[FairfieldLife] Rare video of Judy reacting to Share and Richard getting attention

2014-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33





[FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-02 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Wow!   Where does this stand now?  Does Maharishi's guy have an inside track 
now? Is there now any defference or are they still fighting?  Follow the money? 
 Nadir Ram apparently recently appealed to [a] the shankaracharya to rule on 
his legitimacy as heir to TM around the recent revolt of Mother Divine within 
TM.  Which Shankaracharya is his guy?   This article cited was from 2003.  What 
up now?  Who is our guy?
 -Buck


[FairfieldLife] Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread cardemaister
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23877/Default.aspx 
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23877/Default.aspx

[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread cardemaister
Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim

The Hebrew letters are:

Yod (Y: prolly with an unwritten nikkud tsere or segol = e), Hey (H), Vav 
(holem vav = o), Sin/Shin (here: sh), Vav (shureq = u) and the silent Ayin 
(followed by holem vav = 'o' of 'omdim', but as such here prolly
with unwritten patach = a)??

[FairfieldLife] RE: Maharishi Patanjali Ashtanga Yoga

2014-01-02 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Awesome!! Maharishi giving punches to the body of yoga studios! Talk about 
spiritual regeneration movement, Pow! Bam! Zing! Limbs of yoga, not steps! .. 
 Yoga is way more than posturing.
 
 -Buck in the Dome 
 


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqfs24_2SvY 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqfs24_2SvY



[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread dhamiltony2k5
A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, he surprised his followers 
when he told them that he met the Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his 
synagogue on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the 
Messiah. He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel 
Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a 
massive stroke more than a year ago.) Other rabbis predict the same, including 
Rabbi Haim Cohen, kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim Kneiveskzy.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote:

 http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23877/Default.aspx 
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23877/Default.aspx



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 4:29 PM, Share Long wrote:

  Richard, I always thought that Jesus rose from the
  dead body and spirit.
 
According to what I've read, Jesus was raised from the dead - the key 
word here is risen - he rose up from the dead inside the tomb - in 
body AND spirit - he left the tomb by flying out and then he hovered in 
front of Mary Magdalene so she could see him. Then, he flew up into the 
sky to go meet the apostles in Galilee. That's what I think.

  I mean, wasn't the tomb empty?!
 
The tomb was found to be empty because Jesus had flown out of there 
through the solid rock. Were you thinking that Jesus rolled back the 
stone and walked out naked and and then he hitch hiked a ride across the 
desert in a bullock cart? Does that sound like something a risen Christ 
would do in order to save the world - walk around naked and bow and 
scrape in front of all the people in the fish market?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Share Long
Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking about 
it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. And 
that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone!

but but but...if he was already in a bullock cart, why was he still hitchhiking 
across the desert?! Was he hoping for a better ride? Maybe a camel or a Roman 
chariot?

As for saving the world, maybe at that point after resurrection, he thought 
he'd make a career change. I mean, what with the crucifixion and all!





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:33 AM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  
On 1/1/2014 4:29 PM, Share Long wrote:

 Richard, I always thought that Jesus rose from the
 dead body and spirit.

According to what I've read, Jesus was raised from the dead - the key 
word here is risen - he rose up from the dead inside the tomb - in 
body AND spirit - he left the tomb by flying out and then he hovered in 
front of Mary Magdalene so she could see him. Then, he flew up into the 
sky to go meet the apostles in Galilee. That's what I think.

 I mean, wasn't the tomb empty?!

The tomb was found to be empty because Jesus had flown out of there 
through the solid rock. Were you thinking that Jesus rolled back the 
stone and walked out naked and and then he hitch hiked a ride across the 
desert in a bullock cart? Does that sound like something a risen Christ 
would do in order to save the world - walk around naked and bow and 
scrape in front of all the people in the fish market?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
  No surprise, Share. You simply aren't big enough or
  brave enough to admit your pal has been dishonest,
  despite all the evidence.
 
Everyone knows that you don't believe in the Bible as history.

So, I don't know what your problem is - everyone knows that  Jesus as 
the Christ could fly up into the air. Paul said that Jesus appeared to 
hover in the sky above 500 people. Jesus Christ could walk on water! You 
don't seem to have learned anything in the past thirty years. The first 
phase of lying is to be able to hover. Even some magicians can fly - 
Simon Magus flew up into the air - it says so in the Bible. So, we know 
of at least one fellow before Jesus could levitate.

Birds fly; angels can fly; MMY said even you could fly. But first, 
you're going to have to leave behind all your preconceived notions about 
being a Siddha. Apparently you've got a long way to go before lift off. 
Go figure.

So, maybe you're mistaken - there could be other witnesses to the 
resurrection that you don't even know about. For example, TMer angels 
could have been inside the tomb, who have flew into the tomb, unseen by 
the likes of you. If you're relying on the Biblical and scriptural 
testimony of others, who may have been in error in the themselves in the 
past, then your present sources of information could also be in error. 
You could be wrong. Heaven forbid!

You are not even making any sense. You are acting just like a poser. You 
have added NOTHING to this conversation except to try and prove that 
Luke didn't mention Mary Magdalene by name. It has already been 
established by the other apostles that Mary was the first to see the 
risen Christ. So, obviously Luke was mistaken. Are you calling Luke, the 
author of a Christian Gospel, a liar?

What exactly is your point?


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
VARANASI - The Dwarikapeeth Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand today 
asked the beleaguered Kanchi Kamakoti Peeth Shankaracharya Swami 
Jayendra Saraswati to step down from his post until proved innocent by 
the court of law in an alleged murder case. The seer must step down 
from the post of Shankaracharya of Kanchi Kamakotipeeth until he is 
absolved by the court of the charges against him in the Shankaraman 
murder case, he told reporters here.

If a public representative or a minister was required to quit his post 
for alleged complicity in a criminal or murder case, then why not 
Shankaracharya also quit his post, he asked. Stepping up his attack on 
the incarcerated spritual leader, Swaroopanand also questioned the 
former's credentials as Shankaracharya of the Kanchi Kamakotipeeth and 
said that how could he claim to be a Shankaracharya when the Kanchi 
Kamakoti Peeth was not annointed as one of the four peeths of the Hindu 
religion.

The adi Shankaracharya's had founded only four peeths, Puri, Dwarka, 
Shrinegeri and Badrika Ashram Peeth and there was no Peeth of Kanchi 
Kamkoti in the original order, he said adding Swami Jayendra was a mere 
priest of a mutt.

Source:

'Dwarikapeeth Shankaracharya asks Kanchi Seer to step down'
Outlook India, December 2, 2004


[FairfieldLife] RE: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi#39;s Nephew Arrested on Rape Charge - The New Indian Express

2014-01-02 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om, there is something rotten around TM in India?
 
 
 “Complainant's husband on Saturday came out with the pictures of Narayan Sai, 
son of controversial godman Asaram, with Varma and reiterated that the two are 
no different in many terms.”
 
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-12-29/bhopal/45674633_1_girish-chandra-varma-controversial-godman-asaram-narayan-sai
 
http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-12-29/bhopal/45674633_1_girish-chandra-varma-controversial-godman-asaram-narayan-sai
 
 
 
 
 

 

 Girish Varma in the news again?  Om, how demoralizing to everyone in TM who 
try to do good participating in a spiritual regeneration movement to then have 
this leadership out there cuckolding his people . Is this characteristic of TM 
leadership? Who would want to be involved with these people? This is really 
bad. If the organization can't separate themselves from this guy then the guy 
should separate himself from the teaching if he had any sense of respect about 
it. TM should at least take a lesson from the Catholics and quickly cut this 
guy entirely off for the due-process of law as a cast-away. He evidently has 
done it to himself. This has been going on for months. If Nadir Ram, Bevan and 
Raja Hagelin can't fire and relieve from duties this guy outright, at least 
make a statement and put him out on a long administrative leave until the 
courts really settle it. TM needs to make clear that in going forward this kind 
of thing is not acceptable. Code of Conduct? What says the organization?
 
 -Buck   




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 6:41 AM, Share Long wrote:

  But now thinking about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH
  the stone on top of his crypt.
 
So, let's review what we know:

They killed Jesus. Mary put him in Joseph's tomb. Some guys put a big 
heavy stone blocking the entrance to the crypt. Later, after a few days, 
they rolled away the stone and somebody inside was missing. So, how did 
Jesus get out of the tomb when it was blocked by the big heavy rock? He 
rose from the dead and he flew up out there into the sky - he was the 
Christ. Then Jesus camedown to talk to Mary.

Are we agreed so far?

  And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the 
stone!
 
Not only that, but if Jesus had risen all wrapped in tape, people would 
have thought he was a zombie - the walking dead. So, Jesus flew off to 
get some clothes on - a nice robe and some sandals to wear. He probably 
washed up a little bit too. Then he flew back down to see his 
girlfriend, Mary, in front of the tomb over by the garden. At first Mary 
didn't recognize Jesus because he looked like the gardener. But, then 
Jesus called her out name and she realized that Jesus was the Christ. 
After telling her what to do he flew up into the sky to get out of there 
as fast as he could - who want's to hang around a killing place?

  ...if he was already in a bullock cart, why was he still hitchhiking
  across the desert?! Was he hoping for a better ride? Maybe a camel
  or a Roman chariot?
 
It's much more efficient to fly around instead of walking or hitching a 
ride in a cart. When you have to use public transportation you often 
have to bow and scrape.

. As for saving the world, maybe at that point after resurrection,
  he thought he'd make a career change. I mean, what with the
  crucifixion and all!
 
Yeah, wouldn't you want to fly out of there as soon as you could - who 
wants to wait around on the corner for a bus?


[FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams  wrote:

 The first phase of lying is to be able to hover.

Clearly, Judy doesn't believe that any of the people she's accused of
lying over the decades really ARE lying, because she's never claimed
that any of them are able to hover. Go figure. :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 9:43 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

  As Paul's letters are generally considered to have been
  written before the Gospels, he was likely referring to
  various prophesies in the Jewish scriptures that 'foretell'
  the Messiah
 
Paul's fifteenth chapter of the First Epistle to the Corinthians is 
based on events that were told to Paul by way of the apostles in 
Jerusalem. Paul talked to James and Peter and they told him about the 
resurrection. Later, Jesus told Paul all about the resurrection himself. 
The first eleven verses are the earliest account of the Resurrection 
appearances of Jesus in the New Testament. In Christianity believers in 
the resurrection will themselves be resurrected from the dead and will 
rise up into spiritual bodies at the Last Judgement.

Paul - 1 Corinthians: 15:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 8:18 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I just noticed that Judy is anxious, as always, to stretch
  some tiny point into a prolonged disagreement.
 
So, let's sum up what we know, Steve:

Judy does not believe the Bible as history. She does not believe that 
angels, spirits, and Jesus could fly or hover. But, Judy does believe 
that she herself could someday levitate. Apparently she has already 
reached the hopping stage and is well one her way to hovering and then 
on to flying. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
 Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking 
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. 
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! 

 

 

 

 Hans Multscher, 1437
 
 
 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams

On 1/1/2014 7:32 PM, Share Long wrote:

 Richard kept saying that the spirit of Jesus rose from
 his body but the scripture says the tomb was empty. No body.

For Christians, Jesus rose up from the dead in body AND soul. That's why 
there was an empty tomb.


According to Mary, I saw the Lord in a vision and I said to him, ‘Lord, 
I saw you today in a vision.’ He answered and said to me: “Blessed are 
you, that you did not waver at the sight of me. For where the mind is, 
there is the treasure. I said to him, So now, Lord, does a person who 
sees a vision see it through the soul or through the spirit?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mary


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread doctordumbass
My wife's birthday is about three weeks away, and her cousin's is on Christmas 
EVE - total rip-off on the presents. I should probably hit the sales, soon. 
Glad to hear you bought some art, too. Always a worthwhile purchase. Happy New 
Year!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread doctordumbass
I've just been reading through them, and I think he is a really funny guy.  
 

 I agree if you think being (profoundly) intellectually insecure is humorous. 

 

 Thanks Bob - I've been wondering what the hell his driver is.



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
I was reading in the Houston Chronicle just an hour ago that Ariel Sharon's 
health has turned badly. He is now experiencing kidney failure while in his 
coma. Four *blood moons*(lunar eclipse) are going to appear over the next year 
to 16 months. Each eclipse on a significant Jewish holiday starting with 
Passover. These are associated with changes to Israel and in between them will 
be a solar eclipse, associated with a change in the world in general. Google 
four blood moons for details.


From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:02 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

  
A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, he surprised his followers 
when he told them that he met the Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his 
synagogue on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the 
Messiah. He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel 
Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a 
massive stroke more than a year ago.) Other rabbis predict the same, including 
Rabbi Haim Cohen, kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim Kneiveskzy.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: 
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23877/Default.aspx


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 6:10 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote:

  ...you continually show an extreme amount of intolerance, 
judgementalness,
  (if that's a word), and narrow mindedness.
 
Judy is what used to be called a TMer fundie on Google Groups. For 
years over there she defended MMY's Yogic Flying program. I can cite 
hundreds of messages posted by Judy discussing the foam slab, the 
grunting, the hopping, lift off, hovering, and the flying around the 
room with arms flailing. But when it comes to discussing Christian 
saints or angels flying, she is in complete denial. Go figure.

  But in your mind, it's called The Truth, so, no worries.
 
Judy doesn't believe the Bible scriptures; Judy doesn't believe in the 
Yoga scriptures. Judy believes in Judy - whatever she says is the truth; 
not some first person accounts written by conservative Christians or 
conservative Hindus. And, certainly she does not believe a guy from 
Texas. I mean, what would a guy from Texas named Williams know about the 
Bible or the resurrection?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

  One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
  resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
  someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
  Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
 
Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is appeared to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?

  I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
  course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.
 
Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
Never a fundie in terms of anything but Maharishi's teaching on the nature 
and mechanics of consciousness. And I don't believe I ever said anything about 
flying around the room with arms flailing. That would have been odd indeed 
since I repeatedly pointed out that nothing except hopping had been 
demonstrated.
 

 Finally, for folks who haven't been reading my exchange with Richard, I've 
never said Christian saints or angels couldn't fly; all I've said is that the 
Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being up in the air after his 
resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
 

 Richard knows all this; he's trolling and lying.
 

  Judy is what used to be called a TMer fundie on Google Groups. For 

 years over there she defended MMY's Yogic Flying program. I can cite 
 hundreds of messages posted by Judy discussing the foam slab, the 
 grunting, the hopping, lift off, hovering, and the flying around the 
 room with arms flailing. But when it comes to discussing Christian 
 saints or angels flying, she is in complete denial. Go figure. 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 4:38 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
  when you add something you made up out of your own head that
  isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
 
Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and 
the Ascension. You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a 
Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a 
history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a 
pastor! Go figure.

According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
  as you know.
 
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she 
was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
You can't even read any Greek!


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
 Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
  when you add something you made up out of your own head that
  isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
 
  Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
 defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and 
 the Ascension. 
 

 Which outrageous and false claims were these? Please be specific.
 

  You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a 
 Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a 
 history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a 
 pastor! Go figure. 
 
Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history 
courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible.

 According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
 eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? 
 

 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the air above the 500 
eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
 

 

 

 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.

  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
  as you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the 
  resurrection - she 
 was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
 Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
 eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
 what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
 he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
 appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
 me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
 Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
 You can't even read any Greek!



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.


From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

 One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
 resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
 someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
 Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.

Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is appeared to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?

 I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
 because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
 course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.

Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I've just been reading through them, and I think he is a really funny guy.  
 

 I agree if you think being (profoundly) intellectually insecure is humorous. 

 

 Thanks Bob - I've been wondering what the hell his driver is.

 

 Hey Doc, Happy New Year. Yes, hit the sales for your wife. Although shopping 
can be a nightmare stick to the nice little independent stores that you can 
walk to. That is my advice for an enjoyable way to pick things that are more 
individual and unique. 
 

 As far as Ricky is concerned I think he has a few drivers none of which 
we'll ever really know. But it is interesting that Steve thinks it is Judy who 
is guilty of Parsing something into idiocy She already clearly said she 
is engaging in this thread about Mary and the risen Christ to illustrate how 
Richard conducts himself here. But, I don't want to get you involved it was 
just an observation! Keep composing and doing all the wonderful things you 
appear to do - in 2014. And do stick around.You are one of my bright spots here.

 


[FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 
From: Richard J. Williams punditster@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

   On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

 One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
 resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
 someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
 Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.

Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is appeared to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?
 

 You mean like the Yogic Flyers?

 I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
 because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
 course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.

Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.


 


 






 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Adwaita

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/31/2013 10:30 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Yes, but the Christian theologians were indebted to the Neoplatonists,
  especially the divine Plotinus and Iamblichus.
 
Not sure what this has to do with MMY's Adwaita. There's no trinity in 
Adwaita. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Gallup: Only 5% of Religious Americans Are Non-Christians

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
Unless Gallup is intentionally trying to deceive the public, it sounds like 3/4 
of all Americans identified *themselves*, not their families, as Christian. To 
what degree they practice their faith is anyone's guess. The same goes for any 
other religion and it's adherents.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gallup: Only 5% of Religious Americans Are 
Non-Christians

  
Depends on what questions they asked, doesn't it?  If they asked me if I was 
from a Christian family about the only thing I could say was my maternal 
grandmother was a Methodist and attended church.  The rest of us just said 
meh.On 12/31/2013 05:06 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
  
A recent Gallup poll refutes the claim made by Barack Obama on March 9, 2008 
that “we are no longer a Christian nation.”


Gallup found that three quarters of all Americans - a supermajority - identify 
themselves as Christians, with only five percent saying they are practicing 
members of a non-Christian faith.


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/gallup-only-5-religious-americans-are-non-christians


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY#39;s Adwaita

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/1/2014 12:16 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

  The doctrine of the Trinity was decided by decree
  not by philosophic analysis.
 
It looks like maybe you lost your train of thought. What wouldit take to 
get you to say on topic?

Traditional Advaita, as taught by the Adi Shankaracharya, has sadhana 
requirements. Not everyone will be accepted into the Saraswati Order. 
Most people won't have access to the initiation performed for the 
sannyasins of the Saraswati tradition. Ramana Maharshi changed all that 
- he established the Direct Path teachings. He taught that Realization 
is open to everyone, and that a long series of preparatory studies was 
not a requirement that the non-dual Reality be realized. MMY seems to 
agree with much that Ramana Maharshi has said, as do Poonja, 
Nisargadatta Maharaj, Papaji, Atmananda Krishna Menon, Swami 
Chinmayananda, and Ramesh Balsekar.

However, although the Shankaracharya renunciates adhere to the Advairta 
Vedanta, at the same time they all worship the Divine Mother - Sri 
Vidya, and that is why they are termed Saraswati. They are Sri Vidya 
proponents who follow Shankaracharya's Advaita Vedanta.


[FairfieldLife] RE: Rare video of Judy reacting to Share and Richard getting attention

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWsCy8u_0Y#t=33 
 

 Rare footage of Richard and Share, in costume:
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkefjCES-4 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnkefjCES-4





 


[FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Secret Doctrines

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 12/31/2013 10:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Back to the usual clap-trap.
 
Without enlightenment, there's no Buddha. Without Buddha, there's no 
Buddhism. You're not even making any sense, Bill.

The historical Buddha wrote nothing, and the language that he spoke is 
no longer extant. This being the case, a person such as yourself could 
hardly know what the Buddha taught about much of anything about ay 
secret doctrines. Apparently you can't even understand any Tibetan. Go 
figure.

However, based on the research of learned scholars such as Robert 
Thurman, we can infer that the Buddha maintained a strict silence on the 
matters of the first cause. Not for nothing did they call the Buddha the 
Shakya the Muni,  the silent sage of the Shakya clan. It's just not 
enough to declare all the historians to be clap-trap. You've got to at 
least makes sense if you are going to participate in a discussion about 
the historical Buddha.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread steve.sundur
The reality of my skiing is that I'm not as good as I once was, but I'm as 
good once, as I ever was, and because of that I have more time to spend doing 
other things.  That translates into two days out of five skiing.
 

 So, the wife and I decided to spend a day walking around Aspen and visiting 
some of the art galleries as we've always wanted to do, sans kids.
 

 And really, some of the stuff is priced so high, that you don't really want to 
go in, unless it looks really interesting, or you feel they might have 
something you could afford to buy.
 

 It so happens that the first gallery we went into had some nice pieces.  Of 
course the pricing was still a little too high, although we had a budget of 
around $2,000.00, so we weren't just only browsing.  The asking price on the 
three pieces we wanted was around $3,500.00.
 

 We eventually settled on $2,450.00, and feel we really enhanced our little 
place out there.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Share Long
Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose THROUGH 
the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They helped him 
move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men fell 
asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all think?





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:46 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
 Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking 
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. 
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! 





Hans Multscher, 1437


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Share Long
dear Mike, Happy New Year to you and your critters! Now could you please define 
*last word?!*





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!


[FairfieldLife] Re: 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
The Kinks

[image: Inline image 1]

You Really Got Me
http://youtu.be/-2GmzyeeXnQ

Original line-up in 1965:

Pete Quaife
Dave Davies
Ray Davies
Mick Avory

The Kinks were an English rock band formed in Muswell Hill, North London,
by brothers Ray and Dave Davies in 1964. The Kinks, who rose to fame during
the mid-1960s and were part of the British Invasion of the USA, are
recognized as one of the most important and influential rock groups of the
era. You Really Got Me was released in August 1964, and, boosted by a
performance on the television show Ready Steady Go!, quickly reached number
one in the United Kingdom. The Kinks are one of the most important and
influential rock acts of the 1960s

Read more:

The Kinks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kinks

British Rock:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_rock


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Little Richard

 [image: Inline image 2]

 Lucille- LIVE 1973
 http://youtu.be/6OIkfEdll0E

 Long Tall Sally - 1956
 http://youtu.be/jqxNSvFMkag

 Good Golly Miss Molly - Muhammad Ali's 50th Birthday
 http://youtu.be/AK_jm3Hz1Wk

 The Girl Can't Help It - Live
 http://youtu.be/oqz6Y9aHGIQ

 Jenny, Jenny - Specialty 78 RPM vinyl recording, 1957
 http://youtu.be/UXasGv0c4V0

 Keep A-Knockin - Specialty 331/3 RPM vinyl album, 1957
 http://youtu.be/PcJrExewkYA

 Rolling Stone ranked the album Here's Little Richard number fifty on the
 500 Greatest Albums of All Time; ranked Penniman number eight on the list
 of 100 Greatest Artists of All Time; three of Penniman's recordings, The
 Girl Can't Help It, Long Tall Sally and Tutti Frutti, are listed in
 500 Greatest Songs of All Time; and the song Good Golly, Miss Molly
 listed on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and
 Roll.

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Richard Wayne Penniman, known by his stage name Little Richard, is an
 American recording artist, songwriter, and musician. He has been an
 influential figure in popular music and culture for over six decades.
 Penniman's most celebrated work dates from the mid 1950s where his dynamic
 music and charismatic showmanship laid the foundation for rock and roll.

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Richard

 'Sweet Soul Music: Rhythm and Blues and the Southern Dream of Freedom'
 by Peter Guralnick
 Back Bay Books, 1999


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Chuck Berry

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Johnny B-Goode
 http://youtu.be/rVT65M4mRnM

 You Can't Catch Me - 1956
 http://youtu.be/bcblXxc4oqo

 Maybellene - 1955
 http://youtu.be/LvKDr8AgvK8

 Rock and Roll Music - Toronto, Canada - 1969
 http://youtu.be/1U_hRhImaBU

 Nadine
 http://youtu.be/Cm8ktxzaumg

 Berry was among the first musicians to be inducted into the Rock and Roll
 Hall of Fame on its opening in 1986, with the comment that he laid the
 groundwork for not only a rock and roll sound but a rock and roll
 stance.[5] Berry is included in several Rolling Stone Greatest of All
 Time lists, including being ranked fifth on their 2004 list of the 100
 Greatest Artists of All Time.[6] The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 Songs
 that Shaped Rock and Roll included three of Chuck Berry's songs: Johnny B.
 Goode, Maybellene, and Rock and Roll Music.

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Berry


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Chrissie Hynde

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Back on the Chain Gang - Live in London
 http://youtu.be/okvl-9svtS0

 Middle Of The Road - 1984
 http://youtu.be/Niz2DuHc5K8

 The Pretenders are an English-American rock band formed in Hereford,
 England, in March 1978. The original band comprised initiator and main
 songwriter Chrissie Hynde (lead vocals, rhythm guitar), James
 Honeyman-Scott (lead guitar, backing vocals, keyboards), Pete Farndon (bass
 guitar, backing vocals), and Martin Chambers (drums, backing vocals,
 percussion).

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pretenders


 On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Cream

 [image: Inline image 1]

 Cream Live in the Royal Albert Hall Part 1:
 http://youtu.be/nIKfECOE7GI


 [image: Inline image 2]

 Along with the Beatles, they gave those of us entering the business at
 that time something to aspire to that wasn't pop but was still popular.

 Rolling Stone List of 100 Greatest Artists of All Time:

 http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/cream-20110420

 Cream are widely regarded as being the world's first successful
 supergroup.

 Cream:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cream_%28band%29


 On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 One of the greatest rock bands of all time. Number 57 on VH1's 100
 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock. Heart, Canada performed at the first 
 Texxas
 Jam on July 4 weekend in 1978 in Dallas, Texas, at the Cotton 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About Zen

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
[image: Inline image 1]
Sumi painting by Shunryo Suzuki

Zen Master Dogen got the Soto Zen practice from his teacher in China -
Dogen was a master linguist and the author of 'Shobogenzo' in which he
describes in detail the Soto Zen practice - sitting meditation. In Dogen's
Zen practice, the primary realization is the *oneness* of
practice-enlightenment. The practice of zazen and the experience of
enlightenment are one and the same - there is no difference - no
duality.According to Georg Feurerstein, the Buddha Shakya the Muni was the
first historical yogin in India - Buddha taught meditation that was
transcendental.

It' s like a Zen koan:

Wind flag, mind moves,
The same understanding.
When the mouth opens
All are wrong. - Mumon

The practice of 'just sitting' is non-different from the enlightenment -
there is no gap between your practice and your enlightenment. Just sitting
IS enlightenment. Zazen is not step-by-step process - it is all-at-once or
nothing at all. There are no steps along the way. According to Shunryo
Suzuki, a master in the Soto Zen sect, meditation is 'zazen', regular
sitting, based on the teachings of Zen Master Dogen. It's just like TM
practice, sitting meditation. Anyone who has practiced TM and Soto Zen
knows this - it's pretty common knowledge without even going into any
linguistics.

Dogen Kigen:

Fifty-four years lighting up the sky.
A quivering leap smashes a billion worlds.
Hah!
Entire body looks for nothing.
Living, I plunge into Yellow Springs.

Exerpt:

Once we turn our eyes from Japan to the Western
scene, we find that virtually nothing has been
introduced concerning Dogen - this is unfortuenant
indeed, given that ignorance of Soto Zen is
tantamount to ignorance of Dogen, its founder.

Ken Wilber says that Zen practice is very similar to TM practice.
Apparently Wilber's parents have started TM practice some time ago. Wilber
ascribes to the 'two truths doctrine' of
Nagarjuna. For Wilber no metaphysical doctrine or apparent reality is true
in an absolute sense: only formless awareness, the simple feeling of
being, exists absolutely.

Works cited:

'The Yoga Tradition: Its History, Literature,
Philosophy and Practice'
by Georg Feuerstein and Ken Wilbur
Hohm Press, 2001

'Dogen Kigen--Mystical Realist'
by Hee-Jin Kim
Wisdom Publications, 2004

'A Brief History of Everything'
By Ken Wilber
Shambhala, 2007
Page 42-3


On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:



 There is simply nothing better than 60-s blah blah


 Yes. Alan Watts, D. T. Suzuki and Krishnamurti turned the world upside
 down. (At least my inner world.) And lets not forget MMY's Science of
 Being and Art of Living. Though not in the same league it was an original
 and optimistic work.

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
Look more closely. The painting shows him in the process of emerging from the 
tomb right through the stone lid fully clothed (or draped), while the guards 
are snoring away.
 

 This is my favorite painting of the Resurrection, both because Christ looks 
kind of beat up and even a little diffident--more Hi, Dad, it's me than 
triumphant; and because the artist is having us on a bit: it all seems rather 
mundane and unexciting until you notice where Christ's left leg is, with the 
lid still firmly on the tomb.
 

 Also, it's a wonderfully executed, very imaginative composition.
 

  Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose 
THROUGH the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They 
helped him move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men 
fell asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all think? 
 

 
 
 On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:46 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking 
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. 
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! 

 

 

 

 Hans Multscher, 1437
 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread doctordumbass
Happy New Year, Ann! Yep, I like the little shops. Regarding truth and accuracy 
on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. What started out as more of an 
earnest place to discuss spiritual experiences, has devolved into simply a chat 
room, where anyone can say anything, about anything, and anyone. So if Judy 
wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her choice, but I am with 
Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the effort anymore, regarding 
its original intent, though I do enjoy chatting here, from time to time. I am 
also a huge proponent of actions speaking louder than words, and I am very 
active. :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Share Long
I agree, Judy, it is an imaginative composition. What I especially like is that 
the artist seems to be playing with perspective. BUT from the point of view of 
the human body, rather than a line of columns or some other architectural 
structure. Also, I like that by costume he places the three guards in another 
era. Thanks for suggesting I look more closely.





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 10:15 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com 
authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
Look more closely. The painting shows him in the process of emerging from the 
tomb right through the stone lid fully clothed (or draped), while the guards 
are snoring away.

This is my favorite painting of the Resurrection, both because Christ looks 
kind of beat up and even a little diffident--more Hi, Dad, it's me than 
triumphant; and because the artist is having us on a bit: it all seems rather 
mundane and unexciting until you notice where Christ's left leg is, with the 
lid still firmly on the tomb.

Also, it's a wonderfully executed, very imaginative composition.



 Ok, Richard and Judy, based on this painting, I wonder if Jesus rose THROUGH 
the stone, but nekkid. Three beings were there on the outside. They helped him 
move the stone so he could retrieve his garments. Then the three men fell 
asleep, they were so tired from moving that rock! What do you all think? 





On Thursday, January 2, 2014 7:46 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
  
 Richard, I haven't really thought about it much til now! But now thinking 
about it, maybe Jesus rose body and soul THROUGH the stone on top of his crypt. 
And that's why he was nekkid. The cloth couldn't make it through the stone! 





Hans Multscher, 1437




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Yucks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Bhairitu

FFL has gone to the birds  or the ducks.

On 01/02/2014 07:04 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this 
one! LOL!






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: All About the Fighting Ascetics of India

2014-01-02 Thread Bhairitu
This is not a football game.  TM is a joke compared to the centuries 
long tradition and knowledge of the Shakaracharya tradition.


On 01/02/2014 03:19 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:


Wow!   Where does this stand now?  Does Maharishi's guy have an inside 
track now? Is there now any defference or are they still fighting? 
 Follow the money?  Nadir Ram apparently recently appealed to [a] the 
shankaracharya to rule on his legitimacy as heir to TM around the 
recent revolt of Mother Divine within TM.  Which Shankaracharya is his 
guy?   This article cited was from 2003.  What up now?  Who is our guy?


-Buck






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 On 1/1/2014 4:52 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
  as you know.
 
 You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection - she 
 was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
 Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
 eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
 what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
 he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
 appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
 me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
 Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
 You can't even read any Greek!
 

 Important Message to the other readers at FFL:
 Richard is desperately needing some approval here. He won't stop until Barry 
and Share and Steve and whoever else feels he's a war hero (falling on his 
grenade and all that. Can't have been a live grenade seeing as there is sound 
still issuing from his mouth) give him more accolades, applause and another 
medal. So please, gather 'round and praise this man so we can all go home and 
get a good night's sleep and go onto something more interesting like what 
product you all use to de-flea your cats.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote:

 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
New Year.
 

 
From: Richard J. Williams punditster@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

   On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

 One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
 resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
 someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
 Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.

Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According 
to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of 
things. The key word here is appeared to be walking. Every Gnostic 
knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have 
appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have 
been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air 
under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - 
it's like a spring board for launching.

Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off 
the ground?

 I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
 because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
 course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.

Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your 
girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.


 


 









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
New Year. 
 

 Trouble is, he's making sense, so he isn't going to get anywhere with Richard.
 

 


 











[FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Happy New Year, Ann! Yep, I like the little shops. Regarding truth and 
accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. What started out as more of 
an earnest place to discuss spiritual experiences, has devolved into simply a 
chat room, where anyone can say anything, about anything, and anyone. So if 
Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her choice, but I am 
with Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the effort anymore, 
regarding its original intent, though I do enjoy chatting here, from time to 
time. I am also a huge proponent of actions speaking louder than words, and I 
am very active. :-)
 

 Yes, you seem to live a very full and happy life with your music, your 
interests, your family and your retirement allowing you freedom in terms of 
time and, presumably, resources. 
 

 I think this place can be extremely tedious and it can be frustrating but 
whatever one wants to call it, it certainly is an interesting insight into 
human nature. It is not necessarily the most optimistically bright look at the 
human condition but there are the more insightful and humorous glimpses and 
that is what keeps me hanging around. 
 


[FairfieldLife] Thoughts Are Powerful Things

2014-01-02 Thread martin.quickman
an excerpt from Sir Isaac Tigrett's talk given in Singapore 2007.
 

 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/our-thoughts-are-powerful-excerpted-from-isaac-tigretts-singapore-talk-2007/
 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/our-thoughts-are-powerful-excerpted-from-isaac-tigretts-singapore-talk-2007/


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread bobpriced


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote:

 Hey Bob,
 

 Giving things are good, hard look is good.
 

 Parsing something into idiocy, or for the purposes of trying to win an 
argument is bad.
 

 I think it works something like that.
 

 Have you ever had a kitten, where any little playful movement elicits a full 
pounce response.  That's kinda what I'm talking about with Judy. Where any 
little point, or disagreement becomes the grounds for an argument, if she feels 
like arguing, which usually seems to be the case.
 

 And since you and Judy have asked for examples of her missing irony, it 
happened (particularly) in a post I made about Robin some time ago.  My post 
was so outlandish that I was shocked anyone could have taken it seriously. But 
take it seriously she did, and I was then too embarrassed (for her) to point it 
out.
 

 Fortunately most everyone else got, and when it came up later in a 
discussion, I was quite relieved that the misconception could be finally 
cleared up.  Since then there have been several other instances.  But if you 
think I'm making it up, just disregard the comment as some kind of fabrication 
on my part.  
 

 And sorry again for my misspellings.  I was anxious to get out the door. The 
wife's birthday is on the fourth. Naturally she's felt cheated all her life by 
having her birthday so close to Christmas.  But it sure made it easy finding 
something nice today at 50% off.
 

 Hi Steve,
 

 Thanks for responding although your first sentence might be a bit too haiku 
for my talents. I enjoy our exchanges, but it's back to the coal mines for me; 
forgive me if my responses are slow, its not for lack of interest in your views.
 

 What I see on FFL are a bunch of fried old boomer misogynists (Barry, Richard, 
Xeno), starting arguments with Judy that they can't finish; Judy then puts them 
out of their misery by making them stand in the corner for an afternoon, where 
they obsessively contemplate their blunders - telling themselves that: next 
time it will be different, only to find themselves back in the corner cooling 
there heels the next time they start an argument with her; its like watching 
Bjorn Borg dispatch Bobby Riggs in the movie Ground Hog Day. 
 

 Why wouldn't Judy parse to win an argument someone else started with her, we 
all do that; have you not *analyzed and responded minutely* in this exchange? I 
believe it's standard practice for communicating on new media, and, IMO, a hell 
of a lot more suitable for chat rooms than Richard's incontinent polemics (at 
least some of Barry's and Shares mindless dribble would work on Twitter). 
 

 It's interesting you pick something as dangerous and cute as a kitten as an 
analogy for Judy's aggression, I wonder if that doesn't point to a grudging 
respect that you'd be more open about if you're weren't *all in* in your 
defence of Share.
 

 Happy birthday to your wife - I would go with Ann's advice and stick to the 
small stores.  
 

 All the best for your business in 2014 - hope you ride the year of the horse 
to the fulfillment of all your dreams. 
 
  




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread bobpriced


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I've just been reading through them, and I think he is a really funny guy.  
 

 I agree if you think being (profoundly) intellectually insecure is humorous. 

 

 Thanks Bob - I've been wondering what the hell his driver is.

 

 Like Barry's lifestyle, Richard compulsively beats a drum most of us put away 
in our youth.
 

 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as 
a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 1 Corinthians 
13:11 
 

 (Does that sound like Lex Luthor to you?)
 

 Happy birthday to your wife Dr., I would follow Ann's advice and stick with 
the small stores: 
 

 Support Small Business!
 
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  doctordumbass wrote:

  ... Regarding truth and accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time
ago.

That ship never left the dock. :-)

 What started out as more of an earnest place to discuss spiritual
experiences, has devolved into simply a chat room, where anyone can say
anything, about anything, and anyone.

That's what it always was. Neither concept of truth or accuracy was
ever in evidence here, and for good reason. Neither has anything to do
with spiritual experience, which is by definition subjective.

There can never be any truth with regard to something that only one
person experiences, *other than he or she claims -- rightfully or
wrongfully -- to having experienced it*, and as for accuracy, well
that has depended pretty much since the beginning of spiritual
discussion on how good or bad a storyteller the person claiming the
experience is. The good ones can be *fairly* accurate while still
holding their audiences' attention, but the bad ones *make shit up*.

It's been like this since the beginning of time; ALL scriptures or holy
writings in human history are just storytelling, and most of them IMO
fall into the bad storytelling category, meaning that they're largely
made up to appeal to an audience that wouldn't be content with a simply
accurate retelling of a subjective experience. Get over it.

 So if Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her
choice...

And her particular hubris. The very *idea* of her -- or anyone --
claiming to know the truth is ludicrous. It's just *more* ludicrous
coming from her, that's all. :-)

 ...but I am with Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the
effort anymore, regarding its original intent, though I do enjoy
chatting here, from time to time.

Why are you looking for more? Chatting is what equals do. Truth
telling is what people who claim to be UNEQUAL, and SUPERIOR, and the
knowers of truth do to the people they look down on. Historically,
Jim, you've always been one of the latter. It would be more pleasant if
you chose mainly to chat from now on, but I for one am not going to hold
my breath. :-)





[FairfieldLife] Blessed Prasad, The Guru#39;s Grace

2014-01-02 Thread martin.quickman
A most wonderful  retelling of the time when Swami would walk among us offering 
blessed sweets. Often He would toss them in our laps or hair bands, each one 
deliciously savoured or preserved for a special moment. Be loved, and be 
blessed  -
 

 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/blessed-prasad-darshan-experiences/
 
http://sathyasaimemories.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/blessed-prasad-darshan-experiences/


[FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

  Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.

 

 Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
New Year. 
 

 Trouble is, he's making sense, so he isn't going to get anywhere with Richard.
 

 Thanks Auth, that made me laugh too. BTW, you have a good friend in that bOb 
fellow. He certainly appears to be able to more than hold his own with the 
riffle raffle around here and to keep his head above the flotsam and jetsam 
currently streaming. I think he might be a keeper. My vote: he can stay part of 
the Club for 2014, maybe if Honorary but we'll have to bring that up with the 
board.
 


 










 


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread Bhairitu
I've always compared FFL to the General Topics of forums.  This seemed 
to Rick's intent.  It's a place for folks of a similar background to 
discuss anything. There are already plenty of spiritual experience 
groups though they may well be moderated by folks who will boot anyone 
who gets a little to pesky with attacking the messenger than focusing on 
the message.


On 01/02/2014 08:55 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote:


Happy New Year, Ann! Yep, I like the little shops. Regarding truth and 
accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. What started out as 
more of an earnest place to discuss spiritual experiences, has 
devolved into simply a chat room, where anyone can say anything, about 
anything, and anyone. So if Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on 
here, that is her choice, but I am with Steve on this one. This place 
just isn't worth the effort anymore, regarding its original intent, 
though I do enjoy chatting here, from time to time. I am also a huge 
proponent of actions speaking louder than words, and I am very active. :-)







[FairfieldLife] Re: Great Rock Hits of the Past

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
The Zombies

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She's Not There  - Live 1965
http://youtu.be/aBdrDu9nq7Q

Paul Atkinson
Chris White
Sebastian Santa Maria
Hugh Grundy
Keith Airey

She's Not There - from the Moon Flower album by Santana, 1977
http://youtu.be/c7wNM30R2WI

The Zombies are an English rock band, formed in 1962 in St Albans and led
by Rod Argent (piano, organ and vocals) and Colin Blunstone (vocals). The
group scored British and American hits in 1964 with She's Not There Their
1968 album, Odessey and Oracle, comprising twelve songs by the group's
principal songwriters, Argent and Chris White, is ranked number 100 on
Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.

Carlos Santana - Guitars
Greg Walker - Vocals
David Margen - Bass
Tom Coster - Keys
Graham Lear - Drums
Pete Escovedo - Percussion
Pablo Tellez - Percussion
Paul Rekow - Percussion

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This classic Zombies album still in my record collection, 331/3 RPM vinyl -
played once (near mint).

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zombies

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-timehttp://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/500-greatest-albums-of-all-time-20120531/the-zombies-odessey-and-oracle-20120525



On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

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 Huey Lewis and the News  - from the Sports Album
 http://youtu.be/gMa2coAIiuo

 I Want A New Drug - from the Sports Album
 http://youtu.be/N6uEMOeDZsA

 Hip To Be Square - From the album Fore!
 http://youtu.be/LB5YkmjalDg

 Workin' for a livin' - Live 1992
 http://youtu.be/9N2CANatVYQ

 In 1993 I saw this band at a free concert in Zilker Park in Austin. Sweet!
 Huey Lewis and the News is an American pop rock band based in San
 Francisco, California. They had a run of hit singles during the 1980s and
 early 1990s, eventually scoring a total of 19 top-ten singles across the
 Billboard Hot 100, Adult Contemporary and Mainstream Rock charts. Their
 greatest success was in the 1980s with the number-one album, Sports,
 coupled with a series of highly successful MTV videos.

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huey_Lewis_and_the_News


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Gene Vincent

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 Be-Bop-A-Lula - Video
 http://youtu.be/AH4qCNjpY_k

 Vincent Eugene Craddock (February 11, 1935 – October 12, 1971), known as
 Gene Vincent, was an American musician who pioneered the styles of rock and
 roll and rockabilly. His 1956 top ten hit with his Blue Caps,
 Be-Bop-A-Lula, is considered a significant early example of rockabilly.
 He is a member of both the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the Rockabilly
 Hall of Fame.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Vincent


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Eddie Cochran

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 Summertime Blues - Town Hall Party - 1959
 http://youtu.be/Ti38LFY7x1Y

 C'mon Everybody 45 RPM vinyl recording
 http://youtu.be/7-71rZxFiRQ

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 Edward Raymond 'Eddie' Cochran (October 3, 1938 – April 17, 1960) was an
 American musician. Cochran's rockabilly songs, such as C'mon Everybody
 and Summertime Blues. He experimented with multitrack recording and
 overdubbing even on his earliest singles, and was also able to play piano,
 bass and drums.[1] His image as a sharply dressed, rugged but good-looking
 young man with a rebellious attitude epitomized the stance of the 50s
 rocker, and in death he achieved an iconic status.

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Cochran


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Richard Williams 
 pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Blondie

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 Heart Of Glass - Video
 http://youtu.be/WGU_4-5RaxU

 Call Me - Video
 http://youtu.be/aH3Q_CZy968

 One Way Or Another - Video
 http://youtu.be/KXewIR7Y7cc

 Rapture - Video
 http://youtu.be/pHCdS7O248g

 Blondie is an American rock band founded by singer Deborah Harry and
 guitarist Chris Stein.[3] The band was a pioneer in the early American new
 wave and punk scenes of the mid-1970s. The band achieved several hit
 singles including Call Me, Rapture and Heart of Glass. Parallel Lines
 is ranked No. 140 on Rolling Stone's list of 500 greatest albums of all
 time.

 Read more:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondie_(band)


 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Devo

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 Whip It (Video Live Fridays)
 http://youtu.be/bQidM91CkXE

 Devo is an American New Wave band formed in 1972 consisting of
 members from Kent and Akron, Ohio. The classic line-up of the band 
 includes
 two sets of brothers, the Mothersbaughs (Mark and Bob) and the Casales
 (Gerald and Bob), along with Alan Myers. The band had a No. 14 Billboard
 chart hit in 1980 with the single Whip It, and has maintained a cult
 following throughout its existence. Their style over time has shifted

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Yucks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
Our very own Duck Dynasty. Maybe we could get AE to do a show on all the 
contributors here. LOL! Blessed are the peace makers having holly war with each 
other. LOL


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Yucks in a Row

  
FFL has gone to the birds  or the ducks.On 01/02/2014 07:04 AM, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
  
I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one! LOL!


[FairfieldLife] Re: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread bobpriced


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass wrote:
 
 ... Regarding truth and accuracy on FFL, that ship sailed a long time ago. 

 That ship never left the dock. :-) 

  What started out as more of an earnest place to discuss spiritual 
  experiences, has devolved into simply a chat room, where anyone can say 
  anything, about anything, and anyone. 

 That's what it always was. Neither concept of truth or accuracy was ever 
in evidence here, and for good reason. Neither has anything to do with 
spiritual experience, which is by definition subjective. 

There can never be any truth with regard to something that only one person 
experiences, *other than he or she claims -- rightfully or wrongfully -- to 
having experienced it*, and as for accuracy, well that has depended pretty 
much since the beginning of spiritual discussion on how good or bad a 
storyteller the person claiming the experience is. The good ones can be 
*fairly* accurate while still holding their audiences' attention, but the bad 
ones *make shit up*. 

It's been like this since the beginning of time; ALL scriptures or holy 
writings in human history are just storytelling, and most of them IMO fall 
into the bad storytelling category, meaning that they're largely made up to 
appeal to an audience that wouldn't be content with a simply accurate retelling 
of a subjective experience. Get over it. 

  So if Judy wants to keep upholding the truth on here, that is her choice...

 And her particular hubris. The very *idea* of her -- or anyone -- claiming to 
know the truth is ludicrous. It's just *more* ludicrous coming from her, 
that's all. :-)

  ...but I am with Steve on this one. This place just isn't worth the effort 
  anymore, regarding its original intent, though I do enjoy chatting here, 
  from time to time. 

 Why are you looking for more? Chatting is what equals do. Truth telling is 
what people who claim to be UNEQUAL, and SUPERIOR, and the knowers of truth 
do to the people they look down on. Historically, Jim, you've always been one 
of the latter. It would be more pleasant if you chose mainly to chat from now 
on, but I for one am not going to hold my breath. :-)
 

 If you can't tell the difference between rules of evidence in a court of law 
and the speculations of religious dogma, you might consider starting a thread 
of your own; you could go with the subject line:
 

 Travels with the voice in my head, why every thought I have is an idea. 






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
Actually, I think we're all pushing each others buttons and my sides are aching 
right now LOL!


From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 10:09 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: 
 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk 
but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can create 
the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could at 
least walk with your feet on the ground.



Mike, you're makin' me laugh. I love your posts, keep 'em comin'. And Happy 
New Year. 


Trouble is, he's making sense, so he isn't going to get anywhere with Richard.


Thanks Auth, that made me laugh too. BTW, you have a good friend in that bOb 
fellow. He certainly appears to be able to more than hold his own with the 
riffle raffle around here and to keep his head above the flotsam and jetsam 
currently streaming. I think he might be a keeper. My vote: he can stay part 
of the Club for 2014, maybe if Honorary but we'll have to bring that up with 
the board.


[FairfieldLife] My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

2014-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but
simple.

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing
directly to me -- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear
that they never bother to read anything these people write -- would stop
doing so.

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and
Bob.

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words
that I can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View
mode in weeks. I will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post
that you write here. Ever.

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*,
almost as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility
of *ever* being worth my time in the future.

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even
though *everyone* here knows that you're really writing to the crowd,
hoping to influence *them*.

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response.
You're not going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so
why not write *to* the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here --
that you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you
to think that other people feel the same way about the things you write.
T'ain't true. That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara,
not ours. We've written you off. If you were half as smart as you like
to pose as being, you'd have figured that out by now.







Re: [FairfieldLife] My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

2014-01-02 Thread Bhairitu
And given the Neo interface and perusing FFL one should probably only 
respond above the post as I'm doing here.  Neo doesn't parse embedded 
replies very well.


On 01/02/2014 11:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


*/It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, 
but simple.


I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing 
directly to me -- or to one of the other posters who have made it 
clear that they never bother to read anything these people write -- 
would stop doing so.


Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, 
and Bob.


I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few 
words that I can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message 
View mode in weeks. I will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full 
post that you write here. Ever.


Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written 
off*, almost as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no 
possibility of *ever* being worth my time in the future.


Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, 
even though *everyone* here knows that you're really writing to the 
crowd, hoping to influence *them*.


What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look 
like out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of 
response. You're not going to get one from those of us who've written 
you off, so why not write *to* the people you still hope to get one 
from, eh?


Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here 
-- that you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD 
causes you to think that other people feel the same way about the 
things you write. T'ain't true. That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, 
and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've written you off. If you were half 
as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd have figured that out by 
now.




/*






[FairfieldLife] Re: Information Technology Systems

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
Internet Alley

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In recent years, the influx of technology companies into Northern Virginia
has brought many new office buildings and hotels to the landscape. The
rapid growth of Tysons Corner (in comparison to other locations near the
Capital Beltway) has been the topic of numerous studies. This is a
visionary look at Tysons Corner as the driving force of the nation's
technological economy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tysons_Corner,_Virginia

Much of the world's Internet management and governance takes place in a
corridor extending west from Washington, DC, through northern Virginia
toward Washington Dulles International Airport. Much of the United States'
military planning and analysis takes place here as well. At the center of
that corridor is Tysons Corner--an unincorporated suburban crossroads once
dominated by dairy farms and gravel pits.

Today, the government contractors and high- tech firms--companies like
DynCorp, CACI, Verisign, and SAIC--that now populate this corridor have
created an Internet Alley off the Washington Beltway. In From Tysons
Corner to Internet Alley, Paul Ceruzzi examines this compact area of
intense commercial development and describes its transformation into one of
the most dynamic and prosperous regions in the country. Ceruzzi explains
how a concentration of military contractors carrying out weapons analysis,
systems engineering, operations research, and telecommunications combined
with suburban growth patterns to drive the region's development.

The dot-com bubble's burst was offset here, he points out, by the
government's growing national security-related need for information
technology. Ceruzzi looks in detail at the nature of the work carried out
by these government contractors and how it can be considered truly
innovative in terms of both technology and management. Today in Tysons
Corner, clusters of sleek new office buildings housing high-technology
companies stand out against the suburban landscape, and the upscale Tysons
Galleria Mall is neighbor to a government-owned radio tower marked by a
sign warning visitors not to photograph or sketch it.

Ceruzzi finds that a variety of perennially relevant issues intersect here,
making it both a literal and figurative crossroads: federal support of
scientific research, the shift of government activities to private
contractors, local politics of land use, and the postwar movement from
central cities to suburbs. Paul E. Ceruzzi is Curator of the National Air
and Space Museum, Smithsonian Institution, Washington DC. He is the author
of A History of Modern Computing (second edition, MIT Press, 2003) and
other books, and coeditor of The Internet and American Business (MIT Press,
2008).

Read more:

Internet Alley: High Technology in Tysons Corner, 1945-2005'
by Paul E. Ceruzzi
The MIT Press, 2011


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Data Centers - The Cloud

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 Data centers adhere to the same rules as any electronic secret black box -
 the first rule of any data center is : Don't talk about the data centers.
 This is typical hush-hush and can also carry over to people's mental ideas
 of other types the internet infrastructure such as  networks, exchange
 points, the web, cables and the cloud. Very few people know where their
 data is stored - sure you have a hard drive on your computer or a flash
 drive  where you store your data, or even a few blue ethernet cables lying
 around the house.

 But, other locations are mysterious - for example, your online mail, bank
 information or your Amazon account. So, where is the data? In Oregon or
 Alaska? Where is the data center and what makes a data center work? If it's
 not really in the cloud, where is it? And, how many copies of your data are
 out there, stored out there, somewhere in the back of beyond. According to
 Blum, there is a physical infrastructure.

 So  why all the secrecy about data centers? A data center if the
 storehouse of information, the closest the internet has to a physical
 vault. Exchange points are merely transient places, where information
 passes through (and fast!). But in data centers it's relatively static, and
 physically contained in equipment that needs to be protected, and which
 itself has enormous value. Yet more often the secrecy isn't because of
 concerns over privacy or theft, but competition. Knowing how big a data
 center is, how much power it uses, and precisely what's inside is the kind
 of proprietary information technology companies are eager to keep under
 wraps.

 Work cited:

 'Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet'
 by Andrew Blum
 Ecco, 2012
 p. 238

 Other links of interest:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_center

 Performance Cloud Servers:
 http://www.rackspace.com/


 On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:

 Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet

 Tubes, by Andrew Blum, looks behind 

[FairfieldLife] RE: My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
It really infuriates Barry when we address him directly. I wonder how he knows 
we do that, given that he claims never to read our posts. And why does he even 
care when he considers us not worth his time? (Speaking of ego...)
 

 Of course we're writing to the crowd. Everybody knows that. Barry's problem is 
that he's afraid, in the absence of a response from him, that we might well 
influence them. But of course he does respond to us, just not directly. 
Everybody knows that too. ;-)
 

 (For the record, I never read Richard's posts unless they're aimed at me or 
have to do with a thread I'm involved in.)
 

 It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but 
simple. 

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing directly to me 
-- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear that they never bother 
to read anything these people write -- would stop doing so. 

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and Bob. 

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words that I 
can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View mode in weeks. I 
will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post that you write here. Ever. 

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*, almost 
as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility of *ever* 
being worth my time in the future. 

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even though 
*everyone* here knows that you're really writing to the crowd, hoping to 
influence *them*. 

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like 
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response. You're not 
going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so why not write *to* 
the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here -- that 
you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you to think 
that other people feel the same way about the things you write. T'ain't true. 
That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've 
written you off. If you were half as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd 
have figured that out by now. 

 






Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 8:21 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being up in the air
  after his resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
 
Do you even have a Bible in your house? Everyone knows about Christ 
being in the clouds in hundreds of depictions in religious art. 
According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen 
above five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky.

The Conversion of Paul the Apostle, was, according to the New 
Testament, an event that took place in the life of Paul the Apostle 
which led him to cease persecuting early Christians and to become a 
follower of Jesus. It is normally dated by researchers to AD 33–36. As 
he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed 
around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice... - Acts 9:3–9.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the
 air above the 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says
 Christ appeared to them.

Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of
course the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500
people would have been able seen him all at one time? You're not even
making any sense. Apparently you haven't received the Good News, or even
Something Good is Happening. Go figure.

According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen above
five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. Paul himself on the
road to Damascus saw the risen Lord up in the sky - in the clouds above.

[image: Inline image 1]

La conversion de Saint Paul
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom
the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. (Corinthians
1:6 - King James Version).

Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with
Cephas and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other
apostles—only James, the Lord's brother. I assure you before God that what
I am writing you is no lie. - (Galatians 1:18-20 - King James Version).

This account meets all the demands of historical reliability that could
possibly be made of such a text, whilst A. M. Hunter said, The passage
therefore preserves uniquely early and verifiable testimony. It meets every
reasonable demand of historical reliability.

1 Corinthians 15:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:32 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:



  Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
  when you add something you made up out of your own head that
  isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
 

  Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in
 defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and
 the Ascension. 

 Which outrageous and false claims were these? Please be specific.

  You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a
 Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a
 history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a
 pastor! Go figure. 

 Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history
 courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible.


  According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500
 eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? 

 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the air above the
 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.




  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
 Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
 as you know.

You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?

[image: Inline image 1]

Resurrection of Christ by Noel Coypel, 1700, using a hovering depiction of
Jesus:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg

The Resurrection of Jesus is the Christian belief that Jesus Christ
miraculously returned to life on the Sunday following the Friday on which
he was executed by crucifixion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus

Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after
death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:33 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:



 *Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you
 know.*



 * Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,  as
 you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the resurrection
 - she *

 was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that
 Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own
 eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles
 what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that
 he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to
 appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with
 me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY.
 Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE.
 You can't even read any Greek!

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
I have several Bibles in my house, including one on my Kindle. None of them 
says anything about Jesus being up in the air after his resurrection (until 
the Ascension 40 days later).
  the Bible doesn't say anything about Jesus being up in the air
  after his resurrection (until the Ascension 40 days later).
  Do you even have a Bible in your house? Everyone knows about Christ 
 being in the clouds in hundreds of depictions in religious art. 
 

 That would be religious art, not the Bible. Some depict the Ascension as 
taking place immediately after the Resurrection, with Jesus floating in the sky 
above the open, empty tomb; others do not. That's called artistic license. 
Obviously the Resurrection appears much more dramatic the first way, but it's 
not biblical.
 

  According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen 

 above five hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. 
 

 No, as you know, Paul doesn't say anything about the risen Christ floating in 
the sky when he appeared to the 500 brethren. And as far as Paul's conversion 
is concerned, that clearly took place after the Ascension, so Christ could well 
have been floating in the air when he spoke to Paul.
 
 The Conversion of Paul the Apostle, was, according to the New 
 Testament, an event that took place in the life of Paul the Apostle 
 which led him to cease persecuting early Christians and to become a 
 follower of Jesus. It is normally dated by researchers to AD 33–36. As 
 he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed 
 around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice... - Acts 9:3–9.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small
 space of air beneath his feat*?

Have you ever tried to walk around in the hot desert in your bare feet? A
little cushion could go a long way. But there is always a small amount of
air under anyone's feet, although it may be a tiny layer of air. There is
air in everything. But, in fact Christ kept a small layer of air under his
feet as a springboard, so he take off without having to hop on a mattress
of foam. It's obvious.You're not even making any sense, Mike.

 Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk but
 actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can
 create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death,
 you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.

Now why on earth would the Christ want to bow and scrape on the ground? Are
you thinking that when the Christ wants to take off and fly, that he would
run and skip with his feet on the ground and flap his arms like an
albatross? Go figure.


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air
 beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to
 walk but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you
 can create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death,
 you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.

   *From:* Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM

 *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

   On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

  One account of some of the first people to see Christ after
  resurrection said that they were walking towards Galilee and
  someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be
  Jesus. So, I guess He did do some walking.
 
 Sure, the Christ could appear to be walking if he wanted to. According
 to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could appear to be doing lots of
 things. The key word here is appeared to be walking. Every Gnostic
 knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it might have
 appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must have
 been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air
 under his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program -
 it's like a spring board for launching.

 Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape to get off
 the ground?

  I guess she was on his level, the ground, not in the air
  because she was instructed not to cling to him. unless of
  course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.
 
 Of course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your
 girlfriend when you flew in to see her? Go figure.

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow and scrape
   to get off the ground?
  
  You mean like the Yogic Flyers?
 
Well yeah, I had Judy in mind - bow and scrape to bun-hop.


[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread jr_esq
Buck,
 

 It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But it would 
not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for the messiah until 
there are no more Jews left.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re. Get your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 9:04 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:

  I think we should all take bets on who gets the last word in on this one!
 
How much would you be willing to wager? Judy and Bob have their 
macros, but even then, I think I could beat them, even with one hand 
tied behind my back. I have been known to be persistent with certain 
phrases. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the air above the 500 
 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
 
Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of course 
the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500 people would 
have been able seen him all at one time?
 

 You'll have to ask Paul about that, I'm afraid. Certainly big crowds saw him 
all at one time before the Resurrection. Ordinary human beings speak to 500 or 
many more people all the time without being up in the sky.


 You're not even making any sense. Apparently you haven't received the Good 
News, or even Something Good is Happening. Go figure.

 

 I'm not a believer, that's correct. One doesn't have to be a believer to know 
what the Bible says.

 

 According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen above five 
hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. Paul himself on the road to 
Damascus saw the risen Lord up in the sky - in the clouds above.
 

 No, as you know, Paul doesn't say Christ was floating in the sky when he 
appeared to the 500 brethren; nor does Paul say he saw the risen Lord up in the 
sky in the clouds above at Damascus.
 

 It's fine to imagine such things as long as you know that's what you're doing 
and don't claim they're in the Bible.
 

 

 

 

 La conversion de Saint Paul
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle
 

 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the 
greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, 
he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. (Corinthians 1:6 - King James 
Version). 
 

 Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas 
and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other apostles—only James, 
the Lord's brother. I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no 
lie. - (Galatians 1:18-20 - King James Version). 
 

 This account meets all the demands of historical reliability that could 
possibly be made of such a text, whilst A. M. Hunter said, The passage 
therefore preserves uniquely early and verifiable testimony. It meets every 
reasonable demand of historical reliability.
 

 1 Corinthians 15:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15
 

 On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:32 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
  when you add something you made up out of your own head that
  isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.
 
  Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
 defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and 
 the Ascension. 
 


 Which outrageous and false claims were these? Please be specific.
 

  You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a 
 Sunday Bible Class at a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a 
 history course at a community college? Apparently you don't even have a 
 pastor! Go figure. 
 

Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history 
courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible. 

 According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
 eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? 

 

 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the air above the 500 
eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.
 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 




 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
 Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.


 You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She was the 
first. It say so in the Bible - Mary Magdalene was the first to witness the 
resurrection of Christ. Can't you read?


 No, as you know, nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual 
resurrection. 

 

 

 Resurrection of Christ by Noel Coypel, 1700, using a hovering depiction of 
Jesus:
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Noel-coypel-the-resurrection-of-christ-1700.jpg
 

 The Resurrection of Jesus is the Christian belief that Jesus Christ 
miraculously returned to life on the Sunday following the Friday on which he 
was executed by crucifixion.
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_Jesus
 

 Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after 
death. 
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection
 

 On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:33 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
   Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you 
know.


  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection,
 
  as you know.You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene was a witness to the 
  resurrection - she 
 was the first to realize that Jesus had risen from the tomb and that 
 Jesus was the Christ. Mary was there, the first, she saw it with her own 
 eyes, she experienced it in her heart, and then she told the apostles 
 what had happened to Jesus - that he was raised from the dead and that 
 he had flown out of the tomb up into the air and then he flew off to 
 appear before the others. That's what I think. Most Christian agree with 
 me - nobody agrees with your outrageous and false claims. NOBODY. 
 Everyone on this list thinks you are lying about the Bible. EVERYONE. 
 You can't even read any Greek!


 
 
 
 




 



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 3:00 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Paul doesn't say anything about the risen Christ floating
  in the sky when he appeared to the 500 brethren.
 
So, where do you think the Christ appeared to the 500, under a rock? In 
order for 500 people to see Christ all at the same time, he would have 
to be up in the air. You are not even making any sense anymore. Don't 
you know anything about flying?


[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread jr_esq
Mike,
 

 In spite of the four blood moons being seen by self-proclaimed prophets, I 
don't think the Rapture is going to come any time soon, as interpreted by this 
guy:
 

 http://www.endtime.com/blog/the-coming-four-blood-moons/ 
http://www.endtime.com/blog/the-coming-four-blood-moons/



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 3:13 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Ordinary human beings speak to 500 or many more people
  all the time without being up in the sky.
 
So, you're thinking that Jesus appeared to the 500 behind a podium, 
bowing and scrapping like an ordinary human being? In that case, why do 
you have so many Bibles around your house? Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread Bhairitu
You do realize the concept of a messiah is about a useful as the 
Easter Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members 
of the masses.  There are NO supermen or superwomen.


On 01/02/2014 01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Buck,


It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But 
it would not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for 
the messiah until there are no more Jews left.







[FairfieldLife] Re: Messiah and Sharon's death!

2014-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

 You do realize the concept of a messiah is about a useful as the
 Easter Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members
 of the masses.  There are NO supermen or superwomen.

Exactly. How could anyone still be so ignorant as to believe otherwise?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 3:16 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as 
you know.
 
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw 
Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She was the first one 
to see the resurrection. She was there, she saw it, she was the one 
chosen by Jesus to witness the resurrection. Mary. The first one. I know 
she saw it - she said so in the Bible.

As Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were running from the empty tomb 
to inform the disciples that he is alive, Jesus tells the women to 
instruct the disciples to go to Galilee ahead of him to greet him 
(Matthew 28:10).

Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after 
death.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend


 Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know.
  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you 
  know.
 
You are mistaken. Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. She saw 
 Jesus die and then she saw him rise from the dead. She was the first one 
 to see the resurrection. She was there, she saw it, she was the one 
 chosen by Jesus to witness the resurrection. Mary. The first one. I know 
 she saw it - she said so in the Bible.
 
 As Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were running from the empty tomb 
 to inform the disciples that he is alive, Jesus tells the women to 
 instruct the disciples to go to Galilee ahead of him to greet him 
 (Matthew 28:10).
 
 Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after 
 death.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection



[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
 
 You do realize the concept of a messiah is about a useful as the 
 Easter Bunny. It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members 
 of the masses. There are NO supermen or superwomen.

 Exactly. How could anyone still be so ignorant as to believe otherwise?

Wha...?? Then who is this resurrected and risen??



 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
My Corinthians doesn't say anything about Jesus appearing to the five hundred 
in the air, just that five hundred followers saw him at once (New Living 
Translation).  But that shouldn't be too difficult since he spoke to five 
thousand on the side of a mountain when he fed them all with two fish and five 
loaves of bread at the sermon on the mount. As for Saul's conversion.Acts9:3 
tells us that while on the road to Damascus a brilliant light from heaven 
suddenly beamed down on him blinding him and Saul heard a voice asking why are 
you persecuting me? Saul asked who are you sir?  The voice replied I am 
Jesus... Saul later became known as Paul. He didn't actually see Jesus but a 
brilliant light that blinded him for days.

From: Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
 Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the 
 air above the 500 eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says 
 Christ appeared to them.

Where do you think the 500 people saw the risen Lord - under ground? Of course 
the risen Christ was up in the sky - how else do you think 500 people would 
have been able seen him all at one time? You're not even making any sense. 
Apparently you haven't received the Good News, or even Something Good is 
Happening. Go figure.

According to Paul, after the resurrection the risen Christ was seen above five 
hundred brethren all at once, floating in the sky. Paul himself on the road to 
Damascus saw the risen Lord up in the sky - in the clouds above.



La conversion de Saint Paul
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:La_conversion_de_Saint_Paul_Giordano_Nancy_3018.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_of_Paul_the_Apostle

After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the 
greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, 
he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. (Corinthians 1:6 - King James 
Version). 

Then after three years, I went up to Jerusalem to get acquainted with Cephas 
and stayed with him fifteen days. I saw none of the other apostles—only James, 
the Lord's brother. I assure you before God that what I am writing you is no 
lie. - (Galatians 1:18-20 - King James Version). 

This account meets all the demands of historical reliability that could 
possibly be made of such a text, whilst A. M. Hunter said, The passage 
therefore preserves uniquely early and verifiable testimony. It meets every 
reasonable demand of historical reliability.

1 Corinthians 15:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_Corinthians_15
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:32 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: 
  
 Next time you're talking about what the Bible says, Richard,
 when you add something you made up out of your own head that
 isn't in the Bible at all, it would be good if you'd say so.

 Let's get this on record, Ms Stein -it was YOU that cited the Bible in 
defense of your outrageous and false claims about the Resurrection and the 
Ascension. 


Which outrageous and false claims were these? Please be specific.


 You need to get your ducks in a row. And maybe take a Sunday Bible Class at 
a church somewhere. Did you ever consider taking a history course at a 
community college? Apparently you don't even have a pastor! Go figure. 
Actually, as you know, it's not necessary to take Bible classes or history 
courses or to have a pastor to know what's in the Bible. 
 According to Paul, the Christ hovered up in the air above 500 
eye-witnesses. Haven't you even read Pauls letter to the Corinthians? 


Paul doesn't say anything about Christ hovering up in the air above the 500 
eyewitnesses, as you know. He just says Christ appeared to them.










Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
ROFLMAO!


From: Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small  
 space of air beneath his feat*? 

Have you ever tried to walk around in the hot desert in your bare feet? A 
little cushion could go a long way. But there is always a small amount of air 
under anyone's feet, although it may be a tiny layer of air. There is air in 
everything. But, in fact Christ kept a small layer of air under his feet as a 
springboard, so he take off without having to hop on a mattress of foam. It's 
obvious.You're not even making any sense, Mike.

 Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk but 
 actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
 create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, 
 you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.

Now why on earth would the Christ want to bow and scrape on the ground? Are you 
thinking that when the Christ wants to take off and fly, that he would run and 
skip with his feet on the ground and flap his arms like an albatross? Go figure.
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: 
  
Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to 
walk but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could 
at least walk with your feet on the ground.



From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comTo: 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
  
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: One account of some of the first 
people to see Christ after resurrection said that they were walking towards 
Galilee and someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be Jesus. 
So, I guess He did do some walking.Sure, the Christ could appear to be 
walking if he wanted to. According to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could 
appear to be doing lots of things. The key word here is appeared to be 
walking. Every Gnostic knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it 
might have appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must 
have been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air under 
his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - it's like a 
spring board for launching.Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow 
and scrape to get off the ground? I guess she was on his level, the ground, 
not in the air because she was instructed not to cling
 to him. unless of course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.Of 
course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your girlfriend when 
you flew in to see her? Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread steve.sundur
Thanks Bob, 
 

 I enjoyed your comments.  And yes, I can't seem to make a post without some 
major typographical or spelling error. Sounds like a possible New Year's 
Resolution. (-:
 

 I like that image of the old boomers, standing in the corner etc., although I 
don't think I agree with it.  
 

 Grudging respect for Judy?  Sure. I like Judy and her smugness to some extent. 
 Ok, I'm not sure how well it work in a long term relationship, but hell, only 
a few of us seemed paired up anyway. (-:
 

 Back to the coal mines?  I'm feeling a little giddy right now.  Almost got 
through my first day back.  No major problems. Some decent business, and the 
hockey game tonight.
 

 Not bad.  
 

 Even found a day's work for my 20 yr. old son who's going back to Colo tonight 
with a College group of friends.  Yes, Colorado that is, after the first of the 
year.  Oh God!


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
I tend to have more sweat under my feet... but then I am a water sign.


From: Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com
To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

  
 Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small  
 space of air beneath his feat*? 

Have you ever tried to walk around in the hot desert in your bare feet? A 
little cushion could go a long way. But there is always a small amount of air 
under anyone's feet, although it may be a tiny layer of air. There is air in 
everything. But, in fact Christ kept a small layer of air under his feet as a 
springboard, so he take off without having to hop on a mattress of foam. It's 
obvious.You're not even making any sense, Mike.

 Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to walk but 
 actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
 create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, 
 you could at least walk with your feet on the ground.

Now why on earth would the Christ want to bow and scrape on the ground? Are you 
thinking that when the Christ wants to take off and fly, that he would run and 
skip with his feet on the ground and flap his arms like an albatross? Go figure.
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: 
  
Is there some reason why there would have to be some *small space of air 
beneath his feat*? Would it not be possible for Him to walk, not appear to 
walk but actually make contact with the earth? I would think that if you can 
create the world, including being able to raise yourself from death, you could 
at least walk with your feet on the ground.



From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comTo: 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 6:14 AM 
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row
  
On 1/1/2014 5:44 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: One account of some of the first 
people to see Christ after resurrection said that they were walking towards 
Galilee and someone joined them on their walk and it turned out to be Jesus. 
So, I guess He did do some walking.Sure, the Christ could appear to be 
walking if he wanted to. According to early Gnostic writings, Jesus could 
appear to be doing lots of things. The key word here is appeared to be 
walking. Every Gnostic knows that Jesus' body was an apparition body. So, it 
might have appeared that Jesus was walking, even moon-walking, but there must 
have been a small space of air beneath his feet. This small space of air under 
his feet is like a foam mattress in the Yogic Flying program - it's like a 
spring board for launching.Were you thinking that Jesus had to grunt, and bow 
and scrape to get off the ground? I guess she was on his level, the ground, 
not in the air because she was instructed not to cling
 to him. unless of course she was hovering as well when she first saw Him.Of 
course Jesus was on Mary's level - would you hover ABOVE your girlfriend when 
you flew in to see her? Go figure.


[FairfieldLife] RE: My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

2014-01-02 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 It really infuriates Barry when we address him directly. I wonder how he knows 
we do that, given that he claims never to read our posts. And why does he even 
care when he considers us not worth his time? (Speaking of ego...)
 

 Of course we're writing to the crowd. Everybody knows that. Barry's problem is 
that he's afraid, in the absence of a response from him, that we might well 
influence them. But of course he does respond to us, just not directly. 
Everybody knows that too. ;-)
 

 (For the record, I never read Richard's posts unless they're aimed at me or 
have to do with a thread I'm involved in.)
 

 It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but 
simple. 

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing directly to me 
-- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear that they never bother 
to read anything these people write -- would stop doing so. 

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and Bob. 

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words that I 
can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View mode in weeks. I 
will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post that you write here. Ever. 

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*, almost 
as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility of *ever* 
being worth my time in the future. 

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even though 
*everyone* here knows that you're really writing to the crowd, hoping to 
influence *them*. 

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like 
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response. You're not 
going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so why not write *to* 
the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here -- that 
you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you to think 
that other people feel the same way about the things you write. T'ain't true. 
That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've 
written you off. If you were half as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd 
have figured that out by now. 

That does it. I am now going to commit suicide by drowning myself in a 
combination of popcorn and the stuff you put over apples to make them all 
caramelly and gooey.

 





 


[FairfieldLife] RE: My fondest wish for FFL for 2014

2014-01-02 Thread bobpriced


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 It's pretty simple, actually. Unrealistic, given the egos involved, but 
simple. 

I just wish that a few people who *pretend* that they're writing directly to me 
-- or to one of the other posters who have made it clear that they never bother 
to read anything these people write -- would stop doing so. 

Be *honest*, for once. I'm talking to you (directly :-), Judy, Ann, and Bob. 

I haven't read anything in *any* of your posts other than the few words that I 
can't avoid seeing when scanning the newsgroup in Message View mode in weeks. I 
will *never* read -- or respond to -- any full post that you write here. Ever. 

Get over it. Learn to live with the fact that you've been *written off*, almost 
as if you were simply not worth my time, and have no possibility of *ever* 
being worth my time in the future. 

Either that, or continue to *pretend* to be writing directly to me, even though 
*everyone* here knows that you're really writing to the crowd, hoping to 
influence *them*. 

What you're doing is silly, it's juvenile, and it makes *you* look like 
out-of-control egos trolling desperately for some kind of response. You're not 
going to get one from those of us who've written you off, so why not write *to* 
the people you still hope to get one from, eh?

Those of us the three of you stalk know -- as does everyone else here -- that 
you read *every* word of *every* post we write. Your NPD causes you to think 
that other people feel the same way about the things you write. T'ain't true. 
That is YOUR failing, YOUR psychosis, and YOUR samskara, not ours. We've 
written you off. If you were half as smart as you like to pose as being, you'd 
have figured that out by now. 
 

 Barry, you old bag lady, of course you don't read our posts - stop getting so 
hysterical; now, when are you going to start that new thread I suggested:
 

 Traveling with the voice in my head, why every thought I have is an idea.
 

 
 






[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread jr_esq
Bhairitu,
 

 For the Hassidic and conservative Jews, the messiah is a very specific 
expectation that they believe is written in the Torah.  For example, they 
expect their messiah to be a political leader who would restore the glory of 
the kingdom of David and Solomon.  For this reason, the Jews today and 
yesteryear reject the teachings of Jesus.
 

 IMO, this same expectation is causing the political unrest in the Middle East 
today.  Specifically, the Israelis have created an apartheid government in 
Palestine against the people who rightfully own the land that the Israelis are 
occupying.


[FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread cardemaister
But errare humanum est, ain't it? Please keep mind that the great Albert 
Einstein didn't
believe in HUP and stuff like quantum entanglement which is as counterintuitive 
as it gets?!



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
Oh Geee! I guess there are a lot of people putting out stuff on the coming four 
blood moons. I'm not trying to say it will have anything to do with the 
rapture. But it could have something to do with the end times. It seems too 
much of a coincidence for these four lunar eclipses to happen on very specific  
Jewish feasts. I heard John Hagee speak on them  and it sounded very 
interesting.


From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

  
Mike,

In spite of the four blood moons being seen by self-proclaimed prophets, I 
don't think the Rapture is going to come any time soon, as interpreted by this 
guy:

http://www.endtime.com/blog/the-coming-four-blood-moons/



Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

2014-01-02 Thread Mike Dixon
Yeah, we all know that religion is the *opiate* of the people.


From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

  
You do realize the concept of a messiah is about a useful as the Easter 
Bunny.  It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members of the masses.  
There are NO supermen or superwomen.On 01/02/2014 01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
  
Buck,


It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But it would 
not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for the messiah until 
there are no more Jews left.


Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Holding back

2014-01-02 Thread bobpriced


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote:

 Thanks Bob, 
 

 I enjoyed your comments.  And yes, I can't seem to make a post without some 
major typographical or spelling error. Sounds like a possible New Year's 
Resolution. (-:
 

 I like that image of the old boomers, standing in the corner etc., although I 
don't think I agree with it.  
 

 Grudging respect for Judy?  Sure. I like Judy and her smugness to some extent. 
 Ok, I'm not sure how well it work in a long term relationship, but hell, only 
a few of us seemed paired up anyway. (-:
 

 Back to the coal mines?  I'm feeling a little giddy right now.  Almost got 
through my first day back.  No major problems. Some decent business, and the 
hockey game tonight.
 

 Not bad.  
 

 Even found a day's work for my 20 yr. old son who's going back to Colo tonight 
with a College group of friends.  Yes, Colorado that is, after the first of the 
year.  Oh God!
 

 Thanks Steve,
  
 In reference to my return to the coal mines, the year has started off nicely. 
  
 Someone told me the year of the horse will be a good for Hermes*; that being 
the case, I figure, among others, it will be good for you, Ann, and me.
  
 * He is protector and patron of travelers, herdsmen, thieves, orators and 
wit, literature and poets, athletics and sports, invention and trade!
 

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes 

 

 
 All the best.




Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon#39;s death!

2014-01-02 Thread Bhairitu
That's their problem.  We can reject such silly beliefs.  There is no 
such thing as a magic land either.


On 01/02/2014 01:57 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:


Bhairitu,


For the Hassidic and conservative Jews, the messiah is a very specific 
expectation that they believe is written in the Torah.  For example, 
they expect their messiah to be a political leader who would restore 
the glory of the kingdom of David and Solomon.  For this reason, the 
Jews today and yesteryear reject the teachings of Jesus.



IMO, this same expectation is causing the political unrest in the 
Middle East today.  Specifically, the Israelis have created an 
apartheid government in Palestine against the people who rightfully 
own the land that the Israelis are occupying.







Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!

2014-01-02 Thread Bhairitu

Now you're getting it!

On 01/02/2014 02:02 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

Yeah, we all know that religion is the *opiate* of the people.

*From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, January 2, 2014 1:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Messiah and Sharon's death!
You do realize the concept of a messiah is about a useful as the 
Easter Bunny. It's a myth used for mind control over ignorant members 
of the masses.  There are NO supermen or superwomen.On 01/02/2014 
01:08 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com wrote:

Buck,

It's not likely that the messiah will appear after Sharon dies.  But 
it would not matter to the Israelis.  They will continue to wait for 
the messiah until there are no more Jews left.






[FairfieldLife] Greatest Artists of Punk Rock

2014-01-02 Thread Richard Williams
The Sex Pistols

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God Save the Queen (Studio)
http://youtu.be/8z2M_hpoPwk

Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols
http://youtu.be/kbaF8F-DasM

We saw this band in 1978 when they performed in San Antonio. During the
concert Sid Vicious called the crowd a bunch of faggots, before striking
an audience member across the head with his bass guitar. Nice! For this the
audience pelted the band with beer cans and beer bottles and called Sid a
bloody limey and yelled go home. Go figure.

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The Sex Pistols were an English punk rock band that formed in London in
1975. They were responsible for initiating the punk movement in the United
Kingdom and inspiring many later punk and alternative rock musicians.
Although their original career lasted just two-and-a-half years and
produced only four singles and one studio album,

Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols, they are regarded as one
of the most influential acts in the history of popular music. Their 1977
single God Save the Queen, attacking social conformity and deference to
the Crown, precipitated the last and greatest outbreak of pop-based moral
pandemonium. Rolling Stone Magazine ranked the Sex Pistols No. 58 on its
list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time.

Read more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_Pistols

'Please Kill Me: The Uncensored Oral History of Punk'
by Legs McNeil and Gillian McCain
Grove Press, 2013


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 3:46 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as 
you know.
 
Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible. 
Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life. She was the 
first to see the resurrection. In the Bible.

Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after
death.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/2/2014 3:47 PM, Mike Dixon wrote:

  He didn't actually see Jesus but a brilliant light that blinded him 
for days.
 
Jesus Christ appeared to be a brilliant light up in the sky - Paul saw 
it and he spoke to the Christ. Where else do you think light comes from, 
if not up in the sky? From a fire fly?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Get Your Ducks in a Row

2014-01-02 Thread authfriend
Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you know. 
  Nobody is said in the Bible to have seen the actual resurrection, as you 
  know.
 

 Mary Magdalene saw the actual resurrection. It says so in the Bible. 
 Mary saw Jesus dead and she saw Jesus come back to life. She was the 
 first to see the resurrection. In the Bible.
 
 Resurrection is the concept of a living being coming back to life after
 death.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection



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