[FairfieldLife] Existential Football
Soccer, to you Americans. This first one is actually pretty clever, but my bet is that almost everyone here except Curtis will have to click the Didn't get the joke? button at the bottom to get it. http://existentialcomics.com/comic/35 This one is specifically for the Americans and fans like myself, who are merely temporary fans, and will soon go back to not giving a shit. The Americans can do so now, because their team is already on the plane back home. Here in the Netherlands, temporary fans still have hope that the excuses for partying and nationalism will go on for a few more games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN1WN0YMWZU
[FairfieldLife] Violence makes you a better person!
'Bad' video game behavior increases players' moral sensitivity: May lead to pro-social behavior in real world http://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/bad-video-game-behavior-increases-players-moral-sensitivity-may-lead-to-pro-social-behavior-in-real-world/ http://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/bad-video-game-behavior-increases-players-moral-sensitivity-may-lead-to-pro-social-behavior-in-real-world/ 'Bad' video game behavior increases players'... http://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/bad-video-game-behavior-increases-players-moral-sensitivity-may-lead-to-pro-social-behavior-in-real-world/ By Science Daily New evidence suggests heinous behavior played out in a virtual environment can lead to players' increased sensitivity toward t... View on richarddawkins.net http://richarddawkins.net/2014/06/bad-video-game-behavior-increases-players-moral-sensitivity-may-lead-to-pro-social-behavior-in-real-world/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Existential Football
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Soccer, to you Americans. This first one is actually pretty clever, but my bet is that almost everyone here except Curtis will have to click the Didn't get the joke? button at the bottom to get it. Good find, I dimly remember that Monty Python did philosophers football sketch, I liked the adverts in the background too. Shall peruse the rest at my leisure but the next one is equally amusing: The Machine - Existential Comics http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 The Machine - Existential Comics http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 The Machine Permanent Link to this Comic: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 View on existentialcomics.com http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality continues. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 You betcha!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Difference Between Transcendental Meditation and
I was not speaking of colds and flu - I was speaking of chronic ailments, none of which are communicable. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Difference Between Transcendental Meditation and It's very typical to pick up diseases at any educational institution. Ask any parent. Once away from that environment unless you are working in a big corporation where the problem occurs too you will be less exposed to bugs. On 07/01/2014 07:20 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I never saw such a bunch of people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints as the people I knew at MIU. For a brief period I was at MIU, though I generally stayed away from the supposed cures for these things unless I could get it for free. I think I was sick there more. I got sick a lot less after I moved away. Part of the problem with illness I think was the constant influx of students from other countries, bringing in new variants of disease, and the fact that conventional medicine was frowned upon, and sidhas at least were 'encouraged' to do program together, a great way to spread disease in an enclosed space. Most non-serious illness clears up after a few days or a week or two. But then some guy tests your pulse, and recommends a wheelbarrow full of herbs, many of which you have to send away for and wait for a month to get and by that time whatever the diagnosis, whether it was simply fancy or real, the illness is gone. And then you start treatment. Great system. An acquaintance of mine once remarked that at a meeting of MIU and the towns people, he thought the women in town looked so much more radiant, healthier and alive than the ones on staff and faculty. I know people who take so many pills and nostrums they get ill from them. If you are in the nostrum business, 'people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints' can be described with a single word: PREY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. Give a man bread and you feed him for a day. Give a man a gun and others will feed him for a lifetime. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality continues. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 You betcha!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality continues. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 You betcha!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
as usual you don't know jack shit about what I did or didn't do, what I did or didn't believe. I most certainly DID believe that TM was the one true path as did most of the people I knew in my time with TM, not just at MIU. The folks who DIDN'T believe so were looked upon as being benighted, or not quite right. Gas is right - Marshy was a windbag full of gas, and he most certainly was not enlightened. Certainly not by his definition of it. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Jeez Michael, I never bought into the TMO claiming that TM was the only real spiritual path, and neither did you. The only thing you heard, and which was claimed, was that TM being an effortless procedure, was therefore the most natural, and therefore the most effective. Now, I am not making any conclusion about the efficacy of that claim. As others hear say, maybe TM is good beginner technique. It worked for me, and I've had nice experiences. That is all I care to say. Now, I get my spiritual kicks in other areas. Do I believe MMY achieved enlightenment? Yes, I do. Do I think things got strange at some point? Yes, again. Do I retain a warm spot for MMY? Yes. And it has grown over time, even though I have distanced myself from the whole tradition he is/was a part of. And it's been a gas! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : well its good to see you are not a complete Marshy sycophant because the Movement says that the only real spiritual path is TM - if one is not doing TM and TMSP REGULARLY one is not on a real spiritual path, according to them. So there may be some hope for you yet, not much but some, maybe. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday As usual Michael you seem unable to process anything between all good,or all bad. What you fail to understand is that people are own their own spiritual path. And just because they've gone in a different direction than where they started doesn't mean they discard or denigrate that initial impetus. It just means that their quest has taken a different turn. Really, it's not complicated, and most people understand that, unless of course they only look for some angle to continually demean a particular spiritual practice. As for the rest of what you say,it's the same we hear from you on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If you thought TM was worth a crap you would do it regularly. I have no fondness for nor affinity for people and organizations that are fraudulent and who function as abusers and thieves. Marshy and his big shot TM leaders have proven themselves to be all of the above. As to the technique, nothing special and the downside outweighs the benefits as I see it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Sure, you lay out all the flaws in the whole TM experience. No problem with that. What I perceive in your perspective and that of Edg's is a certain amount of bitterness. And I hope I am wrong. I also was all in during my time, as were many of my friends. Some have stayed all in, such as Tom Ball. But never did I swallow whole, all the grandiose claims. I was focused on the benefits I experienced. And I still am focused on that, even if I am not regular in the practice. And so, I am perplexed by the amount of (apparent, at least) animus you carry towards the whole thing. And Edg as well. I assume we all want to move forward, and we do it in different ways. I try not to be judgmental, but I guess I still am. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : what you consider blind spots - i.e. thinking the truth about Marshy and company, is actually a realist point of view. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday I'm not defending the TMO or Jerry, Michael. I'm just pointing out that the vocal accuser has his own skeletons. Sorry if you don't like that. And I guess, FWIW, that Edg suffers from some of same blind spots as you. Turn that any way you wish. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : why would you want him to do that? Aren't you too busy praying to Marshy and King Tony for salvation to care?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
I have to agree, Michael, having also grown up in the South. If you have any doubts that shanty towns still exist in America, all you have to do is watch True Detective, filmed in modern-day Louisiana. One of the most effective visual effects in the show was just to show miles and miles of such landscapes in aerial pan shots. They worked because it was good cinematography, but also because many of us in the audience were saying to ourselves, But wait...there aren't *really* places in America that look this poor, are there? There are. With regard to poverty elsewhere, I can speak from more recent experience about New Mexico. It is the second-poorest state in America, and it shows. The shacks in New Mexico may be made of adobe instead of found lumber, but that's only because mud is easier to find in the desert. The current percentage of people living below the poverty line in New Mexico is 19.5% If that figure surprises you, the same figure for the United States as a whole is 14.9%. The middle class is in some ways worse off, living with low salary levels that make working at McDonald's look like a good job. When I lived there, over 50% of the population had no health insurance and no auto insurance, because they couldn't afford to pay for that and also pay for rent and food. Living in Santa Fe, I *could* have remained unaware of how upscale it was, and how atypical of life in the rest of the state it was. But I chose to wander further, and thus drove, hiked, and rode horses through a lot of the desert on the outskirts of Santa Fe and in neighboring towns, and thus got a real education in what life in America is really about. America is all about *hiding* its poverty levels, and pretending that they don't exist. Thus it's easy to understand that many people who never leave their middle-class cocoons don't believe it exists. It exists. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. Give a man bread and you feed him for a day. Give a man a gun and others will feed him for a lifetime. Give a man a meditation technique to sell, and he will make all of his relatives back in India millionaires.
[FairfieldLife] King Lear: The Sequel
OK, here's a question for those closer to the action, TM-wise. Do you remember Maharishi's last days, when he was acting out his own version of Shakespeare's King Lear by having all the Rajas gazing at him over closed-circuit television vie with each other to see who was willing to pledge to build the biggest, tallest, and most phallic Tower Of Invincibility in his honor? I do. And as I remember it, several of these guys who had already paid a million bucks just to be in the room promised -- Goneril- and Regan-like -- to build these magnificent edifices. So did they ever get built? Other than at MUM and Vlodrop and probably at Maharishi's gravesite in India, did these guys follow through on their pledges to erect these testimonials to Maharishi? Just curious...
[FairfieldLife] Interspecies World Cup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KPzX8RXems
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Russell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/30/2014
The gross income of $ 50 million makes the TMO so successful that it makes the naysayers here go bananas, which I find interesting as it means they, mainly Buddhist's), measure success with $. They are so angry that the Turq had to post a long post about the matter :-) Net income is obviously less that $ 50 million, but minus 90% ? You would have to study the figures very closely to get to any conclusion at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Gross income from TM instruction in the USA for the Maharishi Foundation was far, FAR less than $50,000,000. About 1/10 that, and after paying TM teachers, advertising, etc., the MF netted about $800,000 for 2012. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : And are doing fine considering they made $ 50.000.000.- in 2012 and probably more in 2013 in the USA alone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : They're competing against organizations that will charge $125 for a weekend workshop. On 06/30/2014 10:33 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks for the update on the prices. They do seem to be getting pretty reasonable. What would $35/$75 in 1970 be in today’s dollars? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 12:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Russell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/30/2014 At the very end you allude to the fact that Peter and you are both former TM teachers, and you say that TM is too expensive? Maharishi set the price at $2500, but that price has steadily dropped. Now, it is quite possible to learn TM for free via the David Lynch Foundation, and David Lynch has made it perfectly clear that if you write (paper, not email) his organization and explain your financial situation, the DLF will help pay for TM instruction. Currently, unmodified, TM costs: $1680 for couples ($420 per month x4 months) $960 for adults (($240 per month x4 months) $360 for students ($90 per month x4 months) - local scholarships and grants from TM center - financial aid from David Lynch Foundation I know several people who ended up paying a small fraction of the official fee after they wrote directly to the DLF requesting financial aid. The interesting thing is that under the current organization guidelines, the TM teacher still gets paid their full share, even if the discounts make what the student pays far less than the teacher's cut (~$500 per adult or ~$300 per student). the creative financial crapola from 40+ years ago appears to have gone away. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : I find it amusing that both of you seem to have a very Maharishi-esque perspective about things but refuse to name him OR TM throughout the conversation. I also find it amusing that despite Russell's claim that he's interested in research on enlightenment, he appears completely unaware of the recent (past 30 years) research on pure consciousness and cosmic consciousness. I once asked him why he no longer did TM and he said that it was because he didn't become enlightened within the timeframe that Maharishi had promised... L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=310c9367eae=16e07f16fe. published 06/30/2014 238. Peter Russell Jun 29, 2014 10:34 pm | Rick Peter holds degrees in theoretical physics, experimental psychology, and computer science from the University of Cambridge, England, where he was a student of Stephen Hawking. Following university he went to India, to study meditation and Eastern philosophy. In the 1970s, … Continue reading → The post 238. Peter Russell appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump. comments http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=1821207882e=16e07f16fe | read more http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=963d5d6297e=16e07f16fe http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=a1a51a22e7e=16e07f16fe
[FairfieldLife] Re: End of Space and Time
Had time only for this drive by. I have no doubt that in reality the future will be vastly more surprising than anything I can imagine. The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. I have read and heard many attempts at a systematic account of it, from materialism and theosophy to the Christian system or that of Kant, and I have always felt that they were much too simple. I suspect that there are more things in heaven and earth that are dreamed of, or can be dreamed of, in any philosophy. That is the reason why I have no philosophy myself. ~ J. B. S. Haldane, (British geneticist and evolutionary biologist) in Possible Worlds The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine. ~ Arthur Stanley Eddington (astrophysicist and astronomer) Take care Share, I'll drop in a few weeks later. On 6/21/2014 10:05 AM, Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: In Plato's allegory of the cave, the shadows cast on the wall are illusions. When you leave the cave you can see the light of the sun, that is, illumination. The light of the sun is analogous to the Light of Gnosis, Transcendental Knowledge. Thus in Plato's allegory there is a dualism - the shadow world and the world of forms, which lie behind the appearance of the shadow world. The shadows are similar to the illusion cast by maya and the Light is the Absolute. Apparently, Plato drank deep at Indian wells. Go figure. We know Plato mainly through his description of the Forms and with the Allegory of the Cave a very powerful metaphor. As you may recall, Plato's allegory of the cave consists of a description of men and women who sit inside a cave facing a wall with a fire burning behind them. As they sit, they see shadows on the wall as forms pass between the fire and the wall. ALL the people look at the shadows, which they take to be the Real. What is this theory of forms? First, it is an answer to the challenge posed by the twin hypothesis that everything changes and that nothing does - that there must be an unchanging form if anything is to change at all. According to Plato, we must already know a great deal that we cannot wholly describe. This being so, maybe the comic anecdote about Thales was correct: Watching the sky he fell into a well; or perhaps he prognosticated a bumper crop. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave On Saturday, June 21, 2014 9:59 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/20/2014 7:38 PM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yes, it is similar to the difference between a person being asleep or awake - all energy in either potential, or active form. Even more intriguing to me, is the idea of detectable, but unobservable, 'dark matter', which is supposed to account for far more of the universe's energy, than the manifested bits we can see. In a sense we are all asleep - no one can see the totality of existence. We are awake most of the time but we can only perceive a very small part of the universe with the human eye or even with instruments. And, there seems to be a parallel universe inside our own minds that we can only get glimpses of. It may be that there is dark matter out there in the universe, but there could also be dark matter in our own brains. The universe out there may just be a shadow of what's inside our own minds. The 'shadow' is something the Perennial Philosophy of the world's great religions NEVER knew about. No mystical literature or scripture from any of the world's religions (both great and small) even realized human beings could and did hide significant aspects of their being and project them outward so as not to be seen... - T. J. Melody 'No Boundary: Eastern and Western Approaches to Personal Growth' by Ken Wilber Shambhala, 1979 Amazon review: http://tinyurl.com/plbuc96 On 6/20/2014 9:43 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, There's a story in the Srimad Bhagavatam stating that when Vishnu was sleeping in the causal ocean he would breathe out an infinite number of universes. And when he breathes in, all of the universes are annihilated as they enter his body. The cycle repeats until he wakes up. According to the Bhagwatam although Lord Vishnu *appears* to be a part of creation (prakriti) He is really existing in the *transcendental* field outside of space-time. That's why He is called the 'Transcendental Person.' This is a very subtle cosmology - Lord Krishna as an emanation of Vishnu is totally separate from the prakriti, but yet He *appears* to 'come down to earth', but in reality, He always remains the Transcendent. Vaishnavism is based on the Upanishads - all the Upanishadic thinkers were transcendentalists. I'm assuming that when he awakes he would be conversing with Laksmi, his consort, and that creation stops temporarily until he falls asleep
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
Are you talkin urban or rural? I think we've all seen scenes of rural poverty, both white and black. I would guess that in the country you are less accessible to the safety nets, but they are there nonetheless. As Jim has said, people do have access to food via food stamps and other private food banks, and shelters. I see that every day in the area I work. I don't see people starving. And now the govmint are taking steps to remove any stigma children had in eating free meals in school, as I understand it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality continues. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 You betcha!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
how many others had the impression, given by the TMO that TM was the one true path of spirituality? show of hands...almost no one? but always nice to know that I don't know jack shit about what you believe, but you know for certain MMY was not enlightened. You are funny guy Michael. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : as usual you don't know jack shit about what I did or didn't do, what I did or didn't believe. I most certainly DID believe that TM was the one true path as did most of the people I knew in my time with TM, not just at MIU. The folks who DIDN'T believe so were looked upon as being benighted, or not quite right. Gas is right - Marshy was a windbag full of gas, and he most certainly was not enlightened. Certainly not by his definition of it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Jeez Michael, I never bought into the TMO claiming that TM was the only real spiritual path, and neither did you. The only thing you heard, and which was claimed, was that TM being an effortless procedure, was therefore the most natural, and therefore the most effective. Now, I am not making any conclusion about the efficacy of that claim. As others hear say, maybe TM is good beginner technique. It worked for me, and I've had nice experiences. That is all I care to say. Now, I get my spiritual kicks in other areas. Do I believe MMY achieved enlightenment? Yes, I do. Do I think things got strange at some point? Yes, again. Do I retain a warm spot for MMY? Yes. And it has grown over time, even though I have distanced myself from the whole tradition he is/was a part of. And it's been a gas! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : well its good to see you are not a complete Marshy sycophant because the Movement says that the only real spiritual path is TM - if one is not doing TM and TMSP REGULARLY one is not on a real spiritual path, according to them. So there may be some hope for you yet, not much but some, maybe. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday As usual Michael you seem unable to process anything between all good,or all bad. What you fail to understand is that people are own their own spiritual path. And just because they've gone in a different direction than where they started doesn't mean they discard or denigrate that initial impetus. It just means that their quest has taken a different turn. Really, it's not complicated, and most people understand that, unless of course they only look for some angle to continually demean a particular spiritual practice. As for the rest of what you say,it's the same we hear from you on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If you thought TM was worth a crap you would do it regularly. I have no fondness for nor affinity for people and organizations that are fraudulent and who function as abusers and thieves. Marshy and his big shot TM leaders have proven themselves to be all of the above. As to the technique, nothing special and the downside outweighs the benefits as I see it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Sure, you lay out all the flaws in the whole TM experience. No problem with that. What I perceive in your perspective and that of Edg's is a certain amount of bitterness. And I hope I am wrong. I also was all in during my time, as were many of my friends. Some have stayed all in, such as Tom Ball. But never did I swallow whole, all the grandiose claims. I was focused on the benefits I experienced. And I still am focused on that, even if I am not regular in the practice. And so, I am perplexed by the amount of (apparent, at least) animus you carry towards the whole thing. And Edg as well. I assume we all want to move forward, and we do it in different ways. I try not to be judgmental, but I guess I still am. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : what you consider blind spots - i.e. thinking the truth about Marshy and company, is actually a realist point of view. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday I'm not defending the TMO or Jerry, Michael. I'm just pointing out that the vocal accuser has his own skeletons. Sorry if you don't like
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interspecies World Cup
very funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KPzX8RXems https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KPzX8RXems
[FairfieldLife] The Yeti exists!
I had been waiting for this news for over 10 years, ever since I saw an awesome documentary about a Yeti hunter in Bhutan. This guy was searching the endless northern forests and had met a Bhutanese government Yeti expert who even knew where they lived. All seemed too good to be true but they trekked off, with winter closing in, up to the high Himalaya where the guide led them to a huge hollow tree in the middle of a clearing. It was creepy beyond words but they silently crept round the trunk, half expecting a giant hairy man-ape to leap out and tear them apart. It was empty but it was obviously inhabited as they found some hairs inside, the English guy collected some with follicles still attached and took them home to be tested. He assumed they were of a big cat or wolf but was amazed to find that they couldn't be traced to any known animal. Until now. DNA study shows yeti is real (sort of) – and Oxford scientist prepares expedition to find it http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dna-study-shows-yeti-is-real-sort-of--and-oxford-scientist-prepares-expedition-to-find-it-9577991.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dna-study-shows-yeti-is-real-sort-of--and-oxford-scientist-prepares-expedition-to-find-it-9577991.html DNA study shows yeti is real (sort of) – and Oxford scie... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dna-study-shows-yeti-is-real-sort-of--and-oxford-scientist-prepares-expedition-to-find-it-9577991.html An Oxford scientist has discovered the world’s first verified DNA evidence that the “yeti” exists – albeit not quite in the monstrous, manlike form of legend. View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dna-study-shows-yeti-is-real-sort-of--and-oxford-scientist-prepares-expedition-to-find-it-9577991.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Yeti exists!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZrQQ7i_lY From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Yeti exists! I had been waiting for this news for over 10 years, ever since I saw an awesome documentary about a Yeti hunter in Bhutan. This guy was searching the endless northern forests and had met a Bhutanese government Yeti expert who even knew where they lived. All seemed too good to be true but they trekked off, with winter closing in, up to the high Himalaya where the guide led them to a huge hollow tree in the middle of a clearing. It was creepy beyond words but they silently crept round the trunk, half expecting a giant hairy man-ape to leap out and tear them apart. It was empty but it was obviously inhabited as they found some hairs inside, the English guy collected some with follicles still attached and took them home to be tested. He assumed they were of a big cat or wolf but was amazed to find that they couldn't be traced to any known animal. Until now. DNA study shows yeti is real (sort of) – and Oxford scientist prepares expedition to find it DNA study shows yeti is real (sort of) – and Oxford scie... An Oxford scientist has discovered the world’s first verified DNA evidence that the “yeti” exists – albeit not quite in the monstrous, manlike form of legend. View on www.independent.co.uk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
In the town I grew up, Laurens, SC there were tin roofed unpainted shacks inhabited by black people literally within a few minutes walk from the big fancy houses of some of the wealthiest people in town. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it I have to agree, Michael, having also grown up in the South. If you have any doubts that shanty towns still exist in America, all you have to do is watch True Detective, filmed in modern-day Louisiana. One of the most effective visual effects in the show was just to show miles and miles of such landscapes in aerial pan shots. They worked because it was good cinematography, but also because many of us in the audience were saying to ourselves, But wait...there aren't *really* places in America that look this poor, are there? There are. With regard to poverty elsewhere, I can speak from more recent experience about New Mexico. It is the second-poorest state in America, and it shows. The shacks in New Mexico may be made of adobe instead of found lumber, but that's only because mud is easier to find in the desert. The current percentage of people living below the poverty line in New Mexico is 19.5% If that figure surprises you, the same figure for the United States as a whole is 14.9%. The middle class is in some ways worse off, living with low salary levels that make working at McDonald's look like a good job. When I lived there, over 50% of the population had no health insurance and no auto insurance, because they couldn't afford to pay for that and also pay for rent and food. Living in Santa Fe, I *could* have remained unaware of how upscale it was, and how atypical of life in the rest of the state it was. But I chose to wander further, and thus drove, hiked, and rode horses through a lot of the desert on the outskirts of Santa Fe and in neighboring towns, and thus got a real education in what life in America is really about. America is all about *hiding* its poverty levels, and pretending that they don't exist. Thus it's easy to understand that many people who never leave their middle-class cocoons don't believe it exists. It exists. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence,
Re: [FairfieldLife] King Lear: The Sequel
I am sure they kept their promises as well as Marshy kept all of his. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] King Lear: The Sequel OK, here's a question for those closer to the action, TM-wise. Do you remember Maharishi's last days, when he was acting out his own version of Shakespeare's King Lear by having all the Rajas gazing at him over closed-circuit television vie with each other to see who was willing to pledge to build the biggest, tallest, and most phallic Tower Of Invincibility in his honor? I do. And as I remember it, several of these guys who had already paid a million bucks just to be in the room promised -- Goneril- and Regan-like -- to build these magnificent edifices. So did they ever get built? Other than at MUM and Vlodrop and probably at Maharishi's gravesite in India, did these guys follow through on their pledges to erect these testimonials to Maharishi? Just curious...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
My experience is in small towns about like Fairfield population-wise, maybe 8,000 - 10,000 people. Same for the rural areas, but the juxtaposition is much more stark in the towns where as I mentioned in another post that you have shacks within walking distance of mansions. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it Are you talkin urban or rural? I think we've all seen scenes of rural poverty, both white and black. I would guess that in the country you are less accessible to the safety nets, but they are there nonetheless. As Jim has said, people do have access to food via food stamps and other private food banks, and shelters. I see that every day in the area I work. I don't see people starving. And now the govmint are taking steps to remove any stigma children had in eating free meals in school, as I understand it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality continues. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 You betcha!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
You have been wearing some major blinders! Marshy said TM was superior in so many different ways. I am guessing that you refuse to acknowledge that fact so you don't have to deal with the two disparate pieces of information. On the one hand you believe Marshy to have been enlightened. On the other, if you acknowledged it, he said TM was better than all the rest and the only really effective and reliable way to nirvana. So if you admitted he took that position, you have to deal with the fact that an enlightened man told lies, (since you don't believe TM is the only path) or that he was not enlightened. I will tell you the way to work it out. While TM has beneficial effects for some practitioners, most cease the practice within a few months. TM is not the jet plane to enlightenment Marshy claimed it was, and Marshy was a liar, a con artist and an unenlightened jack ass. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday how many others had the impression, given by the TMO that TM was the one true path of spirituality? show of hands...almost no one? but always nice to know that I don't know jack shit about what you believe, but you know for certain MMY was not enlightened. You are funny guy Michael. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : as usual you don't know jack shit about what I did or didn't do, what I did or didn't believe. I most certainly DID believe that TM was the one true path as did most of the people I knew in my time with TM, not just at MIU. The folks who DIDN'T believe so were looked upon as being benighted, or not quite right. Gas is right - Marshy was a windbag full of gas, and he most certainly was not enlightened. Certainly not by his definition of it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Jeez Michael, I never bought into the TMO claiming that TM was the only real spiritual path, and neither did you. The only thing you heard, and which was claimed, was that TM being an effortless procedure, was therefore the most natural, and therefore the most effective. Now, I am not making any conclusion about the efficacy of that claim. As others hear say, maybe TM is good beginner technique. It worked for me, and I've had nice experiences. That is all I care to say. Now, I get my spiritual kicks in other areas. Do I believe MMY achieved enlightenment? Yes, I do. Do I think things got strange at some point? Yes, again. Do I retain a warm spot for MMY? Yes. And it has grown over time, even though I have distanced myself from the whole tradition he is/was a part of. And it's been a gas! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : well its good to see you are not a complete Marshy sycophant because the Movement says that the only real spiritual path is TM - if one is not doing TM and TMSP REGULARLY one is not on a real spiritual path, according to them. So there may be some hope for you yet, not much but some, maybe. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday As usual Michael you seem unable to process anything between all good,or all bad. What you fail to understand is that people are own their own spiritual path. And just because they've gone in a different direction than where they started doesn't mean they discard or denigrate that initial impetus. It just means that their quest has taken a different turn. Really, it's not complicated, and most people understand that, unless of course they only look for some angle to continually demean a particular spiritual practice. As for the rest of what you say,it's the same we hear from you on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If you thought TM was worth a crap you would do it regularly. I have no fondness for nor affinity for people and organizations that are fraudulent and who function as abusers and thieves. Marshy and his big shot TM leaders have proven themselves to be all of the above. As to the technique, nothing special and the downside outweighs the benefits as I see it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Sure, you lay out all the flaws in the whole TM experience. No problem with that. What I perceive
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
Since this thread began as Jerry Jarvis' Birthday, I will just offer this little bit of info. I got a phone call last might from my friend Bill who had a half dozen or so long phone conversations with Jerry Jarvis over the last few months. One of the last talks he had, Bill asked him if he were enlightened and Jerry replied Well, I am of the old school about that, that's just something we don't talk about. Hearing this, Bill related to him his experience in seeing Charlie Lutes in Raleigh, NC in the early 1970's. During Charlie's lecture someone asked him if he was enlightened himself and Charlie said that he was, and that he was in God Consciousness. Upon hearing that Jerry expressed surprise and sort of laughed it off, but Bill said one got the feeling Jerry felt Charlie may have been fudging a bit. From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday how many others had the impression, given by the TMO that TM was the one true path of spirituality? show of hands...almost no one? but always nice to know that I don't know jack shit about what you believe, but you know for certain MMY was not enlightened. You are funny guy Michael. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : as usual you don't know jack shit about what I did or didn't do, what I did or didn't believe. I most certainly DID believe that TM was the one true path as did most of the people I knew in my time with TM, not just at MIU. The folks who DIDN'T believe so were looked upon as being benighted, or not quite right. Gas is right - Marshy was a windbag full of gas, and he most certainly was not enlightened. Certainly not by his definition of it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Jeez Michael, I never bought into the TMO claiming that TM was the only real spiritual path, and neither did you. The only thing you heard, and which was claimed, was that TM being an effortless procedure, was therefore the most natural, and therefore the most effective. Now, I am not making any conclusion about the efficacy of that claim. As others hear say, maybe TM is good beginner technique. It worked for me, and I've had nice experiences. That is all I care to say. Now, I get my spiritual kicks in other areas. Do I believe MMY achieved enlightenment? Yes, I do. Do I think things got strange at some point? Yes, again. Do I retain a warm spot for MMY? Yes. And it has grown over time, even though I have distanced myself from the whole tradition he is/was a part of. And it's been a gas! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : well its good to see you are not a complete Marshy sycophant because the Movement says that the only real spiritual path is TM - if one is not doing TM and TMSP REGULARLY one is not on a real spiritual path, according to them. So there may be some hope for you yet, not much but some, maybe. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday As usual Michael you seem unable to process anything between all good,or all bad. What you fail to understand is that people are own their own spiritual path. And just because they've gone in a different direction than where they started doesn't mean they discard or denigrate that initial impetus. It just means that their quest has taken a different turn. Really, it's not complicated, and most people understand that, unless of course they only look for some angle to continually demean a particular spiritual practice. As for the rest of what you say,it's the same we hear from you on a daily basis. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : If you thought TM was worth a crap you would do it regularly. I have no fondness for nor affinity for people and organizations that are fraudulent and who function as abusers and thieves. Marshy and his big shot TM leaders have proven themselves to be all of the above. As to the technique, nothing special and the downside outweighs the benefits as I see it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Sure, you lay out all the flaws in the whole TM experience. No problem with that. What I perceive in your perspective and that of Edg's is a certain amount of
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On 7/2/2014 4:50 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. You two guys don't seem to be very concerned about the 50,000 starving American children and mothers now housed in shelters after escaping starvation conditions in Central America recently. Maybe you are more concerned about Hobby Lobby. Apparently you don't have all the answers. Go figure. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/388708 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality continues. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 You betcha!
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I would have to say Fleetwood, that you have never been to India then, because a good many of the so-called sadhus are able bodied men who beg every day. They are not real spiritual aspirants but lazy buggers who don't want to do anything but lay around and scratch themselves and have others give them everything they need. I do not base this on supposition but on conversations with educated Indians I have met here in the US who were raised in India and later immigrated to the US. Also I have read that same thing by writers such as Deepak Chopra. From: 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it On 7/2/2014 4:50 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. You two guys don't seem to be very concerned about the 50,000 starving American children and mothers now housed in shelters after escaping starvation conditions in Central America recently. Maybe you are more concerned about Hobby Lobby. Apparently you don't have all the answers. Go figure. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/388708 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
Assuming you live in one of the rented shacks, but some children don't even have a shack to live in. You seem very concerned about the dead Maharishi, but not very concerned about the starving children being held at the U.S. - Mexican border. Go figure. On 7/2/2014 7:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: My experience is in small towns about like Fairfield population-wise, maybe 8,000 - 10,000 people. Same for the rural areas, but the juxtaposition is much more stark in the towns where as I mentioned in another post that you have shacks within walking distance of mansions. *From:* steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:45 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it Are you talkin urban or rural? I think we've all seen scenes of rural poverty, both white and black. I would guess that in the country you are less accessible to the safety nets, but they are there nonetheless. As Jim has said, people do have access to food via food stamps and other private food banks, and shelters. I see that every day in the area I work. I don't see people starving. And now the govmint are taking steps to remove any stigma children had in eating free meals in school, as I understand it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. *From:* fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they
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Apparently you and Rama each had a big pad in Sante Fe and Rama drove a Mercedes you helped pay for. Why didn't you Rama srtudents donate to a real charity instead of giving all that money to Lenz? Just the other day you were casting aspersions at everyone else here about the TMO not donating anything to people in need. You've never made any claims, that I'm aware of, about making any charitable donations. Go figure. I've been donating to the Red Cross for over fifty years. On 7/2/2014 5:54 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree, Michael, having also grown up in the South. If you have any doubts that shanty towns still exist in America, all you have to do is watch True Detective, filmed in modern-day Louisiana. One of the most effective visual effects in the show was just to show miles and miles of such landscapes in aerial pan shots. They worked because it was good cinematography, but also because many of us in the audience were saying to ourselves, But wait...there aren't *really* places in America that look this poor, are there? There are. With regard to poverty elsewhere, I can speak from more recent experience about New Mexico. It is the second-poorest state in America, and it shows. The shacks in New Mexico may be made of adobe instead of found lumber, but that's only because mud is easier to find in the desert. The current percentage of people living below the poverty line in New Mexico is 19.5% If that figure surprises you, the same figure for the United States as a whole is 14.9%. The middle class is in some ways worse off, living with low salary levels that make working at McDonald's look like a good job. When I lived there, over 50% of the population had no health insurance and no auto insurance, because they couldn't afford to pay for that and also pay for rent and food. Living in Santa Fe, I *could* have remained unaware of how upscale it was, and how atypical of life in the rest of the state it was. But I chose to wander further, and thus drove, hiked, and rode horses through a lot of the desert on the outskirts of Santa Fe and in neighboring towns, and thus got a real education in what life in America is really about. America is all about *hiding* its poverty levels, and pretending that they don't exist. Thus it's easy to understand that many people who never leave their middle-class cocoons don't believe it exists. It exists. *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:05 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. *From:* fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000!
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : I have to agree, Michael, having also grown up in the South. If you have any doubts that shanty towns still exist in America, all you have to do is watch True Detective, filmed in modern-day Louisiana. One of the most effective visual effects in the show was just to show miles and miles of such landscapes in aerial pan shots. They worked because it was good cinematography, but also because many of us in the audience were saying to ourselves, But wait...there aren't *really* places in America that look this poor, are there? Typical, get your information from a TV show. There are. With regard to poverty elsewhere, I can speak from more recent experience about New Mexico. It is the second-poorest state in America, and it shows. The shacks in New Mexico may be made of adobe instead of found lumber, but that's only because mud is easier to find in the desert. Recent? When was the last time you were living there? The current percentage of people living below the poverty line in New Mexico is 19.5% If that figure surprises you, the same figure for the United States as a whole is 14.9%. The middle class is in some ways worse off, living with low salary levels that make working at McDonald's look like a good job. When I lived there, over 50% of the population had no health insurance and no auto insurance, because they couldn't afford to pay for that and also pay for rent and food. Here is an interesting fact sheet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in_poverty http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in_poverty Also interesting to note that poverty is defined by earning between $1.25 and $2 per day. But of course it is way more complex than that and poverty can be defined as much more than money-based life situations. Living in Santa Fe, I *could* have remained unaware of how upscale it was, and how atypical of life in the rest of the state it was. But I chose to wander further, and thus drove, hiked, and rode horses through a lot of the desert on the outskirts of Santa Fe and in neighboring towns, and thus got a real education in what life in America is really about. America is all about *hiding* its poverty levels, and pretending that they don't exist. Thus it's easy to understand that many people who never leave their middle-class cocoons don't believe it exists. Where did you get this theory? Deep poverty is everywhere and everyone knows this. But poverty-stricken people in the US and in first world countries is particularly ugly because it shouldn't be like that, there are resources everywhere and human rights and privileges are far less censured here than in many other countries where war, corruption and tyranny is rampant. Poverty in the US seems so much more of a crime because there is plenty everywhere and yet the educational (lack of education) and the ethnicity factors exacerbate the problem, not to mention substance abuse issues. It exists. D-uh. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM,
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On 7/2/2014 5:05 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. Maybe you should move to a larger town like Charlotte where you can find employment. Maybe take a course at a community college and learn a skill other than baking. Why don't you move over to Rock Hill and get a job at Domtaor? If you need a few dollars until you find another job, maybe I could send you a few bucks. You suck as an informant, but I don't want to see you starving. Let me know. *From:* fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except those on the bottom end. And even they have food to eat. Am I being callous, or just realistic? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Billionaire Nick Hanauer thinks that a revolution could occur in the good ol' US if inequality continues. http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28068277 You betcha!
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Nope, no interest at all to go there, either. When I lived in SE Asia, most people were very poor and we frequently helped out the beggars when we could - they even stole our dog and when we refused to pay the ransom, for the third time, they ate it. That is real poverty, and I don't see anything approaching it, here. Not even close. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I would have to say Fleetwood, that you have never been to India then, because a good many of the so-called sadhus are able bodied men who beg every day. They are not real spiritual aspirants but lazy buggers who don't want to do anything but lay around and scratch themselves and have others give them everything they need. I do not base this on supposition but on conversations with educated Indians I have met here in the US who were raised in India and later immigrated to the US. Also I have read that same thing by writers such as Deepak Chopra. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it On 7/2/2014 4:50 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. You two guys don't seem to be very concerned about the 50,000 starving American children and mothers now housed in shelters after escaping starvation conditions in Central America recently. Maybe you are more concerned about Hobby Lobby. Apparently you don't have all the answers. Go figure. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/388708 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/388708 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed? Revolutions are fomented by the young, not old farts like us. And when they can't get jobs after racking up a huge college loan the shit will hit the fan. Believe me. Now, I mentioned a solution earlier. Check it out. Mikey won't like it though. :-D On 06/30/2014 05:43 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I think he's wrong. In the past people didn't have food to eat. Now we have food to eat, reasonable shelter, and entertainment galore. What are they going to get up in arms about? That that super rich are able to eat better food, travel more, have luxurious accommodations, or are able to attend sporting events in person when everyone else has to watch them on a flat screen, high definition TV? Relatively speaking, everyone here has it reasonable well, except
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Just to follow up, yes, in Indonesia, that inequality, along with some Cold War power plays, did spark a rebellion in the mid-60's (I was there at the beginning, before being evacuated), in which two million mostly ethnic Chinese, were slaughtered. They were the ones controlling the commerce, and were easy targets. Also saw uprisings in the Philippines and Hong Kong, though for different reasons. The US has a safety net, however frayed, that is entirely non-existent in these other countries. No food stamps, no food banks, no SS or disability payments no emergency room, no homeless shelters - basically nothing. So, yes, we undoubtedly have very poor people here but conditions for a revolution? Not even a remote possibility, from what I see. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Nope, no interest at all to go there, either. When I lived in SE Asia, most people were very poor and we frequently helped out the beggars when we could - they even stole our dog and when we refused to pay the ransom, for the third time, they ate it. That is real poverty, and I don't see anything approaching it, here. Not even close. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I would have to say Fleetwood, that you have never been to India then, because a good many of the so-called sadhus are able bodied men who beg every day. They are not real spiritual aspirants but lazy buggers who don't want to do anything but lay around and scratch themselves and have others give them everything they need. I do not base this on supposition but on conversations with educated Indians I have met here in the US who were raised in India and later immigrated to the US. Also I have read that same thing by writers such as Deepak Chopra. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it On 7/2/2014 4:50 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. You two guys don't seem to be very concerned about the 50,000 starving American children and mothers now housed in shelters after escaping starvation conditions in Central America recently. Maybe you are more concerned about Hobby Lobby. Apparently you don't have all the answers. Go figure. https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/388708 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/388708 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000! Sheer insanity - no one can begin, even a professional career, with such a burden of debt. There is so much padding in this country, economically, that we are a long way from civil violence, but dysfunctional elements in our higher education system don't help. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : You haven't been reading about the increasing food prices? Where do you live? In some big retirement community where everyone is flush and doesn't understand why people are getting pissed?
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Richard, I love this photo, thanks for posting it (-: On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 9:08 PM, Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On Saturday June 28, 2014, we went to see Los #3 Dinners play at The Olmos Pharmacy in San Antonio, Texas Inside the Olmos Pharmacy, Saturday June 28, 2014, San Antonio, Texas http://youtu.be/0VN25WLOSCc http://www.olmosbharmacy.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Difference Between Transcendental Meditation and
On 7/1/2014 9:20 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I never saw such a bunch of people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints as the people I knew at MIU. For a brief period I was at MIU, though I generally stayed away from the supposed cures for these things unless I could get it for free. I think I was sick there more. I got sick a lot less after I moved away. Part of the problem with illness I think was the constant influx of students from other countries, bringing in new variants of disease, and the fact that conventional medicine was frowned upon, and sidhas at least were 'encouraged' to do program together, a great way to spread disease in an enclosed space. Most non-serious illness clears up after a few days or a week or two. But then some guy tests your pulse, and recommends a wheelbarrow full of herbs, many of which you have to send away for and wait for a month to get and by that time whatever the diagnosis, whether it was simply fancy or real, the illness is gone. And then you start treatment. Great system. An acquaintance of mine once remarked that at a meeting of MIU and the towns people, he thought the women in town looked so much more radiant, healthier and alive than the ones on staff and faculty. I know people who take so many pills and nostrums they get ill from them. If you are in the nostrum business, 'people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints' can be described with a single word: PREY. Or, you could just call them customers. You could say that some people just want to try alternative ways to promote their own health. For example, MJ believes in labeling some foods as GMO's - that's his opinion, but I wouldn't think he's preying on me if I don't agree.
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John, I love it when I need a jacket or sweater or hoodie (-: And I needed one this morning going to the Dome, a brisk 62F. Yay! I hope to visit SF some day and I'd really love to see Carmel, really all of CA. On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:30 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, If you plan to visit SF during the summer time, you can wear flowers in your hair but make sure to bring your sweater and jacket because it gets cold and foggy over here at that time. The weather gets better in September. Peace and Blessings ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a very full day. In more ways than one (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Difference Between Transcendental Meditation and
On 7/1/2014 9:29 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's very typical to pick up diseases at any educational institution. Ask any parent. Once away from that environment unless you are working in a big corporation where the problem occurs too you will be less exposed to bugs. Maybe you failed to realize that the statements were aimed at the MIU /foreign students/ - the ones with the phobias and syndromes. It's still surprising to find people so prejudiced against Indians and Indian students. I can't figure it out. Maybe they don't even realize how prejudiced some of their statements sound. Go figure. On 07/01/2014 07:20 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I never saw such a bunch of people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints as the people I knew at MIU. For a brief period I was at MIU, though I generally stayed away from the supposed cures for these things unless I could get it for free. I think I was sick there more. I got sick a lot less after I moved away. Part of the problem with illness I think was the constant influx of students from other countries, bringing in new variants of disease, and the fact that conventional medicine was frowned upon, and sidhas at least were 'encouraged' to do program together, a great way to spread disease in an enclosed space. Most non-serious illness clears up after a few days or a week or two. But then some guy tests your pulse, and recommends a wheelbarrow full of herbs, many of which you have to send away for and wait for a month to get and by that time whatever the diagnosis, whether it was simply fancy or real, the illness is gone. And then you start treatment. Great system. An acquaintance of mine once remarked that at a meeting of MIU and the towns people, he thought the women in town looked so much more radiant, healthier and alive than the ones on staff and faculty. I know people who take so many pills and nostrums they get ill from them. If you are in the nostrum business, 'people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints' can be described with a single word: PREY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
Perhaps the MJ-fellow put some special ingredients in the dough :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : It's not very difficult to understand why you got kicked off staff at MUM and why you'd be posting anonymously after twenty years. I wonder if you sucked as a baker or it was your mouth that got you fired? Go figure. On 7/2/2014 7:41 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: You have been wearing some major blinders! Marshy said TM was superior in so many different ways. I am guessing that you refuse to acknowledge that fact so you don't have to deal with the two disparate pieces of information. On the one hand you believe Marshy to have been enlightened. On the other, if you acknowledged it, he said TM was better than all the rest and the only really effective and reliable way to nirvana. So if you admitted he took that position, you have to deal with the fact that an enlightened man told lies, (since you don't believe TM is the only path) or that he was not enlightened. I will tell you the way to work it out. While TM has beneficial effects for some practitioners, most cease the practice within a few months. TM is not the jet plane to enlightenment Marshy claimed it was, and Marshy was a liar, a con artist and an unenlightened jack ass. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday how many others had the impression, given by the TMO that TM was the one true path of spirituality? show of hands...almost no one? but always nice to know that I don't know jack shit about what you believe, but you know for certain MMY was not enlightened. You are funny guy Michael. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : as usual you don't know jack shit about what I did or didn't do, what I did or didn't believe. I most certainly DID believe that TM was the one true path as did most of the people I knew in my time with TM, not just at MIU. The folks who DIDN'T believe so were looked upon as being benighted, or not quite right. Gas is right - Marshy was a windbag full of gas, and he most certainly was not enlightened. Certainly not by his definition of it. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday Jeez Michael, I never bought into the TMO claiming that TM was the only real spiritual path, and neither did you. The only thing you heard, and which was claimed, was that TM being an effortless procedure, was therefore the most natural, and therefore the most effective. Now, I am not making any conclusion about the efficacy of that claim. As others hear say, maybe TM is good beginner technique. It worked for me, and I've had nice experiences. That is all I care to say. Now, I get my spiritual kicks in other areas. Do I believe MMY achieved enlightenment? Yes, I do. Do I think things got strange at some point? Yes, again. Do I retain a warm spot for MMY? Yes. And it has grown over time, even though I have distanced myself from the whole tradition he is/was a part of. And it's been a gas! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : well its good to see you are not a complete Marshy sycophant because the Movement says that the only real spiritual path is TM - if one is not doing TM and TMSP REGULARLY one is not on a real spiritual path, according to them. So there may be some hope for you yet, not much but some, maybe. From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday As usual Michael you seem unable to process anything between all good,or all bad. What you fail to understand is that people are own their own spiritual path. And just because they've gone in a different direction than where they started doesn't mean they discard or denigrate that initial impetus. It just means that their quest has taken a different turn. Really, it's not complicated, and most people understand that, unless of course they only look for some angle to continually demean a particular spiritual practice. As for the rest of
[FairfieldLife] Founder of ex-amma group apologizes
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerry Jarvis' Birthday
I remember the baker at Livingston Manor in 77/78, a really nice fellow by the name of Barry. I was night watchman for awhile there, and so I'd hang out with Barry as he baked his bread in the early morning, and had plenty of samples. Also developed a serious addiction to oranges, there, and ping-pong. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Perhaps the MJ-fellow put some special ingredients in the dough :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : It's not very difficult to understand why you got kicked off staff at MUM and why you'd be posting anonymously after twenty years. I wonder if you sucked as a baker or it was your mouth that got you fired? Go figure. sniperoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Difference Between Transcendental Meditation and
On 7/1/2014 10:00 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As meditation(s) original intent was an aid to enlightenment, and physiological changes that result from various form of meditation can be a by-product, the idea that meditation should be promoted as a health nostrum really seems to me to betray its original purpose. While you might feel better if you got enlightened, that would be a completely secondary or tertiary by-product. According to the founder of the yoga tradition in India, the historical Buddha attested many times to having wasted over five years practicing asceticism - a futile pursuit - it was only after he took adequate nourishment that he found the physical and mental strength to pursue his goal of enlightenment. Apparently after his realization, his body continued to function better when it was nourished and exercised properly. So, there may be a direct correlation to health and gaining enlightenment. Suppose you meditated for 30 years, and as a result of heavy smoking early in life you got lung cancer, and the day you got enlightened was the day after you got your final dose of chemotherapy before you died just a few weeks later. Probably you wouldn't feel better, but the joke could hardly be brought home more succinctly. Probably you won't get enlightened if you only regard TM and other meditations simply as a way to feel better or somehow fix yourself into being what you imagine is a better, more competent person, and are not concerned about the spiritual dimension of these processes, and what they really portend. Not very many teachers really go into what these processes are going to do to your mental world, to prepare you for what might happen. Some breeze by for sure, while others can really be miserable for a long, long time when engaged with these practices. And in spite of cover-ups, we know TM and its related mental technologies are not immune to these more trying effects. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It's very typical to pick up diseases at any educational institution. Ask any parent. Once away from that environment unless you are working in a big corporation where the problem occurs too you will be less exposed to bugs. On 07/01/2014 07:20 PM, anartaxius@... mailto:anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : I never saw such a bunch of people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints as the people I knew at MIU. For a brief period I was at MIU, though I generally stayed away from the supposed cures for these things unless I could get it for free. I think I was sick there more. I got sick a lot less after I moved away. Part of the problem with illness I think was the constant influx of students from other countries, bringing in new variants of disease, and the fact that conventional medicine was frowned upon, and sidhas at least were 'encouraged' to do program together, a great way to spread disease in an enclosed space. Most non-serious illness clears up after a few days or a week or two. But then some guy tests your pulse, and recommends a wheelbarrow full of herbs, many of which you have to send away for and wait for a month to get and by that time whatever the diagnosis, whether it was simply fancy or real, the illness is gone. And then you start treatment. Great system. An acquaintance of mine once remarked that at a meeting of MIU and the towns people, he thought the women in town looked so much more radiant, healthier and alive than the ones on staff and faculty. I know people who take so many pills and nostrums they get ill from them. If you are in the nostrum business, 'people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints' can be described with a single word: PREY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Japanese Town Special
Santa Barbara, Pismo Beach, Morro Rock, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, and Lake Tahoe, too!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I love it when I need a jacket or sweater or hoodie (-: And I needed one this morning going to the Dome, a brisk 62F. Yay! I hope to visit SF some day and I'd really love to see Carmel, really all of CA. On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:30 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, If you plan to visit SF during the summer time, you can wear flowers in your hair but make sure to bring your sweater and jacket because it gets cold and foggy over here at that time. The weather gets better in September. Peace and Blessings ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a very full day. In more ways than one (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Japanese Town Special
Just not sure of that Coastal Highway...vertigo! (-: On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:35 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Santa Barbara, Pismo Beach, Morro Rock, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, and Lake Tahoe, too!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I love it when I need a jacket or sweater or hoodie (-: And I needed one this morning going to the Dome, a brisk 62F. Yay! I hope to visit SF some day and I'd really love to see Carmel, really all of CA. On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:30 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, If you plan to visit SF during the summer time, you can wear flowers in your hair but make sure to bring your sweater and jacket because it gets cold and foggy over here at that time. The weather gets better in September. Peace and Blessings ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a very full day. In more ways than one (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Japanese Town Special
And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million. In the interest of political correctness, John, and the successful economic assimilation, and exploitation of gay men, it is no longer acceptable to call it, The *Gay* Pride Parade. It is now, simply, The Pride Parade, with the implication that we did not recognize pride as a human quality, to be celebrated, until the wise gay men clued us in. fyi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Difference Between Transcendental Meditation and
Xeno and Richard, as with any enlightenment related topic, one hears conflicting info. In fact, one hears totally contradictory info! I guess the advaitists would ask: who is it that has a body? I'd suggest common sense but I'm not sure what that has to do with enlightenment, if anything! On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:31 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 7/1/2014 10:00 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As meditation(s) original intent was an aid to enlightenment, and physiological changes that result from various form of meditation can be a by-product, the idea that meditation should be promoted as a health nostrum really seems to me to betray its original purpose. While you might feel better if you got enlightened, that would be a completely secondary or tertiary by-product. According to the founder of the yoga tradition in India, the historical Buddha attested many times to having wasted over five years practicing asceticism - a futile pursuit - it was only after he took adequate nourishment that he found the physical and mental strength to pursue his goal of enlightenment. Apparently after his realization, his body continued to function better when it was nourished and exercised properly. So, there may be a direct correlation to health and gaining enlightenment. Suppose you meditated for 30 years, and as a result of heavy smoking early in life you got lung cancer, and the day you got enlightened was the day after you got your final dose of chemotherapy before you died just a few weeks later. Probably you wouldn't feel better, but the joke could hardly be brought home more succinctly. Probably you won't get enlightened if you only regard TM and other meditations simply as a way to feel better or somehow fix yourself into being what you imagine is a better, more competent person, and are not concerned about the spiritual dimension of these processes, and what they really portend. Not very many teachers really go into what these processes are going to do to your mental world, to prepare you for what might happen. Some breeze by for sure, while others can really be miserable for a long, long time when engaged with these practices. And in spite of cover-ups, we know TM and its related mental technologies are not immune to these more trying effects. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : It's very typical to pick up diseases at any educational institution. Ask any parent. Once away from that environment unless you are working in a big corporation where the problem occurs too you will be less exposed to bugs. On 07/01/2014 07:20 PM, anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I never saw such a bunch of people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints as the people I knew at MIU. For a brief period I was at MIU, though I generally stayed away from the supposed cures for these things unless I could get it for free. I think I was sick there more. I got sick a lot less after I moved away. Part of the problem with illness I think was the constant influx of students from other countries, bringing in new variants of disease, and the fact that conventional medicine was frowned upon, and sidhas at least were 'encouraged' to do program together, a great way to spread disease in an enclosed space. Most non-serious illness clears up after a few days or a week or two. But then some guy tests your pulse, and recommends a wheelbarrow full of herbs, many of which you have to send away for and wait for a month to get and by that time whatever the diagnosis, whether it was simply fancy or real, the illness is gone. And then you start treatment. Great system. An acquaintance of mine once remarked that at a meeting of MIU and the towns people, he thought the women in town looked so much more radiant, healthier and alive than the ones on staff and faculty. I know people who take so many pills and nostrums they get ill from them. If you are in the nostrum business, 'people with phobias, allergies, syndromes and complaints' can be described with a single word: PREY.
Re: [FairfieldLife] King Lear: The Sequel
On 7/2/2014 6:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: OK, here's a question for those closer to the action, TM-wise. Do you remember Maharishi's last days, when he was acting out his own version of Shakespeare's King Lear by having all the Rajas gazing at him over closed-circuit television vie with each other to see who was willing to pledge to build the biggest, tallest, and most phallic Tower Of Invincibility in his honor? I do. And as I remember it, several of these guys who had already paid a million bucks just to be in the room promised -- Goneril- and Regan-like -- to build these magnificent edifices. So did they ever get built? Other than at MUM and Vlodrop and probably at Maharishi's gravesite in India, did these guys follow through on their pledges to erect these testimonials to Maharishi? Just curious... The Maharishi can't hold a candle to all your accomplishments, Barry, but his house in Vlodrop looks like a giant mountain compared to your tiny rented ant-hill apartment in Leiden. Have a good day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Japanese Town Special
Yep, I remember driving Hwy 1, south with someone, so that they were on the cliff side the whole time, and it really freaked them out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Just not sure of that Coastal Highway...vertigo! (-: On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:35 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Santa Barbara, Pismo Beach, Morro Rock, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, and Lake Tahoe, too!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I love it when I need a jacket or sweater or hoodie (-: And I needed one this morning going to the Dome, a brisk 62F. Yay! I hope to visit SF some day and I'd really love to see Carmel, really all of CA. On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:30 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, If you plan to visit SF during the summer time, you can wear flowers in your hair but make sure to bring your sweater and jacket because it gets cold and foggy over here at that time. The weather gets better in September. Peace and Blessings ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a very full day. In more ways than one (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
[FairfieldLife] Transcendence
No, not that thing they promised you at your TM introductory lecture, the movie. http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi586787609/ Interestingly, they are similar. Both promise more than they deliver, but they're entertaining...for a while.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Founder of ex-amma group apologizes
Over time, I have come to realize that these allegations were not based in fact but were really projections of my own inner negativities. At that time, I also misrepresented facts and altered the record to justify my leaving. http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/ On 7/2/2014 10:27 AM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendence
On 7/2/2014 11:09 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: No, not that thing they promised you at your TM introductory lecture, the movie. If you didn't transcend the first time you learned TM, why didn't you get checked? http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi586787609/ Interestingly, they are similar. Both promise more than they deliver, but they're entertaining...for a while. You have a second chance at transcending while you still have a body, Barry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Japanese Town Special
You should have driven them up Mt. Diablo. Not exactly cliffs but looking out the right side there can be quite a dropoff. :-D On 07/02/2014 08:46 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep, I remember driving Hwy 1, south with someone, so that they were on the cliff side the whole time, and it really freaked them out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Just not sure of that Coastal Highway...vertigo! (-: On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:35 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Santa Barbara, Pismo Beach, Morro Rock, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, and Lake Tahoe, too!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I love it when I need a jacket or sweater or hoodie (-: And I needed one this morning going to the Dome, a brisk 62F. Yay! I hope to visit SF some day and I'd really love to see Carmel, really all of CA. On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:30 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, If you plan to visit SF during the summer time, you can wear flowers in your hair but make sure to bring your sweater and jacket because it gets cold and foggy over here at that time. The weather gets better in September. Peace and Blessings ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a very full day. In more ways than one (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
[FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Founder of ex-amma group apologizes
Thanks for reposting, Richard. Rick's url wasn't clickable. Powerful stuff! Very brave person. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:23 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Over time, I have come to realize that these allegations were not based in fact but were really projections of my own inner negativities. At that time, I also misrepresented facts and altered the record to justify my leaving. http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/ On 7/2/2014 10:27 AM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
On 7/2/2014 12:14 PM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way). So, let there be no doubt: The tide of war is receding. - Barack Obama, September 2011
Re: [FairfieldLife] Founder of ex-amma group apologizes
On 7/2/2014 12:16 PM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks for reposting, Richard. Rick's url wasn't clickable. Powerful stuff! Very brave person. When will the others will come forth and admit their allegations against MMY were not based on fact and that they were really just projections of their own negativity? Go figure. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:23 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Over time, I have come to realize that these allegations were not based in fact but were really projections of my own inner negativities. At that time, I also misrepresented facts and altered the record to justify my leaving. http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/ On 7/2/2014 10:27 AM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com mailto:r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/
[FairfieldLife] Facebook's Vast Power?
But what is most troubling about the PNAS study is the simple fact that a new force for social control has emerged. It makes the powers of previous surveillance states looks negligible. Joseph Goebbels would have rubbed his hands in glee. What Facebook has revealed, with its little experiment, is that Facebook is too important to be left in the hands of Facebook. 'We Can No Longer Ignore Facebook's Vast Power' http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/we-can-no-longer-ignore-facebooks-vast-power-16944058?click=pm_latest When positive expressions were reduced, people produced fewer positive posts and more negative posts; when negative expressions were reduced, the opposite pattern occurred. These results indicate that emotions expressed by others on Facebook influence our own emotions, constituting experimental evidence for massive-scale contagion via social networks. 'Facebook conducted secret psychology experiment on users' emotions' The Telegraph: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/10932534/Facebook-conducted-secret-psychology-experiment-on-users-emotions.html
[FairfieldLife] The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats
They know we're coming sooner or later: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420
[FairfieldLife] Lucy TRAILER 1 (2014) - Luc Besson, Scarlett Johansson Movie HD - YouTube
Scarlett Johansson shows us what happens when you start using your full mental potential: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVt32qoyhi0
Re: [FairfieldLife] Lucy TRAILER 1 (2014) - Luc Besson, Scarlett Johansson Movie HD - YouTube
Yowza! And way beyond pitchforks! (just to cross reference posts for fun)! On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:39 PM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Scarlett Johansson shows us what happens when you start using your full mental potential: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVt32qoyhi0
Re: [FairfieldLife] Japanese Town Special
Yep - that is a close ride to the top. Also, Las Tunitas Road, in the coast mountains. Came up there in the fog one night, with fallen trees, in a raging Winter storm. Luckily had 4wd and a manual transmission, and a lot of luck. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : You should have driven them up Mt. Diablo. Not exactly cliffs but looking out the right side there can be quite a dropoff. :-D On 07/02/2014 08:46 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep, I remember driving Hwy 1, south with someone, so that they were on the cliff side the whole time, and it really freaked them out. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Just not sure of that Coastal Highway...vertigo! (-: On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 10:35 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Santa Barbara, Pismo Beach, Morro Rock, Santa Cruz, Half Moon Bay, and Lake Tahoe, too!!! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, I love it when I need a jacket or sweater or hoodie (-: And I needed one this morning going to the Dome, a brisk 62F. Yay! I hope to visit SF some day and I'd really love to see Carmel, really all of CA. On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:30 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, If you plan to visit SF during the summer time, you can wear flowers in your hair but make sure to bring your sweater and jacket because it gets cold and foggy over here at that time. The weather gets better in September. Peace and Blessings ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a very full day. In more ways than one (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Pitchforks Are Coming… For U s Plutocrats
Seriously, who even thinks about guys like him? The guy is one of the richest people on the planet, ever, and still riddled with angst. All his cash hangs like a millstone on his neck. I made what money I have, by hard work, and trying to do the right thing, and am having too much fun, enjoying the fruits of my honest labor, to give a crap about some guy with a bunch more zeroes in his bank account. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : They know we're coming sooner or later: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Yeti exists!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZrQQ7i_lY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZrQQ7i_lY If only! The recent TV series by this geneticist gathered DNA from every alleged man- beast from Bigfoot to the Yeti in Bhutan and alas, they all turned out to be bears, goats or horses or even a black woman in Russia. Damn science spoiling all the great myths From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Yeti exists! I had been waiting for this news for over 10 years, ever since I saw an awesome documentary about a Yeti hunter in Bhutan. This guy was searching the endless northern forests and had met a Bhutanese government Yeti expert who even knew where they lived. All seemed too good to be true but they trekked off, with winter closing in, up to the high Himalaya where the guide led them to a huge hollow tree in the middle of a clearing. It was creepy beyond words but they silently crept round the trunk, half expecting a giant hairy man-ape to leap out and tear them apart. It was empty but it was obviously inhabited as they found some hairs inside, the English guy collected some with follicles still attached and took them home to be tested. He assumed they were of a big cat or wolf but was amazed to find that they couldn't be traced to any known animal. Until now. DNA study shows yeti is real (sort of) – and Oxford scientist prepares expedition to find it http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dna-study-shows-yeti-is-real-sort-of--and-oxford-scientist-prepares-expedition-to-find-it-9577991.html DNA study shows yeti is real (sort of) – and Oxford scie... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dna-study-shows-yeti-is-real-sort-of--and-oxford-scientist-prepares-expedition-to-find-it-9577991.html An Oxford scientist has discovered the world’s first verified DNA evidence that the “yeti” exists – albeit not quite in the monstrous, manlike form of legend. View on www.independent.co.uk http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dna-study-shows-yeti-is-real-sort-of--and-oxford-scientist-prepares-expedition-to-find-it-9577991.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Russell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/30/2014
Hmmm... ~8000 adults and a few thousand students learned TM in 2012. At full price, that's 8000 x 1500 = $12,000,000 + another few million for the kids. That's $15 million Max. A far cry from $50,000.000 L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The gross income of $ 50 million makes the TMO so successful that it makes the naysayers here go bananas, which I find interesting as it means they, mainly Buddhist's), measure success with $. They are so angry that the Turq had to post a long post about the matter :-) Net income is obviously less that $ 50 million, but minus 90% ? You would have to study the figures very closely to get to any conclusion at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Gross income from TM instruction in the USA for the Maharishi Foundation was far, FAR less than $50,000,000. About 1/10 that, and after paying TM teachers, advertising, etc., the MF netted about $800,000 for 2012. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : And are doing fine considering they made $ 50.000.000.- in 2012 and probably more in 2013 in the USA alone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : They're competing against organizations that will charge $125 for a weekend workshop. On 06/30/2014 10:33 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks for the update on the prices. They do seem to be getting pretty reasonable. What would $35/$75 in 1970 be in today’s dollars? From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 12:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Russell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/30/2014 At the very end you allude to the fact that Peter and you are both former TM teachers, and you say that TM is too expensive? Maharishi set the price at $2500, but that price has steadily dropped. Now, it is quite possible to learn TM for free via the David Lynch Foundation, and David Lynch has made it perfectly clear that if you write (paper, not email) his organization and explain your financial situation, the DLF will help pay for TM instruction. Currently, unmodified, TM costs: $1680 for couples ($420 per month x4 months) $960 for adults (($240 per month x4 months) $360 for students ($90 per month x4 months) - local scholarships and grants from TM center - financial aid from David Lynch Foundation I know several people who ended up paying a small fraction of the official fee after they wrote directly to the DLF requesting financial aid. The interesting thing is that under the current organization guidelines, the TM teacher still gets paid their full share, even if the discounts make what the student pays far less than the teacher's cut (~$500 per adult or ~$300 per student). the creative financial crapola from 40+ years ago appears to have gone away. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... wrote : I find it amusing that both of you seem to have a very Maharishi-esque perspective about things but refuse to name him OR TM throughout the conversation. I also find it amusing that despite Russell's claim that he's interested in research on enlightenment, he appears completely unaware of the recent (past 30 years) research on pure consciousness and cosmic consciousness. I once asked him why he no longer did TM and he said that it was because he didn't become enlightened within the timeframe that Maharishi had promised... L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com http://batgap.us2.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=310c9367eae=16e07f16fe. published 06/30/2014 238. Peter Russell Jun 29, 2014 10:34 pm | Rick Peter holds degrees in theoretical physics, experimental psychology, and computer science from the University of Cambridge, England, where he was a student of Stephen Hawking. Following university he went to India, to study meditation and Eastern philosophy. In the 1970s, … Continue reading → The post 238. Peter Russell appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump. comments http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=1821207882e=16e07f16fe
[FairfieldLife] Full Mental Potential
The phrase 'full mental potential' is rather kind of strange. Everyone is at their full mental potential. Potential is unexpressed. You never know what that potential is until it is expressed, and then it is an actuality, not a potential. You never have to develop your full mental potential because you always have it. If you are an idiot, that is the limit of your potential. It is possible that one's mental ability might change over time, get better, or get worse, but the full potential of whatever state you have is always there. 'Developing your full mental potential' is one of those phrases that sound great, but essentially has no real significance because it is not saying anything beyond what is already the case.
[FairfieldLife] Absolutely fascinating article
This is right up there IMO with the research that showed that, neurologically, being happy doesn't make you smile -- smiling makes you happy. There is something about the facial muscles moving in the way that constitutes a smile that triggers the production of endorphins in the brain and makes you feel happier. Try it. *Force* yourself to smile -- as often as you can remember to do so -- all day, and see both how you feel at the end of the day and how other people reacted to you. The concept described in this article is similar. Can facial paralysis that freezes your brow muscles so that you are *unable* to show signs of anger or unhappiness cure depression? Well, astonishingly enough, it appears that it can. But the kicker in this article is that it isn't just someone reporting on the research. The author, who suffers from occasional depression herself, had herself injected with botox to try it out, and reports on her subjective experiences -- as clearly and as lucidly as Jill Bolte Taylor (a neuroscientist) was able to report on her subjective experience of having a stroke. How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic One in 10 American adults struggles with depression, and women are twice as susceptible as men. Is facial paralysis the answer? View on www.psmag.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Full Mental Potential
Excellent distinction. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 8:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Full Mental Potential The phrase 'full mental potential' is rather kind of strange. Everyone is at their full mental potential. Potential is unexpressed. You never know what that potential is until it is expressed, and then it is an actuality, not a potential. You never have to develop your full mental potential because you always have it. If you are an idiot, that is the limit of your potential. It is possible that one's mental ability might change over time, get better, or get worse, but the full potential of whatever state you have is always there. 'Developing your full mental potential' is one of those phrases that sound great, but essentially has no real significance because it is not saying anything beyond what is already the case.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Full Mental Potential
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : The phrase 'full mental potential' is rather kind of strange. Everyone is at their full mental potential. Potential is unexpressed. You never know what that potential is until it is expressed, and then it is an actuality, not a potential. You never have to develop your full mental potential because you always have it. If you are an idiot, that is the limit of your potential. It is possible that one's mental ability might change over time, get better, or get worse, but the full potential of whatever state you have is always there. 'Developing your full mental potential' is one of those phrases that sound great, but essentially has no real significance because it is not saying anything beyond what is already the case. I was thinking about this the other day, I remember the promise at my TM intro talk that I would achieve my full mental potential. I couldn't wait for that! Trouble is, not much has changed in the intervening decades and I have come to the conclusion that the disappointment I have is that I mistook my possible full mental potential for my imagination of what my full potential was. Easy mistake to make, it's probably in the small print somewhere
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pitchforks Are Coming… For Us Plutocrats
Same guy we've been discussing here for a few days with the billionaire who gets it thread. Have you seen the price of ass wipe lately? The poor can't even afford to take a shit. On 07/02/2014 10:35 AM, 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: They know we're coming sooner or later: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420
[FairfieldLife] Re: Absolutely fascinating article
Interesting but weird, I'm going to be self conscious about what expression I'm showing now! But there must be a better way than injecting poison into your face? I think I'd rather be depressed... But did you know that Botox is the most valuable substance on Earth? A kilo would cost more than the entire planets GDP. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : This is right up there IMO with the research that showed that, neurologically, being happy doesn't make you smile -- smiling makes you happy. There is something about the facial muscles moving in the way that constitutes a smile that triggers the production of endorphins in the brain and makes you feel happier. Try it. *Force* yourself to smile -- as often as you can remember to do so -- all day, and see both how you feel at the end of the day and how other people reacted to you. The concept described in this article is similar. Can facial paralysis that freezes your brow muscles so that you are *unable* to show signs of anger or unhappiness cure depression? Well, astonishingly enough, it appears that it can. But the kicker in this article is that it isn't just someone reporting on the research. The author, who suffers from occasional depression herself, had herself injected with botox to try it out, and reports on her subjective experiences -- as clearly and as lucidly as Jill Bolte Taylor (a neuroscientist) was able to report on her subjective experience of having a stroke. How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/ http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/ How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/; class=ygrps-yiv-1245506846link-enhancr-card-urlWrapper ygrps-yiv-1245506846link-enhancr-element One in 10 American adults struggles with depression, and women are twice as susceptible as men. Is facial paralysis the answer? View on www.psmag.com http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Japanese Town Special
Share, Yes, Carmel is very nice. We used to have dinners over at Hog's Breath Inn, which was owned by Clint Eastwood, back then. We saw Merv Griffin (may he rest in peace) over there once. It's owned by another company now. But Clint's image as a cowboy is still inside the bar. You should check out Sausalito too, which is just across the Golden Gate Bridge from SF. You can also take the ferry boat to get there. You'll enjoy it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, I love it when I need a jacket or sweater or hoodie (-: And I needed one this morning going to the Dome, a brisk 62F. Yay! I hope to visit SF some day and I'd really love to see Carmel, really all of CA. On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:30 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Share, If you plan to visit SF during the summer time, you can wear flowers in your hair but make sure to bring your sweater and jacket because it gets cold and foggy over here at that time. The weather gets better in September. Peace and Blessings ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : John, it sounds like a very full day. In more ways than one (-: On Sunday, June 29, 2014 6:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Full Mental Potential
Yeah, full mental functioning might be a better phrase to use. If you're a bit foggy in the morning then you aren't at full mental functioning at least until maybe you had your daily joe. ;-) On 07/02/2014 11:21 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The phrase 'full mental potential' is rather kind of strange. Everyone is at their full mental potential. Potential is unexpressed. You never know what that potential is until it is expressed, and then it is an actuality, not a potential. You never have to develop your full mental potential because you always have it. If you are an idiot, that is the limit of your potential. It is possible that one's mental ability might change over time, get better, or get worse, but the full potential of whatever state you have is always there. 'Developing your full mental potential' is one of those phrases that sound great, but essentially has no real significance because it is not saying anything beyond what is already the case.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Absolutely fascinating article
turq, an important detail about the smiling point that I've read is that if one smiles only with the mouth, then smiling actually has a negative effect. The smile has to be expressed also in the eyes in order to have a positive effect. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 1:26 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: This is right up there IMO with the research that showed that, neurologically, being happy doesn't make you smile -- smiling makes you happy. There is something about the facial muscles moving in the way that constitutes a smile that triggers the production of endorphins in the brain and makes you feel happier. Try it. *Force* yourself to smile -- as often as you can remember to do so -- all day, and see both how you feel at the end of the day and how other people reacted to you. The concept described in this article is similar. Can facial paralysis that freezes your brow muscles so that you are *unable* to show signs of anger or unhappiness cure depression? Well, astonishingly enough, it appears that it can. But the kicker in this article is that it isn't just someone reporting on the research. The author, who suffers from occasional depression herself, had herself injected with botox to try it out, and reports on her subjective experiences -- as clearly and as lucidly as Jill Bolte Taylor (a neuroscientist) was able to report on her subjective experience of having a stroke. How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic One in 10 American adults struggles with depression, and women are twice as susceptible as men. Is facial paralysis the answer? View on www.psmag.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Japanese Town Special
Fleetwood, It's become everybody's parade-- including the LGBT groups and the straight folks. When I was driving on Geary Street on that day, I saw girls with bright-colored shorts and and blouses. So, I figured there must have been some kind of a festival in the area. And there was--a big one at that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million. In the interest of political correctness, John, and the successful economic assimilation, and exploitation of gay men, it is no longer acceptable to call it, The *Gay* Pride Parade. It is now, simply, The Pride Parade, with the implication that we did not recognize pride as a human quality, to be celebrated, until the wise gay men clued us in. fyi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
Ha! Just got back from seeing Dinesh D'Souza's movie, *America*. Excellent! There's stuff even Bhairitu can appreciate in there. Dinesh axes the question, What would the world be like if America never existed? On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:37 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Japanese Town Special
Good point - I often enjoy your viewpoint, in contrast to my sometimes far too acerbic POV. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Fleetwood, It's become everybody's parade-- including the LGBT groups and the straight folks. When I was driving on Geary Street on that day, I saw girls with bright-colored shorts and and blouses. So, I figured there must have been some kind of a festival in the area. And there was--a big one at that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million. In the interest of political correctness, John, and the successful economic assimilation, and exploitation of gay men, it is no longer acceptable to call it, The *Gay* Pride Parade. It is now, simply, The Pride Parade, with the implication that we did not recognize pride as a human quality, to be celebrated, until the wise gay men clued us in. fyi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : I found a new restaurant at the Japanese Center area today. It used to be run by Denny's. Now, it's become a Korean restaurant and is fairly busy with many customers. So, I tried their bulgogi beef special served with soup, kimchee, noodles, honey-sweetened fried potato cubes, pot stickers, and rice. It was delightful and creative. It's nice to see that they're able to run a profitable business at that location, whereas Denny's could not. Then, I went inside the center to have an ice cream sundae, which was made of green tea ice cream, mixed with sweet bean paste, and topped with whipped cream. And, I had a side of coke with it. It was delicious. Next, I was drawn by a fragrance from a store selling incense and perfumes. So, I went inside and bought a incense set with sandalwood incense, charcoal cubes, and an incense burner for the house. And, NO. I didn't attend the Gay Pride Parade today which was attended by an estimated crowd of about half a million.
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
This President if so full of BS; if you can't see it you must be blind... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ha! Just got back from seeing Dinesh D'Souza's movie, *America*. Excellent! There's stuff even Bhairitu can appreciate in there. Dinesh axes the question, What would the world be like if America never existed? On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:37 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
Many of us saw it long before he was ever elected. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:29 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: This President if so full of BS; if you can't see it you must be blind... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ha! Just got back from seeing Dinesh D'Souza's movie, *America*. Excellent! There's stuff even Bhairitu can appreciate in there. Dinesh axes the question, What would the world be like if America never existed? On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:37 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pitchforks Are Coming… Fo r Us Plutocrats
Poor? What poor? Oh, you mean the poor we are importing from South of the Border, correct! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Same guy we've been discussing here for a few days with the billionaire who gets it thread. Have you seen the price of ass wipe lately? The poor can't even afford to take a shit. On 07/02/2014 10:35 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: They know we're coming sooner or later: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420 http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Pitchforks Are Coming… Fo r Us Plutocrats
That's another issue entirely. The open borders thing or maybe even a North American Union scheme. Ah, but that's a conspiracy theory. On 07/02/2014 12:39 PM, wgm4u wrote: Poor? What poor? Oh, you mean the poor we are importing from South of the Border, correct! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Same guy we've been discussing here for a few days with the billionaire who gets it thread. Have you seen the price of ass wipe lately? The poor can't even afford to take a shit. On 07/02/2014 10:35 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: They know we're coming sooner or later: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U7OALSjA420
[FairfieldLife] Re: POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
The poll was probably paid by Karl Rove. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
[FairfieldLife] A Frenchman in India
Swami Vijayananda - The Path of Wisdom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jolBfdO1voA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jolBfdO1voA Swami Vijayananda - The Path of Wisdom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jolBfdO1voA Swami Vijayananda - The Path of Wisdom Extracts from the DVD about Swami Vijayananda, who lives in the ashram of Sri Ma Anandamayi, by Olivier and Lu... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jolBfdO1voA Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
Mr. Benjamin Crème was asked about Obama, probably because many in the western world felt a great relief when he was elected after Bush and all the havoc that guy made for American karma. Surprisingly his answer was: He is a good speaker. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Many of us saw it long before he was ever elected. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:29 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: This President if so full of BS; if you can't see it you must be blind... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Ha! Just got back from seeing Dinesh D'Souza's movie, *America*. Excellent! There's stuff even Bhairitu can appreciate in there. Dinesh axes the question, What would the world be like if America never existed? On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:37 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] A Frenchman in India
Beautiful, Nablusoss, thanks for posting. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 4:17 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Swami Vijayananda - The Path of Wisdom Swami Vijayananda - The Path of Wisdom Swami Vijayananda - The Path of Wisdom Extracts from the DVD about Swami Vijayananda, who lives in the ashram of Sri Ma Anandamayi, by Olivier and Lu... View on www.youtube.comPreview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] For the lovers of cameras and techology; this it !
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[FairfieldLife] Supreme Court Rules JCPenney Allowed to Sacrifice Employees to Appease Cthulhu - The Moonmont Chronicle
http://www.moonmontchronicle.com/supreme-court-rules-jcpenney-allowed-to-sac rifice-employees-to-appease-cthulhu.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Russell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/30/2014
So if the usual dropout rate is still happening, then maybe 800 adults continued after about 4 months - by now its down to the hard core of 80. From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Russell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/30/2014 Hmmm... ~8000 adults and a few thousand students learned TM in 2012. At full price, that's 8000 x 1500 = $12,000,000 + another few million for the kids. That's $15 million Max. A far cry from $50,000.000 L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The gross income of $ 50 million makes the TMO so successful that it makes the naysayers here go bananas, which I find interesting as it means they, mainly Buddhist's), measure success with $. They are so angry that the Turq had to post a long post about the matter :-) Net income is obviously less that $ 50 million, but minus 90% ? You would have to study the figures very closely to get to any conclusion at all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Gross income from TM instruction in the USA for the Maharishi Foundation was far, FAR less than $50,000,000. About 1/10 that, and after paying TM teachers, advertising, etc., the MF netted about $800,000 for 2012. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : And are doing fine considering they made $ 50.000.000.- in 2012 and probably more in 2013 in the USA alone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : They're competing against organizations that will charge $125 for a weekend workshop. On 06/30/2014 10:33 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Thanks for the update on the prices. They do seem to be getting pretty reasonable. What would $35/$75 in 1970 be in today’s dollars? From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 12:20 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Peter Russell: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/30/2014 At the very end you allude to the fact that Peter and you are both former TM teachers, and you say that TM is too expensive? Maharishi set the price at $2500, but that price has steadily dropped. Now, it is quite possible to learn TM for free via the David Lynch Foundation, and David Lynch has made it perfectly clear that if you write (paper, not email) his organization and explain your financial situation, the DLF will help pay for TM instruction. Currently, unmodified, TM costs: $1680 for couples ($420 per month x4 months) $960 for adults (($240 per month x4 months) $360 for students ($90 per month x4 months) - local scholarships and grants from TM center - financial aid from David Lynch Foundation I know several people who ended up paying a small fraction of the official fee after they wrote directly to the DLF requesting financial aid. The interesting thing is that under the current organization guidelines, the TM teacher still gets paid their full share, even if the discounts make what the student pays far less than the teacher's cut (~$500 per adult or ~$300 per student). the creative financial crapola from 40+ years ago appears to have gone away. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I find it amusing that both of you seem to have a very Maharishi-esque perspective about things but refuse to name him OR TM throughout the conversation. I also find it amusing that despite Russell's claim that he's interested in research on enlightenment, he appears completely unaware of the recent (past 30 years) research on pure consciousness and cosmic consciousness. I once asked him why he no longer did TM and he said that it was because he didn't become enlightened within the timeframe that Maharishi had promised... L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : blog updates from Buddha at the Gas Pump If you are not doing so already, please consider donating a minimum of $1 or $2 per month to help offset basic monthly expenses associated with hosting, MailChimp, etc. Of course, larger donations for other expenses are very much appreciated and needed. Donate button on http://batgap.com. published 06/30/2014 238. Peter Russell Jun 29, 2014 10:34 pm | Rick Peter holds degrees in theoretical physics, experimental psychology, and computer science from the University of Cambridge, England, where he was a student of Stephen Hawking. Following university he went to India, to study meditation and Eastern philosophy. In the 1970s, … Continue reading → The post 238. Peter Russell appeared first on Buddha at the Gas Pump. comments | read more Elsewhere · Visit My Blog · Share This with a friend · Follow me on Twitter · RSS feed
[FairfieldLife] Question for Sal
Sal, What kinds of rooms would one typically find in a two up, two down house?
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
You mean you didn't go see the latest Transformers movie? On 07/02/2014 12:05 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ha! Just got back from seeing Dinesh D'Souza's movie, *America*. Excellent! There's stuff even Bhairitu can appreciate in there. Dinesh axes the question, What would the world be like if America never existed? On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:37 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
[FairfieldLife] Sri Anandamayi Ma singing in 1958
Sri Anandamayi Ma singing in 1958 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5033Xzver8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5033Xzver8 Sri Anandamayi Ma singing in 1958 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5033Xzver8 Sri Ma sings , very likely in Calcutta in 1958. The sound is added later, and if anyone can lip-read Sri Ma and advise her words, it may be possible to match... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5033Xzver8 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it
Hell, where I live now, you have dilapidated housing stock within two to three block of fancy homes in the City of St. Louis. Some of it has been targeted for revitalization. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : In the town I grew up, Laurens, SC there were tin roofed unpainted shacks inhabited by black people literally within a few minutes walk from the big fancy houses of some of the wealthiest people in town. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it I have to agree, Michael, having also grown up in the South. If you have any doubts that shanty towns still exist in America, all you have to do is watch True Detective, filmed in modern-day Louisiana. One of the most effective visual effects in the show was just to show miles and miles of such landscapes in aerial pan shots. They worked because it was good cinematography, but also because many of us in the audience were saying to ourselves, But wait...there aren't *really* places in America that look this poor, are there? There are. With regard to poverty elsewhere, I can speak from more recent experience about New Mexico. It is the second-poorest state in America, and it shows. The shacks in New Mexico may be made of adobe instead of found lumber, but that's only because mud is easier to find in the desert. The current percentage of people living below the poverty line in New Mexico is 19.5% If that figure surprises you, the same figure for the United States as a whole is 14.9%. The middle class is in some ways worse off, living with low salary levels that make working at McDonald's look like a good job. When I lived there, over 50% of the population had no health insurance and no auto insurance, because they couldn't afford to pay for that and also pay for rent and food. Living in Santa Fe, I *could* have remained unaware of how upscale it was, and how atypical of life in the rest of the state it was. But I chose to wander further, and thus drove, hiked, and rode horses through a lot of the desert on the outskirts of Santa Fe and in neighboring towns, and thus got a real education in what life in America is really about. America is all about *hiding* its poverty levels, and pretending that they don't exist. Thus it's easy to understand that many people who never leave their middle-class cocoons don't believe it exists. It exists. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it Come here to the South and go into some of the African American sections - plenty of people living in shacks there. I grew up around it, and its still here. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2014 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A billionaire who gets it People in the US are incredibly spoiled, and have a fantasy view of the rest of the world. When I see beggars at every house, and people starving, I will be concerned. When I see the poor in rags here, and living in shacks, I will be concerned about a revolution. One thing I *never* saw in third world countries, were able bodied men, begging. I see it all the time here. The USA doesn't even know poverty as it exists elsewhere, and if, as you say, people starve here, (which I have never heard about) it is out of ignorance, as food is always available. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Homeless do starve in the US. And indeed corporate run food establishments throw away food at the end of the and fire workers who give this food to the homeless. We had a case of that at Starbucks recently right here in Martinez. Twenty years ago I would suspect folks in Greece would have laughed at anyone who suggested a day would come when there would be riots over food but that's what is happening in that country today. I see the steps toward austerity coming to the US in fact it is already here. Excuse while I go sharpen my pitchforks. On 07/01/2014 09:49 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: I have to agree with Steve - People in the US have it incredibly easy compared to the poor countries in the world. Even the homeless here don't starve. However, I also heard on the news last night, that at a UC school (for those out of state: University of California - the highest tier of public education in the state, e.g. Berkeley, or Santa Barbara), one year of tuition and boarding, costs $33,000! Four years is $132,000!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Full Mental Potential
On 7/2/2014 1:35 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : The phrase 'full mental potential' is rather kind of strange. Everyone is at their full mental potential. Potential is unexpressed. You never know what that potential is until it is expressed, and then it is an actuality, not a potential. You never have to develop your full mental potential because you always have it. If you are an idiot, that is the limit of your potential. It is possible that one's mental ability might change over time, get better, or get worse, but the full potential of whatever state you have is always there. 'Developing your full mental potential' is one of those phrases that sound great, but essentially has no real significance because it is not saying anything beyond what is already the case. I was thinking about this the other day, I remember the promise at my TM intro talk that I would achieve my full mental potential. I couldn't wait for that! Trouble is, not much has changed in the intervening decades and I have come to the conclusion that the disappointment I have is that I mistook my possible full mental potential for my /imagination/ of what my full potential was. Easy mistake to make, it's probably in the small print somewhere Maybe if you smiled once in awhile you could be happier and reach your full mental potential. Go figure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Absolutely fascinating article
On 7/2/2014 1:40 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Interesting but weird, I'm going to be self conscious about what expression I'm showing now! But there must be a better way than injecting poison into your face? I think I'd rather be depressed... More depressed than you already are? But did you know that Botox is the most valuable substance on Earth? A kilo would cost more than the entire planets GDP. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : This is right up there IMO with the research that showed that, neurologically, being happy doesn't make you smile -- smiling makes you happy. There is something about the facial muscles moving in the way that constitutes a smile that triggers the production of endorphins in the brain and makes you feel happier. Try it. *Force* yourself to smile -- as often as you can remember to do so -- all day, and see both how you feel at the end of the day and how other people reacted to you. The concept described in this article is similar. Can facial paralysis that freezes your brow muscles so that you are *unable* to show signs of anger or unhappiness cure depression? Well, astonishingly enough, it appears that it can. But the kicker in this article is that it isn't just someone reporting on the research. The author, who suffers from occasional depression herself, had herself injected with botox to try it out, and reports on her subjective experiences -- as clearly and as lucidly as Jill Bolte Taylor (a neuroscientist) was able to report on her subjective experience of having a stroke. How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/ image http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/ How Botox Can Solve the Depression Epidemic http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/ One in 10 American adults struggles with depression, and women are twice as susceptible as men. Is facial paralysis the answer? View on www.psmag.com http://www.psmag.com/navigation/health-and-behavior/can-botox-cure-your-depression-facial-paralysis-emotions-feeling-84227/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] POLL: Obama Worst Modern-Day President
On 7/2/2014 2:05 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ha! Just got back from seeing Dinesh D'Souza's movie, *America*. Excellent! There's stuff even Bhairitu can appreciate in there. Dinesh axes the question, What would the world be like if America never existed? For one thing, everyone in Europe would probably be speaking German by now. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:37 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: It might be good if he did represent his left wing base. But he doesn't even do that. He represents Wall Street. On 07/02/2014 10:14 AM, wgm4u wrote: Why? Because he only represents his left wing base and ideology, which is only less than half the Country. O happy day when he leaves(it's his way or the hi-way).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Question for Sal
On 7/2/2014 5:19 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Sal, What kinds of rooms would one typically find in a two up, two down house? Rectangular?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Sri Anandamayi Ma singing in 1958
OK... I'm thinking... Grammy! On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 4:47 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Sri Anandamayi Ma singing in 1958 Sri Anandamayi Ma singing in 1958 Sri Ma sings , very likely in Calcutta in 1958. The sound is added later, and if anyone can lip-read Sri Ma and advise her words, it may be possible to match... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Founder of ex-amma group apologizes
Evidently some defamation legal action and injunction seems to have forced this recanting out. A lot of gum-shoe investigation and deposition work showed there was no corroboration for the stories this person/ Treadwell and that Gayatri person were spinning. That is what I heard from someone who seemed to know. Apparently a European legal team stepped up who started to investigate of which then came this recanting on fact. The recant is quite thorough, paragraph by paragraph. It would seem this person proly had some legal help writing it. Of course she hopes she is off the hook. -Buck In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thanks for reposting, Richard. Rick's url wasn't clickable. Powerful stuff! Very brave person. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:23 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Over time, I have come to realize that these allegations were not based in fact but were really projections of my own inner negativities. At that time, I also misrepresented facts and altered the record to justify my leaving. http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/ http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/ On 7/2/2014 10:27 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/ http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/
[FairfieldLife] Todays very special Global Family Chat
A celebration of Raja Lius and an update on Latin America, you can access it still through the 'slider Truly not to be missed...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Todays very special Global Family Chat
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Founder of ex-amma group apologizes
On 7/2/2014 8:22 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Evidently some defamation legal action and injunction seems to have forced this recanting out. A lot of gum-shoe investigation and deposition work showed there was no corroboration for the stories this person/ Treadwell and that Gayatri person were spinning. That is what I heard from someone who seemed to know. Apparently a European legal team stepped up who started to investigate of which then came this recanting on fact. The recant is quite thorough, paragraph by paragraph. It would seem this person proly had some legal help writing it. Of course she hopes she is off the hook. -Buck So, I wonder how many other liars are lurking here besides Laurie and Gina? http://tmfree.blogspot.com/ In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Thanks for reposting, Richard. Rick's url wasn't clickable. Powerful stuff! Very brave person. On Wednesday, July 2, 2014 11:23 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Over time, I have come to realize that these allegations were not based in fact but were really projections of my own inner negativities. At that time, I also misrepresented facts and altered the record to justify my leaving. http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/ On 7/2/2014 10:27 AM, 'Rick Archer' rick@... mailto:rick@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/2014/06/30/apology-from-former-owner-of-the-examma-forum/
