Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Richard, I read this and think it's true: it's not that people get old and stop moving. It's that they stop moving and get old. I think there are some deep seated beliefs about all this too. For example, that it's natural to become less mobile as we age. I bet there are some indigenous cultures that regularly demonstrate how inaccurate that is! On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:43 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:02 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: This is a big jump in weight and although I am pretty fit due to the fact that I have always been active The key word here is active - you'd be surprised how many older people are inactive because they have simply lost almost all of their muscle strength. You can be thin, but if you're weak you won't get to do anything anyway except lay on the couch and watch TV. There's NOTHING like being active. You know you're weak when you can't get out of bed and make it to the bathroom. Rita and I go to the gym every day and go out dancing almost every Friday night. One guy that I know doesn't even get up until after noon - I had to go help him get some books out of his attic the other day. Go figure. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
Ann, it would be interesting to hook up to EEG apparatus some people who are blanking and compare their brain waves to people practicing TM. And just for fun, let's throw in some people practicing mindfulness! On Monday, March 3, 2014 11:46 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Exactly right. To call transcending an experience confuses the issue when you get down to the nitty-gritty. I don't think it's gobbledygook semantics, it's just that we don't have a language of transcendence, so we often have to go through semantic contortions. Exactly, there doesn't seem to be an exact language to really describe it because I'm not sure it's describable as we don't actually experience it except for afterwards perhaps thinking we had just transcended because we realize we were not thinking anything. Just trying to define it makes me confused. As far as I'm concerned transcendence seems like blanking. We're told this is a good thing. I guess I'll have to take other's word for it. You make an excellent point when you saythe line between being conscious of something and having a thought about that something is very fine if not non-existent. It is non-existent! And that's crucial to the mechanics of TM. BTW, when Seraphita says, So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says, she is referring--I think!--not to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi but to Ramana Maharshi. I could be wrong, but I don't think MMY ever gave any such instruction with regard to waking, unless it was some sort of specialized advanced technique. I don't remember MMY saying anything about this but I'm no authority on him or TM for that matter. - Maharishi said that everyone passes through transcendence as they go from one state of consciousness to another (waking to dreaming to sleeping and back again). He probably would not have recommended trying to hold one's awareness in that in-between stage, at least not for ordinary meditators. Sounds to me as though Ramana Maharshi was turning a description of his spontaneous experience into a prescription for practice instead of just letting it develop naturally in his students. Ann, one might well not notice an instant of transcendence between waking and sleeping--it's easy enough to miss when one is meditating (since there's quite literally nothing to it, nothing to be aware of). Yes, and I make this point in a recent post to Seraphita. You know, this transcendence business is a funny one because it seems like you only realize you were transcending after the fact and that is kind of like having had amnesia and someone tells you that for the last five minutes you were bellydancing except you don't remember a thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's The transition between waking and sleeping is not transcendence in my book. It is full of thoughts and awareness that do not feel transcendental at all.: So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says. You have to hold your awareness at the point you wake up *before* thoughts arise. Presumably it worked for Ramana because he was in a state of Unity already; his suggestion is that it could work for others also. I mention him as his ideas rather nicely dovetail with Lynch's description of transcending during meditation. And I mention Lynch and the commentator on the article as their take on TM as an intermediate state between sleep and waking is more helpful than the Official TM approach using bubble diagrams. Re Richard's Meditation means to think things over. So, TM meditation is based on thinking. Anyone who can think is probably already practising a basic meditation.: If meditation means thinking then Transcendental Meditation suggests going beyond thinking. But meditation only means thinking in western contexts. Easterners use whatever word they use in their language for meditation in a sense closer to western ideas of contemplation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Richard and Alex, thanks for the good info about the best exercise and noozguru, the bit about doshas is a great reminder for me being pure pitta. Not good to get overheated! On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:17 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: We don't eat any sugar anymore, or very many carbs except for some whole grains. We are not into packaged foods of any kind these days. We are eating mostly organic vegetables, chicken and organic beef from Whole Foods Market. Rita has tried to limit her caloric intake to 1200 calories per day and work outs at the gym every day for one hour. It helps if you have a personal trainer. You can turn fat into muscle using the body's basic patterns of movement: simply do squats, dead lifts and chin ups and you have the basics. Each day you just lift a little more weight each time - barbells or other weights. What you have to do is keep at it every day - don't stop. It's that simple. According to what I've read, the best exercises to use are the ones that involve the most muscle mass and the greatest number of joints, and exercises that require you to balance yourself while you’re doing them. I promise you this: If you do the squats and dead lifts at proper levels of weight, your body will build muscle and strength. You can do this with a barbell- just put a bar on your back and squat below parallel; or press a bar overhead; or pick a bar up from the ground and set it back down. These are normal human movement patterns that can be turned into progressively heavier exercises that make you strong the way your body moves naturally. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Didn't read the article, did you? It's not even very long. On 03/03/2014 04:54 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014 3:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote: We've had some heated discussions here about weight loss because I claim the rather naive theory that you lose weight by burning more calories than you take in. Just do the math - but that's not the entire solution. Do you realize how long you'd have to stay on a treadmill to burn even a small part of 1800 calories, the average adult daily intake? It's good to burn calories but it's also important to build muscles to replace the fat. What you've got to do is carefully select what you eat and consume food in smaller proportions, and get some good exercise. The most important aspect of healthy living is life style - get the right mind set, cultivate beneficial habits and keep at it. It's not easy, but it's not complicated. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
I've also read that when people acquire more muscle mass, they naturally burn more calories, even when they're sleeping! Maybe it has to do with the metabolic rate increasing. I've been eating Larabars all winter. They're basically dates and nuts. But I think even the dates are too much sugar for me. Bye bye Larabars )-: On Monday, March 3, 2014 8:41 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/3/2014 7:53 PM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: It's true that not all calories are the same, but without a caloric deficit, weight loss will not occur. The average American diet is supposed to be around 1800 calories per day. If you do simple math you could have a caloric deficit if you consumed only 1700 calories. But it would take years to lose weight at that rate. So, if you bring your caloric intake down to 1200 you'd lose more weight over time. And, you could lose even more by burning calories on a tread mill. It takes about thirty-minutes on a treadmill to burn 300 calories. So, you'd think that in just a few months anyone could get their BMI to a target goal. Go figure. But, there re some real problems with the simple math: not only are all calories not alike but not all people burn calories at the same rate and everyone has a different stamina they can maintai. In addition to the above, what you've got to do is also build muscles to replace the fat. I'm recommending weight training and doing squats - lift a little more weight today than you did last time, and keep doing so for as long as possible. It's not complicated. 'Squats, Presses, and Deadlifts: Why Gyms Don’t Teach the Only Exercises You Need' http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/squats-presses-and-deadlifts/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] I saw a UFO recently
No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
[FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
I'm not sure what blanking refers to, actually. Could you explain? I remember as a child deciding it was impossible to stop thinking. I worked at it and worked at it, but I'd always catch myself watching to see whether I wasn't thinking, and I realized that the watching was itself a form of thinking. There was no way around it, as far as I could tell; it was a catch-22. Exactly right. To call transcending an experience confuses the issue when you get down to the nitty-gritty. I don't think it's gobbledygook semantics, it's just that we don't have a language of transcendence, so we often have to go through semantic contortions. Exactly, there doesn't seem to be an exact language to really describe it because I'm not sure it's describable as we don't actually experience it except for afterwards perhaps thinking we had just transcended because we realize we were not thinking anything. Just trying to define it makes me confused. As far as I'm concerned transcendence seems like blanking. We're told this is a good thing. I guess I'll have to take other's word for it. You make an excellent point when you say the line between being conscious of something and having a thought about that something is very fine if not non-existent. It is non-existent! And that's crucial to the mechanics of TM. BTW, when Seraphita says, So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says, she is referring--I think!--not to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi but to Ramana Maharshi. I could be wrong, but I don't think MMY ever gave any such instruction with regard to waking, unless it was some sort of specialized advanced technique. I don't remember MMY saying anything about this but I'm no authority on him or TM for that matter. - Maharishi said that everyone passes through transcendence as they go from one state of consciousness to another (waking to dreaming to sleeping and back again). He probably would not have recommended trying to hold one's awareness in that in-between stage, at least not for ordinary meditators. Sounds to me as though Ramana Maharshi was turning a description of his spontaneous experience into a prescription for practice instead of just letting it develop naturally in his students. Ann, one might well not notice an instant of transcendence between waking and sleeping--it's easy enough to miss when one is meditating (since there's quite literally nothing to it, nothing to be aware of). Yes, and I make this point in a recent post to Seraphita. You know, this transcendence business is a funny one because it seems like you only realize you were transcending after the fact and that is kind of like having had amnesia and someone tells you that for the last five minutes you were bellydancing except you don't remember a thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's The transition between waking and sleeping is not transcendence in my book. It is full of thoughts and awareness that do not feel transcendental at all.: So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says. You have to hold your awareness at the point you wake up *before* thoughts arise. Presumably it worked for Ramana because he was in a state of Unity already; his suggestion is that it could work for others also. I mention him as his ideas rather nicely dovetail with Lynch's description of transcending during meditation. And I mention Lynch and the commentator on the article as their take on TM as an intermediate state between sleep and waking is more helpful than the Official TM approach using bubble diagrams. Re Richard's Meditation means to think things over. So, TM meditation is based on thinking. Anyone who can think is probably already practising a basic meditation.: If meditation means thinking then Transcendental Meditation suggests going beyond thinking. But meditation only means thinking in western contexts. Easterners use whatever word they use in their language for meditation in a sense closer to western ideas of contemplation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard and Alex, thanks for the good info about the best exercise and noozguru, the bit about doshas is a great reminder for me being pure pitta. Not good to get overheated! On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:17 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: We don't eat any sugar anymore, or very many carbs except for some whole grains. We are not into packaged foods of any kind these days. We are eating mostly organic vegetables, chicken and organic beef from Whole Foods Market. Rita has tried to limit her caloric intake to 1200 calories per day and work outs at the gym every day for one hour. It helps if you have a personal trainer. You can turn fat into muscle using the body's basic patterns of movement: simply do squats, dead lifts and chin ups and you have the basics. Each day you just lift a little more weight each time - barbells or other weights. What you have to do is keep at it every day - don't stop. It's that simple. According to what I've read, the best exercises to use are the ones that involve the most muscle mass and the greatest number of joints, and exercises that require you to balance yourself while you’re doing them. I promise you this: If you do the squats and dead lifts at proper levels of weight, your body will build muscle and strength. You can do this with a barbell- just put a bar on your back and squat below parallel; or press a bar overhead; or pick a bar up from the ground and set it back down. These are normal human movement patterns that can be turned into progressively heavier exercises that make you strong the way your body moves naturally. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Didn't read the article, did you? It's not even very long. On 03/03/2014 04:54 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014 3:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote: We've had some heated discussions here about weight loss because I claim the rather naive theory that you lose weight by burning more calories than you take in. Just do the math - but that's not the entire solution. Do you realize how long you'd have to stay on a treadmill to burn even a small part of 1800 calories, the average adult daily intake? It's good to burn calories but it's also important to build muscles to replace the fat. What you've got to do is carefully select what you eat and consume food in smaller proportions, and get some good exercise. The most important aspect of healthy living is life style - get the right mind set, cultivate beneficial habits and keep at it. It's not easy, but it's not complicated. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
It must have been a psychological suggestion about exercise. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote : Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Yes, so true. Sitting around doesn't work for me - too much left to do. Also, the TMSP really does eliminate deep metabolic stress, so the body ages *much* more slowly, and it also loses much of its coarseness, and overly acidic nature. All the food fights stop too - lol. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I read this and think it's true: it's not that people get old and stop moving. It's that they stop moving and get old. I think there are some deep seated beliefs about all this too. For example, that it's natural to become less mobile as we age. I bet there are some indigenous cultures that regularly demonstrate how inaccurate that is! On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:43 PM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/3/2014 9:02 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: This is a big jump in weight and although I am pretty fit due to the fact that I have always been active The key word here is active - you'd be surprised how many older people are inactive because they have simply lost almost all of their muscle strength. You can be thin, but if you're weak you won't get to do anything anyway except lay on the couch and watch TV. There's NOTHING like being active. You know you're weak when you can't get out of bed and make it to the bathroom. Rita and I go to the gym every day and go out dancing almost every Friday night. One guy that I know doesn't even get up until after noon - I had to go help him get some books out of his attic the other day. Go figure. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Couldn't find anyadose either. Musta been subliminal... It must have been a psychological suggestion about exercise. Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Dr. D, Dang Yahoo neo again; can't find your address and send e-mail direct. But, Nice perspective photo of the birds and planes. I have an offspring that flies that kind of airliner, a, Q400 with humongous high-tech jet like turboprops. Started a career looking at birds and flying little planes like in the photo. -Buck No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
[FairfieldLife] RE: Songs of The Revolution
The SCI Song: It's time for SCI It's time for SCI The Science of Creative Intelligence The Knowledge of the fullness of life. It's the practical application Of Transcendental Meditation. Yep like, Veda Leela: .. One unbounded ocean of consciousness in motion in waves of creation flowing, an ocean of knowingness, ocean of consciousness. One unbounded ocean of consciousness in motion, in waves of the veda flowing, ocean of knowingness, ocean of consciousness. One unbounded ocean of consciousness in motion, fully awake within itself, consciousness fully knows itself, consciousness, knows itself When consciousness knows itself it becomes both knower and known When the knower knows the known the dynamics are called the process of knowing Knower knowing and known Knower knowing and known Knower knowing and known In the language of the Veda these three are known as Rishi, Devata, and Chhandas. Rishi is the knower Devata the knowing Chhandas is the known together they are flowing In one unbounded ocean of consciousness in motion the samhita of the veda is flowing as knower knowing and known knower knowing and known The samhita, of rishi, devata and chhandas put together they are three in one reality In one unbounded ocean of consciousness One appears as three while remaining unity One appears as three while remaining unity Doc, I love reading the song titles for those tracks on the album cover. I have found from the studying of other historic spiritual groups like ours you can often get in the minds and hearts of members then by looking at the text of their songs. The song text a lot of times have their ideology embedded in them. As part of these revolutionary movements the songs they often would sing as groups or for entertainment though corny at times were often fun and patriotic to the group for the people who were there at the time. I was at a conference last year with a whole bunch of academics and we took a tour of the historic village of Zoar, Ohio, early settled by German mystics. On the tour of the historic village we went in to their big brick meeting house the Zoarites built and the tour guide described something to the effect, 'that this is where he gave his sermons'. Upon the word 'sermon' you could see this collective shudder in the tour group about the thought of listening to sermons. But the meeting house had amazing acoustics for singing and the spoken word could be easily heard anywhere in the meeting house. It was really cool. I had got to Zoar the night before and looked around on my own and noted this remarkable feature about the Meeting House. The thing to explain to these modern day folks though from the perspective of being inside vital revolutionary spiritual groups the meetings were actually fun to be in. The members knew the language of the shared experience and had developed their own songs to go along with the cultural dynamic of the movement. At the time of these mystical separatist groups like Zoar forming in America they were unified and having fun doing it. I was at Oneida in New York a couple years ago and interviewed some aged people who were part of Oneida and they said the same thing. What they remember about the community was that it was fun. The community was really fun to be part of. Likewise it was with TM in its day and for those still in it now. -U.S. Buck in the Dome The Doctor writes: I have been going through several lifetimes worth of belongings, and came across this record, that I probably bought in the Communist Chinese store, Hong Kong, c. 1970. (So *that's* how they won...): https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz https://app.box.com/s/jjxylhxkkwc3bu31m9tz .. .
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
For inscrutable reasons, Yahoo has decreed that we can no longer send private email via Neo on the Web site. You can send posts/messages only to the group. They made this change about two weeks ago. Dr. D, Dang Yahoo neo again; can't find your address and send e-mail direct. But, Nice perspective photo of the birds and planes. I have an offspring that flies that kind of airliner, a, Q400 with humongous high-tech jet like turboprops. Started a career looking at birds and flying little planes like in the photo. -Buck No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj Really interesting shot of these three different styles of airborne mobility. Thanks for sharing.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : I'm not sure what blanking refers to, actually. Could you explain? I remember as a child deciding it was impossible to stop thinking. I worked at it and worked at it, but I'd always catch myself watching to see whether I wasn't thinking, and I realized that the watching was itself a form of thinking. There was no way around it, as far as I could tell; it was a catch-22. Exactly. I did the same thing. I remember as a child doing this kind of thing, trying to see things like thought or no thought and of course, if I was aware I was not thinking or thinking I was not thinking then I just had a thought. What I meant by blanking is, again, something you only realize afterwards that you were doing once you're not doing it (blanking) anymore. You might find yourself simply staring at something and you are aware you have been doing this for a little bit of time and you also realized that you weren't actually thinking about anything because all of a sudden you are thinking about the fact you were staring and not thinking! Sort of hard to explain, but basically blanking is doing and thinking 'nothing'. Exactly right. To call transcending an experience confuses the issue when you get down to the nitty-gritty. I don't think it's gobbledygook semantics, it's just that we don't have a language of transcendence, so we often have to go through semantic contortions. Exactly, there doesn't seem to be an exact language to really describe it because I'm not sure it's describable as we don't actually experience it except for afterwards perhaps thinking we had just transcended because we realize we were not thinking anything. Just trying to define it makes me confused. As far as I'm concerned transcendence seems like blanking. We're told this is a good thing. I guess I'll have to take other's word for it. You make an excellent point when you say the line between being conscious of something and having a thought about that something is very fine if not non-existent. It is non-existent! And that's crucial to the mechanics of TM. BTW, when Seraphita says, So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says, she is referring--I think!--not to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi but to Ramana Maharshi. I could be wrong, but I don't think MMY ever gave any such instruction with regard to waking, unless it was some sort of specialized advanced technique. I don't remember MMY saying anything about this but I'm no authority on him or TM for that matter. - Maharishi said that everyone passes through transcendence as they go from one state of consciousness to another (waking to dreaming to sleeping and back again). He probably would not have recommended trying to hold one's awareness in that in-between stage, at least not for ordinary meditators. Sounds to me as though Ramana Maharshi was turning a description of his spontaneous experience into a prescription for practice instead of just letting it develop naturally in his students. Ann, one might well not notice an instant of transcendence between waking and sleeping--it's easy enough to miss when one is meditating (since there's quite literally nothing to it, nothing to be aware of). Yes, and I make this point in a recent post to Seraphita. You know, this transcendence business is a funny one because it seems like you only realize you were transcending after the fact and that is kind of like having had amnesia and someone tells you that for the last five minutes you were bellydancing except you don't remember a thing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Re Ann's The transition between waking and sleeping is not transcendence in my book. It is full of thoughts and awareness that do not feel transcendental at all.: So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says. You have to hold your awareness at the point you wake up *before* thoughts arise. Presumably it worked for Ramana because he was in a state of Unity already; his suggestion is that it could work for others also. I mention him as his ideas rather nicely dovetail with Lynch's description of transcending during meditation. And I mention Lynch and the commentator on the article as their take on TM as an intermediate state between sleep and waking is more helpful than the Official TM approach using bubble diagrams. Re Richard's Meditation means to think things over. So, TM meditation is based on thinking. Anyone who can think is probably already practising a basic meditation.: If meditation means thinking then Transcendental Meditation suggests going beyond thinking. But meditation only means thinking in western contexts. Easterners use whatever word they use in their language for meditation in a sense closer to western ideas of contemplation.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
On the far left of the edit box toolbar (that has all the text/font/URL/etc. icons) there's an icon with two downward pointing chevrons that says Expand header. If you click that, it gives you a pull down menu on the To: header with options to mail privately. Have you tried that and found it doesn't work? Or, have you not found where that feature is buried? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote : For inscrutable reasons, Yahoo has decreed that we can no longer send private email via Neo on the Web site. You can send posts/messages only to the group. They made this change about two weeks ago. Dr. D, Dang Yahoo neo again; can't find your address and send e-mail direct. But, Nice perspective photo of the birds and planes. I have an offspring that flies that kind of airliner, a, Q400 with humongous high-tech jet like turboprops. Started a career looking at birds and flying little planes like in the photo. -Buck No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
On 3/4/2014 7:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. Alex recently posted that he moved his stationary bicycle into his home office, so we can assume he's exercising on it. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard recently posted that it would be ideal to have a personal trainer for an exercise program. Anytime you do almost anything you are weight lifting and putting strain on the joints. I couldn't find any posts from Judy describing her own personal fitness program. I wonder if she is still doing the yoga asanas recommended by MMY? I find yoga poses very helpful in maintaining a good range of motion. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Judy, good point about having a trainer. After 7 weeks my knee is still wonky and I wouldn't dare do one squat on it! And I went and figured and you're right about Alex's contribution. It was on the topic of calories. Good catch! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard and Alex, thanks for the good info about the best exercise and noozguru, the bit about doshas is a great reminder for me being pure pitta. Not good to get overheated! On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:17 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: We don't eat any sugar anymore, or very many carbs except for some whole grains. We are not into packaged foods of any kind these days. We are eating mostly organic vegetables, chicken and organic beef from Whole Foods Market. Rita has tried to limit her caloric intake to 1200 calories per day and work outs at the gym every day for one hour. It helps if you have a personal trainer. You can turn fat into muscle using the body's basic patterns of movement: simply do squats, dead lifts and chin ups and you have the basics. Each day you just lift a little more weight each time - barbells or other weights. What you have to do is keep at it every day - don't stop. It's that simple. According to what I've read, the best exercises to use are the ones that involve the most muscle mass and the greatest number of joints, and exercises that require you to balance yourself while you’re doing them. I promise you this: If you do the squats and dead lifts at proper levels of weight, your body will build muscle and strength. You can do this with a barbell- just put a bar on your back and squat below parallel; or press a bar overhead; or pick a bar up from the ground and set it back down. These are normal human movement patterns that can be turned into progressively heavier exercises that make you strong the way your body moves naturally. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Didn't read the article, did you? It's not even very long. On 03/03/2014 04:54 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014 3:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote: We've had some heated discussions here about weight loss because I claim the rather naive theory that you lose weight by burning more calories than you take in. Just do the math - but that's not the entire solution. Do you realize how long you'd have to stay on a treadmill to burn even a small part of 1800 calories, the average adult daily intake? It's good to burn calories but it's also important to build muscles to replace the fat. What you've got to do is carefully select what you eat and consume food in smaller proportions, and get some good exercise. The most important aspect of healthy living is life style - get the right mind set, cultivate beneficial habits and keep at it. It's not easy, but it's not complicated. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Richard, thanks again and one point about the TM asanas: they're for the general public. I found out that doing the shoulder stand can aggravate a condition I have, pre glaucoma. So I'd caution people to do some research before they adopt any set of asanas that's not specifically designed for them. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:25 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. Alex recently posted that he moved his stationary bicycle into his home office, so we can assume he's exercising on it. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard recently posted that it would be ideal to have a personal trainer for an exercise program. Anytime you do almost anything you are weight lifting and putting strain on the joints. I couldn't find any posts from Judy describing her own personal fitness program. I wonder if she is still doing the yoga asanas recommended by MMY? I find yoga poses very helpful in maintaining a good range of motion. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
This is a good example of how using automated settings on cameras blow out highlights when most of the other part of the picture is darkish. IF it was a UFO there would certainly have been some kind of structure to it that is lost due to overexposure. But walking around with a camera set on S, O or A it would certainly take some nerve to switch to manual to get a good exposure when you encounter something really strange in the sky. Can't guarantee I would be able to do that knowing that a good programme like Lightroom and Photoshop would be able to recover at least some of the seemingly blown-out parts. But if it's really blown out the info there is gone forever. Another thing is that sometimes UFO's can appear and disappear in seconds. When a huge Mothership passed above my balcony in Berlin I had no chance of running to get the camera. It was a beautiful sight though ! Loved your photo of the bird and planes :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Thanks - There was no structural detail on the object - it was disk shaped, with a smooth, flat, or slightly convex, surface. Yes, the bird and planes was an amazing coincidence. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is a good example of how using automated settings on cameras blow out highlights when most of the other part of the picture is darkish. IF it was a UFO there would certainly have been some kind of structure to it that is lost due to overexposure. But walking around with a camera set on S, O or A it would certainly take some nerve to switch to manual to get a good exposure when you encounter something really strange in the sky. Can't guarantee I would be able to do that knowing that a good programme like Lightroom and Photoshop would be able to recover at least some of the seemingly blown-out parts. But if it's really blown out the info there is gone forever. Another thing is that sometimes UFO's can appear and disappear in seconds. When a huge Mothership passed above my balcony in Berlin I had no chance of running to get the camera. It was a beautiful sight though ! Loved your photo of the bird and planes :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Right, this image is over-exposed, the image is clipped in the digital sensor, zero detail. I once saw an object like this in the evening, in the San Francisco Bay Area, really brilliant. I did not know what it was, so I suppose I could have called it an unidentified flying object. It did not seem to move much. I trained a small reflector telescope on it which had a magnification of 60x and that revealed the object as a weather balloon. It must have been near its maximum altitude because the shape was close to spherical except at the bottom where the instrumentation gondola was, it had inflated to its maximum extent.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Always wanted to get my pilot's license -- I was amazed when I first saw that turboprop, as the wing and tail surfaces simply don't look big enough to generate the lift needed. Those engines are amazing, too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Dr. D, Dang Yahoo neo again; can't find your address and send e-mail direct. But, Nice perspective photo of the birds and planes. I have an offspring that flies that kind of airliner, a, Q400 with humongous high-tech jet like turboprops. Started a career looking at birds and flying little planes like in the photo. -Buck No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
I haven't experienced this myself but some people report that when seeing a UFO the object would change it's course of travel, perhaps halting altogether or coming closer, if the viewer greats the thing with friendly words while staying calm and not getting agitated.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Thanks - I was zooming in on the turboprop, the single engine plane had just flown over my yard, and the seagulls were sporadically flying towards the bay. click. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj Really interesting shot of these three different styles of airborne mobility. Thanks for sharing.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
In my case, it stayed perfectly still, and it was the weirdest thing, but I definitely felt it watching me, and the feeling became more intense, as I scrutinized it. It was miles up, directly above my backyard, inside earth's atmosphere, and had consciousness. Not scary, as I might have imagined, but definitely a unique experience. Definitely changed my opinion of such phenomenon, from quite skeptical, to very possible. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I haven't experienced this myself but some people report that when seeing a UFO the object would change it's course of travel, perhaps halting altogether or coming closer, if the viewer greats the thing with friendly words while staying calm and not getting agitated.
[FairfieldLife] Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Every Adult
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
On 3/4/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, good point about having a trainer. Rita has tried to limit her caloric intake to 1200 calories per day and work outs at the gym every day for one hour. It helps if you have a personal trainer. http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg308706.html --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Children Trying to Use a Rotary Dial Telephone
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[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
We should remember that the vast majority of UFO's are coming from very friendly and responsible quarters of our solar-system. The fear of aliens largely created by Hollywood is ridiculous and should disappear. Benjamin Crème calls them our Space Brothers. Read more here: http://www.share-international.org/archives/UFOs/space-bros-reality.htm http://www.share-international.org/archives/UFOs/space-bros-reality.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Richard, Judy's point about possible injury was especially pertinent to me because of my knee situation. And honestly, there's no way I could thank you for every post of yours that I enjoy and or benefit from because if I did, I might crash Neo! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:11 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/4/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, good point about having a trainer. Rita has tried to limit her caloric intake to 1200 calories per day and work outs at the gym every day for one hour. It helps if you have a personal trainer. http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com/msg308706.html --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
On 3/4/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long wrote: And I went and figured and you're right about Alex's contribution. It was on the topic of calories. Good catch! This must be a sign of Judy's own feeble-minded-ness. I'm sure this won't be lost on Steve. Look, People, if you're going to join in the converstions, you are supposed to read the messages BEFORE you post your own comments. LoL! I think the topic is sugar intake and feeling better. But, my contention is that limiting sugar intake AND exercise will make you feel much better than limiting sugar intake alone. There's probably no way to limit sugar intake 100%. Not sure if Alex is using the exercise bicycle he moved into his office, but I assumed that he was. Go figure. Funny you should mention that, because just a few days ago, I moved my exercise bike from the living room, where it sat unused in front of the 50 Sony, to my office. Since I mostly watch stuff on my office PC, I figured I'd be more likely to use the bike in there. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/371409 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, thanks again and one point about the TM asanas: they're for the general public. I found out that doing the shoulder stand can aggravate a condition I have, pre glaucoma. So I'd caution people to do some research before they adopt any set of asanas that's not specifically designed for them. When I was 19 I broke my neck doing the TM asanas with that damn shoulder stand. Hurt like hell but didn't know I'd actually broken my neck until 20 years later! I tend to be stoic that way. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:25 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:39 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. Alex recently posted that he moved his stationary bicycle into his home office, so we can assume he's exercising on it. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard recently posted that it would be ideal to have a personal trainer for an exercise program. Anytime you do almost anything you are weight lifting and putting strain on the joints. I couldn't find any posts from Judy describing her own personal fitness program. I wonder if she is still doing the yoga asanas recommended by MMY? I find yoga poses very helpful in maintaining a good range of motion. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
On 3/4/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long wrote: After 7 weeks my knee is still wonky and I wouldn't dare do one squat on it! Wonky knees are a big problem for some people. However, most physical therapists will have you doing knee exercises before and after knee surgery that include flexing and lifting weights. If you weight over 100 pounds that's a lot of weight to lift on one joint and when you are walking, that requires a lot of flexing. Almost everything we do with the body is weight training. The trick is to add just a little more weight each day and don't give up. What you've got to do with the squats is use an assist frame in a gym so you can hang onto it with your hands and help yourself get back up again. Get a professional trainer if you can. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Well, Richard, I never had wonky knees before and the whole thing has been very mysterious. But my friend, the former RN tells me that the knee is a complex part of the body. It was a minor injury when it occurred but I'm pretty sure that walking in deep snow and slipping on ice has aggravated it. Also there's the Mars Saturn business to consider (-: On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:28 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/4/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long wrote: After 7 weeks my knee is still wonky and I wouldn't dare do one squat on it! Wonky knees are a big problem for some people. However, most physical therapists will have you doing knee exercises before and after knee surgery that include flexing and lifting weights. If you weight over 100 pounds that's a lot of weight to lift on one joint and when you are walking, that requires a lot of flexing. Almost everything we do with the body is weight training. The trick is to add just a little more weight each day and don't give up. What you've got to do with the squats is use an assist frame in a gym so you can hang onto it with your hands and help yourself get back up again. Get a professional trainer if you can. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Children Trying to Use a Rotary Dial Telephone
Totally cute, Xeno, thanks. The one that made me LOL was when he said, It's called a dial tone and the little girl replied, perfectly seriously: I think I've heard of that. Actually in that moment, I felt a little ancient! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:12 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: http://youtu.be/XkuirEweZvM
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Ann, I always thought of broken necks as a major injury. It flabbergasts me that one could have it for 20 years! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:23 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, thanks again and one point about the TM asanas: they're for the general public. I found out that doing the shoulder stand can aggravate a condition I have, pre glaucoma. So I'd caution people to do some research before they adopt any set of asanas that's not specifically designed for them. When I was 19 I broke my neck doing the TM asanas with that damn shoulder stand. Hurt like hell but didn't know I'd actually broken my neck until 20 years later! I tend to be stoic that way. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:25 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:39 AM, authfriend@... wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. Alex recently posted that he moved his stationary bicycle into his home office, so we can assume he's exercising on it. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard recently posted that it would be ideal to have a personal trainer for an exercise program. Anytime you do almost anything you are weight lifting and putting strain on the joints. I couldn't find any posts from Judy describing her own personal fitness program. I wonder if she is still doing the yoga asanas recommended by MMY? I find yoga poses very helpful in maintaining a good range of motion. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann, I always thought of broken necks as a major injury. It flabbergasts me that one could have it for 20 years! I know, right? But here is an illustration of what I did and although it hurt like hell and I have intermittent really severe neck pain until this day I only knew I had done this when I went to a chiropractor and he did a neck X ray about 20 years later. When it happened I was in a shoulder stand and felt and heard this excruciating crunch on the right side of my neck. Phew! Now I sleep with one of memory foam pillows with a neck roll in it, it works great. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:23 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, thanks again and one point about the TM asanas: they're for the general public. I found out that doing the shoulder stand can aggravate a condition I have, pre glaucoma. So I'd caution people to do some research before they adopt any set of asanas that's not specifically designed for them. When I was 19 I broke my neck doing the TM asanas with that damn shoulder stand. Hurt like hell but didn't know I'd actually broken my neck until 20 years later! I tend to be stoic that way. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:25 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:39 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. Alex recently posted that he moved his stationary bicycle into his home office, so we can assume he's exercising on it. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard recently posted that it would be ideal to have a personal trainer for an exercise program. Anytime you do almost anything you are weight lifting and putting strain on the joints. I couldn't find any posts from Judy describing her own personal fitness program. I wonder if she is still doing the yoga asanas recommended by MMY? I find yoga poses very helpful in maintaining a good range of motion. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Yes! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks - I was zooming in on the turboprop, the single engine plane had just flown over my yard, and the seagulls were sporadically flying towards the bay. click. timing is everything... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj Really interesting shot of these three different styles of airborne mobility. Thanks for sharing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
On 3/4/2014 9:34 AM, Share Long wrote: one point about the TM asanas: they're for the general public. I found out that doing the shoulder stand can aggravate a condition I have, pre glaucoma. So I'd caution people to do some research before they adopt any set of asanas that's not specifically designed for them. Always be careful with any kind of inverted positioning. The ideal situation would be to be able to practice with an expert in Hatha Yoga or a Licensed Physical Therapist. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks - I was zooming in on the turboprop, the single engine plane had just flown over my yard, and the seagulls were sporadically flying towards the bay. click. timing is everything... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj Really interesting shot of these three different styles of airborne mobility. Thanks for sharing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Well, Richard, I never had wonky knees before and the whole thing has been very mysterious. But my friend, the former RN tells me that the knee is a complex part of the body. It was a minor injury when it occurred but I'm pretty sure that walking in deep snow and slipping on ice has aggravated it. Also there's the Mars Saturn business to consider (-: Take Cetyl M. Best product out there. Check out this video of this dog who was given this supplement. Plus, great product for horses. Also, the topical cream is really good. http://www.responseproducts.com/ http://www.responseproducts.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8uw2d7DkWcamp;feature=youtu.be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8uw2d7DkWcamp;feature=youtu.be On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:28 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long wrote: After 7 weeks my knee is still wonky and I wouldn't dare do one squat on it! Wonky knees are a big problem for some people. However, most physical therapists will have you doing knee exercises before and after knee surgery that include flexing and lifting weights. If you weight over 100 pounds that's a lot of weight to lift on one joint and when you are walking, that requires a lot of flexing. Almost everything we do with the body is weight training. The trick is to add just a little more weight each day and don't give up. What you've got to do with the squats is use an assist frame in a gym so you can hang onto it with your hands and help yourself get back up again. Get a professional trainer if you can. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Every Adult
Thanks, Nablusoss, my partner in the online class I'm taking lives on Lake Geneva in Lusanne and I sent her this article knowing it will make her very happy. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:07 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/03/swiss-pay-basic-income-2500-francs-per-month-every-adult.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
What's up with your knee? A friend who hangs out at Starbucks downtown and my age is complaining about pains in his leg. He says he must be getting old enough to get these old people's diseases. :)) I suggested it might be a form of arthritis and his neighbor who is a nurse said the same thing. A couple week's ago he had purchased about 3 heads of lettuce at the farmer's market and said he eats a lot of salad. By ayurveda that would not be a good thing to do in a cold winter. On 03/04/2014 07:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, good point about having a trainer. After 7 weeks my knee is still wonky and I wouldn't dare do one squat on it! And I went and figured and you're right about Alex's contribution. It was on the topic of calories. Good catch! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard and Alex, thanks for the good info about the best exercise and noozguru, the bit about doshas is a great reminder for me being pure pitta. Not good to get overheated! On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:17 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: We don't eat any sugar anymore, or very many carbs except for some whole grains. We are not into packaged foods of any kind these days. We are eating mostly organic vegetables, chicken and organic beef from Whole Foods Market. Rita has tried to limit her caloric intake to 1200 calories per day and work outs at the gym every day for one hour. It helps if you have a personal trainer. You can turn fat into muscle using the body's basic patterns of movement: simply do squats, dead lifts and chin ups and you have the basics. Each day you just lift a little more weight each time - barbells or other weights. What you have to do is keep at it every day - don't stop. It's that simple. According to what I've read, the best exercises to use are the ones that involve the most muscle mass and the greatest number of joints, and exercises that require you to balance yourself while you’re doing them. I promise you this: If you do the squats and dead lifts at proper levels of weight, your body will build muscle and strength. You can do this with a barbell- just put a bar on your back and squat below parallel; or press a bar overhead; or pick a bar up from the ground and set it back down. These are normal human movement patterns that can be turned into progressively heavier exercises that make you strong the way your body moves naturally. Inline image 1 On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: Didn't read the article, did you? It's not even very long. On 03/03/2014 04:54 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014 3:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote: We've had some heated discussions here about weight loss because I claim the rather naive theory that you lose weight by burning more calories than you take in. Just do the math - but that's not the entire solution. Do you realize how long you'd have to stay on a treadmill to burn even a small part of 1800 calories, the average adult daily intake? It's good to burn calories but it's also important to build muscles to replace the fat. What you've got to do is carefully select what you eat and consume food in smaller proportions, and get some good exercise. The most important aspect of healthy living is life style - get the right mind set, cultivate beneficial habits and keep at it. It's not easy, but it's not complicated. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
So where is your Fitness Pundit handle? 8-| Go figure. On 03/03/2014 07:22 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014 8:39 PM, Bhairitu wrote: All depends on your dosha. It all depends on your strength - do you have enough strength to lead an active normal life? A simple barbell costs only a few dollars. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
On 3/4/2014 10:22 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks - I was zooming in on the turboprop, the single engine plane had just flown over my yard, and the seagulls were sporadically flying towards the bay. click. timing is everything... It's all a matter of placement and positioning. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] I saw a UFO recently
Looks like an Alaska Airlines turbo prop. Didn't know they had any left. I have friends with a vacation home in Cannon Beach, Oregon. I've been there several times but hate the drive but found out recently several airlines do fly to Astoria just up the road. Alaska is one of them. On 03/04/2014 05:36 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
noozguru, I thought you'd never ask (-: I admit I love talking about health related topics. Anyway, mid January I exercised and woke up the next day with a teeny, tiney pain above my left knee cap. It went away 3 days later. But then the real fun started with pain BEHIND the knee, first on the left side, then on the right, moving all around. Plus swelling and stiffness. Went to chiropractor who sent me to my regular doc and had sonogram and xray, both of which were clear. She said water had accumulated behind the original injury. I should have told her: go figure (-: Anyway, I may go back to the chiro now that we know there's no DVT or broken bits of cartilege floating around! All along I've been able to walk and stairs have gotten easier. Besides walking in deep snow, and keeping balance on ice, it's funny to me that walking on foam also aggravates it. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:01 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What's up with your knee? A friend who hangs out at Starbucks downtown and my age is complaining about pains in his leg. He says he must be getting old enough to get these old people's diseases. :)) I suggested it might be a form of arthritis and his neighbor who is a nurse said the same thing. A couple week's ago he had purchased about 3 heads of lettuce at the farmer's market and said he eats a lot of salad. By ayurveda that would not be a good thing to do in a cold winter. On 03/04/2014 07:29 AM, Share Long wrote: Judy, good point about having a trainer. After 7 weeks my knee is still wonky and I wouldn't dare do one squat on it! And I went and figured and you're right about Alex's contribution. It was on the topic of calories. Good catch! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:39 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard and Alex, thanks for the good info about the best exercise and noozguru, the bit about doshas is a great reminder for me being pure pitta. Not good to get overheated! On Monday, March 3, 2014 9:17 PM, Pundit Sir punditster@... wrote: We don't eat any sugar anymore, or very many carbs except for some whole grains. We are not into packaged foods of any kind these days. We are eating mostly organic vegetables, chicken and organic beef from Whole Foods Market. Rita has tried to limit her caloric intake to 1200 calories per day and work outs at the gym every day for one hour. It helps if you have a personal trainer. You can turn fat into muscle using the body's basic patterns of movement: simply do squats, dead lifts and chin ups and you have the basics. Each day you just lift a little more weight each time - barbells or other weights. What you have to do is keep at it every day - don't stop. It's that simple. According to what I've read, the best exercises to use are the ones that involve the most muscle mass and the greatest number of joints, and exercises that require you to balance yourself while you’re doing them. I promise you this: If you do the squats and dead lifts at proper levels of weight, your body will build muscle and strength. You can do this with a barbell- just put a bar on your back and squat below parallel; or press a bar overhead; or pick a bar up from the ground and set it back down. These are normal human movement patterns that can be turned into progressively heavier exercises that make you strong the way your body moves naturally. On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Didn't read the article, did you? It's not even very long. On 03/03/2014 04:54 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/3/2014 3:31 PM, Bhairitu wrote: We've had some heated discussions here about weight loss because I claim the rather naive theory that you lose weight by burning
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
You sound like one tough cookie, Ann. Damn, no wonder you tame and ride horses for a living. Perhaps a position as a Marine Drill Sergeant, once you retire? I am just kidding - I really enjoy actually doing stuff, very physically, too, and it sounds like you generally have a really good time, keeping all the plates spinning, on horseback, so to speak. I have been thinking about approaches to art, and would like to begin some metal cold forging, and definitely more wood work. I've sliced my hands up, occasionally, working with tools, but no broken neck.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, thanks again and one point about the TM asanas: they're for the general public. I found out that doing the shoulder stand can aggravate a condition I have, pre glaucoma. So I'd caution people to do some research before they adopt any set of asanas that's not specifically designed for them. When I was 19 I broke my neck doing the TM asanas with that damn shoulder stand. Hurt like hell but didn't know I'd actually broken my neck until 20 years later! I tend to be stoic that way. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:25 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:39 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. Alex recently posted that he moved his stationary bicycle into his home office, so we can assume he's exercising on it. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard recently posted that it would be ideal to have a personal trainer for an exercise program. Anytime you do almost anything you are weight lifting and putting strain on the joints. I couldn't find any posts from Judy describing her own personal fitness program. I wonder if she is still doing the yoga asanas recommended by MMY? I find yoga poses very helpful in maintaining a good range of motion. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Ann and Richard, how about: it's all a matter of placement and positioning...at the right time! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:05 AM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/4/2014 10:22 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks - I was zooming in on the turboprop, the single engine plane had just flown over my yard, and the seagulls were sporadically flying towards the bay. click. timing is everything... It's all a matter of placement and positioning. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] I saw a UFO recently
Yep, I was surprised by that, too. It looks like a fairly new model, and more economical from a maintenance and ops standpoint, vs. pure jet, or prop. I do remember the rocky beaches, and cold, violent surf, up around Astoria, but have not been there for 35 years, since I lived in the Willamette Valley. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Looks like an Alaska Airlines turbo prop. Didn't know they had any left. I have friends with a vacation home in Cannon Beach, Oregon. I've been there several times but hate the drive but found out recently several airlines do fly to Astoria just up the road. Alaska is one of them. On 03/04/2014 05:36 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote: No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
I am sure glad the full-lotus, or painful pretzel, as I call it, was never a requirement for meditation. No way...ever, for me. These days, a hot tub trumps asanas, every time.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Ann and Richard, how about: it's all a matter of placement and positioning...at the right time! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:05 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 10:22 AM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks - I was zooming in on the turboprop, the single engine plane had just flown over my yard, and the seagulls were sporadically flying towards the bay. click. timing is everything... It's all a matter of placement and positioning. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Thanks, Ann, these products look excellent. AND, I'm not sure it isn't a ligament problem rather than a bone problem. Maybe the topical would work on that too... On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Well, Richard, I never had wonky knees before and the whole thing has been very mysterious. But my friend, the former RN tells me that the knee is a complex part of the body. It was a minor injury when it occurred but I'm pretty sure that walking in deep snow and slipping on ice has aggravated it. Also there's the Mars Saturn business to consider (-: Take Cetyl M. Best product out there. Check out this video of this dog who was given this supplement. Plus, great product for horses. Also, the topical cream is really good. http://www.responseproducts.com/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8uw2d7DkWcamp;feature=youtu.be On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:28 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 9:29 AM, Share Long wrote: After 7 weeks my knee is still wonky and I wouldn't dare do one squat on it! Wonky knees are a big problem for some people. However, most physical therapists will have you doing knee exercises before and after knee surgery that include flexing and lifting weights. If you weight over 100 pounds that's a lot of weight to lift on one joint and when you are walking, that requires a lot of flexing. Almost everything we do with the body is weight training. The trick is to add just a little more weight each day and don't give up. What you've got to do with the squats is use an assist frame in a gym so you can hang onto it with your hands and help yourself get back up again. Get a professional trainer if you can. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Comedian rips whiny billionaires
About time! http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/03/comedian-greg-proops-rips-whiny-billionaires-time-to-sharpen-our-metaphorical-guillotines/ Ironically if you click on his podcast embedded at the bottom of the story you'll probably get a car or car related ad.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Swiss To Pay Basic Income 2,500 Francs Per Month To Every Adult
Oh but Nabby, that's taking other people's money. Mikey won't like that. :)) On 03/04/2014 08:06 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: http://www.naturalcuresnotmedicine.com/2014/03/swiss-pay-basic-income-2500-francs-per-month-every-adult.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
On 3/4/2014 11:01 AM, Bhairitu wrote: A couple week's ago he had purchased about 3 heads of lettuce at the farmer's market and said he eats a lot of salad. By ayurveda that would not be a good thing to do in a cold winter. Eat warm food. Warm food is much easier to digest than cold food. Ayurveda recommends we eat fresh warm food, freshly prepared. Avoid micro-waving, which has been shown to destroy over 90% of the protective antioxidants in the food. Also, avoid cold drinks, ice cream, frozen yogurt and other cold foods, especially in the winter months. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
On 3/4/2014 11:18 AM, Share Long wrote: Ann and Richard, how about: it's all a matter of placement and positioning...at the right time! Right - you just place yourself with your camera positioned at just the angle at the right time - and wait for flying objects to come into view. It's not complicated, just real time-consuming. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
When I get such pains I adjust my eating habits and supplements and it goes away. This will happen in winter and is the ol' rheumatiz people used to complain about. It seems to be related to eating an overly alkalizing diet. That's what my friend was doing. There's all this emphasis on eating more alkaline yet no recognition of problems of a too alkaline system. Cold weather is yin and is balanced by eating more yang. Now let's see how Neo's emoticons work. I put in the symbol for laugh with Thunderbird but it didn't work. These appear to be the same symbols that a lot of chat rooms use.
[FairfieldLife] RE: I saw a UFO recently
Oh! Thank goodness. I HAD tried it when I first read on another forum that you could no longer do private email, and it did NOT work. Apparently it took them more than one try to get it right when they redid the edit toolbar. Thank you for setting me straight! On the far left of the edit box toolbar (that has all the text/font/URL/etc. icons) there's an icon with two downward pointing chevrons that says Expand header. If you click that, it gives you a pull down menu on the To: header with options to mail privately. Have you tried that and found it doesn't work? Or, have you not found where that feature is buried? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : For inscrutable reasons, Yahoo has decreed that we can no longer send private email via Neo on the Web site. You can send posts/messages only to the group. They made this change about two weeks ago. Dr. D, Dang Yahoo neo again; can't find your address and send e-mail direct. But, Nice perspective photo of the birds and planes. I have an offspring that flies that kind of airliner, a, Q400 with humongous high-tech jet like turboprops. Started a career looking at birds and flying little planes like in the photo. -Buck No kidding. It was a couple of days ago, on a rare, clear, late afternoon, between rain storms. I looked up, and there it was. I have seen many planets in the sky, though this was larger, and it looked like a bright disc, vs. a sphere, with a shadow on its rim. No movement at all - staying quite still. Looked quite otherwordly. I know that the SF Bay Area, with all the tech around here, has led to some pretty strange sights, from time to time, so perhaps it was something man-made, but not yet known about. I did not have a tripod, so the circular object is not quite round, but I took some pictures, anyway. Here is the link to the clearest one: https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 https://app.box.com/s/ucnq7gzutwizrdtyvh63 Also took this one yesterday evening - not a UFO, just a cool picture: https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj https://app.box.com/s/f523rt095gbfct9p8cxj
[FairfieldLife] BLANKING
Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence temporary unconsciousness due to injury reversible coma irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
First of all I want to say that *they* would have to pay me big bucks to get me to eat a salad in winter! Just the thought of it makes me shiver. Though, now that I think of it, I have taken to eating sprouts for what the hobbits call second breakfast (-: I had an avocado and scrambled eggs with tumeric for lunch. I know avocado is alkalizing but I think the eggs are pretty acidifying. All very yummy. That must count for something! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:57 AM, noozg...@sbcglobal.net noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: When I get such pains I adjust my eating habits and supplements and it goes away. This will happen in winter and is the ol' rheumatiz people used to complain about. It seems to be related to eating an overly alkalizing diet. That's what my friend was doing. There's all this emphasis on eating more alkaline yet no recognition of problems of a too alkaline system. Cold weather is yin and is balanced by eating more yang. Now let's see how Neo's emoticons work. I put in the symbol for laugh with Thunderbird but it didn't work. These appear to be the same symbols that a lot of chat rooms use.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
Xeno, I still really like Maharishi's phrase restful alertness and would describe that as an inner state of suspension between two somethings. Also liminal, meaning on the edge of something. But suspension describes my experience better. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:23 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). 1. deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking 2. TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) 3. general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence 4. temporary unconsciousness due to injury 5. reversible coma 6. irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive 7. death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
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And rather boring :-)
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My another word would probably be no-thought. Unlike some here, I have never had any problem achieving this -- as a kid, before TM, while practicing TM, or afterwards, practicing other methods. You just stop your thoughts. Simple as that. As for why it's always been easy for me and seems not to be for other people, I have no idea, but I would suspect that many people identify their sense of self so much with the constant flow of thoughts that they're reluctant to let that flow settle down and go away, because they're afraid their self will go away, too. As you say, the word transcending is misleading, because one can stop one's thoughts and still have a sense of self. No-thought is more accurate, because it lacks connotations of specialness or having achieved something. It's just allowing your mind to become still, not enlightened. No one really needs a technique to do this, or a mantra; stillness is the mind's natural state. You just allow it to happen. IMO, of course. From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). 1. deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking 2. TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) 3. general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence 4. temporary unconsciousness due to injury 5. reversible coma 6. irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive 7. death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
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Oh, you meant the full-lotus position -- Yes, Very! though perhaps useful, as part of a visual CV, for the Cirque du Soleil... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : And rather boring :-)
[FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
Yes it was Ramana Maharshi (not MMY) who advocated catching yourself at the moment of waking There are too many great seers in Inda. I suspect Judy is right when she she suggests Ramana is taking an effect for a cause but maybe his technique has worked for some people. Ann's inability to grasp how you can be aware you've transcended without a helpful thought coming along to point it out is one shared by most everyone who comments on the issue. You can clearly only be self-aware that you *have* transcended in a past moment.
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On 3/4/2014 12:45 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Unlike some here, I have never had any problem achieving this -- as a kid, before TM, while practicing TM, or afterwards, practicing other methods. You just stop your thoughts. Simple as that. You spent what, thousands of dollars over a period of twenty years to learn how to meditate and go beyond thinking when all you had to do was just simply stop thinking? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] From Komsomolskaya Pravda ...
Right now, Putin stands only one step away from becoming the world leader, the key figure, the embodiment of liberty and independence from US hegemony. He is passing a historical test. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomolskaya_Pravda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomolskaya_Pravda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komsomol http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/01/russian-media-on-crimea-putin-will-become-the-first-person-of-world-politics/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You sound like one tough cookie, Ann. Damn, no wonder you tame and ride horses for a living. Perhaps a position as a Marine Drill Sergeant, once you retire? I am just kidding - I really enjoy actually doing stuff, very physically, too, and it sounds like you generally have a really good time, keeping all the plates spinning, on horseback, so to speak. I have been thinking about approaches to art, and would like to begin some metal cold forging, and definitely more wood work. I've sliced my hands up, occasionally, working with tools, but no broken neck.:-) I'm tough when it comes to physical injury and pain, don't take painkillers, even when I had my arm smashed to smithereens and my wrist dislocated and had been kicked in the back and languished for three days in the hospital waiting for surgery and plate installation. But when it comes to certain other things I'm a complete wuss. But I do love to use of my body, to feel like I'm moving and working and feeling stiff the next day is something I like because it makes me aware of my body and you get to feel the muscles and tendons crying just a little bit! I have some good friends that are farriers and they love the work and the ability to bend metal and make stuff, it's a real culture. But they hot forge. Tools are beautiful and while I admire looking at woodworking or sculpting tools I am not very good at using them. There is an aesthetic to an instrument that is designed for effectiveness and efficiency. I would love to see some of your pieces if you care to share them later. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, thanks again and one point about the TM asanas: they're for the general public. I found out that doing the shoulder stand can aggravate a condition I have, pre glaucoma. So I'd caution people to do some research before they adopt any set of asanas that's not specifically designed for them. When I was 19 I broke my neck doing the TM asanas with that damn shoulder stand. Hurt like hell but didn't know I'd actually broken my neck until 20 years later! I tend to be stoic that way. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:25 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... wrote: On 3/4/2014 7:39 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Hmmm, I couldn't find any recent posts from Alex about exercise. Go figure. Alex recently posted that he moved his stationary bicycle into his home office, so we can assume he's exercising on it. Go figure. If you're going to do anything strenuous by way of exercise, especially weight lifting or anything that puts strain on the joints, probably best to get advice from a trainer first, or you could injure yourself. Richard recently posted that it would be ideal to have a personal trainer for an exercise program. Anytime you do almost anything you are weight lifting and putting strain on the joints. I couldn't find any posts from Judy describing her own personal fitness program. I wonder if she is still doing the yoga asanas recommended by MMY? I find yoga poses very helpful in maintaining a good range of motion. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
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No-thought might work too. I have a relative who is a meditator, but prior to learning was rather terrified of the prospect of not having any thoughts because this person thought he/she would disappear if there were no thoughts. This person is suffering from a common mental disorder, and can only practice meditation for a short time, and is generally on some rather powerful medications. I never had the problem of thinking I would disappear if I had no thoughts. I was a somewhat silent kid long ago, and torrents of thoughts were only common in my life when there was a very stressful situation or some kind of release of repressed material, the latter which can happen when practising various kinds of meditation. There is the phrase in Zen 'not-doing', which does not mean trying to not do anything or being lazy, but implies experience that just flows without the grasping, anticipation, or shunning of what happens, and this can take place even if there are some thoughts, but this word is more appropriate to experience in activity, even thought not-doing would be appropriate for the blank of meditation. Since no-thought can occur in activity, it might not do for a replacement for the word transcending, just as not-doing does. Blanking seems to have an association in my mind with Wite Out, an opaque white paint used to blank out text on paper for corrections (nowadays of course we just fix the error on the computer and print a whole new sheet of paper. I think we must use more paper now that we have computers than previously. When I was a kid we had another way of blanking. We would hyperventilate, and then a friend would wrap their arms around the chest from behind while we held our breath. In very short order we would go unconscious and after a minute or two would wake up lying on the ground. Once, one of our neigbour's girls had this done, and the person applying the pressure let go, and she fell straight forward on her face because he let her go rather than leaning back and letting her slide to the ground gracefully. We were probably about 10 years old at the time. What about 'minimal-experience'? This might work for TC, but you could also be drunk. After all, if a complete blank occurs, it is just like deep sleep or anesthaesia, there is no sense of appreciation of it at the time. After all TC is defined as a hypometabolic wakeful state, so there has to be some sense of it being there, otherwise you can just have someone hit you on the head with a tyre iron. Hyphenated words always seem like two words rather than a multisyllabic single word. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My another word would probably be no-thought. Unlike some here, I have never had any problem achieving this -- as a kid, before TM, while practicing TM, or afterwards, practicing other methods. You just stop your thoughts. Simple as that. As for why it's always been easy for me and seems not to be for other people, I have no idea, but I would suspect that many people identify their sense of self so much with the constant flow of thoughts that they're reluctant to let that flow settle down and go away, because they're afraid their self will go away, too. As you say, the word transcending is misleading, because one can stop one's thoughts and still have a sense of self. No-thought is more accurate, because it lacks connotations of specialness or having achieved something. It's just allowing your mind to become still, not enlightened. No one really needs a technique to do this, or a mantra; stillness is the mind's natural state. You just allow it to happen. IMO, of course. From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence temporary unconsciousness due to injury reversible coma irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state
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And my suspicion is that many people who boast of being able to stop their thoughts at will are stopping them only on a superficial level; they simply don't notice that they also have much quieter, more subtle thoughts going on. (I know there are folks who believe all discursive thought involves mental verbalization. My thoughts are in words only when there is some prospect of communicating them to someone else.) If it were true that some people were reluctant to let thoughts settle because they were afraid their self would go away too, those people would likely have a problem transcending with TM. And of course, at least in the TM context, transcending during meditation doesn't imply enlightenment or specialness or having transcended the Self, any more than no-thought does. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My another word would probably be no-thought. Unlike some here, I have never had any problem achieving this -- as a kid, before TM, while practicing TM, or afterwards, practicing other methods. You just stop your thoughts. Simple as that. As for why it's always been easy for me and seems not to be for other people, I have no idea, but I would suspect that many people identify their sense of self so much with the constant flow of thoughts that they're reluctant to let that flow settle down and go away, because they're afraid their self will go away, too. As you say, the word transcending is misleading, because one can stop one's thoughts and still have a sense of self. No-thought is more accurate, because it lacks connotations of specialness or having achieved something. It's just allowing your mind to become still, not enlightened. No one really needs a technique to do this, or a mantra; stillness is the mind's natural state. You just allow it to happen. IMO, of course. From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 7:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence temporary unconsciousness due to injury reversible coma irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
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Correction? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : And of course, at least in the TM context, transcending during meditation doesn't imply enlightenment or specialness or having transcended the Self, any more than no-thought does. Are you sure you meant 'transcended the Self'? That would seem to be an oxymoron. Maybe you meant transcended the sense of individual self?
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Restful alertness is a fine term, but there's not a thing wrong with transcending. It's understood to mean transcending mental activity. Nobody uses it to mean transcending the Self. Xeno, I still really like Maharishi's phrase restful alertness and would describe that as an inner state of suspension between two somethings. Also liminal, meaning on the edge of something. But suspension describes my experience better. Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence temporary unconsciousness due to injury reversible coma irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Restful alertness is a fine term, but there's not a thing wrong with transcending. It's understood to mean transcending mental activity. Nobody uses it to mean transcending the Self. It does seem to be used with the meaning transcending to the Self.
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Xeno is having reading comprehension problems again. If anyone else is confused, let me know. Correction? And of course, at least in the TM context, transcending during meditation doesn't imply enlightenment or specialness or having transcended the Self, any more than no-thought does. Are you sure you meant 'transcended the Self'? That would seem to be an oxymoron. Maybe you meant transcended the sense of individual self?
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I haven't thought about all this in a long time. But now when I think about my experience, restful alertness or suspension are the best terms because transcending implies activity. And there is no activity. Just pure potentiality of all kinds of activity: thinking, feeling, sensing. Definitely an emptiness full of pure potentiality. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 1:47 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: Restful alertness is a fine term, but there's not a thing wrong with transcending. It's understood to mean transcending mental activity. Nobody uses it to mean transcending the Self. Xeno, I still really like Maharishi's phrase restful alertness and would describe that as an inner state of suspension between two somethings. Also liminal, meaning on the edge of something. But suspension describes my experience better. Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). 1. deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking 2. TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) 3. general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence 4. temporary unconsciousness due to injury 5. reversible coma 6. irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive 7. death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
On 03/04/2014 09:44 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 3/4/2014 11:01 AM, Bhairitu wrote: A couple week's ago he had purchased about 3 heads of lettuce at the farmer's market and said he eats a lot of salad. By ayurveda that would not be a good thing to do in a cold winter. Eat warm food. Warm food is much easier to digest than cold food. Ayurveda recommends we eat fresh warm food, freshly prepared. Avoid micro-waving, which has been shown to destroy over 90% of the protective antioxidants in the food. Also, avoid cold drinks, ice cream, frozen yogurt and other cold foods, especially in the winter months. What kind of warm food? Warm spinach, warm potatoes, warm beets, warm hot dogs, warm spaghetti?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wanna feel better? Stop eating sugar!
Some folks are born meat and potatoes people and will do well on that all their lives and horribly on salads. Some folks are born salad people and will do well on grains, veggies and light animal protein and not so well on meat and potatoes. Some folks are a mix of both but should not particularly eat one way or the other unless they need to balance. Our medical establishment acts like everyone has metabolic syndrome but that's probably not true of health conscious people. In general people with metabolic syndrome are sympathetic dominant in that the sympathetic system seems to run even when it's not appropriate. Keep in mind the earliest stuff on TM was about Selye's work and calming the sympathetic system. But some folks are parasympathetic dominant and need stimulating activity and a diet to rebuild the sympathetic system (since this dominance can occur if the organs of the sympathetic system have been blown out). Technically our medical establishment is dumber than donuts and doesn't pay much attention even to the above research done at universities over 50 years ago. On 03/04/2014 10:25 AM, Share Long wrote: First of all I want to say that *they* would have to pay me big bucks to get me to eat a salad in winter! Just the thought of it makes me shiver. Though, now that I think of it, I have taken to eating sprouts for what the hobbits call second breakfast (-: I had an avocado and scrambled eggs with tumeric for lunch. I know avocado is alkalizing but I think the eggs are pretty acidifying. All very yummy. That must count for something! On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:57 AM, noozg...@sbcglobal.net noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: When I get such pains I adjust my eating habits and supplements and it goes away. This will happen in winter and is the ol' rheumatiz people used to complain about. It seems to be related to eating an overly alkalizing diet. That's what my friend was doing. There's all this emphasis on eating more alkaline yet no recognition of problems of a too alkaline system. Cold weather is yin and is balanced by eating more yang. Now let's see how Neo's emoticons work. I put in the symbol for laugh with Thunderbird but it didn't work. These appear to be the same symbols that a lot of chat rooms use.
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I like the word suspension. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I haven't thought about all this in a long time. But now when I think about my experience, restful alertness or suspension are the best terms because transcending implies activity. And there is no activity. Just pure potentiality of all kinds of activity: thinking, feeling, sensing. Definitely an emptiness full of pure potentiality.
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Transcending doesn't imply activity any more than sitting does. And of course transcending implies absence of mental activity. I haven't thought about all this in a long time. But now when I think about my experience, restful alertness or suspension are the best terms because transcending implies activity. And there is no activity. Just pure potentiality of all kinds of activity: thinking, feeling, sensing. Definitely an emptiness full of pure potentiality. Restful alertness is a fine term, but there's not a thing wrong with transcending. It's understood to mean transcending mental activity. Nobody uses it to mean transcending the Self. Xeno, I still really like Maharishi's phrase restful alertness and would describe that as an inner state of suspension between two somethings. Also liminal, meaning on the edge of something. But suspension describes my experience better. Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence temporary unconsciousness due to injury reversible coma irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Funny article from the Guardian Newspaper about TM
Ann, My comment is in red: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: Maharishi said that everyone passes through transcendence as they go from one state of consciousness to another (waking to dreaming to sleeping and back again). He probably would not have recommended trying to hold one's awareness in that in-between stage, at least not for ordinary meditators. Sounds to me as though Ramana Maharshi was turning a description of his spontaneous experience into a prescription for practice instead of just letting it develop naturally in his students. Ann, one might well not notice an instant of transcendence between waking and sleeping--it's easy enough to miss when one is meditating (since there's quite literally nothing to it, nothing to be aware of). Yes, and I make this point in a recent post to Seraphita. You know, this transcendence business is a funny one because it seems like you only realize you were transcending after the fact and that is kind of like having had amnesia and someone tells you that for the last five minutes you were bellydancing except you don't remember a thing. You have to also keep in mind that the transcendence can also be experienced in the gaps of the syllables in the mantra being used for meditation. With this idea in mind, the transcendence can be experienced in between the various taste, color and tactile differences. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote: Re Ann's The transition between waking and sleeping is not transcendence in my book. It is full of thoughts and awareness that do not feel transcendental at all.: So you are *not* doing what Maharshi says. You have to hold your awareness at the point you wake up *before* thoughts arise. Presumably it worked for Ramana because he was in a state of Unity already; his suggestion is that it could work for others also. I mention him as his ideas rather nicely dovetail with Lynch's description of transcending during meditation. And I mention Lynch and the commentator on the article as their take on TM as an intermediate state between sleep and waking is more helpful than the Official TM approach using bubble diagrams. Re Richard's Meditation means to think things over. So, TM meditation is based on thinking. Anyone who can think is probably already practising a basic meditation.: If meditation means thinking then Transcendental Meditation suggests going beyond thinking. But meditation only means thinking in western contexts. Easterners use whatever word they use in their language for meditation in a sense closer to western ideas of contemplation.
[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Call to Action
Forwarded from: Dr. John Hagelin developm...@mum.edu Subject: Call to Action Urgent Response to Ukraine Crisis “The self-referral level of Transcendental Consciousness is being enlivened by groups practicing the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi® Program. The effect of these groups is going to be coherence, positivity—a lack of negativity in every phase of life on earth.” — Maharishi March 4, 2014 Dear Sidhas and Meditators of Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City, I am writing to you on a matter of great seriousness. If you have been watching the news, you will know that the situation in Ukraine has gotten perilously out of hand. Passions are inflamed, and powerful nations have taken menacing and provocative actions. Both NATO and the UN Security Council are in emergency sessions regarding what is being called “the gravest crisis of the 21st century.” In the past, whenever a threat would arise, Maharishi would quickly and forcefully rally us to exert a contravening influence of extreme positivity. Indeed, Maharishi started our Invincible America Assembly in response to a similar, serious threat that was spiraling out of control in Lebanon. The danger quickly dissipated. I am making an urgent call for all of us to come together for group program—immediately and for as long as it takes. We know we have a proven technology to dispel incoherence, aggression, and confusion. Fifty-two scientific studies—many published in leading, peer-reviewed journals—have made the Maharishi Effect one of the best-demonstrated phenomena in the history of the social sciences. If ever there was a time... now is the time for us to leverage our community’s special power. Here’s what we can all do now: Governors and Sidhas: Come to group program in our domes and flying halls. (Please bring your dome badge, as always.) Meditators: Come to group meditation. I’m very pleased to tell you that we have a new room for group meditation upstairs in the movie theater (Orpheum) building. You can enter via the north (rear) door. Our on-campus Peace Palace group meditation room will also be open, morning and evening. It will be ideal to coordinate your meditation time with group Yogic Flying®, which starts at 8:15 am and 5:45 pm daily. Here’s what we are doing nationwide: Thanks to the generosity of American and European donors, we have organized a major $100,000 Maharishi Yagya® for peace in Ukraine. (These funds and sankalpa were submitted yesterday, and already this morning we are seeing some signs of de-escalation.) We are putting out a call to Sidhas all over the U.S. to come and join the Invincible America Assembly in Fairfield. We are urging those who cannot come to participate in group program in their cities—even in small groups of 2-3 or more, as Maharishi recommended. We are urging those who cannot attend a group program to coordinate their individual programs with our Fairfield Yogic Flying times—and to do a good, long program. Please, for your own maximum happiness and as a matter of national and global urgency, enjoy some wonderful group programs in our domes and Yogic Flying halls, or in our group meditation rooms. Warmest wishes, Jai Guru Dev Dr. John Hagelin © 2014 Maharishi Foundation USA, a non-profit educational organization. All rights reserved. Transcendental Meditation®, TM®, TM-Sidhi®, Yogic Flying®, and Maharishi Yagya® are protected trademarks and are used in the U.S. under license or with permission.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Xeno is having reading comprehension problems again. If anyone else is confused, let me know. Correction? And of course, at least in the TM context, transcending during meditation doesn't imply enlightenment or specialness or having transcended the Self, any more than no-thought does. Are you sure you meant 'transcended the Self'? That would seem to be an oxymoron. Maybe you meant transcended the sense of individual self? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My another word would probably be no-thought. Unlike some here, I have never had any problem achieving this -- as a kid, before TM, while practicing TM, or afterwards, practicing other methods. You just stop your thoughts. Simple as that. As for why it's always been easy for me and seems not to be for other people, I have no idea, but I would suspect that many people identify their sense of self so much with the constant flow of thoughts that they're reluctant to let that flow settle down and go away, because they're afraid their self will go away, too. As you say, the word transcending is misleading, because one can stop one's thoughts and still have a sense of self. No-thought is more accurate, because it lacks connotations of specialness or having achieved something. It's just allowing your mind to become still, not enlightened. No one really needs a technique to do this, or a mantra; stillness is the mind's natural state. You just allow it to happen. IMO, of course.
[FairfieldLife] Drums of Economic War Beating
A Russian economic to Putin is saying that the Russian government will retaliate if the Western countries led by the US will impose any trade sanctions against it. In the meantime, the Dow Jones Industrial index reacted in a seemingly bipolar way by going up by over 1 percent as of noontime PST. Most economic pundits were saying that investors will be looking for safety by investing in gold and treasury bonds. But we'll see how the current world events will play out in the next few weeks. http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1 http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drums of Economic War Beating
John, a financial newsletter I receive says that silver is going through the roof. I guess it's all connected. One big fat spider web of a world (-: On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:25 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: A Russian economic to Putin is saying that the Russian government will retaliate if the Western countries led by the US will impose any trade sanctions against it. In the meantime, the Dow Jones Industrial index reacted in a seemingly bipolar way by going up by over 1 percent as of noontime PST. Most economic pundits were saying that investors will be looking for safety by investing in gold and treasury bonds. But we'll see how the current world events will play out in the next few weeks. http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
From: anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. Some editor. :-) You should know by now that she views anything said by anyone she doesn't like and holds a grudge against as an opportunity to try to start an argument and act superior to them. Why waste your time with her? As for the issue of no-thought, it IS worth remembering that many forms of meditation practice believe that deep meditation only *starts* at the point where you can stop your thoughts for 10-20 minutes continuously. Anything less is considered what beginners do. I've always assumed that Maharishi made up that stuff about thoughts being stress release because he never learned to meditate very well, and thus made up excuses for having a mind constantly full of thoughts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
As I said, if anyone else is confused, let me know; I'll be happy to explain. Xeno can deal with his own confusion. Or not, as he chooses. Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. Xeno is having reading comprehension problems again. If anyone else is confused, let me know. Correction? And of course, at least in the TM context, transcending during meditation doesn't imply enlightenment or specialness or having transcended the Self, any more than no-thought does. Are you sure you meant 'transcended the Self'? That would seem to be an oxymoron. Maybe you meant transcended the sense of individual self? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : My another word would probably be no-thought. Unlike some here, I have never had any problem achieving this -- as a kid, before TM, while practicing TM, or afterwards, practicing other methods. You just stop your thoughts. Simple as that. As for why it's always been easy for me and seems not to be for other people, I have no idea, but I would suspect that many people identify their sense of self so much with the constant flow of thoughts that they're reluctant to let that flow settle down and go away, because they're afraid their self will go away, too. As you say, the word transcending is misleading, because one can stop one's thoughts and still have a sense of self. No-thought is more accurate, because it lacks connotations of specialness or having achieved something. It's just allowing your mind to become still, not enlightened. No one really needs a technique to do this, or a mantra; stillness is the mind's natural state. You just allow it to happen. IMO, of course.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drums of Economic War Beating
Share, Yes, silver goes up too when gold goes up. In the end, someone is going to lose money. For now, it's obviously the Ukrainian people who have lost the Crimean Peninsula and the its economic value to their economy. Let's hope this scenario doesn't lead to war in the Ukraine. Stay tuned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: John, a financial newsletter I receive says that silver is going through the roof. I guess it's all connected. One big fat spider web of a world (-: On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 2:25 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: A Russian economic to Putin is saying that the Russian government will retaliate if the Western countries led by the US will impose any trade sanctions against it. In the meantime, the Dow Jones Industrial index reacted in a seemingly bipolar way by going up by over 1 percent as of noontime PST. Most economic pundits were saying that investors will be looking for safety by investing in gold and treasury bonds. But we'll see how the current world events will play out in the next few weeks. http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1 http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1
[FairfieldLife] Even The Scorpion Country has been visited by our SpaceBrothers in UFO's
I've gone on record saying Rendlesham might be the turning point in history that leads to the explanation of the UFO phenomenon -Nick Pope, Directorate of Defence Security, Ministry of Defence http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/ http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
I'll even explain to Barry if he can get over his pressed buttons and ask nicely. ;-) Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. Some editor. :-) You should know by now that she views anything said by anyone she doesn't like and holds a grudge against as an opportunity to try to start an argument and act superior to them. Why waste your time with her? As for the issue of no-thought, it IS worth remembering that many forms of meditation practice believe that deep meditation only *starts* at the point where you can stop your thoughts for 10-20 minutes continuously. Anything less is considered what beginners do. I've always assumed that Maharishi made up that stuff about thoughts being stress release because he never learned to meditate very well, and thus made up excuses for having a mind constantly full of thoughts.
[FairfieldLife] What languages sound like...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcvlxivscw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcvlxivscw
[FairfieldLife] RE: BLANKING
Xeno, Transcending can refer to the Self or any object or idea of reverence depending on one's intention. For example, the sadhus use bhong and hard liquor as the means to transcend the waking consciousness to be one with Shiva. Similarly, one could argue that LSD, peyote, ayuhuasca, and other hallucinogens could be used for transcending the waking consciousness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Ann used a great word to describe one result of meditation: BLANKING. This word does not have all the metaphysical implications that the word transcending does and might be more useful in a scientific context. The sense of self is always where 'you' are, regardless of 'state of consciousness', or what your mind appreciates as self, so transcending is a kind of misleading word. In other words, thought is 'transcended', but you do not, so saying you can transcend is ridiculous. I have experienced the first three of the states below (though not the drunkenness portion of anesthaesia). deep sleep, a very dull sort of blanking TC, during meditation, a more wakeful form of blanking (a small self-referral loop) general anesthaesia (severe drunkenness might be considered a form of anesthaesia as well). This is the most blank one can get short of real death, with higher brain function neural networks pretty much in decoherence temporary unconsciousness due to injury reversible coma irreversible coma - brain death while body is alive death (though it has been shown mammalian brains goes into a hyper active state shortly before death if they are awake immediately before rather than in a coma etc.) I was wondering if anyone else had a word (or words) besides 'blanking' that might fill the bill for a replacement for 'transcending'? This might also be more applicable to other kinds of meditation such as mindfulness, where no effort is used, but the goal is not to become completely silent, that may or may not happen. The main point is to just be still, and experience what happens.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drums of Economic War Beating
This is capitalism running rampant. Russian is run by oligarchs, China is run by oligarchs, the US is run by oligarchs. Too hell with 'em all! These selfish beasts will ruin the world thinking they are running it. The solution is to take away their wealth. They can keep a few million dollars that they've truly earned. Everything over that is a fluke. On 03/04/2014 12:25 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: A Russian economic to Putin is saying that the Russian government will retaliate if the Western countries led by the US will impose any trade sanctions against it. In the meantime, the Dow Jones Industrial index reacted in a seemingly bipolar way by going up by over 1 percent as of noontime PST. Most economic pundits were saying that investors will be looking for safety by investing in gold and treasury bonds. But we'll see how the current world events will play out in the next few weeks. http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Call to Action
Given the fact that these yagyas are performed by pundits who are in the employ of the Movement, how the fuck can it cost $100,000.00 to perform one for peace? Hagelin, if this technology were proven, this situation would not have arisen at all. On Tue, 3/4/14, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Call to Action To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 4, 2014, 8:19 PM Forwarded from: Dr. John Hagelin developm...@mum.edu Subject: Call to Action Urgent Response to Ukraine Crisis Urgent Response to Ukraine Crisis“The self-referral level of Transcendental Consciousness is being enlivened by groups practicing the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi® Program. The effect of these groups is going to be coherence, positivity—a lack of negativity in every phase of life on earth.” — MaharishiMarch 4, 2014Dear Sidhas and Meditators of Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City, I am writing to you on a matter of great seriousness. If you have been watching the news, you will know that the situation in Ukraine has gotten perilously out of hand. Passions are inflamed, and powerful nations have taken menacing and provocative actions. Both NATO and the UN Security Council are in emergency sessions regarding what is being called “the gravest crisis of the 21st century.”In the past, whenever a threat would arise, Maharishi would quickly and forcefully rally us to exert a contravening influence of extreme positivity. Indeed, Maharishi started our Invincible America Assembly in response to a similar, serious threat that was spiraling out of control in Lebanon. The danger quickly dissipated.I am making an urgent call for all of us to come together for group program—immediately and for as long as it takes. We know we have a proven technology to dispel incoherence, aggression, and confusion. Fifty-two scientific studies—many published in leading, peer-reviewed journals—have made the Maharishi Effect one of the best-demonstrated phenomena in the history of the social sciences.If ever there was a time... now is the time for us to leverage our community’s special power.Here’s what we can all do now: Governors and Sidhas: Come to group program in our domes and flying halls. (Please bring your dome badge, as always.) Meditators: Come to group meditation. I’m very pleased to tell you that we have a new room for group meditation upstairs in the movie theater (Orpheum) building. You can enter via the north (rear) door. Our on-campus Peace Palace group meditation room will also be open, morning and evening. It will be ideal to coordinate your meditation time with group Yogic Flying®, which starts at 8:15 am and 5:45 pm daily. Here’s what we are doing nationwide: Thanks to the generosity of American and European donors, we have organized a major $100,000 Maharishi Yagya® for peace in Ukraine. (These funds and sankalpa were submitted yesterday, and already this morning we are seeing some signs of de-escalation.) We are putting out a call to Sidhas all over the U.S. to come and join the Invincible America Assembly in Fairfield. We are urging those who cannot come to participate in group program in their cities—even in small groups of 2-3 or more, as Maharishi recommended. We are urging those who cannot attend a group program to coordinate their individual programs with our Fairfield Yogic Flying times—and to do a good, long program. Please, for your own maximum happiness and as a matter of national and global urgency, enjoy some wonderful group programs in our domes and Yogic Flying halls, or in our group meditation rooms.Warmest wishes,Jai Guru DevDr. John Hagelin © 2014 Maharishi Foundation USA, a non-profit educational organization. All rights reserved. Transcendental Meditation®, TM®, TM-Sidhi®, Yogic Flying®, and Maharishi Yagya® are protected trademarks and are used in the U.S. under license or with permission.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
Thanks for starting the discussion, at stopping thought - an instant context. Rather than stopping thought (which does reflect a more malleable sense of self; enough, as you say, to see past the addiction, of the thought-stream), once the experience progresses a little further, there is silence along with *the thoughts*. This silence has the effect of loosening, over time, both the stickiness, or overwhelming nature, of thoughts, and also, the sense of ownership, that thoughts are mine (though I DO continue, to remain responsible, for any that I entertain). In other words, even the silence, without thoughts, pales in comparison to the silence which continues to grow, regardless of thoughts, or no thoughts. Maharishi was not concerned about thoughts, or no thoughts, but, simply, that, regardless of the status of the mind, it was something to be understood, in a practical way, and as a normal expression of life, vs. being engaged in the conscious starting, and stopping, of thoughts. Capture the fort, and all that. Thanks, again, for getting this topic off the ground. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. Some editor. :-) You should know by now that she views anything said by anyone she doesn't like and holds a grudge against as an opportunity to try to start an argument and act superior to them. Why waste your time with her? As for the issue of no-thought, it IS worth remembering that many forms of meditation practice believe that deep meditation only *starts* at the point where you can stop your thoughts for 10-20 minutes continuously. Anything less is considered what beginners do. I've always assumed that Maharishi made up that stuff about thoughts being stress release because he never learned to meditate very well, and thus made up excuses for having a mind constantly full of thoughts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
Actually it was Seraphita who started this discussion quite a few posts back. Thanks for starting the discussion, at stopping thought - an instant context. Rather than stopping thought (which does reflect a more malleable sense of self; enough, as you say, to see past the addiction, of the thought-stream), once the experience progresses a little further, there is silence along with *the thoughts*. This silence has the effect of loosening, over time, both the stickiness, or overwhelming nature, of thoughts, and also, the sense of ownership, that thoughts are mine (though I DO continue, to remain responsible, for any that I entertain). In other words, even the silence, without thoughts, pales in comparison to the silence which continues to grow, regardless of thoughts, or no thoughts. Maharishi was not concerned about thoughts, or no thoughts, but, simply, that, regardless of the status of the mind, it was something to be understood, in a practical way, and as a normal expression of life, vs. being engaged in the conscious starting, and stopping, of thoughts. Capture the fort, and all that. Thanks, again, for getting this topic off the ground. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. Some editor. :-) You should know by now that she views anything said by anyone she doesn't like and holds a grudge against as an opportunity to try to start an argument and act superior to them. Why waste your time with her? As for the issue of no-thought, it IS worth remembering that many forms of meditation practice believe that deep meditation only *starts* at the point where you can stop your thoughts for 10-20 minutes continuously. Anything less is considered what beginners do. I've always assumed that Maharishi made up that stuff about thoughts being stress release because he never learned to meditate very well, and thus made up excuses for having a mind constantly full of thoughts.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Even The Scorpion Country has been visited by our SpaceBrothers in UFO's
The E.T.'s I saw, weren't here to fuck us up - just very curious. Have Nick call me with any questions. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I've gone on record saying Rendlesham might be the turning point in history that leads to the explanation of the UFO phenomenon -Nick Pope, Directorate of Defence Security, Ministry of Defence http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/ http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING
Doc, I think Maharishi agrees with you. From SBAL, p 238 ...identification is not bondage. What is bondage is inability to main Being together with identification while indulging in experience and activity. On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:19 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: Thanks for starting the discussion, at stopping thought - an instant context. Rather than stopping thought (which does reflect a more malleable sense of self; enough, as you say, to see past the addiction, of the thought-stream), once the experience progresses a little further, there is silence along with *the thoughts*. This silence has the effect of loosening, over time, both the stickiness, or overwhelming nature, of thoughts, and also, the sense of ownership, that thoughts are mine (though I DO continue, to remain responsible, for any that I entertain). In other words, even the silence, without thoughts, pales in comparison to the silence which continues to grow, regardless of thoughts, or no thoughts. Maharishi was not concerned about thoughts, or no thoughts, but, simply, that, regardless of the status of the mind, it was something to be understood, in a practical way, and as a normal expression of life, vs. being engaged in the conscious starting, and stopping, of thoughts. Capture the fort, and all that. Thanks, again, for getting this topic off the ground. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... anartaxius@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] BLANKING Barry did not use the word 'Self', he used the word 'self' uncapitalised, and the phrase 'sense of self'. In no way did he imply 'transcended the Self'. (See below) Talk about reading comprehension. Some editor. :-) You should know by now that she views anything said by anyone she doesn't like and holds a grudge against as an opportunity to try to start an argument and act superior to them. Why waste your time with her? As for the issue of no-thought, it IS worth remembering that many forms of meditation practice believe that deep meditation only *starts* at the point where you can stop your thoughts for 10-20 minutes continuously. Anything less is considered what beginners do. I've always assumed that Maharishi made up that stuff about thoughts being stress release because he never learned to meditate very well, and thus made up excuses for having a mind constantly full of thoughts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drums of Economic War Beating
Bhairitu, One can also say that these countries are run by the secret members of the Illuminati. And these secret members can determine if war should be waged against another member for reneging on financial promises or deals. As such, the people of these countries become the puppets of these secret administrators. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: This is capitalism running rampant. Russian is run by oligarchs, China is run by oligarchs, the US is run by oligarchs. Too hell with 'em all! These selfish beasts will ruin the world thinking they are running it. The solution is to take away their wealth. They can keep a few million dollars that they've truly earned. Everything over that is a fluke. On 03/04/2014 12:25 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: A Russian economic to Putin is saying that the Russian government will retaliate if the Western countries led by the US will impose any trade sanctions against it. In the meantime, the Dow Jones Industrial index reacted in a seemingly bipolar way by going up by over 1 percent as of noontime PST. Most economic pundits were saying that investors will be looking for safety by investing in gold and treasury bonds. But we'll see how the current world events will play out in the next few weeks. http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1 http://news.yahoo.com/russia-warns-could-reduce-zero-economic-dependency-us-083926261.html?vp=1
[FairfieldLife] War reigns happily!
Michel de Nostredame: Century 10, Q 72 L'an mil neuf cens nonante neuf sept mois, Du ciel viendra vn grand Roy d'effrayeur: le grand Roy d'Angolmois, Auant apres Mars regner par bon-heur. In the year 1999 and seven months The Great King of Terror will come from the sky, He will bring back to life the great king of the Mongols (Ghengis Khan?) Before and after the God of war reigns happily.
