Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for those few who can admit to having been Deadheads...
From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 5, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: One for those few who can admit to having been Deadheads... I was a Deadhead back in the 1980s, and the only thing I come away with from that video is an understanding of why Robert Hunter was not one of the musicians on stage. Ripple's a great song, and that performance had none of the magic that the Dead put into it. No problemo. For me, it was just a blast of nostalgia, and getting to see the guy who had actually *written* some of the more gorgeous songs ever written perform one of them. Hunter was always the guy behind the scenes, penning the words I loved so much. I can understand that many people never liked the Dead's sound, but it's sad in a way that by feeling that way they missed the songwriting, which was occasionally top-flight. Thus Hunter getting recognized by an organization devoted to Songwriting was thus a touching and apt moment for me to appreciate. In terms of songwriting bursts of creativity, that day in the Chelsea Hotel when he managed to write not only Ripple but Brokedown Palace and To Lay Me Down is the stuff of legend. Some folks would be content to have written just one of those songs in a lifetime -- but to have written all three, and on the same day...
[FairfieldLife] Downright humility-inspiring
For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? How Many Things Are There? View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Beyond True and False
Here's a good article from Aeon that explains the antipathy that some on this forum display towards Buddhist thought. It's comfortable with contradictions, and they aren't. Besides, this author gets database theory, and why I don't believe in a hierarchical universe. That would imply that most things in it are functions, rather than relations, and I don't see that as being true. Read the article...it's a mind-expander if one drops the comforting security provided by easy answers and opens oneself up to the notion that there probably aren't any. The logic of Buddhist philosophy – Graham Priest – Aeon The logic of Buddhist philosophy – Graham Priest... Buddhist philosophy is full of contradictions. Now modern logic is learning why that might be a good thing View on aeon.co Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking TM
The TM pundits? Re-boot? This sounds like re-education boot-camp. How about enrolling them as regular MSAE/MUM students and giving them an education too? They could come out chanting Sanskrit and also educated pundits too. That would take the responsibility for their welfare out of the hands of the current over-seers who evidently are on over-whelm, and it might be more humane and transparent as to what is going on inside there. -Buck - sri...@ymail.com writes: to be more accurate, it is only the Brahmin pundits outside of India whose program is changing, they are going to get more knowledge of Maharishi's connections between modern science and Vedic science rather (than) just a traditional Hindu perspective. I have no influence to change any policy myself I'm giving an opinion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
hey Steve and turq, this just came to me: we can think that we're not a big influence in the universe. But act as if we are a beneficial influence (-: On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:25 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? How Many Things Are There? View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
Weird, I was just having the same kinds of thoughts a few minutes ago while reading a piece in the NYTimes titled Cosmic Connections in the Deep Sea about the author's experience diving. It mentions the issue only in passing, but it triggered a Wait a minnit sort of response. It occurred to me that it seems equally unlikely that we are an utterly insignificant accident in a tiny corner of the unimaginably vast universe, or that we are, in fact, the reason the universe was created in the first place. I've always accepted that the former is the case, so finding myself entertaining the latter for even just a few seconds--on that equally unlikely basis--was disorienting. I certainly didn't change my mind. But I have no idea what to make of that momentary flash. The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring hey Steve and turq, this just came to me: we can think that we're not a big influence in the universe. But act as if we are a beneficial influence (-: You can act as if you are a banana for all I care. But that doesn't make you one. :-) Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide -- from the Crusades to the Inquisition to modern Jihads. It seems to me that it Really Doesn't Matter how they thought of themselves and the influence they believed they had on the world was -- the only thing that matters is what actually happened. I somehow don't think that the heretic being burned at the stake by someone whose face is the very picture of blissful religious fervor is gonna feel quite the same way that the fanatic does. But in the end it all comes down to preference, as far as I can tell. There are humans who seem to feel better about themselves based on feelings they have about their supposed importance, and there are those who feel better about themselves when keeping in mind their essential unimportance. I prefer not to hang with the former. History has a tendency to remember them as tyrants and killers, not as beneficial. List of major religious wars Lowest estimate Highest estimate Event Location Religions involved 3,000,000 11,500,000 Thirty Years' War Holy Roman Empire Protestants and Catholics 2,000,000 4,000,000 French Wars of Religion France Protestants and Catholics 1,000,000 3,000,000 Nigerian Civil War Nigeria Islam and Christian 1,000,000 2,000,000 Second Sudanese Civil War Sudan Islam and Christian 1,000,000 3,000,000 Crusades Holy Land, Europe Islam and Christian 130,000 250,000 Lebanese Civil War Lebanon Sunni, Shiite and Christian On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:25 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? How Many Things Are There? View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
On 5/5/2014 10:54 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: On 5/5/2014 11:48 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Perhaps you ought to read up of glyphosates. It's just that most folks around here don't think it's important to take up arms to oppose the use of Roundup in gardens. Go figure. We can hardly find Roundup any more in Victoria. It has been pretty much banned at the strength you used to be able to buy it. My husband, because he is a lawn fanatic, loves the stuff. I forbid him to use it and luckily he has a hard time getting his hands on it. But like any addict, he usually finds some source - in this case another woman who owns a sheep farm and can get the industrial strength stuff. It's probably not going to kill you, Ann, unless you eat the grass or use your lawn as a table. Roundup works pretty good on sidewalks and driveways to kill unsightly weeds, but I wouldn't drink the stuff. The exhaust fumes from your car on the way to the feed store might be a greater hazard to your health. Some people around here have cesspools in the ground because they don't have access to city waste facilities and they have wells to get drinking water. You put the cesspools and the water wells too close together and then spray Roundup all over, you're bound to get some bad effects! Some city people have to drink tap water from a recycling plant. Or, they buy Ozarka bottled water by the case. I wonder what happens to all those plastic bottles? Somewhere I read that most bottled water is really tap water. Go figure. These days though, it's the monkeys flying out of my butt that I worry about. They are all going down the toilet along with the crap - I wonder what that does to the ground water used for drinking or growing food? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Downright humility-inspiring
On 5/6/2014 1:50 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are Maybe so, but there's nothing quite like posting and replying to messages on an internet discussion forum when you don't have anything better to do. And, it makes you and others feel better when they have somebody to talk to. It's really a high calling and spiritual one too. For some, this is about as close to a spiritual practice as some people get in a day. For a very select few, all they have to do is get up early in the morning, brew some coffee in the kitchen, and then walk down the hall to their home office and use the company computer on company time for their social networking. Sweet! From what I've read, one informant who lives in a rented upstairs bedroom in the city, has a laptop, so he just composes messages right from his bed. Then, he goes to a coffee shop in order to get the free Wi_Fi for the posting. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Downright humility-inspiring
And others, of course, own their own computers and set their own work schedules. I don't recall ever having seen you mention them. For a very select few, all they have to do is get up early in the morning, brew some coffee in the kitchen, and then walk down the hall to their home office and use the company computer on company time for their social networking. Sweet!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Now Playing
Chuck Berry - You Can't Catch Me - 1956 http://youtu.be/bcblXxc4oqo On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Bo Diddley If you ask me I'd say that there is nothing, just absolutely nothing, that you can do in your whole entire lifetime that will top the level of cool that Bo Diddley hit in this performance back in 1965. - Jason McHenry Bo Diddley- Live Performance http://youtu.be/IMZjAOoX6nw Bo Diddley - 1955 45 RPM recording http://youtu.be/8XxGUIbYjmY You Can't Judge a Book by the Cover http://youtu.be/Lch0o4wwGyw One of the founders, if not the founder of rock 'n roll, Bo Diddley invented the rock signature beat, a simple five-accent clave driving rhythm. Hard edge electric guitar - one of the corner stones of rock. In 2004, Rolling Stone ranked him No. 20 on their list of the 100 Greatest Artists of All Time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo_Diddley
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
Of course, as far as Barry is concerned, all those who don't agree with him that human beings are insignificant have been and always will be fanatics whom history will remember as tyrants and killers. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring hey Steve and turq, this just came to me: we can think that we're not a big influence in the universe. But act as if we are a beneficial influence (-: You can act as if you are a banana for all I care. But that doesn't make you one. :-) Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide -- from the Crusades to the Inquisition to modern Jihads. It seems to me that it Really Doesn't Matter how they thought of themselves and the influence they believed they had on the world was -- the only thing that matters is what actually happened. I somehow don't think that the heretic being burned at the stake by someone whose face is the very picture of blissful religious fervor is gonna feel quite the same way that the fanatic does. But in the end it all comes down to preference, as far as I can tell. There are humans who seem to feel better about themselves based on feelings they have about their supposed importance, and there are those who feel better about themselves when keeping in mind their essential unimportance. I prefer not to hang with the former. History has a tendency to remember them as tyrants and killers, not as beneficial. List of major religious wars Lowest estimate Highest estimate Event Location Religions involved 3,000,000 11,500,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-11 Thirty Years' War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War Holy Roman Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire Protestants and Catholics 2,000,000 4,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-12 French Wars of Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion France http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France Protestants and Catholics 1,000,000 3,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-13 Nigerian Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War Nigeria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria Islam and Christian 1,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-14 2,000,000 Second Sudanese Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sudanese_Civil_War Sudan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan Islam and Christian 1,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-15 3,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-16 Crusades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades Holy Land, Europe Islam and Christian 130,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-17 250,000 Lebanese Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War Lebanon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon Sunni, Shiite and Christian On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:25 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... Thank God many other elements on this Earth and the Earth itself makes humanity look so insignificant. However, in the way we influence this poor planet and each other is not insignificant if you consider we all live in a fish bowl. How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond True and False
On 5/6/2014 2:33 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Besides, this author gets database theory, and why I don't believe in a hierarchical universe. Not sure where you are going with this, but a SQL database is hierarchical. A database model that is organized into the tree structure - like a parent-child relationship. A database contains individual records represented by a row and each attribute as a column. That little red book you keep with all your girlfriend phone numbers is hierarchical. It's not complicated. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
On 5/6/2014 7:07 AM, Share Long wrote: hey Steve and turq, this just came to me: we can think that we're not a big influence in the universe. But act as if we are a beneficial influence (-: We might have a different outlook if we all realized that the universe is a product of our own consciousness. There's nothing out there that isn't on the inside. Maybe the universe is a hologram and it takes a conscious brain to make it coherent. Maybe what's inside is even bigger than what we perceive to be the outside. The question is, if a person ceases to exist, is there still a material universe out there? If the universe is a mental projection, how do we account for the constructed character of knowing? We all seem to be experiencing the same thing: tables are tables and chairs are chairs. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
On 5/6/2014 7:32 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide Were Genghis Khan, Stalin, Hitler, Mao or Pol Pot religious people? According to the history I've read, */most/* of the wars and instances of genocide were perpetrated by people with a political ideology. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/5/2014 10:54 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote: On 5/5/2014 11:48 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Perhaps you ought to read up of glyphosates. It's just that most folks around here don't think it's important to take up arms to oppose the use of Roundup in gardens. Go figure. We can hardly find Roundup any more in Victoria. It has been pretty much banned at the strength you used to be able to buy it. My husband, because he is a lawn fanatic, loves the stuff. I forbid him to use it and luckily he has a hard time getting his hands on it. But like any addict, he usually finds some source - in this case another woman who owns a sheep farm and can get the industrial strength stuff. It's probably not going to kill you, Ann, unless you eat the grass or use your lawn as a table. Roundup works pretty good on sidewalks and driveways to kill unsightly weeds, but I wouldn't drink the stuff. The exhaust fumes from your car on the way to the feed store might be a greater hazard to your health. Funny you should say that. My animal's vet said to my husband once that after Roundup was used and dried or was absorbed by the plant it became pretty much non toxic to animals even if they were to eat that plant. I don't buy it but he must have been reading some Monsanto literature. Some people around here have cesspools in the ground because they don't have access to city waste facilities and they have wells to get drinking water. You put the cesspools and the water wells too close together and then spray Roundup all over, you're bound to get some bad effects! Our land doesn't perk so we had to put in a water treatment plant up in the woods at the top of our property. These little plants usually cost in the range of $25K to install but it does ensure no leakage onto the property. The ironic thing is, every so often they still have to come and pump it out like a septic tank and then they promptly go and throw it into the Strait of Juan de Fuca off the end of the Peninsula here on Vancouver Island. This city still has no waste treatment plant other than the ocean. Nice, eh? The justification for this is that Victoria's population has poop that doesn't stink. Some city people have to drink tap water from a recycling plant. Or, they buy Ozarka bottled water by the case. I wonder what happens to all those plastic bottles? Somewhere I read that most bottled water is really tap water. Go figure. Idiots who feel like they might die of dehydration unless they're clutching a bottle of water all day is some strange behavioural abnormality that has arisen within the last 10 years. I refuse to drink that much water and certainly don't buy bottled water. Between holding on for dear life to their cell phones and balancing a bottle of water in the other hand no one can even scratch a mosquito bite without dropping one or the other. These days though, it's the monkeys flying out of my butt that I worry about. They are all going down the toilet along with the crap - I wonder what that does to the ground water used for drinking or growing food? I have always wondered if those monkeys looked like the ones in the Wizard of Oz. Do they? This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Downright humility-inspiring
On 5/6/2014 8:15 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *And others, of course, own their own computers and set their own work schedules. I don't recall ever having seen you mention /them/.* * *There are some people that are /*self-employed*/, who have their own /*home office*/ to work out of. They often get up really early to get to work posting to FFL at 4:00 or 5:00 AM. Some people may even have multiple computer screens and windows open and stay online all day, monitoring the email screen so they can keep up with the fast pace of the dialog here on FFL. And, I wouldn't be surprised if one of these types had a little ding sound to alert them of a new email so they could reply within 30 seconds. Go figure. * * For a very select few, all they have to do is get up early in the morning, brew some coffee in the kitchen, and then walk down the hall to their home office and use the company computer on company time for their social networking. Sweet! --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
turq, here's some banana nostalgia and practical info too. Enjoy! Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 7:35 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring hey Steve and turq, this just came to me: we can think that we're not a big influence in the universe. But act as if we are a beneficial influence (-: You can act as if you are a banana for all I care. But that doesn't make you one. :-) Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide -- from the Crusades to the Inquisition to modern Jihads. It seems to me that it Really Doesn't Matter how they thought of themselves and the influence they believed they had on the world was -- the only thing that matters is what actually happened. I somehow don't think that the heretic being burned at the stake by someone whose face is the very picture of blissful religious fervor is gonna feel quite the same way that the fanatic does. But in the end it all comes down to preference, as far as I can tell. There are humans who seem to feel better about themselves based on feelings they have about their supposed importance, and there are those who feel better about themselves when keeping in mind their essential unimportance. I prefer not to hang with the former. History has a tendency to remember them as tyrants and killers, not as beneficial. List of major religious wars Lowest estimate Highest estimate Event Location Religions involved 3,000,000 11,500,000 Thirty Years' War Holy Roman Empire Protestants and Catholics 2,000,000 4,000,000 French Wars of Religion France Protestants and Catholics 1,000,000 3,000,000 Nigerian Civil War Nigeria Islam and Christian 1,000,000 2,000,000 Second Sudanese Civil War Sudan Islam and Christian 1,000,000 3,000,000 Crusades Holy Land, Europe Islam and Christian 130,000 250,000 Lebanese Civil War Lebanon Sunni, Shiite and Christian On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:25 AM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? How Many Things Are There? View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
I love, love, love, love bottled water.
On Tue, 5/6/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 2:07 PM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
punditster@... wrote :
On
5/5/2014 10:54 PM,
awoelflebater@...
wrote:
On
5/5/2014 11:48 AM, Bhairitu
wrote:
Perhaps you ought to read
up of glyphosates.
It's just that most folks around here don't think
it's important
to take
up arms to oppose the use of Roundup in gardens. Go
figure.
We can
hardly find Roundup any more in
Victoria. It has been pretty much banned at the strength you
used to be able to buy it. My husband, because he is a lawn
fanatic, loves the stuff. I forbid him to use it and luckily
he has a hard time getting his hands on it. But like any
addict, he usually finds some source - in this case another
woman who owns a sheep farm and can get the industrial
strength stuff.
It's probably not going to kill you, Ann, unless you eat
the grass
or use your lawn as a table. Roundup works pretty good on
sidewalks
and driveways to kill unsightly weeds, but I wouldn't
drink the
stuff. The exhaust fumes from your car on the way to the
feed store
might be a greater hazard to your
health. Funny you should say that. My
animal's vet said to my husband once that after Roundup
was used and dried or was absorbed by the plant it became
pretty much non toxic to animals even if they were to eat
that plant. I don't buy it but he must have been reading
some Monsanto
literature.
Some people around here have cesspools in the ground because
they
don't have access to city waste facilities and they have
wells to
get drinking water. You put the cesspools and the water
wells too
close together and then spray Roundup all over, you're
bound to get
some bad effects! Our land
doesn't perk so we had to put in a water treatment plant
up in the woods at the top of our property. These little
plants usually cost in the range of $25K to
install but it does ensure no leakage onto the property. The
ironic thing is, every so often they still have to come and
pump it out like a septic tank and then they promptly go and
throw it into the Strait of Juan de Fuca off the end of the
Peninsula here on Vancouver Island. This city still has no
waste treatment plant other than the ocean. Nice, eh? The
justification for this is that Victoria's population has
poop that doesn't
stink.
Some city people have to drink tap water from a recycling
plant. Or,
they buy Ozarka bottled water by the case. I wonder what
happens to
all those plastic bottles? Somewhere I read that most
bottled water
is really tap water. Go
figure.Idiots who feel like they might die
of dehydration unless they're clutching a bottle of
water all day is some strange behavioural abnormality that
has arisen within the last 10 years. I refuse to drink that
much water and certainly don't buy bottled water.
Between holding on for dear life to their cell phones and
balancing a bottle of water in the other hand no one can
even scratch a mosquito bite without dropping one or the
other.
These days though, it's the monkeys flying out of my
butt that I
worry about. They are all going down the toilet along with
the crap
- I wonder what that does to the ground water used for
drinking or
growing food? I have
always wondered if those monkeys looked like the ones in the
Wizard of Oz. Do they?
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[FairfieldLife] Neelam: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 05/06/2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/6/2014 7:32 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide You can call yourself anything you want but that doesn't make it so. Every single person who perpetuates a transgression on another human being has an excuse for doing so. Often those excuses take the form of following some greater decree from somewhere outside of themselves. Religion or spirituality is not to blame - it is how these crazy beings we call humans choose to exploit these things that is part of the problem. Mass destruction of other human beings comes from an illness, from disease of the mind, spirit and most likely the body as well. And I dare say these diseased tyrants, in the end, had a rather significant effect on those who came under their tyranny. It's all relative, Bawee. Were Genghis Khan, Stalin, Hitler, Mao or Pol Pot religious people? According to the history I've read, most of the wars and instances of genocide were perpetrated by people with a political ideology. Go figure. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
The point is, these fanatics are also lunatics. Most of these god-men are also mad-men. --- authfriend@... wrote : Of course, as far as Barry is concerned, all those who don't agree with him that human beings are insignificant, have been and always will be fanatics whom history will remember as tyrants and killers. From: Share Long sharelong60@... hey Steve and turq, this just came to me: we can think that we're not a big influence in the universe. But act as if we are a beneficial influence (-: You can act as if you are a banana for all I care. But that doesn't make you one. :-) Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide -- from the Crusades to the Inquisition to modern Jihads. It seems to me that it Really Doesn't Matter how they thought of themselves and the influence they believed they had on the world was -- the only thing that matters is what actually happened. I somehow don't think that the heretic being burned at the stake by someone whose face is the very picture of blissful religious fervor is gonna feel quite the same way that the fanatic does. But in the end it all comes down to preference, as far as I can tell. There are humans who seem to feel better about themselves based on feelings they have about their supposed importance, and there are those who feel better about themselves when keeping in mind their essential unimportance. I prefer not to hang with the former. History has a tendency to remember them as tyrants and killers, not as beneficial. List of major religious wars Lowest estimate Highest estimate Event Location Religions involved 3,000,000 11,500,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-11 Thirty Years' War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War Holy Roman Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire Protestants and Catholics 2,000,000 4,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-12 French Wars of Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion France http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France Protestants and Catholics 1,000,000 3,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-13 Nigerian Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War Nigeria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria Islam and Christian 1,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-14 2,000,000 Second Sudanese Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sudanese_Civil_War Sudan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan Islam and Christian 1,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-15 3,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-16 Crusades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades Holy Land, Europe Islam and Christian 130,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-17 250,000 Lebanese Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War Lebanon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon Sunni, Shiite and Christian On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:25 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : turq, here's some banana nostalgia and practical info too. Enjoy! Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDOI24RRAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDOI24RRAE Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDOI24RRAE View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo What an amazing bit of propoganda. I loved it. I wonder if those rather stuffy-looking members of the board in that cartoon ate her at the end.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring turq, here's some banana nostalgia and practical info too. Enjoy! Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo Cute. But when it comes to singing yellow things, I still prefer this one (especially with Mothers Day approaching), even though their Minionized language is harder to understand: Minions song - i Swear - Despicable Me 2 Minions song - i Swear - Despicable Me 2 View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thanks pal, my spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks who are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist and stop raght naow! Also I encourage those who are thinking of starting TM not to, and encouraging those who are thinking of going to MUM to also not to. So far I have gotten one prospective MUM student to change his mind, and one meditator who had been regular for more than 40 years to cease and desist - he now does Christian prayer each morning and evening instead of that old Hindu devotional practice that people claim is the secular practice of TM. So not so much volume yet, but each experience is a mighty triumph and feels so so good. So thanks for the idea but I am very fine. You should stop doing TMSP and just hang out on the farm in nature more and join me in getting people to quit TM and TMSP - its a mighty fine spiritual practice! I am also making plans as to how I am gonna torpedo any TM'ers stupid enough to attempt to get that Hindu devotional practice started in any schools in South Carolina. Y Haa! Easy MJ, you don't want to send Buck into a apoplectic fit.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sun...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris Jesus Christ, Rick, are you going to propose marriage to the guy, or just interview him! Well, he and I are both married, not gay, and there’s a big age difference, so that would probably be hard to arrange. But hey, stranger things have happened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’m going to read all of his books before even inviting him, and take notes as I go along, which I’ll share and discuss with you. Then I’ll carefully compose an invitation letter, which I’ll bounce off you also. So it may even be a year before the interview happens, if he agrees to one. But I would want it to be one that really did justice to the guy. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues@... Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris Hey Rick, If you follow the threads from Lawson about Sam Harris you will gain some insight into Harris' world. In most debates and interviews he has to spend most of this time sorting out the misunderstandings about his position caused by people quoting people misrepresenting his ideas rather than his actual points in his books. Richard even posted a attribution to his book under statements from other people misrepresenting his positions, and this is very common all over the internet. If you get a chance to interview him your ability to state his actual points will be a huge rapport builder. And this seems like just an obvious point for any interview but controversial guys like him are more prone to people misrepresenting their ideas to make them look bad so he is extra touchy about this. Just focusing on his actual points that can be challenged for good reasons will make your interview a breath of fresh air for him I am sure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
Maybe so, but that wasn't my point and has nothing to do with my point. The point is, these fanatics are also lunatics. Most of these god-men are also mad-men. --- authfriend@... wrote : Of course, as far as Barry is concerned, all those who don't agree with him that human beings are insignificant, have been and always will be fanatics whom history will remember as tyrants and killers. From: Share Long sharelong60@... hey Steve and turq, this just came to me: we can think that we're not a big influence in the universe. But act as if we are a beneficial influence (-: You can act as if you are a banana for all I care. But that doesn't make you one. :-) Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide -- from the Crusades to the Inquisition to modern Jihads. It seems to me that it Really Doesn't Matter how they thought of themselves and the influence they believed they had on the world was -- the only thing that matters is what actually happened. I somehow don't think that the heretic being burned at the stake by someone whose face is the very picture of blissful religious fervor is gonna feel quite the same way that the fanatic does. But in the end it all comes down to preference, as far as I can tell. There are humans who seem to feel better about themselves based on feelings they have about their supposed importance, and there are those who feel better about themselves when keeping in mind their essential unimportance. I prefer not to hang with the former. History has a tendency to remember them as tyrants and killers, not as beneficial. List of major religious wars Lowest estimate Highest estimate Event Location Religions involved 3,000,000 11,500,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-11 Thirty Years' War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War Holy Roman Empire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire Protestants and Catholics 2,000,000 4,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-12 French Wars of Religion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Wars_of_Religion France http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France Protestants and Catholics 1,000,000 3,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-13 Nigerian Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Civil_War Nigeria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigeria Islam and Christian 1,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-14 2,000,000 Second Sudanese Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Sudanese_Civil_War Sudan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudan Islam and Christian 1,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-15 3,000,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-16 Crusades http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades Holy Land, Europe Islam and Christian 130,000 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war#cite_note-17 250,000 Lebanese Civil War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War Lebanon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon Sunni, Shiite and Christian On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:25 AM, steve.sundur@... steve.sundur@... wrote: The other day, on the radio, they had a piece about something you changed your mind about. And they interviewed a guy, I forget who he was, who said he changed his mind about whether we, as humans, are really as insignificant in the cosmic scheme of things as is sometimes said to be the case. It just happened to be something I had been thinking about as well. Maybe we're not. His point was that, in at least our little corner of the universe, immense as it is, we can seem to raise anyone else. Anyway, it doesn't mean it needs to translate into some egotistical notion about our importance. It's just an observation. Pretty ugly graphic, I'd have to say though. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : For those who feel the need to post every so often about how important TMers are, or how important the butt-bouncers of Fairfield are, or even how important to the universe human beings on planet Earth are, here's a graphic to put things into somewhat more accurate perspective. It's a visualization of every human being on the planet -- all 7.2 billion of us -- piled up in the Grand Canyon. The video below the photo explains things -- literally -- a bit more... How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk How Many Things Are There? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6eOcd06kdk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
Minions forever, yay! On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:27 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring turq, here's some banana nostalgia and practical info too. Enjoy! Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial Chiquita Banana The Original Commercial View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo Cute. But when it comes to singing yellow things, I still prefer this one (especially with Mothers Day approaching), even though their Minionized language is harder to understand: Minions song - i Swear - Despicable Me 2 Minions song - i Swear - Despicable Me 2 View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
Please, don't be too hard on the Buckminister. He is simply unable to differentiate between TM, and the TM-org, and MMY. So should you. --- mjackson74@... wrote : Thanks pal, my spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks who are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist and stop raght naow! Also I encourage those who are thinking of starting TM not to, and encouraging those who are thinking of going to MUM to also not to. So far I have gotten one prospective MUM student to change his mind, and one meditator who had been regular for more than 40 years to cease and desist - he now does Christian prayer each morning and evening instead of that old Hindu devotional practice that people claim is the secular practice of TM. So not so much volume yet, but each experience is a mighty triumph and feels so so good. So thanks for the idea but I am very fine. You should stop doing TMSP and just hang out on the farm in nature more and join me in getting people to quit TM and TMSP - its a mighty fine spiritual practice! I am also making plans as to how I am gonna torpedo any TM'ers stupid enough to attempt to get that Hindu devotional practice started in any schools in South Carolina. Y Haa! --- awoelflebater@... wrote : Easy MJ, you don't want to send Buck into a apoplectic fit. ! MJ attempts escape from his sin by blending in to a crowd! “...And if you want me to repent, why don't you suggest Curtis, Barry, Sal and Edg repent too? Am I the only spiritual sinner here on FFL?” awoelflebater writes: I still say you are giving MMY way too much influence and power, crediting him with seemingly boundless corruption and negative effect on vast numbers of people. He may have been imperfect as a man, he may not have been enlightened (if there is such a thing - not in my books but, whatever) and he may have had sex with women. This hardly puts him in the league with half the adult population on the planet with regard to 'badness'. Sometimes your imagination appears to get the better of you MJ. At best, TM is a healing, restful, expanding practice and at worst it does nothing but provide an opportunity for a 20 minute nap. MMY's personal foibles are just that, personal foibles. To let his weaknesses or supposedly misleading 'scientific' assertions ruin the rest of your adult life is giving him influence over you that is probably not for the best. I also understand that you were 'abused' by other asshats in the Movement but MMY is not responsible for their idiocy or small mindedness. Put blame where blame is due. MJ pleads: And if you want me to repent, why don't you suggest Curtis, Barry, Sal and Edg repent too? Am I the only spiritual sinner here on FFL? Yep both MJ and the jedi-spock in this thread here, you'll both be known for eternity in some negative footnotes to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi by your own comparisons. Repent your ways before it is too late. -Buck What a vile comparison. You're no jedi. Not even close. -Buck in the Dome Jedi_spock writes on FFL: History is full of false prophets. MMY is no exception. Lenin predicted that communism will pave public toilets with gold.! Hitler predicted a thousand year reich. Prophet Muhammed even promised a X-rated paradise. Moses was a genocidal killer who murdered even babies. All religions and cultures are full of these kind of conmen and bandits. !Repent! !Repent You Spiritual sinner(s)! mjackson74 declares: Marshy was a liar and a fraud and his movement is an organization that perpetuates the fraud. So he deserves no consideration. Son, he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for the work he did in the world on behalf of science, spirituality and humanity. As to your much vaunted Marshy Effect, the main effect is to keep the True Believers in a mind numbed state, and to keep their money flowing into the pockets of lazy individuals like Bevan and Girish who are parasites living on the hard work of others. As to the effect of TMSP in groups creating world peace - get online and look up the Little Rascals episode A Lad and a Lamp and you will see that if you, Buck, go to a flea market and buy an old brass lamp, rub it and say I wish Cotton was a money, I wish Cotton was a monkey over and over and over, then take the same brass lamp, rub it during program and say I wish they was world peace, I wish they was world peace over and over and over you will find that Cotton will actually become a monkey from your lamp rubbing and wishing it so long before you will get world peace from the genie of a lamp or doing TMSP in a group. You are reflecting a projection. Son, look away from the mirror! MJ, step away from the mirror!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
On 05/06/2014 05:45 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 5/5/2014 10:54 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: On 5/5/2014 11:48 AM, Bhairitu wrote: Perhaps you ought to read up of glyphosates. It's just that most folks around here don't think it's important to take up arms to oppose the use of Roundup in gardens. Go figure. We can hardly find Roundup any more in Victoria. It has been pretty much banned at the strength you used to be able to buy it. My husband, because he is a lawn fanatic, loves the stuff. I forbid him to use it and luckily he has a hard time getting his hands on it. But like any addict, he usually finds some source - in this case another woman who owns a sheep farm and can get the industrial strength stuff. It's probably not going to kill you, Ann, unless you eat the grass or use your lawn as a table. Roundup works pretty good on sidewalks and driveways to kill unsightly weeds, but I wouldn't drink the stuff. It gets into the water supply through runoff. Some people around here have cesspools in the ground because they don't have access to city waste facilities and they have wells to get drinking water. You put the cesspools and the water wells too close together and then spray Roundup all over, you're bound to get some bad effects! That way too though the small town I grew up put in a sewer system so the well water wouldn't be contaminated. Some city people have to drink tap water from a recycling plant. Or, they buy Ozarka bottled water by the case. I wonder what happens to all those plastic bottles? Somewhere I read that most bottled water is really tap water. Go figure. Most people recycle them. But it used to be easier to do that at the grocery store. Unless the water is poured hot into the bottle you aren't probably going to get much plastic. But we probably don't need fluoride (also a glyphosate) in the water anymore. That was just a scam by the aluminum companies to make money off their waste. These days though, it's the monkeys flying out of my butt that I worry about. They are all going down the toilet along with the crap - I wonder what that does to the ground water used for drinking or growing food? I live near a creek that has the reputation of having creek monkeys that escaped from a circus decades ago and there is a legend that they lived for years near creek. Hmm, I might be able to turn that into a b-movie horror film.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
hey, haven't you been listening to them jaspers Rick interviews on BATGAP? They claim ever thang is one anyhow so... On Tue, 5/6/14, jedi_sp...@yahoo.com jedi_sp...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 3:41 PM Please, don't be too hard on the Buckminister. He is simply unable to differentiate between TM, and the TM-org, and MMY. So should you. --- mjackson74@... wrote : Thanks pal, my spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks who are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist and stop raght naow! Also I encourage those who are thinking of starting TM not to, and encouraging those who are thinking of going to MUM to also not to. So far I have gotten one prospective MUM student to change his mind, and one meditator who had been regular for more than 40 years to cease and desist - he now does Christian prayer each morning and evening instead of that old Hindu devotional practice that people claim is the secular practice of TM. So not so much volume yet, but each experience is a mighty triumph and feels so so good. So thanks for the idea but I am very fine. You should stop doing TMSP and just hang out on the farm in nature more and join me in getting people to quit TM and TMSP - its a mighty fine spiritual practice! I am also making plans as to how I am gonna torpedo any TM'ers stupid enough to attempt to get that Hindu devotional practice started in any schools in South Carolina. Y Haa! --- awoelflebater@... wrote : Easy MJ, you don't want to send Buck into a apoplectic fit. ! MJ attempts escape from his sin by blending in to a crowd! “...And if you want me to repent, why don't you suggest Curtis, Barry, Sal and Edg repent too? Am I the only spiritual sinner here on FFL?”awoelflebater writes: I still say you are giving MMY way too much influence and power, crediting him with seemingly boundless corruption and negative effect on vast numbers of people. He may have been imperfect as a man, he may not have been enlightened (if there is such a thing - not in my books but, whatever) and he may have had sex with women. This hardly puts him in the league with half the adult population on the planet with regard to 'badness'. Sometimes your imagination appears to get the better of you MJ. At best, TM is a healing, restful, expanding practice and at worst it does nothing but provide an opportunity for a 20 minute nap. MMY's personal foibles are just that, personal foibles. To let his weaknesses or supposedly misleading 'scientific' assertions ruin the rest of your adult life is giving him influence over you that is probably not for the best. I also understand that you were 'abused' by other asshats in the Movement but MMY is not responsible for their idiocy or small mindedness. Put blame where blame is due. MJ pleads:And if you want me to repent, why don't you suggest Curtis, Barry, Sal and Edg repent too? Am I the only spiritual sinner here on FFL? Yep both MJ and the jedi-spock in this thread here, you'll both be known for eternity in some negative footnotes to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi by your own comparisons. Repent your ways before it is too late. -Buck What a vile comparison.You're no jedi. Not even close.-Buck in the Dome Jedi_spock writes on FFL: History is full of false prophets. MMY is no exception. Lenin predicted that communism will pave public toilets with gold.! Hitler predicted a thousand year reich. Prophet Muhammed even promised a X-rated paradise. Moses was a genocidal killer who murdered even babies. All religions and cultures are full of these kind of conmen and bandits. !Repent! !Repent You Spiritual sinner(s)! mjackson74 declares: Marshy was a liar and a fraud and his movement is an organization that perpetuates the fraud. So he deserves no consideration. Son, he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for the work he did in the world on behalf of science, spirituality and humanity. As to your much vaunted Marshy Effect, the main effect is to keep the True Believers in a mind numbed state, and to keep their money flowing into the pockets of lazy individuals like Bevan and Girish who are parasites living on the hard work of others. As to the effect of TMSP in groups creating world peace - get online and look up the Little Rascals episode A Lad and a Lamp and you will see that if you, Buck, go to a flea market and buy an old brass lamp, rub it and say I wish Cotton was a money, I wish Cotton was a monkey over and over and over, then take the same brass lamp, rub it during program and say I wish they was world
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
I'm about to go back to drinking it for a while because the city water has algae in it which they claim is harmless but stinks. I have a refer with a filter for water which helps but doesn't get rid of the algae that well. When I was at a movie last year they told me the drinks might smell because of the algae in the water. I was surprised that the pop machines didn't have a filter on they line. I seem to recall they used too. Maybe they do but it can't get rid of the algae. On 05/06/2014 08:14 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I love, love, love, love bottled water.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Metabolic typing made easy
I did the original metabolic typing program back in 1981. You had to fill out a book of questions plus get blood panel and urine test. I came out like a functioning type A with a type B subtype. After about six months I was retested and was functioning as a type B (carb type). There was a bunch of TM folks in the Seattle doing the program and it is now run by a former TM center chairman. This was all before MAPI was around. I couldn't afford all the supplements but came across an ad for Dr. George Watson's second book and testing kit. I used those vitamins through the 1990s and still have the testing kit. The company that sold the vitamins stopped making them and I get similar supplements from other sources. On 05/05/2014 05:37 PM, Share Long wrote: thanks, noozguru, short test and I also like the names for the different types. I turned out to be a C type. I crave both sweet and salty. Helpful to know that I should be eating 33% of fat, protein and carbs. On Monday, May 5, 2014 11:05 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Every so once in a while I search on the Internet for more articles and information on metabolic typing which is sort of a modern day body type system along the lines of ayurveda or Chinese medicine. It is often complicated and difficult to explain and practitioners often are looking for better and simpler ways for the public to discover their functioning body type. Here's Dr. Oz's good attempt at it. It's a simple quiz and there are also some videos and menu articles available there: http://www.doctoroz.com/quiz/quiz-what-your-metabolism-type
[FairfieldLife] Keeping the Fair in Fairfield: Join Us in Saying No To the Heartland Co-op Location
Dear Fairfield Community Member, Fairfield needs your help! We are happy to announce that a new, Iowa non-profit organization, Ahead-Iowa [Alliance for Healthy Economic and Agricultural Development in Iowa] has been formed as a vehicle to voice our opposition to the location of the Heartland Co-op project. You are invited become a member now. In just a few hours at Art Walk last Friday we signed up 194 new members! We'd like to grow very quickly and demonstrate the strength in our numbers. 1) Please take a minute now, click on the link to our website: http://www.AHEAD-Iowa.org/ and enter your contact info on the membership form. 2) Then forward this email to your family, friends, co-workers and neighbors, encouraging them to join as members too. Heartland Will Respond As Long As We Show We Care! Join AHEAD (http://www.AHEAD-Iowa.org/) While we all want to create progress and support county farmers, the proposed Heartland Co-op project just isn't a good fit for the location. Here are just a few reasons why, and how the project is likely to affect you: Infrastructure Costs. Upgrading the roads leading to the facility (Nutmeg and Osage) will cost $5+ million. If these roads aren't upgraded, trucks coming from north and south counties will end up going through Fairfield streets. Either way, taxpayers lose out. It would take around 25 years in property taxes from the facility to pay back the loans needed to pave those roads before the county sees a single cent of income from the facility. Further, numerous infrastructure costs haven't been accounted for. In particular, the one-lane railroad overpass on Nutmeg, built in 1900, may be structurally inadequate to handle the expected volume of truck traffic. Upgrades to widen and/or realign it could cost many millions of dollars. Who will pay the bill for these improvements, if needed? Help us ensure that Jeffco taxpayers don't end up footing the bill. Say NO to More Infrastructure Costs! Join AHEAD (http://www.AHEAD-Iowa.org/) Potential Health Issues. Grain dust emissions are regulated under the EPA Clean Air Act, and numerous studies document the adverse health effects of grain dust exposure. The fine particulate matter (PM) of grain dust can travel for miles and is known to cause respiratory issues. We have no details on the projected PM emissions from the Heartland Co-op grain elevator, and we do not yet know to what extent emissions will be a problem. But residents of Jefferson County have a right to know before more taxpayer dollars is invested in the project. Keep your lungs clean. Join AHEAD! (http://www.AHEAD-Iowa.org/) A Trojan Horse? The grain elevator and rail spur planned for Phase 1 and 2 take up only a small portion of the 160 acres purchased by the Heartland Co-op Board. A Phase 3 is planned, but the full scope of the project is not known, and Heartland is not providing details. What's in the elusive Phase 3? The size of the site could accommodate anything from a fertilizer plant to an ethanol production facility—both major air polluters within less than a mile from Fairfield's eastern border. Jefferson County residents have a right to know the full scope of the project, before our elected officials dedicate another penny to its development. Say no to Expansion of Heartland. Join AHEAD now. (http://www.AHEAD-Iowa.org/) The Heartland Co-op project is a wake-up call that we need to take steps to preserve the quality of life and rich heritage in Fairfield's 175-year history, especially over the last four decades. There are so many things we can do to prevent the Heartland project, and ensure a better future for Fairfield and Jefferson County residents going forward. Support a Healthy, Prosperous Future for JeffCo: Join AHEAD! (http://www.AHEAD-Iowa.org/) To coordinate efforts towards a relocation of the Heartland Co-op grain elevator, we have formed a non-profit organization, AHEAD-Iowa (Alliance for Healthy Economic and Agricultural Development in Iowa). AHEAD will continue to research the quality-of-life implications of the Heartland Co-op project, and share them with you as they become available. The organization was also founded to create a forum for efforts to preserve the quality of life for all residents of Fairfield and Jefferson County, and further growth and development to support the well-being of future generations. Join us to add your voice to current efforts to relocate the project! It doesn't cost anything to join, and you will be part of a large group working to ensure a better future for our wonderful community. We hope you will join us. http://www.AHEAD-Iowa.org/ Please forward this email to anyone who wants to preserve and enhance the quality of life of our community. If you want to be included in these mailings, please send
[FairfieldLife] Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
Email to tom.whee...@fcc.gov supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: tom.whee...@fcc.gov Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: mignon.clyb...@fcc.gov Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: jessica.rosenwor...@fcc.gov Commissioner Ajit Pai: ajit@fcc.gov Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’rie...@fcc.gov To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/ http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: Tom.Wheeler@... Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: Mignon.Clyburn@... Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: Jessica.Rosenworcel@... Commissioner Ajit Pai: Ajit.Pai@... Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’Rielly@... To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/ http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: Thanks pal, my spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks who are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist and stop raght naow! Sounds kind of like a fundamentalist religious cult. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ending the Use of Dirty Fuels, Years of Living Dangerously...global warming
EarthFirst! Should be the battle cry of everyone. There should be no compromise on this. It is quite time for a radical change now. It is time for a spiritual revolution to save all life on planet earth now. As an immediate start everyone should be spending no less that a third of their 24 hour day in restful alertness in quiet time meditation. Four hours in the morning, four hours in the afternoon. This becomes critical in the remediation of the atmosphere and climate on a crowded planet now. Maharishi: It can be. Vernon: But in this age where there is so much stress and tension? Maharishi: For one thing, there could be a national policy to have an hour's silence morning and evening. An hour of silence. All the busses, all the trains, everything stops. No movement. Aeroplanes don't take off. And then a national calm hour, morning and evening for the whole country. … It could be put on an automatic basis -some automatic timing devices. Everything should be purposely put off, everything stopped. And then the workers don't go to the factory at seven o;clock -only at nine o'clock, ten o'clock. They should have some life at home -in the freshness of the mornings. p-377-8 Conversations with Maharishi, Vol I. Vernon Katz MUM Press 2001 At home, in the workplace, at school. Meditating A third of a day everyday for everyone now. The world would be so much a better place for everyone in so many ways if people everywhere would just stop to take quiet time meditation. People spending more quiet time, spent in effective spiritual practice, is really the only antidote. We simply must break the materialism of the world now. -Buck in the Dome !Picturing Armageddon! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27232523 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27232523 To really mediate this, we need much better public school education using and teaching all that is scientific towards a more invincible future. Like taking more quiet time employing effective transcending meditation into the educational design of our schools, employing quiet time meditation in to our workplaces, and taking meditation in to our homes and home-life. -Buck We need a revolution in the spiritual outlook of humanity right now. This is about public education. An Entrenched Materialism of our vast human race is the problem at core. The problem is fundamentally spiritual. We Must, End the Use of Dirty Fuels, Now. .. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27008352 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27008352 The problem is way too beyond just sustainability. We are talking survival. As a species. It is quite time for a change. Radical change. -Buck in the Dome The World Simply Must End the Use of Dirty Fuels, Rampant Materialism, Hyper-Industrial Production and the Over-consumption of the consumer economies of the world at too high a level by too many people to be sustainable is the problem. sharelong60 writes: What does the Syrian war, destruction of Indonesian parks and Texas have in common? The premiere of a new Showtime series, Years of Living Dangerously, unexpectedly on global warming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brvhCnYvxQQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brvhCnYvxQQ Its 1 hour. . Om Shanti . . .
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: my spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks who are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist and stop raght naow! So, you've quit the China chi-chong practice? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
On 5/6/2014 10:14 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I love, love, love, love bottled water. According to what I've read, it's mostly tap water. So, what do you do with the empty bottles? Apparently it takes 1000 years to break down the plastic. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: Tom.Wheeler@... Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: Mignon.Clyburn@... Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: Jessica.Rosenworcel@... Commissioner Ajit Pai: Ajit.Pai@... Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’Rielly@... To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/ http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: They claim ever thang is one anyhow so... Well, at least we know you can count to one. But, can you fix a computer? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
As usual you are a complete idiot. And you listen to the bullshit claims of
advertising that tout not bottled water, bt... filtered water. What you
and a lot of other bottled water opponents don't realize is the campaign
against bottled water was started some years ago by the companies that own
Brita, Pur and other water filtration systems.
All those bs ads about how the waters are filtered tap water and all the other
claims against them can easily be debunked. First, some, not all waters are
filtered tap water, such as Dasani and Aquafina. They clearly state on the
bottles that this is the source. Its not like the companies are trying to hide
the fact. I drink a brand called Springtime which comes from the Crystalline
Piedmont Rock Aquifer from an artesian well in Appling Georgia - they still
filter it to make sure its up to their standards.
And the companies that squall so loudly about others who market filtered tap
water? What do they want yo you to do? They want you to use Brita, Pur, Zero
and other brands of filter pitchers or tap filters. And what do you get if you
use these filtration systems? Filtered tap water. As you love to say, go figger.
The idea also that the bottles empty water bottles are gonna pile up till they
take over the earth is ignoring the fact that they are RECYCLABLE and can be
reused or turned into something else. I recycle mine.
The city water here in Newberry is so full o chlorine and the Pur and Britas
just don't do the job well enough for me to drink and cook with what I get from
the tap. Besides, I went to high school with a guy who went to work at the
local water treatment plant and he started drinking bottled water immediately
after he started working there. He would never say way beyond If you saw what
we put in the water to purify it... and then he'd shake his head.
And if all the companies and environmental messages that come out in these ads
are sooo concerned with carbon footprinting and how much oil is being used
to make the bottles and the idea the bottles stay around forever are telling
the truth and they are sooo concerned about Mother Earth why aren't they
taking the soft drink manufacturers, the bottled juice makers and the milk
producers for doing the same damn thing? I guarantee you there are far more
plastic bottles being made to enclose Pepsi, Coke, Dr. Pepper, Sprite and on
and on, not to mention the RC Colas you are drinking everyday Richey, then
those that are made for the bottled water trade.
So yeah, I am gonna go have me a pint right now and enjoy it immensely.
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On Tue, 5/6/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 5:45 PM
On 5/6/2014 10:14 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
I love, love, love, love bottled water.
According to what I've read, it's mostly tap water.
So, what do you do
with the empty bottles? Apparently it takes 1000 years to
break down the
plastic. Go figure.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
Ship me yours and you'll find out.
On Tue, 5/6/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance
Spiritually
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 5:57 PM
On 5/6/2014 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
They claim ever thang is one anyhow so...
Well, at least we know you can count to one. But, can you
fix a
computer? Go figure.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
If it says Spring Water or Artesian Water on the label, then it's required to be spring or artesian water, not tap water. There are many reasons to avoid bottled water, but not being able to tell whether it's tap water isn't one of them (assuming you can read). I love, love, love, love bottled water. According to what I've read, it's mostly tap water. So, what do you do with the empty bottles? Apparently it takes 1000 years to break down the plastic. Go figure. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Downright humility-inspiring
On 5/6/2014 7:32 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Historically, those humans throughout history who have most vocally called themselves spiritual or religious have also been the ones who perpetrated most of the wars and instances of genocide The greed for power and jealousy are by far the most common reasons for wars. Those who claim that more people have died in the name of religion either haven't studied the history of war. Go figure. 'Have more people died in wars over religion or wars over money or power?' https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080915194148AA9m0Eh --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
Sounds like Buck might condone censorship of some kind. On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:55 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: Tom.Wheeler@... Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: Mignon.Clyburn@... Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: Jessica.Rosenworcel@... Commissioner Ajit Pai: Ajit.Pai@... Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’Rielly@... To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Keeping the Fair in Fairfield: Join Us in Saying No To the Heartland Co-op Location
On 5/6/2014 11:10 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Keeping the Fair in Fairfield: Join Us in Saying No To the Heartland Co-op Location My vote probably won't count, but I'd say locate the food co-op in downtown Fairfield, where the people live and so Share and other people could walk to the store to get their food. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality
Since February, virtually the entire U.S. news media has cooperated in the effort to play down the neo-Nazi role, dismissing any mention of this inconvenient truth as “Russian propaganda.” Stories in the U.S. media delicately step around the neo-Nazi reality by keeping out relevant context, such as the background of national security chief Andriy Parubiy, who founded the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Parubiy was commandant of the Maidan’s 'self-defense forces.' Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality | Consortiumnews http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality | Consortiumnews http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ Exclusive: The horrendous fire in Odessa, killing dozens of ethnic Russians protesting against the U.S.-backed coup regime in Kiev, has lurched the country closer t... View on consortiumnews.com http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
He very well might. But if you've noticed, he's not the only person telling others what they can post and what they can't and trying to intimidate them, is he? The person berating him in this post is doing the same thing, and has done it more than any other person on this forum. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead Sounds like Buck might condone censorship of some kind. On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:55 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: Tom.Wheeler@... Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: Mignon.Clyburn@... Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: Jessica.Rosenworcel@... Commissioner Ajit Pai: Ajit.Pai@... Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’Rielly@... To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
On 5/6/2014 1:06 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: The idea also that the bottles empty water bottles are gonna pile up till they take over the earth is ignoring the fact that they are RECYCLABLE and can be reused or turned into something else. I recycle mine. According to my sources, there is no plastic recycling plant in Newberry, S.C. Why don't you just get a bucket full of water from Lake Murray? http://www.recyclerfinder.com/ http://www.recyclerfinder.com/?page=searchmiles=50zipcode=29018MATERIAL_ID=24 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality
Since February, virtually the entire U.S. news media has cooperated in the effort to play down the neo-Nazi role, dismissing any mention of this inconvenient truth as “Russian propaganda.” Stories in the U.S. media delicately step around the neo-Nazi reality by keeping out relevant context, such as the background of national security chief Andriy Parubiy, who founded the Social-National Party of Ukraine in 1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi symbols. Parubiy was commandant of the Maidan’s 'self-defense forces.' Read more: Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality | Consortiumnews http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality | Consortiumnews http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ Exclusive: The horrendous fire in Odessa, killing dozens of ethnic Russians protesting against the U.S.-backed coup regime in Kiev, has lurched the country closer t... View on consortiumnews.com http://consortiumnews.com/2014/05/05/ukraines-dr-strangelove-reality/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
Back on topic: Call or email your Congress Critters to save Net Neutrality. IF you don't stand up RIGHT NOW and fight for a free and open internet, don't let me hear you complain when it's gone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Keeping the Fair in Fairfield: Join Us in Saying No To the Heartland Co-op Location
Uh, thanks, Richard but heartland is not a nice, friendly food co-op. They're a group hoping to build a granary about a mile east of the square. Lots of noise and GMO dust pollution. To go along with the Roundup runoff already happening! On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 1:25 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/6/2014 11:10 AM, Rick Archer wrote: Keeping the Fair in Fairfield: Join Us in Saying No To the Heartland Co-op Location My vote probably won't count, but I'd say locate the food co-op in downtown Fairfield, where the people live and so Share and other people could walk to the store to get their food. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
Discouraging Richard but good to know... On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 12:45 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/6/2014 10:14 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I love, love, love, love bottled water. According to what I've read, it's mostly tap water. So, what do you do with the empty bottles? Apparently it takes 1000 years to break down the plastic. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
On 5/6/2014 1:11 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: *If it says Spring Water or Artesian Water on the label, then it's required to be spring or artesian water, not tap water. There are many reasons to avoid bottled water, but not being able to tell whether it's tap water isn't one of them (assuming you can read).* * *Almost all drinking water comes out of a tap or a spigot at some point, even if it's from a spring or an aquifer and put into a bottle, unless you take your own bucket to Lake Murray.** One guy I know collects rain water in a 500 gallon container system and uses a sand filter. We have triple filtering with activated charcoal and sand for our lake water. Some of the best tasting water is from a Culligan home water filter system using tap water.** It costs a lot of money and fuel to manufacture and deliver all those bottles and then to transport them for recycling.**There must be trillions of those plastic bottles out there buried in the dumps all around the country*, *but Barry2 is worried about using a little Roundup in his garden. They have a ban on plastic bags in S.F. - plastic bottles will probably be next on the list. Go figure.* * I love, love, love, love bottled water. According to what I've read, it's mostly tap water. So, what do you do with the empty bottles? Apparently it takes 1000 years to break down the plastic. Go figure. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
The Internet is a highway and SHOULD BE in the commons. It should have NEVER been a gold mine for the greedy telecommunications companies. If they shut down our open access and regulate what we can get then those of us who know technology will start a alternate network even if it is illegal. So let's avoid that step. On 05/06/2014 11:56 AM, raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: Back on topic: Call or email your Congress Critters to save Net Neutrality. IF you don't stand up RIGHT NOW and fight for a free and open internet, don't let me hear you complain when it's gone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
On 05/06/2014 10:45 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: On 5/6/2014 10:14 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I love, love, love, love bottled water. According to what I've read, it's mostly tap water. So, what do you do with the empty bottles? Apparently it takes 1000 years to break down the plastic. Go figure. Depends on what you buy. I get the reverse osmosis purified water. I used to get the steam distilled but that is not so much available anymore. The supermarket sells 33 oz bottles which I prefer over the smaller 24 oz which tend to get underfoot. You also pay less CRV that way too per case. Bottled water is a big business in California where you can't always trust city water supplies. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
Not to mention that the aquifer under Texas is about to dry up do to
overuse so California isn't the only place facing a drought but ours
looks like it will be for this year only because an El Nino is coming
this fall. No wonder Richard wants to move.
On 05/06/2014 11:06 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
As usual you are a complete idiot. And you listen to the bullshit
claims of advertising that tout not bottled water, bt...
filtered water. What you and a lot of other bottled water opponents
don't realize is the campaign against bottled water was started some
years ago by the companies that own Brita, Pur and other water
filtration systems.
All those bs ads about how the waters are filtered tap water and all
the other claims against them can easily be debunked. First, some, not
all waters are filtered tap water, such as Dasani and Aquafina. They
clearly state on the bottles that this is the source. Its not like the
companies are trying to hide the fact. I drink a brand called
Springtime which comes from the Crystalline Piedmont Rock Aquifer from
an artesian well in Appling Georgia - they still filter it to make
sure its up to their standards.
And the companies that squall so loudly about others who market
filtered tap water? What do they want yo you to do? They want you to
use Brita, Pur, Zero and other brands of filter pitchers or tap
filters. And what do you get if you use these filtration systems?
Filtered tap water. As you love to say, go figger.
The idea also that the bottles empty water bottles are gonna pile up
till they take over the earth is ignoring the fact that they are
RECYCLABLE and can be reused or turned into something else. I recycle
mine.
The city water here in Newberry is so full o chlorine and the Pur and
Britas just don't do the job well enough for me to drink and cook with
what I get from the tap. Besides, I went to high school with a guy who
went to work at the local water treatment plant and he started
drinking bottled water immediately after he started working there. He
would never say way beyond If you saw what we put in the water to
purify it... and then he'd shake his head.
And if all the companies and environmental messages that come out in
these ads are sooo concerned with carbon footprinting and how much
oil is being used to make the bottles and the idea the bottles stay
around forever are telling the truth and they are sooo concerned
about Mother Earth why aren't they taking the soft drink
manufacturers, the bottled juice makers and the milk producers for
doing the same damn thing? I guarantee you there are far more plastic
bottles being made to enclose Pepsi, Coke, Dr. Pepper, Sprite and on
and on, not to mention the RC Colas you are drinking everyday Richey,
then those that are made for the bottled water trade.
So yeah, I am gonna go have me a pint right now and enjoy it immensely.
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On Tue, 5/6/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 5:45 PM
On 5/6/2014 10:14 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
I love, love, love, love bottled water.
According to what I've read, it's mostly tap water.
So, what do you do
with the empty bottles? Apparently it takes 1000 years to
break down the
plastic. Go figure.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
I'm not sure we should avoid it. The New Net would be better, safer, faster, and would be available to those of us who can find it within days of a shutdown of a free Internet by either the Guvmints or the Kleptocracies. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead The Internet is a highway and SHOULD BE in the commons. It should have NEVER been a gold mine for the greedy telecommunications companies. If they shut down our open access and regulate what we can get then those of us who know technology will start a alternate network even if it is illegal. So let's avoid that step. On 05/06/2014 11:56 AM, raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: Back on topic: Call or email your Congress Critters to save Net Neutrality. IF you don't stand up RIGHT NOW and fight for a free and open internet, don't let me hear you complain when it's gone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality
On 5/6/2014 1:28 PM, raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote: virtually the entire U.S. news media has cooperated in the effort to play down the neo-Nazi role, Apparently Ukraine, Belgium and Holland and other European countries are rife with neo-Nazi skin-heads. According to Robert Parry, the mainstream U.S. news media is flooding the American people with one-sided propaganda on Ukraine, rewriting the narrative to leave out the key role of neo-Nazis. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
Such regulation is the end of the US and the beginning of Panem
On Tue, 5/6/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 7:46 PM
The
Internet is a highway and SHOULD BE
in the commons. It should have NEVER been a gold
mine for the
greedy telecommunications companies. If they shut
down our open
access and regulate what we can get then those of us
who know
technology will start a alternate network even if it
is illegal.
So let's avoid that step.
On 05/06/2014 11:56 AM, raunchy...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Back on topic: Call or email your Congress
Critters to
save Net Neutrality. IF you don't
stand up RIGHT
NOW and fight for a free and open
internet, don't let
me hear you complain when it's
gone.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality
Yes, and we also notice that Nabby and Buck are strangely silent since they
first foolishly and erroneously claimed the events in Crimea, Ukraine and other
former Soviet areas were happening because of all the yogic flyers and purusha
in the area. I believe Nabby referred to the events happening as part of
Marshy's great plan. Some plan. Jai Guru Stupidity and Belief in Fake Gurus.
On Tue, 5/6/14, raunchy...@yahoo.com raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 6:28 PM
Since February, virtually the entire
U.S. news media has cooperated in
the effort to play down the neo-Nazi role, dismissing any
mention of
this inconvenient truth as “Russian propaganda.” Stories
in the U.S.
media delicately step around the neo-Nazi reality by keeping
out
relevant context, such as the background of national
security chief
Andriy Parubiy, who founded the Social-National Party of
Ukraine in
1991, blending radical Ukrainian nationalism with neo-Nazi
symbols.
Parubiy was commandant of the Maidan’s
'self-defense forces.'Ukraine’s
‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality | Consortiumnews
Ukraine’s
‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality | Consortiumnews
Exclusive:
The horrendous fire in Odessa, killing dozens of ethnic
Russians protesting against the U.S.-backed coup regime in
Kiev, has lurched the country closer t...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin [1 Attachment]
On 5/6/2014 2:55 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Not to mention that the aquifer under Texas is about to dry up do to overuse so California isn't the only place facing a drought but ours looks like it will be for this year only because an El Nino is coming this fall. No wonder Richard wants to move. There is plenty of water from melted snow up in Denver and around Lake Granby in Colorado. Lake Granby --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
Again, you are a mis-informed idiot. I take my recyclables to my daughter's
house - the county they live in has curbside recycling pick-up that includes
plastic bottles.
On Tue, 5/6/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:
According to my sources, there is no plastic recycling
plant in
Newberry, S.C. Why don't you just get a bucket full
of water from
Lake Murray?
http://www.recyclerfinder.com/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead
Well, now, that would be a great big fat lie, wouldn't it? And everyone here knows it. He very well might. But if you've noticed, he's not the only person telling others what they can post and what they can't and trying to intimidate them, is he? The person berating him in this post is doing the same thing, and has done it more than any other person on this forum. From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raising Net Neutrality from the Dead Sounds like Buck might condone censorship of some kind. On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 10:55 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Metabolic typing made easy
noozguru, now if only algae was good for your metabolic type (-: On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 11:03 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I did the original metabolic typing program back in 1981. You had to fill out a book of questions plus get blood panel and urine test. I came out like a functioning type A with a type B subtype. After about six months I was retested and was functioning as a type B (carb type). There was a bunch of TM folks in the Seattle doing the program and it is now run by a former TM center chairman. This was all before MAPI was around. I couldn't afford all the supplements but came across an ad for Dr. George Watson's second book and testing kit. I used those vitamins through the 1990s and still have the testing kit. The company that sold the vitamins stopped making them and I get similar supplements from other sources. On 05/05/2014 05:37 PM, Share Long wrote: thanks, noozguru, short test and I also like the names for the different types. I turned out to be a C type. I crave both sweet and salty. Helpful to know that I should be eating 33% of fat, protein and carbs. On Monday, May 5, 2014 11:05 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Every so once in a while I search on the Internet for more articles and information on metabolic typing which is sort of a modern day body type system along the lines of ayurveda or Chinese medicine. It is often complicated and difficult to explain and practitioners often are looking for better and simpler ways for the public to discover their functioning body type. Here's Dr. Oz's good attempt at it. It's a simple quiz and there are also some videos and menu articles available there: http://www.doctoroz.com/quiz/quiz-what-your-metabolism-type
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ukraine’s ‘Dr. Strangelove’ Reality
On 5/6/2014 3:06 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Yes, and we also notice that Nabby and Buck are strangely silent since they first foolishly and erroneously claimed the events in Crimea, Ukraine and other former Soviet areas were happening because of all the yogic flyers and purusha in the area. We also notice that MJ is strangely silent about events over in places like North Korea and Cambodia. How's that Chinese communist Kung Fu coming along? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One last set of thoughts for Curtis
Again, I offer this ACTUAL SCIENCE as an approach to discovering the genesis of orderliness. It does not seem to be true that randomness and entropy are the Sword of Damocles they are made out to be. It seems the core dynamic of creation is DIRECTLY OPPOSITE of that -- it seems that there's a positively measurable NATURAL FORCE that orders creation at AN ASTOUNDINGLY SUBTLE LEVEL. Edg Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water'... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo Dr. Gerald Pollack, UW professor of bioengineering, has developed a theory of water that has been called revolutionary. The researcher has spent the past dec... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
On 5/6/2014 3:10 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Again, you are a mis-informed idiot. I take my recyclables to my daughter's house - the county they live in has curbside recycling pick-up that includes plastic bottles. They may pick up the bottles at your daughter's house, but they don't have a recycle plant in Newberry, SC. On Tue, 5/6/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: According to my sources, there is no plastic recycling plant in Newberry, S.C. Why don't you just get a bucket full of water from Lake Murray? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
The irony is that, from a Chinese perspective, TM is a form of qi-qong. It's pretty much the generic term for mental spiritual practice, aka meditation in English. Of course, it also includes practices that involve movement, breathing exercises,etc. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/6/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: my spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks who are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist and stop raght naow! So, you've quit the China chi-chong practice? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One last set of thoughts for Curtis
You should read up on Boltzmann's Brains. It is an extreme example of how an infinite (not just our 18 billion lightyear wide local bubble) could give rise spontaneously [randomly] to brains in space that have memories of a universe just like ours and think that they're IN such a universe for the brief instant that they exist before expiring or otherwise going away (Random Quantum Fluctuations giveth and Random Quantum Fluctuations taketh away). Boltzmann claimed that random fluctuations were more likely to create s single such self-deluded brain than they were to create an entire universe such as ours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Again, I offer this ACTUAL SCIENCE as an approach to discovering the genesis of orderliness. It does not seem to be true that randomness and entropy are the Sword of Damocles they are made out to be. It seems the core dynamic of creation is DIRECTLY OPPOSITE of that -- it seems that there's a positively measurable NATURAL FORCE that orders creation at AN ASTOUNDINGLY SUBTLE LEVEL. Edg Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water's Edge https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo Water, Energy, and Life: Fresh Views From the Water'... https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo Dr. Gerald Pollack, UW professor of bioengineering, has developed a theory of water that has been called revolutionary. The researcher has spent the past dec... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedamp;v=XVBEwn6iWOo Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Spam, Spammers and Spamming the FFL list
Sure seems like it was dropped in here like some spam to dilute out the flow of the interest of this list here. Yes, on FairfieldLIfe most any topic goes related to the interest of seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. This post coming without any attempt at context related to Fairfieldlife clearly did not seem to relate to anything here, just like spam. On Fairfieldlife we often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement. Discussions also draw from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc. Yes we all have delete keys, however towards the higher levels of our subject integrity on this Fairfieldlife list we do keep moderators on hand to guard and protect us as a community from spammers. We all should be on guard to report spam like that post to the Moderation here to keep track of. Thank you for your concern, -Buck authfriend writes: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: Tom.Wheeler@... Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: Mignon.Clyburn@... Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: Jessica.Rosenworcel@... Commissioner Ajit Pai: Ajit.Pai@... Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’Rielly@... To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/ http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/ Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding -
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris
Rick, I am glad the interviews are gaining a wider audience. I think they deserve that. I chuckled to myself though as I read your preparations for the interview. The thought that popped into my head was, Does he think he is interviewing God? I'm just a crazy SOB. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of steve.sundur@... Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:57 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris Jesus Christ, Rick, are you going to propose marriage to the guy, or just interview him! Well, he and I are both married, not gay, and there’s a big age difference, so that would probably be hard to arrange. But hey, stranger things have happened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : I’m going to read all of his books before even inviting him, and take notes as I go along, which I’ll share and discuss with you. Then I’ll carefully compose an invitation letter, which I’ll bounce off you also. So it may even be a year before the interview happens, if he agrees to one. But I would want it to be one that really did justice to the guy. From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues@... Sent: Saturday, May 3, 2014 8:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Note to Rick Conderning his interview with Sam Harris Hey Rick, If you follow the threads from Lawson about Sam Harris you will gain some insight into Harris' world. In most debates and interviews he has to spend most of this time sorting out the misunderstandings about his position caused by people quoting people misrepresenting his ideas rather than his actual points in his books. Richard even posted a attribution to his book under statements from other people misrepresenting his positions, and this is very common all over the internet. If you get a chance to interview him your ability to state his actual points will be a huge rapport builder. And this seems like just an obvious point for any interview but controversial guys like him are more prone to people misrepresenting their ideas to make them look bad so he is extra touchy about this. Just focusing on his actual points that can be challenged for good reasons will make your interview a breath of fresh air for him I am sure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
First of all and I say these things with respect to you Lawson because although
you and I have traded words and ideas ever since the Cardio Brief event, I
sense that you are not a complete ass like WillyTex and that you are seeking
some good thing in life. I don't know if you were kidding around when you said
in another post that you were OCD but if so I sympathize if you are.
To begin with, Richard is an idiot who is either a person who gets off on
trying to upset folks through deliberately acting like he misunderstands what
they are saying or he has serious information processing issues. I have not
stopped chi gung.
And the idea that to Chinese people TM is a form of chi gung is nonsense unless
the Chinese people are fanatic TM'ers who have been brainwashed by the likes of
David Lynch or Bob Roth.
On Tue, 5/6/14, lengli...@cox.net lengli...@cox.net wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking
Repentance Spiritually
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 11:36 PM
The irony is that, from a Chinese perspective, TM
is a form of qi-qong. It's pretty much the generic term
for mental spiritual practice, aka
meditation in English. Of course, it also
includes practices that involve movement, breathing
exercises,etc.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
punditster@... wrote :
On
5/6/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
my
spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks
who
are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist
and stop raght naow!
So, you've quit the China chi-chong
practice? Go figure.
---
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spam, Spammers and Spamming the FFL list
Not all groups need to be open to everyone. Not every person needs to belong to every group. Groups have a right to protect themselves for the benefit of their membership. As we come together in this community group it is fine that we do not let spammers on to FFL as a moderation policy. Sincerely, -Buck Sure seems like it was dropped in here like some spam to dilute out the flow of the interest of this list here. Yes, on FairfieldLIfe most any topic goes related to the interest of seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. This post coming without any attempt at context related to Fairfieldlife clearly did not seem to relate to anything here, just like spam. On Fairfieldlife we often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement. Discussions also draw from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc. Yes we all have delete keys, however towards the higher levels of our subject integrity on this Fairfieldlife list we do keep moderators on hand to guard and protect us as a community from spammers. We all should be on guard to report spam like that post to the Moderation here to keep track of. Thank you for your concern, -Buck authfriend writes: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: Tom.Wheeler@... Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: Mignon.Clyburn@... Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: Jessica.Rosenworcel@... Commissioner Ajit Pai: Ajit.Pai@... Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’Rielly@... To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/ http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/ Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does
Re: [FairfieldLife] Wise President Putin
algae in a municipal water supply? with an odor? that sounds strange. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I'm about to go back to drinking it for a while because the city water has algae in it which they claim is harmless but stinks. I have a refer with a filter for water which helps but doesn't get rid of the algae that well. When I was at a movie last year they told me the drinks might smell because of the algae in the water. I was surprised that the pop machines didn't have a filter on they line. I seem to recall they used too. Maybe they do but it can't get rid of the algae. On 05/06/2014 08:14 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I love, love, love, love bottled water.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
David Lynch and Bob Roth, brainwashers extraordinaire... OhKy... Now for the rest, you DO realize that the Chinese government frowns on certain groups that incorporate qigong and has outlawed several groups because they are a threat to the state? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhong_Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falon_Gong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falon_Gong MUM, on the other hand, has formal academic relations with universities in China, including student exchange agreements, including Beijing Union University. http://www.mum.edu/default.aspx?RelID=651046issearch=chinese http://www.mum.edu/default.aspx?RelID=651046issearch=chinese http://english.buu.edu.cn/col/col13109/index.html http://english.buu.edu.cn/col/col13109/index.html L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : First of all and I say these things with respect to you Lawson because although you and I have traded words and ideas ever since the Cardio Brief event, I sense that you are not a complete ass like WillyTex and that you are seeking some good thing in life. I don't know if you were kidding around when you said in another post that you were OCD but if so I sympathize if you are. To begin with, Richard is an idiot who is either a person who gets off on trying to upset folks through deliberately acting like he misunderstands what they are saying or he has serious information processing issues. I have not stopped chi gung. And the idea that to Chinese people TM is a form of chi gung is nonsense unless the Chinese people are fanatic TM'ers who have been brainwashed by the likes of David Lynch or Bob Roth. On Tue, 5/6/14, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 6, 2014, 11:36 PM The irony is that, from a Chinese perspective, TM is a form of qi-qong. It's pretty much the generic term for mental spiritual practice, aka meditation in English. Of course, it also includes practices that involve movement, breathing exercises,etc. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/6/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: my spiritual practice at this time consist of encouraging folks who are doing TM and TMSP to immediately cease and desist and stop raght naow! So, you've quit the China chi-chong practice? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spam, Spammers and Spamming the FFL list
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Spam, Spammers and Spamming the FFL list
Buckster, Richard is rubbing off on you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Not all groups need to be open to everyone. Not every person needs to belong to every group. Groups have a right to protect themselves for the benefit of their membership. As we come together in this community group it is fine that we do not let spammers on to FFL as a moderation policy. Sincerely, -Buck Sure seems like it was dropped in here like some spam to dilute out the flow of the interest of this list here. Yes, on FairfieldLIfe most any topic goes related to the interest of seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. This post coming without any attempt at context related to Fairfieldlife clearly did not seem to relate to anything here, just like spam. On Fairfieldlife we often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement. Discussions also draw from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc. Yes we all have delete keys, however towards the higher levels of our subject integrity on this Fairfieldlife list we do keep moderators on hand to guard and protect us as a community from spammers. We all should be on guard to report spam like that post to the Moderation here to keep track of. Thank you for your concern, -Buck authfriend writes: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff: I sent an email to the FCC chairman expressing my concern about losing net neutrality. I have to give him kudos for responding - though I am not naive enough to think he sent a personal response... or that he had anything to do with sending the response. I AM concerned that this means that there are very few people actually contacting the FCC about this issue. There is very little that is more sacred to a robust democratic society than the free exchange of ideas and information. In the US today, our broadcast and print news media is owned by a mere handful of people. This, in and of itself, is wrong. Please do not compound that error by giving another handful of people the means by which to stifle communications and creativity through control of the internet. Strong voices for good are not always well funded and those who need to hear words of encouragement and knowledge most are seldom those with the means to pay to find them. Public schools and libraries are underfunded in much of the country and these are the access points for many people who do not have any other means to access the internet. Putting content behind corporate pay-walls will further erode the ability of these institutions to meet the needs of those people. In rural areas where we continue to fight to provide even the most basic access to the internet, allowing corporate entities to provide faster access to those who can pay more means many of those who cannot pay more simply cannot access content at all. This is not a free market issue. Further, the FCC is not supposed to be an advocate for corporate entities, but for the people of our country. There is nothing good to be gained by taking this action. It will not increase jobs, it will not increase access to information so people might create their own jobs, it will not promote economic growth. All it will do is decrease access to internet content for a great deal of our population, decrease competition, siphon more money from the poorer to the richer, and one more foundation of our democratic society will have been demolished. How to bring net neutrality back from the dead by Cannonfire: Contact the Commissioners via E-mail Chairman Tom Wheeler: Tom.Wheeler@... Commissioner Mignon Clyburn: Mignon.Clyburn@... Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel: Jessica.Rosenworcel@... Commissioner Ajit Pai: Ajit.Pai@... Commissioner Michael O’Rielly: Mike.O’Rielly@... To call and contact commissioner’s offices, call 1-888-225-5322. In addition, call your elected representatives. Tell them if net neutrality is ended, you will hold them accountable by withholding your vote. Both parties hope to control the senate after the mid-term elections, so you have more power than usual to let them know they are losing your vote if they fail to take action to stop the FCC proposal. The number for Congress is 202-224-3121. There's also a petition. http://www.popularresistance.org/internet-for-the-wealthy/
[FairfieldLife] Spiritual Perfection -ism
I am using the word perfection, knowing that the word perfection is very much doubted on scientific ground. Perfection, scientists are afraid of talking about. But I am using the word perfection on the basis of the simple practicality of perfection in the life of everyone. I am emphasizing and making clear what I mean by perfection. I'll explain this perfection possibility open to everyone by an example of the sap in the tree. The gardener waters the root, it supplies nourishment to the root, it supplies nourishment to the sap, it enlivens the sap, and the lively sap makes every expression of it brighter. Green becomes brighter, red flowers become brighter, everything becomes better and better if the sap is lively. Like the sap in the tree, Atma or consciousness has a place in the life of anyone. The physiology is made of reverberating structures of consciousness. Professor Nader's research in physiology has already explained that it is now possible for the total value of life to be enlivened within each individual through the practice of Transcendental Meditation and the Vedic sound reverberations, the Vedic texts recited. You can enliven the whole body, the whole physiology. There is huge philosophical evidence from the Vedic Literature, and practical evidence from the research into the physiology by all disciplines of modern science. It's a very great upsurge of Total Knowledge on the level of principle, and also on the level of the practicality of those principles. In modern science, in order to materialize a theory, a scientist is needed. Listen to this carefully. In modern science, for a theory to be materialized, a scientist needs to put the theory to practice. In the Vedic world, in Vedic knowledge, in Vedic science, the scientist himself is the embodiment of the theory, is the embodiment of the principles, because it is self-referral in its own quality. From within itself it is Total Knowledge, it is total power, it is total activity. This is Vedic speech, Vedic reverberations, Vedic sound. Vedic sounds themselves operate. And this has given a completely new approach to perfect health. Perfect health means perfection in every field for everyone on earth. This perfection is being declared today at this time of inaugurating the Fourth Year of Global Administration. It's very fortunate for the whole world, for all times in the future, that we have established a program. And fortunately with the help of their computer science, the communication level of perfection of today's life will take it to every home, to every individual. Everyone is invited. I am emphasizing today a new voice after these 50 years of teaching Transcendental Meditation in the world, a voice which can bring perfection to every individual.” From Maharishi's inaugural address on January 12, 2000.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 7:24 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I sense that you are not a complete ass like WillyTex So, it's all about WillyTex. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spam, Spammers and Spamming the FFL list
You're full of it, Buck. You don't even seem to know what spam is. FFLers post things like it all the time here, on a range of different subjects. Net neutrality is a big issue for folks who use the Internet; it's not as if it had never been mentioned or discussed here before. Ask Bhairitu. And as I said, you know who raunchydog is--she isn't some stranger who busted in here trying to advertise a product or service. You just felt like throwing your weight around without any good reason. Sure seems like it was dropped in here like some spam to dilute out the flow of the interest of this list here. Yes, on FairfieldLIfe most any topic goes related to the interest of seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. This post coming without any attempt at context related to Fairfieldlife clearly did not seem to relate to anything here, just like spam. On Fairfieldlife we often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement. Discussions also draw from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc. Yes we all have delete keys, however towards the higher levels of our subject integrity on this Fairfieldlife list we do keep moderators on hand to guard and protect us as a community from spammers. We all should be on guard to report spam like that post to the Moderation here to keep track of. Thank you for your concern, -Buck authfriend writes: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff:
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 7:24 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Richard is an idiot who is either a person who gets off on trying to upset folks through deliberately acting like he misunderstands what they are saying or he has serious information processing issues. So, */you compared MMY to Adolph Hitler/* /to get off on trying to upset folks/, but Richard is the idiot or has serious information issues? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spam, Spammers and Spamming the FFL list
This wasn't spam, and raunchydog is not a spammer. Alex gets rid of actual spammers in short order. You're just being a jerk. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Not all groups need to be open to everyone. Not every person needs to belong to every group. Groups have a right to protect themselves for the benefit of their membership. As we come together in this community group it is fine that we do not let spammers on to FFL as a moderation policy. Sincerely, -Buck Sure seems like it was dropped in here like some spam to dilute out the flow of the interest of this list here. Yes, on FairfieldLIfe most any topic goes related to the interest of seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere. This post coming without any attempt at context related to Fairfieldlife clearly did not seem to relate to anything here, just like spam. On Fairfieldlife we often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement. Discussions also draw from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc. Yes we all have delete keys, however towards the higher levels of our subject integrity on this Fairfieldlife list we do keep moderators on hand to guard and protect us as a community from spammers. We all should be on guard to report spam like that post to the Moderation here to keep track of. Thank you for your concern, -Buck authfriend writes: GET OFF IT, BUCK. You know who raunchy is; you know it isn't spam; and you know we're free to post anything here that others may find of interest, and that most certainly includes net neutrality Stop trying to intimidate would-be posters who don't know any better into thinking they can only post spiritual stuff. Is this drive-by Spam? What exactly does this have to do with the Spiritual Regeneration and FairfieldLife? -Buck raunchydog@... wrote : Email to Tom.Wheeler@... supporting net neutrality by Sandy Dockendorff:
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 7:24 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I have not stopped chi gung. Who said you stopped practicing Chinese communist Kung Fu? Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 7:24 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: And the idea that to Chinese people TM is a form of chi gung is nonsense unless the Chinese people are fanatic TM'ers who have been brainwashed by the likes of David Lynch or Bob Roth. It is unlawful to practice sitting meditation in public in China - only communist sanctioned chi kung is permitted. Thousands of people of all ages have been arrested and jailed in China for public demonstrations of Falun Gong. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
There is no way to be certain about anything, when science is involved. Currently, TM is the only form of meditation that the American Heart Association recommends in the treatment of high blood pressure due to lack of consistent and/or good quality research on other forms of meditation. The AHA recently revised their statement on alternative treatments for hypertension, but they left the section on meditation alone, despite there being 250 new studies on mindfulness meditation published in the 12 months between the first and second versions of the statement. In other words, this is still the formal stance of teh American Heart association: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/04/22/HYP.0b013e318293645f.full.pdf http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/04/22/HYP.0b013e318293645f.full.pdf Summary and Clinical Recommendations The overall evidence supports that TM modestly lowers BP. It is not certain whether it is truly superior to other medita- tion techniques in terms of BP lowering because there are few head-to-head studies. As a result of the paucity of data, we are unable to recommend a specific method of practice when TM is used for the treatment of high BP. However, TM (or meditation techniques in general) does not appear to pose significant health risks.32 Additional and higher-quality studies are required to provide conclusions on the BP-lowering efficacy of meditation forms other than TM. The writing group conferred to TM a Class IIB, Level of Evidence B recommendation in regard to BP-lowering efficacy. TM may be considered in clinical practice to lower BP. Because of many negative studies or mixed results and a paucity of available trials, all other meditation techniques (including MBSR) received a Class III, no benefit, Level of Evidence C recommendation. Thus, other meditation techniques are not recommended in clinical practice to lower BP at this time. . As Dr Brook told me in email, that passage should be fairly clear. A lot of people jump on the phrase, As a result of the paucity of data, we are unable to recommend a specific method of practice when TM is used for the treatment of high BP, but in an exchange of letters to the editor, between Robert Schneider and lead author Robert Brook, Dr Brook, speaking ex cathedra, explained that it was merely that they didn't know if one mantra might be more effective than another, or something along those lines. The statement also said, It is not certain whether it is truly superior to other medita- tion techniques in terms of BP lowering because there are few head-to-head studies, but last night I asked Dr Schneider and Dr Brook about plans for head-to-head studies at their presentation (via online comment). You can see the response at about 1:19 ... Q: Is there any plans for a head-to-head comparison of TM and mindfulness? A: In terms of comparing different mind-body interventions, sure that's quite possible -just a matter of organizing the funding and support. (Dr. Schneider) A: If the caller would send in the money, I'd be happy to do the research (Dr Brook) http://new.livestream.com/mum/brook https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=789265884419755set=a.305343426145339.82683.297598653586483type=1theater The American Heart Association was convinced in April of 2013 that TM is the only meditation practice with sufficiently good and consistent research to allow them to recommend it for clinical practice in the treatment of hypertension -that is, to be recommended by doctors to their patients. And 12 months later, after 250 new studies on mindfulness were published, they still maintain that as their formal stance. And so, at least in terms of the effects of TM on hypertension, there's evidence that TM is of value above all other forms of meditation. And the number of people who continue to practice TM depends on how obvious the benefits they gain are. People who are in high-stress situations are more likely to notice that TM has a good effect than people who are in low-stress situations, and that is one reason why people might stop doing it. Certainly, for those who voluntarily continue its practice, research shows that there is an open-ended (thus far) long-term accumulative effect with respect to how the EEG outside of meditation starts to resemble teh EEG during meditation. This is something that any practice of any kind should show, so it isn't rocket-science to assume that it applies to everyone who does TM, whether or not they notice effects. One thought for you: hypertension is sometimes called a silent killer because most people are unable to tell when their blood pressure is in the normal range or a dangerously elevated (in the long term) range and so, if TM has lowered their blood pressure, it is impossible for them to tell, simply on that measure, if TM has been beneficial for them
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ending the Use of Dirty Fuels, Years of Living Dangerously...global warming
Climate impacts 'overwhelming' Climate impacts 'overwhelming' - UN http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26810559 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26810559 Climate impacts 'overwhelming' - UN http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26810559 Global warming is likely to have a severe, pervasive and irreversible impact, a major UN report warns. View on www.bbc.com http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26810559 Preview by Yahoo Increasingly disruptive' across US - report http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27296417 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27296417 Climate Change Already Having Broad Impact http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/06/310021768/new-report-finds-climate-change-already-having-broad-impact http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/05/06/310021768/new-report-finds-climate-change-already-having-broad-impact As an immediate start everyone should be spending no less that a third of their 24 hour day in restful alertness in quiet time meditation. Four hours in the morning, four hours in the afternoon. This becomes critical in the remediation of the atmosphere and climate on a crowded planet now. Maharishi: It can be. Vernon: But in this age where there is so much stress and tension? Maharishi: For one thing, there could be a national policy to have an hour's silence morning and evening. An hour of silence. All the busses, all the trains, everything stops. No movement. Aeroplanes don't take off. And then a national calm hour, morning and evening for the whole country. … It could be put on an automatic basis -some automatic timing devices. Everything should be purposely put off, everything stopped. And then the workers don't go to the factory at seven o;clock -only at nine o'clock, ten o'clock. They should have some life at home -in the freshness of the mornings. p-377-8 Conversations with Maharishi, Vol I. Vernon Katz MUM Press 2001 At home, in the workplace, at school. Meditating A third of a day everyday for everyone now. The world would be so much a better place for everyone in so many ways if people everywhere would just stop to take quiet time meditation. People spending more quiet time, spent in effective spiritual practice, is really the only antidote. We simply must break the materialism of the world now. -Buck in the Dome !Picturing Armageddon! http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27232523 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27232523 To really mediate this, we need much better public school education using and teaching all that is scientific towards a more invincible future. Like taking more quiet time employing effective transcending meditation into the educational design of our schools, employing quiet time meditation in to our workplaces, and taking meditation in to our homes and home-life. -Buck We need a revolution in the spiritual outlook of humanity right now. This is about public education. An Entrenched Materialism of our vast human race is the problem at core. The problem is fundamentally spiritual. We Must, End the Use of Dirty Fuels, Now. .. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27008352 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-27008352 The problem is way too beyond just sustainability. We are talking survival. As a species. It is quite time for a change. Radical change. -Buck in the Dome The World Simply Must End the Use of Dirty Fuels, Rampant Materialism, Hyper-Industrial Production and the Over-consumption of the consumer economies of the world at too high a level by too many people to be sustainable is the problem. sharelong60 writes: What does the Syrian war, destruction of Indonesian parks and Texas have in common? The premiere of a new Showtime series, Years of Living Dangerously, unexpectedly on global warming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brvhCnYvxQQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brvhCnYvxQQ Its 1 hour. . Om Shanti . . . .
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 7:30 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: had I not given in to the brainwashing the TMO does on TM'ers. You make it sound like someone coerced you into practicing TM. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
On 5/6/2014 6:26 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote: What is frightening is that, as far as I can tell, you are serious through and through. Serious enough to get up at 5:00 AM in the morning and start posting to FFL the same message over and over again all day and on Saturday nights until midnight. You DO realize that you are setting yourself up for disappointment every bit as severe as occurred when you realized that Maharishi wasn't absolutely perfect, if it should turn out that TM is of value above and beyond other meditation practices, at least for some people? How will you handle things at that point? He will probably quit the FFL discussion group. On average, people like MJ only work as informants for two years. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spam, Spammers and Spamming the FFL list
On 5/6/2014 8:23 PM, emilymae...@yahoo.com wrote: Buckster, Richard is rubbing off on you. So, it's all about Buck and Richard. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Great oppurtunity for rethinking Repentance Spiritually
I seem to remember they said it wasn't as effective as exercise or just squeezing a rubber ball for half an hour a day. What is it with you cultists, do you want to help people or not? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : There is no way to be certain about anything, when science is involved. Currently, TM is the only form of meditation that the American Heart Association recommends in the treatment of high blood pressure due to lack of consistent and/or good quality research on other forms of meditation. The AHA recently revised their statement on alternative treatments for hypertension, but they left the section on meditation alone, despite there being 250 new studies on mindfulness meditation published in the 12 months between the first and second versions of the statement. In other words, this is still the formal stance of teh American Heart association: http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/04/22/HYP.0b013e318293645f.full.pdf http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/early/2013/04/22/HYP.0b013e318293645f.full.pdf Summary and Clinical Recommendations The overall evidence supports that TM modestly lowers BP. It is not certain whether it is truly superior to other medita- tion techniques in terms of BP lowering because there are few head-to-head studies. As a result of the paucity of data, we are unable to recommend a specific method of practice when TM is used for the treatment of high BP. However, TM (or meditation techniques in general) does not appear to pose significant health risks.32 Additional and higher-quality studies are required to provide conclusions on the BP-lowering efficacy of meditation forms other than TM. The writing group conferred to TM a Class IIB, Level of Evidence B recommendation in regard to BP-lowering efficacy. TM may be considered in clinical practice to lower BP. Because of many negative studies or mixed results and a paucity of available trials, all other meditation techniques (including MBSR) received a Class III, no benefit, Level of Evidence C recommendation. Thus, other meditation techniques are not recommended in clinical practice to lower BP at this time. . As Dr Brook told me in email, that passage should be fairly clear. A lot of people jump on the phrase, As a result of the paucity of data, we are unable to recommend a specific method of practice when TM is used for the treatment of high BP, but in an exchange of letters to the editor, between Robert Schneider and lead author Robert Brook, Dr Brook, speaking ex cathedra, explained that it was merely that they didn't know if one mantra might be more effective than another, or something along those lines. The statement also said, It is not certain whether it is truly superior to other medita- tion techniques in terms of BP lowering because there are few head-to-head studies, but last night I asked Dr Schneider and Dr Brook about plans for head-to-head studies at their presentation (via online comment). You can see the response at about 1:19 ... Q: Is there any plans for a head-to-head comparison of TM and mindfulness? A: In terms of comparing different mind-body interventions, sure that's quite possible -just a matter of organizing the funding and support. (Dr. Schneider) A: If the caller would send in the money, I'd be happy to do the research (Dr Brook) http://new.livestream.com/mum/brook https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=789265884419755set=a.305343426145339.82683.297598653586483type=1theater The American Heart Association was convinced in April of 2013 that TM is the only meditation practice with sufficiently good and consistent research to allow them to recommend it for clinical practice in the treatment of hypertension -that is, to be recommended by doctors to their patients. And 12 months later, after 250 new studies on mindfulness were published, they still maintain that as their formal stance. And so, at least in terms of the effects of TM on hypertension, there's evidence that TM is of value above all other forms of meditation. And the number of people who continue to practice TM depends on how obvious the benefits they gain are. People who are in high-stress situations are more likely to notice that TM has a good effect than people who are in low-stress situations, and that is one reason why people might stop doing it. Certainly, for those who voluntarily continue its practice, research shows that there is an open-ended (thus far) long-term accumulative effect with respect to how the EEG outside of meditation starts to resemble teh EEG during meditation. This is something that any practice of any kind should show, so it isn't rocket-science to assume that it applies to everyone who does TM, whether or not they notice effects. One thought for you: hypertension is sometimes called a silent killer because most people are
