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Buck sez: Hey, I am finding the comparison of the Chinese model to TM as two revolutionary millenarian groups extremely interesting. Hm...let's see...comparing Mao and his legacy to MMY and his. As Buck says, that comparison certainly *is* interesting. From Wikipedia: ...critics, including some historians, have labeled him [Mao] a dictator whose administration oversaw systematic human rights abuses, and whose rule is estimated to have caused the deaths of 4070 million people through starvation, forced labor and executions, ranking his tenure as the top incidence of democide in human history. I guess there's much to look forward to as the TMO moves further into the 21st century...
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[FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories
Sorry to disappoint the Judester and her gloat-fest, but it appears that Neo has retreated yet again back into the baseboards from which it crawled, and left me free to darken her cyberdoorway. So I will. :-) As people wait for this Sunday's final episode of Breaking Bad, naturally the Web is rife with speculations about how it will end. We've already seen flashforwards in which Walt buys a big-ass machine gun, but BB has established a long history of showing us glimpses of its future that tantalize but reveal nothing. (Think the bear in the swimming pool.) Similarly, the BB creators publish the titles of each new episode on IMDB, but without any plot summary, and they've been equally tantalizing, but equally non-revealing. (Think Ozymandias or Say My Name.) The title for this last episode has BB conspiracy theorists going crazy. It's Felina. Other than an obvious anagram of finale, WTF could that possibly refer to? My favorite theory invokes Marty Robbins' classic song El Paso, which contained a woman named Felina. You decide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY The scene I'm counting on was even hinted at in the series. The moment I saw that machine gun, I thought of the scene from Brian De Palma's Scarface, in which Al Pacino comes out carrying an equally-big-ass machine gun and shouting, Say hello to my little friend! Sure enough, in the very next episode, Walt and Walt Jr. are watching TV in their house, and that very scene is playing in the background. One thing I know is that the future does not look rosy for Walt's former lover and her husband, the co-founders of the company Gray Matter who dissed Walt on TV last week. They were both wearing yellow. Think of the other characters who have worn yellow, and what happened to them -- Gus Fring, Brock, and Drew (the kid shot by Todd). I'm thinkin' that this color choice on the part of Gretchen and Elliot is as bad a move as appearing on Star Trek wearing a different color uniform from the other crewmen beamed down to the surface of a planet. The minute you see that, you know that soon Bones is going to be standing over his corpse saying, He's dead, Jim. Elliot and Gretchen are toast. Then there's a promo photo making the rounds that shows a determined-looking Walt and Jesse, spattered with blood, charging somewhere side by side. Since I've never seen a scene like that in the series so far, that one makes me think of the ending of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. I kinda like this one. But by far the most amusing is the theory that the series is not going to end at all, and instead is going to merge with and morph into another popular series. I can hear the tag line now: Winter is coming, and it's got a big-ass machine gun. :-) http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/672983061/11-Breaking-Bad-Season-font\ -b-TV-b-font-font-b-Show-b-font-2012-Hot.jpg http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/672983061/11-Breaking-Bad-Season-fon\ t-b-TV-b-font-font-b-Show-b-font-2012-Hot.jpg
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emptybill, does ritam occur only on the para level or also on the pashyanti level where the four levels of speech from tantric tradition are para (transcendent or nondual speech), pashyanti (the speech which is seen), madhyama (mental speech), vaikhari (spoken speech). In para, one just has to hang around a nondual realizer and they realize that that state transmits the potentiality for all answers without an intervening transfer. So the tension of question and answer just spontaneously resolves itself at that level. Thus a realizer radiating bodhichitta, the thought of enlightenment for all sentience tends to actualize realization in others merely by their presence, although this is not necessarily is limited by space/ distance or time. Pashyanti is pure visionary speech beyond karmic vision. Madhyama are thoughts or communication within the mental body or dimension. Vaikhari is dualistic speech coming from our vocal chords. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:25 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Ritam Bhara Prajña Ha Ha ,,, All this talk about Ritam ... doesn't anyone here read Vyasa's commentary on the Yoga Sutras? August, 2010 reply ... (Now that is Rtam.) Ritam-bhara prajna is not described this way by Vyasa so I am not sure where this interpretation comes from. Ritam prajna is described by him as direct non-conceptual knowing of a particular in which there is no such thing as a general idea (that means no abstraction whatsoever, whether linguistic or conceptual). This type of direct cognition is unconditioned by concepts of space, time or cause. That means this insight or direct perception is independent of: 1. any locus of the seer/seeing /seen 2. any sequence of moments in which it occurs 3. any causal conditions which seem to anchor or produce such insight. This type of direct cognition sees the specific characteristics and qualities of an object just as it is in itself without regard to the overlays of conditioning, either by thought, language or culture, whether known or unknown. Although Ritam is described in the Rig Veda as the Right, it is conjoined with Satyam (Truth) and Brihat (the Vast Expanse) i.e. these are three mutual values that uphold the universe. Just as prakriti is just the three guna-s functioning together in coordination, so Dharma is satyam, ritam, brihat ... the Truth, the Right, the Vast ... conjoined in universal functioning. Swaha ... Swa ha ha ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share wrote: yep (-:
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators
[FairfieldLife] RE: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories
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your science is presented each day in the behavior of Bevan et al whom you find so offensive - their behavior is a product of religiously practicing Marshy's techniques - if repeated transcendence leads to enlightenment, where did it go wrong in every leader, manager and even low level functionary of the Movement? You can't have it both ways - either TMSP and all the money making secondary programs work or they don't - they work all right, as evidenced by the draconian measures the Movement creates to protect is monetary interests. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators Yep, The Pernicious Anti-science of Anti-TM resistance, as counter-revolutionaries like MJ and their ex-TM like as per like Mao's assessment on wrong-headedness or wrong thinking I don't see the organized resistance against TM as being entirely bad but that they just need to change their thinking around TM... need to look at the science on meditation more, get their meditation checked and refreshed, and certainly get some further experience in effective practice some more. Then they'd know what they are doing. Headlines in the news: Michael Jackson made some bad choices http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24280890 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Seems some good old advice that evidently bears out now roughly transliterated from the Chairman's in to TM going forward: “Our meditating movement must of necessity use the democratic method of persuasion and education when working among meditators and the non-meditators and must on no account resort to commandism or coercion. Our administrators, teachers and meditator comrades must understand that spiritual remoulding involves long-term, patient and painstaking work, and they must not attempt to change people's ideology, by giving a few lectures or by holding a few meetings. Persuasion, not compulsion, is the only way to convince them. Compulsion will never result in convincing them. [Like, the old guard's anti-saint policy and administrative guideline held over meditators and teachers?] To try to convince them by force simply won't work. This kind of method is permissible in dealing with the enemy, but absolutely impermissible in dealing with meditators and friends.” ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Rough chinese transliteration in to TM: “A proper measure of democracy should be put into effect in the meditating movement, chiefly by abolishing the feudal practice of bullying and beating we have now and by having administrators and meditators share weal and woe. Once this is done, unity will be achieved between administrators and meditators and the teaching effectiveness of the meditating movement will be greatly increased, and there will be no doubt of our ability to sustain the long-going and sustained spiritual work of the Unified Field in the world.” They [TM] are in the midst of revolution and they have a lot of resource yet with people who see eye to eye on this. But like the chinese in their cultural revolution and modernizing it becomes more orderly and based more on meritocracy after the party tru-believers and corruption gets pressed out of it in time. It ain't over yet by a long shot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In time I feel we'll also come to see Nader Ram emerge as the Satguru he was prepared to become by Maharishi. Right as yet he is still in a removed administrator Maha-raja protected role. But his mystery of being with Maharishi will shortly unfold more. His Guru-hood sanctified is coming as people will get to be more directly with him. That is happening and that will happen more in time. TM is not over by a long shot. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, the whole TM movement has already moved over towards Hagelin with Lynch and the people gathered around them for as long as they live and succession is in fact actively being planned for. A friend who is an aid to Hagelin recently drew a flow chart for me and filled it out and it is extremely realistic. They are on the move. They are in the midst of revolution and they have a lot of resource yet with people who see eye to eye on this. But like the chinese in their cultural revolution and modernizing it becomes more orderly and based more on meritocracy after the party tru-believers and corruption gets pressed out of it in time. It ain't over yet by a long shot. The fifth estate and the internet certainly has a large role in helping shape how it is going with transparency. Even MJ here as a counter-revolutionary ex-TM'er has a role to play in helping it live long and prosper. There can't be mistakes in the truth!
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: quot;Secrets of Alchemyquot;
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Ha ha ha ha! Well said Barry! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 3:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators Buck sez: Hey, I am finding the comparison of the Chinese model to TM as two revolutionary millenarian groups extremely interesting. Hm...let's see...comparing Mao and his legacy to MMY and his. As Buck says, that comparison certainly *is* interesting. From Wikipedia: ...critics, including some historians, have labeled him [Mao] a dictator whose administration oversaw systematic human rights abuses, and whose rule is estimated to have caused the deaths of 40–70 million people through starvation, forced labor and executions, ranking his tenure as the top incidence of democide in human history. I guess there's much to look forward to as the TMO moves further into the 21st century...
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[FairfieldLife] The Beast and the unborn
[FairfieldLife] RE: quot;Secrets of Alchemyquot;
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy
Seraphita, I can't help but think about Big Pharma as I read these posts about alchemy. There are hints that it had to do with herbs and health. Certainly longevity, maybe even immortality? I would think that he Church would be against immortality obtained in such an earthly way! As for nowadays I don't think Big Pharma would want anyone finding out about health and longevity within the realm of herbs and herbal combinations. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy Re: I'm not sure quite what you're asking. I don't think anybody feels inhibited about discussing either the spiritual or the chemistry aspects of alchemy . . . I encountered Jung's theories about alchemy, which portrayed it as an experimental discipline purportedly leading to enlightenment, for which lead-into-gold and all the various laboratory procedures and results described in the texts were merely coded metaphors intended to throw the Church off the scent of heresy. : That's precisely what I'm referring to. As you and I don't have to worry about the Church burning us at the stake we no longer need to decipher coded metaphors or wade through arcane symbolism. And so, with a sigh of relief, if we want to talk about spirituality we can call a spade a spade and speak to each other in plain language. Therefore alchemy is now just a historical curiosity. There are some modern alchemists who claim that their discipline is neither fancy symbolism for a spiritual search nor just a chemistry set but . . . well, something else - but I'm not sure what they're on about as you have to join a secret society or whatever to learn more. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Seraphita wondered: If alchemy is viewed as a spiritual practice which, in the past, had to hide its secrets to avoid persecution from the Church then why bother about all that impenetrable symbolism now that we are free to say what we like? I'm not sure quite what you're asking. I don't think anybody feels inhibited about discussing either the spiritual or the chemistry aspects of alchemy. I'm fascinated by the book's thesis because when I first heard about alchemy (probably in high school 50-mumble years ago), it was portrayed as a superstitious and obviously futile attempt to turn lead into gold by folks who knew nothing of the principles of chemistry. Some years later I encountered Jung's theories about alchemy, which portrayed it as an experimental discipline purportedly leading to enlightenment, for which lead-into-gold and all the various laboratory procedures and results described in the texts were merely coded metaphors intended to throw the Church off the scent of heresy. Now it turns out, apparently, that the alchemists were really skilled chemists, and what their texts actually encoded in flowery language were the actual recipes of their laboratory procedures and results. The idea that the texts really dealt with esoteric practices for enlightenment had led scholars to disregard the authentic chemistry behind the encoding. Which isn't to say the alchemists were not spiritually minded, given that knowledge itself was perceived to be divine, but rather that they were genuinely pursuing the secrets of chemistry, with considerable success (although they obviously never achieved the ultimate goal of transmuting lead into gold). IOW, the alchemists were neither fuzzy-headed would-be scientists nor fuzzy-headed would-be saints but real scientists who believed their experimental work would prove to be dangerous if it fell into the hands of people who didn't know what they were doing--hence the encoding, which would be understandable only to other highly trained alchemists. At least, this is how I understand the review to be characterizing the thesis of the book. If alchemy is viewed as involving real ingredients going into real retorts, etc, is there anything the old-time alchemists knew that modern chemists don't know? I was wondering too about whether the book said the alchemists knew anything modern chemists don't, but I think the reviewer meant their results were spectacular only relative to the knowledge of the times. Modern chemists might well be surprised and impressed by how much the alchemists had figured out so many centuries ago, but they wouldn't learn anything new about chemistry per se. Does that help? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: From a review by Nicholas Popper of Lawrence M. Principe's Secrets of Alchemy: Alchemy has not always been associated with esoteric mystics muttering necromantic incantations in the quest for spiritual purification. For much of its history, Principe reveals, alchemy was recognized as a sophisticated pursuit entailing the vigorous exertion
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Beast and the unborn
Seraphita, I remember that the Natural Law Party many years ago was pro choice, recognizing that abortion is a tragedy and also that a woman has a right to choose. Their platform said it in a more expanded and elegant way but that was the gist of it. During my decades around spiritual groups, I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months and that stillbirths, for example, occur when the soul changes its mind about incarnating and or experiencing that particular life path. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Beast and the unborn As the magus Aleister Crowley was a sexual degenerate and hoovered up multiple partners during his career I'd rather lazily assumed that he would be in favour of abortion. I was surprised to come across this quote of his: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder. Apart from anything else, it nearly always ruins the health of the woman, when it fails to kill her. The vigour of my views on this point strengthens my general attitude on the question of sexual freedom. I believe that very few women, left to themselves, would be so vile as to commit this sin against the Holy Ghost; to thwart the deepest instincts of nature at the risk of health and Life, to say nothing of imprisonment. Yet criminal abortion is one of the commonest of crimes and one most generally condoned by what I must paradoxically call secret public opinion. And the reason is that our social system makes it shameful and punishable by poverty for a woman to do what evolution has spent ages in constructing her to do, save under conditions with which the vast majority of women cannot possibly comply. The remedy lies entirely with public opinion. Let motherhood be recognized as honourable in itself, and even the pressure of poverty would not prevent any but a few degenerate women, with perverse appetites for pleasure, from fulfilling their function. In the case of such it would indeed be better that they and their children perish. So - not pulling any punches there! A lot of what Aleister objects to in the passage above could probably be answered by having the type of child-care provision we have in European-style welfare states. However, he raises a more interesting objection (though I couldn't immediately spot a quote via Google just now) when he claimed that belief in reincarnation implies a belief that abortion must be a crime. Why? Because, according to the doctrine a soul has chosen to incarnate in a particular foetus and to deny that life a chance to grow you have thwarted the true will of that soul. But this view is, I see, a commonplace one for those who hold to reincarnation. The following passage is lifted from the BBC website. The doctrine of reincarnation, which sees life as a repeating cycle of birth, death and rebirth, is basic to Hindu thinking. The doctrine of reincarnation can be used to make a strong case against abortion: If a foetus is aborted, the soul within it suffers a major karmic setback. It is deprived of the opportunities its potential human existence would have given it to earn good karma, and is returned immediately to the cycle of birth, death and rebirth. Thus abortion hinders a soul's spiritual progress. Maharishi would have accepted these ideas, no? In Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, Judith Bourque's controversial story of her affair with the rishi, Judith claims that she asked Maharishi what would happen if she became pregnant. He said he would arrange for the child to be adopted. (I wonder if that ever happened via another of his playmates? If so, the child would have wanted for nothing in material terms.) Note: it is possible to hold the opinions mentioned and yet still claim that any particular woman should have a legal right to choose for herself.
[FairfieldLife] Kindle?
There are mobile devices all over the house - Rita's got a Kindle, Rose got an iPad. So, you can read ebooks on a tablet or on an ereader like Amazon Kindle, Apple iPad, Barnes Noble Nook, or on a Pandigital. And, you can view ebooks games, music, video, and magazines from iTunes, Amazon and Barnes Noble. The selection is vast and more are added every day. Sure you can read an ebook on a laptop computer, but who wants to lug one of those bricks to bed or out back to the outhouse? Go figure. These days, most of the tablets are much faster than a year ago. Now they've got a 2.2GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800, upgraded from the TI OMAP processors in older models. RAM got a boost as well, to 2 GB from 1 for better graphics. We used to read books from the library all the time - did you know that the public library can get any book you want through the inter-library system? We used to buy a lot of books too - we've got Half-Price Books stores all over the place around here. At one time we had hundreds of books stashed across three cities! One guy I know who is a collector and seller on eBay has three garages full of books and stuff! Has anyone ever considered how much their stuff weighs? LoL! How cool would it be to have all your stuff in digital form, so you could access it with a few key strokes, instead of searching for days for something to read? So, we've set up a separate desktop computer with a flat bed scanner in the home office to work with Adobe and OCR software. This might interest anyone that lives in a rural area or those who don't have easy access to a library or a local book store. ...the redesigned Kindle Fire HDX. The update, which brings the expected refreshed specs to the tablets, also adds a surprising new feature to the mix: human customer support over a live video chat. 'What You Need to Know About Amazon's New Kindle Fire HDX' Popular Mechanics: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/ http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/tech-news/what-you-need-to-know-about-amazons-new-kindle-fire-hdx-15966241?click=pm_latest 'Reviews and Buying Advice' PC World: http://www.pcworld.com/category/e-readers/
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: quot;Secrets of Alchemyquot;
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Americans Think Putin More Effective Than Obama
In yesterday’s U.N. speech, Obama kissed goodbye to U.S. allies and signed on with Iran, Russia, and Syria. Go figure. 'Obama Switches Sides' The Weekly Standard: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/ http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-switches-sides_757159.html?nopager=1 On 9/26/2013 7:15 PM, wleed3 wrote: Americans Think Putin More Effective Than Obama
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[FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
On 9/26/2013 9:25 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Ritam prajna The phrase 'rtam' is related to the 'amrita' mentioned in chapter 17-19 of Mbh - the 'churning of the milk ocean'. According to MMY 'rtamrita' is produced in the human gut during the practice of TM - otherwise called Soma in the Rig Veda. The most popular version of the Indian myth 'Churning the milk Ocean' is found in the Eighth Canto of the Bhagavata Purana. In Buddhist mythology, Amrita is the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality.
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy
Judy, as I said, there were hints, brief mentions of herbs. I was suggesting that option given that neither chemistry nor enlightenment seemed to cover the whole endeavor, especially in contemporary times. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy You might just want to read the entire exchange, Share, including the quote I posted initially from the review of the new book about alchemy, as well as my responses to Seraphita. (You could even read the entire review at the link I posted.) Then you'll know what the most up-to-date scholarly research says about alchemy, instead of having to resort to outdated speculations. I've left everything in below so you can check it out. Share wrote: Seraphita, I can't help but think about Big Pharma as I read these posts about alchemy. There are hints that it had to do with herbs and health. Certainly longevity, maybe even immortality? I would think that he Church would be against immortality obtained in such an earthly way! As for nowadays I don't think Big Pharma would want anyone finding out about health and longevity within the realm of herbs and herbal combinations. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy Re: I'm not sure quite what you're asking. I don't think anybody feels inhibited about discussing either the spiritual or the chemistry aspects of alchemy . . . I encountered Jung's theories about alchemy, which portrayed it as an experimental discipline purportedly leading to enlightenment, for which lead-into-gold and all the various laboratory procedures and results described in the texts were merely coded metaphors intended to throw the Church off the scent of heresy. : That's precisely what I'm referring to. As you and I don't have to worry about the Church burning us at the stake we no longer need to decipher coded metaphors or wade through arcane symbolism. And so, with a sigh of relief, if we want to talk about spirituality we can call a spade a spade and speak to each other in plain language. Therefore alchemy is now just a historical curiosity. There are some modern alchemists who claim that their discipline is neither fancy symbolism for a spiritual search nor just a chemistry set but . . . well, something else - but I'm not sure what they're on about as you have to join a secret society or whatever to learn more. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Seraphita wondered: If alchemy is viewed as a spiritual practice which, in the past, had to hide its secrets to avoid persecution from the Church then why bother about all that impenetrable symbolism now that we are free to say what we like? I'm not sure quite what you're asking. I don't think anybody feels inhibited about discussing either the spiritual or the chemistry aspects of alchemy. I'm fascinated by the book's thesis because when I first heard about alchemy (probably in high school 50-mumble years ago), it was portrayed as a superstitious and obviously futile attempt to turn lead into gold by folks who knew nothing of the principles of chemistry. Some years later I encountered Jung's theories about alchemy, which portrayed it as an experimental discipline purportedly leading to enlightenment, for which lead-into-gold and all the various laboratory procedures and results described in the texts were merely coded metaphors intended to throw the Church off the scent of heresy. Now it turns out, apparently, that the alchemists were really skilled chemists, and what their texts actually encoded in flowery language were the actual recipes of their laboratory procedures and results. The idea that the texts really dealt with esoteric practices for enlightenment had led scholars to disregard the authentic chemistry behind the encoding. Which isn't to say the alchemists were not spiritually minded, given that knowledge itself was perceived to be divine, but rather that they were genuinely pursuing the secrets of chemistry, with considerable success (although they obviously never achieved the ultimate goal of transmuting lead into gold). IOW, the alchemists were neither fuzzy-headed would-be scientists nor fuzzy-headed would-be saints but real scientists who believed their experimental work would prove to be dangerous if it fell into the hands of people who didn't know what they were doing--hence the encoding, which would be understandable only to other highly trained alchemists. At least, this is how I understand the review to be characterizing the thesis of the book. If alchemy is viewed as involving real ingredients going into real retorts, etc, is there anything the
[FairfieldLife] RE: quot;Secrets of Alchemyquot;
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Then add in ancestral karma and one can see why karma is unfathomable. Because it's just about infinite! Anyway, the soul might choose such a situation to burn off some similar karma from a previous life. Seems reasonable to have high intentions, do our best and leave the rest up to the lords of karma. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: (snip) Re authfriend's I'm not sure this makes a lot of sense. Assuming the soul chooses the circumstances of its next life, why would it pick a mother who is going to abort? : because the soul chose parents with the right genes and circumstances for its future progress but it couldn't know in advance that the mother would later freely choose to abort. OooK... As to karma having to be matched for both mother and fetus: I'd hate to have to do the balancing act required for that one to work out. Unfathomable is the course of action [i.e., karma]. (Krishna to Arjuna in the Gita)
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy
ah ha! the plot thickens... From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy In new-age shops I've noticed a couple of books by this chap - I've not read them but he's into TM! ROBERT E. COX holds a master’s degree in Vedic Studies from the Institute of Creative Intelligence in Switzerland. For nine years he lived as a reclusive monk, during which time he received intuitive cognitions regarding the structure and dynamics of consciousness that inspired his research. Might be worth a peek? Google the titles : - The Elixir of Immortality: A Modern-Day Alchemist's Discovery of the Philosopher's Stone and Creating the Soul Body: The Sacred Science of Immortality ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: From a review by Nicholas Popper of Lawrence M. Principe's Secrets of Alchemy: Alchemy has not always been associated with esoteric mystics muttering necromantic incantations in the quest for spiritual purification. For much of its history, Principe reveals, alchemy was recognized as a sophisticated pursuit entailing the vigorous exertion of mind and hand, a convergence of laboratory experimentation and theoretical speculation that yielded spectacular control of chemical processes. To protect their hard-earned knowledge, alchemists wrote under pseudonyms and encrypted discoveries in mystical-sounding codenames (Decknamen). While this contributed to alchemy’s association with mysticism, Principe argues persuasively that its traditional essence lay in the expert combining of substances, and that no account of it can rightfully ignore its experimental and material foundations ...Such flawed [mystical] interpretations stem from projecting post-Enlightenment meanings of alchemy onto the earlier period and assuming that earlier alchemists’ spiritual declarations wholly governed their coded recipesThese reflected a context in which all knowledge was described as a divine gift Read more: http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1317931.ece
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
Richard, should we not join this thread with the alchemy thread?! From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace On 9/26/2013 9:25 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Ritam prajna The phrase 'rtam' is related to the 'amrita' mentioned in chapter 17-19 of Mbh - the 'churning of the milk ocean'. According to MMY 'rtamrita' is produced in the human gut during the practice of TM - otherwise called Soma in the Rig Veda. The most popular version of the Indian myth 'Churning the milk Ocean' is found in the Eighth Canto of the Bhagavata Purana. In Buddhist mythology, Amrita is the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality.
RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bar Jokes
Thanks. now the Hotel Pratschli reference makes me wonder who you are. No sleep until I know. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of merudanda Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:35 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bar Jokes ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com , no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Lovely naughty anthrax how you can do that to our beloved host Ricky -just now when he is getting somehow so closer in breathing distance to his Divine Mother bridging the gap to the bat , so to speak, with the help of bat-girl gap breathing Connie Huebner (related to Peter the Great?!) (http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/358898) Shut down shift-happen-plugging-connection -to transcendence -batgap in disgrace? Can't allow this to happen- have to make a `Rashta Cavach' defense shield by chanting ,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPy0bo9nPLU In fond memories of your ear plugging-francy-to transcendence in the basement at the Hotel Praetschli in Arosa, Switzerland in 1974and me petal dropping higher above,- dear Rick , let me help me and you with some wild guess--so hold your breath: How about : You have to be pretty rowdy and intoxicated to be asked to leave a bar. Or you just have to be a bear. 1.Asking to leave mode: In Juneau, Alaska on Monday night a black bear walked into the downtown Alaskan Hotel Bar. The bartender's response? Ask it to leave of course. http://www.ktoo.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/24barbear-pkg.mp3 The hotel's bartender Ariel Svetlik-McCarthy saw the bear, appropriately responded with a minor freakout and yelled, No bear! Get out! No! You can't be in here! Unlike raucous frat boys, the bear politely responded by turning around and leaving (you can watch the video of it doing so) or see Judy's link http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/topics/358839 My link suggestion: Bar hopping bear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukZH4xuOJA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y12MUNRAK78 2, The intoxicated mode:A widespread viral bear -drug- joke goes like this: A bear walks into a bar and asks for a beer. The bartender replies, Sorry, we don't serve no beer to no bears in this bar. The bear asks again and is again told, We don't serve no beer to no bears in this bar. The bear then says, See that lady at the end of the bar. If you don't sell me a beer I'm going to eat her. The bartender again replies, We don't serve no beer to nobears in this bar. The bear eats the lady comes back to the other end of the bar and says, Now will you sell me a beer? The bartender responds, We don't serve no beer to no bears in this bar, especially no bears on drugs. Indignantly, the bear says, What do you mean on drugs? The bartender answers, Well, that was a Bar Bitch You Ate! In bat-gap-combination of 1 and 2 and the news on YouTube it could makes the bear-beer-bear-drugged-leave joke, i guess. Hope i saved your Batgap -plugging - connection-again-performance for awhile and it makes you laugh... BTW getting headache from reading?---take C. H. 's advise --NOW You may take a breath again---ddeep ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com , anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... wrote: This is your koan Rick. If you don't get it, you will have to shut down batgap in disgrace. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Rick Archer wrote: I still don’t get it. Please explain. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jr_esq@... Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:28 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bar Jokes That's a good one. It took me a while to get it. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com , punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: A bear walks into a bar. The bartender yells Get out - no bears! So, the bear leaves.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories
Nah, Walt's going to take a job at a nearby logging camp working along side a guy from Miami. ;-) I hope you haven't been too busy fussing over Neo and FFL to have missed the best new fall broadcast TV show I've seen thus far. And you should really be ashamed of yourself if you did since it is Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. However given Whedon's luck and ABC's ratings it's likely to get canceled after 4 episodes. Also Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing appears next week on DVD at the local Redboxs. BTW, I didn't go because I'm not that big a comic book fan and I get enough of off-the-wall geeks working in tech to go see Stan Lee at the comic book store in nearby Concord recently. On 09/27/2013 01:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Sorry to disappoint the Judester and her gloat-fest, but it appears that Neo has retreated yet again back into the baseboards from which it crawled, and left me free to darken her cyberdoorway. So I will. :-) As people wait for this Sunday's final episode of Breaking Bad, naturally the Web is rife with speculations about how it will end. We've already seen flashforwards in which Walt buys a big-ass machine gun, but BB has established a long history of showing us glimpses of its future that tantalize but reveal nothing. (Think the bear in the swimming pool.) Similarly, the BB creators publish the titles of each new episode on IMDB, but without any plot summary, and they've been equally tantalizing, but equally non-revealing. (Think Ozymandias or Say My Name.) The title for this last episode has BB conspiracy theorists going crazy. It's Felina. Other than an obvious anagram of finale, WTF could that possibly refer to? My favorite theory invokes Marty Robbins' classic song El Paso, which contained a woman named Felina. You decide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY The scene I'm counting on was even hinted at in the series. The moment I saw that machine gun, I thought of the scene from Brian De Palma's Scarface, in which Al Pacino comes out carrying an equally-big-ass machine gun and shouting, Say hello to my little friend! Sure enough, in the very next episode, Walt and Walt Jr. are watching TV in their house, and that very scene is playing in the background. One thing I know is that the future does not look rosy for Walt's former lover and her husband, the co-founders of the company Gray Matter who dissed Walt on TV last week. They were both wearing yellow. Think of the other characters who have worn yellow, and what happened to them -- Gus Fring, Brock, and Drew (the kid shot by Todd). I'm thinkin' that this color choice on the part of Gretchen and Elliot is as bad a move as appearing on Star Trek wearing a different color uniform from the other crewmen beamed down to the surface of a planet. The minute you see that, you know that soon Bones is going to be standing over his corpse saying, He's dead, Jim. Elliot and Gretchen are toast. Then there's a promo photo making the rounds that shows a determined-looking Walt and Jesse, spattered with blood, charging somewhere side by side. Since I've never seen a scene like that in the series so far, that one makes me think of the ending of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. I kinda like this one. But by far the most amusing is the theory that the series is not going to end at all, and instead is going to merge with and morph into another popular series. I can hear the tag line now: Winter is coming, and it's got a big-ass machine gun. :-) http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/672983061/11-Breaking-Bad-Season-font-b-TV-b-font-font-b-Show-b-font-2012-Hot.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lena Dunham to Participate in Women. Meditation. Stress
It's just interesting to see who is attracted to TM in celebrity circles these days. I have a bet the the TMO mucky-mucks don't know her series either. Which BTW, I like very much because it is a good look at the millenial generation culture. And Lena is a talented filmmaker. On 09/26/2013 08:01 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: no I have not ,I only get broadcast TV like the ABC, Fox , Bounce etc you could call me a liberal culturally though if thats where you are going, I'm not interested in Hinduism if it involves burning down theaters that dare to show a lesbian film like Shiv Sena did or anything like that. I liked David Lynch before I knew he was doing TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Srijau, have you ever seen Dunham's HBO series Girls? :-D On 09/26/2013 06:34 PM, srijau@... mailto:srijau@... wrote: http://www.shalomlife.com/culture/20559/lena-dunham-to-participate-in-transcendental-meditation-panel/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Somehow, I'm not seeing how it would be possible for a soul to intentionally intend to be aborted, since the preservation of one's own life is so ingrained in our very being, an evolutionary force so to speak. What a slippery slope to start down, fetal suicide. Kind of goes against anything the Buddha taught about all sentient beings. It's not just reasonable to have high intentions, it's essential. Once you start lowering the standard for life, it will be easier to lower it again and again and again. Do we want to evolve in the direction of life or in the direction of death? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Then add in ancestral karma and one can see why karma is unfathomable. Because it's just about infinite! Anyway, the soul might choose such a situation to burn off some similar karma from a previous life. Seems reasonable to have high intentions, do our best and leave the rest up to the lords of karma. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: (snip) Re authfriend's I'm not sure this makes a lot of sense. Assuming the soul chooses the circumstances of its next life, why would it pick a mother who is going to abort? : because the soul chose parents with the right genes and circumstances for its future progress but it couldn't know in advance that the mother would later freely choose to abort. OooK... As to karma having to be matched for both mother and fetus: I'd hate to have to do the balancing act required for that one to work out. Unfathomable is the course of action [i.e., karma]. (Krishna to Arjuna in the Gita)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kindle?
Let's face it, Willy, you spend all your time reading FFL. :-D Of course you can read FFL on the Kindle too! Do you have an Nvidia Shield yet? I was given one a week ago to develop some products for. Your grandkids would probably like it. The nearby BN is closing. There is a Half Price Books in Concord. I also have a rare books store up the street. However he doesn't seem to collect rare occult books. These town has more collectibles stores than you can shake a stick at. We figure that most of these people inherited the business and building from their parents and only need enough sales to feed themselves and pay the property taxes. On 09/27/2013 07:42 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There are mobile devices all over the house - Rita's got a Kindle, Rose got an iPad. So, you can read ebooks on a tablet or on an ereader like Amazon Kindle, Apple iPad, Barnes Noble Nook, or on a Pandigital. And, you can view ebooks games, music, video, and magazines from iTunes, Amazon and Barnes Noble. The selection is vast and more are added every day. Sure you can read an ebook on a laptop computer, but who wants to lug one of those bricks to bed or out back to the outhouse? Go figure. These days, most of the tablets are much faster than a year ago. Now they've got a 2.2GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800, upgraded from the TI OMAP processors in older models. RAM got a boost as well, to 2 GB from 1 for better graphics. We used to read books from the library all the time - did you know that the public library can get any book you want through the inter-library system? We used to buy a lot of books too - we've got Half-Price Books stores all over the place around here. At one time we had hundreds of books stashed across three cities! One guy I know who is a collector and seller on eBay has three garages full of books and stuff! Has anyone ever considered how much their stuff weighs? LoL! How cool would it be to have all your stuff in digital form, so you could access it with a few key strokes, instead of searching for days for something to read? So, we've set up a separate desktop computer with a flat bed scanner in the home office to work with Adobe and OCR software. This might interest anyone that lives in a rural area or those who don't have easy access to a library or a local book store. ...the redesigned Kindle Fire HDX. The update, which brings the expected refreshed specs to the tablets, also adds a surprising new feature to the mix: human customer support over a live video chat. 'What You Need to Know About Amazon's New Kindle Fire HDX' Popular Mechanics: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/ http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/tech-news/what-you-need-to-know-about-amazons-new-kindle-fire-hdx-15966241?click=pm_latest 'Reviews and Buying Advice' PC World: http://www.pcworld.com/category/e-readers/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories
I have enjoyed most of the Marvel Comic movies, but Agents of Shield was rather stale From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories Nah, Walt's going to take a job at a nearby logging camp working along side a guy from Miami. ;-) I hope you haven't been too busy fussing over Neo and FFL to have missed the best new fall broadcast TV show I've seen thus far. And you should really be ashamed of yourself if you did since it is Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. However given Whedon's luck and ABC's ratings it's likely to get canceled after 4 episodes. Also Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing appears next week on DVD at the local Redboxs. BTW, I didn't go because I'm not that big a comic book fan and I get enough of off-the-wall geeks working in tech to go see Stan Lee at the comic book store in nearby Concord recently. On 09/27/2013 01:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Sorry to disappoint the Judester and her gloat-fest, but it appears that Neo has retreated yet again back into the baseboards from which it crawled, and left me free to darken her cyberdoorway. So I will. :-) As people wait for this Sunday's final episode of Breaking Bad, naturally the Web is rife with speculations about how it will end. We've already seen flashforwards in which Walt buys a big-ass machine gun, but BB has established a long history of showing us glimpses of its future that tantalize but reveal nothing. (Think the bear in the swimming pool.) Similarly, the BB creators publish the titles of each new episode on IMDB, but without any plot summary, and they've been equally tantalizing, but equally non-revealing. (Think Ozymandias or Say My Name.) The title for this last episode has BB conspiracy theorists going crazy. It's Felina. Other than an obvious anagram of finale, WTF could that possibly refer to? My favorite theory invokes Marty Robbins' classic song El Paso, which contained a woman named Felina. You decide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY The scene I'm counting on was even hinted at in the series. The moment I saw that machine gun, I thought of the scene from Brian De Palma's Scarface, in which Al Pacino comes out carrying an equally-big-ass machine gun and shouting, Say hello to my little friend! Sure enough, in the very next episode, Walt and Walt Jr. are watching TV in their house, and that very scene is playing in the background. One thing I know is that the future does not look rosy for Walt's former lover and her husband, the co-founders of the company Gray Matter who dissed Walt on TV last week. They were both wearing yellow. Think of the other characters who have worn yellow, and what happened to them -- Gus Fring, Brock, and Drew (the kid shot by Todd). I'm thinkin' that this color choice on the part of Gretchen and Elliot is as bad a move as appearing on Star Trek wearing a different color uniform from the other crewmen beamed down to the surface of a planet. The minute you see that, you know that soon Bones is going to be standing over his corpse saying, He's dead, Jim. Elliot and Gretchen are toast. Then there's a promo photo making the rounds that shows a determined-looking Walt and Jesse, spattered with blood, charging somewhere side by side. Since I've never seen a scene like that in the series so far, that one makes me think of the ending of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. I kinda like this one. But by far the most amusing is the theory that the series is not going to end at all, and instead is going to merge with and morph into another popular series. I can hear the tag line now: Winter is coming, and it's got a big-ass machine gun. :-) http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/672983061/11-Breaking-Bad-Season-font-b-TV-b-font-font-b-Show-b-font-2012-Hot.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kindle?
If I were to move to Sonoma to open an occult book store, I would call it The Third Eye. LoL! On 9/27/2013 10:53 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Let's face it, Willy, you spend all your time reading FFL. :-D Of course you can read FFL on the Kindle too! Do you have an Nvidia Shield yet? I was given one a week ago to develop some products for. Your grandkids would probably like it. The nearby BN is closing. There is a Half Price Books in Concord. I also have a rare books store up the street. However he doesn't seem to collect rare occult books. These town has more collectibles stores than you can shake a stick at. We figure that most of these people inherited the business and building from their parents and only need enough sales to feed themselves and pay the property taxes. On 09/27/2013 07:42 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There are mobile devices all over the house - Rita's got a Kindle, Rose got an iPad. So, you can read ebooks on a tablet or on an ereader like Amazon Kindle, Apple iPad, Barnes Noble Nook, or on a Pandigital. And, you can view ebooks games, music, video, and magazines from iTunes, Amazon and Barnes Noble. The selection is vast and more are added every day. Sure you can read an ebook on a laptop computer, but who wants to lug one of those bricks to bed or out back to the outhouse? Go figure. These days, most of the tablets are much faster than a year ago. Now they've got a 2.2GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800, upgraded from the TI OMAP processors in older models. RAM got a boost as well, to 2 GB from 1 for better graphics. We used to read books from the library all the time - did you know that the public library can get any book you want through the inter-library system? We used to buy a lot of books too - we've got Half-Price Books stores all over the place around here. At one time we had hundreds of books stashed across three cities! One guy I know who is a collector and seller on eBay has three garages full of books and stuff! Has anyone ever considered how much their stuff weighs? LoL! How cool would it be to have all your stuff in digital form, so you could access it with a few key strokes, instead of searching for days for something to read? So, we've set up a separate desktop computer with a flat bed scanner in the home office to work with Adobe and OCR software. This might interest anyone that lives in a rural area or those who don't have easy access to a library or a local book store. ...the redesigned Kindle Fire HDX. The update, which brings the expected refreshed specs to the tablets, also adds a surprising new feature to the mix: human customer support over a live video chat. 'What You Need to Know About Amazon's New Kindle Fire HDX' Popular Mechanics: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/ http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/tech-news/what-you-need-to-know-about-amazons-new-kindle-fire-hdx-15966241?click=pm_latest 'Reviews and Buying Advice' PC World: http://www.pcworld.com/category/e-readers/
[FairfieldLife] Seymour Hersh on the American Press
Hersh is not a fan of Obama and says that Osama Bin Laden raid was bullshit (I've said that myself). http://www.theguardian.com/media/media-blog/2013/sep/27/seymour-hersh-obama-nsa-american-media Time for the Greatest American Revolution?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories
My prediction: it turns out that Walt dies and he has a million dollar life insurance policy made out to Skyler and RJ. That way, both Skyler and RJ get to go to college - she becomes an accountant and he becomes a chemical engineer. LoL! Then, Skyler's sister Marie marries Jesse Pinkman and they have a child and move to Deadwood, SD., or some place like that. Better call Saul will live on in another TV series as a bail bondsman based in Hollywood or in Harlem. On 9/27/2013 3:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories Sorry to disappoint the Judester and her gloat-fest, but it appears that Neo has retreated yet again back into the baseboards from which it crawled, and left me free to darken her cyberdoorway. So I will. :-) As people wait for this Sunday's final episode of Breaking Bad, naturally the Web is rife with speculations about how it will end. We've already seen flashforwards in which Walt buys a big-ass machine gun, but BB has established a long history of showing us glimpses of its future that tantalize but reveal nothing. (Think the bear in the swimming pool.) Similarly, the BB creators publish the titles of each new episode on IMDB, but without any plot summary, and they've been equally tantalizing, but equally non-revealing. (Think Ozymandias or Say My Name.) The title for this last episode has BB conspiracy theorists going crazy. It's Felina. Other than an obvious anagram of finale, WTF could that possibly refer to? My favorite theory invokes Marty Robbins' classic song El Paso, which contained a woman named Felina. You decide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY The scene I'm counting on was even hinted at in the series. The moment I saw that machine gun, I thought of the scene from Brian De Palma's Scarface, in which Al Pacino comes out carrying an equally-big-ass machine gun and shouting, Say hello to my little friend! Sure enough, in the very next episode, Walt and Walt Jr. are watching TV in their house, and that very scene is playing in the background. One thing I know is that the future does not look rosy for Walt's former lover and her husband, the co-founders of the company Gray Matter who dissed Walt on TV last week. They were both wearing yellow. Think of the other characters who have worn yellow, and what happened to them -- Gus Fring, Brock, and Drew (the kid shot by Todd). I'm thinkin' that this color choice on the part of Gretchen and Elliot is as bad a move as appearing on Star Trek wearing a different color uniform from the other crewmen beamed down to the surface of a planet. The minute you see that, you know that soon Bones is going to be standing over his corpse saying, He's dead, Jim. Elliot and Gretchen are toast. Then there's a promo photo making the rounds that shows a determined-looking Walt and Jesse, spattered with blood, charging somewhere side by side. Since I've never seen a scene like that in the series so far, that one makes me think of the ending of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. I kinda like this one. But by far the most amusing is the theory that the series is not going to end at all, and instead is going to merge with and morph into another popular series. I can hear the tag line now: Winter is coming, and it's got a big-ass machine gun. :-) http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/672983061/11-Breaking-Bad-Season-font-b-TV-b-font-font-b-Show-b-font-2012-Hot.jpg
Re: [FairfieldLife] Kindle?
The Tie Dye might be a more successful name. Get ready for some culture shock if you plan to move to Sonoma. On 09/27/2013 09:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: If I were to move to Sonoma to open an occult book store, I would call it The Third Eye. LoL! On 9/27/2013 10:53 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Let's face it, Willy, you spend all your time reading FFL. :-D Of course you can read FFL on the Kindle too! Do you have an Nvidia Shield yet? I was given one a week ago to develop some products for. Your grandkids would probably like it. The nearby BN is closing. There is a Half Price Books in Concord. I also have a rare books store up the street. However he doesn't seem to collect rare occult books. These town has more collectibles stores than you can shake a stick at. We figure that most of these people inherited the business and building from their parents and only need enough sales to feed themselves and pay the property taxes. On 09/27/2013 07:42 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: There are mobile devices all over the house - Rita's got a Kindle, Rose got an iPad. So, you can read ebooks on a tablet or on an ereader like Amazon Kindle, Apple iPad, Barnes Noble Nook, or on a Pandigital. And, you can view ebooks games, music, video, and magazines from iTunes, Amazon and Barnes Noble. The selection is vast and more are added every day. Sure you can read an ebook on a laptop computer, but who wants to lug one of those bricks to bed or out back to the outhouse? Go figure. These days, most of the tablets are much faster than a year ago. Now they've got a 2.2GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800, upgraded from the TI OMAP processors in older models. RAM got a boost as well, to 2 GB from 1 for better graphics. We used to read books from the library all the time - did you know that the public library can get any book you want through the inter-library system? We used to buy a lot of books too - we've got Half-Price Books stores all over the place around here. At one time we had hundreds of books stashed across three cities! One guy I know who is a collector and seller on eBay has three garages full of books and stuff! Has anyone ever considered how much their stuff weighs? LoL! How cool would it be to have all your stuff in digital form, so you could access it with a few key strokes, instead of searching for days for something to read? So, we've set up a separate desktop computer with a flat bed scanner in the home office to work with Adobe and OCR software. This might interest anyone that lives in a rural area or those who don't have easy access to a library or a local book store. ...the redesigned Kindle Fire HDX. The update, which brings the expected refreshed specs to the tablets, also adds a surprising new feature to the mix: human customer support over a live video chat. 'What You Need to Know About Amazon's New Kindle Fire HDX' Popular Mechanics: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/ http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/tech-news/what-you-need-to-know-about-amazons-new-kindle-fire-hdx-15966241?click=pm_latest 'Reviews and Buying Advice' PC World: http://www.pcworld.com/category/e-readers/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Mike, from what I've picked up over the years, it is the soul that propels us forward to eternal union with God. And that journey might include making seemingly horrendous choices. What I've heard is that the soul knows what is needed to burn off all the karma so that union with God is possible. We evolve in the direction of that union and evolution may include many births and deaths. But again, on the day to day human level, we have the highest intentions, we do our best and we leave the rest to life's unfolding mystery. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Somehow, I'm not seeing how it would be possible for a soul to intentionally intend to be aborted, since the preservation of one's own life is so ingrained in our very being, an evolutionary force so to speak. What a slippery slope to start down, fetal suicide. Kind of goes against anything the Buddha taught about all sentient beings. It's not just reasonable to have high intentions, it's essential. Once you start lowering the standard for life, it will be easier to lower it again and again and again. Do we want to evolve in the direction of life or in the direction of death? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Then add in ancestral karma and one can see why karma is unfathomable. Because it's just about infinite! Anyway, the soul might choose such a situation to burn off some similar karma from a previous life. Seems reasonable to have high intentions, do our best and leave the rest up to the lords of karma. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: (snip) Re authfriend's I'm not sure this makes a lot of sense. Assuming the soul chooses the circumstances of its next life, why would it pick a mother who is going to abort? : because the soul chose parents with the right genes and circumstances for its future progress but it couldn't know in advance that the mother would later freely choose to abort. OooK... As to karma having to be matched for both mother and fetus: I'd hate to have to do the balancing act required for that one to work out. Unfathomable is the course of action [i.e., karma]. (Krishna to Arjuna in the Gita)
[FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lena Dunham to Participate in Women. Meditation. Stress
Last night John Raatz gave a lecture on Creating Transformational Media to benefit the refurbished Orpheum Theater in FF. I remember years ago hearing about John who taught TM to many Hollywood stars. Prior to this trip, John accompanied Jim Carrey during his visit to FF. According to a local paper, John was also quite instrumental in getting What the Bleep Do We Know onto neighborhood screens. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Lena Dunham to Participate in Women. Meditation. Stress It's just interesting to see who is attracted to TM in celebrity circles these days. I have a bet the the TMO mucky-mucks don't know her series either. Which BTW, I like very much because it is a good look at the millenial generation culture. And Lena is a talented filmmaker. On 09/26/2013 08:01 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: no I have not ,I only get broadcast TV like the ABC, Fox , Bounce etc you could call me a liberal culturally though if thats where you are going, I'm not interested in Hinduism if it involves burning down theaters that dare to show a lesbian film like Shiv Sena did or anything like that. I liked David Lynch before I knew he was doing TM. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Srijau, have you ever seen Dunham's HBO series Girls? :-D On 09/26/2013 06:34 PM, srijau@... wrote: http://www.shalomlife.com/culture/20559/lena-dunham-to-participate-in-transcendental-meditation-panel/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy
The alchemical tradition in India begins with the Nath Siddhas - they wanted to become 'siddhas', that is, enlightened yogins who had realized the ultimate while yet living - jivan-mukti. Yoga is alchemical in the sense that brain chemicals can be altered by means of mantra and hatha yoga. According to MMY soma is produced in the human gut during meditation. Shaman rituals and customs are widespread in India. Closely associated with the legend of the Northern Shaman is the classical form of ecstatic practice. The word shaman means 'to know' in the Tunga language, associated with the Fly Agaric or Amanita muscaria, the 'magic mushroom of immortality'. The use of Amanita was practiced by groups all across the northern Eurasia, especially eastern Siberia before the migration to South Asia. According to what I've read, there is some evidence that those who used prehistoric drinking vessels as 'beakers' took Fly Agaric in a ritual, cultic context. There is an old nursery rhyme: He has of purple pure A mantle around him. Say, who may the manikin be Who stands there on one leg? On 9/27/2013 10:26 AM, Share Long wrote: ah ha! the plot thickens... *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 10:21 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy In new-age shops I've noticed a couple of books by this chap - I've not read them but he's into TM! ROBERT E. COX holds a master’s degree in Vedic Studies from the Institute of Creative Intelligence in Switzerland. For nine years he lived as a reclusive monk, during which time he received intuitive cognitions regarding the structure and dynamics of consciousness that inspired his research. Might be worth a peek? Google the titles : - The Elixir of Immortality: A Modern-Day Alchemist's Discovery of the Philosopher's Stone and Creating the Soul Body: The Sacred Science of Immortality ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: From a review by Nicholas Popper of Lawrence M. Principe's Secrets of Alchemy: Alchemy has not always been associated with esoteric mystics muttering necromantic incantations in the quest for spiritual purification. For much of its history, Principe reveals, alchemy was recognized as a sophisticated pursuit entailing the vigorous exertion of mind and hand, a convergence of laboratory experimentation and theoretical speculation that yielded spectacular control of chemical processes. To protect their hard-earned knowledge, alchemists wrote under pseudonyms and encrypted discoveries in mystical-sounding codenames (Decknamen). While this contributed to alchemy’s association with mysticism, Principe argues persuasively that its traditional essence lay in the expert combining of substances, and that no account of it can rightfully ignore its experimental and material foundations ...Such flawed [mystical] interpretations stem from projecting post-Enlightenment meanings of alchemy onto the earlier period and assuming that earlier alchemists’ spiritual declarations wholly governed their coded recipesThese reflected a context in which all knowledge was described as a divine gift Read more: http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1317931.ece
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
Seraphita, I have not had any direct experience of abortion either in my own life or that of a family member. Nonetheless, I'm sure it must be an awful choice for any woman, maybe even in horrendous situations. And it has got to be one the *hottest* if not the hottest political issue around as well as being an ethical and moral and religious minefield. I'd recommend ignoring any esoteric info that isn't helpful and or comforting. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn The splendid rant by Aleister Crowley I posted originally is ambiguous: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder . . . : is he against all abortion - which happens to be a serious criminal offence at the time? Or is it just criminal abortion he's against? That is, he would be happy with legal clinics providing modern, hygienic standards as opposed to back-street walk-ups? Anyway, I only included the quote as a relish. The reincarnation-karma aspect is more intriguing. Re Share's I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months : that idea doesn't fly. Some people can recall their experiences in the womb so the soul has to be there at the stage when sense organs are developed enough. The simplest and most obvious implication is that it gets there at the moment of conception. Isn't the idea of a later arrival just too suspiciously self-serving? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita, I remember that the Natural Law Party many years ago was pro choice, recognizing that abortion is a tragedy and also that a woman has a right to choose. Their platform said it in a more expanded and elegant way but that was the gist of it. During my decades around spiritual groups, I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months and that stillbirths, for example, occur when the soul changes its mind about incarnating and or experiencing that particular life path. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Beast and the unborn As the magus Aleister Crowley was a sexual degenerate and hoovered up multiple partners during his career I'd rather lazily assumed that he would be in favour of abortion. I was surprised to come across this quote of his: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder. Apart from anything else, it nearly always ruins the health of the woman, when it fails to kill her. The vigour of my views on this point strengthens my general attitude on the question of sexual freedom. I believe that very few women, left to themselves, would be so vile as to commit this sin against the Holy Ghost; to thwart the deepest instincts of nature at the risk of health and Life, to say nothing of imprisonment. Yet criminal abortion is one of the commonest of crimes and one most generally condoned by what I must paradoxically call secret public opinion. And the reason is that our social system makes it shameful and punishable by poverty for a woman to do what evolution has spent ages in constructing her to do, save under conditions with which the vast majority of women cannot possibly comply. The remedy lies entirely with public opinion. Let motherhood be recognized as honourable in itself, and even the pressure of poverty would not prevent any but a few degenerate women, with perverse appetites for pleasure, from fulfilling their function. In the case of such it would indeed be better that they and their children perish. So - not pulling any punches there! A lot of what Aleister objects to in the passage above could probably be answered by having the type of child-care provision we have in European-style welfare states. However, he raises a more interesting objection (though I couldn't immediately spot a quote via Google just now) when he claimed that belief in reincarnation implies a belief that abortion must be a crime. Why? Because, according to the doctrine a soul has chosen to incarnate in a particular foetus and to deny that life a chance to grow you have thwarted the true will of that soul. But this view is, I see, a commonplace one for those who hold to reincarnation. The following passage is lifted from the BBC website. The doctrine of reincarnation, which sees life as a repeating cycle of birth, death and rebirth, is basic to Hindu thinking. The doctrine of reincarnation can be used to make a strong case against abortion: If a foetus is aborted, the soul within it suffers a major karmic setback. It is deprived of the opportunities its potential human existence would have given it to earn good karma, and is returned
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[FairfieldLife] Fwd: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off
Forwarded from: Ideal Community Group developm...@mum.edu Subject: The New Down Town Flying Hall Takes Off Date: September 27, 2013 11:45:55 AM CDT To: Dick, dickm...@lisco.com Hi Dick, The New Downtown Flying Hall has turned out so much better than we had hoped. Here's some feedback from people who tried it out: The new Orpheum flying hall really is a great boon for the community. I find it to be very simple and silently comfortable there. You can slip in and slip out with great ease, and no complications. I urge more people to check it out and give it a try. I think you will be very happy. JS The Orpheum flying hall has proven to be a real asset for those of us who live in town. Very comfy, and s convenient. Not that the Dome is a long trip, but it's so simple to drive 2 minutes and then park 50 feet from the door. SC Thanks again for providing the Universe with this Heavenly domain. It's gotten me back meditating with the group and also doing the full complement, which is having beneficial effects for me. CB It's silent, comfortable, clean, and really convenient on many days for my schedule. FR Parking is easy, the feeling is relaxed and the silence is deep. Come to the small door on the north side of the Orpheum Cinema (Used to be the Co-ed Cinema). If you haven't been there yet check out the photos below: The Ideal Community Group. Click photos for larger view.
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XA, there are many books on this topic. As for me, I was raised Catholic so I come from that mindset. I also appreciate what the FFL atheists say. And though I have never seen an AK-47 in person, I have sensed consciousness even in a plastic bag! Go figure! From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share Long wrote: Mike, from what I've picked up over the years, it is the soul that propels us forward to eternal union with God. And that journey might include making seemingly horrendous choices. What I've heard is that the soul knows what is needed to burn off all the karma so that union with God is possible. We evolve in the direction of that union and evolution may include many births and deaths. But again, on the day to day human level, we have the highest intentions, we do our best and we leave the rest to life's unfolding mystery. How does a soul enter a human body? How would it know how to do that? How does it select a body, or how is the body selected for it? What are the mechanics of entry? How does a soul interact with a body (for if it was not there in the first place, what kind of interface does a soul require to make the body function)? I think this should be an essay. And a final question: Does an AK-47 have a soul, and should it be granted religious status?
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
First off, nobody knows for sure but I go with the Hindu concept that the soul enters the body on the first breathe at birth. That's when the prana enters the body with the shakti which is the power that drives the body and consciousness. Anything else is just an offshoot of the mother and genetic memory. Problem with the anti-abortion people in this country is they are so stupid they think that pro choice is pro abortion. It isn't nor has it ever been. Once you are in unity consciousness you will realize that we are all just one being and duality was just an illusion. It's just the Self enjoying ItSelf in many ways we can't even beging to comprehend. On 09/27/2013 10:02 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: The splendid rant by Aleister Crowley I posted originally is ambiguous: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder . . . : is he against all abortion - which happens to be a serious criminal offence at the time? Or is it just criminal abortion he's against? That is, he would be happy with legal clinics providing modern, hygienic standards as opposed to back-street walk-ups? Anyway, I only included the quote as a relish. The reincarnation-karma aspect is more intriguing. Re Share's I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months : that idea doesn't fly. Some people can recall their experiences in the womb so the soul has to be there at the stage when sense organs are developed enough. The simplest and most obvious implication is that it gets there at the moment of conception. Isn't the idea of a later arrival just too suspiciously self-serving? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita, I remember that the Natural Law Party many years ago was pro choice, recognizing that abortion is a tragedy and also that a woman has a right to choose. Their platform said it in a more expanded and elegant way but that was the gist of it. During my decades around spiritual groups, I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months and that stillbirths, for example, occur when the soul changes its mind about incarnating and or experiencing that particular life path. *From:* s3raphita@... s3raphita@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 9:00 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Beast and the unborn As the magus Aleister Crowley was a sexual degenerate and hoovered up multiple partners during his career I'd rather lazily assumed that he would be in favour of abortion. I was surprised to come across this quote of his: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder. Apart from anything else, it nearly always ruins the health of the woman, when it fails to kill her. The vigour of my views on this point strengthens my general attitude on the question of sexual freedom. I believe that very few women, left to themselves, would be so vile as to commit this sin against the Holy Ghost; to thwart the deepest instincts of nature at the risk of health and Life, to say nothing of imprisonment. Yet criminal abortion is one of the commonest of crimes and one most generally condoned by what I must paradoxically call secret public opinion. And the reason is that our social system makes it shameful and punishable by poverty for a woman to do what evolution has spent ages in constructing her to do, save under conditions with which the vast majority of women cannot possibly comply. The remedy lies entirely with public opinion. Let motherhood be recognized as honourable in itself, and even the pressure of poverty would not prevent any but a few degenerate women, with perverse appetites for pleasure, from fulfilling their function. In the case of such it would indeed be better that they and their children perish. So - not pulling any punches there! A lot of what Aleister objects to in the passage above could probably be answered by having the type of child-care provision we have in European-style welfare states. However, he raises a more interesting objection (though I couldn't immediately spot a quote via Google just now) when he claimed that belief in reincarnation implies a belief that abortion must be a crime. Why? Because, according to the doctrine a soul has chosen to incarnate in a particular foetus and to deny that life a chance to grow you have thwarted the true will of that soul. But this view is, I see, a commonplace one for those who hold to reincarnation. The following passage is lifted from the BBC website. The doctrine of reincarnation, which sees life as a repeating cycle of birth, death and rebirth, is basic to Hindu thinking. The doctrine of reincarnation can be used to make a strong case against abortion: If a foetus is aborted, the soul within it suffers a major karmic setback. It is
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Judy, in the 3rd paragraph Popper mentions not only Galenic humoural theory but also the promise of potent medicines. Later both plants and metals are mentioned as being thrown into the fire. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:04 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy Share rattled on: Judy, as I said, there were hints, brief mentions of herbs. So informative. Where were these hints and mentions? I was suggesting that option given that neither chemistry nor enlightenment seemed to cover the whole endeavor, especially in contemporary times. Don't know about contemporary times. We were talking, after all, about the alchemy of the past, which seems to be quite well covered by chemistry and enlightenment, at least according to scholarly research. Modern neo-alchemists might well want to hint that old-timey alchemy involved herbs, whether it did or not, since there's considerable commercial potential in selling expensive herbal potions to New Age types (especially aging baby boomers). From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secrets of Alchemy You might just want to read the entire exchange, Share, including the quote I posted initially from the review of the new book about alchemy, as well as my responses to Seraphita. (You could even read the entire review at the link I posted.) Then you'll know what the most up-to-date scholarly research says about alchemy, instead of having to resort to outdated speculations. I've left everything in below so you can check it out. Share wrote: Seraphita, I can't help but think about Big Pharma as I read these posts about alchemy. There are hints that it had to do with herbs and health. Certainly longevity, maybe even immortality? I would think that he Church would be against immortality obtained in such an earthly way! As for nowadays I don't think Big Pharma would want anyone finding out about health and longevity within the realm of herbs and herbal combinations.
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Destiny of Souls, all about the bardo, life between lives, etc. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Share explained: XA, there are many books on this topic. And I'm sure they answer all Xeno's questions definitively, right, Share? But we'll have to find the books ourselves if we want to know those answers, because Share isn't going to tell us the titles or share anything from them. As for me, I was raised Catholic so I come from that mindset. I also appreciate what the FFL atheists say. Which FFL atheists would those be, Share? And though I have never seen an AK-47 in person, I have sensed consciousness even in a plastic bag! Go figure! No need. It figures. From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share Long wrote: Mike, from what I've picked up over the years, it is the soul that propels us forward to eternal union with God. And that journey might include making seemingly horrendous choices. What I've heard is that the soul knows what is needed to burn off all the karma so that union with God is possible. We evolve in the direction of that union and evolution may include many births and deaths. But again, on the day to day human level, we have the highest intentions, we do our best and we leave the rest to life's unfolding mystery. How does a soul enter a human body? How would it know how to do that? How does it select a body, or how is the body selected for it? What are the mechanics of entry? How does a soul interact with a body (for if it was not there in the first place, what kind of interface does a soul require to make the body function)? I think this should be an essay. And a final question: Does an AK-47 have a soul, and should it be granted religious status?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn
noozguru, this makes a lot of sense about the first breath at birth. The reason people think pro choice equals pro abortion IMO is that the Republicans, maybe for decades, have been masters of spin. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn First off, nobody knows for sure but I go with the Hindu concept that the soul enters the body on the first breathe at birth. That's when the prana enters the body with the shakti which is the power that drives the body and consciousness. Anything else is just an offshoot of the mother and genetic memory. Problem with the anti-abortion people in this country is they are so stupid they think that pro choice is pro abortion. It isn't nor has it ever been. Once you are in unity consciousness you will realize that we are all just one being and duality was just an illusion. It's just the Self enjoying ItSelf in many ways we can't even beging to comprehend. On 09/27/2013 10:02 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: The splendid rant by Aleister Crowley I posted originally is ambiguous: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder . . . : is he against all abortion - which happens to be a serious criminal offence at the time? Or is it just criminal abortion he's against? That is, he would be happy with legal clinics providing modern, hygienic standards as opposed to back-street walk-ups? Anyway, I only included the quote as a relish. The reincarnation-karma aspect is more intriguing. Re Share's I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months : that idea doesn't fly. Some people can recall their experiences in the womb so the soul has to be there at the stage when sense organs are developed enough. The simplest and most obvious implication is that it gets there at the moment of conception. Isn't the idea of a later arrival just too suspiciously self-serving? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita, I remember that the Natural Law Party many years ago was pro choice, recognizing that abortion is a tragedy and also that a woman has a right to choose. Their platform said it in a more expanded and elegant way but that was the gist of it. During my decades around spiritual groups, I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months and that stillbirths, for example, occur when the soul changes its mind about incarnating and or experiencing that particular life path. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Beast and the unborn As the magus Aleister Crowley was a sexual degenerate and hoovered up multiple partners during his career I'd rather lazily assumed that he would be in favour of abortion. I was surprised to come across this quote of his: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder. Apart from anything else, it nearly always ruins the health of the woman, when it fails to kill her. The vigour of my views on this point strengthens my general attitude on the question of sexual freedom. I believe that very few women, left to themselves, would be so vile as to commit this sin against the Holy Ghost; to thwart the deepest instincts of nature at the risk of health and Life, to say nothing of imprisonment. Yet criminal abortion is one of the commonest of crimes and one most generally condoned by what I must paradoxically call secret public opinion. And the reason is that our social system makes it shameful and punishable by poverty for a woman to do what evolution has spent ages in constructing her to do, save under conditions with which the vast majority of women cannot possibly comply. The remedy lies entirely with public opinion. Let motherhood be recognized as honourable in itself, and even the pressure of poverty would not prevent any but a few degenerate women, with perverse appetites for pleasure, from fulfilling their function. In the case of such it would indeed be better that they and their children perish. So - not pulling any punches there! A lot of what Aleister objects to in the passage above could probably be answered by having the type of child-care provision we have in European-style welfare states. However, he raises a more interesting objection (though I couldn't immediately spot a quote via Google just now) when he claimed that belief in reincarnation implies a belief that abortion must be a crime. Why? Because, according to the doctrine a soul has chosen to incarnate in a particular foetus and to deny that life a chance to grow you have thwarted the true will of that soul. But this view is, I see, a
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories
Highest rated drama debut in 4 years with 12 million viewers. Funny thing is Whedon seems to be holding the cards close because IMDB so far only lists 3 episodes and elsewhere I see 4. On 09/27/2013 09:09 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I have enjoyed most of the Marvel Comic movies, but Agents of Shield was rather stale *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 11:43 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories Nah, Walt's going to take a job at a nearby logging camp working along side a guy from Miami. ;-) I hope you haven't been too busy fussing over Neo and FFL to have missed the best new fall broadcast TV show I've seen thus far. And you should really be ashamed of yourself if you did since it is Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. However given Whedon's luck and ABC's ratings it's likely to get canceled after 4 episodes. Also Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing appears next week on DVD at the local Redboxs. BTW, I didn't go because I'm not that big a comic book fan and I get enough of off-the-wall geeks working in tech to go see Stan Lee at the comic book store in nearby Concord recently. On 09/27/2013 01:54 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Sorry to disappoint the Judester and her gloat-fest, but it appears that Neo has retreated yet again back into the baseboards from which it crawled, and left me free to darken her cyberdoorway. So I will. :-) As people wait for this Sunday's final episode of Breaking Bad, naturally the Web is rife with speculations about how it will end. We've already seen flashforwards in which Walt buys a big-ass machine gun, but BB has established a long history of showing us glimpses of its future that tantalize but reveal nothing. (Think the bear in the swimming pool.) Similarly, the BB creators publish the titles of each new episode on IMDB, but without any plot summary, and they've been equally tantalizing, but equally non-revealing. (Think Ozymandias or Say My Name.) The title for this last episode has BB conspiracy theorists going crazy. It's Felina. Other than an obvious anagram of finale, WTF could that possibly refer to? My favorite theory invokes Marty Robbins' classic song El Paso, which contained a woman named Felina. You decide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY The scene I'm counting on was even hinted at in the series. The moment I saw that machine gun, I thought of the scene from Brian De Palma's Scarface, in which Al Pacino comes out carrying an equally-big-ass machine gun and shouting, Say hello to my little friend! Sure enough, in the very next episode, Walt and Walt Jr. are watching TV in their house, and that very scene is playing in the background. One thing I know is that the future does not look rosy for Walt's former lover and her husband, the co-founders of the company Gray Matter who dissed Walt on TV last week. They were both wearing yellow. Think of the other characters who have worn yellow, and what happened to them -- Gus Fring, Brock, and Drew (the kid shot by Todd). I'm thinkin' that this color choice on the part of Gretchen and Elliot is as bad a move as appearing on Star Trek wearing a different color uniform from the other crewmen beamed down to the surface of a planet. The minute you see that, you know that soon Bones is going to be standing over his corpse saying, He's dead, Jim. Elliot and Gretchen are toast. Then there's a promo photo making the rounds that shows a determined-looking Walt and Jesse, spattered with blood, charging somewhere side by side. Since I've never seen a scene like that in the series so far, that one makes me think of the ending of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. I kinda like this one. But by far the most amusing is the theory that the series is not going to end at all, and instead is going to merge with and morph into another popular series. I can hear the tag line now: Winter is coming, and it's got a big-ass machine gun. :-) http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/672983061/11-Breaking-Bad-Season-font-b-TV-b-font-font-b-Show-b-font-2012-Hot.jpg
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A soul only has one *life* but many bodies to experience that life in. Having the body allows the soul to progress along it's course of evolution. Take away a soul's body and you take away it's chance to advance further at that particular time. BTW , nothing wrong with evolving in wisdom(making right choices) either. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:59 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Mike objected: Somehow, I'm not seeing how it would be possible for a soul to intentionally intend to be aborted, since the preservation of one's own life is so ingrained in our very being, an evolutionary force so to speak. Well, when we're embodied it is. But in between lives, presumably the soul knows that physical death doesn't mean the end of one's existence. What a slippery slope to start down, fetal suicide. Kind of goes against anything the Buddha taught about all sentient beings. It's not just reasonable to have high intentions, it's essential. Once you start lowering the standard for life, it will be easier to lower it again and again and again. Do we want to evolve in the direction of life or in the direction of death? We might want to evolve in the direction of effective, easily available birth control, thorough sex education, and eradication of poverty so that unwanted pregnancies are reduced to a minimum. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Then add in ancestral karma and one can see why karma is unfathomable. Because it's just about infinite! Anyway, the soul might choose such a situation to burn off some similar karma from a previous life. Seems reasonable to have high intentions, do our best and leave the rest up to the lords of karma. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: (snip) Re authfriend's I'm not sure this makes a lot of sense. Assuming the soul chooses the circumstances of its next life, why would it pick a mother who is going to abort? : because the soul chose parents with the right genes and circumstances for its future progress but it couldn't know in advance that the mother would later freely choose to abort. OooK... As to karma having to be matched for both mother and fetus: I'd hate to have to do the balancing act required for that one to work out. Unfathomable is the course of action [i.e., karma]. (Krishna to Arjuna in the Gita)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking Bad finale conspiracy theories
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Nah, Walt's going to take a job at a nearby logging camp working along side a guy from Miami. ;-) Hope Walt doesn't get drunk and reveal his past, cuz then the Code might come into play. :-) I hope you haven't been too busy fussing over Neo and FFL to have missed the best new fall broadcast TV show I've seen thus far. And you should really be ashamed of yourself if you did since it is Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Been busy working and then traveling back to Leiden, so I haven't seen it. I suppose I will this weekend. Also Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing appears next week on DVD at the local Redboxs. That would be good, because it'll finally enter the pirateverse at that point. It still hasn't made it to Paris.
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Destiny of Souls, all about the bardo, life between lives, etc. So helpful. And what about the FFL atheists? Because someone obviously doesn't know, there is no need to believe in the God thang to believe in reincarnation. Millions of Buddhists, for instance, believe in reincarnation but don't see any need to believe in a God. The two are not related.
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Actually Much Ado releases on the 8th. It's on VUDU now, probably on Amazon too. Lionsgate is the distributor so it might also be available on Netfilx WI too that week. I missed the Agents debut so watched it OnDemand. Comcast doesn't let you fast forward on some of these but pressing the chapter button skips 5 minutes. Since commercial blocks are often 3-4 minutes so hit I hit the chapter button then rewind until the ratings box shows up in the upper left corner then hit play. I'll probably be watching ABC and NBC shows on Hulu next month. I'm holding on to Comcast until after The Bridge finale next Weds. I didn't want to pay for a whole season to see one episode. Some of these series can be purchased on VUDU and Amazon but you own them. That I guess keeps cable and satellite companies from complaining because they could profitably be rented for $1 an episode or $13 a season. And they wonder why people pirate stuff. And BTW, the production companies get far less than a $1 per episode per household from the cable and satellite companies. On 09/27/2013 01:27 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Nah, Walt's going to take a job at a nearby logging camp working along side a guy from Miami. ;-) Hope Walt doesn't get drunk and reveal his past, cuz then the Code might come into play. :-) I hope you haven't been too busy fussing over Neo and FFL to have missed the best new fall broadcast TV show I've seen thus far. And you should really be ashamed of yourself if you did since it is Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Been busy working and then traveling back to Leiden, so I haven't seen it. I suppose I will this weekend. Also Whedon's Much Ado About Nothing appears next week on DVD at the local Redboxs. That would be good, because it'll finally enter the pirateverse at that point. It still hasn't made it to Paris.
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Seraphita, are you sure we're not in a saloon bar. People keep posting about a bear in a bar (-: From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 5:07 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn Re: I'd recommend ignoring any esoteric info that isn't helpful and or comforting.: I see where you're coming from but I'm not sounding off in a saloon bar! To clarify: I don't *myself* believe in reincarnation! I don't *myself* oppose abortion! I'm just exploring the Beast's ideas because they intrigue me. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita, I have not had any direct experience of abortion either in my own life or that of a family member. Nonetheless, I'm sure it must be an awful choice for any woman, maybe even in horrendous situations. And it has got to be one the *hottest* if not the hottest political issue around as well as being an ethical and moral and religious minefield. I'd recommend ignoring any esoteric info that isn't helpful and or comforting. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:02 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Beast and the unborn The splendid rant by Aleister Crowley I posted originally is ambiguous: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder . . . : is he against all abortion - which happens to be a serious criminal offence at the time? Or is it just criminal abortion he's against? That is, he would be happy with legal clinics providing modern, hygienic standards as opposed to back-street walk-ups? Anyway, I only included the quote as a relish. The reincarnation-karma aspect is more intriguing. Re Share's I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months : that idea doesn't fly. Some people can recall their experiences in the womb so the soul has to be there at the stage when sense organs are developed enough. The simplest and most obvious implication is that it gets there at the moment of conception. Isn't the idea of a later arrival just too suspiciously self-serving? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraphita, I remember that the Natural Law Party many years ago was pro choice, recognizing that abortion is a tragedy and also that a woman has a right to choose. Their platform said it in a more expanded and elegant way but that was the gist of it. During my decades around spiritual groups, I've also heard that the soul enters the foetus at 3 months and that stillbirths, for example, occur when the soul changes its mind about incarnating and or experiencing that particular life path. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 9:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Beast and the unborn As the magus Aleister Crowley was a sexual degenerate and hoovered up multiple partners during his career I'd rather lazily assumed that he would be in favour of abortion. I was surprised to come across this quote of his: I consider criminal abortion in any circumstances soever as one of the foulest kinds of murder. Apart from anything else, it nearly always ruins the health of the woman, when it fails to kill her. The vigour of my views on this point strengthens my general attitude on the question of sexual freedom. I believe that very few women, left to themselves, would be so vile as to commit this sin against the Holy Ghost; to thwart the deepest instincts of nature at the risk of health and Life, to say nothing of imprisonment. Yet criminal abortion is one of the commonest of crimes and one most generally condoned by what I must paradoxically call secret public opinion. And the reason is that our social system makes it shameful and punishable by poverty for a woman to do what evolution has spent ages in constructing her to do, save under conditions with which the vast majority of women cannot possibly comply. The remedy lies entirely with public opinion. Let motherhood be recognized as honourable in itself, and even the pressure of poverty would not prevent any but a few degenerate women, with perverse appetites for pleasure, from fulfilling their function. In the case of such it would indeed be better that they and their children perish. So - not pulling any punches there! A lot of what Aleister objects to in the passage above could probably be answered by having the type of child-care provision we have in European-style welfare states. However, he raises a more interesting objection (though I couldn't immediately spot a quote via Google just now) when he claimed that belief in reincarnation implies a belief that abortion must be a crime. Why? Because, according to the doctrine a
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The FFL atheists are, IMHO, very godly (-: From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 3:34 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn So helpful. And what about the FFL atheists? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Destiny of Souls, all about the bardo, life between lives, etc. From: authfriend@... authfriend@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 1:39 PM Subject: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Share explained: XA, there are many books on this topic. And I'm sure they answer all Xeno's questions definitively, right, Share? But we'll have to find the books ourselves if we want to know those answers, because Share isn't going to tell us the titles or share anything from them. As for me, I was raised Catholic so I come from that mindset. I also appreciate what the FFL atheists say. Which FFL atheists would those be, Share? And though I have never seen an AK-47 in person, I have sensed consciousness even in a plastic bag! Go figure! No need. It figures. From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 12:33 PM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Share Long wrote: Mike, from what I've picked up over the years, it is the soul that propels us forward to eternal union with God. And that journey might include making seemingly horrendous choices. What I've heard is that the soul knows what is needed to burn off all the karma so that union with God is possible. We evolve in the direction of that union and evolution may include many births and deaths. But again, on the day to day human level, we have the highest intentions, we do our best and we leave the rest to life's unfolding mystery. How does a soul enter a human body? How would it know how to do that? How does it select a body, or how is the body selected for it? What are the mechanics of entry? How does a soul interact with a body (for if it was not there in the first place, what kind of interface does a soul require to make the body function)? I think this should be an essay. And a final question: Does an AK-47 have a soul, and should it be granted religious status?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace
7. amRtamanthana n. ` the churning for the Amrita 'N. of the chapters 17-19 of MBh. i. Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: Search Results: http://www.sanskrit-lexicon http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/cgi-bin/tamil/recherche On 9/27/2013 6:08 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: Rtam (Ritam) is cognate with the English word rhythm and contains the meaning of universal order. Since mrta means death - a-mrta (amrita) means deathless. You can repeat it all you want, contemplate it in sanyama or whatever and you will not become immortal. These words are not forms of each other. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, should we not join this thread with the alchemy thread?! *From:* Richard J. Williams punditster@... *To:* Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 10:15 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace On 9/26/2013 9:25 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote: Ritam prajna The phrase 'rtam' is related to the 'amrita' mentioned in chapter 17-19 of Mbh - the 'churning of the milk ocean'. According to MMY 'rtamrita' is produced in the human gut during the practice of TM - otherwise called Soma in the Rig Veda. The most popular version of the Indian myth 'Churning the milk Ocean' is found in the Eighth Canto of the Bhagavata Purana. In Buddhist mythology, Amrita is the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality.
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emptybill, rhythm suggests vibration to me. I can see how a universal vibration would impose order. Also, I don't think sanyama in TMSP is about contemplation. I think it's a more subtle practice than that. From: emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace Rtam (Ritam) is cognate with the English word rhythm and contains the meaning of universal order. Since mrta means death - a-mrta (amrita) means deathless. You can repeat it all you want, contemplate it in sanyama or whatever and you will not become immortal. These words are not forms of each other. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Richard, should we not join this thread with the alchemy thread?! From: Richard J. Williams punditster@... To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ritam Bhara Pragya and world peace On 9/26/2013 9:25 PM, emptybill@... wrote: Ritam prajna The phrase 'rtam' is related to the 'amrita' mentioned in chapter 17-19 of Mbh - the 'churning of the milk ocean'. According to MMY 'rtamrita' is produced in the human gut during the practice of TM - otherwise called Soma in the Rig Veda. The most popular version of the Indian myth 'Churning the milk Ocean' is found in the Eighth Canto of the Bhagavata Purana. In Buddhist mythology, Amrita is the drink of the gods, which grants them immortality.
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I don't really care to elaborate, cuz I'm a little fatigued, but having been present at the birth of my three kids, I picked up different impressions of their mindsets about the whole affair of their being born. It could be entirely subjective but certain things stood out for each of them. And as mentioned before, after being the coach during the birth of the first one, I was glad to relinquish that responsibility for #2 and #3, and be more of a bystander. One other comment. I don't think there is a thing wrong being in a hospital, and hooked up to all kinds of monitors, as opposed to, say being born in a bathtub, or in salt water with dolphins. The hospital setting is a warm environment, and more importantly safe. It can be rough sometimes getting that baby out in a healthy fashion. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Somehow, I'm not seeing how it would be possible for a soul to intentionally intend to be aborted, since the preservation of one's own life is so ingrained in our very being, an evolutionary force so to speak. What a slippery slope to start down, fetal suicide. Kind of goes against anything the Buddha taught about all sentient beings. It's not just reasonable to have high intentions, it's essential. Once you start lowering the standard for life, it will be easier to lower it again and again and again. Do we want to evolve in the direction of life or in the direction of death? From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Then add in ancestral karma and one can see why karma is unfathomable. Because it's just about infinite! Anyway, the soul might choose such a situation to burn off some similar karma from a previous life. Seems reasonable to have high intentions, do our best and leave the rest up to the lords of karma. From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 10:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The Beast and the unborn Seraphita wrote: (snip) Re authfriend's I'm not sure this makes a lot of sense. Assuming the soul chooses the circumstances of its next life, why would it pick a mother who is going to abort? : because the soul chose parents with the right genes and circumstances for its future progress but it couldn't know in advance that the mother would later freely choose to abort. OooK... As to karma having to be matched for both mother and fetus: I'd hate to have to do the balancing act required for that one to work out. Unfathomable is the course of action [i.e., karma]. (Krishna to Arjuna in the Gita)
