Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
Argue-Bot, vowing not to start future arguments with victim:
  
  Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything 
  with you until you've documented your accusations, or 
  withdrawn them.

Victim, calling her bluff:
 
 I did notice that you did not document a number of comments 
 you made here. But this response simplifies things immensely 
 because if this is true, anything I write to you here on FFL 
 in the absence of my documentation here with regard to these 
 points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the 
 thread, by your own words must stop you from responding if 
 you do not wish to go back on your word. Very Robinish!

This should be interesting. 

Judy either LIED above about not discussing anything
with this particular victim du jour, or she didn't.

What's the FFL consensus? That is, how long until 
she's ragging on him again, trying to get him to
respond to her, and thus get sucked into her 
eternally-dueling-egos Tarbaby scenario? She 
*did*, after all, specify I'm not going to 
discuss ANYTHING with you until... He's clearly
not going to jump through hoops, fall for the
taunt, and cater to her demands. So if she writes
to him in the future, she LIED. Simple as that.

Can you say, Hoist on one's own petard? I think
you can.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Yehova or Yahve?

2013-09-23 Thread cardemaister













[FairfieldLife] RE: Yehova or Yahve?

2013-09-23 Thread cardemaister













[FairfieldLife] Re: Yehova or Yahve?

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
Card writes:

 This is really funny?

 I'll try to explain it as best as I can...

 When Moses asks what the name of the Burning Bush is, He replies

 ehyee asher ehyee  (I shall be what I shall be: I am what I am).

Sounds like the right translation to me...   :-)

http://de-motivational-posters.com/images/burning-bush-bible-belt-all-th\
e-way.jpg
http://de-motivational-posters.com/images/burning-bush-bible-belt-all-t\
he-way.jpg

  [funny de motivational poster: Burning Bush - Bible belt all the way.]




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Autumn Equinox Is Today

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
John, for 9 years I've had such a feng shui crystal, though mine is pink, 
hanging from the lamp on my desk about 3 inches from an east facing window. I 
know what you mean. They are beautiful. 





 From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:18 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Autumn Equinox Is Today
 


  
 Share,

I've been influenced by the kaleidoscope of colors that I see as the Sun sets 
down to the west on a sunny afternoon.  You see, I've hung a small faceted 
crystal ball on my office window to witness this rainbow magic.  In the same 
way, I've now understood how the light of the Sun can influence life here on 
earth as the seasons pass during the revolution of the Earth around the Sun.

By the way, this faceted crystal ball is also a good feng shui remedy to bring 
good luck or chi into your living area.  Even if you don't believe in this 
remedy, you'll definitely enjoy the light show everyday when the Sun shines 
through your window.  :)




--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


John, yes, I figured that's what you were doing. But what you say about the 
debilitated Sun and falling govt makes sense. Anyway I thought you were a one 
system guy. Now I know better (-:

Happy Autumn!




 From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 7:21 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Autumn Equinox Is Today
 


  
 Share,

In this particular case, I'm using the Western astrology method of calculating 
the placement of the Sun.  However, using the jyotish method, you are right in 
saying that the Sun is still in Virgo, due to the ayanamsha being used to 
compensate for the earth's precession.

According to western astrology, today is the start of Libra, where the Sun is 
literally taking its fall.  Given the circumstances that are going on in 
Washington DC, it appears that the federal government (represented by the Sun) 
is about to fall due to power struggles by our politicians.



--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


John, according to my ephemeris, the Sun just went into Virgo where it will be 
until Oct 16!







 From: jr_esq@... jr_esq@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Autumn Equinox Is Today
 


  
We are now astrologically in the season of Autumn.  May all enjoy the turning 
of the leaves to the colors of flame.


Since the Sun is now debilitated in the sign of Libra, we are facing another 
battle in Congress to increase the debt limit.  There is a very good 
possibility that the federal government will be shut down until the issues are 
settled.


http://http://www.almanac.com/content/first-day-fall-autumnal-equinox





 

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2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for privacy 
to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. And even in this argument, Xeno sounds 
like a philosophical friend. In such circumstances, can't 2 little words *if 
true* be given a positive spin by you? Or at least a neutral one?! Your sort of 
knee jerk response feels like you're wasting a potential friendship with Xeno.




 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: 
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but y is 
true.

I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.

But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is rather 
your pattern of deviousness

OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, with 
examples.

I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going to be 
pretty difficult.

and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective evaluation by 
which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me of the tenant portrayed 
by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. You begin with the appearance of 
being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by 
starting arguments

I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many others here. 
Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?

or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages 
in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either 
accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an 
emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Yeah, I don't do any of that. And I'm quite sure you know it.

And in fact, I undoubtedly engage in some of the same when I am arguing with 
you; there does not seem to be much choice if one wants to continue the 
discussion. I do not like to sow discord, but it inevitably happens when we get 
into a discussion.

Do I ever lie? The answer is yes. Even M recommended lying under certain 
circumstances. This world of illusion is rotten to the core. Do you ever lie? 
Of all the people currently on FFL, you accuse others of lying more than 
anyone. That is of course, my other reason for suspecting you of a lack of 
integrity.

That's not a rational reason, of course. And I don't just accuse, I document my 
accusations.

Certain people seem to manage to create the aura of integrity without insisting 
others prove their own or without asking others to apologise for doubting 
theirs. The late Senator Moynihan from New York comes to mind, a rarity in the 
political world. In my world, the personal aspect of life really cannot have 
integrity; only the whole of life has integrity, but that is not the integrity 
arrived at by conforming to a model of behaviour; it is simply it cannot be 
compared to anything else.

Blablabla...more irrelevant bafflegab.

I just find it disingenuous that you try to ride the moral high horse, from 
which you have fallen long ago

Please give the specifics of this claim (including when this falling 
purportedly happened).

you are rather lifting the tail of a dead one. I never really could ride a 
horse myself. As an individual body, there is always something corruptible when 
compared to some fictional higher standard. If you want to discuss philosophy 
or science or music, fine. But this issue of your alleged, self-promoted 
integrity and the incredible lack of it in others is not a viable subject.


As I reminded Curtis when he tried this ploy, the only time I promote my 
integrity is when I'm accused of having a lack of it. It's not an uncommon 
response from people I've caught being dishonest, but never has anybody been 
able to make it stick. Rarely is an example even given, just the vague charge. 
Vaj used to do that a lot.

Why don't we discuss Mozart?

Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything with you until you've 
documented your accusations, or withdrawn them.

You bit off a lot more than you can chew here.


 

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Yehova or Yahve?

2013-09-23 Thread Duveyoung













[FairfieldLife] Oprah reaps the benefits of the unified field....

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[FairfieldLife] Kryon on Jews

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

My statement about Judy being prejudiced toward anyone
living in Texas still stands. Let's see, how many times did she
address me as 'willytex', AFTER I told her my name was Richard
at least six times?

Judy hates people from Texas so ergo, she hates George W.
 Bush. So, she called him a liar. Judy is a hateful hypocrite.

It's no coincidence that Whole Foods is headquartered in Texas
so she told a fib about visiting the store in New Jersey. I guess
she thought she could get away with fibbing, but I caught her
lying. Now she's really upset - can't deal with it, I guess.

Case closed.

On 9/23/2013 6:45 AM, Share Long wrote:
Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire 
for privacy to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. And even in this 
argument, Xeno sounds like a philosophical friend. In such 
circumstances, can't 2 little words *if true* be given a positive spin 
by you? Or at least a neutral one?! Your sort of knee jerk response 
feels like you're wasting a potential friendship with Xeno.



*From:* authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:53 PM
*Subject:* RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods


*Xeno wrote: *

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for 
your suspicion that what I had written was a lie?'


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but 
y is true.


*I am looking for an explanation of /why/ you think this.*

But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It 
is rather your pattern of deviousness


*OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of 
deviousness, with examples.*

*
*
*I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going 
to be pretty difficult.*


and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective 
evaluation by which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me 
of the tenant portrayed by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. 
You begin with the appearance of being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the 
Internet by starting arguments


*I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many 
others here. Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?*


or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic 
messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), 
either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers 
into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic 
discussion.


*Yeah, I don't do any of that. And I'm quite sure you know it.*

And in fact, I undoubtedly engage in some of the same when I am 
arguing with you; there does not seem to be much choice if one wants 
to continue the discussion. I do not like to sow discord, but it 
inevitably happens when we get into a discussion.


Do I ever lie? The answer is yes. Even M recommended lying under 
certain circumstances. This world of illusion is rotten to the core. 
Do you ever lie? Of all the people currently on FFL, you accuse others 
of lying more than anyone. That is of course, my other reason for 
suspecting you of a lack of integrity.


*That's not a rational reason, of course. And I don't just accuse, I 
/document/ my accusations.*


Certain people seem to manage to create the aura of integrity without 
insisting others prove their own or without asking others to apologise 
for doubting theirs. The late Senator Moynihan from New York comes to 
mind, a rarity in the political world. In my world, the personal 
aspect of life really cannot have integrity; only the whole of life 
has integrity, but that is not the integrity arrived at by conforming 
to a model of behaviour; it is simply it cannot be compared to 
anything else.


*Blablabla...more irrelevant bafflegab.
*
I just find it disingenuous that you try to ride the moral high horse, 
from which you have fallen long ago


*Please give the specifics of this claim (including when this falling 
purportedly happened).*


you are rather lifting the tail of a dead one. I never really could 
ride a horse myself. As an individual body, there is always something 
corruptible when compared to some fictional higher standard. If you 
want to discuss philosophy or science or music, fine. But this issue 
of your alleged, self-promoted integrity and the incredible lack of it 
in others is not a viable subject.


*As I reminded Curtis when he tried this ploy, the only time I 
promote my integrity is when I'm accused of having a lack of it. 
It's not an uncommon response from people I've caught being dishonest, 
but never has anybody been able to make it stick. Rarely is an example 
even given, just the vague charge. Vaj used to do that a lot.*


Why don't we 

[FairfieldLife] 2013 Ig Nobel Awards

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 9/22/2013 8:13 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


On 9/22/2013 10:17 AM, Jason wrote:
 Holy mother Ganges!! You must have really offended both of
 them (Barry  Judy).

 I wonder what exactly you did, for both of them to shun you.

It's not complicated - they are both prejudiced against
people that live in Texas - they've said as much since 1999.

Barry and Judy have been encouraging everyone to shun
me for years. Go figure.

I probably posted 3,000 on-topic posts to alt.m.t. for five
years before I received a single reply from Judy.

Then, when I challenged her assertion that Bush lied - now
she really hates me for proving that John Kerry is a liar.

John Kerry did NOT spend Christmas of 1968 in Cambodia!

In Barry's case, he is still mad at me for poking fun at the
Zen Master Rama - but he pokes fun at MMY all the time.

Go figure.

Yes, it is surprising to find out that some TMers are so
fixated on a person's birth circumstances. What's really
funny is that Judy has never been to Texas and Barry is
from Texas. LoL!

Check out Ann, the bottom poster, and her reply to my
post about home security! Good example of prejudice:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/358450

Ha, Richard, the guy who says he has to protect himself from gays,
transgendered men and women and lesbians (not to mention
skinheads). Who's the prejudiced one? But he's right, I think I
hate Texas.



It was a joke Ann, get a life. I don't care who they are if they try to 
break into my house.





 authfriend:
  Thank you, Richard, you have provided a perfect demonstration
  over the past few days for everyone to see that what I said
  about you to Michael: you are a troll and a liar.
 

--- punditster punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:

 If you don't like it, just ignore me like you've been
 doing since 1999. LoL!

 You don't have to respond to every single post here - if
 you don't live near a Whole Foods just say so. Just cut
 the crap, Judy, and stop the lying about it.

 And you don't need to put others down just for wanting to
 eat a few organic oranges at a local health food store.

 We're not all poor people and I don't spend my 'whole
 paycheck' at the market - I probably earn more retired
 than you do working all day. Go figure.









[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Yehova or Yahve?

2013-09-23 Thread awoelflebater













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
At 11:53pm yesterday (my time) Judy wrote to Xeno:

 Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything
 with you until you've documented your accusations, or
 withdrawn them.

At 5:38am today (my time) Xeno made it clear that he was
not going to do either, and thus expected Judy to keep her
word and cease all attempts to have discussions with him:

 I did notice that you did not document a number of comments
 you made here. But this response simplifies things immensely
 because if this is true, anything I write to you here on
 FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard to
 these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier
 in the thread, by your own words must stop you from responding
 if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very Robinish!

At 2:28 today (my time), Judy broke her word and wrote to
Xeno *directly*, after claiming she wouldn't, addressing
him directly and calling him either very dishonest or very
stupid.

In other words, having realized the bind she'd placed herself
in, she backpedalled like crazy and claimed that she'd never
said she wouldn't comment on things he posted. She's NOT
commenting in this later reply, she's addressing Xeno
*directly*, and thus attempting to have a discussion with
him, the very thing she said she'd not do unless he did
what she wanted.

In other words, Judy LIED.

In Judyworld, addressing a person directly, calling them
names, and attempting anything she can possibly think of to
lure them back into an argument is NOT discussing things
with them. Doing this with someone who had made it clear
that he was *happy* that she will no longer be attempting to
discuss things with him is -- in her mind -- NOT discussing
things with him. It's something else.

Insanity, maybe?  :-)  :-)  :-)


Xeno wrote:
I  did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made 
here. But this response simplifies things immensely because if this is 
true, anything I write to you here on FFL in the absence of my 
documentation here with regard to these points or my withdrawing my 
comments here and earlier in the thread, by your own words must stop you
from responding if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very 
Robinish!


You  are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations
which,  if they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such
accusations.
I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.
I said I wouldn't discuss anything  with you unless you withdraw your
accusations (you can't document them  because they're patently not
true). I didn't say I wouldn't comment if  I found it appropriate to do
so (e.g., if you make any more false or  insulting statements about me,
I may respond to them). But your  accusations, as long as they're on the
table, have effectively  foreclosed on the possibility of our having a
friendly discussion of  philosophy or science or music or any other
neutral topic.
And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to
think it is.




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[FairfieldLife] Responsiveness!

2013-09-23 Thread cardemaister













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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Surviving Whole Foods

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
dear Richard, I'm happy to call you whatever your preference is. I notice a lot 
of the guys call you by the WT name. I enjoyed calling you punditster sir with 
various spellings. Anyway, hope all your new equipment is working great (-:





 From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:30 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
My statement about Judy being prejudiced toward anyone 
living in Texas still stands. Let's see, how many times did she 
address me as 'willytex', AFTER I told her my name was Richard 
at least six times?
 
Judy hates people from Texas so ergo, she hates George W.
 Bush. So, she called him a liar. Judy is a hateful hypocrite.

It's no coincidence that Whole Foods is headquartered in Texas
so she told a fib about visiting the store in New Jersey. I guess 
she thought she could get away with fibbing, but I caught her 
lying. Now she's really upset - can't deal with it, I guess.

Case closed.

On 9/23/2013 6:45 AM, Share Long wrote:

  
Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for 
privacy to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. And even in this argument, 
Xeno sounds like a philosophical friend. In such circumstances, can't 2 little 
words *if true* be given a positive spin by you? Or at least a neutral one?! 
Your sort of knee jerk response feels like you're wasting a potential 
friendship with Xeno.
 




 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: 
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response
from me of the form J says x but y is
true.


I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.


But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is 
rather your pattern of deviousness


OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, with 
examples.


I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going to be 
pretty difficult.


and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective evaluation by 
which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me of the tenant portrayed 
by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. You begin with the appearance 
of being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person
who sows discord on the Internet by
starting arguments


I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many others here. 
Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?


or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic 
messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either 
accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an 
emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.


Yeah, I don't do any of that. And I'm quite sure you know it.

And in fact, I undoubtedly engage in
some of the same when I am arguing with
you; there does not seem to be much
choice if one wants to continue the
discussion. I do not like to sow
discord, but it inevitably happens when
we get into a discussion.

Do I ever lie? The answer is yes. Even M
recommended lying under certain
circumstances. This world of illusion is
rotten to the core. Do you ever lie? Of
all the people currently on FFL, you
accuse others of lying more than anyone.
That is of course, my other reason for
suspecting you of a lack of integrity.


That's not a rational reason, of course. And I don't just accuse, I document 
my accusations.


Certain people seem to manage to create the aura of integrity without 
insisting others prove their own or without asking others to apologise for 
doubting theirs. The late Senator Moynihan from New York comes to mind, a 
rarity in the political world. In my world, the personal aspect of life really 
cannot have integrity; only the whole of life has integrity, but that is not 
the integrity arrived at by conforming to a model of behaviour; it is simply 
it cannot be compared to anything else.


Blablabla...more irrelevant 

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb

In other words, she's saying, Yes, I LIED, and yes, I'm insane.  :-)




Judy tries to bullshit herself out of the trap she set for herself:

 See what I mean? Once he's been shown to have hoisted himself
 on his  own petard in an attempt to get me, what does he do?
 He tries to  save  face by hoisting himself even higher on that
petard.

 Xeno, I'm guessing, will shortly join Barry for his own second hoist.

 The biggest problem both of them have is overestimating their
 intelligence and underestimating that of their readership.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
wrote:

At 11:53pm yesterday (my time) Judy wrote to Xeno:

 Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything
 with you until you've documented your accusations, or
 withdrawn them.

At 5:38am today (my time) Xeno made it clear that he was
not going to do either, and thus expected Judy to keep her
word and cease all attempts to have discussions with him:

 I did notice that you did not document a number of comments
 you made here. But this response simplifies things immensely
 because if this is true, anything I write to you here on
 FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard to
 these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier
 in the thread, by your own words must stop you from responding
 if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very Robinish!

At 2:28 today (my time), Judy broke her word and wrote to
Xeno *directly*, after claiming she wouldn't, addressing
him directly and calling him either very dishonest or very
stupid.

In other words, having realized the bind she'd placed herself
in, she backpedalled like crazy and claimed that she'd never
said she wouldn't comment on things he posted. She's NOT
commenting in this later reply, she's addressing Xeno
*directly*, and thus attempting to have a discussion with
him, the very thing she said she'd not do unless he did
what she wanted.

In other words, Judy LIED.

In Judyworld, addressing a person directly, calling them
names, and attempting anything she can possibly think of to
lure them back into an argument is NOT discussing things
with them. Doing this with someone who had made it clear
that he was *happy* that she will no longer be attempting to
discuss things with him is -- in her mind -- NOT discussing
things with him. It's something else.

Insanity, maybe?  :-)  :-)  :-)


Xeno wrote:
I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made
here.  But this response simplifies things immensely because if this is
true,  anything I write to you here on FFL in the absence of my
documentation  here with regard to these points or my withdrawing my
comments here and  earlier in the thread, by your own words must stop
you from responding if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very 
Robinish!


You are  either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations
which, if  they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such
accusations.
I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.
I said I wouldn't discuss anything with  you unless you withdraw your
accusations (you can't document them  because they're patently not
true). I didn't say I wouldn't comment if I  found it appropriate to do
so (e.g., if you make any more false or  insulting statements about me,
I may respond to them). But your  accusations, as long as they're on the
table, have effectively  foreclosed on the possibility of our having a
friendly discussion of  philosophy or science or music or any other
neutral topic.
And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to
think it is.




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread j_alexander_stanley













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2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Judy, are you saying that Xeno accused you of lying twice?! Once with *if true* 
and once about Whole Foods?! Xeno's intention seemed friendly to me even tho he 
got it wrong about your alleged desire for privacy. 





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
BTW, Share, another thing you missed is that there was no desire for privacy 
on my part in my exchange with Richard; that was purely Xeno's notion. As I 
explained to Xeno, Richard already knew where I live, because I've mentioned it 
here before. And because Richard had looked up the locations of Whole Foods 
stores in New Jersey, he knew there was one quite close to me (he even posted 
the address).

My point was Richard's flagrant dishonesty in (among other things) claiming the 
nearest one was a long bus ride and two hours distant. It was one of his 
stupid and petty attempts at trolling. It didn't warrant any discussion other 
than as a way of highlighting Richard's behavior here. There was no reason for 
Xeno to intervene; although it became clear later why he did: to suggest that I 
might be the one who was lying. Ironically, that was also a stupid and 
dishonest troll on Xeno's part.

Share wrote: 



Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for privacy 
to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kryon on Jews

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
I'm remembering a great line in Fiddler On the Roof when Tevye suggests to God 
that He might choose somebody else for a change. I wonder what *pure karma* 
means.





 From: cardemais...@yahoo.com cardemais...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:43 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Kryon on Jews
 


  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryon

Throughout the Kryon series, repeated attention is paid to the role of Jews in 
evolution of humanity's consciousness. In an interview given in 1999 to the 
Israeli monthly magazine חיים אחרים (Chaim Acherim -- Another Life), Lee 
Carroll says Kryon's message is that Jews are a special group amongst humans, 
a pure karmic group, the chosen people. They supposedly possess inborn 
particular attributes of consciousness, which are unique to them. That, 
accordingly to him, is the reason why throughout history those belonging to 
other nations have often felt sub-conscious envy towards Jews and had tried to 
exterminate the Jewish people in different ways. In the interview Carroll also 
speaks of a special role of the land of Israel in the processes which influence 
the balance of energies (powers) in the world. What happens with the Jews, 
that also happens with the world as a whole, Carroll says is one of Kryon's 
messages.[21][22] 
 

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2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Judy, in his initial response, Xeno said something like that it's a phrase that 
indicates that one has no supporting evidence, sounding like his usual 
philosophical self.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:40 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share wrote: 


Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for privacy 
to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. And even in this argument, Xeno sounds 
like a philosophical friend. In such circumstances, can't 2 little words *if 
true* be given a positive spin by you? Or at least a neutral one?! Your sort of 
knee jerk response feels like you're wasting a potential friendship with Xeno.

Xeno has foreclosed on the possibility of friendship with his false accusations.

I gave him the chance to explain if true, initially without interpreting the 
phrase, and he (finally, after several attempts to avoid the issue) confirmed 
that those 2 little words were neither friendly nor neutral; he meant them to 
cast doubt on my honesty.

When I think you might have something to contribute to how I manage my 
relationships here, I'll ask you. I doubt that will happen, though, unless you 
become a lot smarter than you demonstrate with your comments above.




 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: 
[FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but y is 
true.

I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.

But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is rather 
your pattern of deviousness

OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, with 
examples.

I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going to be 
pretty difficult.

and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective evaluation by 
which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me of the tenant portrayed 
by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. You begin with the appearance of 
being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by 
starting arguments

I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many others here. 
Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?

or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages 
in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either 
accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an 
emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Yeah, I don't do any of that. And I'm quite sure you know it.

And in fact, I undoubtedly engage in some of the same when I am arguing with 
you; there does not seem to be much choice if one wants
 to continue the discussion. I do not like to sow discord, but it inevitably 
happens when we get into a discussion.

Do I ever lie? The answer is yes. Even M recommended lying under certain 
circumstances. This world of illusion is rotten to the core. Do you ever lie? 
Of all the people currently on FFL, you accuse others of lying more than 
anyone. That is of course, my other reason for suspecting you of a lack of 
integrity.

That's not a rational reason, of course. And I don't just accuse, I document my 
accusations.

Certain people seem to manage to create the aura of integrity without insisting 
others prove their own or without asking others to apologise for doubting 
theirs. The late Senator Moynihan from New York comes to mind, a rarity in the 
political world. In my world, the personal aspect of life really cannot have 
integrity; only the whole of life has integrity, but that is not the integrity 
arrived at by conforming to a model of behaviour; it is simply it cannot be 
compared to anything else.

Blablabla...more irrelevant bafflegab.

I just find it disingenuous that you try to ride the moral high horse, from 
which you have fallen long ago

Please give the specifics of this claim (including when this falling 
purportedly happened).

you are rather lifting the tail of a dead one. I never really could ride a 
horse myself. As an individual body, there is always something corruptible when 
compared to some fictional higher standard. If you want to discuss philosophy 
or science or music, fine. But this issue of your alleged, self-promoted 
integrity and the incredible lack of it in others is not a viable subject.


As I reminded Curtis when he 

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2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either dishonest or stupid. Then you 
go on to say TWICE that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a convoluted 
way that he's dishonest.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote:

I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made here. But 
this response simplifies things immensely because if this is true, anything I 
write to you here on FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard to 
these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the thread, by 
your own words must stop you from responding if you do not wish to go back on 
your word. Very Robinish!


You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations which, if 
they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such accusations.

I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.

I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not true). I 
didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do so (e.g., if you 
make any more false or insulting statements about me, I may respond to them). 
But your accusations, as long as they're on the table, have effectively 
foreclosed on the possibility of our having a friendly discussion of 
philosophy or science or music or any other neutral topic.

And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to think it 
is.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
authfriend wrote:


Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but y is 
true.

I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.

But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is rather 
your pattern of deviousness

OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, with 
examples.

I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going to be 
pretty difficult.

and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective evaluation by 
which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me of the tenant portrayed 
by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. You begin with the appearance of 
being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by 
starting arguments

I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many others here. 
Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?

or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages 
in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either 
accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an 
emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Yeah, I don't do any of that. And I'm quite sure you know it.

And in fact, I undoubtedly engage in some of the same when I am arguing with 
you; there does not seem to be much choice if one wants to continue the 
discussion. I do not like to sow discord, but it inevitably happens when we get 
into a discussion.

Do I ever lie? The answer is yes. Even M recommended lying under certain 
circumstances. This world of illusion is rotten to the core. Do you ever lie? 
Of all the people currently on FFL, you accuse others of lying more than 
anyone. That is of course, my other reason for suspecting you of a lack of 
integrity.

That's not a rational reason, of course. And I don't just accuse, I document my 
accusations.

Certain people seem to manage to create the aura of integrity without insisting 
others prove their own or without asking others to apologise for doubting 
theirs. The late Senator Moynihan from New York comes to mind, a rarity in the 
political world. In my world, the personal aspect of life really cannot have 
integrity; only the whole of life has integrity, but that is not the integrity 
arrived at by conforming to a model of behaviour; it is simply it cannot be 
compared to anything else.

Blablabla...more irrelevant bafflegab.

I just find it disingenuous that you try to ride the moral high horse, from 
which you have fallen long ago

Please give the specifics of this claim (including when this falling 
purportedly happened).

you are rather lifting the tail of a dead one. I never really could ride a 
horse myself. As an individual body, there is always something corruptible when 
compared to some fictional higher standard. If you want to discuss philosophy 
or science 

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
I'm chuckling as I post this bit from Eckhart Tolle on the pain body, imagining 
FFL posters telling each other that their pain body has taken  over: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcYrm7h86Rk





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
I thought Jason's description of your and Judy's dysfunctional relationship, 
was spot on. Any time one of you begins to modify your behavior to stop this 
ego rivalry, the other one will quickly send out a baited message, to 
perpetuate it.

Pretty fucking dumb, by both of you, is all I can say.   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Argue-Bot, vowing not to start future arguments with victim:

  
  Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything 
  with you until you've documented your accusations, or 
  withdrawn them.

Victim, calling her bluff:

 
 I did notice that you did not document a number of comments 
 you made here. But this response simplifies things immensely 
 because if this is true, anything I write to you here on FFL 
 in the absence of my documentation here with regard to these 
 points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the 
 thread, by your own words must stop you from responding if 
 you do not wish to go back on your word. Very Robinish!

This should be interesting. 

Judy either LIED above about not discussing anything
with this particular victim du jour, or she didn't.

What's the FFL consensus? That is, how long until 
she's ragging on him again, trying to get him to
respond to her, and thus get sucked into her 
eternally-dueling-egos Tarbaby scenario? She 
*did*, after all, specify I'm not going to 
discuss ANYTHING with you until... He's clearly
not going to jump through hoops, fall for the
taunt, and cater to her demands. So if she writes
to him in the future, she LIED. Simple as that.

Can you say, Hoist on one's own petard? I think
you can.  :-)
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either 
 dishonest or stupid. Then you go on to say TWICE 
 that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a 
 convoluted way that he's dishonest.

All while having a discussion with the person
she claimed only yesterday she was never going
to discuss *anything* with until he either 
documented something or retracted it. He
did neither.

And she thinks HE's dishonest? Chortle.





[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread j_alexander_stanley













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2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













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2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













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2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
turq, even in Funny Farm Lounge, to change her mind is a woman's perogative. 
But I don't think of that as lying.





 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either 
 dishonest or stupid. Then you go on to say TWICE 
 that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a 
 convoluted way that he's dishonest.

All while having a discussion with the person
she claimed only yesterday she was never going
to discuss *anything* with until he either 
documented something or retracted it. He
did neither.

And she thinks HE's dishonest? Chortle.


 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













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2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
What did I get? That you called Xeno dishonest in a convoluted way? But you 
claim to be the most straight forward poster!





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Very good, Share, you got that at least. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either dishonest or stupid. Then you 
go on to say TWICE that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a convoluted 
way that he's dishonest.





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote:

I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made here. But 
this response simplifies things immensely because if this is true, anything I 
write to you here on FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard to 
these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the thread, by 
your own words must stop you from responding if you do not wish to go back on 
your word. Very Robinish!


You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations which, if 
they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such accusations.

I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.

I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not true). I 
didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do so (e.g., if you 
make any more false or insulting statements about me, I may respond to them). 
But your accusations, as long as they're on the table, have effectively 
foreclosed on the possibility of our having a friendly discussion of 
philosophy or science or music or any other neutral topic.

And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to think it 
is.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
authfriend wrote:


Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but y is 
true.


I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.


But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is 
rather your pattern of deviousness


OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, with 
examples.


I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going to be 
pretty difficult.


and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective evaluation by 
which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me of the tenant portrayed 
by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. You begin with the appearance 
of being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by 
starting arguments


I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many others here. 
Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?


or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic 
messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either 
accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an 
emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.


Yeah, I don't do any of that. And I'm quite sure you know it.

And in fact, I undoubtedly engage in some of the same when I am arguing with 
you; there does not seem to be much choice if one wants to continue the 
discussion. I do not like to sow discord, but it inevitably
 happens when we get into a discussion.

Do I ever lie? The answer is yes. Even M recommended lying under certain 
circumstances. This world of illusion is rotten to the core. Do you ever lie? 
Of all the people currently on FFL, you accuse others of lying more than 
anyone. That is of course, my other reason for suspecting you of a lack of 
integrity.


That's not a rational reason, of course. And I don't just accuse, I document 
my accusations.


Certain people seem to manage to create the aura of integrity without 
insisting others prove their own or without asking others to apologise for 
doubting theirs. The late Senator Moynihan from New York comes to mind, a 
rarity in the political world. In my world, the personal aspect of life really 
cannot have integrity; only the whole of life has integrity, but that is not 
the integrity arrived at by conforming to a model of behaviour; 

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
I have no control over which posts of mine you read, Judy, ergo I have no 
control over how you spend your time on FFL. 





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, if you want to know what I'm saying, go back and read the exchange from 
the beginning, because I've said it all there already. Don't waste my time with 
stupid questions, please.

And I'm not the least bit interested in how things seem to you. As you may 
have noticed, I don't exactly hold your ability to evaluate what happens on FFL 
in high esteem.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, are you saying that Xeno accused you of lying twice?! Once with *if true* 
and once about Whole Foods?! Xeno's intention seemed friendly to me even tho he 
got it wrong about your alleged desire for privacy. 





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
BTW, Share, another thing you missed is that there was no desire for privacy 
on my part in my exchange with Richard; that was purely Xeno's notion. As I 
explained to Xeno, Richard already knew where I live, because I've mentioned it 
here before. And because Richard had looked up the locations of Whole Foods 
stores in New Jersey, he knew there was one quite close to me (he even posted 
the address).

My point was Richard's flagrant dishonesty in (among other things) claiming the 
nearest one was a long bus ride and two hours distant. It was one of his 
stupid and petty attempts at trolling. It didn't warrant any discussion other 
than as a way of highlighting Richard's behavior here. There was no reason for 
Xeno to intervene; although it became clear later why he did: to suggest that I 
might be the one who was lying. Ironically, that was also a stupid and 
dishonest troll on Xeno's part.

Share wrote: 



Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for privacy 
to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. 


 

[FairfieldLife] RE: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards

2013-09-23 Thread merudanda













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2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
merudanda, if one flaps the top of one's fingers against the palm of the same 
hand, one indeed hears the sound of one hand clapping. One then looks for other 
koans with which to enjoy the mystery. PS How is Neo treating you? 





 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards
 


  
The sound of one hand clapping may be one of those proverbial mysteries, but a 
man  arrested and seriously punished ( fined the equivalent of $200-more than 
twice his monthly pension) in Minsk this week for allegedly doing it  certainly 
deserves a Ig Norant award
There was one case where deaf and mute person was accused of shouting 
anti-governmental slogans.Miracles happen in our courts.

Svetlana Kalinkina, editor of the independent Minsk newspaper Narodnaya Volya 

http://www.nv-online.info/

Hope these are something to Ig Nore and are  not really happening 

On the road again -
Insisting that the world keep turning our way




--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:




Winners of the 2013 Ig Nobel Prizes were announced at a ceremony at Harvard 
University on Thursday night.

— Psychology: An experiment that found people who think they are drunk also 
think they are attractive, conducted by Laurent Bègue, Oulmann Zerhouni, 
Baptiste Subra and Medhi Ourabah of France and Brad Bushman, a professor at 
Ohio State University who also teaches in the Netherlands.

— Joint prize in biology and astronomy: An experiment that showed lost dung 
beetles can use the Milky Way to find their way home. Marie Dacke, Emily Baird, 
Marcus Byrne, Clarke Scholtz and Eric Warrant, who work in Sweden, Australia, 
South Africa, the United Kingdom and Germany.

— Medicine: A study assessing the effect of listening to opera on heart 
transplant patients who are mice. Given to Masateru Uchiyama, Xiangyuan Jin, Qi 
Zhang, Toshihito Hirai, Atsushi Amano, Hisashi Bashuda and Masanori Niimi, of 
Japan, China and the United Kingdom.

— Safety engineering: An electro-mechanical system to trap an airplane hijacker 
by dropping him or her through a trap door, sealing him or her into a package 
and then dropping the packaged hijacker (with a parachute) to the ground where 
police will be waiting. Given to Gustano Pizzo of the U.S., who died in 2006.

— Physics: The discovery that some people would be physically capable of 
running across the surface of a pond — if both they and the pond were on the 
moon. Given to Alberto Minetti, Yuri Ivanenko, Germana Cappellini, Nadia 
Dominici, and Francesco Lacquaniti of Italy, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, 
Russia and France.

— Chemistry: The discovery that the biochemical process by which onions make 
people cry is even more complicated than scientists previously realized. 
Shinsuke Imai, Nobuaki Tsuge, Muneaki Tomotake, Yoshiaki Nagatome, Toshiyuki 
Nagata and Hidehiko Kumgai of Japan and Germany.

— Archaeology: Two researchers who parboiled a dead shrew, then swallowed it 
without chewing so they could examine their excrement to see which bones would 
dissolve in the human digestive system and which would not. Given to Brian 
Crandall of the U.S. and Peter Stahl of Canada and the U.S.

— Peace: Belarus and its president, for making it illegal to applaud in public, 
and to the Belarus State Police, for arresting a one-armed man for applauding.

— Probability: Researchers who discovered that the longer a cow has been lying 
down, the more likely that cow will soon stand up, but that once a cow stands 
up, you cannot easily predict how soon that cow will lie down again. Awarded to 
Bert Tolkamp, Marie Haskell, Fritha Langford, David Roberts and Colin Morgan of 
the United Kingdom, the Netherlands and Canada.

— Public health: For medical techniques described in their report, Surgical 
Management of an Epidemic of Penile Amputations in Siam. They recommend the 
techniques, except in cases where an amputated penis had been partially eaten 
by a duck. Awarded to Kasian Bhanganada, Tu Chayavatana, Chumporn Pongnumkul, 
Anunt Tonmukayakul, Piyasakol Sakolsatayadorn, Krit Komaratal, and Henry Wilde 
of Thailand.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/winners-2013-ig-nobel-awards-weird-science-20244056


The Ig Nobel Prizes honor achievements that first make people laugh, and then 
make them think. The prizes are intended to celebrate the unusual, honor the 
imaginative — and spur people's interest in science, medicine, and technology.

http://www.improbable.com/ig/#sthash.WigmMZQ2.dpuf


 

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread awoelflebater













RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Dudy, you told ME not to waste YOUR time! Duh! How can I possibly waste YOUR 
time?! As Spock would say: your logic is weak.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share tried a blather instead of a blither: 


I have no control over which posts of mine you read, Judy, ergo I have no 
control over how you spend your time on FFL. 


I don't believe I said you did, Share.

What you do have control over is whether you ask stupid questions.

Oh, wait...




 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, if you want to know what I'm saying, go back and read the exchange from 
the beginning, because I've said it all there already. Don't waste my time with 
stupid questions, please.

And I'm not the least bit interested in how things seem to you. As you may 
have noticed, I don't exactly hold your ability to evaluate what happens on FFL 
in high esteem.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, are you saying that Xeno accused you of lying twice?! Once with *if 
true* and once about Whole Foods?! Xeno's intention seemed friendly to me even 
tho he got it wrong about your alleged desire for privacy. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
BTW, Share, another thing you missed is that there was no desire for privacy 
on my part in my exchange with Richard; that was purely Xeno's notion. As I 
explained to Xeno, Richard already knew where I live, because I've mentioned 
it here before. And because Richard had looked up the locations of Whole Foods 
stores in New Jersey, he knew there was one quite close to me (he even posted 
the address).


My point was Richard's flagrant dishonesty in (among other things) claiming 
the nearest one was a long bus ride and two hours distant. It was one of 
his stupid and petty attempts at trolling. It didn't warrant any discussion 
other than as a way of highlighting Richard's behavior here. There was no 
reason for Xeno to intervene; although it became clear later why he did: to 
suggest that I might be the one who was lying. Ironically, that was also a 
stupid and dishonest troll on Xeno's part.

Share wrote: 



Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for 
privacy to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. 




 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread awoelflebater













RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] Naked Villainy

2013-09-23 Thread anartaxius













RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Share, you need to learn how to process your own emotions - you are bleeding 
heavily again.  Does meditation help you with this?  Did you meditate before 
you launched your brain on FFL this morning?  Did you have a cup of coffee (one 
of the super foods in the article you posted the other day that I got a good 
laugh at)? What *are* you trying to achieve here this morning?  Ask yourself 
this.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Dudy, you told ME not to waste YOUR time! Duh! How can I possibly waste YOUR 
time?! As Spock would say: your logic is weak.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share tried a blather instead of a blither: 


I have no control over which posts of mine you read, Judy, ergo I have no 
control over how you spend your time on FFL. 


I don't believe I said you did, Share.

What you do have control over is whether you ask stupid questions.

Oh, wait...




 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, if you want to know what I'm saying, go back and read the exchange from 
the beginning, because I've said it all there already. Don't waste my time with 
stupid questions, please.

And I'm not the least bit interested in how things seem to you. As you may 
have noticed, I don't exactly hold your ability to evaluate what happens on FFL 
in high esteem.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, are you saying that Xeno accused you of lying twice?! Once with *if 
true* and once about Whole Foods?! Xeno's intention seemed friendly to me even 
tho he got it wrong about your alleged desire for privacy. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
BTW, Share, another thing you missed is that there was no desire for privacy 
on my part in my exchange with Richard; that was purely Xeno's notion. As I 
explained to Xeno, Richard already knew where I live, because I've mentioned 
it here before. And because Richard had looked up the locations of Whole Foods 
stores in New Jersey, he knew there was one quite close to me (he even posted 
the address).


My point was Richard's flagrant dishonesty in (among other things) claiming 
the nearest one was a long bus ride and two hours distant. It was one of 
his stupid and petty attempts at trolling. It didn't warrant any discussion 
other than as a way of highlighting Richard's behavior here. There was no 
reason for Xeno to intervene; although it became clear later why he did: to 
suggest that I might be the one who was lying. Ironically, that was also a 
stupid and dishonest troll on Xeno's part.

Share wrote: 



Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for 
privacy to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. 






 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Oprah reaps the benefits of the unified field....

2013-09-23 Thread Michael Jackson
I expect it wasn't a nervous breakdown - I suspect it was jist unstressin' 
since we know TM is totally life supporting and since Oprah has been an 
outspoken advocate of TM, requiring her employees to do TM or else - we know 
that TM would never make her have a NB, nor would a NB even HAPPEN to a 
religiously regular True Blue TM'er - so it musta been unstressin' - or wait! 

Maybe Harpo studios has a south facing entrance, cuz we know from the Old Goat 
that no matter what you do including TM, TMSP, yagyas, and all the expensive TM 
jazz, if you live in a south facing entrance home or work in a south facing 
entrance work place, you will have major problems. So from this we know that 
the orientation of a building is more powerful than Buck's much vaunted Unified 
Field.





 From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:07 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Oprah reaps the benefits of the unified field
 


  


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/oprah-winfrey-admits-to-having-nervous-breakdown-last-year-8833066.html

 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Naked Villainy

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Naked Villainy

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Xeno, are you indeed saying that the Funny Farm Lounge has NOT survived Whole 
Foods?! Forsooth!





 From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Naked Villainy
 


  
And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.
                              ---William Shakespeare

DISCUSS:

To speak with another or others about; talk over in speech or writing. Discuss 
involves examination of a subject with interchange of opinions. 

Judy and I were discussing comments I made which she interpreted as my accusing 
her of lying. I did not accuse her of lying then but now I am.

She wanted me retract my statements:

'I'm not going to discuss anything with you until you've documented your 
accusations, or withdrawn them.'


However she continued to engage me on this subject with a follow up post, so 
she lied. It is not that big a deal. This all started because I commented on 
some posts regarding whether she lived near Whole Foods. I had not read any 
posts where she actually said where she lived precisely, but from what I had 
read, I felt confident of her location and it seemed a Whole Foods was within 
10 miles of her. A new Whole Foods recently opened near me (across the New York 
state line in Connecticut), also about 10 miles away. 

While I avoid shopping there because it is so expensive, they are nice stores, 
but they are big agra. There are smaller stores called Mrs. Green's dotted 
about New York and Connecticut. Very occasionally I shop in these places but 
the final tab is probably two times what I would usually pay, so it is usually 
for items I cannot find elsewhere.

Now, I never doubted what Judy was saying she lived near a whole foods, but 
because I tend to hedge what I say (for seldom am I 100% right), I wrote in 
reference to what she had said 'if true' then such and such would follow. Since 
she did live pretty close to Whole Foods, it was true, and whoever was saying 
she did not, very likely was wrong. I do not intend to go to New Jersey and 
directly verify this. Those two words 'if true' seemed to tick her off, and the 
rest of the discussion is there for everyone to read. See what even thinking 
about organic food markets does to people's reputations? Addles the brain.

Judy also did not seem to understand that having a suspicion is not necessarily 
based on any concrete, documentable facts. Suspicion is that vague unease where 
something seems not right, but one cannot always point the finger and say 'that 
is the cause'. But I suspect Judy is far more aware of what she is doing than 
she says. However this particular discussion of lying versus truth is at an 
end. There may be others, and the first part of this sentence, if true, then, 
there may be others. If not, there will not be others.

For my part, if a lie may do thee grace,
I'll gild it with the happiest terms I have.
                     ---William Shakespeare 
 

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Emily, join in the fun, why don't you? 





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, you need to learn how to process your own emotions - you are bleeding 
heavily again.  Does meditation help you with this?  Did you meditate before 
you launched your brain on FFL this morning?  Did you have a cup of coffee (one 
of the super foods in the article you posted the other day that I got a good 
laugh at)? What *are* you trying to achieve here this morning?  Ask yourself 
this.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Dudy, you told ME not to waste YOUR time! Duh! How can I possibly waste YOUR 
time?! As Spock would say: your logic is weak.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share tried a blather instead of a blither: 


I have no control over which posts of mine you read, Judy, ergo I have no 
control over how you spend your time on FFL. 


I don't believe I said you did, Share.

What you do have control over is whether you ask stupid questions.

Oh, wait...




 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, if you want to know what I'm saying, go back and read the exchange from 
the beginning, because I've said it all there already. Don't waste my time with 
stupid questions, please.

And I'm not the least bit interested in how things seem to you. As you may 
have noticed, I don't exactly hold your ability to evaluate what happens on FFL 
in high esteem.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, are you saying that Xeno accused you of lying twice?! Once with *if 
true* and once about Whole Foods?! Xeno's intention seemed friendly to me even 
tho he got it wrong about your alleged desire for privacy. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
BTW, Share, another thing you missed is that there was no desire for privacy 
on my part in my exchange with Richard; that was purely Xeno's notion. As I 
explained to Xeno, Richard already knew where I live, because I've mentioned 
it here before. And because Richard had looked up the locations of Whole Foods 
stores in New Jersey, he knew there was one quite close to me (he even posted 
the address).


My point was Richard's flagrant dishonesty in (among other things) claiming 
the nearest one was a long bus ride and two hours distant. It was one of 
his stupid and petty attempts at trolling. It didn't warrant any discussion 
other than as a way of highlighting Richard's behavior here. There was no 
reason for Xeno to intervene; although it became clear later why he did: to 
suggest that I might be the one who was lying. Ironically, that was also a 
stupid and dishonest troll on Xeno's part.

Share wrote: 



Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for 
privacy to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. 








 

RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread emilymae.reyn













Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Check yourself Share - it's only Monday.  Did you have a hard weekend?  Walk 
away from the computer, Share, walk away from the computer.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Emily, join in the fun, why don't you? 





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, you need to learn how to process your own emotions - you are bleeding 
heavily again.  Does meditation help you with this?  Did you meditate before 
you launched your brain on FFL this morning?  Did you have a cup of coffee (one 
of the super foods in the article you posted the other day that I got a good 
laugh at)? What *are* you trying to achieve here this morning?  Ask yourself 
this.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Dudy, you told ME not to waste YOUR time! Duh! How can I possibly waste YOUR 
time?! As Spock would say: your logic is weak.





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share tried a blather instead of a blither: 


I have no control over which posts of mine you read, Judy, ergo I have no 
control over how you spend your time on FFL. 


I don't believe I said you did, Share.

What you do have control over is whether you ask stupid questions.

Oh, wait...




 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:58 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, if you want to know what I'm saying, go back and read the exchange from 
the beginning, because I've said it all there already. Don't waste my time with 
stupid questions, please.

And I'm not the least bit interested in how things seem to you. As you may 
have noticed, I don't exactly hold your ability to evaluate what happens on FFL 
in high esteem.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, are you saying that Xeno accused you of lying twice?! Once with *if 
true* and once about Whole Foods?! Xeno's intention seemed friendly to me even 
tho he got it wrong about your alleged desire for privacy. 







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:00 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
BTW, Share, another thing you missed is that there was no desire for privacy 
on my part in my exchange with Richard; that was purely Xeno's notion. As I 
explained to Xeno, Richard already knew where I live, because I've mentioned 
it here before. And because Richard had looked up the locations of Whole Foods 
stores in New Jersey, he knew there was one quite close to me (he even posted 
the address).


My point was Richard's flagrant dishonesty in (among other things) claiming 
the nearest one was a long bus ride and two hours distant. It was one of 
his stupid and petty attempts at trolling. It didn't warrant any discussion 
other than as a way of highlighting Richard's behavior here. There was no 
reason for Xeno to intervene; although it became clear later why he did: to 
suggest that I might be the one who was lying. Ironically, that was also a 
stupid and dishonest troll on Xeno's part.

Share wrote: 



Judy, right before this argument, Xeno defended you and your desire for 
privacy to Richard with regards to Whole Foods. 










 

Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Emily, I'm enjoying FFL at this moment. I hope you are too.





 From: emilymae.r...@yahoo.com emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, I have written you many straightforward posts.  You appear to be 
incapable of grasping the main point of any straightforward post; you seem to 
realize there *is* a point, at which time you move always to derail the post in 
your own mind,  through posting on top of it with meaningless frivolity, 
nonsensical interpretation, or purposeful misinterpretation to avoid whatever 
reality is coming through to you that you want to reject.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


What did I get? That you called Xeno dishonest in a convoluted way? But you 
claim to be the most straight forward poster!





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Very good, Share, you got that at least. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either dishonest or stupid. Then you 
go on to say TWICE that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a convoluted 
way that he's dishonest.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote:


I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made here. But 
this response simplifies things immensely because if this is true, anything I 
write to you here on FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard 
to these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the thread, 
by your own words must stop you from responding if you do not wish to go back 
on your word. Very Robinish!



You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations which, if 
they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such accusations.


I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.


I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not true). I 
didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do so (e.g., if you 
make any more false or insulting statements about me, I may respond to them). 
But your accusations, as long as they're on the table, have effectively 
foreclosed on the possibility of our having a friendly discussion of 
philosophy or science or music or any other neutral topic.


And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to think 
it is.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
authfriend wrote:


Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but y is 
true.


I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.


But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is 
rather your pattern of deviousness


OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, 
with examples.


I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going to be 
pretty difficult.


and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective evaluation 
by which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me of the tenant 
portrayed by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. You begin with the 
appearance of being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by 
starting arguments


I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many others 
here. Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?


or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic 
messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either 
accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an 
emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.


Yeah, I don't do any of that. And I'm quite sure you know it.

And in fact, I undoubtedly engage in some of the same when I am arguing with 
you; there does not seem to be much choice if one wants to continue the 
discussion. I do not like to sow discord, but it inevitably
 

RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] Tantrum Yoga

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
Just gotta say I'm loving all this. 

Judy, mock-outraged that someone (in her mind)
inferred that she *might* be a liar, throws a
tantrum and declares that she's not going to
discuss *anything* with him until he either
documents the inference or retracts it. 

Then, only a few hours later, she starts having
discussions with him again, thus *proving*
herself a liar. 

You can't make this sorta stuff up.  :-)  :-)  :-)





[FairfieldLife] RE: Tantrum Yoga

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Bhairitu
What!  No review of the next to last episode of Breaking Bad?  Or the 
finale episode of Dexter? Where are your priorities?  Who gives a shit 
about a bunch of piddling people piddling over who said what about Whole 
Foods?


I tell you what, the next article on TM in the MSM where comments are 
available I'm going to point to FFL as an example for people to visit 
and see how TMers behave. :-P


On 09/23/2013 06:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


At 11:53pm yesterday (my time) Judy wrote to Xeno:

 Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything
 with you until you've documented your accusations, or
 withdrawn them.

At 5:38am today (my time) Xeno made it clear that he was
not going to do either, and thus expected Judy to keep her
word and cease all attempts to have discussions with him:

 I did notice that you did not document a number of comments
 you made here. But this response simplifies things immensely
 because if this is true, anything I write to you here on
 FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard to
 these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier
 in the thread, by your own words must stop you from responding
 if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very Robinish!

At 2:28 today (my time), Judy broke her word and wrote to
Xeno *directly*, after claiming she wouldn't, addressing
him directly and calling him either very dishonest or very
stupid.

In other words, having realized the bind she'd placed herself
in, she backpedalled like crazy and claimed that she'd never
said she wouldn't comment on things he posted. She's NOT
commenting in this later reply, she's addressing Xeno
*directly*, and thus attempting to have a discussion with
him, the very thing she said she'd not do unless he did
what she wanted.

In other words, Judy *LIED*.

In Judyworld, addressing a person directly, calling them
names, and attempting anything she can possibly think of to
lure them back into an argument is NOT discussing things
with them. Doing this with someone who had made it clear
that he was *happy* that she will no longer be attempting to
discuss things with him is -- in her mind -- NOT discussing
things with him. It's something else.

Insanity, maybe?  :-)  :-)  :-)


Xeno wrote:

*I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made 
here. But this response simplifies things immensely because if this is 
true, anything I write to you here on FFL in the absence of my 
documentation here with regard to these points or my withdrawing my 
comments here and earlier in the thread, by your own words must stop 
you from responding if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very 
Robinish!*



You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations 
which, if they were true, you would be able to document. I made no 
such accusations.


I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.

I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not 
true). I didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do 
so (e.g., if you make any more false or insulting statements about me, 
I may respond to them). But your accusations, as long as they're on 
the table, have effectively foreclosed on the possibility of our 
having a friendly discussion of philosophy or science or music or 
any other neutral topic.


And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to 
think it is.








Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Ok, Judy, you made a distinction between discussing with Xeno and commenting on 
what he said. Seems a bit hair splitty to me but there you are: different 
strokes for different folks. 





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
FWIW, there was no change of mind on my part. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


turq, even in Funny Farm Lounge, to change her mind is a woman's perogative. 
But I don't think of that as lying.


I'd have to agree with you here Share, but I'll take it one step further and 
say it is anyone's prerogative to change their mind without being branded a 
liar. Something as trivial as saying the equivalent of, I'm not going to eat 
any chocolate cake because I'm on a diet. and then changes their mind after 
deciding it looks too good to resist is hardly someone to be reviled for 
having not predicted their future actions correctly. Now, speaking of cake...







 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either 
 dishonest or stupid. Then you go on to say TWICE 
 that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a 
 convoluted way that he's dishonest.

All while having a discussion with the person
she claimed only yesterday she was never going
to discuss *anything* with until he either 
documented something or retracted it. He
did neither.

And she thinks HE's dishonest? Chortle.




 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Naked Villainy

2013-09-23 Thread anartaxius













Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Thank you for the kind thought Share, you are thinking kindly of me, no? - 
after my observation that you are incapable of grasping the main point of any 
straightforward post (you have now demonstrated my additional observation in 
that comment).    



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Emily, I'm enjoying FFL at this moment. I hope you are too.





 From: emilymae.r...@yahoo.com emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, I have written you many straightforward posts.  You appear to be 
incapable of grasping the main point of any straightforward post; you seem to 
realize there *is* a point, at which time you move always to derail the post in 
your own mind,  through posting on top of it with meaningless frivolity, 
nonsensical interpretation, or purposeful misinterpretation to avoid whatever 
reality is coming through to you that you want to reject.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


What did I get? That you called Xeno dishonest in a convoluted way? But you 
claim to be the most straight forward poster!





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Very good, Share, you got that at least. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either dishonest or stupid. Then you 
go on to say TWICE that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a convoluted 
way that he's dishonest.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote:


I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made here. But 
this response simplifies things immensely because if this is true, anything I 
write to you here on FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard 
to these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the thread, 
by your own words must stop you from responding if you do not wish to go back 
on your word. Very Robinish!



You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations which, if 
they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such accusations.


I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.


I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not true). I 
didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do so (e.g., if you 
make any more false or insulting statements about me, I may respond to them). 
But your accusations, as long as they're on the table, have effectively 
foreclosed on the possibility of our having a friendly discussion of 
philosophy or science or music or any other neutral topic.


And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to think 
it is.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
authfriend wrote:


Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but y is 
true.


I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.


But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is 
rather your pattern of deviousness


OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, 
with examples.


I am not devious, I am as straightforward as it gets, so it's going to be 
pretty difficult.


and extended argumentation, which is an intuitive and subjective evaluation 
by which I come to this conclusion. You kind of remind me of the tenant 
portrayed by Michael Keaton the movie 'Pacific Heights'. You begin with the 
appearance of being on the level, and then


Wikipedia:
In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by 
starting arguments


I have been known to start an argument. So have you, so have many others 
here. Since when is this a sign of a pattern of deviousness?



RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Emily Reyn
It's not Share's fault that she doesn't understand the conceptual difference 
between the two - she has never tried to have a discussion.  



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Ok, Judy, you made a distinction between discussing with Xeno and commenting on 
what he said. Seems a bit hair splitty to me but there you are: different 
strokes for different folks. 





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
FWIW, there was no change of mind on my part. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


turq, even in Funny Farm Lounge, to change her mind is a woman's perogative. 
But I don't think of that as lying.


I'd have to agree with you here Share, but I'll take it one step further and 
say it is anyone's prerogative to change their mind without being branded a 
liar. Something as trivial as saying the equivalent of, I'm not going to eat 
any chocolate cake because I'm on a diet. and then changes their mind after 
deciding it looks too good to resist is hardly someone to be reviled for 
having not predicted their future actions correctly. Now, speaking of cake...







 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either 
 dishonest or stupid. Then you go on to say TWICE 
 that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a 
 convoluted way that he's dishonest.

All while having a discussion with the person
she claimed only yesterday she was never going
to discuss *anything* with until he either 
documented something or retracted it. He
did neither.

And she thinks HE's dishonest? Chortle.






 

[FairfieldLife] RE: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards

2013-09-23 Thread merudanda













Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Emily, happy to help. Are you enjoying yet? Look, Xeno's quoting Shakespeare, 
Judy's using fun words like biffle. What's not to enjoy? Just a matter of where 
you focus your attention. I think that's why you and I see different realities, 
both of which are valid.




 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Thank you for the kind thought Share, you are thinking kindly of me, no? - 
after my observation that you are incapable of grasping the main point of any 
straightforward post (you have now demonstrated my additional observation in 
that comment).    



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Emily, I'm enjoying FFL at this moment. I hope you are too.





 From: emilymae.r...@yahoo.com emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, I have written you many straightforward posts.  You appear to be 
incapable of grasping the main point of any straightforward post; you seem to 
realize there *is* a point, at which time you move always to derail the post in 
your own mind,  through posting on top of it with meaningless frivolity, 
nonsensical interpretation, or purposeful misinterpretation to avoid whatever 
reality is coming through to you that you want to reject.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


What did I get? That you called Xeno dishonest in a convoluted way? But you 
claim to be the most straight forward poster!





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Very good, Share, you got that at least. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either dishonest or stupid. Then you 
go on to say TWICE that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a convoluted 
way that he's dishonest.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote:


I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made here. But 
this response simplifies things immensely because if this is true, anything I 
write to you here on FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard 
to these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the thread, 
by your own words must stop you from responding if you do not wish to go back 
on your word. Very Robinish!



You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations which, if 
they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such accusations.


I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.


I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not true). I 
didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do so (e.g., if you 
make any more false or insulting statements about me, I may respond to them). 
But your accusations, as long as they're on the table, have effectively 
foreclosed on the possibility of our having a friendly discussion of 
philosophy or science or music or any other neutral topic.


And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to think 
it is.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
authfriend wrote:


Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a lie?' 


You seem to be looking for a response from me of the form J says x but y is 
true.


I am looking for an explanation of why you think this.


But it is not a specific fact that makes me come to my conclusion. It is 
rather your pattern of deviousness


OK, stop right there and document that I have a pattern of deviousness, 
with examples.


I am not devious, I am 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 What!  No review of the next to last episode of 
 Breaking Bad? Or the finale episode of Dexter? 

Remember where I am. I downloaded both this morning,
but then had to go to work. I'll see them tonight.

 Where are your priorities? Who gives a shit about 
 a bunch of piddling people piddling over who said 
 what about Whole Foods?

Obviously, some of those people seem to give a rather 
large (and smelly) shit.  :-)

 I tell you what, the next article on TM in the MSM 
 where comments are available I'm going to point to 
 FFL as an example for people to visit and see 
 how TMers behave. :-P

Right ON!

I'll start doing the same thing, every time I see
a reference to TM. If you want to know what the
TM program produces in its practitioners, and how
they turn out after decades of practice, drop by
Fairfield Life.

I don't see how anyone here could complain about
that, right? They've claimed in the past that 
they're PROUD of what they say here and how they
say it and what that says about both them and the
TM technique they feel so strongly about. Let's 
give them a chance to put those words to the test. 

Best idea EVER! I've already started doing it, on
a TM-related thread I saw the other day.

Welcome, lurkers. If you need any help determining
which posters on this forum are the conscientious
TM practitioners, just ask. 


 On 09/23/2013 06:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 
  At 11:53pm yesterday (my time) Judy wrote to Xeno:
  
   Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything
   with you until you've documented your accusations, or
   withdrawn them.
 
  At 5:38am today (my time) Xeno made it clear that he was
  not going to do either, and thus expected Judy to keep her
  word and cease all attempts to have discussions with him:
  
   I did notice that you did not document a number of comments
   you made here. But this response simplifies things immensely
   because if this is true, anything I write to you here on
   FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard to
   these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier
   in the thread, by your own words must stop you from responding
   if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very Robinish!
 
  At 2:28 today (my time), Judy broke her word and wrote to
  Xeno *directly*, after claiming she wouldn't, addressing
  him directly and calling him either very dishonest or very
  stupid.
 
  In other words, having realized the bind she'd placed herself
  in, she backpedalled like crazy and claimed that she'd never
  said she wouldn't comment on things he posted. She's NOT
  commenting in this later reply, she's addressing Xeno
  *directly*, and thus attempting to have a discussion with
  him, the very thing she said she'd not do unless he did
  what she wanted.
 
  In other words, Judy *LIED*.
 
  In Judyworld, addressing a person directly, calling them
  names, and attempting anything she can possibly think of to
  lure them back into an argument is NOT discussing things
  with them. Doing this with someone who had made it clear
  that he was *happy* that she will no longer be attempting to
  discuss things with him is -- in her mind -- NOT discussing
  things with him. It's something else.
 
  Insanity, maybe?  :-)  :-)  :-)
 
 
  Xeno wrote:
 
  *I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made 
  here. But this response simplifies things immensely because if this is 
  true, anything I write to you here on FFL in the absence of my 
  documentation here with regard to these points or my withdrawing my 
  comments here and earlier in the thread, by your own words must stop 
  you from responding if you do not wish to go back on your word. Very 
  Robinish!*
 
 
  You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations 
  which, if they were true, you would be able to document. I made no 
  such accusations.
 
  I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.
 
  I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
  accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not 
  true). I didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do 
  so (e.g., if you make any more false or insulting statements about me, 
  I may respond to them). But your accusations, as long as they're on 
  the table, have effectively foreclosed on the possibility of our 
  having a friendly discussion of philosophy or science or music or 
  any other neutral topic.
 
  And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to 
  think it is.
 
 
 





RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













[FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread Bhairitu
I used to call VW buses bread boxes on wheels.  I winced everytime I 
had to ride in one.  I had two friends who owned them.  I thought they 
were about the most unsafe vehicle on the road given you only had a thin 
wall of metal between you and an oncoming.  Those who survived owing had 
sheer luck.  Of course I myself owned Ralph Nader's number one  unsafe 
vehicles, a Corvair.  Although I only owned it for a few months when it 
was stolen and totaled.

I didn't know that WV still made the bus but they are still being made 
in Brazil until the end of December.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/vws-hippie-hauler-ending-its-long-strange-trip-4B11231364



[FairfieldLife] Re: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb
Merudandasez:
 
 Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

Now THAT is funny!






Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Emily Reyn
Ha ha ha.  Project everything, take in nothing. 



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Emily, happy to help. Are you enjoying yet? Look, Xeno's quoting Shakespeare, 
Judy's using fun words like biffle. What's not to enjoy? Just a matter of where 
you focus your attention. I think that's why you and I see different realities, 
both of which are valid.




 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Thank you for the kind thought Share, you are thinking kindly of me, no? - 
after my observation that you are incapable of grasping the main point of any 
straightforward post (you have now demonstrated my additional observation in 
that comment).    



 From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Emily, I'm enjoying FFL at this moment. I hope you are too.





 From: emilymae.r...@yahoo.com emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Share, I have written you many straightforward posts.  You appear to be 
incapable of grasping the main point of any straightforward post; you seem to 
realize there *is* a point, at which time you move always to derail the post in 
your own mind,  through posting on top of it with meaningless frivolity, 
nonsensical interpretation, or purposeful misinterpretation to avoid whatever 
reality is coming through to you that you want to reject.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


What did I get? That you called Xeno dishonest in a convoluted way? But you 
claim to be the most straight forward poster!





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:00 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Very good, Share, you got that at least. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either dishonest or stupid. Then you 
go on to say TWICE that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a convoluted 
way that he's dishonest.







 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: 
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Xeno wrote:


I did notice that you did not document a number of comments you made here. But 
this response simplifies things immensely because if this is true, anything I 
write to you here on FFL in the absence of my documentation here with regard 
to these points or my withdrawing my comments here and earlier in the thread, 
by your own words must stop you from responding if you do not wish to go back 
on your word. Very Robinish!



You are either very dishonest or very stupid. You made accusations which, if 
they were true, you would be able to document. I made no such accusations.


I don't think you're so stupid as not to have realized this.


I said I wouldn't discuss anything with you unless you withdraw your 
accusations (you can't document them because they're patently not true). I 
didn't say I wouldn't comment if I found it appropriate to do so (e.g., if you 
make any more false or insulting statements about me, I may respond to them). 
But your accusations, as long as they're on the table, have effectively 
foreclosed on the possibility of our having a friendly discussion of 
philosophy or science or music or any other neutral topic.


And that's not even a tiny bit Robinish, nor are you so stupid as to think 
it is.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
authfriend wrote:


Xeno wrote: 

Authfriend wrote: 'For, what, the sixth time, what was the basis for your 
suspicion that what I had written was a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
I shall catch that heaved hat 
then dry your eyes with same
happy just to see your name
Neo'd or not, so glad you came (-:





 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards
 


  
 With one fair hand you heaveth up my hat,
Your other tender hand my fair cheek feels:
Enlightenment struck lowly  down I kneels
And all my dumb play had my acts made plain
With tears, which, chorus-like, my eyes did rain.
Thank You
Now being on my road again- no Neo giving me a mysterious hint for replying
- just in case-
sorry for not answering any replies-and clapping with one hand...posting

Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?



--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:


merudanda, if one flaps the top of one's fingers against the palm of the same 
hand, one indeed hears the sound of one hand clapping. One then looks for other 
koans with which to enjoy the mystery. PS How is Neo treating you? 





 From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:09 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: 2013 Ig Nobel Awards
 


  
The sound of one hand clapping may be one of those proverbial mysteries, but a 
man  arrested and seriously punished ( fined the equivalent of $200-more than 
twice his monthly pension) in Minsk this week for allegedly doing it  certainly 
deserves a Ig Norant award
There was one case where deaf and mute person was accused of shouting 
anti-governmental slogans.Miracles happen in our courts.

Svetlana Kalinkina, editor of the independent Minsk newspaper Narodnaya Volya 

http://www.nv-online.info/

Hope these are something to Ig Nore and are  not really happening 

On the road again -
Insisting that the world keep turning our way





--- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:




Winners of the 2013 Ig Nobel Prizes were announced at a ceremony at Harvard 
University on Thursday night.


— Psychology: An experiment that found people who think they are drunk also 
think they are attractive, conducted by Laurent Bègue, Oulmann Zerhouni, 
Baptiste Subra and Medhi Ourabah of France and Brad Bushman, a professor at 
Ohio State University who also teaches in the Netherlands.


— Joint prize in biology and astronomy: An experiment that showed lost dung 
beetles can use the Milky Way to find their way home. Marie Dacke, Emily 
Baird, Marcus Byrne, Clarke Scholtz and Eric Warrant, who work in Sweden, 
Australia, South Africa, the United Kingdom and Germany.


— Medicine: A study assessing the effect of listening to opera on heart 
transplant patients who are mice. Given to Masateru Uchiyama, Xiangyuan Jin, 
Qi Zhang, Toshihito Hirai, Atsushi Amano, Hisashi Bashuda and Masanori Niimi, 
of Japan, China and the United Kingdom.


— Safety engineering: An electro-mechanical system to trap an airplane 
hijacker by dropping him or her through a trap door, sealing him or her into a 
package and then dropping the packaged hijacker (with a parachute) to the 
ground where police will be waiting. Given to Gustano Pizzo of the U.S., who 
died in 2006.


— Physics: The discovery that some people would be physically capable of 
running across the surface of a pond — if both they and the pond were on the 
moon. Given to Alberto Minetti, Yuri Ivanenko, Germana Cappellini, Nadia 
Dominici, and Francesco Lacquaniti of Italy, the United Kingdom, Switzerland, 
Russia and France.


— Chemistry: The discovery that the biochemical process by which onions make 
people cry is even more complicated than scientists previously realized. 
Shinsuke Imai, Nobuaki Tsuge, Muneaki Tomotake, Yoshiaki Nagatome, Toshiyuki 
Nagata and Hidehiko Kumgai of Japan and Germany.


— Archaeology: Two researchers who parboiled a dead shrew, then swallowed it 
without chewing so they could examine their excrement to see which bones would 
dissolve in the human digestive system and which would not. Given to Brian 
Crandall of the U.S. and Peter Stahl of Canada and the U.S.


— Peace: Belarus and its president, for making it illegal to applaud in 
public, and to the Belarus State Police, for arresting a one-armed man for 
applauding.


— Probability: Researchers who discovered that the longer a cow has been lying 
down, the more likely that cow will soon stand up, but that once a cow stands 
up, you cannot easily predict how soon that cow will lie down again. Awarded 
to Bert Tolkamp, Marie Haskell, Fritha Langford, David Roberts and Colin 
Morgan of the United Kingdom, the Netherlands and Canada.


— Public health: For medical techniques described in their report, Surgical 
Management of an Epidemic of Penile Amputations in Siam. They recommend the 
techniques, except in cases where an amputated penis had been partially eaten 
by a duck. Awarded to Kasian Bhanganada, Tu Chayavatana, 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Emily Reyn
She looks at him like a brother?  Smile.  They *are* similar in certain ways. 
 



 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Emily observed with her usual sagacity: 

It's not Share's fault that she doesn't understand the conceptual difference 
between the two - she has never tried to have a discussion. 

Good point. One would think, however, that even she would know better by now 
than to follow Barry's get Judy leads, but it's just hard--for me, at 
least--to fathom the depths of her cluelessness.





 From: Share Long sharelong60@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Ok, Judy, you made a distinction between discussing with Xeno and commenting on 
what he said. Seems a bit hair splitty to me but there you are: different 
strokes for different folks. 





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
FWIW, there was no change of mind on my part. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


turq, even in Funny Farm Lounge, to change her mind is a woman's perogative. 
But I don't think of that as lying.


I'd have to agree with you here Share, but I'll take it one step further and 
say it is anyone's prerogative to change their mind without being branded a 
liar. Something as trivial as saying the equivalent of, I'm not going to eat 
any chocolate cake because I'm on a diet. and then changes their mind after 
deciding it looks too good to resist is hardly someone to be reviled for 
having not predicted their future actions correctly. Now, speaking of cake...







 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either 
 dishonest or stupid. Then you go on to say TWICE 
 that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a 
 convoluted way that he's dishonest.

All while having a discussion with the person
she claimed only yesterday she was never going
to discuss *anything* with until he either 
documented something or retracted it. He
did neither.

And she thinks HE's dishonest? Chortle.








 

Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Emily, must you pick on turq so?!





 From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
She looks at him like a brother?  Smile.  They *are* similar in certain ways. 
 



 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Emily observed with her usual sagacity: 

It's not Share's fault that she doesn't understand the conceptual difference 
between the two - she has never tried to have a discussion. 

Good point. One would think, however, that even she would know better by now 
than to follow Barry's get Judy leads, but it's just hard--for me, at 
least--to fathom the depths of her cluelessness.





 From: Share Long sharelong60@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
Ok, Judy, you made a distinction between discussing with Xeno and commenting on 
what he said. Seems a bit hair splitty to me but there you are: different 
strokes for different folks. 





 From: authfriend@... authfriend@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
FWIW, there was no change of mind on my part. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


turq, even in Funny Farm Lounge, to change her mind is a woman's perogative. 
But I don't think of that as lying.


I'd have to agree with you here Share, but I'll take it one step further and 
say it is anyone's prerogative to change their mind without being branded a 
liar. Something as trivial as saying the equivalent of, I'm not going to eat 
any chocolate cake because I'm on a diet. and then changes their mind after 
deciding it looks too good to resist is hardly someone to be reviled for 
having not predicted their future actions correctly. Now, speaking of cake...







 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods
 


  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, here you begin by telling Xeno he's either 
 dishonest or stupid. Then you go on to say TWICE 
 that he's not stupid. Ergo, you are saying in a 
 convoluted way that he's dishonest.

All while having a discussion with the person
she claimed only yesterday she was never going
to discuss *anything* with until he either 
documented something or retracted it. He
did neither.

And she thinks HE's dishonest? Chortle.










 

RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread doctordumbass













RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread emilymae.reyn













Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
noozguru or anyone, a dvd is stuck in the dvd player. I called Panasonic but 
they put me on terminal hold. It's a library dvd too! Any ideas? thanks





 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
I used to call VW buses bread boxes on wheels.  I winced everytime I 
had to ride in one.  I had two friends who owned them.  I thought they 
were about the most unsafe vehicle on the road given you only had a thin 
wall of metal between you and an oncoming.  Those who survived owing had 
sheer luck.  Of course I myself owned Ralph Nader's number one  unsafe 
vehicles, a Corvair.  Although I only owned it for a few months when it 
was stolen and totaled.

I didn't know that WV still made the bus but they are still being made 
in Brazil until the end of December.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/vws-hippie-hauler-ending-its-long-strange-trip-4B11231364


 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread doctordumbass













RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread anartaxius













Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread Emily Reyn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKV5zz_704




 From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 10:43 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
Dynamite. Don't stand too far away in case the fuse burns out and you have to 
relight it. Otherwise, if the DVD is going to be overdue, take the whole unit 
into the library and say, 'The DVD is stuck in here. Can you help me get it 
out?' See what they do. There should be enough techies in FF to figure it out 
in any case. But suppose you were stuck on that metaphorical desert island, and 
there was no one to help you. How would you proceed? (That means getting the 
DVD out of the player; if you are on that island, no way you are going to 
return the DVD on time.)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share 
wrote:


noozguru or anyone, a dvd is stuck in the dvd player. I called Panasonic but 
they put me on terminal hold. It's a library dvd too! Any ideas? thanks





 

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Doc and Xeno, thank you! I did it! And guess what the key was? A regular sized 
paper clip didn't work. I had to get a large paper clip to get the tray to 
partially open.  





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
Re: stuck DVD

This link has every suggestion I could think of:

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/209005-Panasonic-DVD-S47-Disc-Stuck-In-Machine
 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


noozguru or anyone, a dvd is stuck in the dvd player. I called Panasonic but 
they put me on terminal hold. It's a library dvd too! Any ideas? thanks





 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
I used to call VW buses bread boxes on wheels.  I winced everytime I 
had to ride in one.  I had two friends who owned them.  I thought they 
were about the most unsafe vehicle on the road given you only had a thin 
wall of metal between you and an oncoming.  Those who survived owing had 
sheer luck.  Of course I myself owned Ralph Nader's number one  unsafe 
vehicles, a Corvair.  Although I only owned it for a few months when it 
was stolen and totaled.

I didn't know that WV still made the bus but they are still being made 
in Brazil until the end of December.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/vws-hippie-hauler-ending-its-long-strange-trip-4B11231364




 

[FairfieldLife] Slice 'O Life vs. Life

2013-09-23 Thread turquoiseb

SPOILERS FOR BOTH DEXTER AND BREAKING BAD. BE WARNED.

A cafe review, of sorts, of the last episode of Dexter, and the
next-to-last episode of Breaking Bad.

On one level, you can contrast the two as Hollywood Ending vs.
Anti-Hollywood Ending. In Hollywood, image reigns supreme. Even the
most evil characters can die relatively happy if they manage to escape
the real-world consequences of their actions. In the world of anti-hero
cinema, often the anti-heros get away Scot-free, and never have to face
the music of their carefully-constructed projected image being revealed
as the sham it is.

Although I thoroughly enjoyed the whole Dexter series, I honestly feel
that its creators took the Hollywood low road when ending the series.
They went for the ending that will make the most people 'feel good'
while at the same time satisfying their 'moral' desires for a 'moral'
ending. In other words, they chose the fantasy ending, not the
real-world ending.

Breaking Bad is taking that cliche and turning it on its head,
allowing Walter White all the agony of Having Been Found Out, And In
Public. It's showing -- both to him and to us in the audience -- all the
real-world consequences of his actions, and the karma those actions have
wrought, for both him and his family. The series' creators are allowing
Walt and Jesse not only to FEEL the consequences of their actions, but
to wallow in them.

The Mighty Heisenberg is holed up in a cabin in the Granite State (in
more ways than one) reading month-old newspapers brought to him by his
only human contact, and learning that his son hates him, that his wife
is being harassed by the cops, that he can't even control *Saul* any
more, that his former drug empire is now being run by Todd (the 'kid' he
treated as his inferior, just as he had treated Jesse) and by his
relatives Uncle Jack and the Nazis, that they're still cooking his
signature blue meth, that they and Lydia are not only still marketing
it, but marketing it abroad, and that the *first* fantasy of his
extraordinary fantasy life (being the co-founder of a
multi-billion-dollar company) is being dismantled in front of his eyes.

This is Walter White Hell. In Dexter, we only get to see a glimmer of
his. But in Breaking Bad, we get to see Walter snap! and finally drop
all the pretense, all the Narcissistic Personality Disorder lies and
posturing, and give up. Walter White is dead. And then the last
learning above happens, and he snaps! again.

Seeing his former lover and former business partner dissing him on the
TV causes the second snap!, and that the Walter White they knew is dead.
And at the bar where Walter White was sitting only moments before, ready
to give everything up, now there is only a partially-finished drink.
Walter may be dead, but Heisenberg is not.





Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Xeno, it's always good to laugh in these situations. I found an owner's 
manual online and will try not to electrocute self (-:

I got upset and hung up on Panasonic because they wanted my street address 
which is NOT the billing address of my credit card! 




 From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:43 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
Dynamite. Don't stand too far away in case the fuse burns out and you have to 
relight it. Otherwise, if the DVD is going to be overdue, take the whole unit 
into the library and say, 'The DVD is stuck in here. Can you help me get it 
out?' See what they do. There should be enough techies in FF to figure it out 
in any case. But suppose you were stuck on that metaphorical desert island, and 
there was no one to help you. How would you proceed? (That means getting the 
DVD out of the player; if you are on that island, no way you are going to 
return the DVD on time.)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share 
wrote:


noozguru or anyone, a dvd is stuck in the dvd player. I called Panasonic but 
they put me on terminal hold. It's a library dvd too! Any ideas? thanks





 

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels

2013-09-23 Thread Share Long
Nice, Doc, thanks, useful to ask other users.





 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
Re: stuck DVD

This link has every suggestion I could think of:

http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/209005-Panasonic-DVD-S47-Disc-Stuck-In-Machine
 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


noozguru or anyone, a dvd is stuck in the dvd player. I called Panasonic but 
they put me on terminal hold. It's a library dvd too! Any ideas? thanks





 From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 11:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] End of the Bread Box on Wheels
 


  
I used to call VW buses bread boxes on wheels.  I winced everytime I 
had to ride in one.  I had two friends who owned them.  I thought they 
were about the most unsafe vehicle on the road given you only had a thin 
wall of metal between you and an oncoming.  Those who survived owing had 
sheer luck.  Of course I myself owned Ralph Nader's number one  unsafe 
vehicles, a Corvair.  Although I only owned it for a few months when it 
was stolen and totaled.

I didn't know that WV still made the bus but they are still being made 
in Brazil until the end of December.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/vws-hippie-hauler-ending-its-long-strange-trip-4B11231364




 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Oprah reaps the benefits of the unified field....

2013-09-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5













Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
   Check out Ann, the bottom poster, and her reply to my
   post about home security! Good example of prejudice:
  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/358450

On 9/22/2013 8:13 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Ha, Richard, the guy who says he has to protect himself
  from gays, transgendered men and women and lesbians (not
  to mention skinheads). Who's the prejudiced one? But he's
  right, I think I hate Texas.
 
So, you hate Whole Foods Market because it's a Texas company
and I hate neo-Nazi skinhead bikers breaking into my house.

Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

According to the official store list, there are three Whole
Foods Markets located in New Jersey - not one of them is
anywhere near a Jersey shore, her neck of the woods,
according to Google Earth.

http://wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/list

On 9/20/2013 11:46 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:


Regarding Judy and Whole Foods (Whole Wallet). Based on what she has 
said, if true, I would say there is a Whole Foods within about a dozen 
miles (20km  approx.) of her location.



There's no privacy on the internet - they can find out
anything they want to know about you just by nailing
down the IP Address that you used to post this message.

Maybe she wants to keep a certain amount of privacy in not nailing 
down her location. I like privacy. Barry likes privacy (you cannot 
email him through the forum). The home I live in is not in my name; my 
telephone is unlisted (which unfortunately does not work for telephone 
scammers using war dialing). If she travels there or not and how and 
what kind of foods she likes to eat is for her to tell us or not. The 
distance figure I calculated, if the locations I used are correct, 
will be within 25% plus or minus about 12% of the correct value.









RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread j_alexander_stanley













RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Surviving Whole Foods

2013-09-23 Thread authfriend













Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Chromecast, was Apple TV, was Roku

2013-09-23 Thread Richard J. Williams

Yes, I'm all in favor of using cables for moving data and
that's why I use gigabyte ethernet on my main workstation
to connect with Rita's workstation when I want to move
large video files. My external drive for backup is connected
to my workstation with eSata.

What I am trying to do is install a home media delivery
system that everyone in the family can access without
cables running on the floor to each room.

So far, I have not had a big problem with the Wi-Fi tuned
in to Netflix - there's probably going to be some buffering
on videos, but so far I can live with it.

Access to my mp3 music files with the Wi-Fi has not been
a problem.

So, I've got the broadband at 14 bps into the Motorola
Surfer, the wireless NAS on RAID, the headless Windows
Home Server, the smart BD player, the Roku, WD Live,
Chromecast, and an Ultra Book with wireless N.

Wireless -now that's better!

On 9/21/2013 8:39 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote:


I deleted my first response to this because my mind was glomming onto 
a recent article in the Source about using Chromecast with tablets or 
phones, which are, themselves, crude interfaces to  the Internet. If 
used with a real computer, I can see how Chromecast is handy for 
playing Internet content on a TV, but I would still opt for sending 
the video and audio from my Macbook over cables, which are far more 
robust and reliable than WiFi.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


So, what is Chromecast?

Broadcast to your TV with the Chrome browser on your laptop computer.

Anything you see on your computer screen, you can cast it to your big
screen TV. That way you can see your YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, and
Amazon. And you can subscribe to Google Channels.

Get rid of cable! Did I tell you that the Chromcast is $35.00?

You plug in the Chromecast dongle using HDMI, Then you install the
Mozilla Chrome browser on your laptop. After you complete a short setup
on the internet you can connect and cast via your home Wi-Fi network.

Casting from my Ultra Book:

Chromecast dongle on HDMI2:






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