[FairfieldLife] Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471\ http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22\ Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Hindu statues drink milk and water once more
Hindu statues `drink' milk and water once more Hindu statues in Guyana, South America, were seen to `drink' milk and water that was offered to them in March 2013. Two days after the Hindu festival of Maha Shivaratri on 10 March, people throughout Guyana began reporting that milk and water disappeared when offered to statues of Shiva and other Hindu deities. As news spread of the miraculous phenomenon, crowds gathered at the temples and private residences where the statues were located. Residents of the town of Golconda on the Caribbean island of Trinidad also reported at the festival of Shivaratri that a Hindu statue there accepted offerings of milk. A resident of New York said that after hearing about the reports of the Guyanese miracle statues, she offered water to her statue of a Hindu God on 14 March, and the water disappeared. Also, in Canada, Anjalie Mangroo posted a video of her statue of Lord Shiva drinking milk from a spoon on the same day. Several videos of the miracle statues can be seen on the YouTube website. (Source: www.guardian.co.tt http://www.guardian.co.tt/ ; www.guyanachronicleonline.com http://www.guyanachronicleonline.com/ ; YouTube: Avinash Singh, Sachia Persaud, Priya Devi Pitamber; staceeey13; Anjalie Mangroo) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these miracles were manifested by Maitreya. A previous manifestation of this miracle took place on a huge scale in September 1995. See SI, November 1995, Hindu milk miracle article http://www.share-international.org/archives/signs-miracles/sm_milkmir.h\ tm .) [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] (RIGHT) Posted on Youtube by Avinash Singh, Guyana [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] Posted on Youtube by Priya Devi Pitamber, Guyana [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] (RIGHT) Posted on Youtube by Sachia Persaud, Guyana [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] Posted on Youtube by YouTube: Staceeey13, New York, USA [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-06.htm http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-06.htm\
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hindu statues drink milk and water once more
I had a similar miracle happen for me just the other day. I was sitting on a stone bench in Paris when I happened to spill a little of my can of Coca-Cola onto the bench. Imagine my surprise when the porous stone of the bench drank up the spilled liquid within seconds. Because neither Benjamin Creme nor his channeled Master have certified this miracle as having been manifested by Maitreya, I cannot claim it as such. All I can say is that I later re-performed the experiment with both water and wine (no milk...sorry), and the park bench seems to prefer Coca-Cola, based on the rate at which it drank up the liquid. This probably reveals something low-vibe about the quality of French stone vs. Hindu stone, but you'd have to check with Nabby about that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: Hindu statues `drink' milk and water once more Hindu statues in Guyana, South America, were seen to `drink' milk and water that was offered to them in March 2013. Two days after the Hindu festival of Maha Shivaratri on 10 March, people throughout Guyana began reporting that milk and water disappeared when offered to statues of Shiva and other Hindu deities. As news spread of the miraculous phenomenon, crowds gathered at the temples and private residences where the statues were located. Residents of the town of Golconda on the Caribbean island of Trinidad also reported at the festival of Shivaratri that a Hindu statue there accepted offerings of milk. A resident of New York said that after hearing about the reports of the Guyanese miracle statues, she offered water to her statue of a Hindu God on 14 March, and the water disappeared. Also, in Canada, Anjalie Mangroo posted a video of her statue of Lord Shiva drinking milk from a spoon on the same day. Several videos of the miracle statues can be seen on the YouTube website. (Source: www.guardian.co.tt ; www.guyanachronicleonline.com ; YouTube: Avinash Singh, Sachia Persaud, Priya Devi Pitamber; staceeey13; Anjalie Mangroo) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these miracles were manifested by Maitreya. A previous manifestation of this miracle took place on a huge scale in September 1995. See SI, November 1995, Hindu milk miracle article tm .) [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] (RIGHT) Posted on Youtube by Avinash Singh, Guyana [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] Posted on Youtube by Priya Devi Pitamber, Guyana [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] (RIGHT) Posted on Youtube by Sachia Persaud, Guyana [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] Posted on Youtube by YouTube: Staceeey13, New York, USA [Share International photo for June 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; Hindu statues milk miracle 2013] http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-06.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
Apparently, Keith Wallace, or at least, one of his sons had heard of me. I mentioned my name ages ago on the phone, and Ted (I believe it was), said Oh, yeah! Hi and I had never spoken to him before. I'm [in]famous amongst a really really tiny group of people, apparently... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: well you dumbass of course Wallace never heard of me - I never had any dealings with him since I was not a student - others who were on staff at nearly anytime at MIU can attest to the fact that Movement elitism was and probably is rife amongst the illustrious of the school - the faculty never mixed much with the actual workers - but you go ahead and believe your fantasies. From: Richard J. Williams richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 12:13 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life  Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway mjackson74: that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! TM teachers Can have another life Hey, you're not supposed to be yakking while you're on company time, or for that matter, on the tax-payer's dime. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure. 'Why a Government That Collects Everyone's Private Data Won't Let Its Employees Access Public Information' Reason: http://tinyurl.com/o7x9vpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
I read the online excerpts. A very interesting perspective, though of course, as is always the case, it seems limited because reality is too complex to write down accurately. Certainly, I am aware that there was more going on with Deepak Chopra than the authors mention, and I suspect the same is true with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar and Robin Carlson. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471\ http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22\ Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve - The Heartland Retard Siddhi
Hey, Steve, hope you and your family have a great vacation, fun activities, beautiful outdoors, yummy food and just lots of sweet time to relax together. From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve - The Heartland Retard Siddhi Have at it Ravi. Let me know how it goes. I will be on vacation next week, so, I may remain somewhat out of touch. You can always give me emergency contact info should you run into any problems. I'll respond as quickly as I can. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Steve, I was thinking about the charitable, blessed wonderland of Stevie - you know the one with the toasted raviolis and the crunchy croutons. The one of frivolous, careless, reactive posts, the one where dishonesty, malicious vindictiveness, sadistic obsessiveness and slandering others with psychiatric labels through innuendo is oh so cool, the one where cursing is frowned upon as bad bloodletting. Of what use is my stupid spiritual awakening, my mystical experiences if I don't get to revel in Stevie's wonderland from time to time. Why so much burden and guilt being accountable to every thought, action, word of mine? I also want to taste the beauty of this world where Xeno is the wisest, Barry the happiest, Share the most beautiful, graceful woman. What do I do? How do I resolve this pain and suffering as I feel the futility of my spiritual awakening, when I can't just revel in the sheer retardedness that is the emotionally, psychologically stunted wonderland of Stevie? Aha - say hello to the Heartland Retard Siddhi - a product of my brilliance. I plan to take a month off in developing the Heartland Retard Siddhi that will let me turn into a Stevie anytime I so desire. I plan to trek to the top of Mt. Whitney and perform an intense tapas. Everything has been planned, I plan to take the Mt. Whitney trail with plenty of smokes and gum. In the worst case, i.e. if I fail to achieve the Heartland Retard Siddhi, I plan to irritate Lord Indra enough to make him send me the super-hot and sexy Menaka, a la Sage Vishwamitra, to woo me out of my intense tapas. Wish me luck Steve. Love, Ravi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when I get assholishness in return for my less than saintly actions I can take it. However, all you appear to be able to do is dish it out in steaming shovelfuls. Neverthelss, that is not my problem, I have enough to worry about without trying to continually make you honest, decent or even coherent. Your cozying up to Share is worse than my ragging on her. You use her and feign support when in fact you feel nothing but contempt. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd admit it and stop doing it. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve - The Heartland Retard Siddhi
Thank you Share. I know it will be a fun time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Hey, Steve, hope you and your family have a great vacation, fun activities, beautiful outdoors, yummy food and just lots of sweet time to relax together. From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:32 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Steve - The Heartland Retard Siddhi  Have at it Ravi. Let me know how it goes. I will be on vacation next week, so, I may remain somewhat out of touch. You can always give me emergency contact info should you run into any problems. I'll respond as quickly as I can. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear Steve, I was thinking about the charitable, blessed wonderland of Stevie - you know the one with the toasted raviolis and the crunchy croutons. The one of frivolous, careless, reactive posts, the one where dishonesty, malicious vindictiveness, sadistic obsessiveness and slandering others with psychiatric labels through innuendo is oh so cool, the one where cursing is frowned upon as bad bloodletting. Of what use is my stupid spiritual awakening, my mystical experiences if I don't get to revel in Stevie's wonderland from time to time. Why so much burden and guilt being accountable to every thought, action, word of mine? I also want to taste the beauty of this world where Xeno is the wisest, Barry the happiest, Share the most beautiful, graceful woman. What do I do? How do I resolve this pain and suffering as I feel the futility of my spiritual awakening, when I can't just revel in the sheer retardedness that is the emotionally, psychologically stunted wonderland of Stevie? Aha - say hello to the Heartland Retard Siddhi - a product of my brilliance. I plan to take a month off in developing the Heartland Retard Siddhi that will let me turn into a Stevie anytime I so desire. I plan to trek to the top of Mt. Whitney and perform an intense tapas. Everything has been planned, I plan to take the Mt. Whitney trail with plenty of smokes and gum. In the worst case, i.e. if I fail to achieve the Heartland Retard Siddhi, I plan to irritate Lord Indra enough to make him send me the super-hot and sexy Menaka, a la Sage Vishwamitra, to woo me out of my intense tapas. Wish me luck Steve. Love, Ravi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
turq, it all seems like lifetimes ago. Anyway, I still vote for universal compassion for all the people involved on both sides of the situation, along with doing what I can to help prevent such from happening again, the first step being to heal my own issues as best as I can. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Interesting third party view of the Robin thang I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. That's always the interesting thing-that you can find yourself in disagreement with some here that you might otherwise have an affinity and still remain friendly. Sort of a mark of maturity. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when I get assholishness in return for my less than saintly actions I can take it. However, all you appear to be able to do is dish it out in steaming shovelfuls. Neverthelss, that is not my problem, I have enough to worry about without trying to continually make you honest, decent or even coherent. Your cozying up to Share is worse than my ragging on her. You use her and feign support when in fact you feel nothing but contempt. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd admit it and stop doing it. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471\ http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22\ Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Quite interesting. I know others will say why even bother with something over thirty years old, but some of this (beginning on page 289) directly contradicts many of Robin's avowed claims. Sad really. Judy always trots out the article of faith that Maharishi secretly supported Robin. Sort of blows that up, doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. glad for the clarification Jim and for letting us know how above board and honorable you are for bringing a family member's suicide into the discussion here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin Carlsen thang
Thanks for the third party re-caps. Interesting to ponder the next spiritual demagogue to come along and make a move on things, particularly after the Bevan generation passes. The TMO boards of trustees seem to be in place now figuring out, contending, and getting experience with what they got. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471\ http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22\ Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Give me a break, Steve. You have become so accustomed to Barry's lack of accountability and distortion, that you are coming after ME?? Yes, I always act with integrity, and if I sometimes communicate in a provocative way, that tramples boundaries, so be it. I have nothing to apologize for. As I said, my point was to illustrate the instability and antisocial nature of Barry's personality. To do that, I had to address Barry the same way he addresses others. Like I said, but you don't want to hear it, if you want to get an asshole's attention, you must emulate them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. glad for the clarification Jim and for letting us know how above board and honorable you are for bringing a family member's suicide into the discussion here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. Now you understand why the person who sent the link to me in email didn't want to post it them- selves. Sure is good to see that the enlightened don't throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
You aren't making sense here, just sobbing into your beer again. I very much doubt you could distinguish whether or not I flung a ball of shit at you, Barry, since you perpetually walk around, covered in it. No need to put enlightened in quotes, when speaking about me, either. I already know that you are clueless about it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. Now you understand why the person who sent the link to me in email didn't want to post it them- selves. Sure is good to see that the enlightened don't throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Hi Share, I am afraid you are possibly getting lost in the emotions my posts stir up for you, vs. their actual content. I too have sent Barry birthday greetings, though he has never reciprocated. I don't respond to him in a knee-jerk way, at all. But when he acts stupid, insulting, goading, insecure, unstable, antisocial and mean, which is much of the time, I am on him like white on rice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when I get assholishness in return for my less than saintly actions I can take it. However, all you appear to be able to do is dish it out in steaming shovelfuls. Neverthelss, that is not my problem, I have enough to worry about without trying to continually make you honest, decent or even coherent. Your cozying up to Share is worse than my ragging on her. You use her and feign support when in fact you feel nothing but contempt. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd admit it and stop doing it. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
I lived in one of the pods right next to a guy named Mike Shay who I think is still on staff - when I got there in '85 he had been there nearly 10 years and said the food quality during the time you were there was way better than it had become in the mid '80s. He said they used to have a juicer right in the serving area and had big bags of carrots right next to it so one could make their own fresh juice - I believe he said that at one time they had their own cows to produce milk, but that had ended before my arrival (yeah, I know they are doing that again) and you are right about the bakers working hard - Randy Kreig who preceded me was amazing and did it all by himself but he got burned out and became an ayurvedic tech - then there was Danny Von Phillipsborn and then me - I dunno who took over after I left. I will tell you the worst mistake and the worst thing I ever personally produced was forgetting to put salt in the bread - you can't imagine a more tasteless thing to eat than no salt bread. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Thanks Ann - I don't know why he has his jaws locked around that particular delusion, maybe because I don't believe that all things were born in a Buddhist stupa, but then neither does anyone else on FFL so maybe that's not it. And you are right about the teachers, they pretty much ignored staff unless it was someone with some sort of authority like Bill Sands or Kingsley Brooks. I have to say that the food at MIU, even though you were not there quite yet (1975-1980) was extraordinary and I, for one, appreciate the time, effort and skill that went into preparing seemingly endless quantities of it for us gluttonous students. So thank you and all those before you who made all that meditating, rounding and those siddhi courses bearable by filling those food trays with mounds of delicious breakfasts, lunches and dinners. I had a good friend who was on kitchen staff as a baker back when I was there; I know she worked her butt off. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway mjackson74: that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! He wasn't a student Richard. But you know that. Teachers don't generally know who is on staff, especially in the kitchen - they are too busy enjoying the food. TM teachers Can have another life Hey, you're not supposed to be yakking while you're on company time, or for that matter, on the tax-payer's dime. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure. 'Why a Government That Collects Everyone's Private Data Won't Let Its Employees Access Public Information' Reason: http://tinyurl.com/o7x9vpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Reminds me of a funny joke I heard, which I will modify to fit: Three generals are standing on the battlefield, hearing the approaching army, and preparing for war. We'll call them, Jim, Judy and Barry. Jim calls out first, Bring me my sword and scabbard!, Judy follows, with, My horse - Bring me my horse!, and Barry is last with, My brown pants! Bring me my brown pants! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: You aren't making sense here, just sobbing into your beer again. I very much doubt you could distinguish whether or not I flung a ball of shit at you, Barry, since you perpetually walk around, covered in it. No need to put enlightened in quotes, when speaking about me, either. I already know that you are clueless about it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. Now you understand why the person who sent the link to me in email didn't want to post it them- selves. Sure is good to see that the enlightened don't throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hindu statues ‘drink’ milk and water once more
I love that Benjy is taking what is already a fake event designed by the priests to whip the faithful into a money, jewelery and gold giving to the temple frenzy and take credit for it. Cause lets face it Maitreya ain't never gonna come and show himself cause if he does, Benjy becomes superfluous. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hindu statues ‘drink’ milk and water once more Hindu statues `drink' milk and water once more Hindu statues in Guyana, South America, were seen to `drink' milk and water that was offered to them in March 2013. Two days after the Hindu festival of Maha Shivaratri on 10 March, people throughout Guyana began reporting that milk and water disappeared when offered to statues of Shiva and other Hindu deities. As news spread of the miraculous phenomenon, crowds gathered at the temples and private residences where the statues were located. Residents of the town of Golconda on the Caribbean island of Trinidad also reported at the festival of Shivaratri that a Hindu statue there accepted offerings of milk. A resident of New York said that after hearing about the reports of the Guyanese miracle statues, she offered water to her statue of a Hindu God on 14 March, and the water disappeared. Also, in Canada, Anjalie Mangroo posted a video of her statue of Lord Shiva drinking milk from a spoon on the same day. Several videos of the miracle statues can be seen on the YouTube website. (Source: www.guardian.co.tt; www.guyanachronicleonline.com; YouTube: Avinash Singh, Sachia Persaud, Priya Devi Pitamber; staceeey13; Anjalie Mangroo) (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that these miracles were manifested by Maitreya. A previous manifestation of this miracle took place on a huge scale in September 1995. See SI, November 1995, Hindu milk miracle article.) (RIGHT) Posted on Youtube by Avinash Singh, Guyana Posted on Youtube by Priya Devi Pitamber, Guyana (RIGHT) Posted on Youtube by Sachia Persaud, Guyana Posted on Youtube by YouTube: Staceeey13, New York, USA http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-06.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. I found that academic tome interesting. As one who experienced turquoiseb on coming on this forum, I re-post below his comments to Robin after Robin came on FFL: I'm also not the kinda person who is going to assume that what you say about your experiences or your purported state of consciousness -- past or present -- is true, just because you say it. Some people are. Given your reaction -- some would say overreaction -- to people not treating your words the way you wanted them to, you might be happier trying your spiel on easier audiences. I don't give a shit about your experiences decades ago in Fairfield. If you have any interest for me at all, it will be based on who and what you are today, here and now. And it will be based on what you can come up with to say that might have some relationship to my life. Talking about your subjective experiences and expecting people to be as fasc- inated by them as you were (and obviously still are) is just not gonna cut it. I'd rather read people swapping good recipes for lemon meringue pie. Are we clear? I have nothing against you. I'm not looking to knock you down. I'm just bored by some of your raps, that's all. They have no relevance to my life. And I some- times get the feeling that you don't CARE whether what you say has any relevance to my life, or anyone else's. You give the impression of someone writing with the expectation that others will find his subjective, inner life fascinating, just because he finds it fascinating. Some might. Many New Agers or long-term TMers might. I'm neither one of those. I'm just a guy who likes to jackpot ideas around for the fun of it, with other people who like the same thing. What I write on this forum is my OPINION, nothing more. I try my best to never claim that this opinion is either fact, or that anyone else should share it. You give the impression of someone who is convinced that his subjective view of the world and how it works is more than opinion. Good luck finding people who might agree with you about this. You haven't found one in me. That seems pretty straightforward to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Yes, that weak-minded reply to Robin set the stage, that Barry was incapable of tracking Robin's thought process, and really had no clue what the man was talking about. Then as Barry grew increasingly frustrated with his own lack of comprehension, his commentary on Robin grew increasingly negative and distorted. The same response as a small child might have, when attempting to read a book far beyond his capability. Barry is an excellent writer, for the consciousness he reflects. The problem is that the consciousness is dim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. I found that academic tome interesting. As one who experienced turquoiseb on coming on this forum, I re-post below his comments to Robin after Robin came on FFL: I'm also not the kinda person who is going to assume that what you say about your experiences or your purported state of consciousness -- past or present -- is true, just because you say it. Some people are. Given your reaction -- some would say overreaction -- to people not treating your words the way you wanted them to, you might be happier trying your spiel on easier audiences. I don't give a shit about your experiences decades ago in Fairfield. If you have any interest for me at all, it will be based on who and what you are today, here and now. And it will be based on what you can come up with to say that might have some relationship to my life. Talking about your subjective experiences and expecting people to be as fasc- inated by them as you were (and obviously still are) is just not gonna cut it. I'd rather read people swapping good recipes for lemon meringue pie. Are we clear? I have nothing against you. I'm not looking to knock you down. I'm just bored by some of your raps, that's all. They have no relevance to my life. And I some- times get the feeling that you don't CARE whether what you say has any relevance to my life, or anyone else's. You give the impression of someone writing with the expectation that others will find his subjective, inner life fascinating, just because he finds it fascinating. Some might. Many New Agers or long-term TMers might. I'm neither one of those. I'm just a guy who likes to jackpot ideas around for the fun of it, with other people who like the same thing. What I write on this forum is my OPINION, nothing more. I try my best to never claim that this opinion is either fact, or that anyone else should share it. You give the impression of someone who is convinced that his subjective view of the world and how it works is more than opinion. Good luck finding people who might agree with you about this. You haven't found one in me. That seems pretty straightforward to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender) And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
Re: [FairfieldLife] Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
this is fascinating stuff - thank you for posting it Barry - the folks who wrote this are right on the money: At risk was his entire empire; he had created in addition to his spiritual enterprises, multiple lines of consumer goods to be purchased, television programs, a political party...and even a sovereign country, replete with its own currency. This absolutely sums up the TM Movement and marshy's legacy to T. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 4:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Interesting third party view of the Robin thang I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
No problem Jim. Simply a matter of which boundaries to cross. I have what I feel to be appropriate boundaries that I wouldn't cross, and you have yours. If I feel someone is out of bounds, I will say something, and then move on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: Give me a break, Steve. You have become so accustomed to Barry's lack of accountability and distortion, that you are coming after ME?? Yes, I always act with integrity, and if I sometimes communicate in a provocative way, that tramples boundaries, so be it. I have nothing to apologize for. As I said, my point was to illustrate the instability and antisocial nature of Barry's personality. To do that, I had to address Barry the same way he addresses others. Like I said, but you don't want to hear it, if you want to get an asshole's attention, you must emulate them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. glad for the clarification Jim and for letting us know how above board and honorable you are for bringing a family member's suicide into the discussion here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. Now you understand why the person who sent the link to me in email didn't want to post it them- selves. Sure is good to see that the enlightened don't throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Doc, are you kidding? I mean think about it - is Barry the only person here on FFL that has shit all over someone? Several other people here seem to feel quite free and expert in putting down other people and calling them names (I would say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name calling and putdowns, and they do so frequently) Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a strange guy. No argument there. Now, Barry posted something written by other people. My take was that it was not focusing on Robin and his personality and his diagnoses or problems; it was about the events of that time as seen thru the theme of spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions or dissolve. Robin, Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY and the TMO. Personally I thought it was interesting to get an objective view of those years in the TMO. There were some details about Robin's activities that I did not know about, and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and how it had changed for the worse. It was a rather clear summary from one point of view. I hardly consider that shitting all over Robin. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. Run with it? It's far more likely, given the thing that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll react to people criticizing *him* instead of his intended victims the way both he and Robin have in the past. Run away! Run away! Run away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] TM Music
What would you say is the best and the worst TM themed music you ever heard? I think Paul Fauerso did some decent stuff once upon a time - the worst has to be that ayurvedic honey advertisement.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Yes, that weak-minded reply to Robin set the stage, that Barry was incapable of tracking Robin's thought process, and really had no clue what the man was talking about. Then as Barry grew increasingly frustrated with his own lack of comprehension, his commentary on Robin grew increasingly negative and distorted. The same response as a small child might have, when attempting to read a book far beyond his capability. Barry is an excellent writer, for the consciousness he reflects. The problem is that the consciousness is dim. Why should Barry, or anyone be interested in Robin's thought processes? How do you interpret what Robin says? Say you had to explain what Robin says to someone who was, say, 15 years old, let us say I have the mental capacity of a 15 year old (and you had better believe that is what some here think). What would you say Robin's message was?
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Works for me, Steve. Perhaps I am over the shock factor too, about much of this. I have experienced so much death of friends and family, that I see it more as part of life, now, than some scary finality. The temporary loss of a loved one remains real, though. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: No problem Jim. Simply a matter of which boundaries to cross. I have what I feel to be appropriate boundaries that I wouldn't cross, and you have yours. If I feel someone is out of bounds, I will say something, and then move on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Give me a break, Steve. You have become so accustomed to Barry's lack of accountability and distortion, that you are coming after ME?? Yes, I always act with integrity, and if I sometimes communicate in a provocative way, that tramples boundaries, so be it. I have nothing to apologize for. As I said, my point was to illustrate the instability and antisocial nature of Barry's personality. To do that, I had to address Barry the same way he addresses others. Like I said, but you don't want to hear it, if you want to get an asshole's attention, you must emulate them. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. glad for the clarification Jim and for letting us know how above board and honorable you are for bringing a family member's suicide into the discussion here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. Now you understand why the person who sent the link to me in email didn't want to post it them- selves. Sure is good to see that the enlightened don't throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Doc, are you kidding? I mean think about it - is Barry the only person here on FFL that has shit all over someone? Several other people here seem to feel quite free and expert in putting down other people and calling them names (I would say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name calling and putdowns, and they do so frequently) Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a strange guy. No argument there. Now, Barry posted something written by other people. My take was that it was not focusing on Robin and his personality and his diagnoses or problems; it was about the events of that time as seen thru the theme of spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions or dissolve. Robin, Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY and the TMO. Personally I thought it was interesting to get an objective view of those years in the TMO. There were some details about Robin's activities that I did not know about, and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and how it had changed for the worse. It was a rather clear summary from one point of view. I hardly consider that shitting all over Robin. And I meant to add, neither do I consider Barry's past posts about Robin to be shitting all over him. But then I too found Robin's writings odd and uncomfortable to follow. He appears to be extremely intelligent. And it is not that his posts were intellectually impossible to get, but that his whole style and switching of topics and use of words made me feel as if I was being manipulated (that is the best I can put it, and I did so directly to Robin from day 1). Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc Funny how things happen in pairs. I also have a lurker friend who, after reading many of Barry's posts, had done some research on the Barry phenomena and passed along a couple of relevant readings. They professed hesitation at doing this themselves in order to avoid any brouhaha so I am delivering the message for them. Enjoy! [Image for Disarming the Narcissist: Surviving Thriving with the Self-Absorbed (Easyread Large Edition) from SHOP.CA]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times as you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if scalded. Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my last post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. Run with it? It's far more likely, given the thing that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll react to people criticizing *him* instead of his intended victims the way both he and Robin have in the past. Run away! Run away! Run away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. You go girl; cozy on up to him but if you were ever to decide publicly to support Judy, Jim, Ravi or any of the opposing clique against Barry you'll get the true version of what's really goin' on. Until then, just keep on the right side of the tracks and don't say I didn't warn you. I, personally, can't stand disingenuous people. I don't need supporters and friends who aren't that at all and I can usually see right through them - they have a kind of permeating ooze. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when I get assholishness in return for my less than saintly actions I can take it. However, all you appear to be able to do is dish it out in steaming shovelfuls. Neverthelss, that is not my problem, I have enough to worry about without trying to continually make you honest, decent or even coherent. Your cozying up to Share is worse than my ragging on her. You use her and feign support when in fact you feel nothing but contempt. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd admit it and stop doing it. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
turquoiseb: So, it's all about Robin. Jeez, what a cheap-skate you are, why not just buy the book and give us a review? Go figure. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste Of course, you Moron, you can't CUT and paste from the internet, you can only COPY and paste - what a nerd. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
OK. :-) We'll agree, to disagree. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. Now you understand why the person who sent the link to me in email didn't want to post it them- selves. Sure is good to see that the enlightened don't throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Doc, are you kidding? I mean think about it - is Barry the only person here on FFL that has shit all over someone? Several other people here seem to feel quite free and expert in putting down other people and calling them names (I would say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name calling and putdowns, and they do so frequently) Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a strange guy. No argument there. Now, Barry posted something written by other people. My take was that it was not focusing on Robin and his personality and his diagnoses or problems; it was about the events of that time as seen thru the theme of spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions or dissolve. Robin, Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY and the TMO. Personally I thought it was interesting to get an objective view of those years in the TMO. There were some details about Robin's activities that I did not know about, and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and how it had changed for the worse. It was a rather clear summary from one point of view. I hardly consider that shitting all over Robin. And I meant to add, neither do I consider Barry's past posts about Robin to be shitting all over him. But then I too found Robin's writings odd and uncomfortable to follow. He appears to be extremely intelligent. And it is not that his posts were intellectually impossible to get, but that his whole style and switching of topics and use of words made me feel as if I was being manipulated (that is the best I can put it, and I did so directly to Robin from day 1). Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent.
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. You go girl; cozy on up to him but if you were ever to decide publicly to support Judy, Jim, Ravi or any of the opposing clique against Barry you'll get the true version of what's really goin' on. Until then, just keep on the right side of the tracks and don't say I didn't warn you. I, personally, can't stand disingenuous people. I don't need supporters and friends who aren't that at all and I can usually see right through them - they have a kind of permeating ooze. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when I get assholishness in return for my less than saintly actions I can take it. However, all you appear to be able to do is dish it out in steaming shovelfuls. Neverthelss, that is not my problem, I have enough to worry about without trying to continually make you honest, decent or even coherent. Your cozying up to Share is worse than my ragging on her. You use her and feign support when in fact you feel nothing but contempt. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd admit it and stop doing it. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hindu statues âdrinkâ milk and water once more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I love that Benjy is taking what is already a fake event designed by the priests to whip the faithful into a money, jewelery and gold giving to the temple frenzy and take credit for it. Cause lets face it Maitreya ain't never gonna come and show himself cause if he does, Benjy becomes superfluous. Try google John The Baptist. And let us know what you find :-) http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-06.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
mjackson74: ask the ass how many people he knew who worked in the kitchen - not the kitchen director, but the grunts who did the physical labor Yeah, the next time I see Robert Keith Wallace I'll ask him if he remembers a guy who worked in the kitchen back in the 70's named 'mjackson74'. LoL! Like I said, you've got nothing to report, even if you did work in the kitchen for two years way back then. What would any cafeteria staff know about the TMO or the comings-and-goings of MMY or Bevan anyway, even if they were students? So, I've been reading TMer discussion groups for years, and it's on record that nobody knows what's going on up there in Fairfield with the TMO. You can't even get any useful information from people that live there NOW! Go figure. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! well you dumbass of course Wallace never heard of me - I never had any dealings with him since I was not a student - Robert told me he used to eat bread in the cafeteria all the time and he never heard of a mjackson74. Go figure. others who were on staff at nearly anytime at MIU can attest to the fact that Movement elitism was and probably is rife amongst the illustrious of the school Like who? - the faculty never mixed much with the actual workers - but you go ahead and believe your fantasies. Sounds like a pretty average school - not many faculty hang around the kitchen or out back by the bins. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure. 'Why a Government That Collects Everyone's Private Data Won't Let Its Employees Access Public Information' Reason: http://tinyurl.com/o7x9vpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Gee, Jimbo, for an enlightened person you seem to have your panties in an awful twist. I was just pointing out that your 'tude is reminiscent of all those times you have embarrassed yourself so thoroughly on this forum that you build up to a fever pitch of invective and then disappear for a while, only to come back a few months later with a whole new posting ID, and try for a do over. Who will you be next time? Curious minds want to know in advance. :-) For that matter, since we've pretty much established over the last few days that Judy can't handle Yes/No questions about past actions she's a bit...uh...embarrassed about, let's see how *you* do with such a question: Jim Flanegin, did you ever post to Fairfield Life under the screen name of enlightened_dawn11 between September 2008 and May 2009? Assuming you finally have the balls to say Yes (you never *have* had the...uh...balls to be able to admit it), a followup non-Yes/No question might be: WTF were you *thinking*, posing as a woman all that time? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times as you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if scalded. Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my last post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. Run with it? It's far more likely, given the thing that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll react to people criticizing *him* instead of his intended victims the way both he and Robin have in the past. Run away! Run away! Run away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
I was there in the '80s dummy - but I don't expect you to be able to perceive any form of reality accurately since you have fashioned yourself a hat out of a Buddhist stupa that obscures your vision. From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:12 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life mjackson74: ask the ass how many people he knew who worked in the kitchen - not the kitchen director, but the grunts who did the physical labor Yeah, the next time I see Robert Keith Wallace I'll ask him if he remembers a guy who worked in the kitchen back in the 70's named 'mjackson74'. LoL! Like I said, you've got nothing to report, even if you did work in the kitchen for two years way back then. What would any cafeteria staff know about the TMO or the comings-and-goings of MMY or Bevan anyway, even if they were students? So, I've been reading TMer discussion groups for years, and it's on record that nobody knows what's going on up there in Fairfield with the TMO. You can't even get any useful information from people that live there NOW! Go figure. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! well you dumbass of course Wallace never heard of me - I never had any dealings with him since I was not a student - Robert told me he used to eat bread in the cafeteria all the time and he never heard of a mjackson74. Go figure. others who were on staff at nearly anytime at MIU can attest to the fact that Movement elitism was and probably is rife amongst the illustrious of the school Like who? - the faculty never mixed much with the actual workers - but you go ahead and believe your fantasies. Sounds like a pretty average school - not many faculty hang around the kitchen or out back by the bins. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure. 'Why a Government That Collects Everyone's Private Data Won't Let Its Employees Access Public Information' Reason: http://tinyurl.com/o7x9vpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Ok, Doc, I think what I don't like is when several people gang up on one person. That definitely triggers me. I aim to be more conscious about it. I've read your exchange with Steve about your comment about turq's brother. What to say that's beneficial? I guess I've crossed some lines too. Something else for me to be more conscious about. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion Hi Share, I am afraid you are possibly getting lost in the emotions my posts stir up for you, vs. their actual content. I too have sent Barry birthday greetings, though he has never reciprocated. I don't respond to him in a knee-jerk way, at all. But when he acts stupid, insulting, goading, insecure, unstable, antisocial and mean, which is much of the time, I am on him like white on rice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when I get assholishness in return for my less than saintly actions I can take it. However, all you appear to be able to do is dish it out in steaming shovelfuls. Neverthelss, that is not my problem, I have enough to worry about without trying to continually make you honest, decent or even coherent. Your cozying up to Share is worse than my ragging on her. You use her and feign support when in fact you feel nothing but contempt. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd admit it and stop doing it. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
God, you really are out to lunch, I have posted my full name here any number of times, what state I live in, details of my time at MIU and who I was there with - you really need to get checked by a mental health professional or maybe have an Alzheimer's test, or get your head out of that Buddhist stupa From: Richard J. Williams rich...@rwilliams.us To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway mjackson74: that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! Ann: He wasn't a student Richard. But you know that. He was taking lessons from someone - you don't learn TM and baking from a book. All I'm asking for is a little honesty, Ann. Who is mjackson74 hiding from? Nobody has any cred here that posts anonymously - it's just rumor and smear - nothing the average TMer would be interested in. As long as we're talking about dead people and other people behind their back, why not just tell the whole story? Teachers don't generally know who is on staff, especially in the kitchen - they are too busy enjoying the food. TM teachers Can have another life Hey, you're not supposed to be yakking while you're on company time, or for that matter, on the tax-payer's dime. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hindu statues ‘drink’ milk and water once more
he was Jesus' buddy - and didn't have anything to do with Benjy - you are almost as whacky as Richard Williams From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hindu statues ‘drink’ milk and water once more --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I love that Benjy is taking what is already a fake event designed by the priests to whip the faithful into a money, jewelery and gold giving to the temple frenzy and take credit for it. Cause lets face it Maitreya ain't never gonna come and show himself cause if he does, Benjy becomes superfluous. Try google John The Baptist. And let us know what you find :-) http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-06.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway mjackson74: that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! Ann: He wasn't a student Richard. But you know that. He was taking lessons from someone - you don't learn TM and baking from a book. All I'm asking for is a little honesty, Ann. Who is mjackson74 hiding from? Nobody has any cred here that posts anonymously - it's just rumor and smear - nothing the average TMer would be interested in. As long as we're talking about dead people and other people behind their back, why not just tell the whole story? Teachers don't generally know who is on staff, especially in the kitchen - they are too busy enjoying the food. TM teachers Can have another life Hey, you're not supposed to be yakking while you're on company time, or for that matter, on the tax-payer's dime. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
mjackson74: Thanks Ann - I don't know why he has his jaws locked around that particular delusion, Just tell us who you are and who was your TM Teacher, and cut all the bullshit- just be honest. maybe because I don't believe that all things were born in a Buddhist stupa, but then neither does anyone else on FFL so maybe that's not it. It was not my idea to have the TMers meditate inside a golden stupa dome - MMY came up with that on his own. Go figure. And you are right about the teachers, they pretty much ignored staff unless it was someone with some sort of authority like Bill Sands or Kingsley Brooks. Now I'm really impressed! Bill Sands and Kingsley Brooks, both said they never heard of you. LoL! Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! He wasn't a student Richard. But you know that. Teachers don't generally know who is on staff, especially in the kitchen - they are too busy enjoying the food. TM teachers Can have another life Hey, you're not supposed to be yakking while you're on company time, or for that matter, on the tax-payer's dime. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure. 'Why a Government That Collects Everyone's Private Data Won't Let Its Employees Access Public Information' Reason: http://tinyurl.com/o7x9vpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Zimmerman trial - So, it's all about race
But whatever George Zimmerman's culpability in Martin's shooting, he is not to blame for the social order of pre-civil-rights America. He has every right to mount a vigorous defense, and the judge and jury have a duty, as in any trial, to give the defendant the benefit of any reasonable doubt. The rightful term to describe a criminal trial that serves as a 'referendum' is show trial. 'Cracking' the Case' http://tinyurl.com/ms7njhs Mike Dixon wrote: It's been political from the get- go. This has been a lame attempt at rehabilitating the unfortunate image of many young black males in America today. If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon. The media has pushed the image of a younger, more wholesome, clean-cut Trayvon being racially profiled by a *white*, oops, *white Hispanic* vigilante. NBC was caught , red-handed, editing 911 tapes in an attempt to make Zimmerman's motives look racially charged. At the same time,the media only shows us photos of Martin some 4 -5 years younger, less intimidating, no *grill*,no mention of his reputation for fighting or drug use. The facts coming out in the trial are showing why Zimmerman was not charged in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, it's the media that is on trial and I find them guilty of misuse of the facts to promote a political agenda. From: Richard J. Williams richard@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 6:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Zimmerman trial - So, it's all about race  We don't believe the focus was really race - Martin Family Attorney That's a remarkable statement to come from the Martin legal team, since race is the only reason we're having this trial at all. Everyone from the Martin family's lawyers, to the professional grievance industry, to characters like the New Black Panther Party was busy whipping up riot conditions and treating Zimmerman as a fugitive from racial justice, which led to filmmaker Spike Lee endangering the lives of an innocent couple that just happened to be named 'Zimmerman.' And there's a good reason the media referred to Zimmerman as 'white' until photos of him finally leaked out, and they had to change it to 'white Hispanic,' a very special demographic of which George Zimmerman seems to remain the only high-profile member. 'The focus most certainly is race at the Zimmerman trial' http://tinyurl.com/qz7teg2
[FairfieldLife] 2013 Global Peace Games Volunteer Opportunities
Dear All, Sub: 2013 Global Peace Games Volunteer Placements: The 2013 Global Peace Games commences on the 18th July to 21s September 2013, International Day of Peace. We have Volunteer opportunities during the 2013 Global Peace Games e.g. involve spending quality time sharing Training Peer Coaches, Conducting Sports Clinics, Teaching young people non violence skills, sports talents development and having fun with Orphans War affected Children in Uganda through our Sports Projects. kindly visit our 2013 Peace Games Page at http://www.aymu.org/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=108Itemid=154 OR http://is.gd/OrQnyM For details on available Volunteer Internship details, kindly visit http://is.gd/Hp1wRM To apply online for volunteer placements, kindly follow the link http://www.aymu.org/index.php? option=com_contentview= articleid=93Itemid=139 Besides, we Urgently need Donations of Sports Equipments, to support this cause, kindly drop us an email at peacega...@aymu.org Let Peace Prevail on Earth, Albert KUNIHIRA CEO/Peace AIDS Activist Africa Youth Ministries P.O. BOX 20029, Kampala-Uganda Plot 002 Jerusalem Avenue, Off Airport Road P: +256-776-22/753-22/ 793-22Online Giving: www.aymu.givengain.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. I totally get it Doc and I agree. I found it interesting for all his shit slinging at you re: your brother and hence some farcical conclusions about some supposed homophobia on your part that when the opportunity comes up to play the big sympathy card Barry grabs at it with both hands. Of course it is tragic that his brother shot himself in some delusional state but then he should, if he is anything resembling human, be able to place himself in your position having undoubtedly watched your brother die a hard and prolonged death. I just don't get where Barry doesn't consider himself part of the human race in some very real sense. In the meantime, your brother and your personal relationship to him is yours and yours alone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. glad for the clarification Jim and for letting us know how above board and honorable you are for bringing a family member's suicide into the discussion here. Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I lived in one of the pods right next to a guy named Mike Shay who I think is still on staff - when I got there in '85 he had been there nearly 10 years and said the food quality during the time you were there was way better than it had become in the mid '80s. He said they used to have a juicer right in the serving area and had big bags of carrots right next to it so one could make their own fresh juice - I believe he said that at one time they had their own cows to produce milk, but that had ended before my arrival (yeah, I know they are doing that again) You are correct on the juicing and every night at dinner there was this giant ice cream bar where you could make chocolate or other types of sundays with all the fixin's on top. and you are right about the bakers working hard - Randy Kreig who preceded me was amazing and did it all by himself but he got burned out and became an ayurvedic tech - then there was Danny Von Phillipsborn and then me - I dunno who took over after I left. I will tell you the worst mistake and the worst thing I ever personally produced was forgetting to put salt in the bread - you can't imagine a more tasteless thing to eat than no salt bread. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Thanks Ann - I don't know why he has his jaws locked around that particular delusion, maybe because I don't believe that all things were born in a Buddhist stupa, but then neither does anyone else on FFL so maybe that's not it. And you are right about the teachers, they pretty much ignored staff unless it was someone with some sort of authority like Bill Sands or Kingsley Brooks. I have to say that the food at MIU, even though you were not there quite yet (1975-1980) was extraordinary and I, for one, appreciate the time, effort and skill that went into preparing seemingly endless quantities of it for us gluttonous students. So thank you and all those before you who made all that meditating, rounding and those siddhi courses bearable by filling those food trays with mounds of delicious breakfasts, lunches and dinners. I had a good friend who was on kitchen staff as a baker back when I was there; I know she worked her butt off. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:04 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway mjackson74: that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! He wasn't a student Richard. But you know that. Teachers don't generally know who is on staff, especially in the kitchen - they are too busy enjoying the food. TM teachers Can have another life Hey, you're not supposed to be yakking while you're on company time, or for that matter, on the tax-payer's dime. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure. 'Why a Government That Collects Everyone's Private Data Won't Let Its Employees Access Public Information' Reason: http://tinyurl.com/o7x9vpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times as you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if scalded. Barry will also wait until Judy is close to or has posted out for the week then out he comes slapping his posts all over FFL like cheap posters on the side of walls and telephone poles. The internet is a wonderful medium for bullies and cowards - there is so little accountability when you can simply walk away from the computer or never have to look at someone in the face. Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my last post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. Run with it? It's far more likely, given the thing that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll react to people criticizing *him* instead of his intended victims the way both he and Robin have in the past. Run away! Run away! Run away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ \
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
turq, what we know is that Robin is not currently posting. We can only speculate as to why. It could be that he's wisely and compassionately avoiding a situation that neither benefits him nor others. It could be something else. It could be a mix of reasons. And I could be wrong. Robin himself has said that I don't understand him. Be that as it may, I prefer to think well of him. And if he gives me reason to think otherwise, to deal with that in the present. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 8:31 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. Run with it? It's far more likely, given the thing that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll react to people criticizing *him* instead of his intended victims the way both he and Robin have in the past. Run away! Run away! Run away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Is this supposed to be your tough guy routine?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Gee, Jimbo, for an enlightened person you seem to have your panties in an awful twist. I was just pointing out that your 'tude is reminiscent of all those times you have embarrassed yourself so thoroughly on this forum that you build up to a fever pitch of invective and then disappear for a while, only to come back a few months later with a whole new posting ID, and try for a do over. Who will you be next time? Curious minds want to know in advance. :-) For that matter, since we've pretty much established over the last few days that Judy can't handle Yes/No questions about past actions she's a bit...uh...embarrassed about, let's see how *you* do with such a question: Jim Flanegin, did you ever post to Fairfield Life under the screen name of enlightened_dawn11 between September 2008 and May 2009? Assuming you finally have the balls to say Yes (you never *have* had the...uh...balls to be able to admit it), a followup non-Yes/No question might be: WTF were you *thinking*, posing as a woman all that time? :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times as you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if scalded. Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my last post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. Run with it? It's far more likely, given the thing that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll react to people criticizing *him* instead of his intended victims the way both he and Robin have in the past. Run away! Run away! Run away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
I really do not care what anyone says about me, if they own their shit. He never does, so I think of him as a pussy and a coward. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: I specifically targeted Barry, and his punching his brother in the stomach, because I wanted to respond to him, as he does others, and get his attention. I would do exactly the same thing again, if necessary. Instead of getting my point, the best be could do was criticize the fact that my brother was gay, and that I could be too. I was shocked by his juvenile response, though perhaps in a quiet moment, he will recognize he is mostly fighting with himself on here. I also find it fascinating that this guy, who will fling a ball of shit at someone, faster than a chimpanzee, is so so very delicate and such a wounded child, within. He actually feels that I am not responding to him, but have a vendetta *against* him. Pretty fucking sick. My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. I totally get it Doc and I agree. I found it interesting for all his shit slinging at you re: your brother and hence some farcical conclusions about some supposed homophobia on your part that when the opportunity comes up to play the big sympathy card Barry grabs at it with both hands. Of course it is tragic that his brother shot himself in some delusional state but then he should, if he is anything resembling human, be able to place himself in your position having undoubtedly watched your brother die a hard and prolonged death. I just don't get where Barry doesn't consider himself part of the human race in some very real sense. In the meantime, your brother and your personal relationship to him is yours and yours alone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: turq, I'm sorry about your brother. It sounds like you cared about him a lot. Hope you all had some good times too. He was a funny guy, and yes, we had some good times before the alcoholism got to him. It's a scary disease, and alcohol-induced psychosis is even scarier. But I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their get Barry vendettas. AIDS and alcohol-induced psychosis. Two dead brothers, two brothers left to grieve in their own ways. Not a subject to take lightly or to use to hurt each other. I have a dead sister who drowned as an indirect result of alcohol. Also not something to use against anyone. I think we can all agree on this. My condolences to you both.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
On 07/03/2013 01:56 AM, turquoiseb wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471\ http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22\ Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc Robin who?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Yes, he has sunburned his psyche, when it comes to taking criticism. So stuff that rolls off me like water off a duck's back, sears into Barry as if his responders had thrown acid on him. By pushing out negative thoughts for so long, he kinda fucked himself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Glad you are giving it some thought. I have often noticed when I nail your ignorance, Barry, that you will no longer post that day. It is really a striking contrast - If I say nothing, you will blithely post as many times as you like, but when I call you on your shit, you stop posting, as if scalded. Barry will also wait until Judy is close to or has posted out for the week then out he comes slapping his posts all over FFL like cheap posters on the side of walls and telephone poles. The internet is a wonderful medium for bullies and cowards - there is so little accountability when you can simply walk away from the computer or never have to look at someone in the face. Oh man, and the other thing I really really wished I had mentioned in my last post, is your pandering to your imagined audience. You will call me Jimbo or Doc, depending on which way you think the public wind is blowing. This time its Jimbo - h. Very chickenshit of you, dude. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Please, settle down, Steve. I could not care less about Robin, or his reputation on here. I've gathered that Jim. But more information about something is better than less information when you are sorting something out. And neither am I gloating about something that appears to go against Robin, (and Judy, at this point, as she has positioned herself as Robin's most ardent defender). And nor do I see Barry gloating about it. But since he has been vilified as being such a hater of Robin, (next to Curtis of course, as determined by Judy, who evidently has a scale for such things), why not bring it to the table. In a few hours it will be far in the rear view mirror, unless other parties decide to run with it. Run with it? It's far more likely, given the thing that Jimbo has most in common with Robin, that he'll react to people criticizing *him* instead of his intended victims the way both he and Robin have in the past. Run away! Run away! Run away! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92gP2J0CUjc :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
I too have sent Barry birthday greetings, though he has never reciprocated. I think you missed this part. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, Doc, I think what I don't like is when several people gang up on one person. That definitely triggers me. I aim to be more conscious about it. I've read your exchange with Steve about your comment about turq's brother. What to say that's beneficial? I guess I've crossed some lines too. Something else for me to be more conscious about. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  Hi Share, I am afraid you are possibly getting lost in the emotions my posts stir up for you, vs. their actual content. I too have sent Barry birthday greetings, though he has never reciprocated. I don't respond to him in a knee-jerk way, at all. But when he acts stupid, insulting, goading, insecure, unstable, antisocial and mean, which is much of the time, I am on him like white on rice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when I get assholishness in return for my less than saintly actions I can take it. However, all you appear to be able to do is dish it out in steaming shovelfuls. Neverthelss, that is not my problem, I have enough to worry about without trying to continually make you honest, decent or even coherent. Your cozying up to Share is worse than my ragging on her. You use her and feign support when in fact you feel nothing but contempt. If you had an ounce of integrity you'd admit it and stop doing it. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Yikes, Doc! I did miss that. Actually I misinterpreted it, being totally triggered by my own stuff about that kind of thing. Thanks for pointing it out. My official diagnosis is Attachment Disorder so I can easily get triggered when people ignore me. FFL's great for working on that (-: You know, FFL also helped me heal after my last relationship ended and I'm grateful for that too. To Ann: if seeing both the strengths and weaknesses in people is being disingenuous, then I'll continue doing that. Actually some experts say that it's a sign of good growth when someone can reframe from an all negative appraisal to a more realistic appraisal that acknowledges both the positive and the negative in a person, event or circumstances. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:06 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion I too have sent Barry birthday greetings, though he has never reciprocated. I think you missed this part. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ok, Doc, I think what I don't like is when several people gang up on one person. That definitely triggers me. I aim to be more conscious about it. I've read your exchange with Steve about your comment about turq's brother. What to say that's beneficial? I guess I've crossed some lines too. Something else for me to be more conscious about. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  Hi Share, I am afraid you are possibly getting lost in the emotions my posts stir up for you, vs. their actual content. I too have sent Barry birthday greetings, though he has never reciprocated. I don't respond to him in a knee-jerk way, at all. But when he acts stupid, insulting, goading, insecure, unstable, antisocial and mean, which is much of the time, I am on him like white on rice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ann, if turq feels, as you say below, nothing but contempt for me, that's ok with me but in that case he should get the 2013 Online Acting Award IMHO. What I like is that turq can call me an idiot one day and the next day send me a birthday song. IOW he doesn't get stuck. I think this is something about turq that you and Judy and Doc mostly miss. Often the three of you seem to have automatic, knee jerk reactions to him. As for not using dead siblings to hurt one another, I think Steve mentioned this to Doc a few days ago, something about making family off limits. I think this applies doubly when it comes to family tragedies. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 7:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy to Ann about Share: She ignored a bunch of the questions I asked her too. Share replies: now who's being juvenile and an obstinate child? I vote for Judy. As for Ann, she's returned as her usual arrogant self declaring who's worthy or her approval. Not who's worthy just who happens to have it. I neither approve or disapprove of you. Respect is another thing all together though, oh, and believability. Not feeling so charitable and compassionate today, calling me arrogant and implying I'm always like that? Tsk, tsk, I'll make sure to keep my hair out of your reach if we ever meet. Or maybe you're one of those 'claw your eyes out' kind of girls. Ahem. Ann, posting April 3, after being referred to as a mere minion-bitch, trying to impress the uber- bitch by ragging continually (even then) on Share: I resent the implication that I am a minion-bitch here. If I can't be the uber version then I am taking my verbal weaponry and plying my trade elsewhere. I can clearly see I am under appreciated here. I'm used to being the top banana, the big cheese and I refuse to play any sort of second fiddle to anyone. Understood? I don't get it. Your Ahem paragraph doesn't seem to relate to the quote from my post. My paragraph was a big fat ironic (or is it sarcastic?) statement but hardly a rag on Share. I certainly have given her as good as she likes to dole out, just in a different way. One thing Barry; I can admit what I do and why I do it. I take responsibility for my actions and I freely admit I'm fallible. I told you I can be a jerk and when
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Yikes, Doc! I did miss that. Actually I misinterpreted it, being totally triggered by my own stuff about that kind of thing. Thanks for pointing it out. My official diagnosis is Attachment Disorder snip No biggie, there is a lot of that going around. Perhaps even an epidemic.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
mjackson74: God, you really are out to lunch, I have posted my full name here any number of times, what state I live in, details of my time at MIU and who I was there with - you really need to get checked by a mental health professional or maybe have an Alzheimer's test, or get your head out of that Buddhist stupa So, you drove up to Iowa to work in the kitchen of a religious school and tried to fly inside a golden dome for two years, but I'm the one that needs to get checked by a mental health professional or have an Alzheimer's test? Go figure. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway mjackson74: that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! Ann: He wasn't a student Richard. But you know that. He was taking lessons from someone - you don't learn TM and baking from a book. All I'm asking for is a little honesty, Ann. Who is mjackson74 hiding from? Nobody has any cred here that posts anonymously - it's just rumor and smear - nothing the average TMer would be interested in. As long as we're talking about dead people and other people behind their back, why not just tell the whole story? Teachers don't generally know who is on staff, especially in the kitchen - they are too busy enjoying the food. TM teachers Can have another life Hey, you're not supposed to be yakking while you're on company time, or for that matter, on the tax-payer's dime. LoL! Your name is already mud all over Fairfield so why insult the TMers here? You suck as an informant - I get more TMer news from the Radiance listserv in Austin. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
As understand it, MMY said that Robin Carlson's experiences of Unity (book says Cosmic Consciousness) were valid and asked him to describe them. Robin took this as a personal declaration of his own full enlightenment and, like others have done, refused to go and be viable in society, but instead got full of himself. MMY not wanting to comment in public on Robin's enlightenment is no more significant than him not wanting to comment on MY enlightenment: it's not his place to micromanage arbitrary people's states of consciousness. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Quite interesting. I know others will say why even bother with something over thirty years old, but some of this (beginning on page 289) directly contradicts many of Robin's avowed claims. Sad really. Judy always trots out the article of faith that Maharishi secretly supported Robin. Sort of blows that up, doesn't it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
mjackson74: I was there in the '80s dummy For what purpose? - but I don't expect you to be able to perceive any form of reality accurately since you have fashioned yourself a hat out of a Buddhist stupa that obscures your vision. You should have insisted on placing a relic of your dead guru inside your golden dome. That way, you could have worshipped MMY as a God, or at least an Avatar while flying around in there. Go figure. In fact, MMY improved on the stupa idea - a hollow tope - brilliant!!! Stupas were built of stones or bricks to commemorate important events or mark important places associated with Buddhism or to house important relics of Buddha. http://indiapicks.com/annapurna/B_Buddhist.htm BUDDHIST ART ARCHITECTURE: http://indiapicks.com/annapurna/B_Buddhist.htm http://indiapicks.com/annapurna/B_Buddhist.htm ask the ass how many people he knew who worked in the kitchen - not the kitchen director, but the grunts who did the physical labor Yeah, the next time I see Robert Keith Wallace I'll ask him if he remembers a guy who worked in the kitchen back in the 70's named 'mjackson74'. LoL! Like I said, you've got nothing to report, even if you did work in the kitchen for two years way back then. What would any cafeteria staff know about the TMO or the comings-and-goings of MMY or Bevan anyway, even if they were students? So, I've been reading TMer discussion groups for years, and it's on record that nobody knows what's going on up there in Fairfield with the TMO. You can't even get any useful information from people that live there NOW! Go figure. Nobody I know ever heard of you at MUM, anyway that's because you never knew anyone who counted It is a fact that Robert Keith Wallace never heard of you. besides, I was never at MUM - I worked for MIU Not one single teacher at MIU can remember you. LoL! well you dumbass of course Wallace never heard of me - I never had any dealings with him since I was not a student - Robert told me he used to eat bread in the cafeteria all the time and he never heard of a mjackson74. Go figure. others who were on staff at nearly anytime at MIU can attest to the fact that Movement elitism was and probably is rife amongst the illustrious of the school Like who? - the faculty never mixed much with the actual workers - but you go ahead and believe your fantasies. Sounds like a pretty average school - not many faculty hang around the kitchen or out back by the bins. LoL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Getting More Metadata
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has apologized for telling Congress earlier this year that the National Security Agency does not collect data on millions of Americans, a response he now... 'Clapper apologizes for 'erroneous' answer on NSA' Associated Press: http://tinyurl.com/mzmoutv The FBI confirmed the active development of 'Magic Lantern', a keylogger intended to obtain passwords to encrypted e-mail and other documents during criminal investigations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_AntiVirus In the new world of the NSA, the only secret left is Barack Obama's college grades. Tweeted by Roger Simon: http://tinyurl.com/lgjku5h Clapper was asked by Oregon senator Ron Wyden in a March congressional hearing whether the government was collecting any type of data at all on millions of Americans. He responded, No, sir. The Corner: http://tinyurl.com/mg3zotg Why did the leader of the U.S. intelligence community mislead Congress in March by answering a question about the program... National Journal: http://tinyurl.com/kjyozsz Then they send in the SWAT teams, or they just blackmail you for 'obstructing justice'. Go figure. A Kenyan was hand-picked and groomed for the Oval Office. This explains his rise to the top. Now, he has to tow the line just as directed. Allowing foreign persons in any level of government is insane and should be against the law. LoL! Obama can't even be allowed to speak without a TelePrompTer or a Blackberry. The President is spoon-fed exactly what to say and do. Why do you think Obama is spending 100 million dollars to visit Africa? From what I've read, FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds and Tice agreed that such wide-ranging surveillance of officials could provide the intelligence agencies with unthinkable power to blackmail their opponents. 'Government could use metadata to map your every move http://tinyurl.com/mbq2zqn
[FairfieldLife] The Feds must be looking for Willy
Word is there are a bunch of military planes circling and flying low over Austin including those big white 747 like planes. How 'bout some pictures and video, Willy?
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. I totally get it Doc and I agree. I found it interesting for all his shit slinging at you re: your brother and hence some farcical conclusions about some supposed homophobia on your part that when the opportunity comes up to play the big sympathy card Barry grabs at it with both hands. This is really funny, so in the absence of Judy Stein (who is probably laying low trying desperately not to use up her last few posts), I'll replay the events that Ann inaccurately summarizes, to provide some Steinian context. First, Richard Williams, in one of his characteristic troll moves, did a search on FFL and came up with a post about Barry striking someone. In a response to that, I not only admitted it, I clarified it, supply- ing the context that the person I had struck was my brother, and that I did so because he had already beaten up one 70-year-old man (our father), and was in the process of trying to do the same thing with another 70-year-old man (a neighbor), all while screaming You people don't even EXIST. Enlightened Jim Flanegin responded to this by invoking the acronym DNA, as he has explained here, to create the impression that am the way I am (whatever that is in his mind) is because of my crazy brother. At that point, I did not and still do not hold Jimbo respon- sible for using my dead brother to get me. Jimbo has trouble remembering what he said *the day before*, let alone something that might have been mentioned on FFL years ago. :-) But I felt I should respond, so I gave him a little taste of his own medicine, suggesting that if he could invoke DNA as a rationale for my actions, I could invoke the same DNA argument as a rationale for why he consistently makes gay slur insults against Curtis and myself on this forum, saying ...you're afraid your 'bad genes' will catch up to you. Jimbo responded by doubling down, and making excuses for this, *after he knew that my brother had committed suicide*. I don't see how he can object, since *he* supplied the very reason I invoked *his* brother in the first place, with ...if you want to get an asshole's attention, you must emulate them. Meanwhile, Judy Stein (who *prides herself* on never forgetting something that has been mentioned before on FFL, and thus who *knew* that I was talking about my brother who later committed suicide) piled on and said, putting imaginary words into my mouth, much like her imaginary boyfriend Robin used to do with Curtis: It seemed like the right thing to do at the time, but in retrospect it was very wrong. In fact, I needed that punch a lot more than my brother did. I was the one who was out of control. And remember, Judy *cannot* invoke the I didn't know I was saying he hit his dead brother because *he* was the one out of control because she has positioned herself so many times as someone who *never forgets anything said here on FFL*. So she clearly knew what she was doing. All of this is why, when Share actually said something nice about my brother, I said, I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their 'get Barry' vendettas. NONE of the three of them can dispute this. They all *had* used my dead brother just to get Barry. And at least two of them (Jim, after he knew what had become of him, and Judy, all along) did so knowingly. Richard doesn't post *anything* knowingly, so I cut him a little slack. Please note that in my sentence above I did not include Ann. She has since made statements that force me to revise that sentence, and include her, too. None of this will affect them in any way; I write it for the bystanders and the lurkers, to help them evaluate what will undoubtedly turn into a veritable shitstorm of get Barry posts from all four of them over the next week. Unlike the four of them, I am not trying to tell you what to think. I'm merely presenting some history about all of this, and allowing you to come to your *own* conclusions. WATCH over the next four days, and see whether these four respect you enough to do the same.
[FairfieldLife] Paula Deen, was milk and water once more
mjackson74: he was Jesus' buddy - and didn't have anything to do with Benjy - you are almost as whacky as Richard Williams Don't you just hate those Hindus! Have you ever considered taking a cooking or baking course? I know where you can get a janitorial job at a community college. Do you have any experience with dish washing and mopping up on the night shift? LoL! Hey, are related to this gal? Lisa Jackson, a former employee of Deen's who was fired, filed a lawsuit against Deen and her younger brother, Earl Bubba Hiers, alleging racial and sexual discrimination. I'm gonna find you, George Stark, you toxic little queen, and I'm gonna... - Alec Baldwin 'Why Has Paula Deen Been Vilified, While Alec Baldwin's Been Given a Pass?' Daily Beast: http://tinyurl.com/n8794ys I love that Benjy is taking what is already a fake event designed by the priests to whip the faithful into a money, jewelery and gold giving to the temple frenzy and take credit for it. Cause lets face it Maitreya ain't never gonna come and show himself cause if he does, Benjy becomes superfluous.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: mjackson74: I was there in the '80s dummy For what purpose? To unstress his brains out until he was finally showed the door :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life
the ones who seemed to be doing the most unstressing were Bevan, Greg Wilson, Susan Humphries, Chris Crowell and others of that ilk who were scared to death that someone would look around a find another path more amenable to their lives and thus take money and praise away from them and marshy. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 1:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM teachers Can have another life --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: mjackson74: I was there in the '80s dummy For what purpose? To unstress his brains out until he was finally showed the door :-)
[FairfieldLife] What some are doing while you're arguing on FFL...
...and busy trying to get the people you don't like... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/02/kim-jung-gi_n_3535442.html
[FairfieldLife] Egyptian Military Coup Under Way
The reign of Mohammed Morsi is over. The next question is: who will take over? http://news.yahoo.com/egypts-mursi-defies-army-plots-future-without-him-010721364.html
[FairfieldLife] Chariots of the Gods of the Gaps?
How Beliefs in Extraterrestrials and Intelligent Design Are Similar Arguments of divine interventionalien or otherwisestart with ignorance By Michael Shermer http://www.scientificamerican.com/author.cfm?id=597 1 inShare Share on Tumblr http://www.tumblr.com/share http://pinterest.com/pin/create/button/?url=http://www.scientificameric\ an.com/article.cfm?id=how-beliefs-extraterrestrials-and-intelligent-desi\ gn-are-similarmedia=http://www.scientificamerican.com/media/inline/impo\ rted/gods-of-the-gaps_2.jpgdescription= Image: Izhar Cohen According to the popular series Ancient Aliens, on H2 (a spinoff of the History channel), extraterrestrial intelligences visited Earth in the distant past, as evidenced by numerous archaeological artifacts whose scientific explanations prove unsatisfactory for alien enthusiasts. The series is the latest in a genre launched in 1968 by Erich von Däniken, whose book Chariots of the Gods? became an international best seller. It spawned several sequels, including Gods from Outer Space, The Gods Were Astronauts and, just in time for the December 21, 2012, doomsday palooza, Twilight of the Gods: The Mayan Calendar and the Return of the Extraterrestrials (the ones who failed to materialize). Ancient aliens theory is grounded in a logical fallacy called argumentum ad ignorantiam, or argument from ignorance. The illogical reasoning goes like this: if there is no satisfactory terrestrial explanation for, say, the Nazca lines of Peru, the Easter Island statues or the Egyptian pyramids, then the theory that they were built by aliens from outer space must be true. Whereas the talking heads of Ancient Aliens conjecture that ETs used acoustic stone levitation to build the pyramids, for example, archaeologists have discovered images demonstrating how tens of thousands of Egyptian workers employed wood sleds to move the stones along roads from the quarry to the site and then hauled them up gently sloping dirt ramps of an ever growing pyramid. Copper drills, chisels, saws and awls have been found in the rubble around the Great Pyramid of Giza, and the quarries are filled with half-finished blocks and broken tools that show how the Egyptians worked the stone. Conspicuously absent from the archaeological record are any artifacts more advanced than those known to be used in the third millennium B.C. Another alleged aliens artifact is a symbol found in the Egyptian Dendera Temple complex that vaguely resembles a modern lightbulb, with a squiggly filament inside and a plug at the bottom. Instead of featuring archaeologists who would explain that the symbol depicts a creation myth of the time (the plug is a lotus flower that represents life arising from the primordial waters, and the filament signifies a snake), ancient aliens fantasists speculate that the Egyptians were given the power of electricity by the gods. In this if this were true, what else would be true? line of inquiry, it is telling that no electrical wires, glass bulbs, metal filaments or electric power stations have ever been excavated. On the lid of the sarcophagus of the Mayan king Pakal in Mexico is a rocketlike image that Ancient Aliens consulting producer Giorgio Tsoukalos claims depicts the ruler in a spaceship: He is at an angle like modern-day astronauts upon liftoff. He is manipulating some controls. He has some type of breathing apparatus or some type of a telescope in front of his face. His feet are on some type of a pedal. And you have something that looks like an exhaustwith flames. According to Mayan archaeologists, however, this depiction shows King Pakal sitting atop the sun monster and descending into the underworld (where the sun goes at night) within a world treea classic mythological symbol, with branches stretched into the heavens and roots dug into the underworld. Ancient aliens arguments from ignorance resemble intelligent design God of the gaps arguments: wherever a gap in scientific knowledge exists, there is evidence of divine design. In this way, ancient aliens serve as small g gods of the archaeological gaps, with the same shortcoming as the gods of the evolutionary gapsthe holes are already filled or soon will be, and then whence goes your theory? In science, for a new theory to be accepted, it is not enough to identify only the gaps in the prevailing theory (negative evidence). Proponents must provide positive evidence in favor of their new theory. And as skeptics like to say, before you say something is out of this world, first make sure that it is not in this world. Tellingly, in subsequent printings of Chariots of the Gods? the question mark was quietly dropped, and this disqualifier was added on the copyright page: This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places, and incidents are either the product of the author's imagination or are used fictitiously. Gap closed. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-beliefs-extraterres\
[FairfieldLife] Is the age of the touch typist ending?
Over this last week I've noticed something interesting. Sitting in cafes as I do, I've become aware that many young people are *much* faster at typing on their iPhones or other Smartphones than I am, just *screaming* along using two thumbs to tweet to their friends. But at work I've also been involved in interviewing a number of students from a local university that offers a Class A tech writing/information design degree to work as interns for IBM. They've all been sharp as tacks, and I would willingly work with all of them, but I noticed something while watching them perform the writing tests that my manager insisted on giving them. They've all been two finger typists. They're *fast* at it, but so far out of six applicants for these internships, not one of them was a touch typist. Then I noticed that one of my coworkers, who started her career at IBM as one of these interns, was also a two-finger typist. Again, she's fast at it, and is an excellent tech writer, but it got me to thinking. What with the proliferation of mobile devices and touchscreen pads, is touch typing on its way out? I consider myself fortunate that I taught myself to write this way, to the point that I can now type literally as fast as I think. But I wonder whether it will become a lost skill in the future. I guess it will all become a moot point when someone invents plug-in interfaces that just translate what we think *into* text on a screen. But when that happens, I'll probably still rely on a keyboard. It's my instrument, and playing on any other just wouldn't create the same music.
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. Richard Williams feels the need to bring up an incident between Barry and brother. Probably an incident Barry brought up in a context some time ago where it was pertinent to the discussion. My reaction to Richard bringing it up, obviously as a bait of some kind was, Forgive him Father, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing That is the reaction I have to much of what Richard posts. But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. I felt the timing of Jim's Amen was insensitive, and I said something. At some point in the discussion everyone's brother got brought into the fray in a rather hurtful way. No really sure how else to really parcel out the blame.
[FairfieldLife] It's all about Willy, was Feds must be looking for Willy
Bhairitu: Word is there are a bunch of military planes circling and flying low over Austin including those big white 747 like planes. Maybe so, but I'm in San Antonio today, about a mile from George Strait's ranch. LoL! 'Texas is country's No. 2 state for beer shipments' San Antonio Business Journal: http://tinyurl.com/lpu4ut5 http://tinyurl.com/lpu4ut5 How 'bout some pictures and video, Willy? Parked around the airstrip at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas, are more than a dozen massive C-5A Galaxy transport planes. There is no money to fly them, repair them or put pilots in the cockpits, but Congress rejected the Air Force's bid to retire them... http://www.jdnews.com/news/military/congress-slows-military-efforts-to-\ save-money-1.132520 'Congress slows military efforts to save money' Jacksonville News: http://tinyurl.com/mamu9ul http://tinyurl.com/mamu9ul
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the age of the touch typist ending?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Over this last week I've noticed something interesting. Sitting in cafes as I do, I've become aware that many young people are *much* faster at typing on their iPhones or other Smartphones than I am, just *screaming* along using two thumbs to tweet to their friends. But at work I've also been involved in interviewing a number of students from a local university that offers a Class A tech writing/information design degree to work as interns for IBM. They've all been sharp as tacks, and I would willingly work with all of them, but I noticed something while watching them perform the writing tests that my manager insisted on giving them. They've all been two finger typists. They're *fast* at it, but so far out of six applicants for these internships, not one of them was a touch typist. Then I noticed that one of my coworkers, who started her career at IBM as one of these interns, was also a two-finger typist. Again, she's fast at it, and is an excellent tech writer, but it got me to thinking. What with the proliferation of mobile devices and touchscreen pads, is touch typing on its way out? I consider myself fortunate that I taught myself to write this way, to the point that I can now type literally as fast as I think. But I wonder whether it will become a lost skill in the future. I guess it will all become a moot point when someone invents plug-in interfaces that just translate what we think *into* text on a screen. But when that happens, I'll probably still rely on a keyboard. It's my instrument, and playing on any other just wouldn't create the same music. When I was in my mid teens, my mother sent me to a high school evening course in touch typing. I am really glad that happened. I have known some very fast two-finger typists (on the typewriter - this was before personal computers), but there is a certain elegance to be able to use all your fingers to type. But I am really slow with smaller touch screen devices, but improving. The record speeds for touch typists are 176 words per minute for a manual mechanical typewriter, and 216 words per minute for an electric typewriter. This is for shorts bursts of typing. For sustained typing, the record is 150 words per minute using the Dvorak keyboard sustained for a 50-minute typing period. Probably slower with QWERTY keyboards.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chariots of the Gods of the Gaps?
Ha ha! That's beautiful Sal - and argument from ignorance perfectly describes Richard and Nabby's mentality. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 3:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Chariots of the Gods of the Gaps? How Beliefs in Extraterrestrials and Intelligent Design Are Similar Arguments of divine intervention—alien or otherwise—start with ignorance By Michael Shermer 1 inShare Share on Tumblr Image: Izhar Cohen According to the popular series Ancient Aliens, on H2 (a spinoff of the History channel), extraterrestrial intelligences visited Earth in the distant past, as evidenced by numerous archaeological artifacts whose scientific explanations prove unsatisfactory for alien enthusiasts. The series is the latest in a genre launched in 1968 by Erich von Däniken, whose book Chariots of the Gods? became an international best seller. It spawned several sequels, including Gods from Outer Space, The Gods Were Astronauts and, just in time for the December 21, 2012, doomsday palooza, Twilight of the Gods: The Mayan Calendar and the Return of the Extraterrestrials (the ones who failed to materialize). Ancient aliens theory is grounded in a logical fallacy called argumentum ad ignorantiam, or argument from ignorance. The illogical reasoning goes like this: if there is no satisfactory terrestrial explanation for, say, the Nazca lines of Peru, the Easter Island statues or the Egyptian pyramids, then the theory that they were built by aliens from outer space must be true. Whereas the talking heads of Ancient Aliens conjecture that ETs used acoustic stone levitation to build the pyramids, for example, archaeologists have discovered images demonstrating how tens of thousands of Egyptian workers employed wood sleds to move the stones along roads from the quarry to the site and then hauled them up gently sloping dirt ramps of an ever growing pyramid. Copper drills, chisels, saws and awls have been found in the rubble around the Great Pyramid of Giza, and the quarries are filled with half-finished blocks and broken tools that show how the Egyptians worked the stone. Conspicuously absent from the archaeological record are any artifacts more advanced than those known to be used in the third millennium B.C. Another alleged aliens artifact is a symbol found in the Egyptian Dendera Temple complex that vaguely resembles a modern lightbulb, with a squiggly filament inside and a plug at the bottom. Instead of featuring archaeologists who would explain that the symbol depicts a creation myth of the time (the plug is a lotus flower that represents life arising from the primordial waters, and the filament signifies a snake), ancient aliens fantasists speculate that the Egyptians were given the power of electricity by the gods. In this if this were true, what else would be true? line of inquiry, it is telling that no electrical wires, glass bulbs, metal filaments or electric power stations have ever been excavated. On the lid of the sarcophagus of the Mayan king Pakal in Mexico is a rocketlike image that Ancient Aliens consulting producer Giorgio Tsoukalos claims depicts the ruler in a spaceship: He is at an angle like modern-day astronauts upon liftoff. He is manipulating some controls. He has some type of breathing apparatus or some type of a telescope in front of his face. His feet are on some type of a pedal. And you have something that looks like an exhaust—with flames. According to Mayan archaeologists, however, this depiction shows King Pakal sitting atop the sun monster and descending into the underworld (where the sun goes at night) within a world tree—a classic mythological symbol, with branches stretched into the heavens and roots dug into the underworld. Ancient aliens arguments from ignorance resemble intelligent design God of the gaps arguments: wherever a gap in scientific knowledge exists, there is evidence of divine design. In this way, ancient aliens serve as small g gods of the archaeological gaps, with the same shortcoming as the gods of the evolutionary gaps—the holes are already filled or soon will be, and then whence goes your theory? In science, for a new theory to be accepted, it is not enough to identify only the gaps in the prevailing theory (negative evidence). Proponents must provide positive evidence in favor of their new theory. And as skeptics like to say, before you say something is out of this world, first make sure that it is not in this world. Tellingly, in subsequent printings of Chariots of the Gods? the question mark was quietly dropped, and this disqualifier was added on the copyright page: This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places, and incidents are either the product of the author's imagination or are used fictitiously. Gap closed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the age of the touch typist ending?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: Over this last week I've noticed something interesting. Sitting in cafes as I do, I've become aware that many young people are *much* faster at typing on their iPhones or other Smartphones than I am, just *screaming* along using two thumbs to tweet to their friends. But at work I've also been involved in interviewing a number of students from a local university that offers a Class A tech writing/information design degree to work as interns for IBM. They've all been sharp as tacks, and I would willingly work with all of them, but I noticed something while watching them perform the writing tests that my manager insisted on giving them. They've all been two finger typists. They're *fast* at it, but so far out of six applicants for these internships, not one of them was a touch typist. Then I noticed that one of my coworkers, who started her career at IBM as one of these interns, was also a two-finger typist. Again, she's fast at it, and is an excellent tech writer, but it got me to thinking. What with the proliferation of mobile devices and touchscreen pads, is touch typing on its way out? I consider myself fortunate that I taught myself to write this way, to the point that I can now type literally as fast as I think. But I wonder whether it will become a lost skill in the future. I guess it will all become a moot point when someone invents plug-in interfaces that just translate what we think *into* text on a screen. But when that happens, I'll probably still rely on a keyboard. It's my instrument, and playing on any other just wouldn't create the same music. When I was in my mid teens, my mother sent me to a high school evening course in touch typing. I am really glad that happened. I have known some very fast two-finger typists (on the typewriter - this was before personal computers), but there is a certain elegance to be able to use all your fingers to type. But I am really slow with smaller touch screen devices, but improving. The record speeds for touch typists are 176 words per minute for a manual mechanical typewriter, and 216 words per minute for an electric typewriter. This is for shorts bursts of typing. For sustained typing, the record is 150 words per minute using the Dvorak keyboard sustained for a 50-minute typing period. Probably slower with QWERTY keyboards. And I'm sure you all knew that the QWERTY board was designed so people wouldn't jam the keys on mechanical typewriters by placing commonly used letters apart from each other. Too late to change it now I guess. I seem to have invented my own type of speed typing using big fingers on letters and little ones on numbers and tabbing/deleting, and one thumb just for spacing, the other thumb doesn't do anything it seems. Works OK but definitely not as quick as you touch typists, wish I had learnt that for work would make life much easier in getting boring database work done faster.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
The level of your dishonesty is mind-boggling Barry. I'm glad to hear your public gloating of this incident with your brother. If at all I had any doubts about your narcissistic, sociopathic, sadistic traits this narration of your tale clinched it, this cold, callous insensitivity to your brother's suffering and using that incident to gloat and make yourself look good at his expense. On 7/3/13 10:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. I totally get it Doc and I agree. I found it interesting for all his shit slinging at you re: your brother and hence some farcical conclusions about some supposed homophobia on your part that when the opportunity comes up to play the big sympathy card Barry grabs at it with both hands. This is really funny, so in the absence of Judy Stein (who is probably laying low trying desperately not to use up her last few posts), I'll replay the events that Ann inaccurately summarizes, to provide some Steinian context. First, Richard Williams, in one of his characteristic troll moves, did a search on FFL and came up with a post about Barry striking someone. In a response to that, I not only admitted it, I clarified it, supply- ing the context that the person I had struck was my brother, and that I did so because he had already beaten up one 70-year-old man (our father), and was in the process of trying to do the same thing with another 70-year-old man (a neighbor), all while screaming You people don't even EXIST. Enlightened Jim Flanegin responded to this by invoking the acronym DNA, as he has explained here, to create the impression that am the way I am (whatever that is in his mind) is because of my crazy brother. At that point, I did not and still do not hold Jimbo respon- sible for using my dead brother to get me. Jimbo has trouble remembering what he said *the day before*, let alone something that might have been mentioned on FFL years ago. :-) But I felt I should respond, so I gave him a little taste of his own medicine, suggesting that if he could invoke DNA as a rationale for my actions, I could invoke the same DNA argument as a rationale for why he consistently makes gay slur insults against Curtis and myself on this forum, saying ...you're afraid your 'bad genes' will catch up to you. Jimbo responded by doubling down, and making excuses for this, *after he knew that my brother had committed suicide*. I don't see how he can object, since *he* supplied the very reason I invoked *his* brother in the first place, with ...if you want to get an asshole's attention, you must emulate them. Meanwhile, Judy Stein (who *prides herself* on never forgetting something that has been mentioned before on FFL, and thus who *knew* that I was talking about my brother who later committed suicide) piled on and said, putting imaginary words into my mouth, much like her imaginary boyfriend Robin used to do with Curtis: It seemed like the right thing to do at the time, but in retrospect it was very wrong. In fact, I needed that punch a lot more than my brother did. I was the one who was out of control. And remember, Judy *cannot* invoke the I didn't know I was saying he hit his dead brother because *he* was the one out of control because she has positioned herself so many times as someone who *never forgets anything said here on FFL*. So she clearly knew what she was doing. All of this is why, when Share actually said something nice about my brother, I said, I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their 'get Barry' vendettas. NONE of the three of them can dispute this. They all *had* used my dead brother just to get Barry. And at least two of them (Jim, after he knew what had become of him, and Judy, all along) did so knowingly. Richard doesn't post *anything* knowingly, so I cut him a little slack. Please note that in my sentence above I did not include Ann. She has since made statements that force me to revise that sentence, and include her, too. None of this will affect them in any way; I write it for the bystanders and the lurkers, to help them evaluate what will undoubtedly turn into a veritable shitstorm of get Barry posts from all four of them over the next week. Unlike the four of them, I am not trying to tell you what to think. I'm merely presenting some history about all of this, and allowing you to come to your *own* conclusions. WATCH over the next four days, and see whether these four respect you enough to do the same.
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Special for the Crop Circle Crew
noozguru, my favorite from dog owners: Fido won't bite. My reply: you don't know that 100% for sure! It's an animal for God's sake! And I'm a stranger! Now leash Fido before the impossible happens! What do you have a copyright for? But what causes landlords to increase rents? By which I'm asking, what in your opinion is the first domino to fall in the inflation process? I didn't realize that SF has such a nudity thing going. Hmmm, must be in jyotish chart of SF (-: Meanwhile it's sunny but breezy in FF and cooling off nicely at night. No nudists yet. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Special for the Crop Circle Crew On 07/02/2013 02:21 PM, Share Long wrote: noozgururoo, happy woowoo to woo too (-: Pondering what is scarier: being spied on by NSA or not being spied on?! About those private jets: I've read that airplane fuel is the most polluting item on the planet. We should tax the bejeesus out of them! Yup, plus a tax on stock transactions too. They've snowed the Tea Baggers into believing that they are the jobs creators and enlisted them as their faithful army. I really pissed some people on Patch by referring to them as Tea Baggers. Good, they deserve it. Don't get me started on people who don't follow leash laws! In the game preserve on Sunday there was a woman with two dogs off leash and they were swimming in the strait. $600 in tickets there but the park police were no where to be seen. I almost took a video of it to post on my YouTube channel. As I've said before dogs are banned in the game preserve and it's not like they don't have signs saying so. Question about another post: are bun bouncers allowed in the same union with pizza tossers? Ask Michael. You wrote: If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. Share asks: what's happening with that? Nope. But then I also mentioned that many Bay Area workers who usually commute might have taken the week off. And there was more of a breeze than anticipated too. And a much stronger one today so probably NOT a Spare the Air Day. There were whitecaps on the strait. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Special for the Crop Circle Crew Salyvin's neighbors have a show for Nabby and the gang with a Planet X interview with John Lear and the Moon cities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWyTXWS885U Happy woo-woo!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the age of the touch typist ending?
The perfection of voice-to-text technologies, coupled with the inevitable acceptance of simplified English (like u, ur, etc.) and anticipatory word selection (from a limited corporate-approved dictionary) may eliminate even the two-finger technique and change what acceptable written text looks and sounds like. Further, topic based writing requirements using data defining techniques (XML)to satisfy the need to write once and display everywhere (phone, terminal, help screens, web) will create completely uniform output eliminating the voice of the writer. Eventually meta-writing techniques, which enable systems to become self documenting, will emerge. Here's what it may look like :-) Press zee red boottun tu stert zee system. Veeet fur system ineetielizeshun und zeen oopee zee inpoot cufer. http://www.tuco.de/home/jschef.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the age of the touch typist ending?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@... wrote: The perfection of voice-to-text technologies, coupled with the inevitable acceptance of simplified English (like u, ur, etc.) and anticipatory word selection (from a limited corporate-approved dictionary) may eliminate even the two-finger technique and change what acceptable written text looks and sounds like. Further, topic based writing requirements using data defining techniques (XML)to satisfy the need to write once and display everywhere (phone, terminal, help screens, web) will create completely uniform output eliminating the voice of the writer. Eventually meta-writing techniques, which enable systems to become self documenting, will emerge. Here's what it may look like :-) Press zee red boottun tu stert zee system. Veeet fur system ineetielizeshun und zeen oopee zee inpoot cufer. http://www.tuco.de/home/jschef.htm I agree with *some* of what you say, but doubt seriously that tweetspeak will become the norm. It is *already* one of potential black marks held against people in the corporate world, and the ability to write traditional English is still valued. Executives have actually seen their careers plateau and be barred from further pro- motions because of their inability to write clear English, relying instead on the gibberish churned out by engines such as this. So although what you suggest may happen in time, I don't expect that time to come anytime soon. As for speech-to-text systems becoming more prev- alent, that is a given. What they translate *into* is another question. XML is also a given, in business/software contexts. Almost everything we write at IBM is in XML. As for corporate-approved dictionaries, I have to live every day with a piece of software called Acrolinx, which scans every XML document I write and *forces* it to comply with the IBM Style Guide. This is often a hilarious interaction, because after all it's a piece of software, and often either makes funny mistakes, or tries to force us to actually violate English grammar and spelling to comply with what it thinks are the right standards. I understand the need for it -- they're a global corporation employing literally thousands of tech writers, and they have to try to find a way to make their output sound as if it had all come from the same corporate voice. But it does provide many moments of amusement as it tries -- and fails -- to cover all possible situations with a very limited vocabulary and rule set. The cost of translation is also a factor in this push towards standardized language. The less variation there is in the writing, the easier (and thus cheaper) the cost of translating that writing into 40 different languages.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Egyptian Military Coup Under Way
I'm so envious of the Egyptians. Their military looks out for them. From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Egyptian Military Coup Under Way The reign of Mohammed Morsi is over. The next question is: who will take over? http://news.yahoo.com/egypts-mursi-defies-army-plots-future-without-him-010721364.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting third party view of the Robin thang
Yes Lurk, Dr. Jack Cass could use some mental floss. Preferable mint flavored. Sharing with Angry Arrogant Ann would be very compassionate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of hands for that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. Who does that?? Only an idiot would operate that way, or someone so bent on denigrating someone, that they fail to see their own transparency (in other words, an idiot). Personally, I rate your post, CI, for Completely Impotent. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I pass along here something sent to me by a lurker who preferred to have someone else post it so as not to become a target for the Robin supporters. It is an excerpt from a book called Sacred Schisms: How Religions Divide, edited by James R. Lewis and Sarah M. Lewis. I cannot confess to having done all my Steinian Due Diligence on the editors, but a quick glance at their other works seems to indicate that they are scholars with an interest in religions, as opposed to someone with an axe to grind. I pass it along because it seems to be something we don't get much of around here, a view of the whole Robin phenomenon presented without emotion or allegiance to one side of the story or another. It seems to present some contradictions to claims here about how much Robin continued to revere Maharishi and his teachings during his 15 minutes of fame. The Amazon link to their book is the first link below, and a Google Reader Look Inside This Book is provided at the second (and third) links. Google Reader does not seem to allow cut-and-paste, so I cannot duplicate it here. The link pointed for me to page 292, but the information about Robin and his relationship with Maharishi starts at the bottom of page 289. It is missing page 294 for some reason. http://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Schisms-How-Religions-Divide/dp/0521881471 http://books.google.com/books?id=2ama0nYRlB8Cpg=PA292lpg=PA292dq=%22R\ \ obin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8M\ \ hl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22R\ \ obin%20Carlsen%22f=false Robin+Carlsen%22source=blots=T2I4atqqNlsig=eRRuklROm7gPtmTdS7FEHPvCU8\ \ Mhl=ensa=Xei=GODTUc2-B9P20gXaioDIAwved=0CGUQ6AEwCDge#v=onepageq=%22\ \ Robin%20Carlsen%22f=false http://tinyurl.com/nwpvnuc
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Special for the Crop Circle Crew
On 07/03/2013 01:30 PM, Share Long wrote: noozguru, my favorite from dog owners: Fido won't bite. My reply: you don't know that 100% for sure! It's an animal for God's sake! And I'm a stranger! Now leash Fido before the impossible happens! My favorite from dog owners walking in the game preserve: (annoyingly) Thank you! Or in other words: yeh, I know that but I don't care we just want to walk our dog here. That is until the day the park police drive through and write them a ticket. One girl said, we walk our dogs here all the time and they never have written a ticket. Me: that's the park rangers. They have no authority to write tickets and drive the green pickups. The park police drive a black and white. Or from an older women with a pit bull that was barking at me: oh he's harmless. Yeh right. What do you have a copyright for? Music, software, videos. I have a few tunes that were actually registered with the Library of Congress when that is what you needed to do for a copyright. Now you just put a copyright notice on the work which I also don't think is necessary anymore either though most people do. I made a few of my videos Creative Commons on YouTube so folks could use the video or music if they wanted. But what causes landlords to increase rents? By which I'm asking, what in your opinion is the first domino to fall in the inflation process? Mostly greed or poor business management. The domino is the landlord next door raising his rent. Someone wrote a beautiful little article about inflation that I wish I had saved or book marked. I often make snide remarks when I notice that my dentist or restaurant has raised prices. I didn't realize that SF has such a nudity thing going. Hmmm, must be in jyotish chart of SF (-: Meanwhile it's sunny but breezy in FF and cooling off nicely at night. No nudists yet. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] A Special for the Crop Circle Crew On 07/02/2013 02:21 PM, Share Long wrote: noozgururoo, happy woowoo to woo too (-: Pondering what is scarier: being spied on by NSA or not being spied on?! About those private jets: I've read that airplane fuel is the most polluting item on the planet. We should tax the bejeesus out of them! Yup, plus a tax on stock transactions too. They've snowed the Tea Baggers into believing that they are the jobs creators and enlisted them as their faithful army. I really pissed some people on Patch by referring to them as Tea Baggers. Good, they deserve it. Don't get me started on people who don't follow leash laws! In the game preserve on Sunday there was a woman with two dogs off leash and they were swimming in the strait. $600 in tickets there but the park police were no where to be seen. I almost took a video of it to post on my YouTube channel. As I've said before dogs are banned in the game preserve and it's not like they don't have signs saying so. Question about another post: are bun bouncers allowed in the same union with pizza tossers? Ask Michael. You wrote: If the BART workers strike on Monday then the Bay Area might look like Mumbai by the end of day. Share asks: what's happening with that? Nope. But then I also mentioned that many Bay Area workers who usually commute might have taken the week off. And there was more of a breeze than anticipated too. And a much stronger one today so probably NOT a Spare the Air Day. There were whitecaps on the strait. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] A Special for the Crop Circle Crew Salyvin's neighbors have a show for Nabby and the gang with a Planet X interview with John Lear and the Moon cities. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWyTXWS885U Happy woo-woo!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Egyptian Military Coup Under Way
Happy 4th of July, Egypt! From: John jr_...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 11:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Egyptian Military Coup Under Way The reign of Mohammed Morsi is over. The next question is: who will take over? http://news.yahoo.com/egypts-mursi-defies-army-plots-future-without-him-010721364.html
[FairfieldLife] Things That Are Excellent, v1.0
#1 Kessel's Conoco Today I drove my semi-retired old pickup truck into town to pick up some chicken wire and run some errands. As I was heading out west on Burlington Ave, I hit a red light, and when I mashed my foot on the brakes, the pedal went to the floor, and I almost didn't get the truck stopped. So, I made my way to TSC, got my chicken wire, and drove back to town, using the manual transmission as a brake. I pulled into Kessel's Conoco on the corner of Burlington and 4th, explained to Steve what had just happened, and he put the guys right on it. I walked over to Top of the Rock Grille, had a bacon chicken wrap, and walked back to Kessel's. A half hour later, my truck was fixed. Brake line had rusted out; not surprising on a 1996 truck that has seen a lot of road salt. I always make a point of not talking politics with Steve because he's pretty hardcore right wing, but he's totally honest, and he does good work. #2 Stretch-Tite plastic food wrap Wrap'N'Snap dispenser I buy most of my grass-fed meat up in Iowa City at the Co-Op, and I wrap each piece in plastic wrap for the freezer. After years of wrestling with the damn Saran Wrap boxes, I Googled around for the best plastic wrap and found a plastic wrap and dispenser system that actually works: Stretch-Tite http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F0RBLA/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8psc=1 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ULEJBM/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01?ie=UTF8psc=1 #3 Honda EU2000i Inverter Generator For a while now, I've been wanting a decent backup power system for the house. I had tried putting a high capacity alternator in the truck and running a 2000 watt inverter, but even with the engine revved up, the inverter would pull the truck's voltage way down and wear out the battery. I really didn't want yet another internal combustion engine to maintain, so I pondered how I could use the tractor's PTO (power take-off, i.e., engine-driven shaft out the back for powering implements) to drive a generator. There are PTO generators and there are hydraulic generators that I could drive with a PTO hydraulic pump, but the cost would be several thousand dollars, and the tractor would have to be revved up and burning a lot of fuel. I talked to Tom Traynor about it, and he told me about the little Honda inverter generator that his boating friends all rave about. Most gensets have an alternator directly driven by the engine, and the engine has to run continuously at 1800 or 3600 RPM, regardless of load, in order to make 60Hz AC. In an inverter generator, the electronic inverter makes the 60HZ, and the engine revs up only enough to meet the demand for power. As a result, a little inverter generator can run all day on a quart of gas, whereas a conventional genset could burn that much gas every hour. In researching the little Honda online, I found that it is apparently the most popular generator in the history of creation. From the factory, with no gas or oil in it, the EU2000i weighs 47 pounds; mere mortals can lift and carry it with one hand. Power output is 2000 watts peak, 1600 watts continuous. Basically, anything you'd ever plug into a household outlet can run off it. Price: $1000 Recently, I put it in the back of the truck and used it to power my electric chainsaw so I could cut down some dead trees. When I'd first fire up the chainsaw, it would start and then speed up as the engine reved up and the voltage increased; stop the saw, and the engine would go back to an idle. And, it's remarkably quiet, even when the engine is revved up. There is simply nothing to stop me from falling passionately in love with it. Recently, the usual right wing talking heads were arguing the usual slippery slope nonsense with respect to same sex marriage, and I was all Fuck that marrying a dog or cat bullshit... I wanna marry my Honda EU200i inverter generator! It's a whole new love that dare not speak its name, and I am out of the closet, baybee!
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Here's a tiny violin and a hanky. Perhaps you want to think as deeply about wantonly hurting others, instead of once again feeling sorry for yourself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: The level of your dishonesty is mind-boggling Barry. I'm glad to hear your public gloating of this incident with your brother. If at all I had any doubts about your narcissistic, sociopathic, sadistic traits this narration of your tale clinched it, this cold, callous insensitivity to your brother's suffering and using that incident to gloat and make yourself look good at his expense. On 7/3/13 10:47 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: My comments about Barry sharing the same DNA as his crazy brother were not meant to be all that funny, just a pointer to his unstable and antisocial tendencies, and a possible reason for same. I totally get it Doc and I agree. I found it interesting for all his shit slinging at you re: your brother and hence some farcical conclusions about some supposed homophobia on your part that when the opportunity comes up to play the big sympathy card Barry grabs at it with both hands. This is really funny, so in the absence of Judy Stein (who is probably laying low trying desperately not to use up her last few posts), I'll replay the events that Ann inaccurately summarizes, to provide some Steinian context. First, Richard Williams, in one of his characteristic troll moves, did a search on FFL and came up with a post about Barry striking someone. In a response to that, I not only admitted it, I clarified it, supply- ing the context that the person I had struck was my brother, and that I did so because he had already beaten up one 70-year-old man (our father), and was in the process of trying to do the same thing with another 70-year-old man (a neighbor), all while screaming You people don't even EXIST. Enlightened Jim Flanegin responded to this by invoking the acronym DNA, as he has explained here, to create the impression that am the way I am (whatever that is in his mind) is because of my crazy brother. At that point, I did not and still do not hold Jimbo respon- sible for using my dead brother to get me. Jimbo has trouble remembering what he said *the day before*, let alone something that might have been mentioned on FFL years ago. :-) But I felt I should respond, so I gave him a little taste of his own medicine, suggesting that if he could invoke DNA as a rationale for my actions, I could invoke the same DNA argument as a rationale for why he consistently makes gay slur insults against Curtis and myself on this forum, saying ...you're afraid your 'bad genes' will catch up to you. Jimbo responded by doubling down, and making excuses for this, *after he knew that my brother had committed suicide*. I don't see how he can object, since *he* supplied the very reason I invoked *his* brother in the first place, with ...if you want to get an asshole's attention, you must emulate them. Meanwhile, Judy Stein (who *prides herself* on never forgetting something that has been mentioned before on FFL, and thus who *knew* that I was talking about my brother who later committed suicide) piled on and said, putting imaginary words into my mouth, much like her imaginary boyfriend Robin used to do with Curtis: It seemed like the right thing to do at the time, but in retrospect it was very wrong. In fact, I needed that punch a lot more than my brother did. I was the one who was out of control. And remember, Judy *cannot* invoke the I didn't know I was saying he hit his dead brother because *he* was the one out of control because she has positioned herself so many times as someone who *never forgets anything said here on FFL*. So she clearly knew what she was doing. All of this is why, when Share actually said something nice about my brother, I said, I don't want to talk about him here, because Judy and Richard and Jim will just find some way to use anything said the way they already have...as just another tactic in their 'get Barry' vendettas. NONE of the three of them can dispute this. They all *had* used my dead brother just to get Barry. And at least two of them (Jim, after he knew what had become of him, and Judy, all along) did so knowingly. Richard doesn't post *anything* knowingly, so I cut him a little slack. Please note that in my sentence above I did not include Ann. She has since made statements that force me to revise that sentence, and include her, too. None of this will affect them in any way; I write it for the bystanders and
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. Completely off the mark, Steve. I was merely trying to clear the air. I am curious why you keep harping on this boundary crossing of mine. I cannot help but ask you, now that Barry has dragged the general discourse of this place into the sewer, why didn't you smell something sooner? I say something, everyone wakes up, and says shit like, Yeah we have become used to the pervasive stench of Barry's negativity, but you emulating it, Jim, is unacceptable!. Talk about shooting the messenger. That's fucked up, Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. Richard Williams feels the need to bring up an incident between Barry and brother. Probably an incident Barry brought up in a context some time ago where it was pertinent to the discussion. My reaction to Richard bringing it up, obviously as a bait of some kind was, Forgive him Father, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing That is the reaction I have to much of what Richard posts. But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. I felt the timing of Jim's Amen was insensitive, and I said something. At some point in the discussion everyone's brother got brought into the fray in a rather hurtful way. No really sure how else to really parcel out the blame.
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
FYI, if you haven't noticed, Barry's posts have returned to a semblance of civility. Mission accomplished, and yes, I accept your thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. Completely off the mark, Steve. I was merely trying to clear the air. I am curious why you keep harping on this boundary crossing of mine. I cannot help but ask you, now that Barry has dragged the general discourse of this place into the sewer, why didn't you smell something sooner? I say something, everyone wakes up, and says shit like, Yeah we have become used to the pervasive stench of Barry's negativity, but you emulating it, Jim, is unacceptable!. Talk about shooting the messenger. That's fucked up, Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. Richard Williams feels the need to bring up an incident between Barry and brother. Probably an incident Barry brought up in a context some time ago where it was pertinent to the discussion. My reaction to Richard bringing it up, obviously as a bait of some kind was, Forgive him Father, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing That is the reaction I have to much of what Richard posts. But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. I felt the timing of Jim's Amen was insensitive, and I said something. At some point in the discussion everyone's brother got brought into the fray in a rather hurtful way. No really sure how else to really parcel out the blame.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
mmm..not really - these are Barry's usual tactics. When he is outrageously dishonest he makes several unrelated posts to create an illusion that he's the actual Judy, the truthful, disinterested one. That he's not the one who's dishonest, he's not the one who's sociopathic, he's not the one who's narcissistic, he's not the one who's arguing. Case in point this egregiously, outrageously dishonest post (it's title that is) - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/348938. Of course - very hilarious and sickening at the same time. On 7/3/13 3:25 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: FYI, if you haven't noticed, Barry's posts have returned to a semblance of civility. Mission accomplished, and yes, I accept your thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. Completely off the mark, Steve. I was merely trying to clear the air. I am curious why you keep harping on this boundary crossing of mine. I cannot help but ask you, now that Barry has dragged the general discourse of this place into the sewer, why didn't you smell something sooner? I say something, everyone wakes up, and says shit like, Yeah we have become used to the pervasive stench of Barry's negativity, but you emulating it, Jim, is unacceptable!. Talk about shooting the messenger. That's fucked up, Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. Richard Williams feels the need to bring up an incident between Barry and brother. Probably an incident Barry brought up in a context some time ago where it was pertinent to the discussion. My reaction to Richard bringing it up, obviously as a bait of some kind was, Forgive him Father, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing That is the reaction I have to much of what Richard posts. But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. I felt the timing of Jim's Amen was insensitive, and I said something. At some point in the discussion everyone's brother got brought into the fray in a rather hurtful way. No really sure how else to really parcel out the blame.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What some are doing while you're arguing on FFL...
Very clever Barry. Sure to fool most :-) You are the one that's obsessively arguing here for the last 2 weeks - obsessive, sadistic, narcissistic and sociopathic. These are Barry's usual tactics. When he is outrageously dishonest he makes several unrelated posts to create an illusion that he's the actual Judy, the truthful, disinterested one. That he's not the one who's dishonest, he's not the one who's sociopathic, he's not the one who's narcissistic, he's not the one who's arguing. On 7/3/13 11:33 AM, turquoiseb wrote: ...and busy trying to get the people you don't like... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/02/kim-jung-gi_n_3535442.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
I'm sorry Jim, I just don't follow you. I mean your dislike of Barry is either 8 out of 10 or 10 out of 10. I usually don't comment until it gets above 8 out of 10. Sort of like Ravi, (and Judy for that matter), who seem astounded at the lows to which Barry can touch each week on a daily basis. I wonder those feelings you (all) harbor would look like on an astral basis. I don't think it would be pretty. And yes, you have a funny way of clearing the air. I mean this latest tirade all began from a third party's observation of some of schisms in the TMO, including the Robin episode. Why that caused such severe reaction, I don't know. And yes, it is called shooting the messenger. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. Completely off the mark, Steve. I was merely trying to clear the air. I am curious why you keep harping on this boundary crossing of mine. I cannot help but ask you, now that Barry has dragged the general discourse of this place into the sewer, why didn't you smell something sooner? I say something, everyone wakes up, and says shit like, Yeah we have become used to the pervasive stench of Barry's negativity, but you emulating it, Jim, is unacceptable!. Talk about shooting the messenger. That's fucked up, Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. Richard Williams feels the need to bring up an incident between Barry and brother. Probably an incident Barry brought up in a context some time ago where it was pertinent to the discussion. My reaction to Richard bringing it up, obviously as a bait of some kind was, Forgive him Father, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing That is the reaction I have to much of what Richard posts. But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. I felt the timing of Jim's Amen was insensitive, and I said something. At some point in the discussion everyone's brother got brought into the fray in a rather hurtful way. No really sure how else to really parcel out the blame.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Things That Are Excellent, v1.0
#4 ATT (yeah, I know...) I was chopping a deep stump out of my yard yesterday, for the second day in a row, pain in the ass, 100 plus degrees outside, so I raised my pick-ax, and promptly ripped my DSL line off the side of the house! (insert *colorful* language) I tried reconnecting stuff, but couldn't get it to sync. So I Made The Call. After chatting a bit, I mentioned that I used to have wire protection, which covers this, but cancelled it. Let me see what I can do - She was in a customer svc. center in Arkansas. I had a tech to my house in two hours, free of charge, fixed in fifteen minutes. It was awesome - tipped him twenty bucks. Thanks for the tip on the generator - been looking for one. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: #1 Kessel's Conoco Today I drove my semi-retired old pickup truck into town to pick up some chicken wire and run some errands. As I was heading out west on Burlington Ave, I hit a red light, and when I mashed my foot on the brakes, the pedal went to the floor, and I almost didn't get the truck stopped. So, I made my way to TSC, got my chicken wire, and drove back to town, using the manual transmission as a brake. I pulled into Kessel's Conoco on the corner of Burlington and 4th, explained to Steve what had just happened, and he put the guys right on it. I walked over to Top of the Rock Grille, had a bacon chicken wrap, and walked back to Kessel's. A half hour later, my truck was fixed. Brake line had rusted out; not surprising on a 1996 truck that has seen a lot of road salt. I always make a point of not talking politics with Steve because he's pretty hardcore right wing, but he's totally honest, and he does good work. #2 Stretch-Tite plastic food wrap Wrap'N'Snap dispenser I buy most of my grass-fed meat up in Iowa City at the Co-Op, and I wrap each piece in plastic wrap for the freezer. After years of wrestling with the damn Saran Wrap boxes, I Googled around for the best plastic wrap and found a plastic wrap and dispenser system that actually works: Stretch-Tite http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001F0RBLA/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8psc=1 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003ULEJBM/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i01?ie=UTF8psc=1 #3 Honda EU2000i Inverter Generator For a while now, I've been wanting a decent backup power system for the house. I had tried putting a high capacity alternator in the truck and running a 2000 watt inverter, but even with the engine revved up, the inverter would pull the truck's voltage way down and wear out the battery. I really didn't want yet another internal combustion engine to maintain, so I pondered how I could use the tractor's PTO (power take-off, i.e., engine-driven shaft out the back for powering implements) to drive a generator. There are PTO generators and there are hydraulic generators that I could drive with a PTO hydraulic pump, but the cost would be several thousand dollars, and the tractor would have to be revved up and burning a lot of fuel. I talked to Tom Traynor about it, and he told me about the little Honda inverter generator that his boating friends all rave about. Most gensets have an alternator directly driven by the engine, and the engine has to run continuously at 1800 or 3600 RPM, regardless of load, in order to make 60Hz AC. In an inverter generator, the electronic inverter makes the 60HZ, and the engine revs up only enough to meet the demand for power. As a result, a little inverter generator can run all day on a quart of gas, whereas a conventional genset could burn that much gas every hour. In researching the little Honda online, I found that it is apparently the most popular generator in the history of creation. From the factory, with no gas or oil in it, the EU2000i weighs 47 pounds; mere mortals can lift and carry it with one hand. Power output is 2000 watts peak, 1600 watts continuous. Basically, anything you'd ever plug into a household outlet can run off it. Price: $1000 Recently, I put it in the back of the truck and used it to power my electric chainsaw so I could cut down some dead trees. When I'd first fire up the chainsaw, it would start and then speed up as the engine reved up and the voltage increased; stop the saw, and the engine would go back to an idle. And, it's remarkably quiet, even when the engine is revved up. There is simply nothing to stop me from falling passionately in love with it. Recently, the usual right wing talking heads were arguing the usual slippery slope nonsense with respect to same sex marriage, and I was all Fuck that marrying a dog or cat bullshit... I wanna marry my Honda EU200i inverter generator! It's a whole new love that dare not speak its name, and I am out of the closet, baybee!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Yay Stevie - the charitable, blessed wisdom of the Heartland Retard !!! I would say Barry is expressing a difference of opinion, he has a few blind spots - am I right? He is working on a cutting-edge project for a cutting-edge company - ergo happiest man, am I right? Anything else I missed Stevie baby? On 7/3/13 3:41 PM, seventhray27 wrote: I'm sorry Jim, I just don't follow you. I mean your dislike of Barry is either 8 out of 10 or 10 out of 10. I usually don't comment until it gets above 8 out of 10. Sort of like Ravi, (and Judy for that matter), who seem astounded at the lows to which Barry can touch each week on a daily basis. I wonder those feelings you (all) harbor would look like on an astral basis. I don't think it would be pretty. And yes, you have a funny way of clearing the air. I mean this latest tirade all began from a third party's observation of some of schisms in the TMO, including the Robin episode. Why that caused such severe reaction, I don't know. And yes, it*is *called shooting the messenger. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. Completely off the mark, Steve. I was merely trying to clear the air. I am curious why you keep harping on this boundary crossing of mine. I cannot help but ask you, now that Barry has dragged the general discourse of this place into the sewer, why didn't you smell something sooner? I say something, everyone wakes up, and says shit like, Yeah we have become used to the pervasive stench of Barry's negativity, but you emulating it, Jim, is unacceptable!. Talk about shooting the messenger. That's fucked up, Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. Richard Williams feels the need to bring up an incident between Barry and brother. Probably an incident Barry brought up in a context some time ago where it was pertinent to the discussion. My reaction to Richard bringing it up, obviously as a bait of some kind was, Forgive him Father, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing That is the reaction I have to much of what Richard posts. But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. I felt the timing of Jim's Amen was insensitive, and I said something. At some point in the discussion everyone's brother got brought into the fray in a rather hurtful way. No really sure how else to really parcel out the blame.
[FairfieldLife] Re: compassion
Its cool, Steve. No longer worth pursuing, on my end. I will, however, continue to treat Barry as if he is eternal and universal, no matter what that may look like to you, or others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: I'm sorry Jim, I just don't follow you. I mean your dislike of Barry is either 8 out of 10 or 10 out of 10. I usually don't comment until it gets above 8 out of 10. Sort of like Ravi, (and Judy for that matter), who seem astounded at the lows to which Barry can touch each week on a daily basis. I wonder those feelings you (all) harbor would look like on an astral basis. I don't think it would be pretty. And yes, you have a funny way of clearing the air. I mean this latest tirade all began from a third party's observation of some of schisms in the TMO, including the Robin episode. Why that caused such severe reaction, I don't know. And yes, it is called shooting the messenger. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. Completely off the mark, Steve. I was merely trying to clear the air. I am curious why you keep harping on this boundary crossing of mine. I cannot help but ask you, now that Barry has dragged the general discourse of this place into the sewer, why didn't you smell something sooner? I say something, everyone wakes up, and says shit like, Yeah we have become used to the pervasive stench of Barry's negativity, but you emulating it, Jim, is unacceptable!. Talk about shooting the messenger. That's fucked up, Steve. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: Get the timeline and the events here straight Steve. Go back and have a look. Read what Barry has had to say about Jim and Jim's brother now and many posts ago and then draw some reasonable conclusions. Figure out which bandwagon you want to leap on before you do so. Richard Williams feels the need to bring up an incident between Barry and brother. Probably an incident Barry brought up in a context some time ago where it was pertinent to the discussion. My reaction to Richard bringing it up, obviously as a bait of some kind was, Forgive him Father, he doesn't know what the hell he is doing That is the reaction I have to much of what Richard posts. But Jim, feeling a little more peeved than usual at Barry about something, felt the need to chime in with an Amen. I felt the timing of Jim's Amen was insensitive, and I said something. At some point in the discussion everyone's brother got brought into the fray in a rather hurtful way. No really sure how else to really parcel out the blame.
