[FairfieldLife] The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1
[FairfieldLife] How Free is the Free Marked ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1
[FairfieldLife] An interesting interview with Benjamin Creme by an american
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua73vvSBDb8feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_El0HHhiAfMNR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW8SF0xIfc8feature=related
[FairfieldLife] Oscar Picks
For those who are interested, here's a link to the IMDB users' poll results -- who film freaks think will win the major awards in Sunday's party. IMDB users tend to be pretty savvy, and I agree with pretty much all of their picks here except one. Given all the behind-the-scenes machinations and posturing re The Hurt Locker (rumors of a system- atic smear campaign against it, and then when its producer sent an email to Academy Members urging them to ignore the smear campaign, banning him from the ceremony), I think that Best Director might very well go to Kathryn Bigelow. I think that Avatar is still going to win for Best Picture, though. http://www.imdb.com/features/rto/2010/poll/oscarpoll-results Personally I think that Up In The Air should beat out District 9 for Best Adapted Screenplay, but that's about the only possible surprise of the night. Avatar is pretty much a lock for Best Pic, and the others have popular appeal going for them.
[FairfieldLife] Unusual way to celebrate National Grammar Day at the office :-)
Other great examples at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/04/national-grammar-day-2010_n_485\ 716.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/04/national-grammar-day-2010_n_48\ 5716.html
[FairfieldLife] What You Need To Know About the FACC
http://r20.rs6.net/on.jsp?t=1103139210385.0.1102018840722.173ts=S0463o=http://ui.constantcontact.com/images/p1x1.gif http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103139210385s=173e=001EwOaL_A6zIPaJEqpxWNK83PFfKXaAZCwzfAAN3thyyI1_CNuKgHb9cUozlphInf17LL1tl8HGRM_kwKTBR4WR8UnIzs4krL7tbB74yH3qK_cw0QxYWPKoQ== Fairfield Arts and Convention Center Dear Rick, Last year, under the leadership of Executive Director Rustin Lippincott, the FACC underwent a dynamic and positive shift by presenting a broad variety of affordable events that appealed to a high percentage of our local residents and which attracted approximately 17,000 out of town visitors. One significant result of this management transformation was that Center revenues grew over 400% last year. Mayor Ed Malloy along with many other Fairfield residents, civic and business leaders see the Center as a significant, irreplaceable Community asset for two primary reasons: Quality of http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103139210385s=173e=001EwOaL_A6zIN3v9jU414az33-4Q3K5lY2FLIO-lcfGu286ZKPB-CI1KR6sPywRgzhTmNb-L9Iv0qo2SZ1TNtrzvNLTEKwSfYdUQpeaONyOkqsaWTh6bijjz5-5_JJSWC878bN7cX5q9XGEdacGin2Kg== Life and Economic Impact. Facilities like the FACC generally are constructed and operated to serve the community and rarely break even without community support. If you live in the Fairfield area, you are likely aware that even with our success in 2009, our recent business planning has clarified the need to become debt free and to establish an annual fundraising campaign to operate at breakeven each year - details of which can be found here http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103139210385s=173e=001EwOaL_A6zINYUkpbdcQidy-lxolGrRbXygeHnn6vIyoYSeZzs3Wpx2qcCTrMHE2NxxtATRmhXIedM339pq-bqONuNamH4WYL6Mm0l2EFBuX4ST49Td2A6o_n3K0fb2DJDO90g2RMMjmG4KDZtupBzwgiNZrOX4AtFHw3aEIP6aLJZ6I6cjlgMwEptd-hh3rujOzddzk206t5NtLVp1x36CSGqBwwWVk8 . You may be interested to know that by May 1st we plan to insure that the FACC property remains under local control by: 1. Appealing to local businesses and individuals who have the committed vision and resources to invest in Fairfield's long-term growth. We are raising $950,000 from this group, $350,000 of which has already been raised. 2. Helping more Fairfield citizens see and feel how the Center directly and meaningfully benefits their lives so that on May 4th, they will support passage of the referendum to permit the City to own the Center free and clear through a reallocation of approximately ½ of the 25% portion of its community betterment local option sales tax collections over a 9 or 10 year period ($650,000 in total). _ As a patron of The Fairfield Arts Convention Center there are a number of ways you can help secure its future: * Continue coming to Center events that appeal to you, and encourage your friends to do so. * Become more informed about our 2010 business plan and the May 4th referendum by visiting www.FairfieldCenterInfo.com http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103139210385s=173e=001EwOaL_A6zIMl9uX3De6VpxBKeR9XX1-NFwEa6NfEh-88x33oYtQvgEe4ZKmao4iwxB866_3G7yLk_rDqpBmsyqZYgXFoKthOVRy6Zg1AyJahY0KZLyDrJqaNqInKgi7D or contacting Rustin or any of our board members. * Support the FACC financially. Go to www.FairfieldACC.com http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1103139210385s=173e=001EwOaL_A6zINIGP0VLGr3KGBScuj9-aMOOsjfee9XSR6VIFA-oHv9K135pTm0T9FkRffBQD8DHfs2SA3ugco1_LwlN1UlQeM1mqztnP9e1b5gRYZWm9H1TyrdHAD4FqTptfzp1dnUSYa57dPhmLiEZA== to make an instant donation, or download a donation card which provides several payment options, including monthly automatic payments. * Vote on May 4th in favor of local option sales tax referendum. * Help us educate your friends and neighbors about how the Center enriches our community and family life and about the importance of voting Yes on May 4th. _ Thank you for your past and future support. Sincerely, Bob Moore President FACC Board of Directors
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live TM Theatre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qu7a2lbkw 'scuse my ignorance, but who was that speaking? I'm sticking my head above the parapet here - but I thought he did a fine job. And was that substantial chap reading his magazine and making notes Bevan? (And why wasn't he paying attention!) Oh! As you can see I'm not up on this stuff (Hagelin, who he?). Each to his own etc etc. I thought he came across quite natural and sincere. A minority of one here for sure. Bevan (for it was He) - now his body language looked downright rude and disrespectful. Flicking through his copy of, what? Train Spotter Monthly? - and seeming to me to pointedly disregard proceedings. Perhaps my radar needs a service. Yep, fabulous body languaging. Great theatre. poor Bevan has to power-share with these jerks. Yeah, looking at the room, Hagelin proly does not have much real authority to lead. But more able to do good works over at The David Lynch Foundation as a kind of extra-territorial movement. the video gets better on the second or third replay.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The word socialist: be afraid, be very, very afraid.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: noun 1.a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In the post-MMY era, is the movement re-setting to become more socialistic? Look at the SBS Trust and Global Country now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qu7a2lbkw or MUM as community. The old ownership form of the movement was to extract capital from the means of production and the community as a whole and transfer that to the East. The goal was to lend a hand to the cosmic purpose of ending capitalism on this particular planet. Maharishi, the Master of Masters in this Age, with His onepointed focus, simply did just that.
[FairfieldLife] Raj Patel on Colbert
http://www.grist.org/article/2010-01-14-raj-patel-on-colbert/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live TM Theatre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qu7a2lbkw the video gets better on the second or third replay. Probably because your stomach is empty after tossing your cookies the first time through. :-) Seriously, Buck, if this were a video of any other spiritual movement on the planet, would you be able to see anything in it *other* than a source of laughter or an urge to puke? I mean, ya got your fat toady in a crown trying to compliment as many people as humanly possible to hold on to his crown, since he's the only one in the room who didn't pay a million bucks for it. Ya got your silent king sitting on a throne, allowing the toady to do it and nodding at all the right moments like an ex-junkie playing along with the group therapy session so he can get his next hit of methadone. Ya got yer old codger introduced by the toady and enduring a standing ovation from the very people who not only sat by and allowed Maharishi to trash him and write him out of the movement, but *helped* him do it by piling on to all the trash. Ya got yer three (count them, only three) newest Governors, who when introduced by the toady stand up for their applause while looking around at the room full of old coots, wondering what the heck they got themselves into. Ya got yer Fat Boy doodling on the lunch menu the whole time, as if acting out like that were the only way he could get his revenge for being the only one up front not told that it wsa a costume party and that he should wear robes and a Burger King crown. And finally ya got the toady waxing eloquent at the end, praising Da King as the embodiment of silence, and suggesting that the entire future of the movement depends on having such a dedicated, one-pointed, and above all celibate and unmarried person such as himself at the helm of it. I agree that on one level it's great theater. What I'm not sure of is whether it's supposed to be a comedy or a tragedy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1 I understand that you are linking his themes with the Maharishi quote Nabby. But I see it a little differently. It isn't capitalism that Patel is targeting as much as free market dominant capitalism. All markets have a continuum of regulation and freedom. One of our biggest problems in the US is that our system of regulations is corrupted by special interest corporate lobbying. This allows some of our biggest corporations to act in a way that doesn't serve the public good and can even cause disasters like our credit markets. And yet the incentives created by freedom in markets are a fantastic way to get people moving, to create systems of profit that can end up benefiting society through job creation. And then once again regulations assist so that an employer doesn't exploit workers, which has not worked in all of our industries but has helped in some. Looking at working conditions at the turn of the last century we can see that some progress have been made. For example we become shortsighted when we don't include our illegal alien workforce in our agro-business essentially thinking of them as not humans that we need to care about because they are not legally Americans. But we participate in the exploitation by buying food that is artificially cheap with no regard to the lives we are crushing with our food system. The same is true of our addiction to cheep clothes and other products made by countries with no worker protections. I believe that capitalism itself is not the problem but the way we have allowed it to function in our society needs adjustment. The people who argue for totally free markets as well as the people calling to an end of capitalism need to get closer together on the continuum of regulation and freedom which is the way our society works. No longer can we embrace extreme ideology on either side, because we have evidence that neither of them work. What I find compelling about the little I know about Patel's perspective (thanks to you) is that he seems to be approaching this with a reasoned appreciation of the virtues and limitations of both parts of the system. We need to make a more carefully reasoned choice about how we are going to mix these two concepts in our society rather than the random and corporate bullying style that has gotten us into trouble. America needs to change, but we also can't forget that people come to our country from all over the world because of our emphasis on free markets. Even if in practice we have not found the best balance to sustain us as a society yet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Given his looks and charisma, I'll bet he gets *lots* of odd and potentially distracting attention, not just from Creme-ites. Hope he can keep a handle on his ego. And I'm a little concerned about his becoming Oprahfied and then dismissed as just another New Age type by the folks who really need to hear what he's saying. He has zero New Age vibe for me. I really appreciate that he is honest about his Atheism. It isn't popular. (If I were his publicity person, I'd try to talk him into getting some speech therapy for his stammer when he's speaking extemporaneously. It makes him look unsure of himself, which he clearly is not!) I think that is his Hugh Grant move. Hot guys like that need to have imperfections so they seem approachable. Or so I've heard... Plenty of interesting stuff on his Web site: http://rajpatel.org/ Yeah look at his number one hidden cost item: #1 Women's work The world wouldn't turn without the work of raising children, and caring for family and community. But it's the work that is most often and quite literally taken for granted. If the work that women did were to be paid, how much would it cost? Researchers put it at $11 trillion in 1995, or half the world's total output. Movements demanding a basic income grant are laying the foundations for this new way of working and living. Valuing women's work would, more than any other single thing, transform the way we think about our economy and society. Will mothers get performance reviews? If under performing do they get sacked? Do fathers get anything? (no pointed editorial comment here).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raj Patel on Colbert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: http://www.grist.org/article/2010-01-14-raj-patel-on-colbert/ Satiric genius! I have to get the book to understand what he is talking about with improving democracy using ancient Athens as a model. We have a representative democracy for a reason. Colbert's comment about randomly choosing leaders leading to Sarah Palin was actually a serious point!
[FairfieldLife] Re: The word socialist: be afraid, be very, very afraid.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: The goal was to lend a hand to the cosmic purpose of ending capitalism on this particular planet. Maharishi, the Master of Masters in this Age, with His onepointed focus, simply did just that. The growth of the movement was an example of his taking advantage of our free market regulation balance. He was able to start up a business and then not pay taxes because of the designation educational. In my view we need to be able to tax religions and spiritual groups like everyone else. The movement's non profit educational organization status seems dubious to me but they pulled it off. But Maharishi for all his posturing was a big fan and beneficiary of capitalism. He was just not a fan of freedom for others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: noun 1.a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In the post-MMY era, is the movement re-setting to become more socialistic? Look at the SBS Trust and Global Country now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qu7a2lbkw or MUM as community. The old ownership form of the movement was to extract capital from the means of production and the community as a whole and transfer that to the East. The goal was to lend a hand to the cosmic purpose of ending capitalism on this particular planet. Maharishi, the Master of Masters in this Age, with His onepointed focus, simply did just that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stampede in an Indian Temple
metoo: ...on the campus of the former TM Radiance community there. Next door to the Radiance community, about a mile away, in Hays County. ...he later repudiated Vedanta Vaishnavas have their own interpretation of Vedanta (those who follow the Upanishads). Gaudiya Vaishnavism is 'Achintya-Bheda-Abheda', a school of Vedanta. This school represents the philosophy of 'inconceivable oneness and difference' and the relation of *Energies* and *Creator* (Radha and Krishna). A Very Brief Outline of the South Asian Systems of Philosophy and Heterodox Epistemology: 1. Vedanta Adi Shankaracharya sampradaya [Advaita Vedanta] Sri-Vaishnavism Sri-Vaishnava sampradaaya [Vishisht Advaita Vedanta] Tengalai (Southern; Tamil) Bengalai (Northern; Sanskrit) Madhva Vaishnavism Maadhva sampradaaya [Dvaita Vedanta] Bengali Vaishnavism Gaudiya-Vaishnava sampradaaya [Bheda-bheda Vedanta] Mahapurushiya Sect Assam West Indian or Gujarati Vaishnavism Vallabha sampradaaya [Shuddh Advaita] Smartism (Smarta Pantheism) Smaarta sampradaaya [Advaita Vedanta] 2. Yoga (enstatic introspection) [Dhyana] 3. Mimamsa (Vedist Ritualism) 4. Samkhya (Brahmanic Analytical Atheism) 5. Nyaya (Logical Theism) 6. Vaisheshika (Atomic Naturalism) The Non-vedic Heterodox Systems: 1.Shaivism Shaiva Dharma [Shaiva Dharma] Dravidian Shaivism Old Dravidian Shaivism (Adishaivism) [adisaivar] Tamil Shaivism Shaiva Siddhanta [saiva siddhanta dharma] Kannada Shaivism Lingayat Shaivism [virasaiva dharma] Chandalla Shaivism (Dalits Adivasis) 2. Gond Religion 3. Bhil Religion 4. Kol Shaivism (Kolarian Religions) kol shaivar 5. Munda Religion 6. Santal Religion 7. Kaul Shaktism Sramanism (Sramanic Heterodoxies) nastika sramana dharam 1. Buddhism [bauddhas] 2. Jainism [jainas] 3. Carvaks 4. Shaktism [shaktas] Right-Handed (Daskhinachari) Left-Handed (Vamachari) 5. Kowls or Extreme Shaktas: cf. Kolarian Religion 6. Rajput Religion (Rajput Solar Religion) Saura Dharma 7. Tantrism (Tibetan Tantric Religions) Tantra Bon Kashmir Shaivism Lamaism Read more: Subject: Adwaita, vishishta-dvaita, dvaita, and bheda-bheda. Author: Willytex Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: June 22, 2002 http://tinyurl.com/ykq2vb2
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live TM Theatre
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I agree that on one level it's great theater. What I'm not sure of is whether it's supposed to be a comedy or a tragedy. What we do know is that the Turq certainly made up his mind long ago. That he got stuck in stupidity is a comedy and on the personal level a tragedy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1 I understand that you are linking his themes with the Maharishi quote Nabby. But I see it a little differently. It isn't capitalism that Patel is targeting as much as free market dominant capitalism. All markets have a continuum of regulation and freedom. One of our biggest problems in the US is that our system of regulations is corrupted by special interest corporate lobbying. This allows some of our biggest corporations to act in a way that doesn't serve the public good and can even cause disasters like our credit markets. And yet the incentives created by freedom in markets are a fantastic way to get people moving, to create systems of profit that can end up benefiting society through job creation. Excellent distinction. There is a tendency (or thinking below our full potential) to generalize Captitalism (or is it Kapitalism,) with all markets. Often there is actually little corellation. What we have and are increasingly getting is cronyistic elitist statism -- which has NOTHING to do with free markets, particularly free markets at the at the mom and pop micro level. I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Its a breakthrough position, in my view -- giving copious red meat (ok red lentils) to both the right and left (a defunct set of terms, in my view - how can politics and world view, world and individual solutions be limited to one dimension?) Ending world poverty by enabling the 10% of the population to create and grow their open businesses -- getting out from under the hand of exploitative statist mini-Kapitalists who control local politics and markets (an oxymoron -- who control controlled transactions among unfree participants)and enabling the disadvantaged to creatie wealth, dignity, skill base, and a much more textured and robust economy. And then once again regulations assist so that an employer doesn't exploit workers, which has not worked in all of our industries but has helped in some. Looking at working conditions at the turn of the last century we can see that some progress have been made. For example we become shortsighted when we don't include our illegal alien workforce in our agro-business essentially thinking of them as not humans that we need to care about because they are not legally Americans. But we participate in the exploitation by buying food that is artificially cheap with no regard to the lives we are crushing with our food system. The same is true of our addiction to cheep clothes and other products made by countries with no worker protections. I believe that capitalism itself is not the problem but the way we have allowed it to function in our society needs adjustment. The people who argue for totally free markets as well as the people calling to an end of capitalism need to get closer together on the continuum of regulation and freedom which is the way our society works. No longer can we embrace extreme ideology on either side, because we have evidence that neither of them work. What I find compelling about the little I know about Patel's perspective (thanks to you) is that he seems to be approaching this with a reasoned appreciation of the virtues and limitations of both parts of the system. We need to make a more carefully reasoned choice about how we are going to mix these two concepts in our society rather than the random and corporate bullying style that has gotten us into trouble. America needs to change, but we also can't forget that people come to our country from all over the world because of our emphasis on free markets. Even if in practice we have not found the best balance to sustain us as a society yet.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stampede in an Indian Temple
Why does this happen so frequently? Curtis: It comes from their being a lack of an actual God behind the idea of him, How would you be knowing if their was an actual God behind the idea of him? In fact, don't these kinds of events actually happen because of cause and effect - the laws of gravity and force? and from the fact that believing in him doesn't make people better, smarter, or more ethical in any way. Does 'not believing' make you better, smarter, or more ethical in any way than the poor people who got trampled?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: What we have and are increasingly getting is cronyistic elitist statism -- which has NOTHING to do with free markets, particularly free markets at the at the mom and pop micro level. Right on! I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Its a breakthrough position, in my view - Thanks for the book tip. I just put it on hold at my local socialist library! Guys like this are IMO, the true spiritual leaders of the world. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1 I understand that you are linking his themes with the Maharishi quote Nabby. But I see it a little differently. It isn't capitalism that Patel is targeting as much as free market dominant capitalism. All markets have a continuum of regulation and freedom. One of our biggest problems in the US is that our system of regulations is corrupted by special interest corporate lobbying. This allows some of our biggest corporations to act in a way that doesn't serve the public good and can even cause disasters like our credit markets. And yet the incentives created by freedom in markets are a fantastic way to get people moving, to create systems of profit that can end up benefiting society through job creation. Excellent distinction. There is a tendency (or thinking below our full potential) to generalize Captitalism (or is it Kapitalism,) with all markets. Often there is actually little corellation. What we have and are increasingly getting is cronyistic elitist statism -- which has NOTHING to do with free markets, particularly free markets at the at the mom and pop micro level. I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Its a breakthrough position, in my view -- giving copious red meat (ok red lentils) to both the right and left (a defunct set of terms, in my view - how can politics and world view, world and individual solutions be limited to one dimension?) Ending world poverty by enabling the 10% of the population to create and grow their open businesses -- getting out from under the hand of exploitative statist mini-Kapitalists who control local politics and markets (an oxymoron -- who control controlled transactions among unfree participants)and enabling the disadvantaged to creatie wealth, dignity, skill base, and a much more textured and robust economy. And then once again regulations assist so that an employer doesn't exploit workers, which has not worked in all of our industries but has helped in some. Looking at working conditions at the turn of the last century we can see that some progress have been made. For example we become shortsighted when we don't include our illegal alien workforce in our agro-business essentially thinking of them as not humans that we need to care about because they are not legally Americans. But we participate in the exploitation by buying food that is artificially cheap with no regard to the lives we are crushing with our food system. The same is true of our addiction to cheep clothes and other products made by countries with no worker protections. I believe that capitalism itself is not the problem but the way we have allowed it to function in our society needs adjustment. The people who argue for totally free markets as well as the people calling to an end of capitalism need to get closer together on the continuum of regulation and freedom which is the way our society works. No longer can we embrace extreme ideology on either side, because we have evidence that neither of them work. What I find compelling about the little I know about Patel's perspective (thanks to you) is that he seems to be approaching this with a reasoned appreciation of the virtues and limitations of both parts of the system. We need to make a more carefully reasoned choice about how we are going to mix these two concepts in our society rather than the random and corporate bullying style that has gotten us into trouble. America needs to change, but we also can't forget that people come to our country from all over the world because of our emphasis on free markets. Even if in practice we have not found the best balance to sustain us as a society yet.
[FairfieldLife] Darrell Scott - River Take Me
You can't not like this . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDdQHbTLTc
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: #1 Women's work The world wouldn't turn without the work of raising children, and caring for family and community. But it's the work that is most often and quite literally taken for granted. If the work that women did were to be paid, how much would it cost? Researchers put it at $11 trillion in 1995, or half the world's total output. Movements demanding a basic income grant are laying the foundations for this new way of working and living. Valuing women's work would, more than any other single thing, transform the way we think about our economy and society. Will mothers get performance reviews? If under performing do they get sacked? Do fathers get anything? (no pointed editorial comment here). Its a truism that parents -- hardly just mothers -- spend huge amounts of labor raising their kids -- outside the market economy -- that is,they are not paid for this labor with explicit money. And a majority of homeowners put in much free non-market labor fixing up the house, landscaping, putting in a deck, etc. (often men) However, to me, trying to monetize this labor seems going in the wrong direction. If you monetize it, it becomes taxable. Do we really want to tax motherhood? If anything, I would hope the direction is towards DEmonetizing parts of the economy. Indeed, what has spawned a lot of problems (and some good) is the increasing search to monetize processes. Technology upstarts, Google is a great example (monetizing every las drop of advertising potential) , and investment bankers (e.g. securitizing mortgages) are all on the same path -- monetize more. Which means taxing those newly monetized processes Taxes exist to raise revenue for gov't functions, to provide a disincentive to activities that have a negative impact on society, and to compensate society for those negative activities. The tobacco tax and the carbon tax (or cap and trade) are examples of the latter two effects. Is motherhood a negative activity? (Some parenting methods may seem so) but to monitize, tax and disincetivize motherhood, parenting, and home building (as in Home, Sweet Home) seems backwards. Tax bad things, not good things. Which brings up labor in general. Should any labor be taxed? Ideally, all necessary revenue for the gov't should be raised by taxes on bad things, not good things. (bad things meaning have a significant bad effect on individuals and society -- and eventually cost real dollars to clean up the mess some years later). By monetizing non-market labor -- e.g. motherhood, is a turned in the wrong direction, in my view. Markets are where things are bought and sold. Things that are too precious to be monetize: human beings (the whole entity -- that is, slavery); sex and affection -- that is, prostitution, are deemed inappropriate for the crass valuation of markets. Why would we want to monetize motherhood? (This does not in any way imply no supporting all enabling resources for individuals and families -- such as health and education.)
[FairfieldLife] Tour Egypt with Shamans
From a friend. Contact Paul if interested. From: paul simdars [mailto:psimd...@lisco.com] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:05 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Subject: Vacation In a recent email, a friend asked me : Hey, on another note, do you know anyone who would like to go to Egypt on a tour with Peruvian Shamans? My best friends, Mallku and Alanna Aribalo, real shamans from Peru who also practice TM, are taking a group at the end of April to Egypt. Their feeling is that the ancient Egyptian knowledge bringers and the Incans were connected. By bringing the best of both ancient worlds together again, peace and harmony will once more awaken. If you're interested, I'll put you in contact. I'm too poor but some of you yuppie types may need to find things to do with all your extra money . . . .
[FairfieldLife] Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company In Fairfield, Iowa [2 Attachments]
IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and The Holding Company in Fairfield, Iowa on Thursday the 15th of April at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center. On Thursday the 15th of April, Simple Man Enterprises Presents Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company, with BMA nominee, Blusion artist, Eddie Devilboy Turner at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center in Fairfield, Iowa. Tickets are $22 in advanced, with a percentage of the proceeds going to the SME music scholarship fund for area high school students. Last years scholarship was given to Andrew Powers of Fort Madison, Ia. The doors open at 6:30pm and the show starts at 7:30pm. This is a one time show and tickets are limited. Big Brother and The Holding Company( www.bbhc.com/ )are primarily remembered as the group that gave Janis Joplin her start. But Big Brother also occupies a significant place in the history of San Francisco psychedelic rock, as one of the bands that best captured the era's loosest, reckless, and indulgent qualities in its high-energy mutations of blues and folk-rock. Big Brother was formed in 1965 in the Haight-Ashbury; by the time Joplin joined in mid-1966, the lineup was and still is(with the exception of the late James Gurley, who just passed away in December), Sam Andrew and James Gurley on guitar, Peter Albin on bass, and David Getz on drums. BBHC currently tours with a new guitar player and talented female vocalist. Big Brother catapulted themselves into national attention with their performance at the Monterey Pop Festival in June 1967, particularly with Joplin's galvanizing interpretation of Ball and Chain (which was a highlight of the film of the event). High-powered management and record label bids rolled in immediately, but unfortunately the group had tied themselves up in a bad contract with the small Mainstream label, at a time where they were stranded on the road and needed cash. Their one Mainstream album (released in 1967), contains some of their stronger cuts, such as Down on Me and Coo Coo. It didn't fully capture the band's strengths, and with the help of new high-powered manager Albert Grossman (also handler of Bob Dylan, The Band and Peter, Paul Mary), they extricated themselves from the Mainstream deal and signed with Columbia. The Big Brother album for Columbia that featured Joplin, Cheap Thrills (1968), Celebrated its 40th Anniversary 2 years ago. It was assembled from both studio sessions and live material. Cheap Thrills went to number one when it was finally released, and though it too was an erratic affair, it contained some of the best moments of acid rock's glory days, including Ball and Chain, Summertime, Combination of the Two, and Piece of My Heart. Cheap Thrills made Big Brother superstars. By the end of 1968, Joplin had decided to go solo, a move from which neither she nor Big Brother ever fully recovered. Big Brother and the Holding Company still tour today on rare occasions and they bring with them an extremely talented female vocalist, who never lets you forget who Big Brother and the Holding Company are. Also filling the bill, is national Blusion recording artists(Northern Blues Records) and Blues Music Award nominee, Eddie Devilboy Turner( www.eddiedevilboy.com http://www.eddiedevilboy.com/ ). If you're seeking a guitar player that can channel the spirit of Jimi Hendrix then look no further than Eddie Turner. If anybody ever went down to the Crossroads and let the Devil tune his guitar it was probably Eddie Turner. Man, you get chills every time the guy strikes a note! And the expressions he makes while he's talking out each lick leave one convinced he's channelling other-worldly ancestral demi-gods. “Otherworldly”, “scorching”, “polyrhythmic” and “chilling” have all been used to describe Eddie Turner’s guitar playing. His ethereal style is an amalgam of the Afro-Cuban rhythms of his heritage and the music that influenced him as a teenager: Chicago blues, jazz, rb and psychedelic rock. The Cuban-born singer/guitarist cut his teeth in several rock bands contributing what Slate magazine describes as “spacey-yet-resounding solos.” He emerged for the first time as his own bandleader on Rise, which arrived at stores in February, 2005. Eddie “devilboy Turner picked up his first guitar, a candy apple multi-pickup Japanese Tiesco, when he was twelve. Raised in Chicago, he moved to the Rockies in the early 70's to attend the University of Colorado; “a ruse,” he says, “to get my parents to keep sending checks.” More inspired by music than by academia, Turner immersed himself in the local scene, and stints with some notable acts ensued. He played in the region’s first punk/rb band The Immortal Nightflames, then with Grammy nominees Tracy Nelson, Mother Earth, and the 4-nikators, a group which has become legendary for its unique mix of soul, Motown, and rock. Turner got
[FairfieldLife] Omnipresence
The one power that GOD is lacking MAHARISHI: ...GOD never comes down (to earth), because He can`t descend, it is beyond his capacity to be less than almighty. Coming down means, He should become less than almighty and He just can`t. Omnipresent is omnipresent - it can`t detach itself from here or there or there. This one power He lacks, that He can`t detach himself from us (laughs). GOD the Almighty has not got that one power - even if He wishes, He can`t take himself away from us. Question: Guru Dev always used to repeat that: The one thing the Almighty fails is that He cannot separate himself from us`. MAHARISHI: Yes, Guru Dev used to say - even if He wants, He can`t. Because if He separates, if He succeeds in doing so, then He ceases to be almighty and He ceases to be GOD and He ceases to be omnipresent. And that He can`t do... Kumbha Mela, 1966 (audio 9/9)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: What we have and are increasingly getting is cronyistic elitist statism -- which has NOTHING to do with free markets, particularly free markets at the at the mom and pop micro level. Right on! I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Its a breakthrough position, in my view - Thanks for the book tip. I just put it on hold at my local socialist library! Guys like this are IMO, the true spiritual leaders of the world. He and his message are quite amazing. The book starts with Bangladesh (his birth place) claiming its own nationhood and his part of the struggle to free from Pakistan -- which is interesting and inspiring. And goes on to his from scratch, sustained effort, to lend small amounts of capital (yes capital, its not a dirty word) to gut wrenching poor -- mostly women. And the success and transformation of the lowest (economically) 10% of the world. He is quite the deeply felt advocate for the world's poor. And he is scathing regarding traditional banks, businesses, government programs. He is no mouthpiece for the power-elites. Yet he firmly comes out in favor of market-based, small business and job creation as the solution to world poverty NOT most government programs. Very pro NGO, very anti World Development Bank / IMF. While there are some critiques of micro-finance, some valid, some perhaps not so much, this heart in this guy is huge and very inspirational. (And he is Muslim -- which is an interesting side story -- given the sometimes rabid press and invective thrown at Muslims.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1 I understand that you are linking his themes with the Maharishi quote Nabby. But I see it a little differently. It isn't capitalism that Patel is targeting as much as free market dominant capitalism. All markets have a continuum of regulation and freedom. One of our biggest problems in the US is that our system of regulations is corrupted by special interest corporate lobbying. This allows some of our biggest corporations to act in a way that doesn't serve the public good and can even cause disasters like our credit markets. And yet the incentives created by freedom in markets are a fantastic way to get people moving, to create systems of profit that can end up benefiting society through job creation. Excellent distinction. There is a tendency (or thinking below our full potential) to generalize Captitalism (or is it Kapitalism,) with all markets. Often there is actually little corellation. What we have and are increasingly getting is cronyistic elitist statism -- which has NOTHING to do with free markets, particularly free markets at the at the mom and pop micro level. I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Its a breakthrough position, in my view -- giving copious red meat (ok red lentils) to both the right and left (a defunct set of terms, in my view - how can politics and world view, world and individual solutions be limited to one dimension?) Ending world poverty by enabling the 10% of the population to create and grow their open businesses -- getting out from under the hand of exploitative statist mini-Kapitalists who control local politics and markets (an oxymoron -- who control controlled transactions among unfree participants)and enabling the disadvantaged to creatie wealth, dignity, skill base, and a much more textured and robust economy. And then once again regulations assist so that an employer doesn't exploit workers, which has not worked in all of our industries but has helped in some. Looking at working conditions at the turn of the last century we can see that some progress have been made. For example we become shortsighted when we don't include our illegal alien workforce in our agro-business essentially thinking of them as not humans that we need to care about because they are not legally Americans. But we participate in the exploitation by buying food that is artificially cheap with no regard to the lives we are crushing with our food system. The same is true of our addiction to cheep clothes and other products made by countries with no worker protections. I believe that capitalism itself is not the problem but the way we
[FairfieldLife] Re: The word socialist: be afraid, be very, very afraid.
Curtis: He was able to start up a business and then not pay taxes because of the designation educational... Apparently 'Maharishi Ayer-Veda' is a business that pays U.S. taxes. The school, MUM, being an education institution, does not pay taxes. In my view we need to be able to tax religions and spiritual groups like everyone else. So, you're in favor of changing the U.S. Constitution. How is that going to fly? The movement's non profit educational organization status seems dubious to me but they pulled it off. So, you're in favor of schools paying taxes. If so, then parents would have to pay tuition for their kids to go to public school? We already pay property taxes for education! But Maharishi for all his posturing was a big fan and beneficiary of capitalism. He was just not a fan of freedom for others. The Vedic religion, which the Maharishi espoused, was founded on 'capitalism' - private ownership of cattle. It may be that the Maharishi misunderstood his own tradition, but the Vedic-Aryans who entered India were egalitarian and republican in their social outlook. This was the age before the adoption of monarchy in India.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Darrell Scott - River Take Me
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: You can't not like this . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDdQHbTLTc Wow, I've never heard of him and now I want to hear everything he has done! Thanks for turning me on to him.
[FairfieldLife] The Rachel Maddow Show - Best. Graph. Ever
Consider three bills -- two of them passed under budget reconciliation, the third heading for budget reconciliation. Each had an effect on the fiscal health of the nation, calculated by the Congressional Budget Office. The first two, the tax cuts pushed by President George W. Bush, blew a hole in the budget. The third, the Senate's health reform bill? As you can see from the CBO projection, that's a different story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#35698968 . [Best Graph Ever (Modified)] http://www.flickr.com/photos/therachelmaddowshow/4407203486/ Link to graph: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4407203486_9cd4a3a587.jpg - - - Frank Rich joins Rachel to discuss GOP popularity and how Teabaggers are splitting the conservative vote to the benefit of Democrats Watch: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#35698968
[FairfieldLife] Financial Scam - Beware
From a friend: Rick, You may want to forward this to any friends who might be tempted into this scam. Thanks, Sharon -- Forwarded Message From: Bart Walton bartwal...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:16:05 -0800 To: Bart Walton bartwal...@hotmail.com Subject: Financial Scam - Beware If you are asked to contribute to a financial trading platform, ultimately to be used for the benefit of the T.M. Movement, don't get involved. I've been told from a reliable source that this is a scam. The meditators involved in the fund raising are sincere and honest. But the next tier of operators are scam artists and the money is going into a black hole. Beware! If you want to donate to the Movement, please make your contributions directly to MUM, your local center or some other branch of the Movement directly. But not through anyone involved in a mysterious financial deal that promises huge returns. Thank you, BW
Re: [FairfieldLife] Financial Scam - Beware
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From a friend: Rick, You may want to forward this to any friends who might be tempted into this scam. Thanks, Sharon -- Forwarded Message *From: *Bart Walton bartwal...@hotmail.com *Date: *Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:16:05 -0800 *To: *Bart Walton bartwal...@hotmail.com *Subject: *Financial Scam - Beware If you are asked to contribute to a financial trading platform, ultimately to be used for the benefit of the T.M. Movement, don't get involved. I've been told from a reliable source that this is a scam. The meditators involved in the fund raising are sincere and honest. But the next tier of operators are scam artists and the money is going into a black hole. Beware! If you want to donate to the Movement, please make your contributions directly to MUM, your local center or some other branch of the Movement directly. But not through anyone involved in a mysterious financial deal that promises huge returns. Thank you, BW I can see! I can see! Lordy, Lordy, Hallelujah I can see! Contributing money to a trading platform to benefit the TMO is putting money into a black hole. Contributing directly to MUM, my local center (which doesn't exist) or some other branch of the Movement directly is not putting money into a black hole. All the money goes for education and God's Good Works and there's total transparency and accountability. I can see! I can see! Lordy, Lordy, Hallelujah I can see! Thanks, Rick. I needed that.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Oscar Picks
TurquoiseB wrote: For those who are interested, here's a link to the IMDB users' poll results -- who film freaks think will win the major awards in Sunday's party. IMDB users tend to be pretty savvy, and I agree with pretty much all of their picks here except one. Given all the behind-the-scenes machinations and posturing re The Hurt Locker (rumors of a system- atic smear campaign against it, and then when its producer sent an email to Academy Members urging them to ignore the smear campaign, banning him from the ceremony), I think that Best Director might very well go to Kathryn Bigelow. I think that Avatar is still going to win for Best Picture, though. http://www.imdb.com/features/rto/2010/poll/oscarpoll-results Personally I think that Up In The Air should beat out District 9 for Best Adapted Screenplay, but that's about the only possible surprise of the night. Avatar is pretty much a lock for Best Pic, and the others have popular appeal going for them. I never watch these awards shows or maybe just a few minutes of them. They seem like extended high school graduation ceremonies. The Oscars are more about the financials than art.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Stampede in an Indian Temple
I would say he must have claimed to be a renunciate. Otherwise his followers wouldn't have given a damn about any sexual encounters. Better to be a householder tantric and not a phony holy man. lurkernomore20002000 wrote: I feel pretty sorry for the guy. His sexual activity I am sure made him a better guru. Did he claim to be celibate? If he did, then it's on him. If not, it's on his followers. YMMV And of course even more relevant to FFL if you drop over to Guruphiliac you'll find a couple of Indian news videos of Swami Nithyananda being caught in bed with a Tamil actress and the violent protests that followed at his ashram. http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1 I understand that you are linking his themes with the Maharishi quote Nabby. But I see it a little differently. It isn't capitalism that Patel is targeting as much as free market dominant capitalism. All markets have a continuum of regulation and freedom. One of our biggest problems in the US is that our system of regulations is corrupted by special interest corporate lobbying. This allows some of our biggest corporations to act in a way that doesn't serve the public good and can even cause disasters like our credit markets. And yet the incentives created by freedom in markets are a fantastic way to get people moving, to create systems of profit that can end up benefiting society through job creation. Excellent distinction. There is a tendency (or thinking below our full potential) to generalize Captitalism (or is it Kapitalism,) with all markets. Often there is actually little corellation. What we have and are increasingly getting is cronyistic elitist statism -- which has NOTHING to do with free markets, particularly free markets at the at the mom and pop micro level. I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Its a breakthrough position, in my view -- giving copious red meat (ok red lentils) to both the right and left (a defunct set of terms, in my view - how can politics and world view, world and individual solutions be limited to one dimension?) Ending world poverty by enabling the 10% of the population to create and grow their open businesses -- getting out from under the hand of exploitative statist mini-Kapitalists who control local politics and markets (an oxymoron -- who control controlled transactions among unfree participants)and enabling the disadvantaged to creatie wealth, dignity, skill base, and a much more textured and robust economy. And then once again regulations assist so that an employer doesn't exploit workers, which has not worked in all of our industries but has helped in some. Looking at working conditions at the turn of the last century we can see that some progress have been made. There was a lot of this kind of writing back in the 1970s. Remember Small is Beautiful and Human Scale? I also read a lot of different economic books back then in Paul Erdman's economic thrillers where he explained economics through the medium of a novel. Too bad he didn't live to see the fiasco that's going on now. As I've mentioned here before I really don't think anyone can really manage a large corporation and those doing so are putting on a charade (sort of illustrated in the movie The Informant.). I think the economy will collapse so bad that we indeed will be truly left a nation of villages where about everything is locally produced by local small businesses. You can do a lot of things that way including manufacturing electronics and small cars. Do note that people expect the government to create jobs. Why not charge the government with creating small businesses. Oh no, that might interfere with the operations of the mega corporations. I also maintain there should have been no bailout of the banks in 2008 and the ensuing collapse would have created a short economic depression much less painful than the one we may suffer for decades. The collapse would have hastened the small business scenario.
[FairfieldLife] Shields Down! Earth's Magnetic Field May Drop In A Flash
SHIELDS DOWN! EARTH'S MAG FIELD MAY DROP IN A FLASH New Scientist March 4, 2010 http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20527504.400-shields-down-earths-mag-f ield-may-drop-in-a-flash.html Even if we knew precise details of Earth's core, we would not be able to predict a catastrophic flip in the polarity of its magnetic field more than a decade or two ahead. Our planet's magnetic field has reversed polarity from time to time throughout its history. Some models suggest that a flip would be completed in a year or two, but if, as others predict, it lasted decades or longer we would be left exposed to space radiation. This could short-circuit satellites, pose a risk to aircraft passengers and play havoc with electrical equipment on the ground. To test whether we would see a flip coming, Gauthier Hulot of Denis Diderot University in Paris, France, and colleagues ran computer simulations of Earth's magnetic dynamo based on a range of plausible values for inputs such as the viscosity, electrical and thermal conductivity of the outer core, and the temperature difference across it. The model's predictions remained consistent over this range of values for no more than a few decades, Hulot's team will report in Geophysical Research Letters. Their result implies that we can forecast a flip only this far in advance -- and then only with data that is as precise as possible. It's like predicting the weather, says Hulot. The last polarity switch was around 800,000 years ago. Over the past few decades, the magnetic field has weakened rapidly enough to flip within a few thousand years, but this could also be part of a more limited variation. PREVIOUS NHNE NEWS LIST ARTICLES: THE EARTH'S PROTECTIVE MAGNETIC FIELD IS CHANGING (8/18/2008): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/14778 EARTH'S CORE, MAGNETIC FIELD CHANGING FAST (7/6/2007): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/14643 THE DAY THE EARTH FELL OVER (9/15/2006): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/11857 SCI FI CHANNEL: COUNTDOWN TO DOOMSDAY (6/11/2006): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/11369 EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD FLIPS QUICKLY (4/9/2004): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/7055 NOVA'S 'MAGNETIC STORM' (11/28/2003): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/6322 The Earth's Collapsing Magnetic Field (8/9/2003): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/5772 MORE ON THE EARTH'S FLIPPING MAGNETIC POLES (11/14/2002): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/3950 SUN'S RAYS TO ROAST EARTH AS POLES FLIP (11/13/2002): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/3948 EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD ABOUT TO FLIP? (7/8/2002): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/3376 GIANT NUKE MAY RUN EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD (6/22/2002): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/3294 EARTH'S MAGNETIC POLES MAY BE STARTING TO FLIP (4/12/2002): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/2990 NHNE Wavemaker News List: Send Some Green Love To NHNE: http://www.nhne.org/DONATE/tabid/398/Default.aspx To subscribe, send a message to: nhnenews-subscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:nhnenews-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com To unsubscribe, send a message to: nhnenews-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com mailto:nhnenews-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com To review current posts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/messages http://www.nhne.org/tabid/1044/Default.aspx NHNE's Mother Ship: http://www.nhne.org/ NHNE on Facebook: http://bit.ly/afCLPo NHNE Pulse: http://nhne-pulse.org/ Integral NHNE: http://integralnhne.ning.com/ Published by David Sunfellow NewHeavenNewEarth (NHNE) eMail: n...@nhne.org mailto:nhne%40nhne.org Phone: (928) 257-3200 Fax: (815) 642-0117 P.O. Box 2242 Sedona, AZ 86339
[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Scam - Beware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From a friend: Rick, You may want to forward this to any friends who might be tempted into this scam. Thanks, Sharon -- Forwarded Message From: Bart Walton bartwal...@... Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:16:05 -0800 To: Bart Walton bartwal...@... Subject: Financial Scam - Beware If you are asked to contribute to a financial trading platform, ultimately to be used for the benefit of the T.M. Movement, don't get involved. I've been told from a reliable source that this is a scam. The meditators involved in the fund raising are sincere and honest. But the next tier of operators are scam artists and the money is going into a black hole. Beware! If you want to donate to the Movement, please make your contributions directly to MUM, your local center or some other branch of the Movement directly. But not through anyone involved in a mysterious financial deal that promises huge returns. Thank you, BW Yes. Write your check directly to Girish Varma and rest assured it will go directly to Movement activities.
[FairfieldLife] Jon Stewart: GOP Back-Up Plan To Stop Health Care -- The Rapture
Watch: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-march-4-2010/the-med-menace
[FairfieldLife] White, American right wing terrorists are Freedom Fighters... right?
[600] Link to cartoon: http://snipurl.com/unifn [media_mcclatchydc_com]
[FairfieldLife] What do beached whales and global warming have in common?
Both phenomenon occurred long before man started polluting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beached_whale#Natural
[FairfieldLife] White, American right wing terrorists are Freedom Fighters... right?
[600] Link to cartoon: http://snipurl.com/unifn [media_mcclatchydc_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company In Fairfield, Iowa
I wonder how many of the original members are in this 2010 version. Of the 5 original Beachboys, how many beside Mike Love still tour? Or is it just Mike? At least with The Who you've got 50% of the members still alive (Pete Townsend and Roger Daltry) although, for my money, the group died with Keith Moon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and The Holding Company in Fairfield, Iowa on Thursday the 15th of April at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center. On Thursday the 15th of April, Simple Man Enterprises Presents Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company, with BMA nominee, Blusion artist, Eddie Devilboy Turner at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center in Fairfield, Iowa. Tickets are $22 in advanced, with a percentage of the proceeds going to the SME music scholarship fund for area high school students. Last years scholarship was given to Andrew Powers of Fort Madison, Ia. The doors open at 6:30pm and the show starts at 7:30pm. This is a one time show and tickets are limited. Big Brother and The Holding Company( www.bbhc.com/ )are primarily remembered as the group that gave Janis Joplin her start. But Big Brother also occupies a significant place in the history of San Francisco psychedelic rock, as one of the bands that best captured the era's loosest, reckless, and indulgent qualities in its high-energy mutations of blues and folk-rock. Big Brother was formed in 1965 in the Haight-Ashbury; by the time Joplin joined in mid-1966, the lineup was and still is(with the exception of the late James Gurley, who just passed away in December), Sam Andrew and James Gurley on guitar, Peter Albin on bass, and David Getz on drums. BBHC currently tours with a new guitar player and talented female vocalist. Big Brother catapulted themselves into national attention with their performance at the Monterey Pop Festival in June 1967, particularly with Joplin's galvanizing interpretation of Ball and Chain (which was a highlight of the film of the event). High-powered management and record label bids rolled in immediately, but unfortunately the group had tied themselves up in a bad contract with the small Mainstream label, at a time where they were stranded on the road and needed cash. Their one Mainstream album (released in 1967), contains some of their stronger cuts, such as Down on Me and Coo Coo. It didn't fully capture the band's strengths, and with the help of new high-powered manager Albert Grossman (also handler of Bob Dylan, The Band and Peter, Paul Mary), they extricated themselves from the Mainstream deal and signed with Columbia. The Big Brother album for Columbia that featured Joplin, Cheap Thrills (1968), Celebrated its 40th Anniversary 2 years ago. It was assembled from both studio sessions and live material. Cheap Thrills went to number one when it was finally released, and though it too was an erratic affair, it contained some of the best moments of acid rock's glory days, including Ball and Chain, Summertime, Combination of the Two, and Piece of My Heart. Cheap Thrills made Big Brother superstars. By the end of 1968, Joplin had decided to go solo, a move from which neither she nor Big Brother ever fully recovered. Big Brother and the Holding Company still tour today on rare occasions and they bring with them an extremely talented female vocalist, who never lets you forget who Big Brother and the Holding Company are. Also filling the bill, is national Blusion recording artists(Northern Blues Records) and Blues Music Award nominee, Eddie Devilboy Turner( www.eddiedevilboy.com http://www.eddiedevilboy.com/ ). If you're seeking a guitar player that can channel the spirit of Jimi Hendrix then look no further than Eddie Turner. If anybody ever went down to the Crossroads and let the Devil tune his guitar it was probably Eddie Turner. Man, you get chills every time the guy strikes a note! And the expressions he makes while he's talking out each lick leave one convinced he's channelling other-worldly ancestral demi-gods. âOtherworldlyâ, âscorchingâ, âpolyrhythmicâ and âchillingâ have all been used to describe Eddie Turnerâs guitar playing. His ethereal style is an amalgam of the Afro-Cuban rhythms of his heritage and the music that influenced him as a teenager: Chicago blues, jazz, rb and psychedelic rock. The Cuban-born singer/guitarist cut his teeth in several rock bands contributing what Slate magazine describes as âspacey-yet-resounding solos.â He emerged for the first time as his own bandleader on Rise, which arrived at stores in February, 2005. Eddie âdevilboy Turner picked up his first guitar, a candy apple multi-pickup Japanese Tiesco, when he was twelve. Raised in Chicago, he moved to the Rockies in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Scam - Beware
You beat me to the punch Shemp! The supreme irony of that post can't be missed on many. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend: Rick, You may want to forward this to any friends who might be tempted into this scam. Thanks, Sharon -- Forwarded Message From: Bart Walton bartwalton@ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:16:05 -0800 To: Bart Walton bartwalton@ Subject: Financial Scam - Beware If you are asked to contribute to a financial trading platform, ultimately to be used for the benefit of the T.M. Movement, don't get involved. I've been told from a reliable source that this is a scam. The meditators involved in the fund raising are sincere and honest. But the next tier of operators are scam artists and the money is going into a black hole. Beware! If you want to donate to the Movement, please make your contributions directly to MUM, your local center or some other branch of the Movement directly. But not through anyone involved in a mysterious financial deal that promises huge returns. Thank you, BW Yes. Write your check directly to Girish Varma and rest assured it will go directly to Movement activities.
[FairfieldLife] Eight BRILLIANT videos debunking climate change skepticism
Anyone who wants to have a serious discussion dinner-table type about climate change with someone who doubts anthropogenic climate change should watch these videos. They are as thorough as YouTube videos can get for a general audience. Each video is about seven to ten minutes in length. Scroll down for videos: http://snipurl.com/unitp [www_dailykos_com]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company In Fairfield, Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote: I wonder how many of the original members are in this 2010 version. When we were at MIU remember the rumor that Susy Levin had sung with Big Brother before Janis? Of the 5 original Beachboys, how many beside Mike Love still tour? Or is it just Mike? At least with The Who you've got 50% of the members still alive (Pete Townsend and Roger Daltry) although, for my money, the group died with Keith Moon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and The Holding Company in Fairfield, Iowa on Thursday the 15th of April at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center. On Thursday the 15th of April, Simple Man Enterprises Presents Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company, with BMA nominee, Blusion artist, Eddie Devilboy Turner at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center in Fairfield, Iowa. Tickets are $22 in advanced, with a percentage of the proceeds going to the SME music scholarship fund for area high school students. Last years scholarship was given to Andrew Powers of Fort Madison, Ia. The doors open at 6:30pm and the show starts at 7:30pm. This is a one time show and tickets are limited. Big Brother and The Holding Company( www.bbhc.com/ )are primarily remembered as the group that gave Janis Joplin her start. But Big Brother also occupies a significant place in the history of San Francisco psychedelic rock, as one of the bands that best captured the era's loosest, reckless, and indulgent qualities in its high-energy mutations of blues and folk-rock. Big Brother was formed in 1965 in the Haight-Ashbury; by the time Joplin joined in mid-1966, the lineup was and still is(with the exception of the late James Gurley, who just passed away in December), Sam Andrew and James Gurley on guitar, Peter Albin on bass, and David Getz on drums. BBHC currently tours with a new guitar player and talented female vocalist. Big Brother catapulted themselves into national attention with their performance at the Monterey Pop Festival in June 1967, particularly with Joplin's galvanizing interpretation of Ball and Chain (which was a highlight of the film of the event). High-powered management and record label bids rolled in immediately, but unfortunately the group had tied themselves up in a bad contract with the small Mainstream label, at a time where they were stranded on the road and needed cash. Their one Mainstream album (released in 1967), contains some of their stronger cuts, such as Down on Me and Coo Coo. It didn't fully capture the band's strengths, and with the help of new high-powered manager Albert Grossman (also handler of Bob Dylan, The Band and Peter, Paul Mary), they extricated themselves from the Mainstream deal and signed with Columbia. The Big Brother album for Columbia that featured Joplin, Cheap Thrills (1968), Celebrated its 40th Anniversary 2 years ago. It was assembled from both studio sessions and live material. Cheap Thrills went to number one when it was finally released, and though it too was an erratic affair, it contained some of the best moments of acid rock's glory days, including Ball and Chain, Summertime, Combination of the Two, and Piece of My Heart. Cheap Thrills made Big Brother superstars. By the end of 1968, Joplin had decided to go solo, a move from which neither she nor Big Brother ever fully recovered. Big Brother and the Holding Company still tour today on rare occasions and they bring with them an extremely talented female vocalist, who never lets you forget who Big Brother and the Holding Company are. Also filling the bill, is national Blusion recording artists(Northern Blues Records) and Blues Music Award nominee, Eddie Devilboy Turner( www.eddiedevilboy.com http://www.eddiedevilboy.com/ ). If you're seeking a guitar player that can channel the spirit of Jimi Hendrix then look no further than Eddie Turner. If anybody ever went down to the Crossroads and let the Devil tune his guitar it was probably Eddie Turner. Man, you get chills every time the guy strikes a note! And the expressions he makes while he's talking out each lick leave one convinced he's channelling other-worldly ancestral demi-gods. âOtherworldlyâ, âscorchingâ, âpolyrhythmicâ and âchillingâ have all been used to describe Eddie Turnerâs guitar playing. His ethereal style is an amalgam of the Afro-Cuban rhythms of his heritage and the music that influenced him as a teenager: Chicago blues, jazz, rb and psychedelic rock. The Cuban-born singer/guitarist cut his teeth in several rock bands contributing what Slate magazine describes as âspacey-yet-resounding solos.â He emerged
[FairfieldLife] Re: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company In Fairfield, Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I wonder how many of the original members are in this 2010 version. When we were at MIU remember the rumor that Susy Levin had sung with Big Brother before Janis? No, I don't...but it's a great one. I do remember you playing the harmonica, though. Of the 5 original Beachboys, how many beside Mike Love still tour? Or is it just Mike? At least with The Who you've got 50% of the members still alive (Pete Townsend and Roger Daltry) although, for my money, the group died with Keith Moon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and The Holding Company in Fairfield, Iowa on Thursday the 15th of April at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center. On Thursday the 15th of April, Simple Man Enterprises Presents Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company, with BMA nominee, Blusion artist, Eddie Devilboy Turner at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center in Fairfield, Iowa. Tickets are $22 in advanced, with a percentage of the proceeds going to the SME music scholarship fund for area high school students. Last years scholarship was given to Andrew Powers of Fort Madison, Ia. The doors open at 6:30pm and the show starts at 7:30pm. This is a one time show and tickets are limited. Big Brother and The Holding Company( www.bbhc.com/ )are primarily remembered as the group that gave Janis Joplin her start. But Big Brother also occupies a significant place in the history of San Francisco psychedelic rock, as one of the bands that best captured the era's loosest, reckless, and indulgent qualities in its high-energy mutations of blues and folk-rock. Big Brother was formed in 1965 in the Haight-Ashbury; by the time Joplin joined in mid-1966, the lineup was and still is(with the exception of the late James Gurley, who just passed away in December), Sam Andrew and James Gurley on guitar, Peter Albin on bass, and David Getz on drums. BBHC currently tours with a new guitar player and talented female vocalist. Big Brother catapulted themselves into national attention with their performance at the Monterey Pop Festival in June 1967, particularly with Joplin's galvanizing interpretation of Ball and Chain (which was a highlight of the film of the event). High-powered management and record label bids rolled in immediately, but unfortunately the group had tied themselves up in a bad contract with the small Mainstream label, at a time where they were stranded on the road and needed cash. Their one Mainstream album (released in 1967), contains some of their stronger cuts, such as Down on Me and Coo Coo. It didn't fully capture the band's strengths, and with the help of new high-powered manager Albert Grossman (also handler of Bob Dylan, The Band and Peter, Paul Mary), they extricated themselves from the Mainstream deal and signed with Columbia. The Big Brother album for Columbia that featured Joplin, Cheap Thrills (1968), Celebrated its 40th Anniversary 2 years ago. It was assembled from both studio sessions and live material. Cheap Thrills went to number one when it was finally released, and though it too was an erratic affair, it contained some of the best moments of acid rock's glory days, including Ball and Chain, Summertime, Combination of the Two, and Piece of My Heart. Cheap Thrills made Big Brother superstars. By the end of 1968, Joplin had decided to go solo, a move from which neither she nor Big Brother ever fully recovered. Big Brother and the Holding Company still tour today on rare occasions and they bring with them an extremely talented female vocalist, who never lets you forget who Big Brother and the Holding Company are. Also filling the bill, is national Blusion recording artists(Northern Blues Records) and Blues Music Award nominee, Eddie Devilboy Turner( www.eddiedevilboy.com http://www.eddiedevilboy.com/ ). If you're seeking a guitar player that can channel the spirit of Jimi Hendrix then look no further than Eddie Turner. If anybody ever went down to the Crossroads and let the Devil tune his guitar it was probably Eddie Turner. Man, you get chills every time the guy strikes a note! And the expressions he makes while he's talking out each lick leave one convinced he's channelling other-worldly ancestral demi-gods. âOtherworldlyâ, âscorchingâ, âpolyrhythmicâ and âchillingâ have all been used to describe Eddie Turnerâs guitar playing. His ethereal style is an amalgam of the Afro-Cuban rhythms of
[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Scam - Beware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: You beat me to the punch Shemp! The supreme irony of that post can't be missed on many. I have to agree with both of you. I literally snorted milk through my nose when I read it. :-) And yes, milk. I must be getting old. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From a friend: Rick, You may want to forward this to any friends who might be tempted into this scam. Thanks, Sharon -- Forwarded Message From: Bart Walton bartwalton@ Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 19:16:05 -0800 To: Bart Walton bartwalton@ Subject: Financial Scam - Beware If you are asked to contribute to a financial trading platform, ultimately to be used for the benefit of the T.M. Movement, don't get involved. I've been told from a reliable source that this is a scam. The meditators involved in the fund raising are sincere and honest. But the next tier of operators are scam artists and the money is going into a black hole. Beware! If you want to donate to the Movement, please make your contributions directly to MUM, your local center or some other branch of the Movement directly. But not through anyone involved in a mysterious financial deal that promises huge returns. Thank you, BW Yes. Write your check directly to Girish Varma and rest assured it will go directly to Movement activities.
[FairfieldLife] YouTube - The Loading Zone plays The Seventh Son
Paul Fauerso band reunion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company In Fairfield, Iowa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I wonder how many of the original members are in this 2010 version. When we were at MIU remember the rumor that Susy Levin had sung with Big Brother before Janis? I have to admit to having only the haziest of recollections of who Susy Levin is, but that haziness suggests to me that the rumors may have been in jest. :-) I also have to admit that, having seen Big Brother with Janis many times back in the early days, my first thought was the same as Shemp's. Enough so that I went to their website to check 'em out. I didn't get far into it, but it appears as if only one of them has journeyed to that big Summertime in the sky. Which surprises me, because the scuttlebutt in the crowd I used to hang with was that the Big Brother guys were serious meth freaks. WAY gone. I don't know whether this is true, but I can personally attest that They Played Games That Should Have Been Called On Account Of Drugs. WAY gone. That said, would I go to see them if I were in Fairfield? First in line, dude. For me it would be a kind of weird Reality Check. I mean, if these guys I thought were remedial stoners back during the Summer Of Love while I thought that *I* had it together turned out better than I did, what does that say, eh? They're still touring, and still making their livings from music. I bailed from even the peripheries of the music scene before the 70's, and they're still hangin' in there. Good on them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Reminder: Spiritual Adventures in India: Fairfield Quiet Zone Fundraiser
Thanks all who attended last night...it was a great talk and we raised $905. $405 in cash and $500 in pledges to support the Fairfield Quiet Zone. A great start to this last leg to raise the funds needed. To those who say they like the train noise, please note that 73% of those surveyed in Ames said the train whistle was too loud before their Quiet Zone system was installed...and 4% after it was installed see... http://www.iowadot.gov/trainhornstudy.htm --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickm...@... wrote: Fwd from: Brian Horsfield horsfi...@... Just a reminder... The Fairfield Quiet Zone invites you to an inspiring talk: Spiritual Adventures in India by author Steve Briggs Fairfield Public Library Thursday 4th March, 7.30 pm Suggested $5 donation at the door to support the Fairfield Quiet Zone ? Just a reminder... The Fairfield Quiet Zone invites you to an inspiring talk: Spiritual Adventures in India by author Steve Briggs Fairfield Public Library Thursday 4th March, 7.30 pm Suggested $5 donation at the door to support the Fairfield Quiet Zone
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Loading Zone plays The Seventh Son
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Paul Fauerso band reunion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ Boy, did THAT top off an already-superlative day! Nothing but wins today. One for the record books. And then, on top of it, comes this unexpected gem. Did anyone here ever see the original Loading Zone live? I did, a couple of times. Long before I knew what TM was. And they just knocked my socks off. Oh, that more of the original members could have been lured into this session. Imagine what Linda could have done with Mose Allison's classic. This is a real find, Rick. Thanks for posting it.
[FairfieldLife] Joe or Barry - Linda Davis
Did either of you know Linda Davis back in the day? She used to go with Bob Doane. She was a good friend of my wife's and we've been trying for years to track her down. We heard she worked for Jackson Browne for a while. I wonder if Joe with his music connections would know anyone who knows where she is, or if she's still alive.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Financial Scam - Beware
The meditators involved in the fund raising are sincere and honest. But the next tier of operators are scam artists and the money is going into a black hole. Beware! Got a webpage url? e-mail from any of them?
[FairfieldLife] Anticipation Of Recapitulation
The upshot of today's wins is that I get to go on a Road Trip. Cool. I haven't been on an extended Road Trip in far too long. And the best part of this one is that I get to do a Castanedan recapitulation on part of it. I get to go back to a place where I spent many formative years, a place I thought I might never see again. What fun. Walking the same streets, X number of years on. Seeing them with eyes that have aged and physically grown less sharp but have hopefully grown psychically more sharp with the passage of time. Getting to see what the place is *like* these days, and in doing so getting to see what I am *like* these days. Will I see it differently? Will I see it as essentially the same? Both will tell a story. What fun. Then I get to go to a place I have never been before, except while Driving Through. It's a major city, world- wise, but I've never really done this city. This presents other Road Trip challenges. What fun.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Loading Zone plays The Seventh Son
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Paul Fauerso band reunion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ Boy, did THAT top off an already-superlative day! Nothing but wins today. One for the record books. And then, on top of it, comes this unexpected gem. Did anyone here ever see the original Loading Zone live? I did, a couple of times. Long before I knew what TM was. And they just knocked my socks off. Oh, that more of the original members could have been lured into this session. Imagine what Linda could have done with Mose Allison's classic. This is a real find, Rick. Thanks for posting it. How about that Barry. I did too, in Milwaukee, in a park. The record had just come out and they were on their promotion tour. The band (with Linda Tillery) was killing as I recall.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Joe or Barry - Linda Davis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Did either of you know Linda Davis back in the day? She used to go with Bob Doane. She was a good friend of my wife's and we've been trying for years to track her down. We heard she worked for Jackson Browne for a while. I wonder if Joe with his music connections would know anyone who knows where she is, or if she's still alive. Let me check around...I know some of Jackson's usual sidemen so maybe they can help.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Joe or Barry - Linda Davis
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 3:30 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Joe or Barry - Linda Davis --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Did either of you know Linda Davis back in the day? She used to go with Bob Doane. She was a good friend of my wife's and we've been trying for years to track her down. We heard she worked for Jackson Browne for a while. I wonder if Joe with his music connections would know anyone who knows where she is, or if she's still alive. Let me check around...I know some of Jackson's usual sidemen so maybe they can help. Her maiden name was Blackner so she may be back to that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stampede in an Indian Temple
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: I feel pretty sorry for the guy. His sexual activity I am sure made him a better guru. Did he claim to be celibate? If he did, then it's on him. If not, it's on his followers. YMMV Based on the clips posted by his disciples on YouTube, he is considered to be celebate. He claimed to be enlightened as well. And of course even more relevant to FFL if you drop over to Guruphiliac you'll find a couple of Indian news videos of Swami Nithyananda being caught in bed with a Tamil actress and the violent protests that followed at his ashram. http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Omnipresence
The Vaishnavas might disagree with these statements. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: The one power that GOD is lacking MAHARISHI: ...GOD never comes down (to earth), because He can`t descend, it is beyond his capacity to be less than almighty. Coming down means, He should become less than almighty and He just can`t. Omnipresent is omnipresent - it can`t detach itself from here or there or there. This one power He lacks, that He can`t detach himself from us (laughs). GOD the Almighty has not got that one power - even if He wishes, He can`t take himself away from us. Question: Guru Dev always used to repeat that: The one thing the Almighty fails is that He cannot separate himself from us`. MAHARISHI: Yes, Guru Dev used to say - even if He wants, He can`t. Because if He separates, if He succeeds in doing so, then He ceases to be almighty and He ceases to be GOD and He ceases to be omnipresent. And that He can`t do... Kumbha Mela, 1966 (audio 9/9)
[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:54 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney That was funny. But isn't Rachael Jewish? Wouldn't that mean the State of Israel is Al Quaeda?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Omnipresence
Johnjr: The Vaishnavas might disagree with these statements. Vaishnavas are followers of the Vedanta. All the proponents of the Upanishads are transcendentalists and they all agree that God is the *Transcendental Person*. According to Vaishnavas, Purusha is totally separate from prakriti. GOD never comes down (to earth), because He can`t descend, it is beyond his capacity to be less than almighty...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Anticipation Of Recapitulation
TurquoiseB: What fun... So, you're going back to Sante Fe, NM. Then I get to go to a place I have never been before, Deadwood, SD? The upshot of today's wins is that I get to go on a Road Trip. Cool. I haven't been on an extended Road Trip in far too long. And the best part of this one is that I get to do a Castanedan recapitulation on part of it. I get to go back to a place where I spent many formative years, a place I thought I might never see again. What fun. Walking the same streets, X number of years on. Seeing them with eyes that have aged and physically grown less sharp but have hopefully grown psychically more sharp with the passage of time. Getting to see what the place is *like* these days, and in doing so getting to see what I am *like* these days. Will I see it differently? Will I see it as essentially the same? Both will tell a story. Then I get to go to a place I have never been before, except while Driving Through. It's a major city, world- wise, but I've never really done this city. This presents other Road Trip challenges. What fun.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:54 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney That was funny. But isn't Rachael Jewish? Wouldn't that mean the State of Israel is Al Quaeda? FWIW . . . Q: Is Rachel Maddow Jewish? A: No She is not Jewish. Her Mother is from Canada and is of Irish decent, and her Father of Russian descent. Rachel Maddow was raised as a Catholic. On the January 28, 2010 episode of The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC, Maddow said she was distantly Jewish during an interview with Tracey Ullman. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Rachel_Maddow_Jewish
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
Actually, Maddow is neither of Irish nor Russian heritage. She's Greek. She hails from one of those beautiful islands in the Aegean Sea. The Island of Lesbos, I believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:54 PM, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney That was funny. But isn't Rachael Jewish? Wouldn't that mean the State of Israel is Al Quaeda? FWIW . . . Q: Is Rachel Maddow Jewish? A: No She is not Jewish. Her Mother is from Canada and is of Irish decent, and her Father of Russian descent. Rachel Maddow was raised as a Catholic. On the January 28, 2010 episode of The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC, Maddow said she was distantly Jewish during an interview with Tracey Ullman. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Rachel_Maddow_Jewish
[FairfieldLife] Re: Joe or Barry - Linda Davis
Does anyone remember a Monica Walstrom from MIU in the '70s? Swedish-American art major? Her major complaint was that Maharishi didn't allow any nude models in art class... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Did either of you know Linda Davis back in the day? She used to go with Bob Doane. She was a good friend of my wife's and we've been trying for years to track her down. We heard she worked for Jackson Browne for a while. I wonder if Joe with his music connections would know anyone who knows where she is, or if she's still alive.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company In Fairfie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I wonder how many of the original members are in this 2010 version. When we were at MIU remember the rumor that Susy Levin had sung with Big Brother before Janis? Suzy Levin (now Dillbeck) let her hair down on-stage with a rock band to sing with great voice and incredible stage presence at the wedding reception of Chris Jones and Ellen Abrams in '80 or '81. The woman had great talent as a rock-and -roller. Yeah, she had the chops to have done it at that level - not surprised by the BB H Co. rumor. Of the 5 original Beachboys, how many beside Mike Love still tour? Or is it just Mike? At least with The Who you've got 50% of the members still alive (Pete Townsend and Roger Daltry) although, for my money, the group died with Keith Moon. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE: Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and The Holding Company in Fairfield, Iowa on Thursday the 15th of April at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center. On Thursday the 15th of April, Simple Man Enterprises Presents Janis Joplin's Original Band, Big Brother and the Holding Company, with BMA nominee, Blusion artist, Eddie Devilboy Turner at the Fairfield Arts and Convention Center in Fairfield, Iowa. Tickets are $22 in advanced, with a percentage of the proceeds going to the SME music scholarship fund for area high school students. Last years scholarship was given to Andrew Powers of Fort Madison, Ia. The doors open at 6:30pm and the show starts at 7:30pm. This is a one time show and tickets are limited. Big Brother and The Holding Company( www.bbhc.com/ )are primarily remembered as the group that gave Janis Joplin her start. But Big Brother also occupies a significant place in the history of San Francisco psychedelic rock, as one of the bands that best captured the era's loosest, reckless, and indulgent qualities in its high-energy mutations of blues and folk-rock. Big Brother was formed in 1965 in the Haight-Ashbury; by the time Joplin joined in mid-1966, the lineup was and still is(with the exception of the late James Gurley, who just passed away in December), Sam Andrew and James Gurley on guitar, Peter Albin on bass, and David Getz on drums. BBHC currently tours with a new guitar player and talented female vocalist. Big Brother catapulted themselves into national attention with their performance at the Monterey Pop Festival in June 1967, particularly with Joplin's galvanizing interpretation of Ball and Chain (which was a highlight of the film of the event). High-powered management and record label bids rolled in immediately, but unfortunately the group had tied themselves up in a bad contract with the small Mainstream label, at a time where they were stranded on the road and needed cash. Their one Mainstream album (released in 1967), contains some of their stronger cuts, such as Down on Me and Coo Coo. It didn't fully capture the band's strengths, and with the help of new high-powered manager Albert Grossman (also handler of Bob Dylan, The Band and Peter, Paul Mary), they extricated themselves from the Mainstream deal and signed with Columbia. The Big Brother album for Columbia that featured Joplin, Cheap Thrills (1968), Celebrated its 40th Anniversary 2 years ago. It was assembled from both studio sessions and live material. Cheap Thrills went to number one when it was finally released, and though it too was an erratic affair, it contained some of the best moments of acid rock's glory days, including Ball and Chain, Summertime, Combination of the Two, and Piece of My Heart. Cheap Thrills made Big Brother superstars. By the end of 1968, Joplin had decided to go solo, a move from which neither she nor Big Brother ever fully recovered. Big Brother and the Holding Company still tour today on rare occasions and they bring with them an extremely talented female vocalist, who never lets you forget who Big Brother and the Holding Company are. Also filling the bill, is national Blusion recording artists(Northern Blues Records) and Blues Music Award nominee, Eddie Devilboy Turner( www.eddiedevilboy.com http://www.eddiedevilboy.com/ ). If you're seeking a guitar player that can channel the spirit of Jimi Hendrix then look no further than Eddie Turner. If anybody ever went down to the Crossroads and let the Devil tune his guitar it was probably Eddie Turner. Man, you get chills every time the guy strikes a note! And the expressions he makes while he's talking out each lick leave one convinced he's
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney America is insane. (is Liz Cheney the gay daughter?) OffWorld
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: The irony is that his main theme is that the new capital for the 21st century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is saying that true wealth in the future will come from giving. I understand he is an atheist. No problem there. But one of the last people I recall being so strident in this message, was Jesus H. Christ. Jesus was an Athiest and a Communist. He defied the teachings of the synagogues, and said that he is God, God is you, and we are all together, goo goo ga choob And wanted a socialist/communist system. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney America is insane. (is Liz Cheney the gay daughter?) No, she's the fascist daughter. Mary Cheney is the gay daughter. Her father's single redeeming quality is that he supports Mary and gay marriage generally.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
Very important to know. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ wrote: On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:54 PM, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney That was funny. But isn't Rachael Jewish? Wouldn't that mean the State of Israel is Al Quaeda? FWIW . . . Q: Is Rachel Maddow Jewish? A: No She is not Jewish. Her Mother is from Canada and is of Irish decent, and her Father of Russian descent. Rachel Maddow was raised as a Catholic. On the January 28, 2010 episode of The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC, Maddow said she was distantly Jewish during an interview with Tracey Ullman. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Rachel_Maddow_Jewish
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Given his looks and charisma, I'll bet he gets *lots* of odd and potentially distracting attention, not just from Creme-ites. Hope he can keep a handle on his ego. And I'm a little concerned about his becoming Oprahfied and then dismissed as just another New Age type by the folks who really need to hear what he's saying. He has zero New Age vibe for me. Thing is, the folks who need to hear it most aren't going to want to. They'll look for whatever excuse they can find not to listen, and brushing him off as New Age is as good as any. snip (If I were his publicity person, I'd try to talk him into getting some speech therapy for his stammer when he's speaking extemporaneously. It makes him look unsure of himself, which he clearly is not!) I think that is his Hugh Grant move. Hot guys like that need to have imperfections so they seem approachable. Or so I've heard... Disagree. He doesn't do it when he's reciting a script, as in his book trailer. If it were a move, he'd have found a way to work it in. Plenty of interesting stuff on his Web site: http://rajpatel.org/ Yeah look at his number one hidden cost item: #1 Women's work The world wouldn't turn without the work of raising children, and caring for family and community. But it's the work that is most often and quite literally taken for granted. If the work that women did were to be paid, how much would it cost? Researchers put it at $11 trillion in 1995, or half the world's total output. Movements demanding a basic income grant are laying the foundations for this new way of working and living. Valuing women's work would, more than any other single thing, transform the way we think about our economy and society. Obviously I'm in favor of valuing the work women do, but I'm not real fond of the phrase women's work. By far the majority of the work to be done can be done by either sex, so I'm wary of perpetuating the traditional categorizations. That's an attitude that needs to change before there can be real transformation. (Although maybe if women were paid well enough for women's work, men would stop feeling those kinds of work were beneath them and want to get in on the action.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip This is the guy some of Creme's followers think is Maitreya, right? I never thought of Mr Creme as having followers in the traditional sense. Creme is an inspirator, a seer, a very nice and sweet fellow, a Scotsman with a great sense of humour and humility. Not sure what to call these folks, then... I am certainly not fueling the speculations of who Maitreya might be in my postings of Raj Patel. No, I know, you were quite clear about that earlier. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. I can see why some would be, though. He's quite an appealing possibility.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Loading Zone plays The Seventh Son
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Paul Fauerso band reunion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ Very nice. Thanks for posting this !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Reminder: Spiritual Adventures in India: Fairfield Quiet Zone Fundraiser
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brian64705 no_re...@... wrote: Thanks all who attended last night...it was a great talk and we raised $905. $405 in cash and $500 in pledges to support the Fairfield Quiet Zone. A great start to this last leg to raise the funds needed. To those who say they like the train noise, please note that 73% of those surveyed in Ames said the train whistle was too loud before their Quiet Zone system was installed...and 4% after it was installed see... http://www.iowadot.gov/trainhornstudy.htm Very, very nice Brian. I applaude you and your initiative !
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: snip I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Such a fabulous concept. I gave a small chunk of money to the microloan organization Kiva via the Web a couple of years ago, and it's been one of my most satisfying donations, because it keeps *renewing* itself. You choose folks to lend to from a list, and as the borrowers pay back their loans, the funds become available again for new loans. To the donor, it feels as if you're donating over and over again even though you aren't. (Of course, you can always increase the amount you give Kiva to work with.) Point being, there's a huge psychological satisfaction component to this arrangement that you don't get with many other donations, which from your end just seem to go down a black hole. I think that must be part of what makes microloan setups work so well. There are no doubt other organizations on the Web that are doing the same thing as Kiva, but here's its site if you want to have a look to see how it works: http://www.kiva.org Minimum amount to donate for the loan program is $25. (Oh, and you can also get your money back once it's repaid. No interest, just whatever you gave in the first place.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Omnipresence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Johnjr: The Vaishnavas might disagree with these statements. Vaishnavas are followers of the Vedanta. All the proponents of the Upanishads are transcendentalists and they all agree that God is the *Transcendental Person*. According to Vaishnavas, Purusha is totally separate from prakriti. WillyTex, the point being made is that the Vaishnavas believe Krishna to be the Supreme Personality who descended on earth at various times in human history to eliminate evil and bring dharma to the world. This is not so different from the Christian's point of view. GOD never comes down (to earth), because He can`t descend, it is beyond his capacity to be less than almighty...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Omnipresence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: The Vaishnavas might disagree with these statements. Not to the mention the Budhists ! Thanks for posting this ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: The one power that GOD is lacking MAHARISHI: ...GOD never comes down (to earth), because He can`t descend, it is beyond his capacity to be less than almighty. Coming down means, He should become less than almighty and He just can`t. Omnipresent is omnipresent - it can`t detach itself from here or there or there. This one power He lacks, that He can`t detach himself from us (laughs). GOD the Almighty has not got that one power - even if He wishes, He can`t take himself away from us. Question: Guru Dev always used to repeat that: The one thing the Almighty fails is that He cannot separate himself from us`. MAHARISHI: Yes, Guru Dev used to say - even if He wants, He can`t. Because if He separates, if He succeeds in doing so, then He ceases to be almighty and He ceases to be GOD and He ceases to be omnipresent. And that He can`t do... Kumbha Mela, 1966 (audio 9/9)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXDRNeCFxKQNR=1 I understand that you are linking his themes with the Maharishi quote Nabby. But I see it a little differently. It isn't capitalism that Patel is targeting as much as free market dominant capitalism. All markets have a continuum of regulation and freedom. One of our biggest problems in the US is that our system of regulations is corrupted by special interest corporate lobbying. This allows some of our biggest corporations to act in a way that doesn't serve the public good and can even cause disasters like our credit markets. And yet the incentives created by freedom in markets are a fantastic way to get people moving, to create systems of profit that can end up benefiting society through job creation. Excellent distinction. There is a tendency (or thinking below our full potential) to generalize Captitalism (or is it Kapitalism,) with all markets. Often there is actually little corellation. What we have and are increasingly getting is cronyistic elitist statism -- which has NOTHING to do with free markets, particularly free markets at the at the mom and pop micro level. I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Its a breakthrough position, in my view -- giving copious red meat (ok red lentils) to both the right and left (a defunct set of terms, in my view - how can politics and world view, world and individual solutions be limited to one dimension?) Ending world poverty by enabling the 10% of the population to create and grow their open businesses -- getting out from under the hand of exploitative statist mini-Kapitalists who control local politics and markets (an oxymoron -- who control controlled transactions among unfree participants)and enabling the disadvantaged to creatie wealth, dignity, skill base, and a much more textured and robust economy. And then once again regulations assist so that an employer doesn't exploit workers, which has not worked in all of our industries but has helped in some. Looking at working conditions at the turn of the last century we can see that some progress have been made. There was a lot of this kind of writing back in the 1970s. Remember Small is Beautiful and Human Scale? Good books. Probably worth re-read. I also read a lot of different economic books back then in Paul Erdman's economic thrillers where he explained economics through the medium of a novel. I loved Erdman. I wish there was someone doing his sort of research / writing today. Too bad he didn't live to see the fiasco that's going on now. As I've mentioned here before I really don't think anyone can really manage a large corporation and those doing so are putting on a charade (sort of illustrated in the movie The Informant.). I think the economy will collapse so bad that we indeed will be truly left a nation of villages where about everything is locally produced by local small businesses. You can do a lot of things that way including manufacturing electronics and small cars. Do note that people expect the government to create jobs. Why not charge the government with creating small businesses. Yes. And thats a theme of Banker to the Poor. And a related theme is that training, the backbone of creating jobs and enabling people to fit in to created jobs is quite inefficient in fighting poverty. His bank, and micro-finance which has grown way beyond his efforts, is all about providing capital (its not a dirty word -- it just at times is used in corrupt ways) to the poor to enable them to create their own business. For example a sewing machine, a set of tools, a village cell phone, buying supplies in bulk, etc. Its his contention that the poor are quite trained in the skills and marketing know-how from from the context of their lives. Their biggest hurdle is not having the capital to enable them to take that big (yet micro in dollar terms -- on the level of a (or several) hundred dollars. Oh no, that might interfere with the operations of the mega corporations. I also maintain there should have been no bailout of the banks in 2008 and the ensuing collapse would have created a short economic depression much less painful than the one we may suffer for decades. The collapse would have hastened the small business scenario. I have felt the same. And further, that given the high unemployment that would have caused -- the economy and social safety net could have been kept afloat
[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Loading Zone plays The Seventh Son
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Paul Fauerso band reunion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ Nice. I didn't know Paul Fauerso could do decent music. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip #1 Women's work The world wouldn't turn without the work of raising children, and caring for family and community. But it's the work that is most often and quite literally taken for granted. If the work that women did were to be paid, how much would it cost? Researchers put it at $11 trillion in 1995, or half the world's total output. Movements demanding a basic income grant are laying the foundations for this new way of working and living. Valuing women's work would, more than any other single thing, transform the way we think about our economy and society. Obviously I'm in favor of valuing the work women do, but I'm not real fond of the phrase women's work. By far the majority of the work to be done can be done by either sex, so I'm wary of perpetuating the traditional categorizations. That's an attitude that needs to change before there can be real transformation. (Although maybe if women were paid well enough for women's work, men would stop feeling those kinds of work were beneath them and want to get in on the action.) How does this work? Who hires the domestic workers? Who pays them? Is there any limit? Any restrictions? If someone doesn't like their job, and they get paid by the state , say $20,000 year per kid ... this is a path is not going to end in a happy place. Bored with high school? Have 5 kids and score a cook 100 grand a year. If the kids turn out to be crackheads, can we go back and collect the parent pay? Can I get paid for doing good things?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: snip I recently finished, and highly recommend, Banker to the Poor by the guy who won the Nobel prize for his work in implementing and promoting micro-finance for the world's poor. Such a fabulous concept. I gave a small chunk of money to the microloan organization Kiva via the Web a couple of years ago, and it's been one of my most satisfying donations, because it keeps *renewing* itself. You choose folks to lend to from a list, and as the borrowers pay back their loans, the funds become available again for new loans. To the donor, it feels as if you're donating over and over again even though you aren't. (Of course, you can always increase the amount you give Kiva to work with.) Point being, there's a huge psychological satisfaction component to this arrangement that you don't get with many other donations, which from your end just seem to go down a black hole. I think that must be part of what makes microloan setups work so well. There are no doubt other organizations on the Web that are doing the same thing as Kiva, but here's its site if you want to have a look to see how it works: http://www.kiva.org Minimum amount to donate for the loan program is $25. (Oh, and you can also get your money back once it's repaid. No interest, just whatever you gave in the first place.) Thanks for the link. I was looking for a good micro-loan NGO to donate to. This may be a good one.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
She hails from Castro Valley in the SF Bay Area where my sister lives and about 30 miles from me. I keep forgetting to ask if my sister knows the family. ShempMcGurk wrote: Actually, Maddow is neither of Irish nor Russian heritage. She's Greek. She hails from one of those beautiful islands in the Aegean Sea. The Island of Lesbos, I believe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: The irony is that his main theme is that the new capital for the 21st century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is saying that true wealth in the future will come from giving. I understand he is an atheist. No problem there. But one of the last people I recall being so strident in this message, was Jesus H. Christ. That's an interesting observation you did here Steve. Would you like to elaborate ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ji_8tI0sbY Hey Nab, I mentioned a couple weeks ago that I was re-reading a book I had read about about 35 years ago about Jesus. Supposedly it was divined from the akashic records. But enough of that. I found the book to be authentic the first time I read it, and just as authentic the second time. But what I got from the book was that the overiding theme of Jesus's life was that he wa an unflinching champion of those who were wanting, or who were oppressed, or those victimized by others in power. And his prescriptons were radical. Along the lines of what Mr. Patel, and others of like mind recommend. I found the book to be so revealing that afterward I asked my son for a copy of the bible he used for his religon class (catholic school). I starting reading one of the gospels from this traditonal bible, and I was somewhat appalled. It was devoid of nuance, and it perverted the teaching I had just read to a great extent. Things like the virgin birth, (not in my version). Things like reincarnation (strongly alluded to in my version, expunged in traditional version) The last supper and the role of bread and wine. Much different meaning in my version as opposed to the traditional version. So, long story short. I just noticed the similiarities between Rajy Patel, and Jesus. And Jesus was definitely a believer in the higher power.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: #1 Women's work The world wouldn't turn without the work of raising children, and caring for family and community. But it's the work that is most often and quite literally taken for granted. If the work that women did were to be paid, how much would it cost? Researchers put it at $11 trillion in 1995, or half the world's total output. Movements demanding a basic income grant are laying the foundations for this new way of working and living. Valuing women's work would, more than any other single thing, transform the way we think about our economy and society. Obviously I'm in favor of valuing the work women do, but I'm not real fond of the phrase women's work. By far the majority of the work to be done can be done by either sex, so I'm wary of perpetuating the traditional categorizations. That's an attitude that needs to change before there can be real transformation. (Although maybe if women were paid well enough for women's work, men would stop feeling those kinds of work were beneath them and want to get in on the action.) How does this work? Who hires the domestic workers? Who pays them? Is there any limit? Any restrictions? If someone doesn't like their job, and they get paid by the state , say $20,000 year per kid ... this is a path is not going to end in a happy place. Bored with high school? Have 5 kids and score a cook 100 grand a year. If the kids turn out to be crackheads, can we go back and collect the parent pay? Can I get paid for doing good things? Heh. On Patel's Web site, he links in the quote above to Wikipedia's page on Basic Income. The notion pretty much avoids most of the problems you cite by giving a basic income to everyone, the only condition being citizenship. I think Bhairitu has mentioned something along these lines here. Seems like a rather naive idea to me, but I haven't really looked into it. Anyhow, that's the kind of approach Patel has in mind. I was amused to find that I wasn't the only person to have reacted negatively to the term women's work. Here's a comment from the Web site on that part of the post, and his reply (which addresses your concerns as well): - I am very much behind you in most of your Cheaponomics statements, but find your statement concerning womens' work beyond offensive. Oh, yes, please, just pay me for my life of drudgery instead of requiring that husbands/companions and fathers share in this work. Instead,shouldn't the suggestion be to eradicate this scourge of the women of this world, the out- dated patriarchal society that still thrives world-wide today, even in such enlightened countries as my own U.S.? Patel responds: You're right, Victoria I think we need a three part approach (and I learned this from Diane Elson, one of the feminist economists whose ideas shaped The Value of Nothing). When it comes to domestic labour, we need to Recognise, Redistribute and Reduce. Recognise means to appreciate that the labour is actually taking place, and is an ongoing subsidy to capitalism. There's a bit of a debate around whether paying for domestic labour defeats the purpose but that's why I think something like a basic income grant is good it severs the link between work and income, and moves us to a new way of thinking about how we earn and pay for things. The second part is Redistribute: domestic labour needs, actively, to be redistributed away from women so that it is equitably shared. And finally, the work needs to be reduced insofar as we can come up with ways and technologies for reducing the amount of work that has to be done in the first place. I'll write about this more in the future, but I've got to go make breakfast for my family! - Boy, he's slick...
[FairfieldLife] Challenge: Can you see the stupidity?
Can you point out the absolute absurdity of a statement like this below from the news (its a year old, but its the same news today)? Gold jumped to a new three-month high at $980 per ounce on Friday as traders bought the metal as a hedge against weakness in the dollar, which fell to five-month lows against a basket of currencies. http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINLT26882620090529 http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINLT26882620090529 Hint: The paradox is right in the statement. Any takers? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: #1 Women's work The world wouldn't turn without the work of raising children, and caring for family and community. But it's the work that is most often and quite literally taken for granted. If the work that women did were to be paid, how much would it cost? Researchers put it at $11 trillion in 1995, or half the world's total output. Movements demanding a basic income grant are laying the foundations for this new way of working and living. Valuing women's work would, more than any other single thing, transform the way we think about our economy and society. Obviously I'm in favor of valuing the work women do, but I'm not real fond of the phrase women's work. By far the majority of the work to be done can be done by either sex, so I'm wary of perpetuating the traditional categorizations. That's an attitude that needs to change before there can be real transformation. (Although maybe if women were paid well enough for women's work, men would stop feeling those kinds of work were beneath them and want to get in on the action.) How does this work? Who hires the domestic workers? Who pays them? Is there any limit? Any restrictions? If someone doesn't like their job, and they get paid by the state , say $20,000 year per kid ... this is a path is not going to end in a happy place. Bored with high school? Have 5 kids and score a cook 100 grand a year. If the kids turn out to be crackheads, can we go back and collect the parent pay? Can I get paid for doing good things? Heh. On Patel's Web site, he links in the quote above to Wikipedia's page on Basic Income. The notion pretty much avoids most of the problems you cite by giving a basic income to everyone, the only condition being citizenship. I think Bhairitu has mentioned something along these lines here. Seems like a rather naive idea to me, but I haven't really looked into it. Anyhow, that's the kind of approach Patel has in mind. Actual Milton Friedman (prominent economist) proposed a negative income tax, and Nixon seriously considered it. I think the idea was instead of giving food stamps, housing subsidies, welfare, health care, (perhaps education) to all, give them a guaranteed income so that they can exercise their consumer soverenty and make the best choices to maximize their particular satisfaction. (Personally I would guess from experience that meth might be the most satisfying education, food and health in some consumers' view). I was amused to find that I wasn't the only person to have reacted negatively to the term women's work. Here's a comment from the Web site on that part of the post, and his reply (which addresses your concerns as well): - I am very much behind you in most of your Cheaponomics statements, but find your statement concerning womens' work beyond offensive. Oh, yes, please, just pay me for my life of drudgery instead of requiring that husbands/companions and fathers share in this work. Instead,shouldn't the suggestion be to eradicate this scourge of the women of this world, the out- dated patriarchal society that still thrives world-wide today, even in such enlightened countries as my own U.S.? Patel responds: You're right, Victoria I think we need a three part approach (and I learned this from Diane Elson, one of the feminist economists whose ideas shaped The Value of Nothing). When it comes to domestic labour, we need to Recognise, Redistribute and Reduce. Recognise means to appreciate that the labour is actually taking place, yes. and is an ongoing subsidy to capitalism. I think thats backwards, or sideways. There's a bit of a debate around whether paying for domestic labor defeats the purpose but that's why I think something like a basic income grant is good it severs the link between work and income, and moves us to a new way of thinking about how we earn and pay for things. He hasn't made much of a case her, or yet. The second part is Redistribute: domestic labour needs, actively, to be redistributed away from women so that it is equitably shared. Yes. And finally, the work needs to be reduced insofar as we can come up with ways and technologies for reducing the amount of work that has to be done in the first place. OK -- but he doesn't really make the case for the negative income tax / basic income idea (just thinking out loud, not arguing with you or any one). I'll write about this more in the future, but I've got to go make breakfast for my family! - Boy, he's slick... However, in a post industrial society --
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing - Capitalism is finished !
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:25 PM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.kiva.org Minimum amount to donate for the loan program is $25. (Oh, and you can also get your money back once it's repaid. No interest, just whatever you gave in the first place.) Thanks for the link. I was looking for a good micro-loan NGO to donate to. This may be a good one. I just loaned money to Djuraboy Norkulov to upgrade his farm in Tajikistan. I wish him well. -- I've got nothing against God. It's his fan club I can't stand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: She hails from Castro Valley in the SF Bay Area where my sister lives and about 30 miles from me. I keep forgetting to ask if my sister knows the family. No, no, I'm pretty sure she's from Lesbos. ShempMcGurk wrote: Actually, Maddow is neither of Irish nor Russian heritage. She's Greek. She hails from one of those beautiful islands in the Aegean Sea. The Island of Lesbos, I believe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stampede in an Indian Temple
I viewed an interview he did with Ruth Broccoli. I thought he came off pretty good. As I see it, one can be pretty intent on achieving spiritual liberation. And I think it is a real goal, and does exist. But once one achieves it, one may decide to partake of more earthly delights. And I don't know that there is anything wrong with that. But I guess if you are preaching one thing, and practicing something different, that can create problems. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: I feel pretty sorry for the guy. His sexual activity I am sure made him a better guru. Did he claim to be celibate? If he did, then it's on him. If not, it's on his followers. YMMV Based on the clips posted by his disciples on YouTube, he is considered to be celebate. He claimed to be enlightened as well. And of course even more relevant to FFL if you drop over to Guruphiliac you'll find a couple of Indian news videos of Swami Nithyananda being caught in bed with a Tamil actress and the violent protests that followed at his ashram. http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Challenge: Can you see the stupidity?
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:29 PM, off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: *Can you point out the absolute absurdity of a statement like this below from the news (its a year old, but its the same news today)?* Gold jumped to a new three-month high at $980 per ounce on Friday as traders bought the metal as a hedge against weakness in the dollar, which fell to five-month lows against a basket of currencies. http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINLT26882620090529 *Hint: The paradox is right in the statement.* *Any takers?* *OffWorld* Ummm. We had to pay $850 an ouce for gold because the money we bought it with money that had lost its value? It's a paradox but still a wise hedge. It's a wise hedge because as the value of the dollar decreases, the price of gold will increase in terms of dollars. It would also become a wise speculation if you sell the gold for more dollars than wait for the dollar to increase in value against, say, the Euro, which will probably drop below parity with the dollar as the PIGS eat at the trough and Germany and others refuse to help the PIGS out. Makes no sense since whenever I go to Germany I'm offered snitzel or sausage in hundreds of flavors, most of them pork. -- I've got nothing against God. It's his fan club I can't stand.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Stampede in an Indian Temple
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: metoo: ...he later repudiated Vedanta Vaishnavas have their own interpretation of Vedanta (those who follow the Upanishads). A Very Brief Outline of the South Asian Systems of Philosophy and Heterodox Epistemology:... WillyTex: Thanks for the list, and yes I have some familiarity with the run. Quite a range of choices. As to repudiated Vedanta, Prakashanand has commented of his time as SBS's attendant that SBS was, while Shankaracharya, still seeking enlightenment, and that the ideal goal is not jivanmukti but, as you say, inconceivable oneness and difference'... and the relation of...Radha and Krishna and as pointedly, eternity in Vrindavan with Krisn, perhaps a sort of Christian sounding goal? Of more interesting to me when I first came to know of the differences in the systems was not the merit of either view, but the fact that such disagreement exists between the wise. Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live TM Theatre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0Qu7a2lbkw the video gets better on the second or third replay. the end, praising Da King as the embodiment of silence, and suggesting that the entire future of the movement depends on having such a dedicated, one-pointed, and above all celibate and unmarried person such as himself at the helm of it. Interesting you landed on that last moment too. I backed the video up acouple times just to listen to that last sentence or two. There came the mission statement. The why. Is way too packed a sentence to transcribe from memory now. But there it was. It's what it's all and what they are all about now right there. Was not exactly about the celibate or married Tony by the end in example but to principled sentiment right at the video end. In watching and knowing some of it, i give the guy some lot of credit. He is doing a lot of stuff with what all he's been given, but doesn't really seem yet a leader in a classic way yet. Possibly doesn't have the authority yet to do it. Obviously academic but just not necessarily a leader yet. Not real good at simply saying 'this is what we are about, this is where we are going this is how we are going to get there'. Seems instead spends most his time arguing a case hoping the merits will conclude the proposition. I hope the best for him, -Buck I agree that on one level it's great theater. What I'm not sure of is whether it's supposed to be a comedy or a tragedy.
[FairfieldLife] It's not a sin if you can make a buck off of it. - Luke 3:16
Catholic priests who are gay? Ho hum. Not exactly news material. One of the Pope's ceremonial ushers as a gay pimp? More interesting. [Pope] Vatican Hit By Gay Sex Scandal The Vatican has been thrown into chaos by reports that one of the Pope's ceremonial ushers, as well as a member of the elite Vatican choir, were involved in a homosexual prostitution ring. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR20100\ 30401395.html The allegations came to light after Italian newspapers published transcripts of phone calls recorded by police, who had been conducting an unrelated corruption investigation. The tapes appear to record Angelo Balducci, a Gentleman of His Holiness, negotiating with Thomas Chinedu Ehiem, a 29-year-old Nigerian Vatican chorister, about men he wanted brought to him for sexual purposes. Balducci was allegedly paying 2,000 euros ($2,714) for each man he met, according to the Irish Times http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2010/0304/1224265559432.html . Balducci is recorded describing precise physical details of the men he wanted. The transcripts record that during five months in 2008, Ehiem procured for Balducci at least 10 contacts with, among others, two black Cuban lads, a former male model from Naples, and a rugby player from Rome. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/04/vatican-gay-sex-scandal A report by the Italian Carabinieri on the case said: In order to organize casual encounters of a sexual nature, he availed himself of the intercession of two individuals who, it is maintained, may form part of an organized network, especially active in [Rome], of exploiters or at least facilitators of male prostitution. The police probe into corruption resulted in Balducci and 4 others being arrested. Allegations of prostitution were only revealed later, and have resulted in Ehiem's dismissal from the Vatican choir. Balducci held a high position within the Vatican and carried the coffin of Pope John Paul at his 2005 funeral. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR20100\ 30401395.html He has now lost his position as a Gentleman of the Holiness. His trial for corruption is still pending. The Catholic Church has weathered a storm of controversy in recent years over allegations of sexual abuse by its members. Whilst homosexuality is not outright condemned within the Church, it is taught that homosexual acts are are intrinsically disordered.
