Beautifully expressed! Now let's see if the TM aficionados will revile you for
saying so.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 11:42 PM
Subject: Re:
Dear Anartaxius, 'No mantra and no thought' is certainly a correct experience
in transcending meditation: see list of correct experience of meditation
enumerated in second nite of TM checking. Take it easy and take it as it comes.
Working on those knots feeling the body is a correct experience
I am proud to be a TM Quitter and Neganaut.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2014 6:58 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Meditating has instant effect on reducing
MJ, you left out Apostate. Proud to be that too?
On Sunday, July 6, 2014 6:32 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
I am proud to be a TM Quitter and Neganaut.
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
Yeah, real proud of that one! I had to look up the definition to make sure - I
like all the synonyms here - I'm sure Buck and Nabby think of me as all these
and more:
dissenter, defector, deserter, traitor, backslider, turncoat;
From: Share Long
What if you woke up in the morning on the 4th of July and you found out
that there were 130,00 refugee women and children crossing the
U.S.-Mexican border seeking asylum? What if you saw protestors blocking
the road chanting /USA! USA!/
Protest rally
What would you do?
1. Join a protest.
2.
Very refreshing interview. Many good points made.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
He's got a solution for the US national debt as well. Can he be the next
president?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmfb524wJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmfb524wJA
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
He's got a solution for the US national debt as well. Can he be the next
president?
Gene Simmons on the Economy and What Women Want
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmfb524wJA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOmfb524wJA
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Salyavin,
If robots become intelligent, they too will be influenced by the Moon and
other planets.
I wish I lived in your world John, it must be so
You hit the nail on the head when you said, mindfulness is not a technique.
It isn't. It is the normal silent watchfulness of the mind that one gains
through regular practice of TM. There is no way to be mindful of a larger
consciousness than one has developed, so mindfulness of a limited
Congratulations! I am proud to be enlightened, as a result of my ongoing TM
practice.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I am proud to be a TM Quitter and Neganaut.
From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To:
I like old abandoned places, too, especially if they haven't been restored -
I visited Devil's Island (there are actually three) during the early '70's, and
it was like that - the jungle was taking over, but there were still 40 year old
towels rotting in the washrooms, and detailed diagrams
Yes, it is all in the speed of accomplishment, Dick. To sit, as you would,
doing nothing, you will eventually transcend - it is after all, the foundation
of life itself - but, as you yourself demonstrate, there is nothing
extraordinary going on. By doing TM, that natural process is accelerated,
Fleetwood, thanks for great summary which helped me clarify my own thinking
about what Xeno said. I love your point about expanding the container of
awareness which I had forgotten. I'd say mindfulness is basically about
directing attention, which Maharishi called, I think, a beam of awareness.
MUM bigwigs, including “Raja Ram”, have stated their opposition, at least in
dome meetings.
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Sent: Saturday, July 5, 2014 4:47 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; fairfieldc...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
Good to know - now is MUM going to use their influence and economic muscle to
influence the outcome?
I think that the Heartland Coop has already made a generous contribution to the
MUM general fund, if not Bevan's private fund for his gold crown polishing fund
to keep MUM from taking an
Steve,
Yes, it's surprising that he's so conservative in thinking, although he claims
to have had 4,600 relationships with various women. However, he recently
married his girlfriend or companion for many years.
But he doesn't take any drugs. He is a businessman, as in show business.
Ann,
It's rather amusing to think of an imaginary President Simmons beginning the
state of the nation address by sticking his long tongue out. What would the
Tea Party members say?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Most meditation techniques will let you transcend. It's more of a side
effect especially the masses are just going for relaxation. Some
mantras are actually stimulating and good for people who are too
sluggish (kapha). Transcending comes easy for those people because they
are already in a
It's a good sign that noted scientists like Hawking are beginning to
raise alarms over giving machines too much control. There's too much
if it makes money, do it 'tude out there which could lead to such
dangerous machines. It takes people who know how it can be done to raise
the alarm.
On
Ann,
The effects of the planets can be understood as the science of vibration or
waves, which is covered under the banner of quantum string theory in physics.
John Hagelin discusses these points in his lectures on YouTube.
In fact, you should listen to the lectures of Leonard Susskind
Bhairitu,
Hawking is probably the typical person who could benefit from advanced
robotics technology. He can be put on a robotic suit so that he can walk
independently. And, he can put on a robotic helmet so that he'd be able to
speak his ideas audibly to his listeners.
But the rise of
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Ann,
The effects of the planets can be understood as the science of vibration or
waves, which is covered under the banner of quantum string theory in physics.
John Hagelin discusses these points in his lectures on YouTube.
What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that earth had been
invaded by aliens?
The aliens have almost taken over the entire planet. They've turned you
and others into confused androids - weak and unable to see reality. Now
we have millions of people who are like robots, blindly
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that earth had been
invaded by aliens?
The aliens have almost taken over the entire planet. They've turned you
and others into confused androids - weak and unable to see
On 7/6/2014 7:11 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Yeah, real proud of that one! I had to look up the definition to make
sure - I like all the synonyms here - I'm sure Buck and Nabby think of
me as all these and more:
dissenter
Nice rant, but wasted. You really can't talk sense to those who have none.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Ann,
The effects of the planets can be understood as the science of vibration or
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that earth had been
invaded by aliens?
The aliens have almost taken over the entire planet. They've turned you
and others into confused androids - weak and unable to see
On 7/6/2014 1:03 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Nice rant, but wasted. You really can't talk sense to those who have
none.
What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that your teacher
could levitate, suspended in mid-air over a stage with no visible
What if you woke up one morning and you found out that humans are alone
on planet earth?
Are we alone - there's no evidence that life exists on other planets,
let alone intelligent life. Based on the law of probability, the odds
are against there being human life anywhere else in the universe
You already learned TM, so we can't tell if people who learn meditation from
Chopra's own teachers have teh same results.
Chopra isn't interested in conducting science to validate his claims, either.
At least, it is really hard to find any published research on Primordial Sound
Meditation.
Stress is the ultimate anti-spiritual thing. In fact, I would argue that it is
the ONLY anti-spiritual thing.
Yoga is the subsidence of mind fluctuations.
and mind-flutuations are brought about by past experience that interferes with
our ability to deal with the present moment -that is,
Lawson, I think Maharishi once defined stress as any chemical or structural
abnormality in the system. As such I think of it as non wholeness rather than
anti spiritual.
On Sunday, July 6, 2014 2:07 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Stress is
Bhairitu, I'd say not just vata types but any type who already has a lot of
*noise* in their system, which could also be from trauma and or unhealthy
lifestyle.
On Sunday, July 6, 2014 11:12 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Most
Hawking is the one who has been recently raising the alarm, John. You
sound VERY naive. I know technology. I know AI. It is very dangerous
when you let those who create this stuff because they can do so. When
Kurzweil's Singularity book came out Bill joy, one of the Sun
Computing
salyavin wrote about robots: We would be out-evolved by our own creation.
Share replies: then you'll know how God feels about you atheists (-:
On Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:54 AM, salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
On 07/06/2014 11:00 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that earth had been
invaded by aliens?
The aliens have almost taken over the entire planet. They've turned you
and others into
It would probably have a different flavor. Each mantra has a different
flavor. Would you like peach or orange? :-D
On 07/06/2014 12:05 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You already learned TM, so we can't tell if people who learn
meditation from Chopra's own teachers have teh
Apostate's original meaning is one who abandons his/her religion. This seems to
be the sense in which Buck uses the term. It has acquired over time the
connotations Michael posted below. Highly pejorative terms seem to develop in
religion to ward off potential or actual defectors as a kind of
Maharishi once defined spiritual growth as balanced, that is, wholisitic
growth simultaneously for mental, physical and emotional well-being.
In other words, non-wholeness = anti-spiritual.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Lawson, I think Maharishi
Consciousness, awareness is always unchanged. Meditative techniques, including
just sitting still like Zen practitioners do, affect the mind, not
consciousness. I disagree with you if would seem. Meditative techniques clear
the mind so it becomes a better 'reflector' of consciousness. Long ago
You seem to think that TM mantras are what makes TM special.
I would say it is the mantra + how TM is taught.
And the most important side-effect of TM mantras is that it becomes more
charming as the mental activity becomes more refined.
CHopra's mantras may well have this effect as
yep, and when the container expands enough, it becomes more and more a choice
what we want to own as 'ourselves'. The beam of awareness also becomes complete
- the more attention, the more knowledge of the object, regardless of any
personal opinion - just drips, seeps, or floods in, like water.
Mikey might like him though.
“The 1 percent pays 80 percent of all taxes. Fifty percent of the
population of the U.S. pays no taxes. The 1 percent provides all the
jobs for everybody else. If the 1 percent didn’t exist, there would be
chaos and the American economy would drop dead. Try being
Yes, I recognize what it is you are saying. However, perhaps if the
relationship of the mind to consciousness, is seen, not in terms of thinking,
but in terms of the absence of thought, of silence, it becomes clearer, what
the relationship is. There can be a state of no thought, within a
I dunno, you know the original of the Tea Party, right?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Ann,
It's rather amusing to think of an imaginary President Simmons beginning the
state of the nation address by sticking his long tongue out. What would the
Tea Party members
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Salyavin wrote about robots: We would be out-evolved by our own creation.
Share replies: then you'll know how God feels about you atheists (-:
LOL, what a bunch of ungrateful bastards!
Have you ever heard of a book
Does this mean you're taking your ball and leaving?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
Ann,
The effects of the planets can be understood as the science of vibration or
waves, which is covered
Uh, Rita might have something to say about that. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that earth had been
invaded by aliens?
The
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Does this mean you're taking your ball and leaving?
Your response seems to make no sense.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :
never mind
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Does this mean you're taking your ball and leaving?
Your response seems to make no sense.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
sometimes my jokes are just dumb. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
never mind
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Does this mean you're taking your ball
or maybe it's just a colony expression.
(there I go with another dumb one) (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
sometimes my jokes are just dumb. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
never mind
---In
I take it you're no longer in the hospital? (-:
(main points anyone?)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
Consciousness, awareness is always unchanged. Meditative techniques, including
just sitting still like Zen practitioners do, affect the mind, not
Bhairitu,
I'm not denying the potential danger of intelligent robots. Yes, it would be
advisable to teach courses on ethics and classical philosophy to those who are
majoring in robotics technology. But these robots can be controlled if
Asimov's laws of robotics were adapted in designing
All the Advaita experts contend that awareness is primal and consciousness is
relative.
I agree.
Re “The 1 percent pays 80 percent of all taxes.:
The flaw in that argument is that one reason the rich pay so much in tax and
the poorest pay so little is that the wealthy award themselves mega bonuses
while the poorest are seeing their wages decline in real terms. Increase pay at
the bottom
On 7/6/2014 4:39 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Uh, Rita might have something to say about that. (-:
What if you woke up one morning and your wife found aliens in he house?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In
Hey, we've all heard Gene Simmon's stories. We may have seen other interviews.
I'll say in this interview he came off pretty well, and it changed my opinion
of him.
You know also that Donald Trump consumes no alcohol.
And I'll say something else which is likely non pc. In that recent
The teaching of TM is not unique. There is nothing special about TM
other than it's high price.
On 07/06/2014 02:04 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
You seem to think that TM mantras are what makes TM special.
I would say it is the mantra + how TM is taught.
And the most
On 7/6/2014 5:01 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
All the Advaita experts contend that awareness is primal and
consciousness is relative.
I agree.
All the Advaita masters agree that awareness is one pure consciousness,
not two.
Work cited:
/'Consciousness Speaks'/
Conversations with Ramesh S.
Barry,
You have an odd habit of making generalizations without any factual support
for your assertions.
Please, read my reply to Salyavin for my position in this matter.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Nice rant, but wasted. You really can't talk sense to
Richard,
We don't have enough scientific data to answer that question at this moment.
IMO, scientists need to prove several theories about the nature of the universe
in order to answer that question. Specifically, the following questions have
to be answered:
1. Is the universe based
S3,
The argument for taxing the rich can be justified by the fact the rich people
have benefited from society in the form of government stability, public
schools, city infrastructure, skilled workers, culture and language. All of
these contributed to their ability to earn profits from
If MUM and the big shots there were worth a shit like they claim to be, they
would ALREADY have brought forth all the big guns they could to stop Hearltland
but they don't give damn about the folks at Overland or anyone else but
themselves. The idea they would take a bribe to keep quiet was
Salyavin,
It's apparent that physicists still have varying opinions about the quantum
string theory which can be settled by a scientific discovery which should
settle the questions and doubts about the phenomenal world.
John Hagelin is undoubtedly one of the scientists who is paving the
I agree - we're at one on this. My point is that we need to increase wages for
the lowest paid (which means they will also pay more in taxes) and stop the
richest setting their own astronomical pay rises - and so lowering the gap
between the well-off and the needy. Then the rich can't keep
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27 Michael Jackson mjackson74
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18 Bhairitu noozguru
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In 1930 economist John Maynard Keynes predicted the day would soon come when
technological progress would mean that wealth creation would be so great we
would have to work far less hours while still enjoying an improving standard of
living. The danger he warned about was that those who owned
This is especially for Sal, since you love Li'l Johnnie Hagelin so very much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIN8r9rgtUM
The Square Root of One Percent
View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Ouch! That doesn't sound very sympathetic or supportive, but I'll let Stevie
take you to task if he can spare a minute from knocking me.
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On 7/6/2014 2:52 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote:
On 07/06/2014 11:00 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that earth had been
invaded by aliens?
The aliens have
Regarding the often touted experiment in reducing crime rate in Wash. DC in
the early 90's:
Overall, there was an 18-percent reduction in violent crime, he told the press.
When a reporter asked, an 18-percent reduction compared to what, Hagelin
answered, compared to the level of violent crime
Q: You say the jnani is beyond.
Beyond what?
Beyond knowledge?
Maharaj:
Knowledge has its rising and setting.
Consciousness comes into being and goes out of being.
It is a matter of daily occurrence and observation.
We all know that sometimes we are conscious and sometimes not.
When
Taxes go to pay the interest on the debt and not the debt itself. We've
been lulled into the idea that taxes pay for our streets, roads, parks,
etc but in reality they are often hijacked and put in the general fund
to pay first the interest on the debt and then special projects that
benefit
Very nice Edg.
And presented in a succinct readable context.
Do you feel you have a glimpse of this reality? Experientially, or
intellectually?
For me, I feel it is something I can relate to on an intellectual level, but I
think I have a clearer understanding of it than I have had in
He addresses the fundamental difference of understanding consciousness from the
Western and Eastern philosophical views. This difference has become the center
of debate in understanding the physics for the creation of the universe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKVDSq_Hx0c
S3,
You've addressed the problem of society today--which is the equitable
distribution of wealth. In the USA, the issue is being constantly debated in
the issue of taxation by the Democrats and Republicans. The Republicans have
been traditionally touting for lower taxes and smaller
This trestle was built in 1921 and was recently revitalized for walkers to
enjoy the view and the structural visual of all that wood criss crossing as its
foundation. 650 feet long and 110 feet high this was once the route for tons
and tons of raw logs transported down Vancouver Island. This is
Christopher Columbus discovered the New World in 1492. While standing on
the beach exchanging gifts, one native inhabitant asked: But, Chris,
why do you call us /Indians//?/
Go figure.
On 7/6/2014 9:50 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Unless you adhere to the scientists who think consciousness is produced by the
brain, consciousness, awareness (I am using the terms synonymously here) lies
outside the mind and therefore the relationship of the mind to consciousness
cannot be understood by the mind directly since consciousness
That might be. Now go to Uganda and teach!
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
The teaching of TM is not unique. There is nothing special about TM other
than it's high price.
On 07/06/2014 02:04 PM, LEnglish5@... mailto:LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
On 7/6/2014 8:41 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Very nice Edg.
And presented in a succinct readable context.
Do you feel you have a glimpse of this reality? Experientially, or
intellectually?
For me, I feel it is something I can relate to on an intellectual
level, but
From: lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
You seem to think that TM mantras are what makes TM special.
YOU seem to think that TM is special. It's not. Neither are you, for practicing
it.
I would say it is the mantra + how TM is taught.
F
And the most
Hilarious. I left it out of my rant yesterday but Hagelin's claim that he's
finished Einsteins work is probably the most offensive thing he comes out with.
It was OK when it was kept to the Marshy channel where no one outside of the
faithful watched it but give it a public airing and it can
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