[FairfieldLife] Are these the most translated books in the whole world?

[cardemaister]

1. The Bible

2. IKEA's catalogue?

3. Don Quijote?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

[James Peterson]

" 15   Million   with  interest.. " i  kinda-sorta    likes    THAT   
an.. can   like   relate to THAT

jam-es-SAN

*  15   Years= 15  Million

NO  need  to  be  greedy  however;   10   Million   will  suffice   WITH A 
SUBSTANTIAL FRONT-PAGE    HYDRAULICALLY   FUCKING  OVER   APOLOGY   SIR!!!



From: gullible fool 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:10 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in 
prison

  
Stoneham —
Dr. Timothy Stryker, the Winchester doctor who prosecutors believe played a 
role 17 years ago in the death of his then-girlfriend, Dr. Linda Goudey of 
Stoneham, died of pancreatic cancer Wednesday, Jan. 12, at the Lemuel Shattuck 
Hospital in Boston, according to Diane Wiffin, spokeswoman for the Department 
of Corrections.
Stryker was serving a four-year state prison sentence after pleading guilty in 
2009 to orchestrating and directing a perjury conspiracy in connection with the 
murder of Goudey, an obstetrician who was 42 years old when she was found 
strangled to death in her car in the parking garage of a Stoneham hospital in 
October 1993.
Stryker, of Winchester, was investigated but never criminally charged with her 
death. But in 2006 a jury returned a civil verdict finding Stryker responsible 
for the wrongful death of Goudey. Stryker was ordered to pay Goudey’s family 
more than $7 million, which has increased to $15 million with interest.
Attorney Michael Altman, who represented Goudey’s family in the civil case, 
said that in the last year or two, they were able to get whatever part of that 
$15 million they could from Stryker, which wasn’t anywhere near that figure. 
Stryker, who had a wife and three children, was forced to sell his home as part 
of the settlement. His wife divorced him. Now, besides a small amount left in 
his IRA, Stryker’s estate will provide no more monetary retribution for 
Goudey’s family, according to Altman.
“He died with no assets and in prison,” said Altman. “But the family wasn’t in 
this for the money. They were in it to make up for the fact that Timothy was 
never prosecuted. They got an overwhelming verdict [in civil court] that 
Timothy did it.”
“He ended up in jail and his life ended in jail, which was an appropriate place 
for his life to end. The verdict of getting whatever property they could and 
getting him in jail are what was the just result,” he added. “The only 
unfortunate thing is that he wasn’t prosecuted before he died. I know District 
Attorney Leone and his office felt cheated that there was no opportunity to 
complete the prosecution, and we certainly feel cheated their was no 
opportunity to take him before the criminal jury.”
Goudey’s loved ones, the Rafuse family, said Stryker’s death is “bittersweet 
irony.”
“We have always believed he was responsible for her death and his untimely end 
is only a small vindication for a life lost, but now we are forever deprived of 
ever hearing his own admission and giving us full closure,” the family said 
recently in a written statement.
“Linda made extraordinary contributions to the world of mothers and babies, so 
the end of this chapter means we can now completely focus on recognizing her 
life through our family foundation effort to give back to her world in her 
memory.”
History
Stryker and Goudey had a four-year relationship until Oct. 4, 1993, when 
Goudey’s body was found in her locked Saab at New England Memorial Hospital.
In filing a motion for a new trial, Stryker included an affidavit from a 
witness who claimed to have seen Goudey in her car in the parking lot with 
another man.
District Attorney Gerry Leone investigated and determined that Stryker and one 
of his patients, Richard Chambers, 44, told the witness to fabricate the story 
in exchange for a promised payoff of thousands of dollars, officials said.
“Stryker orchestrated the most serious of frauds upon the court and attempted 
to frustrate our criminal investigation into the murder of Dr. Goudey,” Leone 
said at the time.
Stryker, who always maintained his innocence, remained a suspect in Goudey’s 
death.
“He’s been adamant with me: ‘I did not commit this murder,’” said Kevin 
Mahoney, Stryker’s attorney, in 2009.
But District Attorney Leone feels differently.
“[The] news of Timothy Stryker’s death is both sad and disappointing,” said 
Leone, who worked on the case years ago as an assistant district attorney. 
“Sad, in that he leaves behind a wife and three daughters. Disappointing, in 
that we had an active investigation into his suspected killing of Dr. Linda 
Goudey, and were encouraged by the progress we were making, and confident that 
we would be able to provide some measure of closure and justice in the criminal 
courts for Lin’s family.”
“With his death today, we will be forced to close the book on our criminal 
investigation, as Stryker was, and remains, our only suspect,” he added.
Both Leone and the Rafuse family aske

[FairfieldLife] Stoneham doctor's alleged killer, Stryker, dies in prison

[gullible fool]

Stoneham —Dr. Timothy Stryker, the Winchester doctor who prosecutors believe 
played a role 17 years ago in the death of his then-girlfriend, Dr. Linda 
Goudey of Stoneham, died of pancreatic cancer Wednesday, Jan. 12, at the Lemuel 
Shattuck Hospital in Boston, according to Diane Wiffin, spokeswoman for the 
Department of Corrections.Stryker was serving a four-year state prison sentence 
after pleading guilty in 2009 to orchestrating and directing a perjury 
conspiracy in connection with the murder of Goudey, an obstetrician who was 42 
years old when she was found strangled to death in her car in the parking 
garage of a Stoneham hospital in October 1993.Stryker, of Winchester, was 
investigated but never criminally charged with her death. But in 2006 a jury 
returned a civil verdict finding Stryker responsible for the wrongful death of 
Goudey. Stryker was ordered to pay Goudey’s family more than $7 million, which 
has increased to $15 million with
 interest.Attorney Michael Altman, who represented Goudey’s family in the civil 
case, said that in the last year or two, they were able to get whatever part of 
that $15 million they could from Stryker, which wasn’t anywhere near that 
figure. Stryker, who had a wife and three children, was forced to sell his home 
as part of the settlement. His wife divorced him. Now, besides a small amount 
left in his IRA, Stryker’s estate will provide no more monetary retribution for 
Goudey’s family, according to Altman.“He died with no assets and in prison,” 
said Altman. “But the family wasn’t in this for the money. They were in it to 
make up for the fact that Timothy was never prosecuted. They got an 
overwhelming verdict [in civil court] that Timothy did it.”“He ended up in jail 
and his life ended in jail, which was an appropriate place for his life to end. 
The verdict of getting whatever property they could and getting him in jail are 
what was the
 just result,” he added. “The only unfortunate thing is that he wasn’t 
prosecuted before he died. I know District Attorney Leone and his office felt 
cheated that there was no opportunity to complete the prosecution, and we 
certainly feel cheated their was no opportunity to take him before the criminal 
jury.”Goudey’s loved ones, the Rafuse family, said Stryker’s death is 
“bittersweet irony.”“We have always believed he was responsible for her death 
and his untimely end is only a small vindication for a life lost, but now we 
are forever deprived of ever hearing his own admission and giving us full 
closure,” the family said recently in a written statement.“Linda made 
extraordinary contributions to the world of mothers and babies, so the end of 
this chapter means we can now completely focus on recognizing her life through 
our family foundation effort to give back to her world in her 
memory.”HistoryStryker and Goudey had a four-year
 relationship until Oct. 4, 1993, when Goudey’s body was found in her locked 
Saab at New England Memorial Hospital.In filing a motion for a new trial, 
Stryker included an affidavit from a witness who claimed to have seen Goudey in 
her car in the parking lot with another man.District Attorney Gerry Leone 
investigated and determined that Stryker and one of his patients, Richard 
Chambers, 44, told the witness to fabricate the story in exchange for a 
promised payoff of thousands of dollars, officials said.“Stryker orchestrated 
the most serious of frauds upon the court and attempted to frustrate our 
criminal investigation into the murder of Dr. Goudey,” Leone said at the 
time.Stryker, who always maintained his innocence, remained a suspect in 
Goudey’s death.“He’s been adamant with me: ‘I did not commit this murder,’” 
said Kevin Mahoney, Stryker’s attorney, in 2009.But District Attorney Leone 
feels differently.“[The] news of Timothy
 Stryker’s death is both sad and disappointing,” said Leone, who worked on the 
case years ago as an assistant district attorney. “Sad, in that he leaves 
behind a wife and three daughters. Disappointing, in that we had an active 
investigation into his suspected killing of Dr. Linda Goudey, and were 
encouraged by the progress we were making, and confident that we would be able 
to provide some measure of closure and justice in the criminal courts for Lin’s 
family.”“With his death today, we will be forced to close the book on our 
criminal investigation, as Stryker was, and remains, our only suspect,” he 
added.Both Leone and the Rafuse family asked that anyone with information on 
the 
cashttp://www.wickedlocal.com/stoneham/breaking/x100916626/Stoneham-womans-alleged-killer-Stryker-dies-in-prison
"Under the influence of maya, Brahman appears as Ishvara, the personal God, who 
exists on the celestial level of life, in the subtlest field of creation. In a 
similar manner, under the influence of avidya, atman appears as jiva, or 
individual soul."  - MMY


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you for not breeding

[m 13]

WHAT!?
Who s "lifestyle" do we have to 'sustain'?Seems to me that the 'progress '  
that has come has really been no progress at all. Simpler lifestyles are to be 
sustained. Not this tear up the world and tear up cellular structures to 
"improve" cheese  or tomatoes, cross breeding them w fish cells, and taking 
heart medicine and plugging it into the corn. It is all beautiful the way it 
was- talk about courage- hey i got the kahunas to tell you it was and is 
beautiful the way it was made- it does not need to be altered, as if something 
is missing or * shudders*  FORGOT. God is Divine. In His Divinity He made 
everything and it was Good. The land is good. To say otherwise is blasphemy.I 
hope you breathe in the wisp of what I am conveying. The Indians had it 
right.Seems like the Amish do too, as I mop up my leaking roof (downstairs) 
from my leaking toilet (upstairs).I don't have all the answers. I believe God 
is God. Simplify. Let it Be.Let life EXIST.My
 point before was let life come.There will be provision for it ALL. Perhaps not 
in the way we are used to now. and so what? Change, smange. God, being Divine, 
and the earth , being full of God's Intent, which is a good intent, will adapt 
, and grow different more chock full of life giving plants& organisms/or we 
will 'discover' them- as they were not needed so urgently before. Civilization? 
Keeping up the status quo? Be concerned with all Beings coming to see.I mean 
See ; with a capital S. 

Contribute to ending suffering. There is ANOTHER WAY.





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> I'd say wrong:
>  
> (a) doesn't define "Will"; and no evidence is provided to support such a Will 
> as a premise, and why the Transcendental Absolute is in Sync with such a 
> Will. 

* * * I am speaking of the nondual understanding that what IS, is unspeakably 
perfect, simply because it IS. We can call it the "will of God" if we like, or 
not, if we like. By definition, though, when we resist what actually IS in this 
moment (e.g. when we think things "should" be other than they are), we separate 
ourselves from the whole (God); we lie and we suffer; therefore, for all 
intents and purposes, what IS is what has traditionally been called the "will 
of God" -- except it is even more inexorable than God's will has been 
conventionally understoos to be, if that is possible :-)

 > (b) Dharma could be a more useful term.

* * * Dharma is an entirely different animal, at least as it is conventionally 
understood, for it is full of "shoulds" and "oughts". If however we understand 
true dharma, true balance, as consciously surrendering our separateness and 
resistance into full alignment with the perfection of what IS, then yes, true 
dharma is alignment with the "will of God."

 > (c) The notion that E'd are "always following the will of God" is 
 > speculative rubbish.

* * * Actually, that the Enlightened (or Awakened, as I prefer) are "always 
following the will of God" is simply the experiential fact. But again, everyone 
is following the will of God, whether they are aware of it or not. The Awakened 
are simply more aware of what IS, that's all.

> (d) If anything, historical evidence surrounding Guru behavior during the 
> last 50 years supports the notion that anybody can go against the will of 
> Godi.e. IF it's possible for ANYBODY to counteract the Will of God in 
> view of Judy's outstanding post. Thanks, Judy, fuel for thought!
>
* * * Judy is correct; it is not possible for anyone to counteract the "will of 
God," from Our point of view at any rate. However, it is entirely possible for 
people to resist what IS, to separate themselves from what IS and lie about it 
("it should be different"), and thereby suffer and cause suffering by their 
resistance and lying.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

[yifuxero]

I'd say wrong:
 
(a) doesn't define "Will"; and no evidence is provided to support such a Will 
as a premise, and why the Transcendental Absolute is in Sync with such a Will. 

(b) Dharma could be a more useful term.

(c) The notion that E'd are "always following the will of God" is speculative 
rubbish.

(d) If anything, historical evidence surrounding Guru behavior during the last 
50 years supports the notion that anybody can go against the will of 
Godi.e. IF it's possible for ANYBODY to counteract the Will of God in view 
of Judy's outstanding post. Thanks, Judy, fuel for thought!
http://www.fantasygallery.net/fishel/art_9_The-Magician.html

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> I would say your Dad was right; the will of God is everything that IS, and 
> also that you are right: when you are "enlightened" (or Awakened into 
> nonduality at any rate) you *know* that everything is perfect, and so you are 
> always following the will of God, consciously supported by and surrendered 
> into the Love of All of Us :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307"  wrote:
> >
> > My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi and 
> > another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the will of 
> > God.  But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God is 
> > everything.  It seems like something is missing from his understanding. 
> > Does anyone have a comment on this?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

[RoryGoff]

I would say your Dad was right; the will of God is everything that IS, and also 
that you are right: when you are "enlightened" (or Awakened into nonduality at 
any rate) you *know* that everything is perfect, and so you are always 
following the will of God, consciously supported by and surrendered into the 
Love of All of Us :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307"  wrote:
>
> My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi and 
> another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the will of 
> God.  But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God is 
> everything.  It seems like something is missing from his understanding. Does 
> anyone have a comment on this?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

Right; many thanks -- good to see you "in the flesh" also!

FWIW, when the Kundalini first awoke in me on TTC, it definitely began in the 
left big toe  (primarily) and worked its way up the foot as a kind of 
electrical current, and on up the leg. It was not until it reached the tailbone 
and began a strongly pulsing "second heartbeat" there that I was sure of what 
it was, however. 

(Over the next week or so it then progressed up through the body, pulsing ever 
faster and more powerfully through the chakras, and finally pulled me as a 
subtle body out the top of the head...) 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > > 
> > > On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
> > > 
> > > > * * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have 
> > > > been shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; 
> > > > dhyana is in the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in 
> > > > the "avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow.
> 
> Here's what MMY has said about the Chakras Rory, FYI (if you haven't already 
> hear it).  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> Leroy Goff.  I like that.

* * * Thanks. Actually M. LeRoy Goff, the 1Vth and last, but my mother had pity 
on me and gave me "Rory" at birth :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[authfriend]

If this graphic comes through, it speaks for itself. Pretty chilling.

If it doesn't come through, you can find it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/29/technology/internet/29cutoff.html


It's a graph of Internet traffic to and from Egypt before and after the
government shut it off.



 
[http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/01/28/technology/20110129_CUTO\
FF_INLINE/20110129_CUTOFF_INLINE-articleInline.jpg]




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Live and direct from Cairo courtesy of Al-Jazeera:
> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/al-jazeera/
>
> This summer is going to be a riot!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:15 PM, blusc0ut wrote:
> 
> >> Many of his ideas are taken directly from that tradition.
> >> 
> >> The Mother was of course famous for descending into the muladhara-chakra 
> >> for her realization.
> > 
> > Interesting take on her transformational work. Wonder what she would have 
> > said to that.
> 
> It was her, I believe, in one of her journals, her or Sat Prem, that 
> commented that Aurobindo had this expansion into the cosmos beyond the upper 
> chakras where he was realized. She choose the direction beyond the cellular, 
> deep into the material, into the reverse "direction". Prakriti and Purusha, 
> the two.

* * * Oh yes, that reminds me -- I would probably put the two exterior limbs of 
Yoga, Yama and Niyama, in the foot (Prakriti = doing) and the crown (Purusha = 
not-doing), respectively :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> I personally have never experienced you as that, Rick. I suppose if you keep 
> trying though -lol...seriously though, I don't know where Nabs gets that 
> notion. 
> 
* * * Yes, me neither, Rick. Curious about MMY's "human side" -- definitely; 
"bashing" -- not so much (i.e., no) :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
>
> Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it was even 
> forbidden at a time and not played by the BBC out of the accusation that it 
> was glorifying LSD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d4wWGK4Ig
> which is of course rubbish, as the Beatles explained. John lennon wanted his 
> voice obviously to sound like the Dalai Lama from a hilltop.
> 
> "(5) the end of one cycle is always the beginning of another"
> 
> I wonder, just watching the Aljazeera egypt broadcast, how that would apply 
> to the present situation in the TM movement, which looks like it is in a 
> state of induced coma. Hasn't Maharishi said, the movement belongs to those 
> who move? Hasn't he said in an interview before his death, that all the 
> initiators are his successors.
> 
> As Judy pointed out recently, nature may 'want' something else despite of our 
> choices. And that may apply to the movement itself. (See, I don't think the 
> Maharishi Effect, if it exists, necessarily always works the way 
> we--including Maharishi--expect or intend it to.) What I am trying to aim at 
> is, that all the crazyness of the movement recently, Rajaism etc. could be 
> just a means to wake the people in the movement up. Obviously nobody in the 
> upper movement has the balls to do something essential to save it. All look 
> paralyzed at each other it seems. Just a thought.
> 
* * * Yes, who knows? 

For me, the TMO, like all of Life, is basically a marvelous Rorschach test; we 
see whatever we need to see in order to feel whatever we need to feel in any 
given moment! :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that
> is anything less than worshipful "bashing".

Joe, I don't think you really "notice" this. I think
you just have the sense that it sounds like it ought to
be true.

I'm not saying it's never happened; it's the "many" I'm
questioning.

As Rick challenged Nabby, I'll challenge you to find
examples in the archives. I don't think you'll find 
"many." But if you do--let's say, at least five people
(which isn't really "many," but let's be generous)--
quote them here and let's see if anyone else agrees
that the folks accused of "bashing" have never done it.

You know, what's sauce for the goose and all that...




> So much easier to see the world in black and white rather
> than a multitude of shades (as I know you do.)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nabby,
> > 
> > I was thinking about your reference to me as a "Maharishi
> > Basher". I challenge you to find a single post in the FFL
> > archives in which I have "bashed" Maharishi. If you find
> > one in which you think I'm doing so, we'll see if anyone
> > else agrees.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307"  wrote:
>
> My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to
> maharishi and another book I read: when you are elightened
> you always follow the will of God.  But he said that God is
> everything therefor the will of God is everything.  It seems
> like something is missing from his understanding. Does anyone
> have a comment on this?

Something's missing from that *explanation*. If the will of
God is everything, how could anybody, enlightened or otherwise,
*not* always follow the will of God?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:49 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

>
>
> But can we trust this video?  Everyone knows there is little wind in Cairo,
> and yet there is a flag in the upper corner blowing strongly.  Also, did you
> notice the shadows?  If this were shot near midday, those shadows should
> have been a little longer.  I think I need to see a little stonger evidence.
>
>
The Nile River is in a valley that averages about 20 miles wide.  Yup,
that's how big the Nile's been. The wind rips through the Nile Valley and
propels falukas (Egyptian sale boats) very readily.  I know people who took
a holiday and traveled, via faluka all the way from the tip of Upper Egypt
to Alexandria.  I've experienced two dust/rain storms along the Nile.   Car
windows blown right out by the wind.   Every door in my flat blown open,
every horizontal surface in my flat covered with 1/2 inch of dust/silt.
What I've experienced in Phoenix and Tucson before a rainstorm kicked the
dust around literally sandblasting the paint off of cars was a walk in the
garden compared to the storms, particularly wind I've experienced in Egypt.
Now on the edges of the valley the wind kicks up even more furiously.
Reminded me when I lived 20 miles west of Phoenix and got on a bicycle
towards dark and rode east 10 miles without ever having to peddle, air
cooling and shrinking as the sun went down.

But you're trying to make a joke here.  Give it up.  Not even bacteria can
live passing through the Van Allen Belt.  We didn't go to the moon.

Anyone else get the feeling that Obama was not talking to Mubarak but
directly to the people of Egypt during his speech?  I have met so many
military men.  Young, naive, wanting to be hip.   Military service is
compulsory and the less schooling you get, the longer your service.   Small
wonder the troops were cheered into Cairo.   Remember, Sadat was gunned down
by the military.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

[yifuxero]

Seek out the Spud-man and peel; mix with veggies and make a soup. This will do. 
It is the Will of God.

http://www.startlingart.com/Viewer.asp?ImageSource=fine_art&FileName=ng4heaven


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> I don't know if this will help, but the way I have always understood it
> is, God had a son named Billy.  But everyone called him Will for short. 
> And because he was the son of God, everyone always followed him.  This
> Will of God was everything to God.  And people thought that if they
> continued to follow Will, they would curry favor with God, and he would
> bestow enlightenment on them, and then they would definitely follow the
> Will of God forever.  At least this is how I explained it to my Dad, and
> it seemed to work.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307"  wrote:
> >
> > My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi
> and another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the
> will of God. But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God
> is everything. It seems like something is missing from his
> understanding. Does anyone have a comment on this?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[yifuxero]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Man_who_fell_to_earth_ver1.jpg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> Another one of my favorite artists David Bowie and his song about 
> transcending, Changes:
> 
> Oh, yeah
> Mmm
> 
> Still don't know what I was waitin' for
> And my time was runnin' wild
> A million dead end streets and
> Every time I thought I'd got it made
> It seemed the taste was not so sweet
> So I turned myself to face me
> But I've never caught a glimpse of
> How the others must see the faker
> I'm much too fast to take that test
> 
> Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
> Turn and face the strange
> Ch-ch-changes
> Don't want to be a richer man
> Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
> Turn and face the strange
> Ch-ch-changes
> Just gonna have to be a different man
> Time may change me
> But I can't trace time
> Mmm, yeah
> 
> I watch the ripples change their size
> But never leave the stream
> Of warm impermanence
> So the days float through my eyes
> But still the days seem the same
> And these children that you spit on
> As they try to change their worlds
> Are immune to your consultations
> They're quite aware of what they're goin' through
> 
> Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
> Turn and face the strange
> Ch-ch-changes
> Don't tell them to grow up and out of it
> Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
> Turn and face the strange
> Ch-ch-changes
> Where's your shame?
> You've left us up to our necks in it
> Time may change me
> But you can't trace time
> 
> Strange fascination, fascinatin'
> Ah, changes are takin'
> The pace I'm goin' through
> 
> Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
> Turn and face the strange
> Ch-ch-changes
> Oh, look out you rock 'n' rollers
> Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
> Turn and face the strange
> Ch-ch-changes
> Pretty soon now you're gonna get older
> Time may change me
> But I can't trace time
> I said that time may change me
> But I can't trace time
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ahem. The BBC's contention just might have something to
> > > do with the fact that the words to this song were lifted
> > > verbatim from "The Psychedelic Experience," by Leary,
> > > Metzger, and Alpert. :-)
> > 
> > Well, the first line is, more or less. The original reads:
> > 
> > "Whenever in doubt, turn off your mind, relax, float downstream."
> > 
> > The rest of the words are Lennon's.
> > 
> > http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/psychedelic_experience/psychedelic_experience.shtml
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/2fapf
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > That book was a loose reworking of the Tibetan Book of
> > > the Dead, and was pretty much the User's Manual for LSD.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it 
> > > < was even forbidden at a time and not played by the BBC out 
> > > > of the accusation that it was glorifying LSD 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d4wWGK4Ig
> > > > which is of course rubbish, as the Beatles explained. John 
> > > > lennon wanted his voice obviously to sound like the Dalai 
> > > > Lama from a hilltop.
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or put another way ;-) :
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Turn off your mind, relax
> > > > > > and float down stream
> > > > > > It is not dying
> > > > > > It is not dying
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Lay down all thought
> > > > > > Surrender to the void
> > > > > > It is shining
> > > > > > It is shining
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That you may see
> > > > > > The meaning of within
> > > > > > It is being
> > > > > > It is being
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That love is all
> > > > > > And love is everyone
> > > > > > It is knowing
> > > > > > It is knowing
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That ignorance and hate
> > > > > > May mourn the dead
> > > > > > It is believing
> > > > > > It is believing
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But listen to the
> > > > > > color of your dreams
> > > > > > It is not living
> > > > > > It is not living
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Or play the game of 
> > > > > > existence to the end
> > > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > > Of the beginning
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The will of God

[seventhray1]

I don't know if this will help, but the way I have always understood it
is, God had a son named Billy.  But everyone called him Will for short. 
And because he was the son of God, everyone always followed him.  This
Will of God was everything to God.  And people thought that if they
continued to follow Will, they would curry favor with God, and he would
bestow enlightenment on them, and then they would definitely follow the
Will of God forever.  At least this is how I explained it to my Dad, and
it seemed to work.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shainm307"  wrote:
>
> My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi
and another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the
will of God. But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God
is everything. It seems like something is missing from his
understanding. Does anyone have a comment on this?
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 10:33 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > I've read most of the English-translated Aurobindo and I've never read 
> > anything even remotely associated with what I'd consider the spontaneous 
> > "vision" of todgal.
> >
> Silly Boy!  It's not from that tradition. It's a combination of the "naugual, 
> and the "tonal" . 

http://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/thod_rgal

http://rywiki.tsadra.org/index.php/four_visions

thod rgal
1) with stages skipped / out of order, bypass [the gradual steps], skip the 
grades; 2) All-surpassing realization of spontaneous presence [gd]; 3) 
[instantaneous] passing over, by passing [lit. to for the skull] overpass, 
instantaneous directness, crossing [over/ above/ in 1 leap/ in leaps and 
bounds.; 3) evanescent realization; 4) teleportational reconcealment [?]; 5) 
the three progressions; 6) 1st/ 4th of the four consolidations according to 
All-surpassing realization; 7) thogal [practice]. [IW]
1) with stages skipped / out of order [rim pa 'chol ba . Rim pa 'og ma nas gong 
du thod rgal gyis 'dzegs pa]; 2) lhun grub thod rgal; 3) [instantaneous] 
passing over, by passing [lit. to for the skull] overpass, instantaneous 
directness, crossing [over/ above/ in 1 leap/ in leaps and bounds.; 3) 
evanescent realization; 4) teleportational reconcealment [?] 5) the three 
progressions sna zin. grabbing the nose, gtan la phebs. becoming [?], [?] 
rdzog. - completion] (6) All-surpassing realisation [gd] 1st/ 4th of the four 
consolidations according to All-surpassing realisation, thogal [practice], 
bypass [gradual steps], skip the grades" [Notes: str--thod - forehead; rgal - 
transcending; so, "transcending from the level of the forehead or peak] [IW]
Sudden jump, here means to jump to a higher level while skipping the grades or 
steps in between [RY]
creative light, advanced practice for developing one's vision according to the 
upadesha series, direct approach, direct crossing, teleportational 
reconcealment, SA sgron ma bzhi, snang ba bzhi, working with light, esoteric 
practice of realization, vision of the light, "upward jump", "skull cross 
(cross the bridge which separates samsara from nirvana during the time when one 
has a skull)", direct passage, 1 of snyoms par 'jug pa dgu, Thodgal, passing 
over the summit (the development of vision practice in the Dzogchen Upadesha), 
surpassing the pinnacle, leapover, transcendence, quantum leap, method of 
contemplation of light by which rdzogs chen practitioners attain the 'ja' lus 
without leaving mortal remains at death [JV]
Direct crossing [RY]
1) not keeping to the usual order; 2) lhun grub thod rgal [instantaneous] 
passing over/ directness [by passing [lit. to for the skull] or to overpass, 
instantaneous directness, crossing [over/above/ in 1 leap/ in leaps and bounds] 
3) evanescent realization. 4) teleportational reconcealment 5) the three 
progressions sna zin. grabbing the nose, gtan la phebs. becoming, rdzog. - 
completion] 6) All-surpassing realisation [gdmk]: 1st OR 4th of the four 
consolidations according to All-surpassing realisation [gdmk] "skip the 
grades", bypass [gradual steps], thogal, "transcending from the level of the 
forehead or peak" [IW]
1) bypass, overpass, by passing, passing over, "to skip the grades", "bypass 
gradual steps", surpassing, crossing, crossing over / above. 2) crossing in one 
leap, in leaps and bounds. 2) Togal, Direct Crossing, simultaneous passing; 
Sudden jump; Passing Over; instantaneous directness, lit. "passing over the 
summit" [RY]
Togal. 'Direct crossing.' Dzogchen has two main sections: Trekcho and Togal. 
The former emphasizes primordial purity (ka dag) and the latter spontaneous 
presence (lhun grub). (RY)
surpassing ordinary experience/ the pinnacle point; (making) the final leap 
(into primordial being)* (RB)
Categories: Tibetan Dictionary | rydic2003 | tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> I made it up. It was a joke, a funny. No one has
> run down the street waving their dick at me in one
> of my real dreams in months, and the last time it
> happened it was Nabby, so the dick in question was
> like waving a pencil eraser around, and made very
> little impression. :-)
>
This is what they call in the trade, a "burn" of the highest order.

[FairfieldLife] The will of God

[shainm307]

My dad and I were talking and I told him that according to maharishi and 
another book I read: when you are elightened you always follow the will of God. 
 But he said that God is everything therefor the will of God is everything.  It 
seems like something is missing from his understanding. Does anyone have a 
comment on this?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[Sal Sunshine]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 9:16 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

> Rick,
> 
> I think with you, it's like holding out the middle three fingers and saying 
> "read between the lines".  I think it's pretty clear that you view him as a 
> fraud, a hypocrite, a liar.  I mean no big deal, but, at least for me, that 
> is what comes through.  Now maybe you don't view that as bashing, but, it 
> looks like bashing to me. But you know what,  Your Mileage May Vary!

The Ray hath spoken...repent, all ye sinners!

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[seventhray1]

Put it to music Temple Dog, and don't forget to copyright it!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> or put another way ;-) :
> 
> Turn off your mind, relax
> and float down stream
> It is not dying
> It is not dying
> 
> Lay down all thought
> Surrender to the void
> It is shining
> It is shining
> 
> That you may see
> The meaning of within
> It is being
> It is being
> 
> That love is all
> And love is everyone
> It is knowing
> It is knowing
> 
> That ignorance and hate
> May mourn the dead
> It is believing
> It is believing
> 
> But listen to the
> color of your dreams
> It is not living
> It is not living
> 
> Or play the game of 
> existence to the end
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mleroygoffiv"  wrote:
> >
> > * * * Beautiful, many thanks! 
> > 
> > I love those first few lines: "When I get to the bottom 
> > > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > > Where I stop and turn 
> > > and I go for a ride 
> > > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again" -- 
> > 
> > That really evokes our "progress" around and through the 
> > black-hole/white-hole torus of awareness :-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Rory for sharing your 'map'. That jigsaw nature of the puzzle, 
> > > also called, The Rise and Fall of the wave in the ocean', reminds me of 
> > > these poetic verses of our favorate sing-songwriter:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > When I get to the bottom 
> > > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > > Where I stop and turn 
> > > and I go for a ride 
> > > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again 
> > > Yeah, yeah, yeah 
> > > Do you don't you want me to love you 
> > > I'm coming down fast but I'm miles above you 
> > > Tell me tell me come on tell me the answer 
> > > and you may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > > 
> > > I will you won't you want me to make you 
> > > I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you 
> > > Tell me tell me tell me the answer 
> > > You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4WoTOX8Lt4 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > * * * Experientially, though, it is quite correct; that is, it 
> > > > > describes a legitimate aspect of Awakening, in which one feels 
> > > > > gut-deep as if one has lost one's old I-point; the separate wave has 
> > > > > utterly dissolved into the ocean. When one looks inside immediately 
> > > > > after Awakening, there is Nothing there. No center, no self, no 
> > > > > private I-ness. Eventually one rummages around and produces the 
> > > > > remnants of an I and puts it on, like an old wrinkled shirt, so we 
> > > > > can continue the drama, but never again "are" we that I, not in any 
> > > > > conventional sense of the word, anyhow. And that I is now or soon 
> > > > > appreciated as a charming collapse of the Whole, containing the Whole 
> > > > > together with all of its particles or "other" I's.
> > > > >
> > > > Here is how I interpret this "No-self" experience: The so-called states 
> > > > of TC, CC, GC, and UC describe an ever-closer approach between Purusha 
> > > > and Prakriti, or the Absolute and the Relative, or Father Spirit and 
> > > > Mother Matter. Kundalini, both from below and from above, acts as a 
> > > > kind of more-or-less constant conductor or tunneler to effect their 
> > > > approach and eventual marriage.
> > > > 
> > > > Using a "Cosmic Body" as a map of their progress, we can posit that 
> > > > Transcendental Consciousness (TC) activates the Crown Chakra (Shiva; 
> > > > Purusha) and the Foot Chakra (Shakti; Prakriti); Cosmic Consciousness 
> > > > (CC) moves down into the Brow (Witness) and up into the Base (Organs of 
> > > > action; Physical plane) to effect a witnessing of activity; 
> > > > God-Consciousness (GC) moves down into the Throat (Space; bliss) and up 
> > > > into the Sex (Senses; Astral-emotional) to structure blissful senses 
> > > > and subtle-body experiences; and Unity Consciousness (UC) moves down 
> > > > into the Heart (Buddhic intuition; finest feeling) and up into the 
> > > > Navel (Manas or animal mind) to move beyond the senses into an 
> > > > intuitive grasp of One-ness. 
> > > > 
> > > > What has intermediated between these poles of Absolute and Relative, 
> > > > both binding them in a relationship and yet keeping them apart, is the 
> > > > I AM, the Soul or the Mind, the separate Ego. As these poles approach 
> > > > each other, the intermediary Soul "shrinks" until it occupies only our 
> > > > Sacred Heart or Solar Plexus point. At this moment, the Soul becomes 
> > > > Self-aware; we merge with our golden Soul as our own Solar Angel, and 
> > > > find our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[whynotnow7]

Another one of my favorite artists David Bowie and his song about transcending, 
Changes:

Oh, yeah
Mmm

Still don't know what I was waitin' for
And my time was runnin' wild
A million dead end streets and
Every time I thought I'd got it made
It seemed the taste was not so sweet
So I turned myself to face me
But I've never caught a glimpse of
How the others must see the faker
I'm much too fast to take that test

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the strange
Ch-ch-changes
Don't want to be a richer man
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the strange
Ch-ch-changes
Just gonna have to be a different man
Time may change me
But I can't trace time
Mmm, yeah

I watch the ripples change their size
But never leave the stream
Of warm impermanence
So the days float through my eyes
But still the days seem the same
And these children that you spit on
As they try to change their worlds
Are immune to your consultations
They're quite aware of what they're goin' through

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the strange
Ch-ch-changes
Don't tell them to grow up and out of it
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the strange
Ch-ch-changes
Where's your shame?
You've left us up to our necks in it
Time may change me
But you can't trace time

Strange fascination, fascinatin'
Ah, changes are takin'
The pace I'm goin' through

Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the strange
Ch-ch-changes
Oh, look out you rock 'n' rollers
Ch-ch-ch-ch-changes
Turn and face the strange
Ch-ch-changes
Pretty soon now you're gonna get older
Time may change me
But I can't trace time
I said that time may change me
But I can't trace time


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Ahem. The BBC's contention just might have something to
> > do with the fact that the words to this song were lifted
> > verbatim from "The Psychedelic Experience," by Leary,
> > Metzger, and Alpert. :-)
> 
> Well, the first line is, more or less. The original reads:
> 
> "Whenever in doubt, turn off your mind, relax, float downstream."
> 
> The rest of the words are Lennon's.
> 
> http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/psychedelic_experience/psychedelic_experience.shtml
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2fapf
> 
> 
> 
> > That book was a loose reworking of the Tibetan Book of
> > the Dead, and was pretty much the User's Manual for LSD.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
> > >
> > > Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it 
> > < was even forbidden at a time and not played by the BBC out 
> > > of the accusation that it was glorifying LSD 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d4wWGK4Ig
> > > which is of course rubbish, as the Beatles explained. John 
> > > lennon wanted his voice obviously to sound like the Dalai 
> > > Lama from a hilltop.
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > or put another way ;-) :
> > > > > 
> > > > > Turn off your mind, relax
> > > > > and float down stream
> > > > > It is not dying
> > > > > It is not dying
> > > > > 
> > > > > Lay down all thought
> > > > > Surrender to the void
> > > > > It is shining
> > > > > It is shining
> > > > > 
> > > > > That you may see
> > > > > The meaning of within
> > > > > It is being
> > > > > It is being
> > > > > 
> > > > > That love is all
> > > > > And love is everyone
> > > > > It is knowing
> > > > > It is knowing
> > > > > 
> > > > > That ignorance and hate
> > > > > May mourn the dead
> > > > > It is believing
> > > > > It is believing
> > > > > 
> > > > > But listen to the
> > > > > color of your dreams
> > > > > It is not living
> > > > > It is not living
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or play the game of 
> > > > > existence to the end
> > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > Of the beginning
> > > > > Of the beginning
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[yifuxero]

Mayan bubble diagram
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OdLy3AzBB74/TDtrIcWCSFI/ADw/OiIz-DZ7az4/s1600/mayan_cosmos.jpg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > I've read most of the English-translated Aurobindo and I've never read
> anything even remotely associated with what I'd consider the spontaneous
> "vision" of todgal.
> >
> Silly Boy!  It's not from that tradition. It's a combination of the
> "naugual, and the "tonal" .
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> I've read most of the English-translated Aurobindo and I've never read
anything even remotely associated with what I'd consider the spontaneous
"vision" of todgal.
>
Silly Boy!  It's not from that tradition. It's a combination of the
"naugual, and the "tonal" .

[FairfieldLife] seeing the world in a multitude of shades

[Yifu Xero]

http://www.fantasygallery.net/demoray/art_4_dracula.html




Subject: seeing the world in a multitude of shades


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doer / Non-Doer as point of view

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" willytex@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > turquoiseb:
> > > The past couple of Fridays I've found myself having
> > > completed all my work for the week early, and thus
> > > being able to take a hike...
> > >
> > So, you took a walk and now it's done - you did it.
> > Well done! So, who took the walk?
> >
> I think the legs do it fairly automatic. It's the miracle of gravity
dude. Also thoughts arise automatic.  Gravity in the reverse direction
dude.  Remember your bubble d.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[Joe]

He mentioned neither. Instead he kept laughing hysterically to himself while 
muttering something about Gabby.or maybe it was Haddy...or maybe

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I had a real champ for a surgeon, and this time the out of control 
> > flutter was completely taken care of. Another long ass procedure (5 hours 
> > including an ETT study) but, aside from feeling a bit sore, I have a new 
> > appreciation for western medicine and the value of a properly functioning 
> > heart.
> > 
> > While I was out though, I did come across a gentleman named Maitreya. He 
> > passes along this message...it was all a joke, just a small part in the 
> > film Dogma.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Joe
> > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:51 PM
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that is anything less
> > > than worshipful "bashing".
> > > 
> > > So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a multitude
> > > of shades (as I know you do.)
> > > 
> > > Joe! You're alive! Surgery over? Apparently successful, unless they have
> > > email in heaven.
> > >
> 
> I second this - glad you are alive and well. Also, when you saw him,  did 
> Maitreya have powerful Darshan?  Did he mention B Creme?  Raj Patel?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[seventhray1]

Vaj, what was your flys name?  You know, the one that was always on the
wall.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> Mahesh had many gurus after SBS, and one of them was Swami Lakshman
Joo. He begged and begged L-J for initiation into the Vijnana-bhairava
tantra. Eventually L-J relented.
>
> Many of his ideas are taken directly from that tradition.
>
> The Mother was of course famous for descending into the
muladhara-chakra for her realization.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:


> So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a
multitude of shades (as I know you do.)

Joey, I think you may suffer from this affliction a bit.


>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nabby,
> >
> >
> >
> > I was thinking about your reference to me as a "Maharishi Basher". I
> > challenge you to find a single post in the FFL archives in which I
have
> > "bashed" Maharishi. If you find one in which you think I'm doing so,
we'll
> > see if anyone else agrees.
> >
> >
> >
> > Go at it dude.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[seventhray1]

Joe,  "The Chimer"  This dude's got to chime in on any negative comment
about the Rish.

(Gotta check my posts.  I think I got banned for using fewer words in 55
posts, than some people use in one)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that is anything
less than worshipful "bashing".
>
> So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a
multitude of shades (as I know you do.)
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" rick@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nabby,
> >
> >
> >
> > I was thinking about your reference to me as a "Maharishi Basher". I
> > challenge you to find a single post in the FFL archives in which I
have
> > "bashed" Maharishi. If you find one in which you think I'm doing so,
we'll
> > see if anyone else agrees.
> >
> >
> >
> > Go at it dude.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] featuring Inger Edelfeldt

[Yifu Xero]

-
Subject: featuring Inger Edelfeldt


http://fan.theonering.net/middleearthtours/edelfeldt.html


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[seventhray1]

Rick,

I think with you, it's like holding out the middle three fingers and
saying "read between the lines".  I think it's pretty clear that you
view him as a fraud, a hypocrite, a liar.  I mean no big deal, but, at
least for me, that is what comes through.  Now maybe you don't view that
as bashing, but, it looks like bashing to me. But you know what,  Your
Mileage May Vary!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Hi Nabby,
>
>
>
> I was thinking about your reference to me as a "Maharishi Basher". I
> challenge you to find a single post in the FFL archives in which I
have
> "bashed" Maharishi. If you find one in which you think I'm doing so,
we'll
> see if anyone else agrees.
>
>
>
> Go at it dude.
>
>
>
> Rick
>

[FairfieldLife] Artists of Middle Earth

[Yifu Xero]

 



 



Subject: The artists of Middle Earth


http://fan.theonering.net/middleearthtours/lee4.html


http://fan.theonering.net/middleearthtours/nasmith4.html

http://fan.theonering.net/middleearthtours/nasmith4.html


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you for not breeding

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:


> Meow, no one is crying for lack of faith in this discussion. We are
talking about world problems that have to addressed by humans who are
supposedly endowed with intelligence and reason by Nature.

Tell it like it is John.  We've been needing someone with the courage to
finally come out and lay it on the line.  These are insights that have
been sorely lacking in our society, and isn't it appropiate that here in
this little corner of the internet, Fairfield Life,  the voice of reason
is starting to be heard.  A fuck'n Men.




>
>
> > There are plants that are 'superplants', whole foods in and of
themselves that are growing in salt water- and one in sand and no very
little water- recent discoveries- you can call it evolution; or you can
call it Divine Beauty of Love Intent- Whatever happens there is always a
way of sustaining.
>
> No doubt, these plants can be used for food by humans. But the problem
of overpopulation includes the continuation of the economy, education,
adequate living standards, culture and religion.
>
>
> > If the population grows, new palnts that take less land mass will
be- and are now, being discovered. It will be a change, a different way
of energy (food) consumption. And there's always other things like
sungazing and pulling from stars for energy, and a plethera of other
means of sustaining life.
>
> At the present time, some scientists consider the civilizations on
Earth to be Type Zero. IOW, we are still dependent on fossil fuels for
power and energy. The use of the sun and stars is considered to be the
sources of Type 2 and Type 3 civilizations. Unfortunately, the humans on
Earth have not reached these higher levels at the present or any time
soon.
>
>
> ...ANNND what if we just changed (end of the world as we know it- and
I m feelin fine)...our life form into a different structure, one that is
not dependent on ingesting dying cell structures, be it carrot or
animal-
>
> Humans are still carbon based organisms. I don't believe humans will
dramatically evolve into devas or angels any time soon either.
>
>
> what if ? What if that is what the Mayans meant?
>
> The Mayans had a unique culture and civilization at its height. But it
also a dark side to it, which many people tend to forget. The Mayans
believed in human sacrifices to sustain their world and style of living.
Its civilization eventually collapsed due to drought, according to
recent studies by archeologists.
>
>
> We are all only drawing on energy sources and there is an intelligent
plan. Do not doubt. Go and fill the earth and know things will not stay
the same, yet this stays the same- God , in His Love, has made ways, and
there will always be a way. It will be beautiful. Believe.
>
> A Christian tele-evangelist said recently that the command to "bear
fruit and multiply" only applied to the time of Noah since at that time
almost all of the humans were wiped out by the Deluge. The evangelist
said that that the original command is no applicable in this day and
age. This could be another point of discussion if anyone is interested
in pursuing this.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The ideal is to have a sustainable population growth. China has
drastically cut its population growth which may be a detriment in the
future. Due to the population decrease, they may not have enough young
people to take over their booming economy and to care for their aging
population.
> > >
> > > This same scenario can be said for Japan, and European countries
like Sweden and France.
> > >
> > > Nonetheless, it is true that many poor countries are increasing
more rapidly in population than the more affluent countries. In these
countries, it would be appropriate to curb the growth to sustain its
economy, population and style of living.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap" 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Gro Harlem Brundtland, the UN Chair for the World
> > > > Commission on Environment and Development, worries
> > > > that population growth is a "ticking time bomb" and
> > > > that "we may soon be facing a new famine on a scale
> > > > dwarfing even Malthus's most pessimistic predictions".
> > > >
> > > > Gro Harlem Brundtland has FOUR children.
> > > >
> > > > Brundtland's views were heavily influenced by her
> > > > father who went to America on a Rockefeller
> > > > scholarship, according to the UN. At the age of seven
> > > > she was enrolled in the Children's section of the
> > > > Norwegian Labour Movement.
> > > >
> > > > Al Gore says that Third World nations are producing
> > > > too many children too fast and that it's time to cut
> > > > out-of-control population growth, which is driving
> > > > global warming.
> > > >
> > > > Al Gore has FOUR children.
> > > >
> > > > James Lovelock believes that we are headed for global
> > > > catastrophe because of overpopulation and that 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> > 
> > On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
> > 
> > > * * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have been 
> > > shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; dhyana 
> > > is in the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in the 
> > > "avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow.

Here's what MMY has said about the Chakras Rory, FYI (if you haven't already 
hear it).  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HHkXoH97r0

[FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic Science

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> The Iraq war was Bush's blunder.

John, are you sure?  You're going out on a limb here, and your
reputation is at stake.  Think about this.  I don't want you to come to
any hasty conclusions.



He now admits that the invasion was perpetuated by a failure in American
spy intelligence. But at the height of the war, he gave the chief of CIA
a medal of honor for his role in the American invasion.
>
> In my estimation, that meant that Tennet, the CIA chief, had warned
Bush of the unreliable intelligence in Iraq. However, due to his
commitment to an aggressive military doctrine, Bush ordered the attack
anyway on false data and assumptions.
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > During the Dark Ages, the Islamic countries were ahead of Europe
> > > in learning and technology.
> >
> > Not just in the "Dark Ages." Before the first Iraq War,
> > literacy rates in Iraq were among the highest in the
> > world. In 1989, school enrollment in Iraq was higher
> > than the average rate for all developing countries, but
> > over the last decade (since the US "liberated" it), the
> > number of elementary school dropouts has increased by
> > more than 30 percent.
> >
> > According to a 2005 study issued by the United Nations
> > Development Programme (UNDP), the US war against Iraq
> > has resulted in a "social tragedy." Among the indices
> > of social misery contained in the report are the following:
> >
> > * Nearly a quarter of Iraq's children suffer from chronic
> > malnutrition.
> >
> > * The probability of dying before 40 for Iraqi children
> > born between 2000 and 2004 is approximately three times
> > the level in neighboring countries.
> >
> > * Three out of four Iraqi families report an unstable
> > supply of electricity.
> >
> > * 40 percent of families in urban areas live in neighbor-
> > hoods where sewage can be seen in the streets.
> >
> > * More than 722,000 Iraqi families have no access to
> > either safe or stable drinking water.
> >
> > * The jobless rate for young men with secondary or higher
> > education stands at 37 percent.
> >
> > * The literacy rate for women has stagnated, and, in
> > certain regions, the level of female illiteracy is very
> > high. Some 65 percent of the adult population in Iraq is
> > literate, compared with 86 percent in Jordan and 75
> > percent in Syria.
> >
> > [http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/1030-02.jpg]
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[seventhray1]

Leroy Goff.  I like that.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mleroygoffiv" 
wrote:
>
>
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex" 
wrote:
> > > > In that state, what exactly do you anticipate remains of any
individuality after the physical body dies?
>
> "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > * * * I don't really anticipate. In what state is that? I don't
identify with any of these states of consciousness; they are "jigsaw
pieces" inside Us, different ways to slice up our simple consciousness:
like conic sections. We are not any particular conic section -- not the
point (sleep), or the line (dream), or the X (waking), or the circle
(TC), or the ellipse (CC), or the parabola (GC), or the hyperbola (UC);
we are the cone itself, containing all of them, yet "beyond" any of
them, as they are all one dimension smaller than we are; as slices of Us
they are dualistic descriptors of a nondual Presence.
> > >
> * * * Just to continue this analogy to the uttermost, BC or the
disappearance of the separate self would involve "backing up" our
attention from the double-cone enough to realize it is actually the
central spindle of a torus; then we would see that the various conic
sections are actually all surrounded by (in the case of the Sleeping
point, the TC circle, and the CC ellipse) the same circle, or actually
flow into (in the case of the Dreaming line, the Waking X, the GC
parabola, and the UC hyperbola) that same surrounding curvature. In
other words, the container of Awareness now knows itself or remembers
itself to be always the same, regardless of any spacetime state of
consciousness it contains. So now we could go back into and investigate
those "same" states of consciousness from the context of Wholeness and
discover entirely new properties in them.
>
> > > From one point of view, the physical body dies and we find
ourselves inhabiting a subtle or astral body; that too dies and we find
ourselves in a mental vehicle or dense soul; this too dies and we find
ourselves in a causal vehicle, and so on, stripping away vehicle after
vehicle: buddhic, atmic/andanda, avyakta, Purusha... and yet we may
experience all of these deaths while still in this body! Death is not
what it may seem, nor is life; these are another "artificial" duality,
making sense only as a paired concept in the context of spacetime.
> > >
> > > Our most cherished individuality is universal, is eternal and
outside of spacetime and beyond any container, gross or subtle. Any of
our countless gross or subtle vehicles may come and go as they have
always done; in that sense they too are eternal, as they are *always*
changing -- but the only "thing" which is unchanging and eternal is the
only "thing" which we already are, and have always been.
> > >
> "do.rflex" do.rflex@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> * * * My pleasure; thank you for asking. The key here is our solving
the apparent opposition in the ideas of individual *vs.* universal, or
Self *vs.* not-Self. These are actually a "false" dichotomy, true in
spacetime only, but from our point of view actually two sides of the
same non-dual coin.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditional Existence, essay by Greg Goode

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:


> Why bother posting something so nonsensical … except to confuse? 
Billy, if this is your idea of a "readable" post, well, God Save the
Queen"  And FWIW, I thought it was a pretty boring ass movie.  "The
Kings Speech" that is.






>
>
> *
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu Xero yifuxero@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Conditional Existence, essay by Greg Goode
> >
> >
> > from the Greg Goode website:
> >
> > "
> > Conventional Existence
> > So how do things exist if they don’t exist inherently?
> According to the Buddhist
> > teachings, things exist in an everyday, non-inherent, dependent way.
> Our mode of
> > existence is dependent on many things, such as the causes and
> conditions that
> > give rise to us, the components that make us up, and the ways we are
> cognized
> > and categorized. According to the teachings, we are not separate and
> independent
> > entities, but rather we exist in dependence on webworks of relations
> and
> > transactions.
> > For example, we can say that a bottle of milk exists in a dependent,
> > conventional way because you can go to the store, lift the bottle of
> milk off
> > the shelf, pay for it, and bring it home. It exists in dependence on
> its
> > surroundings, its having been manufactured, and in relation to the
> actions of
> > the store employees and yourself. The bottle of milk is not found to
> exist
> > independently of these things.
> > It is taught that all things are empty and dependent like this. That
> includes
> > people and all other living beings, as well as consciousness and
> > unconsciousness; pleasure and pain; time and space; cause and
effect;
> good and
> > bad; logic and math; language, meaning and reference; art, commerce
> and science;
> > planets, boulders and bridges; unicorns and Sherlock Holmes; energy,
> thoughts,
> > feelings, and bodily sensations. Whatever exists is said to exist
> > conventionally, but not inherently."
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Spontaneous vision of Todgal

[Yifu Xero]

Subject: Spontaneous vision of Todgal


Todgal, or Toadgal, maybe Froggal:


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
>
> Like a man dying of thirst in the desert, is given a canteen of water,
slakes his thirst and then complains about the color of the canteen!
>
> Or, like a man who gives you a boat with one oar. Or, how about a man
who gives you a three legged dog? :-) At any rate, you get my point, uh,
no.  I get Peter's point, (well, you know what I mean), and I think it
is a damn fine point  give credit where credit is due, but see it for
what it is. :-)
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[seventhray1]

But can we trust this video?  Everyone knows there is little wind in
Cairo, and yet there is a flag in the upper corner blowing strongly. 
Also, did you notice the shadows?  If this were shot near midday, those
shadows should have been a little longer.  I think I need to see a
little stonger evidence.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Live and direct from Cairo courtesy of Al-Jazeera:
> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/al-jazeera/
>
> This summer is going to be a riot!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wgm4u"  wrote:
> I don't think Barry would qualify for an interview on Batgap, Buddha
at the Gas pump! But then..maybe a new angle Rick?
>
I, for one, think we're due for a follow up to "Road Trip".  How bout
"The Barry Chronicles.  Road Tripping in Western Europe".  It could be
part two of a trilogy.  Part three can take Barry to Japan and Thailand,
and finally to India.  Full Circle!  Maybe, "Cow Dung to Egg Fu Yung,
and Everything in Between" (-:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 8:12 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

> Ahem. The BBC's contention just might have something to
> do with the fact that the words to this song were lifted
> verbatim from "The Psychedelic Experience," by Leary,
> Metzger, and Alpert. :-)
> 
> That book was a loose reworking of the Tibetan Book of
> the Dead, and was pretty much the User's Manual for LSD.


OMG. I thought that was a given.

The book I read first. Thanks Tim! The acid-droppers guide - you still da man!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

[seventhray1]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:

> Did you really, or are you making that up? If you really did, that's
pretty
> strange.

Strange.  Just a little strange that is was not immediately apparant
that it was a joke.I mean, my problem is that I usually take too
many things for a joke, that aren't necessarily a joke.  But Lord, I
think I'd rather be in that camp.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Ahem. The BBC's contention just might have something to
> do with the fact that the words to this song were lifted
> verbatim from "The Psychedelic Experience," by Leary,
> Metzger, and Alpert. :-)

Well, the first line is, more or less. The original reads:

"Whenever in doubt, turn off your mind, relax, float downstream."

The rest of the words are Lennon's.

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/psychedelic_experience/psychedelic_experience.shtml

http://tinyurl.com/2fapf



> That book was a loose reworking of the Tibetan Book of
> the Dead, and was pretty much the User's Manual for LSD.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
> >
> > Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it 
> < was even forbidden at a time and not played by the BBC out 
> > of the accusation that it was glorifying LSD 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d4wWGK4Ig
> > which is of course rubbish, as the Beatles explained. John 
> > lennon wanted his voice obviously to sound like the Dalai 
> > Lama from a hilltop.
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > or put another way ;-) :
> > > > 
> > > > Turn off your mind, relax
> > > > and float down stream
> > > > It is not dying
> > > > It is not dying
> > > > 
> > > > Lay down all thought
> > > > Surrender to the void
> > > > It is shining
> > > > It is shining
> > > > 
> > > > That you may see
> > > > The meaning of within
> > > > It is being
> > > > It is being
> > > > 
> > > > That love is all
> > > > And love is everyone
> > > > It is knowing
> > > > It is knowing
> > > > 
> > > > That ignorance and hate
> > > > May mourn the dead
> > > > It is believing
> > > > It is believing
> > > > 
> > > > But listen to the
> > > > color of your dreams
> > > > It is not living
> > > > It is not living
> > > > 
> > > > Or play the game of 
> > > > existence to the end
> > > > Of the beginning
> > > > Of the beginning
> > > > Of the beginning
> > > > Of the beginning
> > > > Of the beginning
> > > > Of the beginning
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 9:10 PM, emptybill wrote:

> Mira was always ready to claim hidden awakenings in the Inconscient due to 
> her yogic powers.  In reality she seems to have been a ex-theosophist, turned 
> shakti servant of Aurobindo, who was the real Yogin. Although she seemed to 
> have some actual psychic powers, that seems to be the core of her power.
> 
> It was Aurobindo who identified her as an amsha of Shakti so that his 
> disciples would have another doorway. However I believe that he was the real 
> doorway to Maha-Shakti, since Mira only came later.
> 
I was never overwhelmed with Aurobindo. He was one of the first western and 
Protestant-inspired vaishanavites IMO. They love their institutions, don't 
they? It was appealing to a certain cross-segment of society. Brahmins and 
their underlings.
> Please note that neither were successful in the TÖgal sense of transformation 
> of the physical body.
> 
Since even in Sri Vidya and other Hindu anuttara-tantra level sadhanas we 
result in a tantric-level ceasing of the mayaic form-body, you could easily say 
they not only failed to realize maha-sandhi levels of realization, they also 
missed the annutara Hindu level (such adepts are often described as simply 
"disappearing").

If you can't go "offline" as a mere form-body, I wouldn't expect you to even 
come close to body of light realizations - and I don't mean that just 
intellectually.

I've read most of the English-translated Aurobindo and I've never read anything 
even remotely associated with what I'd consider the spontaneous "vision" of 
todgal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[emptybill]

Mira was always ready to claim hidden awakenings in the Inconscient due
to her yogic powers.  In reality she seems to have been a
ex-theosophist, turned shakti servant of Aurobindo, who was the real
Yogin. Although she seemed to have some actual psychic powers, that
seems to be the core of her power.

It was Aurobindo who identified her as an amsha of Shakti so that his
disciples would have another doorway. However I believe that he was the
real doorway to Maha-Shakti, since Mira only came later.

Please note that neither were successful in the TÖgal sense of
transformation of the physical body.


***


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
>
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:15 PM, blusc0ut wrote:
>
> >> Many of his ideas are taken directly from that tradition.
> >>
> >> The Mother was of course famous for descending into the
muladhara-chakra for her realization.
> >
> > Interesting take on her transformational work. Wonder what she would
have said to that.
>
> It was her, I believe, in one of her journals, her or Sat Prem, that
commented that Aurobindo had this expansion into the cosmos beyond the
upper chakras where he was realized. She choose the direction beyond the
cellular, deep into the material, into the reverse "direction". Prakriti
and Purusha, the two.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[wayback71]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> Yes, I had a real champ for a surgeon, and this time the out of control 
> flutter was completely taken care of. Another long ass procedure (5 hours 
> including an ETT study) but, aside from feeling a bit sore, I have a new 
> appreciation for western medicine and the value of a properly functioning 
> heart.
> 
> While I was out though, I did come across a gentleman named Maitreya. He 
> passes along this message...it was all a joke, just a small part in the film 
> Dogma.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Joe
> > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:51 PM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that is anything less
> > than worshipful "bashing".
> > 
> > So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a multitude
> > of shades (as I know you do.)
> > 
> > Joe! You're alive! Surgery over? Apparently successful, unless they have
> > email in heaven.
> >

I second this - glad you are alive and well. Also, when you saw him,  did 
Maitreya have powerful Darshan?  Did he mention B Creme?  Raj Patel?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[turquoiseb]

Ahem. The BBC's contention just might have something to
do with the fact that the words to this song were lifted
verbatim from "The Psychedelic Experience," by Leary,
Metzger, and Alpert. :-)

That book was a loose reworking of the Tibetan Book of
the Dead, and was pretty much the User's Manual for LSD.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
>
> Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it 
< was even forbidden at a time and not played by the BBC out 
> of the accusation that it was glorifying LSD 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d4wWGK4Ig
> which is of course rubbish, as the Beatles explained. John 
> lennon wanted his voice obviously to sound like the Dalai 
> Lama from a hilltop.
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> > >
> > > or put another way ;-) :
> > > 
> > > Turn off your mind, relax
> > > and float down stream
> > > It is not dying
> > > It is not dying
> > > 
> > > Lay down all thought
> > > Surrender to the void
> > > It is shining
> > > It is shining
> > > 
> > > That you may see
> > > The meaning of within
> > > It is being
> > > It is being
> > > 
> > > That love is all
> > > And love is everyone
> > > It is knowing
> > > It is knowing
> > > 
> > > That ignorance and hate
> > > May mourn the dead
> > > It is believing
> > > It is believing
> > > 
> > > But listen to the
> > > color of your dreams
> > > It is not living
> > > It is not living
> > > 
> > > Or play the game of 
> > > existence to the end
> > > Of the beginning
> > > Of the beginning
> > > Of the beginning
> > > Of the beginning
> > > Of the beginning
> > > Of the beginning 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, blusc0ut  wrote:

> >
> Demonstrators action plan:
>
> http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/
>
>
> Most Austinites and few visitors know that the South Congress Bridge was
renamed to the Governor Ann Richards Bridge after former Governor Richards
died.  That's right, the bat shit bridge.  It was named after Governor
Richards because she used to say in her campaign speeches that come January,
she and the people of Texas were going to march across that bridge to the
Capital and take back the government of Texas for the people.   So these are
instructions for the people of FF walking up Rt 1 and taking back the domes
for the meditators of FF?   Why no Marshy sezzz shields?

[FairfieldLife] Destruction of a City

[yifuxero]

http://www.fantasygallery.net/morill/art_7_destruction-of-a-city.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[Joe]

Yes, I had a real champ for a surgeon, and this time the out of control flutter 
was completely taken care of. Another long ass procedure (5 hours including an 
ETT study) but, aside from feeling a bit sore, I have a new appreciation for 
western medicine and the value of a properly functioning heart.

While I was out though, I did come across a gentleman named Maitreya. He passes 
along this message...it was all a joke, just a small part in the film Dogma.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:51 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that is anything less
> than worshipful "bashing".
> 
> So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a multitude
> of shades (as I know you do.)
> 
> Joe! You're alive! Surgery over? Apparently successful, unless they have
> email in heaven.
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:15 PM, blusc0ut wrote:

>> Many of his ideas are taken directly from that tradition.
>> 
>> The Mother was of course famous for descending into the muladhara-chakra for 
>> her realization.
> 
> Interesting take on her transformational work. Wonder what she would have 
> said to that.

It was her, I believe, in one of her journals, her or Sat Prem, that commented 
that Aurobindo had this expansion into the cosmos beyond the upper chakras 
where he was realized. She choose the direction beyond the cellular, deep into 
the material, into the reverse "direction". Prakriti and Purusha, the two.

[FairfieldLife] Free Marriage Advice

[John]

Take it from these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWknx3jVnpo&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[blusc0ut]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
> > On 01/28/2011 10:01 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bhairitu
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Live and direct from Cairo courtesy of Al-Jazeera:
> > >> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/al-jazeera/
> > >>
> > >> This summer is going to be a riot!
> >
> 
> Well, finally we once again have peace in the Middle East.  Mubarak, the 30
> year tyrant, has asked for the resignation of his government.  Yeah.  It's
> not a principle of respondeat superior.  All along I thought torture of
> arrestees was was the president's doing.  Now of course I see that it was
> his government's doing.   Notice how the press conference at the White House
> kept saying that Obama had not spoken to Mubarac?   They are not a US puppet
> after all, except that the 2nd largest source of income for Egypt IRRC is US
> foreign aid, the first being money Egyptian expats make abroad and sent
> home.
> 
> 
> In other news, Israel is banking on the status and expecting the quo in the
> Middle East.
> 
> 
> This thing about the US being in the same state as Portugal and the WB's
> going to dis the US?  Come on, now.  The WB's not a puppet of the US?
>
Demonstrators action plan:
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/01/egyptian-activists-action-plan-translated/70388/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[whynotnow7]

I personally have never experienced you as that, Rick. I suppose if you keep 
trying though -lol...seriously though, I don't know where Nabs gets that 
notion. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe"  wrote:
>
> I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that is anything less 
> than worshipful "bashing".
> 
> So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a multitude of 
> shades (as I know you do.)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nabby,
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I was thinking about your reference to me as a "Maharishi Basher". I
> > challenge you to find a single post in the FFL archives in which I have
> > "bashed" Maharishi. If you find one in which you think I'm doing so, we'll
> > see if anyone else agrees. 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Go at it dude.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Rick
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> On 01/28/2011 10:01 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bhairitu
>  wrote:
> >
> >> Live and direct from Cairo courtesy of Al-Jazeera:
> >> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/al-jazeera/
> >>
> >> This summer is going to be a riot!
>

Well, finally we once again have peace in the Middle East.  Mubarak, the 30
year tyrant, has asked for the resignation of his government.  Yeah.  It's
not a principle of respondeat superior.  All along I thought torture of
arrestees was was the president's doing.  Now of course I see that it was
his government's doing.   Notice how the press conference at the White House
kept saying that Obama had not spoken to Mubarac?   They are not a US puppet
after all, except that the 2nd largest source of income for Egypt IRRC is US
foreign aid, the first being money Egyptian expats make abroad and sent
home.


In other news, Israel is banking on the status and expecting the quo in the
Middle East.


This thing about the US being in the same state as Portugal and the WB's
going to dis the US?  Come on, now.  The WB's not a puppet of the US?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[blusc0ut]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:25 PM, blusc0ut wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
> >> 
> >>> * * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have been 
> >>> shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; dhyana 
> >>> is in the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in the 
> >>> "avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow.
> >> 
> >> That sounds to me more like a Theosophical POV and definitely differs from 
> >> my understanding from Hindu and Buddhist lines of realization.
> >> 
> >>> However, the movement through these areas would not always or necessarily 
> >>> be "upward". Also, in our model, these chakra-stages could be likened to 
> >>> the numbers on a clock, and we could then complete their cycle many 
> >>> times, like the minute hand on a clock moving around, with each 
> >>> completion moving the base-line identification one stage further, like 
> >>> the clock's hour-hand. In this respect, subtle prana could be transcended 
> >>> by moving through the crown chakra as a minute-hand cycle to complete the 
> >>> larger hour-hand cycle of the sex, astral, sensory, or prana realm...
> >> 
> >> In the Hindu and Buddhist tantric lines of practice, the karmic prana can 
> >> be transcended at ANY chakra (or channel-wheel) and become a unified-pair 
> >> of enlightened mind. The chakras simply represent doors karmic prana can 
> >> enter the central channel through. And realization can occur at any 
> >> channel-wheel. There are rishis whose realization occurred at the root 
> >> chakra, there are those whose realization occurred at other channel-wheels.
> > 
> > That's basically what Mira Alfassa, companion of Sri Aurobindo said as 
> > well: You can experience Nirvana at many levels, at each chakra. This is 
> > possibly also described in the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra, which Maharishi 
> > alludes to in one of the SCI lessons, as the 108/112 ways of 
> > transcending.(Maharishi though didn't call it by it's correct name, but 
> > mentioned the Shiva Sutra or Samhita.)
> > 
> > Thinking of this, I think Maharishi always left a little door open, away 
> > from the main-stream line of thought, a programmer would say a back-door. I 
> > swear I heard him talk in the middle of the night about kechari mudra, as a 
> > state or/way to enlightenment, and nobody else whom I asked later was 
> > hearing it. I don't remember any more the exact context, and it was a very 
> > mysterious remark. As they say, the veda is for him who is awake.
> 
> 
> Mahesh had many gurus after SBS, and one of them was Swami Lakshman Joo. He 
> begged and begged L-J for initiation into the Vijnana-bhairava tantra. 
> Eventually L-J relented. 

There's nothing wrong in having different gurus. I'm sure SBS had several gurus 
as well.

 
> Many of his ideas are taken directly from that tradition.
> 
> The Mother was of course famous for descending into the muladhara-chakra for 
> her realization.

Interesting take on her transformational work. Wonder what she would have said 
to that.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doer / Non-Doer as point of view

[blusc0ut]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> turquoiseb:
> > The past couple of Fridays I've found myself having
> > completed all my work for the week early, and thus
> > being able to take a hike... 
> >
> So, you took a walk and now it's done - you did it.
> Well done! So, who took the walk?
>
I think the legs do it fairly automatic. Also thoughts arise automatic.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 5:25 PM, blusc0ut wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
>> 
>>> * * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have been 
>>> shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; dhyana is 
>>> in the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in the 
>>> "avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow.
>> 
>> That sounds to me more like a Theosophical POV and definitely differs from 
>> my understanding from Hindu and Buddhist lines of realization.
>> 
>>> However, the movement through these areas would not always or necessarily 
>>> be "upward". Also, in our model, these chakra-stages could be likened to 
>>> the numbers on a clock, and we could then complete their cycle many times, 
>>> like the minute hand on a clock moving around, with each completion moving 
>>> the base-line identification one stage further, like the clock's hour-hand. 
>>> In this respect, subtle prana could be transcended by moving through the 
>>> crown chakra as a minute-hand cycle to complete the larger hour-hand cycle 
>>> of the sex, astral, sensory, or prana realm...
>> 
>> In the Hindu and Buddhist tantric lines of practice, the karmic prana can be 
>> transcended at ANY chakra (or channel-wheel) and become a unified-pair of 
>> enlightened mind. The chakras simply represent doors karmic prana can enter 
>> the central channel through. And realization can occur at any channel-wheel. 
>> There are rishis whose realization occurred at the root chakra, there are 
>> those whose realization occurred at other channel-wheels.
> 
> That's basically what Mira Alfassa, companion of Sri Aurobindo said as well: 
> You can experience Nirvana at many levels, at each chakra. This is possibly 
> also described in the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra, which Maharishi alludes to in 
> one of the SCI lessons, as the 108/112 ways of transcending.(Maharishi though 
> didn't call it by it's correct name, but mentioned the Shiva Sutra or 
> Samhita.)
> 
> Thinking of this, I think Maharishi always left a little door open, away from 
> the main-stream line of thought, a programmer would say a back-door. I swear 
> I heard him talk in the middle of the night about kechari mudra, as a state 
> or/way to enlightenment, and nobody else whom I asked later was hearing it. I 
> don't remember any more the exact context, and it was a very mysterious 
> remark. As they say, the veda is for him who is awake.


Mahesh had many gurus after SBS, and one of them was Swami Lakshman Joo. He 
begged and begged L-J for initiation into the Vijnana-bhairava tantra. 
Eventually L-J relented. 

Many of his ideas are taken directly from that tradition.

The Mother was of course famous for descending into the muladhara-chakra for 
her realization.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Doer / Non-Doer as point of view

[WillyTex]

turquoiseb:
> The past couple of Fridays I've found myself having
> completed all my work for the week early, and thus
> being able to take a hike... 
>
So, you took a walk and now it's done - you did it.
Well done! So, who took the walk?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[blusc0ut]

Beautiful! This is also one of my favorate songs. I think it was even forbidden 
at a time and not played by the BBC out of the accusation that it was 
glorifying LSD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5d4wWGK4Ig
which is of course rubbish, as the Beatles explained. John lennon wanted his 
voice obviously to sound like the Dalai Lama from a hilltop.

"(5) the end of one cycle is always the beginning of another"

I wonder, just watching the Aljazeera egypt broadcast, how that would apply to 
the present situation in the TM movement, which looks like it is in a state of 
induced coma. Hasn't Maharishi said, the movement belongs to those who move? 
Hasn't he said in an interview before his death, that all the initiators are 
his successors.

As Judy pointed out recently, nature may 'want' something else despite of our 
choices. And that may apply to the movement itself. (See, I don't think the 
Maharishi Effect, if it exists, necessarily always works the way we--including 
Maharishi--expect or intend it to.) What I am trying to aim at is, that all the 
crazyness of the movement recently, Rajaism etc. could be just a means to wake 
the people in the movement up. Obviously nobody in the upper movement has the 
balls to do something essential to save it. All look paralyzed at each other it 
seems. Just a thought.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
>
> Yes; many thanks! This evokes several other good points for me -- (1) "dying" 
> is indeed simply transcendence, as we lift the finger of our awareness out of 
> one density of Us to surrender into and remember another simpler, 
> pre-existent one, 
> (2) The "void" is not empty but emptiful; it is shining with the infinite 
> light of self-awareness;
> (3) The meaning of everything is in our own simple Being;
> (4) That Love is the binding force of our Self-knowledge;
> (5) the end of one cycle is always the beginning of another :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > or put another way ;-) :
> > 
> > Turn off your mind, relax
> > and float down stream
> > It is not dying
> > It is not dying
> > 
> > Lay down all thought
> > Surrender to the void
> > It is shining
> > It is shining
> > 
> > That you may see
> > The meaning of within
> > It is being
> > It is being
> > 
> > That love is all
> > And love is everyone
> > It is knowing
> > It is knowing
> > 
> > That ignorance and hate
> > May mourn the dead
> > It is believing
> > It is believing
> > 
> > But listen to the
> > color of your dreams
> > It is not living
> > It is not living
> > 
> > Or play the game of 
> > existence to the end
> > Of the beginning
> > Of the beginning
> > Of the beginning
> > Of the beginning
> > Of the beginning
> > Of the beginning 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mleroygoffiv"  wrote:
> > >
> > > * * * Beautiful, many thanks! 
> > > 
> > > I love those first few lines: "When I get to the bottom 
> > > > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > > > Where I stop and turn 
> > > > and I go for a ride 
> > > > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again" -- 
> > > 
> > > That really evokes our "progress" around and through the 
> > > black-hole/white-hole torus of awareness :-)
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks Rory for sharing your 'map'. That jigsaw nature of the puzzle, 
> > > > also called, The Rise and Fall of the wave in the ocean', reminds me of 
> > > > these poetic verses of our favorate sing-songwriter:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > When I get to the bottom 
> > > > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > > > Where I stop and turn 
> > > > and I go for a ride 
> > > > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again 
> > > > Yeah, yeah, yeah 
> > > > Do you don't you want me to love you 
> > > > I'm coming down fast but I'm miles above you 
> > > > Tell me tell me come on tell me the answer 
> > > > and you may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > > > 
> > > > I will you won't you want me to make you 
> > > > I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you 
> > > > Tell me tell me tell me the answer 
> > > > You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4WoTOX8Lt4 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > * * * Experientially, though, it is quite correct; that is, it 
> > > > > > describes a legitimate aspect of Awakening, in which one feels 
> > > > > > gut-deep as if one has lost one's old I-point; the separate wave 
> > > > > > has utterly dissolved into the ocean. When one looks inside 
> > > > > > immediately after Awakening, there is Nothing there. No center, no 
> > > > > > self, no private I-ness. Eventually one rummages around and 
> > > > > > produces the remnants of an I and puts it on, like an old wrinkled 
> > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[blusc0ut]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
> 
> > * * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have been 
> > shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; dhyana is 
> > in the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in the 
> > "avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow.
> 
> That sounds to me more like a Theosophical POV and definitely differs from my 
> understanding from Hindu and Buddhist lines of realization.
> 
> > However, the movement through these areas would not always or necessarily 
> > be "upward". Also, in our model, these chakra-stages could be likened to 
> > the numbers on a clock, and we could then complete their cycle many times, 
> > like the minute hand on a clock moving around, with each completion moving 
> > the base-line identification one stage further, like the clock's hour-hand. 
> > In this respect, subtle prana could be transcended by moving through the 
> > crown chakra as a minute-hand cycle to complete the larger hour-hand cycle 
> > of the sex, astral, sensory, or prana realm...
> 
> In the Hindu and Buddhist tantric lines of practice, the karmic prana can be 
> transcended at ANY chakra (or channel-wheel) and become a unified-pair of 
> enlightened mind. The chakras simply represent doors karmic prana can enter 
> the central channel through. And realization can occur at any channel-wheel. 
> There are rishis whose realization occurred at the root chakra, there are 
> those whose realization occurred at other channel-wheels.

That's basically what Mira Alfassa, companion of Sri Aurobindo said as well: 
You can experience Nirvana at many levels, at each chakra. This is possibly 
also described in the Vijnana Bhairava Tantra, which Maharishi alludes to in 
one of the SCI lessons, as the 108/112 ways of transcending.(Maharishi though 
didn't call it by it's correct name, but mentioned the Shiva Sutra or Samhita.)

Thinking of this, I think Maharishi always left a little door open, away from 
the main-stream line of thought, a programmer would say a back-door. I swear I 
heard him talk in the middle of the night about kechari mudra, as a state 
or/way to enlightenment, and nobody else whom I asked later was hearing it. I 
don't remember any more the exact context, and it was a very mysterious remark. 
As they say, the veda is for him who is awake.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

> 
> On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM, RoryGoff wrote:
> 
> > * * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have been 
> > shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; dhyana is 
> > in the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in the 
> > "avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow.

Vaj  wrote:
> That sounds to me more like a Theosophical POV and definitely differs from my 
> understanding from Hindu and Buddhist lines of realization.

* * * More like a borrowed language to describe the nature of the various 
chakra-strata as I perceive them. I use "buddhic" to denote the intuitional or 
airy realm of the heart; "atmic-anandic" to denote the bliss or space realm of 
the throat, and so on. I am no expert on Theosophy, but my take on them was 
they tended to be rather frustratingly abstract, never really grounding their 
insights. I have borrowed some of their terminology but grounded it into my own 
understanding of the chakras. Thus, to carry the limbs of yoga down the rest of 
the way, pratyahara or withdrawal of the senses relates to manas, the fiery 
manipura or navel chakra of lower mind; pranayama relates to the senses 
themselves, associated with the watery sex chakra (seat also of prana), and 
asanas relate to the karmendriyas or organs of action associated with the base 
chakra. But again, every chakra or realm is itself a totality of a full range 
of subchakras, and so on: Wheels within wheels.

> > However, the movement through these areas would not always or necessarily 
> > be "upward". Also, in our model, these chakra-stages could be likened to 
> > the numbers on a clock, and we could then complete their cycle many times, 
> > like the minute hand on a clock moving around, with each completion moving 
> > the base-line identification one stage further, like the clock's hour-hand. 
> > In this respect, subtle prana could be transcended by moving through the 
> > crown chakra as a minute-hand cycle to complete the larger hour-hand cycle 
> > of the sex, astral, sensory, or prana realm...

Vaj  wrote:
> In the Hindu and Buddhist tantric lines of practice, the karmic prana can be 
> transcended at ANY chakra (or channel-wheel) and become a unified-pair of 
> enlightened mind. The chakras simply represent doors karmic prana can enter 
> the central channel through. And realization can occur at any channel-wheel. 
> There are rishis whose realization occurred at the root chakra, there are 
> those whose realization occurred at other channel-wheels.

* * * Right; that ties in well enough with my own understanding -- wheels 
within wheels, and all that :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?

[wgm4u]

An enlightened jiva is the opposite of a jiva that is entangled in avidya 
(ignorance). Jiva simply means soul, but perhaps you were just trying to say 
that the jiva is always in bliss, since it is composed of the ananda-maya-kosha 
or the bliss covering of the ONE Spirit, and that would be correct.

Apparently you didn't like my usage of the word...sorry. If I were to say Dr. 
Peter is enlightened I would be saying the same thing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote:
>
> There is no such thing as an enlightened jiva. That's an oxymoron! 
> 
> --- On Fri, 1/28/11, wgm4u  wrote:
> 
> > From: wgm4u 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 2:13 PM
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > Yifu Xero  wrote:
> > > Subject: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it
> > exist?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > (statement of Dr. Greg Goode)::
> > > 
> > > "If anything exists, then it exists in an individual
> > way.   I say "if."  So 
> > > let's assume for a moment that enlightened persons
> > exist.  Look at how the 
> > > different traditions portray them:  In the satsang
> > format, it is a person with 
> > > very large eyes who walks and talks very slowly and
> > looks deeply into the eyes 
> > > of others.  In neo-advaita, it is a mind-body with no
> > doership inside.  In 
> > > Indian Advaita-Vedanta, it would be a swami wearing an
> > ochre robe uttering a lot 
> > > of Sanskrit phrases.  In Zen, it would be a very
> > stern old man with a shaved 
> > > head who shouts oracular phrases at unpredictable
> > times and laughs at other 
> > > unpredictable times.  In Tibetan Buddhism it would be
> > a person with a shaved 
> > > head with an endearingly sweet smile all the time.  
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Even the sterotypical images of enlightenment are
> > individualized and distinct 
> > > from each other, and we haven't gotten down to the
> > level of the person yet.  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So whatever exists, exists in a context of difference
> > from other existents.  But 
> > > the big question is, just what, if anything, what
> > really exists?"
> > 
> > Yes, the enlightened jivas, now one with the Atman, exist
> > as they choose, many have bodies made like that of glass
> > (akasha) and exist until the end of the manvantara until all
> > merges into the pralaya. (See MMY "Glow").
> > 
> > Upon the awakening of another Day of Brahma (or another
> > manvantara), they come out as they went in; some become
> > avataras, some become as Solar Systems or Suns, the universe
> > is constantly expanding, there is NO death.
> > 
> > Apparently some remain submerged and one with Brahman and
> > some remain BhaktisFWIW. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To subscribe, send a message to:
> > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > Or go to: 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> >     fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > 
> >
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:51 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

 

  

I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that is anything less
than worshipful "bashing".

So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a multitude
of shades (as I know you do.)

Joe! You're alive! Surgery over? Apparently successful, unless they have
email in heaven.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 2:02 PM, RoryGoff wrote:

> * * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have been 
> shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; dhyana is 
> in the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in the 
> "avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow.

That sounds to me more like a Theosophical POV and definitely differs from my 
understanding from Hindu and Buddhist lines of realization.

> However, the movement through these areas would not always or necessarily be 
> "upward". Also, in our model, these chakra-stages could be likened to the 
> numbers on a clock, and we could then complete their cycle many times, like 
> the minute hand on a clock moving around, with each completion moving the 
> base-line identification one stage further, like the clock's hour-hand. In 
> this respect, subtle prana could be transcended by moving through the crown 
> chakra as a minute-hand cycle to complete the larger hour-hand cycle of the 
> sex, astral, sensory, or prana realm...

In the Hindu and Buddhist tantric lines of practice, the karmic prana can be 
transcended at ANY chakra (or channel-wheel) and become a unified-pair of 
enlightened mind. The chakras simply represent doors karmic prana can enter the 
central channel through. And realization can occur at any channel-wheel. There 
are rishis whose realization occurred at the root chakra, there are those whose 
realization occurred at other channel-wheels.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge to Nabby

[Joe]

I notice that many here call any observation of MMY that is anything less than 
worshipful "bashing".

So much easier to see the world in black and white rather than a multitude of 
shades (as I know you do.)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Hi Nabby,
> 
>  
> 
> I was thinking about your reference to me as a "Maharishi Basher". I
> challenge you to find a single post in the FFL archives in which I have
> "bashed" Maharishi. If you find one in which you think I'm doing so, we'll
> see if anyone else agrees. 
> 
>  
> 
> Go at it dude.
> 
>  
> 
> Rick
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?

[Peter]

There is no such thing as an enlightened jiva. That's an oxymoron! 

--- On Fri, 1/28/11, wgm4u  wrote:

> From: wgm4u 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 2:13 PM
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> Yifu Xero  wrote:
> > Subject: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it
> exist?
> > 
> > 
> > (statement of Dr. Greg Goode)::
> > 
> > "If anything exists, then it exists in an individual
> way.   I say "if."  So 
> > let's assume for a moment that enlightened persons
> exist.  Look at how the 
> > different traditions portray them:  In the satsang
> format, it is a person with 
> > very large eyes who walks and talks very slowly and
> looks deeply into the eyes 
> > of others.  In neo-advaita, it is a mind-body with no
> doership inside.  In 
> > Indian Advaita-Vedanta, it would be a swami wearing an
> ochre robe uttering a lot 
> > of Sanskrit phrases.  In Zen, it would be a very
> stern old man with a shaved 
> > head who shouts oracular phrases at unpredictable
> times and laughs at other 
> > unpredictable times.  In Tibetan Buddhism it would be
> a person with a shaved 
> > head with an endearingly sweet smile all the time.  
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Even the sterotypical images of enlightenment are
> individualized and distinct 
> > from each other, and we haven't gotten down to the
> level of the person yet.  
> > 
> > 
> > So whatever exists, exists in a context of difference
> from other existents.  But 
> > the big question is, just what, if anything, what
> really exists?"
> 
> Yes, the enlightened jivas, now one with the Atman, exist
> as they choose, many have bodies made like that of glass
> (akasha) and exist until the end of the manvantara until all
> merges into the pralaya. (See MMY "Glow").
> 
> Upon the awakening of another Day of Brahma (or another
> manvantara), they come out as they went in; some become
> avataras, some become as Solar Systems or Suns, the universe
> is constantly expanding, there is NO death.
> 
> Apparently some remain submerged and one with Brahman and
> some remain BhaktisFWIW. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>     fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> 


  

[FairfieldLife] Challenge to Nabby

[Rick Archer]

Hi Nabby,

 

I was thinking about your reference to me as a "Maharishi Basher". I
challenge you to find a single post in the FFL archives in which I have
"bashed" Maharishi. If you find one in which you think I'm doing so, we'll
see if anyone else agrees. 

 

Go at it dude.

 

Rick 

[FairfieldLife] Machines of the Gods

[John]

The Greek priests of ancient times were good a fooling their subjects with the 
latest technological marvels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RfXcm1fS6Y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Dream

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> > On Behalf Of turquoiseb
> >
> > Had a funny dream last night. I dreamed that a local paper, 
> > The Iowa Source, had published a long post Barry had made 
> > to FFL as a cover story. The conclusion of the article was 
> > that he was prepared to sue MUM if necessary. Then I found 
> > myself rummaging through a drawer looking for a clean
> > hypodermic needle and some sort of anti-tuberculosis serum 
> > that I was supposed to inoculate Barry with. Then the cat 
> > woke me up.
> 
> Synchronicity, dude. Last night I dreamed that I 
> was just walking along, minding my own business,
> and some guy came running down the street waving
> his dick at me, claiming that it was some kind
> of hypodermic injection that I really, really 
> needed to receive.
> 
> Then reality woke me up. 
> 
> Did you really, or are you making that up? If you really 
> did, that's pretty strange. Don't read anything into my 
> dream. It was just one of those dreams.

I made it up. It was a joke, a funny. No one has
run down the street waving their dick at me in one
of my real dreams in months, and the last time it
happened it was Nabby, so the dick in question was 
like waving a pencil eraser around, and made very 
little impression. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thank you for not breeding

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "parsleysage"  wrote:
>
> ..AHE!...
> 
> 
> It is a lack of faith.

Meow, no one is crying for lack of faith in this discussion.  We are talking 
about world problems that have to addressed by humans who are supposedly 
endowed with intelligence and reason by Nature.


> There are plants that are 'superplants', whole foods in and of themselves 
> that are growing in salt water- and one in sand and no very little water- 
> recent discoveries- you can call it evolution; or you can call it Divine 
> Beauty of Love Intent- Whatever happens there is always a way of sustaining.

No doubt, these plants can be used for food by humans.  But the problem of 
overpopulation includes the continuation of the economy, education, adequate 
living standards, culture and religion.

 
> If the population grows, new palnts that take less land mass will be- and are 
> now, being discovered. It will be a change, a different way of energy (food) 
> consumption. And there's always other things like sungazing and pulling from 
> stars for energy, and a plethera of other means of sustaining life.

At the present time, some scientists consider the civilizations on Earth to be 
Type Zero.  IOW, we are still dependent on fossil fuels for power and energy.  
The use of the sun and stars is considered to be the sources of Type 2 and Type 
3 civilizations.  Unfortunately, the humans on Earth have not reached these 
higher levels at the present or any time soon.


 ...ANNND what if we just changed (end of the world as we know it- and I m 
feelin fine)...our life form into a different structure, one that is not 
dependent on ingesting dying cell structures, be it carrot or animal-

Humans are still carbon based organisms.  I don't believe humans will 
dramatically evolve into devas or angels any time soon either.


 what if ? What if that is what the Mayans meant?

The Mayans had a unique culture and civilization at its height.  But it also a 
dark side to it, which many people tend to forget.  The Mayans believed in 
human sacrifices to sustain their world and style of living.  Its civilization 
eventually collapsed due to drought, according to recent studies by 
archeologists.


 We are all only drawing on energy sources and there is an intelligent plan. Do 
not doubt. Go and fill the earth and know things will not stay the same, yet 
this stays the same- God , in His Love, has made ways, and there will always be 
a way. It will be beautiful. Believe.

A Christian tele-evangelist said recently that the command to "bear fruit and 
multiply" only applied to the time of Noah since at that time almost all of the 
humans were wiped out by the Deluge.  The evangelist said that that the 
original command is no applicable in this day and age.  This could be another 
point of discussion if anyone is interested in pursuing this.






> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > The ideal is to have a sustainable population growth.  China has 
> > drastically cut its population growth which may be a detriment in the 
> > future.  Due to the population decrease, they may not have enough young 
> > people to take over their booming economy and to care for their aging 
> > population.
> > 
> > This same scenario can be said for Japan, and European countries like 
> > Sweden and France.
> > 
> > Nonetheless, it is true that many poor countries are increasing more 
> > rapidly in population than the more affluent countries.  In these 
> > countries, it would be appropriate to curb the growth to sustain its 
> > economy, population and style of living.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "PaliGap"  wrote:
> > >
> > > "Gro Harlem Brundtland, the UN Chair for the World 
> > > Commission on Environment and Development, worries 
> > > that population growth is a "ticking time bomb" and 
> > > that "we may soon be facing a new famine on a scale 
> > > dwarfing even Malthus's most pessimistic predictions".
> > > 
> > > Gro Harlem Brundtland has FOUR children.
> > > 
> > > Brundtland's views were heavily influenced by her 
> > > father who went to America on a Rockefeller 
> > > scholarship, according to the UN. At the age of seven 
> > > she was enrolled in the Children's section of the 
> > > Norwegian Labour Movement.
> > > 
> > > Al Gore says that Third World nations are producing 
> > > too many children too fast and that it's time to cut 
> > > out-of-control population growth, which is driving 
> > > global warming.
> > > 
> > > Al Gore has FOUR children.
> > > 
> > > James Lovelock believes that we are headed for global 
> > > catastrophe because of overpopulation and that Malthus 
> > > was right to say that "overpopulation would ruin us all"
> > > 
> > > Lovelock has FOUR children
> > > 
> > > Ted Turner believes that overpopulation is the world's 
> > > number one problem and has said that a Chinese style 
> > > one-child policy should be enfo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[Bhairitu]

On 01/28/2011 10:01 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
>> Live and direct from Cairo courtesy of Al-Jazeera:
>> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/al-jazeera/
>>
>> This summer is going to be a riot!
>>
>> All praise to Allah that I am /not/ watching this go on live.  I've stayed
> so many times in the Nile Hilton, visited so many of the squares in Cairo
> and Alexandria and so many of the towns where the riots are happening.  It's
> been ever clear to me that Egypt was a powder keg, a place where passion
> gushes from the mouths and gestures of these people (well, Egyptian men,
> OK?) even when sitting back smoking sheesha and having a glass of shai.   So
> many times I've just walked up to one or more of these men at the cafe,
> introduced myself, sat down, drank cardamon laced coffee and talked
> politics.
>
> Egypt is a very important nation.  It's the 2nd largest recipient of foreign
> aide, after Israel.   This summer will indeed be a riot when this unrest
> spreads throughout the Middle East all the way to Saudi Arabia.  I expected
> the entire ME to catch fire when we liberated Iraq but it didn't happen.
> Perhaps I saw the future right but was wrong on the timing.  Whatever.  We
> are all going to be in for one Helluva ride.   We elected a president who
> offered us CHANGE.  How little did we know...

Thanks for sharing your experience.  It's always great to hear from 
someone who's been there and not just as a tourist.

I said back at the beginning of the year that 2011 was the year for the 
"shit to hit the fan" and things are right on schedule.  I expect things 
to begin heating up in the US about March.  Especially if the IMF wants 
our taxes doubled.  Here's an interview with Boston University economist 
Dr. Laurence Kotlikoff who says the government is fudging on the numbers 
(doh!) and  the US is actually bankrupt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sstBdoOoyR4

 From 2006:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/99383

And I posted much earlier probably on a.m.t about the IMF and Argentina 
having seen a revealing documentary on FSTV in 2003.

[FairfieldLife] Hackers can turn your home computer into a bomb [1 Attachment]

[Tom Pall]

http://blog.geeksaresexytech.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/computer_bomb.jpg

or

http://tinyurl.com/4mkxf7c

or attached

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

Yes; many thanks! This evokes several other good points for me -- (1) "dying" 
is indeed simply transcendence, as we lift the finger of our awareness out of 
one density of Us to surrender into and remember another simpler, pre-existent 
one, 
(2) The "void" is not empty but emptiful; it is shining with the infinite light 
of self-awareness;
(3) The meaning of everything is in our own simple Being;
(4) That Love is the binding force of our Self-knowledge;
(5) the end of one cycle is always the beginning of another :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> or put another way ;-) :
> 
> Turn off your mind, relax
> and float down stream
> It is not dying
> It is not dying
> 
> Lay down all thought
> Surrender to the void
> It is shining
> It is shining
> 
> That you may see
> The meaning of within
> It is being
> It is being
> 
> That love is all
> And love is everyone
> It is knowing
> It is knowing
> 
> That ignorance and hate
> May mourn the dead
> It is believing
> It is believing
> 
> But listen to the
> color of your dreams
> It is not living
> It is not living
> 
> Or play the game of 
> existence to the end
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning
> Of the beginning 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mleroygoffiv"  wrote:
> >
> > * * * Beautiful, many thanks! 
> > 
> > I love those first few lines: "When I get to the bottom 
> > > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > > Where I stop and turn 
> > > and I go for a ride 
> > > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again" -- 
> > 
> > That really evokes our "progress" around and through the 
> > black-hole/white-hole torus of awareness :-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Rory for sharing your 'map'. That jigsaw nature of the puzzle, 
> > > also called, The Rise and Fall of the wave in the ocean', reminds me of 
> > > these poetic verses of our favorate sing-songwriter:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > When I get to the bottom 
> > > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > > Where I stop and turn 
> > > and I go for a ride 
> > > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again 
> > > Yeah, yeah, yeah 
> > > Do you don't you want me to love you 
> > > I'm coming down fast but I'm miles above you 
> > > Tell me tell me come on tell me the answer 
> > > and you may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > > 
> > > I will you won't you want me to make you 
> > > I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you 
> > > Tell me tell me tell me the answer 
> > > You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4WoTOX8Lt4 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > * * * Experientially, though, it is quite correct; that is, it 
> > > > > describes a legitimate aspect of Awakening, in which one feels 
> > > > > gut-deep as if one has lost one's old I-point; the separate wave has 
> > > > > utterly dissolved into the ocean. When one looks inside immediately 
> > > > > after Awakening, there is Nothing there. No center, no self, no 
> > > > > private I-ness. Eventually one rummages around and produces the 
> > > > > remnants of an I and puts it on, like an old wrinkled shirt, so we 
> > > > > can continue the drama, but never again "are" we that I, not in any 
> > > > > conventional sense of the word, anyhow. And that I is now or soon 
> > > > > appreciated as a charming collapse of the Whole, containing the Whole 
> > > > > together with all of its particles or "other" I's.
> > > > >
> > > > Here is how I interpret this "No-self" experience: The so-called states 
> > > > of TC, CC, GC, and UC describe an ever-closer approach between Purusha 
> > > > and Prakriti, or the Absolute and the Relative, or Father Spirit and 
> > > > Mother Matter. Kundalini, both from below and from above, acts as a 
> > > > kind of more-or-less constant conductor or tunneler to effect their 
> > > > approach and eventual marriage.
> > > > 
> > > > Using a "Cosmic Body" as a map of their progress, we can posit that 
> > > > Transcendental Consciousness (TC) activates the Crown Chakra (Shiva; 
> > > > Purusha) and the Foot Chakra (Shakti; Prakriti); Cosmic Consciousness 
> > > > (CC) moves down into the Brow (Witness) and up into the Base (Organs of 
> > > > action; Physical plane) to effect a witnessing of activity; 
> > > > God-Consciousness (GC) moves down into the Throat (Space; bliss) and up 
> > > > into the Sex (Senses; Astral-emotional) to structure blissful senses 
> > > > and subtle-body experiences; and Unity Consciousness (UC) moves down 
> > > > into the Heart (Buddhic intuition; finest feeling) and up into the 
> > > > Navel (Manas or animal mind) to move beyond the senses into an 
> > > > intuitive grasp of One-ness. 
> > > > 
> > > > What has intermediat

[FairfieldLife] Killer Text: A Russian suicide bomber blows up by accident

[Tom Pall]

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/killer-text-a-russian-suicide-bomber-blows-up-by-accident/8015?tag=mantle_skin;content

or

http://tinyurl.com/667wgdx

"On the heels of the serious explosions January 24th at Domodedovo airport
in Moscow that killed 39 people and injured 178 more, Russian security
services have released strange details of a failed New Years Eve plot to
detonate an explosive in Red Square on New Year’s Eve.

An unnamed woman, described as a ‘black widow’, was set to detonate a belt
of explosives in Red Square when instead the explosive went off early inside
the safe house she was in. The bomb, like a number of home made explosives
used by militants or terrorists around the globe, was set to be triggered
via a cell phone signal, specifically a text message."
[image: Nyet vkhod by Maarten Dirkse, CC
3.0]

[FairfieldLife] Weathergirl

[whynotnow7]

This is a song about my daughter:

Weathergirl

http://www.box.net/shared/1nobueuqp7

music copyright jim flanegin and templedog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu Xero  wrote:
> Subject: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?
> 
> 
> (statement of Dr. Greg Goode)::
> 
> "If anything exists, then it exists in an individual way.   I say "if."  So 
> let's assume for a moment that enlightened persons exist.  Look at how the 
> different traditions portray them:  In the satsang format, it is a person 
> with 
> very large eyes who walks and talks very slowly and looks deeply into the 
> eyes 
> of others.  In neo-advaita, it is a mind-body with no doership inside.  In 
> Indian Advaita-Vedanta, it would be a swami wearing an ochre robe uttering a 
> lot 
> of Sanskrit phrases.  In Zen, it would be a very stern old man with a shaved 
> head who shouts oracular phrases at unpredictable times and laughs at other 
> unpredictable times.  In Tibetan Buddhism it would be a person with a shaved 
> head with an endearingly sweet smile all the time.   
> 
> 
> Even the sterotypical images of enlightenment are individualized and distinct 
> from each other, and we haven't gotten down to the level of the person yet.  
> 
> 
> So whatever exists, exists in a context of difference from other existents.  
> But 
> the big question is, just what, if anything, what really exists?"

Yes, the enlightened jivas, now one with the Atman, exist as they choose, many 
have bodies made like that of glass (akasha) and exist until the end of the 
manvantara until all merges into the pralaya. (See MMY "Glow").

Upon the awakening of another Day of Brahma (or another manvantara), they come 
out as they went in; some become avataras, some become as Solar Systems or 
Suns, the universe is constantly expanding, there is NO death.

Apparently some remain submerged and one with Brahman and some remain 
BhaktisFWIW. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[whynotnow7]

or put another way ;-) :

Turn off your mind, relax
and float down stream
It is not dying
It is not dying

Lay down all thought
Surrender to the void
It is shining
It is shining

That you may see
The meaning of within
It is being
It is being

That love is all
And love is everyone
It is knowing
It is knowing

That ignorance and hate
May mourn the dead
It is believing
It is believing

But listen to the
color of your dreams
It is not living
It is not living

Or play the game of 
existence to the end
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning
Of the beginning 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mleroygoffiv"  wrote:
>
> * * * Beautiful, many thanks! 
> 
> I love those first few lines: "When I get to the bottom 
> > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > Where I stop and turn 
> > and I go for a ride 
> > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again" -- 
> 
> That really evokes our "progress" around and through the 
> black-hole/white-hole torus of awareness :-)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks Rory for sharing your 'map'. That jigsaw nature of the puzzle, also 
> > called, The Rise and Fall of the wave in the ocean', reminds me of these 
> > poetic verses of our favorate sing-songwriter:
> > 
> > 
> > When I get to the bottom 
> > I go back to the top of the slide 
> > Where I stop and turn 
> > and I go for a ride 
> > Till I get to the bottom and I see you again 
> > Yeah, yeah, yeah 
> > Do you don't you want me to love you 
> > I'm coming down fast but I'm miles above you 
> > Tell me tell me come on tell me the answer 
> > and you may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > 
> > I will you won't you want me to make you 
> > I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you 
> > Tell me tell me tell me the answer 
> > You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4WoTOX8Lt4 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > * * * Experientially, though, it is quite correct; that is, it 
> > > > describes a legitimate aspect of Awakening, in which one feels gut-deep 
> > > > as if one has lost one's old I-point; the separate wave has utterly 
> > > > dissolved into the ocean. When one looks inside immediately after 
> > > > Awakening, there is Nothing there. No center, no self, no private 
> > > > I-ness. Eventually one rummages around and produces the remnants of an 
> > > > I and puts it on, like an old wrinkled shirt, so we can continue the 
> > > > drama, but never again "are" we that I, not in any conventional sense 
> > > > of the word, anyhow. And that I is now or soon appreciated as a 
> > > > charming collapse of the Whole, containing the Whole together with all 
> > > > of its particles or "other" I's.
> > > >
> > > Here is how I interpret this "No-self" experience: The so-called states 
> > > of TC, CC, GC, and UC describe an ever-closer approach between Purusha 
> > > and Prakriti, or the Absolute and the Relative, or Father Spirit and 
> > > Mother Matter. Kundalini, both from below and from above, acts as a kind 
> > > of more-or-less constant conductor or tunneler to effect their approach 
> > > and eventual marriage.
> > > 
> > > Using a "Cosmic Body" as a map of their progress, we can posit that 
> > > Transcendental Consciousness (TC) activates the Crown Chakra (Shiva; 
> > > Purusha) and the Foot Chakra (Shakti; Prakriti); Cosmic Consciousness 
> > > (CC) moves down into the Brow (Witness) and up into the Base (Organs of 
> > > action; Physical plane) to effect a witnessing of activity; 
> > > God-Consciousness (GC) moves down into the Throat (Space; bliss) and up 
> > > into the Sex (Senses; Astral-emotional) to structure blissful senses and 
> > > subtle-body experiences; and Unity Consciousness (UC) moves down into the 
> > > Heart (Buddhic intuition; finest feeling) and up into the Navel (Manas or 
> > > animal mind) to move beyond the senses into an intuitive grasp of 
> > > One-ness. 
> > > 
> > > What has intermediated between these poles of Absolute and Relative, both 
> > > binding them in a relationship and yet keeping them apart, is the I AM, 
> > > the Soul or the Mind, the separate Ego. As these poles approach each 
> > > other, the intermediary Soul "shrinks" until it occupies only our Sacred 
> > > Heart or Solar Plexus point. At this moment, the Soul becomes Self-aware; 
> > > we merge with our golden Soul as our own Solar Angel, and find ourselves 
> > > at the paradise-center of the universe, in a place of utter love and 
> > > at-homeness, beyond spacetime -- what could be called the culmination of 
> > > UC, or the beginnings of Brahman. 
> > > 
> > > But the marriage is not yet complete, and soon after this Soul-merge, our 
> > > Father-Spirit and Mother-Matter actually meet and overlap across our 
> > > Solar-Plex

[FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic Science

[John]

The Dark Ages were a Western historical fact, which were due to the collapse of 
the Roman Empire.  The clip mentioned it started around 800 CE to 1300 CE.  
During this time period, the learning and knowledge of the Romans and Greeks 
were lost in Europe.  Fortunately, that knowledge were preserved by Catholic 
monks and the Arabs in Alexandria and elsewhere.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> If you are going to redefine history, like using the term
> "dark ages", you should be more straightforward by calling
> it "My Claims About History".
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > During the Dark Ages, the Islamic countries were ahead of Europe in
> learning and technology.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2HcjanNWFM&feature=related
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Here is how I interpret this "No-self" experience: The so-called states 
> > > of TC, CC, GC, and UC describe an ever-closer approach between Purusha 
> > > and Prakriti, or the Absolute and the Relative, or Father Spirit and 
> > > Mother Matter. Kundalini, both from below and from above, acts as a kind 
> > > of more-or-less constant conductor or tunneler to effect their approach 
> > > and eventual marriage.
> > > 
> > > Using a "Cosmic Body" as a map of their progress, we can posit that 
> > > Transcendental Consciousness (TC) activates the Crown Chakra (Shiva; 
> > > Purusha) and the Foot Chakra (Shakti; Prakriti); Cosmic Consciousness 
> > > (CC) moves down into the Brow (Witness) and up into the Base (Organs of 
> > > action; Physical plane) to effect a witnessing of activity; 
> > > God-Consciousness (GC) moves down into the Throat (Space; bliss) and up 
> > > into the Sex (Senses; Astral-emotional) to structure blissful senses and 
> > > subtle-body experiences; and Unity Consciousness (UC) moves down into the 
> > > Heart (Buddhic intuition; finest feeling) and up into the Navel (Manas or 
> > > animal mind) to move beyond the senses into an intuitive grasp of 
> > > One-ness. 
> > 
 "wgm4u"  wrote:
> > > Actually I think it's a little different in Classical Yoga, when the 
> > > Serpent Fire reaches the 6th Chakra that is Self-Realization or what MMY 
> > > calls CC, when it further reaches the 7th that is what MMY calls Unity or 
> > > what classical Yoga calls CC.  Different terms for the same thing, try 
> > > not to let it confuse you.
> > 
"vajradhatu108"  wrote:
>
> Actually basic forms of samadhi begin in the upper ajna. Then one goes 
> through a series of novel samadhic experiences.  CC or turiyatita is 
> associated with consciousness stabilizing at a certain point above the crown 
> of the head. It's really only in this realm that one begins to transcend the 
> outer (physical form) of the breath and taps into the inner breath.
>
* * * FWIW, that samadhi corresponds to the ajna is also what I have been 
shown: i.e., that dharana is in the "buddhic" realm of the heart; dhyana is in 
the "atmic-anandic" area of the throat, and samadhi is in the 
"avyakta/monadic/witness" area of the brow. However, the movement through these 
areas would not always or necessarily be "upward". Also, in our model, these 
chakra-stages could be likened to the numbers on a clock, and we could then 
complete their cycle many times, like the minute hand on a clock moving around, 
with each completion moving the base-line identification one stage further, 
like the clock's hour-hand. In this respect, subtle prana could be transcended 
by moving through the crown chakra as a minute-hand cycle to complete the 
larger hour-hand cycle of the sex, astral, sensory, or prana realm...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Islamic Science

[John]

The Iraq war was Bush's blunder.  He now admits that the invasion was 
perpetuated by a failure in American spy intelligence. But at the height of the 
war, he gave the chief of CIA a medal of honor for his role in the American 
invasion.

In my estimation, that meant that Tennet, the CIA chief, had warned Bush of the 
unreliable intelligence in Iraq.  However, due to his commitment to an 
aggressive military doctrine, Bush ordered the attack anyway on false data and 
assumptions.


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > During the Dark Ages, the Islamic countries were ahead of Europe
> > in learning and technology.
> 
> Not just in the "Dark Ages." Before the first Iraq War,
> literacy rates in Iraq were among the highest in the
> world. In 1989, school enrollment in Iraq was higher
> than the average rate for all developing countries, but
> over the last decade (since the US "liberated" it), the
> number of elementary school dropouts has increased by
> more than 30 percent.
> 
> According to a 2005 study issued by the United Nations
> Development Programme (UNDP), the US war against Iraq
> has resulted in a "social tragedy." Among the indices
> of social misery contained in the report are the following:
> 
> * Nearly a quarter of Iraq's children suffer from chronic
> malnutrition.
> 
> * The probability of dying before 40 for Iraqi children
> born between 2000 and 2004 is approximately three times
> the level in neighboring countries.
> 
> * Three out of four Iraqi families report an unstable
> supply of electricity.
> 
> * 40 percent of families in urban areas live in neighbor-
> hoods where sewage can be seen in the streets.
> 
> * More than 722,000 Iraqi families have no access to
> either safe or stable drinking water.
> 
> * The jobless rate for young men with secondary or higher
> education stands at 37 percent.
> 
> * The literacy rate for women has stagnated, and, in
> certain regions, the level of female illiteracy is very
> high. Some 65 percent of the adult population in Iraq is
> literate, compared with 86 percent in Jordan and 75
> percent in Syria.
> 
>   [http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/images/1030-02.jpg]
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Conditional Existence, essay by Greg Goode

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:24 PM, emptybill wrote:


Why bother posting something so nonsensical … except to confuse?



In the dharma-biz there's no such thing as bad publicity! It's all  
good, even it's not all good and there's no-one to perceive the  
alleged goodness or not-goodness or the goodness and not-goodness  
arising out of a relational interdependence.




Unless of course someone sues him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

[Peter]

We differ in what it is seen as. Truly I think this applies: YMMV

--- On Fri, 1/28/11, wgm4u  wrote:

> From: wgm4u 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 28, 2011, 1:01 PM
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> Peter  wrote:
> 
>  Like a man dying of thirst in the desert, is given a
> canteen of water, slakes his thirst and then complains about
> the color of the canteen!      
> 
> Or, like a man who gives you a boat with one oar. Or, how
> about a man who gives you a three legged dog? :-)  At
> any rate, you get my point, give credit where credit is due,
> but see it for what it is. :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Or go to: 
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> and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[mleroygoffiv]

* * * Beautiful, many thanks! 

I love those first few lines: "When I get to the bottom 
> I go back to the top of the slide 
> Where I stop and turn 
> and I go for a ride 
> Till I get to the bottom and I see you again" -- 

That really evokes our "progress" around and through the black-hole/white-hole 
torus of awareness :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Thanks Rory for sharing your 'map'. That jigsaw nature of the puzzle, also 
> called, The Rise and Fall of the wave in the ocean', reminds me of these 
> poetic verses of our favorate sing-songwriter:
> 
> 
> When I get to the bottom 
> I go back to the top of the slide 
> Where I stop and turn 
> and I go for a ride 
> Till I get to the bottom and I see you again 
> Yeah, yeah, yeah 
> Do you don't you want me to love you 
> I'm coming down fast but I'm miles above you 
> Tell me tell me come on tell me the answer 
> and you may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> 
> I will you won't you want me to make you 
> I'm coming down fast but don't let me break you 
> Tell me tell me tell me the answer 
> You may be a lover but you ain't no dancer 
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4WoTOX8Lt4 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > * * * Experientially, though, it is quite correct; that is, it describes 
> > > a legitimate aspect of Awakening, in which one feels gut-deep as if one 
> > > has lost one's old I-point; the separate wave has utterly dissolved into 
> > > the ocean. When one looks inside immediately after Awakening, there is 
> > > Nothing there. No center, no self, no private I-ness. Eventually one 
> > > rummages around and produces the remnants of an I and puts it on, like an 
> > > old wrinkled shirt, so we can continue the drama, but never again "are" 
> > > we that I, not in any conventional sense of the word, anyhow. And that I 
> > > is now or soon appreciated as a charming collapse of the Whole, 
> > > containing the Whole together with all of its particles or "other" I's.
> > >
> > Here is how I interpret this "No-self" experience: The so-called states of 
> > TC, CC, GC, and UC describe an ever-closer approach between Purusha and 
> > Prakriti, or the Absolute and the Relative, or Father Spirit and Mother 
> > Matter. Kundalini, both from below and from above, acts as a kind of 
> > more-or-less constant conductor or tunneler to effect their approach and 
> > eventual marriage.
> > 
> > Using a "Cosmic Body" as a map of their progress, we can posit that 
> > Transcendental Consciousness (TC) activates the Crown Chakra (Shiva; 
> > Purusha) and the Foot Chakra (Shakti; Prakriti); Cosmic Consciousness (CC) 
> > moves down into the Brow (Witness) and up into the Base (Organs of action; 
> > Physical plane) to effect a witnessing of activity; God-Consciousness (GC) 
> > moves down into the Throat (Space; bliss) and up into the Sex (Senses; 
> > Astral-emotional) to structure blissful senses and subtle-body experiences; 
> > and Unity Consciousness (UC) moves down into the Heart (Buddhic intuition; 
> > finest feeling) and up into the Navel (Manas or animal mind) to move beyond 
> > the senses into an intuitive grasp of One-ness. 
> > 
> > What has intermediated between these poles of Absolute and Relative, both 
> > binding them in a relationship and yet keeping them apart, is the I AM, the 
> > Soul or the Mind, the separate Ego. As these poles approach each other, the 
> > intermediary Soul "shrinks" until it occupies only our Sacred Heart or 
> > Solar Plexus point. At this moment, the Soul becomes Self-aware; we merge 
> > with our golden Soul as our own Solar Angel, and find ourselves at the 
> > paradise-center of the universe, in a place of utter love and at-homeness, 
> > beyond spacetime -- what could be called the culmination of UC, or the 
> > beginnings of Brahman. 
> > 
> > But the marriage is not yet complete, and soon after this Soul-merge, our 
> > Father-Spirit and Mother-Matter actually meet and overlap across our 
> > Solar-Plexus or Sacred Heart, and this eclipses our Soul or separate Self, 
> > which is no longer required as an intermediary between Spirit and Matter. 
> > The result could variously be called Nirvana -- the blowing out of the 
> > candle -- or Awakening into the direct Understanding of the the emptiful 
> > paradox of Brahman, or the Crucifixion of our Inner Christ, depending upon 
> > our framework.
> > 
> > Beyond this point, there are a number of additional stages as Father-Spirit 
> > and Mother-Matter overlap more and more, expanding from the Solar Plexus 
> > both upward and downward to reactivate all the chakras again, only now in 
> > terms of Us, of Wholeness. We might call these various stages Krishna-I and 
> > -II (the fip-sides of UC and GC) and Shiva-I and -II (the flip-sides of CC 
> > and TC). 
> > 
> > But this is only a map, not the mult

[FairfieldLife] Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?

[Yifu Xero]

-
Subject: Individuality in Enlightenment. Does it exist?


(statement of Dr. Greg Goode)::

"If anything exists, then it exists in an individual way.   I say "if."  So 
let's assume for a moment that enlightened persons exist.  Look at how the 
different traditions portray them:  In the satsang format, it is a person with 
very large eyes who walks and talks very slowly and looks deeply into the eyes 
of others.  In neo-advaita, it is a mind-body with no doership inside.  In 
Indian Advaita-Vedanta, it would be a swami wearing an ochre robe uttering a 
lot 
of Sanskrit phrases.  In Zen, it would be a very stern old man with a shaved 
head who shouts oracular phrases at unpredictable times and laughs at other 
unpredictable times.  In Tibetan Buddhism it would be a person with a shaved 
head with an endearingly sweet smile all the time.   


Even the sterotypical images of enlightenment are individualized and distinct 
from each other, and we haven't gotten down to the level of the person yet.  


So whatever exists, exists in a context of difference from other existents.  
But 
the big question is, just what, if anything, what really exists?"


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[mleroygoffiv]

 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > In that state, what exactly do you anticipate remains of any 
> > > individuality after the physical body dies?

"RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > * * * I don't really anticipate. In what state is that? I don't identify 
> > with any of these states of consciousness; they are "jigsaw pieces" inside 
> > Us, different ways to slice up our simple consciousness: like conic 
> > sections. We are not any particular conic section -- not the point (sleep), 
> > or the line (dream), or the X (waking), or the circle (TC), or the ellipse 
> > (CC), or the parabola (GC), or the hyperbola (UC); we are the cone itself, 
> > containing all of them, yet "beyond" any of them, as they are all one 
> > dimension smaller than we are; as slices of Us they are dualistic 
> > descriptors of a nondual Presence. 
> > 
* * * Just to continue this analogy to the uttermost, BC or the disappearance 
of the separate self would involve "backing up" our attention from the 
double-cone enough to realize it is actually the central spindle of a torus; 
then we would see that the various conic sections are actually all surrounded 
by (in the case of the Sleeping point, the TC circle, and the CC ellipse) the 
same circle, or actually flow into (in the case of the Dreaming line, the 
Waking X, the GC parabola, and the UC hyperbola) that same surrounding 
curvature. In other words, the container of Awareness now knows itself or 
remembers itself to be always the same, regardless of any spacetime state of 
consciousness it contains. So now we could go back into and investigate those 
"same" states of consciousness from the context of Wholeness and discover 
entirely new properties in them.

> > From one point of view, the physical body dies and we find ourselves 
> > inhabiting a subtle or astral body; that too dies and we find ourselves in 
> > a mental vehicle or dense soul; this too dies and we find ourselves in a 
> > causal vehicle, and so on, stripping away vehicle after vehicle: buddhic, 
> > atmic/andanda, avyakta, Purusha... and yet we may experience all of these 
> > deaths while still in this body! Death is not what it may seem, nor is 
> > life; these are another "artificial" duality, making sense only as a paired 
> > concept in the context of spacetime.
> > 
> > Our most cherished individuality is universal, is eternal and outside of 
> > spacetime and beyond any container, gross or subtle. Any of our countless 
> > gross or subtle vehicles may come and go as they have always done; in that 
> > sense they too are eternal, as they are *always* changing -- but the only 
> > "thing" which is unchanging and eternal is the only "thing" which we 
> > already are, and have always been.
> >
"do.rflex"  wrote:
>
 > Thanks.
>
* * * My pleasure; thank you for asking. The key here is our solving the 
apparent opposition in the ideas of individual *vs.* universal, or Self *vs.* 
not-Self. These are actually a "false" dichotomy, true in spacetime only, but 
from our point of view actually two sides of the same non-dual coin. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conditional Existence, essay by Greg Goode

[emptybill]

Your author left out the final conclusion.



·If all things are inter-dependent



* If they only exist through dependence upon something  else that
is dependent



* If there is nothing within this universe that  is independent
in-itself



*  If the  universe itself does not exist independently



* If there is nothing ontologically independent  which supports
this inter-dependent universe



Then nothing exists at all, either through itself or another. Nothing
exists as such … nothing has any existence in any way whatsoever.
Even "non-existence" does not exist, including any type of,
value of, or mode of "non-being".



To say "things" have only "conventional existence" means
that they are only conventional names applied to mere appearances. It
means there is nothing "there" and nothing "here".



Making such statements is ontological nihilism at best … since who
is making claims to whom?



Why bother posting something so nonsensical … except to confuse?


*






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu Xero  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Conditional Existence, essay by Greg Goode
>
>
> from the Greg Goode website:
>
> "
> Conventional Existence
> So how do things exist if they don’t exist inherently?
According to the Buddhist
> teachings, things exist in an everyday, non-inherent, dependent way.
Our mode of
> existence is dependent on many things, such as the causes and
conditions that
> give rise to us, the components that make us up, and the ways we are
cognized
> and categorized. According to the teachings, we are not separate and
independent
> entities, but rather we exist in dependence on webworks of relations
and
> transactions.
> For example, we can say that a bottle of milk exists in a dependent,
> conventional way because you can go to the store, lift the bottle of
milk off
> the shelf, pay for it, and bring it home. It exists in dependence on
its
> surroundings, its having been manufactured, and in relation to the
actions of
> the store employees and yourself. The bottle of milk is not found to
exist
> independently of these things.
> It is taught that all things are empty and dependent like this. That
includes
> people and all other living beings, as well as consciousness and
> unconsciousness; pleasure and pain; time and space; cause and effect;
good and
> bad; logic and math; language, meaning and reference; art, commerce
and science;
> planets, boulders and bridges; unicorns and Sherlock Holmes; energy,
thoughts,
> feelings, and bodily sensations. Whatever exists is said to exist
> conventionally, but not inherently."
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A free course from Harvard online

[whynotnow7]

Its a start - Harvard has an endowment (bank account) of $25B, on which they 
pay *zero* taxes. The endowment is supposed to be used to make their education 
more affordable and available. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> This may be of interest to a lot of people
> 
> Take a front row seat at the first course Harvard has ever made available to
> everyone, online and on air.
> 
> Justice is one of the most popular courses in Harvard history. Now you can
> take the same journey in moral reflection that has captivated thousands of
> students, as Harvard opens its classroom to the world.
> 
> http://www.justiceharvard.org/
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana (concentration) beautifully explained!

[RoryGoff]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > In that state, what exactly do you anticipate remains of any 
> > > individuality after the physical body dies?

 "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> >
> > * * * I don't really anticipate. In what state is that? I don't identify 
> > with any of these states of consciousness; they are "jigsaw pieces" inside 
> > Us, different ways to slice up our simple consciousness: like conic 
> > sections. We are not any particular conic section -- not the point (sleep), 
> > or the line (dream), or the X (waking), or the circle (TC), or the ellipse 
> > (CC), or the parabola (GC), or the hyperbola (UC); we are the cone itself, 
> > containing all of them, yet "beyond" any of them, as they are all one 
> > dimension smaller than we are; as slices of Us they are dualistic 
> > descriptors of a nondual Presence. 
> > 
> > From one point of view, the physical body dies and we find ourselves 
> > inhabiting a subtle or astral body; that too dies and we find ourselves in 
> > a mental vehicle or dense soul; this too dies and we find ourselves in a 
> > causal vehicle, and so on, stripping away vehicle after vehicle: buddhic, 
> > atmic/andanda, avyakta, Purusha... and yet we may experience all of these 
> > deaths while still in this body! Death is not what it may seem, nor is 
> > life; these are another "artificial" duality, making sense only as a paired 
> > concept in the context of spacetime.
> > 
> > Our most cherished individuality is universal, is eternal and outside of 
> > spacetime and beyond any container, gross or subtle. Any of our countless 
> > gross or subtle vehicles may come and go as they have always done; in that 
> > sense they too are eternal, as they are *always* changing -- but the only 
> > "thing" which is unchanging and eternal is the only "thing" which we 
> > already are, and have always been.
> >
"do.rflex"  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
>
* * * My pleasure; thanks for asking. The tricky part is in our old conceptions 
of Individual *vs.* Universal, or Self *vs.* Not-self. Those too are simply 
spacetime-bound concepts, two sides of the same nondual coin; there's only Us 
here :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

[Vaj]

On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:01 PM, wgm4u wrote:




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter   
wrote:


 Like a man dying of thirst in the desert, is given a canteen of  
water, slakes his thirst and then complains about the color of the  
canteen!


Or, like a man who gives you a boat with one oar. Or, how about a  
man who gives you a three legged dog? :-)  At any rate, you get my  
point, give credit where credit is due, but see it for what it is. :-)



How about an infinite canteen with a hole in it?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Watch the Egyptian Riots Live

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:

> Live and direct from Cairo courtesy of Al-Jazeera:
> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/al-jazeera/
>
> This summer is going to be a riot!
>
> All praise to Allah that I am /not/ watching this go on live.  I've stayed
so many times in the Nile Hilton, visited so many of the squares in Cairo
and Alexandria and so many of the towns where the riots are happening.  It's
been ever clear to me that Egypt was a powder keg, a place where passion
gushes from the mouths and gestures of these people (well, Egyptian men,
OK?) even when sitting back smoking sheesha and having a glass of shai.   So
many times I've just walked up to one or more of these men at the cafe,
introduced myself, sat down, drank cardamon laced coffee and talked
politics.

Egypt is a very important nation.  It's the 2nd largest recipient of foreign
aide, after Israel.   This summer will indeed be a riot when this unrest
spreads throughout the Middle East all the way to Saudi Arabia.  I expected
the entire ME to catch fire when we liberated Iraq but it didn't happen.
Perhaps I saw the future right but was wrong on the timing.  Whatever.  We
are all going to be in for one Helluva ride.   We elected a president who
offered us CHANGE.  How little did we know...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi was a manipulator.

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote:

 Like a man dying of thirst in the desert, is given a canteen of water, slakes 
his thirst and then complains about the color of the canteen!  

Or, like a man who gives you a boat with one oar. Or, how about a man who gives 
you a three legged dog? :-)  At any rate, you get my point, give credit where 
credit is due, but see it for what it is. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Glenn Beck soundbites

[Vaj]

I have to admit the "Uncle Sam as child molester" image could make  
some great political cartoons.


Glenn Beck soundbites

• Beck likens himself to Israeli Nazi hunters: "To the day I die, I am
going to be a progressive hunter." 20 January 2010

• Social justice is a "perversion of the Gospel, not what Jesus was
saying". 11 March 2010

• "Charles Darwin is the father of the Holocaust." 20 August 2010

• "We have been sold a lie … that the poor in America are suffering."
November 20 2010

• Beck mocks President Obama's daughter Malia and questions her "level
of education". He later apologises. 28 May 2010

• Uncle Sam is a "child molester" who is "raping our wallets … and
destroying our families". 16 April 2010

• Beck said the prime goal of his coverage of the midterm elections
was to "make George Soros cry" which was hard to do as Soros "saw
people into gas chambers". 2 November 2010

• "Women are psychos". 20 January 2010

• Putting the "common good" first is the kind of thing that "leads to
death camps". 28 May 2010

• "God will wash this nation with blood if he has to." 25 August 2010

(As selected by the Jewish Funds For Justice)