[FairfieldLife] Re: Hope Without Magical Thinking

2011-06-23 Thread merudanda
how revealing..WOW you got me serving you...u... You do know now what was in the drinks ??Do you? Does it not, would it not endanger U.S. and FFL security, should not an injunction to stop publication of the documents and pic sought? Isn't that not too early to reveal?FBI and CIA beware

[FairfieldLife] Re: question for MZ

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman at_man_and_brahman@... wrote: Hi. I'm a long-term lurker and very occasional poster on FFL. I had a close high school friend who went to MIU a few years before I did. He, as a freshman, attended your meetings and got royally

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread turquoiseb
MZ, here's a free clue to explain to you why I got no more than two sentences into the self-serving drivel below: I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR 'ENLIGHTENMENT.' It (meaning the stories you tell others and yourself about your experiences and what you think they mean or meant) obviously are very important

[FairfieldLife] YF and exploding balls?

2011-06-23 Thread cardemaister
Just did the whole siddhis program first time for quite a while. Made me rather horny: to exaggerate a bit, my balls feel like they are about to explode. Makes me unpleasantly restless. Does that effect perchance weaken in time if I decide to continue doing the program rather regularly? :o

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread Ravi Yogi
Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few lines each on your enlightenment, the reasons why you thought it was mystical deceit and your current de-enlightenment process. Please use generic

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread Ravi Yogi
Don't speak for everyone Barry, I'm interested in his enlightenment. Here's a clue to explain to you why I make fun of you because I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS ON ENLIGHTENMENT, so STFU Barry. I know you feel threatened when anyone uses the E word, but again if someone is talking about the E

[FairfieldLife] Re: question for MZ

2011-06-23 Thread at_man_and_brahman
Would you care to share the specifics of the questions (assuming you remember them)? Also, given that you appear to be perhaps the only person in history to have gained unity consciousness and then later denounced it as some sort of put-on or hype or illusion, do you believe there's a real

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Ravi Yogi
Curtis - thanks for your kind comments. You certainly grew on me as well - however I wish you were more to the "L" on my scale. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" curtisdeltablues@... wrote: FWIW Masked Zebra Ravi seems to be a decent guy underneath his persona. But he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Curtis - thanks for your kind comments. You certainly grew on me as well - however I wish you were more to the L on my scale. Stupid Yahoo stripped my image, here it is merudanda style --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Ravi Yogi
Curtis - thanks for your kind comments. You certainly grew on me as well - however I wish you were more to the L on my scale. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: Curtis - thanks for your

[FairfieldLife] Eyeglass movies

2011-06-23 Thread Vaj
Looking Glasses A pair of camera-equipped shades makes video-sharing as easy as walking down the street CORINNE IOZZIO Rather than let life pass you by, save it. With the camera-equipped Eyez glasses, users can share point-of-view video without the clunky cameras and nettlesome file transfers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation:Topping The Bestseller List Since 1975 by Philip Gold

2011-06-23 Thread sparaig
http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2011-06-19/hardcover-advice/list.html Number 7 for a week in the advice and misc hardcover category. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: A few facts to balance the hyperbole: * As far as I can tell, the book

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hope Without Magical Thinking

2011-06-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: [...] That, after all, was the message of the first talk I ever heard Maharishi give. It's just too bad that he either was lying about what he said, or didn't believe it thoroughly enough to follow through on it in his

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendence: Topping The Bestseller List Since 1975 by Philip Gold

2011-06-23 Thread sparaig
http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2011-06-19/hardcover-advice/list.html As I said, number 7 in that list for the week of June 5, 2011. Lawson --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote: ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendence: Topping The Bestseller List Since 1975 by Philip Gold

2011-06-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: #7 on the NYT Best Seller list, week of June 19th, in the Hardcover and Misc. category: TRANSCENDENCE, by Norman E. Rosenthal. (Jeremy P.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hope Without Magical Thinking

2011-06-23 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Today for some reason I found myself thinking back to the first time I saw Maharishi, in 1967. At that talk, at the Greek Theater in Los Angeles, he

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, If my enlightenment was not the real deal, then in all that I say about enlightenment, I will be revealing this discrepancy between my

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CApitol of the Age of Enlightenment burns down

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually it turns out that the place was insured for1.5 million. The newer *Peace Palaces* were virtually unharmed. Now they have the bucks to finish them, but will they? I bet the money goes elsewhere, like India.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
maskedsebra below all seems very unspecific and conveniently vague and without substance, can you be more detailed and unsubtle about all of it? Werner Erhard? That was intense, even violent. I stood up to ask him a question when he was giving a lecture to an inside group (I had been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Ravi, That made me laugh out loud for real real, not the fakey LOL BS! Very creative. Back atcha man, read on... I think I am as close to the L side as I am comfortable with but sincerely appreciate you putting me past the halfway point as a generous gesture, undeserved I'm sure. But

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: MZ, here's a free clue to explain to you why I got no more than two sentences into the self-serving drivel below: I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR 'ENLIGHTENMENT.' It (meaning the stories you tell others and yourself about your

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: RESPONSE: Seems like reasonable request, Ravi. Let me work on it, OK? Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: MZ- I think you have some interesting things to say. But the way you write is so condensed that it obscures your ideas. It could be that I simply struggle to read it and get fatigued. That's part of what I was getting

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, If my enlightenment was not the real deal, then in all that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Vaj
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: I get the feeling you fell for the placebo and are still trying to convince everyone else it's still pure Pfizer. But then that's always been the dilemma of the awakened TM teacher or die-hard TM lover: can they stop projecting some scripts

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: MZ- I think you have some interesting things to say. But the way you write is so condensed that it obscures your ideas. It could be that I simply

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey MZ, You have a real contribution of perspective to contribute here and right now you are getting a bit of the circling pack action. I believe it is because you are here with a well thought out perspective that challenges many of ours, as well as the difficulty of transcending (oh shit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brigham Young with Elders

2011-06-23 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Yifu: ...and no, Richard, John does not hate Mormons. You are probably correct - maybe I misread the guy! That is my point. There are none - (spiritual 'results') - with you creeps. You're not much different than Mormons who say, I KNOW that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God, and that he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: I get the feeling you fell for the placebo and are still trying to convince everyone else it's still pure Pfizer. But then that's always been the dilemma of the awakened

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: MZ, here's a free clue to explain to you why I got no more than two sentences into the self-serving drivel below: I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Effort ... isn't that what TM-Sidhi practice finally amounts to in reality? Vaj: Prayatna is the actual word Patanjai uses. Patanjali was talking about the sitting posture (poise) in this sutra, not obtaining any siddhis. Right poise must be firm and without strain. [2:46]

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
LOVE IT! THANKS. GOT MY ATTENTION. You prove my pet theory: when a person's first person perspective comes—unwittingly, adventitiously—through their so-called attempts at a third person perspective (e.g. what you are telling me here)—and what you get is strong and healthy—then time to: BECOME

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Vaj
On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: I think everything to do with Werner extremely problematic, and the effect on the mind of his seminars (now called Landmark Education) mystically inhibiting and even dissociative. A major psychiatric hospital I know of began suggesting in

[FairfieldLife] No Ground

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few lines each on your enlightenment, the reasons why you thought it was mystical deceit and your current de-enlightenment process. Please use

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Ground

2011-06-23 Thread Vaj
On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:07 PM, blastedactresses wrote: Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few lines each on your enlightenment, the reasons why you thought it was mystical deceit

Re: [FairfieldLife] DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/22/2011 03:44 PM, Rick Archer wrote: TUK THAM: Living on in the body after having died: http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/dead-buddhist-man-in-death-meditation-part-1- 8-47-video-4246846 http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/dead-buddhist-man-in-death-meditation-part-1-8 -47-video-4246846 This

[FairfieldLife] Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
A major psychiatric hospital I know of began suggesting in their employee evaluations that their road to advancement meant attending Landmark training (still using at that time the 'no you can't use the bathroom' trick). They followed that road for a year or so - until one of the clinicians had a

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-23 Thread maskedzebra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few lines each on your enlightenment, the reasons why you thought it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hope Without Magical Thinking

2011-06-23 Thread Denise Evans
Oh my goodness - that's it exactly.   --- On Wed, 6/22/11, whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com wrote: From: whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hope Without Magical Thinking To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 11:07 AM  

[FairfieldLife] Spin vs Facts.

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
Hey blastedactresses: Before I lose you altogether, I'd better take a crack at the Werner probe of yours (previous post). Would you be willing to suspend your judgment (as expressed here) if I come through on that topic—providing more detail about my personal encounter with WE? Also, I aim to

[FairfieldLife] Spin vs Facts.

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
Hey blastedactresses: Before I lose you altogether, I'd better take a crack at the Werner probe of yours (previous post). Would you be willing to suspend your judgment (as expressed here) if I come through on that topic—providing more detail about my personal encounter with WE? Also, I aim to

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: LOVE IT! THANKS. GOT MY ATTENTION. You prove my pet theory: when a person's first person perspective comes—unwittingly, adventitiously—through their so-called attempts at a third person perspective (e.g. what you are

[FairfieldLife] Re: No Ground

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
maskedzerbra I hate categorical judgments—especially when they put me in a negative light. But you are comfortable causally posting categorical judgments about other entities or other people that put them or it in a so called negative light. That is the status quo on the internet, yes?

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: I am, via your post, alerted to the contingent solipsistic tendency in me—I have never shaken this since I was a small child. But you

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for explaining that in some detail. I think we go about connecting to new posters in different and sometimes opposite ways. And I am using what your way discovers about someone as I hope you are mine. I try for rapport an common ground and you break rapport and see how they react.

Re: [FairfieldLife] No Ground

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:07 PM, blastedactresses no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Dear maskedzebra - all I see is a lot of intellectual jugglery and nothing concrete. Can you please, if it's even possible for you, describe in a few lines each on your enlightenment, the reasons why you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge NO SIGN @ EITHER DOME

2011-06-23 Thread WLeed3
NO SIGN LOCATED IN EITHER DOME TODAY 23 June 11 In a message dated 6/23/2011 12:21:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, no_re...@yahoogroups.com writes: A major psychiatric hospital I know of began suggesting in their employee evaluations that their road to advancement meant attending Landmark

[FairfieldLife] No Ground

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
Is it also required when one's been enlightened or announces they are enlightened to have diarrhea of the keyboard?I read very carefully and critically and am able to piece together the meaning of text badly translated from language to language to language and finally English. It's been a

[FairfieldLife] Chew a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
During at least one intensive in-residence SSRS retreat the participants were chewed out for going to the bathroom except between breaks. There were a lot of non-TMers at the intensives and a lot of the time was spent in guided meditations. The non-TMers (including the group leader) were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:20 PM, blastedactresses no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ( In spite of all the dishonest nonsense repeated on the internet , participants were never told they could not go to the bathroom, nor blocked from going to the bathroom, not once during the est training

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Just wondering what you all saw in this (if anything): Chris Argyris, after four decades of studying human nature, concludes, Put simply, people consistently act inconsistently; unaware of the contradiction

[FairfieldLife] wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
Just wondering what you all saw in this (if anything): Chris Argyris, after four decades of studying human nature, concludes, Put simply, people consistently act inconsistently; unaware of the contradiction between their espoused theory and their theory-in-use, between the way they think

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread PaliGap
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 06/22/2011 03:44 PM, Rick Archer wrote: TUK THAM: Living on in the body after having died: http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/dead-buddhist-man-in-death-meditation-part-1- 8-47-video-4246846

Re: [FairfieldLife] wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:43 PM, blastedactresses no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Just wondering what you all saw in this (if anything): Chris Argyris, after four decades of studying human nature, concludes, Put simply, people consistently act inconsistently; unaware of the contradiction

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: [...] On the more scientific side (the TMO loving so much to use science as an advertising and marketing ploy), we now have a very good idea what actual higher states of consciousness look like, esp. in terms of EEG. None

Re: [FairfieldLife] wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/23/2011 11:43 AM, blastedactresses wrote: Just wondering what you all saw in this (if anything): Chris Argyris, after four decades of studying human nature, concludes, Put simply, people consistently act inconsistently; unaware of the contradiction between their espoused theory and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread Bhairitu
On 06/23/2011 11:52 AM, PaliGap wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote: On 06/22/2011 03:44 PM, Rick Archer wrote: TUK THAM: Living on in the body after having died: http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday-news/dead-buddhist-man-in-death-meditation-part-1-

[FairfieldLife] Is there a cure for Solipsism?

2011-06-23 Thread Yifu
Possibly... (a) since (this has been more or less shown) - if John Malkovich is the One Solipsist, others cannot be. I've eliminated Jim Carrey from the field. (b) Next, transfer one's relative attention units to some person or Entity worthy of worship, so that the Entity (Guru, Yidam, a

[FairfieldLife] Apogee Jam?

2011-06-23 Thread cardemaister
Do you think this might be worth buying and trying (if it's available, that is): http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/jam.php (Recently got my iPad after waiting several weeks...)

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread danfriedman2002
If only we could see ourselves as others do. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: Just wondering what you all saw in this (if anything): Chris Argyris, after four decades of studying human nature, concludes, Put simply, people consistently act

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread blastedactresses
danfriedman2002 If only we could see ourselves as others do. (RESPONSE: The shock might turn our hair white!)

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: danfriedman2002 If only we could see ourselves as others do. (RESPONSE: The shock might turn our hair white!) The Total Perspective Vortex is allegedly the most horrible torture

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Response: I never anticipated I would be on the receiving end of a final knock-down argument like the one above. If I had known (I should have) such an extraordinary summing up of myself (negatively) were possible, don't worry, I would have STFU. But you see, Turq, I thought it

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread Yifu
Thx for posting this! The TPV has been in existence since the 13-th century - brought to Light by Nichiren, and is called a GOHONZON. http://nichirenscoffeehouse.net/Gohonzon/SGI-Nichikan_Gohonzon.jpg However, although the G. is unfathomable, inscrutable, defies description the closer on gets

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@... wrote: danfriedman2002 If only we could see ourselves as others do. (RESPONSE: The shock might turn our hair white!) It has. L.

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread sparaig
BTW, here's Susskind's latest paper: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1105.3796v2 The Multiverse Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics It's being called incomprehensible by many physics-oriented people. At the least, to truly understand it, you'll have to have a far, FAR better math background than I, so

[FairfieldLife] Re: wholelottatalking

2011-06-23 Thread danfriedman2002
Lawson, You were quicker with this insight. I was about to reply: My hair is now completely white. [and it's not just my Pitta imbalance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blastedactresses no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread emptybill
So how were the beds - Vaj? Self-inflating under high pressure? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: I think everything to do with Werner extremely problematic, and the effect on the mind of his seminars (now

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread emptybill
All the major commentaries define II.47 as the release of effort and tension once a posture is attained. Posture is the context for this sutra and includes Patanjali's discussion of meditation upon ananta (the endless) as another means to actualize the settled state of asana. Vyasa, Shankara and

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-06-23 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 18 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 25 00:00:00 2011 652 messages as of (UTC) Thu Jun 23 23:34:56 2011 50 authfriend jst...@panix.com 50 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 48 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 45 whynotnow7

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-06-23 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jun 18 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Jun 25 00:00:00 2011 652 messages as of (UTC) Thu Jun 23 23:34:56 2011 [snip] 50 Yifu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: CApitol of the Age of Enlightenment burns down

2011-06-23 Thread Mike Dixon
Yes, right next to the original building. Two Peace Palaces were being built, a men's and ladies buildings. They are just shells. Construction was stopped a couple of years ago, no siding. Expect the insurance company to balk at 1.5 million since the TMO had been successful in getting the tax

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
What are you going to do if things check out in each instance? A) Freak out, because it might show a crack in your This doesn't follow science as I know it mindset. This could nibble around the edges of a miracle sort of thing. One that defies your notions about such things. B) Come up with

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
Strange. I loved everything about it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Kind of icky. Reminds me of what my wife says sometimes, just because you can doesn't mean you should --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: TUK

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I haven't met anyone yet who wanted to stick around in the same bag of bones. Of course all of the people I've known who passed away had bodies worn out by old age, illness or injury. Well then, I guess that this issue is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hope Without Magical Thinking

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1BkpX03-M --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: thx, I was there at that time. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_NC4d7MFA2Mk/SkTMbp3i99I/BlQ/JoxhxVDrbMk/s400/Louis+Wain+Cat+Postcard+Playing+Cards.jpg --- In

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
In a little less severe terms, I think this nails it. OTOH, I have been enjoying some of the other posts. But can anybody bite into this? Jiminy Christmas. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: MZ, here's a free clue to explain to you why I got no more than

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
Are you incapable of snipping, or just plain lazy? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: Dear Rick, If my

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: What are you going to do if things check out in each instance? Be happy that my legitimate questions were answered. A) Freak out, because it might show a crack in your This doesn't follow science as I know it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:59 AM, maskedzebra wrote: I think everything to do with Werner extremely problematic, as are any practices that aren't Vaj's personal selection for spiritual advancement. That seems to be the most

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: I am, via your post, alerted to the contingent solipsistic tendency

[FairfieldLife] Eric Cantor takes his football and goes home

2011-06-23 Thread Bhairitu
Couldn't resist doing a video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEMnXsbujOk Enjoy!

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I might be tempted to have a little Let's poke at the supposedly enlightened person and see if there's really no self in there or whether there's a really BIG one waiting to lash out in defensiveness and anger fun with

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: When they cross the line from relating a subjective experience to making pronouncements about what that experience means, and calling those pronouncements truth, I might try to remind them that what they're saying may be

[FairfieldLife] No Ground Of All Being [was Re: Help a Saint - Lose]

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Thanks for explaining that in some detail. I think we go about connecting to new posters in different and sometimes opposite ways. And I am using what your way discovers about someone as I hope you are mine. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: I guess SSRS is a fascist group even though SS doesn't have a Cherman sounding name like Erhard. Tom, I just looked at my watch, and it's about time for you to become thoroughly disinchanted with your current love

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread whynotnow7
Well then, I guess that this issue is settled law, now that you have weighed in on it. You haven't met anyone who felt this way, so it must not be valid. I don't think you realize how often your comments have a condescending tone. I am not the best at expressing every angle of what I mean.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-23 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
I for one found MZ's contribution really interesting and would wish that he continue after a bit of reflection. This was a very dense exchange, and abrasive. I had heard of RC previously, but knew almost nothing about him except that he was held in high disfavour by the TMO, which does not

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: And questions are a great way to express curiosity. Sometimes people are full of it. But you know that and are skeptical about all sorts of beliefs. You are just a little caught up in minding my business as I

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEATH MEDITATION

2011-06-23 Thread seventhray1
Thanks for your reply. I admit that I am a sucker for such stories. I tend to believe them. To me they don't even seem that outlandish. Yea, I buy into the notion of higher states of consciousness. I believe we can refine our body. To me that wouldn't seem to even violate any scientific

[FairfieldLife] Krisnamurti on the Future of Computers

2011-06-23 Thread John
He appears to fear the possiblity of the computers taking over the life of humans in this world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6de8fG5eAA0feature=related