[FairfieldLife] No Kia has the edge?

2013-12-13 Thread cardemaister
https://www.abiresearch.com/press/nsn-has-the-edge-in-the-race-to-a-2018-us-9-billio?goback=.nmp_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1
 
 

 London, United Kingdom - 11 Dec 2013
 
 With the explosion in mobile data traffic, operators struggle to provide the 
data services that their customers desire. ABI Research forecasts that mobile 
monitoring and optimization equipment revenue will increase to over $9 billion 
by 2018 and operators can remain competitive by continuously providing their 
customers with high performance data services even with congested networks.
 Research analyst, Sabir Rafiq comments, “Mobile operators are feeling the 
squeeze on data capacity, and with solutions such as Self-Optimizing Networks 
(SON) and Wi-Fi offloading they can assure that their customers receive the 
best possible service at all times.”
 NSN = Nokia Solutions and Networks?
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams  wrote:

 The Grateful Dead

 Rolling Stone ranked them 57th in the list of the Greatest Artists of
all
 Time. I attended several Dead performances in San Francisco in 1966
at the
 Fillmore Auditorium and at the Avalon Ballroom along with Owsley
Stanley.
 The Dead are listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as
performing the
 most rock concerts - 2,318 concerts.

The Dead are also the most recorded musical group in history. This is
because they never felt propietary about their live music, feeling as
if it was created in the moment and belonged to the moment, so they
allowed fans to record the concerts. They even provided jacks off the
sound system so that the early arrivers could get the best quality
recordings. As a result, there are very few of those 2,318 concerts that
are *not* available somewhere.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Yeah, that's a complete non sequitur in this context.


  Not everything that comes to mind is worth saying. Not everything
that comes to mind makes sense.

Ah, the definitive Judy-statement.

Only the things that *her* limited mind can follow are sequiturs, and
*can* be followed. Only thing things that make sense to *her* are worth
posting.

Everyone should write down to her level.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 And let's not forget that a lot of the audience was hearing kill da
 wabbit in their heads. :-D

When I was growing up, the definition of a highbrow was A person who
can listen to the Willaim Tell Overture and not think of the Lone
Ranger.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Unanswered question

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Although I cited the Gnostics with approval a few posts above I have
to confess than when I read their literature there is definitely
something slightly sinister about their texts. Too much distaste for the
body and sex; too much yearning for escape. That could simply be a
literary trope of course. We can't know for sure at this distance.

That's sort of how I feel about the Cathars (whose philosophy was a
distant branch of Gnosticism). While I admire some of the things about
their culture (equal numbers of men and women priests, no paid clergy,
everyone needing a profession that paid for their own lives so that no
one got to ride on the coattails of others, etc.), I cannot identify in
any way with their basic Dualist philosophy.

There was no *concept* of Unity; everything was viewed in terms of a
complete and eternal Duality. God was not even a *part* of this world (
long before Robin imagined God's tantrum yoga departure after a WWII
bombing :-), and there was no way that one could reach God or even any
form of happiness in one's lifetime. In addition, this world was viewed
as a hellworld, created not by God but by the Other Guy, so life in the
world was viewed as by definition living in hell. Add to this the fact
that they believed in recincarnation so had nothing to look forward to
at death other than more hell, and you could say they had a pretty
fuckin' gloomy outlook on life.

But then, you look at the world they lived in, and you can sorta
understand why such beliefs might arise. The average lifespan in the
Middle Ages was 30, meaning that fewer than half the humans born reached
that age. Poverty, disease, and injustice was everywhere, the Church was
totally corrupt and literally *sold* forgiveness for one's sins to the
gullible, and to top it all off, no one bathed. Ever.

No wonder they wanted to die, and *avoid* reincarnation. Who would want
to be reborn into what they considered a hellworld.

In this respect, they're not that different from Hindus and Buddhists
who also seek total extinction, freedom from rebirth, and to get off
the wheel. Me, I cannot help but think that anyone in any era who
believes this has kinda missed the point.

Hell is not determined by one's surroundings or circumstances, but by
one's attitude. Have a good 'tude, and you can have a good time
anywhere:













[FairfieldLife] What crowd-sourced information sounds like

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
Very creative. Music created by the actions of people editing Wikipedia.
Bell sounds are an addition, strings are subtractions, and the pitch is
determined by how big the edit is.

http://listen.hatnote.com/#nowelcomes,en
http://listen.hatnote.com/#nowelcomes,en







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
It's good, Richard. I think it's a conspiracy to help us relinquish the need 
for certainty (-:





On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:13 PM, Richard Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
We can't even trust Snopes to tell us the truth anymore. Go figure.



On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
Richard, yesterday I filled up the tank. I use 87 since that is what it says 
to use in the owner's manual. But 87 says it has ethanol in it! Now, this is 
what I call a real life zen koan because basically I have to surrender. I have 
to take action and leave the rest up to Life, Universe, God, Whatever!







On Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:27 AM, Richard Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
It's really a moot point since there are probably zero E15 pumps in all of 
Iowa. And, I don't need no Snopes in order to understand the oil business - my 
family has been in the oil business for twenty years and Dad still works for 
Ridge Oil up near Graham. 


The use of ethanol in automobiles lowers fuel economy because is has a lower 
energy content. Ethanol creates more smog than gasoline and it is more 
expensive to produce and the production of ethanol increases global warming 
emissions. The only beneficiaries of ethanol use are repair garages. The cost 
to replace a fuel pump on your car could exceed $1000. 


The use of ethanol is in decline and the industry is going bankrupt. The only 
reason for ethanol use is by a government mandate. It's just an outrageous 
scam by the federal government. 


The U.S. is 70% to being fuel and energy independent, thanks to the oil 
production at the Bakken and Eagle Ford Shale. Most of U.S. oil imports come 
from Canada anyway. The bottom line is, unless you drive a Flex-fuel auto, 
avoid the uses of ethanol gasoline if you can. 


Before you pump, read the label on the pump!



On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:17 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  
So you watch Fox News, eh? That could explain a great deal.


BTW, before freaking out over E15 gas, read this from Snopes.com:


http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/e15.asp


Snopes's verdict is Mixed--parts of the E15 scare story are true, parts 
aren't.


Share warned:


 in case you don't already know about it:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceW9Nc1hVHU







Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Emily, will do. I do love the watery quality of piano music. The movie, 
The Piano displayed that on a few levels. What an amazing movie that was! 
Harvey Keitel (spoiler alert) winning out over Sam Neill as the romantic hero! 

I would say drums have an earthy or fiery quality. Of course the wind 
instruments are windy. I'm not sure where to place violins, my least favorite 
instrument. Which is not to say it can't be beautiful.





On Friday, December 13, 2013 12:11 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com 
emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Judy, that Pollini Chopin Piano Sonata is PHENOMENAL! HEAVENLY!  It nurtures 
the soul.  I am particularly fond of classical piano, if you have other 
recommendations.  Yes, I'm asking and I'm not proud.  Share, seriously, you 
should check it out - the third link that Judy posted.  They are all great, but 
if you like piano


Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
Judy, yeah, I was rushing last night to get out the idea. Maybe will expand on 
it today. I'm definitely not a night person! And I don't think I'll ever be a 
*long* poster ha ha.





On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:42 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Yeah, that's a complete non sequitur in this context.

Not everything that comes to mind is worth saying. Not everything that comes 
to mind makes sense. It pays to think about it before you put it out there for 
others to see.

Share fumbled:


 Judy, what comes to mind is the To be or not to be speech in Hamlet. It can 
be considered as a creation in and of itself. But certainly it is best 
considered in context of the entire play. 





On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:27 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
  
Judy and noozguru, I think music for a movie is simply another art form, best 
appreciated on its own merits rather than compared to another context of 
musical creation.  When I think of some of the wonderful music I've encountered 
in movies, I only feel gratitude to those who created it. One of the first 
movies to bring my attention to its score was Chariots of Fire with its 
compositions by Vangelis, who also wrote the haunting music for Year of Living 
Dangerously. Also the music by Maurice Jarre in Peter Weir's Witness. I could 
go on and on but only want to honor the composers who wrote such incredible 
works even though they knew their sounds might play second fiddle to the 
visuals.  





On Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:36 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
Some original movie and TV scores are excellent, worth listening to as music 
for its own sake. Others...not so much. For that matter, there's plenty of 
real popular music as well (e.g., the Beatles). And some musicals have had 
excellent music (much of Rodgers and Hammerstein, also Loesser's Guys and 
Dolls). The song My Boy Bill from RH's Carousel is a full-blown operatic 
aria (performed brilliantly by Gordon MacRae).

My use of the term real music had to do with quality, not genre or medium 
snobbery.

I've been immersed in good classical music (i.e., serious music, not restricted 
to the classical period) literally since I was in the cradle, FWIW. My father, 
himself an amateur musician, was a musical scholar who taught college courses 
in various types of serious music. My sister sang with the Boston Symphony 
Chorus. I've sung with good amateur choruses as well. I'm not exactly a 
neophyte, as you'd know if you listened to the videos I linked to. It's all 
accessible, but I doubt any of it is on any orchestra's top 40 list.

I'm not sure what the background of serious composers has to do with the 
appreciation of their music qua music. Wagner was an anti-Semite. Bach was a 
pain in the butt. Schumann was bipolar and died in a mental asylum. So what? 
Their music is transcendent. So is Mozart's. As far as Amadeus is concerned, it 
has quite a few historical inaccuracies; Mozart was not the inane fop portrayed 
in the movie (or the stage play). But it wouldn't matter if he were.

And BTW, while sponsorship was a factor as late as Mozart's day, its importance 
lessened pretty quickly after that; composers of the Romantic period generally 
didn't have to cater to aristocrats for their income (OTOH, a lot of them lived 
in straitened circumstances).

Yes, it's scandalous that orchestras need to put on so many top-40 type 
concerts in order to have sufficient funding. The neglect of music education in 
public schools is appalling.

I'm of two minds about the use of existing serious music in films. On one hand, 
at least moviegoers get some exposure to it. On the other, it imposes a kind of 
sentimentality (positive and/or negative) on the music that is not native to it 
and that can impede genuine appreciation. The ultimate horrible example, for 
me, is the use of Ride of the Valkyries as background for the atrocities 
portrayed in Apocalypse Now. It's almost impossible to hear the music without 
the mental intrusion of images of helicopters slaughtering innocent Vietnamese 
civilians. Yes, both have to do with battles, but of very different types--one 
mythical and gloriously heroic, the other utterly depraved.

I don't believe any of the music for Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet was genuine 
Baroque music, by the way, as opposed to pseudo-Baroque pieces composed for 
the movie. The only previously existing serious music used in the film, as far 
as I'm aware, is from the Liebestod from Wagner's Tristan und Isolde, written 
in the 1850s.

Bhairitu wrote:


  Amusing.  I was an honors music student 
at a major university with composition as my strength.  What was interesting 
was learning how these guys actually came up with their music.  There even are 
some pieces that are adaptations of bar songs of the composer's day.

There really is no venue for serious composers in this age but
  writing movie scores and for TV is one for them.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 It's good, Richard. I think it's a conspiracy to help us relinquish
the need for certainty (-:

And thus a good thing. If there is any human quality that epitomizes the
*lowest* possible survival skill, the trait that's pretty much
*guaranteed* to make you a recipient of the Darwin Awards, it's
certainty.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-13 Thread Jason

John, it's known for decades that pairs of particles called
virtual particles pop into existence from nothingness in
vacuum, and then immediately annihilate each other.

In fact, Stephen Hawking found out about the emission of
black holes using this phenomenon.

It's quite possible that our bubble universe has a negative
mirror bubble universe. They may annihilate each other.  I
remember one lady scientist on the discovery channel stating
that there are indications of a parallel universe lurking
close to our universe and it's gravity is pulling galaxies
to one side of the universe.  They call the region cold
spot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMB_cold_spot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CMB_cold_spot

However, please note that there is a huge difference between
an actual parallel universe and alternate reality.  They
are two different things altogether.

Dr. David Deutch's universes are alternate realities
existing simultaneously with our universe.  Imagine our
universe as a quantum particle having many states.  Each
state represents a reality or history.

Dr. Micho Kaku's parallel universes are the actual parallel
universes, infinite bubble universes floating in a sea of
nothing.

In actual parallel universes, each universe would have its
own laws of physics and completely different particles. Even
the structure of space would be different.  The particles in
our universe cannot even exist in that other universe.  If
you step into that universe, you would simply disintegrate.

However, alternate universes are different.  They are
actually our own universe, existing in many quantum states.
Each state is an alternate history.

Thus, maintain that distinction between 'parallel universe'
and 'alternate universe'.

Now coming to the big bang, if we can find out how all these
'virtual particles' pop into existence from nothingness, I
am sure we can get vital clues from it.

Einstein proved that space and time are interlinked in a
space-time continuum.  If time is an illusion, space too has
to be an illusion.

We know the universe is finite for a number of reasons.  If
it's infinite, there will be an infinite number of stars in
the sky. The sky would appear white in color. The radiation
levels would be so high that the earth would be vaporised in
seconds.  An infinite universe would also mean that the
universe is eternal, ie never created.

An infinite universe would also bring in infinite
possiblities, ie after a particular distance another
identical earth would exist and everything that happened
here would also happen there and after another particular
distance, yet another identical earth with same history and
so on ad infinitum.

Fortunately, the universe is finite, which means there is
only one earth.  The chances of another identical earth
existing on our own space is implausible.


---  jr_esq@... wrote:

 Xeno,


  You stated that:


Scientists on the other hand, with the Big Bang,
  think that time also began with the Big Bang, that is,
  nothing came before the Big Bang because that is a
  meaningless question to ask. It just happened. Nothing
  made the universe, it just happened. There are other
  conceptions, such as multiverses, etc., which I am not
  going to wade into.


  There are actually some scientists who are trying to prove that they
know what happened before the Big Bang.  There's a research group called
the Perimeter Institute in Canada which is proposing the Brane Theory. 
This is alternately called the Big Bump.  Essentially, the theory
states that the universe began due to the collision of two membranes in
the 11th dimension.  However, most of the scientific circles have not
accepted this idea to be plausible.


  Also, your statement that the universe just happened raises some
questions for logical and scientific reasons.  As stated in the Kalam
Cosmological Argument, your statement cannot stand further logical
scrutiny.  Basically, the KCA states that the Prime Mover is the cause
of the universe.


  In science, Roger Penrose, the professor-emiritus from Oxford
University, believes that the universe is a product of endless
explosions that occur after eons of time.  However, he has not been able
to produce a scientific paper to prove that this idea is true.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Black Hats and White Hats

2013-12-13 Thread Richard Williams
The Darkside Hacker

Kevin Mitnick, known as the Darkside Hacker, was at one time the
most-wanted computer criminal in the United States. Law enforcement
officials convinced a judge that he had the ability to start a nuclear war
by whistling into a pay phone. One state attorney told the judge that
Mitnick could somehow dial into the NORAD modem via a payphone from prison
and communicate with the modem by whistling to launch nuclear missiles.

According to Douglas, Mitnick managed to hack into some of the country's
most powerful — and seemingly impenetrable agencies such as the DMV, SSA,
and the FBI, and large companies, including PacBell, Motorola, Nokia, and
DEC. Using social engineering and conning employees into giving him
private information and maneuvering through layers of security. Using
hacker techniques and social engineering Mitnick gained access to data that
no one else could.

The 2012 graphic novel Wizzywig by Ed Piskor is a close allusion to the
story of Mitnick, with the main character's name replaced with Kevin
Phenicle. The novel parallels the entire story of Mitnick under the
codename Boingthump, from his early days of phone phreaking.

Think your information and your computer is secure? You can yourself a lot
of trouble by just sending your IP address and password to Kevin Mitnick at
2245 N. Green Valley Parkway, Suite 411, Henderson, NV. LoL!

Work cited:

'Hacker Culture'
by Thomas Douglas
University of Minnesota Press
pp. xxiv


See More:

'Hackers'
Directed by Iain Softley
Starring Jonny Lee Miller, Angelina Jolie, Renoly Santiago, Matthew
Lillard, Lorraine Bracco and Fisher Stevens.

[image: Inline image 1]

Read more:

'The Hacker Manifesto'
http://www.phrack.org/issues.html?issue=7id=3mode=txt

'Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution'
by Steven Levy

'The Art of Deception'
by Kevin Mitnick

'The Art of Intrusion: The Real Stories Behind the Exploits of Hackers,
Intruders  Deceivers'
by Kevin Mitnick

'Ghost in the Wires: My Adventures as the World's Most Wanted Hacker'
by Kevin Mitnick
Foreword by Steve Wozniak


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Massive Hacker Attack!

 According to SpiderLabs, ...'123456’ was the most widely used password
 and ‘password’, ‘123,’ and ‘11’ were also among the top entries. Three
 of the most used passwords are 'password', 'sex' and 'god', not
 particularly in that order. Admins love to use 'god' as their password- it
 gives them a feeling of power.

 So, let's review some password protocols:

 1. Do not use the same password for all your online activities.
 2. Use a seven word combination of letters, numbers, and symbols for your
 password with at least one letter in caps.
 3. Do NOT write down your password down on a Post-it note and affix it  to
 your computer monitor.
 4. Never reveal your password to anyone, including your significant other.
 5. Change you password frequently - at least once a month, in order to be
 on the safe side.
 6. DO IT NOW - don't wait until tomorrow to change your password.

 Two million passwords for social media and email accounts have been
 released online by hackers, IT security experts have discovered.

 Metro UK:
 http://metro.co.uk/two-million-facebook-gmail-and-twitter-passwords-stolenhttp://metro.co.uk/2013/12/05/two-million-facebook-gmail-and-twitter-passwords-stolen-by-criminal-gang-4216332/


 On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 The programmer is God and Hackers are the prophets of Information
 Technology.

 So, if you are a hacker, it would be evil to not share your data and your
 code with the rest of the world, to save mankind from ignorance - a moral
 imperative for the hacker. The hacker's world view is libertarian- they
 believe that powerful individuals are taking over the Internet and
 controlling our thoughts through the media, violating our privacy. All the
 while posting reams of information about themselves. Go figure.

 Because he knows the power of the technology he has mastered, he knows
 how distressingly fragile the barrier is between freedom and
 censorship—it’s a simple matter of who writes the code. Underlying it all
 was the hacker belief that the world could be perfected if enough of us
 tapped society’s vast reserves of knowledge and put it to proper use.

 Read more:

 'So Open It Hurts'
 What the Internet did to Aaron Swartz
 New Republic:
 http://preview.tinyurl.com/ala5v77


 On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Reuters - A computer hacker was sentenced on Monday to three years and
 five months in prison for stealing the personal data of about 120,000 Apple
 Inc iPad users, including big-city mayors, a TV network news anchor and a
 Hollywood movie mogul...

 'U.S. computer hacker gets three-and-a-half years for stealing iPad user
 data'
 http://tinyurl.com/c72z58j


 On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
yep, turq, life is definitely a benign conspiracy to help us get how uncertain 
certainty is (-:





On Friday, December 13, 2013 6:44 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:

 It's good, Richard. I think it's a conspiracy to help us relinquish the need 
 for certainty (-:

And thus a good thing. If there is any human quality that epitomizes the 
*lowest* possible survival skill, the trait that's pretty much *guaranteed* 
to make you a recipient of the Darwin Awards, it's certainty.  :-)


 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
Love it, love it, love it. And here I thought it was just an idiotic TV show! 
Watch out for those subliminals, folks! They're everywhere (-:





On Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:38 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Sherwood Schwartz, the creator of Gilligan's Island, said he patterned the 
'seven stranded castaways' after the seven deadly sins but he didn't admit it 
until years later in his book about the show. (There is that number '7' again, 
as in seven states of unconsciousness)

 The sins and their associated characters:

The Professor – Pride 
Thurston Howell III - Greed 
Ginger - Lust 
Mary Ann - Envy (of Ginger's looks) 
Mrs. Lovey Howell - Gluttony 
The Skipper - Anger
Gilligan – Sloth

Some have speculated that the castaways were in Hell and Gilligan, who always 
wore red, did all he could to ensure they stayed there by sabotaging their 
escape plots, thus Gilligan is Satan.

And everybody panned it as a dumb show.

Reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode where a man dies, goes to heaven and then 
gets totally bored by old folks talking about their vacation or something like 
that. Then he finds out this is not heaven, it's hell, and it lasts forever.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:



[Xeno]:
It is really cold here, because I have the heat turned down to save $$. Maybe 
I will make some hot cocoa and watch a totallyfrivolous TV show. 


[Ann highlight and below]:
Is that what one would term a redundant statement?

There are occasionally TV shows with more depth, but you have to search around.






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:


Barry,


It's logical to say that there is a Prime Mover if one reaches an infinite 
regression situation.  It isn't arbitrary.   Specifically, space and time are 
mental constructs.  They cannot exist without a Knower.  Without a Knower, 
there is NOTHING, NOWHERE, NOTIME.  How is it possible for the universe to 
start in the past and to exist as it is now?  As such, the Knower is the 
Prime Mover.


As a human being, you're supposed to find out and understand the world around 
us since you too are a knower.  You cannot force everyone to accept what you 
believe is true without making any inquiry-- scientific is the best--to get 
the right answer.  Otherwise, you become a dictator.


Although some church thinkers do not agree, there are some scientists who 
believe that it's possible to know what happened before the universe began.  
These include Roger Penrose, Michio Kaku and Leonard Susskind.  Are you 
criticizing these scientists for making an inquiry that you believe is 
unnecessary?


IMO, human beings are knowers and should use their full intelligence and 
reason to find out how the world works, including how the universe started, 
and if possible to know what happened before it started.  What is wrong with 
that?


There is no greater enjoyment and bliss than knowing the Truth.  If you enjoy 
your day today, there is nothing wrong with that.  But is it enough?


Re: [FairfieldLife] How Animals Eat Their Food

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
Makes sense, Judy. But I like that it was a fun aspect anyway.





On Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:02 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
I would imagine they had toddler cups so the liquid didn't splash all over them 
each time the animal guy fell on the table (and so the table, which was made of 
cardboard boxes, wouldn't get all soggy from being repeatedly drenched). A 
technical issue, IOW.

Share opined:


 I like that they both have toddler cups to drink out of. Very nice touch 
 because totally unrelated to the main theme. And I thought the other guy was 
 a perfect foil for the *animal* guy. 





On Thursday, December 12, 2013 2:16 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
Highly sophisticated humor. ;-) There's a Part 2, which isn't quite as funny, 
but still a trip.

I loved the lizard, and the rhinoceros.

(Obviously I was wrong about not being able to insert clickable links.)

Mike wrote:


 LOL! I like the T-Rex. 



On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:41 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnydFmqHuVo

(For some reason I can no longer insert clickable links. The icon has stopped 
working.)





[FairfieldLife] New technology for achieving enlightenment?

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
The headlines read:

Digital Cameras Are Messing With Your Memory
New research finds a photo-taking-impairment effect: when people take
a picture, they forget the moment.
http://www.fastcodesign.com/3023373/evidence/digital-cameras-are-messing\
-with-your-memory
http://www.fastcodesign.com/3023373/evidence/digital-cameras-are-messin\
g-with-your-memory

So does that mean that if you take a 'selfie,' you forget your self, and
thus no longer have one any more?  :-)






Re: [FairfieldLife] You#39;ve got mail - problems.

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams

Never heard of a professional using Yahoo Mail to run a business. LoL!

On 12/12/2013 11:50 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Hate to tell ya, but I haven't had any trouble with Yahoo Mail at 
all. ROTFL.*


*
Richard trolled:
*
 Hey, Judy, how's that Yahoo Mail working out for ya? LoL!

A days-long outage for some Yahoo e-mail users is casting a dark 
shadow over a perceived turnaround at the once-mighty Internet player. 
Some users of Yahoo Mail, which underwent a major overhaul over the 
summer, were still without service Thursday from an outage that 
started late Monday. 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Suicide Bombers Are Criminals

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams

Death for all suicide bombers!

On 12/13/2013 12:07 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


So says a top cleric in Saudi Arabia.  We now wonder how long he can 
stay alive after making this statement.



http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-top-cleric-calls-suicide-bombers-39-criminals-154616924.html





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
You might consider telling us the truth about ethanol instead of sending 
us to Snopes for a mixed report. Ethanol is a government fraud an a 
rippoff. Go figure.


On 12/12/2013 11:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


You might want to actually /read/ what Snopes has to say.


Richard trolled:


  We can't even trust Snopes to tell us the truth anymore. Go figure. 


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Share Long sharelong60@...
mailto:sharelong60@... wrote:

Richard, yesterday I filled up the tank. I use 87 since that
is what it says to use in the owner's manual. But 87 says it
has ethanol in it! Now, this is what I call a real life zen
koan because basically I have to surrender. I have to take
action and leave the rest up to Life, Universe, God, Whatever!






Re: [FairfieldLife] New technology for achieving enlightenment?

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
Thanks, turq. One of the things I like about these kinds of posts to these 
kinds of sites is the presence of other interesting articles on the right side. 
In this instance, there's a fun and useful article about the cost of printer 
ink. As for the posted article, I especially like the bits about the effect of 
zooming and using a touch operated screen.





On Friday, December 13, 2013 7:25 AM, TurquoiseB turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
The headlines read:


Digital Cameras Are Messing With Your Memory
New research finds a photo-taking-impairment effect: when people take a 
picture, they forget the moment.
http://www.fastcodesign.com/3023373/evidence/digital-cameras-are-messing-with-your-memory
 

So does that mean that if you take a 'selfie,' you forget your self, and thus 
no longer have one any more?  :-)






[FairfieldLife] Is David Lynch's macabre taste caused by mixing TM and celebrity?

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
After all, it's not the first time that a famous set of TMers have
dwelled upon the delights of murder and serial killing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpCV2wgoxC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpCV2wgoxC8

:-)






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-13 Thread Mike Dixon
I read a book years ago written from the Indian perspective about the Little 
Big Horn. A doctor was privileged to interview several Lakotas that were there. 
They said that many of the troops committed suicide during the battle and they 
thought it was because of the *firewater* in their canteens. In those days it 
was commonly thought that if you are in a battle with Indians you always saved 
your last bullet for yourself because you dare not be taken alive. The Lakotas 
said very few troops fought bravely and one of them was Custer's brother Tom 
and they attributed that to his *warpaint*, the eagle tattooed on his chest.
Historical accounts show that Custer had his men on the move for many hours, 
maybe 72 , following Indian sign when he gave the order for his men to camp and 
rest. I would bet that if his men did indeed had whiskey in their canteens, 
they probably started drinking. Sometime later, scouts found the Indian camp 
off on the horizon and showed it to Custer.  A report had just come in about 
the same time that Indians had been seen foraging through some crates that had 
fallen behind on the trail. Custer was afraid the Indians would know that he 
was close and  would scatter. So he called *boots and saddles* and pressed his 
exhausted men and horses to break camp and attack. I would assume his men and 
horses were not only exhausted but probably many were drunk as well. They 
didn't stand a chance. It is estimated that there probably were  at least a 
thousand warriors and many were better armed, with repeating rifles, than 
Custer's men who were armed with single
 shot carbines and ammunition that constantly jammed and prevented quick 
reloading. One Indian said the whole battle took about as long as it takes a 
hungry man to eat his dinner.



On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:10 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com 
s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
  
stating that he could whip any bunch of Indians 


Pride before a fall. It seems to be a common failing in the military.

Another western gun that has a certain aesthetic appeal are those old 
Confederate revolvers. As the South lacked the industrial capacity of the North 
they made the non-stressed gun parts of brass. But instead of looking cheap and 
cheerful the yellow metal had a gold-like glamour. 
I noticed that the movie Ride with the Devil picked up on that aspect as part 
of its look and really emphasised the golden glow in the shoot-out scenes.
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
It's a conspiracy by the federal government and political operatives 
like Al Gore to screw the public in order to prevent another green 
company bankruptcy. Judy tried to denigrate Share and the Fox news 
segment based on her political ideology and personal animosity toward 
Share. Then Judy tried to send  us to Snope's to read a mixed review. 
Judy has a problem with telling the truth.


Instead of feeding us junk science she should have just reported the 
truth about ethanol. She fibbed and got caught and now she's in denial 
mode, and everyone knows it. Judy's mis-direction could have caused some 
car owners hundreds of dollars in repairs and been cause for their car 
warranty being dishonered. She should be reported to the group owner for 
posting fibs and mis-information.


The truth is the use of ethanol in automobiles lowers fuel economy 
because is has a lower energy content. Ethanol creates more smog than 
gasoline and it is more expensive to produce and the production of 
ethanol increases global warming emissions.


The only beneficiaries of ethanol use are repair garages. The real 
reason for ethanol use is by a government mandate. It's just an 
outrageous scam by the federal government and now Judy is a co-spirator 
to the scam by not being totally truthful.


Maybe Judy should just keep her pie hole shut about stuff she doesn't 
know anything about and instead of ankle-biting Share at every message 
she sends, just stick to subjects she is willing to be truthful about. 
Obviously Judy can't be trusted anymore, and I'm beginning to think 
there are lot's of other subjects where her information is also suspect. 
Go figure.


On 12/13/2013 6:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 It's good, Richard. I think it's a conspiracy to help us relinquish 
the need for certainty (-:


*/And thus a good thing. If there is any human quality that epitomizes 
the *lowest* possible survival skill, the trait that's pretty much 
*guaranteed* to make you a recipient of the Darwin Awards, it's 
certainty.  :-)



/*






Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Pollini is just dazzling, isn't he? He's kind of a strange cat with a peculiar 
performance history if you check out his bio on Wikipedia (and he may be very 
ill; he keeps canceling performances). I was never that fond of Chopin--too 
tinkly!--until my sister turned me on to Pollini. It was a revelation.
 

 My familiarity with the piano literature is rather spotty, but I'll see what 
else I can come up with for you. Give me a little time to look around.
 
Emily wrote:

  Judy, that Pollini Chopin Piano Sonata is PHENOMENAL! HEAVENLY!  It 
nurtures the soul.  I am particularly fond of classical piano, if you have 
other recommendations.  Yes, I'm asking and I'm not proud.  Share, seriously, 
you should check it out - the third link that Judy posted.  They are all great, 
but if you like piano
 





[FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's a complete non sequitur in this context. 
 
 
 Not everything that comes to mind is worth saying. Not everything that 
 comes to mind makes sense. 

 Ah, the definitive Judy-statement. 

Only the things that *her* limited mind can follow are sequiturs, and *can* 
be followed. Only thing things that make sense to *her* are worth posting. 

Everyone should write down to her level.  :-)

I have finally figured it out. You are not only a war monger but you are 
actually dumb. Anyone who is willing to let stand statements like those you 
just revealed either has no self respect or is just plain old stupid. And what 
is more, you assume we are all as clueless as you are, that we would actually 
give credence to these dolt-headed inanities. I apologize to all the critical 
things I ever said to you Barry, I didn't realize you were, uh, challenged in 
the way I see now.


 


[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams wrote:
 
 The Grateful Dead
 
 Rolling Stone ranked them 57th in the list of the Greatest Artists of all
 Time. I attended several Dead performances in San Francisco in 1966 at the
 Fillmore Auditorium and at the Avalon Ballroom along with Owsley Stanley.
 The Dead are listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as performing the
 most rock concerts - 2,318 concerts. 

 The Dead are also the most recorded musical group in history. This is because 
they never felt propietary about their live music, feeling as if it was 
created in the moment and belonged to the moment, so they allowed fans to 
record the concerts. They even provided jacks off the sound system so that the 
early arrivers could get the best quality recordings. As a result, there are 
very few of those 2,318 concerts that are *not* available somewhere. 
 

 The Grateful Dead. Couldn't stand their music then and still can't. I thought 
maybe it would get better with my age but, no. Is it okay for me to be grateful 
that they are almost dead?



 


[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread doctordumbass
I always enjoyed the Stanley Mouse cover art, but I'm with you - very few of 
their songs were any good - a lot of improvisation and acid, with some country 
influences. Saw them live twice - Very overrated.

[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater
Absolutely. But I can't believe there is anyone here who agrees with me on 
this, I thought I was headed for the FFL firing squad after knocking the GD... 
They just sounded like a bunch of warbly, wobbly drunk guys sitting around a 
campfire passing around a doob and trying to sing.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
What Barry means is that he's way too ignorant of theology to discuss it 
rationally, and he isn't interested in learning anything that would make it 
possible for him to do so even enough to make a decent case against its 
arguments. Instead, he'll stick with the potshots that make his ignorance 
obvious.
 

 He didn't read my post, he simply assumed (speaking of assumptions), entirely 
erroneously, that I was attempting to steer him into making assumptions 
contrary to his own certainties. If he'd read the post, he'd know that my only 
certainty is about the depth of his ignorance, incuriosity, and arrogance. But 
he's well and truly stuck with the illusions he's chosen about my perspective 
as well. He really doesn't care to have them threatened either.
 

 Xeno at least is willing to take a shot at discussion, but he needs to inform 
himself about the concept of Prime Mover. He's got it pegged badly wrong, as 
the questions Barry quotes below make all too clear.
 
Barry, quoting Xeno, tells us what he'll graciously allow others to believe:

  Comments on jr_esq's response to Barry 
 
 What are the characteristics of a 'Prime Mover'? How do you find those out? 
 How do you determine if there is a prime mover or not? What is the test? 

 Thanks for your comments on all of this, Xeno. As should be obvious, I don't 
feel like entering into a discussion with either jr_esq or the Judester about 
any of this because it feels a little like getting into an argument with a 
retard. No one wins in a situation like this, and nothing is to be 
accomplished because they simply cannot step beyond their assumptions about the 
world and how it works. Their idea of a debate about such matters is to 
always try to steer the other person into making the same assumptions they do, 
so they can then declare, Aha! I won.  :-)

As for knowing, and the truth, I think I've stated my opinion about such 
myths often enough in the past to not have to do so again. I prefer to allow 
those who believe that they know things to live in the illusions they have 
chosen.  :-) 






[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread doctordumbass
LOL - Yes, they definitely could not sing - 

Alternatively, I dug up some old Jethro Tull recently - The band should have 
been called Ian Anderson's Jethro Tull, since he wrote and composed 99% of the 
music.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Very humorous parallel to Barry's stance in the theological discussion. 
Inadvertent, but hilarious. In this case the poor dope can't even make sense of 
this minimal exchange between me and Bhairitu, and heaven forbid he take a 
chance he might be wrong and read my follow-up post.
 

 Barry prated:
   Bhairitu asked:
  
   How do you define real music?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 the non-musician said to the
 musician:
 
  I know it when I hear it.
 
 To quote someone else on this forum, That's what I was afraid she'd
 say. :-)
 
 As for the non-musician's ability to know anything, see my previous
 post. :-) 



[FairfieldLife] Like Custer like Kilpatrick like M

2013-12-13 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Posting this on FFL? Are you saying this would be some analogous to m maybe 
even quickly reading the situation dividing his command while fully engaged in 
battle? Maybe back in 1977 whence he reorganized a whole molecular chart 
command structure at the end of the large AEGTC courses in Switzerland sacking 
veteran field commanders entirely re-ranking organizational structure to go 
more directly over to a tight top down more purely autocratic control of the 
atoms and then be isolated in position by having wiped out whole legion of 
middle command officers whence unable to get or read input or to control across 
a broad front TM marched out in to the 1980's and 90's. In ways it was proly 
more akin to someone like the cavalry commander, “kill cavalry” Kilpatrick 
throwing his people into attricious charges. Think of the cavalry charge 
Kilpatrick bull- ordered way down far on the Union left by the roundtops at 
Gettysburg.. Entire bull-headed waste of really good resource on really bad 
inappropriate ground. Lead-on! 
http://www.civilwarbummer.com/general-kill-cavalry-kilpatrick-or-shermans-damned-fool/
 
http://www.civilwarbummer.com/general-kill-cavalry-kilpatrick-or-shermans-damned-fool/
 
 
 
 
 
 If George Armstrong Custer had some Winchester repeaters it sure would have 
helped! It also would have helped if had taken that shipment of Gatling guns 
with him. Also, he refused additional help from other troops stating that he 
could whip any bunch of Indians or something to that effect. LoL!
 

 
 
 There is a spot up in Austin where Custer stayed with his wife and his 
volunteer troops after the civil war. On our last trip up to Deadwood we 
visited the Custer State Park. I've read several books about Custer's last 
stand where he was wiped out by Sitting Bull. The Black Hills of South Dakota 
is full of evidence of Custer, including a county, town.
 
 

 
 
 According to almost all historians, Custer's first big mistake was going there 
in the first place; and the second big mistake is when he divided his troops 
into two groups, 208 splitting off with Major Reno; and then his third big 
mistake was charging in too soon against Crazy Horse. It should be noted that 
Custer graduated last in his class at West Point. Go figure.
 
 
 
 
 
 stating that he could whip any bunch of Indians 

 
 

 
 
 Pride before a fall. It seems to be a common failing in the military.
 
 

 
 
 Another western gun that has a certain aesthetic appeal are those old 
Confederate revolvers. As the South lacked the industrial capacity of the North 
they made the non-stressed gun parts of brass. But instead of looking cheap and 
cheerful the yellow metal had a gold-like glamour. 
 
 I noticed that the movie Ride with the Devil picked up on that aspect as 
part of its look and really emphasised the golden glow in the shoot-out scenes.
 
 
 
 
 
 I read a book years ago written from the Indian perspective about the Little 
Big Horn. A doctor was privileged to interview several Lakotas that were there. 
They said that many of the troops committed suicide during the battle and they 
thought it was because of the *firewater* in their canteens. In those days it 
was commonly thought that if you are in a battle with Indians you always saved 
your last bullet for yourself because you dare not be taken alive. The Lakotas 
said very few troops fought bravely and one of them was Custer's brother Tom 
and they attributed that to his *warpaint*, the eagle tattooed on his 
chest.Historical accounts show that Custer had his men on the move for many 
hours, maybe 72 , following Indian sign when he gave the order for his men to 
camp and rest. I would bet that if his men did indeed had whiskey in their 
canteens, they probably started drinking. Sometime later, scouts found the 
Indian camp off on the horizon and showed it to Custer.  A report had just come 
in about the same time that Indians had been seen foraging through some crates 
that had fallen behind on the trail. Custer was afraid the Indians would know 
that he was close and  would scatter. So he called *boots and saddles* and 
pressed his exhausted men and horses to break camp and attack. I would assume 
his men and horses were not only exhausted but probably many were drunk as 
well. They didn't stand a chance. It is estimated that there probably were  at 
least a thousand warriors and many were better armed, with repeating rifles, 
than Custer's men who were armed with single shot carbines and ammunition that 
constantly jammed and prevented quick reloading. One Indian said the whole 
battle took about as long as it takes a hungry man to eat his dinner. 


[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 What Barry means is that he's way too ignorant of theology to discuss it 
rationally, and he isn't interested in learning anything that would make it 
possible for him to do so even enough to make a decent case against its 
arguments. Instead, he'll stick with the potshots that make his ignorance 
obvious.
 

 He didn't read my post, he simply assumed (speaking of assumptions), entirely 
erroneously, that I was attempting to steer him into making assumptions 
contrary to his own certainties. If he'd read the post, he'd know that my only 
certainty is about the depth of his ignorance, incuriosity, and arrogance. But 
he's well and truly stuck with the illusions he's chosen about my perspective 
as well. He really doesn't care to have them threatened either.
 

 Xeno at least is willing to take a shot at discussion, but he needs to inform 
himself about the concept of Prime Mover. He's got it pegged badly wrong, as 
the questions Barry quotes below make all too clear.
 
Barry, quoting Xeno, tells us what he'll graciously allow others to believe:

  Comments on jr_esq's response to Barry 
 
 What are the characteristics of a 'Prime Mover'? How do you find those out? 
 How do you determine if there is a prime mover or not? What is the test? 

 Thanks for your comments on all of this, Xeno. As should be obvious, I don't 
feel like entering into a discussion with either jr_esq or the Judester about 
any of this because it feels a little like getting into an argument with a 
retard. No one wins in a situation like this, and nothing is to be 
accomplished because they simply cannot step beyond their assumptions about the 
world and how it works. Their idea of a debate about such matters is to 
always try to steer the other person into making the same assumptions they do, 
so they can then declare, Aha! I won.  :-)

As for knowing, and the truth, I think I've stated my opinion about such 
myths often enough in the past to not have to do so again. I prefer to allow 
those who believe that they know things to live in the illusions they have 
chosen.  :-) 

Yes, isn't this gracious of Barry? From the mouth of someone who believes so 
stringently in what he believes in that he even allows his beliefs to forever 
close him off from the possibility that he is wrong or has something else to 
discover in his life. He may as well be dead but I guess he wants to stick 
around because he gets so much pleasure from looking down on others who do not 
share his blinkered vision of the world. You know, it all stops when you think 
you've got it all figured out and Barry's got it all figured out.


 


[FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread doctordumbass
I picked up on it, a long time ago, Ann. Barry can write provocatively, but not 
very intelligently. Despite his belief to the contrary, he is a very 
conventional guy, living mostly on memories. I don't judge him for it, but I 
also don't go for this persona he creates for himself - nor do many others in 
the real world, apparently, since he is posting like crazy to FFL, now that he 
has quit his job.

In other news, I am picking up my motorhome today! So excited, and a bit 
apprehensive about wheeling around something 10 feet wide and 32 feet long - 
but also looking forward to getting out in some wilderness and hanging out. The 
advantage of a self-contained RV is that you can boondock for about ten days - 
camp anywhere, without needing external food, water, electricity or sewer 
facilities.

[FairfieldLife] Some Wonderful Installations

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater
http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/34-examples-of-installation-art-that-dont-suck/#ygJAzVhAL09WPvyj.01
 
http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/34-examples-of-installation-art-that-dont-suck/#ygJAzVhAL09WPvyj.01

[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-13 Thread doctordumbass
I recall going through such a phase, about twenty years ago - I was always 
right, judgmental as hell, had it all dialed in, knew exactly where everyone 
else was coming from - a lot like this dude's current trip - and I was the 
loneliest, most miserable soul on the planet, as a result. I doubt he enjoys 
himself much, either.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Barry is the very last person who should be accusing anyone else of poverty of 
imagination. His can't even incorporate the obvious fact of the huge role that 
battle--from mythic and glorious to painfully real and depraved--has played in 
human artistic and intellectual culture throughout history. Much more 
important, to Barry, to attempt to destroy his own perceived opponent with 
spitballs.
 

 But at least, at the end here, he accurately characterizes his own limitations.
 
Barry babbled:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Bhairitu wrote:
 
  On 12/12/2013 04:36 PM, authfriend@... wrote:
  
   I'm of two minds about the use of existing serious music in films.
 On
   one hand, at least moviegoers get some exposure to it. On the other,
   it imposes a kind of sentimentality (positive and/or negative) on
 the
   music that is not native to it and that can impede genuine
   appreciation. The ultimate horrible example, for me, is the use of
   Ride of the Valkyries as background for the atrocities portrayed
 in
   /Apocalypse Now/. It's almost impossible to hear the music without
 the
   mental intrusion of images of helicopters slaughtering innocent
   Vietnamese civilians. Yes, both have to do with battles, but of very
   different types--one mythical and gloriously heroic, the other
 utterly
   depraved.
 
  Coppola was using that piece to mock the war. Coppola's father was a
  professional musician and composer.
 
 The very *idea* that there can be such a thing as mythical and
 gloriously heroic battle reveals a great deal about the person who
 tries to turn *everything* into a battle.
 
 *All* forms of battle reveal nothing more than a poverty of imagination
 and intelligence on the part of the participants.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Sez Barry, for whom what comes to mind are thing things, aptly (if, again, 
inadvertently) proving my point that it's a good idea to pause and reflect 
before posting one's thoughts. ;-)
 

 Barry drivels:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's a complete non sequitur in this context. 
 
 
 Not everything that comes to mind is worth saying. Not everything that 
 comes to mind makes sense. 

 Ah, the definitive Judy-statement. 

Only the things that *her* limited mind can follow are sequiturs, and *can* 
be followed. Only thing things that make sense to *her* are worth posting. 

Everyone should write down to her level.  :-) 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread doctordumbass
Is that like Sing-Sing, only with a lisp?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
I can hardly wait.
 
Share excuses herself:

  Judy, yeah, I was rushing last night to get out the idea. Maybe will expand 
on it today. I'm definitely not a night person! And I don't think I'll ever be 
a *long* poster ha ha. 
 

 
 
 On Thursday, December 12, 2013 10:42 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Yeah, that's a complete non sequitur in this context.
 

 Not everything that comes to mind is worth saying. Not everything that 
comes to mind makes sense. It pays to think about it before you put it out 
there for others to see.
 
Share fumbled:

  Judy, what comes to mind is the To be or not to be speech in Hamlet. It 
can be considered as a creation in and of itself. But certainly it is best 
considered in context of the entire play. 
 

 
 
 On Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:27 PM, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:
 
   Judy and noozguru, I think music for a movie is simply another art form, 
best appreciated on its own merits rather than compared to another context of 
musical creation.  When I think of some of the wonderful music I've encountered 
in movies, I only feel gratitude to those who created it. One of the first 
movies to bring my attention to its score was Chariots of Fire with its 
compositions by Vangelis, who also wrote the haunting music for Year of Living 
Dangerously. Also the music by Maurice Jarre in Peter Weir's Witness. I could 
go on and on but only want to honor the composers who wrote such incredible 
works even though they knew their sounds might play second fiddle to the 
visuals.  
 

 
 
 On Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:36 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Some original movie and TV scores are excellent, worth listening to as music 
for its own sake. Others...not so much. For that matter, there's plenty of 
real popular music as well (e.g., the Beatles). And some musicals have had 
excellent music (much of Rodgers and Hammerstein, also Loesser's Guys and 
Dolls). The song My Boy Bill from RH's Carousel is a full-blown operatic 
aria (performed brilliantly by Gordon MacRae).
 

 My use of the term real music had to do with quality, not genre or medium 
snobbery.
 

 I've been immersed in good classical music (i.e., serious music, not 
restricted to the classical period) literally since I was in the cradle, FWIW. 
My father, himself an amateur musician, was a musical scholar who taught 
college courses in various types of serious music. My sister sang with the 
Boston Symphony Chorus. I've sung with good amateur choruses as well. I'm not 
exactly a neophyte, as you'd know if you listened to the videos I linked to. 
It's all accessible, but I doubt any of it is on any orchestra's top 40 list.
 

 I'm not sure what the background of serious composers has to do with the 
appreciation of their music qua music. Wagner was an anti-Semite. Bach was a 
pain in the butt. Schumann was bipolar and died in a mental asylum. So what? 
Their music is transcendent. So is Mozart's. As far as Amadeus is concerned, it 
has quite a few historical inaccuracies; Mozart was not the inane fop portrayed 
in the movie (or the stage play). But it wouldn't matter if he were.
 

 And BTW, while sponsorship was a factor as late as Mozart's day, its 
importance lessened pretty quickly after that; composers of the Romantic period 
generally didn't have to cater to aristocrats for their income (OTOH, a lot of 
them lived in straitened circumstances).
 

 Yes, it's scandalous that orchestras need to put on so many top-40 type 
concerts in order to have sufficient funding. The neglect of music education in 
public schools is appalling.
 

 I'm of two minds about the use of existing serious music in films. On one 
hand, at least moviegoers get some exposure to it. On the other, it imposes a 
kind of sentimentality (positive and/or negative) on the music that is not 
native to it and that can impede genuine appreciation. The ultimate horrible 
example, for me, is the use of Ride of the Valkyries as background for the 
atrocities portrayed in Apocalypse Now. It's almost impossible to hear the 
music without the mental intrusion of images of helicopters slaughtering 
innocent Vietnamese civilians. Yes, both have to do with battles, but of very 
different types--one mythical and gloriously heroic, the other utterly depraved.
 

 I don't believe any of the music for Zeffirelli's Romeo and Juliet was genuine 
Baroque music, by the way, as opposed to pseudo-Baroque pieces composed for 
the movie. The only previously existing serious music used in the film, as far 
as I'm aware, is from the Liebestod from Wagner's Tristan und Isolde, written 
in the 1850s.
 
Bhairitu wrote:

   Amusing.  I was an honors music student 
 at a major university with composition as my strength.  What was interesting 
was learning how these guys actually came up with their music.  There even are 
some pieces that are adaptations of bar songs of the composer's day.
 
 There really is no venue for serious 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Some Wonderful Installations

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
WOW, Ann, these are wonderful, hard to pick my favorite, thanks for posting.





On Friday, December 13, 2013 9:14 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/34-examples-of-installation-art-that-dont-suck/#ygJAzVhAL09WPvyj.01


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Anyone who actually read the Snopes piece is now laughing their heads off at 
Richard and Share. A real class act, those two. ;-)
 
Share burbled:

  It's good, Richard. I think it's a conspiracy to help us relinquish the 
need for certainty (-: 
 

 
 
 On Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:13 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   We can't even trust Snopes to tell us the truth anymore. Go figure.
 

 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... 
mailto:sharelong60@... wrote:
   Richard, yesterday I filled up the tank. I use 87 since that is what it says 
to use in the owner's manual. But 87 says it has ethanol in it! Now, this is 
what I call a real life zen koan because basically I have to surrender. I have 
to take action and leave the rest up to Life, Universe, God, Whatever!  













 
 
 
 






Re: [FairfieldLife] You#39;ve got mail - problems.

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Actually there are quite a few professionals who have been using Yahoo Mail for 
many years to run their businesses. That's why they're so upset, as you'd know 
if you read their complaints. If I were using it to run my business and had the 
problems they've been having, I'd be upset too.
 

 Oooopsie...
 

 Richard trolled:
 

  Never heard of a professional using Yahoo Mail to run a business. LoL!

 
 On 12/12/2013 11:50 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Hate to tell ya, but I haven't had any trouble with Yahoo Mail at all. ROTFL.
 
 Richard trolled:
 
  Hey, Judy, how's that Yahoo Mail working out for ya? LoL!
 
 A days-long outage for some Yahoo e-mail users is casting a dark shadow over 
a perceived turnaround at the once-mighty Internet player. Some users of Yahoo 
Mail, which underwent a major overhaul over the summer, were still without 
service Thursday from an outage that started late Monday. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes 
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 

 Richard trolled:
 
  It's a conspiracy by the federal government and political operatives like 
Al Gore to screw the public in order to prevent another green company 
bankruptcy. Judy tried to denigrate Share and the Fox news segment based on her 
political ideology and personal animosity toward Share. Then Judy tried to send 
 us to Snope's to read a mixed review. Judy has a problem with telling the 
truth. 
 
 Instead of feeding us junk science she should have just reported the truth 
about ethanol. She fibbed and got caught and now she's in denial mode, and 
everyone knows it. Judy's mis-direction could have caused some car owners 
hundreds of dollars in repairs and been cause for their car warranty being 
dishonered. She should be reported to the group owner for posting fibs and 
mis-information.
 
 The truth is the use of ethanol in automobiles lowers fuel economy because is 
has a lower energy content. Ethanol creates more smog than gasoline and it is 
more expensive to produce and the production of ethanol increases global 
warming emissions. 
 
 The only beneficiaries of ethanol use are repair garages. The real reason for 
ethanol use is by a government mandate. It's just an outrageous scam by the 
federal government and now Judy is a co-spirator to the scam by not being 
totally truthful.
 
 Maybe Judy should just keep her pie hole shut about stuff she doesn't know 
anything about and instead of ankle-biting Share at every message she sends, 
just stick to subjects she is willing to be truthful about. Obviously Judy 
can't be trusted anymore, and I'm beginning to think there are lot's of other 
subjects where her information is also suspect. Go figure. 

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
That's wonderful, Doc. Hope you can send us a picture of it.





On Friday, December 13, 2013 9:09 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 
  
I picked up on it, a long time ago, Ann. Barry can write provocatively, but not 
very intelligently. Despite his belief to the contrary, he is a very 
conventional guy, living mostly on memories. I don't judge him for it, but I 
also don't go for this persona he creates for himself - nor do many others in 
the real world, apparently, since he is posting like crazy to FFL, now that he 
has quit his job.

In other news, I am picking up my motorhome today! So excited, and a bit 
apprehensive about wheeling around something 10 feet wide and 32 feet long - 
but also looking forward to getting out in some wilderness and hanging out. The 
advantage of a self-contained RV is that you can boondock for about ten days - 
camp anywhere, without needing external food, water, electricity or sewer 
facilities.


[FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Took you awhile, Ann, but better late than never. ;-)
 

 snip
 Ann wrote to Barry:
 
 I have finally figured it out. You are not only a war monger but you are 
actually dumb. Anyone who is willing to let stand statements like those you 
just revealed either has no self respect or is just plain old stupid. And what 
is more, you assume we are all as clueless as you are, that we would actually 
give credence to these dolt-headed inanities. I apologize to all the critical 
things I ever said to you Barry, I didn't realize you were, uh, challenged in 
the way I see now. 


 




[FairfieldLife] See what I mean about the battle mentality?

2013-12-13 Thread TurquoiseB
A few obvious trolls from Richard and myself, and Judy and her gang are
in a panty-twisted panic, trying to turn a few tiny things they took
umbrage to into a battle that they can later declare that they've won.

As I suggested before, a form of behavior that is as indicative of low
intelligence and even lower creativity on a small scale as it is when
nations indulge in it...





[FairfieldLife] Do you suffer from triskaidekaphobia?

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
  From a newsletter I receive:
    Apparently a whopping 17 to 21 MILLION Americans do.
And we LOSE between $800 to $900 MILLION in business when that OMINOUS number 
falls on that UNHAPPY day.
Have a happy Friday the 13th anyway!

[FairfieldLife] RE: See what I mean about the quot;battlequot; mentality?

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Oh, Barry, for pete's sake, give it a rest. Better luck next time. The more 
obvious the troll, the easier to turn it against the trollster, then watch him 
sputter amid the ruins, pretending he doesn't know he's being laughed at.
 

 Barry wrote, his hand fumbling desperately at his panties:

  A few obvious trolls from Richard and myself, and Judy and her gang are in 
a panty-twisted panic, trying to turn a few tiny things they took umbrage to 
into a battle that they can later declare that they've won.

As I suggested before, a form of behavior that is as indicative of low 
intelligence and even lower creativity on a small scale as it is when nations 
indulge in it... 






[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Dunno. I think maybe it's a pet name. Or perhaps baby talk. Or both.
 
DoctorDumbass wrote:

  Is that like Sing-Sing, only with a lisp? 



[FairfieldLife] absolutely amazing website about extinct species, What Is Missing?

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
http://whatismissing.net/#/home


Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread sharelong60
hey noozguru, I finally got to visit Murphy's website which is even a treat 
visually! Luckily I found the page on movies. Very creative fellow, I'd say. He 
seems to be a popular musician with movie makers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams
You should have maybe attended one of their concerts, or at least 
listened to one of their albums. Apparently you didn't even listen to 
the one song I posted. It's a pretty good song. Go figure.


On 12/13/2013 8:43 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
The Grateful Dead. Couldn't stand their music then and still can't. I 
thought maybe it would get better with my age but, no. Is it okay for 
me to be grateful that they are almost dead?




[FairfieldLife] RE: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I recall going through such a phase, about twenty years ago - I was always 
right, judgmental as hell, had it all dialed in, knew exactly where everyone 
else was coming from - a lot like this dude's current trip - and I was the 
loneliest, most miserable soul on the planet, as a result. I doubt he enjoys 
himself much, either.
 

 I can totally relate. I think many of us go through this phaseof things, 
where we have this chip on our shoulder, love to find fault in just about 
anything, are as judgmental as hell as you so aptly put it and simply isolate 
ourselves due to our need to be 'independent and original' in our stance (or at 
least to imagine we are). I think this was me in grade 8 through about the time 
I got shmucked and rolled and squashed and stomped on at the end of my time 
with WTS. Coming through those end of days I literally transformed into a much 
kinder, gentler human being. It took a steamroller but it worked. However, I 
know it can turn out the other way too; it can turn people bitter and hard and 
cynical. I think which way it transforms us is part grace and part choice.



[FairfieldLife] RE: Some Wonderful Installations

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Some of these are brilliant. Why don't we see more like this instead of the 
ones that suck?
 
Ann wrote:

 
http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/34-examples-of-installation-art-that-dont-suck/#ygJAzVhAL09WPvyj.01
 
http://www.yourdailymedia.com/post/34-examples-of-installation-art-that-dont-suck/#ygJAzVhAL09WPvyj.01



[FairfieldLife] Fw: The Art of Missing and Maya Lin

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long



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Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/13/2013 9:34 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
Anyone who actually read the Snopes piece is now laughing their heads 
off at Richard and Share. A real class act, those two. ;-)

Yeah, we're laughing our heads off, but at you not at Share. LoL!

Nobody but you said that the Fox News report was not fair and balanced. 
You, on the other hand attempted to mislead, because of your 
ankle-biting toward Share. You were NOT fair and balanced - you were 
petty. Next time, try to put your own spin on the facts and not depend 
on Snopes.


Almost all gasoline sold in the U.S. has some ethanol content. But, some 
progress is being made to get rid of ethanol completely because it gums 
up your fuel system with water retention. Ethanol users experience a 
25–30% drop in miles per gallon due to ethanol’s lower energy content. 
And, it produces more smog and creates higher prices for corn products.


'U.S. Senators introduce bill to eliminate corn ethanol mandate'
Reuters:
http://news.yahoo.com/u-senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate 
http://news.yahoo.com/u-senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate-171800910--finance.html


'The Great Ethanol Scam'
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/ 
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/may2009/bw20090514_058678.htm


'Can E15 Gasoline Really Damage Your Engine?'
Popular Mechanics:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/gasoline-damage-engine 
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/biofuels/e15-gasoline-damage-engine


To determine if your vehicle can use E85, consult your owner’s manual 
or check the inside of your car's fuel filler door for an identification 
sticker.


Ethanol:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml


[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater
You know Barry's next comeback will be how he pushed all of our buttons and 
just look at all of the posts we have made in his honour and because of him and 
his conscious technique to make us all go CRAZY and get our panties in a twist. 
He is poised right now with command V ready to paste his usual Rote Post #44 
from his long list of cookie cutter rants.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Barry is the very last person who should be accusing anyone else of poverty of 
imagination. His can't even incorporate the obvious fact of the huge role that 
battle--from mythic and glorious to painfully real and depraved--has played in 
human artistic and intellectual culture throughout history. Much more 
important, to Barry, to attempt to destroy his own perceived opponent with 
spitballs.
 

 But at least, at the end here, he accurately characterizes his own limitations.
 
Barry babbled:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Bhairitu wrote:
 
  On 12/12/2013 04:36 PM, authfriend@... wrote:
  
   I'm of two minds about the use of existing serious music in films.
 On
   one hand, at least moviegoers get some exposure to it. On the other,
   it imposes a kind of sentimentality (positive and/or negative) on
 the
   music that is not native to it and that can impede genuine
   appreciation. The ultimate horrible example, for me, is the use of
   Ride of the Valkyries as background for the atrocities portrayed
 in
   /Apocalypse Now/. It's almost impossible to hear the music without
 the
   mental intrusion of images of helicopters slaughtering innocent
   Vietnamese civilians. Yes, both have to do with battles, but of very
   different types--one mythical and gloriously heroic, the other
 utterly
   depraved.
 
  Coppola was using that piece to mock the war. Coppola's father was a
  professional musician and composer.
 
 The very *idea* that there can be such a thing as mythical and
 gloriously heroic battle reveals a great deal about the person who
 tries to turn *everything* into a battle.
 
 *All* forms of battle reveal nothing more than a poverty of imagination
 and intelligence on the part of the participants.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/13/2013 9:40 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
*This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.*
What would you know about ethanol use, if all you've done is an internet 
reading of Snopes?


'The Great Ethanol Scam'
http://www.businessweek.com/ethano scam 
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/may2009/bw20090514_058678.htm


[FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater
You took the words right out of my mouth Doc. Maybe it's a little like his idea 
of serial farthing which appeared last summer. I thing he might have a bit of 
a lithp after all.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGAdzn5_KU 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWGAdzn5_KU

 

 Not exactly historical, but...
 
Mike wrote:

  I read a book years ago written from the Indian perspective about the 
Little Big Horn. A doctor was privileged to interview several Lakotas that were 
there. They said that many of the troops committed suicide during the battle 
and they thought it was because of the *firewater* in their canteens. In those 
days it was commonly thought that if you are in a battle with Indians you 
always saved your last bullet for yourself because you dare not be taken alive. 
The Lakotas said very few troops fought bravely and one of them was Custer's 
brother Tom and they attributed that to his *warpaint*, the eagle tattooed on 
his chest.Historical accounts show that Custer had his men on the move for many 
hours, maybe 72 , following Indian sign when he gave the order for his men to 
camp and rest. I would bet that if his men did indeed had whiskey in their 
canteens, they probably started drinking. Sometime later, scouts found the 
Indian camp off on the horizon and showed it to Custer.  A report had just come 
in about the same time that Indians had been seen foraging through some crates 
that had fallen behind on the trail. Custer was afraid the Indians would know 
that he was close and  would scatter. So he called *boots and saddles* and 
pressed his exhausted men and horses to break camp and attack. I would assume 
his men and horses were not only exhausted but probably many were drunk as 
well. They didn't stand a chance. It is estimated that there probably were  at 
least a thousand warriors and many were better armed, with repeating rifles, 
than Custer's men who were armed with single shot carbines and ammunition that 
constantly jammed and prevented quick reloading. One Indian said the whole 
battle took about as long as it takes a hungry man to eat his dinner.
 

 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater
I know, sorry. It's just that I tend to want to exhaust all other explanations 
for an aberration of nature than the most likely one - stupidity. I like to 
think nature is more creative than that.


[FairfieldLife] RE: See what I mean about the quot;battlequot; mentality?

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater
Here it is, the post I had predicted. Rote post response #44.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes 
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 

 Richard trolled:
 
 On 12/13/2013 9:34 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Anyone who actually read the Snopes piece is now laughing their heads off at 
Richard and Share. A real class act, those two. ;-) Yeah, we're laughing our 
heads off, but at you not at Share. LoL!
 
 Nobody but you said that the Fox News report was not fair and balanced. You, 
on the other hand attempted to mislead, because of your ankle-biting toward 
Share. You were NOT fair and balanced - you were petty. Next time, try to put 
your own spin on the facts and not depend on Snopes.
 
 Almost all gasoline sold in the U.S. has some ethanol content. But, some 
progress is being made to get rid of ethanol completely because it gums up your 
fuel system with water retention. Ethanol users experience a 25–30% drop in 
miles per gallon due to ethanol’s lower energy content. And, it produces more 
smog and creates higher prices for corn products.
 
 'U.S. Senators introduce bill to eliminate corn ethanol mandate'
 Reuters:
 http://news.yahoo.com/u-senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate 
http://news.yahoo.com/u-senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate-171800910--finance.html
 
 'The Great Ethanol Scam'
 http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/ 
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/may2009/bw20090514_058678.htm
 
 'Can E15 Gasoline Really Damage Your Engine?'
 Popular Mechanics:
 http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/gasoline-damage-engine 
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/alternative-fuel/biofuels/e15-gasoline-damage-engine
 
 To determine if your vehicle can use E85, consult your owner’s manual or 
check the inside of your car's fuel filler door for an identification sticker.
 
 Ethanol:
 http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml 
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/ethanol.shtml
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 You should have maybe attended one of their concerts, or at least listened to 
one of their albums. Apparently you didn't even listen to the one song I 
posted. It's a pretty good song. Go figure.
 
Why would I attend a concert when I hated their music? Hearing it live was only 
going to add to the agony. At least at home I could turn it off or not listen 
at all. Of course you think it was a good song, you posted it. Just 'cause you 
did that doesn't mean I'm gonna like it any better. Sorry.
 On 12/13/2013 8:43 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
 The Grateful Dead. Couldn't stand their music then and still can't. I thought 
maybe it would get better with my age but, no. Is it okay for me to be grateful 
that they are almost dead? 
 



[FairfieldLife] photo memes of 2013

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
http://news.yahoo.com/year-in-review/2013-viral-photos-and-memes-list/


Re: [FairfieldLife] photo memes of 2013

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
http://news.yahoo.com/year-in-review/2013-viral-photos-and-memes-list/




On Friday, December 13, 2013 10:37 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
http://news.yahoo.com/year-in-review/2013-viral-photos-and-memes-list/


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu

On 12/12/2013 11:41 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


 Bhairitu asked:
 
  How do you define real music?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, the non-musician said to the
musician:

 I know it when I hear it.

To quote someone else on this forum, That's what I was afraid she'd
say. :-)

As for the non-musician's ability to know anything, see my previous
post. :-)



The term real music sounds curious to a trained musician's ear because 
they no there is no such thing as real music.  It's a fan term.  
Musicians, especially composers, can be as intrigued with the simple 
made up tune of a mountain goat herder as with the complex 
orchestrations of the great composers.  Real music sounds like a term 
that someone who is insecure about their choice of music would use 
because they need the good musickeeping seal of approval for their 
music choices. :-D


Not to say that some of the music linked isn't wonderful.  I could 
probably link to some other pieces that are admired by professionals 
that some folks here might hate.  You gotta appreciate the works of John 
Cage too.


I noted your post about the music generated by Wikipedia editing.  I 
call that a sound piece and not actually music though someone has 
crafted the scales used so there is almost no dissonance.  Musicians are 
often experimenting with such things to come up with new and different 
ideas.  A few years ago I noticed that after listening to 5 or 10 
minutes of Tibetan Gamelan music I heard western music in a different 
light.  It almost deprogrammed me of any association which images we get 
when we listen to music.




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
Almost as interesting as playing the same bill with the Airplane at a 
couple of concerts and hanging out with them. ;-)


On 12/12/2013 08:31 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:
Re I first saw [Airplane] at the first Human Be-In held in Golden 
Gate Park in 1967 and later at Chet Helm's Family Dog venue in San 
Francisco and at the Avalon Ballroom. :
You lucky sod. I'd have loved that. There's a great clip of a 
pre-Slick Airplane at the Fillmore Auditorium in 1966. Looks fun. (Are 
you in the audience?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWxaW7WxUL4


  Grace Slick  The Great Society playing live were also impressive.

My favourite Airplane (cum-Starship) album was Blows Against the 
Empire. The last hurrah for hippiedom.







[FairfieldLife] RE: Fw: The Art of Missing and Maya Lin

2013-12-13 Thread emilymaenot
Jay Inslee, a former senator, is the governor of Washington now.  Wonder if he 
knows he made the Daily Good.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What People Eat

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
I've mentioned the pros of the Cuisinart sandwich maker the Con would be 
that it wanted too small a piece of bread even suggesting you might want 
to cut off the crusts to make it fit.  It also does two sandwiches at 
once which I didn't need but that is actually no problem.  Given these 
are simple inexpensive devices I might try some of the other ones too.


Large manufacturers usually have different teams designing products.  
Some of the teams are good at and some not so.  It's always interesting 
to know the story under the hood.


On 12/12/2013 05:48 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:

My most recent experience with Cuisinart is my new coffee maker. It 
got a great review on Consumer Reports, and the Amazon reviews 
remarked on how well it brews coffee. But, also mentioned many times 
on Amazon is the crappy latch mechanism on the lid. I figured the 
problem was a mixture of poor design and ham-fisted users, and being a 
more graceful and careful person, I assumed the latch mechanism would 
hold up under my gentle touch. WRONG! That latch was busted within two 
weeks. Fortunately, the fix is simple: I use a red brick to keep the 
lid closed during brewing (the hinge is spring loaded, and with the 
latch broken, the lid won't stay down.)


When this machine inevitably dies some day, will I consider getting 
another Cuisinart? You betcha! 'Cuz despite the stupid latch, the 
machine makes really good coffee!


I love homemade waffles. I bought a Cuisinart waffle maker, you know 
the good old fashioned round shape, and I could have chucked it out 
after a one-time use. The handle was so badly designed that you were 
bound to burn yourself lifting it up no matter how careful you were. 
The mechanism for letting you know when the waffle was ready and when 
the iron was hot enough was never clear so it would ding and actually 
mean the iron was up to temperature apparently because if I lifted the 
lid when the bell went off it turned out the waffles were still raw. 
In addition, you could never pry the damn thing out from between its 
jaws without using a fork and a knife to try and perform the 
equivalent of brain surgery in extricating the stuck thing. by the 
time you actually got it all out it was in sixty pieces with the 
remaining 50% still stuck to the iron. I hated that waffle maker with 
a passion and would never buy another one by that company.






[FairfieldLife] RE: Unanswered question

2013-12-13 Thread s3raphita
Re The average lifespan in the Middle Ages was 30, meaning that fewer than 
half the humans born reached that age. :

 

 Average lifespans are a dodgy statistic as in older societies with their very 
high infant-mortality rates that can badly skew the figures.
 

 Japanese novelist Yukio Mishima always looked back with nostalgia to the Roman 
period when most people died young - that way, he claimed,  life was always 
lived at an ecstatic pitch. Mishima was turned on by the thought of gladiator 
fights so he may not be a good guide! 
 

 He said: “Ours is an age in which everything is based on the premise that it 
is best to live as long as possible. The average life span has become the 
longest in history, and a monotonous plan for humanity unrolls before us.”  
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread emilymaenot
Share, Sarah Chang on violin:  Carmen Fantasy - video is great, imho.  
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kogUk6Hnbs 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kogUk6Hnbs



[FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-13 Thread s3raphita
Re In those days it was commonly thought that if you are in a battle with 
Indians you always saved your last bullet for yourself because you dare not be 
taken alive.:

 

 Abso-bloody-lutely! The Indians weren't the cuddly ethnics the PC crowd would 
have you believe.
 

 From Wiki: 
 The torture [of captives] had strong sacrificial overtones, usually to the 
sun. Captives were expected to show extreme self-control and composure during 
torture, singing death songs, bragging of one's courage or deeds in battle, 
and otherwise showing defiance. The torture was conducted publicly in the 
captors' village, and the entire population (including children) watched and 
participated. Common torture techniques included burning the captive- which was 
done one hot coal at a time, rather than the Hollywood-style pile of firewood 
around the captive - cuts from knives, beatings with switches and jabs from 
sharp sticks. Prisoners' fingernails were ripped out. Their fingers were 
broken, then twisted and yanked by children. Captives were made to eat pieces 
of their own flesh, and were scalped alive. To make the torture last longer, 
the Native Americans would revive captives with rest periods during which time 
they were given food and water. Tortures would begin with the lower limbs, then 
gradually spread to the arms, then the torso. The Native Americans spoke of 
caressing the prisoners gently at first, which meant that the initial 
tortures were designed to cause pain, but only minimal bodily harm. By these 
means, the execution of a captive, especially an adult male, could take several 
days and nights.

 

 Yep, I'd be taking that cyanide pill!


[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread s3raphita
Almost as interesting as playing the same bill with the Airplane at a couple of 
concerts and hanging out with them. ;-) 

 

 What was your band called?
 

 



[FairfieldLife] Global warming hits again-Cairo gets SNOW!

2013-12-13 Thread wgm4u
Snow closes roads in Israel, is a source of wonder in Cairo 

http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-snow-israel-egypt-20131213,0,1691393.story#ixzz2nNTqMYkq
 
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-snow-israel-egypt-20131213,0,1691393.story#ixzz2nNTqMYkq


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
Er, no, sorry. Remember the level of musical education of the person to whom I 
was speaking when I used the term, and with reference to what piece (I know you 
like it, but I thought it was really pretty drab).
 

 BTW, some of the great composers were also intrigued by found music and 
primitive tunes, folk music, spirituals, and so on, using them in important 
pieces (e.g., Dvorak's New World Symphony).
 

 Bhairitu wrote:
 

  The term real music sounds curious to a trained musician's ear because 
they no there is no such thing as real music.  It's a fan term.  Musicians, 
especially composers, can be as intrigued with the simple made up tune of a 
mountain goat herder as with the complex orchestrations of the great composers. 
 Real music sounds like a term that someone who is insecure about their 
choice of music would use because they need the good musickeeping seal of 
approval for their music choices. :-D  
 Not to say that some of the music linked isn't wonderful.  I could probably 
link to some other pieces that are admired by professionals that some folks 
here might hate.  You gotta appreciate the works of John Cage too.
 
 I noted your post about the music generated by Wikipedia editing.  I call that 
a sound piece and not actually music though someone has crafted the scales 
used so there is almost no dissonance.  Musicians are often experimenting with 
such things to come up with new and different ideas.  A few years ago I noticed 
that after listening to 5 or 10 minutes of Tibetan Gamelan music I heard 
western music in a different light.  It almost deprogrammed me of any 
association which images we get when we listen to music.
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu

On 12/13/2013 09:37 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Almost as interesting as playing the same bill with the Airplane at a 
couple of concerts and hanging out with them. ;-)



What was your band called?



Magic Fern.  You've never heard of them unless you saw the movie 
Strange Wilderness with Steve Zahn and produced by Adam Sadler's 
company where our 1967 single of Maggie is heard on the soundtrack.  
We were a regional band who opened for a lot of acts in the Seattle area 
and made one foray to play California Hall in San Francisco during the 
Summer of Love opening for the Youngbloods. We opened for the Airplane 
in Portland and Vancouver BC.  The Byrds were also on the bill in 
Portland. Roger McGuinn had a cassette of the Sargent Pepper album the 
Beatles had given him pre-release so we sat around listening to it with 
Grace Slick and Marty Balin.










RE: [FairfieldLife] Global warming hits again-Cairo gets SNOW!

2013-12-13 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:44 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Global warming hits again-Cairo gets SNOW!

 

  

Snow closes roads in Israel, is a source of wonder in Cairo

 
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-snow-israel-egypt-20131213,0,1691393.story#ixzz2nNTqMYkq
 
http://www.latimes.com/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-snow-israel-egypt-20131213,0,1691393.story#ixzz2nNTqMYkq

Consistent with climate change predictions. Very short article with graph: 
http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-cold-weather.htm





[FairfieldLife] RE: Mandela: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

2013-12-13 Thread s3raphita
Thamsanqa Jantjie, 34, who was found to have signed nonsense during the 
four-hour ceremony as he stood next to a number of heads of state including US 
President Barack Obama, has been treated for schizophrenia, was reportedly 
charged with murder in 2003, as well as rape in 1994, theft in 1995, breaking 
into a house in 1997, malicious damage to property in 1998, and attempted 
murder and kidnapping in 2003.
 

 What do you have to do to *not* get security clearance these days?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread s3raphita
Grace Slick and Marty Balin - both powerful singers.

 You get 18 thumbs up and 0 thumbs down on YouTube.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQ0HiypYf4 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQ0HiypYf4



Re: [FairfieldLife] Suicide Bombers Are Criminals

2013-12-13 Thread jr_esq
They are their own judge and executioner.  And, for sure they won't get the 72 
virgins that was promised to them.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Emily, I agree, it's a great video and it's obvious that she is an 
amazing artist. But oy, when she hits those high notes, for me it's almost like 
fingernails on a blackboard!





On Friday, December 13, 2013 11:36 AM, emilymae...@yahoo.com 
emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Share, Sarah Chang on violin:  Carmen Fantasy - video is great, imho.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kogUk6Hnbs



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread s3raphita
So are you aged and grey?
 

 Magic Fern  
 Seattle, Washington  1966 - 1967
 MembersMike Allan ~ Bass  
 Brian Conrad ~ Drums  
 Tim Cooley ~ Bass  
 Tom Sparks ~ Guitar  
 Mike Waters ~ Guitar
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: Mandela: Deaf Signer Was a Fake!

2013-12-13 Thread jr_esq
S3,
 

 It's also reported that the company officers who hired this fake have vanished 
as well.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread emilymaenot
Thank you Judy.  This is a good article on Pollini in the WSJ, April 2013.  
 

 
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324874204578440571761520316 
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324874204578440571761520316



[FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread emilymaenot
Well, I guess I'll admit that I couldn't get into the Grateful Dead either in a 
real way, although I warmed to them at a certain point.  On a musically 
unrelated point, I never liked Neal Young either; his voice stresses me out.  
Jethro Tull, OTOH, rocked my world.  


[FairfieldLife] RE: Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread emilymaenot
Congratulations Jim!  The wilderness awaits you.  


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/13/2013 10:33 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except 
Xeno) takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, 
let me know.
You can pretty much tell when Judy has been caught in a big mistake - 
that's when she whips out her macro key to try to cover up her fibbing. 
This gal's ego is so big she can't admit an error when it's right in 
front of her. Judy must think that by citing Snopes, she's an expert on 
vehicle fueling.


I'm sure this won't be lost on Share, Barry, and Zeno.

But, it does make one wonder why she'd pick the corn ethanol scam to 
ankle-bite Share - it's got to be more than the fact that Judy doesn't 
like Fox News. It's especially bizarre when you consider that it's 
Democrats like Diane Feinstein that want to repeal the corn-based 
ethanol part of the alternative fuels mandate. Go figure.


The EPA proposed cutting the overall 2014 mandate to 15.21 billion 
gallons, about 16 percent less than the current 2014 mandate's 18.15 
billion gallons, and below this year's requirement of 16.55 billion 
gallons.


'U.S. Senators introduce bill to eliminate corn ethanol mandate'
Reuters:
http://reuters_news/senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate 
http://news.yahoo.com/u-senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate-171800910--finance.html


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
Probably the best studio recording of the group was done by Elektra 
Records who sent a producer, Barry Friedman (aka Frasier Mohawk), up to 
Seattle to cut some demo tracks.  They thought we were a bit  ahead of 
the times.  You won't get that from listening to Maggie or much of the 
Jerden cuts. That company was run by a guy whose business was losing 
money on recordings as a tax write-off for rich folks.  He did have 
enough of a soul that if an act was really good to try to sell off the 
contract to a major label.  He sent me to Hollywood where I met with 
major labels interested. And he also cut loose Danny O'Keefe who had a 
hit with Good Time Charlie's Got the Blues.  I also played in Danny's 
band sometimes.


Some background about some of the bands on the CD label shown on 
YouTube.  Crome Syrcus was a bunch of U of W fellow music students.  
They went with Scientology. Talented guys though.  The Bards were more 
bubble gum trying to capitalize on the Paul Revere and the Raiders 
popularity.  P.H. Factor Jug band were dropouts from Reed College in 
Portland and had an FBI entourage following them around (I noted at one 
be-in the FBI agents were more interested in taking pictures of the 
girls in bikinis than the band).  Bluebird was the band of another 
Seattle friend.  Brave New World was headed by a guy who was in the 
first band I had back in the early 1960s.


The Jerden library is owned by one of your locals Fairwood Music and I 
see the listing on IMDB has been updated to mention the recording was 
licensed through the Spirit Music Group.  Most of the recordings made by 
Jerden were demo cuts.  There are some live recordings of the band 
floating around that show it off much better.


On 12/13/2013 10:10 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


Grace Slick and Marty Balin - both powerful singers.

You get 18 thumbs up and 0 thumbs down on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGQ0HiypYf4






[FairfieldLife] Space and Time Not Real?

2013-12-13 Thread anartaxius
1. Physicists have discovered a jewel-like geometric object that dramatically 
simplifies calculations of particle interactions and challenges the notion that 
space and time are fundamental components of reality.

 

https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130917-a-jewel-at-the-heart-of-quantum-physics/
 
https://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20130917-a-jewel-at-the-heart-of-quantum-physics/
 
 

 

 2. In publishing a story regarding work reported by Japanese physicists last 
month, Nature News has set off a bit of a tabloid firestorm by describing an 
obscure bit of physics theory as the clearest evidence yet that our Universe 
could be just one big projection. In two papers uploaded to the preprint 
server arXiv, Yoshifumi Hyakutake and colleagues from Ibaraki University in 
Japan offer evidence that supports a theory that suggests that a universe as we 
conceive of it could actually be a hologram of another two-dimensional space.
 

 http://phys.org/news/2013-12-credence-theory-universe-hologram.html 
http://phys.org/news/2013-12-credence-theory-universe-hologram.html




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/13/2013 10:36 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

At least at home I could turn it off or not listen at all.
The Grateful Dead had only one single hit recording that was played on 
AM radio, Touch of Grey, from the album In the Dark, back in 1987, 
the year they toured with Bob Dylan.


I could be wrong about this, but I just can't imagine you sitting down 
with a record player and listening to all twenty-two Grateful Dead vinyl 
albums, when you didn't eve like their one hit record. Maybe you could 
explain this, Ann.


I'm not a Deadhead by any stretch, but your comments about the band 
doesn't even make any sense. Why would you want the remaining members 
dead just because you don't like one of their songs? For some reason, 
you're making this real personal. Like I said, it's not about the 
personalities - it's about the music. Go figure.


So, with all due respect, I think I'll go with the editors at Rolling 
Stone, who rated the band number 57 in their list of the Greatest 
Artists of All Time.





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
Not really.  My next door neighbor was surprised at my age because he 
thought I was in my early 50s. Benefits of meditation (because it slows 
the metabolism).  His sister played in some of the San Francisco rock 
bands.  Actually he's 10 years older than me but looks more like someone 
my age.


Two of us became TM teachers with the other guy surprising me by showing 
up on the second phase of my TTC.  Last I heard he went Jesus though.  
One of the other guys was went Jesus too.  The bass player in the 
picture is Mike Allan who replaced Tim Cooley after he got into a wreck 
using the Greatful Dead's rented U-Haul.  I often wondered if the truck 
had been tampered with to get rid of the Dead.  They let him borrow it 
to move his girlfriend's stuff. Fortunately he only broke his leg but it 
laid him up and his parents were pissed at him being in a psychedelic 
rock band so couldn't return.


On 12/13/2013 10:24 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:


So are you aged and grey?


Magic Fern

Seattle, Washington  1966 - 1967

MembersMike Allan ~ Bass

Brian Conrad ~ Drums

Tim Cooley ~ Bass

Tom Sparks ~ Guitar

Mike Waters ~ Guitar







Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread emilymaenot
Yes, I hear you, although I get a little thrill out of it today.  This is why 
my father did not allow me to learn the violin; it was the right choice, 
really.   


Re: [FairfieldLife] See what I mean about the battle mentality?

2013-12-13 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 12/13/2013 9:47 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
*/A few obvious trolls from Richard and myself, and Judy and her gang 
are in a panty-twisted panic/*
Let's see, so far today Judy called me a liar and a troll for pointing 
out the facts about corn based ethanol, and Ann posted that she wished 
the remaining members of the Grateful Dead to be dead as well because I 
poated a link to a Dead song. Now Judy has her macro key running at full 
speed and Ann thinks she's heard all the Dead albums on AM radio. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: car older than 2012? Don't use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
The truth about ethanol is that it is a by product of corn production 
that was considered just waste.  So it's about the money.


Same with fluoride which doesn't need to be in our water and may be 
making us fat and dumb.  A waste product of aluminum production,  Some 
cities are beginning to get rid of it much to Alcoa's chagrin.  Don't 
tell your city council that though.  They probably love the perks they 
get from Alcoa.


A local friend worked on the global warming project at Livermore Labs 
which was headed by a scientist who worked on the Manhattan Project.  He 
said the press were always bugging them about whether global warming was 
real or not and to tell the truth there was no conclusive evidence.  He 
has told me one thing they learned is you can never tell what clouds are 
going to do.  That's why you can have a forecast for rain but the clouds 
don't produce or even show up.


The term has been changed from global warming to climate change 
because folks don't understand how the melting ice caps can produce 
colder weather. HOWEVER, the Sun has been going through a low period of 
inactivity and the last time this happened the earth had a mini ice 
age.  We were supposed to get warmer weather this part of the week.  Not 
yet.  This unpredictableness may make scientists look as lame as the 
climate change deniers. This also means that those Pentagon warnings 
about an ice age for the northern hemisphere that I reported here 
several years ago are proving to be true.


On 12/13/2013 06:02 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


It's a conspiracy by the federal government and political operatives 
like Al Gore to screw the public in order to prevent another green 
company bankruptcy. Judy tried to denigrate Share and the Fox news 
segment based on her political ideology and personal animosity toward 
Share. Then Judy tried to send us to Snope's to read a mixed review. 
Judy has a problem with telling the truth.


Instead of feeding us junk science she should have just reported the 
truth about ethanol. She fibbed and got caught and now she's in denial 
mode, and everyone knows it. Judy's mis-direction could have caused 
some car owners hundreds of dollars in repairs and been cause for 
their car warranty being dishonered. She should be reported to the 
group owner for posting fibs and mis-information.


The truth is the use of ethanol in automobiles lowers fuel economy 
because is has a lower energy content. Ethanol creates more smog than 
gasoline and it is more expensive to produce and the production of 
ethanol increases global warming emissions.


The only beneficiaries of ethanol use are repair garages. The real 
reason for ethanol use is by a government mandate. It's just an 
outrageous scam by the federal government and now Judy is a 
co-spirator to the scam by not being totally truthful.


Maybe Judy should just keep her pie hole shut about stuff she doesn't 
know anything about and instead of ankle-biting Share at every message 
she sends, just stick to subjects she is willing to be truthful about. 
Obviously Judy can't be trusted anymore, and I'm beginning to think 
there are lot's of other subjects where her information is also 
suspect. Go figure.


On 12/13/2013 6:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 It's good, Richard. I think it's a conspiracy to help us relinquish 
the need for certainty (-:


*/And thus a good thing. If there is any human quality that 
epitomizes the *lowest* possible survival skill, the trait that's 
pretty much *guaranteed* to make you a recipient of the Darwin 
Awards, it's certainty. :-)



/*








[FairfieldLife] Re: Big Bang totally unnecessary

2013-12-13 Thread jr_esq
Jason,
 

 It appears that you're up to date to the latest popular theories in cosmology. 
 You may also be familiar with John Haglin's cosmological theory.  I believe 
this theory would explain the virtual particles that you're wondering about.  
These particles could come from the unified field.
 

 As mentioned earlier in this thread, the space-time continuum is based on 
consciousness.  IOW, it takes a Knower to conceive of length, width, height and 
time.  Without this Knower or consciousness, no thing, no where, no time can 
exist.
 

 You've pointed out very well the weaknesses of the infinite universe concept.  
However, it does make me wonder what it would be like to have an infinite 
duplicate of ourselves.
 

 Be that as it may seem, it's more likely that the universe is finite.  As 
theorized by Leonard Susskind and other scientists, the universe may be based 
on holograpic principles as well as being finite.  For this reason, I believe 
that you, me and all the other humans are holographic reflections of the 
universe.  As such, there may be billions of other humanoids living in 
earthlike planets throughout the universe.
 

 Unfortunately, due to our present technology, it may be almost impossible to 
have contact with them or even to visit the nearest star in the Milky Way.  But 
if a warp drive can be developed, then the ideas in Star Trek can be realized.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 100 Great Rock Artists

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu

On 12/13/2013 06:43 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:





---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard Williams wrote:


 The Grateful Dead

 Rolling Stone ranked them 57th in the list of the Greatest
Artists of all
 Time. I attended several Dead performances in San Francisco in
1966 at the
 Fillmore Auditorium and at the Avalon Ballroom along with Owsley
Stanley.
 The Dead are listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as
performing the
 most rock concerts - 2,318 concerts.

*/The Dead are also the most recorded musical group in history. This 
is because they never felt propietary about their live music, 
feeling as if it was created in the moment and belonged to the moment, 
so they allowed fans to record the concerts. They even provided jacks 
off the sound system so that the early arrivers could get the best 
quality recordings. As a result, there are very few of those 2,318 
concerts that are *not* available somewhere. /*

*/
/*
The Grateful Dead. Couldn't stand their music then and still can't. I 
thought maybe it would get better with my age but, no. Is it okay for 
me to be grateful that they are almost dead?


They were a dance band.  They couldn't understand at the Seattle concert 
why people were sitting listening to them as a concert rather than 
dancing.  Most of their tunes were long jams and sometimes lacked much 
arc.  The last time I saw them was in the 1990s where the Oakland 
Coliseum got turned into one giant bong. Bob Weir lives in this town.


BTW, a lot of these bands had a history of playing in early 1960s rock 
bands at roller rinks, etc for Saturday night teen dances.





Re: [FairfieldLife] You#39;ve got mail - problems.

2013-12-13 Thread Bhairitu
Depends.  The account I'm using here is Yahoo Mail though it didn't 
start out that way.  SBC Global when becoming ATT had Yahoo run their 
email.  I have my own accounts connected with my web host though.  It 
was running funny the other day much to their chagrin of their customers.


On 12/13/2013 05:26 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:


Never heard of a professional using Yahoo Mail to run a business. LoL!

On 12/12/2013 11:50 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:


*Hate to tell ya, but I haven't had any trouble with Yahoo Mail at 
all. ROTFL.*


*
Richard trolled:
*
 Hey, Judy, how's that Yahoo Mail working out for ya? LoL!

A days-long outage for some Yahoo e-mail users is casting a dark 
shadow over a perceived turnaround at the once-mighty Internet 
player. Some users of Yahoo Mail, which underwent a major overhaul 
over the summer, were still without service Thursday from an outage 
that started late Monday. 









Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-13 Thread authfriend
This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) takes 
Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know.
 

 Richard trolled:
 

 On 12/13/2013 10:33 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 This is all trolling, stuff Richard made up. If anyone here (except Xeno) 
takes Richard seriously enough to want a detailed refutation, let me know. You 
can pretty much tell when Judy has been caught in a big mistake - that's when 
she whips out her macro key to try to cover up her fibbing. This gal's ego is 
so big she can't admit an error when it's right in front of her. Judy must 
think that by citing Snopes, she's an expert on vehicle fueling.
 
 I'm sure this won't be lost on Share, Barry, and Zeno.
 
 But, it does make one wonder why she'd pick the corn ethanol scam to 
ankle-bite Share - it's got to be more than the fact that Judy doesn't like Fox 
News. It's especially bizarre when you consider that it's Democrats like Diane 
Feinstein that want to repeal the corn-based ethanol part of the alternative 
fuels mandate. Go figure. 
 
 The EPA proposed cutting the overall 2014 mandate to 15.21 billion gallons, 
about 16 percent less than the current 2014 mandate's 18.15 billion gallons, 
and below this year's requirement of 16.55 billion gallons.
 
 'U.S. Senators introduce bill to eliminate corn ethanol mandate'
 Reuters:
 http://reuters_news/senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate 
http://news.yahoo.com/u-senators-introduce-bill-eliminate-corn-ethanol-mandate-171800910--finance.html
 



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