature, with no inherent credibility or stature whatsoever. Raunchy, her buttons firmly pushed, heard some- thing else in her head, and started writing about it as if it had really been said. I said NOTHING about ugly feminists. I merely perpetuated an exer- cise in pushing her buttons based on a comment that was MADE BY A WOMAN that the majority of radical feminists were homely. Raunchy attributed that WOMAN's thoughts to me, and then made up some more, that *she* then proceeded to attribute to me. I'm pointing this out because she still doesn't realize what she did, and that it's what she's been doing on this forum since arriving on it. Someone says something that pushes one of her I'm a victim buttons, and she starts hearing voices in her head. These voices probably come either from her own youth or from her imagination, but they do NOT come from what is actually being said on this forum. She makes up entire dialogues, AS IF THEY REALLY HAPPENED, posts them AS IF THEY REALLY HAPPENED, and then comments on the dialogues and makes pronouncements on them AS IF THEY REALLY HAPPENED. But they never happened. And when this is pointed out to her, she cannot even bring herself to admit it. She retreats into more and more gotcha fantasies, so desperate to change the subject that she posts a graphic as an insult, for- getting that she first saw it when it was posted TO HER earlier by the person she's trying to insult. Raunchy, if you could ever get over these inner voices that you hear and believe to be real, you might be worth having a discussion with. But you can't. You are more attached to the voices than you are reality. That doesn't make you a feminist. It only makes you crazy.
[FairfieldLife] ‘How to let go of the Past’
‘How to let go of the Past’ One day, I was thinking and obsessing about past times... All this past life stuff, as well as present life stuff... And... I got in my car, and something strange happened... I went to adjust my rear-view mirror, and it just fell off... Onto the floor it fell.. Looking out, where the mirror had been, There was no rear view mirror there...but instead: All I could see was the bluish/grey sky...strange at first...so used to seeing that mirror there. Then I thought, “All of the past is contained in the rear-view mirror of your mind... Ah, ha, I thought? Anyway, I was pondering this in meditation, that this provided a good metaphor, for letting go of the past... So, even in meditation, if I start to ponder the past, I see it as just an image, in a small rear view mirror... And just let if fall off, the screen of my mind. And view, instead, the clarity of the present... Without the distraction of peering backward... And, like Bob D. says: 'watch the parking meters'... In order that you won't see them, in your rear view mirror, If they get fed, at feeding time. r.g.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Watch :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Oh hell, here's another. Call it a pity post. And for those who may have noticed Judy and Raunchy having a blast making fun of Barry's sexist pig, and still think feminists don't have a sense of humor, this one is for you: [http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_t-EfdceTs60/R4ieT1vCgSI/CqE/03UE9ryM0hQ/s200/feminism%2520is%2520funny.jpg] Raunchy is so anxious to score points that she doesn't even realize that this graphic has been posted on FFL before, AND BY ME. :-) :-) :-) Says Barry, who tried to score points on me all day yesterday and failed. This particular meltdown should be instructive to those who have been following her It's my party and I'll be a victim if I want to act on FFL for some time. Yesterday's drama queen stunt was the result of me simply pushing her victim button by posting a bio of one of the feminists she quoted, a bio written by the feminist herself. Says Barry, still smarting from having HIS buttons pushed. I did not comment on the appearance of the feminist, or of any feminist. In fact, I *complimented* the lady for her sense of humor and her awareness that, as a blogger, she is a completely made up creature, with no inherent credibility or stature whatsoever. LOL. This is instructive folks. This is exactly how Barry likes his women, a made up creature with no credibility or stature. Don't be fooled by this fraud. When Barry went to Violet Sock's blog, he hoped to find a picture of another feminist he could add to his gallery of unattractive vs attractive feminists, keeping score and hoping he could add Violet to the unattractive list. Now when he arrived at Violet's blog he discovered that Violet has an amazing sense of humor, which delighted Barry so thoroughly, he posted her entire fantasy bio. I pointed out that Barry completely sidestepped mentioning that Violet writes insightful commentaries on women's issues and he went ape-shit crazy on me the rest of the day, having HIS buttons pushed, big time. Raunchy, her buttons firmly pushed, heard some- thing else in her head, and started writing about it as if it had really been said. I said NOTHING about ugly feminists. I merely perpetuated an exer- cise in pushing her buttons based on a comment that was MADE BY A WOMAN that the majority of radical feminists were homely. Raunchy attributed that WOMAN's thoughts to me, and then made up some more, that *she* then proceeded to attribute to me. The MADE BY A WOMAN, woman that Barry refers to is an anti-feminist. Barry wants us to believe his grand plan to post pictures of feminists, is simply a Zen exercise in button pushing and not an attempt to discredit feminists. Rubbish. By the way I also said NOTHING about ugly feminists. I don't judge people for their appearance. Barry made that up. Barry judges women for their appearance, Barry does that, not me. I simply pointed out the truth of the matter: Barry's relationship to women never left puberty. He still thinks it's acceptable to make fun of girls using juvenile taunts, Hey! Get a load of the zits on her face. Wow! Is she a Fatso! etc. etc. etc. How asinine can you get? Barry is married to the idea that pushing buttons is a good thing, a virtuous pursuit, a technique for enlightenment he learned from his abusive asshole guru, Rama. Barry emulates him everyday pretending he's doing it to help us not take ourselves so seriously. He has become so deranged from engaging in this odious technique, that he has completely masked, even from himself, the boiling rage that generates and motivates his daily attempts at button pushing. Now THAT'S what I call serious. Anger, his own that of others comforts him, like a sacrament, it feeds his GIGANTIC ego and sullies any feeling of goodness we can have for each other on FFLife. The Deatheater characters in Harry Potter, sucking happiness out of others, comes to mind when I read Barry. Only a narcissist, like Barry would think that power tripping over us is a good thing. After he takes his daily dump, he'll claim it was only his OPINION and he doesn't give a shit, when in fact he does. Liar. I'm pointing this out because she still doesn't realize what she did, and that it's what she's been doing on this forum since arriving on it. And what Barry has been doing ever since I arrived is whine whenever I mock him for pompous lies, transparent projections, and down right abusive behavior. Someone says something that pushes one of her I'm a victim buttons, and she starts hearing voices in her head. These voices probably come either from her own youth or from her imagination, but they do NOT come from what is actually being said on this forum. She makes up entire dialogues, AS IF THEY REALLY HAPPENED, posts them AS IF THEY REALLY HAPPENED,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4Od7kqDT8 Dr. Dan Siegel, MD, father of modern attachment psychiatry and meditation researcher on Google Tech Talks Personal Growth Series speaks on Mindsight, the new science of personal transformation. Of the different settings that are using these techniques that they are studying, who teaches the techniques? What is the array of techniques and who are they taught? Led group meditations? Lay instructors, therapist ounselors, bring in non-secular ordained or certified people,, classroom teachers otherwise, or health clinic staffs like who teach the various techniques that are like TM. Individual instruction, classroom instruction? Learned and practiced by led meditations? ala quiet time meditations structured in to the work or school days. Sounds like Siegel is following a number to settings and finding similar results. Just wondering. -D in FF
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mindsight, cutting edge meditation research
On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:04 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr4Od7kqDT8 Dr. Dan Siegel, MD, father of modern attachment psychiatry and meditation researcher on Google Tech Talks Personal Growth Series speaks on Mindsight, the new science of personal transformation. Of the different settings that are using these techniques that they are studying, who teaches the techniques? Depends on who's doing the research and where. Sometimes it's monks, sometimes it might be a Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction instructor (MBSR), etc. What is the array of techniques and who are they taught? Typically vipashyana but it ranges from vipashyana (insight meditation) to shamatha (samadhi meditation) to nondual 'resting in the natural state' or the union of vipashyana and shamatha. Roughly speaking, you can divide these into two styles: Open Presence meditation or Fixed Attention meditation. Led group meditations? Lay instructors, therapist ounselors, bring in non-secular ordained or certified people,, classroom teachers otherwise, or health clinic staffs like who teach the various techniques that are like TM. Individual instruction, classroom instruction? Learned and practiced by led meditations? ala quiet time meditations structured in to the work or school days. Sounds like Siegel is following a number to settings and finding similar results. Just wondering. It's typically going to be some senior practitioner who instructs in meditation practice. Some practice in groups, some practice primarily alone, some do group setting and alone.
[FairfieldLife] Where does our energy go now?
I was just wondering tonight, after meditation, about an old post from Earl Kaplan. It must've been around 2004-2005 time frame. He claimed in the post that Maharishi had some way of 'stealing' our energy for himself. There were quite a few other rather far out accusations, some were fact-based, some were merely speculation. What i'm wondering is now that Maharishi has passed away, where does all of our energy go now? I have tried to contemplate some theories, some of which are logical, some of which are just for humor. theory #1 - Maharishi was never stealing our energy to begin with, it was ours then, and still is now. Otherwise, I would feel something different now when I meditate. theory #2 - Maharishi is in a celestial realm conducting 'transcendental laundering operations' where he siphens the energy from all meditators on this planet in order to benefit wherever he is now. theory #3 - Maharishi gave the energy siphening technique to King Raja Ram, now he gets the benefits of all of our energy. theory #4 - Maharishi gave his energy siphening technique to the 'divine left wing' of the white house in order to destroy the 'evil right wing'.it seems to be working. theory #5 - Maharishi gave his energy siphening technique to Islamic extremists in order to destroy the evil 1st world countries throughout planet. theory #5 - Maharishi gave his energy siphening technique to Barack Obama in order to get elected. (although this diminishes Obama's genious as a political campaigner, I lean towards it being possible) Anyone else have any theories on where our Energy goes now??? seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Watch :-)
raunchydog wrote: The inner voice of Rama pounds like an anvil in Barry's brain causing him to compulsively push buttons in order to AVOID discussing anything... He was born Frederick P. Lenz III on February ninth, 1950, in Mercy Hospital, San Diego. It was during the subsequent year, which he spent in prison for selling drugs, that he was handed a promotional brochure for Indian guru Chinmoy Kumar Ghose... 'Take Me for a Ride: Coming of Age in a Destructive Cult' by Mark Laxer Outer Rim Press, 1993 http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/ http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/ In the early nineteen-nineties Ghose banned all his disciples from reading any of the works of Sri Aurobindo... Sri Chinmoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Chinmoy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Chinmoy 'Cartwheels in a Sari: A Memoir of Growing Up Cult' by Jayanti Tamm Harmony, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/nft98h http://tinyurl.com/nft98h
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
seekliberation wrote: He claimed in the post that Maharishi had some way of 'stealing' our energy for himself... Not sure if there is a 'psychic' energy that can be 'stolen' but because energy is strictly conserved and is also locally conserved, you need to remember that, by definition, the transfer of energy entails work. E = W Not sure if sitting around listening to the Marshy is actually work. 'Taking the Quantum Leap: The New Physics for Nonscientists' by Fred A. Wolf Harper Perennial, 1989 http://tinyurl.com/lflftw http://tinyurl.com/lflftw 'The Feynman Lectures on Physics' By Richard Feynman Addison Wesley, 2005
[FairfieldLife] Translations For Our Times
What they say. What they mean. -- I write a blog. -- I rant on the Internet. -- I write a blog that can be described as pick one a) leftist, b) conservative, c) feminist, d) anti-misandry, e) progressive. -- I rant on the internet, and my rants can be described as pick one a) angry, b) angry, c) angry, d) angry, e) angry. -- I view my blog as a full-time effort. -- I got fired from my job over a year ago and have been unable to find another one. -- My blog is a community service. -- Nobody thinks I'm good enough to pay me for my writing. My greatest accomplishment was the blog in which I skewered insert name of person blogger is envious of here. -- I've never accomplished anything. All I do is rant. -- My blog is on a forum of like-minded people. -- I'm afraid to rant unless I can rant to people who already believe the things I believe. I like preaching to the converted. -- I prefer the small blog forum I'm on to the larger ones. -- They won't let me on any of the larger ones, and besides I like being a big fish in a small pond. I am manning the front lines of the blogging revolution. I rarely leave my house, except to stock up on booze. -- I write back to people who comment on my blogs because I want to stay in touch with my readers. -- I rarely leave my house, no one visits me, and the people who comment on my blogs are the closest things I have to human contact. -- The hit counter on my my blog forum says that mine gets an average of 101 hits per day. -- I sit at home and read the things I've written over and over all day. The other hit is my mother, checking to see if I have found a job yet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Translations For Our Times
Is Barry having a melt down? Vote now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: What they say. What they mean. -- I write a blog. -- I rant on the Internet. -- I write a blog that can be described as pick one a) leftist, b) conservative, c) feminist, d) anti-misandry, e) progressive. -- I rant on the internet, and my rants can be described as pick one a) angry, b) angry, c) angry, d) angry, e) angry. -- I view my blog as a full-time effort. -- I got fired from my job over a year ago and have been unable to find another one. -- My blog is a community service. -- Nobody thinks I'm good enough to pay me for my writing. My greatest accomplishment was the blog in which I skewered insert name of person blogger is envious of here. -- I've never accomplished anything. All I do is rant. -- My blog is on a forum of like-minded people. -- I'm afraid to rant unless I can rant to people who already believe the things I believe. I like preaching to the converted. -- I prefer the small blog forum I'm on to the larger ones. -- They won't let me on any of the larger ones, and besides I like being a big fish in a small pond. I am manning the front lines of the blogging revolution. I rarely leave my house, except to stock up on booze. -- I write back to people who comment on my blogs because I want to stay in touch with my readers. -- I rarely leave my house, no one visits me, and the people who comment on my blogs are the closest things I have to human contact. -- The hit counter on my my blog forum says that mine gets an average of 101 hits per day. -- I sit at home and read the things I've written over and over all day. The other hit is my mother, checking to see if I have found a job yet.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where does our energy go now?
On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:34 AM, seekliberation wrote: I was just wondering tonight, after meditation, about an old post from Earl Kaplan. It must've been around 2004-2005 time frame. He claimed in the post that Maharishi had some way of 'stealing' our energy for himself. There were quite a few other rather far out accusations, some were fact-based, some were merely speculation. The original message was a draft and leaked before it was finished. What i'm wondering is now that Maharishi has passed away, where does all of our energy go now? I have tried to contemplate some theories, some of which are logical, some of which are just for humor. I think the intent behind Earl's letter was not so much to state that Mahesh was some sort of vibe-sucker, but instead his practices--for what ever reason-resulted in imbalanced awakenings of the kundalini shakti. In fact, it is believed that one sure way to induce an imbalanced arising is to have then meditate on formulas for the acquisition of siddhis. This basically blocks the nervous system from attaining unity, but one can get glimpses and have experiences which are flashy, but tend to cycle rather than remain stable. This is not mere speculation, this has been observed in many TM-sidhas. Depending on the type of imbalanced arising and the student themself, different side effects occur. The primary benefit to the guru is the student tends to just 'stick around'. Some may become trapped in subtle realms, there are any number of possibilities.
[FairfieldLife] Tom Harkin fund raiser for Curt Hanson
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
I think the intent behind Earl's letter was not so much to state that Mahesh was some sort of vibe-sucker, but instead his practices--for what ever reason-resulted in imbalanced awakenings of the kundalini shakti. In fact, it is believed that one sure way to induce an imbalanced arising is to have then meditate on formulas for the acquisition of siddhis. This basically blocks the nervous system from attaining unity, but one can get glimpses and have experiences which are flashy, but tend to cycle rather than remain stable. I don't remember thoroughly what the letter said. I do remember what you're talking about though, regarding imbalanced growth and 'glimpses' of unity rather than the stabilization of it. However, I do remember well enough to recall that there was some mention of Maharishi being able to take energy from others. Some of the original letter went so far out in left field that I started to disregard it. However, Earl's letter did succeed in confirming some suspicions that I already had that MMY and the TMO don't exactly have this entire cycle of birth and death mapped out quite as well as they have most people believing. I could go on for quite a while about things I know for fact, but if I do, that will only create too much fuel for follow on discussions that would last for weeks. seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Translations For Our Times
raunchydog wrote: Is Barry having a melt down? Apparently Barry has a twitter, a blog, a web page and he uses newsgroups, chat rooms, rss, Facebook, My Space, and email, but he still can't get a date, because he won't put up a photo of himself because he's bald, so he hits on you and Judy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Translations For Our Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex no_re...@... wrote: raunchydog wrote: Is Barry having a melt down? Apparently Barry has a twitter, a blog, a web page and he uses newsgroups, chat rooms, rss, Facebook, My Space, and email, but he still can't get a date, because he won't put up a photo of himself because he's bald, so he hits on you and Judy? Unrequited love is surely painful. However, the post Genuinely Uplifting Love Story could prove promising, perhaps a worthwhile avenue to explore for companionship. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/225775
[FairfieldLife] Gates caller never mentioned race
This is getting even more interesting. Apparently the woman who made the initial 911 call never mentioned race and according to the news story linked to below, tapes of the call, once released will confirm this. If this is the case, that means that when Crowley came to the house that he had no idea what the race of the alleged suspect was, further undermining any claims by Gates regarding race as a factor: http://tinyurl.com/m4qwtk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gates caller never mentioned race
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.netwrote: This is getting even more interesting. Apparently the woman who made the initial 911 call never mentioned race and according to the news story linked to below, tapes of the call, once released will confirm this. If this is the case, that means that when Crowley came to the house that he had no idea what the race of the alleged suspect was, further undermining any claims by Gates regarding race as a factor: This makes no sense. Crowley wasn't expecting a black guy but when he got there, the suspect was black. And that wouldn't have set Crowley off? Dick Gregory used to say that in the South it didn't matter how big you got as long as you didn't get too close. In the North it didn't matter how close you got as long as you didn't get too big.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:47 AM, seekliberation wrote: I could go on for quite a while about things I know for fact, but if I do, that will only create too much fuel for follow on discussions that would last for weeks. You should go ahead and share what you will. If there's a lot of discussion, that could be a good thing. At least it'll be out in the open and if necessary, some healing can begin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary on Meet the Press
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Hillary: The president is the president, and the president is responsible for setting policy. We have a great relationship. I see him usually several times a week, at least one on one,'' she said. I am the chief advisor on foreign policy, but the president makes the decisions At the end of the day, it is the president who has to set and articulate policy... But I know very well that a team that works together is going to do a better job for America. Why aren't you willing to do the same? http://tinyurl.com/ljrufl http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/07/hillary_clinton_advisor_team_p.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gates caller never mentioned race
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@...wrote: This is getting even more interesting. Apparently the woman who made the initial 911 call never mentioned race and according to the news story linked to below, tapes of the call, once released will confirm this. If this is the case, that means that when Crowley came to the house that he had no idea what the race of the alleged suspect was, further undermining any claims by Gates regarding race as a factor: This makes no sense. Crowley wasn't expecting a black guy but when he got there, the suspect was black. And that wouldn't have set Crowley off? Oh, I think Crowley got set off all right but it was the result of Gates immediately making that comment about being a black man in America which all reports indicate were the first words out of his mouth. If I were color blind and just doing my job, that would certainly set me off. But how is that in the slightest a case of racial profiling or singling someone out for unfair treatment on the basis of skin color? Dick Gregory used to say that in the South it didn't matter how big you got as long as you didn't get too close. In the North it didn't matter how close you got as long as you didn't get too big. ...speaking of not making sense, I have absolutely no idea what that means. But coming from Dick Gregory, that's par for the course. Gregory is into urine therapy. When Muhammed Ali was training for one of his fights back in the '70s he enlisted Gregory to provide him with nutrition because Gregory was into juicing which he started to do for Ali, and Ali loved it. Then one day Ali came to the Champ and said: Now, Muhammed, I want you to start drinking a cup of your piss every morning. Within an hour, Gregory and his juicing machines were thrown out of the training camp, never to be seen by Ali again.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM, seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.comwrote: I don't remember thoroughly what the letter said. I do remember what you're talking about though, regarding imbalanced growth and 'glimpses' of unity rather than the stabilization of it. However, I do remember well enough to recall that there was some mention of Maharishi being able to take energy from others. Some of the original letter went so far out in left field that I started to disregard it. However, Earl's letter did succeed in confirming some suspicions that I already had that MMY and the TMO don't exactly have this entire cycle of birth and death mapped out quite as well as they have most people believing. I could go on for quite a while about things I know for fact, but if I do, that will only create too much fuel for follow on discussions that would last for weeks. I very thoroughly remember what the letter said. I can see it in my minds eye on the screen in front of me and read it line by line, word for word. I've got that kind of memory. If it was a draft, it's sense or message wouldn't have changed much. The message was that Maharishi/his family robbed the TMO blind. Also, that Kaplan had gone from saint to saint and he observed their devotes had better results and were not dragged out, as the people in the domes and TMO are nor buckled over from osteoperosis as THMD and THP are. Kaplan said that Maharishi drained their energy. He did not state, as Vaj conveniently and wrongly remembers that Maharishi made a mistake teaching the sidhis because they prevent one from attaining Unity and make one unstable. Vaj is so full of his own old bullshit about the sidhis making your kundalini cycle/be unstable, that all he remembers about the letter is what Vaj preaches to FFL daily. If we give Vaj enough time he'll surely remember also that Kaplan said that Buddhist meditation, mantra or mindfulness, is the only true, only superior form of meditation and the Shamatha Project reigns supreme. We are at peril. The numbers have dropped big time: http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary on Meet the Press
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:41 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary on Meet the Press --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Hillary: The president is the president, and the president is responsible for setting policy. We have a great relationship. I see him usually several times a week, at least one on one,'' she said. I am the chief advisor on foreign policy, but the president makes the decisions At the end of the day, it is the president who has to set and articulate policy... But I know very well that a team that works together is going to do a better job for America. Why aren't you willing to do the same? Yeah. It doesn't sound like Hillary considers Obama a stuffed shirt.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gates caller never mentioned race
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:50 AM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.netwrote: Oh, I think Crowley got set off all right but it was the result of Gates immediately making that comment about being a black man in America which all reports indicate were the first words out of his mouth. If I were color blind and just doing my job, that would certainly set me off. But how is that in the slightest a case of racial profiling or singling someone out for unfair treatment on the basis of skin color? Gates was raging on about unfair treatment because he was black, spouting on about the plight of the black man in America. He was wrong there, IMO. The racial profiling, the selective treatment based on race came when Crowley decided to entice Gates outside so he could arrest him for disorderly conduct. If Gates had been white, Crowley would have more than likely just flipped his card to Gates, got in his car and driven off. That Crowley couldn't handle the situation shows in Crowley's not doing his duty by clearing the residence and grounds. I have called the police because of a prowler a number of times in a number of states. In each case the sheriff / police carefully cleared the area and advised me to drag the prowler inside after shooting him. But that was white on white.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Seelisberg
. Please sign up here - as a supporter in spirit! Jai Guru Dev http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:11:51 +0200 Von: ve...@gmx.de An: ve...@gmx.de Betreff: Save Maharishi\'s Seelisberg ! Jai Guru Dev ___ Invest and help to SAVE the Capital in Seelisber! (You might have heard, International wants to sell it.) Read this letter of a friend of mine. Ank keep the following in mind: Lately in the last years when Maharishi was asked, how it was for him to not be any more in Seelisberg, he answered: I never left Seelisberg! - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi This we have to have in mind, when we read the following. Jai Guru Dev Irma Success for Maharishi's Seelisberg 1000 signatures until Aug. 1. 2009 --- Please join the comitee 1000 to reach the following goals: § Preserve the Maharishi-hotels Sonnenberg and Kulm in Seelisberg § Restore and extend the properties: add parking, east-entrance to Kulm, ect. § commercial use of the hotels and grounds - with a Vedic Senior Residence - with extention of services of the MAV-clinic - with professional MERU-activities: articles in science media, conferences - with ayurvedic top-restauration; bus groupes, weddings etc. - with sub leasing, co-operations (with health insurance?) § profit shares to support Brahmastan, India and similar § generate funds to realise these realistic goals I know that we can effect the decisions! Yes we can! Do you think the same? Please copy/send this mail to many like minded friends, today (avoid snake-mails) And sign the list at: http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv cordial greetings from Switzerland Kurt Matti Jai Guru Dev ** Kurt Matti Kapuzinerweg 9 6006 Luzern, Switzerland tel: +41 41 420 67 01 fx: +41 41 420 67 30 panor...@swissonline.ch http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate für nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl01
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of It's just a ride Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now? On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:47 AM, seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't remember thoroughly what the letter said. I do remember what you're talking about though, regarding imbalanced growth and 'glimpses' of unity rather than the stabilization of it. However, I do remember well enough to recall that there was some mention of Maharishi being able to take energy from others. Some of the original letter went so far out in left field that I started to disregard it. However, Earl's letter did succeed in confirming some suspicions that I already had that MMY and the TMO don't exactly have this entire cycle of birth and death mapped out quite as well as they have most people believing. I could go on for quite a while about things I know for fact, but if I do, that will only create too much fuel for follow on discussions that would last for weeks. I very thoroughly remember what the letter said. I can see it in my minds eye on the screen in front of me and read it line by line, word for word. I've got that kind of memory. If it was a draft, it's sense or message wouldn't have changed much. The message was that Maharishi/his family robbed the TMO blind. Also, that Kaplan had gone from saint to saint and he observed their devotes had better results and were not dragged out, as the people in the domes and TMO are nor buckled over from osteoperosis as THMD and THP are. Kaplan said that Maharishi drained their energy. He did not state, as Vaj conveniently and wrongly remembers that Maharishi made a mistake teaching the sidhis because they prevent one from attaining Unity and make one unstable. Vaj is so full of his own old bullshit about the sidhis making your kundalini cycle/be unstable, that all he remembers about the letter is what Vaj preaches to FFL daily. If we give Vaj enough time he'll surely remember also that Kaplan said that Buddhist meditation, mantra or mindfulness, is the only true, only superior form of meditation and the Shamatha Project reigns supreme. The letter is still in the files section, at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TMO%20--%20the%20Odd%20Sid e/, for those without bionic memories.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
On Jul 27, 2009, at 12:59 PM, It's just a ride wrote: If it was a draft, it's sense or message wouldn't have changed much. The message was that Maharishi/his family robbed the TMO blind. Also, that Kaplan had gone from saint to saint and he observed their devotes had better results and were not dragged out, as the people in the domes and TMO are nor buckled over from osteoperosis as THMD and THP are. Kaplan said that Maharishi drained their energy. He did not state, as Vaj conveniently and wrongly remembers that Maharishi made a mistake teaching the sidhis because they prevent one from attaining Unity and make one unstable. Vaj is so full of his own old bullshit about the sidhis making your kundalini cycle/be unstable, that all he remembers about the letter is what Vaj preaches to FFL daily. If we give Vaj enough time he'll surely remember also that Kaplan said that Buddhist meditation, mantra or mindfulness, is the only true, only superior form of meditation and the Shamatha Project reigns supreme. Actually I was telling you what you didn't know from the letter. What you probably didn't know was that the Kaplans, the Doulliards and numerous other former movement folks consulted with yogis from the Saraswati lineage and found out the mechanics behind (what was called in the letter) blocks on people's nervous systems to block their Kundalini from firing and to siphon off their energy. It sounds like Earl's understanding at that time was not complete and/or his presentation was in draft form, but since this work is now published, we do have a detailed explanation for the type of things that are/ were going on in exquisite detail. It's not what Kaplan said--it's what his source knew and knows--and has shared. It's also what I've learned from directly speaking to damaged sidhas who sought help from these same yogis. As far as I am aware Kaplan is not a practitioner of Buddhist meditation. Since there are many authentic paths, great meditation methods can be found in many places Hick. You just need a good teacher who's happy to share them and knows what s/he is doing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary on Meet the Press
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: On Behalf Of do.rflex --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Hillary: The president is the president, and the president is responsible for setting policy. We have a great relationship. I see him usually several times a week, at least one on one,'' she said. I am the chief advisor on foreign policy, but the president makes the decisions At the end of the day, it is the president who has to set and articulate policy... But I know very well that a team that works together is going to do a better job for America. Why aren't you willing to do the same? Yeah. It doesn't sound like Hillary considers Obama a stuffed shirt. It sounds, in fact, as if Hillary actually cares about something other than imagined vengeance for imagined affronts. Plus, she actually seems to want to accomplish something instead of bitching and moaning and holding onto old grudges and playing the victim. I'd have her drummed out of the Feminist's Union if I were you. You can't have anyone around who thinks like this...she might infect others... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gates caller never mentioned race
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: [snip] If Gates had been white, Crowley would have more than likely just flipped his card to Gates, got in his car and driven off. [snip] Let's extend your argument just a wee bit: if Gates had been white and Crowley had been black, what do you think Crowley would have done after Gates made the yo mama comment to Crowley? Do you think Crowley would have just got in his car and driven off? Methinks Gates would have had, at the very least, a phone book shoved into his gut in the privacy of a police interrogation room, just like cops did back in the days. I think Gates got off light and Crowley showed incredible restraint.
[FairfieldLife] Seelisberg = Bevan Morris is now in Seelisberg
. On August 1st there is the National Day of Switzerland with a great celebration in Seelisberg. Special guest of this celebration will be Bevan Morris. Every meditator is welcome in Seelisberg. (See the programm below.) Jai Guru Dev And please don't forget to sign up here (as sign of your (mental) support for the capital in Seelisberg: http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv _ Dear friends It is a very great joy to inform you that Dr. Bevan Morris, the Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace, will be visiting Seelisberg and attending as guest of honour the National Day celebration on 1. August. You are very cordially invited to join us all in celebrating the 718 birthday of our Nation at the Capital of Heaven on Earth in Seelisberg. I think it was in 1971 when Maharishi-ji came here with Bevan Morris to have a first look at the Sonnenberg and Kulm. Dr. Morris mentioned that he was awestruck by the magnificence of the location and the historical importance right above the Rütli. Later on Dr. Morris spent many years in Switzerland teaching the TM-Sidhi program to many thousand course participants in Hotels all over the country and assumed many other important functions in Seelisberg. He is thrilled to come back to Seelisberg after two decades and is very grateful to the Swiss Governors for inviting him. Please join us in welcoming Bevan Morris in Seelisberg and invite all your Sidhas and Meditators to come with you for the celebrations in Seelisberg. (RSVP – only limited seating available for lunch and the boat ride in the evening). Maria and Otto Odermatt have planned a beautiful and eventful day. See below. We are very much looking forward meeting you and your Meditators and Sidhas. With our very best wishes Jai Guru Dev Raja Felix Mona _ 1. August Program in Seelisberg 11:30 – Sonnenberg Reception Welcoming and garlanding the Prime Minister Dr. Bevan Morris, and Raja Felix and Mona, the Mother of his Domains, to the sound of Alpine Horns. Ringing the Bell of Invincibility. 11:45 – Terrace in front of Sonnenberg Raising the Flag of the Global Country of World Peace on the terrace above the Rütli. 12:00 – Garden area in front of Sonnenberg Lunch banquet with entertainment. 13:30 Walk and talk. 14:30 – Grand Assembly Hall Sonnenberg Starting the celebration with the sound of the Alpine Horns, followed by Rashtra Gita (national anthem of the Global Country of World Peace) Puja to Guru Dev Address by Prime Minister Dr. Bevan Morris Short speeches by Raja Felix and Mona Address by the Raj Rajeshwari for Switzerland (by conference call from Vlodrop) Cake and candle light ceremony Video tape of Maharishi’s address during a 1. August celebration in Seelisberg National Anthem 17:00 – Grand Assembly Hall Sonnenberg and “flying rooms” Group meditation and Yogic Flying 19:30 – Garden area in front of Sonnenberg Dinner 20:30 Walking to the Treib-Seelisberg-Bahn Riding on the furnicular to Treib Embarking on the boat 21:45 – on Lake Lucerne Start of grand firework in Brunnen Please sign up here: http://www.doodle.com/h463cbd86fizebfv Jai Guru Dev -- GRATIS für alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome
[FairfieldLife] Re: Translations For Our Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Is Barry having a melt down? Vote now. Yes ofcourse. But he is in a constant meltdown 365 days a year. What makes this meltdown deeper than usual is because he had to cave in to women. W O M E N ! That's intolerable for him. ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Translations For Our Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: Is Barry having a melt down? Vote now. Yes ofcourse. But he is in a constant meltdown 365 days a year. What makes this meltdown deeper than usual is because he had to cave in to women. W O M E N ! That's intolerable for him. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can Machines Develop Consciousness?
John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: John wrote: To All: Machines can play chess, and compute equations in nanoseconds. But at the present state of technology, it can't think and understand the meaning of, I think, therefore I am. But scientists are worried, nonetheless of the future possibilities of machines. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/science/26robot.html?ref=science What if that which we perceive as consciousness is not consciousness at all but really a machine state? By definition, machine means that it is a creation of human beings. Consciousness is a function for and by humans. Therefore, consciousness should not be considered as a machine state. That's a very narrow definition of a machine. If anything living organisms can still be classified as organic machines. They work on the same laws of physics as inorganic machines. And humans aren' t the only living organisms with consciousness. Most likely any organism has consciousness regardless of how crude. Basically you can't prove nor disprove the statement I made. That may be beyond the realm of human consciousness.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
Vaj wrote: Actually I was telling you what you didn't know from the letter... Letter from David Kaplan: FairfieldLife/message/26771 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/26771 If this is what Earl Caplan wrote; he should be deeply ashamed of having written it. If you choose to believe or do something and later change your mind, take responsibilty for your own decision and your own motivations to believe and act as you did rather than blaming astral beings. If you put the blame on some other external person or demon you have taken the coward's way of avoiding examining your own weaknesses and failings. If you accept responsibility for your own thoughts and actions then their isn't anyone else to blame but oneself, then no motivation for vengeance, then no desire to engage in the worst kind of contemptible slander as he does here... Read more: From: Stephen K Anderson Subject: Re: earl kaplan letter Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: August 3, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/lkdy77 http://tinyurl.com/lkdy77%20
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Machines Develop Consciousness?
TurquoiseB wrote: His view was that if the design were good enough, there would be no way that a cybernetic organism could tell itself from a human organism... Actually, in Phillip K. Dick's world, the humans couldn't tell the difference between replicants and themselves. Replicants already know themselves to be replicants and they already know they are not humans. This brings up the question of human consciousness, robot consciousness, and how they are similar and different from us thinking humanoids. The main theme of Phillip K. Dick's novel concerns similarity and difference; sentient robots that look identical to humans, but are not human at all. The central question is whether or not we can spot replicants in order to retire them. Looming in the background is the question: is Deckard himself a replicant? Read more: From: Willytex Subject: Thinking Like Replicants Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: February 27, 2002 http://tinyurl.com/mwj6ly http://tinyurl.com/mwj6ly
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can Machines Develop Consciousness?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: John wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: John wrote: To All: Machines can play chess, and compute equations in nanoseconds. But at the present state of technology, it can't think and understand the meaning of, I think, therefore I am. But scientists are worried, nonetheless of the future possibilities of machines. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/26/science/26robot.html?ref=science What if that which we perceive as consciousness is not consciousness at all but really a machine state? By definition, machine means that it is a creation of human beings. Consciousness is a function for and by humans. Therefore, consciousness should not be considered as a machine state. That's a very narrow definition of a machine. If anything living organisms can still be classified as organic machines. They work on the same laws of physics as inorganic machines. And humans aren' t the only living organisms with consciousness. Most likely any organism has consciousness regardless of how crude. Basically you can't prove nor disprove the statement I made. That may be beyond the realm of human consciousness. This thread started out as consciousness at par with human beings. I agree with you that living organisms below humans have consciousness, but not at the same level as humans. These living organisms, including animals below humans, are governed by prakriti or Nature. We are assuming that life and consciousness at the human level are the pinnacle of creation on Earth. At this level, we can understand the possibility of an Infinite Knower and can recognize the difference between good and evil. We can further independently select between these two choices for our own existence. For that matter, Nature as a whole can be considered as a machine. But it is operated by a Knower who runs the universe according to Its will. There are some people who believe that Nature is merely a cosmic machine and operates independently on its own. I personally believe that this position has major flaws. But that's a discussion for another day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gates caller never mentioned race
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:54 PM, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@netscape.netwrote: Let's extend your argument just a wee bit: if Gates had been white and Crowley had been black, what do you think Crowley would have done after Gates made the yo mama comment to Crowley? Do you think Crowley would have just got in his car and driven off? Methinks Gates would have had, at the very least, a phone book shoved into his gut in the privacy of a police interrogation room, just like cops did back in the days. I think Gates got off light and Crowley showed incredible restraint. Sgt. Crowley would have been blown away if Gates were white, as yo moma comments are a favorite of blacks. That, and calling each other nigger.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: The letter is still in the files section, at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/files/TMO%20--%20the%20Odd%20Side/, for those without bionic memories. Come on, Rick. Surely most people's first memory is going to a picnic with their father and coming home with their mother or something similiar?
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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi University of Management: Homosexuality and Dick Cheney
Here is a link to a very good article on homosexuality in the military and it has also a picture of Dick Cheney. Dick looks really cute and sensuous. http://tinyurl.com/nq5n2m
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi University of Management: Homosexuality and Dick Cheney
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance no_re...@... wrote: Here is a link to a very good article on homosexuality in the military Oh, man, how refreshing. And how embarrassing that we're not there yet in the U.S.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary on Meet the Press
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of do.rflex Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:41 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary on Meet the Press --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote: Hillary: The president is the president, and the president is responsible for setting policy. We have a great relationship. I see him usually several times a week, at least one on one,'' she said. I am the chief advisor on foreign policy, but the president makes the decisions At the end of the day, it is the president who has to set and articulate policy... But I know very well that a team that works together is going to do a better job for America. [do.rkflex wrote:] Why aren't you willing to do the same? Raunchy isn't secretary of state, do.rk. She doesn't work in the White House with the foreign policy team. I know that must come as a surprise to you... [Rick wrote:] Yeah. It doesn't sound like Hillary considers Obama a stuffed shirt. Were you under the impression, Rick, that if one supports a candidate, one is required to agree with that candidate's views 100 percent forever after, whether they win or not, with no deviations? Or is it just women who support a female candidate whom you expect to march in lockstep like that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberat...@... wrote: I think the intent behind Earl's letter was not so much to state that Mahesh was some sort of vibe-sucker, but instead his practices--for what ever reason-resulted in imbalanced awakenings of the kundalini shakti. In fact, it is believed that one sure way to induce an imbalanced arising is to have then meditate on formulas for the acquisition of siddhis. This basically blocks the nervous system from attaining unity, but one can get glimpses and have experiences which are flashy, but tend to cycle rather than remain stable. I don't remember thoroughly what the letter said. I do remember what you're talking about though, regarding imbalanced growth and 'glimpses' of unity rather than the stabilization of it. However, I do remember well enough to recall that there was some mention of Maharishi being able to take energy from others. Some of the original letter went so far out in left field that I started to disregard it. However, Earl's letter did succeed in confirming some suspicions that I already had that MMY and the TMO don't exactly have this entire cycle of birth and death mapped out quite as well as they have most people believing. I could go on for quite a while about things I know for fact, but if I do, that will only create too much fuel for follow on discussions that would last for weeks. : oh but please do : seekliberation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jul 27, 2009, at 11:47 AM, seekliberation wrote: I could go on for quite a while about things I know for fact, but if I do, that will only create too much fuel for follow on discussions that would last for weeks. You should go ahead and share what you will. If there's a lot of discussion, that could be a good thing. At least it'll be out in the open and if necessary, some healing can begin. Vaj is anxious to dig up as much dirt as possible on the TMO and MMY. He doesn't care whether it's true or not, so you can feel free to make stuff up, like he does, if you don't want to say anything about what you know for fact. Somehow I never quite get the sense that healing is what he's really after, though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gates caller never mentioned race
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: This is getting even more interesting. Apparently the woman who made the initial 911 call never mentioned race and according to the news story linked to below, tapes of the call, once released will confirm this. According to the NY Times this afternoon: July 28, 2009 Police Release 911 Call in Gates Case By ABBY GOODNOUGH CAMBRIDGE, Mass. The woman who called 911 to report a possible breaking and entering at the home of Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. told the dispatcher that she had no idea if the two men she saw were breaking in, and said that, in fact, they might live there The caller, Lucia Whalen, told the dispatcher she was calling on behalf of an older woman who lived on the street and had seen the men who turned out to be Professor Gates and his cab driver forcing their way into the home. Police officials said the woman had just moved into the neighborhood. Ms. Whalen works on the block. They kind of had to barge in and they broke the screen door and they finally got in, Ms. Whalen said on the recording, adding that she had also seen two suitcases on the porch. She later added, I don't know if they live there and just had a hard time with their key. At one point, the dispatcher asked if she thought the men were breaking into the house. I don't know, Ms. Whalen said, because I have no idea. The dispatcher asked Ms. Whalen if the two men were black, white or Hispanic. There were two larger men, she said. One looked kind of Hispanic, but I'm not really sure. As for the second man, she said, I didn't see what he looked like at all, according to the tape. Ms. Whalen, who was calling on her cell phone from in front of Professor Gates's house, stayed on the scene until the police arrived. A report filed by the arresting officer, Sgt. James M. Crowley, said she told him she had seen what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of the home. ...On Monday, Ms. Whalen's lawyer said she never mentioned race to Sergeant Crowley. She didn't speak to Sergeant Crowley at the scene except to say, `I'm the one who called,' the lawyer, Wendy J. Murphy, said. And he said, `Wait right there,' and walked into the house. She never used the word black and never said the word `backpacks' to anyone. The Cambridge police did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the inconsistency http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/us/28gates.html?ref=us http://tinyurl.com/lpzqya If Crowley lied in his police report, that makes things even *more* interesting. BTW, Gates *very* strongly denies that he ever made the yo' mama remark that Crowley attributed to him.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where does our energy go now?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:44 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: Vaj is anxious to dig up as much dirt as possible on the TMO and MMY. He doesn't care whether it's true or not, so you can feel free to make stuff up, like he does, if you don't want to say anything about what you know for fact. Somehow I never quite get the sense that healing is what he's really after, though. Suddenly Vaj has new information from the very gurus in Boulder, CO where Kaplan got his information. Except Kaplan said in his letter that he spoke with many saints in India. Yes, I can see Vaj is champing at the bit to dig up filth about the TMO. Except that I thought this had already been addressed when Kaplan's letter got posted to FFL. Vaj wants to heal. Himself. By raking the TMO and TM over the coals once again, maybe, perhaps, he'll finally be healed, he feels. Unlikely.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: snip I think when I've only heard one commentator ask why didn't the neighbor know that was Gates? I guess this says a lot about our isolated society that the neighbor didn't know who lives across the street or nearby. And some of that might have been Gates fault for not knowing his neighbors himself. I heard/read a lot of commentators ask why the caller didn't know it was Gates. But that was shortly after the story broke. Anybody who's been paying attention to the story as it developed knows by this time that the caller wasn't a neighbor but someone who worked in the area, so it's unlikely she would have known Gates lived in the house. It's amazing how many questions are resolved when you pay attention.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: snip The laws and procedure are taught in police academy but the how to's are taught in less public venues. One how to is in getting someone who's wasting your time and ticking you off to make a fatal mistake. Getting Gates out of the house was the best way to handle this malefactor. Just let him take his rants outside then arrest him for creating a public disturbance. Standard police procedure to settle a score or speed up resolution of a problem. But by this time, the problem had already been resolved. It's abuse of authority to arrest somebody to settle a score when no crime has been committed. snip Obama's no fool. He sized up what had gone on. Unlikely Gates lives in a rundown lean to in a rough neighborhood. That's right, he doesn't. He lives two blocks from Harvard Square, in the very heart of the Harvard academic community (on Ware Street). I am convinced, as is my sheriff friend, that had this been a white male (Irish even better) Crowley would have been a lot more accommodating, perhaps even asking for backup to get someone to explain to Gates why this was the police doing everything possible to protect /his/ property. Actually Crowley *did* ask for backup, from the Harvard police (Crowley's the Cambridge police). The Harvard police are very tight with and trusted by the Harvard community (professors and administration, not necessarily students) and were precisely the folks to call to calm Gates down. But apparently they didn't arrive until Crowley had arrested Gates, so they weren't able to play that role. (They *did* arrange for extra security until Gates could get his door fixed.) It's not a case of Crowley acting illegally, it's a case of Crowley acting differently than he would have with a white. I'm agnostic on that; can't rule it out, but I don't think there's any evidence for it thus far. On the other hand, if the person had been white, he wouldn't have acted as Gates did; he obviously wouldn't have accused Crowley of racism, which was what seems to have stung Crowley the most. (Crowley teaches a course for police recruits on how to avoid racial profiling.) So in that sense, Crowley acted differently-- but because what he was *reacting* to was different than it would have been with a white man.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip You see the same levels of self-important paranoia in TBs of other stripes as well. Raunchy and Judy are *still* trying to claim that someone suggesting that they are so angry that they are in danger of bursting into flames (the well-known phenomenon of spontaneous human combustion) is a death threat. Barry's hallucinating again. And that wasn't the death threat in any case, as Barry knows. The death threat was the comment about two dumb cunts who don't deserve to live. Judy says *with a straight face* that the cop she accuses of entrapment I made it clear that I wasn't talking about entrapment in the legal sense. lured the black professor out onto his porch *so that* he could arrest him. Cuckoo. Oops, looks like Barry hasn't been following the Gates controversy at all. Most likely, he hasn't even read the exchanges here. Easy enough to determine the extent of Barry's familiarity with the details of the incident: Barry, why *did* Crowley tell Gates to come out onto the porch, if not so he could arrest him? What other reason could there possibly have been? I predict Barry will either decline to answer, or will give a *wrong* answer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gates caller never mentioned race
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: This is getting even more interesting. Apparently the woman who made the initial 911 call never mentioned race and according to the news story linked to below, tapes of the call, once released will confirm this. According to the NY Times this afternoon: July 28, 2009 Police Release 911 Call in Gates Case By ABBY GOODNOUGH CAMBRIDGE, Mass. The woman who called 911 to report a possible breaking and entering at the home of Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. told the dispatcher that she had no idea if the two men she saw were breaking in, and said that, in fact, they might live there The caller, Lucia Whalen, told the dispatcher she was calling on behalf of an older woman who lived on the street and had seen the men who turned out to be Professor Gates and his cab driver forcing their way into the home. Police officials said the woman had just moved into the neighborhood. Ms. Whalen works on the block. They kind of had to barge in and they broke the screen door and they finally got in, Ms. Whalen said on the recording, adding that she had also seen two suitcases on the porch. She later added, I don't know if they live there and just had a hard time with their key. At one point, the dispatcher asked if she thought the men were breaking into the house. I don't know, Ms. Whalen said, because I have no idea. The dispatcher asked Ms. Whalen if the two men were black, white or Hispanic. There were two larger men, she said. One looked kind of Hispanic, but I'm not really sure. As for the second man, she said, I didn't see what he looked like at all, according to the tape. Ms. Whalen, who was calling on her cell phone from in front of Professor Gates's house, stayed on the scene until the police arrived. A report filed by the arresting officer, Sgt. James M. Crowley, said she told him she had seen what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of the home. ...On Monday, Ms. Whalen's lawyer said she never mentioned race to Sergeant Crowley. She didn't speak to Sergeant Crowley at the scene except to say, `I'm the one who called,' the lawyer, Wendy J. Murphy, said. And he said, `Wait right there,' and walked into the house. She never used the word black and never said the word `backpacks' to anyone. The Cambridge police did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the inconsistency http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/us/28gates.html?ref=us http://tinyurl.com/lpzqya If Crowley lied in his police report, that makes things even *more* interesting. If by lying are you referring to the fact that he wrote that Whalen told him it was two black guys, Judy? If so, that's hardly lying; it's just getting the information garbled in terms of when he learned what. And, if anything, learning the truth -- that Whalen didn't tell him the race of the two suspects -- certainly LESSENS the case against Crowley. So, as is the case here on FFL when you are quick on the draw to accuse people of lying so, too, is it inappropriate here (and, like I pointed out, has no bearing on the case and, if anything, if true, would actually have made Crowley look not only worse but have a greater chance of being guilty of racial profiling). BTW, Gates *very* strongly denies that he ever made the yo' mama remark that Crowley attributed to him. To borrow a term popularized by Judy Stein, I think Gates is lying. And if his behavior outside the home is any indication (witnessed by impartial third parties and the black police officer), it gels with someone making a comment like that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: snip And that wasn't the death threat in any case, as Barry knows. The death threat was the comment about two dumb cunts who don't deserve to live. Correction: dumb angry cunts too stupid to live.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: snip The laws and procedure are taught in police academy but the how to's are taught in less public venues. One how to is in getting someone who's wasting your time and ticking you off to make a fatal mistake. Getting Gates out of the house was the best way to handle this malefactor. Just let him take his rants outside then arrest him for creating a public disturbance. Standard police procedure to settle a score or speed up resolution of a problem. But by this time, the problem had already been resolved. It's abuse of authority to arrest somebody to settle a score when no crime has been committed. Not in this case it isn't. And it's not even acting stupidly, at least according to the President of the United States who has himself backtracked on that term. snip Obama's no fool. He sized up what had gone on. Unlikely Gates lives in a rundown lean to in a rough neighborhood. That's right, he doesn't. He lives two blocks from Harvard Square, in the very heart of the Harvard academic community (on Ware Street). I am convinced, as is my sheriff friend, that had this been a white male (Irish even better) Crowley would have been a lot more accommodating, perhaps even asking for backup to get someone to explain to Gates why this was the police doing everything possible to protect /his/ property. Actually Crowley *did* ask for backup, from the Harvard police (Crowley's the Cambridge police). The Harvard police are very tight with and trusted by the Harvard community (professors and administration, not necessarily students) and were precisely the folks to call to calm Gates down. But apparently they didn't arrive until Crowley had arrested Gates, so they weren't able to play that role. (They *did* arrange for extra security until Gates could get his door fixed.) It's not a case of Crowley acting illegally, it's a case of Crowley acting differently than he would have with a white. I'm agnostic on that; can't rule it out, but I don't think there's any evidence for it thus far. On the other hand, if the person had been white, he wouldn't have acted as Gates did; he obviously wouldn't have accused Crowley of racism, which was what seems to have stung Crowley the most. (Crowley teaches a course for police recruits on how to avoid racial profiling.) So in that sense, Crowley acted differently-- but because what he was *reacting* to was different than it would have been with a white man. You really should see the show Cops. You'll see a lot of white people doing exactly the kind of thing Gates did and you'll see the cops -- who know they are on film -- act with A LOT less restraint than Gates did. And it's in almost every episode where you have disorderly people bad-mouthing the cops and being non-cooperative. Their threshold is a lot lower than Crowley's was. Gates is an elitist bully who tried to pull class rank on Crowley. Indeed, he is an armchair activist who probably got down on his hands and knees and thanked Jesus for this wonderful opportunity to be in the trenches so to speak. It's the equivalent of writing a racy book and getting banned in Boston back in the '50s. Everyone should be so lucky when they spend all their time just intellectualizing about racism. Now, Gates pushed things so that he got arrested and -- oh, happy day! -- got to even spend time in jail. Gates got this wonderful opportunity to tell Whitey where to shove it, not unlike the words he used when applying to get into Harvard. Gates is a racist who is on record as using racist language in his career so it is no surprise that he acted the way he did AND used the yo mama comment. It's par for the course for this racist demagogue...not unlike the not very reverend Jeremiah Wright another friend of the president.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gates caller never mentioned race
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: This is getting even more interesting. Apparently the woman who made the initial 911 call never mentioned race and according to the news story linked to below, tapes of the call, once released will confirm this. According to the NY Times this afternoon: July 28, 2009 Police Release 911 Call in Gates Case By ABBY GOODNOUGH CAMBRIDGE, Mass. The woman who called 911 to report a possible breaking and entering at the home of Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. told the dispatcher that she had no idea if the two men she saw were breaking in, and said that, in fact, they might live there The caller, Lucia Whalen, told the dispatcher she was calling on behalf of an older woman who lived on the street and had seen the men who turned out to be Professor Gates and his cab driver forcing their way into the home. Police officials said the woman had just moved into the neighborhood. Ms. Whalen works on the block. They kind of had to barge in and they broke the screen door and they finally got in, Ms. Whalen said on the recording, adding that she had also seen two suitcases on the porch. She later added, I don't know if they live there and just had a hard time with their key. At one point, the dispatcher asked if she thought the men were breaking into the house. I don't know, Ms. Whalen said, because I have no idea. The dispatcher asked Ms. Whalen if the two men were black, white or Hispanic. There were two larger men, she said. One looked kind of Hispanic, but I'm not really sure. As for the second man, she said, I didn't see what he looked like at all, according to the tape. Ms. Whalen, who was calling on her cell phone from in front of Professor Gates's house, stayed on the scene until the police arrived. A report filed by the arresting officer, Sgt. James M. Crowley, said she told him she had seen what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of the home. ...On Monday, Ms. Whalen's lawyer said she never mentioned race to Sergeant Crowley. She didn't speak to Sergeant Crowley at the scene except to say, `I'm the one who called,' the lawyer, Wendy J. Murphy, said. And he said, `Wait right there,' and walked into the house. She never used the word black and never said the word `backpacks' to anyone. The Cambridge police did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the inconsistency http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/28/us/28gates.html?ref=us http://tinyurl.com/lpzqya If Crowley lied in his police report, that makes things even *more* interesting. If by lying are you referring to the fact that he wrote that Whalen told him it was two black guys, Judy? No. Please read the above again, see if you can figure out what I *was* talking about. You never read Crowley's report either, did you? Allow me to quote the relevant section: When I arrived at Ware Street I radioed ECC and asked that they have the caller meet me at the front door to the residence. I was told that the caller was already outside. As I was getting this information, I climbed the porch stairs toward the front door. As I reached the door, a female voice called out to me. I turned and looked in the direction of the voice and observed a white female, later identified as Lucia Whalen. Whalen, who was standing on the sidewalk in front of the residence, held a wireless telephone in her hand and told me tht it was she who called. She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of Ware Street. She told me that her suspicions were aroused when she observed one of the men wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry. Since I was the only police officer on location and had my back to the front door as I spoke with her, I asked that she wait for other responding officers while I investigated further. Now go back and read what I quoted from the Times and see if you can figure out what I meant by lying.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: snip The laws and procedure are taught in police academy but the how to's are taught in less public venues. One how to is in getting someone who's wasting your time and ticking you off to make a fatal mistake. Getting Gates out of the house was the best way to handle this malefactor. Just let him take his rants outside then arrest him for creating a public disturbance. Standard police procedure to settle a score or speed up resolution of a problem. But by this time, the problem had already been resolved. It's abuse of authority to arrest somebody to settle a score when no crime has been committed. Not in this case it isn't. It's an abuse of authority in *all* cases. It shouldn't happen to a young white punk any more than to a middle- aged black college professor.
[FairfieldLife] MUM Enrollment etc
Due to the above engaging title, I am #1 on both Google and Bing when MUM Enrollment etc. is the search term.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Smeathe's Plantation nr Ogbourne Down Gallop, Wiltshire. Reported 24th July.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Updated Monday 27th July 2009 http://www.starnationgallery.com/new.html AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/Smeathe/groundshots.html DIAGRAMS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/Smeathe/diagrams.html FIELD REPORTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/Smeathe/fieldreports.html COMMENTS http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/Smeathe/comments.html ARTICLES http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/Smeathe/articles.html THE FARMER HAS STATED THAT NO ONE HAS ACCESS TO THIS CROP CIRCLE ON HIS LAND. snip, Doesn't it seem odd that with this many circles that someone isn't seriously trying to figure out their meaning and, who is responsible?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM Enrollment etc
On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:00 PM, scienceofabundance wrote: Due to the above engaging title, I am #1 on both Google and Bing when MUM Enrollment etc. is the search term. Everybody's gotta be #1 at something! sci, you've found your calling. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelson lafrancis nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: Still trying to figure out sending in stories. Subject: Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots THIS IS WHY GOD GAVE THEM CAMELS!! In case you hadn't heard Thisbrand spanking new Airbus 340-600, the largestpassenger airplane ever built, sits just outside its hangar in Toulouse, Francewithout a single hour of airtime. Enter the Arab flight crew of Abu DhabiAircraft Technologies(ADAT) to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground, suchasengine run-ups prior to delivery toEtihad Airways in Abu Dhabi. The ADAT crew taxied the A340-600 to the run-up area. Then they took all four engines to takeoff power with avirtually empty aircraft. Not having Read the run-upmanuals, they had no clue just how light an emptyA340-600 really is. The Takeoff Warning Horn was blaring away in the cockpitbecause they had All four engines at full power. The aircraft computers thought they were trying to take off,but it had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc...) Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuitbreaker on the Ground Proximity Sensor to silence the alarm. This fools the aircraft into thinking it is in the air. The computers automatically released all the brakes and sent the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no idea that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the brakes on. Not one member of the seven-man Arab crew was smart enough to throttle back the engines from their max power setting. The $200 million brand-new aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it. The extent of injuries to the crew is unknown due to the news blackout of the major media in Franceand elsewhere. Coverage of the story was deemed insulting to Muslim Arabs. Finally, the photos are starting to leak out. Airbus $200 million aircraft meets retaining wall and the wall wins This is why God gave them camels! so I lost all the pics somehow tho they were in the page I was forwarding- don't know where they went.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots
nelson lafrancis wrote: Still trying to figure out sending in stories. *Subject:* Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots THIS IS WHY GOD GAVE THEM CAMELS!! Years ago I was chatting with a guy who trained pilots to fly the 747. He was training some Arab pilots one day and as they did the approach to land they ran away in fear from the controls and he had to jump in and bring the plane in for landing. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote: It's an abuse of authority in *all* cases. It shouldn't happen to a young white punk any more than to a middle- aged black college professor. However, as I've posted previously, we are laughed at in the UK and Europe because we fear the abuse of authority of our police and with good reason. We, the people with the Bill of Rights, the people who declare ourselves free and democratic, equal under the law, ever take our chances when in the presence of the lawman. It was bad for us before the 9/11 coup. It's definitely worse now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots
so I lost all the pics somehow tho they were in the page I was forwarding- don't know where they went. The pics came through okay in my email. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 8:33 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nelson lafrancis nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: Still trying to figure out sending in stories. Subject: Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots THIS IS WHY GOD GAVE THEM CAMELS!! In case you hadn't heard Thisbrand spanking new Airbus 340-600, the largestpassenger airplane ever built, sits just outside its hangar in Toulouse, Francewithout a single hour of airtime. Enter the Arab flight crew of Abu DhabiAircraft Technologies(ADAT) to conduct pre-delivery tests on the ground, suchasengine run-ups prior to delivery toEtihad Airways in Abu Dhabi. The ADAT crew taxied the A340-600 to the run-up area. Then they took all four engines to takeoff power with avirtually empty aircraft. Not having Read the run-upmanuals, they had no clue just how light an emptyA340-600 really is. The Takeoff Warning Horn was blaring away in the cockpitbecause they had All four engines at full power. The aircraft computers thought they were trying to take off,but it had not been configured properly (flaps/slats, etc...) Then one of the ADAT crew decided to pull the circuitbreaker on the Ground Proximity Sensor to silence the alarm. This fools the aircraft into thinking it is in the air. The computers automatically released all the brakes and sent the aircraft rocketing forward. The ADAT crew had no idea that this is a safety feature so that pilots can't land with the brakes on. Not one member of the seven-man Arab crew was smart enough to throttle back the engines from their max power setting. The $200 million brand-new aircraft crashed into a blast barrier, totaling it. The extent of injuries to the crew is unknown due to the news blackout of the major media in Franceand elsewhere. Coverage of the story was deemed insulting to Muslim Arabs. Finally, the photos are starting to leak out. Airbus $200 million aircraft meets retaining wall and the wall wins This is why God gave them camels! so I lost all the pics somehow tho they were in the page I was forwarding- don't know where they went. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Enrollment etc
The unified Field hymn Another haunting meditation hymn with a beautiful lesson: Bleeding hearts defiled by sin Meditation can make, make you clean; Contrite souls with guilt oppressed, Meditation can give, can give you rest. You that mourn your follies past, Precious hours and years, and years laid waste, Turn to meditation, oh turn and live, Meditation can still, can still forgive. Fainting souls in peril's hour, Yield not to, not to the tempter's power; On the risen life rely, Meditation now reigns, now reigns on high. JGD, Sung to the tune and harmonies of Natick is beautiful. Listen at: http://shapenote.net/497.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:00 PM, scienceofabundance wrote: Due to the above engaging title, I am #1 on both Google and Bing when MUM Enrollment etc. is the search term. Everybody's gotta be #1 at something! sci, you've found your calling. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Fw: Do Not Fly With Muslim Pilots
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool ffl...@... wrote: so I lost all the pics somehow tho they were in the page I was forwarding- don't know where they went. The pics came through okay in my email. Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma snip, So the pics came out in one place and not another? Is there some solution to this. Not growing up in the computer age, I seem to have a long learning curve. (TV was a novelty when I was in high school)
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Jul 27, 2009, at 7:00 PM, scienceofabundance wrote: Due to the above engaging title, I am #1 on both Google and Bing when MUM Enrollment etc. is the search term. Everybody's gotta be #1 at something! sci, you've found your calling. Sal Thanks, Sal. I never realized until you channeled the above message that I could use the nickname SCI. Coincidence or Divine Intent?? I think we all know the answer. And you being the channel for this new realization Coincidence or Divine Intent?? I think we all know the answer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: snip The laws and procedure are taught in police academy but the how to's are taught in less public venues. One how to is in getting someone who's wasting your time and ticking you off to make a fatal mistake. Getting Gates out of the house was the best way to handle this malefactor. Just let him take his rants outside then arrest him for creating a public disturbance. Standard police procedure to settle a score or speed up resolution of a problem. But by this time, the problem had already been resolved. It's abuse of authority to arrest somebody to settle a score when no crime has been committed. Not in this case it isn't. It's an abuse of authority in *all* cases. It shouldn't happen to a young white punk any more than to a middle- aged black college professor. Until you've rode with cops on the beat for, say, 2 or 3 midnight shifts, I suggest you hold off on giving that opinion, Judy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: snip The laws and procedure are taught in police academy but the how to's are taught in less public venues. One how to is in getting someone who's wasting your time and ticking you off to make a fatal mistake. Getting Gates out of the house was the best way to handle this malefactor. Just let him take his rants outside then arrest him for creating a public disturbance. Standard police procedure to settle a score or speed up resolution of a problem. But by this time, the problem had already been resolved. It's abuse of authority to arrest somebody to settle a score when no crime has been committed. Not in this case it isn't. It's an abuse of authority in *all* cases. It shouldn't happen to a young white punk any more than to a middle- aged black college professor. Until you've rode with cops on the beat for, say, 2 or 3 midnight shifts, I suggest you hold off on giving that opinion, Judy. No, I don't need to do that. It's ipso facto an abuse of authority.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Watch :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I merely perpetuated an exer- cise in pushing her buttons based on a comment that was MADE BY A WOMAN that the majority of radical feminists were homely. snip The MADE BY A WOMAN, woman that Barry refers to is an anti-feminist. Barry wants us to believe his grand plan to post pictures of feminists, is simply a Zen exercise in button pushing and not an attempt to discredit feminists. Rubbish. Rubbish indeed, especially since the WOMAN Barry cites never claimed the majority of radical feminists were homely. snip Barry is married to the idea that pushing buttons is a good thing, a virtuous pursuit, a technique for enlightenment he learned from his abusive asshole guru, Rama. Three things to note: First, Rama ultimately committed suicide, perhaps because he had a searing insight into what his compulsion to abuse his students said about him as a person and how fraudulent it had been for him to pose as a spiritual teacher when he was so desperately screwed up himself. Second, look what Rama's sadistic button- pushing has done for Barry, what kind of person *he* has become as a result of Rama tearing him down for his own good. And third: Barry emulates him everyday pretending he's doing it to help us not take ourselves so seriously. He has become so deranged from engaging in this odious technique, that he has completely masked, even from himself, the boiling rage that generates and motivates his daily attempts at button pushing. As was almost certainly the case with Rama as well, the notion of tearing people down for their own good is just a flimsy excuse to give vent to his anger and attack them without restraint. Now THAT'S what I call serious. Anger, his own that of others comforts him, like a sacrament, it feeds his GIGANTIC ego I disagree that Barry has a gigantic ego. I think his whole problem is that he has a tiny ego that's so fragile it's constantly in danger of collapsing completely. That's why almost everything he posts here has to do with defending it, either by exalting himself or denigrating others. Sick, sick, sick cookie.
[FairfieldLife] Can the Rain Gods be Embarassed by Nudity?
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE56M3G020090723
[FairfieldLife] crop circle artist
http://www.miqel.com/fractals_math_patterns/visual-math-other-patterns.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy Watch :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Judy I never lie Stein, at 10:35 this morning: I'm making a few posts this morning, then I'm going out of town until sometime Monday. At 14:55 this afternoon, she was still posting. Either morning lasts until nearly 3:00 pm in New Jersey or Ms. I Never Lie sometimes does. Or, there was a delay, and Judy was posting to kill time until we were able to leave. Fourteen compulsive gotcha posts so far today. And interestingly, her credibility and interest factor has become so low that even with this number of posts, only one person on the forum has bothered to reply to her. Barry's well on his way to another meltdown. How much credibility should we accord a person who claims Judy has no credibility or interest factor, who repeatedly insists he ignores Judy and urges others to do so, but then makes a post he titles Judy Watch? If I'm so boring, why on earth is he watching me so intently? Why is he counting my posts and counting the responses? Why is he examining the timestamps of my posts to see whether I stopped posting by the time I originally said I was leaving? Seems like he's actually quite fascinated by me, doesn't it? guffaw On the other hand, he got his count of responses all bolluxed up. Shemp responded, Bill Hicks responded, Mike Dixon responded, Bhairitu responded (sort of). And all my other posts were in response to either Barry, Vaj, or Sal, who are all committed to pretending to ignore me (just as Barry does in this post). Oh, yeah, and one to azgray, who is only here sporadically. I guarantee you he'll respond if he reads that post. (Unless he reads this post first, in which case he won't respond to the other one, in order to prove me wrong.) Finally, Barry's made 20 posts so far this week. Exactly *two* of them have not been gotcha posts. And that was Shemp, because Judy had fallen for a troll of *his*. I don't think it was a troll. If it was, he sure didn't get the response he had hoped for; I agreed with almost everything he said. He's subsequently tried to gin up some disagreement, but I'm happy to play along because it's something I wanted to discuss anyway. Three strikes, Barry, in one single post. Yer out already, and this was only your second post of the week. It's all downhill from here.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM enrollment etc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: snip Sorry mate, that's not my experience. I've seen gays agressively getting on to hetero fellows on the tube, expecially young boys, to the effect that the police had to be summoned. For the record, there is NO evidence that gay men are any more likely to molest or be attracted to younger men/boys than straight men are to molest or be attracted to younger women/girls: http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/facts_molestation.html http://tinyurl.com/lxar
[FairfieldLife] Re: Translations For Our Times
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: What they say. What they mean. -- I write a blog. -- I rant on the Internet. Barry: -- I really have those silly bloggers nailed. -- Maybe if I actually read blogs, I'd have some idea of what I'm talking about.
[FairfieldLife] Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan
[Brahmananda Saraswati Foundation] 27 July 2009 Recently Dr. Girish Varma kindly organized for a video team to visit the Brahmasthan and other Vedic Pandit campuses. In the short video included below, we've sought to give you a sense of Pandit life and a first-hand glimpse into the systematic training that Maharishi has put in place through which Vedic life is being restored throughout India and through which peace will come to all mankind. We very much hope you enjoy watching it. [Watch Video] http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1012762476msgid=1570943act=\ WVPEc=387898admin=0destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vedicpandits.org%2Fne\ wsletter%2F2009_07_27.html The last few weeks have seen a powerful charge in the momentum to support at least 8,000 Maharishi Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan of India. I credit this surge to the wonderful idea from many of the dear Pandit supporters to create a simple, automatic, monthly donation program as the main focus of our fund raising efforts. This program is now in place http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1012762476msgid=1570943act=\ WVPEc=387898admin=0destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vedicpandits.org%2Fpa\ rticipate.html and it is a heartening thrill every day to witness the response from donors large and small, literally from Montenegro to Malaysia to Maine. Many of you are donating $240 or $120 per month, enough to take care of one Pandit for the whole year (or half that amount); some even committed to 11, 7 or 5 Pandits; and some are donating $10 or $20 per month all as they comfortably can and all so important and deeply appreciated. Now, Arlene and I wanted to share the wonderful news with you that, as the twin jet engines propelling us to this 8,000 goal, Drs. Howard and Alice Settle have arranged for their Foundation to directly support 1,000 Pandits. Recognizing that this project is the key to securing world peace and affluence, they are also leading a major effort to inspire six other donors to follow their lead, each supporting 1,000 Pandits. The 8th donor or, more accurately, the 1st donor and, I believe, the core of this momentum is the collective donations of all our dear Movement family from around the world. We have told the Settles that collectively Maharishi's global family group will reach $240,000 per month and so be at least 1/8 of what is required. Our commonality of purpose is at the heart of this most noble and practical endeavor and with true admiration Arlene and I thank everyone who is participating. Please know that your donation is vital for the Pandits and also, very importantly, is inspiring others, including the largest donors. With your leadership and support, the reality of 8,000 Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan of India will soon be blessing the world. With very best wishes, Jai Guru Dev Raja Harris, Arlene and Lauren Kaplan P.S. If this newsletter was forwarded to you by a friend, you can sign up to have future issues sent directly to you by clicking here http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1012762476msgid=1570943act=\ WVPEc=387898admin=0destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vedicpandits.org%2Fsu\ bscribe.html . If you would like to support the Vedic Pandits at the Brahmasthan you can make an on-line donation here http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1012762476msgid=1570943act=\ WVPEc=387898admin=0destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vedicpandits.org%2Fpa\ rticipate.html . You can learn more about the scientific basis of creating world peace, by visiting Technology of Peace http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=1012762476msgid=1570943act=\ WVPEc=387898admin=0destination=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vedicpandits.org%2Fte\ chnology-of-peace.html on our website.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Racial profiling and the Gates case
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: snip The laws and procedure are taught in police academy but the how to's are taught in less public venues. One how to is in getting someone who's wasting your time and ticking you off to make a fatal mistake. Getting Gates out of the house was the best way to handle this malefactor. Just let him take his rants outside then arrest him for creating a public disturbance. Standard police procedure to settle a score or speed up resolution of a problem. But by this time, the problem had already been resolved. It's abuse of authority to arrest somebody to settle a score when no crime has been committed. Not in this case it isn't. It's an abuse of authority in *all* cases. It shouldn't happen to a young white punk any more than to a middle- aged black college professor. Until you've rode with cops on the beat for, say, 2 or 3 midnight shifts, I suggest you hold off on giving that opinion, Judy. No, I don't need to do that. It's ipso facto an abuse of authority. Quite correct. And jaywalking is ipso facto a violation of the pedestrian/road code. Work to rule, however, is not the planet most of us live on.
