[FairfieldLife] Re: Connecting with Guru Dev through seeing an image of him

Spiritual techniques are to learn the art of centering and relaxation, once you learn that you can let go of it - if not TM then something else, they are just tools. Why this fascination of TM, authenticity of spiritual techniques and the like? Ammachi would say a boat is used to cross the river, o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Makes total sense to me that when the messenger of truth is so > often Snopes, what do you do? You kill the messenger of course! Exactly the same way that the "TM supporters" try to demonize anyone who criticizes TM and MMY, eh? :-) Isn't

[FairfieldLife] Connecting with Guru Dev through seeing an image of him

"..how do we invoke and to whom? And if nobody is to beinvoked, then what is the use?" "...we tune our eyesour vision, perception, cognition to that, because that was held up by a mind that was enlightened, naturally our mind gets in tune and because that mind was and is and will forever be Omnipre

[FairfieldLife] Ignorance or dishonesty, or both? (was Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "eco)

Yes I'm reading this as well as the other post with links toward the question I asked you. I thank you. I prefer to reply later in the week to both if that isn't inconvenient with you on the outside chance that we might actually be able to hold a civil conversation. You are low on posts and I am

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lennon's letter

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > Interesting, but your mantra won't Rapture you! > > http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9vw66W4YwaQ/TV7Nj_ovGsI/Aho/GAksmbkfg5o/s1600/2nd-coming-vs-rapture.jpg > Why would anyone wish to be 'raptured' ... When Heaven has decended to the Eart

[FairfieldLife] Ignorance or dishonesty, or both? (was Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "eco)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > az, if you're reading this, it should serve as > confirmation all by itself. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Apparently Judy missed the part in her instruction which says > > "we always start with half

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi in Iowa

*Like*, this is one of the only weekend non-retreat tour stops and I will most likely visit Iowa after 4 years, would love to meet anyone else from this list who makes it there. Looks like the program is at the same Coralville Marriott as the last one I attended in '07. (http://ammaiowa.org/

[FairfieldLife] Roswell aliens confirmed?

http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Lifestyle/Roswell-aliens-confirmed.aspx?cp-documentid=28335258

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally

Joe, Here's your multiple choice answer spectrum. a. Gotta get out of the changing people business. b. Gotta get out of the expecting people to change business. c. Gotta get out of the people business. d. Gotta get out of any BUSYness. e. Gotta get out. f. Go. g. All of the above. But what is t

[FairfieldLife] Lennon's letter

Interesting, but your mantra won't Rapture you! http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9vw66W4YwaQ/TV7Nj_ovGsI/Aho/GAksmbkfg5o/s1600/2nd-coming-vs-rapture.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Snopes on the Rapture

http://www.snopes.com/religion/pilot.asp (don't pair Christian pilots and co-pilots since if they're Raptured, nobody will be left to fly the plane).

[FairfieldLife] John Lennon's letter to Christians endorsing Maharishi & TM

John Lennon's famous letter to Christians on the subject of Maharishi & Transcendental Meditation written late1967-early 1968 including scanned copies of the handwritten letter http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/JohnLennon2Christians.html http://tinyurl.com/3jwkjto Interesting as well "I (MMY) wro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally

Snopes on religion: http://www.snopes.com/religion/religion.asp --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > Of course! Right wingers (often) take as fact whatever happens to land in > their e-mail in-box. Not saying it never happens with those on the left, but > in my personal exper

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally

Of course! Right wingers (often) take as fact whatever happens to land in their e-mail in-box. Not saying it never happens with those on the left, but in my personal experience, it happens to a far lesser degree. I get literally dozens of these viral e-mail flames weekly from right wing friends

[FairfieldLife] William Howard Taft speaking at Manassas Court House

http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/4/37232.jpg Subject: William Howard Taft http://cariart.tripod.com/williamhtaft.jpg

[FairfieldLife] premier opening of Egyptian Theater

L.A., 1922 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/49733.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Radhaswami Guru

a curious claim by this Guru, at http://www.radhaswamidinod.org "But to approach the Supreme Being, there is absolutely no other means except the practice of Surat Shabd Yoga under the guidance of a Sant Sat Guru or a sincere lover of the Supreme Being who has received instructions from, and is

[FairfieldLife] Ignorance or dishonesty, or both? (was Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "eco)

az, if you're reading this, it should serve as confirmation all by itself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Apparently Judy missed the part in her instruction which says > "we always start with half a minute of silence". > > No wonder she's so messed up! She starts the mantra

[FairfieldLife] A Radhaswami Guru

In the Radhaswami Tradition, just discovered him 5 min ago, haven't had time to investigate. If like the rest, wants your devotion and money. http://lordofthesouls.blogspot.com/p/philosophy.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ammachi in Iowa

> > Iowa > Public Programs: > Sat June 25 - Sun June 26 > > Devi Bhava: Sun June 26 (Evening) > Ammachi's American tour: http://www.amma.org/tours/amma-tours/namerica-jun11.html

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Apr 09 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 16 00:00:00 2011 261 messages as of (UTC) Wed Apr 13 00:06:35 2011 47 authfriend 32 Vaj 26 turquoiseb 16 Yifu 16 WillyTex 14 Ravi Yogi 10 wayback71 10 seventhray1 10 P

[FairfieldLife] Ammachi in Iowa

Iowa Public Programs: Sat June 25 - Sun June 26 Devi Bhava: Sun June 26 (Evening)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally

On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Rick Archer wrote: Right wing bullshit Isn't that redundant? :) Sal

RE: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally

Right wing bullshit: http://www.snopes.com/info/aboutus.asp Description: C:\Users\Rick\AppData\Roaming\PixelMetrics\CaptureWiz\LastCaptures\2011-04-12_18-30-24-506.png <>

[FairfieldLife] Public Policy Polling: Bad news for Congressional Republicans

Bad news for Congressional Republicans April 12, 2011 PPP's newest national poll finds that after a little more than 3 months in charge House Republicans have fallen so far out of favor with the American public that it's entirely possible Democrats could take control of the House back nex

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Fw: SNOPES EXPOSED---Finally

--- Begin Message --- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS COMPLETELY TRUE, BUT IT SURE DOES RAISE SOME INTERESTING QUESTIONS.  THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE CONTROVERSY IS NOT OVER.  MAYBE TRUMP CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS MESS. TRUMP IS GETTING TO LOOK BETTER EACH DAY!     > > >Just in the even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's last will & testimony

On Apr 12, 2011, at 5:49 PM, WillyTex wrote: > Nothing here about any 'murder' of GD by MMY! Did you actually read it? It was sealed before the murder. Stop making weird shut up Willy, you're starting to sound like Judy now!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's last will & testimony

Well, I guess this puts to rest the Jyotirmath succession controversy once and for all, as well as Vaj and Professor Swayer's opinions about the legal successor in the line of the Jyotirmath Shankaracharya - what I have been saying for close to ten years now. Case seems to be closed, thank

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

So, you're fascinated by Judy's posts! turquoiseb: > The fascinating thing is that none of this strikes her > as in the least obsessive, and as a multi-year, ongoing, > compulsive attempt to "get" someone who just coincident- > ally happens to be a TM critic. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

On Apr 12, 2011, at 4:06 PM, turquoiseb wrote: > The fascinating thing is that none of this strikes her > as in the least obsessive, and as a multi-year, ongoing, > compulsive attempt to "get" someone who just coincident- > ally happens to be a TM critic. Apparently Judy missed the part in her

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

Is it possible to donate posts for this charitable cause?? I don't mind donating 20 posts every week to Judy. Keep getting 'em Judy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > Multi-year obsession for truth always beats multi-year obsession for falsity, > deception and slander

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

Multi-year obsession for truth always beats multi-year obsession for falsity, deception and slander. You go girl!!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > The fascinating thing is that none of this strikes her > as in the least obsessive, and as a multi-year, ongoing, > com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

The fascinating thing is that none of this strikes her as in the least obsessive, and as a multi-year, ongoing, compulsive attempt to "get" someone who just coincident- ally happens to be a TM critic. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > One of the fascinating things about Vaj's jihad against > > TM is that whenever he's discussed the actual instructions > > for practicing the technique, he's gotten them wildly

[FairfieldLife] Should NATO take stronger actions agains Libya?

I hope Obama doesn't get dragged into a land war with the Libyans. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/12/world/africa/13libya.html?_r=1&hp

[FairfieldLife] Is this Guy a Buddhist?

Watch him talk about quantum physics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1P3MJP8bGE&feature=feedrec_grec_index

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are conflicts in the Middle East and disasters in Japan preventable?

Dr. Hagelin invites all ''wise, well-wishers of humanity'' to investigate thoroughly the scientific principles and research which underlie and support these technologies: (!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!](!)[!]\ (!)[!](!)[!] (!)[!]

[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev's last will & testimony

From: Paul Mason [mailto:premanandp...@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 1:56 PM To: undisclosed recipients: Subject: Guru Dev's last will & testimony Some years ago I got a hold of a copy of Guru Dev's ashram newsletter from just after his death. It contains an article about the wi

[FairfieldLife] National Invincibility Tour - Spring 2011

From: Office of the President National Invincibility Tour April / May 2011 Dr. Bevan Morris Prime Minister of the Global Country of World Peace President of Maharishi University of Management Working with Maharishi for 42 years As previously announced, Dr. Bevan Morris will be touring the Un

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

Vaj's question: why not go right to the gems, avoiding the crap. That's the whole crux of the matter, isn't it? In order to discern, one must actually do the Coke/Pepsi taste test, not prematurely judge one or the other on the basis of supposed "authenticity". --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > PT: The advanced techniques are practiced for the > same length of time as the basic one, 20 minutes twice > a day. > >From reading your posts I know that you have received one advanced technique as well as the sidhis. I am curiou

[FairfieldLife] Are conflicts in the Middle East and disasters in Japan preventable?

What do conflicts in the Middle East and natural disasters in Japan have in common? Very little on the surface of things—one is man-made, the other nature-made. But a closer analysis of the mechanics of how nature functions at the deepest levels from the perspective of the ancient Vedic s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ya just gotta check out the mama eagle and the 3 chicks

Aren't they cute! And almost vegetarian! Get rid of that fish diet and they can incarnate as Turkeys!< I was looking for duck ponds earlier this year to fly my falcon and somebody told me about a fish farm and said the owner was desperate to get rid of ducks and other water birds that were eatin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > > > right...not the TMO, I believe he hates TM because it works. > > His family is a group of elitists with preconceived but > > ill-founded notions of authenticity who (like

[FairfieldLife] Garlic Field is too HOT

I just realized that garlic is too hot for my body constitution. But I didn't realize that a garlic field can carry HOT loot along with it as well. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_skorea_garlic_money

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:31 AM, turquoiseb wrote: First, no one has the ability TO define/invent/cognize anything new, and second, the hierarchy of the organization would not allow it because it wouldn't "come from the master," Maharishi himself. All innovation in the organization died with him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:31 AM, turquoiseb wrote: It seems to me that to continue to hold the TMO as the only "trusted source" for techniques of meditation and self discovery, one has to believe that Maharishi defined/ invented/cognized them ALL before he died, and somehow left instructions for t

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

Its a valid question - why not try something else? I remember transcending when I was a kid - also was an altar boy, and soon after I stumbled upon a portal to another world when in high school - I called it the "cosmic void", but couldn't sustain the experience. Tried going to Buddhist temple

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > Do you know about the advanced techniques? They act like > > fertilizers for transcending. > > And we all know how important it is to shovel fertilizer > when it comes to spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

Has to be. That's the beautiful and divine function of boredom - it urges us to move on for the moment. "Nothing to see here citizens, move along..." - any beat cop from a 40's movie. Boredom reminds us to look someplace else. Or we can spend lifetimes opposing it or running from it, keeping it

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

Great rap. That's how I probably would have answered, "back in the day." These days...uh...not so much. :-) Snide comments interleaved below. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Apr 12, 2011, at 5:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > Here are a few quick questions to either th

Re: [FairfieldLife] A movement defined by the inability to move

On Apr 12, 2011, at 5:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Here are a few quick questions to either the TM True Believers on this forum or to those who don't "identify with" the modern TMO but still see it as the "custodian of the purity of the teaching" in the sense that it's the only place you'd ever con

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > I think we're talking about a movement that has condemned > itself to being a kind of museum of past glories, a walk- > ing cadaver of spirituality. YMMV. If it does, this is your > opportunity to say so. Or not. Your call. I just though

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

Hi Ravi, yeah it was fun to set the scene and play all the parts mentally to get the voices right. I have been enjoying your stuff too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > :-), Thanks for the laughs - all of them are bald?..LOL.. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > I guess this is fine if you're either content with what > you've learned so far and don't think there is any place > in your life for learning more (or more than the TM courses > you have not paid for yet). But I'm curious as to how t

[FairfieldLife] Re: France bans the burqa...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > We were watching Eliot Spitzer's show on CNN last night, > when all of the sudden up pops Eliot on the screen, Eliot Spitzer popped up on Eliot Spitzer's show? How odd! > flanked by a women in a burqa (from the SW US) and a > moderate Muslim wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > > > right...not the TMO, I believe he hates TM because it works. > > His family is a group of elitists with preconceived but > > ill-founded notions of authenticity who (like th

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Here are a few quick questions to either the TM True > Believers on this forum or to those who don't "identify > with" the modern TMO but still see it as the "custodian > of the purity of the teaching" in the sense that it's > the onl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > If there's a "theme" that I try to challenge in > the TMO and in the modern-day hangers-on to a > dying movement, it's what's going on right now > on this forum -- "Pile on the TM critic." > > Having claimed only a few posts ago that s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

On Apr 12, 2011, at 8:23 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Vaj, you fault just about everything regarding TMO from the git go. But, another perspective might be that there was a generation of people that had a "seeker mentality". In many cases this seeking was misdirected. Someone came along and sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

Vaj, you fault just about everything regarding TMO from the git go. But, another perspective might be that there was a generation of people that had a "seeker mentality". In many cases this seeking was misdirected. Someone came along and said, "hey consider this technique". Many took him up on h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: France bans the burqa...

On Apr 12, 2011, at 6:03 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Here's a cute article about resistance to the new law from, of all people, beekeepers. They're prevented from wearing veils in the workplace, too. http://newsthump.com/2011/04/11/french-beekeepers-to-protest- against-no-veils-in-workplace-law

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:31 PM, wayback71 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: Right! Looks to me that Vaj hates TM, for one reason or another. (re: somebody else's comment that he doesn't hate it). Why?, possibly, out of jealousy. I doubt that. I still

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

On Apr 12, 2011, at 12:17 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Well, I will say that he seems really dialed in to this authenticity thing. And what "authenticity thing" is that? That he came from a legit line of the Shank of the North? Guru Dev instructed him in yoga and devised TM in the Bat Cave?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

On Apr 11, 2011, at 9:11 PM, Yifu wrote: Right! Looks to me that Vaj hates TM, for one reason or another. (re: somebody else's comment that he doesn't hate it). Whoa dude, huge non sequitur. The post was about Maharishi Ayurveda and disreputable "yogis" telling the dying they could save t

[FairfieldLife] Re: France bans the burqa...

Here's a cute article about resistance to the new law from, of all people, beekeepers. They're prevented from wearing veils in the workplace, too. http://newsthump.com/2011/04/11/french-beekeepers-to-protest-against-no-\ veils-in-workplace-law/

[FairfieldLife] France bans the burqa...

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

Following up on these thoughts, just in case anyone but myself has anything to say about them ( no harm, no foul if no one does :-), it occurs to me that the stance of the TMO is 1) "We have all the answers you could possibly need," and 2) "We will enforce this by excommunicating you if you go anyw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > If you want to know the doc, contact me off list. > > He keeps low on the radar since. Indians need to be > extra careful if they're still in India or have family > there. >From The Idiots Guide To Being A Confidante: "Your secret's safe

[FairfieldLife] Re: A movement defined by the inability to move

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Here are a few quick questions to either the TM True > Believers on this forum or to those who don't "identify > with" the modern TMO but still see it as the "custodian > of the purity of the teaching" in the sense that it's > the o

[FairfieldLife] A movement defined by the inability to move

Here are a few quick questions to either the TM True Believers on this forum or to those who don't "identify with" the modern TMO but still see it as the "custodian of the purity of the teaching" in the sense that it's the only place you'd ever consider going to learn tech- niques of meditation

[FairfieldLife] Re: Analyzing the TMO using the "economic psychology" model

I have to say I really admire the way you have constantly, even amongst much opposition with such a beautiful, loving and dedicated way, continually endeavored yourself to the task of removing the stubborn decadent age-old boundaries between truth and falsity, sincerity and deception. The magic you