[FairfieldLife] ZomGas 7 (was Zombie in my Gas tank)

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Price
MZ,



One of the great things about controlling your own show
is that you control the episode numbers. Obviously 7 has
your name on it. I'm sure many would love to hear
your responses now and we'll worry about back filling later.

This link will give you examples of Proust Confessions Questions and 
Confidences Questions. You could take 20 of these and give the answers
or alternatively take the road less travelled and just give 20 answers
and watch your fans on FFL fill in some fascinating (and maybe
not so fascinating questions). Don't make me beg, I have to do something
till we get started on that thing we can't talk about any more. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proust_Questionnaire 

[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

2011-07-28 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 John Lyons was a beautiful man when I heard him give an 
 introductory lecture in 1972. He was so luscious I was 
 ready to start TM before he said a word. Then he broke 
 the news: Two weeks waiting for using recreational drugs. 
 Really? I was disappointed but unlike the drunk I initiated, 
 I decided to have a good experience and wait the two weeks. 
 I told my boyfriend I was going to start TM and had to give 
 up pot. He said, I'll teach you to meditate. All you have 
 to do is rub your eyes and you'll see colors. Sex with him 
 was definitely better than his advice. I started TM and he 
 dumped me for another girl, a girl with kaleidoscope eyes.

Nice tale, Raunchy, and nicely told. It's almost
a mini-short story. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4-(was conflict in fiction)

2011-07-28 Thread turquoiseb
Nice stuff, Bob. I'm not sure it'll play in Peoria,
but I'd watch it. Of course, I'm a confirmed eyepatch-
wearing pirate, so you wouldn't get any bucks from my
viewing of it, but it's the thought that counts. 

I do, however, have to warn you that you might be
venturing into dangerous ground in one section:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 Suddenly Dick spins around and his face is pressed 
 against the window. We hear the sound of cuffs tighteningshut.
 
 AGENT HAIRWELL
 And are you familiar with the Patriot Act 
 you dildo? 
 
 The Brunette runs toward Dick who's hands are cuffed 
 with his face being pressed against the 
 window by Agent Hairwell. 
 
 BRUNETTE
 
 You sexist pig.

Here you have used the forbidden and horribly sexist 
word dildo. By doing so, you risk someone not only 
obsessing on it for SIX YEARS, but trying to get 
others -- who were neither around that long ago or, 
more important, care -- to obsess on it, too. Watch 
your ass. Just sayin'.  

If I were you, I'd replace the word dildo with the
more politically correct personal vibrator, or even
better, use the brand name of a popular one, like
Oscillation Overthruster, or Your Buddy Burt. 
And whatever you do, never suggest that one could 
have feelings of its own, and choose to commit suicide 
rather than perform its intended function.

I fully expect script consultant credit in the final
film. No residuals, just credit. 

:-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: RC, MUC, and RUC

2011-07-28 Thread at_man_and_brahman
Thank you, Robin. Yes, you did skip a few things I hoped you'd cover, but the 
tidal wave of thoughts contained here is nearly as rewarding.

I'll have to chew on this for a while. Lots to think about.

We may or may not have reason to chat via FFL again. It appears you've gone as 
far as you're able or willing with the challenges I've put to you, and no one 
else seems much to care anymore. If you'd like to pick up discussion 
one-on-one, now or in the future, Rick knows my direct email. I'd enjoy getting 
to know you better and becoming a friend. We are probably constitutionally 
incapable of accepting each other's frames of reference as factual, but I 
believe there is tremendous value in mere understanding.

My name is Paul, by the way.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote:

 Dear at_man_and_brahman,
 


snippity-do-dah


 
 Your first question elicited the most important post so far—back in June. 
 This may be just as important (important means = *for me*, not necessarily of 
 course, for others).
 
 No one can know what it has meant to me to have these conversations through 
 FFL. You,  authfriend, and CDB have drawn out from me what has helped me most.
 
 Robin
 
 




[FairfieldLife] The path to Unity, by the Master--- through Benjamin Creme, 11 June 2011

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008
The path to Unity
by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme, 11 June 2011

http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-07.htm



[FairfieldLife] New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 07/28/2011

2011-07-28 Thread Rick Archer
 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:
 We don't need a 3rd party.  We need to primary Obama with a Democrat who will 
 stand up and say Obama doesn't represent the party of FDR, he represents the 
 blood suckers on Wall Street. Bernie Sanders agrees we should primary Obama 
 hoping it would push Obama further to the left. It's not going to happen. 
 Obama has a lock on plenty of money for a campaign that would (if 2008 is any 
 lesson) trash the reputation of the challenger, have the DNC cheat for him 
 and play the race card for good measure. Obama is on the right, has always 
 been on the right and will stay on the right regardless of a primary.

 The debt ceiling debate is just kabuki to make the rubes believe that the 
 only choice, Flimflam Man has to save the county from defaulting on its debt 
 is sacrifice Social Security and Medicare when in truth that is exactly what 
 Obama was hired to do.

 If Obama were a Democrat, he would have stopped all the Republican crazy talk 
 about the debt ceiling by simply saying he would invoke the 14th Amendment. 
 Bill Clinton said he would invoke the constitutional option to raise the debt 
 ceiling without hesitation, and force the courts to stop me in order to 
 prevent a default. Now, there's a president with some balls.

 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/07/19/bill-clinton-says-he-would-use-the-14th-amendment/

 For the past few weeks, Obama has shown no interest in involving Democrats in 
 negotiating with Boehner, Cantor or McConnell because he couldn't have 
 gotten away with unilaterally offering up programs to help the poor and 
 women. Obama has continually lied about the strength and solvency of the 
 social safety net and now he has accomplished what George W. Bush and every 
 Republican before him could only dream of doing, destroy FDR's New Deal.


What is going on here?   I've been complaining about a lack of follow
through, a lack of leadership.Yes, we're going to close GITMO,
yes, gays in the military and so on yet when in office it's OK, at
least two full scale wars are great, and we'll involve ourselves in
civil wars as we do in Libya.  It's Pax Americana all over again.   We
can't cut defense spending because when Obama became president he was
born again and saw how important being involved in everybody else's
life is good.   Then there's the gay thing.   Another president who
cared would have used his powers as Commander in Chief.  Another
president would have said yes, I've got a duty to uphold the way, but
I'm going to shirk my duty and tell Justice to lay off the DOM law.
I've wondered where the leadership's been.  Why not stand up against
the Repubs.  FDR did, LBJ did, Bill Clinton acted presidential.  I'm
starting to agree with you, RD.  It's looking like we have a president
with an agenda here and he hides his agenda in not being a leader.
Don't be a leader, be ineffectual when you need to make it look like
you're being forced into watered down health reform, cutting down on
social security, medicare and medicaid.  Don't question why we need to
spend so much money elsewhere, like bombing Libya.  It doesn't matter
that 1/5th of men aren't working, that there's so much unemployment
and under employment because that keeps wages down.  What matters is
that companies are profiting big time without having to hire.  What's
good for Wall Street is good for America.   I've wondered why, since
election day, I've cringed every time Obama gives a speech.  I can't
stand to hear the man because the bullshit detector keeps going off.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: alternative theory regarding MZ

2011-07-28 Thread Mark Landau
Thank you, Ravi, for your kind words.  And I will take you at your word about 
the condescension.  But, if I remember correctly, that email already had in it 
as I've already explained and how could someone with my history possibly not 
thoroughly understand the Satguru principle?

On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:

 the self-same principle that Ravi was (condescendingly, I must say, (it 
 takes one to know one)) trying to explain to me way back when.
 
 
 Mark, I have been (intentionally) condescending to others (low vibe writer 
 types) but not when I was responding to you, sorry if it appeared otherwise. 
 Your heart-centeredness  became evident to me as you posted more. A beautiful 
 post BTW.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
 
  Yes, Jim (how long does it take, here, to put names to email addresses?), 
  I, too, find this true and beautiful, with one possible exception. The 
  heart, the true heart (IME, E  U), has no need whatsoever for story 
  gratification. The true heart, the lion heart, is a far better organ of 
  perception/knower than the mind. It's the heart, or hearts, of the inner 
  frozen children that need constant soothing, the heart, if you will, of 
  the ego complex, of our woundedness and our pain, or I guess one could say, 
  and perhaps more simply and truly, and, in so doing dissolve this 
  exception, the wounded parts of our heart. It's the stories that are the 
  defense mechanisms that help us in our long, misguided efforts to keep our 
  pain away. Of course, this may not apply to MZ, or any other particular 
  individual, but, I believe, it applies to most of us.
  
  What may more aptly apply to MZ (for all the profound things that have 
  occurred between us, and, yes, they truly are profound, just how much so I 
  have yet to see, I really do not yet know him well, as I have not had the 
  time to follow his suggestion and read all that he has written here, nor do 
  I think I will need to) is that he is using his intellect to sincerely 
  advance his spiritual growth through the towering edifice created by the 
  west's paramount religious institution (at least in terms of it's effect on 
  the west) and, yes, some of the world's purest souls and highest thinkers 
  (perhaps I will have to look into Aquinas), combined with the highly 
  developed qualities of his intuition (for me, there's something I call 
  inner knowing that is distinct from and goes beyond intuition). How many 
  have spent lifetimes lost in this structure (of course, he would know 
  they are not lost but are getting found, and, perhaps, the only ones 
  getting found)? We agree, I think, that the mind, the intellect, no matter 
  how developed and pure must always fall short of true knowing. The truth of 
  things is unfathomable and better known by the heart. To know it one must 
  lay the mind and everything else aside and become it. To do this, one must 
  put oneself through whatever it takes to strip everything else away and 
  become the truly, truly, truly empty vessel.
  
  And, to this: the universe within us will never accept any story as the the 
  ultimate truth, I would add that the Satguru, God and the universe, both 
  the universe within and without (which you all may, of course, have already 
  agreed are one, though I still find it useful to distinguish them) and, 
  sometimes, the good guru, will totally knock the shit out of us, if we 
  force it/him/her to, the self-same principle that Ravi was 
  (condescendingly, I must say, (it takes one to know one)) trying to explain 
  to me way back when.
  
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Program in the Domes

2011-07-28 Thread Declan Fitzmaurice


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mahavid3h no_reply@... wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote:
 
What Swamis were sent around to bless
you?
   
  mahavid3h:
   He was again in Seelisberg in 1983 when
   Shankaracharya Shantanand came...
  
  You may heave been thinking of another Swami.
 
  Apparently Swami Shantanand never left India.
  According to Professor Dana Sawer, Swami
  Shantanand Saraswati was the Shankaracharya
  of Jyotir Math from 1953-1980.

 As I said, this as around the turn of the year 1982/83, he head aready
stepped down, was most definitely in Seelisberg at the turn of the year.
He had done an Africa tour visiting Indian communities there, leading
Bhajan sessions, I saw a video of it. We went all to the Zurich airport,
Maharishi the Shankaracharya, Swami M and a few others. This Swami I am
refering to, was also in Noida in 1986. He was on the stage with
Maharishi, and there was Vishnudevanand as well. He had the 50th
anniversary of his Ashram.

Hi. New to the group.

According to Vasudevavanda (in his 1983 biography of Shantananda
Saraswati) Shantananda accompanied the Maharishi on two tours as
follows:

1982: Departed India December (?), for Hong Kong, then China (Shanghai,
Nanking, Beijing) then Soviet Union (Moscow), then Switzerland
(Seelisberg).  Arrived back in India around 13 January 1983.

1983: Departed India ~7 February, for Kenya (Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu,
Nakuru, and Eldoret), then Zambia (Lusaka and Livingstone). Arrived back
in India around 3 April 1983.

mahavid3h - would you have any further details of that video you
mentioned of the visit to Africa? I would love to see it.



  From what I've read, Swami Shantanand stepped
  down as the Shankaracharya on 29th February,
  1980, in favour of Dandi Swami Vishnudevand,
  who died in 1990. Vishnudevanad was succeeded
  by Dandi Swami Vasudevanand Saraswati.
 
  None of these Swamis, to my knowledge, ever visited
  anyone outside India, but correct me if I am mistaken
  about this.
 
  Read more:
 
  'Conspiracy Theories'
  http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/shantanand3.htm
  http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/shantanand3.htm
 
  In line with this will, the first respondent, who was
  installed on June 12, 1953 as head of the math, came
  into possession of the math properties and applied for
  a certificate of succession in the district court at
  Allahabad. This was eventually granted on Dec. 12,
  1956 - that is, three years later...
 
  The Rivalry for Jyotir Math:
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html
 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg20687.html\
\
  
 





[FairfieldLife] AA - Apostates Anonymous

2011-07-28 Thread turquoiseb
Being somewhat of a voyeur of the spiritual scene (I like to watch),
another of the endless trends I have noticed is what happens when a
strong member of a spiritual organization decides to take some 'time
off' to figure things out a little. In far too many organizations, 'time
off' is considered Apostasy. To be less than full time 24/7 on the bus
is considered Off The Bus.

A seeker decides to take some 'time off' and overnight learns exactly
how good his or her good friends really are. They either continue
speaking to them, or they don't.

In reality, of course, it's far more complex than that. Many old friends
do stay in touch. For some of them -- bless their hearts -- it's as if
there has been zero change in the relationship. With others, however,
there is always a perceptible subtitle track to every conversation that
says, Annie Hall-like, Pood sod. He's SO fallen from the highest path.
I must humor him until he comes to his senses.

Isn't this issue of how a spiritual path treats apostates to that path
really the measure of where the rubber meets the road?

How is the possibility of switching boats in mid-river regarded by
that organization? Is it considered a natural part of human evolution,
as a seeker gravitates from one teacher to another? Or is it regarded a
falling, nigh unto the Fall From Eden?

Are apostates themselves, the people who have decided to take some 'time
off,' for their own personal reasons, regarded as being On The Program,
or Off The Program? Are their reasons considered valid, or
unstressing? Is the definition of The Program 24/7 commitment to it?

Is it assumed, back in the org, that apostates have gone over to the
Dark Side, and now that they're not on the bus 24/7, they are working
24/7 for Darth Insidious? Is the spiritual view of the world in that org
really so much like the 60's cry of Love it or leave it!, followed by
the immediate assumption that anyone who didn't love anything about
America should just hightail it out of Dodge? And then, having
hightailed it, be considered a Wanted Man trying to escape his just
desserts thereafter?

Or is there room in the org for tolerance and compassion, such as
hearing a good friend with whom you have happily walked the path for
many years say, out of the blue, Dude...you see that crossroads up
ahead? I'm gonna turn off there. I can't really explain why...it's just
that something in me really wants to see what attracts me so much in
that direction, and replying, Cool. Stay in touch, man, and let me
know how it's going for you. Happy walking. I'm there for you any time
you want to chat, or go out to a cafe for a Westmalle, and sit in our
shared perception of silence. I remain on your speed-dial list.


And now for something completely different...back to the Subject line of
this rap. As usual in these cafe raps, I thought of the title first,
with no preplanned idea of what the content would be, and then just
started writing. However, in this case I find my self still tripping on
the title itself, and what an AA meeting might be like. Mea culpa. I
must indulge:

NEWB: Hi. My name is Bevan and I'm an Apostate.

GROUP: Hi, Bevan.

NEWB: This is my first time speaking in front of the group. I've been
mainly lurking for some time now, and I figured it was time to tell my
story. 

GROUP: We've all been there, Bevan. We were working on our first One
Week Apostate Chip ourselves.

NEWB: Thank you. You can't imagine how relieved that makes me feel.

GROUP: We can, dude. We really can.

NEWB: It's not as if I'm 'anti' the group I am an apostate from. I was
with that group for many, many years, and have primarily positive
feelings about it, and the time I spent there. I just wanted to take a
little 'time off' and ponder a few of the less-positive feelings.

GROUP: Been there, dude. SO got the T-shirt.

NEWB: Thank you for understanding. Well, my story is like this. Once I
was a trim, fairly attractive, well-educated guy who had charisma of his
own, and did not have to depend for it on my proximity to another
person's aura...


The thing is, this imagined AA meeting is not out of the realm of
imagination. What would happen if Bevan actually DID decide to take some
'time off?' How would he be treated by the TM community if he did? On
the other hand, how would he be treated by the TM Apostate community if
he did? It's BEVAN, after all.

My bet is that the One Week Sober Chip would go to the group that was
most capable of compassion.





[FairfieldLife] Congratulations. You have realized enlightenment. Now leave.

2011-07-28 Thread turquoiseb
Mind-segueing from my previous cafe rap, I find my self realizing that
an even better measure of where the rubber meets the road in a spiritual
organization might be how it treats those who have realized its goal,
and dare to say so.

I submit that this is an interesting topic, Robin and others who have
dared to say so being among us.

How were they treated by the organization that had promised
enlightenment to its followers (not to mention...uh...financial
supporters) for many decades? Was their attainment of the goal
celebrated and their testimony added to the WhyYouShouldLearnTM.com Web
page? Or were they instantly marginalized and/or ostracized?

It's an interesting question, isn't it?

Those of you who have dared to say so, either on this forum or within
the cloistered halls of the TM movement, do you care to comment? How
were you treated?

Those of you who never mentioned your personal realization within those
same cloistered halls, but only on forums such as this one, why did you
make that choice? What did you expect would be the response from within
the cloistered halls to your proclamation, that prevented you from
making it?

Honestly curious, and I will do my best to avoid any samskaras that
tempt me to poke fun where it might be misinterpreted in response. I
really don't know, because although I have experienced the occasional
period of time spent in enlightened (or, at the very least, not
ordinary) states of consciousness, I was never tempted to go public
with them, and thus never had to risk the potential wrath of the public.

Saying all of this, I apologize in advance to those to whom I have given
offense in the past by challenging *their* claims of having realized the
Big E. I may not have believed your claims at the time, and may in fact
not believe them now, but I *do* respect you having gone public with
them. As does Rick, or he wouldn't be doing his BATGAP series.

I guess my point in this cafe rap -- if I have one, other than just to
rap -- is What was that decision to 'go public' LIKE for you? Did you
feel some reticence in doing so? If so, WHY did you feel that
reticence? It's an interesting question, n'est-ce pas?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj


On Jul 27, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Mark Landau wrote:


 And, of course, that's another thing we loved so much about
 being with M, how much and how warmly he and we all laughed
 together.

In the early years. I left when laughter started
to be actually frowned upon.


laughter stopped in M's presence?  When was that?



He became more irritable and grumpy as time went on. One of the  
landmark moments I recall is when he got an interview with a  
journalist, who arrived to find he wouldn't actually be with the  
Maharishi, but he appeared on a TV screen. The reporter asked one  
wrong question and M. dug into the journalist with great anger and  
venom.


Of course people who were close to him had been seeing his outbursts  
for years, but that's the landmark public demonstration of his  
imbalances that I recall. By that time he was sequestered like a  
Hindu Howard Hughes in his Vedic mansion in Holland, and only met  
others, like this poor reporter, via closed circuit TV. By that time,  
in the brief video snippets I'd see, you could see the signs of  
dementia and the accompanying anger, along with type of eyes seen in  
long-term diabetics. It seemed like he was partially blind. Special  
camera set ups were arranged to make it look like he was sitting  
cross-legged, but he was actually lying down in bed.


Perfect health, alas, was another fantasy, even for the Great Oz.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj


On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:10 AM, Vaj wrote:

He became more irritable and grumpy as time went on. One of the  
landmark moments I recall is when he got an interview with a  
journalist, who arrived to find he wouldn't actually be with the  
Maharishi, but he appeared on a TV screen. The reporter asked one  
wrong question and M. dug into the journalist with great anger  
and venom.



http://guruphiliac.blogspot.com/2008/02/more-dirt-in-sea-of-tm- 
whitewashing.html


Saturday, February 16, 2008
More Dirt In The Sea Of TM™ Whitewashing

File under: Gurubusting, Satscams and The Siddhi of PR

A little more truth has surfaced in the ocean of inveterate  
whitewashing that's been occurring in the international press over  
the last week; an article by the last news writer to interview the  
Maharishi when he was alive. Get ready for the Austin Powers-level  
wackiness of Yoga's Dr. Evil, the late, yet not so great, Maharhishi  
Mahesh Yogi:


For the historic interview I was ushered into the so-called  
brahmastan, a sort of giant pagoda-style wooden palace.


I was flanked by two sternfaced, light-suited ministers, who  
introduced me, to the untold thousands of disciples watching this  
bizarre charade via the live global video-link by which the Maharishi  
communicated his edicts, as a distinguished international  
journalist - which was certainly a first for me.


Then, just as I was expecting him to make his entrance, a giant  
screen flickered to life and I was greeted not by a real live guru  
but by a sort of hologram with a cotton-wool beard and a shiny, teak- 
brown pate.


Only then did I realise that the Maharishi would be addressing me  
only via closed-circuit TV from his chamber, presumably somewhere  
upstairs.


His Holiness never meets anyone because his doctor is concerned that  
he might catch germs, Roth whispered.


He hasn't been outside for years.

In truth, it was more a monologue than an interview.

The Maharishi spouted incomprehensible mumbo jumbo for several  
minutes-then launched into a diatribe against Britain - a terrible  
country which believes in divide and rule and was responsible for  
much of the misery besetting the world.


This, he said, was why he had decided to excommunicate this  
country, meaning that his disciples were banned from teaching TM here  
(a state of affairs which, I regret to report, he later reversed).


My one small victory was that I managed to ask him - ever so politely  
- about The Beatles.


Given all the bad blood, did he regret his involvement with the band  
who made him a household name?


Suddenly, all that serenity evaporated and the mystic came over all  
mortal.


Forget about it! he spluttered furiously.

If at all, (The) Beatles became substantial by my contact.

I did not become great by association of The Beatles! Beatles make  
Maharishi great? Pah! It is a waste of thought.


Arrogant, full of pride, deluded. This was your leader, TM™.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Where are O's former girlfriends??? - Scary!! or a good laugh - joke

2011-07-28 Thread Joe
Why is it that these racist ignorant conservatives believe anything that 
happens to fall into their e-mail in-boxes?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WLeed3@... wrote: 
 
  From: eb7243@...
 To: WLeed3@...
 Sent: 7/25/2011 1:39:09 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time
 Subj: Fwd: Where are Oapos;s former  girlfriends??? - Scary!!
 
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 
 From:  Lois  Kaufman _otherpaw@..._ (mailto:otherpaw@...) 
 
 Date:  July  24, 2011 4:15:56 PM EDT
 
 To: Lois Kaufman _otherpaw@..._ (mailto:otherpaw@...) 
 
 Subject:  Where are O's former  girlfriends??? - Scary!!
 
 Reply-To:  _otherpaw@..._ (mailto:otherpaw@...) 
  
 WHERE ARE THE  GIRLFRIENDS?
 
 I hadn't thought about this -  but where are O's past girlfriends - surely 
 he had at  least one? No past girl friends popping up anywhere?  Strange - 
 strange to the point of being downright  weird!
 
 OK, this is just  plain old common sense, no political agendas for either  
 side. Just common knowledge for citizens of a country,  especially American 
 citizens, who know every little tidbit  about every other president (and 
 their wives) that even  know that Andrew Jackson's wife smoked a corn cob 
 pipe 
 and  was accused of adultery, or that Lincoln never went to  school or 
 Kennedy wore a back brace or Truman played the  piano.
 
 We are Americans! Our Media vets these  things out! We are known for our 
 humanitarian interests  and caring for our 'fellow man.' We care, but none of 
 us  know one single humanizing fact about the history of our  own president. 
 
 Honestly, and this is a  personal thing ... but it's bugged me for years 
 that no  one who ever dated him ever showed up. Taken his charisma,  which 
 caused the women to be drawn to him so obviously  during his campaign, looks 
 like some lady would not have  missed the opportunity 
 
 We all know  about JFK's magnetism, McCain was no monk, Palin's  courtship 
 and even her athletic prowess were probed.  Biden's aneurisms are no secret. 
  Look at Cheney and  Clinton-we all know about their heart problems. How 
 could  I have left out Wild Bill before or during the White  House? 
 
 Nope... not one lady has stepped  up and said, He was s shy, or What 
 a great  dancer! 
 Now look at the rest of what we know...  no classmates, not even the 
 recorder for the Columbia  class notes ever heard of him.
 
 Who was the  best man at his wedding? Start there. Check for groomsmen.  
 Then get the footage of the graduation  ceremony. 
 
 Has anyone talked to the  professors? Isn't it odd that no one is bragging 
 that they  knew him or taught him or lived with  him.
 
 When did he meet Michele and how? Are  there photos? Every president 
 provides the public with all  their photos, etc. for their library. What has 
 he  
 released? Nada - other than what was in this so-called  biography! And 
 experts who study writing styles, etc.  claim it was not O's own words or 
 typical 
 of his speech  patterns, etc.
 
 Does this make any of you  wonder?
 
 Ever wonder why no one ever came  forward from Obama's past, saying they 
 knew him, attended  school with him, was his friend, etc. ? 
 Not one  person has ever come forward from his past.
 This should  really be a cause for great concern. Did you see the movie  
 titled, The Manchurian Candidate?
 
 Let's face  it. As insignificant as we all are... someone whom we went  to 
 school with remembers our name or face...someone  remembers we were the 
 clown or the dork or the brain or  the quiet one or the bully or something 
 about 
  us.
 
 George Stephanopoulos, ABC News said the  same thing during the 2008 
 campaign. 
 Even George  questions why no one has acknowledged that the president  was 
 in their classroom or ate in the same cafeteria or  made impromptu speeches 
 on campus.  
 Stephanopoulos was a classmate of Obama at  Columbia-class of 1984.
 He says he never had a single  class with him.
 Since he is such a great orator, why  doesn't anyone in Obama's college 
 class remember him?  
 And, why won't he allow Columbia to release his  records?
 Do you like millions of others, simply assume  all this is explainable - 
 even though no one  can?
 
 NOBODY REMEMBERS OBAMA AT  COLUMBIA
 
 Looking for evidence of Obama's  past, Fox News contacted  400 Columbia 
 University students from the period when  Obama claims to have been there, 
 but 
 not  one remembers him. For example,Wayne  Allyn Root was (like Obama) a 
 political science major at  Columbia , who graduated in 1983.  In 2008, Root 
 says  of Obama, I don't know a single person at Columbia that  knew him, and 
 they all know  me. I don't have a single classmate who ever  knew Barack 
 Obama at Columbia ... EVER!
 
 Nobody  recalls him.
 
 Root adds that he was, Class of  '83 political science, pre-law and says, 
 You don't get  more exact or closer than that. Never met him in my 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Mark Landau m...@sky5.com wrote:



 Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with M and Rama?  I have
 one friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's away.  But she didn't spend
 nearly as much time with M as with R.  And, of course, two others who saw
 him fly and disappear.  Of course we know how he spiraled out of here.  And,
 of course, that's another thing we loved so much about being with M, how
 much and how warmly he and we all laughed together.


 I saw James Whitmore in his one man show *Give 'em Hell*, Harry on
Broadway.   Whitmore had the most darshan I've ever experienced.  And I have
seen and been close to Maharishi a couple times when he was traveling around
the US during the Merv wave.


Re: [FairfieldLife] The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj


On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:44 AM, Tom Pall wrote:


On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Mark Landau m...@sky5.com wrote:



Is there anyone here who spent long and equal time with M and  
Rama?  I have one friend who felt that Rama's darshan blew M's  
away.  But she didn't spend nearly as much time with M as with R.   
And, of course, two others who saw him fly and disappear.  Of  
course we know how he spiraled out of here.  And, of course, that's  
another thing we loved so much about being with M, how much and how  
warmly he and we all laughed together.



I saw James Whitmore in his one man show Give 'em Hell, Harry on  
Broadway.   Whitmore had the most darshan I've ever experienced.   
And I have seen and been close to Maharishi a couple times when he  
was traveling around the US during the Merv wave.



A close examination of Mahesh across time and from people who saw his  
on-stage persona and his off-stage self, shows that the image of the  
blissy giggling guru was just that: an image, a caricature, a stage  
illusion; most never knew the Real Reesh, the Grinch.


One can, in 20/20 hind vision see where the World Teacher Seminar of  
RWC subconsciously received it's idea of stage, setting/context,  
actors, stagehands and audience. Step right up to the microphone, the  
audience awaits and all the world's a stage!

[FairfieldLife] Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread wgm4u
Patanjali meant that you should practice ALL eight limbs of Yoga, not just the 
last one! Even MMY knew this and the proof of this is in his Bhagavad Gita 
appendix on Yoga where he states, I quote, A close scrutiny of Patanjali's 
exposition of Yoga reveals that the actual process of attaining the state of 
Yoga belongs not only to dhyana, or meditation, but also to all the other 
limbs of his eightfold Yoga. Each limb presents the principle underlying the 
practices that bring about the state of Yoga in the sphere of life pertaining 
to that limb. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Bhagavad Gita (Appendix on Yoga).

With the continuous practice of all these limbs, or means, simultaneously, the 
state of Yoga grows simultaneously in all the eight spheres of life, eventually 
to become permanent. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Bhagavad Gita (Appendix on Yoga).

Samadhi is not only the end goal of Yoga but one of the eight means to Yoga as 
well, as he states, kshanika (momentary) Samadhi ..becomes nitya (perpetual) 
Samadhi.  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Bhagavad Gita (Appendix on Yoga).

Have you noticed the conspicuous absence of Patanjali's 6th limb or Dharana 
(concentration), why is that? I don't think Patanjali taught TM folks, that's 
why, but that is another subject. TM is Maharishi's Yoga-lite for modernity.



[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

2011-07-28 Thread martyboi
When I was on staff at Cobb (1980), we had a lot of CP's (course 
participants)who had great truly experiences - others not so much. 

Sometimes we would have group meetings where individuals would share their 
experiences.

On one occasion a CP proudly proclaimed they could see stars through the 
ceiling while laying down on the bed after program. Unfortunately celestial 
perception was not to be: a staff member had glued glow-in-the-dark stars to 
the ceiling as a decoration when they lived in that room. The staff member 
fessed up.. and we all had a good chuckle.

On another occasion, a women was fascinated by the hum of creation that she 
heard during program and while she slept in her room. This, of course, was the 
cabin next to an old buzzing transformer hanging on a power pole. She seemed a 
little disappointed when source of the buzz was explained.





[FairfieldLife] Re: What are the funniest stories from your days in the TMO?

2011-07-28 Thread tedadams108


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote:
During one initiation, after puja, the initiate started
to really cough, likely from inhaling incense or camphor smoke.
The remedy? Taking the water offering container which still was 
1/2 full and giving it to the initiate to drink.(hoping it did not
taste too much like brasso.) It did the trick and instruction commenced.

 When I was on staff at Cobb (1980), we had a lot of CP's (course 
 participants)who had great truly experiences - others not so much. 
 
 Sometimes we would have group meetings where individuals would share their 
 experiences.
 
 On one occasion a CP proudly proclaimed they could see stars through the 
 ceiling while laying down on the bed after program. Unfortunately celestial 
 perception was not to be: a staff member had glued glow-in-the-dark stars to 
 the ceiling as a decoration when they lived in that room. The staff member 
 fessed up.. and we all had a good chuckle.
 
 On another occasion, a women was fascinated by the hum of creation that she 
 heard during program and while she slept in her room. This, of course, was 
 the cabin next to an old buzzing transformer hanging on a power pole. She 
 seemed a little disappointed when source of the buzz was explained.





[FairfieldLife] New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hold In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-28 Thread emptybill
New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hold In Global Warming Alarmism
By JAMES TAYLOR

Jul. 27 2011



NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the
Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into
space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study
in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing
http://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/pdf . The study indicates far
less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer
models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases
in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have
claimed.




Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the
University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the
Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua
satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite
contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.



The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost
to space during and after warming than the climate models show,
Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release
http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2011/07/26/new-paper-on-the-misdi\
agnosis-of-surface-temperature-feedbacks-from-variations-in-earth%E2%80%\
99s-radiant-energy-balance-by-spencer-and-braswell-2011/ . There
is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is
especially big over the oceans.



In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist
computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the
atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations
computer models predicted.



The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter
the global warming debate.

Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general
agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human
emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is not much). However,
the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether
carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing
large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist
computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause
substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of
which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have
long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much
atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models
have predicted.



The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and
NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not
increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The
Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA's ERBS
satellite showing far more longwave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped
into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had
predicted
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/30/lindzen-on-negative-climate-feedb\
ack/ . Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for
25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and
indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have
predicted.



In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that
carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a
certain amount of heat in the earth's atmosphere and preventing it
from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far
less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the
alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into
space than the alarmist computer models predict.



When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed
scientific journal, show a huge discrepancy between alarmist
climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and
our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they
do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global
warming alarmism truly are.




James M. Taylor is senior fellow for environment policy at The Heartland
Institute http://heartland.org/  and managing editor of Environment 
Climate News
http://www.heartland.org/environmentandclimate-news.org/index.html .



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 
 On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:12 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

Not so much in his presence. It was still permitted to
  laugh at his joke and plays on words. But it began to
  be frowned upon at TM centers, and at National, where
  I worked for the last year or so of my TM period. 



And it continues here at FFL where we contiunally laugh at this self-important 
clown.

As you probably know Mark, there are stong suggestions to support that this 
fellow was thrown out of the TMO, head first, all access to courses immediately 
closed.

Untill this day he holds agression towards the TMO.  At least 80% of his posts 
here is in some way a trying to make a Maharishi-put-down. 

But he succeeds as a clown. I continually laugh at his vain attacts on 
Maharishi and his supporters on this forum. He seems to be flabbagasted by the 
fact that one person on this forum, that got Eternal Freedom from the blessings 
of Maharishi, Jim, refused to be bullied by Barry and stayed here, posting 
frequent.

You will see by analysing the posts here Mark, that Jim was the only person to 
give concrete advice regarding finding a new job for you. 

This fellow IS Love. In his short life Guru Dev blessed him for all times to 
come. Because he was ready. 

Do all you can to become ready ! Do have a checking !



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

Step right up to the microphone, the  
 audience awaits and all the world's a stage!

It is interesting to note that you were never in the same room of Maharishi, 
small or big.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Mark Landau:
 And, of course, that's another thing we loved 
 so much about being with M, how much and how 
 warmly he and we all laughed together...
 
Do you think it's strange that Turq left out
how much fun and how much laughter there was
around MMY? Go figure.
 
turquoiseb:
  IMO, the proper soundtrack of the movie 
  or soap opera that is the pathway to 
  enlightenment is laughter...



Re: [FairfieldLife] New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hold In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj
What's a gaping hold? Maybe that's just how they talk over at the  
Heartland Institute. You can almost imagine the spokesperson coming  
out to make the announcement and having several teeth missing.


It sounds like something one of Sarah Palin's speechwriters might  
come up with!


On Jul 28, 2011, at 10:34 AM, emptybill wrote:


New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hold In Global Warming Alarmism




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


Vajradhatu:
 A close examination of Mahesh across time and 
 from people who saw his on-stage persona and 
 his off-stage self, shows that the image of 
 the blissy giggling guru was just that: an 
 image, a caricature...
 
You mean compared to your other guru, Trungpa,
who reminded me of a drunk Lobsang Rampa, dressed 
in a suit and tie.

I'll never forget the time Trungpa got shit-faced
drunk at a lecture seminar up in Boulder and then
proceeded to light up a Marlboro Light on stage, 
and flicked the ashes onto the top of Ram Das's 
bald head!

Not sure if Ram Das thought it was funny, but I
sure did! 

Can you share some other interesting stories of 
the drunk Trungpa - like the time he got naked 
and insisted everyone at the meditation camp take 
off all their clothes?

LoL!!!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Where are O's former girlfriends??? - Scary!! or a good laugh - joke

2011-07-28 Thread richardwillytexwilliams
Joe:
 Why is it that these racist ignorant conservatives believe
 anything that happens to fall into their e-mail in-boxes?

So, you want to play the race card, Joe.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardwillytexwilliams willytex@... 
wrote:
 

You mean compared to your other guru, Trungpa,
 who reminded me of a drunk Lobsang Rampa, dressed 
 in a suit and tie.
 
 I'll never forget the time Trungpa got shit-faced
 drunk at a lecture seminar up in Boulder and then
 proceeded to light up a Marlboro Light on stage, 
 and flicked the ashes onto the top of Ram Das's 
 bald head!
 
 LoL!!!

HaHa, that video must be available ! Vaj's guru dead drunk, hehe !



[FairfieldLife] Re: RC, MUC, and RUC

2011-07-28 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


Mark Landau:
 How many people were in the Robin Carlsen Cult?

Three or four?
 
The moderator's brother, the TMO Raja, was probably
in the 'Robin' cult - may still be in it for all I 
know. LoL!

And, apparently Rick Stanley was in the cult as 
well. Sally Sunshine was probably in the cult at 
the Taste of Utopia held in Fairfield. 

And, I think Kirk Bernhardt was in it too and 
maybe Curtis and the two Barry's, but not Lawson. 

Go figure.

  The experience of psychedelic drugs made me 
  aware of the need to unify myself with the 
  cosmos...



[FairfieldLife] Koans

2011-07-28 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 As you probably know Mark, there are stong suggestions 
 to support that this fellow was thrown out of the TMO, 
 head first, all access to courses immediately closed.
 
 Untill this day he holds agression towards the TMO. 
 At least 80% of his posts here is in some way a 
 trying to make a Maharishi-put-down. ...

Ah so, Grasshopper. A mighty series of koans have
been presented.

First, will any of the self-appointed monitors of
falsehood, and persecutors of lying, bother to ask
Nabby to *produce* these supposed stong sugges-
tions? For example, have they ever been made on
this forum by anyone else?

Second, can Nabby document his claim that I have
spent 80% of my posts here trying to make a 
Maharishi putdown? What is the sound of no one
asking him to?

Have any of the TM supporters ever questioned 
his repeated claims that I and others are on the 
CIA payroll, and thus given a regular salary to 
spread disinformation here? And if you have infor-
mation that this is true, have you seen my latest 
check? It is frightfully late.

And if a strong, multi-decade practitioner of the 
most effective technique of self realization on 
the planet chose to *make up* stuff like this, in 
the supposed interest of defending TM and MMY,
what would that willingness to lie say about both? 
What would it say about those who knew he was 
doing it, but failed to speak up? 

Finally what, Simon and Carbunkle's answer to 
this last koan notwithstanding, is the sound of 
silence? Should it, as some on this forum have 
suggested, be considered implied consent to the 
accuracy of Nabby's claims, or of the integrity
of others who make shit up in the name of 
defending TM and Maharishi? What does *that* 
say about both?

I ask because I have noticed a trend on this forum
that when one of the diehard TM supporters makes an
unsupported claim or spins outright lies, we tend 
to hear nothing from the very people quickest to 
pile on to TM critics they believe have done the 
same thing. Zip. Nada. Bupkus. What's up with 
that, eh?

Yet another koan. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: More for

2011-07-28 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


emptybill: 
 So do you think the Nasty-s will clarify it enough?
 
Watch out, you might push their buttons and they might 
get real mad at you for having an agenda! LoL!

As some have noticed, I have a low tolerance threshold 
when it comes to idiots who show up on Internet forums 
I frequent and bring a hidden agenda with them. I 
suspect everybody does, but it is more obvious in my 
case because I am often merciless about insulting these 
idiots and ripping them a new asshole verbally. Here's 
why.

It saves time.

So my theory is that I just lay into them hard -- insult 
them, make fun of them, do everything I possibly can to 
push their buttons. And what happens? Because they have 
an agenda, they always react angrily, and in that anger 
stop trying to *hide* their agenda. They start saying 
things and revealing things that otherwise might have 
taken weeks for everybody to figure out.

It's a neat technique. I highly recommend it.  It saves 
time...

Subject: Agendananda 
Author: Uncle Tantra
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: February 16, 2003



[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@... wrote:

 Have you noticed the conspicuous absence of Patanjali's 6th limb or Dharana 
 (concentration), why is that? I don't think Patanjali taught TM folks, that's 
 why, but that is another subject. TM is Maharishi's Yoga-lite for modernity.


Maharishi's project is designed for eternity. Your small and foolish postings 
are rediculous. 

Maharishi redesigned the consciousness of this Planet for all eternity. The Age 
of Enlightenment is here and now.

Jai Maharishi
Jai Guru Dev



RE: [FairfieldLife] New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hold In Global Warming Alarmism

2011-07-28 Thread Rick Archer
Yes, he's an evangelical Christian who also doubts Darwin's theory of
evolution. Real scientific guy.

 

See
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2008/05/22/202659/should-you-believe-anything-
john-christy-or-roy-spencer-say/ 

http://www.science20.com/chatter_box/global_warming_skeptic_clouds_issues



[FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread Rick Archer
No audio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWsofD6Ics 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  Have you noticed the conspicuous absence of Patanjali's 6th limb or Dharana 
  (concentration), why is that? I don't think Patanjali taught TM folks, 
  that's why, but that is another subject. TM is Maharishi's Yoga-lite for 
  modernity.
 
 
 Maharishi's project is designed for eternity. Your small and foolish postings 
 are rediculous. 
 
 Maharishi redesigned the consciousness of this Planet for all eternity. The 
 Age of Enlightenment is here and now.
 
 Jai Maharishi
 Jai Guru Dev

Well, you didn't really address the substance of the post, but that's OK, you 
may not be able to deal with. It shows what MMY was UP to; a little cut here, a 
little cut there, and vea, you've got yourself Yoga-lite for modernity, 
it's really not so bad, it's helped thousands, it's just not YOGA! per se...

PS. We don't even know if MMY was enlightened.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread obbajeeba
Cool!  Sic!  Nice!  Awesome!
The fact of a video of a band with no sound cracks me up!   : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 No audio:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWsofD6Ics





Re: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/28/2011 10:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 No audio:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWsofD6Ics



You're certainly recognizable in the film.  Too bad sound 8mm was so 
expensive back then.  I should check with my Seattle TV contacts to see 
if the news films of my groups are still around.  One of the guys who 
used to hang out with the band would up being in charge of the news film 
division at the one major station.  Those old news clips were 16mm with 
sound.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread Denise Evans
This looks like the 60's.  Is the the 70's?  Definitely before band names took 
on names like Twisted pinkie.  Which one are you?

--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:

From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 10:36 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  
No audio:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWsofD6Ics  


 





 



  










[FairfieldLife] The Force Of Fate

2011-07-28 Thread turquoiseb
What is charisma? Are you born with it, or can it be
acquired? At what age does it appear?

These are the questions asked by a link off of Huffpost
that points to a music video made for a Spanish pop 
group called Mecano for their song La Fuerza del 
Destino. The band itself is now (possibly blessedly) 
forgotten, but the star of the music video is anything 
but -- Penelope Cruz, age 15.

http://www.celebuzz.com/2011-07-28/penelope-cruz-in-her-sultry-music-video-debut-video/




[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread obbajeeba
Nabby, you are cute. 
You forgot to add ji after, like Maharishiji.

I hope you do not think I am anti-meditating and all that stuff, because I do, 
do the stuff.  Sometimes people see it from a different perspective, like I see 
the elephant from the raised trunk.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  Have you noticed the conspicuous absence of Patanjali's 6th limb or Dharana 
  (concentration), why is that? I don't think Patanjali taught TM folks, 
  that's why, but that is another subject. TM is Maharishi's Yoga-lite for 
  modernity.
 
 
 Maharishi's project is designed for eternity. Your small and foolish postings 
 are rediculous. 
 
 Maharishi redesigned the consciousness of this Planet for all eternity. The 
 Age of Enlightenment is here and now.
 
 Jai Maharishi
 Jai Guru Dev





[FairfieldLife] The Girl who Silenced the World

2011-07-28 Thread John
She delivered a very powerful speech.  Does anyone where she is now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQmz6Rbpnu0feature=feedrec_grec_index



Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?

2011-07-28 Thread Denise Evans
I may see an Ayurvedic practitioner.  I am going to try Valerian and the tribal 
mantra...definitely am of the pitta variety.  Have resorted to 1/2 an 
Ambien...which definitely puts you out...but it's more like being knocked out, 
which is not the goal!  I have no side effects that I'm aware of in the AM 
however, so it's pretty tempting to use.  I've had some success with Melatonin 
but have to take a lot of it.

--- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:58 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  Knowing some ayurveda is useful.  Insomnia is often related to a vata 

imbalance though in summer excess pitta can cause it.  Cooling and 

calming herbs are useful.  Spearmint tea is cooling for pitta and 

somewhat calming for vata.  Comfrey is also a good tea to use.  Dr. 

Lad's vata tea consists of equal amounts of cumin, coriander and 

ginger.  But if pitta might be an issue reduce or omit the ginger.  Even 

back in the 1980s I kept a bottle of valerian root tablets next to my 

bed to allay insomnia.  Ram is a calming mantra for vata.

I've also successfully used this tribal mantra to bring on sleep:

http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2007/02/health_tip_of_t_1.html



On 07/27/2011 09:40 AM, Denise Evans wrote:

 Sleep deprivation is a chronic issue - does TM allow you to nap at will?



 --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Vajvajradh...@earthlink.net  wrote:



 From: Vajvajradh...@earthlink.net

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

 Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 5:00 AM

































   























 On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Tom Pall wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM, cardemaisterno_re...@yahoogroups.com  
 wrote:



 If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many

 benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a

 billion-dollar blockbuster.



 - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through 
 Transcendental Meditation



 Wiki:



 Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. in 
 1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick 
 Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, 
 Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with the NIMH as a 
 Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4] Rosenthal 
 eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 
 1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later 
 studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of spring fever. [5][6]

 If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the

 market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the

 market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs

 all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with a

 wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward side

 effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug.



 TM would be eventually be classified as a Schedule I drug in the US,

 with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin.



 There are dangerous drugs which are put on and kept on the market

 because although they have a profile where the dangerous side effects

 are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are

 prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation

 with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8 hours

 a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before

 going into activity after taking the drug, something good is happening

 or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug.

 LOL!

 Actually, if TM were a drug there'd be massive lawsuits as it was found out 
 the research results were fudged and/or faked to exaggerate the desire 
 outcome.

 Sound crazy? This is actually what happened quite recently when TM 
 researchers were found fudging data to make TM look better than it ever was. 
 An old trend in this very dishonest org - ever since Keith Wallace was found 
 manipulating the baseline on TM research of metabolic rate, falsely making it 
 look like TM reduced metabolic rate wildly. 

 It turns out TM reduces metabolic rate no differently than napping (which is 
 actually what the majority of TMers are doing).

 Of course some anonymous person would leak the chart found in of the FFL 
 files section which shows that TM is actually the worst of all techniques for 
 reducing BP. Even regular mantra meditation was better! WTF?

 TM TBs would start laying on the train tracks in FF again and trying to jump 
 from the three story buildings downtown. Overdoses of Amrit Kalash would send 
 physicians scrambling for insulin. Sidhas would introduce garlic into their 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread wgm4u


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Nabby, you are cute. 
 You forgot to add ji after, like Maharishiji.
 
 I hope you do not think I am anti-meditating and all that stuff, because I 
 do, do the stuff.  Sometimes people see it from a different perspective, like 
 I see the elephant from the raised trunk.

The Age of Enlightenment is here and now.


I think I would have to take issue with the comment of his that the Age of 
Enlightenment is here and now, that sounds like he is merely parroting 
Maharishi's hyperbole. 

The Kingdom of Heaven is IN the here and now but very few, if any, have 
actually realized it...Jesus did and a few others. 



[FairfieldLife] Republicans attempt to avoid becoming like Greece.

2011-07-28 Thread wgm4u
These are all the programs that the new  Republican House has proposed
cutting. Read to the  end.
* Corporation for Public  Broadcasting Subsidy. $445 million annual
savings.
* Save America 's  Treasures Program. $25 million annual savings.
* International Fund for  Ireland . $17 million annual savings.
* Legal Services  Corporation. $420 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for  the Arts. $167.5 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for  the Humanities. $167.5 million annual
savings.
* Hope VI Program.. $250  million annual savings.
* Amtrak Subsidies.  $1.565 billion annual savings.
* Eliminate duplicative  education programs. H.R. 2274 (in last
Congress), authored by Rep. McKeon,  eliminates 68 at a savings of $1.3
billion annually.
* U.S. Trade Development  Agency. $55 million annual savings.
* Woodrow Wilson Center  Subsidy. $20 million annual savings.
* Cut in half funding for  congressional printing and binding. $47
million annual savings.
* John C. Stennis Center  Subsidy. $430,000 annual savings.
* Community Development  Fund. $4.5 billion annual savings.
* Heritage Area Grants  and Statutory Aid. $24 million annual
savings.
* Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half. $7.5 billion annual  savings
* Trim Federal Vehicle  Budget by 20%. $600 million annual savings.
* Essential Air Service.  $150 million annual savings.
* Technology Innovation  Program. $70 million annual savings.
* Manufacturing Extension  Partnership (MEP) Program. $125 million
annual savings.
* Department of Energy  Grants to States for Weatherization. $530
million annual savings.
* Beach Replenishment.  $95 million annual savings.
* New Starts Transit. $2  billion annual savings.
* Exchange Programs for  Alaska , Natives Native Hawaiians, and Their
Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts  . $9 million annual
savings
* Intercity and High  Speed Rail Grants. $2.5 billion annual savings.
* Title X Family  Planning. $318 million annual savings.
* Appalachian Regional  Commission. $76 million annual savings.
* Economic Development  Administration. $293 million annual savings.
* Programs under the  National and Community Services Act. $1.15
billion annual savings.
* Applied Research at  Department of Energy. $1.27 billion annual
savings.
* FreedomCAR and Fuel  Partnership. $200 million annual savings.
* Energy Star Program.  $52 million annual savings.
* Economic Assistance to  Egypt . $250 million annually.
* U.S. Agency for  International Development. $1.39 billion annual
savings.
* General Assistance to  District of Columbia . $210 million annual
savings.
* Subsidy for Washington  Metropolitan Area Transit Authority. $150
million annual savings.
* Presidential Campaign  Fund. $775 million savings over ten years.
* No funding for federal  office space acquisition. $864 million
annual savings.
* End prohibitions on  competitive sourcing of government services.
* Repeal the Davis-Bacon  Act. More than $1 billion annually.
* IRS Direct Deposit:  Require the IRS to deposit fees for some
services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers) to
the  Treasury, instead of allowing it to remain as part of its  budget.
$1.8 billion savings over ten years.
* Require  collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees. $1
billion total 
savings.WHAT\
!
* Prohibit taxpayer  funded union activities by federal employees.
$1.2 billion savings over ten years.
* Sell excess federal  properties the government does not make use
of. $15 billion total  savings.
* Eliminate death gratuity  for Members of Congress. Lord help 
us!
* Eliminate Mohair  Subsidies. $1 million annual savings.
* Eliminate taxpayer  subsidies to the United Nations
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate  Change. $12.5 million annual savings
* Eliminate Market Access  Program. $200 million annual savings.
* USDA Sugar Program. $14  million annual savings.
* Subsidy to Organisation  for Economic Co-operation and Development
(OECD). $93 million annual  savings.
* Eliminate the National  Organic Certification Cost-Share Program.
$56.2 million annual  savings.
* Eliminate fund for  Obamacare administrative costs. $900 million
savings.
* Ready to Learn TV  Program. $27 million savings..
* HUD Ph.D.  Program.
* Deficit Reduction  Check-Off Act.

* TOTAL  SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion  over Ten Years
My question is, what is all this doing in the budget in the  first 
place?


RE: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Denise Evans
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:59 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‏ - YouTube

 

  


This looks like the 60's.  Is the the 70's? 

 

It was 1970.

 

 Definitely before band names took on names like Twisted pinkie.  Which one 
are you?

 

The drummer.



--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:


From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‏ - YouTube
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 10:36 AM

  

No audio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWsofD6Ics 



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[FairfieldLife] Yagyas from Pundit Samuvedula

2011-07-28 Thread Yifu
http://vedicyagyacenter.com/upcoming-yagya-pujas.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread wayback71


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Denise Evans
 Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:59 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‏ - YouTube
 
  
 
   
 
 
 This looks like the 60's.  Is the the 70's? 
 
  
 
 It was 1970.
 
  
 
  Definitely before band names took on names like Twisted pinkie.  Which one 
 are you?
 
  
 
 The drummer.

Was this Connecticut?  Do you know what song you were playing?  You all look so 
very young, and we thought we new so much in those days!
 
 
 --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 
 
 From: Rick Archer rick@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‏ - YouTube
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 10:36 AM
 
   
 
 No audio:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyWsofD6Ics 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread Denise Evans
I've said for a long time that it is corporate that's running the show.  While 
I believe Obama thought he could usher in a more just and robust America, he 
wasn't able to and is now another pawn taking directions from the big 
Democratic party doners.  
However, he faced unbelievable odds...Bush and the Republicans left this 
country in tatters after inheriting the strongest federal balance sheet in 
postwar history.  I have no understanding of how anyone could trust that 
agenda, which is why, when I look at the alternative to Obama, I get even more 
worried.  
All politicians give us BS in their speeches - I can't tolerate listening to 
any of them on either side.  I think we need to get a message to the Democratic 
Party and our individual reps...they are just as bad right now in using 
sensationalism and self-righteousness to drum up money as the other side...two 
sides of the same coin.  It's a completely flawed system. Maybe there is value 
in a 4th party, I don't know. 
Until we, the people, address corporate america and demand that they work for 
us and not the other way around, we are screwed.  How do we do this?  I'd like 
to hear some ideas.
Of course, Obama may be deciding that his life is more importantremember 
what happens to those who are too outspoken and gain too much influence.  While 
I have no proof of course.I always think about JFK, Bobby Kennedy, and MLK. 
 

--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 4:36 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We don't need a 3rd party.  We need to primary Obama with a Democrat who will 
 stand up and say Obama doesn't represent the party of FDR, he represents the 
 blood suckers on Wall Street. Bernie Sanders agrees we should primary Obama 
 hoping it would push Obama further to the left. It's not going to happen. 
 Obama has a lock on plenty of money for a campaign that would (if 2008 is any 
 lesson) trash the reputation of the challenger, have the DNC cheat for him 
 and play the race card for good measure. Obama is on the right, has always 
 been on the right and will stay on the right regardless of a primary.



 The debt ceiling debate is just kabuki to make the rubes believe that the 
 only choice, Flimflam Man has to save the county from defaulting on its debt 
 is sacrifice Social Security and Medicare when in truth that is exactly what 
 Obama was hired to do.



 If Obama were a Democrat, he would have stopped all the Republican crazy talk 
 about the debt ceiling by simply saying he would invoke the 14th Amendment. 
 Bill Clinton said he would invoke the constitutional option to raise the debt 
 ceiling without hesitation, and force the courts to stop me in order to 
 prevent a default. Now, there's a president with some balls.



 http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/07/19/bill-clinton-says-he-would-use-the-14th-amendment/



 For the past few weeks, Obama has shown no interest in involving Democrats in 
 negotiating with Boehner, Cantor or McConnell because he couldn't have 
 gotten away with unilaterally offering up programs to help the poor and 
 women. Obama has continually lied about the strength and solvency of the 
 social safety net and now he has accomplished what George W. Bush and every 
 Republican before him could only dream of doing, destroy FDR's New Deal.





What is going on here?   I've been complaining about a lack of follow

through, a lack of leadership.Yes, we're going to close GITMO,

yes, gays in the military and so on yet when in office it's OK, at

least two full scale wars are great, and we'll involve ourselves in

civil wars as we do in Libya.  It's Pax Americana all over again.   We

can't cut defense spending because when Obama became president he was

born again and saw how important being involved in everybody else's

life is good.   Then there's the gay thing.   Another president who

cared would have used his powers as Commander in Chief.  Another

president would have said yes, I've got a duty to uphold the way, but

I'm going to shirk my duty and tell Justice to lay off the DOM law.

I've wondered where the leadership's been.  Why not stand up against

the Repubs.  FDR did, LBJ did, Bill Clinton acted presidential.  I'm

starting to agree with you, RD.  It's looking like we have a president

with an agenda here and he hides his agenda in not being a leader.

Don't be a leader, be ineffectual when you need to make it look like

you're being forced into watered down health reform, cutting down on

social security, medicare and medicaid.  Don't question why we need to

spend so much money elsewhere, like bombing Libya.  It doesn't matter

that 1/5th of men aren't working, that there's so much unemployment

and under employment 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wayback71
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 3:04 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video of my old band, ‪Goodhill‬‏ - YouTube

 



Was this Connecticut? Do you know what song you were playing? 

 

Don’t even remember the occasion, much less the song. But I wasn’t stoned. Most 
of those guys were meditating.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread wayback71


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 I've said for a long time that it is corporate that's running the show. 
  While I believe Obama thought he could usher in a more just and robust 
 America, he wasn't able to and is now another pawn taking directions from the 
 big Democratic party doners.  
 However, he faced unbelievable odds...Bush and the Republicans left this 
 country in tatters after inheriting the strongest federal balance sheet in 
 postwar history.  I have no understanding of how anyone could trust that 
 agenda, which is why, when I look at the alternative to Obama, I get even 
 more worried.  
 All politicians give us BS in their speeches - I can't tolerate listening to 
 any of them on either side.  I think we need to get a message to the 
 Democratic Party and our individual reps...they are just as bad right now in 
 using sensationalism and self-righteousness to drum up money as the other 
 side...two sides of the same coin.  It's a completely flawed system. Maybe 
 there is value in a 4th party, I don't know. 
 Until we, the people, address corporate america and demand that they work for 
 us and not the other way around, we are screwed.  How do we do this?  I'd 
 like to hear some ideas.

I think in our society, just about the only way to change people's minds and/or 
to mobilize them to make demands of corporate America is through a movie, or 
several, that get the information out in a simple, vivid, unambiguous form.   
Most people don't want to think too much or deeply about anything complicated.  
So the movies would need to be compelling, clear, somewhat simple, and appeal 
to a variety of issues that affect us.  People would have to get that without 
change, they are hurt financially, and that with change, they will benefit 
financially.

Along with the movie some simple, inexpensive ways to put pressure on 
corporations has to be available.  

But I hold little hope that anything would work.  If climate change and health 
insurance are examples of our behavior on issues, despite how important they 
are, then everyone will just follow along in their same thought patterns.  What 
I see is that the only reason most people are interested in driving a smaller, 
gas efficient car now is because the cost of gas bothers them.  And most don't 
want national health insurance because, God forbid, they might end up paying a 
few pennies for some disabled or unemployed person's health care, too.  We here 
in the US don't do much to help the group - our individualism is entrenched 
strongly.


 Of course, Obama may be deciding that his life is more importantremember 
 what happens to those who are too outspoken and gain too much influence. 
  While I have no proof of course.I always think about JFK, Bobby 
 Kennedy, and MLK.  
 
 --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 
 From: Tom Pall thomas.pall@...
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 4:36 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
 
  We don't need a 3rd party.  We need to primary Obama with a Democrat who 
  will stand up and say Obama doesn't represent the party of FDR, he 
  represents the blood suckers on Wall Street. Bernie Sanders agrees we 
  should primary Obama hoping it would push Obama further to the left. It's 
  not going to happen. Obama has a lock on plenty of money for a campaign 
  that would (if 2008 is any lesson) trash the reputation of the challenger, 
  have the DNC cheat for him and play the race card for good measure. Obama 
  is on the right, has always been on the right and will stay on the right 
  regardless of a primary.
 
 
 
  The debt ceiling debate is just kabuki to make the rubes believe that the 
  only choice, Flimflam Man has to save the county from defaulting on its 
  debt is sacrifice Social Security and Medicare when in truth that is 
  exactly what Obama was hired to do.
 
 
 
  If Obama were a Democrat, he would have stopped all the Republican crazy 
  talk about the debt ceiling by simply saying he would invoke the 14th 
  Amendment. Bill Clinton said he would invoke the constitutional option to 
  raise the debt ceiling without hesitation, and force the courts to stop 
  me in order to prevent a default. Now, there's a president with some balls.
 
 
 
  http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/07/19/bill-clinton-says-he-would-use-the-14th-amendment/
 
 
 
  For the past few weeks, Obama has shown no interest in involving Democrats 
  in negotiating with Boehner, Cantor or McConnell because he couldn't have 
  gotten away with unilaterally offering up programs to help the poor and 
  women. Obama has continually lied about the strength and solvency of the 
  social safety net and now he has accomplished what George W. Bush and every 
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Force Of Fate

2011-07-28 Thread John
A few months ago, I saw a video clip in Spanish of Penelope Cruz.  She was 
saying she couln't believe of her success in the USA.  In jyotish, such success 
is shown in the chart.  The manifestation of this success or yogas can be 
foretold based on the various prediction models like the vimshottari mahadasas, 
or major periods of the planets.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 What is charisma? Are you born with it, or can it be
 acquired? At what age does it appear?
 
 These are the questions asked by a link off of Huffpost
 that points to a music video made for a Spanish pop 
 group called Mecano for their song La Fuerza del 
 Destino. The band itself is now (possibly blessedly) 
 forgotten, but the star of the music video is anything 
 but -- Penelope Cruz, age 15.
 
 http://www.celebuzz.com/2011-07-28/penelope-cruz-in-her-sultry-music-video-debut-video/





[FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread wayback71


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 I've said for a long time that it is corporate that's running the show. 
  While I believe Obama thought he could usher in a more just and robust 
 America, he wasn't able to and is now another pawn taking directions from the 
 big Democratic party doners.  
 However, he faced unbelievable odds...Bush and the Republicans left this 
 country in tatters after inheriting the strongest federal balance sheet in 
 postwar history.  I have no understanding of how anyone could trust that 
 agenda, which is why, when I look at the alternative to Obama, I get even 
 more worried.  
 All politicians give us BS in their speeches - I can't tolerate listening to 
 any of them on either side.  I think we need to get a message to the 
 Democratic Party and our individual reps...they are just as bad right now in 
 using sensationalism and self-righteousness to drum up money as the other 
 side...two sides of the same coin.  It's a completely flawed system. Maybe 
 there is value in a 4th party, I don't know. 
 Until we, the people, address corporate america and demand that they work for 
 us and not the other way around, we are screwed.  How do we do this?  I'd 
 like to hear some ideas.
 Of course, Obama may be deciding that his life is more important

I think Obama spent his entire life compromising and fitting in so he could get 
a good education, achieve and do something significant with his life.  
Compromising is his entrenched way of being.  Times now might be calling for 
more forcefulness than he has.

remember what happens to those who are too outspoken and gain too much 
influence.  While I have no proof of course.I always think about JFK, 
Bobby Kennedy, and MLK.  
 
 --- On Thu, 7/28/11, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 
 From: Tom Pall thomas.pall@...
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 4:36 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:40 AM, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
 
  We don't need a 3rd party.  We need to primary Obama with a Democrat who 
  will stand up and say Obama doesn't represent the party of FDR, he 
  represents the blood suckers on Wall Street. Bernie Sanders agrees we 
  should primary Obama hoping it would push Obama further to the left. It's 
  not going to happen. Obama has a lock on plenty of money for a campaign 
  that would (if 2008 is any lesson) trash the reputation of the challenger, 
  have the DNC cheat for him and play the race card for good measure. Obama 
  is on the right, has always been on the right and will stay on the right 
  regardless of a primary.
 
 
 
  The debt ceiling debate is just kabuki to make the rubes believe that the 
  only choice, Flimflam Man has to save the county from defaulting on its 
  debt is sacrifice Social Security and Medicare when in truth that is 
  exactly what Obama was hired to do.
 
 
 
  If Obama were a Democrat, he would have stopped all the Republican crazy 
  talk about the debt ceiling by simply saying he would invoke the 14th 
  Amendment. Bill Clinton said he would invoke the constitutional option to 
  raise the debt ceiling without hesitation, and force the courts to stop 
  me in order to prevent a default. Now, there's a president with some balls.
 
 
 
  http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2011/07/19/bill-clinton-says-he-would-use-the-14th-amendment/
 
 
 
  For the past few weeks, Obama has shown no interest in involving Democrats 
  in negotiating with Boehner, Cantor or McConnell because he couldn't have 
  gotten away with unilaterally offering up programs to help the poor and 
  women. Obama has continually lied about the strength and solvency of the 
  social safety net and now he has accomplished what George W. Bush and every 
  Republican before him could only dream of doing, destroy FDR's New Deal.
 
 
 
 
 
 What is going on here?   I've been complaining about a lack of follow
 
 through, a lack of leadership.Yes, we're going to close GITMO,
 
 yes, gays in the military and so on yet when in office it's OK, at
 
 least two full scale wars are great, and we'll involve ourselves in
 
 civil wars as we do in Libya.  It's Pax Americana all over again.   We
 
 can't cut defense spending because when Obama became president he was
 
 born again and saw how important being involved in everybody else's
 
 life is good.   Then there's the gay thing.   Another president who
 
 cared would have used his powers as Commander in Chief.  Another
 
 president would have said yes, I've got a duty to uphold the way, but
 
 I'm going to shirk my duty and tell Justice to lay off the DOM law.
 
 I've wondered where the leadership's been.  Why not stand up against
 
 the Repubs.  FDR did, LBJ did, Bill Clinton acted presidential.  I'm
 
 starting to agree with you, RD.  It's looking like we have 

Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/28/2011 01:03 PM, Denise Evans wrote:
 I've said for a long time that it is corporate that's running the show.  
 While I believe Obama thought he could usher in a more just and robust 
 America, he wasn't able to and is now another pawn taking directions from the 
 big Democratic party doners.

I think the ruse was in before he even gave the speech at the 2004 
election.  It was all orchestrated before that.  He was a chosen 
candidate and the speech written to gain him attention for a 
presidential run.   I still voted for him.  I certainly wasn't going to 
vote for McCain.  The only Republican I've ever voted for was a liberal 
one who was a governor of my home state and later senator.  I didn't 
support Hillary because shouldn't wouldn't have won either.  You would 
have had all the howling from the Clinton haters against her.  Obama 
asked us at one point to hold his feet to the fire and we have done so.

We have an illusion of democracy.  And indeed corporate is running the 
show.  Up until Santa Clara County vs South Pacific Railroad they 
couldn't.  I sometimes suspect the Civil War wasn't about states rights 
over slavery but states rights over railroad gauges.  Back then you had 
railroads running different gauges.  In order for the railroad mogols to 
have consistent gauges for a transcontinental railroad you needed a 
federal law mandating it.  Without that every time you crossed a state 
line you would have had to change trains.  There was a LOT of money at 
stake with that project.

 However, he faced unbelievable odds...Bush and the Republicans left this 
 country in tatters after inheriting the strongest federal balance sheet in 
 postwar history.  I have no understanding of how anyone could trust that 
 agenda, which is why, when I look at the alternative to Obama, I get even 
 more worried.

I believe the Republicans want to destroy the US economy so their 
cronies can buy it for pennies on the dollar.  They are descendants 
either by blood or by ideology (useful idiots) of European landowners 
who didn't like their serfs fleeing to the new world and owning 
property.  This has been going on since the country was founded.

Own your house outright?  We'll they may try to find some way to kick 
you out of it.  They hate us for our freedoms.  But they are risking an 
insurgency rising up against them.  And I don't think the Patriot Act 
nor the DHS can prevent it.

 All politicians give us BS in their speeches - I can't tolerate listening to 
 any of them on either side.  I think we need to get a message to the 
 Democratic Party and our individual reps...they are just as bad right now in 
 using sensationalism and self-righteousness to drum up money as the other 
 side...two sides of the same coin.  It's a completely flawed system. Maybe 
 there is value in a 4th party, I don't know.

Create a new government and constitution where policy is made by a large 
council.  No one could have enough power to pull it any one direction.  
We have the technology for everyone to get involved if they want to.   I 
personally think that a socialist government that runs things in the 
commons and has a mandate to be streamlined would work very well.  And 
at the same time allow ONLY small business to exist.  This because the 
latter would be too much micromanagement for a centralized government.  
More likely though the US would break up geographically into new 
countries which have specific issues.  This happened to the USSR.

OTOH, if you look at the open source movement in software some of the 
newer business models we may well be moving towards a collectivist 
society.  The corporations want to run it but fie to that.  It should be 
owned and run by the people.  There are just a lot of situations where 
individual ownership no longer makes sense.

   
 Until we, the people, address corporate america and demand that they work for 
 us and not the other way around, we are screwed.  How do we do this?  I'd 
 like to hear some ideas.

Capitalism only works in small populations where there is plenty of 
slack.  It is too chaotic otherwise.  What we have now is money 
junkies who are obsessed with accumulating money and power.  We curbed 
that with progressive taxes which discouraged such behavior.  When those 
taxes were capped we got these deranged billionaires.  People like the 
Koch brothers (who earned their money the old fashioned way -- they 
inherited it) are a danger to America.  This shit has to stop!

 Of course, Obama may be deciding that his life is more importantremember 
 what happens to those who are too outspoken and gain too much influence.  
 While I have no proof of course.I always think about JFK, Bobby Kennedy, 
 and MLK.

You might enjoy Russ Baker's writings on conspiracy in America.  It is 
not sensationalist radio jock stuff and well researched.  He claims your 
oil moguls have been running things for decades in America and decide 
WHO will play salesman (president) 

[FairfieldLife] “OmgoMgomGo” and Bad Beat Bonus!

2011-07-28 Thread cardemaister

http://www.gamblingonlinemagazine.com/gambling-news-detail.php?articleID=3522



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Girl who Silenced the World

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 She delivered a very powerful speech.  Does anyone where she is now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_Cullis-Suzuki



[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Nabby, you are cute. 

Thanks :-)

 You forgot to add ji after, like Maharishiji.
 
I was never into the ji-thing because it indicated a distance. Even long before 
Maharishi dropped the body some were excercising this ji-sport. I don't know 
how he reacted to this, but I suspect he found it foolish. 



Re: [FairfieldLife] For Nabby - ‪The Message of the Pleiadians‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread Denise Evans
I'm not Nabbybut this is a great reminder message and worth viewing.  I saw 
that movie What the Bleep a long time ago.  There are sooo many of these types 
of reminders around in multiple contexts seemingly to intend to communicate to 
all factions of the human race.

--- On Wed, 7/27/11, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote:

From: Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Nabby - ‪The Message of the Pleiadians‬‏ - YouTube
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 8:45 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRta1xu6FYfeature=player_embedded  


 





 



  










[FairfieldLife] Re: Koans

2011-07-28 Thread richardwillytexwilliams


  Untill this day he holds agression towards the 
  TMO. At least 80% of his posts here is in some 
  way a trying to make a Maharishi-put-down...
 
turquoiseb:
 Ah so, Grasshopper. A mighty series of koans have
 been presented...

You have been kicked out of the 'TMO' - now it is 
official. And, 95% of your posts are putdowns of 
either MMY, the TMO, somebody's spiritual path, or 
another seeker. Face it - you suck as a spiritual 
teacher!

You sold nonsense gibberish syllables for a decade 
promising enlightenment in 5-7 years. 

What happened to all the money?

Then, you went over to another teacher and promised 
'instant' enlightenment. You are a longtime seller 
of 'snake-oil' for 'Zen Master Rama''. Go figure.

 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Nabby, you are cute. 
 
 Thanks :-)
 
  You forgot to add ji after, like Maharishiji.
  
 I was never into the ji-thing because it indicated a distance. Even long 
 before Maharishi dropped the body some were excercising this ji-sport. I 
 don't know how he reacted to this, but I suspect he found it foolish.


You are welcome. Plenty of Indians have been referring to Maharishiji as that. 
In fact, that is where I have heard it for years, from the Indians.  Go figure. 
 The  M Vedic experts are all foolish, because they add ji?  : )



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Girl who Silenced the World

2011-07-28 Thread John
Alex,

Thanks for the efficient research about this girl is now an outstanding woman.  
I just was moved by her speech as a young girl.  I wouldn't be surprised if she 
becomes a world-figure in ecology or any other endeavor that she chooses.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  She delivered a very powerful speech.  Does anyone where she is now?
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_Cullis-Suzuki





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/28/2011 02:37 PM, obbajeeba wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008no_reply@...  wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeebano_reply@  wrote:
 Nabby, you are cute.
 Thanks :-)

 You forgot to add ji after, like Maharishiji.

 I was never into the ji-thing because it indicated a distance. Even long 
 before Maharishi dropped the body some were excercising this ji-sport. I 
 don't know how he reacted to this, but I suspect he found it foolish.

 You are welcome. Plenty of Indians have been referring to Maharishiji as 
 that. In fact, that is where I have heard it for years, from the Indians.  Go 
 figure.  The  M Vedic experts are all foolish, because they add ji?  : )

Ravi may want to chime in but ji is a bit like saying mister.  In 
some of the older US made movies made that took place in India (maybe 
Nine Hours to Rama) the Indians would say add mister after the 
person's name when speaking their pigeon English.  So it doesn't confer 
anything but a title of respect like Mr.  Of course in our modern times 
such conventions tend fall away as being too formal (sort of like 
putting Dear in the opening of an email).



[FairfieldLife] Re: If TM were a drug?

2011-07-28 Thread John
Valerian by itself has a definite calming effect.  It's one of the ingredient 
used in Mind Plus, a rasayana sold by the TMO, to improve the mind functioning.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 I may see an Ayurvedic practitioner.  I am going to try Valerian and the 
 tribal mantra...definitely am of the pitta variety.  Have resorted to 1/2 an 
 Ambien...which definitely puts you out...but it's more like being knocked 
 out, which is not the goal!  I have no side effects that I'm aware of in the 
 AM however, so it's pretty tempting to use.  I've had some success with 
 Melatonin but have to take a lot of it.
 
 --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 
 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:58 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Knowing some ayurveda is useful.  Insomnia is often related to a vata 
 
 imbalance though in summer excess pitta can cause it.  Cooling and 
 
 calming herbs are useful.  Spearmint tea is cooling for pitta and 
 
 somewhat calming for vata.  Comfrey is also a good tea to use.  Dr. 
 
 Lad's vata tea consists of equal amounts of cumin, coriander and 
 
 ginger.  But if pitta might be an issue reduce or omit the ginger.  Even 
 
 back in the 1980s I kept a bottle of valerian root tablets next to my 
 
 bed to allay insomnia.  Ram is a calming mantra for vata.
 
 I've also successfully used this tribal mantra to bring on sleep:
 
 http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2007/02/health_tip_of_t_1.html
 
 
 
 On 07/27/2011 09:40 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
 
  Sleep deprivation is a chronic issue - does TM allow you to nap at will?
 
 
 
  --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Vajvajradhatu@...  wrote:
 
 
 
  From: Vajvajradhatu@...
 
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 5:00 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM, cardemaisterno_re...@yahoogroups.com  
  wrote:
 
 
 
  If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many
 
  benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a
 
  billion-dollar blockbuster.
 
 
 
  - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through 
  Transcendental Meditation
 
 
 
  Wiki:
 
 
 
  Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. in 
  1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick 
  Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, 
  Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with the NIMH as a 
  Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4] Rosenthal 
  eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 
  1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later 
  studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of spring fever. [5][6]
 
  If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the
 
  market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the
 
  market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs
 
  all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with a
 
  wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward side
 
  effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug.
 
 
 
  TM would be eventually be classified as a Schedule I drug in the US,
 
  with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin.
 
 
 
  There are dangerous drugs which are put on and kept on the market
 
  because although they have a profile where the dangerous side effects
 
  are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are
 
  prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation
 
  with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8 hours
 
  a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before
 
  going into activity after taking the drug, something good is happening
 
  or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug.
 
  LOL!
 
  Actually, if TM were a drug there'd be massive lawsuits as it was found out 
  the research results were fudged and/or faked to exaggerate the desire 
  outcome.
 
  Sound crazy? This is actually what happened quite recently when TM 
  researchers were found fudging data to make TM look better than it ever 
  was. An old trend in this very dishonest org - ever since Keith Wallace was 
  found manipulating the baseline on TM research of metabolic rate, falsely 
  making it look like TM reduced metabolic rate wildly. 
 
  It turns out TM reduces metabolic rate no differently than napping (which 
  is actually what the majority of TMers are doing).
 
  Of course some anonymous person 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com wrote:
 remember what happens to those who are too outspoken and gain too much
influence. Â While I have no proof of course.I always think about JFK,
Bobby Kennedy, and MLK. Â

I expected that Obama would meet the same fate as the 3 mentioned, only
sooner.   But he's a crafty one.  Indeed he got by by being the affirmative
action token who appealed to the black, Hispanic and liberal vote and
accommodation.  That's what community organizers do.  And lawyers plea
bargain be it in criminal or civil matters.   Instead of carrying out 1% of
what he promised, he chose life and re-election rather than principle.   The
three men mentioned would not have done that.  The 3 men mentioned were of
the Great War generation.  They knew what principle was, what conviction was
(*JFK wrote Profiles in Courage*).  If offered a choice beforehand, each
would, IMO, have chosen to give up his live.  The Kennedy's, if they had
been told what would follow their demise would have had a different idea
about giving up their lives for principle.  Seeing that they'd be dying so
what they were most against would win out.  Well, kind of.   JFK's death got
the Great Society.  But it also got the Vietnam disaster.   These are days
where it's not principle. It's way beyond the ME Generation.  And of course
what party operative from Chicago ever had principles?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Yagyas from Pundit Samuvedula

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://vedicyagyacenter.com/upcoming-yagya-pujas.html



Are absolutely useless.  Done by a few children.   And communication with
the great priest is next to impossible.  Don't waste your money or your
time.

You know this guy's not cutting it as he has to travel the world trying to
drum up business for himself.


Re: [FairfieldLife] The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:


 A close examination of Mahesh across time and from people who saw his
 on-stage persona and his off-stage self, shows that the image of the blissy
 giggling guru was just that: an image, a caricature, a stage illusion; most
 never knew the Real Reesh, the Grinch.

 One can, in 20/20 hind vision see where the World Teacher Seminar of RWC
 subconsciously received it's idea of stage, setting/context, actors,
 stagehands and audience. Step right up to the microphone, the audience
 awaits and all the world's a stage!


There's a stage leaving for El Paso in an hour.  Let's put RWC on it.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Force Of Fate

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:15 PM, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A few months ago, I saw a video clip in Spanish of Penelope Cruz.  She was
 saying she couln't believe of her success in the USA.  In jyotish, such
 success is shown in the chart.  The manifestation of this success or yogas
 can be foretold based on the various prediction models like the vimshottari
 mahadasas, or major periods of the planets.


And she's the only person in the world to have such features on her chart,
right?

Who said it?   The stock market has predicted 9 of the last 5 recessions?


Re: [FairfieldLife] The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj

On Jul 28, 2011, at 6:35 PM, Tom Pall wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:26 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
 A close examination of Mahesh across time and from people who saw his 
 on-stage persona and his off-stage self, shows that the image of the blissy 
 giggling guru was just that: an image, a caricature, a stage illusion; most 
 never knew the Real Reesh, the Grinch. 
 
 One can, in 20/20 hind vision see where the World Teacher Seminar of RWC 
 subconsciously received it's idea of stage, setting/context, actors, 
 stagehands and audience. Step right up to the microphone, the audience awaits 
 and all the world's a stage!
 
  
 There's a stage leaving for El Paso in an hour.  Let's put RWC on it.

Some might say that RWC succeeded at separating the ego by simulating a dance 
of good and evil where a glimpse of grace could be (hopefully) grasped - 
somewhat similar to a pointing-out instruction. The student however had to 
make the foundational decision, a turning in the seat of consciousness, in 
order to separate from their dark side long enough and decisively enough to 
vanquish over it. Many of the his students were MIU students who seemed to be 
demonically possessed…or was it just an elaborate staging, with a context that 
forced the audience into the subjectivity of the director (RWC)?

Perhaps forums like FFL could be another kind of stage where such contexts can 
be explained and understood?

[FairfieldLife] Re: If TM were a drug?/insomina solutions

2011-07-28 Thread shukra69
agar35 is very useful as are the mapi sleep formulas for many people 
 
www.mapi.com

http://www.jcrowsmarketplace.com/agar35-eaglewood35tibetanherbalformulation.aspx

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 I may see an Ayurvedic practitioner.  I am going to try Valerian and the 
 tribal mantra...definitely am of the pitta variety.  Have resorted to 1/2 an 
 Ambien...which definitely puts you out...but it's more like being knocked 
 out, which is not the goal!  I have no side effects that I'm aware of in the 
 AM however, so it's pretty tempting to use.  I've had some success with 
 Melatonin but have to take a lot of it.
 
 --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 
 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:58 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Knowing some ayurveda is useful.  Insomnia is often related to a vata 
 
 imbalance though in summer excess pitta can cause it.  Cooling and 
 
 calming herbs are useful.  Spearmint tea is cooling for pitta and 
 
 somewhat calming for vata.  Comfrey is also a good tea to use.  Dr. 
 
 Lad's vata tea consists of equal amounts of cumin, coriander and 
 
 ginger.  But if pitta might be an issue reduce or omit the ginger.  Even 
 
 back in the 1980s I kept a bottle of valerian root tablets next to my 
 
 bed to allay insomnia.  Ram is a calming mantra for vata.
 
 I've also successfully used this tribal mantra to bring on sleep:
 
 http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2007/02/health_tip_of_t_1.html
 
 
 
 On 07/27/2011 09:40 AM, Denise Evans wrote:
 
  Sleep deprivation is a chronic issue - does TM allow you to nap at will?
 
 
 
  --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Vajvajradhatu@...  wrote:
 
 
 
  From: Vajvajradhatu@...
 
  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
 
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
  Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 5:00 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM, cardemaisterno_re...@yahoogroups.com  
  wrote:
 
 
 
  If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many
 
  benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a
 
  billion-dollar blockbuster.
 
 
 
  - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation Through 
  Transcendental Meditation
 
 
 
  Wiki:
 
 
 
  Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington, D.C. in 
  1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with Fredrick 
  Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in Bethesda, 
  Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with the NIMH as a 
  Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4] Rosenthal 
  eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the institute and in 
  1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects of SAD and later 
  studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of spring fever. [5][6]
 
  If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the
 
  market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the
 
  market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs
 
  all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with a
 
  wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward side
 
  effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug.
 
 
 
  TM would be eventually be classified as a Schedule I drug in the US,
 
  with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin.
 
 
 
  There are dangerous drugs which are put on and kept on the market
 
  because although they have a profile where the dangerous side effects
 
  are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are
 
  prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation
 
  with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8 hours
 
  a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before
 
  going into activity after taking the drug, something good is happening
 
  or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug.
 
  LOL!
 
  Actually, if TM were a drug there'd be massive lawsuits as it was found out 
  the research results were fudged and/or faked to exaggerate the desire 
  outcome.
 
  Sound crazy? This is actually what happened quite recently when TM 
  researchers were found fudging data to make TM look better than it ever 
  was. An old trend in this very dishonest org - ever since Keith Wallace was 
  found manipulating the baseline on TM research of metabolic rate, falsely 
  making it look like TM reduced metabolic rate wildly. 
 
  It turns out TM reduces metabolic rate no differently than napping (which 
  is actually what the majority of TMers are doing).
 
  Of course some anonymous 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals Photos

2011-07-28 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 These are a pair of sandals Maharishi wore exclusively for an
 unknown number of years prior to 1973...

The photos don't show up on the FFL web interface, so I've uploaded them to one 
of the photo folders:

http://tinyurl.com/3z2qg22

Go to the last page to see them. You can also see the pics in a PDF of the 
original email:

http://alex.natel.net/ffl/documents/Maharishi%20Sandals%20Photos.pdf



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals Photos

2011-07-28 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 These are a pair of sandals Maharishi wore exclusively for an unknown number 
 of years prior to 1973.  Due to financial difficulties, I am attempting to 
 sell them.  For their story, see below.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 When I was skin boy in the early seventies, a pair of Maharishi's sandals 
 came from him to me.  They were his exclusive pair for many years.
 
 They broke one evening in the wet grass of the Love Foundation, Mike Love's 
 place in Santa Barbara.  MIU, now MUM, was in Santa Barbara then and 
 Maharishi was staying there.  Anthony Jobbe, the skin boy at the time, found 
 a rock and hammered the nails of the strap back in.  Maharishi then wore them 
 to Seelisburg the first time we visited.  When we left for Switzerland, 
 Anthony stayed behind, and I soon became skin boy.
 
 In Maharishi's small meeting room, attached to his bedroom, he stepped on 
 blank sheets of paper and had me draw the outlines of his feet.  I then cut 
 them out and sent them to his preferred sandal maker in India.
 
 In due course, his new sandals arrived.  We had ordered two pair.  In that 
 same meeting room, Maharishi put them on and asked if they looked too big.  
 The few of us there said, No.  When he left the room to go to bed, he left 
 his old sandals where they stood.  That night, I did, as well.  When I went 
 in the next morning, they were still standing in the middle of the room.  I 
 realized that he either didn't care what happened to them or was purposefully 
 leaving them for me.  Needless to say, I didn't throw them away.
 
 In my experience, they still carry a lot of his energy, as if the atoms and 
 molecules have been entrained in it.  And, of course, in India, they would be 
 holy objects to be revered.  I have kept them very well protected and have 
 handled them very little over the decades.
 
 At sixty-five, I have very little savings and have lost my job.  I was 
 planning to work into my seventies.  My predicament forces me to attempt to 
 sell them.  I am hoping that the person they are meant to go to will have the 
 wherewithal and will to honor their value.  As 108 for over four years, I 
 spent around $100K working for the movement pretty much seven days a week 
 (when not rounding).
 
 Another possibility is donating to me so I can donate them to the movement.
 
 Please copy and email to anyone you know who may be able and interested.
 
 Thank you and sincerely,
 
 Mark Landau, m...@sky5.com



Nice!

and now for something completely different: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk



Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?/insomina solutions

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj

On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:14 PM, shukra69 wrote:

 agar35 is very useful as are the mapi sleep formulas for many people 
 
 www.mapi.com
 
 http://www.jcrowsmarketplace.com/agar35-eaglewood35tibetanherbalformulation.aspx


Good choice, but MAPI doesn't carry Tibetan medicines that I'm aware of.

[FairfieldLife] Questions and answers - a selection, July 2011

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008
http://share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2011/2011-07.htm#q-n-a



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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Force Of Fate

2011-07-28 Thread John
Penelope's chart is unique and no other person can duplicate it.  This applies 
to everyone in this planet.  The gifts of nature are different for everyone.  
For example, Bill Gates has a chart for making billions of dollars in the 
computer industry.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:15 PM, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 
  A few months ago, I saw a video clip in Spanish of Penelope Cruz.  She was
  saying she couln't believe of her success in the USA.  In jyotish, such
  success is shown in the chart.  The manifestation of this success or yogas
  can be foretold based on the various prediction models like the vimshottari
  mahadasas, or major periods of the planets.
 
 
 And she's the only person in the world to have such features on her chart,
 right?
 
 Who said it?   The stock market has predicted 9 of the last 5 recessions?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread Denise Evans
All in all, reality dictates that the majority of us live within the 
systemand most of us, including myself, are still struggling within such 
system.
Currently, you have three choices...Republican or Democrat or Independent...if 
you choose to participate in our political system.  
We are all disappointed in various ways, but I still have way more faith in 
Obama then I do in the fungus underneath any one of the current Republican 
leaders toenails.  
I don't think any of us, including myself, can even hope to say anything 
intelligent about what we know nothing about, such as doing the job ourselves, 
what he is up against, etc.  I see many signs that he is fighting the fight, 
but perhaps not in the way that is recognizable to everyone.  I think that 
overall, he has accomplished an amazing amount.  We know this by how hard the 
other party is fighting and slamming every aspect of him, if we don't bother to 
check it out ourselves.
While I refuse to give money to any political party, I would vote for Obama 
again, as I think he has done more to start the correction in the nightmare 
that is Washington and our Congress than anyone could have and I don't see a 
worthy alternative.  
Yes, he is a compromiser and an intellect and perhaps he is too wedded to the 
ideal that we will all come together, but he represents us and until we come 
up with a better solution, he should have our support.
A Republican regime right now, IMHO, would be selling our soul to an even 
greater extent. I will never concede that the Bush years did anything but badly 
destabilize every part of our country and relationship to the planet.
Talk is cheap and so are my words, which are worth little.  We have no control 
and no insight that is worth anything really.  I ask myself, why bother with 
acting like an ignorant pundit?  I choose to retreat from here and spend my 
time on staying alive.  Survival is a basic instinct, afterall.

--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 3:20 PM















 
 



  



  
  
  On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:22 PM, wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com wrote:
 remember what happens to those who are too outspoken and gain too much 
 influence.  While I have no proof of course.I always think about JFK, 
 Bobby Kennedy, and MLK.  


I expected that Obama would meet the same fate as the 3 mentioned, only sooner. 
  But he's a crafty one.  Indeed he got by by being the affirmative action 
token who appealed to the black, Hispanic and liberal vote and accommodation.  
That's what community organizers do.  And lawyers plea bargain be it in 
criminal or civil matters.   Instead of carrying out 1% of what he promised, he 
chose life and re-election rather than principle.   The three men mentioned 
would not have done that.  The 3 men mentioned were of the Great War 
generation.  They knew what principle was, what conviction was (JFK wrote 
Profiles in Courage).  If offered a choice beforehand, each would, IMO, have 
chosen to give up his live.  The Kennedy's, if they had been told what would 
follow their demise would have had a different idea about giving up their lives 
for principle.  Seeing that they'd be dying so what they were most against 
would win out.  Well, kind of.   JFK's
 death got the Great Society.  But it also got the Vietnam disaster.   These 
are days where it's not principle. It's way beyond the ME Generation.  And of 
course what party operative from Chicago ever had principles?     






 





 



  










[FairfieldLife] Re: For Nabby - ‪The Message of the Pleiadians‬‏ - YouTube

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 I'm not Nabbybut this is a great reminder message and worth viewing.  I 
 saw that movie What the Bleep a long time ago.  There are sooo many of these 
 types of reminders around in multiple contexts seemingly to intend to 
 communicate to all factions of the human race.
 
 --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 
 From: Rick Archer rick@...
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Nabby - ‪The Message of 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRta1xu6FYfeature=player_embedded

Very nice, do see this tape. Please remember it is from 1975 when His Divinity 
declared The Age of Enlightenment in Seelisberg.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's Sandals Photos

2011-07-28 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:


 and now for something completely different: 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk

Very Funny ! Raj Patel acknowleges this video to represent him most accurately 
- or not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA



[FairfieldLife] Barry Judy: put to music

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gan1keOg9e8
LINK
Adrian Belew of King Crimson does a rare acoustic version of one of their songs 
during a break:

Three of a Perfect Pair

She is susceptible 
He is impossible 
They have their cross to share 
Three of a perfect pair... 
He has his contradicting views 
She has her cyclothymic moods 
They make a study in despair 
Three of a perfect pair... 

One 
One too many 
Schizophrenic tendencies 
Keeps it complicated 
Keeps her agggravated 
And full of this hopelessness 
What a perfect mess…

He has his contradicting views 
She has her cyclothymic moods 
They make a study in despair 
Three of a perfect pair… 

One 
One too many 
Schizophrenic tendencies 
Keeps it complicated 
Keeps her agggravated 
And full of this hopelessness 
What a perfect mess…

One 
One too many 
Schizophrenic tendencies 
Keeps it complicated 
Keeps her agggravated 
And full of this hopelessness 
What a perfect mess…

Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread Denise Evans
There are many interesting points in this responseI've determined that I'm 
not qualified to speak on the matter of economics or  weigh in on the 
performance of our president. The posturing is all we read about in the 
news...the pointless distraction of one vicious dogfight after another.   
My reactive opinions are based on a combination of intuition and real world 
experience and I'm not giving up on the only candidate standing between me and 
a continuation of the Bush years.
I wonder sometimes if we should all take our different spiritual practices and 
practice them at a single time period and stop fighting about which are true 
and which aren't and just focus on something simple like peace or 
compassion.  They all get us supposedly to the same place  
Perhaps if there were a coordinated spiritual sit-in, we would see whether we 
humans have any ability to shift the destructive emphasis.




--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] #f@ckyouwashington
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 1:40 PM















 
 



  



  
  
  On 07/28/2011 01:03 PM, Denise Evans wrote:

 I've said for a long time that it is corporate that's running the show.  
 While I believe Obama thought he could usher in a more just and robust 
 America, he wasn't able to and is now another pawn taking directions from the 
 big Democratic party doners.



I think the ruse was in before he even gave the speech at the 2004 

election.  It was all orchestrated before that.  He was a chosen 

candidate and the speech written to gain him attention for a 

presidential run.   I still voted for him.  I certainly wasn't going to 

vote for McCain.  The only Republican I've ever voted for was a liberal 

one who was a governor of my home state and later senator.  I didn't 

support Hillary because shouldn't wouldn't have won either.  You would 

have had all the howling from the Clinton haters against her.  Obama 

asked us at one point to hold his feet to the fire and we have done so.



We have an illusion of democracy.  And indeed corporate is running the 

show.  Up until Santa Clara County vs South Pacific Railroad they 

couldn't.  I sometimes suspect the Civil War wasn't about states rights 

over slavery but states rights over railroad gauges.  Back then you had 

railroads running different gauges.  In order for the railroad mogols to 

have consistent gauges for a transcontinental railroad you needed a 

federal law mandating it.  Without that every time you crossed a state 

line you would have had to change trains.  There was a LOT of money at 

stake with that project.



 However, he faced unbelievable odds...Bush and the Republicans left this 
 country in tatters after inheriting the strongest federal balance sheet in 
 postwar history.  I have no understanding of how anyone could trust that 
 agenda, which is why, when I look at the alternative to Obama, I get even 
 more worried.



I believe the Republicans want to destroy the US economy so their 

cronies can buy it for pennies on the dollar.  They are descendants 

either by blood or by ideology (useful idiots) of European landowners 

who didn't like their serfs fleeing to the new world and owning 

property.  This has been going on since the country was founded.



Own your house outright?  We'll they may try to find some way to kick 

you out of it.  They hate us for our freedoms.  But they are risking an 

insurgency rising up against them.  And I don't think the Patriot Act 

nor the DHS can prevent it.



 All politicians give us BS in their speeches - I can't tolerate listening to 
 any of them on either side.  I think we need to get a message to the 
 Democratic Party and our individual reps...they are just as bad right now in 
 using sensationalism and self-righteousness to drum up money as the other 
 side...two sides of the same coin.  It's a completely flawed system. Maybe 
 there is value in a 4th party, I don't know.



Create a new government and constitution where policy is made by a large 

council.  No one could have enough power to pull it any one direction.  

We have the technology for everyone to get involved if they want to.   I 

personally think that a socialist government that runs things in the 

commons and has a mandate to be streamlined would work very well.  And 

at the same time allow ONLY small business to exist.  This because the 

latter would be too much micromanagement for a centralized government.  

More likely though the US would break up geographically into new 

countries which have specific issues.  This happened to the USSR.



OTOH, if you look at the open source movement in software some of the 

newer business models we may well be moving towards a collectivist 

society.  The corporations want to run it but fie to that.  It should be 

owned and run by the people.  There are 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote:

   I ask myself, why bother with acting like an ignorant pundit?  I choose
 to retreat from here and spend my time on staying alive.  Survival is a
 basic instinct, afterall.



Well, you also have the choice of being an ignorant feminazi and instead of
having a single original thought, post URLs and what they've read in
HuffPost and other online rags.

You've written some things here that amazed me.  So well articulated, so
well reasoned, so well thought out that I composed a couple of posts asking
you to give the attribution of the source you copied your words from, since
except for bitching, there's next to no articulated cogent writing on
politics here that's original.  I googled and was amazed to find that I
couldn't find what you had written anywhere except in FFL.  Amazing.

BTW, if you were calling me an ignorant pundit, well when you start paying
my property taxes, I'll let you guide my life a bit.  Maybe even a FF like
life coach, which according to the last US census, was the stated profession
of 80% of all ru women in FF.  Otherwise, I'll assume you were talking about
our feminazis and not me.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Judy: put to music

2011-07-28 Thread obbajeeba
What acoustic ability!  Never heard that before. The peoples in the place I sit 
enjoyed it. : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gan1keOg9e8
 LINK
 Adrian Belew of King Crimson does a rare acoustic version of one of their 
 songs during a break:
 
 Three of a Perfect Pair
 
 She is susceptible 
 He is impossible 
 They have their cross to share 
 Three of a perfect pair... 
 He has his contradicting views 
 She has her cyclothymic moods 
 They make a study in despair 
 Three of a perfect pair... 
 
 One 
 One too many 
 Schizophrenic tendencies 
 Keeps it complicated 
 Keeps her agggravated 
 And full of this hopelessness 
 What a perfect mess…
 
 He has his contradicting views 
 She has her cyclothymic moods 
 They make a study in despair 
 Three of a perfect pair… 
 
 One 
 One too many 
 Schizophrenic tendencies 
 Keeps it complicated 
 Keeps her agggravated 
 And full of this hopelessness 
 What a perfect mess…
 
 One 
 One too many 
 Schizophrenic tendencies 
 Keeps it complicated 
 Keeps her agggravated 
 And full of this hopelessness 
 What a perfect mess…





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Force Of Fate

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:28 PM, John jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Penelope's chart is unique and no other person can duplicate it.  This
 applies to everyone in this planet.  The gifts of nature are different for
 everyone.  For example, Bill Gates has a chart for making billions of
 dollars in the computer industry.


Le, le.  We've been thru this bullshit already.   Because so and so has
Pluto in the outhouse, Obama is president of the U.S.Explains a lot.
Except that 1,000,000 other people also have Pluto in the outhouse.

And it's always in retrospect.   Lincoln had this, that and that.  Therefore
he'll be the worse president the US has ever had. responsible for seemingly
endless needless deaths to benefit the North economically in the War of
Northern Aggression.   Take a science course.   Even go so far as to take a
math or worse yet, a statistics course.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Koans

2011-07-28 Thread authfriend
When Barry is the target of an unsupported claim or a lie,
the phrase What goes around, comes around springs to mind.

IOW, maybe if he didn't make so many unsupported claims or
tell so many outright lies about other people--very much
including Nabby--some of us might be more willing to stand
up for him rather than relishing his discomfiture.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  As you probably know Mark, there are stong suggestions 
  to support that this fellow was thrown out of the TMO, 
  head first, all access to courses immediately closed.

snip 
 First, will any of the self-appointed monitors of
 falsehood, and persecutors of lying, bother to ask
 Nabby to *produce* these supposed stong sugges-
 tions? For example, have they ever been made on
 this forum by anyone else?

I pointed out awhile back (#203748) that it was 
possible both that Nabby is telling the truth about
what he heard, and that Barry left the TMO on his own
hook.

And according to Nabby, back when this came up before
in 2009, one other person *has* made the same
suggestion on FFL. But this person isn't the only one
Nabby heard the suggestions from.

Obviously Barry has carefully chosen not to remember
what was said in that earlier discussion.

Here's what Nabby said back in January 2009 (#203561):

So I also do not have any p r o o f that he was asked to
stay away for security reasons, perhaps the reasons were
manysided. Again I don't care.

The problem for the Turq is that this version has been
ciculating for years from many different americans present
at the time, including one fellow that with his full name
claimed the same thing here on FFL. A fellow you should be
able to seek out from the archives if you so wished. The
same fellow also claimed that the Turqs claim to be some
kind of doorman for Maharishi was an outright lie as he was
consciously kept outside the door and not let into the room.
Security concerns have been hinted several times as the
reason for this.

TMO rumors are obviously not the sort of thing Nabby would
be able to document, so Barry's demand that he do so is
absurd. But perhaps he'd be willing to tell us the name of
the person who made the same claim on FFL.

In any case, given Barry's long, long record of dishonesty
on this forum and on alt.m.t, I'm a lot more inclined to
believe Nabby than Barry.

(Looks like Barry should review what koans are, too.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Force Of Fate

2011-07-28 Thread obbajeeba


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:28 PM, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 
  Penelope's chart is unique and no other person can duplicate it.  This
  applies to everyone in this planet.  The gifts of nature are different for
  everyone.  For example, Bill Gates has a chart for making billions of
  dollars in the computer industry.
 
 
 Le, le.  We've been thru this bullshit already.   Because so and so has
 Pluto in the outhouse, Obama is president of the U.S.Explains a lot.
 Except that 1,000,000 other people also have Pluto in the outhouse.
 
 And it's always in retrospect.   Lincoln had this, that and that.  Therefore
 he'll be the worse president the US has ever had. responsible for seemingly
 endless needless deaths to benefit the North economically in the War of
 Northern Aggression.   Take a science course.   Even go so far as to take a
 math or worse yet, a statistics course.



It is kind of odd when some people have experiences accounting to getting laid 
by one partner, or more than one partner or multiple at the similar time or not 
at all. 
I have heard of these tendencies showing up in charts of people. 
That in itself is enough to stimulate curiosity in the business of jyotish in 
america. lol



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Barry Judy: put to music

2011-07-28 Thread Vaj

On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:09 PM, obbajeeba wrote:

 What acoustic ability! Never heard that before. The peoples in the place I 
 sit enjoyed it. : )


It's usually done with two guitars, bass and drums, the two guitars playing 
parallel but different parts. I found it rather difficult to learn, as it's not 
a typical guitar piece by any means, esp. for a fingerpicker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QilNVTZx5CI

Belew is not only an extraordinary acoustic guitarist, but an excellent 
guitarist in general. I'm sure that's why Frank Zappa (who discovered him) and 
the Talking Heads were able to make such good use of him. His new King Crimson 
lineup starting in the early 80's, were what many MIUers and Carlsenites were 
grooving to.

[FairfieldLife] Re: AA - Apostates Anonymous

2011-07-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 The thing is, this imagined AA meeting is not out of the
 realm of imagination.

I love it when Barry gets so caught up in his own rhetoric
he ends up saying exactly the opposite of what he means.

Or maybe it's a Freudian slip...

Incidentally, as I was looking in the archives for the
previous discussion of Barry being thrown out of the TMO
(or not, as the case may be), I found a couple of
interesting quotes from his posts:

To be honest, there was *much* more demonization of
me when I Walked Away from the Rama trip. TMers are
real lightweights when it comes to demonizing a
former friend turned heretic. (#203425)

We were actually *told* how to deal with critics
from within the TM organization -- demonize them.
Or at least I was. It was actually codified in
letters sent to us at the Western Regional Office
from International Staff in Switzerland during
the early 70s. Later, as a State Coordinator, I
was told several times by International Staff to
circulate untrue rumors about someone whom they
had decided was overly critical of the TMO or
'off the program.' I always refused. (#203400)

Regardless of which trip was more vicious about
demonizing apostates, you'd think Barry would give
Nabby the doubt concerning the TMO rumors about the
nature of Barry's departure from the organization.

Unless, of course, the paragraph I just quoted was
a lie, and the truth was more along the lines of the
quoted paragraph above it.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
snip
 A close examination of Mahesh across time and from people who
 saw his on-stage persona and his off-stage self, shows that
 the image of the blissy giggling guru was just that: an image,
 a caricature, a stage illusion; most never knew the Real Reesh,
 the Grinch.

Actually it shows that he had more than one side to him, as
many of us do.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Double-Edged Sword

2011-07-28 Thread Tom Pall
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:38 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
 snip
  A close examination of Mahesh across time and from people who
  saw his on-stage persona and his off-stage self, shows that
  the image of the blissy giggling guru was just that: an image,
  a caricature, a stage illusion; most never knew the Real Reesh,
  the Grinch.

 Actually it shows that he had more than one side to him, as
 many of us do.


Maharishi had been considered for Mount Rushmore but the US Department of
the Interior/Parks Department surveyed and decided there was only room left
for one face.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Don't let Maharishi and the tmorg mislead you!

2011-07-28 Thread Ravi Yogi

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/28/2011 02:37 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008no_reply@  wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeebano_reply@  wrote:
  Nabby, you are cute.
  Thanks :-)
 
  You forgot to add ji after, like Maharishiji.
 
  I was never into the ji-thing because it indicated a distance. Even
long before Maharishi dropped the body some were excercising this
ji-sport. I don't know how he reacted to this, but I suspect he found it
foolish.
 
  You are welcome. Plenty of Indians have been referring to
Maharishiji as that. In fact, that is where I have heard it for years,
from the Indians.  Go figure.  The  M Vedic experts are all foolish,
because they add ji?  : )

 Ravi may want to chime in but ji is a bit like saying mister.  In
 some of the older US made movies made that took place in India (maybe
 Nine Hours to Rama) the Indians would say add mister after the
 person's name when speaking their pigeon English.  So it doesn't
confer
 anything but a title of respect like Mr.  Of course in our modern
times
 such conventions tend fall away as being too formal (sort of like
 putting Dear in the opening of an email).


Yes ji is a mark of respect, but Maharishi (great sage) is already
such a big title that a ji at the end is redundant and sounds a little
ridiculous. I would just stick ji after a person name than to titles
such as Maharishi but each to his own.


[FairfieldLife] Re: If TM were a drug?

2011-07-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
I have used Banyan Botanicals in the past.
They seem to have a product -
http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/prodinfo.asp?number=1271variation=aite\
m=3mitem=4
http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/prodinfo.asp?number=1271variation=ait\
em=3mitem=4 (It has Ashwagandha, the stress buster).
A good technique with herbs is to take them for 3 weeks and lay off for
a week. The good thing with Ayurvedic medicine is that they work very
gently, rejuvenate your body ability's to deal with the problem so you
can ultimately quit after a few months. Worked like a charm for my fatty
liver issues.
I hate going to sleep because I don't see any reason for it, once asleep
I hate getting up because I don't see any good reason for it either :-),
so I'm always late at work, glad I'm working though since I'm forced to
sleep and get up because of that.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@...
wrote:

 I may see an Ayurvedic practitioner. Â I am going to try Valerian
and the tribal mantra...definitely am of the pitta variety. Â Have
resorted to 1/2 an Ambien...which definitely puts you out...but it's
more like being knocked out, which is not the goal! Â I have no side
effects that I'm aware of in the AM however, so it's pretty tempting to
use. Â I've had some success with Melatonin but have to take a lot of
it.

 --- On Wed, 7/27/11, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:58 AM
















 Â









   Knowing some ayurveda is useful.  Insomnia is often related to a
vata

 imbalance though in summer excess pitta can cause it.  Cooling and

 calming herbs are useful.  Spearmint tea is cooling for pitta and

 somewhat calming for vata.  Comfrey is also a good tea to use.  Dr.

 Lad's vata tea consists of equal amounts of cumin, coriander and

 ginger.  But if pitta might be an issue reduce or omit the ginger. 
Even

 back in the 1980s I kept a bottle of valerian root tablets next to my

 bed to allay insomnia.  Ram is a calming mantra for vata.

 I've also successfully used this tribal mantra to bring on sleep:

 http://www.intentblog.com/archives/2007/02/health_tip_of_t_1.html



 On 07/27/2011 09:40 AM, Denise Evans wrote:

  Sleep deprivation is a chronic issue - does TM allow you to nap at
will?

 

  --- On Fri, 7/22/11, Vajvajradhatu@...  wrote:

 

  From: Vajvajradhatu@...

  Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] If TM were a drug?

  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

  Date: Friday, July 22, 2011, 5:00 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Tom Pall wrote:

  On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 6:27 AM,
cardemaisterno_re...@yahoogroups.com  wrote:

 

  If Transcendental Meditation were a drug, conferring so many

  benefits with few, if any, side effects, it would be a

  billion-dollar blockbuster.

 

  - Norman E. Rosenthal, Transcendence: Healing and Transformation
Through Transcendental Meditation

 

  Wiki:

 

  Rosenthal began a private practice in the suburbs of Washington,
D.C. in 1979.[2] At the same time he began a research fellowship with
Fredrick Goodwin at the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) in
Bethesda, Maryland. [3]This was the beginning of a 20 year career with
the NIMH as a Researcher, Research Fellow, and Senior Researcher.[2][4]
Rosenthal eventually became the director of seasonal studies at the
institute and in 1985 led research with 160 participants on the effects
of SAD and later studied the psycho-physiological phenomena of spring
fever. [5][6]

  If TM were a drug, it would be an unapproved one. First put in the

  market because of it's wonderful effects then quickly taken off the

  market because of its horrific side effects. This happens with drugs

  all the time as clinicians start noting dangerous side effects with
a

  wider population than in the studies, though many of the ontoward
side

  effects observed during clinical trials are swept under the rug.

 

  TM would be eventually be classified as a Schedule I drug in the US,

  with the ability to waste lives at least as often as heroin.

 

  There are dangerous drugs which are put on and kept on the market

  because although they have a profile where the dangerous side
effects

  are about as frequent as their useful properties, these drugs are

  prescribed in tightly monitored situations. That's not the situation

  with TM, where it's get everyone to buy it and many to use it 8
hours

  a day and if there's a problem, get more rest, take more time before

  going into activity after taking the drug, something good is
happening

  or it's the patient's fault, they weren't suitable for the drug.

  LOL!

  Actually, if TM were a drug there'd be massive lawsuits as it was
found out the research results were fudged and/or faked to exaggerate
the desire outcome.

  Sound crazy? This is actually what 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4-(was conflict in fiction)

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Price
Thanks for this, consider it done. 



Another hard day in the diamond mines.

For more see:

Rowing to Doha-Scene 5-(was conflict in fiction)



From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:31:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rowing to Doha-Scene 4-(was conflict in fiction)


  
Nice stuff, Bob. I'm not sure it'll play in Peoria,
but I'd watch it. Of course, I'm a confirmed eyepatch-
wearing pirate, so you wouldn't get any bucks from my
viewing of it, but it's the thought that counts. 

I do, however, have to warn you that you might be
venturing into dangerous ground in one section:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 Suddenly Dick spins around and his face is pressed 
 against the window. We hear the sound of cuffs tighteningshut.
 
 AGENT HAIRWELL
 And are you familiar with the Patriot Act 
 you dildo? 
 
 The Brunette runs toward Dick who's hands are cuffed 
 with his face being pressed against the 
 window by Agent Hairwell. 
 
 BRUNETTE
 
 You sexist pig.

Here you have used the forbidden and horribly sexist 
word dildo. By doing so, you risk someone not only 
obsessing on it for SIX YEARS, but trying to get 
others -- who were neither around that long ago or, 
more important, care -- to obsess on it, too. Watch 
your ass. Just sayin'. 

If I were you, I'd replace the word dildo with the
more politically correct personal vibrator, or even
better, use the brand name of a popular one, like
Oscillation Overthruster, or Your Buddy Burt. 
And whatever you do, never suggest that one could 
have feelings of its own, and choose to commit suicide 
rather than perform its intended function.

I fully expect script consultant credit in the final
film. No residuals, just credit. 

:-)


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: alternative theory regarding MZ

2011-07-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
Poor choice of words then. True, with your history you should definitely
have the understanding. Like Ammachi would say most in spirituality have
the knowledge, it's the awarenes (as in being a Sakshi or a witness)
that is lacking.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:

 Thank you, Ravi, for your kind words.  And I will take you at your
word about the condescension.  But, if I remember correctly, that email
already had in it as I've already explained and how could someone with
my history possibly not thoroughly understand the Satguru principle?

 On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:44 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:

  the self-same principle that Ravi was (condescendingly, I must say,
(it takes one to know one)) trying to explain to me way back when.
 
 
  Mark, I have been (intentionally) condescending to others (low
vibe writer types) but not when I was responding to you, sorry if it
appeared otherwise. Your heart-centeredness  became evident to me as you
posted more. A beautiful post BTW.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mark Landau m@... wrote:
  
   Yes, Jim (how long does it take, here, to put names to email
addresses?), I, too, find this true and beautiful, with one possible
exception. The heart, the true heart (IME, E  U), has no need
whatsoever for story gratification. The true heart, the lion heart, is a
far better organ of perception/knower than the mind. It's the heart, or
hearts, of the inner frozen children that need constant soothing, the
heart, if you will, of the ego complex, of our woundedness and our
pain, or I guess one could say, and perhaps more simply and truly, and,
in so doing dissolve this exception, the wounded parts of our heart.
It's the stories that are the defense mechanisms that help us in our
long, misguided efforts to keep our pain away. Of course, this may not
apply to MZ, or any other particular individual, but, I believe, it
applies to most of us.
  
   What may more aptly apply to MZ (for all the profound things that
have occurred between us, and, yes, they truly are profound, just how
much so I have yet to see, I really do not yet know him well, as I have
not had the time to follow his suggestion and read all that he has
written here, nor do I think I will need to) is that he is using his
intellect to sincerely advance his spiritual growth through the towering
edifice created by the west's paramount religious institution (at least
in terms of it's effect on the west) and, yes, some of the world's
purest souls and highest thinkers (perhaps I will have to look into
Aquinas), combined with the highly developed qualities of his intuition
(for me, there's something I call inner knowing that is distinct from
and goes beyond intuition). How many have spent lifetimes lost in this
structure (of course, he would know they are not lost but are getting
found, and, perhaps, the only ones getting found)? We agree, I think,
that the mind, the intellect, no matter how developed and pure must
always fall short of true knowing. The truth of things is unfathomable
and better known by the heart. To know it one must lay the mind and
everything else aside and become it. To do this, one must put oneself
through whatever it takes to strip everything else away and become the
truly, truly, truly empty vessel.
  
   And, to this: the universe within us will never accept any story
as the the ultimate truth, I would add that the Satguru, God and the
universe, both the universe within and without (which you all may, of
course, have already agreed are one, though I still find it useful to
distinguish them) and, sometimes, the good guru, will totally knock the
shit out of us, if we force it/him/her to, the self-same principle that
Ravi was (condescendingly, I must say, (it takes one to know one))
trying to explain to me way back when.
  
 
 
 




[FairfieldLife] Rowing to Doha-Scene 5-(was conflict in fiction)

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Price
INT. SPACECRAFT HOVERING OVER THE BOWMAN RESIDENCE (IN AN IOWA CORNFIELD)



Through the spacecraft window, from Maharishi's POV, we see Terry on the back 
of  The Zebra who looks like a 
Unicorn (hell, lets just call him a Zebra Unicorn)  floating in the air. The 
Zebra Unicorn is starting to look a little fatigued
and he and Terry are starting to BOB up and down as if they may fall from the 
sky. Maharishi sees this and points to his right.
They don't seem to understand so he picks up a pad and writes the following:

'Head for the door over there before your fool asses fall out of the sky.'

The Zebra Unicorn fly's through the door and lands on the spacecraft deck as a 
wall closes behind them. Terry

jumps off the Zebra Unicorn and takes hold of the Zebra Unicorns horn and 
unscrews it. He turn it
over and a small electronic devise falls out. He then kicks off one of his 
wooden shoes and slides a 
compartment open and drops in the electronic devise into the compartment, 
closes it and put the 
shoe back on his foot. He takes a pirate eye patch out of his pocket and puts 
it on.
He quickly screws the unicorn horn back on its owner and leans over and says:

Not a word

The inner wall slides open to reveal Maharishi standing in a flood of bright 
light.

Maharishi
Jai Guru Dev.

Terry
Yo, Jai Guru Dev yourself.

NNand Shankarare standing beside Maharishi, we hear Wally
snoring in the background.

NN
Maharishi, what happened to your accent, you sound American.

Maharishi
Of course I sound American, everyone sounds American up here.
At least I can pronounce Peseta now.

NN

Maharishi, don't let them in.

Maharishi
Why not?

NN 
They're polluters of the teaching.

Maharishi
Nonsense, the only thing polluting anything around here is Wally's snoring.

Maharishi (con't)
I have a mission for you and it will take all of you to get it done. Go get a 
coke
for Terry and some hay for the Zebra Unicorn.

Terry looks at Maharishi feet.

Maharishi
Where's Mark?

Terry
No idea, why?

Maharishi
My sandals, I need some sandals. These floors are made of platinum
and they're as cold as Ron L. Hubbard's heart. 

Maharishi (con't)
Every skin boy I ever had walked off with a pair of my sandals-
like it was some sort of pension or something. John
B and Johnny G both got a pair, I think Billy C may have got
two and I think John C got a half dozen and may have
turned a couple into a guitar. I need some sandals!

Terry kicks off his wooden clogs.

Terry
Try these puppies, I picked them up in Amsterdam. Nothing finer.

Maharishi try'son the wooden clogs. A big smile spreads across his
face.

Maharishi
Terry these are fine, I had no idea.

Terry
They're yours, compliments of the Zebra and me.

Maharishi looks over at the Zebra Unicorn. Walks over and starts rubbing his 
ears. 

CLOSE UP: on the Zebra Unicorns face, we see a small tear roll slowing down his 
face.

Maharishi
Ah yes, the Zebra, you've been a bit naughty haven't you?

The Zebra Unicorn looks in Maharishi's eyes longingly and then takes a deep
bow like the finest lipizzanhorse.

Maharishi (con't)

Not to worry I have a job for you that will change the world. Now come.

CUT TO:
The inner sanctum of the spacecraft is crowded  with memorabilia. There is a 
statue of Hans Solo,
and large reproductions of  Princess Leia, R2D2 and C-3PO. A stuffed YODA sits 
in an honoured 
place. On the wall is a large blow up of an 18 year old Penelope Cruz. On the 
control panel is a old CD
player. Around a large table sit; Shankar, NN, Terry and Wally (who is asleep 
and snoring). Maharishi
sits at the head of the table rubbing the Zebra Unicorn head. He has a blissful 
expression on hi face as he stares
at his new wooden clogs.

Maharishi
NN, you are absolutely right.

NN
About what Maharishiji?


Maharishi 
Don't call me that, its what you call 
someone in India when you're trying
to sell them something.

NN
I'm sorry your Divinity.

Maharishi
Now you're being silly.
Call me Maharishi or the 
Rish as Terry likes to call me.

NN
Sorry, Maharishi, what could I have 
possibiliy been right about?

Maharishi
The Age of Enlightment, you're 
absolutely right. Its here and nothing
will turn it back.

Maharishi
There is just one thing that we need to get
rid of and to do that I need the 5 of you to go to 
the Emirate of Qatar, more specifically 
I need you to Row to Doha.

NN
What's the one last thing we need to get rid of.

Maharishi
Democracy!

And out of the old CD player comes the most heavenly recitation of 
the most profound poetry ever heard by the intrepid seekers.

Ash-hadu anna Muħammadan rasulullah

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-07-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:16 PM, FFL PostCount wrote:

 Fairfield Life Post Counter
 ===
 Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 23 00:00:00 2011
 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 30 00:00:00 2011
 784 messages as of (UTC) Fri Jul 29 00:08:06 2011
 
 50 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
 50 authfriend jst...@panix.com

Isn't today Thursday?
And didn't Judy post 3 more
over the limit?
Hmmm~~dum, de dum dum... :)

Sal



Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-07-28 Thread Bob Price
Did you watch THE LITTLE RASCALS (reruns of course) as a child?



From: Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:21:13 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count


  
On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:16 PM, FFL PostCount wrote:

 Fairfield Life Post Counter
 ===
 Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 23 00:00:00 2011
 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 30 00:00:00 2011
 784 messages as of (UTC) Fri Jul 29 00:08:06 2011
 
 50 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
 50 authfriend jst...@panix.com

Isn't today Thursday?
And didn't Judy post 3 more
over the limit?
Hmmm~~dum, de dum dum... :)

Sal


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Congratulations. You have realized enlightenment. Now leave.

2011-07-28 Thread Ravi Yogi
I think there would be 2 options - one, it would be the time for the
enlightened person to fall out from the organization. If they are
charismatic enough and have teaching samskaras then they can start
giving Satsangs and such, I have seen quite a few on batgap.
Two - continue the same old drama. But be cautious in divulging the
details publicly and hopefully one can slowly gain the trust of one
individual at a time, share their experience and hopefully inspire them.
It could be helpful to others on the same path, practicing similar
meditation techniques, with similar Guru that similar state is possible
for them as well.
The above two options seem to be a good idea. Most in an org would take
very unkindly to a person like this, since this can be very upsetting to
them and can result in a lot of  negativity, along with what you say,
ridicule by others. Most are caught up in the seeker story, seeker
auto-pilot for the rest of their lives.
I actually don't think there is much value in any org celebrating or
recognizing this individual because I don't think that this individual
would care for anyone's acknowledgment. Plus I believe that
enlightenment cannot be judged in others, it is upto that individual to
declare it. This is the biggest problem I had with MZ's story about how
everyone could recognize his UC and how he was bitch slapping the
unenlightened around.
 Saying all of this, I apologize in advance to those to whom I have
given
 offense in the past by challenging *their* claims of having realized
the
 Big E. I may not have believed your claims at the time, and may in
fact
 not believe them now, but I *do* respect you having gone public with
 them. As does Rick, or he wouldn't be doing his BATGAP series.
Thanks Barry, that's quite an admission and I certainly wasn't expecting
it :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Mind-segueing from my previous cafe rap, I find my self realizing that
 an even better measure of where the rubber meets the road in a
spiritual
 organization might be how it treats those who have realized its goal,
 and dare to say so.

 I submit that this is an interesting topic, Robin and others who have
 dared to say so being among us.

 How were they treated by the organization that had promised
 enlightenment to its followers (not to mention...uh...financial
 supporters) for many decades? Was their attainment of the goal
 celebrated and their testimony added to the WhyYouShouldLearnTM.com
Web
 page? Or were they instantly marginalized and/or ostracized?

 It's an interesting question, isn't it?

 Those of you who have dared to say so, either on this forum or
within
 the cloistered halls of the TM movement, do you care to comment? How
 were you treated?

 Those of you who never mentioned your personal realization within
those
 same cloistered halls, but only on forums such as this one, why did
you
 make that choice? What did you expect would be the response from
within
 the cloistered halls to your proclamation, that prevented you from
 making it?

 Honestly curious, and I will do my best to avoid any samskaras that
 tempt me to poke fun where it might be misinterpreted in response. I
 really don't know, because although I have experienced the occasional
 period of time spent in enlightened (or, at the very least, not
 ordinary) states of consciousness, I was never tempted to go public
 with them, and thus never had to risk the potential wrath of the
public.

 Saying all of this, I apologize in advance to those to whom I have
given
 offense in the past by challenging *their* claims of having realized
the
 Big E. I may not have believed your claims at the time, and may in
fact
 not believe them now, but I *do* respect you having gone public with
 them. As does Rick, or he wouldn't be doing his BATGAP series.

 I guess my point in this cafe rap -- if I have one, other than just to
 rap -- is What was that decision to 'go public' LIKE for you? Did you
 feel some reticence in doing so? If so, WHY did you feel that
 reticence? It's an interesting question, n'est-ce pas?




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington - no not you Tom

2011-07-28 Thread Denise Evans
Of course I wasn't calling you that...I was actually calling myself that.  
Politics is difficult and depressing and crazy-making - and I make myself crazy 
at times if I delve too far into the mania.  Your opinion is certainly as valid 
as mine and likely more so (I do not have my bibliography to post online.  I am 
feeling like I am wasting precious time in life by allowing the politics to 
affect me at all in this reactive way. 
I needed some exercise - went for a long swim and my brain is functioning again 
and feeling  more optimistic.  I get depressed - I'm heading into the big M 
(and no, that is not M for Maharishi).  It's a brave new world on all fronts. 
If I don't get exercise, life looks a lot bleaker.  
And no, I don't want to pay your property taxes - I just found out mine are the 
highest in the neighborhood!  Must be because I stupidly told the assessor 
about the renovations I'd done when I moved in - I've been paying higher taxes 
for years.  It's endless.  This is why I get so annoyed about corporate 
america's aversion to paying their fair share - I do.

--- On Thu, 7/28/11, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: #f@ckyouwashington
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 6:08 PM















 
 



  



  
  
  On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com 
wrote:













 





I ask myself, why bother with acting like an ignorant pundit?  I choose to 
retreat from here and spend my time on staying alive.  Survival is a basic 
instinct, afterall.



Well, you also have the choice of being an ignorant feminazi and instead of 
having a single original thought, post URLs and what they've read in HuffPost 
and other online rags.


You've written some things here that amazed me.  So well articulated, so well 
reasoned, so well thought out that I composed a couple of posts asking you to 
give the attribution of the source you copied your words from, since except for 
bitching, there's next to no articulated cogent writing on politics here that's 
original.  I googled and was amazed to find that I couldn't find what you had 
written anywhere except in FFL.  Amazing.


BTW, if you were calling me an ignorant pundit, well when you start paying my 
property taxes, I'll let you guide my life a bit.  Maybe even a FF like life 
coach, which according to the last US census, was the stated profession of 80% 
of all ru women in FF.  Otherwise, I'll assume you were talking about our 
feminazis and not me.