date:20130909

Back in the day when I was  TM fanatic I was a single meditator for a god 
portion of that time - I had a few friends with whom we would do group TMSP, 
maybe 4 - 6 of us males and there would be 2 - 3 women doing program in another 
room of the house - usually it was me, my roommate and one other guy - this was 
back when hooting and hollering was considered de rigueur so we did lots of it 
- then I had that 2 year stint at MIU where of course we HAD to be in the Domes 
twice a day - at first I was excited and thought it was so cool to see miles of 
foam stretching in all directions, but then after a few programs the reality of 
group TMSP set in where you realize half the people are asleep, half of the 
flyers are just sitting there with the eyes open looking around and snickering 
about certain ones who were making unusually odd noises - frankly for me I got 
more out of the old pre-TMSP group meditations on residence courses.

But all that's behind me as I don't do TM no mo. 





 From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 12:41 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal 
(Meditating) Fairfield
 


  
Back in the day, I was notorious for having giggling fits on rounding courses! 
One could always blame it on stress release but, to be honest, I think 
emotional immaturity was the more honest cause in my case!

I'm genuinely surprised more people don't use the lotus posture - it certainly 
looks more impressive to onlookers! - and those (female) followers who liked 
wearing saris (which look fantastic) surely would have wanted to play the role 
of eastern adept to the full just for the fun of it. 

I'm in two minds about the advantages of group meditation. Sometimes the (real 
or imagined) psychic feedback from the other participants can be energising 
but, on the other hand, I feel very self-conscious about every yawn, cough or 
fidgeting I am subject to irritating others in the room.

As an alternative to sitting in a chair I did once buy a meditation stool - but 
it just made my knees ache! Would you recommend BackJack chairs? Presumably you 
sit crossed-legged on them? 

Are there other types of meditation furniture that anyone on FFL would 
recommend? 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Seraphita, some people sit in chairs. Most of us sit against backjacks on foam. 
I don't see many sitting in lotus. And I don't see anyone looking down on 
anyone else! I definitely prefer doing TMSP in a group rather than alone. 
Subjectively TMSP feels deeper when I practice in a group. And I do believe 
that I contribute more to the coherence when I practice TMSP with others. As 
regards your other post, giggling does happen, especially when there are new 
sidhas in the group. That's always fun (-:

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

who said it was weirder? I made no judgements of gradations of strangeness of 
Marshy worship to non- marshy worship. Simply that Jerry being a nice guy does 
not prevent him from wearing a pair of rose colored glasses, each lens of which 
has a permanently etched image of Marshy as saint.





 From: Ann Woelfle Bater awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence 
Farrow
 


  
I fail to see how keeping a passport of MMY's or his sandals is any weirder 
than someone keeping the same items belonging to any other celebrity, famous 
writer, musician, politician etc, etc, etc that someone had the good fortune to 
have in their possession. One person's treasure is another person's trash, as 
they say (or something like that.)

[FairfieldLife] RE: Offsite archive is toast?

2013-09-09 Thread iranitea

[FairfieldLife] See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-rochus-misch-20130907,0,7348086.story

Rochus Misch never expressed regret over his wartime service or doubts about 
the man he and his comrades called the boss.

Misch was Adolf Hitler's 
bodyguard, messenger and telephone operator. He had tea and cookies with 
Hitler's sister in Vienna. He delivered a congratulatory bouquet from 
Hitler to a young musician who had just announced his engagement. He was in the 
next room of the infamous Berlin bunker when Hitler and Eva Braun, the longtime 
mistress who two days earlier 
had become the Nazi leader's wife, killed themselves on April 30, 1945.

Misch, the last survivor of the entourage holed up in Hitler's underground 
lair, died in Berlin on Thursday. He was 96.

His death was confirmed to 
the Associated Press by Burkhard Nachtigall, an author who helped Misch 
write his 2008 memoir, The Last Witness.

In numerous interviews over the years, including a lengthy 2004 oral history 
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, Misch said he had no knowledge of the 
millions of deaths by genocide at Nazi concentration camps.

I ask you, if Hitler really did all the terrible things people now 
say he did, how could he have been our Fuhrer? Misch said in a 2005 
Salon interview. How is that possible?

At the war's end, Misch was captured by Russian soldiers invading 
Berlin, tortured in prison and sent to work camps in Kazakhstan and 
Siberia until his release in 1953. He was never charged with a war 
crime. Summoned as a witness to the Nuremberg trials, he was not called 
to testify.

A former member of an elite Nazi SS guard, Misch drew outrage from 
critics with his nonchalant approval of Hitler decades after the war.

He is the most unrepentant and unapologetic Hitler supporter you 
could ever have the misfortune to meet, a reporter for the London 
Sunday Express wrote in 2003.

It was a good time with Hitler, Misch said in the article, which 
was based on a 2 1/2-hour interview. I enjoyed it and I was proud to 
work for him.

Born in what is now Poland on July 29, 1917, Misch was raised by his 
grandparents. His soldier father died of a battlefield wound three days 
before Misch was born. Three years later, his mother died of pneumonia.
Misch studied painting but in 1937 volunteered for a four-year tour 
in the German army, hoping, he later explained, to protect Europe from 
the incursions of Stalin. He was shot in the chest during the German 
invasion of Poland in 1939.

Impressing his commanding officers, the convalescing Misch won a spot on the 
unit that provided Hitler with personal aides and bodyguards. 
Recalling his first meeting with Hitler, at the Reich Chancellery, Misch told 
the BBC: I felt cold, then hot. I felt every emotion.

He wasn't a monster or a superhuman, Misch told the Express in 
2011. He stood across from me like a completely normal man with nice 
words.

Misch said accounts of Hitler as an aberrant personality suddenly flying into 
rages or plunging into depression never rang true.

When Misch married his wife, Gerda, on New Year's Eve in 1942, Hitler gave him 
1,000 marks and 40 bottles of wine. When Gerda became pregnant in 1944, Eva 
Braun sent her a baby carriage.

Still, Misch on several occasions came across Hitler in what appeared to be 
moments of intense melancholy. Late one night in the German 
dictator's living room, Misch saw him in a trance-like state staring at an oil 
painting of Frederick the Great that was flickering in the 
candlelight, he told the Express. I felt like an intruder interrupting 
someone in the middle of prayer.

In 1944, Misch witnessed the attempted assassination of Hitler by top generals.
In the Reich's final days the next year, Misch was manning the 
bunker's phones when Hitler gathered his remaining staff for goodbyes. A little 
while after he and Braun disappeared into his office, someone 
discovered their bodies and Misch came running.

I saw him slumped with his head on the table, he told the BBC. I 
saw Eva on the sofa; her head was next to him, her knees drawn tightly 
up to her chest.
Hitler had shot himself and his wife had taken cyanide.

Not long afterward, Magda Goebbels, wife of Nazi propaganda minister 
Joseph Goebbels, ushered her six children into the bunker and had a 
doctor give them some kind of sugary drink, Misch told the BBC.

All of us knew what was going on, he said. An hour or two later, Mrs. 
Goebbels came out crying.

She sat down and played solitaire to calm herself. The next day, she and her 
husband committed suicide.

After his release from Russian prisons, Misch ran a decorating store 
in Berlin with his wife. They lived just two miles from the site of 
Hitler's Fuhrerbunker.

Their daughter, Brigitta Jacobs-Engelken, in 2009 told the BBC a family secret: 
Brigitta's mother — Misch's wife, Gerda, who died in 1998 — was Jewish.
I know it from my grandma, the daughter, an architect in Germany 
who worked to restore synagogues,

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread j_alexander_stanley

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-09 Thread Share Long

I have an apron that my dear Granny Long gave me. It's not because I worship 
her. It's because we loved each other. As for Jerry Jarvis, I think he is the 
epitome of devotion, something I aspire to.


Ann wrote: I fail to see how keeping a passport of MMY's or his sandals is any 
weirder than someone keeping the same items belonging to any other 
celebrity, famous writer, musician, politician etc, etc, etc that 
someone had the good fortune to have in their possession. One person's 
treasure is another person's trash, as they say (or something like 
that.)




 From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence 
Farrow
 


  
I liked him when I knew him in Atlanta - but that doesn't keep me from seeing 
he still suffers from a case of Marshy worship - he still has an old passport 
of Marshy's that he keeps almost like Mark L kept his sandals.





 From: waybac...@yahoo.com waybac...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence 
Farrow
 


  
Hmmm.  You know, Jerry was around Maharishi all the time for years and years.  
He might be accurate. And it appears he has never wavered in his devotion thru 
hard times and probably some upset with organizational issues - a true 
devotee!! It sure is interesting how things play out over time, perceptions 
differ, good hearted and smart people arrive at different conclusions. What an 
amazing man Jerry is.  He inspired such love and confidence in people. He was 
compassionate and down to earth and smart.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Age and proximity to Marshy is no signpost of common sense or clarity of 
perception - Jerry Jarvis told my friend Bill over the phone a few weeks ago 
that all the allegations by Mark Landau, Billy Clayton and the other skin boys 
were all ridiculous. He said he spent more time around M than any of those guys 
and he never saw a hint of any wrongdoing of any kind. 





 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 5:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an interview with Prudence Farrow
 


  
Dear Prudence – an interview with Prudence Farrow
This entry was posted in Knowledge  news  on September 8, 2013by Andrew Lawson 
Kerr. 


Prudence Farrow achieved international fame through the Beatles song ‘Dear 
Prudence’, where they sing of her dedicated focus on meditation during her 
teacher training course in Rishikesh with Maharishi, which John Lennon and 
George Harrison also  participated in. Here is a recent interview with Prudence 
where she talks of her time then and since.
Interview:
Priya: Which brings me to the subject of song, “Dear Prudence” which was 
written for you by John Lennon. It’s such a beautiful, expansive song…
Prudence: It actually captured the feeling of that course (that we took with 
Mahesh Yogi).
Priya: That’s interesting. Great songs seem to capture things in layers – 
distilling so many things in any given moment… Do you want to elaborate on what 
you mean when you say it captured the course?
Prudence: It captured that period that we were there.
Especially the feeling of India… and of that meditation course… none of the 
other songs that they ever wrote have that…to me… And when I hear it I just 
feel that time in India, that course.
And that course was very powerful for me. It was a monumental experience. At 
that time Maharishi did not realize, this is what he said, is that he did not 
realize that we, the young people from the West, carried so much stress. And I 
was kind of a prototype of many that were to follow. I was just leading the way 
of many, many others that would come after me. You know, after that course, he 
didn’t have people meditate solidly. But on that course, he had people do it 
just as long as you could do it, and you’d just be meditating all the time. But 
meditation is also a practice of purification and while its packing in and 
integrating that silence of your experience. So for me, it was horrendous and 
amazing at the same time. It was a huge game-changer… To go into the solitary 
guidance of such a great man. I totally trusted him beyond anybody I’d ever 
met. So I could safely give myself over to the process of just complete silence 
and deep, deep, deep
 meditation. So it was extraordinary of course.
Priya: I believe that in your own words you’ve called your dedication to 
meditation “fanatical”…that you were in your room non-stop meditating while 
others took time off, the Beatles rehearsed. I think you mention that even your 
sister Mia

[FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread Share Long

Obbajee, I drink coconut water every day. I hope that counts as coconut oil in 
the hair can be quite messy if cooling to the pitta brain (-:
Praying that Ganesha remove all Neo and non Neo obstacles to your posting! Jai 
Ganesha!





 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC
 


  
So frustrating. I am used to going to my inbox and seeing all the posts in 
order and reading them when I have time. If I get so moved and have the desire 
to type these keys, I go to the FFL Yahoo Group Message board and yank the 
chains I see fit to yank. 
Today, I got about 9 posts in my inbox, not including mine earlier, that most 
likely will arrive tomorrow. 
Why is there such delay, Yahoo?
Annoyed with blissful coconut oil anointed in my eyes (Accidentally smeared too 
much on my face. I was making Gulab Jamun for today's Happy Ganepathi Namha 
Day, using coconut oil to fry in.)  which is just as annoying these delays. I 
wish to stoke Share's hair and Ravi's mane. Come on, Yahoo. Get with it!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Testing. Please do not tally my tests.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote:
 
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   17 Share Long 
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7 Bhairitu 
6 obbajeeba 
5 iranitea 
4 sharelong60 
4 jr_esq
4 awoelflebater
4 authfriend
4 Ann Woelfle Bater 
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[FairfieldLife] RE: W8 and Neo?

2013-09-09 Thread j_alexander_stanley

[FairfieldLife] Computers prove Existence of God

2013-09-09 Thread iranitea

[FairfieldLife] Re: last night I dreamt of judy stein . . .

2013-09-09 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus

obbajeeba:
 But Alex, if it is a dream, how on topic to dreams stay? :)

Well, as long as we're not making any sense today, let
me add that dreams are real - as real as the waking
state. There's probably not a single waking state event
that you can't experience in the dream state.

So, when Fester says he dreamed of Judy, it was a real
dream - because it was presented to him - it was not an
illusion, something that was not real.

P.S. You're supposed to copy and paste the thread with
interspersed  (right angle brackets) indicating the
quoted text.

That way, we know what you're responding to.

People: slow down and think before you post your
one-liners. LoL!

Example:

 This is quoted text

Take the time to edit any quotations down to the minimum
necessary to provide context for your reply. Nobody likes
reading a long message in quotes for the third or fourth
time, only to be followed by a one line response: Yeah,
me too

Email/Discussion Group Netiquette Tips:
http://earlydues.usanethosting.com/ieel/netiquette.htm#quote
http://earlydues.usanethosting.com/ieel/netiquette.htm#quote

[FairfieldLife] RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater

Communism anyone?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater

Hang in there Obba. It will get better. We will, like lab rats, eventually 
adapt to all this newness and once again FFL will be the vibrant and brilliant 
community it once was before NEO. But for the time being, as we all attempt to 
figure out how to post with colour, include images, have our posts actually 
show up or at least appear within 24 hours, we must just live with the faith 
that it is all for our spiritual growth and evolution. It is comical actually, 
because it is like being in some demented time warp never being sure that an 
response will show up after an initial post is made or if it will appear in 
triplicate. Trying to keep choronlogy straight is also a mind bender but for 
God's sake woman, don't abandon ship!

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] ï»¿Dear Prudenc e â an i nterview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-09 Thread authfriend

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread j_alexander_stanley

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread doctordumbass

Re: [FairfieldLife] Quote of Derrida

2013-09-09 Thread Share Long

dear iranitea, well your other post about the mathematical proof of God has not 
yet arrived in my inbox so I'm using this one, which I do not understand, in 
order to thank you for that other one which I don't completely understand 
either but could follow the logic therein a little more easily (-:





 From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 5:50 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Quote of Derrida
 


  
At the end of Being and Nothingness...[,] Being in-itself and Being for-itself 
were of Being; and this totality of beings, in which they were effected, itself 
was 
linked up to itself, relating and appearing to itself, by means of the 
essential project of human-reality. What was named in this way, in an 
allegedly neutral and undetermined way, was nothing other than the 
metaphysical unity of man and God, the relation of man to God, the 
project of becoming God as the project constituting human-reality. 
Atheism changes nothing in this fundamental structure.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jacques_Derrida

[FairfieldLife] RE: Computers prove Existence of God

2013-09-09 Thread doctordumbass

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread Share Long

Ok, Seraphita, now I think your pulling my leg! Maybe out of lotus position?! 
Anyway, perhaps your curiosity about all this will be enough incentive for you 
to visit the Dome in Skelmersdale and see how people are sitting there. Though 
I have heard they are stricter. Go figure!





 From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:41 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal 
(Meditating) Fairfield
 


  
Back in the day, I was notorious for having giggling fits on rounding courses! 
One could always blame it on stress release but, to be honest, I think 
emotional immaturity was the more honest cause in my case!

I'm genuinely surprised more people don't use the lotus posture - it certainly 
looks more impressive to onlookers! - and those (female) followers who liked 
wearing saris (which look fantastic) surely would have wanted to play the role 
of eastern adept to the full just for the fun of it. 

I'm in two minds about the advantages of group meditation. Sometimes the (real 
or imagined) psychic feedback from the other participants can be energising 
but, on the other hand, I feel very self-conscious about every yawn, cough or 
fidgeting I am subject to irritating others in the room.

As an alternative to sitting in a chair I did once buy a meditation stool - but 
it just made my knees ache! Would you recommend BackJack chairs? Presumably you 
sit crossed-legged on them? 

Are there other types of meditation furniture that anyone on FFL would 
recommend? 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Seraphita, some people sit in chairs. Most of us sit against backjacks on foam. 
I don't see many sitting in lotus. And I don't see anyone looking down on 
anyone else! I definitely prefer doing TMSP in a group rather than alone. 
Subjectively TMSP feels deeper when I practice in a group. And I do believe 
that I contribute more to the coherence when I practice TMSP with others. As 
regards your other post, giggling does happen, especially when there are new 
sidhas in the group. That's always fun (-:

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-09 Thread Share Long

I agree, Susan, Jerry Jarvis is an amazing person, with all the qualities you 
mention, plus a sense of humor, an example of the best in the TMO. Years ago he 
met with MIU staff and someone was telling him about all the unstressing they 
were doing. And he said with a gentle laugh, be glad you're unstressing and not 
instressing. 





 From: waybac...@yahoo.com waybac...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence 
Farrow
 


  
Hmmm.  You know, Jerry was around Maharishi all the time for years and years.  
He might be accurate. And it appears he has never wavered in his devotion thru 
hard times and probably some upset with organizational issues - a true 
devotee!! It sure is interesting how things play out over time, perceptions 
differ, good hearted and smart people arrive at different conclusions. What an 
amazing man Jerry is.  He inspired such love and confidence in people. He was 
compassionate and down to earth and smart.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Age and proximity to Marshy is no signpost of common sense or clarity of 
perception - Jerry Jarvis told my friend Bill over the phone a few weeks ago 
that all the allegations by Mark Landau, Billy Clayton and the other skin boys 
were all ridiculous. He said he spent more time around M than any of those guys 
and he never saw a hint of any wrongdoing of any kind. 





 From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 5:20 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an interview with Prudence Farrow
 


  
Dear Prudence – an interview with Prudence Farrow
This entry was posted in Knowledge  news  on September 8, 2013by Andrew Lawson 
Kerr. 


Prudence Farrow achieved international fame through the Beatles song ‘Dear 
Prudence’, where they sing of her dedicated focus on meditation during her 
teacher training course in Rishikesh with Maharishi, which John Lennon and 
George Harrison also  participated in. Here is a recent interview with Prudence 
where she talks of her time then and since.
Interview:
Priya: Which brings me to the subject of song, “Dear Prudence” which was 
written for you by John Lennon. It’s such a beautiful, expansive song…
Prudence: It actually captured the feeling of that course (that we took with 
Mahesh Yogi).
Priya: That’s interesting. Great songs seem to capture things in layers – 
distilling so many things in any given moment… Do you want to elaborate on what 
you mean when you say it captured the course?
Prudence: It captured that period that we were there.
Especially the feeling of India… and of that meditation course… none of the 
other songs that they ever wrote have that…to me… And when I hear it I just 
feel that time in India, that course.
And that course was very powerful for me. It was a monumental experience. At 
that time Maharishi did not realize, this is what he said, is that he did not 
realize that we, the young people from the West, carried so much stress. And I 
was kind of a prototype of many that were to follow. I was just leading the way 
of many, many others that would come after me. You know, after that course, he 
didn’t have people meditate solidly. But on that course, he had people do it 
just as long as you could do it, and you’d just be meditating all the time. But 
meditation is also a practice of purification and while its packing in and 
integrating that silence of your experience. So for me, it was horrendous and 
amazing at the same time. It was a huge game-changer… To go into the solitary 
guidance of such a great man. I totally trusted him beyond anybody I’d ever 
met. So I could safely give myself over to the process of just complete silence 
and deep, deep, deep
 meditation. So it was extraordinary of course.
Priya: I believe that in your own words you’ve called your dedication to 
meditation “fanatical”…that you were in your room non-stop meditating while 
others took time off, the Beatles rehearsed. I think you mention that even your 
sister Mia went out to hunt tigers while you stayed in your room. What for?
Prudence: After that experience of my father, there could be nothing that could 
match that. So I became ferociously hungry for more.
Priya: Did you find what you were looking for?
Prudence: I did. I did. You know, originally I wasn’t allowed to go. Because of 
my age and all that…So I went to Lourdes for a miracle. You know, so that I 
could go to Rishikesh…Cos I figured I just have to go! There’s nothing else for 
me. I don’t want anything else.
Priya: Did you just say you went to Lourdes to get a miracle?
Prudence: Yes, because they wouldn’t accept me on the course. And I tried in 
California. I tried in New York and then I tried in England and it just

[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread turquoiseb

Alex sez:
 
 I stopped meditating because I'd gotten to the point 
 that I couldn't even make myself meditate. Early in 
 our marriage, Petra would insist I go to the dome, 
 but she ultimately let go. I have never claimed 
 enlightenment, however, after two intensive years 
 with Waking Down (wakingdown.org), I did have the 
 Waking Down Brand Second Birth Awakening. And, when 
 Waking Down ceased to be of value to me, I drifted 
 away from it. Now, the only thing left for me is 
 wearing my snappy little SS uniform, while doling 
 out the harshness in my capacity as FFL moderator.

Lucky for you those uniforms were created by Hugo
Boss. Or at least that's what Russell Brand says.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread Share Long

noozguru, had to check Message View to find out that the funny comment was 
yours! Oh well. I'm just surprised but glad they give those poor snoopers any 
time off at all. Otherwise, they'd all go bonkers pretty quickly. And then 
where would NSA be?!





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC
 


  
LOL! 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


The NSA has a reduced staff on weekends so they don't get to your posts as 
fast.  ;-) 

On 09/08/2013 06:08 PM, obbajeeba wrote:

  
So frustrating. I am used to going to my inbox and seeing all the posts in 
order and reading them when I have time. If I get so moved and have the desire 
to type these keys, I go to the FFL Yahoo Group Message board and yank the 
chains I see fit to yank. 
Today, I got about 9 posts in my inbox, not including mine
  earlier, that most likely will arrive tomorrow. 
Why is there such delay, Yahoo?
Annoyed with blissful coconut oil anointed in my eyes
  (Accidentally smeared too much on my face. I was making
  Gulab Jamun for today's Happy Ganepathi Namha Day, using
  coconut oil to fry in.) which is just as annoying these
  delays. I wish to stoke Share's hair and Ravi's mane. Come
  on, Yahoo. Get with it!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Testing. Please do not tally my tests.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote:
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread Share Long

Buck in bibs in this weather?! 101F, 37C predicted for today. Stay cool, Buck 
or Obbajee will douse you with coconut oil. Then what would happen to those 
Bananagram squares?!

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal 
(Meditating) Fairfield

Well, actually he is being modest.   Alex's daily meditation is
satsanga with the other enlightened of Fairfield who turn out most
afternoons at Revelations to discourse on things spiritual.  Guru Dev
Brahmananda Saraswati recommended that we hang with good company as
important sadhana.Alex's usual snappy white outfit accents with
black is very trick.  Very clean, pressed and formal in a way jumpsuitish. It 
kind of
looks polyester but I don't think he'd do that.
-Buck in bibs

Alex writes;
 Now, the only thing left for me is wearing my snappy little SS uniform, while 
doling out the harshness in my capacity as FFL moderator.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I stopped meditating because I'd gotten to the point that I couldn't even make 
myself meditate. Early in our marriage, Petra would insist I go to the dome, 
but she ultimately let go. I have never claimed enlightenment, however, after 
two intensive years with Waking Down (wakingdown.org), I did have the Waking 
Down Brand Second Birth Awakening. And, when Waking Down ceased to be of value 
to me, I drifted away from it. Now, the only thing left for me is wearing my 
snappy little SS uniform, while doling out the harshness in my capacity as FFL 
moderator.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Being a nosy bugger I must ask: why did you stop meditating? Are you now 
enlightened - or have you resigned yourself to the waking/dreaming/sleeping 
states as being good enough for you? 

Does your better half, the devoted Sidha, ever nag you to resume the practice?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

I've been off the program since 1994, so I'm really not one to ask about TM 
experiences. I'm married to a devoted Sidha, and I live in FF, but for me, 
the world of TM is far off in the background.

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Quote of Derrida

2013-09-09 Thread iranitea

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Offsite archive is toast?

2013-09-09 Thread j_alexander_stanley

[FairfieldLife] RE: Bad Habits, revisited

2013-09-09 Thread iranitea

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Offsite archive is toast?

2013-09-09 Thread Rick Archer

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of authfri...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:26 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Offsite archive is toast?

Nope, doesn't show up for me either. The pre-Neo posts do. I didn't check to 
see exactly when it changed. Rick needs to tell the Mail Archive folks, see if 
there's anything they can do. I rather doubt it. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com  wrote:

On a whim, I just went to the offsite archive:

http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/

And, if I click on a post, it doesn't display any of the post's content. Is 
that the case with everyone else? Rick?

I’m seeing content. For instance, on 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg291357.html, I see 

Skip to site navigation (Press enter) 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg291357.html#nav  

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) 
Fairfield 
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comq=subject:%22Re%3A+Re%3A+%5BFairfieldLife%5D+RE%3A+RE%3A+RE%3A+RE%3A+Describing+Communal+%28Meditating%29+Fairfield%22

Michael Jackson 
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comq=from:%22Michael+Jackson%22
  Mon, 09 Sep 2013 02:47:59 -0700 
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.comq=date:20130909

Back in the day when I was  TM fanatic I was a single meditator for a god 

portion of that time - I had a few friends with whom we would do group TMSP, 

maybe 4 - 6 of us males and there would be 2 - 3 women doing program in another 

room of the house - usually it was me, my roommate and one other guy - this was 

back when hooting and hollering was considered de rigueur so we did lots of it 

- then I had that 2 year stint at MIU where of course we HAD to be in the Domes 

twice a day - at first I was excited and thought it was so cool to see miles of 

foam stretching in all directions, but then after a few programs the reality of 

group TMSP set in where you realize half the people are asleep, half of the 

flyers are just sitting there with the eyes open looking around and snickering 

about certain ones who were making unusually odd noises - frankly for me I got 

more out of the old pre-TMSP group meditations on residence courses.

But all that's behind me as I don't do TM no mo. 

From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 12:41 AM

Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal 

(Meditating) Fairfield

Back in the day, I was notorious for having giggling fits on rounding courses! 

One could always blame it on stress release but, to be honest, I think 

emotional immaturity was the more honest cause in my case!

I'm genuinely surprised more people don't use the lotus posture - it certainly 

looks more impressive to onlookers! - and those (female) followers who liked 

wearing saris (which look fantastic) surely would have wanted to play the role 

of eastern adept to the full just for the fun of it. 

I'm in two minds about the advantages of group meditation. Sometimes the (real 

or imagined) psychic feedback from the other participants can be energising 

but, on the other hand, I feel very self-conscious about every yawn, cough or 

fidgeting I am subject to irritating others in the room.

As an alternative to sitting in a chair I did once buy a meditation stool - but 

it just made my knees ache! Would you recommend BackJack chairs? Presumably you 

sit crossed-legged on them? 

Are there other types of meditation furniture that anyone on FFL would 

recommend? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Seraphita, some people sit in chairs. Most of us sit against backjacks on foam. 

I don't see many sitting in lotus. And I don't see anyone looking down on 

anyone else! I definitely prefer doing TMSP in a group rather than alone. 

Subjectively TMSP feels deeper when I practice in a group. And I do believe 

that I contribute more to the coherence when I practice TMSP with others. As 

regards your other post, giggling does happen, especially when there are new 

sidhas in the group. That's always fun (-:

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[FairfieldLife] RE: Chopra nothing without Maharishi

2013-09-09 Thread iranitea

[FairfieldLife] Nickel and Santa?

2013-09-09 Thread cardemaister

[FairfieldLife] RE: Dear Prudence â an interview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-09 Thread s3raphita

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

Mine are clear - they began to clear up after I left the Movement

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

 Yes, beware the color of your glasses.
-Buck

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-rochus-misch-20130907,0,7348086.story

Rochus Misch never expressed regret over his wartime service or doubts about 
the man he and his comrades called the boss.

Misch was Adolf Hitler's 
bodyguard, messenger and telephone operator. He had tea and cookies with 
Hitler's sister in Vienna. He delivered a congratulatory bouquet from 
Hitler to a young musician who had just announced his engagement. He was in the 
next room of the infamous Berlin bunker when Hitler and Eva Braun, the longtime 
mistress who two days earlier 
had become the Nazi leader's wife, killed themselves on April 30, 1945.

Misch, the last survivor of the entourage holed up in Hitler's underground 
lair, died in Berlin on Thursday. He was 96.

His death was confirmed to 
the Associated Press by Burkhard Nachtigall, an author who helped Misch 
write his 2008 memoir, The Last Witness.

In numerous interviews over the years, including a lengthy 2004 oral history 
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, Misch said he had no knowledge of the 
millions of deaths by genocide at Nazi concentration camps.

I ask you, if Hitler really did all the terrible things people now 
say he did, how could he have been our Fuhrer? Misch said in a 2005 
Salon interview. How is that possible?

At the war's end, Misch was captured by Russian soldiers invading 
Berlin, tortured in prison and sent to work camps in Kazakhstan and 
Siberia until his release in 1953. He was never charged with a war 
crime. Summoned as a witness to the Nuremberg trials, he was not called 
to testify.

A former member of an elite Nazi SS guard, Misch drew outrage from 
critics with his nonchalant approval of Hitler decades after the war.

He is the most unrepentant and unapologetic Hitler supporter you 
could ever have the misfortune to meet, a reporter for the London 
Sunday Express wrote in 2003.

It was a good time with Hitler, Misch said in the article, which 
was based on a 2 1/2-hour interview. I enjoyed it and I was proud to 
work for him.

Born in what is now Poland on July 29, 1917, Misch was raised by his 
grandparents. His soldier father died of a battlefield wound three days 
before Misch was born. Three years later, his mother died of pneumonia.
Misch studied painting but in 1937 volunteered for a four-year tour 
in the German army, hoping, he later explained, to protect Europe from 
the incursions of Stalin. He was shot in the chest during the German 
invasion of Poland in 1939.

Impressing his commanding officers, the convalescing Misch won a spot on the 
unit that provided Hitler with personal aides and bodyguards. 
Recalling his first meeting with Hitler, at the Reich Chancellery, Misch told 
the BBC: I felt cold, then hot. I felt every emotion.

He wasn't a monster or a superhuman, Misch told the Express in 
2011. He stood across from me like a completely normal man with nice 
words.

Misch said accounts of Hitler as an aberrant personality suddenly flying into 
rages or plunging into depression never rang true.

When Misch married his wife, Gerda, on New Year's Eve in 1942, Hitler gave him 
1,000 marks and 40 bottles of wine. When Gerda became pregnant in 1944, Eva 
Braun sent her a baby carriage.

Still, Misch on several occasions came across Hitler in what appeared to be 
moments of intense melancholy. Late one night in the German 
dictator's living room, Misch saw him in a trance-like state staring at an oil 
painting of Frederick the Great that was flickering in the 
candlelight, he told the Express. I felt like an intruder interrupting 
someone in the middle of prayer.

In 1944, Misch witnessed the attempted assassination of Hitler by top generals.
In the Reich's final days the next year, Misch was manning the 
bunker's phones when Hitler gathered his remaining staff for goodbyes. A little 
while after he and Braun disappeared into his office, someone 
discovered their bodies and Misch came running.

I saw him slumped with his head on the table, he told the BBC. I 
saw Eva on the sofa; her head was next to him, her knees drawn tightly 
up to her chest.
Hitler had shot himself and his wife had taken cyanide.

Not long afterward, Magda Goebbels, wife of Nazi propaganda minister 
Joseph Goebbels, ushered her six children into the bunker and had a 
doctor give them some kind of sugary drink, Misch told the BBC.

All of us knew what was going on, he said. An hour or two later, Mrs. 
Goebbels came out crying.

She sat down and played solitaire to calm herself. The next day, she and her 
husband

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: W8 and Neo?

2013-09-09 Thread Bhairitu

It's about the sheeple want something new and flashy or they don't go to 
your site, buy your app or device.  They've been brain damaged into 
always wanting something new. However Neo does look like an attempt to 
make sure it works well on mobile devices since the younger generation 
is doing more on those than laptops or desktops.


Funny thing is I am still getting the old site when logged in on 
Android.  Neo when not. Neo would be easier to navigate on my phone.  
And I wouldn't need to type anything in, just dictate my message to the 
phone and it turns it into text.


On 09/09/2013 03:57 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote:


I think there's a general trend in the world of redesigning things to 
be new and flashy for the sake of being new and flashy, with no regard 
for good design. W8 and Neo are two obvious examples of this. Those 
idiotic paddle shifters on some new cars are another. There is nothing 
wrong with ridiculously simple and intuitive gated shifters on 
automatic transmissions; you put the shifter in the desired gear, and 
the shifter's position tells you you're in the right gear. With those 
paddle shifters, the shift mechanism itself returns no feedback as to 
what gear the car is in; that requires staring at the dashboard while 
flailing away blindly on the damn paddle, hoping the stoopid car will 
get into the desired gear.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


Just occurred to me, is there some weird connection between W8 and Neo?

[FairfieldLife] RE: Dear Prudence â an interview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-09 Thread s3raphita

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Survival

2013-09-09 Thread Bhairitu

The grim ones are apparently the ones the Pentagon buys for the troops.  
If you do a search one can find a wide variety of them available and for 
a wide variety of prices.  They even have self heating ones.


Locally the consumer affairs person on San Francisco's KGO-TV had a 
report a few years back on the survival kits that Costco was selling.  
The station staff tried the food (all soybean protein) and decided it 
was not very tasty. And shortly after a number of men there started 
cross dressing.


A lot of recreational stores like REI sell freeze dried meals for 
campers and may even have some MREs.  I always thought that having a few 
of them around might be a good idea.  But then I thought that living 
near an oil refinery some hazmat suits might be useful too.


On 09/08/2013 05:05 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote:


MREs = Meals Ready to Eat, a.k.a., Meals Refused by Ethiopians

Apparently, they're quite gustatorily grim.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


Never heard of MREs before but I see they must be similar to what are 
described as Self Heating Field Ration Packs on Amazon.co.uk. I'm 
tempted to buy a pack just to see if they're tasty.Wiki warns me they 
have high-fat and high-salt content and the energy provided - though 
good for combat situations - would cause couch-potato civilians to 
balloon in size.



I love baked beans so that's what I'd stock up on!



--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

Back over 10 years ago I bought an earthquake emergency pack at a
local hardware store.Ã  As it expired I tried the energy bars
and found they were highly sweetened.Ã Instead of giving me
energy those would have laid me on my back.Ã  I took to buying
stuff to keep around that I would actually eat and would eat
before expiration just replacing them.Ã  I tried an eFoods sample
pack and found though it tasted good two of the items were soy
protein and I seem to have a little allergy to that.Ã  I am
thinking of keeping some MREs on hand but so many of the sample
packs included beef meals which I don't eat.Ã  They are missing
out selling to the semi-veg group who might be interested in
chicken and seafood MREs.Ã  I mainly though know how to make
stuff and keep some canned meats on hand.


On 09/08/2013 10:09 AM, s3raphita@... wrote:

Ã
Re There's a US series by National Geographic calledÃ
Doomsday Preppers: I caught a bit of that. It intrigued me
the different approaches taken. Some people had containers
hidden away stocked with tinned food and all the usual stuff
whereas others took the view that in a real breakdown of law
and order you'd never be able to keep other desperate
individuals away from your stash so the better approach was to
learn how to live off the land and have a tent and backpack
ready. There's an old money-saving adage to never buy stuff
until you actually need it so it's astonishing to see how much
wealth people have sunk into stores and equipment they'll
likely never use.

[FairfieldLife] Best Selling Cars in America

2013-09-09 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus

The August auto sales figures have been reported, and there were many
reasons for Japanese automakers to celebrate. Though Ford's (NYSE:F)
F-Series pickups still paced the industry with an impressive 71,115
units
sold, cars by Japanese automakers took 6 out of the 10 top spots in U.S.
auto sales last month...

1. Toyota Camry


 
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/these-6-japanese-cars-dominated-the-\
u-s-in-august.html/?a=viewall


'These 6 Japanese Cars Dominated the U.S. in August'
http://tinyurl.com/oulbza6 http://tinyurl.com/oulbza6

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread Mike Dixon

Wow! Hitler had a *skin boy*.

 From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 4:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

 Yes, beware the color of your glasses.
-Buck 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-rochus-misch-20130907,0,7348086.story

Rochus Misch never expressed regret over his wartime service or doubts about 
the man he and his comrades called the boss. 

Misch was Adolf Hitler's 
bodyguard, messenger and telephone operator. He had tea and cookies with 
Hitler's sister in Vienna. He delivered a congratulatory bouquet from 
Hitler to a young musician who had just announced his engagement. He was in the 
next room of the infamous Berlin bunker when Hitler and Eva Braun, the longtime 
mistress who two days earlier 
had become the Nazi leader's wife, killed themselves on April 30, 1945. 

Misch, the last survivor of the entourage holed up in Hitler's underground 
lair, died in Berlin on Thursday. He was 96. 

His death was confirmed to 
the Associated Press by Burkhard Nachtigall, an author who helped Misch 
write his 2008 memoir, The Last Witness. 

In numerous interviews over the years, including a lengthy 2004 oral history 
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, Misch said he had no knowledge of the 
millions of deaths by genocide at Nazi concentration camps. 

I ask you, if Hitler really did all the terrible things people now 
say he did, how could he have been our Fuhrer? Misch said in a 2005 
Salon interview. How is that possible? 

At the war's end, Misch was captured by Russian soldiers invading 
Berlin, tortured in prison and sent to work camps in Kazakhstan and 
Siberia until his release in 1953. He was never charged with a war 
crime. Summoned as a witness to the Nuremberg trials, he was not called 
to testify. 

A former member of an elite Nazi SS guard, Misch drew outrage from 
critics with his nonchalant approval of Hitler decades after the war. 

He is the most unrepentant and unapologetic Hitler supporter you 
could ever have the misfortune to meet, a reporter for the London 
Sunday Express wrote in 2003. 

It was a good time with Hitler, Misch said in the article, which 
was based on a 2 1/2-hour interview. I enjoyed it and I was proud to 
work for him. 

Born in what is now Poland on July 29, 1917, Misch was raised by his 
grandparents. His soldier father died of a battlefield wound three days 
before Misch was born. Three years later, his mother died of pneumonia. 
Misch studied painting but in 1937 volunteered for a four-year tour 
in the German army, hoping, he later explained, to protect Europe from 
the incursions of Stalin. He was shot in the chest during the German 
invasion of Poland in 1939. 

Impressing his commanding officers, the convalescing Misch won a spot on the 
unit that provided Hitler with personal aides and bodyguards. 
Recalling his first meeting with Hitler, at the Reich Chancellery, Misch told 
the BBC: I felt cold, then hot. I felt every emotion. 

He wasn't a monster or a superhuman, Misch told the Express in 
2011. He stood across from me like a completely normal man with nice 
words. 

Misch said accounts of Hitler as an aberrant personality suddenly flying into 
rages or plunging into depression never rang true. 

When Misch married his wife, Gerda, on New Year's Eve in 1942, Hitler gave him 
1,000 marks and 40 bottles of wine. When Gerda became pregnant in 1944, Eva 
Braun sent her a baby carriage. 

Still, Misch on several occasions came across Hitler in what appeared to be 
moments of intense melancholy. Late one night in the German 
dictator's living room, Misch saw him in a trance-like state staring at an oil 
painting of Frederick the Great that was flickering in the 
candlelight, he told the Express. I felt like an intruder interrupting 
someone in the middle of prayer. 

In 1944, Misch witnessed the attempted assassination of Hitler by top generals. 
In the Reich's final days the next year, Misch was manning the 
bunker's phones when Hitler gathered his remaining staff for goodbyes. A little 
while after he and Braun disappeared into his office, someone 
discovered their bodies and Misch came running. 

I saw him slumped with his head on the table, he told the BBC. I 
saw Eva on the sofa; her head was next to him, her knees drawn tightly 
up to her chest. 
Hitler had shot himself and his wife had taken cyanide. 

Not long afterward, Magda Goebbels, wife of Nazi propaganda minister 
Joseph Goebbels, ushered her six children into the bunker and had a 
doctor give them some kind of sugary drink, Misch told the BBC. 

All of us knew what was going on, he said. An hour or two later, Mrs. 
Goebbels came out crying. 

She sat down and played solitaire to calm herself. The next day, she and her 
husband committed suicide.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nickel and Santa?

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

Maybe it was Knecht Ruprecht

 From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 11:51 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nickel and Santa?

Wikipedia:

In medieval Germany, a red mineral was found in the Erzgebirge (Ore Mountains) 
that resembled copper ore. However, when miners were unable to extract any 
copper from it, they blamed a mischievous sprite of German mythology, Nickel 
(similar to Old Nick), for besetting the copper. They called this ore 
Kupfernickel from the German Kupfer for copper.[27][28][29][30] This ore is now 
known to be nickeline or niccolite, a nickel arsenide. In 1751, Baron Axel 
Fredrik Cronstedt was trying to extract copper from kupfernickel—and instead 
produced a white metal that he named after the spirit that had given its name 
to the mineral, nickel.[31] In modern German, Kupfernickel or Kupfer-Nickel 
designates the alloy cupronickel.

RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Offsite archive is toast?

2013-09-09 Thread authfriend

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

Ha ha ha! I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right. All those guru 
types, demagogues and dictators need little snakes to allow the big snakes to 
crawl around eating up whatever they want. 

Come to think of it, the skin boy idea is ludicrous but not surprising, I mean 
if a man is a yogi, a realized master what the heck does he have to worry about 
what kind of vibe exists where he is sitting? And the rule is supposed to be 
that the deer or tiger skin has to come from an animal that died of natural 
causes, not violence - yeah right! 





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
 


  
Wow! Hitler had a *skin boy*.

From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 4:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
 
  
 Yes, beware the color of your glasses.
-Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-rochus-misch-20130907,0,7348086.story

Rochus Misch never expressed regret over his wartime service or doubts about 
the man he and his comrades called the boss.

Misch was Adolf Hitler's 
bodyguard, messenger and telephone operator. He had tea and cookies with 
Hitler's sister in Vienna. He delivered a congratulatory bouquet from 
Hitler to a young musician who had just announced his engagement. He was in the 
next room of the infamous Berlin bunker when Hitler and Eva Braun, the longtime 
mistress who two days earlier 
had become the Nazi leader's wife, killed themselves on April 30, 1945.

Misch, the last survivor of the entourage holed up in Hitler's underground 
lair, died in Berlin on Thursday. He was 96.

His death was confirmed to 
the Associated Press by Burkhard Nachtigall, an author who helped Misch 
write his 2008 memoir, The Last Witness.

In numerous interviews over the years, including a lengthy 2004 oral history 
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, Misch said he had no knowledge of the 
millions of deaths by genocide at Nazi concentration camps.

I ask you, if Hitler really did all the terrible things people now 
say he did, how could he have been our Fuhrer? Misch said in a 2005 
Salon interview. How is that possible?

At the war's end, Misch was captured by Russian soldiers invading 
Berlin, tortured in prison and sent to work camps in Kazakhstan and 
Siberia until his release in 1953. He was never charged with a war 
crime. Summoned as a witness to the Nuremberg trials, he was not called 
to testify.

A former member of an elite Nazi SS guard, Misch drew outrage from 
critics with his nonchalant approval of Hitler decades after the war.

He is the most unrepentant and unapologetic Hitler supporter you 
could ever have the misfortune to meet, a reporter for the London 
Sunday Express wrote in 2003.

It was a good time with Hitler, Misch said in the article, which 
was based on a 2 1/2-hour interview. I enjoyed it and I was proud to 
work for him.

Born in what is now Poland on July 29, 1917, Misch was raised by his 
grandparents. His soldier father died of a battlefield wound three days 
before Misch was born. Three years later, his mother died of pneumonia.
Misch studied painting but in 1937 volunteered for a four-year tour 
in the German army, hoping, he later explained, to protect Europe from 
the incursions of Stalin. He was shot in the chest during the German 
invasion of Poland in 1939.

Impressing his commanding officers, the convalescing Misch won a spot on the 
unit that provided Hitler with personal aides and bodyguards. 
Recalling his first meeting with Hitler, at the Reich Chancellery, Misch told 
the BBC: I felt cold, then hot. I felt every emotion.

He wasn't a monster or a superhuman, Misch told the Express in 
2011. He stood across from me like a completely normal man with nice 
words.

Misch said accounts of Hitler as an aberrant personality suddenly flying into 
rages or plunging into depression never rang true.

When Misch married his wife, Gerda, on New Year's Eve in 1942, Hitler gave him 
1,000 marks and 40 bottles of wine. When Gerda became pregnant in 1944, Eva 
Braun sent her a baby carriage.

Still, Misch on several occasions came across Hitler in what appeared to be 
moments of intense melancholy. Late one night in the German 
dictator's living room, Misch saw him in a trance-like state staring at an oil 
painting of Frederick the Great that was flickering in the 
candlelight, he told the Express. I felt like an intruder interrupting 
someone in the middle of prayer.

In 1944, Misch witnessed the attempted assassination of Hitler by top generals.
In the Reich's final days the next year, Misch was manning the 
bunker's phones when Hitler gathered his remaining staff for

[FairfieldLife] RE: Bad Habits, revisited

2013-09-09 Thread anartaxius

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

I have done it occasionally and it feels good once or twice then it kind of 
like J Alex was saying he can't even make himself do it.

 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal 
(Meditating) Fairfield

I bet if you sat down and did it today, you would be surprised. I say that, not 
as a fanatic encouraging regular practice, but as someone who goes about my 
practice by fits and starts these days. Much more choice, than prescription. 
After all, I paid $65 bucks for it, 38 years ago, and I am a cheap son of a 
bitch. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Back in the day when I was  TM fanatic I was a single meditator for a god 
portion of that time - I had a few friends with whom we would do group TMSP, 
maybe 4 - 6 of us males and there would be 2 - 3 women doing program in another 
room of the house - usually it was me, my roommate and one other guy - this was 
back when hooting and hollering was considered de rigueur so we did lots of it 
- then I had that 2 year stint at MIU where of course we HAD to be in the Domes 
twice a day - at first I was excited and thought it was so cool to see miles of 
foam stretching in all directions, but then after a few programs the reality of 
group TMSP set in where you realize half the people are asleep, half of the 
flyers are just sitting there with the eyes open looking around and snickering 
about certain ones who were making unusually odd noises - frankly for me I got 
more out of the old pre-TMSP group meditations on residence courses.

But all that's behind me as I don't do TM no mo. 

 From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 12:41 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal 
(Meditating) Fairfield

Back in the day, I was notorious for having giggling fits on rounding courses! 
One could always blame it on stress release but, to be honest, I think 
emotional immaturity was the more honest cause in my case!

I'm genuinely surprised more people don't use the lotus posture - it certainly 
looks more impressive to onlookers! - and those (female) followers who liked 
wearing saris (which look fantastic) surely would have wanted to play the role 
of eastern adept to the full just for the fun of it. 

I'm in two minds about the advantages of group meditation. Sometimes the (real 
or imagined) psychic feedback from the other participants can be energising 
but, on the other hand, I feel very self-conscious about every yawn, cough or 
fidgeting I am subject to irritating others in the room.

As an alternative to sitting in a chair I did once buy a meditation stool - but 
it just made my knees ache! Would you recommend BackJack chairs? Presumably you 
sit crossed-legged on them? 

Are there other types of meditation furniture that anyone on FFL would 
recommend? 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Seraphita, some people sit in chairs. Most of us sit against backjacks on 
foam. I don't see many sitting in lotus. And I don't see anyone looking down 
on anyone else! I definitely prefer doing TMSP in a group rather than alone. 
Subjectively TMSP feels deeper when I practice in a group. And I do believe 
that I contribute more to the coherence when I practice TMSP with others. As 
regards your other post, giggling does happen, especially when there are new 
sidhas in the group. That's always fun (-:

RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread doctordumbass

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread doctordumbass

[FairfieldLife] RE: Computers prove Existence of God

2013-09-09 Thread jr_esq

RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread anartaxius

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread Mike Dixon

Michael, where do you get the idea that the skins have to come from animals 
that died of natural causes? No rules, dude. Violence is natural. Ask any 
tiger. I always loved to hear some fool tell another fool about how M got his 
deer skin. One(deer) walked across his path and then suddenly died. LOL 
Satyanand was asked where they got them and he said they shoot'em , we 
buy',em. I've been told that some of M's skins came from Texas. Seems there 
are more Black Buck Antelope and Tigers in Texas than in India. Back in the 
fifties ranchers imported them and raised them for *canned* hunts. Now you can 
see entire herds, (not the tigers) off of fenced land, grazing along the sides 
of roads.

 


 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
  
   
 
Isn't it a little early for the sandwich boards, MJ?

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Ha ha ha! I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right. All those guru 
types, demagogues and dictators need little snakes to allow the big snakes to 
crawl around eating up whatever they want. Come to think of it, the skin boy 
idea is ludicrous but not surprising, I mean if a man is a yogi, a realized 
master what the heck does he have to worry about what kind of vibe exists where 
he is sitting? And the rule is supposed to be that the deer or tiger skin has 
to come from an animal that died of natural causes, not violence - yeah right! 

 


 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
  
 
  
Wow! Hitler had a *skin boy*.
 
 From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 4:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
  
  
 Yes, beware the color of your glasses.
-Buck 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-rochus-misch-20130907,0,7348086.story

Rochus Misch never expressed regret over his wartime service or doubts about 
the man he and his comrades called the boss. 

Misch was Adolf Hitler's 
bodyguard, messenger and telephone operator. He had tea and cookies with 
Hitler's sister in Vienna. He delivered a congratulatory bouquet from 
Hitler to a young musician who had just announced his engagement. He was in the 
next room of the infamous Berlin bunker when Hitler and Eva Braun, the longtime 
mistress who two days earlier 
had become the Nazi leader's wife, killed themselves on April 30, 1945. 

Misch, the last survivor of the entourage holed up in Hitler's underground 
lair, died in Berlin on Thursday. He was 96. 

His death was confirmed to 
the Associated Press by Burkhard Nachtigall, an author who helped Misch 
write his 2008 memoir, The Last Witness. 

In numerous interviews over the years, including a lengthy 2004 oral history 
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, Misch said he had no knowledge of the 
millions of deaths by genocide at Nazi concentration camps. 

I ask you, if Hitler really did all the terrible things people now 
say he did, how could he have been our Fuhrer? Misch said in a 2005 
Salon interview. How is that possible? 

At the war's end, Misch was captured by Russian soldiers invading 
Berlin, tortured in prison and sent to work camps in Kazakhstan and 
Siberia until his release in 1953. He was never charged with a war 
crime. Summoned as a witness to the Nuremberg trials, he was not called 
to testify. 

A former member of an elite Nazi SS guard, Misch drew outrage from 
critics with his nonchalant approval of Hitler decades after the war. 

He is the most unrepentant and unapologetic Hitler supporter you 
could ever have the misfortune to meet, a reporter for the London 
Sunday Express wrote in 2003. 

It was a good time with Hitler, Misch said in the article, which 
was based on a 2 1/2-hour interview. I enjoyed it and I was proud to 
work for him. 

Born in what is now Poland on July 29, 1917, Misch was raised by his 
grandparents. His soldier father died of a battlefield wound three days 
before Misch was born. Three years later, his mother died of pneumonia. 
Misch studied painting but in 1937 volunteered for a four-year tour 
in the German army, hoping, he later explained, to protect Europe from 
the incursions of Stalin. He was shot in the chest during the German 
invasion of Poland in 1939. 

Impressing his commanding officers, the convalescing Misch won a spot on the 
unit that provided Hitler with personal aides and bodyguards. 
Recalling his first meeting with Hitler, at the Reich Chancellery, Misch told 
the BBC: I felt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba

Tesing Neo. Finding Neo test one testicle two.
Nemo or Neo? 

Ann, hahahahaha. Demented alright. 
I am not going anywhere, even if I go somewhere. I love 
FFL because you peeps are great. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann Woelfle Bater awoelflebater@... 
wrote:

 Hang in there Obba. It will get better. We will, like lab rats, eventually 
 adapt to all this newness and once again FFL will be the vibrant and 
 brilliant community it once was before NEO. But for the time being, as we all 
 attempt to figure out how to post with colour, include images, have our posts 
 actually show up or at least appear within 24 hours, we must just live with 
 the faith that it is all for our spiritual growth and evolution. It is 
 comical actually, because it is like being in some demented time warp never 
 being sure that an response will show up after an initial post is made or if 
 it will appear in triplicate. Trying to keep choronlogy straight is also a 
 mind bender but for God's sake woman, don't abandon ship!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba

Testing. No messages from my post and only 4 from others today, so far. Oh well.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Tesing Neo. Finding Neo test one testicle two.
 Nemo or Neo? 
 
 Ann, hahahahaha. Demented alright. 
 I am not going anywhere, even if I go somewhere. I love 
 FFL because you peeps are great. 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann Woelfle Bater awoelflebater@ 
 wrote:
 
  Hang in there Obba. It will get better. We will, like lab rats, eventually 
  adapt to all this newness and once again FFL will be the vibrant and 
  brilliant community it once was before NEO. But for the time being, as we 
  all attempt to figure out how to post with colour, include images, have our 
  posts actually show up or at least appear within 24 hours, we must just 
  live with the faith that it is all for our spiritual growth and evolution. 
  It is comical actually, because it is like being in some demented time warp 
  never being sure that an response will show up after an initial post is 
  made or if it will appear in triplicate. Trying to keep choronlogy straight 
  is also a mind bender but for God's sake woman, don't abandon ship!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba

They are cramping my style. If they have a bone to pick with me, tell them to 
stop sharing my photos! lol

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 The NSA has a reduced staff on weekends so they don't get to your posts 
 as fast. ;-)
 
 On 09/08/2013 06:08 PM, obbajeeba wrote:
 
  So frustrating. I am used to going to my inbox and seeing all the 
  posts in order and reading them when I have time. If I get so moved 
  and have the desire to type these keys, I go to the FFL Yahoo Group 
  Message board and yank the chains I see fit to yank.
  Today, I got about 9 posts in my inbox, not including mine earlier, 
  that most likely will arrive tomorrow.
  Why is there such delay, Yahoo?
  Annoyed with blissful coconut oil anointed in my eyes (Accidentally 
  smeared too much on my face. I was making Gulab Jamun for today's 
  Happy Ganepathi Namha Day, using coconut oil to fry in.) which is just 
  as annoying these delays. I wish to stoke Share's hair and Ravi's 
  mane. Come on, Yahoo. Get with it!
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Testing. Please do not tally my tests.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ 
  wrote:
   
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[FairfieldLife] Robonaut to Get Legs

2013-09-09 Thread jr_esq

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Survival

2013-09-09 Thread wleed3

one can purchase  MRE's from  surplus military stores also I opine on the net 
as well cheaper on the net



In a message dated 09/09/13 16:46:26 Eastern Daylight Time, 
noozg...@sbcglobal.net writes:



Back over 10 years ago I bought an earthquake emergency pack at a local 
hardware store.  As it expired I tried the energy bars and found they were 
highly sweetened.  Instead of giving me energy those would have laid me on my 
back.  I took to buying stuff to keep around that I would actually eat and 
would eat before expiration just replacing them.  I tried an eFoods sample pack 
and found though it tasted good two of the items were soy protein and I seem to 
have a little allergy to that.  I am thinking of keeping some MREs on hand but 
so many of the sample packs included beef meals which I don't eat.  They are 
missing out selling to the semi-veg group who might be interested in chicken 
and seafood MREs.  I mainly though know how to make stuff and keep some canned 
meats on hand.


On 09/08/2013 10:09 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
Re There's a US series by National Geographic called Doomsday Preppers: I 
caught a bit of that. It intrigued me the different approaches taken. Some 
people had containers hidden away stocked with tinned food and all the usual 
stuff whereas others took the view that in a real breakdown of law and order 
you'd never be able to keep other desperate individuals away from your stash so 
the better approach was to learn how to live off the land and have a tent and 
backpack ready. There's an old money-saving adage to never buy stuff until you 
actually need it so it's astonishing to see how much wealth people have sunk 
into stores and equipment they'll likely never use.

[FairfieldLife] Explaining the latest NSA revelations - Q A's

2013-09-09 Thread emptybill

Explaining the latest NSA revelations  QA with internet privacy
experts
The  Guardian's James Ball and cryptology expert Bruce Schneier answer 
questions about revelations that spy agencies in the US and UK have 
cracked internet privacy tools




http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/06/nsa-surveillance-re\
velations-encryption-expert-chat
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/06/nsa-surveillance-r\
evelations-encryption-expert-chat

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

David Lynch and friends do that, so I don't need to.

 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

Isn't it a little early for the sandwich boards, MJ?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Ha ha ha! I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right. All those guru 
types, demagogues and dictators need little snakes to allow the big snakes to 
crawl around eating up whatever they want. 

Come to think of it, the skin boy idea is ludicrous but not surprising, I mean 
if a man is a yogi, a realized master what the heck does he have to worry about 
what kind of vibe exists where he is sitting? And the rule is supposed to be 
that the deer or tiger skin has to come from an animal that died of natural 
causes, not violence - yeah right! 

 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

Wow! Hitler had a *skin boy*.

From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 4:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

 Yes, beware the color of your glasses.
-Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-rochus-misch-20130907,0,7348086.story

Rochus Misch never expressed regret over his wartime service or doubts about 
the man he and his comrades called the boss.

Misch was Adolf Hitler's 
bodyguard, messenger and telephone operator. He had tea and cookies with 
Hitler's sister in Vienna. He delivered a congratulatory bouquet from 
Hitler to a young musician who had just announced his engagement. He was in the 
next room of the infamous Berlin bunker when Hitler and Eva Braun, the longtime 
mistress who two days earlier 
had become the Nazi leader's wife, killed themselves on April 30, 1945.

Misch, the last survivor of the entourage holed up in Hitler's underground 
lair, died in Berlin on Thursday. He was 96.

His death was confirmed to 
the Associated Press by Burkhard Nachtigall, an author who helped Misch 
write his 2008 memoir, The Last Witness.

In numerous interviews over the years, including a lengthy 2004 oral history 
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, Misch said he had no knowledge of the 
millions of deaths by genocide at Nazi concentration camps.

I ask you, if Hitler really did all the terrible things people now 
say he did, how could he have been our Fuhrer? Misch said in a 2005 
Salon interview. How is that possible?

At the war's end, Misch was captured by Russian soldiers invading 
Berlin, tortured in prison and sent to work camps in Kazakhstan and 
Siberia until his release in 1953. He was never charged with a war 
crime. Summoned as a witness to the Nuremberg trials, he was not called 
to testify.

A former member of an elite Nazi SS guard, Misch drew outrage from 
critics with his nonchalant approval of Hitler decades after the war.

He is the most unrepentant and unapologetic Hitler supporter you 
could ever have the misfortune to meet, a reporter for the London 
Sunday Express wrote in 2003.

It was a good time with Hitler, Misch said in the article, which 
was based on a 2 1/2-hour interview. I enjoyed it and I was proud to 
work for him.

Born in what is now Poland on July 29, 1917, Misch was raised by his 
grandparents. His soldier father died of a battlefield wound three days 
before Misch was born. Three years later, his mother died of pneumonia.
Misch studied painting but in 1937 volunteered for a four-year tour 
in the German army, hoping, he later explained, to protect Europe from 
the incursions of Stalin. He was shot in the chest during the German 
invasion of Poland in 1939.

Impressing his commanding officers, the convalescing Misch won a spot on the 
unit that provided Hitler with personal aides and bodyguards. 
Recalling his first meeting with Hitler, at the Reich Chancellery, Misch told 
the BBC: I felt cold, then hot. I felt every emotion.

He wasn't a monster or a superhuman, Misch told the Express in 
2011. He stood across from me like a completely normal man with nice 
words.

Misch said accounts of Hitler as an aberrant personality suddenly flying into 
rages or plunging into depression never rang true.

When Misch married his wife, Gerda, on New Year's Eve in 1942, Hitler gave him 
1,000 marks and 40 bottles of wine. When Gerda became pregnant in 1944, Eva 
Braun sent her a baby carriage.

Still, Misch on several occasions came across Hitler in what appeared to be 
moments of intense melancholy. Late one night in the German 
dictator's living room,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba

Oh, Alex! I know! I was being silly. :)
Thank you.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Computers prove Existence of God

2013-09-09 Thread s3raphita

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread LEnglish5

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread Arhata Osho



 
Arhata

arhataosho.com



 From: gregorygor...@yahoo.com gregorygor...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, 9 September 2013, 16:07
Subject: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing 
Communal (Meditating) Fairfield
 


  
I learned tm in stpaul,minnesota a year ago and I  always wonder if ive 
actually transcended thought or not . I feel ive had a few deep experiences on 
rare occasions, kind of like I was freefalling through space for a second or 
now and then I feel like outside world totally disapperared while meditating, 
so silent inside myself. but It seemed like I didn't let my meditation 
naturally unfold. my teacher said I wouldn't have the same experience every 
time. ive been to a few checking sessions but its too far away for me to drive 
really. I wish the tm organization had videos on the mechanics of tm for people 
like me that have already paid to learn the technique but cant be present at 
group sessions etc that I could purchase or download .  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


There comes a point where techniques fail. Now I still do TM but not all the 
time. Most of the spiritual techniques I have had have failed to be relevant. 
If I have certain kinds of fatigue, TM seems OK, it is especially nice 
sometimes when I am transitioning out of sleep (this might seem very odd to 
some); at other times I do an analogue of Zazen, which is basically TM without 
a mantra, and not moving. When I am very clear, this kind of meditation does 
not present any resistance. One reason TM fails is it is designed to transcend 
thought; if thought is already 'transcended', it has nothing to do, so 
resistance is experienced because you are trying to do something that is not 
necessary, even if, as the story about this technique goes, the technique is 
supposed to be 'effortless'. 

As the experience of being becomes more pronounced as unity is uncovered, there 
is less and less for techniques to do, and at this point one has to start to 
figure out what to do on one's own. If meditation techniques failed because you 
gave up, the whole enterprise is a failure, but if they failed because 
everything that was supposed to happen more or less happened (the result might 
be somewhat different that what you expected), then you are awake, and the next 
step is integrating what you realised with the rest of your life and nobody can 
tell you how to do this, you have to figure it out for yourself (you know, 
'self-sufficiency'), and this is not a matter of technique: it is a matter of 
insight, balance, and resolve.

There are times too, before awakening, when you get overloaded with spiritual 
crap, and you need a vacation from it. You don't want to talk about it or hear 
about it. You want to do something else for a while. You can still practice 
techniques, you just do not give a damn for a while about what it is all 
supposed to be about. Which is good because it is not about what it is supposed 
to be about. That is the cover story, which is designed to keep you occupied 
while the techniques undermine from below and eventually show you the cover 
story was a fraud.

TM transcends thought inwardly, but eventually inwardly as a direction does not 
exist, roundabout 'cosmic consciousness'. Awakening (unity), transcends your 
whole conceptual world outwardly, and then outwardly as a direction does not 
exist either. At this point meditation becomes at best a maintenance utility, 
and at this point you really do have to get a life to make progress and give 
depth and stability in living seamlessly with what was realised. You have to 
get creative, because the people around you, unless you happen to run into a 
deeply enlightened individual with tonnes of experience, are not going to 
understand what you are experiencing, and their attempts to 'tell you what you 
should do' will just fumble repeatedly.

So, my apologies for butting into this conversation.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MichaelJackson wrote:


I have done it [TM] occasionally and it feels good once or twice then it kind 
of like J Alex was saying he can't even make himself do it.

RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread LEnglish5

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.

2013-09-09 Thread Michael Jackson

I read it in other places too, but the previous quote sums it up - the same is 
supposed to apply to tiger skins as well.

http://www.ocoy.org/dharma-for-christians/bhagavad-gita-for-awakening/the-yogis-inner-and-outer-life/





 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
 


  
Michael, where do you get the idea that the skins have to come from animals 
that died of natural causes? No rules, dude. Violence is natural. Ask any 
tiger. I always loved to hear some fool tell another fool about how M got his 
deer skin. One(deer) walked across his path and then suddenly died. LOL 
Satyanand was asked where they got them and he said they shoot'em , we 
buy',em. I've been told that some of M's skins came from Texas. Seems there 
are more Black Buck Antelope and Tigers in Texas than in India. Back in the 
fifties ranchers imported them and raised them for *canned* hunts. Now you can 
see entire herds, (not the tigers) off of fenced land, grazing along the sides 
of roads.

From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
 
  
Isn't it a little early for the sandwich boards, MJ?

 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Ha ha ha! I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right. All those guru 
types, demagogues and dictators need little snakes to allow the big snakes to 
crawl around eating up whatever they want. Come to think of it, the skin boy 
idea is ludicrous but not surprising, I mean if a man is a yogi, a realized 
master what the heck does he have to worry about what kind of vibe exists where 
he is sitting? And the rule is supposed to be that the deer or tiger skin has 
to come from an animal that died of natural causes, not violence - yeah right! 


From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
 
  
Wow! Hitler had a *skin boy*.

From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 4:12 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: See? Anyone can wear the rosy glasses.
 
  
 Yes, beware the color of your glasses.
-Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
http://www.latimes.com/obituaries/la-me-rochus-misch-20130907,0,7348086.story

Rochus Misch never expressed regret over his wartime service or doubts about 
the man he and his comrades called the boss.

Misch was Adolf Hitler's 
bodyguard, messenger and telephone operator. He had tea and cookies with 
Hitler's sister in Vienna. He delivered a congratulatory bouquet from 
Hitler to a young musician who had just announced his engagement. He was in the 
next room of the infamous Berlin bunker when Hitler and Eva Braun, the longtime 
mistress who two days earlier 
had become the Nazi leader's wife, killed themselves on April 30, 1945.

Misch, the last survivor of the entourage holed up in Hitler's underground 
lair, died in Berlin on Thursday. He was 96.

His death was confirmed to 
the Associated Press by Burkhard Nachtigall, an author who helped Misch write 
his 2008 memoir, The Last Witness.

In numerous interviews over the years, including a lengthy 2004 oral history 
with the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, Misch said he had no knowledge of the 
millions of deaths by genocide at Nazi concentration camps.

I ask you, if Hitler really did all the terrible things people now 
say he did, how could he have been our Fuhrer? Misch said in a 2005 
Salon interview. How is that possible?

At the war's end, Misch was captured by Russian soldiers invading 
Berlin, tortured in prison and sent to work camps in Kazakhstan and 
Siberia until his release in 1953. He was never charged with a war 
crime. Summoned as a witness to the Nuremberg trials, he was not called 
to testify.

A former member of an elite Nazi SS guard, Misch drew outrage from 
critics with his nonchalant approval of Hitler decades after the war.

He is the most unrepentant and unapologetic Hitler supporter you 
could ever have the misfortune to meet, a reporter for the London 
Sunday Express wrote in 2003.

It was a good time with Hitler, Misch said in the article, which 
was based on a 2 1/2-hour interview. I enjoyed it and I was proud to 
work for him.

Born in what is now Poland on July 29, 1917, Misch was raised by his 
grandparents. His soldier father died of a battlefield wound three days 
before Misch was born. Three years later, his mother died of pneumonia.
Misch studied painting but in 1937 volunteered for a four-year tour 
in the German

[FairfieldLife] RE: Reducing Tension in the Middle East

2013-09-09 Thread s3raphita

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread gregorygorbin

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Tue 10-Sep-13 00:15:06 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread FFL PostCount

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Tue 10-Sep-13 00:15:06 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba


Testing.
Share does her regular program and can manage to stay on top, even with the 
ever changing Neo/FFL board. She is Hercules! Or Rocky? 
Go figure.

Clearly, this new format and the holding back on our post by the Yahoo/NSA is 
cutting down the number of posts even compared to when there was a post count 
limit.

Go Figure.
Testing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote:

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  11 iranitea 
  11 Bhairitu 
  10 turquoiseb 
  10 Michael Jackson 
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   6 authfriend
   6 Ann Woelfle Bater 
   5 sharelong60 
   5 jr_esq
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   4 awoelflebater
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   3 feste37 
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   3 Mike Dixon 
   3 Emily Reyn 
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   2 compost1uk 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Tue 10-Sep-13 00:15:06 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba

Yep. Why would (Testing)yahoo just all of a sudden change things where one 
cannot receive emails on time?
The only thing I can honestly believe, is their changing software, etc., issues 
coincide with certain politicians and companies wanting to go to war. Sorry to 
sound like a conspiracy theorist, just how can I come to any other conclusion 
with all of these things at least appearing like a coincidence? 
Call me anything you like, I (Testing) would love to be able to normally 
function like my morning bowel movement, in these confines we call FFL Yahoo 
Group Message Board.
Amen. Om.
Bing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 
 Testing.
 Share does her regular program and can manage to stay on top, even with the 
 ever changing Neo/FFL board. She is Hercules! Or Rocky? 
 Go figure.
 
 Clearly, this new format and the holding back on our post by the Yahoo/NSA is 
 cutting down the number of posts even compared to when there was a post count 
 limit.
 
 Go Figure.
 Testing.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote:
 
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   12 emptybill 
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   11 Bhairitu 
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6 authfriend
6 Ann Woelfle Bater 
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5 jr_esq
5 LEnglish5
4 awoelflebater
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3 feste37 
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3 Mike Dixon 
3 Emily Reyn 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Tue 10-Sep-13 00:15:06 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba

I had to post this twice to get it posted. I cut and pasted the content and 
scrolled back to last screen and I did send it as it shows, but not on the FFL 
message board, until I hit send, by resending again. What is going on? 
Crop circles?  Ufo's?   Lizard people?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@... wrote:

 Yep. Why would (Testing)yahoo just all of a sudden change things where one 
 cannot receive emails on time?
 The only thing I can honestly believe, is their changing software, etc., 
 issues coincide with certain politicians and companies wanting to go to war. 
 Sorry to sound like a conspiracy theorist, just how can I come to any other 
 conclusion with all of these things at least appearing like a coincidence? 
 Call me anything you like, I (Testing) would love to be able to normally 
 function like my morning bowel movement, in these confines we call FFL Yahoo 
 Group Message Board.
 Amen. Om.
 Bing.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  Testing.
  Share does her regular program and can manage to stay on top, even with the 
  ever changing Neo/FFL board. She is Hercules! Or Rocky? 
  Go figure.
  
  Clearly, this new format and the holding back on our post by the Yahoo/NSA 
  is cutting down the number of posts even compared to when there was a post 
  count limit.
  
  Go Figure.
  Testing.
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread obbajeeba

Share, I am sure anything coconut is good. One coconut falls from the tree and 
hits one in head, that too. 
The gulab jamun balls went over big time here. :)
Ganesh is removing obstacles alright. Enough to remove me from posting here and 
doing other things that they can't monitor me doing. hahaha


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Obbajee, I drink coconut water every day. I hope that counts as coconut oil 
 in the hair can be quite messy if cooling to the pitta brain (-:
 Praying that Ganesha remove all Neo and non Neo obstacles to your posting! 
 Jai Ganesha!
 
 
 
 
 
  From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 8:08 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC
  
 
 
 Â  
 So frustrating. I am used to going to my inbox and seeing all the posts in 
 order and reading them when I have time. If I get so moved and have the 
 desire to type these keys, I go to the FFL Yahoo Group Message board and yank 
 the chains I see fit to yank. 
 Today, I got about 9 posts in my inbox, not including mine earlier, that most 
 likely will arrive tomorrow. 
 Why is there such delay, Yahoo?
 Annoyed with blissful coconut oil anointed in my eyes (Accidentally smeared 
 too much on my face. I was making Gulab Jamun for today's Happy Ganepathi 
 Namha Day, using coconut oil to fry in.)  which is just as annoying these 
 delays. I wish to stoke Share's hair and Ravi's mane. Come on, Yahoo. Get 
 with it!
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Testing. Please do not tally my tests.
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Tue 10-Sep-13 00:15:06 UTC

2013-09-09 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater

Hang in there testing, it must be a test.

[FairfieldLife] RE: Dear Prudence â an interview with Prudence Farrow

2013-09-09 Thread s3raphita

[FairfieldLife] Marianne Faithfull’s memories of sex in the 60s

2013-09-09 Thread s3raphita

RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread awoelflebater

[FairfieldLife] RE: Marianne Faithfullâs memories of sex in the 60s

2013-09-09 Thread s3raphita

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread authfriend

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2013-09-09 Thread doctordumbass

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

2013-09-09 Thread turquoiseb

Posted By:  
s3raphita sez:
  
 That's a classic double-bind.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
  If you even attempt to answer the question, then 
  I become reasonably confident that I no longer 
  need to pay attention to you in this context.

I see it more as a declaration of Maharishi's
My Subjective Experience Rules! rule, other-
wise known as My subjective experience *defines*
the situation. If yours is different, it's wrong.

This is a very useful rule, in that it allows 
those who invoke it to throw around terms like
mantra that only *they* are allowed to define.

It also allows people who haven't actually thought
the mantra they were taught as part of learning
TM in years, or followed the instructions they were
given *when* they learned to claim they're still 
doing TM. 

Very useful rule. 

:-)

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