[FairfieldLife] The "I win!" Game

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> Shremp is bitter toward me because much of what he says is total 
> horse shit and I successfully point it out as such.

John,

With all due respect (and I do respect you), that's
Judy talking. 

NO ONE CARES when you "point out Shemp's bullshit,"
or more accurately, claim to. Except you.

Just as NO ONE CARES when Judy and Raunchydog and 
Willytex (and Shemp, of course) claim to have pointed 
out mine, or yours, or anyone else's. That's just an 
ego game. And your participation in it only allows 
them to keep playing the game. 

Yeah, I know it "feels good" to call Shemp on his
bullshit, but that's just a part of the ego game,
the lure or bait. His bullshit is a symptom, not 
the disease. 

The disease is being angry and unhappy -- being
trapped in angry and unhappy mindstates and want-
ing desperately to draw others into those same
mindstates. By arguing with him, or even by
"pointing out his bullshit" and then declaring
"victory," you get drawn into his mindstates. Same 
with Judy, same with Willytex, same with Raunchydog. 
Their posts are -- bottom line -- an exercise in 
trying to suck people into the same low mindstates 
that they live in.

Acting as both prosecutor AND judge AND jury -- 
declaring "I won" in a debate that has no judge,
no jury, and often no substance *except* as an
exercise in ego and jealousy -- is IMO a fool's
game.

I really get it. You CARE about these issues, and
care deeply. You hate to see people misled by 
obvious bullshit. But I suspect there is a way 
of pointing out the bullshit without getting 
sucked into the world and mindset of the bull-
shitter.

Falling for -- and replicating -- Judy's "I win"
game of assigning to herself the roles of pros-
ecutor AND judge AND jury is IMO not that way.
All you need to do is what you do best -- post
an article or source that you feel reveals that
what Shemp posts really IS bullshit. Then stop
there, without interacting with him as person-
ality, or trying to demonize him as personality.
Above all, stop before "declaring victory." That
is their mindset personified.

What you did in the sentence above is IMO a bit
of Judy-think and Raunchy-think and Willy-think
and Shemp-think. THEY are the ones who keep going
on and on and on about how they *affect* other
posters here. THEY make up stories in their heads
as to what that "effect" is and how seriously they
have devastated or embarrassed or touched the lives
of those they hate. THEY make up stories about what
the supposed motives or feelings of their victims are.

Very little of it is true, and my suspicion is that 
the mythical sane person reading Fairfield Life 
(there must be at least one, right? :-)) knows it. 
They're just blustering about how strongly they 
affect other posters (their own self importance)
because inside they know their own powerlessness 
and impotence, and can't live with that. 

They're just ranting on a tiny forum on the Internet 
to an average of 50 readers a week, *most of whom
do not even read their posts*. They're going to 
all this trouble to think of themselves as big fish 
in a small pond, and to declare themselves "winners" 
in battles and arguments that in many cases DON'T 
EVEN EXIST. Judy and Shemp and Willytex and 
Raunchydog habitually declare themselves the "winners" 
in arguments THAT THE OTHER PERSON IS 
NOT EVEN READING OR PARTICIPATING IN.

That's crazy shit. 

You're better than that. You've got a mind and a 
sense of compassion and responsibility, and can 
focus on issues larger than your own self image.
They can't. 

Leave the " hates me
because I'm so powerful and reveal his "
ego-posturing to these four. They have no choice.
That's all they've got going for them. 

You're better than that. You don't have to play
their game, or even get sucked into it.

This all just my opinion, and presented because
I like you, not because I'm ragging on you. Try
to take it *as* opinion and just another way of
seeing the situation, and not as a personal attack
and an excuse to play the "My ego's dick is longer
than your ego's dick" game. That's what they would 
do. That's what they *have* to do, because their
angry, unhappy mindstates rule them and they have
no choice. You do.

[FairfieldLife] ‘Longest Surviving[U.S. Senator]says...’

[Robert]

Robert Byrd Wants Health Care Bill Named After Kennedy  
Wed Aug 26, 2009 at 08:04:37 AM PDT

We asked for it, now Robert Byrd wants it.

Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), the only senator to have served longer than 
the late Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.), mourned his friend Wednesday, saying 
his “heart and soul weeps.”

Byrd said he hoped healthcare reform legislation in the Senate would be 
renamed in memoriam of Kennedy.

“I had hoped and prayed that this day would never come,” Byrd said in a 
statement. “My heart and soul weeps at the lost of my best friend in the 
Senate, my beloved friend, Ted Kennedy.”

Byrd’s wistful statement focused on the work accomplished with Kennedy 
during decades together in the Senate, and called on the healthcare bill before 
Congress to be renamed in honor of Kennedy.

“In his honor and as a tribute to his commitment to his ideals, let us 
stop the shouting and name calling and have a civilized debate on health care 
reform which I hope, when legislation has been signed into law, will bear his 
name for his commitment to insuring the health of every American,” Byrd said. 

Amen.



  

[FairfieldLife] Iowa "protects" its pigs

[bob_brigante]

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/22/us/0822FAIR_7.html

[FairfieldLife] FEMA ignores Iowa hicks

[bob_brigante]

"So far, Iowa has been promised $3.1 billion in federal assistance for
housing, infrastructure and business recovery, but only $689 million has
been distributed, and local officials estimate its damage need at
something more like $8 billion to $10 billion. The state suffered $1.6
billion in infrastructure damage alone.
In Cedar Rapids, city officials estimate that they need close to $6
billion.

The slow pace of the money flow for long-term recovery has held up
crucial decisions about what is going to be rebuilt in the city of
120,000 people. Whole communities are waiting to hear about buyouts and
demolitions, new levees
  and flood plains. Many are in limbo, and
the frustration level is rising. Some residents are still living in FEMA
mobile homes
 . Even City Hall
remains displaced
 .

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/28/us/28cedar.html


http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/08/28/us/0828CEDAR_3.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's liberal darling Cindy Sheehan protests war-monger Obama

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> A lot of liberals feel Obama has sold out to Wall Street interests.

[snip]

Of course he has.

He has morphed into a younger, hipper version of George Bush.

Joke's on John Manning.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's liberal darling Cindy Sheehan protests war-monger Obama

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > A lot of liberals feel Obama has sold out to Wall Street interests.
> > 
> > shempmcgurk wrote:
> > > John Manning's personal hero (and probably the hero of several other 
> > > liberals on this forum) is now protesting Obama, hard-core.
> > 
> 
> 
> Shremp is lying [again]. I admired Sheehan at the very first for speaking out 
> for her son and speaking out against the Iraq war. But right away after that 
> she became used and manipulated by others and didn't seem to have a clue 
> about what she really wanted to accomplish or how to realistically go about 
> it. For a long time now, in my view, ever since she protested at Bush's ranch 
> in Crawford, she's done a lot of stupid things.
> 
> Shremp is bitter toward me because much of what he says is total horse shit 
> and I successfully point it out as such.


You're a veritable Sherlock Holmes.

[FairfieldLife] [Double-Speak]='Right-Wing-Nuts'

[Robert]

‘Right-Wing[Double-Speak]Wing-Nuts?’

This ‘wing-nut thing is a cover for their [Nazi-Racist-Intentions]
Ya' know, wing-nuts, really sound so 'Harmless', 
But, harmless is not their unquenchable taste of destruction...
For what this really is...
I mean, let’s call a ‘Spade a Spade!’
These are:
‘A   Racist Drunken  Fascist Mob of Supreme Spiritual Blindness'

Since, We've seen this movie, played out in the 1930-40’s...
It’s so easy to spot their [Idiotic Revengeful] ways...
And, how they scapegoat the ‘Least Among Us’...

The most [Insidious & Obnoxious] tactic of these soulless bastards...
~They will use the ‘Holy Name of Jesus’...with all kinds of  vulgarisms...
With their-[Revengeful Intentions] for their Lying Cause...
`These are the: ‘Last Remnants of the [Third Reich]...

 `Their Days are Numbered’...and they know it!

  So,[Be- Aware].. of the [Double-Speak]...
~Whenever and Wherever you hear it's ugly call...

Remember we saw these same tactics in Berlin,  1933...

~Roberto De Madison, Verona, Wisconsin.




  

[FairfieldLife] 'When People Give Up Their Power...'

[Robert]

~And, Then Corporations Come in to fill the Vacuum!'
Then, what happens:
'The People Become Slaves to Corporate Interests...
Since Corporations are 'Entities without Souls'
Then the people become brainwashed to become soulless, fearful consumers of 
more brainwashing... in a way...
And, funny thing, they don't even know, their controlled by the soulless corp 
entity...
In every way possible, by the Soul-Less Corporate Empires...
~Roberto De Madison, Verona, Wisconsin


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin

[dhamiltony2k5]

>
> Oh yes, absolutely.
> 
> The science of spirituality has become so clear.
> 
> The future happiness or misery of a great proportion of the human race is at 
> stake – and if we make a wrong choice, ourselves and our posterity must be 
> wretched.  A wrong choice!  There can be but one choice consistent with the 
> character of a people possessing the least degree of reason.  And that is to 
> separate – to separate from that people, those non-meditators, who from a 
> total dissolution of virtue among them must be our enemies – an event which I 
> devoutly pray may soon take place; and let it be as soon as may be.   
> 
> We are in the midst of a revolution the most complete, unexpected and 
> remarkable of any in the history of nations.
> 
> As once said by a patriot of an earlier time in America,
> "The eyes of all are upon us, as we play our part posterity will bless or 
> curse us."
> 
> And to this noble end let all meditators come now, pledge their lives, their 
> fortunes, and their sacred honor.
> 
> With fidelity and courage let us be together, let us rally one last time to 
> meditate, together that we may now know an age of peace and safety for all 
> beings of all the world in this life.  Om shanti.  Om shanti.   
> 
> Jai Guru Dev,
> -Doug in FF
> 

Absolutely, these are the times that try meditators' souls.  The summer 
meditator and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the 
service of the movement; but thee that meditates now, deserves the love and 
thanks of man and woman.

> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
> >
> > Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:12:39 -0500
> > Subject: Message to Invincible America from Raja John Hagelin
> > From: Invincible America 
> > 
> > 
> > "The July 2009 Invincible America Assembly was perfect in every way."
> > - IA Course Participant
> > 
> > It's hard to argue with perfection.
> > Our Super Radiance numbers averaged more than 2,000 every day.
> > 
> > What happened nationwide?
> > 
> > No hurricanes - No hurricanes or tropical storms penetrated U.S. borders.
> > Crime Rate Plummets-On July 20, the Washington Post reported, 
> > "Violent crime has plummeted in the Washington area and in major 
> > cities across the country, a trend criminologists describe as 
> > baffling and unexpected."
> > 
> > And what happened here?
> > 
> > Great experiences - #1 experiences in the Golden Domes have been 
> > deeper and richer than ever.
> > Maharishi Vedic Pandit performance - 2,000 of us attended a live 
> > performance of Maha Rudra Abhishek in the Golden Dome on Guru Purnima.
> > More new Sidhas - More than 60 new Yogic Flyers graduated from CIC.
> > Advanced training - More than 200 Governors attended Governor 
> > Refresher Course and Workshop.
> > Great weather! - July weather mildest on record ever for Iowa.
> > 
> > Now it's August. Many visitors have left. Our Super Radiance numbers 
> > are in a lull until the MUM students return and the next group of 
> > Maharishi Vedic Pandits arrive.
> > 
> > We urgently need all local Sidhas to attend morning and evening programs.
> > 
> > Let's give our President a burst of support from the heartland - 
> > coherence in collective consciousness so that the country continues 
> > moving forward harmoniously.
> > 
> > Our group has accomplished wonders. Let's keep the momentum of 
> > positivity growing in America. Thank you for being here in wonderful 
> > Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City.
> > 
> > JAI GURU DEV
> > 
> > Copyright 2009, Maharishi Vedic Education Development Corporation. 
> > Publication or reproduction of this communication in any form is 
> > prohibited without permission.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[Bhairitu]

You heard wrong.  If you had bothered to download the bill you would 
find that that section deals with paying doctors by electronic transfer.

Mike Dixon wrote:
> Seems I heard that HR 3200 also would allow the feds debit your bank 
> accounts. "The lord giveth and the lord taketh away.
>
> --- On Thu, 8/27/09, WillyTex  wrote:
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[nelsonriddle2001]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Seems I heard that HR 3200 also would allow the feds debit your bank 
> accounts. "The lord giveth and the lord taketh away.
> 
> --- On Thu, 8/27/09, WillyTex  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: WillyTex 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next 
> available cattle stall
snip,
  And the fed taketh away?
   Either way, did they plan on some people not having bank accounts?
I don't use mine much and, wouldn't mind trying doing without.

[FairfieldLife] ~[*Star of David Technique*]~Universally Applicable for SAN-YAMAh+

[Robert]

When with months, or years, or many years of experience,The adventures with 
'Sanyama' become more of 'An impulse of Thought'...Or an 'Impulse of 
Feeling'...And allowing it, observing it, 'As it spontaneously dissolves 
into...Into the Transcendent...
So, at this point of experience, it would be an advanced 
experienced...Described in the 'Dead Sea Scrolls'[circa 74 AD.]
Begin to imagine the impulse of thought, in Sanyama...To be 'Like a Point of 
Light'.. Just like a bright point of light, in the sky at night...Just like 
that.See it like a 'Bright Star in a Clear Night Sky...
This can also be used in any Prayer...for example...If you wish to send a 
prayer, to you Mother..You may think of her...At that subtlest level, and then 
bring in a high spiritual vibration, like Jesus,Maharishi, Guru Dev...whatever, 
flash of insight, you get, that has emotional/spiritual meaning to you..bring 
this into the process, which we know as 'Sanyama!'
'Jai Guru Devam'
 [Sri Devam Moksha Ananda So Hum]




  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[It's just a ride]

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:
>
>
> Seems I heard that HR 3200 also would allow the feds debit your bank
> accounts. "The lord giveth and the lord taketh away.
>

This is of course Insurance Company/Republican scare talking points.
The IRS doesn't even debit your bank account even if they discovered
they overpaid you in a direct deposit of your income tax refund.  Been
there.

I know the concept of logic is foreign to FFL, but could you think of
a reason just why your bank accounts would be debited?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[Mike Dixon]

Seems I heard that HR 3200 also would allow the feds debit your bank accounts. 
"The lord giveth and the lord taketh away.

--- On Thu, 8/27/09, WillyTex  wrote:


From: WillyTex 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next 
available cattle stall
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 4:58 PM


  



Judy wrote:
> If Potter's whistle-blowing is new *to you*, 
> it's because you haven't been paying attention...
> 
It's news to Barry, but both of you forgot to 
blow the whistle on the the Dem health care plan 
which will force the IRS to divulge taxpayer 
identity, which will include your filing status, 
your modified adjusted gross income, and the 
number of dependents you have. 

John, Barry, and Judy failed to provide this 
information. Apparently they don't want people 
to know about this, so they didn't blow the 
whistle on the Dem plan.

But any information as is prescribed by 
regulation, will be provided to the Health Czar 
and a rationing panel, to be used to determine 
who qualifies for the government plan.

Maybe Judy and Barry don't care if their tax
status and medical history are divulged, but to 
me, that's a lot more important than blowing 
the whistle on private insurance plans, since 
the Dem plan may be the new group plan for 
almost everyone.

















  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 5 Stages of Fascism

[nelsonriddle2001]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
>
> Vaj wrote:
> > Worried about the gun nuts...
> >
> Well, I always thought the 'Brown-shirts'
> were the ones wanting to take AWAY the
> weapons owned by the people. In order to 
> do that in the U.S.A., you'd have to
> repeal the Second Amendment.
> 
> The last thing the Gestapo would want is 
> for the people to have a well regulated 
> and armed militia. So, if you're wanting 
> to take away my civil rights, then that's 
> probably illegal in the U.S.A.
>
  I believe the first and second amenndment are both under attack.
   

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL's liberal darling Cindy Sheehan protests war-monger Obama

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> A lot of liberals feel Obama has sold out to Wall Street interests.
> 
> shempmcgurk wrote:
> > John Manning's personal hero (and probably the hero of several other 
> > liberals on this forum) is now protesting Obama, hard-core.
> 


Shremp is lying [again]. I admired Sheehan at the very first for speaking out 
for her son and speaking out against the Iraq war. But right away after that 
she became used and manipulated by others and didn't seem to have a clue about 
what she really wanted to accomplish or how to realistically go about it. For a 
long time now, in my view, ever since she protested at Bush's ranch in 
Crawford, she's done a lot of stupid things.

Shremp is bitter toward me because much of what he says is total horse shit and 
I successfully point it out as such.

[snip]

Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL's liberal darling Cindy Sheehan protests war-monger Obama

[Bhairitu]

A lot of liberals feel Obama has sold out to Wall Street interests.

shempmcgurk wrote:
> John Manning's personal hero (and probably the hero of several other liberals 
> on this forum) is now protesting Obama, hard-core.
>
> Remember that Obama -- probably in order to appeal to Middle America in order 
> to win votes by showing that he wasn't a raving left-winger -- during the 
> presidential campaign said he would be concentrating on the war in 
> Afghanistan.
>
> Obama's war...
>
> -
>
> Sheehan returns to rebuke Obama
> Aug 27 
>
> After spending weeks dogging George W. Bush's presidential vacations, anti-...
>
> After spending weeks dogging George W. Bush's presidential vacations, 
> anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan is now trying to make life uncomfortable for 
> President Barack Obama. 
> Sheehan used to pitch a peace camp near Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, 
> becoming a symbol of the anti-war movement after her son Casey died in action 
> in Iraq. 
>
> On Thursday, she and a band of anti-war protesters turned up outside the 
> media center used by journalists covering Obama's vacation on the well-heeled 
> east coast resort island of Martha's Vineyard. 
>
> "The reason I am here is because ... even though the facade has changed in 
> Washington DC, the policies are still the same," Sheehan told a handful of 
> journalists, against a backdrop of her "Camp Casey" banner. 
>
> She told US peace activists to wake up and protest Obama's escalation of the 
> war in Afghanistan, and complained that despite the president's anti-war 
> stance, US troops remained in Iraq. 
>
> "We have to realize, it is not the president who is power, it is not the 
> party that is in power it is the system that stays the same, no matter who is 
> in charge." 
>
> "We are here to make the wars unpopular again," she said. 
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] No flu vaccine for you!

[bob_brigante]

http://www.lvrj.com/news/55332592.html

"The evidence shows, he said, that as a group seniors need the vaccine
less than younger age groups.

"It appears that older people have a pre-existing immunity to the H1N1
virus," he said.

Americans up to 24 years of age, CDC statistics reveal, are about 20
times more likely to contract the virus than people older than 65.

People ranging in age from 25 to 49 are five times more likely to be
burdened by the virus than seniors. And men and women in the 50 to 64
age bracket have a three times greater chance of catching the virus than
those older than 65.

"We're not saying they (seniors) shouldn't be vaccinated," Fiore said.
"But despite our best efforts and a huge effort by the federal
government, we won't have enough of the vaccine in the early going, and
we had to make some tough decisions about who gets it first."

CDC researchers have suggested that the immunity older adults appear to
enjoy was built up either because they either were infected with or
vaccinated against an older seasonal flu strain that closely resembled
H1N1.

[FairfieldLife] now europe gets 3000 sidhas for maharishi-effekt

[michael]

Developments in the field of education and health in Hamsa (Hungary)
by Global Good News staff writer

Global Country of World Peace   
22 August 2009

In Hamsa (Hungary) 3,000 students from a variety of high schools in one area 
will have the opportunity to learn the Transcendental Meditation Programmein 
August and September; they will form the first invincibilitygroup for Hamsa, 
with their influence spreading to the whole of Europe. 

A coherence-creating group has also been established by a mayor in Hamsa, who 
practises the Transcendental Meditation Sidhi Programme. 

Under the leadership of the Global Mother Divine Organization*, a Maharishi 
medical collegeis being established. 'This will become a beautiful seat of 
learning primarily for ladies,' Raja Konhaus, Rajaof Invincible Hungary for the 
Global Country of World Peace, explained recently. 'There will also be a 
separate campus for men . . . which will be the main seat of training doctors 
in Maharishi Ayur-Vedafor all of Europe.' 

The first Maharishi Ayur-Veda training course for doctors in Europe is 
currently underway with ten medical doctors taking part; by the end of the year 
when they finish their training, there will be Maharishi Ayur-Veda physicians 
practising in the country. 

The first Maharishi Ayur-Veda Clinicwas recently opened by the Directors of 
Health for the Global Country of World Peace in Hamsa. The distribution of 
Maharishi Ayur-Veda Productswill also be starting soon. 

There are two beautiful new websites that present all the latest videos and 
knowledge from MERU in Holland, and from America—www.maharishi.hu—and also a 
site with information about Consciousness-Based Education. 

Raja Konhaus said they are also focussed on having coherence-creating 
assemblies throughout the year to help support coherence for Hungary and the 
whole world. 

*The Global Mother Divine Organization, founded in December 2007, is the 
ladies' wing of the Global Country of World Peace. 

© Copyright 2009 Global Good News® 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Your ugly character speaks for itself, Shremp. No further comments are 
> necessary.




But yet you just couldn't help yourself and chimed in with YOUR comment.

Precious.




> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Please.
> > > > 
> > > > For every one person that voted for Obama because that drunken 
> > > > homicidal rape-enabling maniac supported him there are 10 who didn't 
> > > > vote for him for that reason.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What have YOU done for humasnity, asshole?
> > 
> > 
> > I tolerate the insane and inane ramblings of retired postal workers.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Ted Kennedy sponsored or lead the fight for the following legislative 
> > > acts: [This is a partial list]
> > > 
> > > * The Mental Health Parity Act of 1996
> > 
> > 
> > He should know about it.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > * State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP)
> > 
> > 
> > Oh that's quite an accomplish.  Yet more federal legislation about 
> > something they had no right to be in in the first place.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > * Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act of 2009 (Americorps)
> > 
> > 
> > Spending yet more of Other People's Money.  Great accomplishment.  Codify 
> > good works.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > * The Civil Rights Act of 1964
> > 
> > 
> > Passed by a majority of Republicans, the only reason it became law.  
> > Democrats such as Al Gore's father and Robert Byrd (current Senator and 
> > Teddy's best friend in the Senate) voted against it.
> > 
> > 
> > [snip the rest of the fat pig's legislative record of spending other 
> > people's money]
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Global warming & Yogic Flying

[bob_brigante]

http://snipurl.com/rg01y   
[www_expressbuzz_com]

[FairfieldLife] Ignorance of Science in America

[do.rflex]

Bamboozled About Energy
By ROBERT BRYCE

Two years ago, I interviewed Vaclav Smil, the prolific author and energy
thinker. I asked Smil, a distinguished professor at the University of
Manitoba, why Americans are so easily swayed by politicians and others
when it comes to energy matters. His response: scientific illiteracy and
innumeracy. "Without any physical, chemical, and biological
fundamentals, and with equally poor understanding of basic economic
forces, it is no wonder that people will believe anything," he told
me.

Finding evidence to support Smil's claim is all too easy. A 2007
study by Michigan State University determined that just 28 per cent of
American adults could be considered scientifically literate. In
February, the California Academy of Sciences released the findings of a
survey which found that most Americans couldn't pass a basic
scientific literacy test. The findings:

• Just 53 per cent of adults knew how long it takes for the Earth to
revolve around the Sun.

• Just 59 per cent knew that the earliest humans did not live at the
same time as dinosaurs.

• Only 47 per cent of adults could provide a rough estimate of the
percent of the Earth's surface that is covered with water. (The Academy
decided that the correct answer range for this question was anything
between 65 per cent and 75 per cent.)

• A mere 21 per cent were able to answer those three questions
correctly.

In July, the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press released the
results of a survey of 2,001 adult Americans regarding science issues.
Among the findings: just 46 per cent knew that electrons are smaller
than atoms.

Those findings shouldn't be surprising. Ignorance of the sciences
and the natural world has plagued the world for centuries.


This centuries-long suspicion of science, which continues today with
regular attacks on Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution, was
recognized by British scientist and novelist C.P. Snow in the 1950s when
he delivered a famous lecture called "The Two Cultures."


Snow argued that there was a growing disconnect between the culture of
the sciences and the culture of the humanities, and that bridging that
gap in understanding was critical to understanding and addressing the
world's problems. Snow placed "Literary intellectuals at one
pole – at the other scientists…Between the two a gulf of mutual
incomprehension." Snow then laid out a critical point about the
general public's lack of understanding of energy and thermodynamics.
As Snow put it:

"A good many times I have been present at gatherings of people who,
by the standards of the traditional culture, are thought highly educated
and who have with considerable gusto been expressing their incredulity
at the illiteracy of scientists. Once or twice I have been provoked and
have asked the company how many of them could describe the Second Law of
Thermodynamics
 . The
response was cold: it was also negative. Yet I was asking something
which is the scientific equivalent of: Have you read a work of
Shakespeare's?  "

Indeed, while most moderately cultured people will be familiar with the
Bard's A Comedy of Errors or The Merchant of Venice, the laws of
thermodynamics -- the rules that ruthlessly police the world of energy
-- are considered by most people to be the domain of nerds and wonks.
Thus, the first law of thermodynamics: energy is neither created nor
destroyed; and the second law: energy tends to become more random and
less available -- are relegated to the realm of too much information.
For most people, basic physics is seen as nerdy, beyond their ken, too
troublesome to learn.

This apathy – or perhaps it's antipathy -- towards science makes
it laughably easy for the public to be deceived. Alas, this apathy
toward science in America is matched – or perhaps even exceeded
– by the lack of interest in mathematics. Over the past few years,
the US has been inundated with depressing data about the state of our
collective math skills. A 2008 study published by the American
Mathematical Society put it bluntly: "it is deemed uncool within the
social context of USA middle and high schools to do mathematics." It
went on to explain that "Very few USA high schools teach the
advanced mathematical skills, such as writing rigorous essay-style
proofs, needed to excel." Another report issued in 2008, this one
from the Department of Education's National Mathematics Advisory
Panel, declared that math education in the U.S. "is broken and must
be fixed." The report found "that 27 per cent of eighth-graders
could not correctly shade 1/3 of a rectangle and 45 per cent could not
solve a word problem that required dividing fractions." The report
also found stunningly poor math skills among adults:

• 78 per cent of adults could not explain how to compute the
interest paid on a loan.

• 71 per cent couldn't calculate miles per gallon on a trip.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[do.rflex]

Your ugly character speaks for itself, Shremp. No further comments are 
necessary.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Please.
> > > 
> > > For every one person that voted for Obama because that drunken homicidal 
> > > rape-enabling maniac supported him there are 10 who didn't vote for him 
> > > for that reason.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > What have YOU done for humasnity, asshole?
> 
> 
> I tolerate the insane and inane ramblings of retired postal workers.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Ted Kennedy sponsored or lead the fight for the following legislative acts: 
> > [This is a partial list]
> > 
> > * The Mental Health Parity Act of 1996
> 
> 
> He should know about it.
> 
> 
> > 
> > * State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP)
> 
> 
> Oh that's quite an accomplish.  Yet more federal legislation about something 
> they had no right to be in in the first place.
> 
> 
> > 
> > * Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act of 2009 (Americorps)
> 
> 
> Spending yet more of Other People's Money.  Great accomplishment.  Codify 
> good works.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > * The Civil Rights Act of 1964
> 
> 
> Passed by a majority of Republicans, the only reason it became law.  
> Democrats such as Al Gore's father and Robert Byrd (current Senator and 
> Teddy's best friend in the Senate) voted against it.
> 
> 
> [snip the rest of the fat pig's legislative record of spending other people's 
> money]
>

[FairfieldLife] FFL's liberal darling Cindy Sheehan protests war-monger Obama

[shempmcgurk]

John Manning's personal hero (and probably the hero of several other liberals 
on this forum) is now protesting Obama, hard-core.

Remember that Obama -- probably in order to appeal to Middle America in order 
to win votes by showing that he wasn't a raving left-winger -- during the 
presidential campaign said he would be concentrating on the war in Afghanistan.

Obama's war...

-

Sheehan returns to rebuke Obama
Aug 27 

After spending weeks dogging George W. Bush's presidential vacations, anti-...

After spending weeks dogging George W. Bush's presidential vacations, anti-war 
protester Cindy Sheehan is now trying to make life uncomfortable for President 
Barack Obama. 
Sheehan used to pitch a peace camp near Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas, 
becoming a symbol of the anti-war movement after her son Casey died in action 
in Iraq. 

On Thursday, she and a band of anti-war protesters turned up outside the media 
center used by journalists covering Obama's vacation on the well-heeled east 
coast resort island of Martha's Vineyard. 

"The reason I am here is because ... even though the facade has changed in 
Washington DC, the policies are still the same," Sheehan told a handful of 
journalists, against a backdrop of her "Camp Casey" banner. 

She told US peace activists to wake up and protest Obama's escalation of the 
war in Afghanistan, and complained that despite the president's anti-war 
stance, US troops remained in Iraq. 

"We have to realize, it is not the president who is power, it is not the party 
that is in power it is the system that stays the same, no matter who is in 
charge." 

"We are here to make the wars unpopular again," she said. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driving tip Fairfield WARNING

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:


[snip]

> What 
> I don't get are people who seem to believe their "expression of freedom" 
> is NOT wearing a seatbelt while driving. 





If we lived in a society in which the government did NOT have a vested interest 
in people's safety and good health then, yes, I would agree with such people 
because it would be nobody's business whether someone wanted to act stupidly 
and harm themselves by not wearing seatbelts.  

However, we as a society have decided to have tax-payer funded programs to pay 
for the healthcare of much of the population and, as such, the government has 
an interest in ensuring that people don't necessarily harm themselves.  So 
under such a scenario I believe seatbelt laws are justified (and if you drive a 
motorcycle, especially, you should be forced to wear a helmet under penalty of 
law).







> 
> That said, around here cops don't ticket enough for talking on mobile 
> phone non-hands free. 

[snip]



I totally agree...for the same reasons stated above and the fact that people, 
such as myself, can't walk and chew gum at the same time, so to speak.

I've tried on a few occasions to use a cell phone while driving and it has NOT 
been a fruitful experience. One time I almost got into an accident.  Speaking 
for myself I simply cannot give the proper attention to driving if I am holding 
a cell phone and talking on it.  My rule when I drive is to have my cell phone 
OFF so I can't even be tempted to take calls.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[shempmcgurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > Please.
> > 
> > For every one person that voted for Obama because that drunken homicidal 
> > rape-enabling maniac supported him there are 10 who didn't vote for him for 
> > that reason.
> > 
> 
> 
> What have YOU done for humasnity, asshole?


I tolerate the insane and inane ramblings of retired postal workers.



> 
> Ted Kennedy sponsored or lead the fight for the following legislative acts: 
> [This is a partial list]
> 
> * The Mental Health Parity Act of 1996


He should know about it.


> 
> * State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP)


Oh that's quite an accomplish.  Yet more federal legislation about something 
they had no right to be in in the first place.


> 
> * Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act of 2009 (Americorps)


Spending yet more of Other People's Money.  Great accomplishment.  Codify good 
works.




> 
> * The Civil Rights Act of 1964


Passed by a majority of Republicans, the only reason it became law.  Democrats 
such as Al Gore's father and Robert Byrd (current Senator and Teddy's best 
friend in the Senate) voted against it.


[snip the rest of the fat pig's legislative record of spending other people's 
money]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New AARP Poll: 86 Percent Say Insurance Should be Available to All

[Bhairitu]

In the new dollar economy health care will be available to everyone for 
$1.  And that's also what you'll get paid an hour.  Welcome to third 
world America.  Enjoy!

shempmcgurk wrote:
> In a related poll, 90% of those surveyed agreed that peace on Earth should 
> also be available to everyone, too.
>
>
>   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Driving tip Fairfield WARNING

[Bhairitu]

The town I live in though probably a bit larger than Fairfield has a 
downtown with narrow streets.  One thing I've never seen anyone getting 
a ticket for is jaywalking.  I bet there is no law against it due to the 
narrow streets.  I have to chuckle as at least once I saw a cop car 
situated near intersections where upscale yuppies come down from a hill 
from their million dollar mansion and don't seem to notice there is a 
stop sign there and will often steal the right of way from another 
driver as if to say "I'm richer than you so I get the right-a-way 
always."  Easy ticket for the cops and I bet he wrote a few that day.  
Since those drivers have been more prone to stop.

One thing they also need to write up is bicyclists who run stop signs 
and ones that go down the bike lane the wrong way.  We have clearly 
marked bike lanes on one way streets and the idiots go mindlessly down 
the street the wrong way not thinking that a car emerging from a side 
street may not be looking for a bike coming the wrong way.   We see to 
have bike riders who believe they have special privileges.


They
Dick Mays wrote:
> From: Robert Kennedy 
>
> For many years, Fairfield police watch the street directly north of 
> the post office.  Some drivers heading east...turn to park on the 
> north side of the street.  Those spots are diagonal there, facing 
> west.  So such a move is technically a U-Turn.  And nets one a ticket.
>
> Same is true for someone pulling out of one of those diagonal spots. 
> If they pull out, backing across the center line, to be heading 
> eastbound (a dangerous move, anyway) they get a ticket.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Driving tip Fairfield WARNING

[Bhairitu]

Nah, it sounds like as with many towns and cities across the US where 
revenues are down the cops have been asked to generate some.  Rolling 
stops are not uncommon here in California to the extent that they have 
been called "California stops" even in other states but you probably 
won't get a ticked for one here.  And I don't think the cops around here 
would bother ticketing anyone who is putting on their seatbelt pulling 
out of a parking space because after all they are putting it on.  And 
they certainly wouldn't bother ticking anyone pulling into a spot who is 
taking it off at the same time because after all they are stopping. What 
I don't get are people who seem to believe their "expression of freedom" 
is NOT wearing a seatbelt while driving. 

That said, around here cops don't ticket enough for talking on mobile 
phone non-hands free.  Most people are now flaunting the law and 9 times 
out of 10 the person who is driving like a bozo in front of me is doing 
so because they are blathering with their phone to their ear.  God, what 
is so import that people have to be in touch all the time.  I seldom get 
calls on my mobile phone so don't bother with hands free and won't take 
a call unless I can pull over so the call can just go to voice mail and 
I'll get back when I can.  I've informed folks of this.

shempmcgurk wrote:
> Be careful of what, not being caught breaking the law?
>
> If we're going to have seatbelt laws, let's enforce them...and taking on or 
> off seatbelts while the car is in motion I have to assume is a quite 
> dangerous thing, like texting while driving.
>
> Good for the Fairfield cops...I hope they catch a whole mess of you scofflaw 
> Ru's who in their spaced out state don't follow the simple rules of seatbelt 
> use...
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>   
>>> From: "Dana Brekke" 
>>>
>>> I also heard that in that vicinity they're ticketing those who take 
>>> off their seatbelt as they're pulling into a parking space or 
>>> putting on their seatlelt as they're leaving a parking space. 
>>> Someone I know got a $92 ticket for this.  Be careful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 1:51 PM
>>> The past couple of mornings, the police have been actively 
>>> monitoring the corner of Broadway and Main street (in front of 
>>> Mohan's). Many people execute a rolling stop as they turn left onto 
>>> Main. They're being rewarded with a summons for this moving 
>>> violation. So, do come to a full stop at this and all other corners 
>>> sporting STOP signs. Tell your friends, save a buck ...
>>>   
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:04 PM, do.rflex wrote:
> 
> > It was, Kennedy aides said at the time, the Clintons' own allies who  
> > gave him the final push. The days surrounding the South Carolina  
> > primary Jan. 26 saw the contest become, for the first time, racially  
> > charged. Kennedy blamed Clinton's side, and blamed President Bill  
> > Clinton himself. The two men spoke and did little to repair the  
> > breach.
> 
> Oh, dear...guess Teddy was hallucinating too.
> 
> Sal
>


The two Hillaryzoid fem freaks won't like this.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> Please.
> 
> For every one person that voted for Obama because that drunken homicidal 
> rape-enabling maniac supported him there are 10 who didn't vote for him for 
> that reason.
> 


What have YOU done for humasnity, asshole?

Ted Kennedy sponsored or lead the fight for the following legislative acts: 
[This is a partial list]

* The Mental Health Parity Act of 1996

* State Children's Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP)

* Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act of 2009 (Americorps)

* The Civil Rights Act of 1964

* The Voting Rights Act of 1965

* Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993

* Fair Housing Act of 1968

* Handicapped Children's Protection Act of 1986 (overturning a SCOTUS decision)

* Ryan White Care Act of 1990 (AIDS care)

* Americans with Disability Act of '90

* Civil Rights Act of 1991

* Minority Health & Health Disparities Research & Education Act of 2000

* National & Community Service Trust Act of 1993 (Americorps)

* Mammography Quality Standards Act of 1990

* Military Child Care Act of 1989

* The WARN Act of 1988 (60 days notice prior to plant closings)

* Employment Opportunities for Disabled Americans Act of 1986

* Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986 (vetoed by Reagan)

* Job Training Partnership Act of 1980

* Refugee Act of 1980

* Civil Rights of Institutionalized Persons Act of 1980

* Individuals with Disabilities in Education Act - 1975

* Title IX of Education Amendments of '72 (bans sex discrimination by schools 
getting Fed $)

* Establishment of Women, Infants & Childrens ("WIC") Nutrition Program at USDA

* Low Income Heating Energy Assistance Act of 1970

* Older American Community Service Employment Act of 1970

* Occupational Safety & Health Administration Act of 1970

* The Voting Rights Act amendments of 1970

* The Bilingual Education Act of 1968

* The Economic Opportunity Act of 1964 (War on Poverty: Head Start, Job Corps)


= = Apart from what he did legislatively, he deeply effected the lives of 
others for the better.

I don't know if you know a columnist by the name of Cal Thomas. He's a hard 
core right winger. Here's what 'he' had to say about Ted Kennedy:

"Over the years, I came to see Mr. Kennedy not as a symbol, but as a fellow 
human being who did not get up each morning seeking ways to harm the country. I 
know of things he did for the poor and homeless on his own time and in his own 
way without a press release or a desire for public approval. I know of other 
hurts and concerns he shared with the very few he could trust about which I 
would never speak.

Because he came from wealth, he felt a responsibility to give back. We can 
argue whether government or individuals do that best, but we can't say Ted 
Kennedy was inconsistent. He would compromise to advance his beliefs, not 
dilute them."

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/27/a-surprising-friendship/


- - And here's David Broder, another VERY conservative beltway type:

"When writing about Kennedy earlier, at the onset of his fatal illness, I 
talked about the many personal kindnesses that endeared him to people. In 
response to that column, I heard so many more examples from colleagues and 
residents of Massachusetts.

I retell one of them. A man in Malden said that he wrote Kennedy's office 
saying that he had been trying to buy two Red Sox tickets so he could take his 
father, who had lost his legs to diabetes and now was dying, to a game. Because 
of the illness, he needed seats down low, close to the field, and had not been 
able to get them. The next week, he had the tickets."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/26/AR2009082601516.html

[snip to end]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driving tip Fairfield WARNING

[Dick Mays]

From: Robert Kennedy 

For many years, Fairfield police watch the street directly north of 
the post office.  Some drivers heading east...turn to park on the 
north side of the street.  Those spots are diagonal there, facing 
west.  So such a move is technically a U-Turn.  And nets one a ticket.


Same is true for someone pulling out of one of those diagonal spots. 
If they pull out, backing across the center line, to be heading 
eastbound (a dangerous move, anyway) they get a ticket.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 5 Stages of Fascism

[WillyTex]

Vaj wrote:
> Worried about the gun nuts...
>
Well, I always thought the 'Brown-shirts'
were the ones wanting to take AWAY the
weapons owned by the people. In order to 
do that in the U.S.A., you'd have to
repeal the Second Amendment.

The last thing the Gestapo would want is 
for the people to have a well regulated 
and armed militia. So, if you're wanting 
to take away my civil rights, then that's 
probably illegal in the U.S.A.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[Sal Sunshine]

On Aug 27, 2009, at 1:04 PM, do.rflex wrote:

It was, Kennedy aides said at the time, the Clintons' own allies who  
gave him the final push. The days surrounding the South Carolina  
primary Jan. 26 saw the contest become, for the first time, racially  
charged. Kennedy blamed Clinton's side, and blamed President Bill  
Clinton himself. The two men spoke and did little to repair the  
breach.


Oh, dear...guess Teddy was hallucinating too.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Driving tip Fairfield WARNING

[shempmcgurk]

Be careful of what, not being caught breaking the law?

If we're going to have seatbelt laws, let's enforce them...and taking on or off 
seatbelts while the car is in motion I have to assume is a quite dangerous 
thing, like texting while driving.

Good for the Fairfield cops...I hope they catch a whole mess of you scofflaw 
Ru's who in their spaced out state don't follow the simple rules of seatbelt 
use...



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays  wrote:
>
> >From: "Dana Brekke" 
> >
> >I also heard that in that vicinity they're ticketing those who take 
> >off their seatbelt as they're pulling into a parking space or 
> >putting on their seatlelt as they're leaving a parking space. 
> >Someone I know got a $92 ticket for this.  Be careful.
> >
> >
> >
> >Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 1:51 PM
> >The past couple of mornings, the police have been actively 
> >monitoring the corner of Broadway and Main street (in front of 
> >Mohan's). Many people execute a rolling stop as they turn left onto 
> >Main. They're being rewarded with a summons for this moving 
> >violation. So, do come to a full stop at this and all other corners 
> >sporting STOP signs. Tell your friends, save a buck ...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[shempmcgurk]

Please.

For every one person that voted for Obama because that drunken homicidal 
rape-enabling maniac supported him there are 10 who didn't vote for him for 
that reason.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> Kennedy's endorsement may have won Obama
> the nomination...
> 
> But it wasn't until the
> last minute, in late January 2008, that
> Kennedy decided to take sides at all -
> throwing himself into a hard-fought primary
> between two of his friends, Obama and then-Sen.
> Hillary Clinton.
> 
> 
> Kennedy legacy shapes Obama path
> By:  Ben Smith and  Jonathan Martin
> August 27, 2009 04:49 AM EST
> 
> Through two years of wearying campaigning, defeats and victories, the
> cool, disciplined Sen. Barack Obama
>   rarely was
> overcome by emotion. Once was on the eve of the election, when his
> grandmother died.
> 
> The other time, a close aide recalled, was when Sen. Ted Kennedy
>   endorsed him.
> 
> Kennedy's endorsement may have won Obama the nomination. His legacy,
> health care legislation
>  , has already
> shaped Obama's presidency, and Obama will deliver a eulogy
>   at Kennedy's
> funeral Saturday. But it wasn't until the last minute, in late January
> 2008, that Kennedy decided to take sides at all - throwing himself into
> a hard-fought primary between two of his friends, Obama and then-Sen.
> Hillary Clinton.
> 
> When he did, it was without reservation. He addressed critics, declaring
> Obama ready to lead. And he invoked his family's legacy:
> 
> "The torch will be passed again to a new generation of Americans. The
> hope rises again. And the dream lives on," he said, as the future
> president sat on a tall stool on stage behind him at American University
> in Washington on Jan. 28, 2008.
> 
> "He was a monumental figure
>   in the history
> of the campaign," David Axelrod, Obama's senior adviser, told POLITICO,
> saying that the weekend of Kennedy's endorsement "transformed the
> campaign."
> 
> "It was like being shot from a cannon," Axelrod said.
> 
> The day of the endorsement was, Obama told a Kennedy adviser at the
> time, the greatest day of his life, according to Dan Balz and Haynes
> Johnson's account of the campaign.
> 
> Kennedy, whose age never diminished his outsized political standing
>   or his eye for
> up-and-coming talent, saw Obama dominate the 2004 Democratic National
> Convention in his hometown, Boston, and he may have seen a little of
> himself in the young celebrity senator.
> 
> "When [Obama] came to the Senate as a new young senator, he was in a
> certain way a little like Teddy was when he first came to the Senate.
> That is, that everybody already knew about him or thought they knew
> about him," longtime Kennedy adviser Bob Shrum told POLITICO. "So I
> don't think Kennedy was surprised at his eloquence, his intelligence,
> his grasp of issues. But it was kind of a habit with Teddy [to mentor
> promising young senators]. He spent time with him and got to know him
> well."
> 
> He also helped recruit Obama to his committee, the Health, Education,
> Labor and Pensions panel, Shrum said.
> 
> Their relationship was not, however, entirely smooth. Even before Obama
> was elected to the Senate, he chafed at the humility required of a
> newcomer, and sometimes it showed.
> 
> "We've got to call up not just Republicans, but we've got to call up Ted
> Kennedy and say, 'Ted, you're getting a little old now, and you've been
> a fighter for us before. I don't know what's happening now,'" Obama told
> a union audience in 2003 - in a video that appeared on Huffington Post
> in December 2007 as Kennedy was considering an endorsement. "Ted, get
> some spine and stand up to the Republicans."
> 
> Kennedy, who had encouraged Obama's campaign but hadn't endorsed him,
> shrugged off the slight after the young senator called to address the
> comments. Kennedy spoke occasionally to Obama during the campaign to
> offer advice - who to talk to, what to look for - but no endorsement.
> 
> And he watched the campaign for the next month, torn between his old
> friends, the Clintons
>  -9934-4047-8ffa-f0b9689b9b2a.html> , and the promise of Obama.
> 
> It was, Kennedy aides said at the time, the Clintons' own allies who
> gave him the final push. The days surrounding the South Carolina primary
> Jan. 26 saw the contest become, for the first time, racially charged.
> Kennedy blamed Clinton's side, and blamed President Bill Clinton
> himself. The two men spoke and did little to repair the breach.
> 
> Another Democratic consultant close to Kennedy's circle suggested that

[FairfieldLife] Re: New AARP Poll: 86 Percent Say Insurance Should be Available to All

[shempmcgurk]

In a related poll, 90% of those surveyed agreed that peace on Earth should also 
be available to everyone, too.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> New AARP Poll: 86 Percent Say Insurance Should be Available to All
> A new poll
>  are_Poll_FINAL_v2.pdf>  [pdf] from AARP, National Journal and Penn,
> Schoen & Berland shows strong support for universal health coverage--86
> percent, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of
> Republicans. Large majorities also reject paying more in either
> insurance premiums (74%) or taxes (64%) to expand access to care.
> That's not the most striking finding. Asked whether they would support
> or oppose "a new federal health insurance plan that individuals could
> purchase if they can't afford private plans offered to them" 79 percent
> supported it, including 89 percent of Democrats, 80 percent of
> Independents, and 61 percent of Republicans. As for the government's
> responsibility for health care, this is perhaps the most profound
> finding:
> 
> Independents are the key swing vote, and 73% of them believe that the
> government should be most financially responsible for making sure that
> Americans have access to affordable, quality care.
> 
> Furthermore, 4 out of 5 Independents support the creation of a new
> federal health insurance plan that individuals could purchase if they
> can't afford private plans offered to them ­ the essence of the
> so-called "public option." But with Congress deadlocked over these
> issues­ and 75% of Independents stating that any eventual health care
> legislation should be bipartisan ­there is clearly much hard work
> ahead if health reform is to happen this year, despite the fact that
> Americans still trust President Obama most to do the right thing on the
> issue.
> 
> This is one of the dangers of the continued discussion of
> "bipartisanship" in the debate coming out of the White House and
> Senate--it set up an expectation for bipartisanship where it can't
> exist, because the Republicans refuse to play. There's a glimmer of good
> news in that for Obama, though, in that trust that Americans give him in
> the issue, including 51 percent of Independents. It means that when
> Obama says that Republicans are refusing to participate, Americans are
> going to believe him. It just means that he's going to have to start
> setting that narrative soon if he really wants action on comprehensive
> healthcare reform before the end of the year, and particularly if
> Democrats are going to have to do it through reconciliation.
> 
> There's another critical communication problem for Obama and for
> Democrats, though, when it comes to what the "public option" is:
> 
> Very few (only 37%) are able to correctly define the term "public
> option," even when given only 3 options to choose from. (That's
> nearly the equivalent probability that one would expect if everyone were
> just guessing.)  And when asked to categorize supporters and opponents,
> Americans tend to expect a landscape similar to 1993 – when
> pharmaceutical and health insurance companies and lobbyists united in
> opposition to proposed reforms – rather than grasp the reality of
> 2009's process, which has garnered some support from such parties.
> 
> Speaking abou this finding last night at the release of the survey in
> Denver, the poll sponsors
>   discussed the problem
> of the label "public option" versus the huge support it receives when
> couched as "a new federal health insurance plan."
> 
> "These two words have become radioactive, they have been swift-boated,"
> said William Mann, senior vice president of Penn, Schoen & Berland
> Associates. "There is a real misunderstanding."
> 
> ...
> 
> "There is so much more educating that needs to be done across the board
> on various health care reform options," said Morie Smile, interim
> director of Colorado's AARP office. "Nobody seems to have a firm grasp
> on the vocabulary. It's either a sacred cow or a punching bag."
> 
> The concept is overwhelmingly popular, because the majority of people
> know the system is broken, know it needs to be fixed, and are concerned
> about their own health security:
> 
> 56% say that it is more important than ever that we address health care
> reform. When asked what they're most worried about when it comes to
> health care, respondents focus on rising costs, including insurance
> premium and prescription drug price hikes and the prospect of not being
> able to afford health insurance.
> 
> ...
> 
> Consistent with their reluctance to pay more in taxes or premiums, large
> majorities of Americans name everyday issues like premium costs and
> prescription drug costs as issues that worry them most. The degree of
> worry on these issues is pronounced, with over 40% of all Americans
> reporting that they are "very worried" about 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti Climate Legislation rallies organized by Oil-Industry Lobbyists

[shempmcgurk]

Two observations:

1) If these rallies actually get people out to protest that will be a function 
of peoples' genuine anger against climate legislation which promises to 
radically change the nature of America (something the majority doesn't want).  
And that's with oil being "relatively" cheap these days at about $70.00 a 
barrel.  Just wait until we're paying $4.00 at the pump...people will be paying 
the lobbyists listed below to organise rallies.

2) Much of everyone on the alarmist side is funded by another lobbyist group: 
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT who funds their silly research.  Who would you trust, 
government or private enterprise?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> Majority of `Energy Citizens' rallies organized by oil-industry
> lobbyists
> 
> Here's more evidence that the  "Energy Citizens" rallies
>  rgy-citizen-rallies/>  against climate legislation are anything but
> grassroots uprisings.  We already knew that the American Petroleum
> Institute was behind the whole idea
>  259149.html> .  Now it turns out that even the local organizers of
> individual rallies are oil-industry lobbyists.
> 
> Grist obtained a copy of API's list of coordinators for the 21
> planned rallies, and 15 of them are registered lobbyists, mostly for API
> or its state-level affiliates.
> 
> There have already been three "Energy Citizens" rallies—in
> Houston, Texas
>  as-just-a-glorified-company-picni/> , on Tuesday; in Roswell, N.M., on
> Thursday; and in Lima, Ohio, on Friday. Others are planned for cities
> around the U.S. during the rest of the August congressional recess.
> 
> Here's a list of the lobbyists organizing the "grassroots"
> rallies:
> 
> * Greensboro, N.C., rally organizer Bill Weatherspoon is a registered
> lobbyist
>  
> for API in North Carolina.
> *  Lima, Ohio, organizer Terry Fleming is a registered lobbyist
>   for the Ohio Petroleum Council.
> *  Atlanta, Ga., organizer Ric Cobb is a registerd lobbyist
>  L20050429&Type=BE>  for the Georgia Petroleum Council.
> *  Elkhart, Ind., organizer Maggie McShane lobbies on behalf of the
> Indiana Petroleum Council.
> *  Nashville, Tenn., organizer Mike Williams is a registered lobbyist
> for API.
> *  Bismarck, N.D., organizer Ron Ness is a former registered lobbyist
>  
> for the North Dakota Petroleum Council.
> *  Tampa, Fla., organizer David Mica registered lobbyist
>   for the
> Florida Petroleum Council.
> *  St. Louis, Mo., organizer Ryan Rowden is a registered lobbyist
>  ?LobID=L001580A&MyYear=2009>  for the Missouri Petroleum Council.
> *  Greenville, S.C., organizer Kay Clamp is a registered lobbyist for
> the South Carolina Petroleum Council.
> *  Lincoln, Neb., point of contact Chris Abboud is a registered
> lobbyist
>  &v=&list=A>  for the Agri-Business Association of Nebraska.
> *  Springfield, Ill., organizer Dave Sykuta is a registered lobbyist
>  ist/lobbyistlist.pdf>  [PDF] for API.
> *  Detroit, Mich., organizer John Griffin is a registered lobbyist
>  S%26last_match%3D50%26lobby_type%3DA%26lobby_name%3DGRIFFIN%26include%3D\
> active%261%3D1%26lobby_id%3D3761%26last_match%3D0>  for the Associated
> Petroleum Industries of Michigan.
> *  Richmond, Va., organizer Mike Ward is a registered lobbyist for
> API in Virginia.
> *  Philadelphia, Pa., organizer Rolf Hanson registered lobbyist
>  on.aspx?id=746&rp=2>  for API in Pennsylvania.
> *  Huron, S.D., organizer Tim Dougherty is a registered lobbyist
>  ch=Dougherty&Submit=GO&ddlYear=All+Years&psearchtype=OR> .
> 
> And in Farmington, N.M., rally organizer Wendi Schuur is the director of
> public and community affairs at Devon Energy
>  , an oil and gas company.
> 
> Perhaps "Energy Lobbyists" would be a more appropriate name for
> the movement?
> http://snipurl.com/rftml   [www_grist_org]
>

[FairfieldLife] Driving tip Fairfield WARNING

[Dick Mays]

From: "Dana Brekke" 

I also heard that in that vicinity they're ticketing those who take 
off their seatbelt as they're pulling into a parking space or 
putting on their seatlelt as they're leaving a parking space. 
Someone I know got a $92 ticket for this.  Be careful.




Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 1:51 PM
The past couple of mornings, the police have been actively 
monitoring the corner of Broadway and Main street (in front of 
Mohan's). Many people execute a rolling stop as they turn left onto 
Main. They're being rewarded with a summons for this moving 
violation. So, do come to a full stop at this and all other corners 
sporting STOP signs. Tell your friends, save a buck ...

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 5 Stages of Fascism

[shempmcgurk]

Hmmm.

I don't know what history books this guy is reading but one thing we know about 
the rise of fascism and its cousin communism is that the first thing these 
movements do is take away the citizenship's guns.

So the fact that people are brandishing arms is a good thing, not a bad thing.  
Any government that attempts to disarm its citizens is what we have to be on 
the lookout for.

(oh, and by the way, the last major home-grown militia that caused any 
considerable damage did so without the use of any guns...and he killed 
hundreds...Timothy McVeigh).


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> Worried about the gun nuts showing up at town meetings strappin' a  
> handgun or your neighbor who's suddenly started stock piling ammo and  
> has joined a right-wing militia? Worried about the grid lock between  
> the Left and the Right and the loss of their ability to communicate  
> and cooperate constructively?
> 
> You should be. These are all stages in the historical rise of  
> fascism, that can be seen in previous instances in history according  
> to historian Robert Paxton.
> 
> Are we there yet?  We're actually right near the "tipping point". It  
> turns out these folks showing up at town meeting, strappin' heat,  
> could just be the new Brown-shirts.
> 
> http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009083205/fascist-america-are-we- 
> there-yet
> 
> LINK
> 
> "Fascism is a system of political authority and social order intended  
> to reinforce the unity, energy, and purity of communities in which  
> liberal democracy stands accused of producing division and decline."
> 
> and
> 
> "a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with  
> community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory  
> cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of  
> committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective  
> collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties  
> and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal  
> restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."
> 
> (...)
> 
>  From proto-fascism to the tipping point
> 
> According to Paxton, fascism unfolds in five stages. The first two  
> are pretty solidly behind us -- and the third should be of particular  
> interest to progressives right now.
> In the first stage, a rural movement emerges to effect some kind of  
> nationalist renewal (what Roger Griffin calls "palingenesis" -- a  
> phoenix-like rebirth from the ashes). They come together to restore a  
> broken social order, always drawing on themes of unity, order, and  
> purity. Reason is rejected in favor of passionate emotion. The way  
> the organizing story is told varies from country to country; but it's  
> always rooted in the promise of restoring lost national pride by  
> resurrecting the culture's traditional myths and values, and purging  
> society of the toxic influence of the outsiders and intellectuals who  
> are blamed for their current misery.
> 
> Fascism only grows in the disturbed soil of a mature democracy in  
> crisis. Paxton suggests that the Ku Klux Klan, which formed in  
> reaction to post-Civil War Reconstruction, may in fact be the first  
> authentically fascist movement in modern times. Almost every major  
> country in Europe sprouted a proto-fascist movement in the wretched  
> years following WWI (when the Klan enjoyed a major resurgence here as  
> well) -- but most of them stalled either at this first stage, or the  
> next one.
> 
> As Rick Perlstein documented in his two books on Barry Goldwater and  
> Richard Nixon, modern American conservatism was built on these same  
> themes. From "Morning in America" to the Rapture-ready religious  
> right to the white nationalism promoted by the GOP through various  
> gradients of racist groups, it's easy to trace how American proto- 
> fascism offered redemption from the upheavals of the 1960s by  
> promising to restore the innocence of a traditional, white,  
> Christian, male-dominated America. This vision has been so thoroughly  
> embraced that the entire Republican party now openly defines itself  
> along these lines. At this late stage, it's blatantly racist, sexist,  
> repressed, exclusionary, and permanently addicted to the politics of  
> fear and rage. Worse: it doesn't have a moment's shame about any of  
> it. No apologies, to anyone. These same narrative threads have woven  
> their way through every fascist movement in history.
> In the second stage, fascist movements take root, turn into real  
> political parties, and seize their seat at the table of power.  
> Interestingly, in every case Paxton cites, the political base came  
> from the rural, less-educated parts of the country; and almost all of  
> them came to power very specifically by offering themselves as  
> informal goon squads organized to intimidate farmworkers on behalf of  
> the large landowners. The KKK dis

[FairfieldLife] Ted Kennedy's legacy shapes Obama's path

[do.rflex]

Kennedy's endorsement may have won Obama
the nomination...

But it wasn't until the
last minute, in late January 2008, that
Kennedy decided to take sides at all -
throwing himself into a hard-fought primary
between two of his friends, Obama and then-Sen.
Hillary Clinton.


Kennedy legacy shapes Obama path
By:  Ben Smith and  Jonathan Martin
August 27, 2009 04:49 AM EST

Through two years of wearying campaigning, defeats and victories, the
cool, disciplined Sen. Barack Obama
  rarely was
overcome by emotion. Once was on the eve of the election, when his
grandmother died.

The other time, a close aide recalled, was when Sen. Ted Kennedy
  endorsed him.

Kennedy's endorsement may have won Obama the nomination. His legacy,
health care legislation
 , has already
shaped Obama's presidency, and Obama will deliver a eulogy
  at Kennedy's
funeral Saturday. But it wasn't until the last minute, in late January
2008, that Kennedy decided to take sides at all - throwing himself into
a hard-fought primary between two of his friends, Obama and then-Sen.
Hillary Clinton.

When he did, it was without reservation. He addressed critics, declaring
Obama ready to lead. And he invoked his family's legacy:

"The torch will be passed again to a new generation of Americans. The
hope rises again. And the dream lives on," he said, as the future
president sat on a tall stool on stage behind him at American University
in Washington on Jan. 28, 2008.

"He was a monumental figure
  in the history
of the campaign," David Axelrod, Obama's senior adviser, told POLITICO,
saying that the weekend of Kennedy's endorsement "transformed the
campaign."

"It was like being shot from a cannon," Axelrod said.

The day of the endorsement was, Obama told a Kennedy adviser at the
time, the greatest day of his life, according to Dan Balz and Haynes
Johnson's account of the campaign.

Kennedy, whose age never diminished his outsized political standing
  or his eye for
up-and-coming talent, saw Obama dominate the 2004 Democratic National
Convention in his hometown, Boston, and he may have seen a little of
himself in the young celebrity senator.

"When [Obama] came to the Senate as a new young senator, he was in a
certain way a little like Teddy was when he first came to the Senate.
That is, that everybody already knew about him or thought they knew
about him," longtime Kennedy adviser Bob Shrum told POLITICO. "So I
don't think Kennedy was surprised at his eloquence, his intelligence,
his grasp of issues. But it was kind of a habit with Teddy [to mentor
promising young senators]. He spent time with him and got to know him
well."

He also helped recruit Obama to his committee, the Health, Education,
Labor and Pensions panel, Shrum said.

Their relationship was not, however, entirely smooth. Even before Obama
was elected to the Senate, he chafed at the humility required of a
newcomer, and sometimes it showed.

"We've got to call up not just Republicans, but we've got to call up Ted
Kennedy and say, 'Ted, you're getting a little old now, and you've been
a fighter for us before. I don't know what's happening now,'" Obama told
a union audience in 2003 - in a video that appeared on Huffington Post
in December 2007 as Kennedy was considering an endorsement. "Ted, get
some spine and stand up to the Republicans."

Kennedy, who had encouraged Obama's campaign but hadn't endorsed him,
shrugged off the slight after the young senator called to address the
comments. Kennedy spoke occasionally to Obama during the campaign to
offer advice - who to talk to, what to look for - but no endorsement.

And he watched the campaign for the next month, torn between his old
friends, the Clintons
 , and the promise of Obama.

It was, Kennedy aides said at the time, the Clintons' own allies who
gave him the final push. The days surrounding the South Carolina primary
Jan. 26 saw the contest become, for the first time, racially charged.
Kennedy blamed Clinton's side, and blamed President Bill Clinton
himself. The two men spoke and did little to repair the breach.

Another Democratic consultant close to Kennedy's circle suggested that
Kennedy's political judgment may have affected his timing as much as the
harsh words in South Carolina. Kennedy had intervened at crucial moments
in 2000 and 2004 to back his preferred candidates for the Democratic
nomination, and he knew the impact he could have in 2008. He timed his
announcement for the lead-up to a national primary - Super Tuesday -
where Obama was struggling to convince millions of voters who had barely
heard of

[FairfieldLife] New AARP Poll: 86 Percent Say Insurance Should be Available to All

[do.rflex]

New AARP Poll: 86 Percent Say Insurance Should be Available to All
A new poll
  [pdf] from AARP, National Journal and Penn,
Schoen & Berland shows strong support for universal health coverage--86
percent, including 93% of Democrats, 87% of Independents, and 78% of
Republicans. Large majorities also reject paying more in either
insurance premiums (74%) or taxes (64%) to expand access to care.
That's not the most striking finding. Asked whether they would support
or oppose "a new federal health insurance plan that individuals could
purchase if they can't afford private plans offered to them" 79 percent
supported it, including 89 percent of Democrats, 80 percent of
Independents, and 61 percent of Republicans. As for the government's
responsibility for health care, this is perhaps the most profound
finding:

Independents are the key swing vote, and 73% of them believe that the
government should be most financially responsible for making sure that
Americans have access to affordable, quality care.

Furthermore, 4 out of 5 Independents support the creation of a new
federal health insurance plan that individuals could purchase if they
can't afford private plans offered to them ­ the essence of the
so-called "public option." But with Congress deadlocked over these
issues­ and 75% of Independents stating that any eventual health care
legislation should be bipartisan ­there is clearly much hard work
ahead if health reform is to happen this year, despite the fact that
Americans still trust President Obama most to do the right thing on the
issue.

This is one of the dangers of the continued discussion of
"bipartisanship" in the debate coming out of the White House and
Senate--it set up an expectation for bipartisanship where it can't
exist, because the Republicans refuse to play. There's a glimmer of good
news in that for Obama, though, in that trust that Americans give him in
the issue, including 51 percent of Independents. It means that when
Obama says that Republicans are refusing to participate, Americans are
going to believe him. It just means that he's going to have to start
setting that narrative soon if he really wants action on comprehensive
healthcare reform before the end of the year, and particularly if
Democrats are going to have to do it through reconciliation.

There's another critical communication problem for Obama and for
Democrats, though, when it comes to what the "public option" is:

Very few (only 37%) are able to correctly define the term "public
option," even when given only 3 options to choose from. (That's
nearly the equivalent probability that one would expect if everyone were
just guessing.)  And when asked to categorize supporters and opponents,
Americans tend to expect a landscape similar to 1993 – when
pharmaceutical and health insurance companies and lobbyists united in
opposition to proposed reforms – rather than grasp the reality of
2009's process, which has garnered some support from such parties.

Speaking abou this finding last night at the release of the survey in
Denver, the poll sponsors
  discussed the problem
of the label "public option" versus the huge support it receives when
couched as "a new federal health insurance plan."

"These two words have become radioactive, they have been swift-boated,"
said William Mann, senior vice president of Penn, Schoen & Berland
Associates. "There is a real misunderstanding."

...

"There is so much more educating that needs to be done across the board
on various health care reform options," said Morie Smile, interim
director of Colorado's AARP office. "Nobody seems to have a firm grasp
on the vocabulary. It's either a sacred cow or a punching bag."

The concept is overwhelmingly popular, because the majority of people
know the system is broken, know it needs to be fixed, and are concerned
about their own health security:

56% say that it is more important than ever that we address health care
reform. When asked what they're most worried about when it comes to
health care, respondents focus on rising costs, including insurance
premium and prescription drug price hikes and the prospect of not being
able to afford health insurance.

...

Consistent with their reluctance to pay more in taxes or premiums, large
majorities of Americans name everyday issues like premium costs and
prescription drug costs as issues that worry them most. The degree of
worry on these issues is pronounced, with over 40% of all Americans
reporting that they are "very worried" about them. The daily issues
outrank other, major catastrophic events like going bankrupt. Medicare
coverage ranks lowest of the concerns, with people over and under 50
years old equally concerned.

This poll mirrors all of the others we've seen, including the recent
SurveyUSA poll

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[WillyTex]

Judy wrote:
> If Potter's whistle-blowing is new *to you*, 
> it's because you haven't been paying attention...
> 
It's news to Barry, but both of you forgot to 
blow the whistle on the the Dem health care plan 
which will force the IRS to divulge taxpayer 
identity, which will include your filing status, 
your modified adjusted gross income, and the 
number of dependents you have. 

John, Barry, and Judy failed to provide this 
information. Apparently they don't want people 
to know about this, so they didn't blow the 
whistle on the Dem plan.

But any information as is prescribed by 
regulation, will be provided to the Health Czar 
and a rationing panel, to be used to determine 
who qualifies for the government plan.

Maybe Judy and Barry don't care if their tax
status and medical history are divulged, but to 
me, that's a lot more important than blowing 
the whistle on private insurance plans, since 
the Dem plan may be the new group plan for 
almost everyone.

[FairfieldLife] Anti Climate Legislation rallies organized by Oil-Industry Lobbyists

[do.rflex]

Majority of `Energy Citizens' rallies organized by oil-industry
lobbyists

Here's more evidence that the  "Energy Citizens" rallies
  against climate legislation are anything but
grassroots uprisings.  We already knew that the American Petroleum
Institute was behind the whole idea
 .  Now it turns out that even the local organizers of
individual rallies are oil-industry lobbyists.

Grist obtained a copy of API's list of coordinators for the 21
planned rallies, and 15 of them are registered lobbyists, mostly for API
or its state-level affiliates.

There have already been three "Energy Citizens" rallies—in
Houston, Texas
 , on Tuesday; in Roswell, N.M., on
Thursday; and in Lima, Ohio, on Friday. Others are planned for cities
around the U.S. during the rest of the August congressional recess.

Here's a list of the lobbyists organizing the "grassroots"
rallies:

* Greensboro, N.C., rally organizer Bill Weatherspoon is a registered
lobbyist
 
for API in North Carolina.
*  Lima, Ohio, organizer Terry Fleming is a registered lobbyist
  for the Ohio Petroleum Council.
*  Atlanta, Ga., organizer Ric Cobb is a registerd lobbyist
  for the Georgia Petroleum Council.
*  Elkhart, Ind., organizer Maggie McShane lobbies on behalf of the
Indiana Petroleum Council.
*  Nashville, Tenn., organizer Mike Williams is a registered lobbyist
for API.
*  Bismarck, N.D., organizer Ron Ness is a former registered lobbyist
 
for the North Dakota Petroleum Council.
*  Tampa, Fla., organizer David Mica registered lobbyist
  for the
Florida Petroleum Council.
*  St. Louis, Mo., organizer Ryan Rowden is a registered lobbyist
  for the Missouri Petroleum Council.
*  Greenville, S.C., organizer Kay Clamp is a registered lobbyist for
the South Carolina Petroleum Council.
*  Lincoln, Neb., point of contact Chris Abboud is a registered
lobbyist
  for the Agri-Business Association of Nebraska.
*  Springfield, Ill., organizer Dave Sykuta is a registered lobbyist
  [PDF] for API.
*  Detroit, Mich., organizer John Griffin is a registered lobbyist
  for the Associated
Petroleum Industries of Michigan.
*  Richmond, Va., organizer Mike Ward is a registered lobbyist for
API in Virginia.
*  Philadelphia, Pa., organizer Rolf Hanson registered lobbyist
  for API in Pennsylvania.
*  Huron, S.D., organizer Tim Dougherty is a registered lobbyist
 .

And in Farmington, N.M., rally organizer Wendi Schuur is the director of
public and community affairs at Devon Energy
 , an oil and gas company.

Perhaps "Energy Lobbyists" would be a more appropriate name for
the movement?
http://snipurl.com/rftml   [www_grist_org]

[FairfieldLife] The 5 Stages of Fascism

[Vaj]

Worried about the gun nuts showing up at town meetings strappin' a  
handgun or your neighbor who's suddenly started stock piling ammo and  
has joined a right-wing militia? Worried about the grid lock between  
the Left and the Right and the loss of their ability to communicate  
and cooperate constructively?


You should be. These are all stages in the historical rise of  
fascism, that can be seen in previous instances in history according  
to historian Robert Paxton.


Are we there yet?  We're actually right near the "tipping point". It  
turns out these folks showing up at town meeting, strappin' heat,  
could just be the new Brown-shirts.


http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009083205/fascist-america-are-we- 
there-yet


LINK

"Fascism is a system of political authority and social order intended  
to reinforce the unity, energy, and purity of communities in which  
liberal democracy stands accused of producing division and decline."


and

"a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with  
community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory  
cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of  
committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective  
collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties  
and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal  
restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."


(...)

From proto-fascism to the tipping point

According to Paxton, fascism unfolds in five stages. The first two  
are pretty solidly behind us -- and the third should be of particular  
interest to progressives right now.
In the first stage, a rural movement emerges to effect some kind of  
nationalist renewal (what Roger Griffin calls "palingenesis" -- a  
phoenix-like rebirth from the ashes). They come together to restore a  
broken social order, always drawing on themes of unity, order, and  
purity. Reason is rejected in favor of passionate emotion. The way  
the organizing story is told varies from country to country; but it's  
always rooted in the promise of restoring lost national pride by  
resurrecting the culture's traditional myths and values, and purging  
society of the toxic influence of the outsiders and intellectuals who  
are blamed for their current misery.


Fascism only grows in the disturbed soil of a mature democracy in  
crisis. Paxton suggests that the Ku Klux Klan, which formed in  
reaction to post-Civil War Reconstruction, may in fact be the first  
authentically fascist movement in modern times. Almost every major  
country in Europe sprouted a proto-fascist movement in the wretched  
years following WWI (when the Klan enjoyed a major resurgence here as  
well) -- but most of them stalled either at this first stage, or the  
next one.


As Rick Perlstein documented in his two books on Barry Goldwater and  
Richard Nixon, modern American conservatism was built on these same  
themes. From "Morning in America" to the Rapture-ready religious  
right to the white nationalism promoted by the GOP through various  
gradients of racist groups, it's easy to trace how American proto- 
fascism offered redemption from the upheavals of the 1960s by  
promising to restore the innocence of a traditional, white,  
Christian, male-dominated America. This vision has been so thoroughly  
embraced that the entire Republican party now openly defines itself  
along these lines. At this late stage, it's blatantly racist, sexist,  
repressed, exclusionary, and permanently addicted to the politics of  
fear and rage. Worse: it doesn't have a moment's shame about any of  
it. No apologies, to anyone. These same narrative threads have woven  
their way through every fascist movement in history.
In the second stage, fascist movements take root, turn into real  
political parties, and seize their seat at the table of power.  
Interestingly, in every case Paxton cites, the political base came  
from the rural, less-educated parts of the country; and almost all of  
them came to power very specifically by offering themselves as  
informal goon squads organized to intimidate farmworkers on behalf of  
the large landowners. The KKK disenfranchised black sharecroppers and  
set itself up as the enforcement wing of Jim Crow. The Italian  
Squadristi and the German Brownshirts made their bones breaking up  
farmers' strikes. And these days, GOP-sanctioned anti-immigrant  
groups make life hell for Hispanic agricultural workers in the US. As  
violence against random Hispanics (citizens and otherwise) increases,  
the right-wing goon squads are getting basic training that, if the  
pattern holds, they may eventually use to intimidate the rest of us.


Paxton wrote that succeeding at the second stage "depends on certain  
relatively precise conditions: the weakness of a liberal state, whose  
inadequacies condemn the nation to disorder, decline, or humiliation;  
and political deadlock because the R

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> Excellent op-ed piece from the NY Times about
> the thing I've most been waiting for and hoping
> for -- whistleblowers from within the insurance
> industry. This piece is about a very visible one,
> Wendell Potter, who was a Cigna executive

Actually, Barry's waiting and hoping time would
have been shortened by two months had he been
paying attention--to the posts here, to the news,
or to the blogs.

Potter's testimony was reported on June 25, the
day after it was given, by the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/24/AR2009062401636.html?hpid=topnews

http://tinyurl.com/ln843b

And it was all over the blogs, of course. Not only
that, but our very own do.rkflex posted the WaPo
story here (#222799) the day it came out.

It's good that Kristof has written an op-ed about
Potter's revelations; we need to be reminded of
them on a regular basis. But let's not pretend
they're new news.

If Potter's whistle-blowing is new *to you*, it's
because you haven't been paying attention.

BTW, Kristof misses a bet here:

"Mr. Potter notes that a third tactic is for insurers
to raise premiums for a small business astronomically
after an employee is found to have an illness that
will be very expensive to treat. That forces the
business to drop coverage for all its employees or go
elsewhere."

Or find an excuse to *fire the sick employee*, Kristof
should have added.

(This is 50 for me. See you tomorrow or thereabouts.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[WillyTex]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> We don't need more rhetoric; we need 
> more whistle-blowers. With enough of 
> them, the public will get to hear 
> what's *really* being done to them by 
> the insurance companies...
>
You probably don't even have any health
care insurance, Barry, to speak of - 
you're on the Spanish government plan.

You'll probably someday get on Medicare,
that is, if you've been paying your share
of the U.S. payroll taxes. When you are
self-employed, you're supposed to be 
paying double FICA taxes. 

So, I don't see how you're going to 
change anything having to do with your 
Spanish health plan, by 'blowing the 
whistle' on the U.S. insurance you 
haven't got. 

That's not going to affect your level 
of care in Spain either. And since you 
don't vote in U.S. elections, you're 
just not very persuasive when you open 
your pie hole and start talking about 
insurance plans.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[j_alexander_stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> H.
> 
> "babaji" and "robert" seems to be two different people with
> separate counts.

Nope: they both have the same unique email address. The script was set up to 
count user names instead of email addresses because the people who hide their 
IP address all show up with the same "no_reply" email address. The 
Robert/babaji situation happens when people send posts from both Yahoo webmail 
and the Yahoo groups website with the user name configured differently on the 
different interfaces. In this case, Robert is webmail and babaji is website.

[FairfieldLife] Getcher medical care here...step into the next available cattle stall

[TurquoiseB]

Excellent op-ed piece from the NY Times about
the thing I've most been waiting for and hoping
for -- whistleblowers from within the insurance
industry. This piece is about a very visible one,
Wendell Potter, who was a Cigna executive who
helped *design* and *defend* the policies that
allowed his company to deny their clients' claims,
but who had a change of heart after seeing "Sicko"
and viewing a health care clinic that was trying
to help those without insurance, and had to do so
out of an old barn at the county fairgrounds,
with the patients being seen in the cattle stalls.
He resigned, and testified before a Senate com-
mittee as to what his and other insurance companies
were doing on a regular basis. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/27/opinion/27kristof.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

I've sat in cafeterias and board rooms and heard
people like him (but without a soul) talk dispas-
sionately about the very policies he talks about,
such as "rescission," and give awards and promotions
to employees who can cancel the most policyholders'
policies just as they get sick and need them.

We don't need more rhetoric; we need more whistle-
blowers. With enough of them, the public will get
to hear what's *really* being done to them by
the insurance companies.

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does this mean for the world???

[WillyTex]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> More sensible spiritual visions of a better world
> never lose sight of the fact that we have to work
> to achieve them...
>
So, why don't you go out and get yourself a job and
make some money? Then, you could afford a health
care plan, instead of depending on the government.
That way, you could pay some taxes and share the
burden of insuring all those who are less fortunate.
Now that's a sensible spiritual vision - maybe you
could even buy yourself a house or a car, or a new
laptop.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[shempmcgurk]

H.

"babaji" and "robert" seems to be two different people with separate counts.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount  wrote:
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> As a comparison, I keep an eye on the other "Meditation U." in the  
> US, Naropa University. They teach meditation for free. Unless one  
> decides to take Shambhala training, no one is herded or forced 
> into odd c. 1970 new age belief systems. And they're booming 
> without having to import foreign high tech workers, with 
> non-disclosure agreements to various US manufacturers. If you 
> think MMY was one weird piece of work, the founder of Naropa 
> was a womanizing, boozehound and about as nonconventional as 
> you could get. But somehow it still works. The programs he 
> drafted for creating an enlightened society not only still are 
> being used...they sell out all over the US. And rather than 
> getting their tits in a wringer about "other teachers" Naropa 
> constantly has some of the greatest different masters from 
> different traditions visiting and teaching at Naropa.  
> It's a shocking contrast to the Maharishi Gulag U. where 
> they censor everything from artwork and internet access 
> to which other teachers you're allowed to see.

I have to agree about Naropa. I have attended classes
and seminars there when visiting friends in Boulder
or doing contract work there, and it's amazing...as
close to "non-demoninational" as I've ever found,
and "high-vibe" without trying to be.

And, as you point out, this is the legacy of Chogyam
Trungpa, one of the most controversial teachers of
our age. Whenever I have sat down and rapped with
anyone who spent time with Trungpa I have always 
been impressed. He may have been odd, but the man 
produced great students who seem to have learned
something. I value that much more than teachers
with big reps and big followings who seem to 
produce students who do the same old same old
their whole lives and never seem to represent
the spiritual lifestyle they talk so much about.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:

[Vaj wrote:]
> > Apparently the younger generation can see the scam  
> > that earlier generations missed.
> 
> The scam?  Some students do enroll and freely stay on
> with the University.
> 
> Regardless,
> would seem the essential problem came from accepting
> students in to their university academic programs who
> were not meditators before they came to campus.

> The movement and MUM had to capitulate last Spring when
> students essentially coming for academic programs choked
> on too much meditation and too much TM, SCI and
> Invinvible doctrine all at once.

Here's what I don't get: Weren't prospective students
told about what was involved in a MUM education before
they applied? Including the basic SCI structure of the
academic program and the meditation requirements?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America

[wayback71]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> >
> > Upper- echelon TM TB's going to see this guy John Douglas, as a saint.  
> > Canvassing around about this in particular and then get people laugh at the 
> > irony, decrying the double-standard and corruption of the Transcendental 
> > Meditation movement culture in the same guffaw.  
> > 
> > Double-standard?
> >
> 
> In betterment.
> 
> Surveying around, behind this meditating community reaction to 
> `double-standard' , corruption like this is frequently the thought that `It 
> just has to die before it will get better'.  Most always with this also is a 
> clear sense that zealot movement guidelines also need a looking at and to be 
> changed if there is going to be a change in the status quo of the TMmovement 
> for the betterment of any.

Behind all this is the fact that it was MMY himself who set up these rules and 
standards and would not budge when questioned.  So the inner circle of TM 
people are continuing to try to uphold MMY's approach to all these issues like 
seeing other saints, sending lots of  MSAE's tuition to India, paying staff at 
MSAE very little in salary, who cannot get into the Domes, fees for learning 
TM, etcetcetc. So those who worked directly for MMY for all these years are 
going to continue to uphold his rules because they believe they are doing the 
right thing and continuing MMY's wishes.  Most of MMY's rules are not logical 
or even reasonable.  Now that he is gone, is it easier to question things and 
express long-held doubts and begin to be independent and follow your own gut 
feelings.  IN other, grow up.  Given the wonderful people who have been 
attracted to learning TM over all these years, I think that the TMO and TM 
could be viable and helpful to society.  But the conflict  between MMY (and his 
inner circle) and logic,compassion, freedom to make your own choices will 
probably continue until the inner circle capitulates (which on one level I 
think they would love to do) or the whole thing just fades to a sad and weird 
old group. Certainly most young people today are too independent to buy in to 
some of these rules - even if they do come directly from MMY. 
> 
> 
> Of course, who of any  would argue the case inside?  Who  could have enough 
> guts, civic virtue, and power within the Transcendental Meditation movement 
> community to change these zealot guidelines towards letting meditators who 
> could be doing the TM-sidhis program in the domes come back in to the dome 
> programs?  Unmolested.  
> 
> Would take some going against a stoutly held doctrinal community inside, 
> which holds that guidelines are teaching.  Doctrinal confusing guideline as 
> immutable teaching.  Would take some large vision and conviction going 
> against a fear that changing guidelines would be changing teaching.  Is an 
> entrenched position that would take a lot of courage to change from inside 
> the Transcendental Meditation movement position.
> 
> Is part of the complexion you'd see here.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> > The single standard has been toxic and corrosive in itself and the 
> > administration of it even worst evidently for the TMmovement community for 
> > some while.  Has been an effect for some time & is very much the character 
> > of a status quo here now.  They evidently have a problem with it.  Ask 
> > people about this and you get `it's corrupt'.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will God Tell Michele Bachmann To Run For President?

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
>
> You might try switching to decaf.
> 
> You have difficulty following rational thought.

Shemp: Barry for President! Push buttons for Jesus! His first act as president 
will be to strafe Atlantic City with cluster bombs.

Judy: Shemp, you strafe with bullets.

Azgrey: Dumbass. Oxford says "bomb." See how stupid you are? 

Judy: DOD says automatic weapons fire. Punked!

Azgrey: Typical of the DOD. Pickup some smarts. Punk'd! 

Judy: Do automatic weapons contain cluster bombs? Argue with DOD and Merriam 
Webster. Urban Dictionary says "punked."

Azgrey: You have difficulty following rational thought. "Resentment is like 
taking poison and waiting for the other person to die."

Raunchydog: After losing an argument with the DOD and cluster bombs, Azgrey, 
quotes an irrelevant non sequitur about resentment and poison. Apparently, he's 
out of ammunition and that's his final shot. Judy, Azgrey keeps calling you 
stupid.

Judy: I'm ignoring it.

Raunchydog: Well, it sure sounds like resentful projection and "gotta get Judy 
jihad" to me.

Judy: As I've said before, "He's just not up to it." 

Raunchdog: Barry really liked Azgrey's poison metaphor. He devoted a whole post 
to it.

Judy: He must be drinking again.

Raunchydog: Poison?

Judy: Exactly.
 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
> > >
> > > You should use those forced week offs you get for your 
> > > chronic over-posting
> > 
> > Whoopsie. This was the first and only time for me,
> > actually. What I do "chronically" is stay within
> > the limit, you see.
> > 
> > (And last week was a good one to take off, because
> > I'd have done so anyway; I was out of town recreating
> > sans computer for most of it.)
> > 
> > Oh, BTW, it should be "weeks off," not "week offs."
> > 
> >  to pickup some smarts. Staying up
> > > till 2:30 furiously trying to defend the indefensible
> > 
> > Whoopsie again. You'd have no way of knowing this 
> > (except that you might have guessed, given that my
> > previous post had been at 10:30--doesn't take four
> > hours to check DOD's dictionary), but I was up at
> > that hour for other reasons and decided to take a
> > quick peek at FFL before turning in.
> > 
> > Oh, BTW, the verb form is "to pick up." "Pickup"
> > is the noun.
> > 
> >  is 
> > > not conducive to ameliorating your hysteria attacks. You
> > > really hate your mistake held up to public examination
> > > don't cha?
> > 
> > Ya know, Barry's held the title Master of Projection
> > for years now and is unlikely ever to have to give it
> > up, since projection has become his modus operandi.
> > 
> > Perhaps it would be a good idea to retire him from the
> > competition and make him Master of Projection Emeritus.
> > That way you could have a shot at the title.
> > 
> > As to the definition of "strafe," you're more than
> > welcome to argue with DOD and Merriam Webster...
> > 
> > > http://www.combat.ws/S4/MILTERMS/MT-S.HTM
> > > 
> > > "The delivery of automatic weapons fire by aircraft
> > > on ground targets"
> > > 
> > > An adequate, at best, definition. Typical of the DOD.
> > > Automatic weapons consist of machine guns which fire
> > > bullets and rockets which contain bombs.
> > 
> > ...however, I don't think rockets fired from aircraft
> > by automatic weapons contain cluster bombs, do you?
> > 
> > > > > > Barry's platform will be: I push your buttons for
> > > > > > Jesus. His first act as president will be to
> > > > > > strafe Atlantic City with cluster bombs in order
> > > > > > to do away with you-know-who and then blame it on
> > > > > > George Bush.
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_bomb
> > 
> > Whoopsie number three. (I'm graciously not counting
> > the "week offs" and "pickup" whoopsies.)
> > 
> > > You lose. Again.
> > > 
> > > BTW, it is spelled "punk'd." 
> > 
> > Not according to Urban Dictionary:
> > 
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=punked
> > 
> > And whoopsie number four!
> > 
> > (You may notice I'm not keeping a running total from
> > post to post, another gracious move on my part given
> > the number you've racked up so far in your Gotta Get
> > Judy jihad. Really, sweetie, you're just not up to it.)
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America

[Vaj]

On Aug 27, 2009, at 7:21 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:

Partly, the movement discovered and figured out how they could have  
students roll the higher cost fee of learning Transcendental  
Meditation in to student loan packages. Hence waiting for students  
to show up on campus to learn TM. Therefore facilitating a broader  
switch over to people who were essentially non-meditators as they  
arrived to the school. The link was broke then by the TMmovement to  
get at the money and gain a legitimacy in their own minds that way.


It is amazing to me that anyone would have the gall to charge so much  
for meditation that they could wrap it into a student loan. These  
kids are already going to overloaded with a a high amount of new age  
pseudoscience that will serve no actual value in the real world. Who,  
in their right mind, would want to waste the expensive cost of an  
education that's half Vedic bullshit and overpriced intro meditation  
techniques?


As a comparison, I keep an eye on the other "Meditation U." in the  
US, Naropa University. They teach meditation for free. Unless one  
decides to take Shambhala training, no one is herded or forced into  
odd c. 1970 new age belief systems. And they're booming without  
having to import foreign high tech workers, with non-disclosure  
agreements to various US manufacturers. If you think MMY was one  
weird piece of work, the founder of Naropa was a womanizing,  
boozehound and about as nonconventional as you could get. But somehow  
it still works. The programs he drafted for creating an enlightened  
society not only still are being used...they sell out all over the  
US. And rather than getting their tits in a wringer about "other  
teachers" Naropa constantly has some of the greatest different  
masters from different traditions visiting and teaching at Naropa.  
It's a shocking contrast to the Maharishi Gulag U. where they censor  
everything from artwork and internet access to which other teachers  
you're allowed to see.


The movement and MUM had to capitulate last Spring when students  
essentially coming for academic programs choked on too much  
meditation and too much TM, SCI and Invinvible doctrine all at  
once. The university is experiencing 60 to 70 percent attrition  
rates in their students in different programs each year. Foreign  
students and domestic. Foreign students have been coming for the  
more technical degrees and the newer domestic students more for the  
sustainable living programs.


In the capitulation the administration allowed these various  
students out of meditating in ways then to help get them through  
the last year.


A stunning change of course for the older spiritual university out  
of an administrative expedience.


But it may be too little, too late.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America

[dhamiltony2k5]

> 
> > Is an echo of the MUM student revolt last school year over the  
> > similar issues.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can you elaborate on this "revolt?"
> >
> According to MUM students posting on the web, people who are  
> attracted to MUM for their sustainability programs or are foreign  
> nationals just using MUM as a gateway to an American job, a lot of  
> them are sick with both the requirements of daily meditation (these  
> have now been reformulated and are now less severe; you no longer  
> have to meditate every day, in the dome) and the SCI indoctrination:  
> unified field this, unified field that; consciousness this,  
> consciousness that. Many modern kids won't put up with it. The  
> censorship doesn't help. So they either protest or have been  
> transferring after the semester or year. Many aren't interested in TM  
> or the TMSP or SCI. Others have laughed when asked if they would  
> continue meditating after they left or their keep up an interest in  
> Vedic science. Apparently the younger generation can see the scam  
> that earlier generations missed.
>

The scam?  Some students do enroll and freely stay on with the University.


Regardless,
would seem the essential problem came from accepting students in to their 
university academic programs who were not meditators before they came to campus.

Used to be the University was a place with courses of academic study where the 
students, staff and faculty were meditators .  That fell down in recent years 
as they accepted groups of students who were not meditators before they showed 
up on campus.

Partly, the movement discovered and figured out how they could have students 
roll the higher cost fee of learning Transcendental Meditation in to student 
loan packages. Hence waiting for students to show up on campus to learn TM.   
Therefore facilitating a broader switch over to people who were essentially 
non-meditators as they arrived to the school.  The link was broke then by the 
TMmovement to get at the money and gain a legitimacy in their own minds that 
way. 

The movement and MUM had to capitulate last Spring when students essentially 
coming for academic programs choked on too much meditation and too much TM, SCI 
and Invinvible doctrine all at once.  The university is experiencing 60 to 70 
percent attrition rates in their students in different programs each year.  
Foreign students and domestic.  Foreign students have been coming for the more 
technical degrees and the newer domestic students more for the sustainable 
living programs.

In the capitulation the administration allowed these various students out of 
meditating in ways then to help get them through the last year.

A stunning change of course for the older spiritual university out of an 
administrative expedience.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will God Tell Michele Bachmann To Run For President?

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
>
> You might try switching to decaf.
> 
> You have difficulty following rational thought.
> 
> "Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for
> the other person to die."
> - Malachy McCourt


"Reading the posts of someone who is on a steady
diet of drinking the poison of resentment and
jealousy is like trying to die more quickly 
yourself."

I don't want to dwell on this, because to do so
would obviate the benefits of the very "don't 
bother to read the things these poison sacs 
write" philosophy I'm espousing, but the time
during and since my recent vacation has been 
remarkably pleasant. And the only thing I'm 
doing differently is not reading the poisonous 
posts.

I scan FFL's Message View and when I see certain
names in the From column I now never click on 
them. Most of the time I don't even bother to 
read the one-sentence synopsis, *because I don't
have to*. From long experience here, I already
know what it will say, and what the rest of the 
post will say. 

Who here does NOT know what will be in a Judy post
before they read it? Who here does NOT know what
will be in a post by Willytex, or Raunchydog, or 
Nabby? There is no mystery there, no sense of any 
of them ever saying anything different or doing 
anything different than poison-spew? 

So what's the point of wading through the poison?
Let them stay up half the night fighting their
imaginary battles and declaring themselves the
imaginary winners and waiting for the "losers"
to die. I've got more interesting things to do.
Like living.


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
> > >
> > > You should use those forced week offs you get for your 
> > > chronic over-posting
> > 
> > Whoopsie. This was the first and only time for me,
> > actually. What I do "chronically" is stay within
> > the limit, you see.
> > 
> > (And last week was a good one to take off, because
> > I'd have done so anyway; I was out of town recreating
> > sans computer for most of it.)
> > 
> > Oh, BTW, it should be "weeks off," not "week offs."
> > 
> > > to pickup some smarts. Staying up
> > > till 2:30 furiously trying to defend the indefensible
> > 
> > Whoopsie again. You'd have no way of knowing this 
> > (except that you might have guessed, given that my
> > previous post had been at 10:30--doesn't take four
> > hours to check DOD's dictionary), but I was up at
> > that hour for other reasons and decided to take a
> > quick peek at FFL before turning in.
> > 
> > Oh, BTW, the verb form is "to pick up." "Pickup"
> > is the noun.
> > 
> > > is 
> > > not conducive to ameliorating your hysteria attacks. You
> > > really hate your mistake held up to public examination
> > > don't cha?
> > 
> > Ya know, Barry's held the title Master of Projection
> > for years now and is unlikely ever to have to give it
> > up, since projection has become his modus operandi.
> > 
> > Perhaps it would be a good idea to retire him from the
> > competition and make him Master of Projection Emeritus.
> > That way you could have a shot at the title.
> > 
> > As to the definition of "strafe," you're more than
> > welcome to argue with DOD and Merriam Webster...
> > 
> > > http://www.combat.ws/S4/MILTERMS/MT-S.HTM
> > > 
> > > "The delivery of automatic weapons fire by aircraft
> > > on ground targets"
> > > 
> > > An adequate, at best, definition. Typical of the DOD.
> > > Automatic weapons consist of machine guns which fire
> > > bullets and rockets which contain bombs.
> > 
> > ...however, I don't think rockets fired from aircraft
> > by automatic weapons contain cluster bombs, do you?
> > 
> > > > > > Barry's platform will be: I push your buttons for
> > > > > > Jesus. His first act as president will be to
> > > > > > strafe Atlantic City with cluster bombs in order
> > > > > > to do away with you-know-who and then blame it on
> > > > > > George Bush.
> > 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_bomb
> > 
> > Whoopsie number three. (I'm graciously not counting
> > the "week offs" and "pickup" whoopsies.)
> > 
> > > You lose. Again.
> > > 
> > > BTW, it is spelled "punk'd." 
> > 
> > Not according to Urban Dictionary:
> > 
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=punked
> > 
> > And whoopsie number four!
> > 
> > (You may notice I'm not keeping a running total from
> > post to post, another gracious move on my part given
> > the number you've racked up so far in your Gotta Get
> > Judy jihad. Really, sweetie, you're just not up to it.)
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Denied, to Invincible America

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
> >
> > Upper- echelon TM TB's going to see this guy John Douglas, 
> > as a saint.  Canvassing around about this in particular 
> > and then get people laugh at the irony, decrying the 
> > double-standard and corruption of the Transcendental 
> > Meditation movement culture in the same guffaw.  
> > 
> > Double-standard?
> 
> In betterment.
> 
> Surveying around, behind this meditating community reaction to 
> `double-standard' , corruption like this is frequently the 
> thought that `It just has to die before it will get better'.  

Interestingly, this is the same thought that causes
reincarnation, and prevents the realization of 
enlightenment.  :-)

> Most always with this also is a clear sense that zealot 
> movement guidelines also need a looking at and to be changed 
> if there is going to be a change in the status quo of the 
> TMmovement for the betterment of any.
> 
> Of course, who of any  would argue the case inside?  Who  
> could have enough guts, civic virtue, and power within the 
> Transcendental Meditation movement community to change 
> these zealot guidelines towards letting meditators who 
> could be doing the TM-sidhis program in the domes come 
> back in to the dome programs?  Unmolested.  

All it would take IMO is "going public."

Take it to the press. Turn it into a story that
has the potential of getting picked up by the
Eleven O'Clock News and see how fast things change.

That's what happened with the recently-changed 
rules about meditating in the domes for MUM students.
A few courageous ones "went public" with the fact that
they were about to be thrown out for not meditating
as they were told to do, interest began to develop
in the real world about it, and MUM caved within a
couple of weeks and changed the rules. 

Go public. Fascists cannot stand the light of day.

If these people moving out of Fairfield gave inter-
views to television crews before they left, the 
situation at the school and in Fairfield might 
change, and for the better. By slinking off quietly,
as if *they* were the ones who somehow failed, they
*perpetuate* the situation.

Go public. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does this mean for the world???

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Aug 25, 2009, at 4:48 PM, do.rflex wrote:
> 
> -
> >  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ghanesh PV  wrote:
> > > What is the use of finances when the whole world turns to be 
> > > free totally, where everyone offers everything freely and 
> > > behave naturally? There wont be any need of banks in world. 
> > > no money no manipulation and etc.
> >
> > Of course! And then the Fairies will share their magic glitter 
> > with the Pixies and the Mushroom People, and they'll gather on 
> > the banks of the Marshmallow River to lift their voices in a 
> > song that will echo throughout Lollipop Valley.
> 
> Ha, ha...(snicker)

And a hearty ha ha from me as well. Well said, do.

What your response reminds me of, interestingly, is
the response of mythologists and those who study the
power of myth and fairy tale (like Joseph Campbell)
to what they called the "Disneyfication" of powerful
myths. This is referring to the Disney Studios' 
tendency to remove anything overtly evil from the
fairy tales and stories they brought to the screen.
They tended to make the Bad Guys look pathetic or
laughable rather than someone/something that should
rightly be feared because it can...duh...kill you.
These people were of the opinion that robbing a 
powerful myth of its real danger was equivalent to
robbing it of its inherent power -- as a symbol 
and as a teaching device. They were also opposed 
to the deus ex machina element that Disney intro-
duced into the stories it reamade, changing a tale
that is resolved by individual human effort into
one that is only resolved by some higher power or
unseen force.

I see the same thing in the fantasies that many 
spiritual True Believers dream up about the world
and cling to. They tend to focus on non-real-world
views of the world, views that ignore the fact that
there *are* Bad Guys out there. Also, they tend to
ignore the even more important fact that things
have to be done by human beings to *achieve* these 
better worlds they're dreaming of. In the TMO 
fantasy, nothing has to be done except sitting on 
one's ass meditating or bouncing around on your butt 
"flying" and waiting. Especially waiting. :-)

More sensible spiritual visions of a better world
never lose sight of the fact that we have to work
to achieve them, both in our own daily lives out-
side of meditation, and in real-world groups of
human beings who deal with and fix the problems. 

Fantasies like Ghanesh PV's and Nabby's and (let's
face it) Maharishi's are -- bottom line -- "Beam 
me up Scotty" fantasies. Just believe hard enough
in Woo Woo and do what you're told, and everything 
will get better, Real Soon Now.

Yeah, right. When the guys come to repo Ghanesh PV's 
house and car, all he has to do is click his heels 
together three times and chant the magic mantra, 
"There's no place like Sat Yuga...there's no place 
like Sat Yuga," and everything will be fine.  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Will God Tell Michele Bachmann To Run For President?

[azgrey]

You might try switching to decaf.

You have difficulty following rational thought.

"Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for
the other person to die."
- Malachy McCourt

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey  wrote:
> >
> > You should use those forced week offs you get for your 
> > chronic over-posting
> 
> Whoopsie. This was the first and only time for me,
> actually. What I do "chronically" is stay within
> the limit, you see.
> 
> (And last week was a good one to take off, because
> I'd have done so anyway; I was out of town recreating
> sans computer for most of it.)
> 
> Oh, BTW, it should be "weeks off," not "week offs."
> 
>  to pickup some smarts. Staying up
> > till 2:30 furiously trying to defend the indefensible
> 
> Whoopsie again. You'd have no way of knowing this 
> (except that you might have guessed, given that my
> previous post had been at 10:30--doesn't take four
> hours to check DOD's dictionary), but I was up at
> that hour for other reasons and decided to take a
> quick peek at FFL before turning in.
> 
> Oh, BTW, the verb form is "to pick up." "Pickup"
> is the noun.
> 
>  is 
> > not conducive to ameliorating your hysteria attacks. You
> > really hate your mistake held up to public examination
> > don't cha?
> 
> Ya know, Barry's held the title Master of Projection
> for years now and is unlikely ever to have to give it
> up, since projection has become his modus operandi.
> 
> Perhaps it would be a good idea to retire him from the
> competition and make him Master of Projection Emeritus.
> That way you could have a shot at the title.
> 
> As to the definition of "strafe," you're more than
> welcome to argue with DOD and Merriam Webster...
> 
> > http://www.combat.ws/S4/MILTERMS/MT-S.HTM
> > 
> > "The delivery of automatic weapons fire by aircraft
> > on ground targets"
> > 
> > An adequate, at best, definition. Typical of the DOD.
> > Automatic weapons consist of machine guns which fire
> > bullets and rockets which contain bombs.
> 
> ...however, I don't think rockets fired from aircraft
> by automatic weapons contain cluster bombs, do you?
> 
> > > > > Barry's platform will be: I push your buttons for
> > > > > Jesus. His first act as president will be to
> > > > > strafe Atlantic City with cluster bombs in order
> > > > > to do away with you-know-who and then blame it on
> > > > > George Bush.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_bomb
> 
> Whoopsie number three. (I'm graciously not counting
> the "week offs" and "pickup" whoopsies.)
> 
> > You lose. Again.
> > 
> > BTW, it is spelled "punk'd." 
> 
> Not according to Urban Dictionary:
> 
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=punked
> 
> And whoopsie number four!
> 
> (You may notice I'm not keeping a running total from
> post to post, another gracious move on my part given
> the number you've racked up so far in your Gotta Get
> Judy jihad. Really, sweetie, you're just not up to it.)
>