[FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute

2012-08-06 Thread merudanda


Oh friends, not these tones!
 Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing
 And more joyful sounds!
 Joy! (Joy!)


So lets the  active and lurking 1160  or so  member of FFL  sing
together with Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join  with
our  10 000 amateur chorus singers  Far Eastern brother/sister/friends
in this moving tribute to all the victims of the Fukushima disaster.
Let's join in this a strikingDaiku environment(Daiku suggests a
relationship to the word haiku  but with digital shorts- a portal
between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic component)
and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, conducted
by a student of my friend  Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved
Karajan

http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028
http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028
 Joy, beautiful spark of the gods*
 Daughter of Elysium,
 We enter, drunk with fire,
 Heavenly one, your sanctuary!
 Your magic reunites
 What custom's sword  strictly divided.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls


PS
  *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great
bosom of nature. No thought can go so far...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response






[FairfieldLife] 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it:

The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'...

This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of C.C.
When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'...

Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra...

Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C. and U.C. to 
continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of the Surface Values 
at the Same Time'...

This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent, Unmanifest 
and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness...

Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of 'Maintaining 
the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing the Fluctions of 
Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the non-linear sense of time, the 
vertical sense of space, the feeling of the Prana coming in and going out, the 
flow of life within and without

All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of 
Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'...

Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest 
Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time...

Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'...

This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in the 
'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent Intellect that is 
always in the 'Flow of the Divine'...

Jai Guru Dev



[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ It's Only Love'..

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNYJ3g3KbA0feature=related



[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ Girl'..

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVr_6kE1vio



[FairfieldLife] The Beatles - If I Fell (HQ)

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPKYPI1jjdgfeature=related



[FairfieldLife] 'The Beatles~ I'm Happy Just to Dance With YOu'..

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YitKiVZ8E



[FairfieldLife] Brahma Sutras~ Chap. 1 section 1 synopsis

2012-08-06 Thread Robert

This sec tion gives a bird's-eye view of the sub ject dealt with in
the Brahma Sutras namely the na ture of the Su preme Brah man or the
High est Self, of the in di vid ual soul and the uni verse and their inter-re -
la tions and gives hints on med i ta tion on Brah man.
Adhikarana I: Su tra 1 gives a hint that the book is meant for
those who are en dowed with a real de sire for at tain ing the knowl edge
of Brah man.
Adhikarana II: Su tra 2 de fines Brah man as that whence the
world orig i nates etc.
Adhikarana III: Su tra 3 de clares that Brah man is the source of
the Vedas and that Brah man is known only by the study of Sruti and
by no other means of knowl edge.
Adhikarana IV: Su tra 4 proves Brah man to be the uni form topic
of all Vedanta texts.
Adhikarana V: Sutras 5 to 11 show that none but Brah man is ad -
mit ted by Sruti to be the cause of the world. They prove by var i ous co -
gent and con vinc ing ar gu ments that the Brah man which the Vedantic
texts pro claim as the cause of the uni verse is an in tel li gent prin ci ple,
and can not be iden ti fied with the non-in tel li gent or in sen tient
Pradhana from which the world orig i nates, as de clared by the
Sankhyas.
Adhikarana VI: Sutras 12 to 19 raise the ques tion whether the
`Anandamaya' in Taittiriya Upanishad II-5 is merely the in di vid ual soul
or the Su preme Self. The Sutras show that Brah man is All-Bliss and
that by the term `Anandamaya' in Sruti is meant nei ther the in di vid ual
soul, nor the Pradhana of Sankhyas. The Sutras prove that they all
de scribe none but Brah man.
Adhikarana VII: Sutras 20 and 21, show that the golden per son
seen within the sun and the per son seen within the eye men tioned in
Chh. Up. I-6 are not some in di vid ual soul of high em i nence, but the
high est Brah man or the Su preme Self.
Adhikarana VIII: Su tra 22 shows that the ether (Akasa) from
which ac cord ing to Chh. Up. I-9 all be ings orig i nate, is not the el e -
men tal ether but the Su preme Brah man.
Adhikarana IX: Su tra 23 shows that Prana, also men tioned in
Chh. Up. I-11-15 is the Su preme Brah man.
Adhikarana X: Sutras 24 to 27 teach that the light spo ken of in
Chh. Up. III-13-7 is not the or di nary phys i cal light but the Su preme
Brah man.
Adhikarana XI: Sutras 28 to 31 de cide that the Prana men tioned
in Kau. Up. III-2 is Brah man.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!

2012-08-06 Thread John
NASA timed this landing perfectly along with the Olympics.  They won the gold 
medal tonight, and rightfully so!



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 Man, that was fun to watch. What a bunch of ecstatically
 happy folks. I've never seen so many people hugging so
 many other people. There must have been 10 minutes straight
 of hugs and high-fives after they got the first telemetry
 back that Curiosity had landed safely.
 
 Wonderful headline on the NYTimes Lede live blog of the
 landing, on the item explaining that it takes 14 minutes
 for the data to get from Mars back to earth, so they
 didn't know the landing was successful until 14 minutes
 later:
 
 Whatever Has Happened Has Already Happened.
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Cheers!
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html
 





[FairfieldLife] 'Mantra by Swami R'

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
 
Use of Mantra
·  chanting mantra aloud
·  chanting mantra
internally
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  parrot-like repetition
·  repetition with feeling
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  repeating mantra with
conscious willpower
·  allowing mantra to arise
and repeat itself
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  intentionally repeating
mantra fast
·  allowing mantra to come
at its own speed
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  with mala (using the
active senses)
·  without mala (not using
the active senses)
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  counting mantras
·  not counting mantras
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  mantra as word/meaning
·  mantra as a feeling
·  mantra as constant
awareness
·  mantra as soundless
sound, silence
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  not allowing mantra to
lead you to silence
·  allowing mantra to lead
you to silence
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  internally speaking or
reciting the mantra
·  internally listening to or
remembering the
mantra
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  pushing away thoughts
with mantra
·  allowing thoughts to go
through the mind before
remembering the mantra
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  approach that japa
means reciting mantra
·  approach that japa
means listening to mantra
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
·  approach that ajapa
japa means automatic
repetition of mantra
·  approach that ajapa
japa means constant
awareness of mantra
more external
(gross)
more internal
(subtle)
25
20.12.97 SRmisc1
The subtle aspects of mantra
A mantra has four bodies or koshas (sheaths). First, as a word, it has a 
meaning; another
more subtle form is its feeling; still more subtle is a deep, intense and 
constant awareness or
presence, and the fourth or most subtle level of the mantra is soundless sound. 
Many students
continue repeating or muttering their mantra throughout life, but they never 
attain a state of ajapa
japa—the state of constant awareness without any effort. Such a student 
strengthens his
awareness, but meditates on the gross level only.
—The Art of Joyful Living, p. 231
Mantra should be repeated with meaning and feeling; parrot-like repetition is 
not of much
use. Repeating mantra merely with the rosary [mala] and tongue is a very 
inferior sadhana. It
won't do merely to complete a given count
—Book of Wisdom, p. 33
To go to the subtler aspect of mantra, then you, like the sages, must go to the 
silence. You
go to the silence, you go to the silence, you go to the silence.
—Path of Fire and Light, Vol. II, pp. 140, 164
My way of using the mantra is different from yours, because I do not want to 
fool around
with the process. I sit down, and I observe my whole being listening to the 
mantra. I do not
remember the mantra or repeat the mantra mentally, because then the mind 
repeats many things.
Instead I make my whole being an ear to hear the mantra, and the mantra is 
coming from
everywhere. This will not happen to you immediately in meditation, but when you 
have attained or
accomplished something, then this will happen to you.
—The Art of Joyful Living, pp. 127-128
Clearing the clouded mind
The mind usually remains clouded, confused, and undisciplined in the external 
world,
where everything seems to move and change. Because the mind itself is confused, 
even learning
how to collect data correctly, or accurately perceive the external world, is a 
serious problem. For
meditators, it becomes possible to collect the data and impressions exactly as 
they are. Such a
person sees things clearly, while in contrast, the clouded mind remains 
distorted and dissipated.
—Meditation and Its Practice, pp. 91-92
When the senses are untrained, they will give you distorted input and that 
creates constant
confusion within. If you have accepted that there is confusion in your mind, 
and if you understand
that, then nothing will lead you astray. But if you don't have that 
understanding, and if you enjoy
that confusion, then your mind will create chaos within. That confuses you even 
more, and there
will be no end to your confusion.
—The Art of Joyful Living, p. 163
Purifying buddhi is the most important task
Saucha means cleanliness and purity, both of the body and the mind. Purity of 
the body is
easily practiced, but purity of the mind needs a sincere, honest, and constant 
effort. And once
purity of mind is attained, then one is fully prepared for the inner voyage. To 
achieve this state,
one should cultivate constant awareness by being mindful all the time. To 
purify the buddhi, or the
faculty of discrimination is the most important task.
When one remains always aware of one's thoughts and learns to discriminate 
between pure
and impure thoughts, helpful and disturbing thoughts, he develops the sense of 
determination and
strengthens his will, and thus does not allow the seeds of impure thoughts to 
grow within. 

[FairfieldLife] Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Duveyoung
Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth.  But maybe with 
some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the 
chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.  



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'

2012-08-06 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:

  
 Use of Mantra
 ·  chanting mantra aloud
 ·  chanting mantra
 internally
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  parrot-like repetition
 ·  repetition with feeling
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)

Yee-haw! Prolly one of the most informative posts I've ever
read on FFL! :D



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
'The Soundless Sound of the Mantra, Is the Beginning of the Understanding and 
the Experience of Brahm'.

This 'Wholeness of Awareness' is called 'Brahm'...

Brahm is All That There Is...Wholeness is  Brahm...

This Brahm is Atma...

All this Brahm...All This Wholeness is Atma is the Unlimited Soul of the 
Creator, Brahm'...

All This Wholeness of Brahm in my awareness...

Allows Brahman Consciousness to be more lively in the 'Collective Consciousness 
of Humanity'...

Brahman Consciousness is 'All That There Is'...nothing is 'Excluded'...

Therefore, any thought, emotion, intellectual understanding/perception, ah ha 
experience of wholenss, is how 'Brahman Consciousnes Becomes Established'...

It takes some time, to extablish Brahman Consciousness...

It takes some time to allow the wholenss to penetrate all that there is...

It's an alowing process, and little by little, the 'Unbounded Awaresess Begins 
to Overtake the Bounded Emotions, Perceptions, Understandings of the Intellect' 
and so the 'Final Step Toward Full Enlightenment' comes through continued 
practice of 'Maintaining the Witnessing Self-Referral Awareness'...along with 
awareness of boundaries...and thus more and more, allow Beingness to Overflow 
Throughout this Creation in this space and in this time...

Jai Guru Dev



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'

2012-08-06 Thread merudanda
SWAMI R
not unknown to FFL since he spent a considerable portion of his life
teaching, specifically in the United States and Europe.
Swami Rama (Brij Kishore Dhasmana)Shankaracharya of Karvirpitham(From
1949 to 1952)his teachers Bengali Baba, who is disciple of Mahavatar
Baba, known as Babaji.
Book quoted from
www.swamij.com/pdf/swamiramateachings.pdf
www.swamij.com/pdf/swamiramateachings.pdf

Be happy and fearless. Remember that you are a child of Divinity. Loss
and gain cannot even touch your shadow.
http://www.sonofaswami.com/bioSwamiRama.html
http://www.sonofaswami.com/bioSwamiRama.html
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:


 Use of Mantra
 ·  chanting mantra aloud
 ·  chanting mantra
 internally
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  parrot-like repetition
 ·  repetition with feeling
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  repeating mantra with
 conscious willpower
 ·  allowing mantra to arise
 and repeat itself
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  intentionally repeating
 mantra fast
 ·  allowing mantra to come
 at its own speed
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  with mala (using the
 active senses)
 ·  without mala (not using
 the active senses)
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  counting mantras
 ·  not counting mantras
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  mantra as word/meaning
 ·  mantra as a feeling
 ·  mantra as constant
 awareness
 ·  mantra as soundless
 sound, silence
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  not allowing mantra to
 lead you to silence
 ·  allowing mantra to lead
 you to silence
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  internally speaking or
 reciting the mantra
 ·  internally listening to or
 remembering the
 mantra
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  pushing away thoughts
 with mantra
 ·  allowing thoughts to go
 through the mind before
 remembering the mantra
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  approach that japa
 means reciting mantra
 ·  approach that japa
 means listening to mantra
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 ·  approach that ajapa
 japa means automatic
 repetition of mantra
 ·  approach that ajapa
 japa means constant
 awareness of mantra
 more external
 (gross)
 more internal
 (subtle)
 25
 20.12.97 SRmisc1
 The subtle aspects of mantra
 A mantra has four bodies or koshas (sheaths). First, as a word, it has
a meaning; another
 more subtle form is its feeling; still more subtle is a deep, intense
and constant awareness or
 presence, and the fourth or most subtle level of the mantra is
soundless sound. Many students
 continue repeating or muttering their mantra throughout life, but they
never attain a state of ajapa
 japa—the state of constant awareness without any effort. Such a
student strengthens his
 awareness, but meditates on the gross level only.
 —The Art of Joyful Living, p. 231
 Mantra should be repeated with meaning and feeling; parrot-like
repetition is not of much
 use. Repeating mantra merely with the rosary [mala] and tongue is a
very inferior sadhana. It
 won't do merely to complete a given count
 —Book of Wisdom, p. 33
 To go to the subtler aspect of mantra, then you, like the sages, must
go to the silence. You
 go to the silence, you go to the silence, you go to the silence.
 —Path of Fire and Light, Vol. II, pp. 140, 164
 My way of using the mantra is different from yours, because I do not
want to fool around
 with the process. I sit down, and I observe my whole being listening
to the mantra. I do not
 remember the mantra or repeat the mantra mentally, because then the
mind repeats many things.
 Instead I make my whole being an ear to hear the mantra, and the
mantra is coming from
 everywhere. This will not happen to you immediately in meditation, but
when you have attained or
 accomplished something, then this will happen to you.
 —The Art of Joyful Living, pp. 127-128
 Clearing the clouded mind
 The mind usually remains clouded, confused, and undisciplined in the
external world,
 where everything seems to move and change. Because the mind itself is
confused, even learning
 how to collect data correctly, or accurately perceive the external
world, is a serious problem. For
 meditators, it becomes possible to collect the data and impressions
exactly as they are. Such a
 person sees things clearly, while in contrast, the clouded mind
remains distorted and dissipated.
 —Meditation and Its Practice, pp. 91-92
 When the senses are untrained, they will give you distorted input and
that creates constant
 confusion within. If you have accepted that there is confusion in your
mind, and if you understand
 that, then nothing will lead you astray. But if you don't have that
understanding, and if you enjoy
 that confusion, then your mind will create chaos within. That confuses
you even more, and there
 will be no end to your confusion.
 —The Art of Joyful 

[FairfieldLife] 'The Pretenders~Live Aid/1985/Middle of the Road'...

2012-08-06 Thread Robert
'Look for Jack Nickelson as end of tape'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjUavQeWG9A



[FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread turquoiseb
Hi Dan (or whoever you are),

Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible
for me to not notice that its posters are being told 
by one of the group's professional cult apologists 
that the person who made the recent inflammatory, 
profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th
was not you. The cult apologist claims that your
account had obviously been hacked, and that it's
not really you.

Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just
suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated 
(the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would
come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker,
decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering
a few questions about it?

1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into 
danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you
were going to post the rants intended to make him
look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield
Life?

2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's 
consistent bad spelling? 

3. How did you decide which other posters to
reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you 
could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made 
you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of
the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at
in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being
anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you
plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look 
bad?

4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to 
spray with invective, how did you know what their
common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
atory and insulting permutation of his posting 
ID that is commonly used here by people with a 
grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him
at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb
turq and turqy, again almost as if you were
very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this
forum by his detractors. How did you know all this?

5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post
that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made
all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling
better and a little more sane now? I hope so.

6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned 
or both) that set you off and caused you to 
embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular
practice of TM cause (as one person suggested)
some roughness of awareness? Does this happen
to you often?

7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional
cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really
you making these posts, or is that something 
that professional cult apologists just DO when
a member of their cult embarrasses it?

Thanks for taking the time to answer these 
questions, and I really hope you come back to
visit us soon, and after having imbibed in
the same substances that inspired you last
time. As I said before, the more often that
long-term TM practitioners such as yourself
*demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has
done for them, and what balanced and happy
individuals they've become as a result, the
more new people will learn TM.

Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...





[FairfieldLife] USA in bolt?

2012-08-06 Thread cardemaister

Are Obama and, say, Usain Bolt the first symptoms of a possible
future Afro-American rule of the world? :D



[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in his youth, 
 was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the Indian Navy as a 
 youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and became a great Yogi and then 
 exited as he made someone else exitthrough murder.

He was a soldier and killed many people, that's not murder in the ususal 
meaning of the world.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...

2012-08-06 Thread sparaig
Not some lecture that I was privy to...

Did he perchance say what the signs of this time were when you come to the end 
of practice?

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@... wrote:

 Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it:
 
 The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'...
 
 This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of C.C.
 When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'...
 
 Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra...
 
 Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C. and U.C. 
 to continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of the Surface 
 Values at the Same Time'...
 
 This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent, Unmanifest 
 and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness...
 
 Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of 
 'Maintaining the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing the 
 Fluctions of Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the non-linear 
 sense of time, the vertical sense of space, the feeling of the Prana coming 
 in and going out, the flow of life within and without
 
 All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of 
 Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'...
 
 Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest 
 Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time...
 
 Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'...
 
 This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in the 
 'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent Intellect that is 
 always in the 'Flow of the Divine'...
 
 Jai Guru Dev





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread sparaig
Speaking of posting while intoxicated...

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Hi Dan (or whoever you are),
 
 Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible
 for me to not notice that its posters are being told 
 by one of the group's professional cult apologists 
 that the person who made the recent inflammatory, 
 profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th
 was not you. The cult apologist claims that your
 account had obviously been hacked, and that it's
 not really you.
 
 Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just
 suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated 
 (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would
 come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker,
 decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering
 a few questions about it?
 
 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into 
 danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you
 were going to post the rants intended to make him
 look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield
 Life?
 
 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's 
 consistent bad spelling? 
 
 3. How did you decide which other posters to
 reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you 
 could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made 
 you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of
 the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at
 in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being
 anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you
 plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look 
 bad?
 
 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to 
 spray with invective, how did you know what their
 common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
 I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
 atory and insulting permutation of his posting 
 ID that is commonly used here by people with a 
 grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him
 at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb
 turq and turqy, again almost as if you were
 very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this
 forum by his detractors. How did you know all this?
 
 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post
 that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made
 all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling
 better and a little more sane now? I hope so.
 
 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned 
 or both) that set you off and caused you to 
 embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular
 practice of TM cause (as one person suggested)
 some roughness of awareness? Does this happen
 to you often?
 
 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional
 cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really
 you making these posts, or is that something 
 that professional cult apologists just DO when
 a member of their cult embarrasses it?
 
 Thanks for taking the time to answer these 
 questions, and I really hope you come back to
 visit us soon, and after having imbibed in
 the same substances that inspired you last
 time. As I said before, the more often that
 long-term TM practitioners such as yourself
 *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has
 done for them, and what balanced and happy
 individuals they've become as a result, the
 more new people will learn TM.
 
 Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...





[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Footprint in South Africa

2012-08-06 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Oh that's BS. Lucy carved that as a practicle joke.
 
  
 
 
  From: John jr_esq@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 2:52 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giant Footprint in South Africa
   
 
  
    
  
 It could be millions of years old.  If true, who were they?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpNR=1v=dRuxw-nZoJw


Mr. Klaus Dona (German??) reveals the one inconsistency
in the footprint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qZnieFvNsfeature=relmfu



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...

2012-08-06 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

  
  All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness of 
  Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'...
  

NBD, but there might be such a word in *transliterated* Hindi,
whilst certainly not in Sanskrit, where the proper spelling
of the neuter nominative / accusative form of that word (without
sandhi) is 'brahma', as in 

brahma-suutras
ayam aatmaa brahma
sarvaM khalvidaM (khalu + idam) brahma
ahaM brahmaasmi (brahma + asmi), etc.

http://translate.google.fi/#hi/en/%E0%A4%AC%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%B9%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AE



[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!

2012-08-06 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 NASA timed this landing perfectly

Disagree! They should have scheduled the landing at least three hours earlier 
so that it would happen before my bedtime. In any event, it was great to wake 
up to good news this morning.



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...

2012-08-06 Thread merudanda
see Swami Rama [:D]   Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316301
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 Not some lecture that I was privy to...

 Did he perchance say what the signs of this time were when you come to
the end of practice?

 L

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
  Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it:
 
  The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'...
 
  This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of
C.C.
  When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'...
 
  Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra...
 
  Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C.
and U.C. to continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of
the Surface Values at the Same Time'...
 
  This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent,
Unmanifest and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness...
 
  Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of
'Maintaining the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing
the Fluctions of Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the
non-linear sense of time, the vertical sense of space, the feeling of
the Prana coming in and going out, the flow of life within and
without
 
  All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness
of Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'...
 
  Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest
Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time...
 
  Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'...
 
  This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in
the 'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent
Intellect that is always in the 'Flow of the Divine'...
 
  Jai Guru Dev
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Giant Footprint in South Africa

2012-08-06 Thread merudanda
http://www.michaeltellinger.com/video-clips.php
http://www.michaeltellinger.com/video-clips.php
http://www.cmn.tv/videos/michael-tellinger-on-cnbc-africa-7-may-2012-con\
stitutional-court-case/
http://www.cmn.tv/videos/michael-tellinger-on-cnbc-africa-7-may-2012-co\
nstitutional-court-case/
Adam's Calendar  Ancient Ruins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l7EJkTa3EY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l7EJkTa3EY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
 
  Oh that's BS. Lucy carved that as a practicle joke.
 
 
 
  
   From: John jr_esq@
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 2:52 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Giant Footprint in South Africa
 
 
 
  Â
 
  It could be millions of years old.  If true, who were they?
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwpNR=1v=dRuxw-nZoJw
 

 Mr. Klaus Dona (German??) reveals the one inconsistency
 in the footprint:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7qZnieFvNsfeature=relmfu




[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!

2012-08-06 Thread turquoiseb
Sad but predictable consequence of the Curiosity landing:

  [http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg

:-)






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread Share Long
So many ways to be intoxicated...




 From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 5:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan 
Friedman
 

  
Speaking of posting while intoxicated...

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Hi Dan (or whoever you are),
 
 Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible
 for me to not notice that its posters are being told 
 by one of the group's professional cult apologists 
 that the person who made the recent inflammatory, 
 profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th
 was not you. The cult apologist claims that your
 account had obviously been hacked, and that it's
 not really you.
 
 Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just
 suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated 
 (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would
 come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker,
 decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering
 a few questions about it?
 
 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into 
 danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you
 were going to post the rants intended to make him
 look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield
 Life?
 
 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's 
 consistent bad spelling? 
 
 3. How did you decide which other posters to
 reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you 
 could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made 
 you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of
 the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at
 in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being
 anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you
 plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look 
 bad?
 
 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to 
 spray with invective, how did you know what their
 common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
 I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
 atory and insulting permutation of his posting 
 ID that is commonly used here by people with a 
 grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him
 at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb
 turq and turqy, again almost as if you were
 very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this
 forum by his detractors. How did you know all this?
 
 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post
 that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made
 all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling
 better and a little more sane now? I hope so.
 
 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned 
 or both) that set you off and caused you to 
 embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular
 practice of TM cause (as one person suggested)
 some roughness of awareness? Does this happen
 to you often?
 
 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional
 cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really
 you making these posts, or is that something 
 that professional cult apologists just DO when
 a member of their cult embarrasses it?
 
 Thanks for taking the time to answer these 
 questions, and I really hope you come back to
 visit us soon, and after having imbibed in
 the same substances that inspired you last
 time. As I said before, the more often that
 long-term TM practitioners such as yourself
 *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has
 done for them, and what balanced and happy
 individuals they've become as a result, the
 more new people will learn TM.
 
 Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Susan wrote:

I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that  
Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not  
(meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate).



MMY claimed in his last interview with Larry King on CCN to be a monk.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 5, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in  
his youth, was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the  
Indian Navy as a youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and  
became a great Yogi and then exited as he made someone else  
exitthrough murder.



Yes, I remember hearing this story.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ganapati Sthapati dead

2012-08-06 Thread Share Long
Dr. J, thank you for posting as I wasn't on FFL last year.  Wonderful to read 
his interview.  

Share
PS in spirit of Loren and Hepburn:  everything you see I owe to baby bok choy 
and toasted peanut butter and jelly sandwiches (-:




 From: Dr. Jessie jmer...@vastu2vaastu.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ganapati Sthapati dead
 

  
We will be approaching the anniversary of the death of my teacher of Vaastu 
Shastras next month-  Dr. V. Ganapati Sthapati. Each January I would visit 
Sthapati in Chennai and study with him.  Without fail later in the month I 
would walk into his office and he would be speaking on the phone with Maharishi 
who had just called Sthapati the moment before I walked in.  It was uncanny.  
Even nearing the last year of his life Maharishi would call him.  It was really 
wonderful to listen to these two men speak together. They both had the same 
goal:  the well being of humanity.

Sthapati's family is one of the oldest living families who have passed down 
Vaastu Shastras in its purity for several thousand years. 

I miss Sthapati and Maharishi.  Two of the greatest beings of our times.

Thanks for making the below post last year. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:51 PM, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote:
 
  He was given the highest honor from Maharishi as the greatest living
  authority but they did not work together much and their systems of Vaastu
  differ in some respects. Here is an interview in which he credits Vaastu
  with prolonging his life beyond what was predicted by Jyotish.
 
 
  http://www.sify.com/news/i-escaped-death-because-of-vaastu-ganapati-sthapati-news-features-jixmfkhcdae.html
 
 
 Everything you see I owe to spaghetti.
  Sophie Loren
 
 What you see before you, my friend, is the result of a lifetime of
 chocolate. A pound a day often.
 Katharine Hepburn



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!

2012-08-06 Thread Share Long
Garfield?!  no no it cannot be true!  Say it isn't so...




 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 6:17 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!
 

  
Sad but predictable consequence of the Curiosity landing:



http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7724507328_56a317ddaf.jpg 

:-)




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to
spray with invective, how did you know what their
common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
atory and insulting permutation of his posting
ID that is commonly used here by people with a
grudge against him.


And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like  
the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one  
wrong!

[FairfieldLife] FF temps finally lower than Eureka/Humboldt (-:

2012-08-06 Thread Share Long
Hi Marek, according to weather we're at 52, you all at 57.  Yah!  
Autumn in the air.  Well, at least this morning (-:


[FairfieldLife] Mitt just can't help himself

2012-08-06 Thread turquoiseb
Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing
T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in
the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in
modern politics:

 
[https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
341787_1944288480_n.jpg]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\
41787_1944288480_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
341787_1944288480_n.jpg



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to
  spray with invective, how did you know what their
  common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
  I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
  atory and insulting permutation of his posting
  ID that is commonly used here by people with a
  grudge against him.
 
 And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like  
 the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one  
 wrong!

Boy, did you ever. You better take an anatomy lesson and realize the vagina 
doesn't create anything, and certainly not babies! Think of it more as a 
slippery slope.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'

2012-08-06 Thread Richard J. Williams


Robert: 
 Use of Mantra...

The Aryan-speakers brought 'Mantra Yoga' to South 
Asia before 1500 BCE, but 'bija' mantras came much 
later, after the rise of the bhakti sects. Bija 
mantras do not occur in the Vedas or in the Brahma 
Sutra.

At some point, we all are going to have to face the 
historical facts: the bija mantras used in both 
Tantric Buddhism and in Hindu Yoga are made-up sounds 
that are found in any common household, heard around 
the house every day, or from the sounds found in 
nature. Bija mantras are NOT revealed or cognized or 
'seen' by the monad or by some mythical 'rishi'. 

All mantric practices stem from the ancient 
shamnistic practice of Oddiyana, that is, Buddhists 
of Trans-Himalya, hence to India. The Mantrayna was 
adopted, with modifications, by the Shiva and 
Vaishanava sects as Hindu tantricism following the 
Gupta Age.

For example, the bija mantra 'phat' is called the 
astral 'weapon' bija used as an aggressive mantra 
from the earliest times. The sound of phat, to the 
Indian ear, conveys the sensation of explosion. 

According to Bharati, in Hindi, 'phat' is a very 
common colloquial household term for 'burst, 
explode', in both intransitive and transitive use, 
as in a two wheeled, two-stroke, motorized rickshaw, 
thus a 'phata phata'!

From this, a causative verb is formed. The 
motor-cycle rickshaw in Delhi is called 'phat phata' 
by its drivers; phatki is a fire-cracker. 

Once a syllable like this has been accepted into 
esoteric usage, analogous syllables will readily 
follow, such as a nickname for God, as in Agnihotra, 
i.e., fire from the root 'hot'. 

If the onomatopoetic datum can be linked with part 
of a meaningful morpheme, a more complex mantra 
would grow of their combination (116).

Phat: (pronounced 'fot') phoneme; Buddhist Hybrid
Sanskrit; causative verb? 1. crack! 2. snap! 3. pop! 
4. Meaningless sound. 5. gibberish. 6. bija mantra 
- sometimes referred to as the weapon mantra also, 
in that it destroys obstacles.

Read more:

http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/

Works cited:

'The Tantric Tradition'
by Swami Ageananda Bharati
Rider, 1965



[FairfieldLife] Beautiful Crop Circle in the USA

2012-08-06 Thread nablusoss1008



Geibs' fields near Wilbur. Washington. Reported 24th July
Map Ref:
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Updated Monday 6th August 2012
AERIAL SHOTS GROUND SHOTS DIAGRAMS FIELD REPORTS ARTICLES



All aerial Images Rod Hoekstra Copyright 2012

Kite Aerial Photography of Crop Circles, near Wilbur, Washington, USA,
Aug 2, 2012


I am extremely excited to present these kite aerial photography images
of crop circles in Eastern Washington. Last night I came across a news
story that said that crop circles had shown up in a fairly remote part
of the state, and I thought about it all night and this morning after
getting a few things done in Seattle I threw my KAP kit together and
drove east. The drive was about 4 hours, and I had no idea if I was
going to get good wind, good lighting conditions, or even whether or not
the farmer had already harvested the field. I was extremely fortunate in
that everything worked out perfectly, and I got this and several other
good images. Crop circles in Washington are quite rare, this is the
third one in roughly the same area in about as many years. Personal
opinions about how these are formed varied a great deal with the people
I spoke with in the area. When I arrived someone was just leaving and
muttering about microwave radiation. Others were convinced young kids
had done it, and one person thought the farmers themselves had done it.
Regardless, I was very excited to have the opportunity to see crop
circles, something I've never been able to see before in my life.





All aerial Images Rod Hoekstra Copyright 2012

The wind conditions were very good, a little bit of variability, but not
much. At one point the wind died completely, I had to haul in my quite
very quickly in order to not land it in unmolested wheat, and when I was
able to launch it again later the wind direction had shifted. There are
close up blurry photos of trampled wheat during that segment.

Kite Aerial Photography Group

Technical Details:
6' Rok Kite
Canon S90, using CHDK
Brooxes Simplex Rig



  http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
Make a donation to keep the web site alive... Thank you
Washington farm is the latest site of mysterious crop circles `We
had aliens attack us … you know, I guess,' farmer Greg Geib says
with a laugh.  By Anthony Bartkewicz / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Tuesday, July
31, 2012, 12:45 PM  What caused the massive crop circles on a field at
Greg Geib's Washington state wheat farm?
What caused the massive crop circles on a field at Greg Geib's
Washington state wheat farm? We had aliens attack us … you
know, I guess, he told KHQ-TV. Greg's wife Cindy thinks it
would be kind of cool if it really were aliens, but doesn't
seem to think it's likely. The elaborate designs were pressed into
the Geibs' fields near Wilbur, Wash., last week. Whoever – or
whatever – made them strikes area fields every year or two,
according to local farmers. I guess this year it was our turn,
Cindy Geib said. Though some people believe that crop circles are the
work of visiting extraterrestrials, the phenomenon began in the 1970s
when admitted hoaxers Doug Bower and Dave Chorley started carving the
elaborate designs into British farmers' fields.

KHQ Right Now - News and Weather for Spokane and North Idaho | 
http://www.khq.com/


[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself

2012-08-06 Thread Richard J. Williams


  turquoiseb:
 pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in
 modern politics:
 
You still working for IBM? LoL!

What do you do when everybody's claiming your president 
said something, and you just know he didn't really say 
it, but all the video and all the audio and all the 
transcripts show that he did say it?

http://tinyurl.com/7c79njk 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Susan wrote:
 
  I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that  
  Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not  
  (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate).
 
 
 MMY claimed in his last interview with Larry King on CCN to be a monk.


Monk doesn't mean celibate, as the Vaj-fellow should know. A monk is 
self-suffiscient, no need for wife.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Wants Something Dramatic to Aid Economy

2012-08-06 Thread Richard J. Williams


  Romney Wants Something Dramatic to Aid Economy
 
Bhairitu: 
 He's bluffing just to get the vote...

You say Malivinas,
Obama sez Maldives,
One is the Falklands,
the others almost Ceylonese,
Corpseman, Oree-on,
Austrian words for cretin?
Oh lets call the whole thing off

http://tinyurl.com/cf8jp2w



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself

2012-08-06 Thread nablusoss1008

It\s so funny one suspects it's photoshopped, but it's not :-)




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing
 T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in
 the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in
 modern politics:



[https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
\
 341787_1944288480_n.jpg]


https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\
\
 41787_1944288480_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
\
 341787_1944288480_n.jpg






[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to
  spray with invective, how did you know what their
  common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
  I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
  atory and insulting permutation of his posting
  ID that is commonly used here by people with a
  grudge against him.
 
 And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness 
 being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy 
 did I get that one wrong!

Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet:

A Woman's Sex

It has the original mouth but remains wordless;
It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair.
Sentient beings can get completely lost in it
But it is also the birthplace 
of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. 


As for the cult apologist claims, I honestly don't know 
which is sadder to contemplate -- that the person knows
that the claim of someone hacking Dan's account is 
ludicrous but said it anyway reflexively because that's
just what cult apologists DO, or that the person actually
believes it. The latter implies a level of paranoia and
self-importance that are right up there with Nabby's
claims that people are paid by the CIA or by the Dalai
Lama to badrap TM and MMY on Fairfield Life. 




Re: [FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
Maybe it really is Dan after developing Turrets syndrome. Poor guy! 
F...f..f.. Ket!

 


 From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan 
Friedman
  

   
 


On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to 
spray with invective, how did you know what their
common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
atory and insulting permutation of his posting 
ID that is commonly used here by people with a 
grudge against him.

And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like the organ 
that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one wrong!   
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:33 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet:

A Woman's Sex

It has the original mouth but remains wordless;
It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair.
Sentient beings can get completely lost in it
But it is also the birthplace
of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds.


Whew!

I was concerned this could mean that after age 50 I became a cougar- 
like being that stalks younger men or even worse: I bleed and become  
irritable on a monthly basis!


I'm totally cool with being the birthplace of all the Buddhas of the  
ten thousand worlds. What a compliment...thanks Dan!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!

2012-08-06 Thread martyboi
I agree this is big news and I'm quite enthusiastic about it...but many of my 
associates show little interest.

Seems like it's getting very little play in the media...perhaps the Olympics 
overshadows it a bit...or landing rovers on Mars has become so 2004?

When the high quality image stream starts, we'll see more interest. Better yet, 
if they detect an algae or such, then we'll see some momentum forming

.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 NASA timed this landing perfectly along with the Olympics.  They won the gold 
 medal tonight, and rightfully so!
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread Share Long
Master Ann prefigured by Zen Master, both wise.  But she also inspiring 
slippery laughter.  Me leaving off smiley to thank M Ann who doesn't like such.



Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet:

A Woman's Sex

It has the original mouth but remains wordless;
It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair.
Sentient beings can get completely lost in it
But it is also the birthplace 
of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds. 



 From: awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 8:42 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan 
Friedman
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to
  spray with invective, how did you know what their
  common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
  I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
  atory and insulting permutation of his posting
  ID that is commonly used here by people with a
  grudge against him.
 
 And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness being like 
 the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy did I get that one 
 wrong!

Boy, did you ever. You better take an anatomy lesson and realize the vagina 
doesn't create anything, and certainly not babies! Think of it more as a 
slippery slope.



 

[FairfieldLife] One for Nabby: Domes of Gold - YouTube

2012-08-06 Thread Rick Archer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlffubR2N9Y 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute

2012-08-06 Thread Share Long
thank you thank you thank you for this so beautiful.  And for Yoko too so 
heartfelt




 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 1:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute
 

  



Oh friends, not these tones!
    Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing
    And more joyful sounds!
    Joy! (Joy!)


So lets the  active and lurking 1160  or so  member of FFL  sing together with 
Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join  with our  10 000 amateur 
chorus singers  Far Eastern brother/sister/friends in this moving tribute to 
all the victims of the Fukushima disaster. Let's join in this a strikingDaiku 
environment(Daiku suggests a relationship to the word haiku  but with digital 
shorts- a portal between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic 
component)  and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, 
conducted by a student of my friend  Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved 
Karajan

http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 
    Joy, beautiful spark of the gods*
    Daughter of Elysium,
    We enter, drunk with fire,
    Heavenly one, your sanctuary!
    Your magic reunites
    What custom's sword  strictly divided.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls 


PS
 *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great bosom of 
nature. No thought can go so far...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response 




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
I don't remember the details of the story I heard long ago but it was murder. 
In what degree? I don't know. Combat was never mentioned.

 


 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 2:26 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate 
Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
  

   
 


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
wrote:

 And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in his youth, 
 was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the Indian Navy as a 
 youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and became a great Yogi and then 
 exited as he made someone else exitthrough murder.

He was a soldier and killed many people, that's not murder in the ususal 
meaning of the world.

   
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute

2012-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
And they roll their R's in the back of their throats so perfectly! Das ist 
ausgeseichnet!

 


 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute
  

 
   
 



Oh friends, not these tones!
    Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing
    And more joyful sounds!
    Joy! (Joy!)


So lets the  active and lurking 1160  or so  member of FFL  sing together with 
Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join  with our  10 000 amateur 
chorus singers  Far Eastern brother/sister/friends in this moving tribute to 
all the victims of the Fukushima disaster. Let's join in this a strikingDaiku 
environment(Daiku suggests a relationship to the word haiku  but with digital 
shorts- a portal between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic 
component)  and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, 
conducted by a student of my friend  Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved 
Karajan

http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 
    Joy, beautiful spark of the gods*
    Daughter of Elysium,
    We enter, drunk with fire,
    Heavenly one, your sanctuary!
    Your magic reunites
    What custom's sword  strictly divided.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls 


PS
 *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great bosom of 
nature. No thought can go so far...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response 



  
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself

2012-08-06 Thread wgm4u
Isn't that what this Country needs?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 It\s so funny one suspects it's photoshopped, but it's not :-)
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing
  T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in
  the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in
  modern politics:
 
 
 
 [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
 \
  341787_1944288480_n.jpg]
 
 
 https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\
 \
  41787_1944288480_n.jpg
 
 https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
 \
  341787_1944288480_n.jpg
 





[FairfieldLife] TIFFANY FOSTER VICTOR

2012-08-06 Thread merudanda
Dear awoelflebater what is your take on that or how i use to write your
op -onion--?(Beware the peeling effect of onions)
..
the protest was denied based on Annex XI of the FEI Veterinary 
Regulations, which state: there is no appeal against the decision
of  the Ground Jury to disqualify a horse for abnormal sensitivity from
an  event.
http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5 http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5
Isn't there a potential for collateral damage? The idea was always give
the benefit of the doubt to the athlete. In this case, it's the
opposite.The only revenge would be to finish top three again in
today's final with the remaining three riders; if they do, Foster will
receive a medal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4



[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself

2012-08-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote:

 Isn't that what this Country needs?

First TM :-)


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  It\s so funny one suspects it's photoshopped, but it's not :-)
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing
   T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in
   the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in
   modern politics:
  
  
  
  [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
  \
   341787_1944288480_n.jpg]
  
  
  https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\
  \
   41787_1944288480_n.jpg
  
  https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
  \
   341787_1944288480_n.jpg
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 I don't remember the details of the story I heard long ago but it was murder. 
 In what degree? I don't know. Combat was never mentioned.


It's well know fact that TWB used to be a soldier in the indian army.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Mitt just can't help himself

2012-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/06/2012 06:15 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing
 T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in
 the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in
 modern politics:

   
 [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
 341787_1944288480_n.jpg]

 https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\
 41787_1944288480_n.jpg
 https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
 341787_1944288480_n.jpg

Or an intentional (though lame) subliminal. RawMoney is another nickname 
that particularly progressive talk show host Norman Goldman likes to use 
for Mitt.  There's a Mittiot blog out there but it hasn't been updated 
since 2008.


[FairfieldLife] Re: One for Nabby: Domes of Gold - YouTube

2012-08-06 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlffubR2N9Y


Nice, thanks for posting.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Curiosity Has Landed!

2012-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/05/2012 10:34 PM, John wrote:
 Cheers!

 http://news.yahoo.com/abc-news-live-stream-coverage-20120309.html



I watched it on NASA TV but kept thinking it almost looked staged. 
Hollywood couldn't have done it better.  Now for them to find an 
artifact and hope they still show it to us.  There are some things up 
there from previous pictures that even NASA doesn't know what to make 
of.  They don't look natural.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Curiosity Has Landed!

2012-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/06/2012 03:44 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
 NASA timed this landing perfectly
 Disagree! They should have scheduled the landing at least three hours earlier 
 so that it would happen before my bedtime. In any event, it was great to wake 
 up to good news this morning.



I was watching the first 10 minutes of Newsroom on DVR so took a break 
and fired up the Windows machine in the room and watched the landing on 
NASA TV.  Then finished Newsroom and noticed that Salli 
Richardson-Whitfield (Eureka) has joined the cast though just a small 
part last night but I think a plot point that may have her more in 
future episodes.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Duveyoung
Come on, someone must have something to say about this.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:

 Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth.  But maybe with 
 some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and the 
 chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj


On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Duveyoung wrote:


Come on, someone must have something to say about this.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:

 Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But  
maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place  
to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done  
according to Hoyle.



All jyotish algorithms that I'm familiar with use standard  
astronomical routines for earth-based positions, not extraterrestrial  
ones. So if you wanted to use the earth launch point, you'd be in  
luck, but if you want to use a Martian one, you'd be out of luck.


Add to that that all jyotish is cognized from an earth-centered  
worldview, you'd have no jyotish-based predictions to even utilize.


The only way around this is use an astronomical program that allows  
views from other solar system vantage points, and then apply standard  
jyotish to the resulting sidereal information.


Your best option might be to consult a living jyotish rishi like yogi  
Karve.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:

2012-08-06 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

Share1: Marnia Robinson writes:  Take, for example, the ancient Tibetan 
Buddhist myth, The Great Stupa.  It confirms that passion is indeed the reason 
for mankind's fallen state, and says there are three paths to liberation:

~the overcoming of passion through renunciation
~the neutralization of passion by pouring all one's energy into selfless service
~the conquering of passion through controlled indulgence.  That is, using sex 
itself in such a way as to transcend passion's treacherous downward suction.

It says that the third path is the fastest and most powerful path, although 
also the easiest one to fall from...until one masters it.

Robin1: I think this just BS, Share. There is no spiritual path that entails 
sex or abstinence from sex: celibacy. Controlled indulgence--any being with 
the intelligence to know how susceptible we all are to the power of this 
reality inside our bodies, knows this is just plain ridiculous. 'Mastering' 
controlled indulgence--this is the most absurd and ludicrous idea I think I 
may have heard when it comes to traditional idea of spirituality, Share. 
Beautifully sincere, but hopelessly naive.

Look: here is where I come out on all this. I believe that only the grace of 
the Personal God can make of celibacy something real, creative, strong, holy. 
Without that grace, all you have is will power and some religious idea of how 
good and necessary it is to be abstain from sexual activity. 

The sexual drive in human beings, Share--unless it has simply just attenuated 
because of age, or just doesn't assert itself for some unknown reason--always 
conquers the individual person. One can only do one's best to act with 
integrity in this matter. But turning sex into some kind of path of truth, that 
is just a hoot.

Don't you see, Share, for this to be true would mean that encountering the 
methodology and teaching of Marnia Robinson *would be to encounter something 
more powerful, or potentially more powerful, than sexual desire*. That can't 
happen. The reality and power of sexuality is something *no human being in my 
lifetime* has ever mastered--mastered here means, having more control over and 
intelligence about than what the sensation of sexuality presents to us. *We 
cannot truly command this aspect of ourselves as human beings without the grace 
given to us by the author of sexuality* (before the Fall).

I have never seen a single human being, Share, who I intuitively knew: *This 
person knows more about his or her sexuality, what it is, how it acts within 
him or her, how it can be put it inside a context such as to make it submit 
itself to that person's will--than the power of this reality to determine that 
person's experience*.

Marnia Robinson: The myth, which is very old, predicted there would come a time 
when the unstable energies produced by increased indulgence in passion would 
create chaos at both seen and unseen levels across the globe.  The first two 
paths, celibacy and compassionate service to others, would no longer open the 
door to enlightenment, though they would remain useful spiritual disciplines.  
Why?  Because general unrest would render impossible the necessary degree of 
inner stillness.

Robin1: Nice talk, Share--but sex will defeat the person every time. It's one 
of those either or things: either there is the grace to transcend this desire 
and be protected from its furious vehemence and insistence, or there is not the 
grace to do this. For me, I have never seen that grace sufficient to insure the 
physical integrity of a human being. Although I don't therefore, discount the 
tremendous intention to conquer or control this aspect of ourselves. Obviously 
a Catholic priest is living with this intention (presumably). But Marnia 
Robinson, she has as much insight into her sexuality as Eve did: None. *It just 
is a given that concupiscence takes our measure, Share*--although, again, I 
say: there are obviously persons in the world heroically fighting against this 
reality within themselves. It is just that the grace (from the author of 
sexuality) is being withheld.--This was decidedly not the case before I was 
born; before World War II. Then those nuns and religious, they, some of them 
anyway--like Saint Therese of Lisieux, like Saint Francis of Assisi, like Saint 
Teresa of Avila, like Saint Ignatius of Loyola, like Thomas Aquinas (to take 
examples of persons who refer to this very topic (their own sexuality) and how 
they somehow were recipients of the supernatural grace which is a sine qua non 
in being innocently and intelligently celibate)--*lived the life that none of 
us can now*.  

Marnia Robinson: Instead, only the third path, balance with a partner, would 
serve.  Apparently a loving relationship, devoted entirely to the goal of 
transcendence, can create enduring inner peace and stability.  In this way, we 
can reconnect the broken circuit of 

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Ladies lunch

2012-08-06 Thread Dick Mays


Begin forwarded message:

 From: Dome Announcements owner-dom...@mum.edu
 Subject: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Ladies lunch
 Date: August 6, 2012 10:53:03 AM CDT
 To: Dome-L dom...@mum.edu
 
 All ladies are invited to enjoy lunch together on Wednesday, August 8,
 11:45 to 2:00.
 
 Get your lunch in the regular line and bring it to the North Dining Hall.
 
 This lunch is an opportunity to meet new friends, enjoy the company of old
 friends, and share our bliss.
 
 Let us be together and let us eat together!
 
 
 ps   The menu includes Vegetable Lasagna and Cherry Cheesecake Bar
 
 pss  Please invite your friends.
 
 
 ***
 
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 Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to
 owner-dom...@mum.edu.
 
 Encourage your friends to sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail
 message to dome-l-requ...@mum.edu, and put the word subscribe (without the
 quotation marks) in the body of the message.
 
 To stop receiving DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS, send an e-mail message to:
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 quotation marks) in the body of the message.
 
 Or you can send an email to jkar...@me.com to be added or removed from the
 list.
 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: TIFFANY FOSTER VICTOR

2012-08-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 Dear awoelflebater what is your take on that or how i use to write your
 op -onion--?(Beware the peeling effect of onions)
 ..
 the protest was denied based on Annex XI of the FEI Veterinary 
 Regulations, which state: there is no appeal against the decision
 of  the Ground Jury to disqualify a horse for abnormal sensitivity from
 an  event.

First of all, there are definitely disciplines within the horse world that 
regularly sore their horses around the coronet band. Tennessee walking horses 
and gaited horses are particularly prone to this abuse from the use of various 
topical applications of chemicals that cause the skin to erupt and ooze and it 
can even go so far as to keep a horse from standing up. Hideous.

Show jumpers more frequently use the technique of either rapping or poling to 
strike the horses front or hind legs as they are in the air over a jump in 
order to make the horse think he hit the fence and therefore next time the 
animal will presumably jump higher. These people use either bamboo poles, 
regular jump poles or tack poles that have sharp implements imbedded in the 
wood to actually hurt the horse.

Other methods can involve sharp objects placed inside of a jumping boot that 
the horse wears so that if the animal hits the fence it hurts even more. A 
legal method is to use weighted horse boots so that once you remove them the 
horse just feels that much lighter and it likely to clear the obstacle easier 
once the weight it removed.

I highly doubt the Canadian team would have purposefully injured their team 
horse's coronet band at the Olympics in the year 2012. Ian Millar, one of the 
veteran team members has seen 10 Olympics. These people would not risk such 
behaviour. Eric Lamaze was the leading show jumping rider in the world aboard 
the late Hickstead. All of this question of intentional injury is highly 
unusual for these Canadians, they are not, like some other countries I can 
name, prone to various charges related to both drugging as well as misuse of 
equipment. They are simply too experienced and too smart to have created an 
injury that is obviously visible to the naked eye and would be detected 
eventually by some veterinarian or steward or other competitor.

Now I know the rules committee is not implying that Tiffany or anyone else 
intentionally created a sore on this horse's leg but they are abiding by a 
general rule that since a horse has a pre-existing area on its body, likely to 
be struck again during warm up or competition, they have to consider this and 
err on the side of caution for the horse's sake. I understand this stance 
although I wish there was some type of boot or sock or bandage they could use 
to protect that area. However, that place on the leg is hard to protect as it 
moves and any protective covering would most likely be inefficient in staying 
in place. Also, the mere fact that there would be something placed over the 
small wound could also exacerbate the problem.

So, unfortunately, the horse will be withdrawn for a very unfortunate and 
probably insignificant issue.

But abuse is so rampant in the horse world that I would have to err on the side 
of the rules in general. So much goes ignored and the Olympics and the FEI in 
particular hold very stringent parameters. If only all horse shows did.


 http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5 http://tinyurl.com/cysnzq5
 Isn't there a potential for collateral damage? The idea was always give
 the benefit of the doubt to the athlete. In this case, it's the
 opposite.The only revenge would be to finish top three again in
 today's final with the remaining three riders; if they do, Foster will
 receive a medal.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUB1WoMJbG4





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/06/2012 09:55 AM, Vaj wrote:

 On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Duveyoung wrote:

 Come on, someone must have something to say about this.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
 
  Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But 
 maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place 
 to stand and the chart could then be said to at least be done 
 according to Hoyle.


 All jyotish algorithms that I'm familiar with use standard 
 astronomical routines for earth-based positions, not extraterrestrial 
 ones. So if you wanted to use the earth launch point, you'd be in 
 luck, but if you want to use a Martian one, you'd be out of luck.

 Add to that that all jyotish is cognized from an earth-centered 
 worldview, you'd have no jyotish-based predictions to even utilize.

 The only way around this is use an astronomical program that allows 
 views from other solar system vantage points, and then apply standard 
 jyotish to the resulting sidereal information.

 Your best option might be to consult a living jyotish rishi like yogi 
 Karve.

You would have to develop a system for Mars but given our advanced 
technology you might just instead keep statistical records and look for 
cycles.  I strongly believe that's all astrology is about anyway: a 
rough system of tracking naturally occurring cycles using the planets as 
markers.  You have two kinds of jyotishis: ones that believe we're the 
puppets of the planets and others who look at it abstractly for sort of 
an event weather report with a propensity for things to happen.

I saw some astrology groups forecasting the success of the mission based 
on it's launch.  In some cases they forecast a more dire result which 
didn't happen.  Of course some of those astrologers will go back and say 
oh wait, I missed this... :-D





[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/06/2012 09:55 AM, Vaj wrote:
 
  All jyotish algorithms that I'm familiar with use standard 
  astronomical routines for earth-based positions, not 
  extraterrestrial ones. So if you wanted to use the earth launch 
  point, you'd be in luck, but if you want to use a Martian one, 
  you'd be out of luck.
 
  Add to that that all jyotish is cognized from an earth-centered 
  worldview, you'd have no jyotish-based predictions to even 
  utilize.
 
  The only way around this is use an astronomical program that 
  allows views from other solar system vantage points, and then 
  apply standard jyotish to the resulting sidereal information.
 
  Your best option might be to consult a living jyotish rishi 
  like yogi Karve.
 
 You would have to develop a system for Mars but given our advanced 
 technology you might just instead keep statistical records and look 
 for cycles. I strongly believe that's all astrology is about 
 anyway: a rough system of tracking naturally occurring cycles 
 using the planets as markers.  You have two kinds of jyotishis: 
 ones that believe we're the puppets of the planets and others who 
 look at it abstractly for sort of an event weather report with a 
 propensity for things to happen.

I can just hear it now, after the colonization of Mars,
some future Martian Jyotish astrologer is gazing at
the chart he's just drawn up for a suck...uh, I mean 
client, and saying, Oh. Bummer dude. You have Earth
rising in the 10th house, both Phobos and Deimos in
your 7th house, and Earth's moon square up Uranus.
You're fucked.  :-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:

 Come on, someone must have something to say about this.

I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything
to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain
couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong
place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth
in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA!
Talk about unforseen circumstances.


 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth.  But maybe 
  with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand and 
  the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:

2012-08-06 Thread Robin Carlsen
Sexuality Before Marnia Robinson: for Share

The pleasures of sex are more vehement that the pleasures of food and exert 
more pressure on us; they need more whipping into line, for the more we give 
way to them the more they dominate us and the more able they are to overthrow 
our strength of mind. Even married sex, adorned with all the honourableness of 
marriage, carries with it a certain shame, because the movements of the 
genitals unlike those of other external members don't obey reason. The virtue 
that deals with the sex-act we call chastity, and the virtue concerned with 
more public actions such as looking and kissing and caressing we call *purity*. 
*Purity* is a sort of adjunct serving chastity, not a separate virtue but a 
sort of environment to chastity. Sexual sin is thought of as more disgraceful 
than other immoderate action, partly because of the uncontrolled movements of 
the genitals, but also because our reason gets submerged.

There are three levels to be considered in the act of sex: the physiological 
level (the breaking of the hymen, etc) has no moral context as such; at the 
psychological level shared by body and soul, emission of seed brings sensory 
pleasure (the material side of the human moral act); and at the deepest level 
there is an act of intention in the soul aiming at such pleasure (and making 
that act a human, moral activity). Now *virginity* is defined by a moral 
integrity: not then the integrity of the hymen as such, but a material immunity 
from the pleasures of orgasm, wedded with a formal purpose of perpetual 
abstinence from such pleasures. A hymen broken from some other cause is no more 
a loss of virginity in this sense than a broken arm or leg. And the pleasure of 
orgasm can be experienced unintentionally during sleep or externally forced 
without a  person's consent. In no such case is virginity lost. 

External goods are meant to serve our body's good, our body to serve our soul, 
and in our soul the active life should serve the contemplative life. So it is 
not a bad thing, but reasonable and right, to abstain from external 
possessions, which are otherwise good, for the sake of the body's health or the 
contemplation of truth. And in the same way abstaining from bodily pleasure so 
as to make ourselves more freely available to contemplate truth, is reasonable 
and right.

The injunction of the law in us by nature to *eat* must be observed by 
everybody if individuals are to survive; but the injunction to *be fruitful and 
multiply* obliges the community of mankind reproduce whilst others, abstaining 
from that, give themselves up to the contemplation of God, and so bring a 
beauty and health into the whole human race. To refuse all pleasure as such 
because of dislike for it and without good reason is to be insensitive and 
boorish. The practice of virginity doesn't refuse all pleasure, but only that 
of sex, and that only for a good reason. Virginity seeks the soul's good in a 
life of contemplation *mindful of the things of God*.

Marriage seeks the body's good--the bodily multiplication of the human race--in 
an active life in which husband and wife are *mindful of the things of this 
world*. Without doubt then the state of virginity is preferable to that of even 
continent marriage, though married people may well be better people than those 
practising virginity; more chaste, having a spirit that would have made them 
better virgins were they called to it than those actually practising virginity, 
and more virtuous in general. 

The general good ranks above the good of the private person when those goods 
are of the same sort. But the private good may be of a higher sort; and that is 
what happens when virginity dedicated to God is compared with bodily 
fruitfulness. However, the theological virtues and even the virtue of religion, 
being directly occupied with God, are to be preferred to virginity. Again 
martyrs cleave to God more mightily, because they lay down their own lives, 
whilst those who dwell in monasteries lay down their own wills and all they 
possess; virgins lay down only the pleasures of sex. Simply speaking then 
virginity is by no means the greatest of virtues.

Use of food properly ordered for the body's welfare is no sin; and in the same 
way, use of sex properly ordered for the purpose of human reproduction is no 
sin. Virtuous balance is not measured quantitatively but by rightness of 
reason, so the high degree of pleasure that attaches to a properly ordered 
sex-act doesn't stop it being balanced. In any case virtue isn't concerned with 
how much external sense-pleasure accompanies the act (that depends on the 
body's temperament), but with the way that pleasure interiorly affects us. 
Though not even our distraction from spiritual matters at the moment of 
enjoying such pleasure makes it unvirtuous; for it is not unvirtuous to suspend 
reason for a time for a good reason, otherwise sleeping would be a vice.


--- In 

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2012-08-06 Thread cardemaister

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Besides being nonsensical from a logical perspective because the 'influences'  
of the various celestial bodies are only spelled out in an incredibly vague 
way, astrology has problems even on Earth. There are no rising signs at the 
poles where the stars rotate around the horizon (left to right at the North, 
and right to left at the South) without rising or setting). Even close to the 
poles, many stars do not rise or set.

(Note, the precise calculations of the location of celestial bodies are now 
done using values from the science astronomy and physics - astrologers never 
look at the sky or use traditional instruments to locate and predict where they 
are. These values can be made very precise, but how is the so-called influence 
determined in principle? Only the result has been stated, not how it was 
derived.) 

Another problem is the stars are in motion, over long periods of time, such as 
50,000 years, the constellations we see today mostly do not hold together at 
all. The fixed sphere of stars is anything but. The North Star and/or the South 
Star is usually not there at all, and if a star is close to one of the 
celestial poles, it is seldom there for more than a thousand years or so.

On Mars, Mars fills 1/2 of the celestial sphere so it fills six houses at once. 
And what values to you use to determine the effect of Earth in the sky? And 
what are the effects of Phobos and Deimos when they eclipse the Sun or are 
eclipsed my Mars? Phobos whips around Mars in less than 7 hours 40 minutes so 
it goes around the planet more than 3 times a day, while Deimos takes slightly 
more than a day, a Mars Sol, which is a bit more than 24.63 hours.

Jyotish for other kinds of spacecraft might be even more interesting, for 
example, a craft in a polar solar orbit. The planets and Sun would then appear 
mostly in constellations that are not in the Zodiac, and there would be no 
rising or setting anythings.

I remember that the software program Parashara's Light many years ago, which 
used the ancient writings directly to produce a prediction, predicted I would 
have many elephants by now, but I see none and have none at all.

In other words you have to start from scratch, using basic principles, not 
descriptions that are current that are *presumed* to flow from those basic 
principles, which are what?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Come on, someone must have something to say about this.
 
 I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything
 to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain
 couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong
 place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth
 in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA!
 Talk about unforseen circumstances.
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth.  But maybe 
   with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand 
   and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread John


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Come on, someone must have something to say about this.
 
 I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything
 to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain
 couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong
 place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth
 in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA!
 Talk about unforseen circumstances.



Jyotish would be different on Mars.  Specifically, every second of the day 
would be malefic and inhospitable for any human beings there.  Day and night 
would not be the same as the earth.  You're either frozen at night or boiled 
during the day.

The seasons would have no meaning since humans cannot celebrate spring in the 
environment of Mars.

The equinoxes would have no meaning since you cannot plant anything on Mars 
during springtime which can be harvested during the summer.

The effects of the Martian moons will be different.  You can't use the moons to 
predict the ocean tides since there are no seas on Mars.  IMO, the Martian 
moons will play havoc to the psychology of humans living there.

JR
 



[FairfieldLife] Good Question

2012-08-06 Thread awoelflebater
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/06/2012 01:01 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote:
 Besides being nonsensical from a logical perspective because the 'influences' 
  of the various celestial bodies are only spelled out in an incredibly vague 
 way, astrology has problems even on Earth. There are no rising signs at the 
 poles where the stars rotate around the horizon (left to right at the North, 
 and right to left at the South) without rising or setting). Even close to the 
 poles, many stars do not rise or set.

 (Note, the precise calculations of the location of celestial bodies are now 
 done using values from the science astronomy and physics - astrologers never 
 look at the sky or use traditional instruments to locate and predict where 
 they are. These values can be made very precise, but how is the so-called 
 influence determined in principle? Only the result has been stated, not how 
 it was derived.)

 Another problem is the stars are in motion, over long periods of time, such 
 as 50,000 years, the constellations we see today mostly do not hold together 
 at all. The fixed sphere of stars is anything but. The North Star and/or the 
 South Star is usually not there at all, and if a star is close to one of the 
 celestial poles, it is seldom there for more than a thousand years or so.

 On Mars, Mars fills 1/2 of the celestial sphere so it fills six houses at 
 once. And what values to you use to determine the effect of Earth in the sky? 
 And what are the effects of Phobos and Deimos when they eclipse the Sun or 
 are eclipsed my Mars? Phobos whips around Mars in less than 7 hours 40 
 minutes so it goes around the planet more than 3 times a day, while Deimos 
 takes slightly more than a day, a Mars Sol, which is a bit more than 24.63 
 hours.

 Jyotish for other kinds of spacecraft might be even more interesting, for 
 example, a craft in a polar solar orbit. The planets and Sun would then 
 appear mostly in constellations that are not in the Zodiac, and there would 
 be no rising or setting anythings.

 I remember that the software program Parashara's Light many years ago, which 
 used the ancient writings directly to produce a prediction, predicted I would 
 have many elephants by now, but I see none and have none at all.

How many cars have you owned? ;-)


 In other words you have to start from scratch, using basic principles, not 
 descriptions that are current that are *presumed* to flow from those basic 
 principles, which are what?



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... 
 wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 Come on, someone must have something to say about this.
 I had a good laugh about it. Imagine if there was anything
 to astrology at all and you went to Mars and your brain
 couldn't work because all the houses were suddenly in the wrong
 place, or you developed a new personality type with the Earth
 in conjunction with the moon. That'd be an eye-opener at NASA!
 Talk about unforseen circumstances.


 http://rense.com/
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth.  But maybe 
 with some datafeed from NASA could give a jyotishi the place to stand 
 and the chart could then be said to at least be done according to Hoyle.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj

On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 Besides being nonsensical from a logical perspective because the 'influences' 
 of the various celestial bodies are only spelled out in an incredibly vague 
 way, astrology has problems even on Earth. There are no rising signs at the 
 poles where the stars rotate around the horizon (left to right at the North, 
 and right to left at the South) without rising or setting). Even close to the 
 poles, many stars do not rise or set.

That’s true, but then, that merely represents a certain background of cosmic 
radiation coming from those areas, only changing slowly over vast epochs of 
human time. Human DNA evolved against that very background radiation of antique 
starlight - and the moving arcs of the planets and the zodiac, has followed 
humanity far longer than most could even imagine. 

They’re influence is embedded deep within human memory and our very DNA.

 
 (Note, the precise calculations of the location of celestial bodies are now 
 done using values from the science astronomy and physics - astrologers never 
 look at the sky or use traditional instruments to locate and predict where 
 they are. These values can be made very precise, but how is the so-called 
 influence determined in principle? Only the result has been stated, not how 
 it was derived.) 

Yogi Karve would simply see them, in consciousness, as soon as he placed his 
attention on you. When an old acquaintance walked into the room, he remembered 
the person not by their physical appearance - but he saw your rising signs and 
planets, imprinted at the moment of your first breath, forever in their koshas.

 
 Another problem is the stars are in motion, over long periods of time, such 
 as 50,000 years, the constellations we see today mostly do not hold together 
 at all. The fixed sphere of stars is anything but. The North Star and/or the 
 South Star is usually not there at all, and if a star is close to one of the 
 celestial poles, it is seldom there for more than a thousand years or so.

Relative to human time, their movement is very slow.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
So, are you saying that because he was a soldier or sailor, he couldn't have 
committed a murder? The story I heard put him in some kind of a brawl in which 
he killed a man. Suffering from a guilt trip or maybe to flee prosecution,(take 
your pick) he ran off to the Himalayas to do penance as a yogi. The particular 
details don't really matter to me, it's just that the point was, that he took 
another person's life, became a yogi and left this world when someone else took 
his. His personal crisis motivated him to become a Great Soul.

 


 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 9:07 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate 
Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
  

   
 


--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... 
wrote:

 I don't remember the details of the story I heard long ago but it was murder. 
 In what degree? I don't know. Combat was never mentioned.

It's well know fact that TWB used to be a soldier in the indian army.

   
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern

2012-08-06 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

Dear Emptybill: I just began to read through this post of yours, answering as I 
went along, not knowing where you would be going. But then I got to our 
Kentucky Bourbon moment, and the floor kind of gave out from under me. I could 
go no further. You will see the sudden transition I had to make, a transition 
which made me reluctant to go beyond the Bourbon. And therefore, somewhat 
arbitrarily, to ignore the last half of your post. (Read, but not answered; you 
will see why.)

Robin's Message 315852

 Robin1: Because, you see, emptybill, my intentions here on FFL, they are far 
more morally driven than your disgust and aversion to what I am doing.

EB2: No disgust, no aversion … not even disquiet. Admiration rather, since now 
I understand. You are just displaying your performance art - although seemingly 
bereft of quietude or contemplation. In truth, you appear as the blessed bitch 
of your totem-daimon, like a good and dutiful servant. Why you must certainly 
see your performances as confessional addendums to Truly, truly, I say unto 
thee …. Aren't they literal prayers to have your efforts recognized as 
deserving?

Robin2: No, Emptybill, I am as interested in quietude and contemplation as 
you are. I am my own blessed bitch--bitch to myself, that is. Where do you 
get some sense of a distinct entity/muse other than myself speaking my words? I 
consider any sources of inspiration other than my own waking state self to be 
anathema. Especially after experiencing myself 'instrumentally' for those ten 
years.

You seek to impute my motives here to some desperate cry for recognition, or 
acknowledgement; whereas I view my posting at FFL in strictly selfish terms: I 
want to clarify and strengthen my own understanding of how my philosophy 
applies to my life. Fielding the different and clashing points of view on 
FFL--not to mention the different and clashing personalities (first-person 
ontology differentials!)--has been experimentally proven to me to be useful for 
my own--let me genuflect before the East for a moment--evolution.

Performance art for the sake of performance art: that does not describe my 
intention, nor, I believe, Emptybill, if you see how I interact with someone 
like Share Long, or Emily, or Raunchydog, or PaliGap, or Feste37, my acts here 
in the form of posts at FFL.
 
Robin1: You don't like it and would have me acting perhaps as a more antic 
version of Lear's Fool—or the cosmic harlequin whose nimble acrobatics are to 
seduce some would-be inamorato.

EB2: Oh not so, not so. (See footnote 1)

Robin2: Emptybill, I did not know you were an author. I suppose I will have to 
see if I can speed-read that book before I say much else, since you obviously 
have a pretty coherent and carefully-thought out view of reality and the human 
soul. Of course I cannot know what you mean in your comment here without 
looking through your book. Would you recommend my reading it?

I do think, however, you have hit upon a truth there: I consider enlightenment 
to be a form of abject slavery. And I am happy to have escaped from the Big 
Plantation of the Self.

Robin1: I conceive of acting in love—however differently it is perceived by you 
and a strong contingent of critics sympathetic to what you have said here.

EB2: Isn't this the mark of Plato's true lover? Or is it rather the stamp of a 
Platonic motherfucker – a lost soul coupling with prima  materia? Isn't the 
Dark Lord a better lover of your deity than you? (See note 2)

Robin2: Emptybill, I would have the Personal God for my lover--but he is not to 
be found. Therefore I am on my own. And everything I say is said from entirely 
within the existential intention to own it through my own experimental 
knowledge of life, even, if I may say it, the universe itself. There is no 
deity, then, for me; and certainly no guru. No philosophy even that would make 
me its exponent. You mistake me, Emptybill, I am a loner. I take responsibility 
for existing as a created being whose only resource apart from my own faculties 
and life history, is *reality* itself--what I make of my transactions with her. 
Which are never abstract, and are always first-person ontological [as you would 
expect. :-)]

Like right now, Emptybill. There is no mediator between what you have said and 
my own heart. I would have life physical-supernatural rather than 
mental-mystical. Life for me is about what it was like to be McKayala Maroney 
last night after failing to land her dismount on her second vault attempt--or 
the sensation Usain Bolt felt in his body in running 9:63 in the 100 metre 
final. Or Emptybill in this very moment wondering how to answer this post. :-) 
Enlightenment is so far away from where I choose to live my life, 
Emptybill--and did I tell you? *I've been there*. I am more of an 
Aristotelian-Thomistic fathermucker than the other.

Robin1:  I will assume, however, that in having 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute

2012-08-06 Thread Mike Dixon
I had to watch this again. The only way it could be better is, for them all to 
be in Kabuki costume.

 


 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Never put a disaster to waste. A tribute
  

   
 



Oh friends, not these tones!
    Rather, let us raise our voices in more pleasing
    And more joyful sounds!
    Joy! (Joy!)


So lets the  active and lurking 1160  or so  member of FFL  sing together with 
Beethoven - Ode an die Freude -Ode to Joy and join  with our  10 000 amateur 
chorus singers  Far Eastern brother/sister/friends in this moving tribute to 
all the victims of the Fukushima disaster. Let's join in this a strikingDaiku 
environment(Daiku suggests a relationship to the word haiku  but with digital 
shorts- a portal between the physical and metaphysical worlds-visual and sonic 
component)  and performance of Beethoven's Ode to Joy in Osaka, Japan, 
conducted by a student of my friend  Seiji Ozawa himself student of my beloved 
Karajan

http://digitaljournal.com/article/322028 
    Joy, beautiful spark of the gods*
    Daughter of Elysium,
    We enter, drunk with fire,
    Heavenly one, your sanctuary!
    Your magic reunites
    What custom's sword  strictly divided.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0IHGFbgwls 


PS
 *All this visible world is but an imperceptible element in the great bosom of 
nature. No thought can go so far...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzGORub6IbEfeature=watch_response 



  
  

[FairfieldLife] mornng Gongyo

2012-08-06 Thread Yifu
chanting of the Lotus Sutra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Cg8xh62Ps



[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2012-08-06 Thread FFL PostCount
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208 messages as of (UTC) Tue Aug 07 00:13:07 2012

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17 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
16 Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
13 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
12 sparaig lengli...@cox.net
12 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
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10 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 9 authfriend jst...@panix.com
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 6 Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
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 5 John jr_...@yahoo.com
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 2 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
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 2 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
 2 Mark msilver1...@yahoo.com
 2 Joe geezerfr...@yahoo.com
 2 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 2 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:

2012-08-06 Thread Share Long
Good evening Robin,
Apologies for just responding.  Busy afternoon with writing group and release 
session, then Dome and dinner.  


This essay has a decidedly Catholic tone to it.  Would it be possible to know 
the author?  


That tone gives this reader the sense of someone demonstrating a waltz with 
their legs and arms tied.  I don't even know why I say this.  It is simply my 
sense of it.

I still maintain that Western culture is severely marred by the spirit matter 
split that began long ago.  For this reason I find the Taoist approach to 
sexual intimacy to be healthier and more compassionate and spiritually viable.  
I do not believe that the only right use of sex is for procreation.  Nor do I 
find myself distracted from spiritual matters during loving intimacy.  


Thank you for taking the time and attention to reply.  I'll respond to the 
other posts tomorrow.  Wishing you a wonderful evening...

Share




 From: Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 1:46 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Great Stupa of Tibetan Buddhism, Ketut too (-:
 

  
Sexuality Before Marnia Robinson: for Share

The pleasures of sex are more vehement that the pleasures of food and exert 
more pressure on us; they need more whipping into line, for the more we give 
way to them the more they dominate us and the more able they are to overthrow 
our strength of mind. Even married sex, adorned with all the honourableness of 
marriage, carries with it a certain shame, because the movements of the 
genitals unlike those of other external members don't obey reason. The virtue 
that deals with the sex-act we call chastity, and the virtue concerned with 
more public actions such as looking and kissing and caressing we call *purity*. 
*Purity* is a sort of adjunct serving chastity, not a separate virtue but a 
sort of environment to chastity. Sexual sin is thought of as more disgraceful 
than other immoderate action, partly because of the uncontrolled movements of 
the genitals, but also because our reason gets submerged.

There are three levels to be considered in the act of sex: the physiological 
level (the breaking of the hymen, etc) has no moral context as such; at the 
psychological level shared by body and soul, emission of seed brings sensory 
pleasure (the material side of the human moral act); and at the deepest level 
there is an act of intention in the soul aiming at such pleasure (and making 
that act a human, moral activity). Now *virginity* is defined by a moral 
integrity: not then the integrity of the hymen as such, but a material immunity 
from the pleasures of orgasm, wedded with a formal purpose of perpetual 
abstinence from such pleasures. A hymen broken from some other cause is no more 
a loss of virginity in this sense than a broken arm or leg. And the pleasure of 
orgasm can be experienced unintentionally during sleep or externally forced 
without a  person's consent. In no such case is virginity lost. 

External goods are meant to serve our body's good, our body to serve our soul, 
and in our soul the active life should serve the contemplative life. So it is 
not a bad thing, but reasonable and right, to abstain from external 
possessions, which are otherwise good, for the sake of the body's health or the 
contemplation of truth. And in the same way abstaining from bodily pleasure so 
as to make ourselves more freely available to contemplate truth, is reasonable 
and right.

The injunction of the law in us by nature to *eat* must be observed by 
everybody if individuals are to survive; but the injunction to *be fruitful and 
multiply* obliges the community of mankind reproduce whilst others, abstaining 
from that, give themselves up to the contemplation of God, and so bring a 
beauty and health into the whole human race. To refuse all pleasure as such 
because of dislike for it and without good reason is to be insensitive and 
boorish. The practice of virginity doesn't refuse all pleasure, but only that 
of sex, and that only for a good reason. Virginity seeks the soul's good in a 
life of contemplation *mindful of the things of God*.

Marriage seeks the body's good--the bodily multiplication of the human race--in 
an active life in which husband and wife are *mindful of the things of this 
world*. Without doubt then the state of virginity is preferable to that of even 
continent marriage, though married people may well be better people than those 
practising virginity; more chaste, having a spirit that would have made them 
better virgins were they called to it than those actually practising virginity, 
and more virtuous in general. 

The general good ranks above the good of the private person when those goods 
are of the same sort. But the private good may be of a higher sort; and that is 
what happens when virginity dedicated to God is compared with bodily 
fruitfulness. However, the theological virtues and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Hi Dan (or whoever you are),
 
 Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible
 for me to not notice that its posters are being told 
 by one of the group's professional cult apologists 
 that the person who made the recent inflammatory, 
 profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th
 was not you. The cult apologist claims that your
 account had obviously been hacked, and that it's
 not really you.

Tee hee, Barry had to make sure we didn't think he read Judy's entire post. He 
merely skimmed in Message View. It's okay, we know you couldn't help 
yourself. She is so tempting to sneak peeks at.
 
 Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just
 suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated 
 (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would
 come to), I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker,
 decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering
 a few questions about it?

Well it doesn't appear as if you are his personal favourite Barry but maybe he 
will manage an apologetic and explanatory post. However, I wouldn't bet my life 
on it, or even 5 Euro.
 
 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into 
 danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you
 were going to post the rants intended to make him
 look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield
 Life?
 
 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's 
 consistent bad spelling? 

Leave out letters? 
He seemed to spell fuck alright and that was over half the content. I would 
also say the grammar and punctuation needed a little work.
 
 3. How did you decide which other posters to
 reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you 
 could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made 
 you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of
 the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at
 in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being
 anti-guru? Was that just coincidence, or did you
 plan that in your attempts to make Real Dan look 
 bad?

Maybe likes attract, birds of a feather and all that.
 
 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to 
 spray with invective, how did you know what their
 common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
 I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
 atory and insulting permutation of his posting 
 ID that is commonly used here by people with a 
 grudge against him. Similarly, having picked him
 at random for your drive-by, you called turquoiseb
 turq and turqy, again almost as if you were
 very familiar with how *he* was addressed on this
 forum by his detractors. How did you know all this?
 
 5. Finally, since I'm pretty sure in this post
 that I'm addressing Real Dan, the person who made
 all of the posts on August 4th, are you feeling
 better and a little more sane now? I hope so.

Hey, you said Finally, now I see there's a point 6.
 
 6. What was it (other than being drunk or stoned 
 or both) that set you off and caused you to 
 embarrass yourself like this? Did your regular
 practice of TM cause (as one person suggested)
 some roughness of awareness? Does this happen
 to you often?

Maybe you two should compare notes. 
 
 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional
 cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really
 you making these posts, or is that something 
 that professional cult apologists just DO when
 a member of their cult embarrasses it?

What cult? What am I missing here? I want to join. Somebody, tell me who do I 
contact? Does it cost much? Can women join? What is a Professional Cult 
Apologist? Anybody have an application form, a job description? So many 
questions, so few answers (sigh).
 
 Thanks for taking the time to answer these 
 questions, and I really hope you come back to
 visit us soon, and after having imbibed in
 the same substances that inspired you last
 time. As I said before, the more often that
 long-term TM practitioners such as yourself
 *demonstrate* on this forum all that TM has
 done for them, and what balanced and happy
 individuals they've become as a result, the
 more new people will learn TM.

Is Barry another example of how TM makes one balanced and happy? Or was that 
Rama's fault? Naw, I'll just chalk it up to that Dutch beer. Someone or 
something other than Barry has to take the blame/responsibility. Or maybe not.
 
 Jai Guru Fucking Dev, and all that...

What was that about stupid and profane?





[FairfieldLife] Some facts and background on Robin Carlsen / umasking the zebra

2012-08-06 Thread Lord Knows


Dear Robin,

I know you well, I was in the inner circle of your followers. I lived in the 
group house you named Annapurna in Victoria. I fully experienced what 
ultimately became a waking nightmare in being a member of your cult. I have a 
vivid memory of the day when a member of the group who had been extremely close 
to you attempted suicide after you ruthlessly confronted her and declared her 
to be an evil being who was only appearing in the guise of a human being. I 
remember the meeting at Heronwater in which you spoke with ice cold disdain 
about her when the news came of her attempted suicide, your only concern was to 
send someone to her apartment to collect any items from her belongings that 
could connect her to you. This is a fact, a horrible ugly fact which could be 
verified by all the people in that room, about 15 members of the inner circle.I 
am not proud of my involvement in this and many other heartless atrocities that 
took place over the years I was
 associated with you. In due time my turn came to be on the receiving end of an 
ultimate pronouncement on my soul as being irretrievably lost and after being 
brutally confronted by you and the whole group I was ejected from the cult with 
great scorn. This was the standard operating procedure and happened to many 
others over the years. 

Robin I have a simple question for you, what in your background gives you the 
the standing, the credibility to make pronouncements about the ultimate value 
of the Eastern Spiritual tradition and declare the death of Christianity?  I 
would have thought that if you were truly remorseful for the harm you had done 
to so many people, the last thing you would have wanted to do is to give into 
the temptation to represent yourself as an authority capable of passing 
judgment on whole spiritual traditions as well as in some instances making 
harsh judgments about individuals on FFL. Robin you were never enlightened 
nothing could be more obvious. The biographies of enlightened teachers down 
through time are filled with stories of their extraordinary love, compassion 
and sacrifice in being of profound service to their followers. Yours is a 
record of extraordinary abuse done to your followers. I care not a whit for 
your  experience of enlightenment it is all words,
 words, words. You did not walk the talk, you were never enlightened. In my 
opinion you were someone who was mentally unbalanced who had a very expansive 
spiritual experience whose ego appropriated it instantly and you ran with it. 
You have natural gifts of intellect and charisma which made it possible for you 
to attract a small group around you who fell for it hook, line, and sinker. The 
center piece of your unique revelations as an enlightened man was the 
imperative to confront your followers in order to expose the demonic and then 
expel it. Where in the biographies of enlightened sages do you find this method 
being used to enlighten the disciples? The idea that you were  faithful and 
true to Maharishi and his teaching is pure fiction that lives on in your mind 
and your mind alone.   

 To put into perspective and accurate chronology your revelation about the 
Eastern spiritual tradition, it came in 1987 when you told the group that the 
the mantras we received through TM were the names of demons or fallen angels. 
It did not come years later after you had purged yourself of your supposed 
enlightenment.It was while you were still in a self admitted deeply disturbed 
state that you received this truth, and not as you have represented here as 
coming years later. In fact at the time this revelation came to you, you also  
believed that your wife was the incarnation of the devil and that Jewish people 
were evil. This was the nature of your very disturbed mind when you had the 
revelation that the whole Eastern spiritual tradition was satanic.   
The one new conclusion that you have offered here on FFL is that the Christian 
tradition and most significantly the Catholic tradition no longer has any 
spiritual substance whatsoever and has not since the bombing by the Allies of 
the monastery of Monte Cassino (1945) during World War II. A very strange and 
eccentric theory, which is at odds with the example of Mother Teresa's life 
(1910-1997) and also that of saint Padre Pio (1887-1968), to give just two 
prominent examples. 
Robin your record of accuracy on your grand theories and insights is abysmal. A 
pharmacy student in college is allowed only 3 occasions of lethal errors in 
making up prescriptions before he is bounced out of the pharmacy department, if 
you were held to the same standard as a practicing spiritual teacher you would 
have flunked out a hell of long time ago. Why it is you think anyone would 
believe and trust what you have to say about religious or metaphysical truth is 
beyond all reckoning.
  
 I am  aware of your subtle way of controlling the context by claiming you are 
only just innocently following  the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread authfriend
Barry is constitutionally unable to tell the truth.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Hi Dan (or whoever you are),
 
 Even skimming FFL in Message View, it was impossible
 for me to not notice that its posters are being told 
 by one of the group's professional cult apologists 
 that the person who made the recent inflammatory, 
 profane, and above all stupid posts on August 4th
 was not you.

Barry must be referring to me here, but he's
completely lost control of himself to call me a
professional cult apologist. He knows neither
characaterization is accurate. He also knows
anybody here who's familiar with my posts knows
he's lying.

 The cult apologist claims that your
 account had obviously been hacked, and that it's
 not really you.

I made no claims. I made it clear I wasn't certain.
And I did not use the word obviously.

So that's three lies in one paragraph.

What's happening, for those of you who aren't that
familiar with Barry's very predictable behavior,
is that I pointed out that he was lying in a
different post about Dan. Check it out:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316260

Every time he's caught lying, his response is to
tell more and bigger lies. And he repeats his lies
on a regular basis even after they've been exposed.
He's told the one in the post I just linked to before
as well:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282434

He was corrected by feste at the time. Did he retract
and apologize? Of course not. He just filed the lie
away to tell again.

Actually both times the lie was even worse than was
exposed. Let's look at the most recent iteration:

 Remember, this is the same guy who started out
 at Fairfield Life trying to find out the real
 identities of posters he didn't like. At the
 time, folks suspected he might have intended
 to do them harm.

Not only had Dan been participating for two and a
half years before he complained about anonymity, he
wasn't complaining about posters he didn't like,
as Barry falsely claims. He was complaining about Rick
posting emails he'd received from non-FFL members
without identifying the source. And nobody suspected
he might have intended to do them harm. Barry made
that up.

Barry will claim that the poster is too cowardly to
respond, even though he's well aware the poster has
almost certainly been thrown off for making the
obscene posts.

Copied from below:

 7. Did you actually have to PAY the professional
 cult apologist to claim that it wasn't really
 you making these posts, or is that something 
 that professional cult apologists just DO when
 a member of their cult embarrasses it?

My guess is that the obscene poster is also a TMer
and has been lurking on FFL. So much for Barry's
embarrassment theory.

Dan's last post here was in July 2011. I suspect
he had unsubscribed, and the obscene poster posed
as Dan and asked to be resubscribed with the
intention of venting his uncontrollable rage on
Barry and Vaj.

If so, the motivation was certainly understandable,
even if the implementation was unacceptable.

Copied from below:

 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to 
 spray with invective, how did you know what their
 common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
 I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
 atory and insulting permutation of his posting 
 ID that is commonly used here by people with a 
 grudge against him.

As Barry is aware, emptybill and Nabby are the only
posters who commonly use Vag (I don't recall anybody
else ever using it). (I'm one of Vaj's sharpest
critics, and I've *complained* about the use of Vag.)

So let's count what Barry writes above as another
lie.

 Assuming that this is true, and that you didn't just
 suffer from a bout of Posting While Intoxicated 
 (the conclusion that most non-cult apologists would
 come to)

That would be a rather stupid conclusion, actually,
for anyone to come to who remembers Dan's previous
posting habits. It's not impossible that Dan has
gone completely starkers, but it's not the most
likely reason for the obscene posts. Posting While 
Intoxicated isn't likely either. Those weren't 
drunk posts, they were crazy posts. The person who
made them needs professional help.

But then, so does Barry.



, I'm curious as to how you, as a hacker,
 decided to do what you did. Would you mind answering
 a few questions about it?
 
 1. How did you, after having somehow hacked into 
 danfriedman2002's Yahoo account, decide where you
 were going to post the rants intended to make him
 look bad? How did you happen to settle on Fairfield
 Life?
 
 2. How did you manage to emulate Real Dan's 
 consistent bad spelling? 
 
 3. How did you decide which other posters to
 reply to with a stream of invective? I mean, you 
 could have picked *anyone*, at random. What made 
 you decide to lash out at (coincidentally) two of
 the same people that The Real Dan had lashed out at
 in his Real Posts, for the alleged crime of being
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Maharishi and the End of the Practice'...

2012-08-06 Thread sparaig
MMY != Swami Rama. 

I thought you said that MMY said something...


L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:

 see Swami Rama [:D]   Re: 'Mantra by Swami R'
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/316301
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
 
  Not some lecture that I was privy to...
 
  Did he perchance say what the signs of this time were when you come to
 the end of practice?
 
  L
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
  
   Maharishi has stated that there comes a time, when we can call it:
  
   The End of the Practice of TM and the TM-Sidhis'...
  
   This comes as one becomes more and more established in the 'Being of
 C.C.
   When the 'Witnessing Aspect is Firmly Estabished'...
  
   Then there is not need to repeat the mantra or sutra...
  
   Rather is more important at that juncture in your evolution to G.C.
 and U.C. to continue with the 'Witnessing Aspect' while 'Being Aware of
 the Surface Values at the Same Time'...
  
   This begins to open the awareness further to include both 'Silent,
 Unmanifest and Manifest Fluctuations'...of consciousness...
  
   Since 'Being is the First Cause'...this 'Self-Referral Process' of
 'Maintaining the Witnessing Aspect' while at the same time, 'Observing
 the Fluctions of Emotions, Sensory Perceptions, the Intellect, the
 non-linear sense of time, the vertical sense of space, the feeling of
 the Prana coming in and going out, the flow of life within and
 without
  
   All of these things, begin to be experienced as a 'Kind of Wholeness
 of Awareness' which is translated in Sanskrit to be 'Brahm'...
  
   Brahm is the 'Gap' between 'Unmanifest Silent Witness' and 'Manifest
 Fluctuations of Ego, Intellect, Emotions, Senses, Space and Time...
  
   Being begins to be experienced as 'All That There Is'...
  
   This is the beginning of 'Establishment of Brahman Consciousness' in
 the 'Awareness of Self'...The 'Enlightened Ego and Transclusent
 Intellect that is always in the 'Flow of the Divine'...
  
   Jai Guru Dev
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread sparaig


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Susan wrote:
 
  I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that  
  Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not  
  (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate).
 
 
 MMY claimed in his last interview with Larry King on CCN to be a monk.



At age 80 something with failing health, regardless of what you believe about 
his sex life 30 years earlier, not much of a stretch to think he was telling 
the truth.


L



[FairfieldLife] Priest almost goes to Hell

2012-08-06 Thread Yifu
has NDE, almost goes to Hell; saved by Mary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqiqO5BzH74




[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Ladies lunch

2012-08-06 Thread Joe
May women attend or is this just for ladies?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote:

 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
  From: Dome Announcements owner-dome-l@...
  Subject: DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS--Ladies lunch
  Date: August 6, 2012 10:53:03 AM CDT
  To: Dome-L dome-l@...
  
  All ladies are invited to enjoy lunch together on Wednesday, August 8,
  11:45 to 2:00.
  
  Get your lunch in the regular line and bring it to the North Dining Hall.
  
  This lunch is an opportunity to meet new friends, enjoy the company of old
  friends, and share our bliss.
  
  Let us be together and let us eat together!
  
  
  ps   The menu includes Vegetable Lasagna and Cherry Cheesecake Bar
  
  pss  Please invite your friends.
  
  
  ***
  
  DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS is a moderated list that distributes announcements to the
  Maharishi University of Management community. Send your announcements to
  owner-dome-l@...
  
  Encourage your friends to sign up for DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS. Send an e-mail
  message to dome-l-request@..., and put the word subscribe (without the
  quotation marks) in the body of the message.
  
  To stop receiving DOME ANNOUNCEMENTS, send an e-mail message to:
  dome-l-request@..., and type the word unsubscribe (without the
  quotation marks) in the body of the message.
  
  Or you can send an email to jkarpen@... to be added or removed from the
  list.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Some facts and background on Robin Carlsen / umasking the zebra

2012-08-06 Thread authfriend
lordknows888, I never encountered Robin before he joined
this forum back in June 2011, so I can't address any of
what you say about him from his WTS days--except to
point out that he has openly acknowledged here how
deeply disturbed he was and how painfully he regrets
the damage he did back then.

However, I do not recognize Robin as you describe him
with regard to his participation on FFL.

For example:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lord Knows lordknows888@... wrote:
snip
 To put into perspective and accurate chronology your revelation
 about the Eastern spiritual tradition, it came in 1987 when you 
 told the group that the the mantras we received through TM were
 the names of demons or fallen angels. It did not come years
 later after you had purged yourself of your 
 supposed enlightenment.It was while you were still in a self 
 admitted deeply disturbed state that you received this truth,
 and not as you have represented here as coming years later.

It has been my understanding all along from Robin's posts
that he disavowed Eastern spiritual traditions not long
after he converted to Catholicism in 1987. I don't know
which post or posts you're referring to in which you
perceived him to have claimed that he did so only after
de-enlightening himself. I have to wonder whether you
didn't misunderstand something he wrote.

snip
 Robin your record of accuracy on your grand theories and insights
 is abysmal. A pharmacy student in college is allowed only 3 
 occasions of lethal errors in making up prescriptions before he
 is bounced out of the pharmacy department, if you were held to
 the same standard as a practicing spiritual teacher you would
 have flunked out a hell of long time ago.

He did flunk out a hell of a long time ago, over 25 years ago,
in fact. He no longer considers himself a spiritual teacher,
practicing or otherwise.

 Why it is you think anyone would believe and trust what you
 have to say about religious or metaphysical truth is beyond
 all reckoning.

I have never had the impression that Robin expects anyone
to believe and trust what he has to say, any more than
the rest of us do concerning what we say. In fact, he
frequently says explicitly that he does not expect this.

Personally, given the extraordinary trials Robin has been
through, given that he's been there, done that to a
greater extent than anybody else here, I'm inclined to
consider his ideas and reflections on spirituality
quite seriously. (Note that I said consider, not adopt.)

snip
 Why have you made yourself now the great teacher of anti-
 enlightnment with essentially the same way of projecting that
 you have the inside track on what the truth is? This is really
 just the same as before, you have only changed the content.
 You are now the specially gifted one you is the only person in
 all history to reveal the mystical lie at the heart of the
 Eastern spiritual traditions

I'm sorry, but your tone is so hostile and your characterizations
are so unfair and distorted with regard to how Robin actually
presents himself on FFL that you've done significant damage
to your credibility, as far as I'm concerned.

snip
 Finally Curtis confronted Robin with the deception Robin had
 been carrying on about not having hit any of his followers
 when in fact he had.

And here you're simply wrong. Robin had 'fessed up to the
deception, such as it was, of his own accord, in a post
titled How Robin Struck People—And Lied About it: An Open
Letter to Barry Wright:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302421

(You might want to actually read the letter, since it
confirms a couple of things I said above.)

Curtis had nothing to do with this revelation. Only after
the fact did he decide to take his revenge on Robin by
excoriating him when he was most vulnerable, in one of
the ugliest posts I've ever seen on FFL (although yours
approaches it in sheer viciousness).

 To fill in an additional point about that incident, the person
 who Robin hit told me he thought his jaw might have been broken
 by the force of the blow.

Yes, we've heard about this incident from another former
follower of Robin who posts here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302425?var=1l=1

snip
 One additional point is about Robin's use of irony, he can
 not disprove any factual statement through his use of irony,
 try as he might.

I've never observed Robin attempting to disprove a factual
statement through the use of irony. Have you?

Please note, however, that I've disproved several of your
purportedly factual statements. Your account of Robin on
FFL is pretty disgracefully sloppy where factual issues
are concerned.

One would be inclined to have sympathy for you on the basis
of the difficult times you endured while you were one of
Robin's followers 30-some years ago, if it weren't for the
malice with which you attempt to discredit who he is today.
It appears to me that you've simply projected your outrage
at what you and others had 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mitt just can't help himself

2012-08-06 Thread authfriend
This has been making the rounds for quite some time (since
February, in fact). It's a Photoshop job. Here's the original
AP photo:

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/490196/thumbs/s-MITT-ROMNEY-RMONEY-large640.jpg

Oh, and they aren't Romney's family members either.

(Nor is one of the greatest Freudian slips an original
line from Barry; he copied it from wherever he found the
fudged photo.)


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Trying to stage a photo op involving his family members wearing
 T-shirts to spell out the family's last name, Mitt gets the letters in
 the wrong order and pulls off one of the greatest Freudian slips in
 modern politics:
 
  
 [https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
 341787_1944288480_n.jpg]
 
 https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_3739256993\
 41787_1944288480_n.jpg
 https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532260_373925699\
 341787_1944288480_n.jpg





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
  
   4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to
   spray with invective, how did you know what their
   common derogatory nicknames were on this forum?
   I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog-
   atory and insulting permutation of his posting
   ID that is commonly used here by people with a
   grudge against him.
  
  And here I thought it was a compliment on my consciousness 
  being like the organ that created all sentient beings. Boy 
  did I get that one wrong!
 
 Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet:
 
 A Woman's Sex
 
 It has the original mouth but remains wordless;
 It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair.
 Sentient beings can get completely lost in it
 But it is also the birthplace 
 of all the Buddhas of the ten thousand worlds.

Um, birthplace is not the same as organ of creation.
The two are close together in the female anatomy, but
the vagina is just the entrance to and exit from the
organ itself (the uterus).


 As for the cult apologist claims, I honestly don't know 
 which is sadder to contemplate -- that the person knows
 that the claim of someone hacking Dan's account is 
 ludicrous but said it anyway reflexively because that's
 just what cult apologists DO, or that the person actually
 believes it. The latter implies a level of paranoia and
 self-importance that are right up there with Nabby's
 claims that people are paid by the CIA or by the Dalai
 Lama to badrap TM and MMY on Fairfield Life.

Not if the cult apologist believes it was another
TMer who dunnit.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Some facts and background on Robin Carlsen / umasking the zebra

2012-08-06 Thread Robin Carlsen
Dear Lord Knows,

I don't think it is possible to answer to your accusations here and even try to 
dispute your account of those years you knew me. I am not the person you depict 
in your indictment of me. Those who know me best (including persons who were 
there at the beginning, some 35 years ago, and remain in close contact with me 
even now) know me as I am. They would not agree with your assessment of my 
character or my motivation. And they would, in your presence, claim to have a 
more profound understanding of me than is revealed by what you say about me in 
your post at FFL. If your judgment is the correct one, there will have to be a 
consensus about this. And if someone who has known me through these last 
twenty-five years believes your judgment of me is essentially false, you will 
have to consider that as contradicting what you so sincerely believe is the 
truth about me. I certainly am not prepared to defend anything I did during 
those ten years when I was enlightened--certainly not the incidents you cite in 
your case against me. But that you have got the person Robin in your sights in 
a way which is meaningfully related to who I am, there is where I believe you 
are very much mistaken. 

I cannot and will not attempt to justify my actions while I was enlightened, 
but in terms of where I have come since then I do not recognize myself in your 
portrayal of me here. And either would anyone who has known me through this 
past quarter of a century. I can never hope to challenge your interpretation of 
me based upon the evidence you present here during that time you knew me; but 
in my conscience and in my soul my conviction of the wrongness of your 
estimation of me now compels me to protest the unfairness, the inaccuracy, and 
the unnaturalness of your analysis of me. The person Robin is not who you would 
have me be. I am not that person.

In speaking about Eastern or Western traditions I am merely exercising my free 
speech and what I have to say is based upon my own personal history, my 
reading, and my sense of what is true. I am not seeking for anyone to follow 
me, and I doubt that anyone on this forum feels in any way that I am not 
playing by the rules.

Of course you are entitled to your extremely severe appraisal of my sanity and 
my integrity; and if you are essentially right about me, it is indeed a 
terrible thing for me to believe, as I do certainly believe, that you are 
prejudiced and blind in the damning conclusion you have reached about the 
person that I am. Now.

Only good, however, can come from someone who speaks as you have spoken, and 
who has laid out the case against me in the way that you have. I suppose it was 
inevitable that this would happen. And I am glad it has. In the end it will be 
what the Creator makes of all this that counts, and I hope that he sees things 
more from my perspective than from your perspective. I will pray for you, as 
you evidently have already prayed for me.

Robin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Lord Knows lordknows888@... wrote:

 
 
 Dear Robin,
 
 I know you well, I was in the inner circle of your followers. I lived in the 
 group house you named Annapurna in Victoria. I fully experienced what 
 ultimately became a waking nightmare in being a member of your cult. I have a 
 vivid memory of the day when a member of the group who had been extremely 
 close to you attempted suicide after you ruthlessly confronted her and 
 declared her to be an evil being who was only appearing in the guise of a 
 human being. I remember the meeting at Heronwater in which you spoke with ice 
 cold disdain about her when the news came of her attempted suicide, your only 
 concern was to send someone to her apartment to collect any items from her 
 belongings that could connect her to you. This is a fact, a horrible ugly 
 fact which could be verified by all the people in that room, about 15 members 
 of the inner circle.I am not proud of my involvement in this and many other 
 heartless atrocities that took place over the years I was
  associated with you. In due time my turn came to be on the receiving end of 
 an ultimate pronouncement on my soul as being irretrievably lost and after 
 being brutally confronted by you and the whole group I was ejected from the 
 cult with great scorn. This was the standard operating procedure and happened 
 to many others over the years. 
 
 Robin I have a simple question for you, what in your background gives you the 
 the standing, the credibility to make pronouncements about the ultimate value 
 of the Eastern Spiritual tradition and declare the death of Christianity?  I 
 would have thought that if you were truly remorseful for the harm you had 
 done to so many people, the last thing you would have wanted to do is to give 
 into the temptation to represent yourself as an authority capable of passing 
 judgment on whole spiritual traditions as well as in some instances making 
 harsh judgments about