[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[ShempMcGurk]

There are several HuffingtonPost stories on Amanda that have very lively 
comments sections.  This is where I was challenged when I made my naive "she's 
innocent" comment. 

Here a link to one of the most lifely ones (again, read the comments sections):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/13/amanda-knox-jail-intervie_n_390274.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> 
> What have you found Shemp?  I know a little about this crazy Italian 
> prosecutor (under indictment in other cases for misconduct and abuse of 
> power)  from the book The Monster of Florence where he tried to run this 
> whole satanic cult routine on an American journalist who was writing a book 
> about a serial killer.  That story was so parallel to what happened to Amanda 
> that I'm still in the innocent camp.
> 
> They have a ton of real forensic evidence on the guy they convicted first.  
> What makes you think there is more to the story than the one guy with a rape 
> motive who was not friends with Amanda doing the crime?  And she would have 
> to be really in cahoots with him because she mistakenly fingered another guy 
> during the prolonged interrogation. An obviously innocent guy.  A desperate 
> move of a terrified girl. So she would have to be willing to go to jail 
> rather than give the guy up.  Why?  He fled  the country and Amanda and 
> boyfriend stuck around and phoned in the crime.  Then the guy they first 
> convicted got caught and brought back to Italy doesn't immediately give up 
> Amanda or the boyfriend either.  He holds out until they give him a deal 
> specifically for saying they were involved later.
> 
> And comparing the family "inflaming" the American public to the inflaming 
> articles in Italy with a non sequestered jury seems a bit much. A charge that 
> the parents manipulated the media seems far fetched, it makes just as good a 
> story either way. The judge basically said there was no motive.  She just 
> happened to get together with a drifter criminal and due to the consumption 
> of  stupefacente (refer madness)commit bloody murder? It was a total Helter 
> Skelter scene with such a small amount of trace of Amanda and boyfriend that 
> the it was destroyed by the prosecutor's testing so the defense couldn't have 
> it independently tested.
> 
> 
> I would love to have my perspective rocked on this, where should I go, what 
> blogs?
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book "Angel 
> > Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox":
> > 
> > " Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
> > reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
> > rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
> > roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
> > convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
> > Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
> > Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
> > personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and the 
> > defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to control 
> > media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American audience, and 
> > painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice system. An 
> > eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to study, Angel 
> > Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible crime."
> > 
> > I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories (like 
> > 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But after 
> > reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
> > 
> > Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
> > reaction to it?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] The bet is on: $50,000.00!

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings  wrote:



[snip]



> >
> > > I REALLY hope that RP will be the next Republican candidate. He'll
> be
> > > awesome, but he will be too busy agreeing with Obama on everything,
> to
> > > be able to win.
> > >
> > > OFF-WORLD PREDICTION:   YOU will hear Ron Paul in an interview in
> the
> > > next 6 months saying that something needs to be done about the
> danger of
> > > Climate Change.
> > >
> > > Make a date. Put it in your diary. You WILL hear it right here,
> within 6
> > > months.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Are you a betting man?
> >
> > We could send the money to Rick Archer to hold.
> >
> > Let me know...
> 
> Name your price?
> 


$50,000.00.

Who is your lawyer and at what phone number and address may I contact him?




> My lawyer will issue you some papers to sign to make sure you don't try
> to get out of it, since I don't trust you.
> 
> OffWorld
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quartet calls for Palestinian state within two years

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "do.rflex" 
wrote:
>
>
>
>HAARETZ Newspaper in Israel - The Quartet, which comprises members
from Russia, the United States, the UN and the European Union, called
Israel and the Palestinians to renew peace negotiations in order to
achieve a two-state solution within 24 months. >>>

Excellent news.

OffWorld



The members met in Moscow on Friday in an effort to defuse the latest
crisis in peace efforts between Israel and the Palestinians.
>
> "The Quartet believes these negotiations should lead to a settlement,
> negotiated between the parties within 24 months, that ends the
> occupation that began in 1967 and results in the emergence of an
> independent, democratic and viable Palestinian state living side by
side in peace and security with Israel and its other neighbors," said a
joint statement read by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.
>
> "The Quartet reiterates that Arab-Israeli peace and the establishment
of a peaceful state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza is in the
> fundamental interest of the parties, of all states in the region, and
of the international community," said the statement. "In this regard the
Quartet calls on all states to support dialogues between the parties."
>
> The mediators also called on Israel following their meeting to freeze
> all settlement activities and denounced its recent decision to approve
> construction of 1.600 new homes in East Jerusalem.
>
> "The Quartet urges the government of Israel to freeze all settlement
> activities ... and to refrain from demolitions and evictions,"
according to the statement read by Ban. The statement also condemned
Israel's approval of the construction in East Jerusalem.
>
> At the start of the talks, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov
said: "All of us today hope to arrive at some common conclusions which
will help to promote the beginning of a dialogue between the two sides."
>
> U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in Moscow, discussed steps to
> improve the outlook for Israeli-Palestinian peace by telephone with
> Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday.
>
> Netanyahu's spokesman Nir Chefetz said the Israeli leader had proposed
> some "mutual confidence-building steps" that both Israel and the
> Palestinians could take in the West Bank. He declined to spell these
out.
>
> Clinton met her Russian counterpart Lavrov, UN Secretary General Ban
> Ki-moon, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and Quartet
> Representative Tony Blair over a closed dinner on Thursday evening
> before Friday's formal meeting.
>
> No details of that meeting were disclosed.
>
> "We intend to have a very broad-ranging discussion with our Quartet
> partners," Clinton said at a joint news conference with Lavrov on
> Thursday. "Our goals remain the same. It is to re-launch negotiations
> between the Israelis and the Palestinians on a path that will lead to
a two-state solution."
>
> The Quartet was formed in 2002 in Spain to assist in mediating an end
to escalating violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It last met
on the margins of the UN General Assembly in September.
>
> But its results so far have been meagre, leading some analysts to
> dismiss it as an expensive club for diplomats.
>
> Moscow had originally hoped to organise a full-scale international
> conference on the Middle East this year but the lack of progress on
> Israeli-Palestinian peace talks has forced Russia to settle instead
for hosting a quartet meeting.
>
> Biden: East Jerusalem decision designed to undermine peace process
>
> Meanwhile, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden has called Israel's decision
to approve 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem week "provocative", adding
that it was "obviously designed by some in Israel to undermine a peace
process George Mitchell finally got - our negotiator - finally got back
on track."
>
> In an interview with ABC's Nightline which will air on Friday night,
> Biden reiterated that "Israel's security is undeniably in our interest
> to make sure it is absolutely secure" and Washington and Jerusalem to
> "get over" the recent tensions that flared in response to the
announcement.
>
> "And so the message is: We've got to get over this," Biden said.
> "Granted, I condemn the announcement made by that planning council.
> ...The irony is even that planning council acknowledging not a single
new unit can be built at least for a year and maybe never will be built,
it was provocative."
>
> The Interior Ministry's decision was made public during Biden's visit
to Israel last week, a move the United States termed an "insult" as it
came amid U.S. efforts to see Middle East peace negotiations renewed.
>
> In the interview, Biden denied reports that he had told Prime Minister
> Benjamin Netanyahu that Israel's policy on settlements puts U.S.
troops at risk.
>
> "No, I never said that," Biden told ABC
>
> ---UPDATED:
>
> [Hard right-winger Avigdor] Lieberman on Quartet cal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp and Alex prove Ron Paul is a liar.

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "ShempMcGurk" 
wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , off_world_beings 
wrote:
> >
> >
> > So what have you proven big guy?
> > That Ron Paul is a jerk and idiot on some issues??
> >
>
>
> What I have demonstrated is that you are not to be trusted when you
write something here on this forum.
>
>
>
> > You are right, he is an idiot on some issues as I have said many
times,
> > just like his pretense of being anti-abortion, he is an obvious
flake,
> > and a flip=flopper, and you have proven that.
> >
>
>
>
> What took me an inordinate amount of energy to demonstrate to you that
you had it wrong shouldn't have.
>
> Here you are finally admitting you had it wrong when you could have
done it after the first, obvious instance of pointing it out to you.
>
> You've wasted my time, Alex's time, and everyone else on this forum
who have bothered to read these posts (and I suspect that many didn't
bother, thankfully).
>
>
>
>
> > He makes John Kerry look like a solid stalwart King of the
> > ImmovableStupa. ( I threw that in for Cardemeister to go to work and
> > figure some stuff out, instead of sitting around doing squat.)
> >
> > You are finally waking up to the fact that Ron Paul is a chancer and
a
> > player.
> >
> > But the fact is, that Ron Paul is still the best YOU Republicans
have
> > for a leader.
>
>
>
> I am not now nor have I ever been a Republican.  You'd know that if
you read my posts.
>
>
>
> >
> > However,  Obama is far more of a world leader, modern man, and an
usher
> > of the future, than any Republican will ever be.
> >
> > Thank god we have Obama and not Ron Paul.
> >
>
>
>
> That's a reflection on those that, fanatically, supported and endorsed
Ron Paul.
>
> Gee, I wonder who on this forum fits such a description?
>
>
>
> > I REALLY hope that RP will be the next Republican candidate. He'll
be
> > awesome, but he will be too busy agreeing with Obama on everything,
to
> > be able to win.
> >
> > OFF-WORLD PREDICTION:   YOU will hear Ron Paul in an interview in
the
> > next 6 months saying that something needs to be done about the
danger of
> > Climate Change.
> >
> > Make a date. Put it in your diary. You WILL hear it right here,
within 6
> > months.
> >
>
>
> Are you a betting man?
>
> We could send the money to Rick Archer to hold.
>
> Let me know...

Name your price?

My lawyer will issue you some papers to sign to make sure you don't try
to get out of it, since I don't trust you.

OffWorld

RE: [FairfieldLife] Sanskrit @ Amrita University summer 2010

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of It's just a ride
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 6:28 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sanskrit @ Amrita University summer 2010
 
  
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Rick Archer  wrote:
 
Aum Namah Sivaya
We would like to introduce Krishnan Venkatesh a professor of Eastern Studies
at St. John's College in Santa Fe, NM.  Krishnan was introduced to Amma by
his wife Kusuma who organized many tours for Amma including Her first tour
in 1987! They have been in Amritapuri this last year, and Amma has asked
Krishnan to spread the word to university students and all interested people
about this unique and wonderful course offering. Please send this notice to
your lists so that everyone knows of this great opportunity.  

Amma is a mind controlling bitch who embezzles money she takes in away from
her hospitals and universities and into her sisters' lavish mansion.  Amma
is a one worlder who wants the Rupee to be at parity with the USA dollar.

All I know about Amma I learned on the Yahoo! ExAmma forum.
 
Ah yes, the Fox news of spiritual discussion groups, moderated by someone
who has never even seen Amma and who disallows any posts other than
negative, critical ones.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia to drill for oil off the Gulf of Mexico!!

[off_world_beings]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "BillyG"  wrote:
>
> They ain't stupid that's for sure, they must be laughing all the way
to the bank at all the Environmental purest wackos in the USA, (and
Hollywood).
>
>
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to\
-moscow/

>


So ? Phillipinos clean your toilets, and you don' complain about that.

I suppose rather than a Russian company drilling  you would prefer to
have Chevron-Texaco do it, who are ACTUAL traitors to the USA.

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] some popular prom dresses

[Yifu Xero]

Yes, very popular prom dresses; suitable for the yearly MUM prom.
http://photos.momlogic.com/galleries/27_slutty_prom_dresses/entry_image/7815-1a_1


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater - Wednesday Night 7:30 PM

[lurkernomore20002000]

 
> Lot of TM meditators been thrown out of the domes for going to see spiritual
> teachers just like Trivedi. The Malloys now too? 
>  
> Ed Malloy would have to get pretty far off the program before the TMO would
> dare throw him out, and I'm sure they'd try to "talk sense" into him before
> they did so.
>
So, in other words.  You're between 50 and 65 years old.  You have a little 
wisdom accumulated.  You've managed to raise some kids, and get them out the 
door. You've managed to get through some the heavier financial obligations.  So 
now it's time to relax a little.  Enjoy life a little. Settle into community 
life a little. And then you have to worry that you might be ostracized from 
some of the power brokers in community for going to see the wrong lecture!  The 
community you've bought into to an certain extent.  That's just wrog.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater - Wednesday Night 7:30 PM

[Duveyoung]

And it ain't just Fairfield where they got this problem:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article7067989.ece



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> This marketing piece -- this advertisement to FFLers -- is close to 100% 
> bullshit in that the host of links to Web pages giving detailed proofs that 
> would be necessary to back up these outlandish claims are not offered.  
> 
> I once paid a psychic nurse to diagnose my family and she missed cancer in 
> one of my kids that had to have an emergency operation the very next week, 
> but this nurse had half the FF community eating her, well, her shit is what 
> was.  At $125 a pop.
> 
> Shame on you Debby for espousing yet another miraculous foreigner -- let's 
> see you post a youtube video of the Great Randi having at this charlatan.  
> Let's see some of this vaunted scientific research in actual published papers 
> -- not a mere listing of vile bragging such as this page contains:
> 
> http://www.trivedifoundation.org/scientific-research
> 
> This guy'll get maybe 200 people to come to the lecture -- that's $3,000 -- 
> how much of that are you getting Debby for being the mouthpiece for yet 
> another draining influence on FF?
> 
> Tell us again how wonderful his personality is so we can all have an 
> experience of Unity in Puking.
> 
> Edg
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Friends, 
> >  
> > Another interesting healer has been brought to my attention and I wanted to
> > share him with you. This one sounds really unbelievable, like the others
> > that have come before him, just different.  
> >  
> > His name is Mahendra Kumar Trivedi and he is from India. He worked as a
> > mechanical engineer until the voice of the divine called him to begin living
> > his dharma. It appears he has the ability to change the molecular structure
> > of cancer cells, radioactive water, virus, bacteria, fungus etc.. He returns
> > cells to their original structure before they were polluted. He has had
> > success with advanced cancer, rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia, chronic
> > headaches and many other health challenges.  
> > 
> > Mr. Trivedi will be giving a public lecture on Wednesday, March 17th, at
> > 7:30 PM in the Sondheim Theater, where he will give some of the results of
> > scientific studies on his abilities.  At the end of the evening he will give
> > a group energy transmission for the health and well being of everyone in
> > attendance. Tickets can be purchased online at www.TrivediFoundation.org or
> > at the door.
> >  
> > Mr. Trivedi has worked with top research scientists in the world and more
> > than 4,000 scientific studies have been done to verify his gift to heal. The
> > studies have measured his thought transmission ability and how it affects
> > large numbers of samples from micro-organisms, metals, human cells, and
> > more. Seeds that he has blessed produced healthier, stronger plants and had
> > 400 times the vitamin C than the control group, without the bacteria and
> > fungus that attacks plants. He also does blessings on people's
> > relationships, homes and businesses and has had huge success with this as
> > well. 
> >  
> > I was contacted to organize a group of doctors, scientists, and other key
> > people to meet with him when he comes to Fairfield in March. Fred Travis has
> > already been contacted. Mr. Trivedi will be giving a public lecture on
> > Wednesday, March 17th.  I will host him on March 18th for the more private
> > sessions. It will not be publicly announced so I can also have some control
> > who shows up at my house given the high profile position Ed and I are in. So
> > this email is a personal invitation to you and if you have friends or family
> > you want to have  see him they must contact me. 
> >  
> > Hopefully you will be in town to meet Trivedi  and perhaps have a private
> > session with him. I am just giving an early heads up to you all so that you
> > will have the opportunity to at least see him at the Civic Center.  The fee
> > for one of his sessions is $150.
> >  
> > I truly believe these wonderful healers are divine blessings of light sent
> > as protection against the dark energies of GMO'S, pesticides and the general
> > pollution of our food, air and water and can also transform any inherent
> > weaknesses we may have in our DNA. I also believe we are moving into
> > developing our own subtle healing abilities and we can learn a lot from all
> > these wonderful healers that are being drawn to our beautiful fair fields. 
> >  
> > To learn more about Trivedi, go to his website: trivedifoundation.org   He
> > has a very sweet face and I immediately felt good when I saw it. I will be
> > in touch as the time gets closer to his visit, but, if you don't hear from
> > me send me an email. 
> >  
> > Yours in perfect health, 
> > Vicki
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] We can do it! - 1 million against GM crops

[merlin]

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater - Wednesday Night 7:30 PM

[It's just a ride]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:

>
> Ed Malloy would have to get pretty far off the program before the TMO would
> dare throw him out, and I'm sure they'd try to "talk sense" into him before
> they did so.
>
>
I take it Ed Malloy's a big donor.

-- 
My late grandfather told me that if I ate a meatball every day for a hundred
years, I would live to a ripe old age.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sanskrit @ Amrita University summer 2010

[It's just a ride]

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 6:05 PM, Rick Archer  wrote:

>
>
>  Aum Namah Sivaya
> We would like to introduce Krishnan Venkatesh a professor of Eastern
> Studies at St. John's College in Santa Fe, NM.  Krishnan was introduced to
> Amma by his wife Kusuma who organized many tours for Amma including Her
> first tour in 1987! They have been in Amritapuri this last year, and Amma
> has asked Krishnan to spread the word to university students and all
> interested people about this unique and wonderful course offering. Please
> send this notice to your lists so that everyone knows of this great
> opportunity.
>
Amma is a mind controlling bitch who embezzles money she takes in away from
her hospitals and universities and into her sisters' lavish mansion.  Amma
is a one worlder who wants the Rupee to be at parity with the USA dollar.

All I know about Amma I learned on the Yahoo! ExAmma forum.


-- 
My late grandfather told me that if I ate a meatball every day for a hundred
years, I would live to a ripe old age.

[FairfieldLife] Sanskrit @ Amrita University summer 2010

[Rick Archer]

Aum Namah Sivaya
We would like to introduce Krishnan Venkatesh a professor of Eastern Studies
at St. John's College in Santa Fe, NM.  Krishnan was introduced to Amma by
his wife Kusuma who organized many tours for Amma including Her first tour
in 1987! They have been in Amritapuri this last year, and Amma has asked
Krishnan to spread the word to university students and all interested people
about this unique and wonderful course offering. Please send this notice to
your lists so that everyone knows of this great opportunity.  

Aum Amriteshwaryai Namah
Sanskrit  in Amritapuri (July 19-August 15, 2010)

Amrita University is pleased to announce an exciting new certificate course
in  Sanskrit for international students. The month-long Sanskrit Retreat
Intensive  (SRI) takes place in Amritapuri after most of the North American
tour is over.  It is designed for both beginners and people with previous
Sanskrit  experience, and it is already attracting people of all ages and
backgrounds.The cost is an amazing $1000, which includes tuition, room and
board, and field trips.
 
For more details, go to www.amrita.edu/sri 

Please help us publicize  this course by emailing to your satsangs and
friends. If you have questions, feel free to contact me, Krishnan Venkatesh,
at: 

s...@amritapuri.amrita.edu 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Russia to drill for oil off the Gulf of Mexico!!

[It's just a ride]

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:16 PM, BillyG  wrote:

> They ain't stupid that's for sure, they must be laughing all the way to the
> bank at all the Environmental purest wackos in the USA, (and Hollywood).
>
>
> http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to-moscow/
>
>
What's even worse is that Obama's turning away from oil is bad for the
business of the major sponsor of Invincible America, the group which with
the pundits in Vedic City has brought you CHANGE.

-- 
My late grandfather told me that if I ate a meatball every day for a hundred
years, I would live to a ripe old age.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Repo Men

[Bhairitu]

Sounds like a good one to go see next week. It's on at the theater 
nearby.  When I can I avoid Fridays where the matinées are more 
crowded.  Besides the weather isn't quite movie going kind.  ;-)


TurquoiseB wrote:
> Nice, taut SciFi thriller starring Jude Law, Forrest
> Whitaker and newcomer Alice Braga. In a future America
> that's on the verge of bankruptcy, the only ones still
> making hand over fist are the ones who enable others
> to buy things while "holding the paper" on them. Fail
> to make your auto payments and they repo your car. Fail
> to make your mortgage payments and they repo your house.
> Fail to make the payments on your artificial heart or
> kidney or eyes or lungs and...well...you get the point.
>
> Jude Law plays one of these repo men, whose job is 
> tracking down the debtors and literally taking their
> pound of flesh from them. He has no problems with this.
> Suffice it to say that a plot twist happens that allows 
> him to see that his job differently. 
>
> Nicely done movie. May be too real for some here...
>
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Movie review: Repo Men

[TurquoiseB]

Nice, taut SciFi thriller starring Jude Law, Forrest
Whitaker and newcomer Alice Braga. In a future America
that's on the verge of bankruptcy, the only ones still
making hand over fist are the ones who enable others
to buy things while "holding the paper" on them. Fail
to make your auto payments and they repo your car. Fail
to make your mortgage payments and they repo your house.
Fail to make the payments on your artificial heart or
kidney or eyes or lungs and...well...you get the point.

Jude Law plays one of these repo men, whose job is 
tracking down the debtors and literally taking their
pound of flesh from them. He has no problems with this.
Suffice it to say that a plot twist happens that allows 
him to see that his job differently. 

Nicely done movie. May be too real for some here...

[FairfieldLife] Jeff Beck

[Rick Archer]

>From a guitar-playing friend:
 
Hi All,

Part of Jimi Hendrix's genius was his ability to "control" his guitar and
make it sing as an extension of himself. Others couldn't play his guitar
with his settings, without uncontrolled feedback! 

Another guitarist that is well known for his guitar virtuosity is Jeff Beck,
but rarely do I hear people discuss his "genius" in the subtle manipulations
of the volume controls and whammy bar it takes for his "playing". He makes
it look easy!!!

Enjoy,
Jerry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgGvml0cOKA

[FairfieldLife] Fire and Ice

[TurquoiseB]

I'm sitting here in my cozy hotel room in front of a 
roaring fire gazing out the window at my first combin-
ation thunder/lightning/snowstorm. It's neat. Snow
falling like mad (two inches in less than 20 minutes)
while thunder crashes every few seconds and lightning
flashes light up the new-fallen snow. Cool.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[TurquoiseB]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
> > > 
> > > Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
> > 
> > Interesting.
> > 
> > Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said 
> > that the Amanda Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
> > 
> > Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.
> 
> Not so. Here in the UK it had enormous coverage.
> 
> I would say most people were bemused, didn't know what
> to make of it. A very odd crime and a very odd story.

I didn't say it wasn't covered, merely that I 
and the kinds of people I know would never have
watched it if it was. 

[FairfieldLife] Hardwar Maha Kumbh Mela 2010 Dhuni Web Cast Project

[Surya]

Come and be a part of the Groundbreaking First LIVE Webcast from the Sacred 
Fire Dhunis of Numerous, Rarely Seen, Powerful Potent Yogis, Naga Babas, 
Matajis, Tantriks and other Sadhus from the various lineages and akharas. Many 
of these Ascetic Yogis stay hidden away at their retreats high in the Himalayas 
and only come down sometimes for these Kumbh Melas.

There are so many Ochre Clad Sadhus at these Kumbh Melas. We have taken the 
last 15+ years getting to know some of the GREATEST! We are in a Very Unique 
Position to be able to perform this Seva for the World.

There will be 5-7 days/nights of twice daily Live Web Casts that will last 2-4 
hrs+ each!

We will engage in Satsang with these Great Saints and get their answers on 
questions like:

What is Atma Vidya (Knowledge of the Self/Self Realization)?
How does one attain this "Enlightenment"?
What is the role of a Yogi in the World?
How should we live our life to help uplift the World?
What Spiritual Practices and Techniques are most effective and why?

and much more...

How incredibly interesting and uplifting it will be to hear the different 
answers each gives...or the same!

We will get to hear their devotional songs, see their arati worship, and 
witness some of their Awe Inspring and Awesome Spiritual Practices. 

This is an Unbelievably Rare Opportunity to get the Blessings and Darshan of 
the Great Beings upholding the unbroken Yogic Esoteric Traditions of India.

If you are viewing us live, you can even chat in a question! All the web casts 
will be recorded so you can watch them anytime, over and over!

We ask a minimum donation of $108 for this event. Students and those in real 
dire straits, can donate $54. Contact us, if you fall into that category. $108 
is just the minimum and certainly, as always, the more you give, the more you 
will get! 

$1008 donation will receive a special large 11 Mukhi Gauri Shankar Rudraksha 
Bead, blessed by 11 Nagas at Their Dhunis. This is a bead very sought after by 
the Babas, as it is very Spiritually Powerful. It corresponds to both 
Hanumanji, who is also known as Maha Rudra (the 11th Rudra) and to 
Shiva/Parvati (Gauri Shankar) I was taught that 1+1=11. 

$5040 Donation will receive a 2-3 ft Narmadeshwar Shiva Lingam, made of Pure 
Cryptocrystalline Quartz, that has been bathed in MAA Gangaji during this 
auspicious time and Blessed by the Babas & Matajis!

We need to raise a minimum of $10,800 to cover all expenses, which includes 
giving Dakshina to all these Great Mahatmas. By donating, you will be part of 
each of these Dakshinas and receive some of the Punya (Merit) associated with 
this Righteous Auspicious Dharmic Action. If we can raise more, we can donate 
more and have some other surprises in mind.

All who participate will be mailed some Vibhuti (Sacred Ash) from the Dhunis of 
these Saints, upon our return to the US.

Larger donations will receive Special Blessed and Empowered Gifts from these 
Great Souls. Ask us for details.

Please contact Surya with any questions you may have. He can be reached at 
maham...@cox.net or on his cell at 760-889-1276.

You can simply paypal your donation with "DHUNI CAST" in the title to 
maham...@cox.net as well. Or you can mail check, money order or cash made 
payable to Scott Wohl to:

Surya Wohl
315 South Coast HWY 101, #U33
Encinitas, CA 92024

We will contact you to let you know we have received it and will send you the 
password to allow you to view the Live Web Cast and watch the videos.

JAI M!!!

Surya

[FairfieldLife] Karunamayi coming to Fairfield

[Yifu Xero]

http://www.karunamayi.org



  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[Bhairitu]

ShempMcGurk wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>   
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>>>   
 I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 

 Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.

 
>>> Interesting.
>>>
>>> Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the 
>>> Amanda Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
>>>
>>> Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.
>>>
>>>   
>> It was a big deal here,
>> 
>
>
>
>
> Where is "here"?

I think Barry like me does not pay a whole lot of attention to "pop" 
news.  We get these stories because MSM wants to bump stuff we should be 
paying attention to and doing something about off the front pages.  
Stories like these are a diversion for the sheeple and would have been 
barely reported 20 years ago.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
> >
> > It was a big deal here,
> 
> Where is "here"?
 
He's posting from a UK IP address. 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater - Wednesday Night 7:30 PM

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 11:47 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater -
Wednesday Night 7:30 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:

> Ed Malloy would have to get pretty far off the program before the TMO
would
> dare throw him out, and I'm sure they'd try to "talk sense" into him
before
> they did so.

Rick, 

Your "nice guy addiction" is showing. Do you really think the TMO would have
any problem dumping a "mayor of a small town?" Ed Malloy is far more
dumpable than, say, Jerry Jarvis was in his day. They might try to talk
sense into him, but once they got it that he wasn't going to tow the line,
he'd be out on his ass. 

If he doesn't get dumped, I'd say it was an example of the TMO seeing that
it's on its last legs in FF, and so they're willing to put up with impurity
in the teaching in order to shore up cash flow from the
less-than-sold-out-but-still-hoping masses. 

Edg
MUM tolerates stuff that it ordinarily wouldn't if a honcho happens to
endorse it. For instance, John Douglas allegedly cured Keith Wallace and
Jeanine Fellmer of Lyme disease, so he became cool on campus, even though
he's pretty far out there, selling expensive CDs that supposedly cause
angels to heal you if you listen to them. (But not if you listen to a copy
that you haven't paid for. The angels are hip to that and split the scene.)
I'll bet this Trivedi guy has made MUM nervous, and they're hoping he'll
just go away. But believe me, ostracizing Ed Malloy would really rock this
town. It would be MUM shooting itself in the foot with a bazooka, and I'm
sure they're aware of that. They'll cut him a lot more slack than they'd cut
someone like me. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary People

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:


There are many things that we don't know about how the mind functions.  
Apparently, this young man had bouts with epilepsy and a form of autism when he 
was a child.  And yet somehow he came out of these afflictions with a special 
gift.

In another documentary, a young man from Germany was able to develop his skills 
in math by memorizing the squares and cubes of numbers.  Although he flunked 
math in school, he was able to develop his skills when he was 21 years old.  It 
appears that he was able to spontaneously develop algorithms to come up with 
the quick solutions.  However, he is not technically considered a savant.  
Also, he has another odd skill of speaking backwards.  So, what can we say?

Concerning chess, the computer program that beat Kasparov essentially won by 
brute calculating force.  Kasparov said that he's never encountered a human 
being that played that way in competition.  I believe he's saying that there's 
a psychological aspect in playing chess among humans.  In other words, one 
can't intimidate the computer with some unusual moves as it only calculates the 
moves with cold algorithms.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
> > > 
> > > Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Interesting.
> > 
> > Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the 
> > Amanda Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
> > 
> > Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.
> >
> 
> 
> It was a big deal here,




Where is "here"?



> it had all the ingredients for a 
> juicy story. Sex, drugs, murder, innocents abroad, allegedly 
> incompetent/corrupt police.
> 
> Endless speculation in the press divided along editors ethical
> lines, was she fitted up or is she a cold-blooded killer?
> 
> General consensus among the lefty press is that they found
> her guilty to save face in the police dept even though there
> wasn't any real evidence and she'll be freed on appeal. The 
> right wing press consider her spawn of the devil and guilty 
> as charged. The rest of us wil probably never know.
> 
> > 
> > 
> > > To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
> > > ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
> > > Americans' fascination with media-fueled "crime stories."
> > > 
> > > But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
> > > periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
> > > my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
> > > better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
> > > the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
> > > ing. :-)
> > > 
> > > The worst so far is "Bad Girls Club," which seems to 
> > > be what they call a "reality show" in which they pit
> > > seven or eight megabitches against each other for
> > > several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
> > > out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
> > > 
> > > I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
> > > watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
> > > I did watch a few more old episodes of "Bones," and
> > > have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
> > > enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
> > > be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
> > > both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
> > > "anti-TM quotient."
> > > 
> > > Since my friends here can't get together with me until
> > > 10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
> > > resuming series "Fastforward" to see whether they'll be
> > > able to come up with anything interesting.
> > > 
> > > But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
> > > or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
> > > FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
> > > that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
> > > I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
> > > personality.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book 
> > > > "Angel Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox":
> > > > 
> > > > " Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
> > > > reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
> > > > rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
> > > > roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
> > > > convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
> > > > Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel 
> > > > Face, Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who 
> > > > cultivated personal relationships with the key figures in both the 
> > > > prosecution and the defense – describes how the Knox family's 
> > > > heavy-handed efforts to control media coverage distorted the facts, 
> > > > inflamed an American audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate 
> > > > picture of Italy's justice system. An eye-opener for any parent 
> > > > considering sending a child away to study, Angel Face reveals what 
> > > > really went on in this incomprehensible crime."
> > > > 
> > > > I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
> > > > (like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
> > > > after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite 
> > > > guilty.
> > > > 
> > > > Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
> > > > reaction to it?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater - Wednesday Night 7:30 PM

[Duveyoung]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:

> Ed Malloy would have to get pretty far off the program before the TMO would
> dare throw him out, and I'm sure they'd try to "talk sense" into him before
> they did so.


Rick, 

Your "nice guy addiction" is showing.  Do you really think the TMO would have 
any problem dumping a "mayor of a small town?"  Ed Malloy is far more dumpable 
than, say, Jerry Jarvis was in his day.  They might try to talk sense into him, 
but once they got it that he wasn't going to tow the line, he'd be out on his 
ass.  

If he doesn't get dumped, I'd say it was an example of the TMO seeing that it's 
on its last legs in FF, and so they're willing to put up with impurity in the 
teaching in order to shore up cash flow from the 
less-than-sold-out-but-still-hoping masses.  

Edg

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater - Wednesday Night 7:30 PM

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Buck
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:35 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Trivedi Lecture - Sondheim Theater -
Wednesday Night 7:30 PM
 
   Are movement building around Trivedi and going to do great things. >First
> stop was the TM movement to pick-up some volunteers, some capital,
> endorsements (the mayor and Vicki Malloy) 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Interesting that Malloy endorsed him because I doubt the TMO would. >I
> thought Malloy was pretty careful to toe the line.

Yeah that is interesting. Don't know if they've given up on the TM hats and
robes now. Trivedi in practice is very much like the lady saints.
Shakti,healing,sidhis,Patanjali-like spiritual practice
very much like the lady saints. His is just a guy expression of it.

Lot of TM meditators been thrown out of the domes for going to see spiritual
teachers just like Trivedi. The Malloys now too? 
 
Ed Malloy would have to get pretty far off the program before the TMO would
dare throw him out, and I'm sure they'd try to "talk sense" into him before
they did so.

[FairfieldLife] Texas Wingnut Education

[do.rflex]

Cartoon: http://www.bartcop.com/texas-books3.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Obama handles the Teabaggers

[do.rflex]

Cartoon: http://www.bartcop.com/teabagger-one-lump.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[PaliGap]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
> > 
> > Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
> > 
> 
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the Amanda 
> Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
> 
> Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.

Not so. Here in the UK it had enormous coverage.

I would say most people were bemused, didn't know what
to make of it. A very odd crime and a very odd story.


> > To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
> > ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
> > Americans' fascination with media-fueled "crime stories."
> > 
> > But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
> > periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
> > my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
> > better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
> > the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
> > ing. :-)
> > 
> > The worst so far is "Bad Girls Club," which seems to 
> > be what they call a "reality show" in which they pit
> > seven or eight megabitches against each other for
> > several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
> > out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
> > 
> > I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
> > watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
> > I did watch a few more old episodes of "Bones," and
> > have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
> > enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
> > be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
> > both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
> > "anti-TM quotient."
> > 
> > Since my friends here can't get together with me until
> > 10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
> > resuming series "Fastforward" to see whether they'll be
> > able to come up with anything interesting.
> > 
> > But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
> > or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
> > FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
> > that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
> > I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
> > personality.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book "Angel 
> > > Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox":
> > > 
> > > " Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
> > > reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
> > > rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
> > > roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
> > > convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
> > > Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
> > > Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
> > > personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and 
> > > the defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to 
> > > control media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American 
> > > audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice 
> > > system. An eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to 
> > > study, Angel Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible 
> > > crime."
> > > 
> > > I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
> > > (like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
> > > after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
> > > 
> > > Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
> > > reaction to it?
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Quartet calls for Palestinian state within two years

[do.rflex]

   HAARETZ Newspaper in Israel - The Quartet, which comprises members from 
Russia, the United States, the UN and the European Union, called Israel and the 
Palestinians to renew peace negotiations in order to achieve a two-state 
solution within 24 months. The members met in Moscow on Friday in an effort to 
defuse the latest crisis in peace efforts between Israel and the Palestinians.

"The Quartet believes these negotiations should lead to a settlement,
negotiated between the parties within 24 months, that ends the
occupation that began in 1967 and results in the emergence of an
independent, democratic and viable Palestinian state living side by side in 
peace and security with Israel and its other neighbors," said a joint statement 
read by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

"The Quartet reiterates that Arab-Israeli peace and the establishment of a 
peaceful state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza is in the
fundamental interest of the parties, of all states in the region, and of the 
international community," said the statement. "In this regard the Quartet calls 
on all states to support dialogues between the parties."

The mediators also called on Israel following their meeting to freeze
all settlement activities and denounced its recent decision to approve
construction of 1.600 new homes in East Jerusalem.

"The Quartet urges the government of Israel to freeze all settlement
activities ... and to refrain from demolitions and evictions," according to the 
statement read by Ban. The statement also condemned Israel's approval of the 
construction in East Jerusalem.

At the start of the talks, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said: "All of 
us today hope to arrive at some common conclusions which will help to promote 
the beginning of a dialogue between the two sides."

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in Moscow, discussed steps to
improve the outlook for Israeli-Palestinian peace by telephone with
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday.

Netanyahu's spokesman Nir Chefetz said the Israeli leader had proposed
some "mutual confidence-building steps" that both Israel and the
Palestinians could take in the West Bank. He declined to spell these out.

Clinton met her Russian counterpart Lavrov, UN Secretary General Ban
Ki-moon, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and Quartet
Representative Tony Blair over a closed dinner on Thursday evening
before Friday's formal meeting.

No details of that meeting were disclosed.

"We intend to have a very broad-ranging discussion with our Quartet
partners," Clinton said at a joint news conference with Lavrov on
Thursday. "Our goals remain the same. It is to re-launch negotiations
between the Israelis and the Palestinians on a path that will lead to a 
two-state solution."

The Quartet was formed in 2002 in Spain to assist in mediating an end to 
escalating violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It last met on the 
margins of the UN General Assembly in September.

But its results so far have been meagre, leading some analysts to
dismiss it as an expensive club for diplomats.

Moscow had originally hoped to organise a full-scale international
conference on the Middle East this year but the lack of progress on
Israeli-Palestinian peace talks has forced Russia to settle instead for hosting 
a quartet meeting.

Biden: East Jerusalem decision designed to undermine peace process

Meanwhile, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden has called Israel's decision to 
approve 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem week "provocative", adding that it 
was "obviously designed by some in Israel to undermine a peace process George 
Mitchell finally got - our negotiator - finally got back on track."

In an interview with ABC's Nightline which will air on Friday night,
Biden reiterated that "Israel's security is undeniably in our interest
to make sure it is absolutely secure" and Washington and Jerusalem to
"get over" the recent tensions that flared in response to the announcement.

"And so the message is: We've got to get over this," Biden said.
"Granted, I condemn the announcement made by that planning council. 
...The irony is even that planning council acknowledging not a single new unit 
can be built at least for a year and maybe never will be built, it was 
provocative."

The Interior Ministry's decision was made public during Biden's visit to Israel 
last week, a move the United States termed an "insult" as it came amid U.S. 
efforts to see Middle East peace negotiations renewed.

In the interview, Biden denied reports that he had told Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu that Israel's policy on settlements puts U.S. troops at risk.

"No, I never said that," Biden told ABC

---UPDATED: 

[Hard right-winger Avigdor] Lieberman on Quartet call: You can't makeartificial 
peace

   FOREIGN Minister Avigdor Lieberman responded Friday to the Quartet
of Middle East peace mediators' call to relaunch Israeli-Palestinian
peace negotiations, saying that peace is not something 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraordinary People

[PaliGap]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Here's a documentary of a young man with a gift for 
calculating numbers.  He was able to memorize the pi to the 
20,000th place after the decimal point.  He's considered a 
savant but not an idiot.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTIApotjNI4&feature=related
>

This was amazing John. Really one of the most extraordinary
things I've seen!

The strangest thing is that he seems to *perceive*
mathematical objects (as opposed to just having a
phenomenal memory and a special facility for mental
arithmetic. I mean he doesn't work it out *in his head*
in the way that you or I might do on a piece of paper).

It suggest to me two things: (1) the puzzle of consciousness
(of course), but also (2) perhaps it shows up something
about the nature of mathematics (that it is *really* out
there in a way that Plato would be cheerful to accept).

Perhaps our minds are not *machines* at all. Take chess.
We now have software and supercomputers that are capable 
of beating the best humans. But for all that, computers
don't play chess the way that humans do. It's true that
a chess grand master is looking ahead and calculating
future moves (which is the ONLY approach available to a
computer). But that's not all he/she is doing (and cannot
possibly begin to do that as well as a computer). Instead
I suspect that a Bobby Fischer or a Kasparov might answer
much as does Daniel Tammet here: That they *see* the 
bigger picture, the strategic situation, and solutions
to it, perhaps in emotional terms, or as in synesthesia.

I'm not sure of my ground here, but I wonder if Godel's
incompleteness theorem means that, however powerful a
chess computer you can build, it is always *possible*
that a human could win (but not very often!). And that's
because our minds are not *computers*?

"Gödel's Theorem has been used to argue that a computer can 
never be as smart as a human being because the extent of its 
knowledge is limited by a fixed set of axioms, whereas people 
can discover unexpected truths"

"Although this theorem can be stated and proved in a 
rigorously mathematical way, what it seems to say is that 
rational thought can never penetrate to the final ultimate 
truth ... But, paradoxically, to understand Gödel's proof is 
to find a sort of liberation. For many logic students, the 
final breakthrough to full understanding of the Incompleteness 
Theorem is practically a conversion experience. This is partly 
a by-product of the potent mystique Gödel's name carries. But, 
more profoundly, to understand the essentially labyrinthine 
nature of the castle is, somehow, to be free of it."

;-)

http://www.miskatonic.org/godel.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[curtisdeltablues]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
> > 
> > Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
> > 
> 
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the Amanda 
> Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
> 
> Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.

Fascination with sensational crime stories is a universal human trait.  The 
"evil outsider" committing a crime is an Italian archetype perhaps more than in 
other countries.  And 'outsider" can mean from the next valley over. 


> 
> 
> 
> > To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
> > ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
> > Americans' fascination with media-fueled "crime stories."
> > 
> > But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
> > periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
> > my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
> > better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
> > the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
> > ing. :-)
> > 
> > The worst so far is "Bad Girls Club," which seems to 
> > be what they call a "reality show" in which they pit
> > seven or eight megabitches against each other for
> > several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
> > out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
> > 
> > I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
> > watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
> > I did watch a few more old episodes of "Bones," and
> > have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
> > enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
> > be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
> > both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
> > "anti-TM quotient."
> > 
> > Since my friends here can't get together with me until
> > 10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
> > resuming series "Fastforward" to see whether they'll be
> > able to come up with anything interesting.
> > 
> > But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
> > or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
> > FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
> > that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
> > I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
> > personality.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book "Angel 
> > > Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox":
> > > 
> > > " Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
> > > reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
> > > rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
> > > roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
> > > convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
> > > Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
> > > Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
> > > personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and 
> > > the defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to 
> > > control media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American 
> > > audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice 
> > > system. An eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to 
> > > study, Angel Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible 
> > > crime."
> > > 
> > > I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
> > > (like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
> > > after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
> > > 
> > > Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
> > > reaction to it?
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[curtisdeltablues]

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:

What have you found Shemp?  I know a little about this crazy Italian prosecutor 
(under indictment in other cases for misconduct and abuse of power)  from the 
book The Monster of Florence where he tried to run this whole satanic cult 
routine on an American journalist who was writing a book about a serial killer. 
 That story was so parallel to what happened to Amanda that I'm still in the 
innocent camp.

They have a ton of real forensic evidence on the guy they convicted first.  
What makes you think there is more to the story than the one guy with a rape 
motive who was not friends with Amanda doing the crime?  And she would have to 
be really in cahoots with him because she mistakenly fingered another guy 
during the prolonged interrogation. An obviously innocent guy.  A desperate 
move of a terrified girl. So she would have to be willing to go to jail rather 
than give the guy up.  Why?  He fled  the country and Amanda and boyfriend 
stuck around and phoned in the crime.  Then the guy they first convicted got 
caught and brought back to Italy doesn't immediately give up Amanda or the 
boyfriend either.  He holds out until they give him a deal specifically for 
saying they were involved later.

And comparing the family "inflaming" the American public to the inflaming 
articles in Italy with a non sequestered jury seems a bit much. A charge that 
the parents manipulated the media seems far fetched, it makes just as good a 
story either way. The judge basically said there was no motive.  She just 
happened to get together with a drifter criminal and due to the consumption of  
stupefacente (refer madness)commit bloody murder? It was a total Helter Skelter 
scene with such a small amount of trace of Amanda and boyfriend that the it was 
destroyed by the prosecutor's testing so the defense couldn't have it 
independently tested.


I would love to have my perspective rocked on this, where should I go, what 
blogs?



>
> The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book "Angel 
> Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox":
> 
> " Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
> reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
> rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
> roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
> convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
> Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
> Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
> personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and the 
> defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to control 
> media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American audience, and 
> painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice system. An 
> eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to study, Angel 
> Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible crime."
> 
> I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories (like 
> 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But after reading 
> several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
> 
> Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
> reaction to it?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry: what can you tell us of Europe's reaction to Amanda Knox?

[Hugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > I don't know who Amanda Knox is and don't care. 
> > 
> > Most Europeans I know wouldn't know or care, either.
> > 
> 
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Most media accounts I've read or seen here specifically said that the Amanda 
> Knox case was gripping all of Europe.
> 
> Anther thing they got wrong, I suppose.
>


It was a big deal here, it had all the ingredients for a 
juicy story. Sex, drugs, murder, innocents abroad, allegedly 
incompetent/corrupt police.

Endless speculation in the press divided along editors ethical
lines, was she fitted up or is she a cold-blooded killer?

General consensus among the lefty press is that they found
her guilty to save face in the police dept even though there
wasn't any real evidence and she'll be freed on appeal. The 
right wing press consider her spawn of the devil and guilty 
as charged. The rest of us wil probably never know.

> 
> 
> > To be honest, if you had asked me this question a week
> > ago, I would have said that I simply don't understand
> > Americans' fascination with media-fueled "crime stories."
> > 
> > But now I've been stuck in my hotel room for extended
> > periods of time waiting for conference calls with only
> > my TV and remote control to amuse me, and I understand
> > better. The programming on American TV is so bad that
> > the crime stories on the news are often more entertain-
> > ing. :-)
> > 
> > The worst so far is "Bad Girls Club," which seems to 
> > be what they call a "reality show" in which they pit
> > seven or eight megabitches against each other for
> > several days to see who can dirty-trick the others
> > out of the running for Big Bitch. Horrific.
> > 
> > I must admit to not having discovered anything I wasn't
> > watching already that I feel like continuing to watch.
> > I did watch a few more old episodes of "Bones," and
> > have come to like Zooey Deschanel's sister Emily. Not
> > enough to keep watching the series, but she seems to
> > be a better actress than Zooey. And they could easily
> > both be TM meditators, so that may even reduces my 
> > "anti-TM quotient."
> > 
> > Since my friends here can't get together with me until
> > 10:00 tonight, I'm looking forward to watching the
> > resuming series "Fastforward" to see whether they'll be
> > able to come up with anything interesting.
> > 
> > But I haven't been able to make it through more than 2
> > or 3 minutes of *any* news show. Enough to realize that
> > FOX is even more over-the-top than I thought it was, and
> > that sadly most of the others aren't that far behind. So
> > I'm really not the person to ask about some news story
> > personality.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The following is from amazon.com's product description of the book "Angel 
> > > Face: the true story of student killer Amanda Knox":
> > > 
> > > " Despite all the airtime devoted to Amanda Knox, it's still hard to 
> > > reconcile the fresh-faced honor student from Seattle with the sexually 
> > > rapacious killer convicted of the November 2007 murder of her British 
> > > roommate. Few Americans have heard all of the powerful evidence that 
> > > convinced a jury that Knox was one of three people to sexually assault 
> > > Meredith Kercher, brutalize her body, and cut her throat. In Angel Face, 
> > > Rome-based Daily Beast senior writer Barbie Latza Nadeau – who cultivated 
> > > personal relationships with the key figures in both the prosecution and 
> > > the defense – describes how the Knox family's heavy-handed efforts to 
> > > control media coverage distorted the facts, inflamed an American 
> > > audience, and painted an offensive, inaccurate picture of Italy's justice 
> > > system. An eye-opener for any parent considering sending a child away to 
> > > study, Angel Face reveals what really went on in this incomprehensible 
> > > crime."
> > > 
> > > I certainly was hoodwinked by several American news magazine stories 
> > > (like 20/20 and Dateline) into believing that Knox was innocent.  But 
> > > after reading several blogs to the contrary, I believe she's quite guilty.
> > > 
> > > Barry, are you aware of this case and, if so, can you give us Europe's 
> > > reaction to it?
> > >
> >
>