[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...

2011-07-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > "These days, claims of higher states of consciousness don't bother me > much. I find them entertaining and try not to judge. "I like to tell > people: "I think I'm tall" but as the wife says "If you're going to lie > about something, w

[FairfieldLife] Best UFO video we've ever seen?

2011-07-14 Thread cardemaister
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/ufo/8599547/UFOs-spotted-over-London.html

[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))

2011-07-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > LOL..Barry nowadays is a real pathetic caricature of his glorious > bullying past with all the begging, he seems to caught the Vaj bug who > similarly begs all newcomers for research on the evils of TM. > > Any newcomer joining this lis

[FairfieldLife] FYI: Nokia Maps for iPhone and Android, also!

2011-07-14 Thread cardemaister
Nokia Maps for iPhone and Android mobile devices: m.maps.ovi.com

[FairfieldLife] Introduction to biophotons

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
Biophotons: a weak light emitted by cells, comparable to a candle flame 12 miles away. Johan Boswinkel invented an amplifier which emits the biophotons, used to treat diseases. http://www.biontology.com/about.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > You have opened a whole can of worms here. I've watched for years > different tantra school argue over whether the beej mantras should have > use the "ng" ending or the "m" ending. They have slightly different > effects as far as "resona

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > Unlike Ravi, Jim, and perhaps Robin, I really find the whole notion of not sleeping very troubling. Bill, I have to clarify that I mostly sleep like a log now, I did mention that I didn't sleep much for a few months during my Kun

[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))

2011-07-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
LOL..Barry nowadays is a real pathetic caricature of his glorious bullying past with all the begging, he seems to caught the Vaj bug who similarly begs all newcomers for research on the evils of TM. Any newcomer joining this list must start feeling uncomfortable like they are entering downtown SF,

[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...

2011-07-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
"These days, claims of higher states of consciousness don't bother me much. I find them entertaining and try not to judge. "I like to tell people: "I think I'm tall" but as the wife says "If you're going to lie about something, why pick something so easy to disprove"" Bob - Despite the sarcasm I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-14 Thread Ravi Yogi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardjwilliamstexas" wrote: > > > > > In fact, Dan, two of the FFL moderators here > > use anonymous 'handles'. > > > Rick Archer: > > Not true. There are three moderators. Alex and > > I use our real names. Gullible Fool is the only > > one who uses a han

[FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
Missed Manichaeus. Also St. Augustine by a long shot; but you got Ptolemy the astrologer. How's your astrology? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_(prophet) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > To bad for you. > You missed Plotinus and the other Platonists that > foll

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
William Parkinson: > Shiva is the static consciousness that pervades all > things, while shakti represents (envisioned in > feminine form) the dynamic form of consciousness... > The answer lies in the relationship of the Sri Vidya tradition and Kashmere Saivism. In the Shankaracharya traditio

[FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Origen2.jpg Origen, missed. Cut him off at the pass --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > To bad for you. > You missed Plotinus and the other Platonists that > followed him until Justinian closed the academy. > No wond

[FairfieldLife] Re: A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread emptybill
To bad for you. You missed Plotinus and the other Platonists that followed him until Justinian closed the academy. No wonder you don't believe in this stuff. …… --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > Now I understand!! Well, my own expertise run

[FairfieldLife] Happy Bastille Day You F'ing Rich!

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
I see a guillotine in your future! IOW, those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. ;-) (Inspired by Mike Malloy's rap tonight.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread emptybill
This could be a duplicate Yahoo post or maybe not. Sorry but no troth with Yahoo. Bill, Contrary to what you might read, "Shakti" does not mean "energy", as in electricity, but rather "power". Shakti (power) carries none of our modern connotations of a strictly mechanistic force but rather po

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > L., forgive me, but I went though my old posts, which had several from you > and none had any links for further research. Did I miss one of them? > Cheers > Bill Re: "The Soul is extracted and judged by weight" An email I fir

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > I was taught and still have my receipt. Goodness!! I ask as a curiosity. Is > it not possible to discuss these issues rationally and in a collegial fashion? Well, saying mantras out loud or writing them down (or deliberately s

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Yifu wrote: > > > below..."vault of the mouth". Nope - as stated or implied by others; those > > people excessively concerned about authentic pronunciation apparently don't > > have a clue about TM and probab

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:08 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > > > > > � > > > I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I > > > was taught. Those of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > [...] > > > Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There is much I > > > still have to learn about TM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 07/13/2011 09:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, sparaig wrote: > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> [...] > You probabl

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:21 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Oh wait, TM is effortless... Did MMY lie or is there something to be > > learned from the realization that attempting to remember a specific > > pronunciation from 38 years ago is often e

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
It totally was Jim. It was obvious. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > What Bob said, Bill. Welcome, but watch your back. > > > > > > O

[FairfieldLife] On Lake Travis

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
by James A. Humphrey, 2007 http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/3/23319.jpg

[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))

2011-07-14 Thread seventhray1
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@ wrote: > >a > > I guess you have to ask yourself Barry, was your purpose > > to actually "warn" Bill, or to slam the other three. > > I might just as easily turn that que

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-07-14 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 09 00:00:00 2011 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 16 00:00:00 2011 702 messages as of (UTC) Thu Jul 14 23:47:21 2011 50 whynotnow7 50 authfriend 49 turquoiseb 43 Bob Price 40 seventhray1 37 nablusoss1008 35 RoryGoff 31

Re: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Now I understand!! Well, my own expertise runs from 200 B.C.E. to 200 C.E.. My concentration and my doctoral program was in Early Christianity, Second Temple Judaism, and to a lesser degree Greco-Roman mystery cults (in particular, Mithras and Hekete). Once we get beyond 200 C.E., I fear I will

Re: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread Bob Price
Bill,   I was using AD (Anno Domini) interchangeably with CE (common or Christian era). The period I'm hoping to start a new discussion on is 31/32 C.E. (death of Jesus) to May 22, 337 C.E. (death of Constantine).   When Robin returned some excellent serves from a number of FFL posters the focus w

Re: [FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/14/2011 02:53 PM, Vaj wrote: > On Jul 14, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> On 07/14/2011 02:15 PM, Vaj wrote: >>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote: >>> You have opened a whole can of worms here. I've watched for years different tantra school argue over whether the b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
L., I looked again and there was the 'Yo William' one and another about the mission of Maharishi. I must have missed one. Maybe I deleted it by accident. Ther are none with any links!! Cheers Bill   From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: [

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
L., forgive me, but I went though my old posts, which had several from you and none had any links for further research. Did I miss one of them? Cheers Bill From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are yousti

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Richard and Emptybill: Given my rudimentary knowledge at this point I am wondering if the both of you can clarify something. I went and looked up on Wikipedia about Sri Vidya. I thought that the basic shakti doctrine was as follows: Shiva is the static consciousness that pervades all things, w

Re: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Bob did you mean 37C.E.? I have never heard of a 337C.E. date. Is that what you meant? Cheers Bill From: Bob Price To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul   1 Corinthians 13 American Standard Version (ASV)    1If

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
emptybill: > All modern Western scholars of Shankara or Advaita > firmly reject the claim that Adi-Shankara was the > author of either Ananda-Larari or Saundarya-Lahari. > Maybe so, but as TMers we are not concerned with what most Western scholars think about Shankara. It is a fact that all

Re: [FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
I agree wholeheartedly! What good is Enlightenment, if you do not have an increase in love and compassion for your fellow man? And in my own personal view, compassion for the animals also. I have a distinctly Jaina streak in me. I am nearly a vegan, and like a Jain, I look where I walk so as I d

Re: [FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > On 07/14/2011 02:15 PM, Vaj wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> You have opened a whole can of worms here. I've watched for years > >> different tantra school argue over whether the beej mantras should have > >> use the "

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
LOL thank you JP. When I first saw the list I noticed he added European versions. I thought maybe he was European and that this was simply his way of pronouncing it. But on his website he claims to be an American doctor, who in his own estimation is a 21st-century Maharishi. I find it all very f

[FairfieldLife] Indian lunch

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
Until today I hadn't eaten at an Indian restaurant in a couple years. My favorite south Indian restaurant, 7 miles away, raised its prices a couple years ago and when I went there on a Saturday for lunch the place was nearly empty. In prior times it would have been crowded for a Saturday lun

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Emptybill, you have hit on it exactly! This was another point of interest. The author of the article claims that Maharishi changed the mantras, but didn't really state why, other than to make them easier. You have framed this change within the context of making it more palatable to a Western aud

Re: [FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/14/2011 01:27 PM, Vaj wrote: > On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:28 PM, William Parkinson wrote: > >> I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I >> was taught. Those of you who were teachers, is this way correct? For >> example, hearim (as in 'hear') instead of herim (as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Thank you Nab. I am in contact with the local teacher here and did get checked when I started again. (Annie Skipper in Kirkland WA.) Bear in mind Nab that I meditate only to improve myself. I am not as serious as some have been. So for me, if I am not saying it correct, that is ok. It is working

Re: [FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/14/2011 02:15 PM, Vaj wrote: > On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > >> You have opened a whole can of worms here. I've watched for years >> different tantra school argue over whether the beej mantras should have >> use the "ng" ending or the "m" ending. > The traditional schtick I w

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread jpgillam
Bill, the information you cite differs from what I learned on my TM teacher training course. I suggest you have this conversation with your TM teacher. You've seen what a runaround you get here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > >   > I found this webpage and

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread emptybill
Bill Yours is a natural question for anyone trying to understand what a meditation mantra actually is. However you have cited only one attempt to explain how to produce the sounds of these bija mantra-s. Even if you cited many different people, without knowing how to pronounce Sanskrit this to

[FairfieldLife] A word from St. Paul

2011-07-14 Thread Bob Price
1 Corinthians 13 American Standard Version (ASV)    1If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.  2And if I have the gift of prophecy, and know all mysteries and all knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mounta

Re: [FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Bhairitu wrote: > You have opened a whole can of worms here. I've watched for years > different tantra school argue over whether the beej mantras should have > use the "ng" ending or the "m" ending. The traditional schtick I was given was that the "M" ending was wr

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > Thank you for your concern Nab. Now does anyone have anything constructive to > say? > Cheers > Bill Only glad to help :-) But if you disregard my constructive advice I can say with certaincy that you will travel further in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
I was taught and still have my receipt. Goodness!! I ask as a curiosity. Is it not possible to discuss these issues rationally and in a collegial fashion? Cheers Bill  From: Yifu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Bob, there are some colorful people involved with Eastern traditions, to be sure. In fact the person with that website thinks of himself as a 21rst Century maharishi.   It is fine with me if Nab wants to be testy. I will reply in a collegial fashion, which is what I am used to. I wish Nab only t

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: One thing William could consider is visiting a saint like Amma and ask for your "full" mantra. You could also be initiated into your yantra if you so desired. Yes, that's a brilliant advice from Vaj; since he already is confused why not get

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Thank you for your concern Nab. Now does anyone have anything constructive to say? Cheers Bill From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss10

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Yes I was taught and taught well (at least I thought so) by a thoughtful and helpful TM teacher in Vancouver B.C. I ask only as academic matter; this is different that what I was taught. Cheers Bill From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:08 PM Subject:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
I am so sorry L. As I mentioned at the beginning, I might get people confused. I think I still have what you wrote to me and I will look at those links today, when I get back home. Thanks again!! Cheers Bill From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 1:06 PM S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Yifu wrote: > below..."vault of the mouth". Nope - as stated or implied by others; those > people excessively concerned about authentic pronunciation apparently don't > have a clue about TM and probably were not initiated into it. Then they don't understand namaru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:21 PM, sparaig wrote: > Oh wait, TM is effortless... Did MMY lie or is there something to be learned > from the realization that attempting to remember a specific pronunciation > from 38 years ago is often extremely difficult? If you knew basic Sanskrit pronunciation (ve

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:08 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson > wrote: > > > > Â > > I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I > > was taught. Those of you who were teachers, is this way correct? For > > example, hearim

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
below..."vault of the mouth". Nope - as stated or implied by others; those people excessively concerned about authentic pronunciation apparently don't have a clue about TM and probably were not initiated into it. http://skeletonart.com/Detailed/739.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:06 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson > wrote: > [...] > > Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There is much I > > still have to learn about TM, but also about the members here. Still it > > has been heurist

Re: [FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:28 PM, William Parkinson wrote: > I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I was > taught. Those of you who were teachers, is this way correct? For example, > hearim (as in 'hear') instead of herim (as in 'her'). Is this list even > valid? T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/13/2011 09:14 PM, sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, sparaig wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >>> [...] You probably know that most brain wave research would say that deep sleep would

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > >   > I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I was > taught. Those of you who were teachers, is this way correct? For example, > hearim (as in 'hear') instead of herim (as in 'her'). Is this list

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > > > Nab, I do know how to pronounce my mantra, at least as it was told to me. > > But what is here is different. Excuse my curiosity > > Cheers > > Bill 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Bob Price
Bill, Many thanks for your posts. Have you studied much about the early Christian church (probably a silly question), say the crucifixion to AD 337? We had an excellent series of exchanges started before Robin retired and I would enjoy a few more. I wouldn't worry too much about the Nabster,

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
Troll:http://www.janbrett.com/mobile_troll.htm (Ha!...Gotcha...) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > > >   > > I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I > > was taugh

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > > Nab, I do know how to pronounce my mantra, at least as it was told to me. But > what is here is different. Excuse my curiosity > Cheers > Bill  > PS- My training was, after all, 11 years ago!! Stop this nonsense. Either

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > >   > I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I was > taught. Those of you who were teachers, is this way correct? For example, > hearim (as in 'hear') instead of herim (as in 'her'). Is this lis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: [...] > Thank you also Turq (Lawson) for your warm welcome too. There is much I still > have to learn about TM, but also about the members here.  Still it has been > heuristically useful for me to say the least!   Um

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
William Parkinson: > I found this webpage and it has a different way to > pronounce the mantra I was taught... > "Though disputed by somemost in the Shankaracharya tradition practice samaya sri vidya and accept that he wrote several tantric texts including Saundaryalahari, etc, etc." -

Re: [FairfieldLife] first "approved" US Marian apparition site

2011-07-14 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Yifu wrote: > > http://www.catholictide.com/09/wisconsin-chapel-approved-as-first-us-marian-apparition-site/ > > > > Damn that Evelyn Wood speed reading course I took. I clicked on the link excited that U.S. Marines where appearing from the afterlife only to find

Re: [FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
You have opened a whole can of worms here. I've watched for years different tantra school argue over whether the beej mantras should have use the "ng" ending or the "m" ending. They have slightly different effects as far as "resonance patterns" go. And Indians given their nature will argue

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Nab, I do know how to pronounce my mantra, at least as it was told to me. But what is here is different. Excuse my curiosity Cheers Bill  PS- My training was, after all, 11 years ago!! From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:50 PM Subject: [Fair

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
William Parkinson: > This is all new to me... > The Sri Vidya, because it consists of 'indestructible seed' syllables (bijas) rather than words, transcends such mundane considerations as semantic meaning. Accordingly, a bija-only mantra is not merely esoteric but inherently superior. "Beca

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, William Parkinson wrote: > >   > I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I was > taught. Those of you who were teachers, is this way correct? For example, > hearim (as in 'hear') instead of herim (as in 'her'). Is this lis

[FairfieldLife] How to pronounce the mantras

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
  I found this webpage and it has a different way to pronounce the mantra I was taught. Those of you who were teachers, is this way correct? For example, hearim (as in 'hear') instead of herim (as in 'her'). Is this list even valid? Thx for any information anyone might have! Cheers Bill    Trans

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
> > Derealization during pain isn't the same as > > witnessing during the waking state... > > Vaj: > I was referring to "witnessing" during sleep. > In TM, 'witnessing' in waking state refers to the ability of yogis to 'witness' the Being - the Transcendental Absolute. "yoga citta vritti niro

[FairfieldLife] Re: States of Consciousness

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
Vaj: > Not a very honest presentation... > According to Wallace, Samatha is "calm abiding", a type of meditation designed to enhance sustained voluntary attention; a subset of the broader family of samadhi or meditation practices. Reginald Ray at the Shambhala Mountain Cente says Samatha is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
Richard I love what you just wrote. This is all new to me. I am now rushing to Goggle!! I will say something soon. Thx!! Cheers Bill From: richardjwilliamstexas To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > The TM mantras appear repeatedly in numerous different tantras. > > Tantric mantra dictionaries contain all of the TM mantras (and many, > > many more), along wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread William Parkinson
I want to thank everyone for being so gracious with their time and helping me come to a greater understanding about the issue of sleep and its relationship to TM. Regrettably, it has engendered some posts in directions that I never intended. For that I'm truly sorry. Nevertheless, I have receive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > The TM mantras appear repeatedly in numerous different tantras. > Tantric mantra dictionaries contain all of the TM mantras (and many, > many more), along with their detailed meanings. > Gotta admit that might be true, actually! Think

[FairfieldLife] Adele Brise

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
pic of Adele Brise. http://www.irishcatholic.ie/site/files/image/December%202010/Adele%20Brise.jpg Virgin Mary supposedly appeared to her in 1859 in Wisconsin. The associated Church of Good Hope in Champion Wisconsin commemorates the only "approved" US Marian apparition site. Mentioned in CBS s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
> In fact, Dan, two of the FFL moderators here > use anonymous 'handles'. > Rick Archer: > Not true. There are three moderators. Alex and > I use our real names. Gullible Fool is the only > one who uses a handle, and he's not very active > as a moderator... > Apparently one FFL moderator has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...

2011-07-14 Thread Bob Price
Thanks Curtis,    I'm pleased that someone thinks my voice training  is showing results.   I knew Robin by reputation till he began posting on FFL. During his hay day I was as far from the TMO and Big G as I think one could get. But I still knew people in the movement, although I think they thought

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread richardjwilliamstexas
William Parkinson: > I tried to trace back my own mantra within the > Advaita-shakti tradition and found that it was > recorded in Shankara's 'Saundaryalahari.' > "According to the Shankaracharya of Sringeri, the Adi Shankara placed the Sri Chakra, symbol of Tripurasundari, with the TM mantra

[FairfieldLife] Re: first "approved" US Marian apparition site

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" wrote: > > http://www.catholictide.com/09/wisconsin-chapel-approved-as-first-us-marian-apparition-site/ Champion, Wis., Dec 9, 2010 / 05:22 am (CNA/EWTN News).- With approval from Bishop David L. Ricken of Green Bay, Wisconsin, a chapel in the town

[FairfieldLife] first "approved" US Marian apparition site

2011-07-14 Thread Yifu
http://www.catholictide.com/09/wisconsin-chapel-approved-as-first-us-marian-apparition-site/

[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle, Honey Street, Alton Barnes

2011-07-14 Thread nablusoss1008
http://tinyurl.com/6bw9ltt

[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle near Stonehenge

2011-07-14 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2011/stonehenge3/stonehenge2011c.html At Windmill Hill: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2011/windmilhill/windmilhill2011a.html And near Stanton St Bernard: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2011/StantonStBernard2/StantonStBernard2011b.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] States of Consciousness

2011-07-14 Thread Vaj
Wow, does he mischaracterize shamatha mediation. Not a very honest presentation. But sadly, not surprising. On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:17 PM, sparaig wrote: New book: http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/07/01/consciousness- states-cosic-2011/consciousness-states-cosic-2011.pdf chapter 10 is about

[FairfieldLife] Re: States of Consciousness

2011-07-14 Thread danfriedman2002
Thank you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > New book: > http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/07/01/consciousness-states-cosic-2011/consciousness-states-cosic-2011.pdf >chapter 10 is about enlightenment, TM-style by Fred Travis >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:20 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > The much-touted witnessing of advanced TMers is seen in normal > > humans all the time, but esp. in the elderl

[FairfieldLife] States of Consciousness

2011-07-14 Thread sparaig
New book: http://www.pdf-archive.com/2011/07/01/consciousness-states-cosic-2011/consciousness-states-cosic-2011.pdf chapter 10 is about enlightenment, TM-style by Fred Travis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bernanke Ready to Rescue the Economy

2011-07-14 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/14/2011 07:09 AM, obbajeeba wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 07/13/2011 07:08 PM, obbajeeba wrote: >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > On 07/13/2011 11:15 AM, J

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?)

2011-07-14 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Whatever. Despite what you say, I still have my > suspicions that enlightened_dawn11 was Jim, putting on > yet another of his false personas. As I said at the > time, however, I may be wrong about this. Here is the > post in which I m

[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for something completely different...

2011-07-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
Hey Bob, Thanks for the heads up, it looks great and I've put in on my Netflix cue right after International Co-ed Jello Wrestling Showdown Extravaganza Championship (The one with the NR rating) I love that you movie was described as Emotional and Dark, right up my alley. I neglected to than

Re: [FairfieldLife] And now for something completely different...

2011-07-14 Thread Bob Price
Curtis, Thank you for this. The wife, recently, made me watch "Rabbit Hole". http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rabbit_hole/ Without I hope-spoiling anything, I feel, it might be a topical story in relation to some of your exchanges with Robin. On one level, it's a story about unbearable loss, the

[FairfieldLife] A Prediction (was Re: Sleep and TM (are youstill there RC?))

2011-07-14 Thread whynotnow7
Since I agree with the TMO requirement to keep mantras private, I really shouldn't be doing this. However I have decided for my last post this week to reveal Barry's private mantra. He may try to deny it, but here it is: WA!!! --- In Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] And now for something completely different...

2011-07-14 Thread curtisdeltablues
An Austrian atheist has won the right to be shown on his driving-license photo wearing a pasta strainer as "religious headgear". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 What is so brilliant about this for me is that it shows the arbitrariness in societies protected beliefs. In every

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bernanke Ready to Rescue the Economy

2011-07-14 Thread obbajeeba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 07/13/2011 07:08 PM, obbajeeba wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > >> > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >>> On 07/13/2011 11:15 AM, John wrote: > In other words, h

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