Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : The question is, how do we get to fewer guns? Given the country's history, and the Second Amendment, and the current political situation, it's much, much more complicated than you might think. It'll come down to the will of the people. If the debate really is as polarised as it gets reported over here then I suspect you've got an uphill struggle. Look at the lame excuses people post on here! I can't much believe in the concept of the will of the people when it comes to the United States. The country is simply no longer a participatory democracy. It has one of the lowest voter turnout rates among world democracies, and when people do vote, they don't get what they voted for because of all the corruption and lobbying by corporate interests. Plus, the people are too self-serving and self-involved to ever take the kinds of actions that cause governments to listen to them. No one ever goes on strike unless they're a member of some union that keeps their paychecks coming in while they're on strike. Unlike, say, France, where when the guvmint does something they don't like they just declare a General Strike and *no one* goes to work. The whole country just stops dead -- no trains, no buses, no trucks, no airplanes, nothing. And the country *stays* stopped until the guvmint caves to the will of the people. I simply do not believe this kind of go on strike and miss a few paychecks for the good of *all* of us thinking is even POSSIBLE in the U.S. any more. Polls indicate that the vast majority of the people want something done about the murderous situation they have created in their own streets, but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. So they go out and buy guns of their own and wear them the same way Catholics wear St. Christopher medals, as if the guns were some kind of talisman that was going to protect them. Americans are so stupid that they consider their guns a form of Woo Woo. I can't see people handing over the weapons if they can't be sure the guy on the other side of the tracks has done it too. Guns are so ingrained in your culture people might get anxious at the thought of losing what they see as their right to protect themselves. One of the reasons an armed police force has been resisted over here is that if the average plod was habitually armed all the criminals would be too and then you'll get an arms race on the streets, we know that shooting someone is easy, and the public will clamour for the right to protect themselves too. sooner or later we end up like LA. The lid is kept on it somehow with police armed response units being instantly ready as fights between drug gangs for instance are getting more violent, but shooting on the streets is still a thankfully rare thing over here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : When you refer to the right to bear arms as some obscure amendment, you make yourself look RLY RLY STOOOPID about American history. Oh no. It's OK for you as a Brit not to be well informed about your former colony's post-independence history, but given your ignorance, you're probably better off not trying to make comments about it. Oh, Judy's in a withering mood. Get out of bed on the wrong side? But you're right of course, people who don't know about the bill of whatever's shouldn't be able to work out that more guns means more dead people. It was silly of me to think there might be a simple solution. You really should know what the Bill of Rights is, though. That's pretty basic. I'll do the research immediately. Sort of... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Did you read the entire letter at the link I provided? Obviously. And, er, we don't insist that some obscure amendment to the all powerful constitution trumps peoples right to walk safely down the street. We're talking, first of all, about the Bill of Rights, the first 10 amendments to the Constitution, ratified by the states in 1791. The right to bear arms is the Second Amendment (the First Amendment is freedom of speech and religion), hardly obscure. You might want to brush up a bit on your U.S. history: Oh well, pardon me for not knowing which dumbass amendment is which, all I see is the mess your stupid country has ended up in. Let's place bets on the next gun-toting fruitcake going postal shall we? shall we say within a month? People should start composing the handwringing letters now to save time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights United States Bill of Rights - Wikipedia,
[FairfieldLife] No world peace with meditation!
Value neutral meditation helps killers and traders! A positive message for our times. To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html When stock and bond markets took a dive in late January, hedge-fund manager David Ford kept his cool. View on www.bloomberg.com http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-28/to-make-killing-on-wall-street-start-meditating.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I simply do not believe this kind of go on strike and miss a few paychecks for the good of *all* of us thinking is even POSSIBLE in the U.S. any more. Polls indicate that the vast majority of the people want something done about the murderous situation they have created in their own streets, but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. Is it apathy or fear of changing the all powerful constitution? I saw a chat show interview between the awful Piers Morgan and some right-wing gun nut after the last primary school wipeout and Morgan had to resign after suggesting that gun controls should be tighter. There was enough opposition that the network didn't think anyone would watch him again so they sent him home (we didn't want him back) Do so many want the constitution upheld whatever the cost, or is it that the gun freaks are so vocal they drown out all the common sense? I think that part of it is the attachment people feel for IDEAS and MYTHS. They've been taught to believe in these things so long that they can't conceive of life without them. Just look at the way that TMers persist in believing in the Maharishi Effect, decades after it has been shown to have no real effect at all. Look at the way they persist in believing that Maharishi was enlightened, even though none of them can produce a single quote of him even claiming to be. It's the IDEA that is important for them. Just look at the way even supposed liberals on this forum wave around the phrase the Constitution the same way that Chrisschuns wave around the phrase the Bible, as if they were equally holy, and written by the same author. It's the same with MYTHS and MEMES that people have been taught to believe in. Americans have been raised hearing phrases like We have the highest standard of living in the world and We provide the best education in the world and American medical care is the most advanced in the world so long that they can't even *hear* it when told that all of these are lies. When measured by the Human Development Index, the United States ranks fourth in standard of living, behind Norway, Australia, and the Netherlands. In terms of education, the U.S. ranks 17th. In terms of medical care, it ranks 37th. When it comes to the Bill Of Rights, Americans have their heads even further up their asses. The first amendment is largely a joke, given how much influence is peddled these days by religious fanatics. The second has been perverted to turn America into the Wild West, and so dangerous that tourists from Japan now refuse to visit unless the tour companies provide them with 24/7 bodyguards. The fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh amendments went out the door after 9/11; all that any guvmint official or cop needs to do now to perform previously-unlawful searches and seizures is call someone a terrorist, which is also all they need to do to throw them into a dark hole forever, without trial. How much of a joke the eighth amendment has become was pointed out the other day by a judge who demanded that a defendant recant things she'd said to the press that he didn't like before he'd allow her to be freed on bail. The ninth amendment, so vague that it doesn't really mean anything but that has been interpreted to include such things as the right to privacy is even more a joke in the era of the NSA eavesdropping on everyone's phone calls and emails. And the tenth (States' rights) is the kind of legal loophole that allows retard states like Texas and Georgia to deny minorities the right to vote. The IDEA of the Bill Of Rights is one thing; its actual implementation is quite another. But Americans are so attached to the IDEA that they can't see past it to what is actually going on all around them. In short, if any American really woke up and took a look around them at the differences between the IDEAS and MEMES and MYTHS they'd been taught to believe about their country and what it's really like, they'd probably have to consider moving somewhere else. Oh...wait...they've been taught that THAT is bad, too...just look at the people on this forum who attempt to demonize ex-pats who have done just that. The only sin that seems to be greater and more unforgivable than being an atheist in the minds of many Americans is someone kissing its sorry ass goodbye and moving to a nicer place. I guess that makes me a sinner on at least two levels. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Patriotic Russian cat?
http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
That's right. The world consciousness has changed forever and we, according to Maharishi, are very lucky to have been a witness to the historic transformation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Secretary_of_State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_for_Foreign_and_Commonwealth_Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom and Lord President of the Council http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_President_of_the_Council, both in the UK, do TM. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. It's not that far-fetched to expect more world leaders to learn TM in the future, as the research showing that TM has unique effects, continues to be published. L From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University And why not take a chance on faith, as well. Not religion, but faith. Not hope, but faith. I don't believe in hope. Hope is the beggar. Hope walks through fire and faith leaps over it.” “The Ego tempts us with something we already have.” “It's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass. Your job is not to figure out how it's going to happen for you, but to open the door in your head, and when the door opens in real life, just walk through it. Don't worry if you miss a cue, because there's always doors opening. They keep opening.“ Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University http://www.soderetube.com/watch.php?vid=22ec9164c
[FairfieldLife] Re: Patriotic Russian cat?
Having never observed our cats standing like that, I can only conclude that they were, in fact, secret Russian agents. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote : http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms
[FairfieldLife] Re: Patriotic Russian cat?
That is seriously weird and a trifle unsettling. You can't train cats to do stuff like that can you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patriotic Russian cat?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com That is seriously weird and a trifle unsettling. You can't train cats to do stuff like that can you? Check out this video if you want to see what cats can be trained to do. This one can play Jenga better than I can: Jenga Cat Jenga Cat View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
I feel it is generally true too in context, with the saintly likewise; beware the company you keep, there is a field effect value to consider, spiritually. Yep, is worthwhile to be mindful of that in practice, -Buck in the Dome Fleetwood writes: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change??
[FairfieldLife] Bevan and Sainthood
Bevan? He is different than the other guys around him at that echelon, he seems sort of like an Australian version of Don Corleone. Bevan is a character extremely interesting in the TM story. Maharishi did not designate him 'Guru', everyone else at that level are administrators or 'Raja' though Bevan is 'Prime Minister' over it all. He is clearly the most powerful person and largest elephant in the room. Maharishi used him that way for 40 years. Bevan has presided over all that is TM with Maharishi as Maharishi's confidant and right hand for that long. As such he has also presided over the whole long decline from other times of height of what it once was as Bevan came in to control to some lows of what it is now. So, Bevan is not a 'guru', not an administrator like everyone else, he is Prime Minister, is he a saint? One should go back to the scholarly consideration of that. In what way is he spiritually transforming, or spiritually 'charismatic'? He is teacher-ly and in control but what is his 'field effect' that he carries with him? Fear or charisma on a scale of 'spiritual'? Spiritual-charisma? Defining Charismatic, spiritually: charismatic .. . Weber, in an oft quoted passage, defined charisma as a certain quality of an individual personality, by virtue of which [s/]he is set apart from ordinary [people] and treated as endowed with supernatural, superhuman, or at least specifically exceptional powers or qualities. These are such as are not accessible to the ordinary person, but are regarded as of divine origin or as exemplary, and on the basis of them the individual concerned is treated as a leader. 1 Introduction: “.. .New religions as first-generation religions, whether a new orthodox Christian movement such as eighteenth century Methodism or a new Hindu group built around a recently arrived guru, share many characteristics. During the first generation, the founder, whose new ideas led to the formation of the group, places a definitive stamp upon it. The first members are self-selected because of their initial confidence in the the leader and/or their agreement with the leader's program. The first generation is also a time of experimentation and rapid change. The leader must discover the right elements to combine in a workable program, generate solutions to unexpected obstacles, choose and train capable leaders, and elaborate upon the initial ideas or vision that motivated the founding of the group in order to create a more complete theology. The group formally or informally gives feed back in the form of approval or disapproval of the leader's actions. The most successful leaders are continually adjusting and reacting to the feedback.” When Prophets Die The Postcharismatic Fate of New Religious Movements Edited by Timothy Miller Introduction by J. Gordon Melton nablusoss1008 asks: Dear Buck, with your knowledge of inter-religions and insight into modern faiths and traditions, what great Saint, in your opinion, does our dear Bevan resemble as he blesses (with folded hands) the students upon the arrival for the ceremony ? Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University http://www.soderetube.com/watch.php?vid=22ec9164c mjackson74 writes: Jabba the Hut, with about as much integrity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Secretary_of_State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_for_Foreign_and_Commonwealth_Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom and Lord President of the Council http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_President_of_the_Council, both in the UK, do TM. I can name a few other British MP's but what would be the point? It isn't like any of them express any sort of spiritual values, Hague is even the Tory frontbencher who took us to war in Libya for crissakes. To me this is proof, as if we need it, that TM isn't going to transform the world any time soon. It will be exactly the same apart from those doing the bullshitting have statistically lower blood pressure than the bullshitters they sit next to. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. All you can get from this is the satisfaction that you've got the same way of dozing off as a few decision makers, it's no more or less meaningful than Lindsay Lohan doing it. And it'll make a bit more money for the TMO I suppose. But wouldn't it be funny if the government over here all started TM and took the rest of the TMO products seriously? We've consulted the jytoshees and got a muhurt for the invasion of Iraq Good, are the pundits ready with a wave of yagya's to support the action? Of course, and all troops have a jyotish gem fixed to their dog tags. Excellent, how are the markets taking the news? Not well but we have strategies to cope with the effect of the downturn on the economy. Yagya's? At the very least! We have a group of yogic flyers stationed in the city to increase coherence Gentlemen, for once we cannot fail. It's not that far-fetched to expect more world leaders to learn TM in the future, as the research showing that TM has unique effects, continues to be published. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Faith what? That TMSP practice makes one into an insane idiot who believes the world leaders will do TM?? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University And why not take a chance on faith, as well. Not religion, but faith. Not hope, but faith. I don't believe in hope. Hope is the beggar. Hope walks through fire and faith leaps over it.” “The Ego tempts us with something we already have.” “It's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass. Your job is not to figure out how it's going to happen for you, but to open the door in your head, and when the door opens in real life, just walk through it. Don't worry if you miss a cue, because there's always doors opening. They keep opening.“ Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University http://www.soderetube.com/watch.php?vid=22ec9164c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Patriotic Russian cat?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com That is seriously weird and a trifle unsettling. You can't train cats to do stuff like that can you? Check out this video if you want to see what cats can be trained to do. This one can play Jenga better than I can: I'm impressed, my dog would have a somewhat different approach I think and would have just eaten them. Clearly I will have to reappraise my opinion of the mog's among us. Jenga Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOyZojbYUEA Jenga Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOyZojbYUEA View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOyZojbYUEA Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms http://youtu.be/6pMl7zVgNms
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like the idea of living in what is considered the world leader in so many fields. But, it is not typical for an American to choose to live elsewhere, so that's why that question would come up. Or maybe its because an answer like duh sounds to me like you are trying to get a pat on the head, good boy. On the other hand, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. If I asked an xpat that question, and they answered in that way, I think I'd feel a little sorry for them. Like, sooner or later they are going to say the same thing about where they live now. n'est pas? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Perfect. All of this stuff sure makes it easier meeting new people in Europe and hearing, You're American? Why did you choose to live here? I just look at them and say, DUH! Nine out of ten times they laugh, because they get it completely. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
Just to follow up on my comment, since I may not be able to do so later, I think what I am trying to say, is that you hear,or read interviews of people who have relocated from other countries, and they will often say, I miss my country. It is screwed up right now, but I'd like to go back, and there are many things I miss about it And these may be people from Afghanistan, or Iraq, or even Syria. You don't often get a fuck that country answer. Just sayin' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like the idea of living in what is considered the world leader in so many fields. But, it is not typical for an American to choose to live elsewhere, so that's why that question would come up. Or maybe its because an answer like duh sounds to me like you are trying to get a pat on the head, good boy. On the other hand, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. If I asked an xpat that question, and they answered in that way, I think I'd feel a little sorry for them. Like, sooner or later they are going to say the same thing about where they live now. n'est pas? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Perfect. All of this stuff sure makes it easier meeting new people in Europe and hearing, You're American? Why did you choose to live here? I just look at them and say, DUH! Nine out of ten times they laugh, because they get it completely. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister and Lord President of the Council, both in the UK, do TM. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. All you can get from this is the satisfaction that you've got the same way of dozing off as a few decision makers, it's no more or less meaningful than Lindsay Lohan doing it. And it'll make a bit more money for the TMO I suppose. But wouldn't it be funny if the government over here all started TM and took the rest of the TMO products seriously? We've consulted the jytoshees and got a muhurt for the invasion of Iraq Good, are the pundits ready with a wave of yagya's to support the action? Of course, and all troops have a jyotish gem fixed to their dog tags. Excellent, how are the markets taking the news? Not well but we have strategies to cope with the effect of the downturn on the economy. Yagya's? At the very least! We have a group of yogic flyers stationed in the city to increase coherence Gentlemen, for once we cannot fail. I can hardly wait for these world leaders to implement public health policies based on Maharishi's teaching that any exercise that raises your breath rate shortens your life. And for the enlightened, TMing future leaders of France to redesign Paris the way Maharishi advised them to do:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
Bawee writes: I can't much believe in the concept of the will of the people when it comes to the United States. The country is simply no longer a participatory democracy. It has one of the lowest voter turnout rates among world democracies, and when people do vote, they don't get what they voted for because of all the corruption and lobbying by corporate interests. Plus, the people are too self-serving and self-involved to ever take the kinds of actions that cause governments to listen to them. No one ever goes on strike unless they're a member of some union that keeps their paychecks coming in while they're on strike. Unlike, say, France, where when the guvmint does something they don't like they just declare a General Strike and *no one* goes to work. The whole country just stops dead -- no trains, no buses, no trucks, no airplanes, nothing. And the country *stays* stopped until the guvmint caves to the will of the people. I simply do not believe this kind of go on strike and miss a few paychecks for the good of *all* of us thinking is even POSSIBLE in the U.S. any more. Polls indicate that the vast majority of the people want something done about the murderous situation they have created in their own streets, but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. So they go out and buy guns of their own and wear them the same way Catholics wear St. Christopher medals, as if the guns were some kind of talisman that was going to protect them. Americans are so stupid that they consider their guns a form of Woo Woo. Why do you always end up going off the rails in your posts and ending up with some cockimaymee conclusions like this? Consequently I can rarely ever take your viewpoints seriously. What sometimes starts out as a considered opinion always ends up with these sweeping, ill-considered diatribes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Bevan? He is different than the other guys around him at that echelon, he seems sort of like an Australian version of Don Corleone. Bevan is a character extremely interesting in the TM story. Maharishi did not designate him 'Guru', everyone else at that level are administrators or 'Raja' though Bevan is 'Prime Minister' over it all. He is clearly the most powerful person and largest elephant in the room. Maharishi used him that way for 40 years. Bevan has presided over all that is TM with Maharishi as Maharishi's confidant and right hand for that long. As such he has also presided over the whole long decline from other times of height of what it once was as Bevan came in to control to some lows of what it is now. Others certainly agree on the elephant part.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
Yes, just look. You won't find what Barry describes, because he made it up, the way he makes up so many of the attitudes he ascribes to those on FFL he doesn't like. Just look at the way even supposed liberals on this forum wave around the phrase the Constitution the same way that Chrisschuns wave around the phrase the Bible, as if they were equally holy, and written by the same author. From the above, you might think Barry considered the Constitution dispensable. But you would be wrong: If people feel like paying for TM and actually believe it does something good for them, I have no problems with that. Pushing it like a drug onto school kids...that's a whole other thing, one that I would fight on Constitutional grounds any day. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/382811 You're so far gone into religious insanity that you believe that disagreeing with you is 'spiritually sinful' and that the U.S. Constitution is a 'technicality' you don't have to worry about when trying to indoctrinate the youth of America into your ill-disguised Hindu Supremacy cult. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/382809
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood
His story is remarkable. He found a teaching in young age and stuck with it, unlike the pundits on this forum. His story would be very interesting to read but I doubt he will ever write it, hopefully someone he trusts will. The transformative power of the TM-programme can be seen in thousands of people, especially as they are nearing old age and Bevan is no exception, looking more saintly in every appearance. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Bevan? He is different than the other guys around him at that echelon, he seems sort of like an Australian version of Don Corleone. Bevan is a character extremely interesting in the TM story. Maharishi did not designate him 'Guru', everyone else at that level are administrators or 'Raja' though Bevan is 'Prime Minister' over it all. He is clearly the most powerful person and largest elephant in the room. Maharishi used him that way for 40 years. Bevan has presided over all that is TM with Maharishi as Maharishi's confidant and right hand for that long. As such he has also presided over the whole long decline from other times of height of what it once was as Bevan came in to control to some lows of what it is now. So, Bevan is not a 'guru', not an administrator like everyone else, he is Prime Minister, is he a saint? One should go back to the scholarly consideration of that. In what way is he spiritually transforming, or spiritually 'charismatic'? He is teacher-ly and in control but what is his 'field effect' that he carries with him? Fear or charisma on a scale of 'spiritual'? Spiritual-charisma? Defining Charismatic, spiritually: charismatic .. . Weber, in an oft quoted passage, defined charisma as a certain quality of an individual personality, by virtue of which [s/]he is set apart from ordinary [people] and treated as endowed with supernatural, superhuman, or at least specifically exceptional powers or qualities. These are such as are not accessible to the ordinary person, but are regarded as of divine origin or as exemplary, and on the basis of them the individual concerned is treated as a leader. 1 Introduction: “.. .New religions as first-generation religions, whether a new orthodox Christian movement such as eighteenth century Methodism or a new Hindu group built around a recently arrived guru, share many characteristics. During the first generation, the founder, whose new ideas led to the formation of the group, places a definitive stamp upon it. The first members are self-selected because of their initial confidence in the the leader and/or their agreement with the leader's program. The first generation is also a time of experimentation and rapid change. The leader must discover the right elements to combine in a workable program, generate solutions to unexpected obstacles, choose and train capable leaders, and elaborate upon the initial ideas or vision that motivated the founding of the group in order to create a more complete theology. The group formally or informally gives feed back in the form of approval or disapproval of the leader's actions. The most successful leaders are continually adjusting and reacting to the feedback.” When Prophets Die The Postcharismatic Fate of New Religious Movements Edited by Timothy Miller Introduction by J. Gordon Melton nablusoss1008 asks: Dear Buck, with your knowledge of inter-religions and insight into modern faiths and traditions, what great Saint, in your opinion, does our dear Bevan resemble as he blesses (with folded hands) the students upon the arrival for the ceremony ? Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University http://www.soderetube.com/watch.php?vid=22ec9164c mjackson74 writes: Jabba the Hut, with about as much integrity.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : hate to show my ignorance, but what is a plod? A cop. As Salyavin suggests, most cops in the U.K. don't carry a gun. The cops in two countries I've lived in here in Europe do, but the way they handle the business of policing varies depending on the country. France is hard-core and believes in police visibility. If a foreign dignitary comes to town or there is a big public event that is likely to attract crime, streets will be closed off and the area surrounded by hundreds of weapon-carrying police. At the last outdoor public concert I attended in Paris, there must have been 200 cops. And surprise...there was no violence. In the Netherlands, during the recent King's Day celebrations in Amsterdam, there were probably an equal number of cops on the street, but you couldn't see them. They positioned themselves in portable trailers and houseboats only a block away from the busiest areas, but kept out of sight. I made it a point of counting, and in a crowd of possibly 10,000 on Dam Square, I found only three uniformed police. And even more of a surprise...there was no violence. Different strokes for different folks...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
Somewhere along the line, Barry lost confidence in his ability to make his points straightforwardly. And the only way he can think of to remedy this perceived deficiency is to exaggerate wildly, or even to lie--never realizing this makes his arguments even less convincing. Polls indicate that the vast majority of the people want something done about the murderous situation they have created in their own streets, but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. So they go out and buy guns of their own and wear them the same way Catholics wear St. Christopher medals, as if the guns were some kind of talisman that was going to protect them. Americans are so stupid that they consider their guns a form of Woo Woo. Why do you always end up going off the rails in your posts and ending up with some cockimaymee conclusions like this? Consequently I can rarely ever take your viewpoints seriously. What sometimes starts out as a considered opinion always ends up with these sweeping, ill-considered diatribes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com I can hardly wait for these world leaders to implement public health policies based on Maharishi's teaching that any exercise that raises your breath rate shortens your life. And for the enlightened, TMing future leaders of France to redesign Paris the way Maharishi advised them to do: I've always thought Paris would be much nicer if they would just knock down all those ugly buildings.
Re: [FairfieldLife] No world peace with meditation!
Thanks for posting that - I made a very nice comment to the article myself. I hope Ken Chawkin, the TM troll and all his buddies like it very much. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 2:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] No world peace with meditation! Value neutral meditation helps killers and traders! A positive message for our times. To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating To Make a Killing on Wall Street, Start Meditating When stock and bond markets took a dive in late January, hedge-fund manager David Ford kept his cool. View on www.bloomberg.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like the idea of living in what is considered the world leader in so many fields. But, it is not typical for an American to choose to live elsewhere, so that's why that question would come up. Or maybe its because an answer like duh sounds to me like you are trying to get a pat on the head, good boy. On the other hand, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. If I asked an xpat that question, and they answered in that way, I think I'd feel a little sorry for them. Like, sooner or later they are going to say the same thing about where they live now. n'est pas? Having grown up in various countries in Europe and having emigrated to Canada in the mid 80's I can only speak from my experience. It is not that I find the US repugnant to live in nor do I hate America. I simply found somewhere that I like living, for now, better. I would not say Duh if someone asked me why I don't live in the States I would simply state all the reasons why I live in Canada which are many - especially in the part of the country where I do live. If I had to live anywhere in Canada other than the West Coast or Toronto I would return to either Europe or the States. I am not here because I dislike other places, it is jus that I prefer Victoria. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Perfect. All of this stuff sure makes it easier meeting new people in Europe and hearing, You're American? Why did you choose to live here? I just look at them and say, DUH! Nine out of ten times they laugh, because they get it completely.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
So Sal, what's your opinion of Nick Clegg and William Hague? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University That's right. The world consciousness has changed forever and we, according to Maharishi, are very lucky to have been a witness to the historic transformation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister and Lord President of the Council, both in the UK, do TM. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. It's not that far-fetched to expect more world leaders to learn TM in the future, as the research showing that TM has unique effects, continues to be published. L From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University And why not take a chance on faith, as well. Not religion, but faith. Not hope, but faith. I don't believe in hope. Hope is the beggar. Hope walks through fire and faith leaps over it.” “The Ego tempts us with something we already have.” “It's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass. Your job is not to figure out how it's going to happen for you, but to open the door in your head, and when the door opens in real life, just walk through it. Don't worry if you miss a cue, because there's always doors opening. They keep opening.“ Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
As I recall, the reason Barry gave here back in 2005 for his move from the U.S. to France was that he was going to write some books, including a novel about the Cathars. He didn't say anything about leaving the country because it was such an awful place. (I don't think we've heard much since about the books, though, and France didn't seem to work out for him, or Spain, for that matter.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like the idea of living in what is considered the world leader in so many fields. But, it is not typical for an American to choose to live elsewhere, so that's why that question would come up. Or maybe its because an answer like duh sounds to me like you are trying to get a pat on the head, good boy. On the other hand, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. If I asked an xpat that question, and they answered in that way, I think I'd feel a little sorry for them. Like, sooner or later they are going to say the same thing about where they live now. n'est pas? Having grown up in various countries in Europe and having emigrated to Canada in the mid 80's I can only speak from my experience. It is not that I find the US repugnant to live in nor do I hate America. I simply found somewhere that I like living, for now, better. I would not say Duh if someone asked me why I don't live in the States I would simply state all the reasons why I live in Canada which are many - especially in the part of the country where I do live. If I had to live anywhere in Canada other than the West Coast or Toronto I would return to either Europe or the States. I am not here because I dislike other places, it is jus that I prefer Victoria. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Perfect. All of this stuff sure makes it easier meeting new people in Europe and hearing, You're American? Why did you choose to live here? I just look at them and say, DUH! Nine out of ten times they laugh, because they get it completely.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood
I heard him once remark after coming back from some meeting with Marshy that he (Bevan) had had a consultation with Triguna and the old doc had pronounced Bevan to have achieved perfect health!!! From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Bevan? He is different than the other guys around him at that echelon, he seems sort of like an Australian version of Don Corleone. Bevan is a character extremely interesting in the TM story. Maharishi did not designate him 'Guru', everyone else at that level are administrators or 'Raja' though Bevan is 'Prime Minister' over it all. He is clearly the most powerful person andlargest elephant in the room. Maharishi used him that way for 40 years. Bevan has presided over all that is TM with Maharishi as Maharishi's confidant and right hand for that long. As such he has also presided over the whole long decline from other times of height of what it once was as Bevan came in to control to some lows of what it is now. Others certainly agree on the elephant part.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
One of the best send ups of TM and its many mostrums I have ever read!!! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister and Lord President of the Council, both in the UK, do TM. I can name a few other British MP's but what would be the point? It isn't like any of them express any sort of spiritual values, Hague is even the Tory frontbencher who took us to war in Libya for crissakes. To me this is proof, as if we need it, that TM isn't going to transform the world any time soon. It will be exactly the same apart from those doing the bullshitting have statistically lower blood pressure than the bullshitters they sit next to. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. All you can get from this is the satisfaction that you've got the same way of dozing off as a few decision makers, it's no more or less meaningful than Lindsay Lohan doing it. And it'll make a bit more money for the TMO I suppose. But wouldn't it be funny if the government over here all started TM and took the rest of the TMO products seriously? We've consulted the jytoshees and got a muhurt for the invasion of Iraq Good, are the pundits ready with a wave of yagya's to support the action? Of course, and all troops have a jyotish gem fixed to their dog tags. Excellent, how are the markets taking the news? Not well but we have strategies to cope with the effect of the downturn on the economy. Yagya's? At the very least! We have a group of yogic flyers stationed in the city to increase coherence Gentlemen, for once we cannot fail. It's not that far-fetched to expect more world leaders to learn TM in the future, as the research showing that TM has unique effects, continues to be published. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Faith what? That TMSP practice makes one into an insane idiot who believes the world leaders will do TM?? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University And why not take a chance on faith, as well. Not religion, but faith. Not hope, but faith. I don't believe in hope. Hope is the beggar. Hope walks through fire and faith leaps over it.” “The Ego tempts us with something we already have.” “It's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass. Your job is not to figure out how it's going to happen for you, but to open the door in your head, and when the door opens in real life, just walk through it. Don't worry if you miss a cue, because there's always doors opening. They keep opening.“ Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
[FairfieldLife] Ojai, like MSAE?
Is this school similar to MSAE in that it also teaches meditation to the students in a consciousness based education? Just wondering, Oak Grove School (Ojai, California) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Grove_School_(Ojai,_California) Oak Grove School (Ojai, California) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Grove_School_(Ojai,_California) Oak Grove School is a progressive, private, vegetarian k-12 co-educational boarding school located in Ojai, California (near the Meiners Oaks neighborhood). It was founded by Jiddu Krishnamurti and is operated by the Krishnamurti Foundation of America. Oak Grove Scho... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Grove_School_(Ojai,_California) Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : One of the best send ups of TM and its many mostrums I have ever read!!! Then it's a shame I ran out of time due to people at work unreasonably expecting me to actually do what I'm paid for. Being in the Natural Law Party was actually like that though, this is how they operated. They just assumed that nature was right and if the jyotishees told us a particular time to do something like hold a press conference, that is when it would be held. I wish I was making it up but it didn't even matter if they had recommended the worst time we'd still do it. I remember when it was pointed out that doing a conference on a friday instead of a monday would get us twice the coverage but the reasoning was overruled in favour of the jyotish recommendation. Gosh said the press officer maybe nature doesn't want us to succeed! I remember wondering what the point of it all was just then. It's just as well that the public saw us for what we were because I can't think of a worse way to organise anything than blindly accepting a horoscope. Madness. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Secretary_of_State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_for_Foreign_and_Commonwealth_Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom and Lord President of the Council http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_President_of_the_Council, both in the UK, do TM. I can name a few other British MP's but what would be the point? It isn't like any of them express any sort of spiritual values, Hague is even the Tory frontbencher who took us to war in Libya for crissakes. To me this is proof, as if we need it, that TM isn't going to transform the world any time soon. It will be exactly the same apart from those doing the bullshitting have statistically lower blood pressure than the bullshitters they sit next to. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. All you can get from this is the satisfaction that you've got the same way of dozing off as a few decision makers, it's no more or less meaningful than Lindsay Lohan doing it. And it'll make a bit more money for the TMO I suppose. But wouldn't it be funny if the government over here all started TM and took the rest of the TMO products seriously? We've consulted the jytoshees and got a muhurt for the invasion of Iraq Good, are the pundits ready with a wave of yagya's to support the action? Of course, and all troops have a jyotish gem fixed to their dog tags. Excellent, how are the markets taking the news? Not well but we have strategies to cope with the effect of the downturn on the economy. Yagya's? At the very least! We have a group of yogic flyers stationed in the city to increase coherence Gentlemen, for once we cannot fail. It's not that far-fetched to expect more world leaders to learn TM in the future, as the research showing that TM has unique effects, continues to be published. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Faith what? That TMSP practice makes one into an insane idiot who believes the world leaders will do TM?? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University And why not take a chance on faith, as well. Not religion, but faith. Not hope, but faith. I don't believe in hope. Hope is the beggar. Hope walks through fire and faith leaps over it.” “The Ego tempts us with something we already have.” “It's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass. Your job is not to figure out how it's going to happen for you, but to open the door in your head, and when the door opens in real life, just walk through it. Don't worry if you miss a cue, because there's always doors opening. They keep opening.“ Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University http://www.soderetube.com/watch.php?vid=22ec9164c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Somewhere along the line, Barry lost confidence in his ability to make his points straightforwardly. And the only way he can think of to remedy this perceived deficiency is to exaggerate wildly, or even to lie--never realizing this makes his arguments even less convincing. You're the expert, you've seen him at work a long time now so I'll defer to you. Even more frightening might be the possibility that he actually believes what he writes. Polls indicate that the vast majority of the people want something done about the murderous situation they have created in their own streets, but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. So they go out and buy guns of their own and wear them the same way Catholics wear St. Christopher medals, as if the guns were some kind of talisman that was going to protect them. Americans are so stupid that they consider their guns a form of Woo Woo. Why do you always end up going off the rails in your posts and ending up with some cockimaymee conclusions like this? Consequently I can rarely ever take your viewpoints seriously. What sometimes starts out as a considered opinion always ends up with these sweeping, ill-considered diatribes.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/28/2014 10:26 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Perhaps the entire constitution should be scraped and we should start again from where we are now, not where we were in the 1700's. So, you're thinking that by depriving me of my basic civil rights, that will stop the next killing? What's next? Apparently the U.S. Senate voted to change the language of the Second Amendment by removing the definition of militia, and striking the conscientious objector clause: A well regulated militia, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I heard him once remark after coming back from some meeting with Marshy that he (Bevan) had had a consultation with Triguna and the old doc had pronounced Bevan to have achieved perfect health!!! Well then, bring on the chocolate sundaes! From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 9:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan and Sainthood ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Bevan? He is different than the other guys around him at that echelon, he seems sort of like an Australian version of Don Corleone. Bevan is a character extremely interesting in the TM story. Maharishi did not designate him 'Guru', everyone else at that level are administrators or 'Raja' though Bevan is 'Prime Minister' over it all. He is clearly the most powerful person and largest elephant in the room. Maharishi used him that way for 40 years. Bevan has presided over all that is TM with Maharishi as Maharishi's confidant and right hand for that long. As such he has also presided over the whole long decline from other times of height of what it once was as Bevan came in to control to some lows of what it is now. Others certainly agree on the elephant part.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 10:26 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Perhaps the entire constitution should be scraped and we should start again from where we are now, not where we were in the 1700's. So, you're thinking that by depriving me of my basic civil rights, that will stop the next killing? What's next? Civil rights, eh? Your civil right to carry a loaded instrument anytime and anywhere you like in order to off some guy you feel has done you wrong, scared you or made you mad. I see... It might be time to reevaluate what civil rights actually means because your civil right in this case applies to the other guy is who also holding a loaded killing machine. Civil rights has nothing whatsoever to do with possessing the means to kill someone else without breaking a sweat or opening your mouth to dialogue first. Sheer and utter madness masquerading as a right that you claim would actually want to possess. Apparently the U.S. Senate voted to change the language of the Second Amendment by removing the definition of militia, and striking the conscientious objector clause: A well regulated militia, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/28/2014 7:19 PM, feste37 wrote: True. And it's still badly written. As an editor, would you let that sentence go by you unaltered? I certainly wouldn't. Let's keep in mind that this is the /Bill of Rights/. What right would an amendment like this serve? Why would the authors want to protect /a military right to bear arms - that's what they do./ It wouldn't even make any sense. The majority of U.S. citizens believe they have the civil right to keep a handgun at home for self-defense. Any responsible citizen would be concerned about an extremist view on gun rights as suggested by Stevens. Most Americans would probably oppose Justice Stevens' radical view on changing the Second Amendment. And, most Americans are not interested in any radical changes in the rights of Americans. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : *Excellent find, feste. No chance of his suggested amendment being enacted, though, I fear.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The 2nd Amendment is badly written and is itself in need of amendment. I agree with Justice John Paul Stevens who would amend it thus: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms when serving in the Militia shall not be infringed.” That would get rid of all this nonsense about the right of individuals to carry whatever arms they choose. It is a collective right, not an individual one. How to fix the Second Amendment http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-five-extra-words-that-can-fix-the-second-amendment/2014/04/11/f8a19578-b8fa-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html image http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-five-extra-words-that-can-fix-the-second-amendment/2014/04/11/f8a19578-b8fa-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html How to fix the Second Amendment http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-five-extra-words-that-can-fix-the-second-amendment/2014/04/11/f8a19578-b8fa-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html Just add five words, says former justice John Paul Stevens. View on www.washingtonpost... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-five-extra-words-that-can-fix-the-second-amendment/2014/04/11/f8a19578-b8fa-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html Preview by Yahoo --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So Sal, what's your opinion of Nick Clegg and William Hague? Not much and quite a lot. For both of them. Hague is the original Tory boy, and that's not a compliment. He made a speech at the party conference when he was 15 and Maggie Thatcher loved him. He learnt TM when he was 16 and looks good for it. He became Tory party leader for a while and was pretty good apart from two things: 1, he's a northerner. This doesn't sit well with the elitist, oxbridge southern press in this country. A stupid as it sounds even having an accent that gets remarked upon is considered the kiss of death because it distracts from the message. That's how toxic the relationship between the press and MPs has become. If they won't shut up about something, you've got to go. His other problem was the press considered that he looks like an embryo, honest that's the sort of level they stoop to. I actually like Hague as a plain speaking and direct guy, shame he doesn't share my politics really as he seems much more appealing than the opposition at the moment. You have to be bland, smooth and southern to avoid upsetting the PR machine that runs everything nowadays. And definitely not bald. Which brings us onto Clegg, he's as bland and smooth as it's possible for a human to be and would have remained an also-ran but for the TV debates they had before the last election when everyone realised he might actually have something to say worth hearing. Compared to David Cameron and Gordon Brown that's not hard. Consequently he did well in the election but formed a coalition with the hated Tory Scum and promptly went back on some major election pledges, thus guaranteeing he will be kicked into the outer darkness at the next election. I feel sorry for him as he's probably a decent guy and he's the only party leader with the guts to have a live debate on the future of Europe with the leader of our UK independence party. Kudos to him for that, the rest of them are too scared to voice an opinion on anything in case it gets quoted back at them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University That's right. The world consciousness has changed forever and we, according to Maharishi, are very lucky to have been a witness to the historic transformation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Secretary_of_State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_for_Foreign_and_Commonwealth_Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deputy_Prime_Minister_of_the_United_Kingdom and Lord President of the Council http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_President_of_the_Council, both in the UK, do TM. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. It's not that far-fetched to expect more world leaders to learn TM in the future, as the research showing that TM has unique effects, continues to be published. L From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University And why not take a chance on faith, as well. Not religion, but faith. Not hope, but faith. I don't believe in hope. Hope is the beggar. Hope walks through fire and faith leaps over it.” “The Ego tempts us with something we already have.” “It's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass. Your job is not to figure out how it's going to happen for you, but to open the door in your head, and when the door opens in real life, just walk through it. Don't worry if you miss a cue, because there's always doors opening. They keep opening.“ Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University http://www.soderetube.com/watch.php?vid=22ec9164c
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/28/2014 10:44 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Salyavin, am I supposed to be impressed with two whole dumpsters filled with knives? If you want to impress me, have the little bastards that were doing all the stabbing, turn themselves in to the police, who then prosecute them. Knives/guns don't kill people, people kill people! Give me a break. People with guns do all sorts of things they wouldn't dream of doing without the gun in their hand. Basic yellow-bellied cowards will suddenly become brave when they're holding a gun. People holding guns kill people. Cowards with only their fists or their words to fight their battles for them will find themselves backing away. Apparently you have not been around any border towns in the Southwestern USA. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
Mindfulness is just another door to the same room. On 05/28/2014 09:37 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change??
[FairfieldLife] Americans suck at evaluating risk
They believe -- and, as you've been able to tell from some of the knee-jerk reactions here, *really* believe -- that carrying a gun decreases their likelihood of getting shot. In reality, depending on the scientific study cited (and there have been many), carrying a gun INCREASES your likelihood of getting shot by anywhere from 20% to 44%. Americans are idiots.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
On 5/28/2014 11:37 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. Mindfulness is meditation, a practice which involves thinking. The term mindfulness is really a misnomer because the whole idea of yogic meditation is to transcend the mind of discursive thinking and to experience emptiness. The goal of both mindfulness and meditation is yoga - the experience of /samadhi/. The potential problem with some teachers-student relationships is that the teacher may become the focus of the meditation and thus tend to keep the seeker on the conscious level of thinking - the meditation often becomes a form of /guru yoga/. For example, Fred Lenz used to put a framed photo Chinmoy on a coffee table and have his students meditate on the image, calling it The Transcendental. Apparently this had an adverse effect on some seekers. Go figure. My Guru, the Lama: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/367198 As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change?? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 05/29/2014 12:11 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Is it apathy or fear of changing the all powerful constitution? I saw a chat show interview between the awful Piers Morgan and some right-wing gun nut after the last primary school wipeout and Morgan had to resign after suggesting that gun controls should be tighter. You mean Alex Jones. Alex is a shock jock and a little over the top when it come to guns. BTW, Howard Stern commented on that shows and thought it was good television. Alex is also anti-GMO, anti-fascism and has a crew in Copenhagen this week to cover the Bilderberg Group meeting. Alex recently hosted Alice Waters (The Color Purple). If you listen to his show (available via streaming at www.infowars.com ) you'll hear a promo done by Mike Judge doing his Hank Hill voice. Richard Belzer is a fan and drops by occasionally once with Christopher Walken hanging out with him. And Ed Asner is a fan and drops by sometimes. Sometimes Alex goes a little jeezuzzy and sometimes he sounds like he might have had a walking mantra as a kid (bet his folks probably learned TM from what he says about them). Jones is good listening though I don't agree with him on everything.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
Yes, there's good and bad on there. I did like this though: The Military Is Building Brain Chips to Treat PTSD http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/05/D1-Tucker-military-building-brain-chips-treat-ptsd/85360/ http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/05/D1-Tucker-military-building-brain-chips-treat-ptsd/85360/ The Military Is Building Brain Chips to Treat PTSD http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/05/D1-Tucker-military-building-brain-chips-treat-ptsd/85360/ The Defense Department is developing a new, mood-predicting brain chip to treat PTSD in soldiers. By Patrick Tucker View on www.defenseone.com http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2014/05/D1-Tucker-military-building-brain-chips-treat-ptsd/85360/ Preview by Yahoo Can't wait to get one fitted myself. But haven't they heard of TM? --- ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 05/29/2014 12:11 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Is it apathy or fear of changing the all powerful constitution? I saw a chat show interview between the awful Piers Morgan and some right-wing gun nut after the last primary school wipeout and Morgan had to resign after suggesting that gun controls should be tighter. You mean Alex Jones. Alex is a shock jock and a little over the top when it come to guns. BTW, Howard Stern commented on that shows and thought it was good television. Alex is also anti-GMO, anti-fascism and has a crew in Copenhagen this week to cover the Bilderberg Group meeting. Alex recently hosted Alice Waters (The Color Purple). If you listen to his show (available via streaming at www.infowars.com http://www.infowars.com ) you'll hear a promo done by Mike Judge doing his Hank Hill voice. Richard Belzer is a fan and drops by occasionally once with Christopher Walken hanging out with him. And Ed Asner is a fan and drops by sometimes. Sometimes Alex goes a little jeezuzzy and sometimes he sounds like he might have had a walking mantra as a kid (bet his folks probably learned TM from what he says about them). Jones is good listening though I don't agree with him on everything.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 1:49 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I can't much believe in the concept of the will of the people when it comes to the United States. The country is simply no longer a participatory democracy. It has one of the lowest voter turnout rates among world democracies Now this is funny - a guy that doesn't even vote in U.S. elections, /or apparently in ANY elections,/ is lecturing us on low voter turnout. Go figure. Voter turnout is the percentage of eligible voters who cast a ballot in an election. After increasing for many decades, there has been a trend of decreasing voter turnout in U.S. federal elections which in almost every case is /due to contentment with the current system/. Different countries have very different voter turnouts, some countries even have mandatory voting laws. In the U.S. 2008 presidential election turnout was 64%. Apparently the American public believes that the Founding Fathers were close to infallible, and that while our political system has its faults, /it functions far better than other democracies. / --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 2:11 AM, salyavin808 wrote: /And the country *stays* stopped until the guvmint caves to the will of the people./ I see why the guvverment of the UK has been trying to turn us into America for decades So you could earn some money? *'France in 14bn-euro tax black hole'* BBC News Business: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27602312 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 3:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think that part of it is the attachment people feel for IDEAS and MYTHS. They've been taught to believe in these things so long that they can't conceive of life without them. Now this is /really/ funny - a guy posts to the group about /believing in ideas and myths/, the same guy that posted a positive review of the movie 'The Hunger Games, which as everyone knows, /is about teenagers killing themselves./ Can anyone spell 'cognitive dissonance'? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 3:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: In short, if any American really woke up and took a look around them at the differences between the IDEAS and MEMES and MYTHS they'd been taught to believe about their country and what it's really like, they'd probably have to consider moving somewhere else. Well, I guess that explains why you're still posting messages about America to friends in New Jersey, working for an American company, watching hours and hours of American music, movies and TV, and why you still hold onto your American passport. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 3:06 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ...just look at the people on this forum who attempt to demonize ex-pats who have done just that. You are incorrect, I'm not trying to demonize a fellow Texan, all I'm saying is you're living in a place full of pot-smoking, cross-dressing, gay and lesbian, transgender, liberal and fascist bikers, that hang out in hash dens smoking tobacco on the sidewalk while looking at their cell phones. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
Your take on the situation is even more simplistic than Barry's. It isn't a matter of fear of changing the Constitution; it's that doing so is miserably difficult, especially when there are powerful interests against a particular change: Constitutional Amendments - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html Constitutional Amendments - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html Facts and Information about amendments to the U.S. Constitution View on www.usconstitution.net http://www.usconstitution.net/constam.html Preview by Yahoo Those same powerful interests also make it virtually impossible to get saner gun-control laws through Congress, even though a majority of the American people want those laws. Changing that situation is monumentally difficult as well (and it adversely affects far more than just gun control). Non-USians often don't seem to realize this is a HUGE country with many competing interests. The idea of calling a general strike here is ludicrous. Also, Piers Morgan didn't have to resign because he suggested gun controls should be tighter in that interview. His show had been in serious trouble for quite some time, and his stance against guns was only one of the factors. Plus which, how he inveighed against guns was part of that problem--obnoxiously and nearly continuously. Americans, not altogether surprisingly, don't cotton to Brits lecturing them on how to run their country daily in prime time on national television, especially when the Brit has been here for only a short time. And Morgan himself understood that his show was going down the tubes and thought it was time to put a stake through its heart. (CNN canceled his show; they didn't send him back to the UK.) Is it apathy or fear of changing the all powerful constitution? I saw a chat show interview between the awful Piers Morgan and some right-wing gun nut after the last primary school wipeout and Morgan had to resign after suggesting that gun controls should be tighter. There was enough opposition that the network didn't think anyone would watch him again so they sent him home (we didn't want him back) Do so many want the constitution upheld whatever the cost, or is it that the gun freaks are so vocal they drown out all the common sense?
Re: [FairfieldLife] These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns
Followup: Deputies Seize 7 Guns, Ammo From UCSB Student's Home Deputies Seize 7 Guns, Ammo From UCSB Student's Home Sheriff’s deputies seized several guns and about 1,000 rounds of ammunition from a UC Santa Barbara student who was arrested after he accidentally fired one ... View on www.nbclosangeles... Preview by Yahoo From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:34 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's Awful Friends Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's A... Tuesday morning, I logged into a chat room full of refugees of the since shuttered PUAHate forum once frequented by University of California-... View on jezebel.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Towel Day, Hoopy Froods!
I had a few good artichokes so far. They are still on sale around here. Corn season is on so I usually get some white ears. According to Jeffery Smith the GMO activist there is no GMO white, red or blue corn nor GMO popcorn. On 05/27/2014 12:43 PM, azgrey wrote: Getting to the end of the season, Barry2. I had a few as early as Febuary. In March they were plentiful. April was peak season. Ya gotta get right after 'em in May as the delicious heart is, as you know, the bud of the flower. As it gets warmer and warmer the beautiful purple flowers burst amazingly fast. As pretty as those flowers are, I'd rather eat 'em. Kinda like lamb. evil grin The crop was bountiful and delicious. Our winter was mild and dry. I only remember one freeze and it was not a deep one. (deep being below freezing for more than 4-6 hours or so) The lack of precipitation has not been an issue as Singh Farms is on Indian land and gets a CAP irrigation water allotment. If we don't use our allocation of CAP H2O then those greedy Californicators will claim it as theirs. We can't have that, can we? The spring has been long and also mild. Spring started in January, climatically rather than celestially, and really hasn't ended until about today. How is your crop this year, Barry2? One of these days I am going to make pilgrimage to Castroville/Watsonville and give obeisance to the aritichoke gods. Haven't been over there since the highway washed out by Big Sur. The day it hits 117 here I should go see the Hearst Castle again. https://www.facebook.com/singhfarms
[FairfieldLife] These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns
Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's Awful Friends Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's A... Tuesday morning, I logged into a chat room full of refugees of the since shuttered PUAHate forum once frequented by University of California-... View on jezebel.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns
You're beginning to sound like Nabby, Turq. :-D On 05/29/2014 11:34 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's Awful Friends http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 image http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's A... http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 Tuesday morning, I logged into a chat room full of refugees of the since shuttered PUAHate forum once frequented by University of California-... View on jezebel.com http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns
What kind of weird psychopathology is it that makes Barry conceive of you Americans as a 318-million-person monolith who all want and believe the same things? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's Awful Friends http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 Lessons From a Day Spent With the UCSB Shooter's A... http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 Tuesday morning, I logged into a chat room full of refugees of the since shuttered PUAHate forum once frequented by University of California-... View on jezebel.com http://jezebel.com/lessons-from-a-day-spent-with-the-ucsb-shooters-awful-f-1582884301 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns
From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com What kind of weird psychopathology is it that makes Barry conceive of you Americans as a 318-million-person monolith who all want and believe the same things? There is only one meaningful measure of who or what a country is. That is *not* what it says, or what individuals living within it claim to want or believe. It's what that country as a whole DOES. America allows its citizens to continue murdering other citizens in the name of civil rights. They have done this now for century after century, year after year, month after month, and week after week. During the two weeks prior to the recent UCSB shootings, 80 people were killed by guns in the United States, and NO ONE NOTICED, because that was everyday news. The *only* thing that catches their attention is when the killer manages to turn his -- let's face it -- *everyday* actions into a media event. And then they respond by shrugging their shoulders and saying, What can we do? I repeat my thesis. Americans are idiots.
[FairfieldLife] Spiritual Tech Support
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns
America allows it's citizens to murder other citizens in the name of civil rights, blah blah blah. Premise check! This really is getting to be an emotional diatribe. I better leave this one alone before Barry pulls out a gun and starts shooting. On Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:37 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com What kind of weird psychopathology is it that makes Barry conceive of you Americans as a 318-million-person monolith who all want and believe the same things? There is only one meaningful measure of who or what a country is. That is *not* what it says, or what individuals living within it claim to want or believe. It's what that country as a whole DOES. America allows its citizens to continue murdering other citizens in the name of civil rights. They have done this now for century after century, year after year, month after month, and week after week. During the two weeks prior to the recent UCSB shootings, 80 people were killed by guns in the United States, and NO ONE NOTICED, because that was everyday news. The *only* thing that catches their attention is when the killer manages to turn his -- let's face it -- *everyday* actions into a media event. And then they respond by shrugging their shoulders and saying, What can we do? I repeat my thesis. Americans are idiots.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Spiritual Tech Support
Tech Support in the Middle Ages: http://youtu.be/pQHX-SjgQvQ On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:04 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: [image: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10325543_10203661865337813_147292879801127161_n.jpg]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 10:33 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So, you're thinking that by depriving me of my basic civil rights, that will stop the next killing? What's next? Civil rights, eh? Your civil right to carry a loaded instrument anytime and anywhere you like in order to off some guy you feel has done you wrong, scared you or made you mad. The case is pretty well closed and the U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled. According to the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, it is the civil right of the U.S. citizens to keep and bear arms, and that right shall not be infringed. That's the law. There is no way the government is going to force people in the U.S. or Canada to give up their guns - it is their right to own a hand gun for protection or a rifle for hunting and sport. You've got to face the reality. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 9:27 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You really /should/ know what the Bill of Rights is, though. That's pretty basic. I'll do the research immediately. Sort of... Are you able to read? 'The Second Amendment as Ordinary Constitutional Law' by Glenn Harlan Reynolds http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Papers.cfm?abstract_id=2423394 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 9:24 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As I recall, the reason Barry gave here back in 2005 for his move from the U.S. to France was that he was going to write some books, including a novel about the Cathars. Apparently Barry gave up on the idea of writing a novel about the /Cathars/ after he got put down by Moggin on alt.religion.gnostic. Barry claimed to have read over 200 books on the Cathars, but not a single book on the Gnostics. Go figure. Almost everyone knows that the Cathars are derived from Bogomils; Bogomils are derived from Paulicans; Paulicans from Manicheans; Manicheans from Gnostics. Thus the Cathars are derived from Gnostics. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: These are the people you Americans want to have easy access to guns
Barry, you are more narrow-minded, rigid, and simplistic in your thinking than the most crackpot Tea Party fundamentalist. My mind is made up; don't confuse me with the facts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: authfriend@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com What kind of weird psychopathology is it that makes Barry conceive of you Americans as a 318-million-person monolith who all want and believe the same things? There is only one meaningful measure of who or what a country is. That is *not* what it says, or what individuals living within it claim to want or believe. It's what that country as a whole DOES. America allows its citizens to continue murdering other citizens in the name of civil rights. They have done this now for century after century, year after year, month after month, and week after week. During the two weeks prior to the recent UCSB shootings, 80 people were killed by guns in the United States, and NO ONE NOTICED, because that was everyday news. The *only* thing that catches their attention is when the killer manages to turn his -- let's face it -- *everyday* actions into a media event. And then they respond by shrugging their shoulders and saying, What can we do? I repeat my thesis. Americans are idiots.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/29/2014 9:00 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Somewhere along the line, Barry lost confidence in his ability to make his points straightforwardly. And the only way he can think of to remedy this perceived deficiency is to exaggerate wildly, or even to lie--never realizing this makes his arguments even /less/ convincing. Barry is supposedly writing science articles, but his research methodology is questionable. This rant seems more emotional than reasonably thought out. We don't know where Barry gets his data, but obviously there is no way to know whether the mere presence of guns, as opposed to other factors, causes higher rates of violence - no causal factor has been shown. That's because scientists are unable to conduct a random experiment. Gun owners do not need to register simply to purchase a gun. And so researchers are left to rely on surveys. In fact, as gun ownership has gone up, violent crime has gone down. According to the CDC data, gun homicides have declined each year since 2007, falling from 12,791 in 2006 to 11,078 in 2010. The homicide rate in 2010 (3.6 per 100,000 people) was the lowest since at least 1981 — which is as far back as the CDC’s online database goes. Go figure. Polls indicate that the vast majority of the people want something done about the murderous situation they have created in their own streets, but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
but the people are such self-serving sheep that they'd literally rather die in the tens of thousands every year from guns than do anything about it. So they go out and buy guns of their own and wear them the same way Catholics wear St. Christopher medals, as if the guns were some kind of talisman that was going to protect them. Americans are so stupid that they consider their guns a form of Woo Woo. On 5/29/2014 8:43 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Why do you always end up going off the rails in your posts and ending up with some cockimaymee conclusions like this? Consequently I can rarely ever take your viewpoints seriously. What sometimes starts out as a considered opinion always ends up with these sweeping, ill-considered diatribes. Maybe that's because Barry doesn't know what to do about gun control. With Barry, it's never about guns, /it's all about control/ - controlling the conversation. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/28/2014 4:16 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Oh well, pardon me for not knowing which dumbass amendment is which, all I see is the mess your stupid country has ended up in. You might start your research with English common-law and the English Bill of Rights of 1689. Key words: Sir William Blackstone. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/28/2014 4:14 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Didn't have to wait no month: And Dicky wasn't around to shoot them before they shot each other! More guns needed obviously. What would you do - stand by and watch and place bets? On the afternoon of 22 May 2013, a British Army soldier, Drummer (Fusilier) Lee Rigby of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, was attacked and killed by Michael Adebolajo and Michael Adebowale near the Royal Artillery Barracks in Woolwich, southeast London. Rigby was off duty and walking along Wellington Street when he was attacked. Two men ran him down with a car, then used knives and a cleaver to stab and hack him to death. The men dragged Rigby's body into the road and remained at the scene until police arrived. They told passers-by that they had killed a soldier to avenge the killing of Muslims by the British armed forces. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Lee_Rigby --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
thanks for that - I'll have to study up on UK politics and see why the Torys are so unlikeable. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So Sal, what's your opinion of Nick Clegg and William Hague? Not much and quite a lot. For both of them. Hague is the original Tory boy, and that's not a compliment. He made a speech at the party conference when he was 15 and Maggie Thatcher loved him. He learnt TM when he was 16 and looks good for it. He became Tory party leader for a while and was pretty good apart from two things: 1, he's a northerner. This doesn't sit well with the elitist, oxbridge southern press in this country. A stupid as it sounds even having an accent that gets remarked upon is considered the kiss of death because it distracts from the message. That's how toxic the relationship between the press and MPs has become. If they won't shut up about something, you've got to go. His other problem was the press considered that he looks like an embryo, honest that's the sort of level they stoop to. I actually like Hague as a plain speaking and direct guy, shame he doesn't share my politics really as he seems much more appealing than the opposition at the moment. You have to be bland, smooth and southern to avoid upsetting the PR machine that runs everything nowadays. And definitely not bald. Which brings us onto Clegg, he's as bland and smooth as it's possible for a human to be and would have remained an also-ran but for the TV debates they had before the last election when everyone realised he might actually have something to say worth hearing. Compared to David Cameron and Gordon Brown that's not hard. Consequently he did well in the election but formed a coalition with the hated Tory Scum and promptly went back on some major election pledges, thus guaranteeing he will be kicked into the outer darkness at the next election. I feel sorry for him as he's probably a decent guy and he's the only party leader with the guts to have a live debate on the future of Europe with the leader of our UK independence party. Kudos to him for that, the rest of them are too scared to voice an opinion on anything in case it gets quoted back at them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University That's right. The world consciousness has changed forever and we, according to Maharishi, are very lucky to have been a witness to the historic transformation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : The President of Brazil does TM. At least one past-President of Mozambique does TM. William Hague, First Secretary of State and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs since 2010, Nick Clegg, Deputy Prime Minister and Lord President of the Council, both in the UK, do TM. No doubt many other people in high leadership positions do TM. It's not that far-fetched to expect more world leaders to learn TM in the future, as the research showing that TM has unique effects, continues to be published. L From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University And why not take a chance on faith, as well. Not religion, but faith. Not hope, but faith. I don't believe in hope. Hope is the beggar. Hope walks through fire and faith leaps over it.” “The Ego tempts us with something we already have.” “It's about letting the universe know what you want, and working toward it, while letting go of how it comes to pass. Your job is not to figure out how it's going to happen for you, but to open the door in your head, and when the door opens in real life, just walk through it. Don't worry if you miss a cue, because there's always doors opening. They keep opening.“ Comedian Jim Carrey Funny, Heartfelt Commencement Address at Maharishi University
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
Mindfullness is getting quite popular but it's probably just a fad. I've met two who tried it, both claimed they only got a headache from it and no peacefulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 11:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. Mindfulness is meditation, a practice which involves thinking. The term mindfulness is really a misnomer because the whole idea of yogic meditation is to transcend the mind of discursive thinking and to experience emptiness. The goal of both mindfulness and meditation is yoga - the experience of samadhi. The potential problem with some teachers-student relationships is that the teacher may become the focus of the meditation and thus tend to keep the seeker on the conscious level of thinking - the meditation often becomes a form of guru yoga. For example, Fred Lenz used to put a framed photo Chinmoy on a coffee table and have his students meditate on the image, calling it The Transcendental. Apparently this had an adverse effect on some seekers. Go figure. My Guru, the Lama: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/367198 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/367198 As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change?? This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
better results then than the 90% who witness Marshy's made up puja and later decide TM is not for them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not? Mindfullness is getting quite popular but it's probably just a fad. I've met two who tried it, both claimed they only got a headache from it and no peacefulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 11:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. Mindfulness is meditation, a practice which involves thinking. The term mindfulness is really a misnomer because the whole idea of yogic meditation is to transcend the mind of discursive thinking and to experience emptiness. The goal of both mindfulness and meditation is yoga - the experience of samadhi. The potential problem with some teachers-student relationships is that the teacher may become the focus of the meditation and thus tend to keep the seeker on the conscious level of thinking - the meditation often becomes a form of guru yoga. For example, Fred Lenz used to put a framed photo Chinmoy on a coffee table and have his students meditate on the image, calling it The Transcendental. Apparently this had an adverse effect on some seekers. Go figure. My Guru, the Lama: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/367198 As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change?? This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
Re: [FairfieldLife] India’s new PM, Narendra Modi is Yet Another Transcendental Meditation Celebrity - See more at: http://www.tminjoburg. co.za/indias-new-pm-narendra-modi-is-yet-anothe r-transcend
On 5/28/2014 1:29 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: This pot-smoking and tequila drinking fellow MJ in his trailer is scared that a TM-meditator will become the leader of a true Superpower. Well, to him and all others; welcome to the Age of Enlightenment ! It kind of looks like MJ at one time was a conservative, but he also wants to be a liberal. At any rate, if it has to do with TM or TMSP, he's against it. That's probably why he failed to complete a single course at MIU - he just can't seem to commit to anything for longer than a couple of years. It's probably a good thing he found FFL, so now he has something to do - /maybe he can stick with it longer than he baked bread for the TMO./ Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
On 5/28/2014 1:53 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Given that there are mass killings virtually every week in America, not to mention a high murder rate anyway, are you sure that the balance of value is a good one? Given all factors is there a causal relation between gun owners and murder rates? Apparently murder rates have gone done as gun ownership has risen. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] India’s new PM, Narendra Modi is Yet Another Transcendental Meditation Celebrity - See more at: http://www.tminjobur g. co.za/indias-new-pm-narendra-modi-is-yet-ano the r-trans
MJ isn't the only quitter on this board, in fact the majority are. And they usually keep quitting until they have tasted the whole spiritual smorgasbord Having gained nothing they find their place around the table Rick Archer created for them to vent their frustrations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 1:29 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: This pot-smoking and tequila drinking fellow MJ in his trailer is scared that a TM-meditator will become the leader of a true Superpower. Well, to him and all others; welcome to the Age of Enlightenment ! It kind of looks like MJ at one time was a conservative, but he also wants to be a liberal. At any rate, if it has to do with TM or TMSP, he's against it. That's probably why he failed to complete a single course at MIU - he just can't seem to commit to anything for longer than a couple of years. It's probably a good thing he found FFL, so now he has something to do - maybe he can stick with it longer than he baked bread for the TMO. Go figure. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] Monsanto Protection Act Signed By Obama, GMO Bill “Written By Monsanto” Signed Into Law
The Monsanto Protection Act, essentially both written by and benefiting Monsanto Corporation, has been signed into law by United States President Barack Obama. The infamous Monsanto Corporation will benefit greatly and directly from the bill, as it essentially gives companies that deal with genetically modified organisms (GMOs) and genetically engineered (GE) seeds immunity to the federal courts, among other things. The bill states that even if future research shows that GMOs or GE seeds cause significant health problems, cancer, etc, anything, that the federal courts no longer have any power to stop their spread, use, or sales. Monsanto Protection Act Signed By Obama, GMO Bill Written By Monsanto Signed Into Law http://www.globalresearch.ca/monsanto-protection-act-signed-by-obama-gmo-bill-written-by-monsanto-signed-into-law/5329388
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Guru, the Lama
You seem uneducated about the differences between an anagarika, a shamanera and a bhikshu – even in the Theravada lineage. Also, I seen no evidence that Govinda lived in retreat for 3 years, 3 months, 3 days to complete the traditional ngondro preparatory practices of 100 thousand full-body prostrations/100, 000 Buddha-Dharma-Sangha refuges/100,000 mandala yajñas/100,000 guru-yoga visualization-recitations or the most important - 100,000 Vajrasattva mantra recitations. This is the minimum requirement to be entitled “Lama JoeBlow” and is really just considered a starting point only. It is only a sign that someone is serious about Vajrayana practice and is therefore worth a lineage guru’s time to train further. Furthermeans training in the generations stage yoga (utpattikrama/kye-rim) and the completion stage practices (sampannakrama/dzogrim). Such practices (plus Dzogchen) are the mainstay of Nyingma sadhana. You don’t get it by “psychically understanding symbols” from a Lama who is giving an abhishekam - as L.Govinda claimed to do. You might get lots of shakti but that is NOT jñâna.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
Point of order, Michael. The puja isn't made up. It is a collection of different traditional shuddhis including parts of the guru puja. Probably the only original part is that playing homage to Brahmananda Saraswati. On 05/29/2014 03:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: better results then than the 90% who witness Marshy's made up puja and later decide TM is not for them. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not? Mindfullness is getting quite popular but it's probably just a fad. I've met two who tried it, both claimed they only got a headache from it and no peacefulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 11:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. Mindfulness is meditation, a practice which involves thinking. The term mindfulness is really a misnomer because the whole idea of yogic meditation is to transcend the mind of discursive thinking and to experience emptiness. The goal of both mindfulness and meditation is yoga - the experience of /samadhi/. The potential problem with some teachers-student relationships is that the teacher may become the focus of the meditation and thus tend to keep the seeker on the conscious level of thinking - the meditation often becomes a form of /guru yoga/. For example, Fred Lenz used to put a framed photo Chinmoy on a coffee table and have his students meditate on the image, calling it The Transcendental. Apparently this had an adverse effect on some seekers. Go figure. My Guru, the Lama: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/367198 As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change?? http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
OK then, cobbled together from his own culture experience rather than being given him by Guru Dev - which so far as I know Marshy never said Guru Dev gave him the puja, but a whole lot of TM'ers believe he did and he allowed them to believe it. What I mean by made up is the idea that the puja was handed down from Shankara all the way to Marshy - his puja was something he made up, cobbled together from other pujas and done to legitimize what he was doing. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not? Point of order, Michael. The puja isn't made up. It is a collection of different traditional shuddhis including parts of the guru puja. Probably the only original part is that playing homage to Brahmananda Saraswati. On 05/29/2014 03:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: better results then than the 90% who witness Marshy's made up puja and later decide TM is not for them. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not? Mindfullness is getting quite popular but it's probably just a fad. I've met two who tried it, both claimed they only got a headache from it and no peacefulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 11:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. Mindfulness is meditation, a practice which involves thinking. The term mindfulness is really a misnomer because the whole idea of yogic meditation is to transcend the mind of discursive thinking and to experience emptiness. The goal of both mindfulness and meditation is yoga - the experience of samadhi. The potential problem with some teachers-student relationships is that the teacher may become the focus of the meditation and thus tend to keep the seeker on the conscious level of thinking - the meditation often becomes a form of guru yoga. For example, Fred Lenz used to put a framed photo Chinmoy on a coffee table and have his students meditate on the image, calling it The Transcendental. Apparently this had an adverse effect on some seekers. Go figure. My Guru, the Lama: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/367198 As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the
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So why are you here? And we aren't frustrated, nor are we afraid to call a fraud a fraud. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] India’s new PM, Narendra Modi is Yet Another Transcendental Meditation Celebrity - See more at: http://www.tminjobur g. co.za/indias-new-pm-narendra-modi-is-yet-ano the r-transcendental-meditation-celebrity MJ isn't the only quitter on this board, in fact the majority are. And they usually keep quitting until they have tasted the whole spiritual smorgasbord Having gained nothing they find their place around the table Rick Archer created for them to vent their frustrations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 1:29 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: This pot-smoking and tequila drinking fellow MJ in his trailer is scared that a TM-meditator will become the leader of a true Superpower. Well, to him and all others; welcome to the Age of Enlightenment ! It kind of looks like MJ at one time was a conservative, but he also wants to be a liberal. At any rate, if it has to do with TM or TMSP, he's against it. That's probably why he failed to complete a single course at MIU - he just can't seem to commit to anything for longer than a couple of years. It's probably a good thing he found FFL, so now he has something to do - maybe he can stick with it longer than he baked bread for the TMO. Go figure. This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active.
[FairfieldLife] Hah! The Govmint does as it pleases you can only just writhe.
Judge Andrew P. Napolitano http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness Judge Andrew P. Napolitano http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness What if the federal government is shameless? What if it personifies the adage of do as I say and not as I do? What if it does the very things it prosecutes others for doing? View on www.judgenap.com http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness Preview by Yahoo http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness
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On 5/29/2014 5:47 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I seen no evidence that Govinda lived in retreat for 3 years, 3 months, 3 days to complete the traditional ngondro preparatory practices of 100 thousand full-body prostrations/100, 000 Buddha-Dharma-Sangha refuges/100,000 mandala yajñas/100,000 guru-yoga visualization-recitations or the most important - 100,000 Vajrasattva mantra recitations. There are no initiations into the Kagyu order or any other Tibetan order. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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On 5/29/2014 5:47 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: You might get lots of shakti but that is NOT jñâna. There is no shakti in Tibetan Buddhism - that's a Hindu tantric term. A comparison of the Hindu Tantras with those of Buddhism (which are mostly preserved in Tibet and which therefore have long remained unnoticed by Indologists) not only shows an astonishing divergence of methods and aims, in spite of external similarities, but proves the spiritual and historical priority and originality of the Buddhist Tantras. Work cited: 'Creative Meditation and Multi-Dimensional Consciousness' by Lama Anagarika Govinda Quest Books, 1984 Pg 94 --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
On 5/29/2014 6:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Point of order, Michael. The puja isn't made up. It is a collection of different traditional shuddhis including parts of the guru puja. Probably the only original part is that playing homage to Brahmananda Saraswati. The TM puja has the exact same words as the puja recited by all the Saraswati dasnamis of the Shankaracharya Order, with the exception of the name of SBS, who was the Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. On 05/29/2014 03:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: better results then than the 90% who witness Marshy's made up puja and later decide TM is not for them. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
It's not uncommon to compose pujas by putting the different shuddhis together. Also one might learn how to do a short version too just including the essential parts. And yup, westerners didn't understand this and it's possible that MMY never considered they didn't understand something that many a street Indian would. On 05/29/2014 05:26 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK then, cobbled together from his own culture experience rather than being given him by Guru Dev - which so far as I know Marshy never said Guru Dev gave him the puja, but a whole lot of TM'ers believe he did and he allowed them to believe it. What I mean by made up is the idea that the puja was handed down from Shankara all the way to Marshy - his puja was something he made up, cobbled together from other pujas and done to legitimize what he was doing. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 7:14 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not? Point of order, Michael. The puja isn't made up. It is a collection of different traditional shuddhis including parts of the guru puja. Probably the only original part is that playing homage to Brahmananda Saraswati. On 05/29/2014 03:23 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: better results then than the 90% who witness Marshy's made up puja and later decide TM is not for them. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:22 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not? Mindfullness is getting quite popular but it's probably just a fad. I've met two who tried it, both claimed they only got a headache from it and no peacefulness. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 11:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. Mindfulness is meditation, a practice which involves thinking. The term mindfulness is really a misnomer because the whole idea of yogic meditation is to transcend the mind of discursive thinking and to experience emptiness. The goal of both mindfulness and meditation is yoga - the experience of /samadhi/. The potential problem with some teachers-student relationships is that the teacher may become the focus of the meditation and thus tend to keep the seeker on the conscious level of thinking - the meditation often becomes a form of /guru yoga/. For example, Fred Lenz used to put a framed photo Chinmoy on a coffee table and have his students meditate on the image, calling it The Transcendental. Apparently this had an adverse effect on some seekers. Go figure. My Guru, the Lama: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/367198 As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hah! The Govmint does as it pleases you can only just writhe.
And the government does whose bidding? Obviously not the people. But why doesn't Napolitano see beyond just the government? Because he's a fascist. On 05/29/2014 05:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Judge Andrew P. Napolitano http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness Judge Andrew P. Napolitano http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness What if the federal government is shameless? What if it personifies the adage of do as I say and not as I do? What if it does the very things it prosecutes others for doing? View on www.judgenap.com http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness Preview by Yahoo http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=another-week-of-government-lawlessness
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
On 5/29/2014 7:26 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK then, cobbled together from his own culture experience rather than being given him by Guru Dev - which so far as I know Marshy never said Guru Dev gave him the puja, but a whole lot of TM'ers believe he did and he allowed them to believe it. What I mean by made up is the idea that the puja was handed down from Shankara all the way to Marshy - his puja was something he made up, cobbled together from other pujas and done to legitimize what he was doing. According to Susan Schumsky, the TM puja is the same puja that was recited by SBS and the current Shakaracharya of Jyotirmath, Swami Vasudevananda Saraswati.. eki âvâhanam nârâyanaM padmabhavaM vashiSThaM shaktim ca tatputra parasharam ca vyâsaM shukam gauDapadaM mahântaM govinda yogîndra mathâsya shiSyam | shrî shankarâcâryamathâsya padmapâdan ca hastâmalakan ca shiSyam taM troTakam vârtikakâram anyânasmad gurûn santatamânato 'smi || shruti-smRti-purâNânam âlayam karuNâlayam | namâmi bhagavat-pâdam shankaraM lokashankaram || shankaraM shankarâcâryaM keshvaM bâdarâyaNam | sûtra-bhâSya-kRtau vande bhagavantau punaH punaH || yad-dvâre nikhilâ nilimpa-pariSad siddhiM vidhatte 'nisham shrîmat-shrî-lasitaM jagadgurupadaM natvâtmatRptiM gatâH | lokâjñâna payoDa-pâTân-dhuraM shrî shankaram sharmadaM brahmânanda sarasvatîm guruvaraM dhyâyâmi jyotirmayam || Transliterated from the Sanskrit by Borje Mullquist --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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On 5/29/2014 7:29 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So why are you here? And we aren't frustrated, nor are we afraid to call a fraud a fraud. The fraud is Michael Jackson - maybe he is afraid and frustrated - afraid his friends might find out he once joined a cult, so he uses the alias of a dead man; frustrated because he can't hold a simple Qi Chong pose. Go figure. *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:37 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] India’s new PM, Narendra Modi is Yet Another Transcendental Meditation Celebrity - See more at: http://www.tminjobur g. co.za/indias-new-pm-narendra-modi-is-yet-ano the r-transcendental-meditation-celebrity MJ isn't the only quitter on this board, in fact the majority are. And they usually keep quitting until they have tasted the whole spiritual smorgasbord Having gained nothing they find their place around the table Rick Archer created for them to vent their frustrations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/28/2014 1:29 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: This pot-smoking and tequila drinking fellow MJ in his trailer is scared that a TM-meditator will become the leader of a true Superpower. Well, to him and all others; welcome to the Age of Enlightenment ! It kind of looks like MJ at one time was a conservative, but he also wants to be a liberal. At any rate, if it has to do with TM or TMSP, he's against it. That's probably why he failed to complete a single course at MIU - he just can't seem to commit to anything for longer than a couple of years. It's probably a good thing he found FFL, so now he has something to do - /maybe he can stick with it longer than he baked bread for the TMO./ Go figure. http://www.avast.com/ This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/ protection is active. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
On 5/29/2014 8:06 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's not uncommon to compose pujas by putting the different shuddhis together. Also one might learn how to do a short version too just including the essential parts. And yup, westerners didn't understand this and it's possible that MMY never considered they didn't understand something that many a street Indian would. The TM puja lists the names of the teachers in the Shankaracharya tradition, so why would anyone make up names instead of reciting the traditional names of the Shankaracharyas? The TM teachers puja to SBS clearly states the names, from Shakti via the Jyotirlinga hence to Badarayana, to Gauda, to Govinda, hence to Shankara, founder of the Jyotirmatha, hence to Trotaka and on down to Brahmanand Saraswati and hence to Shantanand, hence to Vasudevananda Saraswati, the current Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. Narayana Padma Bhava Vasishtha Shakti Parashara Badarayana Shudadeva Gaudapapda Govinda Shankara Trotaka Brahmanand Shantanand Vishnudevananda Vasudevananda --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here. MMY said the US was the most creative country in the world, and we are, but he didn't say we were the most intelligent, and I get that too.:-) You are spot on about people who move from here, and are constantly running it down - Apt story - A fellow I knew in Hong Kong, in school - He hadn't been out of the US much, but always running it down - Granted, it was the '70's and the times they were a changin', but nonetheless, this fellow would never lose an opportunity to take a shot at the US - It felt like his personal vendetta. Fast forward about five years - I was living in Washington DC, and, as many of my friends in Hong Kong, and other countries, had fathers in various government positions, I would run into some of them, in DC. I met this guy - the anti-US guy, again. We had coffee, once. His entire conversation consisted of how f'd up the Chinese were, and he was glad to be home. Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Just to follow up on my comment, since I may not be able to do so later, I think what I am trying to say, is that you hear,or read interviews of people who have relocated from other countries, and they will often say, I miss my country. It is screwed up right now, but I'd like to go back, and there are many things I miss about it And these may be people from Afghanistan, or Iraq, or even Syria. You don't often get a fuck that country answer. Just sayin' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like the idea of living in what is considered the world leader in so many fields. But, it is not typical for an American to choose to live elsewhere, so that's why that question would come up. Or maybe its because an answer like duh sounds to me like you are trying to get a pat on the head, good boy. On the other hand, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. If I asked an xpat that question, and they answered in that way, I think I'd feel a little sorry for them. Like, sooner or later they are going to say the same thing about where they live now. n'est pas? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Perfect. All of this stuff sure makes it easier meeting new people in Europe and hearing, You're American? Why did you choose to live here? I just look at them and say, DUH! Nine out of ten times they laugh, because they get it completely. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything that was going to keep this guy from snapping and killing a lot of people if that’s what he really wanted.” At press time, residents of the only economically advanced nation in the world where roughly two mass shootings have occurred every month for the past five years were referring to themselves and their situation as “helpless.”
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
I agree that it has that potential, though I personally prefer the brute strength efficiency , of TM - unless under a trusted teacher's supervision, as mentioned below. As you say, the end result is fullness of mind, anyway, even when it is empty. Thanks for your tidbits on puja construction, too. The process of blending vibrations together, either as music or hymn, needs to have an element of respectful creativity, to adapt to the times, and the consciousness of the composer. BTW, I am a total of the MMY Puja - Exquisite. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Mindfulness is just another door to the same room. On 05/28/2014 09:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again
Right. It's like would you say, My mother is a loser? No you wouldn't. You might feel that your birth family is dysfunctional, you might feel that your mother has issues, but you still don't throw her under the bus. As Ann said, you take a moment to lay out the reasons why, in this case, you choose to live elsewhere. Loyalty counts for something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I completely agree, Steve. I have lived many places, other than the US, and as frustrated and alienated as I get with the US, I continue to feel a deep loyalty to the whole experiment and culture, here. MMY said the US was the most creative country in the world, and we are, but he didn't say we were the most intelligent, and I get that too.:-) You are spot on about people who move from here, and are constantly running it down - Apt story - A fellow I knew in Hong Kong, in school - He hadn't been out of the US much, but always running it down - Granted, it was the '70's and the times they were a changin', but nonetheless, this fellow would never lose an opportunity to take a shot at the US - It felt like his personal vendetta. Fast forward about five years - I was living in Washington DC, and, as many of my friends in Hong Kong, and other countries, had fathers in various government positions, I would run into some of them, in DC. I met this guy - the anti-US guy, again. We had coffee, once. His entire conversation consisted of how f'd up the Chinese were, and he was glad to be home. Go figure... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Just to follow up on my comment, since I may not be able to do so later, I think what I am trying to say, is that you hear,or read interviews of people who have relocated from other countries, and they will often say, I miss my country. It is screwed up right now, but I'd like to go back, and there are many things I miss about it And these may be people from Afghanistan, or Iraq, or even Syria. You don't often get a fuck that country answer. Just sayin' ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I don't know why it is that a describing an interaction like this strikes me as a bit weird. Maybe it's because when a person from another country chooses to live in the US, you sort of know why that is. You assume they like the idea of living in what is considered the world leader in so many fields. But, it is not typical for an American to choose to live elsewhere, so that's why that question would come up. Or maybe its because an answer like duh sounds to me like you are trying to get a pat on the head, good boy. On the other hand, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. If I asked an xpat that question, and they answered in that way, I think I'd feel a little sorry for them. Like, sooner or later they are going to say the same thing about where they live now. n'est pas? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Perfect. All of this stuff sure makes it easier meeting new people in Europe and hearing, You're American? Why did you choose to live here? I just look at them and say, DUH! Nine out of ten times they laugh, because they get it completely. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Onion nails it again An actual quote from the real world: your dead kids don’t trump my Constitutional rights -- Joe The Plumber, in open letter to the shooting victims' families http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/27/joe-the-plumber-guns_n_5397981.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens ISLA VISTA, CA—In the days following a violent rampage in southern California in which a lone attacker killed seven individuals, including himself, and seriously injured over a dozen others, citizens living in the only country where this kind of mass killing routinely occurs reportedly concluded Tuesday that there was no way to prevent the massacre from taking place. “This was a terrible tragedy, but sometimes these things just happen and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop them,” said North Carolina resident Samuel Wipper, echoing sentiments expressed by tens of millions of individuals who reside in a nation where over half of the world’s deadliest mass shootings have occurred in the past 50 years and whose citizens are 20 times more likely to die of gun violence than those of other developed nations. “It’s a shame, but what can we do? There really wasn’t anything
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
oops - should read: BTW, I am a total fan of the MMY Puja - Exquisite. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree that it has that potential, though I personally prefer the brute strength efficiency , of TM - unless under a trusted teacher's supervision, as mentioned below. As you say, the end result is fullness of mind, anyway, even when it is empty. Thanks for your tidbits on puja construction, too. The process of blending vibrations together, either as music or hymn, needs to have an element of respectful creativity, to adapt to the times, and the consciousness of the composer. BTW, I am a total of the MMY Puja - Exquisite. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Mindfulness is just another door to the same room. On 05/28/2014 09:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mindfulness; the Guru as mantra - Let 'er rip, or not?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : oops - should read: BTW, I am a total fan of the MMY Puja - Exquisite. Me too. And BTW, I have nothing interesting to say about mindfulness. I could talk about a personal relationship with a teacher but it doesn't relate to that and mindfulness juxtaposing together. I don't really even know what mindfulness means even though I looked it up. It doesn't really resonate with me as something you do as a separate practice from everyday life. Maybe I already incorporate it to the extent that it doesn't exist outside of me in a way that I have to consciously engage in it. Maybe you could speak more about what it is in your experience. What I could tell you about is demon hunting, however! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I agree that it has that potential, though I personally prefer the brute strength efficiency , of TM - unless under a trusted teacher's supervision, as mentioned below. As you say, the end result is fullness of mind, anyway, even when it is empty. Thanks for your tidbits on puja construction, too. The process of blending vibrations together, either as music or hymn, needs to have an element of respectful creativity, to adapt to the times, and the consciousness of the composer. BTW, I am a total of the MMY Puja - Exquisite. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Mindfulness is just another door to the same room. On 05/28/2014 09:37 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I was thinking about those here, that I know of - Barry, Barry2, and Anne - who have closely studied with a guru, or spiritual teacher, and how the concept, the practice of mindfulness, makes a lot of sense, in that context. As I have expressed before, I am not a big fan of mindfulness, as a meditation practice, on its own, eyes open, or closed, because to my way of thinking, it puts the cart before the horse. However, I can see the strong value in having a spiritual teacher that a person actually has a personal relationship with, combined with mindfulness. That way, the teacher is functioning, much like the correct use of the mantra, in TM - bringing the student to subtler levels and experiences, without the student having a say, in where they want to go (aka, take it easy, take it as it comes). Breaks boundaries, quickly. Seems to me, that the advantage, of a personal relationship, with a spiritual teacher, combined with mindfulness, if done right, would be big, dramatic breakthroughs, in many, many areas - much faster, than the gradual 'erosion' of the mantra - though possible not as comprehensive, either...Both of the Barrys have mentioned significant interactions, as a result of, both, their attention, or mindfulness, on where the guru was pointing, in addition to the strength of the experience, itself, as a result of the guru's proximity. A risky spiritual investment, with a potentially huge upside, and downside - an interesting way to roll. Barrys and Anne (and anyone else), any insights, comments, peanuts, popcorn, confetti, fun-fetti, hair-in-a-can, or spare change??
