Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education Related to FFL? Of course this is packed relevant news to FF when we consider the numbers, our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. You don't live here but the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa. The local meditating university is a huge economic flywheel. Paste: I have been a Trustee of Maharishi University of Management for almost three years. My focus is generally in the field of campus reconstruction, sustainability, and master planning.Lately I have been reviewing the finances and the operating budget. I can honestly say that Michael Spivak and the Executive Council are working miracles with the available funds to maintain and expand our University. Every possible donation and resource is being used for the education and enlightenment of our students as well as our whole world family.The Annual Fund is a crucial contributor to MUM, sustaining our University in its role to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the world. The Fund supports student scholarships, faculty, staff, recruiting, academic programs, campus sustainability and reconstruction, and so much more.This year we project a shortfall of $300,000 in the Annual Fund from a temporary setback from one of our regular donor foundations. Having a firsthand look at the budget, I can tell you that we absolutely need to make up for this shortfall.Over the years, I have put myself out on a limb managing Maharishi Global Construction, building 50 Vastu homes and buildings in Fairfield/Vedic City, and constructing the Golden Dome Market and donating it to the University as a major source of revenue year after year. It has been an honor, a joy, a challenge, and a huge gift to my life being part of Maharishi's legacy. Maharishi once told me: “Just be thankful we were picked by Nature to be part of this Cosmic Event to bring Heaven on Earth.” Most of us, over many decades, have shared Maharishi's vision for the world and have been part of this huge transformation of time.We all know that Maharishi University of Management is a powerful source of Maharishi Vedic Science and its technologies going out to the world. This is an enormous responsibilityBoldly and humbly, I would like to ask your help. Please contribute to the Annual Fund drive that must be fulfilled by June 30. It is time once again to do what we always do, give and support without reservation to our cosmic mission to raise the consciousness of the world. This year we are counting on our donor family to double or even triple our giving to set MUM on an unrestricted path.Click here to make your gift online.Thank you so much for your consideration.Jai Guru Dev Combined with this post this is all very evidently newsworthy to the FF community. What zip code do you live in anyway? I would say you are just harassing my bringing this substantial and material content to FFL with this trollish criticism of yours published below here, harassing my posting this content about the local meditating university to FFL. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote : Seems like a solicitation to me. Ain't that agin the rules, Mr. Moderator? Would you be keen to see a fund raising solicitation from Amma? Or Sri Sri Ravi?Or a group that is opposed to TM and the TMO? Your biases are showing Bucky. From the Fairfield Life Yahoo page - note the nest to last entry: Messages are not moderated. Just sayin'. Group Settings - This is a restricted group. -
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
This group is called Fairfield Life. MUM happens to be the only college in this town, so any news or information about MUM, such as that contained in the post Doug made, is relevant to this group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So why are you not posting donation solicitations for some of these groups other than the TMO? You are the one who posted the solicitation originally, not someone else. If you are so interested in the health of non-TM meditation groups and organizations, why aren't you posting the donations pages of those non-TM groups? Sure hope someone else weighs in on this. Like Barry - but he ain't allowed to post now is he? From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education DearMJ, you are assuming a lot of things about me in attacking me this way on FFL. A lot of different spiritual groups work and teach in Fairfield, Iowa and as they may have things to publish as to FairfieldLife I have not opinion as to the likes of content as folks may bring content in to this group so long as they are written and presented well within the margins provided for by the yahoo-groups guidelines. In exercise of practice towards self-moderation you may remember those guidelines by a reading of them at: https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma Have a nice Sunday. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education Related to FFL? Of course this is packed relevant news to FF when we consider the numbers, our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. You don't live here but the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa. The local meditating university is a huge economic flywheel. Paste: I have been a Trustee of Maharishi University of Management for almost three years. My focus is generally in the field of campus reconstruction, sustainability, and master planning. Lately I have been reviewing the finances and the operating budget. I can honestly say that Michael Spivak and the Executive Council are working miracles with the available funds to maintain and expand our University. Every possible donation and resource is being used for the education and enlightenment of our students as well as our whole world family. The Annual Fund is a crucial contributor to MUM, sustaining our University in its role to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the world. The Fund supports student scholarships, faculty, staff, recruiting, academic programs, campus sustainability and reconstruction, and so much more. This year we project a shortfall of $300,000 in the Annual Fund from a temporary setback from one of our regular donor foundations. Having a firsthand look at the budget, I can tell you that we absolutely need to make up for this shortfall. Over the years, I have put myself out on a limb managing Maharishi Global Construction, building 50 Vastu homes and buildings in Fairfield/Vedic City, and constructing the Golden Dome Market and donating it to the University as a major source of revenue year after year. It has been an honor, a joy, a challenge, and a huge gift to my life being part of Maharishi's legacy. Maharishi once told
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : snip Share: In thanks, 2 Vedic bits I love about Brahman: Far in the distance I see the owner of the house reverberating. LG: https://youtu.be/VZtj5Aa1w4w https://youtu.be/VZtj5Aa1w4w. Now excuse me while I go puke...forgive me, I never did like those Mother Divine songs! Share: Which I take to mean that the person I think is the least like me, is actually an expression of my Self. Stops one in one's tracks...if one is lucky! LG: Nice verse. Not only what you think but everything...all this is That on the level of all experience. Those that know, don't talk, and those that talk, don't know. End of discussion. :) Share: Braham says: my indestructible maya. Or as Tom Traynor may have said, it's all just the Divine playing peekaboo, pretending not to see itself. Just for the play of it. LG: No comment. :) Share: Wishing fathers and everyone a very playful day. LG: Thank you Share. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? Share, you caught me completely by surprise with a response...it's good to hear from you! It was not my intention to draw you out of lurkerdom...I also enjoy lurking in the shadows...sinister laugh...and really don't understand my fascination with this place unless it's just to see what nuggets I can glean from the posts...you've just offered up a few. Anyway, it's good to see old friends returning to the place and I'm enjoying their posts. There's a satisfaction...dare I say comfort...in knowing that we're not going to change who we are, yet it doesn't matter, because it shouldn't prevent us from perhaps finding some value in what each other has to say...we are always in control of how what we read influences us, and can turn the reaction/response switch on and off. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : dear laughingG, thank you, not the least of which, for putting me with such interesting, dare I say riveting, posters, the 3 Rs (-: To my amazement, I have become a lurker, and a happy one at that. Same on the Peak. And the recent FFL developments fascinate me. Most everything about online communication fascinates me. Are all those very different voices really inside my own awareness? I think so. Astonishment! If we're not at peace with a certain voice that seems to be outside us, it does no good to censor it. It will merely show up in our lives somewhere else. Better to make peace with it, with all the parts of our self. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve, Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I read, I think that I can sense the author's intent in what they are writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case I chose not to respond although I feel bad for the writer, sometimes I have the aha moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle and I got the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you get the idea. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Your nightly Turq post
I hope we get a chance to find out. But, I will tell you, and I think you know, Doug, as moderator is no impediment to people coming out the woodwork. As you point out, trolling from both directions has been eliminated. Let the process play out some. And, again, as you say, the preliminary results are promising. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Usually at this time of night, all the FFL posters would have been asleep hours ago, but Turq, waking up in Europe, would almost always have something to post, and thus the last minute check of FFL would be profitable for me. But now . . . . This is like suddenly having Blue Laws. Town rolls up the streets at 9:30 P.M. Question: With so many posters coming out of the woodwork with two major trolls gone, the question I find most delicious is: How many more lurkers would begin anew here, if Doug were gone also? I mean, the results are very promising, and a fellah just wonders stuff for no reason at all, but here was this question coming to me like a stray thought in Maharishi's brain that got him to leave the cave. Got pay attention to these odd notions. Ya know? Could be 2001-something wonderful-ish. Like: Rick brings all those he interviews to this audience knowing the questions would be deeply considered and profound and edifying to all. Could you imagine how bright Rick's smile would be if he could offer us as a resource unto these would-be helpers? But would Doug allow Rick to do this??
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
DearMJ, you are assuming a lot of things about me in attacking me this way on FFL. A lot of different spiritual groups work and teach in Fairfield, Iowa and as they may have things to publish as to FairfieldLife I have not opinion as to the likes of content as folks may bring content in to this group so long as they are written and presented well within the margins provided for by the yahoo-groups guidelines. In exercise of practice towards self-moderation you may remember those guidelines by a reading of them at: https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm Have a nice Sunday. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote : And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education Related to FFL? Of course this is packed relevant news to FF when we consider the numbers, our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. You don't live here but the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa. The local meditating university is a huge economic flywheel. Paste: I have been a Trustee of Maharishi University of Management for almost three years. My focus is generally in the field of campus reconstruction, sustainability, and master planning. Lately I have been reviewing the finances and the operating budget. I can honestly say that Michael Spivak and the Executive Council are working miracles with the available funds to maintain and expand our University. Every possible donation and resource is being used for the education and enlightenment of our students as well as our whole world family. The Annual Fund is a crucial contributor to MUM, sustaining our University in its role to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the world. The Fund supports student scholarships, faculty, staff, recruiting, academic programs, campus sustainability and reconstruction, and so much more. This year we project a shortfall of $300,000 in the Annual Fund from a temporary setback from one of our regular donor foundations. Having a firsthand look at the budget, I can tell you that we absolutely need to make up for this shortfall. Over the years, I have put myself out on a limb managing Maharishi Global Construction, building 50 Vastu homes and buildings in Fairfield/Vedic City, and constructing the Golden Dome Market and donating it to the University as a major source of revenue year after year. It has been an honor, a joy, a challenge, and a huge gift to my life being part of Maharishi's legacy. Maharishi once told me: “Just be thankful we were picked by Nature to be part of this Cosmic Event to bring Heaven on Earth.” Most of us, over many decades, have shared Maharishi's vision for the world and have been part of this huge transformation of time. We all know that Maharishi University of Management is a powerful source of Maharishi Vedic Science and its technologies going out to the world. This is an enormous responsibility Boldly and humbly, I would like to ask your help. Please contribute to the Annual Fund drive that must be fulfilled by June 30. It is time once again to do what we always do, give and support without reservation to our cosmic mission to raise the consciousness of the world. This year we are counting on our donor family to double or even triple our giving to set MUM on an unrestricted path. Click here http://www.mum.edu/annualfund to make your gift online. Thank you so much for your consideration. Jai
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[FairfieldLife] Significance?
Celebrating Insignificance Day Today, 21 June 2015, we celebrate the 30th annual pean to our insignificance. We are tiny points of dim light that briefly shine in a vast universe of impersonal forces, only to be extinguished after an average of some 65 years. As of this date this year 27,800,000 of us have perished as part of the recycling processes of existence. We and our consciousness are expendable. Please do not send donations, you are not that important. Blast from the Past Quotation of the Day 'And yet spiritual seekers throughout the centuries have managed to find fault with the stuff that other seekers -- usually from other traditions -- have found Cool about the universe they perceived around them when they didn't.' 'What's up with that, eh?' Copyright © 1985–2015 Foundation for Insignificance
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Ah, it's good that the whole family has returned home for the holidays...I raise my glass. It was starting to get a little boring around here...let's keep it civil, shall we, so we can enjoy each other's company for as long as we can. For those who must go, have a safe journey, and hurry back. Cheers... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Me: In a Southern town in the 1950's or in Saddam's Iraq maybe. Your statement is absurd on some levels and offensive on others. In fact rather than point out its many flaws I will simply repeat what you said and ask the reader to let images come into their mind where this would be appropriate: Judy: If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. Me: In what time and place would such a repugnant idea be promoted? Although Maharishi subscribed to this authoritarian ideology, as an American who grew up in the 60's I do not. I am opposed to this view of authority figures and offer my own. They work for US, not the other way around. If you are a shitty leader you get opposition from people who actually do know better, and if you are a good one you get opposition from people who just think they do. The moderator's job here is not to crush dissent in FFL members when they point out that he is not serving the forum's needs properly. I do believe that you may have outed some of Buck/Doug's impression of what his role is here. But since he is not telling us why Barry was cut off specifically we can only speculate. Judy: Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Me: The old Judy playbook technique of stating the opposite of what I said about my intentions in my own writing, as if this makes it so. I comes from the belief that she knows better than I do myself what my meaning was in what I wrote myself about myself. It is a byproduct of grandiosity. Judy: Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Me: You have been peeking in and out of lurkdom a few times lately with your most recent posting streak the most prolific. Each time you come out of lurkdom is a different time because you are the one making a point to tell us that you may not return to post again. Judy: Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. Me: Right Judy. I am a poopy pants and you are a virtuous person among the dishonest unwashed. I would have hoped that your sabbatical would have helped you get over yourself a bit but I am afraid it has not. Your misinterpretation of my meaning and your projection on it is at the basis of your weird charge. Rather than untangle the mess you made of what I said I will just end here with Louis Armstrong: You blows what you is. That explains it all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional outrage buzz Judy. That was neither intended nor implied in what I wrote. I hadn't even conspired that as an angle when I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, Iowa Questions
MJ, Living in the meditating communities of Fairfield, Iowa yep there are group meditations going on. There are satsangs that go on throughout the week that include sitting in group meditations. These have developed over the years as the administration of access to the Dome group meditation became more exclusive. But in the cycle of every week there is a sequence of meditations that you can sit with while in Fairfield. Every Thursday the Weekly Reader gets published and by examining that folks can find these satsangs or groups that sit in meditation. See point 2 below. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote : Good questions. Yes more work is being done by the labor of outside employment. Is on a similar course like with the trajectories other spiritual millenarian revolutionary ashram-like villages in American history, like with spiritual practice groups in aspects of transcendentalism in the Shakers, Amana, Harmonists, Zoar and old Quaker meetings. Seems in a life-cycle the coming to rely on outside labor to keep the institutions of the groups going can become more and more necessary towards an end. Look at these two posts on aspects of the demographics of this.. Life-cycle within Communal Spiritual Groups https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/ChNcesJm1Cs https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/communal-studies-forum/ChNcesJm1Cs Yes there are group meditations in town that are not sponsored by the movement. Look in the Fairfield Weekly Reader to find these or ask around when you get here. There are a number of group meditations in the larger meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa 'separate' from the ones facilitated by the TM movement. There is now a facility downtown for group practice of TM meditation and TM-Siddhis but you need to be certified by the current TM movement with a current badge to meditate with a TM.org facilitated group. There are other group meditations with meditators to choose from otherwise in Fairfield too. Fairfield is quite a mature meditating community with spiritual practice. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote : Since I was once a resident of Fairfield, IA, I was wondering a couple things, so if any of you who live in FF might know... First does MUM still use what were once called town employees? Meaning of course non-meditating Fairfield residents who did jobs at the university. All the ones I worked with were pretty good people and in general more reliable workers than their TM counterparts. The other thing I already asked Bucky, but he ain't answered - busy with the lambing I expect. The question is are there unofficial places for people to do group meditation or TMSP in Fairfield? Places not run or monitored by the Movement? Thanks in advance for the answers.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present in the newest moderator. Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-) P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
Baloney. In Doug's first reply to my post, he mentioned both our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. and the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa This implies first that the community of Fairfield itself might fold if the university went under which in my opinion is nonsense. Fairfield survived the demise of Parson's College and it will survive the demise of MUM when Girish sells it off to fund his retirement. Since Doug is using the existence of other non-TM groups there as part of his excuse to solicit funds for the TMO, I think he should acknowledge that if the University went out of business (which I sincerely hope it does one day soon) there would still be a burgeoning spiritual community that would blithely continue on its way, not giving a damn about the demise of the TMO in Fairfield. What Doug isn't saying is that even though he has been abused by the TMO, he still believes in the magic of the group TMSP and believes it is the ticket to world salvation, which is why he is posting a call for donations for MUM and by extension for the Movement. He still isn't telling us how he will feel if others post other spiritual group donations for other groups that also exist in Fairfield. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education This group is called Fairfield Life. MUM happens to be the only college in this town, so any news or information about MUM, such as that contained in the post Doug made, is relevant to this group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So why are you not posting donation solicitations for some of these groups other than the TMO? You are the one who posted the solicitation originally, not someone else. If you are so interested in the health of non-TM meditation groups and organizations, why aren't you posting the donations pages of those non-TM groups? Sure hope someone else weighs in on this. Like Barry - but he ain't allowed to post now is he? From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education DearMJ, you are assuming a lot ofthings about me in attacking me this way on FFL. A lot of differentspiritual groups work and teach in Fairfield, Iowa and as they mayhave things to publish as to FairfieldLife I have not opinion as tothe likes of content as folks may bring content in to this group solong as they are written and presented well within the marginsprovided for by the yahoo-groups guidelines. In exercise of practicetowards self-moderation you may remember those guidelines by areading of them at:https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htmHave a nice Sunday.-JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education Related to FFL? Of course this is packed relevant news to FF when we consider the numbers, our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. You don't live here but the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa. The local meditating university is a huge economic flywheel. Paste: I have been a Trustee of Maharishi University of Management for almost three years. My focus is generally in the field of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Obviously not the entire group since some of us quite liked him and his posts.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:56 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum
for me?
I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is
toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his
posting privileges at some point?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was
kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall
not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a
subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I
don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of
people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In
Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is
just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually
unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent.
What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so
we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced
vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated.
In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing
to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the
the current purge.
1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug
2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the
pompous powers that be in the movement.
3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I
object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about
his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting
banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.)
Game on! Who will be next?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye.
- Forwarded Message -
From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@...
To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@...
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM
Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access
to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on
supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post
#416493 he explicitly said:
Inmoderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state ofevolution” and
I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and notone is on moderation
in any way from this point. I would only suggestin our going forward that folks
take the time to actually read theYahoo-groups guidelines if they want to
continue fluidly posting onFFL. We should appreciate your cooperative
collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou!
Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright
dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me
bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it
for me.
Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings
with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there
over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present
in the newest moderator.
Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-)
P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Of sound mind
On 06/20/2015 08:13 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re overstimulated intellects: That doesn't strike me as a common problem in today's world! This is the age of dumbing down. But most people don't practice meditation do they? They are mostly in serial consciousness. They are distracted (purposefully) by the media. They are given false personalities (idols) to emulate. Keeping them dumb makes for good consumers and well behaved puppies. However an overstimulated intellect points to a side effect of using such a class of mantra. The intellect isn't particularly that governable to given to offbeat tangents. We might all it intellectual masturbation which has certainly been seen on FFL. Some folks think that enlightenment means you know everything so if feeling a little enlightened tend to construct some weird conclusions about things not really very fact based or they know little about. Do you know if TM teachers were ever taught that - beyond the general stress-reducing effects of TM and talk of transcending and contacting pure consciousness - specific mantras could alter meditators' personalities in definite directions? If the theory is valid doesn't it make sense that when allocating mantras to newbies you could ask them what traits they wanted to develop! TM teachers are parrots of a very simple yoga lite technique. It's something that astrologers and ayurvedic practitioners might teach as well as minor tantrics. Siddhis are intended for developing certain areas of interest. The line is very blurred between what is a siddhi and what is a mantra since classic siddhis are often just mantras. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I've said many times that due to the use of the Saraswati mantra TMers often seem to have overstimulated intellects. Real gurus give students mantras that are balancing. On 06/20/2015 06:50 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Re my post: . . . one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? . . . : No one responded to my query, no doubt in part because I was alluding to a flippant idea that someone could tell what someone else's TM mantra was merely by studying their interests. But perhaps someone with know-how about these seed syllables could come back to me if I re-phrase the question as follows: Why is it that certain sounds have become linked with particular gods? Setting aside pious myth-making and occult-cum-mystical theories isn't the obvious answer that the vibrations of certain mantras initiated changes in a meditator's personality that could be identified with the characteristics associated with said gods? If that's the case (what other explanation could there be?) is it ever suggested by Indian teachers today (or in the classical past) that adopting specific syllables guarantees the desired, wished-for traits the novice wants? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : Here's a thought: these bīja - seed syllable - mantras though not having precise meanings are said to carry connections to spiritual principles. Look again at our TMO mantras whose effects are known. Take one example. I won't mention the syllable (!) but one of the mantras used is that of Saraswati. She is the Hindu goddess of knowledge, music, arts, wisdom and learning. So surely someone who was given this bija and used it during TM would gravitate towards a life centred on science or the arts? There are charts published on the Net claiming that knowing someone is male or female; and knowing their age you can see which mantra they were given by their TM teacher. I don't know how reliable those charts are but wouldn't it be an impressive vindication of the TMO's claims if you could tell someone what his or her TM mantra was merely after studying their behaviour and interests! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not sure, but I think OM was used for monks and nuns that learned TM. Aha! I didn't know that. Makes sense - if MMY really believed that it was only suitable for recluses. I think it's been mentioned before on this site that the TMO line about OM isn't accepted by any other spiritual groups. We're encouraged to allow the syllable to vary as it wishes during a meditation session. I wonder if those who find their bija mantra changing spontaneously into OM are getting a hint from their deeper self that they are suitable for a
[FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
Exactly. I had what I guess was a heart chakra opening. It followed the description of my heart melting, and it was exquisite. That was the sensation. Why would I even care what were the physiological parameters that may have went along with it. On the other hand, now, for whatever reason, I find myself drawn to thinking about my different body systems: breath, intake, elimination. Not sure where this little research project will lead, but just following the prompts. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re With ideas like 'heart chakra' you have to provide real demonstrable confirmation of the existence of this feature: Does everything have to be validated by scientific, objective standards? It doesn't have to be but if you want to be able to say you understand how it operates then yes! I can't see the mind operating independently of the brain and it's physical support system. Be highly odd if it did but there are plenty of correlations just not tenough to paint anything but the roughest picture as yet. Can't subjective experience count as evidence for an individual who has experimented with activating the chakra? Absolutely, it's the only experience of it we have but what does having an experience like that involve in a biochemical sense? This assumes that all experience is biochemical in origin and I see no contrary evidence - even Maharishi was with me on that one, even if he did get a bit confused about physics etc. I wonder if it's even possible to construct a biochemical model of experience that would feel even remotely satisfying to us. I think you'd have to be pure Spock to just nod and say that yes, the mixture of seratonin and dopamine is just right when watching the sunrise on new years day. Isn't it interesting that even here in the West we talk about the heart - not as an organ which pumps blood around the body - but in a touchy-feely sense. Why would we do that and why do we all recognise its appropriateness? Wiki tells me that the heart chakra is also associated with love and compassion, charity to others. Heartbreak, why does it hurt in the chest so much? Is there some adrenalin causing the muscles to spasm, or is it connected to the moods in the brain for some evolutionary reason? A lot of work needed yet... When people say something they feel is vitally true in a heartfelt way it is a universal habit that they hold their overlapping hands over the top of their chests. (Or just their dominant hand.) Here's Amanda Knox! I might be imagining it but did I read somewhere that the placing of thoughts and emotions is cultural and that it has changed a lot over time? Will have to dig out a source for that one... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : First of all the idea 'heart chakra' has to be discovered as a physical construct rather than being conceived as a metaphysical imaginary entity. What is missing so far in artificial intelligence is awareness. What is consciousness that a computer could be conscious? One of the scientific theories of consciousness (integrated information theory) indicates that simple neural nets could be conscious but a complex one might not be. This would mean consciousness is an emergent phenomenon. Some other theories (the unprovable ones) postulate panpsychism, the view that consciousness, mind or psyche is a universal feature of all things, and the primordial feature from which all other characteristics are derived. This is the basic idea in the Upanishads, Taoism, and Zen. Panpsychism takes the idea of gods or god and diffuses it, completely abstracting it, de-anthropomorphising it, removing the intentional stance as impetus for action, de-entifying it entirely. It basically makes consciousness disappear by making it what everything is. In this case, supposing that were true, any computer given sensory hardware would be conscious, but not necessarily self-aware, which would require a particular topology of the neural net. In speaking of the heart, we could consider psychopaths, which are often engaging, seemingly caring people, but inside they have zero compassion, zero empathy. A computer neural net could be programmed, or even taught, to give the appearance and behaviour of emotional warmth without actually having it. On the other hand, would that programming actually result in it having heart? An actor, or a psychopath can fake having heart, so perhaps it would depend on how many layers devoted to the feature exist in the neural net, how deep it really went. In mixing computer science and physics with ideas like 'heart chakra' you have to provide real demonstrable confirmation of the existence of this feature, not just postulate it is there because someone planted the idea in your mind. I have heard the idea for over 40 years, but don't know if it is real, and I suspect
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
Oh, for the record, I sent off a small check on Thursday. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Well, is this progress? From grabbing at straws, to grabbing at air? (-: For the record, Rick has always been one to post notices of this sort as well. As Feste noted, it falls straight into the theme of FF, and MUM. Give it up, MJ. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Baloney. In Doug's first reply to my post, he mentioned both our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. and the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa This implies first that the community of Fairfield itself might fold if the university went under which in my opinion is nonsense. Fairfield survived the demise of Parson's College and it will survive the demise of MUM when Girish sells it off to fund his retirement. Since Doug is using the existence of other non-TM groups there as part of his excuse to solicit funds for the TMO, I think he should acknowledge that if the University went out of business (which I sincerely hope it does one day soon) there would still be a burgeoning spiritual community that would blithely continue on its way, not giving a damn about the demise of the TMO in Fairfield. What Doug isn't saying is that even though he has been abused by the TMO, he still believes in the magic of the group TMSP and believes it is the ticket to world salvation, which is why he is posting a call for donations for MUM and by extension for the Movement. He still isn't telling us how he will feel if others post other spiritual group donations for other groups that also exist in Fairfield. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education This group is called Fairfield Life. MUM happens to be the only college in this town, so any news or information about MUM, such as that contained in the post Doug made, is relevant to this group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So why are you not posting donation solicitations for some of these groups other than the TMO? You are the one who posted the solicitation originally, not someone else. If you are so interested in the health of non-TM meditation groups and organizations, why aren't you posting the donations pages of those non-TM groups? Sure hope someone else weighs in on this. Like Barry - but he ain't allowed to post now is he? From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education DearMJ, you are assuming a lot of things about me in attacking me this way on FFL. A lot of different spiritual groups work and teach in Fairfield, Iowa and as they may have things to publish as to FairfieldLife I have not opinion as to the likes of content as folks may bring content in to this group so long as they are written and presented well within the margins provided for by the yahoo-groups guidelines. In exercise of practice towards self-moderation you may remember those guidelines by a reading of them at: https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma Have a nice Sunday. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Quiet Day
Thanks for posting this! I am going to take adavantage of it while it's still possible. Funny, it was another 3-2 vote by the FCC. This should be an election issue in 2016. The Cons love the robocalls.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
One of my favorite mantras is question authority. ;-) Regarding MMY, right before I went to TTC, a TM teacher told me, you are about to have one of the most wonderful experiences in your life and one of the worst. He suggested to play the game which I did and didn't get bumped off to the course. I always played the game with the movement though there were many circumstances where it was not an issue. On 06/21/2015 09:01 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Me: In a Southern town in the 1950's or in Saddam's Iraq maybe. Your statement is absurd on some levels and offensive on others. In fact rather than point out its many flaws I will simply repeat what you said and ask the reader to let images come into their mind where this would be appropriate: Judy: If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. Me: In what time and place would such a repugnant idea be promoted? Although Maharishi subscribed to this authoritarian ideology, as an American who grew up in the 60's I do not. I am opposed to this view of authority figures and offer my own. They work for US, not the other way around. If you are a shitty leader you get opposition from people who actually do know better, and if you are a good one you get opposition from people who just think they do. The moderator's job here is not to crush dissent in FFL members when they point out that he is not serving the forum's needs properly. I do believe that you may have outed some of Buck/Doug's impression of what his role is here. But since he is not telling us why Barry was cut off specific! ally we can only speculate. Judy: Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Me: The old Judy playbook technique of stating the opposite of what I said about my intentions in my own writing, as if this makes it so. I comes from the belief that she knows better than I do myself what my meaning was in what I wrote myself about myself. It is a byproduct of grandiosity. Judy: Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Me: You have been peeking in and out of lurkdom a few times lately with your most recent posting streak the most prolific. Each time you come out of lurkdom is a different time because you are the one making a point to tell us that you may not return to post again. Judy: Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. Me: Right Judy. I am a poopy pants and you are a virtuous person among the dishonest unwashed. I would have hoped that your sabbatical would have helped you get over yourself a bit but I am afraid it has not. Your misinterpretation of my meaning and your projection on it is at the basis of your weird charge. Rather than untangle the mess you made of what I said I will just end here with Louis Armstrong: You blows what you is. That explains it all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the r! ight thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Nothing because I played the game. I did have a couple members of my group that got a talking to though. They were getting fed up with some of the rules. Then they started playing the game so they as Maharishi would say could get the goods. I'm not sure if anyone was disallowed becoming a teacher except for one guy with a speech impediment. He felt okay about it as Maharishi met with him privately. Towards the end those of us who had already passed the required tests helped those who were still having a problem. After all, why would you want to spend 6 month cooped up and not get what you came for? On 06/21/2015 09:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: what were you doing that could have gotten you kicked off? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? One of my favorite mantras is question authority. ;-) Regarding MMY, right before I went to TTC, a TM teacher told me, you are about to have one of the most wonderful experiences in your life and one of the worst. He suggested to play the game which I did and didn't get bumped off to the course. I always played the game with the movement though there were many circumstances where it was not an issue. On 06/21/2015 09:01 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com mailto:curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Me: In a Southern town in the 1950's or in Saddam's Iraq maybe. Your statement is absurd on some levels and offensive on others. In fact rather than point out its many flaws I will simply repeat what you said and ask the reader to let images come into their mind where this would be appropriate: Judy: If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. Me: In what time and place would such a repugnant idea be promoted? Although Maharishi subscribed to this authoritarian ideology, as an American who grew up in the 60's I do not. I am opposed to this view of authority figures and offer my own. They work for US, not the other way around. If you are a shitty leader you get opposition from people who actually do know better, and if you are a good one you get opposition from people who just think they do. The moderator's job here is not to crush dissent in FFL members when they point out that he is not serving the forum's needs properly. I do believe that you may have outed some of Buck/Doug's impression of what his role is here. But since he is not telling us why Barry was cut off specific! ally we can only speculate. Judy: Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Me: The old Judy playbook technique of stating the opposite of what I said about my intentions in my own writing, as if this makes it so. I comes from the belief that she knows better than I do myself what my meaning was in what I wrote myself about myself. It is a byproduct of grandiosity. Judy: Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Me: You have been peeking in and out of lurkdom a few times lately with your most recent posting streak the most prolific. Each time you come out of lurkdom is a different time because you are the one making a point to tell us that you may not return to post again. Judy: Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. Me: Right Judy. I am a poopy pants and you are a virtuous person among the dishonest unwashed. I would have hoped that your sabbatical would have helped you get over yourself a bit but I am afraid it has not. Your misinterpretation of my meaning and your projection on it is at the basis of your weird charge. Rather than untangle the mess you made of what I said I will just end here with Louis Armstrong: You blows what you is. That explains it all. ---In
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present in the newest moderator. Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-) P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone from FFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner. We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking our additional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in the controls. From Soccer.. A red card will be shown to a player who has committed a serious offence such as violent conduct or an illegal and purposeful obstruction of a goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team. A red card will also be shown to a player who accumulates two yellow cards for more minor offenses. These guys who have presently been ejected from FFL were well beyond accumulating two yellow cards. It was quite time for their ejections from FFL to secure our alignment as a yahoo-group with the yahoo-guidelines. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
So why are you not posting donation solicitations for some of these groups other than the TMO? You are the one who posted the solicitation originally, not someone else. If you are so interested in the health of non-TM meditation groups and organizations, why aren't you posting the donations pages of those non-TM groups? Sure hope someone else weighs in on this. Like Barry - but he ain't allowed to post now is he? From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education DearMJ, you are assuming a lot ofthings about me in attacking me this way on FFL. A lot of differentspiritual groups work and teach in Fairfield, Iowa and as they mayhave things to publish as to FairfieldLife I have not opinion as tothe likes of content as folks may bring content in to this group solong as they are written and presented well within the marginsprovided for by the yahoo-groups guidelines. In exercise of practicetowards self-moderation you may remember those guidelines by areading of them at: https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htmHave a nice Sunday.-JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackso...@yahoo.com wrote : And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education Related to FFL? Of course this is packed relevant news to FF when we consider the numbers, our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. You don't live here but the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa. The local meditating university is a huge economic flywheel. Paste: I have been a Trustee of Maharishi University of Management for almost three years. My focus is generally in the field of campus reconstruction, sustainability, and master planning.Lately I have been reviewing the finances and the operating budget. I can honestly say that Michael Spivak and the Executive Council are working miracles with the available funds to maintain and expand our University. Every possible donation and resource is being used for the education and enlightenment of our students as well as our whole world family.The Annual Fund is a crucial contributor to MUM, sustaining our University in its role to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the world. The Fund supports student scholarships, faculty, staff, recruiting, academic programs, campus sustainability and reconstruction, and so much more.This year we project a shortfall of $300,000 in the Annual Fund from a temporary setback from one of our regular donor foundations. Having a firsthand look at the budget, I can tell you that we absolutely need to make up for this shortfall.Over the years, I have put myself out on a limb managing Maharishi Global Construction, building 50 Vastu homes and buildings in Fairfield/Vedic City, and constructing the Golden Dome Market and donating it to the University as a major source of revenue year after year. It has been an honor, a joy, a challenge, and a huge gift to my life being part of Maharishi's legacy. Maharishi once told me: “Just be thankful we were picked by Nature to be part of this Cosmic Event to bring Heaven on Earth.” Most of us, over many decades, have shared Maharishi's vision for the world and have been part of this huge transformation of time.We all know that Maharishi University of Management is a powerful source of Maharishi Vedic Science and its technologies going out to the world. This is an enormous
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
Well, is this progress? From grabbing at straws, to grabbing at air? (-: For the record, Rick has always been one to post notices of this sort as well. As Feste noted, it falls straight into the theme of FF, and MUM. Give it up, MJ. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Baloney. In Doug's first reply to my post, he mentioned both our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. and the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa This implies first that the community of Fairfield itself might fold if the university went under which in my opinion is nonsense. Fairfield survived the demise of Parson's College and it will survive the demise of MUM when Girish sells it off to fund his retirement. Since Doug is using the existence of other non-TM groups there as part of his excuse to solicit funds for the TMO, I think he should acknowledge that if the University went out of business (which I sincerely hope it does one day soon) there would still be a burgeoning spiritual community that would blithely continue on its way, not giving a damn about the demise of the TMO in Fairfield. What Doug isn't saying is that even though he has been abused by the TMO, he still believes in the magic of the group TMSP and believes it is the ticket to world salvation, which is why he is posting a call for donations for MUM and by extension for the Movement. He still isn't telling us how he will feel if others post other spiritual group donations for other groups that also exist in Fairfield. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education This group is called Fairfield Life. MUM happens to be the only college in this town, so any news or information about MUM, such as that contained in the post Doug made, is relevant to this group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : So why are you not posting donation solicitations for some of these groups other than the TMO? You are the one who posted the solicitation originally, not someone else. If you are so interested in the health of non-TM meditation groups and organizations, why aren't you posting the donations pages of those non-TM groups? Sure hope someone else weighs in on this. Like Barry - but he ain't allowed to post now is he? From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education DearMJ, you are assuming a lot of things about me in attacking me this way on FFL. A lot of different spiritual groups work and teach in Fairfield, Iowa and as they may have things to publish as to FairfieldLife I have not opinion as to the likes of content as folks may bring content in to this group so long as they are written and presented well within the margins provided for by the yahoo-groups guidelines. In exercise of practice towards self-moderation you may remember those guidelines by a reading of them at: https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm https://policies.yahoo.com/us/en/yahoo/guidelines/groups/index.htm?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma Have a nice Sunday. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education Related
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
One of the forums I'm on has very strict rules about what to avoid discussing. My bet is that the original founders had a BBS back in the 1980s and watched as flame wars developed. So they barred religious and political discussion. And being a forum where there are specific topics moderators will delete posts when they go off topic. That's why a lot of forums have an anything goes discussion section. I've always said FFL fills that need for folks who are or have been involved in TM to discuss stuff that might be considered off-topic in pure spiritual forums. It's often interesting to see where people are going with their lives, what they like to cook or what TV shows or movies they've seen. Either Rick gave the moderation to Doug to watch him fail or kill off FFL so he didn't need to do so. On 06/21/2015 07:50 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... *To:* Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... *Sent:* Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM *Subject:* Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? */It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said:/* In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! */Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
Michael, This type of reporting has been going on from Day 1, because it pertains to FF, and to MUM. Let it go son. Your case is weak. You're grabbing a straws, and you come across as petty and bitter. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And I would say you are full of crap. Your bias towards TM and MUM are taking over. I don't know exactly what the policy is on soliciting funds here on FFL, but I think Rick used to frown on it. You also didn't answer my question as to how you would feel if other meditation groups like Sri Sri Ravi Shankar or the Ananda people or any others began to post donation solicitation? To be fair, you would have to allow it, and then what would FFL become? There is also the fact that a lot of people on FFL feel the organization you are soliciting funds for is a dishonest one that misuses funds and uses monies to fund highly dubious projects, like keeping the pundits behind razor wire etc. Not to mention that the university continually touts its utterly non-scientific schlock as science. You are asking people to fund the likes of Hagelin who is a joke in real scientific circles. If you are gonna be an unbiased moderator (which you aren't) you have to consider all sides of the question, not just Oh, we have to keep Marshy's cash cow going so we can save the world! Let's hear from other FF Lifers as to their opinions on this. From: dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education Related to FFL? Of course this is packed relevant news to FF when we consider the numbers, our communal well-being here and our very survival as a community. You don't live here but the Welfare of the meditating university in Fairfield should be everyone's interest in living in Fairfield, Iowa. The local meditating university is a huge economic flywheel. Paste: I have been a Trustee of Maharishi University of Management for almost three years. My focus is generally in the field of campus reconstruction, sustainability, and master planning. Lately I have been reviewing the finances and the operating budget. I can honestly say that Michael Spivak and the Executive Council are working miracles with the available funds to maintain and expand our University. Every possible donation and resource is being used for the education and enlightenment of our students as well as our whole world family. The Annual Fund is a crucial contributor to MUM, sustaining our University in its role to bring Maharishi's knowledge to the world. The Fund supports student scholarships, faculty, staff, recruiting, academic programs, campus sustainability and reconstruction, and so much more. This year we project a shortfall of $300,000 in the Annual Fund from a temporary setback from one of our regular donor foundations. Having a firsthand look at the budget, I can tell you that we absolutely need to make up for this shortfall. Over the years, I have put myself out on a limb managing Maharishi Global Construction, building 50 Vastu homes and buildings in Fairfield/Vedic City, and constructing the Golden Dome Market and donating it to the University as a major source of revenue year after year. It has been an honor, a joy, a challenge, and a huge gift to my life being part of Maharishi's legacy. Maharishi once told me: “Just be thankful we were picked by Nature to be part of this Cosmic Event to bring Heaven on Earth.” Most of us, over many decades, have shared Maharishi's vision for the world and have been part of this huge transformation of time. We all know that Maharishi University of Management is a powerful source of Maharishi Vedic Science and its technologies going out to the world. This is an enormous responsibility Boldly and humbly, I would like to ask your help. Please contribute to the Annual Fund drive that must be fulfilled by June 30. It is time once again to do what we always do, give and support without reservation to our cosmic mission to raise the consciousness of the world. This year we are counting on our donor family to double or even triple our giving to set MUM on an unrestricted path. Click here http://www.mum.edu/annualfund to make your gift online. Thank you so much for your consideration. Jai Guru Dev Combined with this post this is all very evidently newsworthy to the FF community. What zip code do you live in anyway? I would say you are just harassing my bringing this substantial and material content to FFL with this trollish criticism of yours published below here, harassing my posting this content about the local meditating university to FFL. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Seems like a solicitation to me. Ain't that
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Ah ha! So the laughter in LaughingGull is sinister...very good (-:
Maybe we should call it mini lurkerdom...
In thanks, 2 Vedic bits I love about Brahman:Far in the distance I see the
owner of the house reverberating. Which I take to mean that the person I think
is the least like me, is actually an expression of my Self. Stops one in one's
tracks...if one is lucky!
Braham says: my indestructible maya. Or as Tom Traynor may have said, it's
all just the Divine playing peekaboo, pretending not to see itself. Just for
the play of it.
Wishing fathers and everyone a very playful day.
From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum
for me?
Share, you caught me completely by surprise with a response...it's good to
hear from you! It was not my intention to draw you out of lurkerdom...I also
enjoy lurking in the shadows...sinister laugh...and really don't understand my
fascination with this place unless it's just to see what nuggets I can glean
from the posts...you've just offered up a few. Anyway, it's good to see old
friends returning to the place and I'm enjoying their posts. There's a
satisfaction...dare I say comfort...in knowing that we're not going to change
who we are, yet it doesn't matter, because it shouldn't prevent us from perhaps
finding some value in what each other has to say...we are always in control of
how what we read influences us, and can turn the reaction/response switch on
and off.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
dear laughingG, thank you, not the least of which, for putting me with such
interesting, dare I say riveting, posters, the 3 Rs (-:
To my amazement, I have become a lurker, and a happy one at that. Same on the
Peak. And the recent FFL developments fascinate me. Most everything about
online communication fascinates me. Are all those very different voices really
inside my own awareness? I think so. Astonishment!
If we're not at peace with a certain voice that seems to be outside us, it does
no good to censor it. It will merely show up in our lives somewhere else.
Better to make peace with it, with all the parts of our self.
From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum
for me?
As I read through most posts, I often find something to appreciate in what
every author has written...Judy, TB, Xeno, CDB, Doug/Buck, Ann, Jim, Steve,
Nabby, MJ, and even folks that no longer (or can no longer) post here including
Share, Robin, Ravi, and even Richard (I guess these are the three 'Rs'). As I
read, I think that I can sense the author's intent in what they are
writing...sometimes it's malicious or purposely not playing fair in which case
I chose not to respond although I feel bad for the writer, sometimes I have
the aha moment and think the author is brilliant to which I sometimes respond
with a pat on the back or choose to contribute to the discussion for as long as
it holds my interest, sometimes I laugh out loud because the humor is subtle
and I got the joke (Richard contributed that type of humor), etc. etc...you
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Matching Gifts For Consciousness-Based Education
As consciousness is required to learn anything, all education by whatever means is consciousness based, and therefore any donation to any organisation that provides some educational resources and can effectively impart them would be worthy. What tends to reduce the value of education is instilling beliefs that have no support other than people think they are true, and this works against creating an educated society because it reduces the capacity of the mind to think clearly and objectively. We see these two values pitted against each other in educational systems and whichever gets the upper hand determines whether we end up with an educated populace, or a crate of idiots. MUM's ability to create a positive educational ratio (objectivity vs. belief) has declined as it has matured. One needs to do prior research to find out if a gift to an educational institution is truly worthwhile, or simply foolish. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : FW: On May 23, a record graduating class of 391 students from 61 countries graduated from Maharishi University of Management. Former Japan Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama gave the commencement address and received an honorary degree from President Morris. Watch the video of the graduation ceremonies here. https://www.mum.edu/whats-happening/graduation-2015/ Everyone who makes a gift to the Annual Fund provides invaluable financial support to our students, faculty, and administrators bringing the fulfillment of 391 new graduates. Your gift to the Annual Fund between now and June 30 will be matched! Every Gift Counts! ONLINE Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund Maharishi University of Management - Annual Giving - June 30, 2015 Annual Fund http://www.mum.edu/annualfund View on www.mum.edu http://www.mum.edu/annualfund Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] DAY OF YOGA SYMBOL
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present in the newest moderator. Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-) P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Experimenting
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Experimenting I've been away for a while and thought it might be interesting to test the waters here now that the dynamic is altered. It might just end up being the same old, same old but, being an optimist, I'm going to give it a shot. Hello FFL. If you remove the o from your greeting, that might give you an indication of the temperature of the waters. I was watching a program about wolves recently. It seems when wolves are removed from the ecosystem, the system becomes more unhealthy. The sick and weak animals proliferate and the health of the herds deteriorates. That does not imply you are sick and weak, but having run off, there are questions that may be asked, of all those who might be reversing their departures. When a lot of prey is reintroduced to an area, one wonders what might subsequently return. Experimental subjects are always welcome here, however. What's all this talk about prey and wolves and experimental subjects? When you go to a party, is your first order of business to suss out the insecure, those who are shy or perhaps do you gravitate to the party goer who is busy downing drinks in a two-fisted manner or chewing with their mouths open while expounding on their personal exploits? Do you view life as one big Darwinian experiment where all is viewed dispassionately and from an emotional or psychological distance? Perhaps those who are driven out of the herd are the aberrations or the sick and the frail - gee, in fact that is exactly what happens in nature and in human communities since life began on this planet. So, perhaps your theory is a tad ass backwards. Check it out. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/5373379/Animals-can-tell-right-from-wrong.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/wildlife/5373379/Animals-can-tell-right-from-wrong.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present in the newest moderator. Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-) P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on everyone and not one is on moderation in any way from this point. I would only suggest in our going forward that folks take the time to actually read the Yahoo-groups guidelines if they want to continue fluidly posting on FFL. We should appreciate your cooperative collaboration on this. -JaiGuruYou! Seems to me there is more than a little hypocrisy, double-dealing, and outright dishonesty going on here, and since Doug has eliminated the possibility of me bringing this question up to the group myself, I figured I'd ask you to do it for me. Thanks for everything. You have been more than fair in all of your dealings with Fairfield Life and with the odd group of characters who have posted there over the years. I wish that sense of fairness and honesty was equally present in the newest moderator. Barry...ooops, do I get in trouble for using my own real name? :-) P.S. To everyone else, so long and thanks for all the fish...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Me: In a Southern town in the 1950's or in Saddam's Iraq maybe. Your statement is absurd on some levels and offensive on others. In fact rather than point out its many flaws I will simply repeat what you said and ask the reader to let images come into their mind where this would be appropriate: Judy: If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. Me: In what time and place would such a repugnant idea be promoted? Although Maharishi subscribed to this authoritarian ideology, as an American who grew up in the 60's I do not. I am opposed to this view of authority figures and offer my own. They work for US, not the other way around. If you are a shitty leader you get opposition from people who actually do know better, and if you are a good one you get opposition from people who just think they do. The moderator's job here is not to crush dissent in FFL members when they point out that he is not serving the forum's needs properly. I do believe that you may have outed some of Buck/Doug's impression of what his role is here. But since he is not telling us why Barry was cut off specifically we can only speculate. Judy: Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Me: The old Judy playbook technique of stating the opposite of what I said about my intentions in my own writing, as if this makes it so. I comes from the belief that she knows better than I do myself what my meaning was in what I wrote myself about myself. It is a byproduct of grandiosity. Judy: Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Me: You have been peeking in and out of lurkdom a few times lately with your most recent posting streak the most prolific. Each time you come out of lurkdom is a different time because you are the one making a point to tell us that you may not return to post again. Judy: Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. Me: Right Judy. I am a poopy pants and you are a virtuous person among the dishonest unwashed. I would have hoped that your sabbatical would have helped you get over yourself a bit but I am afraid it has not. Your misinterpretation of my meaning and your projection on it is at the basis of your weird charge. Rather than untangle the mess you made of what I said I will just end here with Louis Armstrong: You blows what you is. That explains it all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy distinctions between things that do not matter. Judy: The implication of your dead pool remark was, of course, that I was sucking up to Doug to ensure I wouldn't get bounced, rather than just doing the right thing by defending him from the unfair and dishonest treatment he's been getting. Me: You are making up your implication so you can enjoy your favorite emotional outrage buzz Judy. That was neither intended nor implied in what I wrote. I hadn't even conspired that as an angle when I wrote that. I was stating the obvious and as usual you got bent about it. Your choice. I don't believe that you act in that calculated a way here, so from my POV I would not accuse you of this directly or in implication. But seeing how reactive you got makes me think that perhaps a bit of the ol' enemy of my enemy is my friend at work here that brought you out of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Quiet Day
I highly doubt that the commercial interests are going to take this lying down. They'll probably sue and try to take it to the Supreme Court. But for the moment it stops my sport of being rude to or playing with the minds of the telemarketers who call. Just because I have a phone doesn't mean they have the right to interrupt whatever I'm doing to try to sell me something I'll never buy. They were just wasting their time. I was about to use the little line that some have added to their voicemail message like sorry I missed your call unless your are a telemarketer then I'm delighted to have missed your call! On 06/21/2015 09:08 AM, ultrarishi wrote: Thanks for posting this! I am going to take adavantage of it while it's still possible. Funny, it was another 3-2 vote by the FCC. This should be an election issue in 2016. The Cons love the robocalls.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
what were you doing that could have gotten you kicked off? From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? One of my favorite mantras is question authority. ;-) Regarding MMY, right before I went to TTC, a TM teacher told me, you are about to have one of the most wonderful experiences in your life and one of the worst. He suggested to play the game which I did and didn't get bumped off to the course. I always played the game with the movement though there were many circumstances where it was not an issue. On 06/21/2015 09:01 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Declaring one is going to ignore the authority figure, of course, adds up to far more than simply talking back to the authority figure. And it has nothing to do with the Yahoo Guidelines per se; it has to do with the authority figures themselves. If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. But you're well aware of this. Me: In a Southern town in the 1950's or in Saddam's Iraq maybe. Your statement is absurd on some levels and offensive on others. In fact rather than point out its many flaws I will simply repeat what you said and ask the reader to let images come into their mind where this would be appropriate: Judy: If they want to maintain their authority, they need to sanction those who openly defy it. Me: In what time and place would such a repugnant idea be promoted? Although Maharishi subscribed to this authoritarian ideology, as an American who grew up in the 60's I do not. I am opposed to this view of authority figures and offer my own. They work for US, not the other way around. If you are a shitty leader you get opposition from people who actually do know better, and if you are a good one you get opposition from people who just think they do. The moderator's job here is not to crush dissent in FFL members when they point out that he is not serving the forum's needs properly. I do believe that you may have outed some of Buck/Doug's impression of what his role is here. But since he is not telling us why Barry was cut off specific! ally we can only speculate. Judy: Thanks for confirming my suspicions about your dead pool implication. Me: The old Judy playbook technique of stating the opposite of what I said about my intentions in my own writing, as if this makes it so. I comes from the belief that she knows better than I do myself what my meaning was in what I wrote myself about myself. It is a byproduct of grandiosity. Judy: Unfortunately you've screwed up again. I came out of lurkerdom on May 31, a week before Rick decided to appoint a moderator, a week before any of us knew he was even considering it. Me: You have been peeking in and out of lurkdom a few times lately with your most recent posting streak the most prolific. Each time you come out of lurkdom is a different time because you are the one making a point to tell us that you may not return to post again. Judy: Doug is not now and never has been either my friend or my enemy. But what's fascinating about your absurd remark is that you can't seem to envision defending someone who isn't a friend who is being treated unfairly and dishonestly just because it's the right thing to do. There has to be an ulterior, self-interested motive as far as you're concerned. Me: Right Judy. I am a poopy pants and you are a virtuous person among the dishonest unwashed. I would have hoped that your sabbatical would have helped you get over yourself a bit but I am afraid it has not. Your misinterpretation of my meaning and your projection on it is at the basis of your weird charge. Rather than untangle the mess you made of what I said I will just end here with Louis Armstrong: You blows what you is. That explains it all. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Curtis deliberately misrepresents what I said in an effort to switch the context his way. Again, standard. My conclusion about why Turq got bounced was that he declared he was going to ignore anything Doug posted. Kind of like a football player announcing publicly that he was going to ignore anything the umpire said. How much longer do you think he'd stay in the game--or on the team, for that matter--after that? Just a *wee* bit different from talking back to the umpire. And Turq wasn't even addressing Doug when he said what he did. Me: It all adds up to talking back to the authority figure and this is not an actionable offense in the Yahoo guidelines. You are making Judy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Your nightly Turq post
I looked upon this as the FFL shifts where the European shift gets to jump the gun on the American shift. We don't seem to have an Asian Shift nor Aussie shift for that matter. Then there is often a noticeable gap in posting starting around 10 AM PT too. Sometimes that allows the American shift to jump the gun on the European shift. :-D On 06/21/2015 12:06 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Usually at this time of night, all the FFL posters would have been asleep hours ago, but Turq, waking up in Europe, would almost always have something to post, and thus the last minute check of FFL would be profitable for me. But now . . . . This is like suddenly having Blue Laws. Town rolls up the streets at 9:30 P.M. Question: With so many posters coming out of the woodwork with two major trolls gone, the question I find most delicious is: How many more lurkers would begin anew here, if Doug were gone also? I mean, the results are very promising, and a fellah just wonders stuff for no reason at all, but here was this question coming to me like a stray thought in Maharishi's brain that got him to leave the cave. Got pay attention to these odd notions. Ya know? Could be 2001-something wonderful-ish. Like: Rick brings all those he interviews to this audience knowing the questions would be deeply considered and profound and edifying to all. Could you imagine how bright Rick's smile would be if he could offer us as a resource unto these would-be helpers? But would Doug allow Rick to do this??
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Interspersed comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Why not give it a go, Curtis. Me: I am giving it my version of a go by commenting on issues I find relevant here. This new change is interesting, so I am writing about it. That is my go. If you mean why don't I change my opinion of what has happened here, I would need some better reasons than the ones I have for feeling the way I have been expressing. S: Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? Me: My comment have almost exclusively been about what I object to in what HAS happened. S: There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator Me: You can't combine these two because they are completely different cases. R did not get bounced because he was a troll which he also was. He got bounced for attempting to hurt me in the real world by using information about me against me. Then he went over to the Peak and was allowed to do the same thing. His intention was harm, there was no other reasonable reason to search out posts in the long past where my name appeared and post them repeatedly against my will and after getting banned for this before. This bizarre-O situation has nothing to do with Barry's situation. We know what got one bounced and not the other. . S: Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. Me: I never said I objected to Barry having his privileges revoked because the reason has not been revealed to me. I object to that. If the reason was because Barry called David Lynch an idiot for giving the Guru of the Beatles a million dollars for a course MMY did not attend, than I would object to that reason. So far that is all I know he got flagged for. S: You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Me: I think the reaction from some posters is appropriate given who is the moderator here. S: Where is the evidence? Me: In his posts where he described what violated Yahoo guidelines about a tame post about David Lynch being an idiot. In the lack of posts that let us know how a person got booted and which interpretation of the guidelines was used to determine his fate. I get it that you think this gun will never be aimed at you, and you are glad Barry is gone. We may use this place for different reasons which compels us to view all this differently. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
what I am saying, is that by checking in every few months, as you say, you may miss some of the nuances that take place here. it does not take away your right to express an opinion, it may possibly demonstrate that it is a less informed opinion. That would seem like a fair assessment. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : You: says the one post a month, twelve posts a year, guy Me: That's correct. You got a problem with that or are you saying that that the amount of posting gives you Chit credit for the worth of your opinions?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
You remind me of my corn popper. :-D I'm not on Facehook. Blacklist got better later on but still disappointing. Seems to have spent the budget on locations. On 06/21/2015 05:01 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Noozguru -- heh, seems you're assuming my moment by moment emotions (and/or the emotional content of my stream of consciousness during any random sampling of such) is determinable by the, what?, number of times I capitalize something or get swearycrassyshitty? Gunna need to see your P value on that diagnosis. I actually am chuckling here as I type this stuff. It's all ego shit. Get a load of me with that last cute-sy-poot-sy word choice shit. Not that I'm not easily stung by well aimed barbs, but geeze, ya gotta know that by the time I get around to actually replying, and editing my reply, any emotional knee-jerking process skewing my mindset would have been long gone, and to believe of me otherwise would be a rather hefty and negative accusation. I deny I'm at all miserable as much as my harsh writing style here might indicate. Check me out at Facebookwhence my personality shift there if not because I AM IN CONTROL of how I post? And but hey yeah, of course I've got negativity I can instantly tap to provide an emotional substrate to my writing -- it's my lemonade for a life of mistakes. And I can't believe you watched all of Blackhat. You MUST be enlightened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Sounds like some folks here haven't even achieved line on water yet or they wouldn't be worried about your posts. As for mantras. Hoom is for kapha imbalances (it'll stimulate you), Shreem for Pitta (it'll cool you down) and Raam for vata (it'll calm you). Give them a try for a few minutes each to see what they do. Mantras don't belong to TM. These are from Ayurveda. There are also many tribal mantras such as Om Agasthi Shahina (Ōm Ah-gah´-stee Shah-ee´-nah) which helps with sleep. You don't need a guru for these but they will work better for those who have been practicing meditation. On 06/21/2015 03:48 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Dear Doug, now I'm being accused of obscene ranting. What say you about these personal imprecations against me instead of the posters dealing with the issues? Heh -- like I'm bothered over here. Like I'm not enjoying being over the top. If I'm typing -- it's bliss. You want to bonk me for a true reason? I am violating the guideline that prohibits someone from posting merely to archive something here as if it were a private database. THAT'S ME. GUILTY AS CHARGED. I'm just showing my future mind what my past mind is like, and how anyone reacts to these notations is a sparrow fart in a hurricane. Here's some thoughts: Nine black folks still not buried and the moderator here MAYBE thinks a listing of mantras is to be forbidden. I don't know where that thought came from, but there it is. Three million children a year dying from drinking ditch water, but here we talk about whether David Lynch is being properly understood. The Magna Carta lies in ruins, but here we talk about mercury in drugs that only the elite can afford. 900 military bases around the world, but here we're encouraged to reconsider if Maharishi really really meant that we're not to eat root vegetables EVER or maybe a few now and then. 50,000 industrial chemicals in air, land and water, but here we are told to keep our discussions polite and spiritual instead of ROARING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT GIVE US THESE CHEMICALS THAT RUIN OUR MEDITATIONS BY PREVENTING OUR BRAINS FROM SETTLING DOWN DUE TO TOXIN-REMOVAL PROCESSES. The NSA is keeping track of the very dust motes in our inner sanctums, but here we have Doug is telling us to give more money to the TMO that he and EVERYONE knows goes straight to Girish who is a hoodlum in India. More thoughts later, dear future Edg.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Xeno, let's unpack this a bit.
You, I repeat, you, are the person who has stated on several occasions that
you have a touch of sociopath.
Perhaps you can do me a favor and look up the definition of sociopath.
But, here's my understanding.
A sociopath is someone who takes a certain pleasure in making people
uncomfortable, by any means. And the means don't really matter much. The goal
is to make them uncomfortable.
A true sociopath sees people as objects, and does not experience empathy or
guilt. They do apparently experience other emotions, but not like a normal
person. So under normal circumstances, say you had one for a friend, if you
died, they would not care, they would move on easily. They can be manipulative
because they have desires, things they want etc., their sense of self, is
flexible.
I seem to have a touch of this, but I am not a true sociopath. The thing here
is people in general ('normal') get uncomfortable when their world view is
challenged. If you take the basic idea and theory of enlightenment for example
as being true, then until full awakening, you are not living reality at all,
but are living a dream, a fictitious existence in which every thought and idea
you have about the world is just plain wrong. How uncomfortable the path of
enlightenment can be depends on how fast that fictitious world in the mind is
ripped away. TM does it gently, slowly most of the time, so it is not horribly
upsetting, but a person might be surprised at how uncomfortable life can be as
the dark stuff comes to the surface. It's kind of like dying because you have
to give up everything you thought was real. That TM is gentle, it is for gentle
people who can't take a lot of pain, but it is also therefore, with its light
touch, likely to be slow. To go really really fast, sometimes you need a
crowbar or some truly horrible life experience to jar the nervous system out of
its slumbers. Even enlightened people have residual conditioning and that
conditioning can get challenged. They are more likely to deal with it
gracefully and not on a personal level.
In a way, enlightenment seems to create a situation similar to sociopathy, in
that the personal level of existence drops away. This is why some 'masters' can
be quite uncomfortable to be around, because they are not going to buy your
shit. Of course some so-called masters can be difficult to be around because
they are just rotten to begin with.
Maybe others here don't care for a forum that has devolved into that sort of
atmosphere due to the continual posts by one of one of the most active
participants.
That's because they are living in a fantasy world. This is, or was, the place
to grapple with these issues. People really want to get enlightened up to a
point, but once they begin to discover what you really have to give up to get
over the threshold, they balk. This won't happen this way for everyone. There
are always a few who are pretty clear to begin with, and they might have a
really easy time of it. The probability you will be that fortunate is unlikely.
That is just statistical, not a statement of your personal worth. Your personal
worth is what you give up with enlightenment. What takes its place is much
better.
And, by the way, that particular participant has stated on many occasions
that, that is his raison d'etre for participating here.
I was not particularly fond of another poster here, 'R' who also was let off.
I am happy he is gone, but Rick, for a long time, let him stay. If he had not
crossed the line with Curtis, he still would be here. My method was to skip
over his posts and not waste my time reading them, and set my e-mail to drop
them in the trash folder. No problem. As long as people are not physically
harming each other, which is impossible for the most part here, you can just
not pay attention to what you do not like. If you do put your attention on
these things, then you might ask yourself what are you getting off on, in
complaining about it?
I also came to dislike authfriend's posting as well, but I would never ban her
annoying as I found her. She is sharp, in her own way a sniper like Turq. I
consider her the polar opposite of Turq, so they are in some way very similar.
There is an intimate relationship between opposing forces. But like matter and
anti-matter, an explosion when they come together too closely.
I think a lot of people here think of Turq as a low-vibe spiritual loser, but
they gloss over things that show he has definite insight into spiritual
matters. For example here is something he wrote in 2008:
'One of the things I cannot help but notice, having been exposed to views of
spirituality other than the ones dealt with in TM, is that the TM view often
seems blissfully unaware of the occult. The occult deals not with black
magic or other low-vibe stuff,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
I'd still like the moderation process to be a bit more transparent, but if Doug and Rick discussed the Turq situation, then for me, the issue is settled. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfr...@yahoo.com wrote : Alex: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit that drove me from the organization in the first place. Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Couple things.
Who can argue with many of the points you raise, in theory?
I agree with many of them.
Enlightenment should be so and so. Enlightenment blasts away the fantasy
world, etc., etc.
Yes, your commentary on this and other issues has been beneficial to me.
But, in a sense, we are a community here, and if someone is widely perceived
to engage in trolling, as opposed to more honest type dialog, then it is my
opinion, and, I believe, that of others, that it poisons the community
atmosphere.
And if that hi-lights a weakness in my spirituality, then I accept it.
But, personally, I don't think anything is sacrificed, when that type of
participation is eliminated from the community
In fact, I think the community atmosphere is enhanced.
And then we have this notion, that said poster is here to demonstrate for the
world that TM is a cult, and has his lurking reporter in the fold to
document this. It inevitably hi-jacks most any discussion to this same
conclusion: TM is a cult, and anyone who defends it, is a cult apologist.
Do you realize how tiresome that becomes after decades?
I think the site will be greatly enhanced to have a break from that.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Xeno, let's unpack this a bit.
You, I repeat, you, are the person who has stated on several occasions that
you have a touch of sociopath.
Perhaps you can do me a favor and look up the definition of sociopath.
But, here's my understanding.
A sociopath is someone who takes a certain pleasure in making people
uncomfortable, by any means. And the means don't really matter much. The goal
is to make them uncomfortable.
A true sociopath sees people as objects, and does not experience empathy or
guilt. They do apparently experience other emotions, but not like a normal
person. So under normal circumstances, say you had one for a friend, if you
died, they would not care, they would move on easily. They can be manipulative
because they have desires, things they want etc., their sense of self, is
flexible.
I seem to have a touch of this, but I am not a true sociopath. The thing here
is people in general ('normal') get uncomfortable when their world view is
challenged. If you take the basic idea and theory of enlightenment for example
as being true, then until full awakening, you are not living reality at all,
but are living a dream, a fictitious existence in which every thought and idea
you have about the world is just plain wrong. How uncomfortable the path of
enlightenment can be depends on how fast that fictitious world in the mind is
ripped away. TM does it gently, slowly most of the time, so it is not horribly
upsetting, but a person might be surprised at how uncomfortable life can be as
the dark stuff comes to the surface. It's kind of like dying because you have
to give up everything you thought was real. That TM is gentle, it is for gentle
people who can't take a lot of pain, but it is also therefore, with its light
touch, likely to be slow. To go really really fast, sometimes you need a
crowbar or some truly horrible life experience to jar the nervous system out of
its slumbers. Even enlightened people have residual conditioning and that
conditioning can get challenged. They are more likely to deal with it
gracefully and not on a personal level.
In a way, enlightenment seems to create a situation similar to sociopathy, in
that the personal level of existence drops away. This is why some 'masters' can
be quite uncomfortable to be around, because they are not going to buy your
shit. Of course some so-called masters can be difficult to be around because
they are just rotten to begin with.
Maybe others here don't care for a forum that has devolved into that sort of
atmosphere due to the continual posts by one of one of the most active
participants.
That's because they are living in a fantasy world. This is, or was, the place
to grapple with these issues. People really want to get enlightened up to a
point, but once they begin to discover what you really have to give up to get
over the threshold, they balk. This won't happen this way for everyone. There
are always a few who are pretty clear to begin with, and they might have a
really easy time of it. The probability you will be that fortunate is unlikely.
That is just statistical, not a statement of your personal worth. Your personal
worth is what you give up with enlightenment. What takes its place is much
better.
And, by the way, that particular participant has stated on many occasions
that, that is his raison d'etre for participating here.
I was not particularly fond of another poster here, 'R' who also was let off.
I am happy he is gone, but Rick, for a long time, let him stay. If he had not
crossed the line with Curtis, he still would be
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Xeno, as you say, enlightenment bestows upon some the ability to remain more aloof, at least in some respects. but, it bothers me when I see what I perceive to be a mean spirited interaction, or a dishonest interaction. So, yes, I am absolutely complicit in this crime, and it reflects how much additional work I have yet to do, before I am able to be more detached from such things. So, thank you for pointing it out, I guess. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Perhaps we never have a vote here, this is Rick's place. But it is clear there is divided opinion on this issue. So geezerfreak posts once a month or so. When people vote in an election, some are involved in politics all year round, and then vote for whom they like, while others pay no attention to politics at all, and then just the same, vote for the one whom they like best, or against the one they hate the worst as the case may be. Under the system, they both have the same right to vote. We do not have a vote here, but we do have preferences and we are expressing them. And this is precisely the issue at hand, whether we can speak our minds freely, or have our speech suppressed by would be manipulators, who would prefer we only think their kind of thoughts and ideas. When your ideas are not challenged mightily, you brain dries up like old pudding sitting on a shelf. People like Turq cannot manipulate you if you simply ignore what they say. You have a choice not to interact. If you cannot deal with it, but nonetheless read it, and complain, it means you are complicit, a partner in crime, if you so characterise what someone is saying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : says the one post a month, twelve posts a year, guy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : Alex: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit that drove me from the organization in the first place. Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Okay Everyone, I'm Stepping Up To The Plate!
Nice. I will give that a try. Thanks for the recommendation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Red Bull cola is the best as it's made with real cola nuts. If you have some Indian grocers around they often stock Thumbs Up from India. On 06/21/2015 05:20 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, I admit, my drink of choice is Mountain Dew, and yes, you can now get it with cane sugar. We've been striking out with theater movies lately. Below, is my wife's most favorite, recent movie. A Hijacking A Hijacking Critics Consensus: A tense, gripping thriller, A Hijacking avoids action movie cliches and instead creates a palpable sense of dread by mixing gritty realism ... View on www.rottentomatoes... Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Mexican Coca-Cola is the way to go. It uses sugar rather than HFCS. Tastes like the cola that was around when I was a kid. In fact the company that makes those lime and orange sodas that Mexican restaurants serve has also gotten into the sugar sweeten cola biz. Pepsi tried it a few years back but didn't continue. Coke seems to be behind the curve. Many candy companies are dropping HFCS. We've had those new fangled drink dispensers at some theaters here for years. I looked into the theater butter flavoring and apparently after years of taking hits they make it from natural ingredients. It's oilier than butter though. You can even buy the stuff online from places like Amazon and put it on your own popcorn. I like melted sweet cream butter from Europe. And sometimes I pop with olive oil and throw some herbs in too. I recently got a new Whirly Popper to replace the old one. Looks like they have made the gears which are about the only thing that breaks replaceable. On 06/21/2015 04:56 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Excellent point about the reclining seats. Yes, the wife did almost doze off, she said. Now, unfortunately this theater did not have real butter, but here's the deal. They had two (fake) butter dispensers, where you serve your own butter flavored stuff. And get this, the dispenser next to the one I was using was empty, so there was a guy waiting for me to finish, and I felt some obligation to butter my corn quickly, and, alas, shorted myself. Now, as I had asked for a cardboard tray so both my wife and I could have our own batches, my wife's portion got shorted as well, but she didn't mind. I have not tasted a Coke Zero, so I cannot testify to the taste, but I am happy to report that the Coke was up to standard. And, I might add, I can immediately detect when I have been served a Diet Coke, as opposed to a real Coke as sometimes happens. What I think happens in that case, is that the server, most often a woman, cannot fathom that anyone would order a regular coke, and so instinctively gets the Diet Coke. By the way, they had one of those new fangled soda dispensers where you can have most any variation of the drink you want. As a matter of fact, I served up, a lime coke, regular coke combo. Very satisfying. Now, as far as the movie is concerned, I don't know if you know anything about it, but it revolves around a girl, and her four primary emotions: Joy, Sadn! ess, Fear, and Anger, and how they those feelings play out in her daily life. Drama ensues, and things get pretty dicey, but not too intense for the younger audience. Sorta hard to give much a synopsis. Again, we went in with pretty high expectations, and felt a little let down. Thanks for asking! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Did you stay awake? I mean reclining seats though that may just be the seats like are at the theater up the hill from me that is all digital (one of the first in the Bay Area). But the seat I take does not recline because it's right under the projection booth and that's to avoid any seat kickers or stinky tennies on the top of the seat next to me. So how was the movie? How was the popcorn? Real butter? How was the coke? Pixar is down the road about 30 miles from here. In and Out is a burger chain in California. I watched Blackhat which is a Michael Mann movie last night on DVD. It was so-so for a Michael Mann movie but it was free as Lucky's gives a code for a free DVD rental a week when you shop there. On 06/21/2015 03:50 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Movie Review In and Out My wife went to see this last night, as it had such marvelous reviews. We saw it in one of those renovated theaters with reclining seats which you can reserve ahead of time. We got popcorn and
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Does Time Exist?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Xeno, A few weeks ago, I posted an article about the new developments in physics discussed at a conference in Puerto Rico. Apparently, some physicists are raising the issue that information is more fundamental than matter and energy. That means Hawking, Krauss and Dawkins are wrong in their interpretation of the Big Bang. Information is certainly important. But how can it be structured without space-time, energy-matter? Without matter there is no way to encode information, without energy, no way to transmit it Information can be interpreted as consciousness that springs forth from the unified field. As such, this information is the observer, the process of observing, and the observed. This is the dynamic relationship that creates the infinite universes which includes our own. Consciousness that springs forth requires a nervous system, and that is matter and energy. If we assume the universe is unified, all these things are together as one anyway so there is no point in trying to get rid of one and the same thing to make the idea sound more 'spiritual'. The physical universe and 'spirit' are one and the same, that is what unification means, so it is not necessary to eliminate or redefine levels of existence. Because they are unified, it is no longer necessary to postulate emergence because it is not a sequence of events that is unfolding; the idea of creator or a beginning only comes into play if you have a world that is dis-unified. Take Yoga Vasistha for example on this point: Vasistha: 'But all this talk about who created this world and how it was created is intended only for the purpose of composing scriptures and expounding them: it is not based on truth. Modifications arising in the infinite consciousness or organisation of the cosmic being, do not really take place in the Lord, though they appear to do so. There is naught but the infinite consciousness, even in imagination! To think of that being the creator and the universe as the created, is absurd: when one lamp is kindled from another, there is no creator-creature relationship between them—fire is one. Creation is just a word, it has no corresponding substantial reality.' As a product of the unified field, our universe is a reflection of its creator. Our earth and everything in it are part of this universe and the quantum wave function which made this all happen. MMY stated that this wave function can be accessed while in transcendental consciousness or samadhi. I doubt this is true, but because you are saying it is a quantum mechanical function, then there are physical qualities that could be measured to check out the idea. You just have to formulate the meditation theory in a way that it predicts certain quantum mechanical events, and design the experiment to see if that happens. If it does not, the theory is wrong. Dr. John Hagelin stated in one of internet videos that the expansion of the universe is powered by dark energy, the emptiness of space, i.e. the unified field itself. We really do not seem to know what dark energy is or how and why it is there, if it is there. Some scientists feel there are other explanations for the observations for which dark energy and matter are hypothesised. Hagelin is of course no longer really a physicist that communicates with his physicist peers. He doesn't write papers or formulate anything scientifically any more. Other scientists, like Dr. Leonard Susskind, are proposing that the beginning and end of the universe can be compared to information stored in a hologram which can be expressed in scientific formulas. But this idea lacks the lively intelligence of the information expressed in MMY's samhita of the Rishi-Devata-Chandas. Without formulating these theories (hologram or samhita) in a way that generates parameters that can be physically measured, there is no way to tell the difference between them. You might as well say the universe came from a chicken sandwich (a very special sort of chicken sandwich of course). You may disagree with this idea from MMY, but the new concept, that information is more fundamental than matter and energy, is somewhat similar to the thoughts that MMY formulated many years ago. With a unified system, information, matter and energy will appear to emerge simultaneously. Saying one is more fundamental than the other is a post hoc explanation mapped onto the world to explain how it appears when viewed not as being but as becoming. That means the attention is narrowed so experience is fragmented and the world then appears in pieces that seem to move in relation to one another and the mind must try to figure out how they are related. Take the formula for general relativity. The equation shows how the whole system stands as a whole, but if you plug a particular value into one of the values in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Perhaps we never have a vote here, this is Rick's place. But it is clear there is divided opinion on this issue. So geezerfreak posts once a month or so. When people vote in an election, some are involved in politics all year round, and then vote for whom they like, while others pay no attention to politics at all, and then just the same, vote for the one whom they like best, or against the one they hate the worst as the case may be. Under the system, they both have the same right to vote. We do not have a vote here, but we do have preferences and we are expressing them. And this is precisely the issue at hand, whether we can speak our minds freely, or have our speech suppressed by would be manipulators, who would prefer we only think their kind of thoughts and ideas. When your ideas are not challenged mightily, you brain dries up like old pudding sitting on a shelf. People like Turq cannot manipulate you if you simply ignore what they say. You have a choice not to interact. If you cannot deal with it, but nonetheless read it, and complain, it means you are complicit, a partner in crime, if you so characterise what someone is saying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : says the one post a month, twelve posts a year, guy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : Alex: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit that drove me from the organization in the first place. Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's vote -- let's just see who wants Rick no rick keep Doug.....
Dump Doug.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : (snip) Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick! Check this out, geeze: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416427 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416427
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) Me: I never said I objected to Barry having his privileges revoked because the reason has not been revealed to me. I object to that. If the reason was because Barry called David Lynch an idiot for giving the Guru of the Beatles a million dollars for a course MMY did not attend, than I would object to that reason. So far that is all I know he got flagged for. Perhaps you've forgotten, but when Turq got flagged for that post, Doug said Turq had a choice of deleting it himself or having the moderators go in and do it. The post has not been deleted, leading one to suspect that it was not why Turq had his posting privileges revoked--even perhaps that Doug realized he'd been wrong to call him on it. (FWIW, my understanding is that although Maharishi did not attend the course in the flesh, he did lead it via televised conference call, and CPs got to ask him questions. If that's not accurate, somebody please correct me.)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also? Eh? How do you work that out? They were a nice bunch of young girls actually, I commended them on their banner and said they'd won my prize for the finest political statement of the day and tried to get a photo but got jostled by the multitudes and it was blurry otherwise I'd post it so you could see they were OK types. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Or prejudiced against someone who like myself is not a TM yes man. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 5:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? I think Doug is doing a great job as moderator. FFL should not be an abusive environment, and as Doug has said, the Yahoo guidelines are pretty simple. It should also be evident to anyone why TurquoiseB was removed, as a recent returnee has explained. You would have to be willfully blind not to see it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nice to hear from folks again and seefolks returning and some joining FFL again. Feels like watching themigration flyways where waterfowl in traveling drop in out of the skyto rest and feed along the way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone fromFFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner.We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking ouradditional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in thecontrols. From Soccer.. - A red card will be shown to a player who hascommitted a serious offence such as violent conduct or an illegaland purposeful obstruction of a goal scoring opportunity for theopposing team. A red card will also be shown to a player whoaccumulates two yellow cards for more minor offenses. These guys who have presently been ejected from FFL were wellbeyond accumulating two yellow cards.It was quite time for their ejections from FFL to secure ouralignment as a yahoo-group with the yahoo-guidelines. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quitesimple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well withinthe wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking
Re: [FairfieldLife] I'd rather have Turq as the moderator, because: Doug
Wouldn't want to.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] I'd rather have Turq as the moderator, because: Doug
Turq would be HILARIOUS (and way way fair just to be a pissant that way
too.)
Not that I want him back, not that he's not a troll, not that he's not a turd
of a soul, but I could use some laughs instead of the scrunched up face I'm
contorting myself into when I read Doug's explanations.
But MJ wouldn't be a good moderator. Heh heh, sorry, Bro, you'd whack at the
moles all day long.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Okay Everyone, I'm Stepping Up To The Plate!
Mexican Coca-Cola is the way to go. It uses sugar rather than HFCS. Tastes like the cola that was around when I was a kid. In fact the company that makes those lime and orange sodas that Mexican restaurants serve has also gotten into the sugar sweeten cola biz. Pepsi tried it a few years back but didn't continue. Coke seems to be behind the curve. Many candy companies are dropping HFCS. We've had those new fangled drink dispensers at some theaters here for years. I looked into the theater butter flavoring and apparently after years of taking hits they make it from natural ingredients. It's oilier than butter though. You can even buy the stuff online from places like Amazon and put it on your own popcorn. I like melted sweet cream butter from Europe. And sometimes I pop with olive oil and throw some herbs in too. I recently got a new Whirly Popper to replace the old one. Looks like they have made the gears which are about the only thing that breaks replaceable. On 06/21/2015 04:56 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Excellent point about the reclining seats. Yes, the wife did almost doze off, she said. Now, unfortunately this theater did not have real butter, but here's the deal. They had two (fake) butter dispensers, where you serve your own butter flavored stuff. And get this, the dispenser next to the one I was using was empty, so there was a guy waiting for me to finish, and I felt some obligation to butter my corn quickly, and, alas, shorted myself. Now, as I had asked for a cardboard tray so both my wife and I could have our own batches, my wife's portion got shorted as well, but she didn't mind. I have not tasted a Coke Zero, so I cannot testify to the taste, but I am happy to report that the Coke was up to standard. And, I might add, I can immediately detect when I have been served a Diet Coke, as opposed to a real Coke as sometimes happens. What I think happens in that case, is that the server, most often a woman, cannot fathom that anyone would order a regular coke, and so instinctively gets the Diet Coke. By the way, they had one of those new fangled soda dispensers where you can have most any variation of the drink you want. As a matter of fact, I served up, a lime coke, regular coke combo. Very satisfying. Now, as far as the movie is concerned, I don't know if you know anything about it, but it revolves around a girl, and her four primary emotions: Joy, Sadn! ess, Fear, and Anger, and how they those feelings play out in her daily life. Drama ensues, and things get pretty dicey, but not too intense for the younger audience. Sorta hard to give much a synopsis. Again, we went in with pretty high expectations, and felt a little let down. Thanks for asking! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Did you stay awake? I mean reclining seats though that may just be the seats like are at the theater up the hill from me that is all digital (one of the first in the Bay Area). But the seat I take does not recline because it's right under the projection booth and that's to avoid any seat kickers or stinky tennies on the top of the seat next to me. So how was the movie? How was the popcorn? Real butter? How was the coke? Pixar is down the road about 30 miles from here. In and Out is a burger chain in California. I watched Blackhat which is a Michael Mann movie last night on DVD. It was so-so for a Michael Mann movie but it was free as Lucky's gives a code for a free DVD rental a week when you shop there. On 06/21/2015 03:50 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Movie Review In and Out My wife went to see this last night, as it had such marvelous reviews. We saw it in one of those renovated theaters with reclining seats which you can reserve ahead of time. We got popcorn and she got a Coke Zero and I got a regular Coke. The little feature beforehand was called LAVA, and we enjoyed that very much. The writer/director of Pixar's new film 'Lava' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A The writer/director of Pixar's new film 'Lava... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A Inspired by the isolated beauty of tropical islands and the explosive allure of ocean volcanoes, the film is a musical love story that takes place over milli... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo Now, I have never watched Game of Thrones, so I really can't offer a baseline comparison, but I'd say the film was okay, but did not live up to the almost uniform rave reviews. I'm giving it a B. (oops, maybe, I should go A- or C+ (-:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Okay Everyone, I'm Stepping Up To The Plate!
Red Bull cola is the best as it's made with real cola nuts. If you have some Indian grocers around they often stock Thumbs Up from India. On 06/21/2015 05:20 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, I admit, my drink of choice is Mountain Dew, and yes, you can now get it with cane sugar. We've been striking out with theater movies lately. Below, is my wife's most favorite, recent movie. A Hijacking http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ image http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ A Hijacking http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ Critics Consensus: A tense, gripping thriller, A Hijacking avoids action movie cliches and instead creates a palpable sense of dread by mixing gritty realism ... View on www.rottentomatoes... http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Mexican Coca-Cola is the way to go. It uses sugar rather than HFCS. Tastes like the cola that was around when I was a kid. In fact the company that makes those lime and orange sodas that Mexican restaurants serve has also gotten into the sugar sweeten cola biz. Pepsi tried it a few years back but didn't continue. Coke seems to be behind the curve. Many candy companies are dropping HFCS. We've had those new fangled drink dispensers at some theaters here for years. I looked into the theater butter flavoring and apparently after years of taking hits they make it from natural ingredients. It's oilier than butter though. You can even buy the stuff online from places like Amazon and put it on your own popcorn. I like melted sweet cream butter from Europe. And sometimes I pop with olive oil and throw some herbs in too. I recently got a new Whirly Popper to replace the old one. Looks like they have made the gears which are about the only thing that breaks replaceable. On 06/21/2015 04:56 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Excellent point about the reclining seats. Yes, the wife did almost doze off, she said. Now, unfortunately this theater did not have real butter, but here's the deal. They had two (fake) butter dispensers, where you serve your own butter flavored stuff. And get this, the dispenser next to the one I was using was empty, so there was a guy waiting for me to finish, and I felt some obligation to butter my corn quickly, and, alas, shorted myself. Now, as I had asked for a cardboard tray so both my wife and I could have our own batches, my wife's portion got shorted as well, but she didn't mind. I have not tasted a Coke Zero, so I cannot testify to the taste, but I am happy to report that the Coke was up to standard. And, I might add, I can immediately detect when I have been served a Diet Coke, as opposed to a real Coke as sometimes happens. What I think happens in that case, is that the server, most often a woman, cannot fathom that anyone would order a regular coke, and so instinctively gets the Diet Coke. By the way, they had one of those new fangled soda dispensers where you can have most any variation of the drink you want. As a matter of fact, I served up, a lime coke, regular coke combo. Very satisfying. Now, as far as the movie is concerned, I don't know if you know anything about it, but it revolves around a girl, and her four primary emotions: Joy, Sadn! ess, Fear, and Anger, and how they those feelings play out in her daily life. Drama ensues, and things get pretty dicey, but not too intense for the younger audience. Sorta hard to give much a synopsis. Again, we went in with pretty high expectations, and felt a little let down. Thanks for asking! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Did you stay awake? I mean reclining seats though that may just be the seats like are at the theater up the hill from me that is all digital (one of the first in the Bay Area). But the seat I take does not recline because it's right under the projection booth and that's to avoid any seat kickers or stinky tennies on the top of the seat next to me. So how was the movie? How was the popcorn? Real butter? How was the coke? Pixar is down the road about 30 miles from here. In and Out is a burger chain in California. I watched Blackhat which is a Michael Mann movie last night on DVD. It was so-so for a Michael Mann movie but it was free as Lucky's gives a code for a free DVD rental a week when you shop there. On 06/21/2015 03:50 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Movie Review In and Out My wife went to see this last night, as it had such marvelous
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
You: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? Rick -- YOU'RE RUINING YOUR REPUTATION FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS DUDE. You've put a person in charge here that is running the joint like a Mafia extortionist. The muzzle is that we don't know what amounts to a punishable infraction. THIS IS PURE TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AS TAUGHT TO ALL OF US BY MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI. FFL posters are being kept afraid and in the dark. We're not told JACK SHIT. We never get to see our manila folders. You don't know what anyone is thinking about you or is beginning to think...errors are not allowed to be sussed out. Is Doug almost ready to dump me? I DON'T FUCKING GET TO KNOW! When I went into a private meeting with Maharishi, he penciled next to my photograph on the paper he held no beard now. SEE? SEE FUCKING SEE? I spent EIGHT MONTHS ON TEACHER TRAINING and I could have lost all that time and money if I'd kept my beard. THAT'S FRAUD. Try to get the Course Office to explain who gets a field badge and who doesn't. SAME DAMNED FUCKIN' SHITASS POLICY. THIS IS PURELY ABUSIVE AND CONTROL FREAK SHIT. And you ask us what we have for a bitch? That question too is worthy of condemnation -- it shows you don't have a fucking clue or are mindfully ignoring an issue like a redneck saying rebel flags iz good. My next action step is to confront Rick personally if he doesn't pony up here with a BIGASS explanation for allowing Doug to moderate any longer given how personally Doug is applying the guidelines. Seriouslyfirst private emails and then phone calls. Rick -- you owe me, you owe us, you owe your own integrity to fix this problem quickly. I have been a great fucking friend and supporter, Rick -- don't sand bag us on this. This is a deal killer. Me: Precisely. It IS a deal killer on all things FFL to me. I always thought it was a free speech zone for those who had been involved in the TMO. When that changes (and it appears that it has) then it becomes dead to me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I'd still like the moderation process to be a bit more transparent, but if Doug and Rick discussed the Turq situation, then for me, the issue is settled. Geeze, Alex, that's so cleverly Swiss of you. Heh. Keyword of yours: if -- you're in the dark it seems, but come on, be a mensch and ASK RICK FOR US what in the hell he's being shy about. YOU HAVE EASY ACCESS AND INTIMACY. RICK'LL LAY IT OUT TO YOU. His new hired gun is pissing off half the party goers, and why the stressin' on us? We'd love a report from you about Rick's response. Or, tell us you're management and are part of a circling of the wagons, and hey, maybe I'll understand, but no I won't cuz I'm being a dick about this issue. Gotta be consistent. You fer or agin us? Take a stand. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : Alex: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit that drove me from the organization in the first place. Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick!
[FairfieldLife] Everything is Information
Vlatko Vedral, a physicist, explains that Information is more fundamental than matter and energy. But he accepts that his idea still leads to an infinite regression. Vlatko Vedral: Everything is information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQ2r0zvyoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQ2r0zvyoA Vlatko Vedral: Everything is information https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQ2r0zvyoA Physicist Vlatko Vedral explains to Aleks Krotoski why he believes the fundamental stuff of the universe is information and how he hopes that one day everyth... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfQ2r0zvyoA Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is the Pope not a dope?
If there are no weapons in the world, the jihadists would have to use their hands and feet to conquer the world. That also means that the Europeans and Americans would have learn karate and the various martial arts to protect themselves from the barbarians. They should hire Steven Seagal to teach Aikido, and Jean-Claude Van Damme to teach karate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : At this rate our radical pontiff will start to question the existence of god and his right to control women's reproductive rights. Might even start to like the guy when that happens! Pope Francis says those in weapons industry can't call themselves Christian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian Pope Francis says those in weapons industry can't ca... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian At rally of young people in Turin, Francis issues his toughest condemnation to date of the weapons industry, criticising investors as well as workers View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Uh, dude, just for the record, the 250,000 is your number. Most other reports have it at tens of thousands. As a stickler for accuracy, I'm sure you appreciate that. I was there. The figure came from the independent stewards the organisers hired to observe the march and record any potential trouble. Much easier to do it that way than end up being accused of incompetence and bias. The MSM you seem happy to rely are dead set against the anti-austerity campaign because they are a bunch of right-wing maniacs like Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre. Most newspapers only reported there was a demo because it was in London, and posted a single picture of someone with a hood on burning a pile of placards thus giving the impression it was an out of control anarchist event. Subliminal fascism. The BBC do what they are told these days. Way too scared of losing their funding.But if you are on a demo and Parliament square is full and two hours later the rest are still backed up the the Mall then there is more than just a few thousand. Any time. This is the sort of comment that makes you look like an idiot who isn't as clever as he thinks he is. Best avoid the smugness in future. Oh, and by the way, is that slogan supposed to shock people? No, it's supposed to be funny which is why I mentioned that everyone laughed. What is funny is that I had you in mind as part of the slow class. And here I am explaining it all to you Really? You couldn't make it up. A casual observer might wonder why I'm giving a troll the pleasure of a response but I'm just trying to keep my actionable headline at the top of the list to annoy Doug. Fight the power! Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Noozguru -- heh, seems you're assuming my moment by moment emotions (and/or the emotional content of my stream of consciousness during any random sampling of such) is determinable by the, what?, number of times I capitalize something or get swearycrassyshitty? Gunna need to see your P value on that diagnosis. I actually am chuckling here as I type this stuff. It's all ego shit. Get a load of me with that last cute-sy-poot-sy word choice shit. Not that I'm not easily stung by well aimed barbs, but geeze, ya gotta know that by the time I get around to actually replying, and editing my reply, any emotional knee-jerking process skewing my mindset would have been long gone, and to believe of me otherwise would be a rather hefty and negative accusation. I deny I'm at all miserable as much as my harsh writing style here might indicate. Check me out at Facebookwhence my personality shift there if not because I AM IN CONTROL of how I post? And but hey yeah, of course I've got negativity I can instantly tap to provide an emotional substrate to my writing -- it's my lemonade for a life of mistakes. And I can't believe you watched all of Blackhat. You MUST be enlightened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Sounds like some folks here haven't even achieved line on water yet or they wouldn't be worried about your posts. As for mantras. Hoom is for kapha imbalances (it'll stimulate you), Shreem for Pitta (it'll cool you down) and Raam for vata (it'll calm you). Give them a try for a few minutes each to see what they do. Mantras don't belong to TM. These are from Ayurveda. There are also many tribal mantras such as Om Agasthi Shahina (Ōm Ah-gah´-stee Shah-ee´-nah) which helps with sleep. You don't need a guru for these but they will work better for those who have been practicing meditation. On 06/21/2015 03:48 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Dear Doug, now I'm being accused of obscene ranting. What say you about these personal imprecations against me instead of the posters dealing with the issues? Heh -- like I'm bothered over here. Like I'm not enjoying being over the top. If I'm typing -- it's bliss. You want to bonk me for a true reason? I am violating the guideline that prohibits someone from posting merely to archive something here as if it were a private database. THAT'S ME. GUILTY AS CHARGED. I'm just showing my future mind what my past mind is like, and how anyone reacts to these notations is a sparrow fart in a hurricane. Here's some thoughts: Nine black folks still not buried and the moderator here MAYBE thinks a listing of mantras is to be forbidden. I don't know where that thought came from, but there it is. Three million children a year dying from drinking ditch water, but here we talk about whether David Lynch is being properly understood. The Magna Carta lies in ruins, but here we talk about mercury in drugs that only the elite can afford. 900 military bases around the world, but here we're encouraged to reconsider if Maharishi really really meant that we're not to eat root vegetables EVER or maybe a few now and then. 50,000 industrial chemicals in air, land and water, but here we are told to keep our discussions polite and spiritual instead of ROARING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT GIVE US THESE CHEMICALS THAT RUIN OUR MEDITATIONS BY PREVENTING OUR BRAINS FROM SETTLING DOWN DUE TO TOXIN-REMOVAL PROCESSES. The NSA is keeping track of the very dust motes in our inner sanctums, but here we have Doug is telling us to give more money to the TMO that he and EVERYONE knows goes straight to Girish who is a hoodlum in India. More thoughts later, dear future Edg.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Okay Everyone, I'm Stepping Up To The Plate!
Well, I admit, my drink of choice is Mountain Dew, and yes, you can now get it with cane sugar. We've been striking out with theater movies lately. Below, is my wife's most favorite, recent movie. A Hijacking http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ A Hijacking http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ Critics Consensus: A tense, gripping thriller, A Hijacking avoids action movie cliches and instead creates a palpable sense of dread by mixing gritty realism ... View on www.rottentomatoes... http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_hijacking/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Mexican Coca-Cola is the way to go. It uses sugar rather than HFCS. Tastes like the cola that was around when I was a kid. In fact the company that makes those lime and orange sodas that Mexican restaurants serve has also gotten into the sugar sweeten cola biz. Pepsi tried it a few years back but didn't continue. Coke seems to be behind the curve. Many candy companies are dropping HFCS. We've had those new fangled drink dispensers at some theaters here for years. I looked into the theater butter flavoring and apparently after years of taking hits they make it from natural ingredients. It's oilier than butter though. You can even buy the stuff online from places like Amazon and put it on your own popcorn. I like melted sweet cream butter from Europe. And sometimes I pop with olive oil and throw some herbs in too. I recently got a new Whirly Popper to replace the old one. Looks like they have made the gears which are about the only thing that breaks replaceable. On 06/21/2015 04:56 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Excellent point about the reclining seats. Yes, the wife did almost doze off, she said. Now, unfortunately this theater did not have real butter, but here's the deal. They had two (fake) butter dispensers, where you serve your own butter flavored stuff. And get this, the dispenser next to the one I was using was empty, so there was a guy waiting for me to finish, and I felt some obligation to butter my corn quickly, and, alas, shorted myself. Now, as I had asked for a cardboard tray so both my wife and I could have our own batches, my wife's portion got shorted as well, but she didn't mind. I have not tasted a Coke Zero, so I cannot testify to the taste, but I am happy to report that the Coke was up to standard. And, I might add, I can immediately detect when I have been served a Diet Coke, as opposed to a real Coke as sometimes happens. What I think happens in that case, is that the server, most often a woman, cannot fathom that anyone would order a regular coke, and so instinctively gets the Diet Coke. By the way, they had one of those new fangled soda dispensers where you can have most any variation of the drink you want. As a matter of fact, I served up, a lime coke, regular coke combo. Very satisfying. Now, as far as the movie is concerned, I don't know if you know anything about it, but it revolves around a girl, and her four primary emotions: Joy, Sadn! ess, Fear, and Anger, and how they those feelings play out in her daily life. Drama ensues, and things get pretty dicey, but not too intense for the younger audience. Sorta hard to give much a synopsis. Again, we went in with pretty high expectations, and felt a little let down. Thanks for asking! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote : Did you stay awake? I mean reclining seats though that may just be the seats like are at the theater up the hill from me that is all digital (one of the first in the Bay Area). But the seat I take does not recline because it's right under the projection booth and that's to avoid any seat kickers or stinky tennies on the top of the seat next to me. So how was the movie? How was the popcorn? Real butter? How was the coke? Pixar is down the road about 30 miles from here. In and Out is a burger chain in California. I watched Blackhat which is a Michael Mann movie last night on DVD. It was so-so for a Michael Mann movie but it was free as Lucky's gives a code for a free DVD rental a week when you shop there. On 06/21/2015 03:50 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Movie Review In and Out My wife went to see this last night, as it had such marvelous reviews. We saw it in one of those renovated theaters with reclining seats which you can reserve ahead of time. We got popcorn and she got a Coke Zero and I got a regular Coke. The little feature beforehand was called LAVA, and we enjoyed that very much. The writer/director of Pixar's new film 'Lava' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A The
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Alex: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit that drove me from the organization in the first place. Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
says the one post a month, twelve posts a year, guy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : Alex: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit that drove me from the organization in the first place. Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's vote -- let's just see who wants Rick no rick keep Doug.....
keep doug -Original Message- From: geezerfr...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, Jun 21, 2015 9:41 pm Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's vote -- let's just see who wants Rick unseat Doug. A giant thumbs down on Doug.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
as I go along ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Interspersed comments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Why not give it a go, Curtis. Me: I am giving it my version of a go by commenting on issues I find relevant here. This new change is interesting, so I am writing about it. That is my go. If you mean why don't I change my opinion of what has happened here, I would need some better reasons than the ones I have for feeling the way I have been expressing. S: Are you serious? Why would I want you, or anyone else to change their opinion about something. All I am saying is that you are doing an awful lot of speculating about things that have not come to pass. S: Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? Me: My comment have almost exclusively been about what I object to in what HAS happened. S: Maybe I skim over posts too quickly. I don't see the heavy hand of censorship rearing its head. One participant has been booted, and the posting privileges of another has been suspended. You feel this has been unjustly done. Others feel it is long overdue. You express your opinion about it, I express mine. S: There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator Me: You can't combine these two because they are completely different cases. R did not get bounced because he was a troll which he also was. He got bounced for attempting to hurt me in the real world by using information about me against me. Then he went over to the Peak and was allowed to do the same thing. His intention was harm, there was no other reasonable reason to search out posts in the long past where my name appeared and post them repeatedly against my will and after getting banned for this before. This bizarre-O situation has nothing to do with Barry's situation. We know what got one bounced and not the other. . S: Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. Me: I never said I objected to Barry having his privileges revoked because the reason has not been revealed to me. I object to that. If the reason was because Barry called David Lynch an idiot for giving the Guru of the Beatles a million dollars for a course MMY did not attend, than I would object to that reason. So far that is all I know he got flagged for. S: I gather that there is quite a disagreement, about Barry's comments about David Lynch, and whether they constituted a violation of the new guidelines such that it justified his suspension. I was not reading FFL at that time and only came back once I saw his posting privileges had been revoked. The best I can say, is that he attempted to obstruct the new moderator at every step, and so his participation was stopped. But, I will say, that I think it was a positive action and that the site is better off for it. I see no one else here who comes with an overriding agenda to prove TM is a cult and attempts to make this point with the majority of their posts, in a real or imagined way. And again, the results seem to speak for themselves. I don't see anyone's content being flagged. S: You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Me: I think the reaction from some posters is appropriate given who is the moderator here. S: Where is the evidence? Me: In his posts where he described what violated Yahoo guidelines about a tame post about David Lynch being an idiot. In the lack of posts that let us know how a person got booted and which interpretation of the guidelines was used to determine his fate. I get it that you think this gun will never be aimed at you, and you are glad Barry is gone. We may use this place for different reasons which compels us to view all this differently. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Earth entering new extinction phase
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Cheers! The Earth has entered a new period of extinction, a study by three US universities has concluded, and humans could be among the first casualties. I won't miss them, I hear they are a right bunch of idiots. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33209548 http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33209548
[FairfieldLife] Is the Pope not a dope?
At this rate our radical pontiff will start to question the existence of god and his right to control women's reproductive rights. Might even start to like the guy when that happens! Pope Francis says those in weapons industry can't call themselves Christian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian Pope Francis says those in weapons industry can't ca... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian At rally of young people in Turin, Francis issues his toughest condemnation to date of the weapons industry, criticising investors as well as workers View on www.theguardian.com http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/22/pope-francis-says-those-in-weapons-industry-cant-call-themselves-christian Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Well, it's self evident.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also?
Eh? How do you work that out?
They were a nice bunch of young girls actually, I commended them on their
banner and said they'd won my prize for the finest political statement of the
day and tried to get a photo but got jostled by the multitudes and it was
blurry otherwise I'd post it so you could see they were OK types.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Great slogan huh?
It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday.
What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages,
races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a
class war on the poor.
And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police
station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the
excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick
their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow.
We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers
demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to
Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past
the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square,
finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and
even overflowing into St James' park.
What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline
Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I
missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave
someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of
community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the
downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to
challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no
say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned
their way into power.
And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint
a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday
afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re your comment: I read somewhere that the placing of thoughts and emotions is cultural: I read somewhere a thought experiment that questioned our placing of the centre of consciousness in our brains/heads. The philosopher asked us to imagine a world just like ours but in which our eyes were situated on our ankles. Think about it for a moment. Would you still then be sure that the brain is where you are? There was a Horizon documentary about consciousness research and some bright sparks had built a helmet with an inner screen the wearer can see but that picks up it's picture from cameras on the front of a helmet someone else is wearing. You know it isn't you but cannot not react to the image you see as being you. I know that isn't exactly what you are saying but it showed that we can be fooled easily. The idea is that we place our consciousness arbitrarily. My guess is that we put it inside our head for convenience or maybe because it's where our senses join up. But the idea there is a Cartesian theatre in the middle of our brains is just wrong and seems like a clever trick we play on ourselves but to what extent could we be fooling ourselves? An experiment is still underway to test whether consciousness can leave the body and go on astral journeys. In certain hospital operating and emergency rooms there are things placed on high shelves that cannot be seen from below and are unknown even to the staff working there. The idea is that when someone has an out of body experience and lifts out of their body to view it from above (as they claim happens) they will be asked to give a detailed description of the room. If they miss the surprise objects we will know they are mistaken and the current theory that we can place our conscious experience wherever we want and are not actually moving it around will be the more likely. This means that the evidence gained thus far for OBE's like people supposedly under anaesthetic being able to remember what doctors said, can be explained by simpler means like parts of the brain not shutting down as expected. It's only a very small number of people who are near death that report any sort of leaving their body thing and that needs an explanation too. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is really fascinating: Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Posted by Alexander Mordvintsev, Software Engineer, Christopher Olah, Software Engineering Intern and Mike Tyka, Software Engineer View on googleresearch.blogsp... http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Okay Everyone, I'm Stepping Up To The Plate!
Excellent point about the reclining seats. Yes, the wife did almost doze off, she said. Now, unfortunately this theater did not have real butter, but here's the deal. They had two (fake) butter dispensers, where you serve your own butter flavored stuff. And get this, the dispenser next to the one I was using was empty, so there was a guy waiting for me to finish, and I felt some obligation to butter my corn quickly, and, alas, shorted myself. Now, as I had asked for a cardboard tray so both my wife and I could have our own batches, my wife's portion got shorted as well, but she didn't mind. I have not tasted a Coke Zero, so I cannot testify to the taste, but I am happy to report that the Coke was up to standard. And, I might add, I can immediately detect when I have been served a Diet Coke, as opposed to a real Coke as sometimes happens. What I think happens in that case, is that the server, most often a woman, cannot fathom that anyone would order a regular coke, and so instinctively gets the Diet Coke. By the way, they had one of those new fangled soda dispensers where you can have most any variation of the drink you want. As a matter of fact, I served up, a lime coke, regular coke combo. Very satisfying. Now, as far as the movie is concerned, I don't know if you know anything about it, but it revolves around a girl, and her four primary emotions: Joy, Sadness, Fear, and Anger, and how they those feelings play out in her daily life. Drama ensues, and things get pretty dicey, but not too intense for the younger audience. Sorta hard to give much a synopsis. Again, we went in with pretty high expectations, and felt a little let down. Thanks for asking! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Did you stay awake? I mean reclining seats though that may just be the seats like are at the theater up the hill from me that is all digital (one of the first in the Bay Area). But the seat I take does not recline because it's right under the projection booth and that's to avoid any seat kickers or stinky tennies on the top of the seat next to me. So how was the movie? How was the popcorn? Real butter? How was the coke? Pixar is down the road about 30 miles from here. In and Out is a burger chain in California. I watched Blackhat which is a Michael Mann movie last night on DVD. It was so-so for a Michael Mann movie but it was free as Lucky's gives a code for a free DVD rental a week when you shop there. On 06/21/2015 03:50 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Movie Review In and Out My wife went to see this last night, as it had such marvelous reviews. We saw it in one of those renovated theaters with reclining seats which you can reserve ahead of time. We got popcorn and she got a Coke Zero and I got a regular Coke. The little feature beforehand was called LAVA, and we enjoyed that very much. The writer/director of Pixar's new film 'Lava' The writer/director of Pixar's new film 'Lava... Inspired by the isolated beauty of tropical islands and the explosive allure of ocean volcanoes, the film is a musical love story that takes place over milli... View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo Now, I have never watched Game of Thrones, so I really can't offer a baseline comparison, but I'd say the film was okay, but did not live up to the almost uniform rave reviews. I'm giving it a B. (oops, maybe, I should go A- or C+ (-:
[FairfieldLife] Earth entering new extinction phase
Cheers! The Earth has entered a new period of extinction, a study by three US universities has concluded, and humans could be among the first casualties. http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33209548
Re: [FairfieldLife] Let's vote -- let's just see who wants Rick unseat Doug.....
A giant thumbs down on Doug.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
You: says the one post a month, twelve posts a year, guy Me: That's correct. You got a problem with that or are you saying that that the amount of posting gives you Chit credit for the worth of your opinions?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Lately, with respect to how Rick deals with FFL stuff, I'm completely out of the loop. The last time I emailed him about a FFL issue, he didn't even respond. If you have burning questions for Rick, I suggest you contact him yourself; perhaps, you'll have better luck than me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I'd still like the moderation process to be a bit more transparent, but if Doug and Rick discussed the Turq situation, then for me, the issue is settled. Geeze, Alex, that's so cleverly Swiss of you. Heh. Keyword of yours: if -- you're in the dark it seems, but come on, be a mensch and ASK RICK FOR US what in the hell he's being shy about. YOU HAVE EASY ACCESS AND INTIMACY. RICK'LL LAY IT OUT TO YOU. His new hired gun is pissing off half the party goers, and why the stressin' on us? We'd love a report from you about Rick's response. Or, tell us you're management and are part of a circling of the wagons, and hey, maybe I'll understand, but no I won't cuz I'm being a dick about this issue. Gotta be consistent. You fer or agin us? Take a stand. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak@... wrote : Alex: Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. Me: 100% agree Alex. I looked in late last week as part of my once-every-few-months look and was appalled to see what is going on. Turq was ALWAYS an interesting and entertaining poster, only rivaled by Curtis IMO. And now this guy Buck/Doug is running roughshod on the group deciding who is 'on program' and who is not? Fuck that, that is EXACTLY the kind of TMO bullshit that drove me from the organization in the first place. Rick, you once told me that Doug was really a great guy when I complained about his Buck persona to you privately years ago. I'm not in a position to know what kind of guy he is, great or otherwise, but he is so clearly a fucking joke of a moderator. Seriously, Rick are you kidding me? Unless you yourself have gone insane I refuse to believe you think Doug is the man for this job. Say it ain't so Rick!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Quiet Day
I live in Oregon and I am a Democrat. I kept getting hounded by my party here in the evening to the point where I finally said put me on the do not call again list. I explained I'm not changing the way I vote or how I donate, but I want to be left alone to enjoy my evening. You're just pissing me off. I take the calls from the Republicans, however, so I can fuck with them for a while. We have vote by mail here, which I love, so most of the calls are unnecessary anyway.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
you know , it's like the self referral state. It's a circular action. Self
experiences self experiencing self. Fucker fucks fucking fucker fucking fucking
fucker. kookookajube.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Well, it's self evident.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :
But wouldn't that make them fucking fuckers also?
Eh? How do you work that out?
They were a nice bunch of young girls actually, I commended them on their
banner and said they'd won my prize for the finest political statement of the
day and tried to get a photo but got jostled by the multitudes and it was
blurry otherwise I'd post it so you could see they were OK types.
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Great slogan huh?
It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday.
What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages,
races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a
class war on the poor.
And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police
station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the
excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick
their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow.
We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers
demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to
Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past
the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square,
finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and
even overflowing into St James' park.
What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline
Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I
missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave
someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of
community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the
downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to
challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no
say in even though we didn't know what they would be like when they conned
their way into power.
And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint
a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday
afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Hehe, I almost posted asking if you were there when I saw the news item yesterday but figured you weren't. Now I see I should have. :-D Oh I never miss a chance to rage against the powers that be, especially when the Tories are in power. If you don't say something loudly the out-of-touch authorities just assume you approve of them. You would have loved it I'm sure. There were some great speakers and a real sense that the revolution has started. The first step is finding out who is in for the long fight and it looks like there are plenty of concerned souls all making plans for action to bring down the Eton toffs. Whether anything will come of it I don't know, but you've got to try we'll have more rallies and parties. Hopefully the MSM will have more to say about it than simply mentioning that former choir girl Charlotte Church was there. On 06/21/2015 12:20 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we d! idn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? What's telling is what doesn't get moderated. It's a funny day when you don't have to scroll past 30 posts of trolling, whining and nagging and all of it aimed by people who don't contribute anything, except trying to be a pain in the ass, towards people who do! How does that work? But have an opinion about David Lynch that falls afoul of the leanings of the immoderator and then [gasp] chuck in a few swears and you're out of here without enough time to say TTFN to your mates. Is there's an agenda? These dismissive missives are a worry too. It's like Buck has turned into some sort of sattvic Big Brother: Thankyou for showing an interest in the moderation process. You may have noticed your account has been deleted. Please refer to the guidelines for further information. Then report to the dome to worship the unified field. It listens even if we don't. Jai Guru Us. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Crystal clear, thanks for posting this. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : This is still a complete lack of transparency (except for the case of 'R'). This explains nothing about precisely why Turq was dropped. It's not about coloured cards. It is about certain specific posts that occurred after you took this moderator job, because you specified 'going forward' — not what happened previous to that. So exactly what led you to pull the trigger. My vote is to unseat the CEO. But I have only one vote, and it depends on how democratic Rick feels, as you are not democratic in regards to spiritual philosophy. You do not look at it in an abstract philosophical way, you look at it in a much more rigid religious way. In 2009 you wrote to Turq Om no, no, Turq; That what thee don't know may not hurt thee or else explains a lot otherwise. Spiritually aware people seem to know... You are talking to him like a Quaker here (except for the 'Om'). I would say you have a predisposition against free-thinking philosophical enquiry, something that is absolutely necessary to engage with finding out what enlightenment is or is not. You also repeatedly posted items substituting 'the unified field' for the word 'God'. I am suggesting that you have a built-in bias that underlies, out of sight, your desire to use the Yahoo guidelines to eliminate those who do not share your ideas of community and spirituality. Writing here as a conservative meditator I should like to share this meditation hymn with our straying meditator friend [Turq] and once benighted soul here. Is a beautiful meditation hymn with a strong lesson for even fallen away meditators. To come home. Oh there is tremendous mercy in the unified field, its compassion mercifully is in the physics of it. Ex-patriots, come home to meditation. Make your choice and grace you'll find there is in the natural law of the Unified Field. You also said the above. That pretty much nails your attitude against rigorous questioning of spiritual concepts to discover if they have any real value. You want a conservative retreat from this with everything settled in a certain predetermined way. Some spiritual concepts do have value, but one cannot know this without discovering value oneself, at some point you have to toss the guidebooks and take the matter in hand. And what works for one person may not work for another. I feel you want people to slide back into a nice cult-like mentality, and this is exactly what we are attempting to rid ourselves of. You are using the guidelines as a smokescreen for your real intentions, and as such I feel you are unsuited for the job. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone from FFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner. We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking our additional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in the controls. From Soccer.. A red card will be shown to a player who has committed a serious offence such as violent conduct or an illegal and purposeful obstruction of a goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team. A red card will also be shown to a player who accumulates two yellow cards for more minor offenses. These guys who have presently been ejected from FFL were well beyond accumulating two yellow cards. It was quite time for their ejections from FFL to secure our alignment as a yahoo-group with the yahoo-guidelines. -JaiGuruYou!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think Doug is doing a great job as moderator. FFL should not be an abusive environment, and as Doug has said, the Yahoo guidelines are pretty simple. It should also be evident to anyone why TurquoiseB was removed, as a recent returnee has explained. You would have to be willfully blind not to see it. I concur with feste with regard to Doug for the following reasons: He is about the only person willing to take on this onerous job of moderation. No matter who had the job there would always be those who would naysay and complain and raise the red flag with regard to freedom of thought and speech and cry foul and complain that they don't understand why so and so has been silenced or accuse said moderator of bias and tyrannical inclinations. It goes with the territory. Doug actually gives a shit about this place which is more than I can say for those who were continually shitting in the nest, so to speak. Some here obviously consider FFL a kind of second home or, at least, a place they want/need to frequent daily - often for years. While I am not (yet) one of these people I have witnessed that, despite the fact they want the place to remain, they don't treat it like anything other than their personal soapbox to the detriment of the rest of the participants. Doug appears to want to create space for as many as possible to contribute unencumbered by other's personal and often selfish agendas. Great. If you wants the job then allow him the opportunity. My vote is for Doug at this point in time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nice to hear from folks again and see folks returning and some joining FFL again. Feels like watching the migration flyways where waterfowl in traveling drop in out of the sky to rest and feed along the way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone from FFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner. We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking our additional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in the controls. From Soccer.. A red card will be shown to a player who has committed a serious offence such as violent conduct or an illegal and purposeful obstruction of a goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team. A red card will also be shown to a player who accumulates two yellow cards for more minor offenses. These guys who have presently been ejected from FFL were well beyond accumulating two yellow cards. It was quite time for their ejections from FFL to secure our alignment as a yahoo-group with the yahoo-guidelines. -JaiGuruYou!
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Doug, now I'm being accused of obscene ranting. What say you about these personal imprecations against me instead of the posters dealing with the issues? Heh -- like I'm bothered over here. Like I'm not enjoying being over the top. If I'm typing -- it's bliss. You want to bonk me for a true reason? I am violating the guideline that prohibits someone from posting merely to archive something here as if it were a private database. THAT'S ME. GUILTY AS CHARGED. I'm just showing my future mind what my past mind is like, and how anyone reacts to these notations is a sparrow fart in a hurricane. Here's some thoughts: Nine black folks still not buried and the moderator here MAYBE thinks a listing of mantras is to be forbidden. I don't know where that thought came from, but there it is. Three million children a year dying from drinking ditch water, but here we talk about whether David Lynch is being properly understood. The Magna Carta lies in ruins, but here we talk about mercury in drugs that only the elite can afford. 900 military bases around the world, but here we're encouraged to reconsider if Maharishi really really meant that we're not to eat root vegetables EVER or maybe a few now and then. 50,000 industrial chemicals in air, land and water, but here we are told to keep our discussions polite and spiritual instead of ROARING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT GIVE US THESE CHEMICALS THAT RUIN OUR MEDITATIONS BY PREVENTING OUR BRAINS FROM SETTLING DOWN DUE TO TOXIN-REMOVAL PROCESSES. The NSA is keeping track of the very dust motes in our inner sanctums, but here we have Doug is telling us to give more money to the TMO that he and EVERYONE knows goes straight to Girish who is a hoodlum in India. More thoughts later, dear future Edg. You are having way too much fun; there outta be a law... this amount of fun is positively obscene.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
An obscene rant is exactly what it was. Obscene rants are not welcome on FFL. See the Yahoo! guidelines. And also, Duveyoung, are you not aware that it is a very poor writer who can only make his point by spewing out obscenities? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Doug, now I'm being accused of obscene ranting. What say you about these personal imprecations against me instead of the posters dealing with the issues? Heh -- like I'm bothered over here. Like I'm not enjoying being over the top. If I'm typing -- it's bliss. You want to bonk me for a true reason? I am violating the guideline that prohibits someone from posting merely to archive something here as if it were a private database. THAT'S ME. GUILTY AS CHARGED. I'm just showing my future mind what my past mind is like, and how anyone reacts to these notations is a sparrow fart in a hurricane. Here's some thoughts: Nine black folks still not buried and the moderator here MAYBE thinks a listing of mantras is to be forbidden. I don't know where that thought came from, but there it is. Three million children a year dying from drinking ditch water, but here we talk about whether David Lynch is being properly understood. The Magna Carta lies in ruins, but here we talk about mercury in drugs that only the elite can afford. 900 military bases around the world, but here we're encouraged to reconsider if Maharishi really really meant that we're not to eat root vegetables EVER or maybe a few now and then. 50,000 industrial chemicals in air, land and water, but here we are told to keep our discussions polite and spiritual instead of ROARING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT GIVE US THESE CHEMICALS THAT RUIN OUR MEDITATIONS BY PREVENTING OUR BRAINS FROM SETTLING DOWN DUE TO TOXIN-REMOVAL PROCESSES. The NSA is keeping track of the very dust motes in our inner sanctums, but here we have Doug is telling us to give more money to the TMO that he and EVERYONE knows goes straight to Girish who is a hoodlum in India. More thoughts later, dear future Edg.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Sounds like some folks here haven't even achieved line on water yet or they wouldn't be worried about your posts. As for mantras. Hoom is for kapha imbalances (it'll stimulate you), Shreem for Pitta (it'll cool you down) and Raam for vata (it'll calm you). Give them a try for a few minutes each to see what they do. Mantras don't belong to TM. These are from Ayurveda. There are also many tribal mantras such as Om Agasthi Shahina (Ōm Ah-gah´-stee Shah-ee´-nah) which helps with sleep. You don't need a guru for these but they will work better for those who have been practicing meditation. On 06/21/2015 03:48 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Dear Doug, now I'm being accused of obscene ranting. What say you about these personal imprecations against me instead of the posters dealing with the issues? Heh -- like I'm bothered over here. Like I'm not enjoying being over the top. If I'm typing -- it's bliss. You want to bonk me for a true reason? I am violating the guideline that prohibits someone from posting merely to archive something here as if it were a private database. THAT'S ME. GUILTY AS CHARGED. I'm just showing my future mind what my past mind is like, and how anyone reacts to these notations is a sparrow fart in a hurricane. Here's some thoughts: Nine black folks still not buried and the moderator here MAYBE thinks a listing of mantras is to be forbidden. I don't know where that thought came from, but there it is. Three million children a year dying from drinking ditch water, but here we talk about whether David Lynch is being properly understood. The Magna Carta lies in ruins, but here we talk about mercury in drugs that only the elite can afford. 900 military bases around the world, but here we're encouraged to reconsider if Maharishi really really meant that we're not to eat root vegetables EVER or maybe a few now and then. 50,000 industrial chemicals in air, land and water, but here we are told to keep our discussions polite and spiritual instead of ROARING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT GIVE US THESE CHEMICALS THAT RUIN OUR MEDITATIONS BY PREVENTING OUR BRAINS FROM SETTLING DOWN DUE TO TOXIN-REMOVAL PROCESSES. The NSA is keeping track of the very dust motes in our inner sanctums, but here we have Doug is telling us to give more money to the TMO that he and EVERYONE knows goes straight to Girish who is a hoodlum in India. More thoughts later, dear future Edg.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
It's my understanding, Rick that you discontinued the comments section on Batgap due to..trolling. That is no different from the actions of one person, in particular here, who has found it necessary to shit on anyone with whom he has a difference of opinion. That, is the definition of trolling, and well demonstrated the poster in question. Everything else, including what we have below, is to use, a term from the past, drama queenery (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? Rick -- YOU'RE RUINING YOUR REPUTATION FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS DUDE. You've put a person in charge here that is running the joint like a Mafia extortionist. The muzzle is that we don't know what amounts to a punishable infraction. THIS IS PURE TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AS TAUGHT TO ALL OF US BY MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI. FFL posters are being kept afraid and in the dark. We're not told JACK SHIT. We never get to see our manila folders. You don't know what anyone is thinking about you or is beginning to think...errors are not allowed to be sussed out. Is Doug almost ready to dump me? I DON'T FUCKING GET TO KNOW! When I went into a private meeting with Maharishi, he penciled next to my photograph on the paper he held no beard now. SEE? SEE FUCKING SEE? I spent EIGHT MONTHS ON TEACHER TRAINING and I could have lost all that time and money if I'd kept my beard. THAT'S FRAUD. Try to get the Course Office to explain who gets a field badge and who doesn't. SAME DAMNED FUCKIN' SHITASS POLICY. THIS IS PURELY ABUSIVE AND CONTROL FREAK SHIT. And you ask us what we have for a bitch? That question too is worthy of condemnation -- it shows you don't have a fucking clue or are mindfully ignoring an issue like a redneck saying rebel flags iz good. My next action step is to confront Rick personally if he doesn't pony up here with a BIGASS explanation for allowing Doug to moderate any longer given how personally Doug is applying the guidelines. Seriouslyfirst private emails and then phone calls. Rick -- you owe me, you owe us, you owe your own integrity to fix this problem quickly. I have been a great fucking friend and supporter, Rick -- don't sand bag us on this. This is a deal killer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Why not give it a go, Curtis. Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator. Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Where is the evidence? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Dear Doug, I have been personally dissed and called a Drama Queen. What's your decision, Doug? Is calling someone a name an infraction? I'd like to know, before I break some rule's nuance that only you know about. Hurry up and answer, cuz I've got a bag full of names with steam coming out of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : It's my understanding, Rick that you discontinued the comments section on Batgap due to..trolling. That is no different from the actions of one person, in particular here, who has found it necessary to shit on anyone with whom he has a difference of opinion. That, is the definition of trolling, and well demonstrated the poster in question. Everything else, including what we have below, is to use, a term from the past, drama queenery (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? Rick -- YOU'RE RUINING YOUR REPUTATION FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS DUDE. You've put a person in charge here that is running the joint like a Mafia extortionist. The muzzle is that we don't know what amounts to a punishable infraction. THIS IS PURE TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AS TAUGHT TO ALL OF US BY MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI. FFL posters are being kept afraid and in the dark. We're not told JACK SHIT. We never get to see our manila folders. You don't know what anyone is thinking about you or is beginning to think...errors are not allowed to be sussed out. Is Doug almost ready to dump me? I DON'T FUCKING GET TO KNOW! When I went into a private meeting with Maharishi, he penciled next to my photograph on the paper he held no beard now. SEE? SEE FUCKING SEE? I spent EIGHT MONTHS ON TEACHER TRAINING and I could have lost all that time and money if I'd kept my beard. THAT'S FRAUD. Try to get the Course Office to explain who gets a field badge and who doesn't. SAME DAMNED FUCKIN' SHITASS POLICY. THIS IS PURELY ABUSIVE AND CONTROL FREAK SHIT. And you ask us what we have for a bitch? That question too is worthy of condemnation -- it shows you don't have a fucking clue or are mindfully ignoring an issue like a redneck saying rebel flags iz good. My next action step is to confront Rick personally if he doesn't pony up here with a BIGASS explanation for allowing Doug to moderate any longer given how personally Doug is applying the guidelines. Seriouslyfirst private emails and then phone calls. Rick -- you owe me, you owe us, you owe your own integrity to fix this problem quickly. I have been a great fucking friend and supporter, Rick -- don't sand bag us on this. This is a deal killer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Why not give it a go, Curtis. Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator. Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Where is the evidence? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fuck the Fucking Fuckers!
Hehe, I almost posted asking if you were there when I saw the news item yesterday but figured you weren't. Now I see I should have. :-D On 06/21/2015 12:20 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Great slogan huh? It was on a banner at the anti-capitalist march I went on in London yesterday. What a super day, so good to be amongst like-minded people all of all ages, races and creeds. United against a common enemy, a government that has waged a class war on the poor. And we did it peacefully, without setting fire to a single bank or police station! So much better to defeat an enemy by words, if you don't give them the excuse to get the truncheons out they have to open a dialogue with you or stick their hands in their ears and pretend you don't exist somehow. We assembled at the Bank of England and listened to various rabble rousers demanding revolution and then we marched - all 250,000 of us - all the way to Parliament square, past Downing street, past the shoppers on the Starnd, past the queues for the theatres, past the hordes of tourists in Trafalgar square, finally packing the Mall up to the Cenotaph and the bridges by Westminster and even overflowing into St James' park. What an atmosphere! Music, dancing, cheering at the speakers like Caroline Lucas, who was amazing, a true firebrand. Russel Brand had a go too but I missed that, I was too busy tapping my walking stick at an impromptu rave someone had started outside the Ministry of Defence. There was a real sense of community all day that reminded me that there are others that care about the downtrodden, others that want to change the miserable world we live in, to challenge the authorities that shape our lives and make decisions we have no say in even though we d! idn't know what they would be like when they conned their way into power. And if the slow class is in today, I chose the post title because you can paint a sign ten foot wide and carry it all the way through London on Saturday afternoon and everyone just laughs. But I wouldn't try it here if I was you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Correction, if he wants the job (not you wants the job). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I think Doug is doing a great job as moderator. FFL should not be an abusive environment, and as Doug has said, the Yahoo guidelines are pretty simple. It should also be evident to anyone why TurquoiseB was removed, as a recent returnee has explained. You would have to be willfully blind not to see it. I concur with feste with regard to Doug for the following reasons: He is about the only person willing to take on this onerous job of moderation. No matter who had the job there would always be those who would naysay and complain and raise the red flag with regard to freedom of thought and speech and cry foul and complain that they don't understand why so and so has been silenced or accuse said moderator of bias and tyrannical inclinations. It goes with the territory. Doug actually gives a shit about this place which is more than I can say for those who were continually shitting in the nest, so to speak. Some here obviously consider FFL a kind of second home or, at least, a place they want/need to frequent daily - often for years. While I am not (yet) one of these people I have witnessed that, despite the fact they want the place to remain, they don't treat it like anything other than their personal soapbox to the detriment of the rest of the participants. Doug appears to want to create space for as many as possible to contribute unencumbered by other's personal and often selfish agendas. Great. If you wants the job then allow him the opportunity. My vote is for Doug at this point in time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nice to hear from folks again and see folks returning and some joining FFL again. Feels like watching the migration flyways where waterfowl in traveling drop in out of the sky to rest and feed along the way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone from FFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner. We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking our additional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in the controls. From Soccer.. A red card will be shown to a player who has committed a serious offence such as violent conduct or an illegal and purposeful obstruction of a goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team. A red card will also be shown to a player who accumulates two yellow cards for more minor offenses. These guys who have presently been ejected from FFL were well beyond accumulating two yellow cards. It was quite time for their ejections from FFL to secure our alignment as a yahoo-group with the yahoo-guidelines. -JaiGuruYou!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
I think Doug is doing a great job as moderator. FFL should not be an abusive environment, and as Doug has said, the Yahoo guidelines are pretty simple. It should also be evident to anyone why TurquoiseB was removed, as a recent returnee has explained. You would have to be willfully blind not to see it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Nice to hear from folks again and see folks returning and some joining FFL again. Feels like watching the migration flyways where waterfowl in traveling drop in out of the sky to rest and feed along the way. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Yes, Turqb and Serious are gone from FFL by moderation. I am only the CEO. My master is the list owner. We had quite sufficient back and forth about this before taking our additional time to go in to pull the moderation levers in the controls. From Soccer.. A red card will be shown to a player who has committed a serious offence such as violent conduct or an illegal and purposeful obstruction of a goal scoring opportunity for the opposing team. A red card will also be shown to a player who accumulates two yellow cards for more minor offenses. These guys who have presently been ejected from FFL were well beyond accumulating two yellow cards. It was quite time for their ejections from FFL to secure our alignment as a yahoo-group with the yahoo-guidelines. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Why not give it a go, Curtis. Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator. Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Where is the evidence? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What sayest thou, Doug? Is Turq gone for good? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : Thanks for posting this Alex. Perhaps Buck/Doug will share the rational here so we can understand which of his interpretation of the previously never enforced vague Yahoo guidelines Barry violated. In the spirit of Barry's sense of humor here I think the only appropriate thing to do now is to initiate a dead pool list of who is going to be next in the the current purge. 1. Salyavin808 for his last brilliant, scathing indictment of Buck/Doug 2. Michael for his consistent efforts to put his finger in the eye of the pompous powers that be in the movement. 3. Me for trying to focus my lens more and more precisely on what it is that I object to in Buck/Doug's misuse of moderator power here. (I am speaking about his threat to Barry for stating his opinion of David Lynch, not for getting banned. Until he reveals it I don't know what his reasons were for that.) Game on! Who will be next? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I have zero idea what's going on, but I'll at least let him say goodbye. - Forwarded Message - From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... To: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:46 AM Subject: Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me? It appears that Doug has gone ahead with his threats and has deleted my access to Fairfield Life. I'm just wondering how he justifies doing this based on supposedly offending posts of mine made back in May when on June 9th in post #416493 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/416493?soc_src=mailsoc_trk=ma he explicitly said: In moderation at this point I feel “the past is a lesser state of evolution” and I am going forward with a clean slate on
[FairfieldLife] What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? Rick -- YOU'RE RUINING YOUR REPUTATION FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS DUDE. You've put a person in charge here that is running the joint like a Mafia extortionist. The muzzle is that we don't know what amounts to a punishable infraction. THIS IS PURE TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AS TAUGHT TO ALL OF US BY MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI. FFL posters are being kept afraid and in the dark. We're not told JACK SHIT. We never get to see our manila folders. You don't know what anyone is thinking about you or is beginning to think...errors are not allowed to be sussed out. Is Doug almost ready to dump me? I DON'T FUCKING GET TO KNOW! When I went into a private meeting with Maharishi, he penciled next to my photograph on the paper he held no beard now. SEE? SEE FUCKING SEE? I spent EIGHT MONTHS ON TEACHER TRAINING and I could have lost all that time and money if I'd kept my beard. THAT'S FRAUD. Try to get the Course Office to explain who gets a field badge and who doesn't. SAME DAMNED FUCKIN' SHITASS POLICY. THIS IS PURELY ABUSIVE AND CONTROL FREAK SHIT. And you ask us what we have for a bitch? That question too is worthy of condemnation -- it shows you don't have a fucking clue or are mindfully ignoring an issue like a redneck saying rebel flags iz good. My next action step is to confront Rick personally if he doesn't pony up here with a BIGASS explanation for allowing Doug to moderate any longer given how personally Doug is applying the guidelines. Seriouslyfirst private emails and then phone calls. Rick -- you owe me, you owe us, you owe your own integrity to fix this problem quickly. I have been a great fucking friend and supporter, Rick -- don't sand bag us on this. This is a deal killer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Why not give it a go, Curtis. Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator. Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Where is the evidence? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that TurquoiseB is never allowed to post here again. He is toxic for the entire group and should have been removed a long time ago. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Gonna ask again, Doug: did you ban Turq for good or will you be restoring his posting privileges at some point? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : I looked at the activity log, and Turq is still subscribed; all Doug did was kill his ability to post. Whereas, Rick booted *and* banned the one who shall not be mentioned (I think the banned list prevents a person from even sending a subscription request.) The only people I've given the boot are spammers, and I don't regard them as worthy of any kind of explanation. But, in the case of people who are actual participants, I think full disclosure is in order. In Turq's case, the reason is apparent, but it has not been disclosed if this is just a temporary time-out or permanent. The fact that Doug didn't actually unsubscribe him suggests the possibility that it isn't permanent. What
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
uh, for the record, I called what was written, drama queenery I don't recall referring to you personally as a drama queen little distinction there, which I'm sure you appreciate. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Doug, I have been personally dissed and called a Drama Queen. What's your decision, Doug? Is calling someone a name an infraction? I'd like to know, before I break some rule's nuance that only you know about. Hurry up and answer, cuz I've got a bag full of names with steam coming out of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : It's my understanding, Rick that you discontinued the comments section on Batgap due to..trolling. That is no different from the actions of one person, in particular here, who has found it necessary to shit on anyone with whom he has a difference of opinion. That, is the definition of trolling, and well demonstrated the poster in question. Everything else, including what we have below, is to use, a term from the past, drama queenery (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? Rick -- YOU'RE RUINING YOUR REPUTATION FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS DUDE. You've put a person in charge here that is running the joint like a Mafia extortionist. The muzzle is that we don't know what amounts to a punishable infraction. THIS IS PURE TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AS TAUGHT TO ALL OF US BY MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI. FFL posters are being kept afraid and in the dark. We're not told JACK SHIT. We never get to see our manila folders. You don't know what anyone is thinking about you or is beginning to think...errors are not allowed to be sussed out. Is Doug almost ready to dump me? I DON'T FUCKING GET TO KNOW! When I went into a private meeting with Maharishi, he penciled next to my photograph on the paper he held no beard now. SEE? SEE FUCKING SEE? I spent EIGHT MONTHS ON TEACHER TRAINING and I could have lost all that time and money if I'd kept my beard. THAT'S FRAUD. Try to get the Course Office to explain who gets a field badge and who doesn't. SAME DAMNED FUCKIN' SHITASS POLICY. THIS IS PURELY ABUSIVE AND CONTROL FREAK SHIT. And you ask us what we have for a bitch? That question too is worthy of condemnation -- it shows you don't have a fucking clue or are mindfully ignoring an issue like a redneck saying rebel flags iz good. My next action step is to confront Rick personally if he doesn't pony up here with a BIGASS explanation for allowing Doug to moderate any longer given how personally Doug is applying the guidelines. Seriouslyfirst private emails and then phone calls. Rick -- you owe me, you owe us, you owe your own integrity to fix this problem quickly. I have been a great fucking friend and supporter, Rick -- don't sand bag us on this. This is a deal killer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Why not give it a go, Curtis. Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator. Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Where is the evidence? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The birth of computer consciousness?
Re your comment: I read somewhere that the placing of thoughts and emotions is cultural: I read somewhere a thought experiment that questioned our placing of the centre of consciousness in our brains/heads. The philosopher asked us to imagine a world just like ours but in which our eyes were situated on our ankles. Think about it for a moment. Would you still then be sure that the brain is where you are? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This is really fascinating: Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Inceptionism: Going Deeper into Neural Networks http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Posted by Alexander Mordvintsev, Software Engineer, Christopher Olah, Software Engineering Intern and Mike Tyka, Software Engineer View on googleresearch.blogsp... http://googleresearch.blogspot.fr/2015/06/inceptionism-going-deeper-into-neural.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Actually, Duveyoung, you went on an obscene rant and got called on it. What's your problem? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Doug, I have been personally dissed and called a Drama Queen. What's your decision, Doug? Is calling someone a name an infraction? I'd like to know, before I break some rule's nuance that only you know about. Hurry up and answer, cuz I've got a bag full of names with steam coming out of it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : It's my understanding, Rick that you discontinued the comments section on Batgap due to..trolling. That is no different from the actions of one person, in particular here, who has found it necessary to shit on anyone with whom he has a difference of opinion. That, is the definition of trolling, and well demonstrated the poster in question. Everything else, including what we have below, is to use, a term from the past, drama queenery (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? Rick -- YOU'RE RUINING YOUR REPUTATION FOR BEING A RIGHTEOUS DUDE. You've put a person in charge here that is running the joint like a Mafia extortionist. The muzzle is that we don't know what amounts to a punishable infraction. THIS IS PURE TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION ORGANIZATIONAL POLICY AS TAUGHT TO ALL OF US BY MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI. FFL posters are being kept afraid and in the dark. We're not told JACK SHIT. We never get to see our manila folders. You don't know what anyone is thinking about you or is beginning to think...errors are not allowed to be sussed out. Is Doug almost ready to dump me? I DON'T FUCKING GET TO KNOW! When I went into a private meeting with Maharishi, he penciled next to my photograph on the paper he held no beard now. SEE? SEE FUCKING SEE? I spent EIGHT MONTHS ON TEACHER TRAINING and I could have lost all that time and money if I'd kept my beard. THAT'S FRAUD. Try to get the Course Office to explain who gets a field badge and who doesn't. SAME DAMNED FUCKIN' SHITASS POLICY. THIS IS PURELY ABUSIVE AND CONTROL FREAK SHIT. And you ask us what we have for a bitch? That question too is worthy of condemnation -- it shows you don't have a fucking clue or are mindfully ignoring an issue like a redneck saying rebel flags iz good. My next action step is to confront Rick personally if he doesn't pony up here with a BIGASS explanation for allowing Doug to moderate any longer given how personally Doug is applying the guidelines. Seriouslyfirst private emails and then phone calls. Rick -- you owe me, you owe us, you owe your own integrity to fix this problem quickly. I have been a great fucking friend and supporter, Rick -- don't sand bag us on this. This is a deal killer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Why not give it a go, Curtis. Instead of worrying about what could be, why not give it a go and see what happens? There are two, two people that are not here as a result of the actions of the group owner and the new moderator. Everything else has been pure speculation on the part of those who object to one person having his posting privileges revoked. You would think, by the reaction, that a muzzle has been put on the participants here. Where is the evidence? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Thanks for all your concern for the community here. The yahoo-guidelines are really quite simple. Folks will be quite fine on FFL as they write well within the wide margins of tolerance that are the Yahoo-groups guidelines. Me: S, we shouldn't worry our pretty little heads, is that it? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Regardless of how folks feel about Turq, moderation should be carried out transparently, and not in a secret, undefined manner. Me: Exactly Alex. No one can follow the lines if they are not painted clearly. When people hide the criteria they are using to judge people it creates... another TM movement. So far, this experiment with Doug as moderator is starting to remind me of when Rick put an Amma fanatic in charge of moderating the Amma free speech group, with the end result being the loss of free speech and the creation of the Amma Real Free Speech group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Turq's posting is exactly the reason so many social sites have shut down their comment sections. Excessive and abusive trolling. I see little downside to having his participation here terminated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I sincerely hope that
[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay Everyone, I'm Stepping Up To The Plate!
My wife and I, meant to say. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Movie Review In and Out My wife went to see this last night, as it had such marvelous reviews. We saw it in one of those renovated theaters with reclining seats which you can reserve ahead of time. We got popcorn and she got a Coke Zero and I got a regular Coke. The little feature beforehand was called LAVA, and we enjoyed that very much. The writer/director of Pixar's new film 'Lava' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A The writer/director of Pixar's new film 'Lava... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A Inspired by the isolated beauty of tropical islands and the explosive allure of ocean volcanoes, the film is a musical love story that takes place over milli... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5qYttARw8A Preview by Yahoo Now, I have never watched Game of Thrones, so I really can't offer a baseline comparison, but I'd say the film was okay, but did not live up to the almost uniform rave reviews. I'm giving it a B. (oops, maybe, I should go A- or C+ (-:
[FairfieldLife] Re: What in the hell are you thinking, Rick Archer? -- Alex, can you post a question to the forum for me?
Edg, rant, or type away! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Dear Doug, now I'm being accused of obscene ranting. What say you about these personal imprecations against me instead of the posters dealing with the issues? Heh -- like I'm bothered over here. Like I'm not enjoying being over the top. If I'm typing -- it's bliss. You want to bonk me for a true reason? I am violating the guideline that prohibits someone from posting merely to archive something here as if it were a private database. THAT'S ME. GUILTY AS CHARGED. I'm just showing my future mind what my past mind is like, and how anyone reacts to these notations is a sparrow fart in a hurricane. Here's some thoughts: Nine black folks still not buried and the moderator here MAYBE thinks a listing of mantras is to be forbidden. I don't know where that thought came from, but there it is. Three million children a year dying from drinking ditch water, but here we talk about whether David Lynch is being properly understood. The Magna Carta lies in ruins, but here we talk about mercury in drugs that only the elite can afford. 900 military bases around the world, but here we're encouraged to reconsider if Maharishi really really meant that we're not to eat root vegetables EVER or maybe a few now and then. 50,000 industrial chemicals in air, land and water, but here we are told to keep our discussions polite and spiritual instead of ROARING AGAINST THE POWERS OF THE WORLD THAT GIVE US THESE CHEMICALS THAT RUIN OUR MEDITATIONS BY PREVENTING OUR BRAINS FROM SETTLING DOWN DUE TO TOXIN-REMOVAL PROCESSES. The NSA is keeping track of the very dust motes in our inner sanctums, but here we have Doug is telling us to give more money to the TMO that he and EVERYONE knows goes straight to Girish who is a hoodlum in India. More thoughts later, dear future Edg. You are having way too much fun; there outta be a law... this amount of fun is positively obscene.
