Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Hey Doc - thank you, yes indeed a natural fascination/attraction for other cultures, there's healthy and unhealthy and you are right I got to see lot of unhealthy aping of Hindu customs around Amma. Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually special just because you are Indian - lol No - dear God no. Because all my life, pre-2009 I have acted normal, extremely introverted except at work and focused on my career and family. Post-2009 it's a different story - it's either a loving, playful, sincere, supportive act with friends and totally outrageous, crazy, witty, silly - hell bent on mocking, confusing, perplexing people and pushing their buttons with my act. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Ooops - Conversely, met a lot of brown and black people... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Its a weird fucking thing - I have met a lot of white people in the US who have some desire at some point, to be black or brown, ethnic, or, exotic. Your descriptions of all the, my precious little brown sister stuff, around Amma, reminds me of it. Conversely, met a lot of brown and people that want to be whiter. I grew up as a minority white kid, but I also tanned - lol, and spoke the languages of the countries where I lived. Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually special just because you are Indian - lol? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective, spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby leaves the person invulnerable to reality. So an important premise of the definition is that each of us human beings are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced by reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like to objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a mysterious, dynamic, organic entity) Once an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief, hopelessly deceived and deluded. Amma - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old superstitious beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious, dynamic, organic entity. Here Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and uneducated fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also enacted these myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must have played along as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore, their beliefs. Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity for a long time. Now you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an incredulous narrative of 18th century woo-woo. And on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further and elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards - even a doctorate follows. Westerners burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by this existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves from reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and complexities were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale who a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing Saint. It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long - the majority anyway. So will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a mere instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma? Amma - a mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned charlatan? Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Oh dear Obba - this is really hilarious, especially the part about put me on your list for next lifetime Bob?. Bob definitely knows how to charm women - he is a serious threat to me here !!! And what was the deal with that Bhagwad Geeta, chapter 7 Bankruptcy proceedings - WTF? totally cracked me up. Carry on dear. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:13 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Oh geez Ann, what'd ya hafta do that for? Cozy us all down to not being liked by a possible somebody or two. Since you DID this, I must confess, right here and now, because I want to, not because I have to that my Love for the Turq has truly been pretend. I thought since everyone is confessing and I don't want to hear others had to go to the doctor and get on stronger meds, or if I caused anyone to smoke or bate vigorously, or vomit, to each his own, and you know already, the Turq stayed clear of FFL today on account of sticking his head in a brothel near Paris, because Mr. Bob Price gave him a good whippin yesterday. Yes he did. There is no one I do not like on this FFL board. Only stimulating challenge is how I see it. My lie was with the Turq though. He is a repulsive old man, even though an older man can be highly attractive to me, the Turq is what they refer to as, tout lavé. I may think different if he was to repent, but as Mr. Bob Price put it, well, I cannot even attempt to explain anything he said, it was just absolutely beautiful and majestic. A true King, and his consort, Mrs. Price. Put me on your list for next life time, Bob? ;) Just saying that is enough to make the Turq shrivel and shrink like a man in cold bath water. Turq, only the really good looking men want me, so no need to attempt to demean me as you do not fit in that category, no matter how many cute movie stars you fall in love with while only viewing them on your computer or at the movie house. Bitch. There. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: It's okay Rory. No one needs to do what Barry does so well himself (and it isn't that he isevil) but what he reveals about himself needs no verification, encouragement or validation by others. He is the author, the creator of his own persona; it doesn't require any action from anyone else to allow this to show itself. I don't think anyone here is against anyone else because the love Barry or think he's a great writer or is God's gift to travelogue posts. We are all going to see people differently and they are going to either appeal to us or not appeal to us. There are so many personalities here and I am not sure there is one single person that everyone unanimously likes - except Alex! Ha! True enough, Ann. I just forgot for a bit what it was like here :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
No dear - this guy needs to chill with some Irani chai (tea), Hyderabadi style http://youtu.be/fj43k9DH6UE On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adyjwFgXRNY Chill, dude. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: (snip) That's were you got your timeline wrong, and you prove another time, that you always disguise facts, by simply creating a diversion. Distract, point in a different direction to create a smokescreen, and ultimately make your audience tired. And it#s simply lame of you to not be able to admit obvious mistakes. No, no, toots, this was your mistake. It isn't a diversion or a disguising of fact or a distraction or a smokescreen to explain to you where you went wrong--quite the opposite, in fact. I'm so sorry it tires you out to have to deal with your errors, but them's the breaks. It should have been obvious when I referred to Robin's courteous response which post I had in mind LOL only in your mind. I'm not into mind-reading, Oh, you most certainly are. You're *heavily* into it. Where? When? Take your time if you need to think something up.. like yourself. If you are referring to something, why don't you just spell it out, which post you mean, so that we know, what you are talking about. As I already said, if you weren't sure what post I was referring to, *you could have asked*. But you didn't, you just made a quick assumption without thinking because you were so eager to get me. I could have asked, had I known you had some specific posts in mind, not related at all to the posts we were actually discussing. To do this is called distraction. (since that was the *only* courteous response he addressed to you before he left), I don't know what you mean by 'courteous'. that's totally your value system, you live in a world, a bubble of your own. Gettin' a little tired, are ya? Dictionaries are good if you don't know what a word means. And most cultures value courtesy. It isn't some crazy American idea, or crazy FFL idea, or crazy Judy idea. It's pretty much universal. Universal in your mind only. Judy, to be honest with you, this is your main problem: That you take your value system, your feelings about people and their reactions for granted, and never question your own impression. Very often, you are simply wrong. but you were so anxious to get me that you didn't pay any attention to what I'd said and got the whole thing bassackwards (not for the first time, either). Yes?? Because I didn't know what you had in mind?? Get real! Yes!! Because you didn't *ask*!! Oh yes I should anticipate to ask for something I don't know that it exists? LOL Oh, yeah, you won, because I didn't know what you had in mind, right? So silly. Well, I don't think anybody wins these silly arguments. But a person can *lose* by just, you know, being RELY RELY STPID. You *lost* because you were in such a hurry to accuse me of getting the timeline wrong that you didn't stop to think whether that made any sense. No, you still didn't get it: your distraction is still on. I was referring to your claim Robin 'had seen through me' and that either of these two letters consists proof for it. Now your call.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I think Barry is in the south of France pursuing solitude - or so he said, no? In the south of France, solitude pursues YOU, not vice-versa. :-) But yes, I'm staying in a 300-year-old house that used to be a silk-weaving establishment, and the silence is so profound that the only thing that disturbs it is the wind, which...uh...isn't all that disturbing. I quickly scanned FFL in Message View this morning, but to be honest didn't bother to read anything other than AZ's comments about BB and a couple of Xeno's keen observations. All I needed to know about FFL and its obsessions could be learned from the search engine. I made a total of 5 posts this posting week, and then moved out into the countryside and no longer bothered either reading or responding. But search for the number of posts made after August 16 that contain turq OR turquoiseb OR Barry and you get a grand total of 171 posts. Out of a total of 440 posts. That means -- as far as I can tell -- that you people are so devoid of things to talk about in your own lives that you spend 38.8% of your posts talking about someone WHO ISN'T EVEN HERE. We've seen this before, in the way that some here continued to obsess on Vaj or Curtis or Sal S or others who blew off this place as Not Worth Their Time. Try to imagine how embarrassing that'll be for all of you if I do the same thing. I mean, all these years (in some cases decades) spent trying to demonize Barry, and all you can find to talk about when he's not posting is... uh...Barry. I think that kinda says it all.
[FairfieldLife] Lady Gaga for Robin
Yoga makes me feel like I can do anything. Lipstick makes me feel like a slut. I only need these two things to survive. Lady Gaga http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/02/yoga-makes-me-feel-like-i-can-do-\ anything-lipstick-makes-me-feel-like-a-slut-i-only-need-these-two-things\ -to-survive-lady-gaga/ http://www.elephantjournal.com/2011/02/yoga-makes-me-feel-like-i-can-do\ -anything-lipstick-makes-me-feel-like-a-slut-i-only-need-these-two-thing\ s-to-survive-lady-gaga/ :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Uh-oh am I in trouble Uncle Tantrum :-) (you better add Tantra and Tantrum, King Baby to your search keywords as well, do you have your spreadsheet somewhere online?) On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: I think Barry is in the south of France pursuing solitude - or so he said, no? In the south of France, solitude pursues YOU, not vice-versa. :-) But yes, I'm staying in a 300-year-old house that used to be a silk-weaving establishment, and the silence is so profound that the only thing that disturbs it is the wind, which...uh...isn't all that disturbing. I quickly scanned FFL in Message View this morning, but to be honest didn't bother to read anything other than AZ's comments about BB and a couple of Xeno's keen observations. All I needed to know about FFL and its obsessions could be learned from the search engine. I made a total of 5 posts this posting week, and then moved out into the countryside and no longer bothered either reading or responding. But search for the number of posts made after August 16 that contain turq OR turquoiseb OR Barry and you get a grand total of 171 posts. Out of a total of 440 posts. That means -- as far as I can tell -- that you people are so devoid of things to talk about in your own lives that you spend 38.8% of your posts talking about someone WHO ISN'T EVEN HERE. We've seen this before, in the way that some here continued to obsess on Vaj or Curtis or Sal S or others who blew off this place as Not Worth Their Time. Try to imagine how embarrassing that'll be for all of you if I do the same thing. I mean, all these years (in some cases decades) spent trying to demonize Barry, and all you can find to talk about when he's not posting is... uh...Barry. I think that kinda says it all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: No dear - this guy needs to chill with some Irani chai (tea), Hyderabadi style http://youtu.be/fj43k9DH6UE Oh thank you Ravigaru, yes, I wouldn't mind having a chill with some Iranichai. I didn't see any in Pondy, when I was there last, it's mainly in Andhra. Cheers up my heart seeing scenes in India, it's been over 6 month I haven't been there. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adyjwFgXRNY Chill, dude. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea wrote: (snip) That's were you got your timeline wrong, and you prove another time, that you always disguise facts, by simply creating a diversion. Distract, point in a different direction to create a smokescreen, and ultimately make your audience tired. And it#s simply lame of you to not be able to admit obvious mistakes. No, no, toots, this was your mistake. It isn't a diversion or a disguising of fact or a distraction or a smokescreen to explain to you where you went wrong--quite the opposite, in fact. I'm so sorry it tires you out to have to deal with your errors, but them's the breaks. It should have been obvious when I referred to Robin's courteous response which post I had in mind LOL only in your mind. I'm not into mind-reading, Oh, you most certainly are. You're *heavily* into it. Where? When? Take your time if you need to think something up.. like yourself. If you are referring to something, why don't you just spell it out, which post you mean, so that we know, what you are talking about. As I already said, if you weren't sure what post I was referring to, *you could have asked*. But you didn't, you just made a quick assumption without thinking because you were so eager to get me. I could have asked, had I known you had some specific posts in mind, not related at all to the posts we were actually discussing. To do this is called distraction. (since that was the *only* courteous response he addressed to you before he left), I don't know what you mean by 'courteous'. that's totally your value system, you live in a world, a bubble of your own. Gettin' a little tired, are ya? Dictionaries are good if you don't know what a word means. And most cultures value courtesy. It isn't some crazy American idea, or crazy FFL idea, or crazy Judy idea. It's pretty much universal. Universal in your mind only. Judy, to be honest with you, this is your main problem: That you take your value system, your feelings about people and their reactions for granted, and never question your own impression. Very often, you are simply wrong. but you were so anxious to get me that you didn't pay any attention to what I'd said and got the whole thing bassackwards (not for the first time, either). Yes?? Because I didn't know what you had in mind?? Get real! Yes!! Because you didn't *ask*!! Oh yes I should anticipate to ask for something I don't know that it exists? LOL Oh, yeah, you won, because I didn't know what you had in mind, right? So silly. Well, I don't think anybody wins these silly arguments. But a person can *lose* by just, you know, being RELY RELY STPID. You *lost* because you were in such a hurry to accuse me of getting the timeline wrong that you didn't stop to think whether that made any sense. No, you still didn't get it: your distraction is still on. I was referring to your claim Robin 'had seen through me' and that either of these two letters consists proof for it. Now your call.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Judy, Judy, Judy, it's always a pleasure to hear from you, regret this will only be a drive-by appearance as I'm now fully employed, and the wife expects me to work for the salary she pays me; no more management consulting for me (shouldn't complain, I had a good 27 year run pretending that was work); my present retirement strategy is to work till I drop and then meet Robin in the big Starbucks in the sky (hope Melville will be there too), and find out what the hell happened at the bombing of Monte Cassino. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:36:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) BobbyBobbyBobbyBobby! What a treat to see you again. Like a big frosty tart-sweet glass of limeade, you are. Clears the palate and the sinuses. And boy, we needed that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nagel for Salyavin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Thanks for seeking it out. The Core of `Mind and Cosmos'By THOMAS NAGEL http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/author/thomas-nagel/ This is a brief statement of positions defended more fully in my book Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False, which was published by Oxford University Press last year. Since then the book has attracted a good deal of critical attention, which is not surprising, given the entrenchment of the world view that it attacks. It seemed useful to offer a short summary of the central argument. Read more:http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-an\ d-cosmos/ http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-and-co\ smos/ So it's *that* old chestnut. I can't imagine what the controversy is about then, this idea has been around for donkey's years. Probably just some bloggers reacting to the term neo-Darwinism being false. Bless 'em. I always thought that if mind was some sort of intrinsic quality of the universe there ought to be a lot more of it about, and maybe of better quality than ours. Fact is, it took millions of years to arise on Earth and it needn't have so I can't imagine what sort of waiting game it was playing. I stick with probability A, there will be a complete neurological explanation but how we translate that into something that satisfies *personally* is up to us. I suspect some sort of feedback mechanism like the brain uses for everything else, the immediacy of consciousness ceases during sleep or general anaesthetic because it is electrical activity and our subjective part, that causes all the hassle, ceases too because it is inextricably bound up with the sensations that is the majority part of experience. There is a part of the brain where our sense of self resides and this is another part of the feedback monitoring system that goes during sleep. Consciousness is us being caught between different brain functions but the bit that we think is us can never be pinned down as it depends on us looking at the rest of what is happening inside to maintain an illusion that there is an us to start with. It's like a hall of mirrors, turn round as fast as you like but you'll never see the original you. Turn the lights off though and you see nothing. It's a machine. But it fools itself into thinking it's something it's not, if it stayed on all the time I'd be a bit more convinced. But it evolved like everything else in the brain and is therefore a bodge-up, maybe one day we'll be able to see our brains working and realise how it's all done. Actually, when I'm meditating I think I get a better glimpse of how it works because a lot of extraneous chatter can get shut down but the sense of the presence of me remains, until I fall asleep. A ghost in a sleepy machine...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnb7-nVKzLE From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:08:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Bob, welcome back - are you here to restore musicality? Raise the bar a bit? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of
Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnb7-nVKzLE From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:08:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Bob, welcome back - are you here to restore musicality? Raise the bar a bit? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Ravi, You will always be the man*. No one can make an insult sing and dance the way you can. I believe you should be required reading for anyone who believes they arrived anywhere. With the drawing of this Love and the voice of this Calling We shall not cease from exploration And the end of all our exploring Will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time. Through the unknown, remembered gate When the last of earth left to discover Is that which was the beginning; At the source of the longest river The voice of the hidden waterfall And the children in the appletree Not known, because not looked for But heard, halfheard, in the stillness Between two waves of the sea. Quick now, here, now, always- A condition of complete simplicity (Costing not less than everything) And all shall be well and All manner of thing shall be well When the tongues of flame are infolded Into the crowned knot of fire And the fire and the rose are one. - T.S. Elliot Little Gidding (Quartet No. 4) *This forum has seen many explorers; you and Robin are two of them. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:13:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Now where the fuck is Robin? :-) Damn that was good Bob - how can I be like you? You are one of most creative persons to have graced this list - you leave me with the dissonant feelings of delight, wonder coupled with envy !!! On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing. :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Since death is all we can count on (if taxes are not your thing, there's always Dubai or life as an illegal alien in the Netherlands) I think the key to picking a female householder is finding one with a shared belief in unicorns.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCz0mLFsSFE From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Dear Bob, Greetings to you and yours. Cherishing this moment to share this message. I mischievously piled on top of Ann's post last evening due to similar requirements of need, sleep and dreams. Please give the wife my well wishes, and please tell her not to worry about anything, because, even though John was married, he too had fans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLvTq6FdOj4 and may the post limits be dropped forever, and may the members monitor each other, just like the buddy system on a course, of course. -Obbajeeba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54sZ8TFFAmY
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5dYQHoZS0 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:46:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) You came home! Welcome back, Bob. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of characters Jim Thompson (writer of The Getaway and
Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Since death is all we can count on (if taxes are not your thing, there's always Dubai or life as an illegal alien in the Netherlands) I think the key to picking a female householder is finding one with a shared belief in unicorns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCz0mLFsSFE From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Dear Bob, Greetings to you and yours. Cherishing this moment to share this message. I mischievously piled on top of Ann's post last evening due to similar requirements of need, sleep and dreams. Please give the wife my well wishes, and please tell her not to worry about anything, because, even though John was married, he too had fans http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLvTq6FdOj4 and may the post limits be dropped forever, and may the members monitor each other, just like the buddy system on a course, of course. -Obbajeeba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54sZ8TFFAmY
Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5dYQHoZS0 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:46:45 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) You came home! Welcome back, Bob. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from Dodd's voice to Quell *living* a previous experience as if for the first time, and the familiarity it had to my first meditation and the first superlative clarity of the thought (engram or, if you will, un-stressing) that reported or noticed an artifact of my awareness that had just existed without thinking. The art of the writing, acting, and editing were part of it, but I believe it was the cinematography, with its use of 70mm film (which is rare today), that more than anything else was essential to making the experience possible for me. Another component of the film that worked the same way for me was Joaquin Phoenix's characterization of Freddie Quell, which allowed me to experience---as if for the first time---character types that I met as a child who were friends of my father that had served with him in WW2; JP's characterization of Quell had the same effect on me as a number of characters Jim Thompson (writer of The Getaway
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: Btw. very sad, the Thomas Aquinas just sank.. Sank how, where, into what? Totally OT, but here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23729996
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sharing Japan's Ring of Fire, domelike shockwave
LL-linkable links may have problem at FFL the Kagoshima weather webcam, the 'magic mirror' of mediated augmented reality, giving you visual information about the environment of Sakurajima Volcano seen from Kagoshima seems to work fine. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/354254 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/354254 [http://painter-k.aa1.netvolante.jp:8005/-wvhttp-01-/image.cgi?v=jpg:140\ x105] You may watch the change from night and day by opening this post whenever and wherever you like... [http://sakura008.dyndns.org:8002/-wvhttp-01-/image.cgi?v=jpg:75x56] Just in case you want to sight a UFO live webcam feed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpNx8R7Gs3o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpNx8R7Gs3o or just in case you do not want to catch or frighten a nightcrawler [http://tmkn.mydns.jp:8005/-wvhttp-01-/GetStillImage] Where this poor one may lay his wrongs away, And sickness may forget to weep? Isn't our right in the Baths of Night Body and soul to steep? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Actually, in the Howard Stern interview, Howard kept on encouraging him to say something bad about Katey Perry. Say something bad about her vagina. Brand's response was my wife was perfect from top to bottom. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I read the article with amusement and disgust - whether you think him vile and disgusting or merely graceless, his TM-ing is running true to form - the Movement goes to asses to do PR for them - just look at their behavior and see if its a good advertisement for TM From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  When PR fails, they may try to send him on Purusha, by pressing bad press??? LOL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2384829/Russell-Brand-jokes-think-women-love-Katy-Perry.html Hey Russy baby, don't listen to all those brainless boobs. Just phuck em like a harem. Of course some of them just lay there ( Don't want to mess up the hair, or the makeup or the nails.)  No need to move to Uttar Kashi and give up your bank account to save your soul, either.               Mr. Brand, please do these exceptional yagyas for this and that.   This $$. and That $. I don't care what the Maharishi Pandits have said. I know. Been there, done that.  Keep trying. Don't give up. Don't give it all away. It will not make your life any better. You will get that special one, some day, that darn Rahu/Shukra thing gives a rough ride sometimes, but don't give up. Just find someone with the Rahu/Shukra too, then you too can sit and hold hands by that television on the couch,( for 5 minutes) as per more media crap says you say, where did you find your handlers   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/russell-brand_n_3491697.html There, Nabby, I posted this to give you something else to think about beyond crop circles...your other most favorite topic; People who are famous who have done TM or do TM or continue TM. :) ...this is also to help Mr. Brand know he can keep his chin up because, just because posting this was something to do, to fill a day of fasting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Wonder how much Lynch paid him to tout TM - as we all know, if you visit OTHER SAINTS you can't git in the Domes - what a bunch of disingenuous saps the TM leaders and PR people are. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . àHmm. Come on Russell, who's yer real Daddy?àlolàJust sayin.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/comedian-russell-brand-pictured-exploring-2179780à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten 1 year ago dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curryïûÿ conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Don't you just love those million dollar hippie clothes? Bet Keith Richards still meditates... LOL From: Seraphita s3raphita@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . Ãâ . . . Ãâ and Paul and Ringo still promote the meditation. But I wonder how many members of the Rolling Stones are still repeating their mantras. Not this guy obviously . . .Ãâ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4Ãâ
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Me thinks that you needed to get checked. Noise is no barrier to meditation simply because it doesn't matter what your response is, not because you can somehow handle the noise in some elegantly spiritual fashion. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@... wrote: Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park during renovation work! I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate before darkness falls on that date. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned above about the guys seeking the studio to authentic Himalayan silence, is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both experiences. Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain sometimes, good point to share. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Actually, in the Howard Stern interview, Howard kept on encouraging him to say something bad about Katey Perry. Say something bad about her vagina. Hmmm, Stern sounds like he's developed some empathy and quality values from his 40 years of meditating. Brand's response was my wife was perfect from top to bottom. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I read the article with amusement and disgust - whether you think him vile and disgusting or merely graceless, his TM-ing is running true to form - the Movement goes to asses to do PR for them - just look at their behavior and see if its a good advertisement for TM From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  When PR fails, they may try to send him on Purusha, by pressing bad press??? LOL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2384829/Russell-Brand-jokes-think-women-love-Katy-Perry.html Hey Russy baby, don't listen to all those brainless boobs. Just phuck em like a harem. Of course some of them just lay there ( Don't want to mess up the hair, or the makeup or the nails.)  No need to move to Uttar Kashi and give up your bank account to save your soul, either.               Mr. Brand, please do these exceptional yagyas for this and that.   This $$. and That $. I don't care what the Maharishi Pandits have said. I know. Been there, done that.  Keep trying. Don't give up. Don't give it all away. It will not make your life any better. You will get that special one, some day, that darn Rahu/Shukra thing gives a rough ride sometimes, but don't give up. Just find someone with the Rahu/Shukra too, then you too can sit and hold hands by that television on the couch,( for 5 minutes) as per more media crap says you say, where did you find your handlers   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/russell-brand_n_3491697.html There, Nabby, I posted this to give you something else to think about beyond crop circles...your other most favorite topic; People who are famous who have done TM or do TM or continue TM. :) ...this is also to help Mr. Brand know he can keep his chin up because, just because posting this was something to do, to fill a day of fasting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Wonder how much Lynch paid him to tout TM - as we all know, if you visit OTHER SAINTS you can't git in the Domes - what a bunch of disingenuous saps the TM leaders and PR people are. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . àHmm. Come on Russell, who's yer real Daddy?àlolàJust sayin.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/comedian-russell-brand-pictured-exploring-2179780à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten 1 year ago dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curryïûÿ conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Don't you just love those million dollar hippie clothes? Bet Keith Richards still meditates... LOL From: Seraphita s3raphita@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . Ãâ . . . Ãâ and Paul and Ringo still promote the meditation. But I wonder how many members of the Rolling Stones are still repeating their mantras. Not this guy obviously . . .Ãâ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4Ãâ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week
Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
and this was between two grown men?? I guess it makes sense, given that Howard Stern is truly one of the best looking men on the planet. NOT. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Actually, in the Howard Stern interview, Howard kept on encouraging him to say something bad about Katey Perry. Say something bad about her vagina. Brand's response was my wife was perfect from top to bottom. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I read the article with amusement and disgust - whether you think him vile and disgusting or merely graceless, his TM-ing is running true to form - the Movement goes to asses to do PR for them - just look at their behavior and see if its a good advertisement for TM From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  When PR fails, they may try to send him on Purusha, by pressing bad press??? LOL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2384829/Russell-Brand-jokes-think-women-love-Katy-Perry.html Hey Russy baby, don't listen to all those brainless boobs. Just phuck em like a harem. Of course some of them just lay there ( Don't want to mess up the hair, or the makeup or the nails.)  No need to move to Uttar Kashi and give up your bank account to save your soul, either.               Mr. Brand, please do these exceptional yagyas for this and that.   This $$. and That $. I don't care what the Maharishi Pandits have said. I know. Been there, done that.  Keep trying. Don't give up. Don't give it all away. It will not make your life any better. You will get that special one, some day, that darn Rahu/Shukra thing gives a rough ride sometimes, but don't give up. Just find someone with the Rahu/Shukra too, then you too can sit and hold hands by that television on the couch,( for 5 minutes) as per more media crap says you say, where did you find your handlers   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/russell-brand_n_3491697.html There, Nabby, I posted this to give you something else to think about beyond crop circles...your other most favorite topic; People who are famous who have done TM or do TM or continue TM. :) ...this is also to help Mr. Brand know he can keep his chin up because, just because posting this was something to do, to fill a day of fasting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Wonder how much Lynch paid him to tout TM - as we all know, if you visit OTHER SAINTS you can't git in the Domes - what a bunch of disingenuous saps the TM leaders and PR people are. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . àHmm. Come on Russell, who's yer real Daddy?àlolàJust sayin.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/comedian-russell-brand-pictured-exploring-2179780à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten 1 year ago dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curryïûÿ conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Don't you just love those million dollar hippie clothes? Bet Keith Richards still meditates... LOL From: Seraphita s3raphita@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . Ãâ . . . Ãâ and Paul and Ringo still promote the meditation. But I wonder how many members of the Rolling Stones are still repeating their mantras. Not this guy obviously . . .Ãâ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4Ãâ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Thanks - Stay nice! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Hey Doc - thank you, yes indeed a natural fascination/attraction for other cultures, there's healthy and unhealthy and you are right I got to see lot of unhealthy aping of Hindu customs around Amma. Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually special just because you are Indian - lol No - dear God no. Because all my life, pre-2009 I have acted normal, extremely introverted except at work and focused on my career and family. Post-2009 it's a different story - it's either a loving, playful, sincere, supportive act with friends and totally outrageous, crazy, witty, silly - hell bent on mocking, confusing, perplexing people and pushing their buttons with my act. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM, doctordumbass@... no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Ooops - Conversely, met a lot of brown and black people... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Its a weird fucking thing - I have met a lot of white people in the US who have some desire at some point, to be black or brown, ethnic, or, exotic. Your descriptions of all the, my precious little brown sister stuff, around Amma, reminds me of it. Conversely, met a lot of brown and people that want to be whiter. I grew up as a minority white kid, but I also tanned - lol, and spoke the languages of the countries where I lived. Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually special just because you are Indian - lol? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective, spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby leaves the person invulnerable to reality. So an important premise of the definition is that each of us human beings are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced by reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like to objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a mysterious, dynamic, organic entity) Once an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief, hopelessly deceived and deluded. Amma - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old superstitious beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ââ¬â¹mysterious, dynamic, organic entity. Here Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and uneducated fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also enacted these myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must have played along as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore, their beliefs. Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity for a long time. Now you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an incredulous narrative of 18th century woo-woo. And on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further and elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards - even a doctorate follows. Westerners burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by this existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves from reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and complexities were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale who a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing Saint. It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long - the majority anyway. So will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a mere instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma? Amma - a mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned charlatan? Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
He IS the master of the shock-jock style of interview. When he interviewed MMY, he was ultra-respectful, I believe (if nothing else, his mom would have killed him). L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Actually, in the Howard Stern interview, Howard kept on encouraging him to say something bad about Katey Perry. Say something bad about her vagina. Hmmm, Stern sounds like he's developed some empathy and quality values from his 40 years of meditating. Brand's response was my wife was perfect from top to bottom. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I read the article with amusement and disgust - whether you think him vile and disgusting or merely graceless, his TM-ing is running true to form - the Movement goes to asses to do PR for them - just look at their behavior and see if its a good advertisement for TM From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  When PR fails, they may try to send him on Purusha, by pressing bad press??? LOL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2384829/Russell-Brand-jokes-think-women-love-Katy-Perry.html Hey Russy baby, don't listen to all those brainless boobs. Just phuck em like a harem. Of course some of them just lay there ( Don't want to mess up the hair, or the makeup or the nails.)  No need to move to Uttar Kashi and give up your bank account to save your soul, either.               Mr. Brand, please do these exceptional yagyas for this and that.   This $$. and That $. I don't care what the Maharishi Pandits have said. I know. Been there, done that.  Keep trying. Don't give up. Don't give it all away. It will not make your life any better. You will get that special one, some day, that darn Rahu/Shukra thing gives a rough ride sometimes, but don't give up. Just find someone with the Rahu/Shukra too, then you too can sit and hold hands by that television on the couch,( for 5 minutes) as per more media crap says you say, where did you find your handlers   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/russell-brand_n_3491697.html There, Nabby, I posted this to give you something else to think about beyond crop circles...your other most favorite topic; People who are famous who have done TM or do TM or continue TM. :) ...this is also to help Mr. Brand know he can keep his chin up because, just because posting this was something to do, to fill a day of fasting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Wonder how much Lynch paid him to tout TM - as we all know, if you visit OTHER SAINTS you can't git in the Domes - what a bunch of disingenuous saps the TM leaders and PR people are. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . àHmm. Come on Russell, who's yer real Daddy?àlolàJust sayin.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/comedian-russell-brand-pictured-exploring-2179780à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten 1 year ago dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curryïûÿ conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Don't you just love those million dollar hippie clothes? Bet Keith Richards still meditates... LOL From: Seraphita s3raphita@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . Ãâ . . . Ãâ and Paul and Ringo still promote the meditation. But I wonder how many members of the Rolling Stones are still repeating their mantras. Not this guy obviously . . .Ãâ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klx-IDQEwy4Ãâ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
Most so-called Atlantic Salmon is farmed - fish packed in pens, pumped full of steroids and antibiotics, so they can grow to adult size in a fraction of the time. I am anything but a foodie, though I wanted to share that tidbit with you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week  Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Learn the Language of the Kingdom!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/9551419805/ stere-ah te-ev miamahs-ah te mihole arab tihsereb. --
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Thanks, that was enlightening, as usual. Now, back to your solitude, please, Voldemort. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Uh-oh am I in trouble Uncle Tantrum :-) (you better add Tantra and Tantrum, King Baby to your search keywords as well, do you have your spreadsheet somewhere online?) On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I think Barry is in the south of France pursuing solitude - or so he said, no? In the south of France, solitude pursues YOU, not vice-versa. :-) But yes, I'm staying in a 300-year-old house that used to be a silk-weaving establishment, and the silence is so profound that the only thing that disturbs it is the wind, which...uh...isn't all that disturbing. I quickly scanned FFL in Message View this morning, but to be honest didn't bother to read anything other than AZ's comments about BB and a couple of Xeno's keen observations. All I needed to know about FFL and its obsessions could be learned from the search engine. I made a total of 5 posts this posting week, and then moved out into the countryside and no longer bothered either reading or responding. But search for the number of posts made after August 16 that contain turq OR turquoiseb OR Barry and you get a grand total of 171 posts. Out of a total of 440 posts. That means -- as far as I can tell -- that you people are so devoid of things to talk about in your own lives that you spend 38.8% of your posts talking about someone WHO ISN'T EVEN HERE. We've seen this before, in the way that some here continued to obsess on Vaj or Curtis or Sal S or others who blew off this place as Not Worth Their Time. Try to imagine how embarrassing that'll be for all of you if I do the same thing. I mean, all these years (in some cases decades) spent trying to demonize Barry, and all you can find to talk about when he's not posting is... uh...Barry. I think that kinda says it all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
SPANX! Excellent - I actually had to cut the crotch panel out to accommodate MYSELF, but other than that, I am svelte! Yes, you and Emily are almost without thinking, members of the MGC. Dirty little secret: If you could see inside Voldemort's head and heart, there is a crowd of mean girls in there, to rival the Pope's last audience at the Vatican. Ssshh, just between you and me, Bob. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. Â And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.ÃÂ ÃÂ :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with:ÃÂ Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. Â And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need to be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little special consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are quite high. This, and the fact that you have actually requested membership, although this will be put forward to the rest of the existing members for a vote, also stands in your favour for inclusion. We also have another male in our Club (Dr Jim) so including a second man will balance out our group nicely. Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as far as Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership goes without saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience around fools and acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability to spot a fake or an asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving someone a good lashing when she has a mind to. Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly with our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I am virtually positive you will make the cut. From: Ann awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.ÃÂ ÃÂ :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with:ÃÂ Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Thank you, Ann. Perhaps a picture of Bob, in SPANX, would help sway the judges? ? Also, a minor point of order - I believe that *Ravi* is ALSO a charter member of the MGC? And judging from those fitted shirts, I'd say SPANX are um, familiar to him. Oh YES! Ravi is indeed a member, and a gold member as well. My mean girl mind left me for a moment when I was writing that post to Bob (does he do that to all the women?). At any rate, my apologies to our ultimate MG Ravi who is an essential element of our charming group. And while on the subject, do you have any ideas for a logo for the club? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. Â And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need to be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little special consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are quite high. This, and the fact that you have actually requested membership, although this will be put forward to the rest of the existing members for a vote, also stands in your favour for inclusion. We also have another male in our Club (Dr Jim) so including a second man will balance out our group nicely. Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as far as Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership goes without saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience around fools and acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability to spot a fake or an asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving someone a good lashing when she has a mind to. Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly with our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I am virtually positive you will make the cut. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.ÃÂ ÃÂ :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with:ÃÂ Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Thank you, Ann. Perhaps a picture of Bob, in SPANX, would help sway the judges? ? Also, a minor point of order - I believe that *Ravi* is ALSO a charter member of the MGC? And judging from those fitted shirts, I'd say SPANX are um, familiar to him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. Â And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need to be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little special consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are quite high. This, and the fact that you have actually requested membership, although this will be put forward to the rest of the existing members for a vote, also stands in your favour for inclusion. We also have another male in our Club (Dr Jim) so including a second man will balance out our group nicely. Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as far as Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership goes without saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience around fools and acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability to spot a fake or an asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving someone a good lashing when she has a mind to. Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly with our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I am virtually positive you will make the cut. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.ÃÂ ÃÂ :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with:ÃÂ Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Ravi, you and I are like brother and sister. Okay, maybe first cousins who live a few blocks from each other, but not step brother and sister either (That makes it a bit different sometimes). Kissing cousins have full romanticism yet the barrier and barer of duty, dharma has our true plan. :) Someone with the name derivative with the same underlying entity of commonality as the named, Bob, no matter forward or reverse, this name, makes me play act like a cupbearer to the King. King Robert, Rob, Robby, Bob, Bobby, whether first or second named in the family, are all King-like and I have, heck, you know that thing (file)I sent you, well that name, Christopher, is actually one of the above variations of experience in my life. Mr. Bob Price, is in his own right, has that ability as you mention below, yet, there is a uncanny accuracy in his represented being for which swallows my life blood, as he does this to many, and I am sure Mrs. Price is aware of this, but she has no worry, that is what attracted her to him in the first place, I can imagine, and she cherishes his Krishna type playfulness. He is devote as they come. Ravi, you too, are playful and full of fun. I am your cousin, forever! Bhagwad Geeta, Chapter 7 Bankruptcy proceedings, taking place as one lets go of all they thought was what their purpose was, to release the self to the debt of possible creditors who may not have been given full respect previously because the eye on Prophets, where the gaze may be, may not have seemed proper, but a necessary truth in the long run, for life to continue, it needs refreshing love. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Oh dear Obba - this is really hilarious, especially the part about put me on your list for next lifetime Bob?. Bob definitely knows how to charm women - he is a serious threat to me here !!! And what was the deal with that Bhagwad Geeta, chapter 7 Bankruptcy proceedings - WTF? totally cracked me up. Carry on dear. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 8:13 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** Oh geez Ann, what'd ya hafta do that for? Cozy us all down to not being liked by a possible somebody or two. Since you DID this, I must confess, right here and now, because I want to, not because I have to that my Love for the Turq has truly been pretend. I thought since everyone is confessing and I don't want to hear others had to go to the doctor and get on stronger meds, or if I caused anyone to smoke or bate vigorously, or vomit, to each his own, and you know already, the Turq stayed clear of FFL today on account of sticking his head in a brothel near Paris, because Mr. Bob Price gave him a good whippin yesterday. Yes he did. There is no one I do not like on this FFL board. Only stimulating challenge is how I see it. My lie was with the Turq though. He is a repulsive old man, even though an older man can be highly attractive to me, the Turq is what they refer to as, tout lavé. I may think different if he was to repent, but as Mr. Bob Price put it, well, I cannot even attempt to explain anything he said, it was just absolutely beautiful and majestic. A true King, and his consort, Mrs. Price. Put me on your list for next life time, Bob? ;) Just saying that is enough to make the Turq shrivel and shrink like a man in cold bath water. Turq, only the really good looking men want me, so no need to attempt to demean me as you do not fit in that category, no matter how many cute movie stars you fall in love with while only viewing them on your computer or at the movie house. Bitch. There. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: It's okay Rory. No one needs to do what Barry does so well himself (and it isn't that he isevil) but what he reveals about himself needs no verification, encouragement or validation by others. He is the author, the creator of his own persona; it doesn't require any action from anyone else to allow this to show itself. I don't think anyone here is against anyone else because the love Barry or think he's a great writer or is God's gift to travelogue posts. We are all going to see people differently and they are going to either appeal to us or not appeal to us. There are so many personalities here and I am not sure there is one single person that everyone unanimously likes - except Alex! Ha! True enough, Ann. I just forgot for a bit what it was like here :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymae.reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: I think Barry is in the south of France pursuing solitude - or so he said, no? In the south of France, solitude pursues YOU, not vice-versa. :-) But yes, I'm staying in a 300-year-old house that used to be a silk-weaving establishment, and the silence is so profound that the only thing that disturbs it is the wind, which...uh...isn't all that disturbing. I quickly scanned FFL in Message View this morning, but to be honest didn't bother to read anything other than AZ's comments about BB and a couple of Xeno's keen observations. All I needed to know about FFL and its obsessions could be learned from the search engine. I made a total of 5 posts this posting week, and then moved out into the countryside and no longer bothered either reading or responding. But search for the number of posts made after August 16 that contain turq OR turquoiseb OR Barry and you get a grand total of 171 posts. Out of a total of 440 posts. That means -- as far as I can tell -- that you people are so devoid of things to talk about in your own lives that you spend 38.8% of your posts talking about someone WHO ISN'T EVEN HERE. Important fact: No one is here Barry. This is the Internet. We've seen this before, in the way that some here continued to obsess on Vaj or Curtis or Sal S or others who blew off this place as Not Worth Their Time. Try to imagine how embarrassing that'll be for all of you if I do the same thing. I mean, all these years (in some cases decades) spent trying to demonize Barry, and all you can find to talk about when he's not posting is... uh...Barry. I think that kinda says it all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Lawson, years ago Rolling Stones magazine interviewed Howard Stern and asked him if there was anyone or anything he would not mock. He immediately replied Maharishi and TM. But he didn't mention his Mom in that context only that he had benefited from TM. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:13 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . . He IS the master of the shock-jock style of interview. When he interviewed MMY, he was ultra-respectful, I believe (if nothing else, his mom would have killed him). L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Actually, in the Howard Stern interview, Howard kept on encouraging him to say something bad about Katey Perry. Say something bad about her vagina. Hmmm, Stern sounds like he's developed some empathy and quality values from his 40 years of meditating. Brand's response was my wife was perfect from top to bottom. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I read the article with amusement and disgust - whether you think him vile and disgusting or merely graceless, his TM-ing is running true to form - the Movement goes to asses to do PR for them - just look at their behavior and see if its a good advertisement for TM From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  When PR fails, they may try to send him on Purusha, by pressing bad press??? LOL http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2384829/Russell-Brand-jokes-think-women-love-Katy-Perry.html Hey Russy baby, don't listen to all those brainless boobs. Just phuck em like a harem. Of course some of them just lay there ( Don't want to mess up the hair, or the makeup or the nails.)  No need to move to Uttar Kashi and give up your bank account to save your soul, either.               Mr. Brand, please do these exceptional yagyas for this and that.   This $$. and That $. I don't care what the Maharishi Pandits have said. I know. Been there, done that.  Keep trying. Don't give up. Don't give it all away. It will not make your life any better. You will get that special one, some day, that darn Rahu/Shukra thing gives a rough ride sometimes, but don't give up. Just find someone with the Rahu/Shukra too, then you too can sit and hold hands by that television on the couch,( for 5 minutes) as per more media crap says you say, where did you find your handlers   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/russell-brand_n_3491697.html There, Nabby, I posted this to give you something else to think about beyond crop circles...your other most favorite topic; People who are famous who have done TM or do TM or continue TM. :) ...this is also to help Mr. Brand know he can keep his chin up because, just because posting this was something to do, to fill a day of fasting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Wonder how much Lynch paid him to tout TM - as we all know, if you visit OTHER SAINTS you can't git in the Domes - what a bunch of disingenuous saps the TM leaders and PR people are. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  Hmm. Come on Russell, who's yer real Daddy? lol Just sayin.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/comedian-russell-brand-pictured-exploring-2179780 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita wrote: Uber-hippies alright. I thought the third comment down was a little judgemental: weskitten 1 year ago dF8alM that TM wanker. Bloody curry conman! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: Don't you just love those million dollar hippie clothes? Bet Keith Richards still meditates... LOL From: Seraphita s3raphita@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 5:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
[FairfieldLife] Barryscam Alert (was: Re: Meditators)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: But search for the number of posts made after August 16 that contain turq OR turquoiseb OR Barry and you get a grand total of 171 posts. Out of a total of 440 posts. Amazing. He's trying to pull *the Same Old Scam*. Cut 171 down to a third, maybe fewer (50 or so), for *original* mentions of Barry's name, as opposed to quotes of same. Barry knows 171 isn't an honest figure. He doesn't care. It makes him feel Important, and that's all that matters. That means -- as far as I can tell -- Watch out for as far as I can tell in Barry's posts. As in this case, it usually means almost nothing. (snip) We've seen this before, We've *never* seen it. It exists only in Barry's mind. in the way that some here continued to obsess on Vaj or Curtis or Sal S or others who blew off this place as Not Worth Their Time. That isn't why any of the three of them left, and nobody obsessed on them except in Barry's imagination. Try to imagine how embarrassing that'll be for all of you if I do the same thing. Oh, don't worry about us, Barry. We won't have any trouble tolerating the embarrassment. We'll be too busy celebrating. I mean, all these years (in some cases decades) spent trying to demonize Barry, and all you can find to talk about when he's not posting is... uh...Barry. I think that kinda says it all. What *really* says it all is that nobody has ever thought this but Barry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group - Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week and I'm having a lot of fun. Ah, OK, Ravi; thanks for putting that in context. And I am glad you're having a lot of fun. Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's devotees indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the owner/moderator Jim was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to June this year). I was also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed over the moderatorship to some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). So he made the archives private while he could delete all attack posts, he invited me back as well. Unfortunately he ran into several Yahoo bugs where he lost the ability to delete posts and to make the archives public again - he is still working on it. And so I make sure I duplicate some of my posts here so it's publicly searchable. Thank you for sharing your experiences. My pleasure, Ravi. I only hope you're not as bored with them as I am :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: Not a year, can't count? According to the archives, your last post here as iranitea was in August 2012; your last post as zarzari was January 2012. Was there another name I'm forgetting in between then and now? And you come back with guns blazing because an old post had wrong attributions? Oops, is that forbidden? When I see my name with all wrong things I never said? Oh, dear, oh, dear, oh, dear! How awful! But you didn't see your name with all wrong things you never said in a current post. You saw a *link* to that old post in a discussion Lawson and I were having that had nothing *whatsoever* to do with you and didn't refer to any of those wrong things you never said. The chances that anybody would click the link and read that whole very long post, including the misattributed quotes, and go, Oh, my goodness, zarzari said *that*?? are pretty close to zero. You just wanted to make a big fuss and try to implicate me as having somehow misrepresented you. You came here *gunning* for me. Sorry, You have called my Liar and all sort of names, right? you are intent of chasing everybody out, who disagrees with your favorite Teddy Bear of any time. Boy, you really need some work on your English in addition to your thinking. No, I am not intent of chasing anybody out, for any reason. I don't have that power. I do call people on their lies, and I do defend people who are being misrepresented. Sue me. I have every right to point out a factual mistake. Right. I never said otherwise. It's just that it's a tempest in a molehill. What were you doing while you were away? Sure doesn't sound as though you were making any spiritual progress. Yep, short of any arguments, make a personal attack. I've responded to every one of your arguments. Having done so, I have the right to comment on what I think of your behavior. Looking at this forum, on which you spend time daily, and which seems to be one of your major projects in your life, Not. I don't think my absence has deprived me of any spiritual progress. To even think that anything you say here, has anything to do with your spiritual progress is kind of silly. This is not really the place, to talk about spiritual progress. I never suggested spiritual progress was to be made here. I was pointing out that you did not seem to have made any spiritual progress in your *absence*. You're even more nasty and angry and reactive and generally hateful than you were before you left. Instead of having this same kind of silly dialogue private, I had decided to take it public on FFL, with all your silly accusations. Ve-ry *smart*, Ma-ri-a, ve-ry *smart*. snicker Actually, I don't regret it. It's good, because it creates clarity. It was infantile. But it certainly did give us more clarity on what kind of person you are. Okay, I'm out for today, it's late here. This is my impression of my short revisit to FFL Oh, are you leaving us again, I hope? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8g3fqchasU
[FairfieldLife] Barryscam Alert (was: Re: Meditators)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: (snip) We've seen this before, We've *never* seen it. It exists only in Barry's mind. You know, I'm very wrong here... in the way that some here continued to obsess on Vaj or Curtis or Sal S or others who blew off this place as Not Worth Their Time. ...I forgot about Barry's obsession with Robin.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Not a year, can't count? According to the archives, your last post here as iranitea was in August 2012; your last post as zarzari was January 2012. Was there another name I'm forgetting in between then and now?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.
[FairfieldLife] Uzes
The town of Uzès, pronounced ee-oo-ZESS, NOT, as some who don't like me much might suggest, ooozes :-), is the small town closest to where I'm staying. See http://uk.uzes-tourisme.com/ http://uk.uzes-tourisme.com/ , and if you want to fully see the horror, decadence, and depravity of the place Turq would choose to go on vacation, watch the video at that link. I wasn't going to bother writing anything to FFL for the next couple of weeks, just to see how crazy the stalkers get when the object of their hatred is withdrawn from them, but this cafe is so pleasant that I figured I'd write a little something anyway, just to share my overall SOB (state of bliss), and thus piss them off and encourage them to reveal who they really are and what motivates them in life. :-) Me, I'm enjoying what motivates me in life -- sitting in a nice sidewalk cafe, watching people (Uzès is famous for being home to some of the most lovely women in France, both French and ex-pats who have settled here), and rapping about Odd Things That Occur To Me. Today's Odd Thing may be a replay, in that it's a personal theory of mine that I may have mentioned here before, and I know that may piss off Those Who Didn't Get It First Time I Mentioned It, but frankly, if they're that dense, why should I worry about them? It's Turq's Judo Theory Of How Pretty Much Everything Works. The science of Judo (a sportified version of Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, and other Japanese martial arts), is all based on one basic idea -- spend most or all of your energy pushing *against* something, and you render yourself off balance, and thus make yourself easy meat for anyone who knows something about the martial arts. Think about it. If you're pushing *against* something or someone, you are *by definition* off balance. All that your opponent has to do do defeat you is to step out of the way, and your own off-balance momentum causes you to fall flat on your face. That's it, the whole theory, in case you're already bored, and want to stop reading. :-) For those who aren't clueful enough to get it without further explanation, this theory covers the mechanics of behavior in battle, in social activities like politics, and in social networking activities like...uh...FFL. In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own behavior. :-) Anyway, that's my theory, which is mine. You may agree with it, or disagree with it, and -- either way -- I don't really give a fuck. As much as it may pain those who focus on me non-stop may like to believe it, NOTHING they write affects me terribly much.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Re Noise is no barrier to meditation simply because it doesn't matter what your response is : I see what you're getting at but given a choice I'm claiming that 100 percent of people meditating would choose a quiet place and not a noisy one. There's got to be some advantage surely? I think one of the most distracting things is other people talking nearby as then I can get drawn into following their conversation. If a group sitting next to you were talking about sparaig's sex life would you be able to effortlessly return to the mantra? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: Me thinks that you needed to get checked. Noise is no barrier to meditation simply because it doesn't matter what your response is, not because you can somehow handle the noise in some elegantly spiritual fashion. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Seraphita s3raphita@ wrote: Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park during renovation work! I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate before darkness falls on that date. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned above about the guys seeking the studio to authentic Himalayan silence, is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both experiences. Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain sometimes, good point to share. :)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Judy, I do find your not remembering his most recent name a little funny as in ironic because I remember how you called me on not recognizing khazana by his writing style. Good Lord, I'm actually feeling some nostalgia! Jeez! From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Not a year, can't count? According to the archives, your last post here as iranitea was in August 2012; your last post as zarzari was January 2012. Was there another name I'm forgetting in between then and now?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Doc, Ravi is young and probably has no need of Spanx. Yet! From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Thank you, Ann. Perhaps a picture of Bob, in SPANX, would help sway the judges? ? Also, a minor point of order - I believe that *Ravi* is ALSO a charter member of the MGC? And judging from those fitted shirts, I'd say SPANX are um, familiar to him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling.  And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need to be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little special consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are quite high. This, and the fact that you have actually requested membership, although this will be put forward to the rest of the existing members for a vote, also stands in your favour for inclusion. We also have another male in our Club (Dr Jim) so including a second man will balance out our group nicely. Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as far as Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership goes without saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience around fools and acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability to spot a fake or an asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving someone a good lashing when she has a mind to. Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly with our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I am virtually positive you will make the cut. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .
Yes, that's what I was referring to. If a large multinational corporation were to hold a meeting overseas and people were being escorted to the airport to be shipped back to the States with assorted psychosomatic disorders it would qualify as a scandal. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: why was it scandal racked? I thought its main claim to fame was all the heavy unstressing that went on there. From: Seraphita s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: We know the Beatles carried on with their TM . . .  Have you noticed that macho attitude some TMers strike where they claim they can meditate anywhere regardless of ambient noises - most infamously at a scandal-racked teacher-training course in Mallorca (?) when there were explosions going off in the out-of-season hotel car park during renovation work! I could never manage that trick - I need relative quiet. A few years back I was doing my evening session on bonfire night (November 5th) here in UK and about half-way through the entire street decided to set off their fireworks at the same time. Jesus! Since then I always meditate before darkness falls on that date. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Many people imagine recording studios or places where music is played as noisy places in their minds. When in fact, they are usually the opposite much more of the time then there is sound. (As you mentioned above about the guys seeking the studio to authentic Himalayan silence, is true.) Where there is music practiced and recorded, these are some of the best places to seek the silence. Kind of like the gap. People imagine these places as big party atmospheres with no noise going to be heard of their own, or forced into hearing other sounds that they did not click on the stereo, tv, or mp3 ipod. Total silence to total sound filling a place. So magical, both experiences. Thanks for bringing that up. I have had that subject thrown in my face before in similar situations of conversation, and it is hard to explain sometimes, good point to share. :)
Fw: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Mr. Price, Bob, I have no words to express a proper response http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvVSTmfQJyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvVSTmfQJyk except, I have a current passport, will travel. Dubai (Silently chuckle internally, at the plastic evergreens in the malls? What about illegal kissing on the beach? I can abide to respect these.) flights will at least give us metal cutlery for dinner, and that is a step up from here, a little bit more civilized, don't you think? The Netherlands, I hear there are Unicorns. Yeah, unicorns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG5l8qyY7LI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG5l8qyY7LI this can keep me humble, while I wait. Death happens everyday, life is for the living. :) Yours truly, -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Since death is all we can count on (if taxes are not your thing, there's always Dubai or life as an illegal alien in the Netherlands) I think the key to picking a female householder is finding one with a shared belief in unicorns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCz0mLFsSFE From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  Dear Bob, Greetings to you and yours. Cherishing this moment to share this message. I mischievously piled on top of Ann's post last evening due to similar requirements of need, sleep and dreams. Please give the wife my well wishes, and please tell her not to worry about anything, because, even though John was married, he too had fans  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLvTq6FdOj4     and may the post limits be dropped forever, and may the members monitor each other, just like the buddy system on a course, of course. -Obbajeeba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54sZ8TFFAmY Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
That would be things are not... From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Thank you Bob. Smile. My favorite line in the article you sent is: A work is created artistically so that its perception is impeded and the greatest possible effect is produced through the slowness of the perception. The author attempts to demystify..but remember what Rilke says: Things are no all so comprehensible and expressible as one would mostly have us believe; most events are inexpressible, taking place in a realm which no word has ever entered, and more inexpressible than all else are works of art, mysterious existences, the life of which, while ours passes away endures. Do stop by the coffee stand and hang out in the parking lot now and again. Love, Emily From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnb7-nVKzLE From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:08:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Bob, welcome back - are you here to restore musicality? Raise the bar a bit? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Thank you Bob. Smile. My favorite line in the article you sent is: A work is created artistically so that its perception is impeded and the greatest possible effect is produced through the slowness of the perception. The author attempts to demystify..but remember what Rilke says: Things are no all so comprehensible and expressible as one would mostly have us believe; most events are inexpressible, taking place in a realm which no word has ever entered, and more inexpressible than all else are works of art, mysterious existences, the life of which, while ours passes away endures. Do stop by the coffee stand and hang out in the parking lot now and again. Love, Emily From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnb7-nVKzLE From: emilymae.reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 10:08:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) Bob, welcome back - are you here to restore musicality? Raise the bar a bit? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. Old Lady is still having memory problems From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Not a year, can't count? According to the archives, your last post here as iranitea was in August 2012; your last post as zarzari was January 2012. Was there another name I'm forgetting in between then and now?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Most so-called Atlantic Salmon is farmed - fish packed in pens, pumped full of steroids and antibiotics, so they can grow to adult size in a fraction of the time. I am anything but a foodie, though I wanted to share that tidbit with you. The dangers of eating farmed fish is becoming obvious. Authorities in Russia and Norway now advice to eat that fish maximum twice a week and warns it should not being eaten by pregnant women and children. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week  Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
[FairfieldLife] Thomas Hübl: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 08/20/2013
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Uzes
Ah-so From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Uzes The town of Uzès, pronounced ee-oo-ZESS, NOT, as some who don't like me much might suggest, ooozes :-), is the small town closest to where I'm staying. See http://uk.uzes-tourisme.com/ , and if you want to fully see the horror, decadence, and depravity of the place Turq would choose to go on vacation, watch the video at that link. I wasn't going to bother writing anything to FFL for the next couple of weeks, just to see how crazy the stalkers get when the object of their hatred is withdrawn from them, but this cafe is so pleasant that I figured I'd write a little something anyway, just to share my overall SOB (state of bliss), and thus piss them off and encourage them to reveal who they really are and what motivates them in life. :-) Me, I'm enjoying what motivates me in life -- sitting in a nice sidewalk cafe, watching people (Uzès is famous for being home to some of the most lovely women in France, both French and ex-pats who have settled here), and rapping about Odd Things That Occur To Me. Today's Odd Thing may be a replay, in that it's a personal theory of mine that I may have mentioned here before, and I know that may piss off Those Who Didn't Get It First Time I Mentioned It, but frankly, if they're that dense, why should I worry about them? It's Turq's Judo Theory Of How Pretty Much Everything Works. The science of Judo (a sportified version of Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, and other Japanese martial arts), is all based on one basic idea -- spend most or all of your energy pushing *against* something, and you render yourself off balance, and thus make yourself easy meat for anyone who knows something about the martial arts. Think about it. If you're pushing *against* something or someone, you are *by definition* off balance. All that your opponent has to do do defeat you is to step out of the way, and your own off-balance momentum causes you to fall flat on your face. That's it, the whole theory, in case you're already bored, and want to stop reading. :-) For those who aren't clueful enough to get it without further explanation, this theory covers the mechanics of behavior in battle, in social activities like politics, and in social networking activities like...uh...FFL. In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own behavior. :-) Anyway, that's my
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
I've heard one doc say that one shouldn't eat tuna, which I love, more than 2 or 3 times a year! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Most so-called Atlantic Salmon is farmed - fish packed in pens, pumped full of steroids and antibiotics, so they can grow to adult size in a fraction of the time. I am anything but a foodie, though I wanted to share that tidbit with you. The dangers of eating farmed fish is becoming obvious. Authorities in Russia and Norway now advice to eat that fish maximum twice a week and warns it should not being eaten by pregnant women and children. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week  Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Ah ha haso funny. Whenever you need to do any penance Bob, stop on by. Diligence is a virtue, after all. Continuing luck in your adventures (if you're like me, it takes awhile to leave, so don't let me push you back to real life too early). From: Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.  :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with: Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual (or phonebook) writing a creative act. As he makes clear above, Voldemort is a writer of manuals, and, IMO, when he attempts anything more than that, the word hack pretty much nails what he becomes. For something to be considered art it's imperative that it have the ability to defamiliarize* by making the familiar, unfamiliar and *new*; Voldemort's posts completely fail at this. OTOH, Judy's choice of the word hack, to describe Voldemort, is a great example of effective defamiliarization---it gave me a new experience of something that was familiar about him. I also must agree with Judy that irony is the life blood of creative writing (writing phonebooks, not as much), and reading Voldemort's attempts at writing creatively ---when he is so handicapped in the irony department (narcissism will do that), is like watching someone with no hands attempt to show off his penmanship (no My left foot jokes please). He also appears to be unable to go beyond cliche and what Martin Amis calls heard words, which make his offerings, on this forum at least, quite artless. Anyone who considers Voldemort a creative writer might consider rereading Hemingway (if you are interested in understanding some of Kerouac's limitations, who Voldemort attempts to emulate---without demonstrating any of Kerouac's talent as an artist). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abc819rT6wI The film The Master was an example for me of the way art can make the familiar *new*; the whole film delivered artistically, but the scene where Lancaster Dodd (Philip Seymour Hoffman) Processes Freddie Quell (Joaquin Phoenix)---for the first time, felt in some way like the first time I meditated; my experience of the scene was familiar and at the same time completely new; part of it was the suggestiveness of Dodd's voice, but more was the scene's transition from
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Perhaps Lilo flipping someone the bird?? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Thank you, Ann. Perhaps a picture of Bob, in SPANX, would help sway the judges? ? Also, a minor point of order - I believe that *Ravi* is ALSO a charter member of the MGC? And judging from those fitted shirts, I'd say SPANX are um, familiar to him. Oh YES! Ravi is indeed a member, and a gold member as well. My mean girl mind left me for a moment when I was writing that post to Bob (does he do that to all the women?). At any rate, my apologies to our ultimate MG Ravi who is an essential element of our charming group. And while on the subject, do you have any ideas for a logo for the club? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. Â And to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need to be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little special consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are quite high. This, and the fact that you have actually requested membership, although this will be put forward to the rest of the existing members for a vote, also stands in your favour for inclusion. We also have another male in our Club (Dr Jim) so including a second man will balance out our group nicely. Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as far as Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership goes without saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience around fools and acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability to spot a fake or an asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving someone a good lashing when she has a mind to. Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly with our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I am virtually positive you will make the cut. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.ÃÂ ÃÂ :-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with:ÃÂ Is Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative writer, art seems conspicuously absent from his contributions; this might be less true if you consider manual
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
Very much a first world problem! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I've heard one doc say that one shouldn't eat tuna, which I love, more than 2 or 3 times a year! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Most so-called Atlantic Salmon is farmed - fish packed in pens, pumped full of steroids and antibiotics, so they can grow to adult size in a fraction of the time. I am anything but a foodie, though I wanted to share that tidbit with you. The dangers of eating farmed fish is becoming obvious. Authorities in Russia and Norway now advice to eat that fish maximum twice a week and warns it should not being eaten by pregnant women and children. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week àMike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
yeah, a lot of people call him that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... wrote: Ah-so From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Uzes  The town of Uzès, pronounced ee-oo-ZESS, NOT, as some who don't like me much might suggest, ooozes :-), is the small town closest to where I'm staying. See http://uk.uzes-tourisme.com/ , and if you want to fully see the horror, decadence, and depravity of the place Turq would choose to go on vacation, watch the video at that link. I wasn't going to bother writing anything to FFL for the next couple of weeks, just to see how crazy the stalkers get when the object of their hatred is withdrawn from them, but this cafe is so pleasant that I figured I'd write a little something anyway, just to share my overall SOB (state of bliss), and thus piss them off and encourage them to reveal who they really are and what motivates them in life. :-) Me, I'm enjoying what motivates me in life -- sitting in a nice sidewalk cafe, watching people (Uzès is famous for being home to some of the most lovely women in France, both French and ex-pats who have settled here), and rapping about Odd Things That Occur To Me. Today's Odd Thing may be a replay, in that it's a personal theory of mine that I may have mentioned here before, and I know that may piss off Those Who Didn't Get It First Time I Mentioned It, but frankly, if they're that dense, why should I worry about them? It's Turq's Judo Theory Of How Pretty Much Everything Works. The science of Judo (a sportified version of Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, and other Japanese martial arts), is all based on one basic idea -- spend most or all of your energy pushing *against* something, and you render yourself off balance, and thus make yourself easy meat for anyone who knows something about the martial arts. Think about it. If you're pushing *against* something or someone, you are *by definition* off balance. All that your opponent has to do do defeat you is to step out of the way, and your own off-balance momentum causes you to fall flat on your face. That's it, the whole theory, in case you're already bored, and want to stop reading. :-) For those who aren't clueful enough to get it without further explanation, this theory covers the mechanics of behavior in battle, in social activities like politics, and in social networking activities like...uh...FFL. In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) can't think of anything else to do. That
[FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
Let's go hunting! Turkey meat! [:D] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30IjVts73M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s30IjVts73M --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: yeah, a lot of people call him that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: Ah-so From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Uzes  The town of Uzès, pronounced ee-oo-ZESS, NOT, as some who don't like me much might suggest, ooozes :-), is the small town closest to where I'm staying. See http://uk.uzes-tourisme.com/ , and if you want to fully see the horror, decadence, and depravity of the place Turq would choose to go on vacation, watch the video at that link. I wasn't going to bother writing anything to FFL for the next couple of weeks, just to see how crazy the stalkers get when the object of their hatred is withdrawn from them, but this cafe is so pleasant that I figured I'd write a little something anyway, just to share my overall SOB (state of bliss), and thus piss them off and encourage them to reveal who they really are and what motivates them in life. :-) Me, I'm enjoying what motivates me in life -- sitting in a nice sidewalk cafe, watching people (Uzès is famous for being home to some of the most lovely women in France, both French and ex-pats who have settled here), and rapping about Odd Things That Occur To Me. Today's Odd Thing may be a replay, in that it's a personal theory of mine that I may have mentioned here before, and I know that may piss off Those Who Didn't Get It First Time I Mentioned It, but frankly, if they're that dense, why should I worry about them? It's Turq's Judo Theory Of How Pretty Much Everything Works. The science of Judo (a sportified version of Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, and other Japanese martial arts), is all based on one basic idea -- spend most or all of your energy pushing *against* something, and you render yourself off balance, and thus make yourself easy meat for anyone who knows something about the martial arts. Think about it. If you're pushing *against* something or someone, you are *by definition* off balance. All that your opponent has to do do defeat you is to step out of the way, and your own off-balance momentum causes you to fall flat on your face. That's it, the whole theory, in case you're already bored, and want to stop reading. :-) For those who aren't clueful enough to get it without further explanation, this theory covers the mechanics of behavior in battle, in social activities like politics, and in social networking activities like...uh...FFL. In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Such a starry eyed optimist you are, Share! He has emailed me privately that he is having trouble squeezing his considerable girth into the latest line of Men's SPANX, the Kevlar-reinforced, Gut Buster 5000 series (not to be confused with the Butt Guster 2000 series, which is worn lower on the torso). So, dream on, fair one, but know the truth. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, Ravi is young and probably has no need of Spanx. Yet! From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)  Thank you, Ann. Perhaps a picture of Bob, in SPANX, would help sway the judges? ? Also, a minor point of order - I believe that *Ravi* is ALSO a charter member of the MGC? And judging from those fitted shirts, I'd say SPANX are um, familiar to him. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: I can only hope this means Emily and I are being considered for full membership in the mean girls, because, frankly, we're finding being on the boring list---well, you know, pretty boring; don't get us wrong, we're flattered to be on any list in Voldemort's book of lists, we just think we've earned consideration for a higher calling. àAnd to prove my personal commitment, I've ordered my first SPANX Men's starter kit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK0QVBi112A This is a good start Bob. And although to be an OFFICIAL member you need to be participating at FFL on a regular basis you may be given a little special consideration given the fact that the QUALITY of your posts are quite high. This, and the fact that you have actually requested membership, although this will be put forward to the rest of the existing members for a vote, also stands in your favour for inclusion. We also have another male in our Club (Dr Jim) so including a second man will balance out our group nicely. Yes, all in all, I could see you fitting in quite nicely. Of course as far as Emily goes, she is a very subtle type of MG but her membership goes without saying. She has all the qualities necessary: life experience around fools and acquired knowledge of how to deal with them, an ability to spot a fake or an asshole at 100 yards and a tongue capable of giving someone a good lashing when she has a mind to. Thanks again for your interest and we'll be getting back to you shortly with our vote result. However, don't cancel the SPANX yet, even though I am virtually positive you will make the cut. From: Ann awoelflebater@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 7:29:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment) May I just say that I can go to bed tonight happy? In fact, I'm positively giddy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@ wrote: From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 7:58:43 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Prerequisites for Enlightenment And for your information, I dash off things here and send them without editing them because most of the time I'm just having fun with them. That, and the audience I'm writing for doesn't meet my standards for deserving edited copy -- they're not paying me. For paying customers, I edit. Non-paying customers who don't like my unedited posts can go suck eggs. Non-paying editors who get off on editing my posts for me should pay *me*, for providing them with something to do on those days when they're off work and thus not busy...uh...editing.ÃâàÃâà:-) ** I was thrilled with last weeks *posting without limits*, it gave me a sense of power and control knowing that I could respond to any and all of the 1500+ posts that I just finished reading. One of our illustrious contributors suggested that we might consider a *Best of FFL* going forward, and with that in mind I set myself the difficult task of picking my favorite subject for the week; it was a challenge (how could anyone best Share's attempt to prove she speaks in tongues), but a decision had to be made and I'm going with:ÃâàIs Voldemort a hack? When I read Voldemort's posts I ask myself: Where's the art?. For someone with his considerable output on FFL, who puts so much effort into selling himself to us as a creative
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ravi Chivukula Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 12:42 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess Well dear Rory - this is a post from Ammachi free speech zone Yahoo group - Amma's deluded, deceived devotees are keeping me busy for the last week and I'm having a lot of fun. Currently the archives are not public, because it so happened Amma's devotees indulged in personal attacks - character attacks, and the owner/moderator Jim was absent for that entire duration (last July/Aug to June this year). I was also banned after the interim moderator Rick handed over the moderatorship to some pro-Amma fanatic (don't ask me why). I didn’t want to do it any more.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week
I think it is important for wise people to stay informed and not stick their heads in the sand. I used attend a monthly jyotish get together and at one meeting when we were discussing the Lewinsky affair a woman asked who is Monica Lewinsky? We all dropped our jaws and looked astonished. She said she never paid attention to news. When wise folks do nothing then evil triumphs. Mike says we may all need to the southern hemisphere. For years I've had this tune rattling around in my head like the old movie or drive-in concession stand ad let's go out to the lobby but let's all move down to South America. At least they have better health care. But Ruppert also likes to discuss consciousness which I suppose because I only had time to listen to the first half of his show he does in the second half since he was segueing to that. And we could do samyama to morph into creatures on which radioactivity has no effect. On 08/20/2013 05:23 AM, Share Long wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sharing Japan's Ring of Fire, domelike shockwave
Some old blazing sun, some old fiery hill, but every moment of this day never was, never will again be. What is night to that? From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:33 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sharing Japan's Ring of Fire, domelike shockwave LL-linkable links may have problem at FFL the Kagoshima weather webcam, the 'magic mirror' of mediated augmented reality, giving you visual information about the environment of Sakurajima Volcano seen from Kagoshima seems to work fine. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/354254 You may watch the change from night and day by opening this post whenever and wherever you like... Just in case you want to sight a UFO live webcam feed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpNx8R7Gs3o or just in case you do not want to catch or frighten a nightcrawler Where this poor one may lay his wrongs away, And sickness may forget to weep? Isn't our right in the Baths of Night Body and soul to steep? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, I do find your not remembering his most recent name a little funny as in ironic because I remember how you called me on not recognizing khazana by his writing style. Well, since there's no connection between remembering his most recent handle (he's used six of them since I've been here) and recognizing his writing style, this seems rather an odd observation. And in any case, khazana isn't his most recent handle. His most recent handle is navashok, and he last posted here using that handle on March 29 of this year. It was when he first posted as navashok that I had to clue you in as to who he was, BTW. I didn't say anything about his writing style, however. Good Lord, I'm actually feeling some nostalgia! Jeez! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Not a year, can't count? According to the archives, your last post here as iranitea was in August 2012; your last post as zarzari was January 2012. Was there another name I'm forgetting in between then and now?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
Alternative endings are fun! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO1rMeYnOmM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO1rMeYnOmM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Since death is all we can count on (if taxes are not your thing, there's always Dubai or life as an illegal alien in the Netherlands) I think the key to picking a female householder is finding one with a shared belief in unicorns.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCz0mLFsSFE From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  Dear Bob, Greetings to you and yours. Cherishing this moment to share this message. I mischievously piled on top of Ann's post last evening due to similar requirements of need, sleep and dreams. Please give the wife my well wishes, and please tell her not to worry about anything, because, even though John was married, he too had fans  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLvTq6FdOj4     and may the post limits be dropped forever, and may the members monitor each other, just like the buddy system on a course, of course. -Obbajeeba http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54sZ8TFFAmY Â
[FairfieldLife] Guess who showed up in the Dome?
Natalie Zea, well known for her roles on HBO's Hung and FX's Justified. No, not the Fairfield domes, but the CBS show Under the Dome, the Stephen King offering this year. The plot thickens.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week
Right dude! Eat a *little* contaminated Salmon twice a week, do samyama on *glowing* and we'll evolve to be radioactive tolerant.Simple as that! From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week I think it is important for wise people to stay informed and not stick their heads in the sand. I used attend a monthly jyotish get together and at one meeting when we were discussing the Lewinsky affair a woman asked who is Monica Lewinsky? We all dropped our jaws and looked astonished. She said she never paid attention to news. When wise folks do nothing then evil triumphs. Mike says we may all need to the southern hemisphere. For years I've had this tune rattling around in my head like the old movie or drive-in concession stand ad let's go out to the lobby but let's all move down to South America. At least they have better health care. But Ruppert also likes to discuss consciousness which I suppose because I only had time to listen to the first half of his show he does in the second half since he was segueing to that. And we could do samyama to morph into creatures on which radioactivity has no effect. On 08/20/2013 05:23 AM, Share Long wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu mailto:noozguru%40sbcglobal.net To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com; mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week
Bhairitu, I've definitely become more informed since participating in the Funny Farm Lounge which is a bit of an irony IMHO. Prior to that I only saw the yahoo news headlines. Oh, and daily newsletters from Reader Supported News. My family used to surprise me with news bits but not so much any more. Anyway, they are staunch Republicans so one aims not to spoil Christmas with political conversations! I know one woman, an Amma devotee, who is planning to retire in Costa Rico, another who is considering Mexico. As for me, I'm still trying to figure out if we're headed for a broiler or a deep freeze situation. But since Ravi's post about the tiny house, I've been contemplating a mobile home. The palm leaf reader who comes to FF twice and year and whom I've consulted once, is famous for saying: what good is vastu if you're under water? He tells everyone to move to 2000 ft or higher in order to avoid the coming deluge. Hey, maybe it's all about lifeboats (-: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week I think it is important for wise people to stay informed and not stick their heads in the sand. I used attend a monthly jyotish get together and at one meeting when we were discussing the Lewinsky affair a woman asked who is Monica Lewinsky? We all dropped our jaws and looked astonished. She said she never paid attention to news. When wise folks do nothing then evil triumphs. Mike says we may all need to the southern hemisphere. For years I've had this tune rattling around in my head like the old movie or drive-in concession stand ad let's go out to the lobby but let's all move down to South America. At least they have better health care. But Ruppert also likes to discuss consciousness which I suppose because I only had time to listen to the first half of his show he does in the second half since he was segueing to that. And we could do samyama to morph into creatures on which radioactivity has no effect. On 08/20/2013 05:23 AM, Share Long wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using potentially harmful language. In this I prefer to err on the side of being too gentle than too harsh even if I have to fake it in public and work on it in private or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence of that here on FFL! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't something to be done casually or for fun. Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I have read recently that comes close to your intensity. You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. Did you see this one, for instance? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long afterward, he decided he was going to go back to not responding to his enemies. Oh, BTW, below Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, which I'm not sure you saw either.) Here's another (also with my response at the top): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your method of responding to people developed in response to some less than pleasant events, or it could a family characteristic. Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous obnoxiousness. (You can call that a less than pleasant event if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what you had in mind.) Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside from the question I asked about percentages, I do think you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, do you think yourself that you are this way or not? When I think it's appropriate, yes indeed. (The difference between you and me in that regard is that I'm honest about it.) Do the people on the forum who are generally favourable to you think you are confrontational and accusatory? There would seem to be a range of opinion on this issue. I guess you've thought more about it than I have. It's not something I'm concerned about. You probably should ask the folks you have in mind. I would assume that those who thought you were would tend to be more favourable in Barry's direction, and those who felt you were not would not be favourable to Barry, and even if they thought you were confrontational and accusatory, would feel it was justified as you championed ideas and an outlook on life they were more comfortable with. I have no idea what your point is here. I think people react to Barry as individuals, not because of how I react to him. Maybe you're the exception, though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
Dear Sister Share, Tea leaves are for dumping back into the garden. Moving to 2000' altitude, will not protect from a coming deluge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNIKLZPd0UE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNIKLZPd0UE A Mobile home is fine. A one room one, is not really practical, for if there was any damage to happen to that one room from inside or outside predicaments, it means one would have to find another place to live while repairs are underway. Better off moving into a one room cave, for that matter. Not in Yellowstone, though. Better off with a Prevost. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Bhairitu, I've definitely become more informed since participating in the Funny Farm Lounge which is a bit of an irony IMHO. Prior to that I only saw the yahoo news headlines. Oh, and daily newsletters from Reader Supported News. My family used to surprise me with news bits but not so much any more. Anyway, they are staunch Republicans so one aims not to spoil Christmas with political conversations! I know one woman, an Amma devotee, who is planning to retire in Costa Rico, another who is considering Mexico. As for me, I'm still trying to figure out if we're headed for a broiler or a deep freeze situation. But since Ravi's post about the tiny house, I've been contemplating a mobile home. The palm leaf reader who comes to FF twice and year and whom I've consulted once, is famous for saying: what good is vastu if you're under water? He tells everyone to move to 2000 ft or higher in order to avoid the coming deluge. Hey, maybe it's all about lifeboats (-: From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week  I think it is important for wise people to stay informed and not stick their heads in the sand. I used attend a monthly jyotish get together and at one meeting when we were discussing the Lewinsky affair a woman asked who is Monica Lewinsky? We all dropped our jaws and looked astonished. She said she never paid attention to news. When wise folks do nothing then evil triumphs. Mike says we may all need to the southern hemisphere. For years I've had this tune rattling around in my head like the old movie or drive-in concession stand ad let's go out to the lobby but let's all move down to South America. At least they have better health care. But Ruppert also likes to discuss consciousness which I suppose because I only had time to listen to the first half of his show he does in the second half since he was segueing to that. And we could do samyama to morph into creatures on which radioactivity has no effect. On 08/20/2013 05:23 AM, Share Long wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Well like Xeno says, I'm more intuitive than linear in my thinking. I think that's why it all seems connected to me. But thanks for supplying more details. Amazing to me that you remember all that. From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy, I do find your not remembering his most recent name a little funny as in ironic because I remember how you called me on not recognizing khazana by his writing style. Well, since there's no connection between remembering his most recent handle (he's used six of them since I've been here) and recognizing his writing style, this seems rather an odd observation. And in any case, khazana isn't his most recent handle. His most recent handle is navashok, and he last posted here using that handle on March 29 of this year. It was when he first posted as navashok that I had to clue you in as to who he was, BTW. I didn't say anything about his writing style, however. Good Lord, I'm actually feeling some nostalgia! Jeez! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: Not a year, can't count? According to the archives, your last post here as iranitea was in August 2012; your last post as zarzari was January 2012. Was there another name I'm forgetting in between then and now?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
Fuck that! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using potentially harmful language. In this I prefer to err on the side of being too gentle than too harsh even if I have to fake it in public and work on it in private or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence of that here on FFL! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't something to be done casually or for fun. Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I have read recently that comes close to your intensity. You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. Did you see this one, for instance? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long afterward, he decided he was going to go back to not responding to his enemies. Oh, BTW, below Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, which I'm not sure you saw either.) Here's another (also with my response at the top): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your method of responding to people developed in response to some less than pleasant events, or it could a family characteristic. Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous obnoxiousness. (You can call that a less than pleasant event if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what you had in mind.) Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside from the question I asked about percentages, I do think you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, do you think yourself that you are this way or not? When I think it's appropriate, yes indeed. (The difference between you and me in that regard is that I'm honest about it.) Do the people on the forum who are generally favourable to you think you are confrontational and accusatory? There would seem to be a range of opinion on this issue. I guess you've thought more about it than I have. It's not something I'm concerned about. You probably should ask the folks you have in mind. I would assume that those who thought you were would tend to be more favourable in Barry's direction, and those who felt you were not would not be favourable to Barry, and even if they thought you were confrontational and accusatory, would feel it was justified as you championed ideas and an outlook on life they were more
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
dear Sister Obba, do you by any chance have stock in Prevost company? Anyway, let me know if you hear of any good caves opening up, inside plumbing preferred. Never knew that about tea leaves, must experiment, thank you. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week Dear Sister Share, Tea leaves are for dumping back into the garden. Moving to 2000' altitude, will not protect from a coming deluge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNIKLZPd0UE A Mobile home is fine. A one room one, is not really practical, for if there was any damage to happen to that one room from inside or outside predicaments, it means one would have to find another place to live while repairs are underway. Better off moving into a one room cave, for that matter. Not in Yellowstone, though. Better off with a Prevost. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Bhairitu, I've definitely become more informed since participating in the Funny Farm Lounge which is a bit of an irony IMHO. Prior to that I only saw the yahoo news headlines. Oh, and daily newsletters from Reader Supported News. My family used to surprise me with news bits but not so much any more. Anyway, they are staunch Republicans so one aims not to spoil Christmas with political conversations! I know one woman, an Amma devotee, who is planning to retire in Costa Rico, another who is considering Mexico. As for me, I'm still trying to figure out if we're headed for a broiler or a deep freeze situation. But since Ravi's post about the tiny house, I've been contemplating a mobile home. The palm leaf reader who comes to FF twice and year and whom I've consulted once, is famous for saying: what good is vastu if you're under water? He tells everyone to move to 2000 ft or higher in order to avoid the coming deluge. Hey, maybe it's all about lifeboats (-: From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week  I think it is important for wise people to stay informed and not stick their heads in the sand. I used attend a monthly jyotish get together and at one meeting when we were discussing the Lewinsky affair a woman asked who is Monica Lewinsky? We all dropped our jaws and looked astonished. She said she never paid attention to news. When wise folks do nothing then evil triumphs. Mike says we may all need to the southern hemisphere. For years I've had this tune rattling around in my head like the old movie or drive-in concession stand ad let's go out to the lobby but let's all move down to South America. At least they have better health care. But Ruppert also likes to discuss consciousness which I suppose because I only had time to listen to the first half of his show he does in the second half since he was segueing to that. And we could do samyama to morph into creatures on which radioactivity has no effect. On 08/20/2013 05:23 AM, Share Long wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
yes, yes dear Doc, whatever floats your boat! From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi Fuck that! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using potentially harmful language. In this I prefer to err on the side of being too gentle than too harsh even if I have to fake it in public and work on it in private or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence of that here on FFL! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't something to be done casually or for fun. Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I have read recently that comes close to your intensity. You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. Did you see this one, for instance? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long afterward, he decided he was going to go back to not responding to his enemies. Oh, BTW, below Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, which I'm not sure you saw either.) Here's another (also with my response at the top): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your method of responding to people developed in response to some less than pleasant events, or it could a family characteristic. Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous obnoxiousness. (You can call that a less than pleasant event if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what you had in mind.) Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside from the question I asked about percentages, I do think you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, do you think yourself that you are this way or not? When I think it's appropriate, yes indeed. (The difference between you and me in that regard is that I'm honest about it.) Do the people on the forum who are generally favourable to you think you are confrontational and accusatory? There would seem to be a range of opinion on this issue. I guess you've thought more about it than I have. It's not something I'm concerned about. You probably should ask the folks you have in mind. I would assume that those who thought you were would
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. Old Lady is still having memory problems You mean Share? She forgot navashok, even though that was the handle I had to clue her in about when she thought you were a newbie. Poopsie, when you've used six different handles, you have to expect that folks aren't going to remember them all. But then that's why you keep switching handles in the first place, to cover your tracks. I finally had to make a list for myself. That's how I remembered navashok when I thought to check the list.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
(Wo)Man Overboard!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: yes, yes dear Doc, whatever floats your boat! From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  Fuck that! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using potentially harmful language. In this I prefer to err on the side of being too gentle than too harsh even if I have to fake it in public and work on it in private or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi àSometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence of that here on FFL! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi Ãâà--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't something to be done casually or for fun. Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I have read recently that comes close to your intensity. You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. Did you see this one, for instance? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long afterward, he decided he was going to go back to not responding to his enemies. Oh, BTW, below Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, which I'm not sure you saw either.) Here's another (also with my response at the top): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your method of responding to people developed in response to some less than pleasant events, or it could a family characteristic. Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous obnoxiousness. (You can call that a less than pleasant event if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what you had in mind.) Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside from the question I asked about percentages, I do think you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, do you think yourself that you are this way or not? When I think it's appropriate, yes indeed. (The difference between you and me in that regard is that I'm honest about it.) Do the people on the forum who are generally favourable to you think you are confrontational and accusatory? There would seem to be a range of opinion on this issue. I guess
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
The strangest thing about this iranitea and his ever morphing name, he is concerned about the past on FFL, as his name reflects his past posts with other names, but yet it is not longer the same, name, he appears to want to correct what he no longer uses as his handle, yet makes sure the readers know who he was, even though most do not know that was he? Confusing this man of confused identity. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. Old Lady is still having memory problems You mean Share? She forgot navashok, even though that was the handle I had to clue her in about when she thought you were a newbie. Poopsie, when you've used six different handles, you have to expect that folks aren't going to remember them all. But then that's why you keep switching handles in the first place, to cover your tracks. I finally had to make a list for myself. That's how I remembered navashok when I thought to check the list.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
Well, surf's up! why stay in boat?! cowabunga! From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi (Wo)Man Overboard!! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: yes, yes dear Doc, whatever floats your boat! From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  Fuck that! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using potentially harmful language. In this I prefer to err on the side of being too gentle than too harsh even if I have to fake it in public and work on it in private or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence of that here on FFL! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't something to be done casually or for fun. Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I have read recently that comes close to your intensity. You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. Did you see this one, for instance? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long afterward, he decided he was going to go back to not responding to his enemies. Oh, BTW, below Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, which I'm not sure you saw either.) Here's another (also with my response at the top): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your method of responding to people developed in response to some less than pleasant events, or it could a family characteristic. Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous obnoxiousness. (You can call that a less than pleasant event if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what you had in mind.) Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside from the question I asked about percentages, I do think you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, do you think yourself that you are this way or not? When I think it's appropriate,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
Very very much! http://rt.com/op-edge/chernobyl-fukushima-crisis-catastrophe-715/ On 08/20/2013 08:31 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Very much a first world problem! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: I've heard one doc say that one shouldn't eat tuna, which I love, more than 2 or 3 times a year! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_reply%40yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Most so-called Atlantic Salmon is farmed - fish packed in pens, pumped full of steroids and antibiotics, so they can grow to adult size in a fraction of the time. I am anything but a foodie, though I wanted to share that tidbit with you. The dangers of eating farmed fish is becoming obvious. Authorities in Russia and Norway now advice to eat that fish maximum twice a week and warns it should not being eaten by pregnant women and children. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Ã, Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
Huh? If you had a list, why did you forget khazana? Ok, I just remembered Richard saying: asking all the important questions! Where is that lounger? Has unlimited posting scared him away? RICHARD! From: authfriend authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. Old Lady is still having memory problems You mean Share? She forgot navashok, even though that was the handle I had to clue her in about when she thought you were a newbie. Poopsie, when you've used six different handles, you have to expect that folks aren't going to remember them all. But then that's why you keep switching handles in the first place, to cover your tracks. I finally had to make a list for myself. That's how I remembered navashok when I thought to check the list.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid
What? No rusty old cars on blocks in the front yard or litters under the front porch? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/texas-swat-team-conducts-_n_3764951.html
[FairfieldLife] Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/texas-swat-team-conducts-_n_376\ 4951.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week
Dear Sister Share, No stock in that company, just a product that if one has to resell, keeps some value and also lasts a long time, handles earthquakes pretty well, and travels well, if need be. I am in for stability, by nature; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1f8m0EulhM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1f8m0EulhM a Prevost can move away from areas which are evolving. If I see a cave, although none around, I'll let you know. Throw the tea leaves in the garden and walk away happy, knowing you made the daisies happy. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: dear Sister Obba, do you by any chance have stock in Prevost company? Anyway, let me know if you hear of any good caves opening up, inside plumbing preferred. Never knew that about tea leaves, must experiment, thank you. From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lifeboat Hour this week  Dear Sister Share, Tea leaves are for dumping back into the garden. Moving to 2000' altitude, will not protect from a coming deluge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNIKLZPd0UE A Mobile home is fine. A one room one, is not really practical, for if there was any damage to happen to that one room from inside or outside predicaments, it means one would have to find another place to live while repairs are underway. Better off moving into a one room cave, for that matter. Not in Yellowstone, though. Better off with a Prevost.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Bhairitu, I've definitely become more informed since participating in the Funny Farm Lounge which is a bit of an irony IMHO. Prior to that I only saw the yahoo news headlines. Oh, and daily newsletters from Reader Supported News. My family used to surprise me with news bits but not so much any more. Anyway, they are staunch Republicans so one aims not to spoil Christmas with political conversations! I know one woman, an Amma devotee, who is planning to retire in Costa Rico, another who is considering Mexico. As for me, I'm still trying to figure out if we're headed for a broiler or a deep freeze situation. But since Ravi's post about the tiny house,àI've been contemplating a mobile home. The palm leaf reader who comes to FF twice and year and whom I've consulted once, is famous for saying: what good is vastu if you're under water? He tells everyone to move to 2000 ft or higher in order to avoid the coming deluge. Hey, maybe it's all about lifeboats (-: From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week àI think it is important for wise people to stay informed and not stick their heads in the sand. I used attend a monthly jyotish get together and at one meeting when we were discussing the Lewinsky affair a woman asked who is Monica Lewinsky? We all dropped our jaws and looked astonished. She said she never paid attention to news. When wise folks do nothing then evil triumphs. Mike says we may all need to the southern hemisphere. For years I've had this tune rattling around in my head like the old movie or drive-in concession stand ad let's go out to the lobby but let's all move down to South America. At least they have better health care. But Ruppert also likes to discuss consciousness which I suppose because I only had time to listen to the first half of his show he does in the second half since he was segueing to that. And we could do samyama to morph into creatures on which radioactivity has no effect. On 08/20/2013 05:23 AM, Share Long wrote: Well noozguru, I've stopped eating salmon from the west coast, or any fish from there actually. And I've heard that the price of it has plummeted. And then I saw a news article claiming to list the five fish that are still safe to eat! That article indicated to me that *they* know that we know what Fukushima hath wrought. though I think to be really honest I must say, what we have wrought. Don't we all have to take some responsibility for it? Anyway, I haven't listened to the radio show yet but read the short essay, stopped breathing momentarily at the bit about the Tokyo aquifer. My answer to all this is to meditate and pursue my own healing as best as I can. Is there something more to be done, do you think? Thank you for posting. From: Bhairitu noozguru@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Lifeboat Hour this week Mike Ruppert reports the latest on Fukushima. Enjpy! http://prn.fm/2013/08/18/lifeboat-hour-081813/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Texas Police Hit Organic Farm With Massive SWAT Raid
Texas is like another planet. Must be a horrible place to live. ;-) Good article on Willy's neighbor though: http://www.esquire.com/features/alex-jones-interview-0913 On 08/20/2013 09:40 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/texas-swat-team-conducts-_n_376\ 4951.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/texas-swat-team-conducts-_n_3764951.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. Old Lady is still having memory problems You mean Share? She forgot navashok, even though that was the handle I had to clue her in about when she thought you were a newbie. Poopsie, when you've used six different handles, you have to expect that folks aren't going to remember them all. No, sure not. But then you aren't folks, you have been always quick wanting to figure me out, so I thought you would still remember. IOW, unlike some others, you had a clear sense of my identity, and not only online identity. But then that's why you keep switching handles in the first place, to cover your tracks. I switch to avoid handling more private or personal topics, that come up in-evidently. I tried to not mix what I am involved with, with what is going on here. The main reason for this are search engines. For most of my online life, I used much of the same handle, in the beginning even part of my name. I also wanted to avoid, that people would inevitable 'group me', put my in one of those typical boxes, which in a former age used to be Pro or anti TMer. This worked only partially, because labels are being applied inevitably - I'm definitely now grouped by you and some others here as anti-Robin, or some such thing. So, at the point, when I realized, I couldn't avoid this, and would be recognized by either you or someone else - it became a mere sport to come up with a different handle. So it serves more for the outside, not inside of FFL, It's more people can't track me easily through search engines. I finally had to make a list for myself. That's how I remembered navashok when I thought to check the list. Well, yes, I have a list in my membership account, but they are only the most recent ones. You count 6, I count 7, not counting an old id from AMT times.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Uzes
It's interesting to read this bearing in mind how attached Barry is to defeating his own enemies. The majority of his posts here are devoted to it (including this one). But he doesn't seem to realize that in this regard, he's no different than anyone else here. Except that he does it *at least* as much as anybody else. A few comments interspersed below... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip In battle (or pseudo-battle, such as Judo matches), people who throw themselves off balance by pushing *against* their opponent...uh...LOSE. End of story. They have in essence defeated *themselves* by allowing their self to become so attached to defeating the person they're pushing against. In politics, this same Judo Theory Of Everything explains (at least to me) the whole sad story of revolution/counterrevolution over the ages. Think the Russian Revolution. Everybody was so fixated on pushing *against* the czars that when they went away, they suddenly found themselves in the position of having nothing else to push against. And with that realization came another -- they'd never thought about what was going to happen if the czars went away. They were so obsessive about what they were *against* that they'd never put any thought into what they were *for*. Therefore, when their enemy was withdrawn from them, they had no idea what to do. So they made up *new* enemies, from within their own ranks, and created a *new* revolution against *them*. This scenario has repeated itself over and over and over throughout the centuries. On social media, you see exactly the same thing. Think FFL. There are people here who *still* fly into a rage and lash out *against* someone like Andrew Skolnick, with whom they have not interacted for more than a decade, and who never once posted to this forum. Actually nobody flies into a rage over Andrew. Interestingly, though, it's Barry who mentions him most often here. There are still people who cannot go a month without lashing out *against* someone like Curtis or Vaj or Sally Sunshine or Ruth or others who gave up on this place as a waste of their valuable time long ago. Since Robin gave up on this place on April 8, Advanced Search shows 93 posts from Barry that mention him. (This is subject to the same caveats as those for Barry's search for posts mentioning himself, of course, but these are posts from a single person, not the entire forum; and we all know Barry does mention Robin quite frequently.) And I would suggest that the reason is that the people who do this are Lazy Fucks, who have never put any thought into what they're *for* in life. For most of those lives, they've pursued the Easy Path, of only focusing on the things and people they're *against*. When those things or people are withdrawn *from* their focus, they panic, and keep pushing against them anyway. Exactly the case with Barry vis-a-vis Robin. NOT that I'm suggesting this might be happening on FFL the last few days, since their favorite push against victim stopped posting as much. It *can't* be that the folks who rag on him non-stop (or who emerged from the woodwork like roaches just so that they could rag on him again) Hey, Bob, Barry called you a roach! That couldn't mean he's pushing against you, could it? can't think of anything else to do. That would be *embarrassing* for them, and we all know that their whole lives revolve around micromanaging their images to pretend that they're *never* embarrassed by their own behavior. :-) How often does Barry admit to being embarrassed by his own behavior? Gee, I can't think of a single instance. Anybody? Anyway, that's my theory, which is mine. You may agree with it, or disagree with it, and -- either way -- I don't really give a fuck. As much as it may pain those who focus on me non-stop may like to believe it, Oops oops oops, incomplete edit. Feeling a little unbalanced there, are ya, Barry? NOTHING they write affects me terribly much. None of the people doing the writing are *interesting* enough for me to pay much attention to what they write, or give much more thought than this cafe rap as to WHY they write it. Hard to believe given how often Barry attacks them in his cafe raps. I just parse their actions through my Judo Theory, and that pretty much explains everything about them I or anyone else ever needed to know. YMMV. If it does, you may feel free to expound upon *your* explanations for why people who seem to dislike one person so intensely that they spend most of their online writing time trying to get him or silence him become so panicky when he decides to go...uh...silent. Feel free to suggest your alternative theories. My explanation is that this happens only in Barry's imagination. (Although Robin leaving does seem to have thrown him for quite a loop, such that he began compulsively to take out his rage at Robin by attacking *me*).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? Share, that is just so *profound*. I'm sure Ravi will be grateful to you for pointing this out to him; it's so very *relevant* to his point.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nagel for Salyavin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: Thanks for seeking it out. I didn't seek it out, actually. It was in the NYTimes yesterday, which I read daily. The Core of `Mind and Cosmos'By THOMAS NAGEL http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/author/thomas-nagel/ This is a brief statement of positions defended more fully in my book Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False, which was published by Oxford University Press last year. Since then the book has attracted a good deal of critical attention, which is not surprising, given the entrenchment of the world view that it attacks. It seemed useful to offer a short summary of the central argument. Read more:http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-an\ d-cosmos/ http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/the-core-of-mind-and-co\ smos/ So it's *that* old chestnut. I can't imagine what the controversy is about then, this idea has been around for donkey's years. Probably just some bloggers reacting to the term neo-Darwinism being false. Bless 'em. No, actually (as I already told you) a bunch of Big Guns in the field of philosophy; their reviews have been published in scholarly journals and important publications like Commonweal, the New Republic, The Nation, and the New York Review of Books, among others. (Some bloggers too, of course.) You make some interesting comments, but I'll have to get back to you later on those. Just wanted to make those two quick points for now. I always thought that if mind was some sort of intrinsic quality of the universe there ought to be a lot more of it about, and maybe of better quality than ours. Fact is, it took millions of years to arise on Earth and it needn't have so I can't imagine what sort of waiting game it was playing. I stick with probability A, there will be a complete neurological explanation but how we translate that into something that satisfies *personally* is up to us. I suspect some sort of feedback mechanism like the brain uses for everything else, the immediacy of consciousness ceases during sleep or general anaesthetic because it is electrical activity and our subjective part, that causes all the hassle, ceases too because it is inextricably bound up with the sensations that is the majority part of experience. There is a part of the brain where our sense of self resides and this is another part of the feedback monitoring system that goes during sleep. Consciousness is us being caught between different brain functions but the bit that we think is us can never be pinned down as it depends on us looking at the rest of what is happening inside to maintain an illusion that there is an us to start with. It's like a hall of mirrors, turn round as fast as you like but you'll never see the original you. Turn the lights off though and you see nothing. It's a machine. But it fools itself into thinking it's something it's not, if it stayed on all the time I'd be a bit more convinced. But it evolved like everything else in the brain and is therefore a bodge-up, maybe one day we'll be able to see our brains working and realise how it's all done. Actually, when I'm meditating I think I get a better glimpse of how it works because a lot of extraneous chatter can get shut down but the sense of the presence of me remains, until I fall asleep. A ghost in a sleepy machine...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Voldemort a hack? (was The Prerequisites for Enlightenment)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Judy, Judy, Judy, it's always a pleasure to hear from you, regret this will only be a drive-by appearance as I'm now fully employed, and the wife expects me to work for the salary she pays me; Sheesh, couldn't you work something out where you used FFL as a forum to test publicity strategies or something? You know, use us as a focus group? no more management consulting for me (shouldn't complain, I had a good 27 year run pretending that was work); my present retirement strategy is to work till I drop and then meet Robin in the big Starbucks in the sky (hope Melville will be there too), and find out what the hell happened at the bombing of Monte Cassino. If I'm not there when you do, please find some way to get word to me, OK? (In any case, I should be joining you shortly if I haven't preceded you.)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Huh? If you had a list, why did you forget khazana? Because I forgot I had the list. Ok, I just remembered Richard saying: asking all the important questions! Where is that lounger? Has unlimited posting scared him away? RICHARD! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:34 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: iranitea, didn't you post as kazana just before this most recent absence? Khazana, that's right, last post here December 10 of 2012, so more than eight months. Old Lady is still having memory problems You mean Share? She forgot navashok, even though that was the handle I had to clue her in about when she thought you were a newbie. Poopsie, when you've used six different handles, you have to expect that folks aren't going to remember them all. But then that's why you keep switching handles in the first place, to cover your tracks. I finally had to make a list for myself. That's how I remembered navashok when I thought to check the list.
[FairfieldLife] I just signed this petition -- would you?
I just took action to demand the EPA stand with everyday Iowans, not big ag, and finally demand strong Clean Water Act enforcement in Iowa. Would you like to sign, too? http://org.credoaction.com/petitions/epa-require-clean-water-act-enforcement-in-iowa?sp_ref=8215200.4.472.e.0.2source=mailto_sp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
It's nice to see you working on being an adult, Share. As an adult, one must always be careful not to be too sanctimonious. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using potentially harmful language. In this I prefer to err on the side of being too gentle than too harsh even if I have to fake it in public and work on it in private or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence of that here on FFL! From: authfriend authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't something to be done casually or for fun. Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I have read recently that comes close to your intensity. You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. Did you see this one, for instance? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long afterward, he decided he was going to go back to not responding to his enemies. Oh, BTW, below Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, which I'm not sure you saw either.) Here's another (also with my response at the top): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your method of responding to people developed in response to some less than pleasant events, or it could a family characteristic. Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous obnoxiousness. (You can call that a less than pleasant event if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what you had in mind.) Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside from the question I asked about percentages, I do think you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, do you think yourself that you are this way or not? When I think it's appropriate, yes indeed. (The difference between you and me in that regard is that I'm honest about it.) Do the people on the forum who are generally favourable to you think you are confrontational and accusatory? There would seem to be a range of opinion on this issue. I guess you've thought more about it than I have. It's not something I'm concerned about. You probably should ask the folks you have in mind. I would assume that those who thought you were would tend to be more favourable in Barry's direction, and those who felt you were not
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an oxygen addict! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Maybe I should start a BA group, Breathers Anonymous? From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an oxygen addict! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an oxygen addict! [http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7936014242_3ff885d017_z.jpg] http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7936014242_3ff885d017_z.jpg http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8446/7936014242_3ff885d017_z.jpg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess
Great! Sign me up! Please don't tell anyone, okay? Thanks. Are you going to start a nose breathers group, you know, yoga, etc.?.. and maybe a sub group called mouth breathers? Ie; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEVtq1jaQww http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEVtq1jaQww Put me in for all the above, please? Keep it secret, because I would like to avoid the carbon tax, okay? (shh I belong to fart's anonymous too.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Maybe I should start a BA group, Breathers Anonymous? From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess  You, Share, over there, separate from me, yeah you... YOU are an oxygen addict! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, aren't we all forever vulnerable to reality? Right now I'm breathing. Probably because my body is vulnerable to the reality of its need for oxygen in order to function. OTOH, even in the context of needing oxygen, what is THE reality? Some athletes take less breaths in a moment than I do. Some yogis can suspend breathing for a long time. People who have lived for a long time in very high mountains don't need as much oxygen in their air. So, even on this simple, physical level what is THE reality to which it is good to be vulnerable? From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 9:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religious delusional beliefs the myth of the invincible, infallible Goddess àOr is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality - I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully adapt to the new reality.
[FairfieldLife] If youre not having fun, youre not doing it right
That's a quote by one of the great writers of our time, asked once to comment on writing. It's as terse as much of his other writing, and as right on. It is IMO high wisdom, the very *essence* of great writing. Elmore Leonard was a true craftsman, an artist who, like Raymond Chandler before him, changed the world forever with his writing, and all while staying within genres that the intelligentsia never really considered writing. You know his dialogue even if you've never read a single one of his books, from the many movies and TV shows based on the books (like Justified, Out Of Sight, Be Cool, Get Shorty, Killshot, 3:10 To Yuma, or Jackie Brown), and from the thousands of others that tried to emulate his style, and failed. He will be missed. http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130820/ENT09/308200051/American-novelist-Elmore-Leonard-has-died
[FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi
Share, like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsrXZ_Mdehw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsrXZ_Mdehw *snort --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: It's nice to see you working on being an adult, Share.  As an adult, one must always be careful not to be too sanctimonious.  From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  Yep, I still think it's possible to set boundaries without using potentially harmful language. In this I prefer to err on the side of being too gentle than too harsh even if I have to fake it in public and work on it in private or with my counselor. That seems adult to me. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi  Sometimes you must speak another person's language to communicate with them. Maharishi said this, meet them at their level of consciousness, so rather than going on and on about compassion and my fellow man, sometimes a good go fuck yourself serves equally well. It is not said in judgment, but rather in context. An attempt at behavioral modification, as would be used on a very stubborn and angry adult child. It shows them immediately that there is a boundary there. Not something one would expect to have to do around adults, setting social boundaries, but some are childish in their state of emotional development. Sorry if it looks ugly from the outside, in, but not sorry enough to stop it, if necessary. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Judy and Xeno, I'm learning, especially here on FFL, that it's best NEVER to blast someone unkindly. Whether it's *important to* reminds me of something posted a few weeks ago: that evil takes over when good people become prideful. Furthermore, I think it's possible to express one's opinion, set boundaries, etc. without being unkind. Because really, exactly what does unkindness accomplish? Does it produce kindness in the abusive person? If so, then all I can say is that I have seen no empirical evidence of that here on FFL! From: authfriend authfriend@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2013 9:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Chopra nothing without Maharishi à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: snip That may well be true. I don't think one ought to blast people unkindly unless one feels it's important. It isn't something to be done casually or for fun. Getting blasted by Barry, and getting blasted by you are, for me, entirely different experiences. For me, that recent post to Share was the only one, of the ones of Barry's I have read recently that comes close to your intensity. You've missed quite a few posts of his, it seems. Did you see this one, for instance? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349106 (Actually this is my response, but Barry's post is quoted in its entirety. Interestingly, not long afterward, he decided he was going to go back to not responding to his enemies. Oh, BTW, below Barry's post are my responses to two of yours, which I'm not sure you saw either.) Here's another (also with my response at the top): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/349548 It makes me wonder if somewhere in your life history your method of responding to people developed in response to some less than pleasant events, or it could a family characteristic. Neither, sorry to disappoint you. Maybe I was just lucky, but until I started posting to electronic forums 25 or so years ago, I'd never encountered this kind of intellectual and factual dishonesty and gratuitous obnoxiousness. (You can call that a less than pleasant event if you like, but somehow I don't think it's what you had in mind.) Some people seem inclined to confrontation and argument more than others. So in reply to your last comment, aside from the question I asked about percentages, I do think you are confrontational and accusatory. I am stating this as if it were a fact. But the other side of the coin is, do you think yourself that you are this way or not? When I think it's appropriate, yes indeed. (The difference between you and me in that regard is that I'm honest about it.) Do the people on the forum who are generally favourable to you think you are confrontational and accusatory? There would seem to be a range of opinion on this issue. I guess you've thought more about it than I have. It's not something I'm concerned about. You probably should ask the
