[FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute
Oh friends, not these tones! Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing And more joyful sounds! Joy! (Joy!) So lets the active and lurking 1160 or so member of FFL sing together with Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join with our 10 000 amateur chorus singers Far Eastern brother/sister/friends in this moving tribute to all the victims of the Fukushima disaster. Let's join in this a strikingDaiku environment(Daiku suggests a relationship to the word haiku but with digital shorts- a portal between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic component) and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, conducted by a student of my friend Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved Karajan http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 Joy, beautiful spark of the gods* Daughter of Elysium, We enter, drunk with fire, Heavenly one, your sanctuary! Your magic reunites What custom's sword strictly divided. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls PS *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great bosom of nature. No thought can go so far... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response
[FairfieldLife] 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...
Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it: The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'... This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of C.C. When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'... Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra... Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C. and U.C. to continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of the Surface Values at the Same Time'... This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent, Unmanifest and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness... Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of 'Maintaining the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing the Fluctions of Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the non-linear sense of time, the vertical sense of space, the feeling of the Prana coming in and going out, the flow of life within and without All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'... Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time... Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'... This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in the 'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent Intellect that is always in the 'Flow of the Divine'... Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ It's Only Love'..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNYJ3g3KbA0feature=related
[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ Girl'..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVr_6kE1vio
[FairfieldLife] The Beatles - If I Fell (HQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPKYPI1jjdgfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ I'm Happy Just to Dance With YOu'..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YitKiVZ8E
[FairfieldLife] Brahma Sutras~ Chap. 1 section 1 synopsis
This sec tion gives a bird's-eye view of the sub ject dealt with in the Brahma Sutras namely the na ture of the Su preme Brah man or the High est Self, of the in di vid ual soul and the uni verse and their inter-re - la tions and gives hints on med i ta tion on Brah man. Adhikarana I: Su tra 1 gives a hint that the book is meant for those who are en dowed with a real de sire for at tain ing the knowl edge of Brah man. Adhikarana II: Su tra 2 de fines Brah man as that whence the world orig i nates etc. Adhikarana III: Su tra 3 de clares that Brah man is the source of the Vedas and that Brah man is known only by the study of Sruti and by no other means of knowl edge. Adhikarana IV: Su tra 4 proves Brah man to be the uni form topic of all Vedanta texts. Adhikarana V: Sutras 5 to 11 show that none but Brah man is ad - mit ted by Sruti to be the cause of the world. They prove by var i ous co - gent and con vinc ing ar gu ments that the Brah man which the Vedantic texts pro claim as the cause of the uni verse is an in tel li gent prin ci ple, and can not be iden ti fied with the non-in tel li gent or in sen tient Pradhana from which the world orig i nates, as de clared by the Sankhyas. Adhikarana VI: Sutras 12 to 19 raise the ques tion whether the `Anandamaya' in Taittiriya Upanishad II-5 is merely the in di vid ual soul or the Su preme Self. The Sutras show that Brah man is All-Bliss and that by the term `Anandamaya' in Sruti is meant nei ther the in di vid ual soul, nor the Pradhana of Sankhyas. The Sutras prove that they all de scribe none but Brah man. Adhikarana VII: Sutras 20 and 21, show that the golden per son seen within the sun and the per son seen within the eye men tioned in Chh. Up. I-6 are not some in di vid ual soul of high em i nence, but the high est Brah man or the Su preme Self. Adhikarana VIII: Su tra 22 shows that the ether (Akasa) from which ac cord ing to Chh. Up. I-9 all be ings orig i nate, is not the el e - men tal ether but the Su preme Brah man. Adhikarana IX: Su tra 23 shows that Prana, also men tioned in Chh. Up. I-11-15 is the Su preme Brah man. Adhikarana X: Sutras 24 to 27 teach that the light spo ken of in Chh. Up. III-13-7 is not the or di nary phys i cal light but the Su preme Brah man. Adhikarana XI: Sutras 28 to 31 de cide that the Prana men tioned in Kau. Up. III-2 is Brah man.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
NASA timed this landing perfectly along with the Olympics. They won the gold medal tonight, and rightfully so! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Man, that was fun to watch. What a bunch of ecstatically happy folks. I've never seen so many people hugging so many other people. There must have been 10 minutes straight of hugs and high-fives after they got the first telemetry back that Curiosity had landed safely. Wonderful headline on the NYTimes Lede live blog of the landing, on the item explaining that it takes 14 minutes for the data to get from Mars back to earth, so they didn't know the landing was successful until 14 minutes later: Whatever Has Happened Has Already Happened. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Cheers! http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html
[FairfieldLife] 'Mantra by Swami R'
Use of Mantra · chanting mantra aloud · chanting mantra internally more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · parrot-like repetition · repetition with feeling more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · repeating mantra with conscious willpower · allowing mantra to arise and repeat itself more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · intentionally repeating mantra fast · allowing mantra to come at its own speed more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · with mala (using the active senses) · without mala (not using the active senses) more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · counting mantras · not counting mantras more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · mantra as word/meaning · mantra as a feeling · mantra as constant awareness · mantra as soundless sound, silence more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · not allowing mantra to lead you to silence · allowing mantra to lead you to silence more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · internally speaking or reciting the mantra · internally listening to or remembering the mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · pushing away thoughts with mantra · allowing thoughts to go through the mind before remembering the mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · approach that japa means reciting mantra · approach that japa means listening to mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · approach that ajapa japa means automatic repetition of mantra · approach that ajapa japa means constant awareness of mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) 25 20.12.97 SRmisc1 The subtle aspects of mantra A mantra has four bodies or koshas (sheaths). First, as a word, it has a meaning; another more subtle form is its feeling; still more subtle is a deep, intense and constant awareness or presence, and the fourth or most subtle level of the mantra is soundless sound. Many students continue repeating or muttering their mantra throughout life, but they never attain a state of ajapa japathe state of constant awareness without any effort. Such a student strengthens his awareness, but meditates on the gross level only. The Art of Joyful Living, p. 231 Mantra should be repeated with meaning and feeling; parrot-like repetition is not of much use. Repeating mantra merely with the rosary [mala] and tongue is a very inferior sadhana. It won't do merely to complete a given count Book of Wisdom, p. 33 To go to the subtler aspect of mantra, then you, like the sages, must go to the silence. You go to the silence, you go to the silence, you go to the silence. Path of Fire and Light, Vol. II, pp. 140, 164 My way of using the mantra is different from yours, because I do not want to fool around with the process. I sit down, and I observe my whole being listening to the mantra. I do not remember the mantra or repeat the mantra mentally, because then the mind repeats many things. Instead I make my whole being an ear to hear the mantra, and the mantra is coming from everywhere. This will not happen to you immediately in meditation, but when you have attained or accomplished something, then this will happen to you. The Art of Joyful Living, pp. 127-128 Clearing the clouded mind The mind usually remains clouded, confused, and undisciplined in the external world, where everything seems to move and change. Because the mind itself is confused, even learning how to collect data correctly, or accurately perceive the external world, is a serious problem. For meditators, it becomes possible to collect the data and impressions exactly as they are. Such a person sees things clearly, while in contrast, the clouded mind remains distorted and dissipated. Meditation and Its Practice, pp. 91-92 When the senses are untrained, they will give you distorted input and that creates constant confusion within. If you have accepted that there is confusion in your mind, and if you understand that, then nothing will lead you astray. But if you don't have that understanding, and if you enjoy that confusion, then your mind will create chaos within. That confuses you even more, and there will be no end to your confusion. The Art of Joyful Living, p. 163 Purifying buddhi is the most important task Saucha means cleanliness and purity, both of the body and the mind. Purity of the body is easily practiced, but purity of the mind needs a sincere, honest, and constant effort. And once purity of mind is attained, then one is fully prepared for the inner voyage. To achieve this state, one should cultivate constant awareness by being mindful all the time. To purify the buddhi, or the faculty of discrimination is the most important task. When one remains always aware of one's thoughts and learns to discriminate between pure and impure thoughts, helpful and disturbing thoughts, he develops the sense of determination and strengthens his will, and thus does not allow the seeds of impure thoughts to grow within.
[FairfieldLife] Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: Use of Mantra · chanting mantra aloud · chanting mantra internally more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · parrot-like repetition · repetition with feeling more external (gross) more internal (subtle) Yee-haw! Prolly one of the most informative posts I've ever read on FFL! :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'
'The Soundless Sound of the Mantra, Is the Beginning of the Understanding and the Experience of Brahm'. This 'Wholeness of Awareness' is called 'Brahm'... Brahm is All That There Is...Wholeness is Brahm... This Brahm is Atma... All this Brahm...All This Wholeness is Atma is the Unlimited Soul of the Creator, Brahm'... All This Wholeness of Brahm in my awareness... Allows Brahman Consciousness to be more lively in the 'Collective Consciousness of Humanity'... Brahman Consciousness is 'All That There Is'...nothing is 'Excluded'... Therefore, any thought, emotion, intellectual understanding/perception, ah ha experience of wholenss, is how 'Brahman Consciousnes Becomes Established'... It takes some time, to extablish Brahman Consciousness... It takes some time to allow the wholenss to penetrate all that there is... It's an alowing process, and little by little, the 'Unbounded Awaresess Begins to Overtake the Bounded Emotions, Perceptions, Understandings of the Intellect' and so the 'Final Step Toward Full Enlightenment' comes through continued practice of 'Maintaining the Witnessing Self-Referral Awareness'...along with awareness of boundaries...and thus more and more, allow Beingness to Overflow Throughout this Creation in this space and in this time... Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'
SWAMI R not unknown to FFL since he spent a considerable portion of his life teaching, specifically in the United States and Europe. Swami Rama (Brij Kishore Dhasmana)Shankaracharya of Karvirpitham(From 1949 to 1952)his teachers Bengali Baba, who is disciple of Mahavatar Baba, known as Babaji. Book quoted from www.swamij.com/pdf/swamiramateachings.pdf www.swamij.com/pdf/swamiramateachings.pdf Be happy and fearless. Remember that you are a child of Divinity. Loss and gain cannot even touch your shadow. http://www.sonofaswami.com/bioSwamiRama.html http://www.sonofaswami.com/bioSwamiRama.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: Use of Mantra · chanting mantra aloud · chanting mantra internally more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · parrot-like repetition · repetition with feeling more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · repeating mantra with conscious willpower · allowing mantra to arise and repeat itself more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · intentionally repeating mantra fast · allowing mantra to come at its own speed more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · with mala (using the active senses) · without mala (not using the active senses) more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · counting mantras · not counting mantras more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · mantra as word/meaning · mantra as a feeling · mantra as constant awareness · mantra as soundless sound, silence more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · not allowing mantra to lead you to silence · allowing mantra to lead you to silence more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · internally speaking or reciting the mantra · internally listening to or remembering the mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · pushing away thoughts with mantra · allowing thoughts to go through the mind before remembering the mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · approach that japa means reciting mantra · approach that japa means listening to mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) · approach that ajapa japa means automatic repetition of mantra · approach that ajapa japa means constant awareness of mantra more external (gross) more internal (subtle) 25 20.12.97 SRmisc1 The subtle aspects of mantra A mantra has four bodies or koshas (sheaths). First, as a word, it has a meaning; another more subtle form is its feeling; still more subtle is a deep, intense and constant awareness or presence, and the fourth or most subtle level of the mantra is soundless sound. Many students continue repeating or muttering their mantra throughout life, but they never attain a state of ajapa japathe state of constant awareness without any effort. Such a student strengthens his awareness, but meditates on the gross level only. The Art of Joyful Living, p. 231 Mantra should be repeated with meaning and feeling; parrot-like repetition is not of much use. Repeating mantra merely with the rosary [mala] and tongue is a very inferior sadhana. It won't do merely to complete a given count Book of Wisdom, p. 33 To go to the subtler aspect of mantra, then you, like the sages, must go to the silence. You go to the silence, you go to the silence, you go to the silence. Path of Fire and Light, Vol. II, pp. 140, 164 My way of using the mantra is different from yours, because I do not want to fool around with the process. I sit down, and I observe my whole being listening to the mantra. I do not remember the mantra or repeat the mantra mentally, because then the mind repeats many things. Instead I make my whole being an ear to hear the mantra, and the mantra is coming from everywhere. This will not happen to you immediately in meditation, but when you have attained or accomplished something, then this will happen to you. The Art of Joyful Living, pp. 127-128 Clearing the clouded mind The mind usually remains clouded, confused, and undisciplined in the external world, where everything seems to move and change. Because the mind itself is confused, even learning how to collect data correctly, or accurately perceive the external world, is a serious problem. For meditators, it becomes possible to collect the data and impressions exactly as they are. Such a person sees things clearly, while in contrast, the clouded mind remains distorted and dissipated. Meditation and Its Practice, pp. 91-92 When the senses are untrained, they will give you distorted input and that creates constant confusion within. If you have accepted that there is confusion in your mind, and if you understand that, then nothing will lead you astray. But if you don't have that understanding, and if you enjoy that confusion, then your mind will create chaos within. That confuses you even more, and there will be no end to your confusion. The Art of Joyful
[FairfieldLife] 'The Pretenders~Live Aid/1985/Middle of the Road'...
'Look for Jack Nickelson as end of tape' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjUavQeWG9A
[FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look bad? 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb turq and turqy, again almost as if you were very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this forum by his detractors. How did you know all this? 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling better and a little more sane now? I hope so. 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned or both) that set you off and caused you to embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular practice of TM cause (as one person suggested) some roughness of awareness? Does this happen to you often? 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and I really hope you come back to visit us soon, and after having imbibed in the same substances that inspired you last time. As I said before, the more often that long-term TM practitioners such as yourself *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has done for them, and what balanced and happy individuals they've become as a result, the more new people will learn TM. Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...
[FairfieldLife] USA in bolt?
Are Obama and, say, Usain Bolt the first symptoms of a possible future Afro-American rule of the world? :D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in his youth, was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the Indian Navy as a youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and became a great Yogi and then exited as he made someone else exitthrough murder. He was a soldier and killed many people, that's not murder in the ususal meaning of the world.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...
Not some lecture that I was privy to... Did he perchance say what the signs of this time were when you come to the end of practice? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote: Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it: The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'... This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of C.C. When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'... Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra... Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C. and U.C. to continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of the Surface Values at the Same Time'... This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent, Unmanifest and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness... Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of 'Maintaining the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing the Fluctions of Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the non-linear sense of time, the vertical sense of space, the feeling of the Prana coming in and going out, the flow of life within and without All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'... Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time... Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'... This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in the 'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent Intellect that is always in the 'Flow of the Divine'... Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Speaking of posting while intoxicated... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look bad? 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb turq and turqy, again almost as if you were very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this forum by his detractors. How did you know all this? 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling better and a little more sane now? I hope so. 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned or both) that set you off and caused you to embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular practice of TM cause (as one person suggested) some roughness of awareness? Does this happen to you often? 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and I really hope you come back to visit us soon, and after having imbibed in the same substances that inspired you last time. As I said before, the more often that long-term TM practitioners such as yourself *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has done for them, and what balanced and happy individuals they've become as a result, the more new people will learn TM. Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Footprint in South Africa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Oh that's BS. Lucy carved that as a practicle joke. From: John jr_esq@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giant Footprint in South Africa  It could be millions of years old. If true, who were they? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpNR=1v=dRuxw-nZoJw Mr. Klaus Dona (German??) reveals the one inconsistency in the footprint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qZnieFvNsfeature=relmfu
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'... NBD, but there might be such a word in *transliterated* Hindi, whilst certainly not in Sanskrit, where the proper spelling of the neuter nominative / accusative form of that word (without sandhi) is 'brahma', as in brahma-suutras ayam aatmaa brahma sarvaM khalvidaM (khalu + idam) brahma ahaM brahmaasmi (brahma + asmi), etc. http://translate.google.fi/#hi/en/%E0%A4%AC%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: NASA timed this landing perfectly Disagree! They should have scheduled the landing at least three hours earlier so that it would happen before my bedtime. In any event, it was great to wake up to good news this morning.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...
see Swami Rama [:D] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R' http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316301 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Not some lecture that I was privy to... Did he perchance say what the signs of this time were when you come to the end of practice? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it: The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'... This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of C.C. When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'... Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra... Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C. and U.C. to continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of the Surface Values at the Same Time'... This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent, Unmanifest and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness... Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of 'Maintaining the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing the Fluctions of Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the non-linear sense of time, the vertical sense of space, the feeling of the Prana coming in and going out, the flow of life within and without All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'... Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time... Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'... This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in the 'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent Intellect that is always in the 'Flow of the Divine'... Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Footprint in South Africa
http://www.michaeltellinger.com/video-clips.php http://www.michaeltellinger.com/video-clips.php http://www.cmn.tv/videos/michael-tellinger-on-cnbc-africa-7-may-2012-con\ stitutional-court-case/ http://www.cmn.tv/videos/michael-tellinger-on-cnbc-africa-7-may-2012-co\ nstitutional-court-case/ Adam's Calendar Ancient Ruins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l7EJkTa3EY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l7EJkTa3EY --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Oh that's BS. Lucy carved that as a practicle joke. From: John jr_esq@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 2:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giant Footprint in South Africa  It could be millions of years old. If true, who were they? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpNR=1v=dRuxw-nZoJw Mr. Klaus Dona (German??) reveals the one inconsistency in the footprint: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qZnieFvNsfeature=relmfu
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
Sad but predictable consequence of the Curiosity landing: [http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg] http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
So many ways to be intoxicated... From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 5:16 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman Speaking of posting while intoxicated... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look bad? 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb turq and turqy, again almost as if you were very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this forum by his detractors. How did you know all this? 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling better and a little more sane now? I hope so. 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned or both) that set you off and caused you to embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular practice of TM cause (as one person suggested) some roughness of awareness? Does this happen to you often? 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and I really hope you come back to visit us soon, and after having imbibed in the same substances that inspired you last time. As I said before, the more often that long-term TM practitioners such as yourself *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has done for them, and what balanced and happy individuals they've become as a result, the more new people will learn TM. Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Susan wrote: I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate). MMY claimed in his last interview with Larry King on CCN to be a monk.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
On Aug 5, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in his youth, was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the Indian Navy as a youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and became a great Yogi and then exited as he made someone else exitthrough murder. Yes, I remember hearing this story.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ganapati Sthapati dead
Dr. J, thank you for posting as I wasn't on FFL last year. Wonderful to read his interview. Share PS in spirit of Loren and Hepburn: everything you see I owe to baby bok choy and toasted peanut butter and jelly sandwiches (-: From: Dr. Jessie jmer...@vastu2vaastu.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 7:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ganapati Sthapati dead We will be approaching the anniversary of the death of my teacher of Vaastu Shastras next month- Dr. V. Ganapati Sthapati. Each January I would visit Sthapati in Chennai and study with him. Without fail later in the month I would walk into his office and he would be speaking on the phone with Maharishi who had just called Sthapati the moment before I walked in. It was uncanny. Even nearing the last year of his life Maharishi would call him. It was really wonderful to listen to these two men speak together. They both had the same goal: the well being of humanity. Sthapati's family is one of the oldest living families who have passed down Vaastu Shastras in its purity for several thousand years. I miss Sthapati and Maharishi. Two of the greatest beings of our times. Thanks for making the below post last year. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote: He was given the highest honor from Maharishi as the greatest living authority but they did not work together much and their systems of Vaastu differ in some respects. Here is an interview in which he credits Vaastu with prolonging his life beyond what was predicted by Jyotish. http://www.sify.com/news/i-escaped-death-because-of-vaastu-ganapati-sthapati-news-features-jixmfkhcdae.html Everything you see I owe to spaghetti. Sophie Loren What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of chocolate. A pound a day often. Katharine Hepburn
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
Garfield?! no no it cannot be true! Say it isn't so... From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 6:17 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed! Sad but predictable consequence of the Curiosity landing: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong!
[FairfieldLife] FF temps finally lower than Eureka/Humboldt (-:
Hi Marek, according to weather we're at 52, you all at 57. Yah! Autumn in the air. Well, at least this morning (-:
[FairfieldLife] Mitt just can't help himself
Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in modern politics: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\ 41787_1944288480_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Boy, did you ever. You better take an anatomy lesson and realize the vagina doesn't create anything, and certainly not babies! Think of it more as a slippery slope.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'
Robert: Use of Mantra... The Aryan-speakers brought 'Mantra Yoga' to South Asia before 1500 BCE, but 'bija' mantras came much later, after the rise of the bhakti sects. Bija mantras do not occur in the Vedas or in the Brahma Sutra. At some point, we all are going to have to face the historical facts: the bija mantras used in both Tantric Buddhism and in Hindu Yoga are made-up sounds that are found in any common household, heard around the house every day, or from the sounds found in nature. Bija mantras are NOT revealed or cognized or 'seen' by the monad or by some mythical 'rishi'. All mantric practices stem from the ancient shamnistic practice of Oddiyana, that is, Buddhists of Trans-Himalya, hence to India. The Mantrayna was adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva and Vaishanava sects as Hindu tantricism following the Gupta Age. For example, the bija mantra 'phat' is called the astral 'weapon' bija used as an aggressive mantra from the earliest times. The sound of phat, to the Indian ear, conveys the sensation of explosion. According to Bharati, in Hindi, 'phat' is a very common colloquial household term for 'burst, explode', in both intransitive and transitive use, as in a two wheeled, two-stroke, motorized rickshaw, thus a 'phata phata'! From this, a causative verb is formed. The motor-cycle rickshaw in Delhi is called 'phat phata' by its drivers; phatki is a fire-cracker. Once a syllable like this has been accepted into esoteric usage, analogous syllables will readily follow, such as a nickname for God, as in Agnihotra, i.e., fire from the root 'hot'. If the onomatopoetic datum can be linked with part of a meaningful morpheme, a more complex mantra would grow of their combination (116). Phat: (pronounced 'fot') phoneme; Buddhist Hybrid Sanskrit; causative verb? 1. crack! 2. snap! 3. pop! 4. Meaningless sound. 5. gibberish. 6. bija mantra - sometimes referred to as the weapon mantra also, in that it destroys obstacles. Read more: http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/ Works cited: 'The Tantric Tradition' by Swami Ageananda Bharati Rider, 1965
[FairfieldLife] Beautiful Crop Circle in the USA
Geibs' fields near Wilbur. Washington. Reported 24th July Map Ref: This Page has been accessed [Hit Counter] Updated Monday 6th August 2012 AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS DIAGRAMS FIELD REPORTS ARTICLES All aerial Images Rod Hoekstra Copyright 2012 Kite Aerial Photography of Crop Circles, near Wilbur, Washington, USA, Aug 2, 2012 I am extremely excited to present these kite aerial photography images of crop circles in Eastern Washington. Last night I came across a news story that said that crop circles had shown up in a fairly remote part of the state, and I thought about it all night and this morning after getting a few things done in Seattle I threw my KAP kit together and drove east. The drive was about 4 hours, and I had no idea if I was going to get good wind, good lighting conditions, or even whether or not the farmer had already harvested the field. I was extremely fortunate in that everything worked out perfectly, and I got this and several other good images. Crop circles in Washington are quite rare, this is the third one in roughly the same area in about as many years. Personal opinions about how these are formed varied a great deal with the people I spoke with in the area. When I arrived someone was just leaving and muttering about microwave radiation. Others were convinced young kids had done it, and one person thought the farmers themselves had done it. Regardless, I was very excited to have the opportunity to see crop circles, something I've never been able to see before in my life. All aerial Images Rod Hoekstra Copyright 2012 The wind conditions were very good, a little bit of variability, but not much. At one point the wind died completely, I had to haul in my quite very quickly in order to not land it in unmolested wheat, and when I was able to launch it again later the wind direction had shifted. There are close up blurry photos of trampled wheat during that segment. Kite Aerial Photography Group Technical Details: 6' Rok Kite Canon S90, using CHDK Brooxes Simplex Rig http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you Washington farm is the latest site of mysterious crop circles `We had aliens attack us you know, I guess,' farmer Greg Geib says with a laugh. By Anthony Bartkewicz / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 12:45 PM What caused the massive crop circles on a field at Greg Geib's Washington state wheat farm? What caused the massive crop circles on a field at Greg Geib's Washington state wheat farm? We had aliens attack us you know, I guess, he told KHQ-TV. Greg's wife Cindy thinks it would be kind of cool if it really were aliens, but doesn't seem to think it's likely. The elaborate designs were pressed into the Geibs' fields near Wilbur, Wash., last week. Whoever or whatever made them strikes area fields every year or two, according to local farmers. I guess this year it was our turn, Cindy Geib said. Though some people believe that crop circles are the work of visiting extraterrestrials, the phenomenon began in the 1970s when admitted hoaxers Doug Bower and Dave Chorley started carving the elaborate designs into British farmers' fields. KHQ Right Now - News and Weather for Spokane and North Idaho | http://www.khq.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself
turquoiseb: pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in modern politics: You still working for IBM? LoL! What do you do when everybody's claiming your president said something, and you just know he didn't really say it, but all the video and all the audio and all the transcripts show that he did say it? http://tinyurl.com/7c79njk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Susan wrote: I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate). MMY claimed in his last interview with Larry King on CCN to be a monk. Monk doesn't mean celibate, as the Vaj-fellow should know. A monk is self-suffiscient, no need for wife.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Wants Something Dramatic to Aid Economy
Romney Wants Something Dramatic to Aid Economy Bhairitu: He's bluffing just to get the vote... You say Malivinas, Obama sez Maldives, One is the Falklands, the others almost Ceylonese, Corpseman, Oree-on, Austrian words for cretin? Oh lets call the whole thing off http://tinyurl.com/cf8jp2w
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself
It\s so funny one suspects it's photoshopped, but it's not :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in modern politics: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ \ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\ \ 41787_1944288480_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ \ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. As for the cult apologist claims, I honestly don't know which is sadder to contemplate -- that the person knows that the claim of someone hacking Dan's account is ludicrous but said it anyway reflexively because that's just what cult apologists DO, or that the person actually believes it. The latter implies a level of paranoia and self-importance that are right up there with Nabby's claims that people are paid by the CIA or by the Dalai Lama to badrap TM and MMY on Fairfield Life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Maybe it really is Dan after developing Turrets syndrome. Poor guy! F...f..f.. Ket! From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 4:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:33 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. Whew! I was concerned this could mean that after age 50 I became a cougar- like being that stalks younger men or even worse: I bleed and become irritable on a monthly basis! I'm totally cool with being the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. What a compliment...thanks Dan!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
I agree this is big news and I'm quite enthusiastic about it...but many of my associates show little interest. Seems like it's getting very little play in the media...perhaps the Olympics overshadows it a bit...or landing rovers on Mars has become so 2004? When the high quality image stream starts, we'll see more interest. Better yet, if they detect an algae or such, then we'll see some momentum forming . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: NASA timed this landing perfectly along with the Olympics. They won the gold medal tonight, and rightfully so!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Master Ann prefigured by Zen Master, both wise. But she also inspiring slippery laughter. Me leaving off smiley to thank M Ann who doesn't like such. Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 8:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Boy, did you ever. You better take an anatomy lesson and realize the vagina doesn't create anything, and certainly not babies! Think of it more as a slippery slope.
[FairfieldLife] One for Nabby: Domes of Gold - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlffubR2N9Y
Re: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute
thank you thank you thank you for this so beautiful. And for Yoko too so heartfelt From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 1:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute Oh friends, not these tones! Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing And more joyful sounds! Joy! (Joy!) So lets the active and lurking 1160 or so member of FFL sing together with Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join with our 10 000 amateur chorus singers Far Eastern brother/sister/friends in this moving tribute to all the victims of the Fukushima disaster. Let's join in this a strikingDaiku environment(Daiku suggests a relationship to the word haiku but with digital shorts- a portal between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic component) and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, conducted by a student of my friend Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved Karajan http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 Joy, beautiful spark of the gods* Daughter of Elysium, We enter, drunk with fire, Heavenly one, your sanctuary! Your magic reunites What custom's sword strictly divided. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls PS *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great bosom of nature. No thought can go so far... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
I don't remember the details of the story I heard long ago but it was murder. In what degree? I don't know. Combat was never mentioned. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 2:26 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in his youth, was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the Indian Navy as a youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and became a great Yogi and then exited as he made someone else exitthrough murder. He was a soldier and killed many people, that's not murder in the ususal meaning of the world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute
And they roll their R's in the back of their throats so perfectly! Das ist ausgeseichnet! From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute Oh friends, not these tones! Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing And more joyful sounds! Joy! (Joy!) So lets the active and lurking 1160 or so member of FFL sing together with Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join with our 10 000 amateur chorus singers Far Eastern brother/sister/friends in this moving tribute to all the victims of the Fukushima disaster. Let's join in this a strikingDaiku environment(Daiku suggests a relationship to the word haiku but with digital shorts- a portal between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic component) and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, conducted by a student of my friend Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved Karajan http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 Joy, beautiful spark of the gods* Daughter of Elysium, We enter, drunk with fire, Heavenly one, your sanctuary! Your magic reunites What custom's sword strictly divided. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls PS *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great bosom of nature. No thought can go so far... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself
Isn't that what this Country needs? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: It\s so funny one suspects it's photoshopped, but it's not :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in modern politics: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ \ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\ \ 41787_1944288480_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ \ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg
[FairfieldLife] TIFFANY FOSTER VICTOR
Dear awoelflebater what is your take on that or how i use to write your op -onion--?(Beware the peeling effect of onions) .. the protest was denied based on Annex XI of the FEI Veterinary Regulations, which state: there is no appeal against the decision of the Ground Jury to disqualify a horse for abnormal sensitivity from an event. http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5 http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5 Isn't there a potential for collateral damage? The idea was always give the benefit of the doubt to the athlete. In this case, it's the opposite.The only revenge would be to finish top three again in today's final with the remaining three riders; if they do, Foster will receive a medal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: Isn't that what this Country needs? First TM :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: It\s so funny one suspects it's photoshopped, but it's not :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in modern politics: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ \ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\ \ 41787_1944288480_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ \ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: I don't remember the details of the story I heard long ago but it was murder. In what degree? I don't know. Combat was never mentioned. It's well know fact that TWB used to be a soldier in the indian army.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mitt just can't help himself
On 08/06/2012 06:15 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in modern politics: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\ 41787_1944288480_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg Or an intentional (though lame) subliminal. RawMoney is another nickname that particularly progressive talk show host Norman Goldman likes to use for Mitt. There's a Mittiot blog out there but it hasn't been updated since 2008.
[FairfieldLife] Re: One for Nabby: Domes of Gold - YouTube
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlffubR2N9Y Nice, thanks for posting.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Curiosity Has Landed!
On 08/05/2012 10:34 PM, John wrote: Cheers! http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html I watched it on NASA TV but kept thinking it almost looked staged. Hollywood couldn't have done it better. Now for them to find an artifact and hope they still show it to us. There are some things up there from previous pictures that even NASA doesn't know what to make of. They don't look natural.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
On 08/06/2012 03:44 AM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: NASA timed this landing perfectly Disagree! They should have scheduled the landing at least three hours earlier so that it would happen before my bedtime. In any event, it was great to wake up to good news this morning. I was watching the first 10 minutes of Newsroom on DVR so took a break and fired up the Windows machine in the room and watched the landing on NASA TV. Then finished Newsroom and noticed that Salli Richardson-Whitfield (Eureka) has joined the cast though just a small part last night but I think a plot point that may have her more in future episodes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
Come on, someone must have something to say about this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Come on, someone must have something to say about this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle. All jyotish algorithms that I'm familiar with use standard astronomical routines for earth-based positions, not extraterrestrial ones. So if you wanted to use the earth launch point, you'd be in luck, but if you want to use a Martian one, you'd be out of luck. Add to that that all jyotish is cognized from an earth-centered worldview, you'd have no jyotish-based predictions to even utilize. The only way around this is use an astronomical program that allows views from other solar system vantage points, and then apply standard jyotish to the resulting sidereal information. Your best option might be to consult a living jyotish rishi like yogi Karve.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Share1: Marnia Robinson writes: Take, for example, the ancient Tibetan Buddhist myth, The Great Stupa. It confirms that passion is indeed the reason for mankind's fallen state, and says there are three paths to liberation: ~the overcoming of passion through renunciation ~the neutralization of passion by pouring all one's energy into selfless service ~the conquering of passion through controlled indulgence. That is, using sex itself in such a way as to transcend passion's treacherous downward suction. It says that the third path is the fastest and most powerful path, although also the easiest one to fall from...until one masters it. Robin1: I think this just BS, Share. There is no spiritual path that entails sex or abstinence from sex: celibacy. Controlled indulgence--any being with the intelligence to know how susceptible we all are to the power of this reality inside our bodies, knows this is just plain ridiculous. 'Mastering' controlled indulgence--this is the most absurd and ludicrous idea I think I may have heard when it comes to traditional idea of spirituality, Share. Beautifully sincere, but hopelessly naive. Look: here is where I come out on all this. I believe that only the grace of the Personal God can make of celibacy something real, creative, strong, holy. Without that grace, all you have is will power and some religious idea of how good and necessary it is to be abstain from sexual activity. The sexual drive in human beings, Share--unless it has simply just attenuated because of age, or just doesn't assert itself for some unknown reason--always conquers the individual person. One can only do one's best to act with integrity in this matter. But turning sex into some kind of path of truth, that is just a hoot. Don't you see, Share, for this to be true would mean that encountering the methodology and teaching of Marnia Robinson *would be to encounter something more powerful, or potentially more powerful, than sexual desire*. That can't happen. The reality and power of sexuality is something *no human being in my lifetime* has ever mastered--mastered here means, having more control over and intelligence about than what the sensation of sexuality presents to us. *We cannot truly command this aspect of ourselves as human beings without the grace given to us by the author of sexuality* (before the Fall). I have never seen a single human being, Share, who I intuitively knew: *This person knows more about his or her sexuality, what it is, how it acts within him or her, how it can be put it inside a context such as to make it submit itself to that person's will--than the power of this reality to determine that person's experience*. Marnia Robinson: The myth, which is very old, predicted there would come a time when the unstable energies produced by increased indulgence in passion would create chaos at both seen and unseen levels across the globe. The first two paths, celibacy and compassionate service to others, would no longer open the door to enlightenment, though they would remain useful spiritual disciplines. Why? Because general unrest would render impossible the necessary degree of inner stillness. Robin1: Nice talk, Share--but sex will defeat the person every time. It's one of those either or things: either there is the grace to transcend this desire and be protected from its furious vehemence and insistence, or there is not the grace to do this. For me, I have never seen that grace sufficient to insure the physical integrity of a human being. Although I don't therefore, discount the tremendous intention to conquer or control this aspect of ourselves. Obviously a Catholic priest is living with this intention (presumably). But Marnia Robinson, she has as much insight into her sexuality as Eve did: None. *It just is a given that concupiscence takes our measure, Share*--although, again, I say: there are obviously persons in the world heroically fighting against this reality within themselves. It is just that the grace (from the author of sexuality) is being withheld.--This was decidedly not the case before I was born; before World War II. Then those nuns and religious, they, some of them anyway--like Saint Therese of Lisieux, like Saint Francis of Assisi, like Saint Teresa of Avila, like Saint Ignatius of Loyola, like Thomas Aquinas (to take examples of persons who refer to this very topic (their own sexuality) and how they somehow were recipients of the supernatural grace which is a sine qua non in being innocently and intelligently celibate)--*lived the life that none of us can now*. Marnia Robinson: Instead, only the third path, balance with a partner, would serve. Apparently a loving relationship, devoted entirely to the goal of transcendence, can create enduring inner peace and stability. In this way, we can reconnect the broken circuit of
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Ladies lunch
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TIFFANY FOSTER VICTOR
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: Dear awoelflebater what is your take on that or how i use to write your op -onion--?(Beware the peeling effect of onions) .. the protest was denied based on Annex XI of the FEI Veterinary Regulations, which state: there is no appeal against the decision of the Ground Jury to disqualify a horse for abnormal sensitivity from an event. First of all, there are definitely disciplines within the horse world that regularly sore their horses around the coronet band. Tennessee walking horses and gaited horses are particularly prone to this abuse from the use of various topical applications of chemicals that cause the skin to erupt and ooze and it can even go so far as to keep a horse from standing up. Hideous. Show jumpers more frequently use the technique of either rapping or poling to strike the horses front or hind legs as they are in the air over a jump in order to make the horse think he hit the fence and therefore next time the animal will presumably jump higher. These people use either bamboo poles, regular jump poles or tack poles that have sharp implements imbedded in the wood to actually hurt the horse. Other methods can involve sharp objects placed inside of a jumping boot that the horse wears so that if the animal hits the fence it hurts even more. A legal method is to use weighted horse boots so that once you remove them the horse just feels that much lighter and it likely to clear the obstacle easier once the weight it removed. I highly doubt the Canadian team would have purposefully injured their team horse's coronet band at the Olympics in the year 2012. Ian Millar, one of the veteran team members has seen 10 Olympics. These people would not risk such behaviour. Eric Lamaze was the leading show jumping rider in the world aboard the late Hickstead. All of this question of intentional injury is highly unusual for these Canadians, they are not, like some other countries I can name, prone to various charges related to both drugging as well as misuse of equipment. They are simply too experienced and too smart to have created an injury that is obviously visible to the naked eye and would be detected eventually by some veterinarian or steward or other competitor. Now I know the rules committee is not implying that Tiffany or anyone else intentionally created a sore on this horse's leg but they are abiding by a general rule that since a horse has a pre-existing area on its body, likely to be struck again during warm up or competition, they have to consider this and err on the side of caution for the horse's sake. I understand this stance although I wish there was some type of boot or sock or bandage they could use to protect that area. However, that place on the leg is hard to protect as it moves and any protective covering would most likely be inefficient in staying in place. Also, the mere fact that there would be something placed over the small wound could also exacerbate the problem. So, unfortunately, the horse will be withdrawn for a very unfortunate and probably insignificant issue. But abuse is so rampant in the horse world that I would have to err on the side of the rules in general. So much goes ignored and the Olympics and the FEI in particular hold very stringent parameters. If only all horse shows did. http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5 http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5 Isn't there a potential for collateral damage? The idea was always give the benefit of the doubt to the athlete. In this case, it's the opposite.The only revenge would be to finish top three again in today's final with the remaining three riders; if they do, Foster will receive a medal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
On 08/06/2012 09:55 AM, Vaj wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Come on, someone must have something to say about this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle. All jyotish algorithms that I'm familiar with use standard astronomical routines for earth-based positions, not extraterrestrial ones. So if you wanted to use the earth launch point, you'd be in luck, but if you want to use a Martian one, you'd be out of luck. Add to that that all jyotish is cognized from an earth-centered worldview, you'd have no jyotish-based predictions to even utilize. The only way around this is use an astronomical program that allows views from other solar system vantage points, and then apply standard jyotish to the resulting sidereal information. Your best option might be to consult a living jyotish rishi like yogi Karve. You would have to develop a system for Mars but given our advanced technology you might just instead keep statistical records and look for cycles. I strongly believe that's all astrology is about anyway: a rough system of tracking naturally occurring cycles using the planets as markers. You have two kinds of jyotishis: ones that believe we're the puppets of the planets and others who look at it abstractly for sort of an event weather report with a propensity for things to happen. I saw some astrology groups forecasting the success of the mission based on it's launch. In some cases they forecast a more dire result which didn't happen. Of course some of those astrologers will go back and say oh wait, I missed this... :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 08/06/2012 09:55 AM, Vaj wrote: All jyotish algorithms that I'm familiar with use standard astronomical routines for earth-based positions, not extraterrestrial ones. So if you wanted to use the earth launch point, you'd be in luck, but if you want to use a Martian one, you'd be out of luck. Add to that that all jyotish is cognized from an earth-centered worldview, you'd have no jyotish-based predictions to even utilize. The only way around this is use an astronomical program that allows views from other solar system vantage points, and then apply standard jyotish to the resulting sidereal information. Your best option might be to consult a living jyotish rishi like yogi Karve. You would have to develop a system for Mars but given our advanced technology you might just instead keep statistical records and look for cycles. I strongly believe that's all astrology is about anyway: a rough system of tracking naturally occurring cycles using the planets as markers. You have two kinds of jyotishis: ones that believe we're the puppets of the planets and others who look at it abstractly for sort of an event weather report with a propensity for things to happen. I can just hear it now, after the colonization of Mars, some future Martian Jyotish astrologer is gazing at the chart he's just drawn up for a suck...uh, I mean client, and saying, Oh. Bummer dude. You have Earth rising in the 10th house, both Phobos and Deimos in your 7th house, and Earth's moon square up Uranus. You're fucked. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Come on, someone must have something to say about this. I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA! Talk about unforseen circumstances. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
Sexuality Before Marnia Robinson: for Share The pleasures of sex are more vehement that the pleasures of food and exert more pressure on us; they need more whipping into line, for the more we give way to them the more they dominate us and the more able they are to overthrow our strength of mind. Even married sex, adorned with all the honourableness of marriage, carries with it a certain shame, because the movements of the genitals unlike those of other external members don't obey reason. The virtue that deals with the sex-act we call chastity, and the virtue concerned with more public actions such as looking and kissing and caressing we call *purity*. *Purity* is a sort of adjunct serving chastity, not a separate virtue but a sort of environment to chastity. Sexual sin is thought of as more disgraceful than other immoderate action, partly because of the uncontrolled movements of the genitals, but also because our reason gets submerged. There are three levels to be considered in the act of sex: the physiological level (the breaking of the hymen, etc) has no moral context as such; at the psychological level shared by body and soul, emission of seed brings sensory pleasure (the material side of the human moral act); and at the deepest level there is an act of intention in the soul aiming at such pleasure (and making that act a human, moral activity). Now *virginity* is defined by a moral integrity: not then the integrity of the hymen as such, but a material immunity from the pleasures of orgasm, wedded with a formal purpose of perpetual abstinence from such pleasures. A hymen broken from some other cause is no more a loss of virginity in this sense than a broken arm or leg. And the pleasure of orgasm can be experienced unintentionally during sleep or externally forced without a person's consent. In no such case is virginity lost. External goods are meant to serve our body's good, our body to serve our soul, and in our soul the active life should serve the contemplative life. So it is not a bad thing, but reasonable and right, to abstain from external possessions, which are otherwise good, for the sake of the body's health or the contemplation of truth. And in the same way abstaining from bodily pleasure so as to make ourselves more freely available to contemplate truth, is reasonable and right. The injunction of the law in us by nature to *eat* must be observed by everybody if individuals are to survive; but the injunction to *be fruitful and multiply* obliges the community of mankind reproduce whilst others, abstaining from that, give themselves up to the contemplation of God, and so bring a beauty and health into the whole human race. To refuse all pleasure as such because of dislike for it and without good reason is to be insensitive and boorish. The practice of virginity doesn't refuse all pleasure, but only that of sex, and that only for a good reason. Virginity seeks the soul's good in a life of contemplation *mindful of the things of God*. Marriage seeks the body's good--the bodily multiplication of the human race--in an active life in which husband and wife are *mindful of the things of this world*. Without doubt then the state of virginity is preferable to that of even continent marriage, though married people may well be better people than those practising virginity; more chaste, having a spirit that would have made them better virgins were they called to it than those actually practising virginity, and more virtuous in general. The general good ranks above the good of the private person when those goods are of the same sort. But the private good may be of a higher sort; and that is what happens when virginity dedicated to God is compared with bodily fruitfulness. However, the theological virtues and even the virtue of religion, being directly occupied with God, are to be preferred to virginity. Again martyrs cleave to God more mightily, because they lay down their own lives, whilst those who dwell in monasteries lay down their own wills and all they possess; virgins lay down only the pleasures of sex. Simply speaking then virginity is by no means the greatest of virtues. Use of food properly ordered for the body's welfare is no sin; and in the same way, use of sex properly ordered for the purpose of human reproduction is no sin. Virtuous balance is not measured quantitatively but by rightness of reason, so the high degree of pleasure that attaches to a properly ordered sex-act doesn't stop it being balanced. In any case virtue isn't concerned with how much external sense-pleasure accompanies the act (that depends on the body's temperament), but with the way that pleasure interiorly affects us. Though not even our distraction from spiritual matters at the moment of enjoying such pleasure makes it unvirtuous; for it is not unvirtuous to suspend reason for a time for a good reason, otherwise sleeping would be a vice. --- In
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
Besides being nonsensical from a logical perspective because the 'influences' of the various celestial bodies are only spelled out in an incredibly vague way, astrology has problems even on Earth. There are no rising signs at the poles where the stars rotate around the horizon (left to right at the North, and right to left at the South) without rising or setting). Even close to the poles, many stars do not rise or set. (Note, the precise calculations of the location of celestial bodies are now done using values from the science astronomy and physics - astrologers never look at the sky or use traditional instruments to locate and predict where they are. These values can be made very precise, but how is the so-called influence determined in principle? Only the result has been stated, not how it was derived.) Another problem is the stars are in motion, over long periods of time, such as 50,000 years, the constellations we see today mostly do not hold together at all. The fixed sphere of stars is anything but. The North Star and/or the South Star is usually not there at all, and if a star is close to one of the celestial poles, it is seldom there for more than a thousand years or so. On Mars, Mars fills 1/2 of the celestial sphere so it fills six houses at once. And what values to you use to determine the effect of Earth in the sky? And what are the effects of Phobos and Deimos when they eclipse the Sun or are eclipsed my Mars? Phobos whips around Mars in less than 7 hours 40 minutes so it goes around the planet more than 3 times a day, while Deimos takes slightly more than a day, a Mars Sol, which is a bit more than 24.63 hours. Jyotish for other kinds of spacecraft might be even more interesting, for example, a craft in a polar solar orbit. The planets and Sun would then appear mostly in constellations that are not in the Zodiac, and there would be no rising or setting anythings. I remember that the software program Parashara's Light many years ago, which used the ancient writings directly to produce a prediction, predicted I would have many elephants by now, but I see none and have none at all. In other words you have to start from scratch, using basic principles, not descriptions that are current that are *presumed* to flow from those basic principles, which are what? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Come on, someone must have something to say about this. I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA! Talk about unforseen circumstances. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Come on, someone must have something to say about this. I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA! Talk about unforseen circumstances. Jyotish would be different on Mars. Specifically, every second of the day would be malefic and inhospitable for any human beings there. Day and night would not be the same as the earth. You're either frozen at night or boiled during the day. The seasons would have no meaning since humans cannot celebrate spring in the environment of Mars. The equinoxes would have no meaning since you cannot plant anything on Mars during springtime which can be harvested during the summer. The effects of the Martian moons will be different. You can't use the moons to predict the ocean tides since there are no seas on Mars. IMO, the Martian moons will play havoc to the psychology of humans living there. JR
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
On 08/06/2012 01:01 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: Besides being nonsensical from a logical perspective because the 'influences' of the various celestial bodies are only spelled out in an incredibly vague way, astrology has problems even on Earth. There are no rising signs at the poles where the stars rotate around the horizon (left to right at the North, and right to left at the South) without rising or setting). Even close to the poles, many stars do not rise or set. (Note, the precise calculations of the location of celestial bodies are now done using values from the science astronomy and physics - astrologers never look at the sky or use traditional instruments to locate and predict where they are. These values can be made very precise, but how is the so-called influence determined in principle? Only the result has been stated, not how it was derived.) Another problem is the stars are in motion, over long periods of time, such as 50,000 years, the constellations we see today mostly do not hold together at all. The fixed sphere of stars is anything but. The North Star and/or the South Star is usually not there at all, and if a star is close to one of the celestial poles, it is seldom there for more than a thousand years or so. On Mars, Mars fills 1/2 of the celestial sphere so it fills six houses at once. And what values to you use to determine the effect of Earth in the sky? And what are the effects of Phobos and Deimos when they eclipse the Sun or are eclipsed my Mars? Phobos whips around Mars in less than 7 hours 40 minutes so it goes around the planet more than 3 times a day, while Deimos takes slightly more than a day, a Mars Sol, which is a bit more than 24.63 hours. Jyotish for other kinds of spacecraft might be even more interesting, for example, a craft in a polar solar orbit. The planets and Sun would then appear mostly in constellations that are not in the Zodiac, and there would be no rising or setting anythings. I remember that the software program Parashara's Light many years ago, which used the ancient writings directly to produce a prediction, predicted I would have many elephants by now, but I see none and have none at all. How many cars have you owned? ;-) In other words you have to start from scratch, using basic principles, not descriptions that are current that are *presumed* to flow from those basic principles, which are what? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Come on, someone must have something to say about this. I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA! Talk about unforseen circumstances. http://rense.com/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?
On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Besides being nonsensical from a logical perspective because the 'influences' of the various celestial bodies are only spelled out in an incredibly vague way, astrology has problems even on Earth. There are no rising signs at the poles where the stars rotate around the horizon (left to right at the North, and right to left at the South) without rising or setting). Even close to the poles, many stars do not rise or set. That’s true, but then, that merely represents a certain background of cosmic radiation coming from those areas, only changing slowly over vast epochs of human time. Human DNA evolved against that very background radiation of antique starlight - and the moving arcs of the planets and the zodiac, has followed humanity far longer than most could even imagine. They’re influence is embedded deep within human memory and our very DNA. (Note, the precise calculations of the location of celestial bodies are now done using values from the science astronomy and physics - astrologers never look at the sky or use traditional instruments to locate and predict where they are. These values can be made very precise, but how is the so-called influence determined in principle? Only the result has been stated, not how it was derived.) Yogi Karve would simply see them, in consciousness, as soon as he placed his attention on you. When an old acquaintance walked into the room, he remembered the person not by their physical appearance - but he saw your rising signs and planets, imprinted at the moment of your first breath, forever in their koshas. Another problem is the stars are in motion, over long periods of time, such as 50,000 years, the constellations we see today mostly do not hold together at all. The fixed sphere of stars is anything but. The North Star and/or the South Star is usually not there at all, and if a star is close to one of the celestial poles, it is seldom there for more than a thousand years or so. Relative to human time, their movement is very slow.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
So, are you saying that because he was a soldier or sailor, he couldn't have committed a murder? The story I heard put him in some kind of a brawl in which he killed a man. Suffering from a guilt trip or maybe to flee prosecution,(take your pick) he ran off to the Himalayas to do penance as a yogi. The particular details don't really matter to me, it's just that the point was, that he took another person's life, became a yogi and left this world when someone else took his. His personal crisis motivated him to become a Great Soul. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 9:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: I don't remember the details of the story I heard long ago but it was murder. In what degree? I don't know. Combat was never mentioned. It's well know fact that TWB used to be a soldier in the indian army.
[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Dear Emptybill: I just began to read through this post of yours, answering as I went along, not knowing where you would be going. But then I got to our Kentucky Bourbon moment, and the floor kind of gave out from under me. I could go no further. You will see the sudden transition I had to make, a transition which made me reluctant to go beyond the Bourbon. And therefore, somewhat arbitrarily, to ignore the last half of your post. (Read, but not answered; you will see why.) Robin's Message 315852 Robin1: Because, you see, emptybill, my intentions here on FFL, they are far more morally driven than your disgust and aversion to what I am doing. EB2: No disgust, no aversion not even disquiet. Admiration rather, since now I understand. You are just displaying your performance art - although seemingly bereft of quietude or contemplation. In truth, you appear as the blessed bitch of your totem-daimon, like a good and dutiful servant. Why you must certainly see your performances as confessional addendums to Truly, truly, I say unto thee . Aren't they literal prayers to have your efforts recognized as deserving? Robin2: No, Emptybill, I am as interested in quietude and contemplation as you are. I am my own blessed bitch--bitch to myself, that is. Where do you get some sense of a distinct entity/muse other than myself speaking my words? I consider any sources of inspiration other than my own waking state self to be anathema. Especially after experiencing myself 'instrumentally' for those ten years. You seek to impute my motives here to some desperate cry for recognition, or acknowledgement; whereas I view my posting at FFL in strictly selfish terms: I want to clarify and strengthen my own understanding of how my philosophy applies to my life. Fielding the different and clashing points of view on FFL--not to mention the different and clashing personalities (first-person ontology differentials!)--has been experimentally proven to me to be useful for my own--let me genuflect before the East for a moment--evolution. Performance art for the sake of performance art: that does not describe my intention, nor, I believe, Emptybill, if you see how I interact with someone like Share Long, or Emily, or Raunchydog, or PaliGap, or Feste37, my acts here in the form of posts at FFL. Robin1: You don't like it and would have me acting perhaps as a more antic version of Lear's Foolor the cosmic harlequin whose nimble acrobatics are to seduce some would-be inamorato. EB2: Oh not so, not so. (See footnote 1) Robin2: Emptybill, I did not know you were an author. I suppose I will have to see if I can speed-read that book before I say much else, since you obviously have a pretty coherent and carefully-thought out view of reality and the human soul. Of course I cannot know what you mean in your comment here without looking through your book. Would you recommend my reading it? I do think, however, you have hit upon a truth there: I consider enlightenment to be a form of abject slavery. And I am happy to have escaped from the Big Plantation of the Self. Robin1: I conceive of acting in lovehowever differently it is perceived by you and a strong contingent of critics sympathetic to what you have said here. EB2: Isn't this the mark of Plato's true lover? Or is it rather the stamp of a Platonic motherfucker a lost soul coupling with prima materia? Isn't the Dark Lord a better lover of your deity than you? (See note 2) Robin2: Emptybill, I would have the Personal God for my lover--but he is not to be found. Therefore I am on my own. And everything I say is said from entirely within the existential intention to own it through my own experimental knowledge of life, even, if I may say it, the universe itself. There is no deity, then, for me; and certainly no guru. No philosophy even that would make me its exponent. You mistake me, Emptybill, I am a loner. I take responsibility for existing as a created being whose only resource apart from my own faculties and life history, is *reality* itself--what I make of my transactions with her. Which are never abstract, and are always first-person ontological [as you would expect. :-)] Like right now, Emptybill. There is no mediator between what you have said and my own heart. I would have life physical-supernatural rather than mental-mystical. Life for me is about what it was like to be McKayala Maroney last night after failing to land her dismount on her second vault attempt--or the sensation Usain Bolt felt in his body in running 9:63 in the 100 metre final. Or Emptybill in this very moment wondering how to answer this post. :-) Enlightenment is so far away from where I choose to live my life, Emptybill--and did I tell you? *I've been there*. I am more of an Aristotelian-Thomistic fathermucker than the other. Robin1: I will assume, however, that in having
Re: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute
I had to watch this again. The only way it could be better is, for them all to be in Kabuki costume. From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:05 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute Oh friends, not these tones! Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing And more joyful sounds! Joy! (Joy!) So lets the active and lurking 1160 or so member of FFL sing together with Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join with our 10 000 amateur chorus singers Far Eastern brother/sister/friends in this moving tribute to all the victims of the Fukushima disaster. Let's join in this a strikingDaiku environment(Daiku suggests a relationship to the word haiku but with digital shorts- a portal between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic component) and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, conducted by a student of my friend Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved Karajan http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 Joy, beautiful spark of the gods* Daughter of Elysium, We enter, drunk with fire, Heavenly one, your sanctuary! Your magic reunites What custom's sword strictly divided. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls PS *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great bosom of nature. No thought can go so far... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response
[FairfieldLife] mornng Gongyo
chanting of the Lotus Sutra: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Cg8xh62Ps
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 04 00:00:00 2012 End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 11 00:00:00 2012 208 messages as of (UTC) Tue Aug 07 00:13:07 2012 27 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com 17 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com 16 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com 13 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com 12 sparaig lengli...@cox.net 12 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net 11 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 11 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net 10 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com 9 authfriend jst...@panix.com 7 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 6 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com 5 danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 5 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com 5 John jr_...@yahoo.com 5 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 5 Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us 4 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 3 wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com 2 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com 2 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com 2 Mark msilver1...@yahoo.com 2 Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com 2 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com 2 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 1 salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com 1 nelson nelsonriddle2...@yahoo.com 1 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de 1 martyboi marty...@yahoo.com 1 iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 eustace10679 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 1 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com 1 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com 1 Susan waybac...@yahoo.com 1 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com 1 Dr. Jessie jmer...@vastu2vaastu.com Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
Good evening Robin, Apologies for just responding. Busy afternoon with writing group and release session, then Dome and dinner. This essay has a decidedly Catholic tone to it. Would it be possible to know the author? That tone gives this reader the sense of someone demonstrating a waltz with their legs and arms tied. I don't even know why I say this. It is simply my sense of it. I still maintain that Western culture is severely marred by the spirit matter split that began long ago. For this reason I find the Taoist approach to sexual intimacy to be healthier and more compassionate and spiritually viable. I do not believe that the only right use of sex is for procreation. Nor do I find myself distracted from spiritual matters during loving intimacy. Thank you for taking the time and attention to reply. I'll respond to the other posts tomorrow. Wishing you a wonderful evening... Share From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 1:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-: Sexuality Before Marnia Robinson: for Share The pleasures of sex are more vehement that the pleasures of food and exert more pressure on us; they need more whipping into line, for the more we give way to them the more they dominate us and the more able they are to overthrow our strength of mind. Even married sex, adorned with all the honourableness of marriage, carries with it a certain shame, because the movements of the genitals unlike those of other external members don't obey reason. The virtue that deals with the sex-act we call chastity, and the virtue concerned with more public actions such as looking and kissing and caressing we call *purity*. *Purity* is a sort of adjunct serving chastity, not a separate virtue but a sort of environment to chastity. Sexual sin is thought of as more disgraceful than other immoderate action, partly because of the uncontrolled movements of the genitals, but also because our reason gets submerged. There are three levels to be considered in the act of sex: the physiological level (the breaking of the hymen, etc) has no moral context as such; at the psychological level shared by body and soul, emission of seed brings sensory pleasure (the material side of the human moral act); and at the deepest level there is an act of intention in the soul aiming at such pleasure (and making that act a human, moral activity). Now *virginity* is defined by a moral integrity: not then the integrity of the hymen as such, but a material immunity from the pleasures of orgasm, wedded with a formal purpose of perpetual abstinence from such pleasures. A hymen broken from some other cause is no more a loss of virginity in this sense than a broken arm or leg. And the pleasure of orgasm can be experienced unintentionally during sleep or externally forced without a person's consent. In no such case is virginity lost. External goods are meant to serve our body's good, our body to serve our soul, and in our soul the active life should serve the contemplative life. So it is not a bad thing, but reasonable and right, to abstain from external possessions, which are otherwise good, for the sake of the body's health or the contemplation of truth. And in the same way abstaining from bodily pleasure so as to make ourselves more freely available to contemplate truth, is reasonable and right. The injunction of the law in us by nature to *eat* must be observed by everybody if individuals are to survive; but the injunction to *be fruitful and multiply* obliges the community of mankind reproduce whilst others, abstaining from that, give themselves up to the contemplation of God, and so bring a beauty and health into the whole human race. To refuse all pleasure as such because of dislike for it and without good reason is to be insensitive and boorish. The practice of virginity doesn't refuse all pleasure, but only that of sex, and that only for a good reason. Virginity seeks the soul's good in a life of contemplation *mindful of the things of God*. Marriage seeks the body's good--the bodily multiplication of the human race--in an active life in which husband and wife are *mindful of the things of this world*. Without doubt then the state of virginity is preferable to that of even continent marriage, though married people may well be better people than those practising virginity; more chaste, having a spirit that would have made them better virgins were they called to it than those actually practising virginity, and more virtuous in general. The general good ranks above the good of the private person when those goods are of the same sort. But the private good may be of a higher sort; and that is what happens when virginity dedicated to God is compared with bodily fruitfulness. However, the theological virtues and
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. Tee hee, Barry had to make sure we didn't think he read Judy's entire post. He merely skimmed in Message View. It's okay, we know you couldn't help yourself. She is so tempting to sneak peeks at. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? Well it doesn't appear as if you are his personal favourite Barry but maybe he will manage an apologetic and explanatory post. However, I wouldn't bet my life on it, or even 5 Euro. 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? Leave out letters? He seemed to spell fuck alright and that was over half the content. I would also say the grammar and punctuation needed a little work. 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look bad? Maybe likes attract, birds of a feather and all that. 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb turq and turqy, again almost as if you were very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this forum by his detractors. How did you know all this? 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling better and a little more sane now? I hope so. Hey, you said Finally, now I see there's a point 6. 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned or both) that set you off and caused you to embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular practice of TM cause (as one person suggested) some roughness of awareness? Does this happen to you often? Maybe you two should compare notes. 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? What cult? What am I missing here? I want to join. Somebody, tell me who do I contact? Does it cost much? Can women join? What is a Professional Cult Apologist? Anybody have an application form, a job description? So many questions, so few answers (sigh). Thanks for taking the time to answer these questions, and I really hope you come back to visit us soon, and after having imbibed in the same substances that inspired you last time. As I said before, the more often that long-term TM practitioners such as yourself *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has done for them, and what balanced and happy individuals they've become as a result, the more new people will learn TM. Is Barry another example of how TM makes one balanced and happy? Or was that Rama's fault? Naw, I'll just chalk it up to that Dutch beer. Someone or something other than Barry has to take the blame/responsibility. Or maybe not. Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that... What was that about stupid and profane?
[FairfieldLife] Some facts and background on Robin Carlsen / umasking the zebra
Dear Robin, I know you well, I was in the inner circle of your followers. I lived in the group house you named Annapurna in Victoria. I fully experienced what ultimately became a waking nightmare in being a member of your cult. I have a vivid memory of the day when a member of the group who had been extremely close to you attempted suicide after you ruthlessly confronted her and declared her to be an evil being who was only appearing in the guise of a human being. I remember the meeting at Heronwater in which you spoke with ice cold disdain about her when the news came of her attempted suicide, your only concern was to send someone to her apartment to collect any items from her belongings that could connect her to you. This is a fact, a horrible ugly fact which could be verified by all the people in that room, about 15 members of the inner circle.I am not proud of my involvement in this and many other heartless atrocities that took place over the years I was associated with you. In due time my turn came to be on the receiving end of an ultimate pronouncement on my soul as being irretrievably lost and after being brutally confronted by you and the whole group I was ejected from the cult with great scorn. This was the standard operating procedure and happened to many others over the years. Robin I have a simple question for you, what in your background gives you the the standing, the credibility to make pronouncements about the ultimate value of the Eastern Spiritual tradition and declare the death of Christianity? I would have thought that if you were truly remorseful for the harm you had done to so many people, the last thing you would have wanted to do is to give into the temptation to represent yourself as an authority capable of passing judgment on whole spiritual traditions as well as in some instances making harsh judgments about individuals on FFL. Robin you were never enlightened nothing could be more obvious. The biographies of enlightened teachers down through time are filled with stories of their extraordinary love, compassion and sacrifice in being of profound service to their followers. Yours is a record of extraordinary abuse done to your followers. I care not a whit for your experience of enlightenment it is all words, words, words. You did not walk the talk, you were never enlightened. In my opinion you were someone who was mentally unbalanced who had a very expansive spiritual experience whose ego appropriated it instantly and you ran with it. You have natural gifts of intellect and charisma which made it possible for you to attract a small group around you who fell for it hook, line, and sinker. The center piece of your unique revelations as an enlightened man was the imperative to confront your followers in order to expose the demonic and then expel it. Where in the biographies of enlightened sages do you find this method being used to enlighten the disciples? The idea that you were faithful and true to Maharishi and his teaching is pure fiction that lives on in your mind and your mind alone. To put into perspective and accurate chronology your revelation about the Eastern spiritual tradition, it came in 1987 when you told the group that the the mantras we received through TM were the names of demons or fallen angels. It did not come years later after you had purged yourself of your supposed enlightenment.It was while you were still in a self admitted deeply disturbed state that you received this truth, and not as you have represented here as coming years later. In fact at the time this revelation came to you, you also believed that your wife was the incarnation of the devil and that Jewish people were evil. This was the nature of your very disturbed mind when you had the revelation that the whole Eastern spiritual tradition was satanic. The one new conclusion that you have offered here on FFL is that the Christian tradition and most significantly the Catholic tradition no longer has any spiritual substance whatsoever and has not since the bombing by the Allies of the monastery of Monte Cassino (1945) during World War II. A very strange and eccentric theory, which is at odds with the example of Mother Teresa's life (1910-1997) and also that of saint Padre Pio (1887-1968), to give just two prominent examples. Robin your record of accuracy on your grand theories and insights is abysmal. A pharmacy student in college is allowed only 3 occasions of lethal errors in making up prescriptions before he is bounced out of the pharmacy department, if you were held to the same standard as a practicing spiritual teacher you would have flunked out a hell of long time ago. Why it is you think anyone would believe and trust what you have to say about religious or metaphysical truth is beyond all reckoning. I am aware of your subtle way of controlling the context by claiming you are only just innocently following the
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
Barry is constitutionally unable to tell the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Hi Dan (or whoever you are), Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible for me to not notice that its posters are being told by one of the group's professional cult apologists that the person who made the recent inflammatory, profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th was not you. Barry must be referring to me here, but he's completely lost control of himself to call me a professional cult apologist. He knows neither characaterization is accurate. He also knows anybody here who's familiar with my posts knows he's lying. The cult apologist claims that your account had obviously been hacked, and that it's not really you. I made no claims. I made it clear I wasn't certain. And I did not use the word obviously. So that's three lies in one paragraph. What's happening, for those of you who aren't that familiar with Barry's very predictable behavior, is that I pointed out that he was lying in a different post about Dan. Check it out: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316260 Every time he's caught lying, his response is to tell more and bigger lies. And he repeats his lies on a regular basis even after they've been exposed. He's told the one in the post I just linked to before as well: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282434 He was corrected by feste at the time. Did he retract and apologize? Of course not. He just filed the lie away to tell again. Actually both times the lie was even worse than was exposed. Let's look at the most recent iteration: Remember, this is the same guy who started out at Fairfield Life trying to find out the real identities of posters he didn't like. At the time, folks suspected he might have intended to do them harm. Not only had Dan been participating for two and a half years before he complained about anonymity, he wasn't complaining about posters he didn't like, as Barry falsely claims. He was complaining about Rick posting emails he'd received from non-FFL members without identifying the source. And nobody suspected he might have intended to do them harm. Barry made that up. Barry will claim that the poster is too cowardly to respond, even though he's well aware the poster has almost certainly been thrown off for making the obscene posts. Copied from below: 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really you making these posts, or is that something that professional cult apologists just DO when a member of their cult embarrasses it? My guess is that the obscene poster is also a TMer and has been lurking on FFL. So much for Barry's embarrassment theory. Dan's last post here was in July 2011. I suspect he had unsubscribed, and the obscene poster posed as Dan and asked to be resubscribed with the intention of venting his uncontrollable rage on Barry and Vaj. If so, the motivation was certainly understandable, even if the implementation was unacceptable. Copied from below: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. As Barry is aware, emptybill and Nabby are the only posters who commonly use Vag (I don't recall anybody else ever using it). (I'm one of Vaj's sharpest critics, and I've *complained* about the use of Vag.) So let's count what Barry writes above as another lie. Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would come to) That would be a rather stupid conclusion, actually, for anyone to come to who remembers Dan's previous posting habits. It's not impossible that Dan has gone completely starkers, but it's not the most likely reason for the obscene posts. Posting While Intoxicated isn't likely either. Those weren't drunk posts, they were crazy posts. The person who made them needs professional help. But then, so does Barry. , I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker, decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering a few questions about it? 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you were going to post the rants intended to make him look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield Life? 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's consistent bad spelling? 3. How did you decide which other posters to reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...
MMY != Swami Rama. I thought you said that MMY said something... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: see Swami Rama [:D] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R' http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316301 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Not some lecture that I was privy to... Did he perchance say what the signs of this time were when you come to the end of practice? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote: Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it: The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'... This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of C.C. When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'... Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra... Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C. and U.C. to continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of the Surface Values at the Same Time'... This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent, Unmanifest and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness... Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of 'Maintaining the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing the Fluctions of Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the non-linear sense of time, the vertical sense of space, the feeling of the Prana coming in and going out, the flow of life within and without All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'... Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time... Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'... This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in the 'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent Intellect that is always in the 'Flow of the Divine'... Jai Guru Dev
[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Susan wrote: I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate). MMY claimed in his last interview with Larry King on CCN to be a monk. At age 80 something with failing health, regardless of what you believe about his sex life 30 years earlier, not much of a stretch to think he was telling the truth. L
[FairfieldLife] Priest almost goes to Hell
has NDE, almost goes to Hell; saved by Mary. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqiqO5BzH74
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Ladies lunch
May women attend or is this just for ladies? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Dome Announcements owner-dome-l@... Subject: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Ladies lunch Date: August 6, 2012 10:53:03 AM CDT To: Dome-L dome-l@... All ladies are invited to enjoy lunch together on Wednesday, August 8, 11:45 to 2:00. Get your lunch in the regular line and bring it to the North Dining Hall. This lunch is an opportunity to meet new friends, enjoy the company of old friends, and share our bliss. Let us be together and let us eat together! ps The menu includes Vegetable Lasagna and Cherry Cheesecake Bar pss Please invite your friends. *** DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to owner-dome-l@... Encourage your friends to sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail message to dome-l-request@..., and put the word subscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. To stop receiving DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS, send an e-mail message to: dome-l-request@..., and type the word unsubscribe (without the quotation marks) in the body of the message. Or you can send an email to jkarpen@... to be added or removed from the list.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some facts and background on Robin Carlsen / umasking the zebra
lordknows888, I never encountered Robin before he joined this forum back in June 2011, so I can't address any of what you say about him from his WTS days--except to point out that he has openly acknowledged here how deeply disturbed he was and how painfully he regrets the damage he did back then. However, I do not recognize Robin as you describe him with regard to his participation on FFL. For example: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lord Knows lordknows888@... wrote: snip To put into perspective and accurate chronology your revelation about the Eastern spiritual tradition, it came in 1987 when you told the group that the the mantras we received through TM were the names of demons or fallen angels. It did not come years later after you had purged yourself of your supposed enlightenment.It was while you were still in a self admitted deeply disturbed state that you received this truth, and not as you have represented here as coming years later. It has been my understanding all along from Robin's posts that he disavowed Eastern spiritual traditions not long after he converted to Catholicism in 1987. I don't know which post or posts you're referring to in which you perceived him to have claimed that he did so only after de-enlightening himself. I have to wonder whether you didn't misunderstand something he wrote. snip Robin your record of accuracy on your grand theories and insights is abysmal. A pharmacy student in college is allowed only 3 occasions of lethal errors in making up prescriptions before he is bounced out of the pharmacy department, if you were held to the same standard as a practicing spiritual teacher you would have flunked out a hell of long time ago. He did flunk out a hell of a long time ago, over 25 years ago, in fact. He no longer considers himself a spiritual teacher, practicing or otherwise. Why it is you think anyone would believe and trust what you have to say about religious or metaphysical truth is beyond all reckoning. I have never had the impression that Robin expects anyone to believe and trust what he has to say, any more than the rest of us do concerning what we say. In fact, he frequently says explicitly that he does not expect this. Personally, given the extraordinary trials Robin has been through, given that he's been there, done that to a greater extent than anybody else here, I'm inclined to consider his ideas and reflections on spirituality quite seriously. (Note that I said consider, not adopt.) snip Why have you made yourself now the great teacher of anti- enlightnment with essentially the same way of projecting that you have the inside track on what the truth is? This is really just the same as before, you have only changed the content. You are now the specially gifted one you is the only person in all history to reveal the mystical lie at the heart of the Eastern spiritual traditions I'm sorry, but your tone is so hostile and your characterizations are so unfair and distorted with regard to how Robin actually presents himself on FFL that you've done significant damage to your credibility, as far as I'm concerned. snip Finally Curtis confronted Robin with the deception Robin had been carrying on about not having hit any of his followers when in fact he had. And here you're simply wrong. Robin had 'fessed up to the deception, such as it was, of his own accord, in a post titled How Robin Struck PeopleAnd Lied About it: An Open Letter to Barry Wright: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302421 (You might want to actually read the letter, since it confirms a couple of things I said above.) Curtis had nothing to do with this revelation. Only after the fact did he decide to take his revenge on Robin by excoriating him when he was most vulnerable, in one of the ugliest posts I've ever seen on FFL (although yours approaches it in sheer viciousness). To fill in an additional point about that incident, the person who Robin hit told me he thought his jaw might have been broken by the force of the blow. Yes, we've heard about this incident from another former follower of Robin who posts here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302425?var=1l=1 snip One additional point is about Robin's use of irony, he can not disprove any factual statement through his use of irony, try as he might. I've never observed Robin attempting to disprove a factual statement through the use of irony. Have you? Please note, however, that I've disproved several of your purportedly factual statements. Your account of Robin on FFL is pretty disgracefully sloppy where factual issues are concerned. One would be inclined to have sympathy for you on the basis of the difficult times you endured while you were one of Robin's followers 30-some years ago, if it weren't for the malice with which you attempt to discredit who he is today. It appears to me that you've simply projected your outrage at what you and others had
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself
This has been making the rounds for quite some time (since February, in fact). It's a Photoshop job. Here's the original AP photo: http://i.huffpost.com/gen/490196/thumbs/s-MITT-ROMNEY-RMONEY-large640.jpg Oh, and they aren't Romney's family members either. (Nor is one of the greatest Freudian slips an original line from Barry; he copied it from wherever he found the fudged photo.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in modern politics: [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg] https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\ 41787_1944288480_n.jpg https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\ 341787_1944288480_n.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that is commonly used here by people with a grudge against him. And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong! Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. Um, birthplace is not the same as organ of creation. The two are close together in the female anatomy, but the vagina is just the entrance to and exit from the organ itself (the uterus). As for the cult apologist claims, I honestly don't know which is sadder to contemplate -- that the person knows that the claim of someone hacking Dan's account is ludicrous but said it anyway reflexively because that's just what cult apologists DO, or that the person actually believes it. The latter implies a level of paranoia and self-importance that are right up there with Nabby's claims that people are paid by the CIA or by the Dalai Lama to badrap TM and MMY on Fairfield Life. Not if the cult apologist believes it was another TMer who dunnit.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some facts and background on Robin Carlsen / umasking the zebra
Dear Lord Knows, I don't think it is possible to answer to your accusations here and even try to dispute your account of those years you knew me. I am not the person you depict in your indictment of me. Those who know me best (including persons who were there at the beginning, some 35 years ago, and remain in close contact with me even now) know me as I am. They would not agree with your assessment of my character or my motivation. And they would, in your presence, claim to have a more profound understanding of me than is revealed by what you say about me in your post at FFL. If your judgment is the correct one, there will have to be a consensus about this. And if someone who has known me through these last twenty-five years believes your judgment of me is essentially false, you will have to consider that as contradicting what you so sincerely believe is the truth about me. I certainly am not prepared to defend anything I did during those ten years when I was enlightened--certainly not the incidents you cite in your case against me. But that you have got the person Robin in your sights in a way which is meaningfully related to who I am, there is where I believe you are very much mistaken. I cannot and will not attempt to justify my actions while I was enlightened, but in terms of where I have come since then I do not recognize myself in your portrayal of me here. And either would anyone who has known me through this past quarter of a century. I can never hope to challenge your interpretation of me based upon the evidence you present here during that time you knew me; but in my conscience and in my soul my conviction of the wrongness of your estimation of me now compels me to protest the unfairness, the inaccuracy, and the unnaturalness of your analysis of me. The person Robin is not who you would have me be. I am not that person. In speaking about Eastern or Western traditions I am merely exercising my free speech and what I have to say is based upon my own personal history, my reading, and my sense of what is true. I am not seeking for anyone to follow me, and I doubt that anyone on this forum feels in any way that I am not playing by the rules. Of course you are entitled to your extremely severe appraisal of my sanity and my integrity; and if you are essentially right about me, it is indeed a terrible thing for me to believe, as I do certainly believe, that you are prejudiced and blind in the damning conclusion you have reached about the person that I am. Now. Only good, however, can come from someone who speaks as you have spoken, and who has laid out the case against me in the way that you have. I suppose it was inevitable that this would happen. And I am glad it has. In the end it will be what the Creator makes of all this that counts, and I hope that he sees things more from my perspective than from your perspective. I will pray for you, as you evidently have already prayed for me. Robin --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lord Knows lordknows888@... wrote: Dear Robin, I know you well, I was in the inner circle of your followers. I lived in the group house you named Annapurna in Victoria. I fully experienced what ultimately became a waking nightmare in being a member of your cult. I have a vivid memory of the day when a member of the group who had been extremely close to you attempted suicide after you ruthlessly confronted her and declared her to be an evil being who was only appearing in the guise of a human being. I remember the meeting at Heronwater in which you spoke with ice cold disdain about her when the news came of her attempted suicide, your only concern was to send someone to her apartment to collect any items from her belongings that could connect her to you. This is a fact, a horrible ugly fact which could be verified by all the people in that room, about 15 members of the inner circle.I am not proud of my involvement in this and many other heartless atrocities that took place over the years I was associated with you. In due time my turn came to be on the receiving end of an ultimate pronouncement on my soul as being irretrievably lost and after being brutally confronted by you and the whole group I was ejected from the cult with great scorn. This was the standard operating procedure and happened to many others over the years. Robin I have a simple question for you, what in your background gives you the the standing, the credibility to make pronouncements about the ultimate value of the Eastern Spiritual tradition and declare the death of Christianity? I would have thought that if you were truly remorseful for the harm you had done to so many people, the last thing you would have wanted to do is to give into the temptation to represent yourself as an authority capable of passing judgment on whole spiritual traditions as well as in some instances making harsh judgments about