[FairfieldLife] Re: Neurostimulation
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Transcranial Direct Current Stimulation (tDCS) is a low-voltage, D.I.Y. take on those scary electro-convulsive therapy procedures which we've all seen in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Researchers claim that juicing the brain with just 2 milliamps (all you need is a 9-volt battery) can help with everything from learning languages, to quitting smoking, to overcoming depression. Is zapping your own brain going to be the TM of the 21st century? One hundred dollars will buy you the basic kit here . . . Excellent, I love having an experiment to conduct on myself. I shall report back when fully stimulated (oo-er) What I want to know in phase 2 is, what happens if you mix TM and electro-stimulation. A new dawn awaits... tDCS Travel Model Advanced Kit - The Brain Stimulator https://thebrainstimulator.net/product/tdcs-travel-model-advanced/ https://thebrainstimulator.net/product/tdcs-travel-model-advanced/ tDCS Travel Model Advanced Kit - The Brain Stimulator https://thebrainstimulator.net/product/tdcs-travel-model-advanced/ The smallest, lightest most affordable tDCS device is here! Meet The Brain Stimulator tDCS Travel Model paired with everything you need, on Sale for $105! View on thebrainstimulator.net https://thebrainstimulator.net/product/tdcs-travel-model-advanced/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic. Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on domination. 2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In lieu of
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Nice pic. Did you walk out and retrieve the ball? I tried but I couldn't work out where it had gone. In the morning it dawned on me. On 07/01/2015 07:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veddy British
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Felt quite the Scorpion yesterday, probably because I had smoked kippers on toast for breakfast, spent much of the day with my daughter and on the way home listened to the Kinks. Their hits, Sunny Afternoon and Dead End Street sound rather apropos to the Scorpion Land of today. Yeah, not half, but as long as I can gaze on Waterloo sunset I am in paradise I'll be there at the weekend actually, after a hard weeks work made harder by the heat that we aren't used to and always comes as a shock no matter how much we crave it during the winter. It's good to spend a day strolling on the south bank of the Thames, taking photo's, visiting galleries and stopping at cafes or eating ice cream in the shade of a tree. Making hay while the sun shines..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL
Well, I'm still here, and while preparing my breakfast, I cognized what may very well be the world's most risky investment: Greek bond derivatives, purchased on margin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : --- steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, freakin' light bulb just went off in my head. why you don't adopt the patented font, with the patented (-: (-: (-: and maybe it will make you feel better. whaddya say! (-: --- salyavin808@... wrote : He just said goodbye, what else are you expecting? How's the weather in old Blighty? Let's see, Barry dumped, Shemp left, authfriend left, Llundrub left, off_world left, KennyH left, Sal sunshine left, Willy dumped. Vaj left. I think Xeno and Curtis left. Time for me to leave as well. Mahesh Yogi taught you 'the art of living'. But, you should also know the 'art of leaving'. Nice knowing all, past posters, present posters. I think Barry's last words on the forum is this, Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. Same here. Ditto. I thought you already had left. Bon Voyage. --- anartaxius@... wrote : z zz..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
It's a chat room. I'm chatting. Doug wrecked this place so we talk about him. ok, fair enough. that's your take about the wrecking part. Someones got to. hey, if that's your bag, go for it. Jesus I'm tired of explaining the same things to the sametrue believers who decide that living in denial is a good idea. It's easier than thinking is all it is. speaking of being tired, I gotta say playing the true believer card on those who disagree with you, would strike me as tired, as we've had decades of that here. God almighty, you really do scrape the barrel to try and bolster yourself when someone pints out you are talking crap. Anyway you can get someone else to explain things to you, I'm outta here. A good decision, I think, under the circumstances. Best of luck to you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic. Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on domination. 2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be inspected. 3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign. Why? Because: Rama and Sita. Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to hell because A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile blackeyes. Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said Fuck your fame.I'm your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and your shit jobs at MUM. He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too. Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh ogi Ved... View on www.freepressjournal.in http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
if your assertions are true, how do you account for the fact that other members
of the Indian TMO have accused Girish of fraud, manipulation, creating fake
documents and selling off Movement lands in direct contravention of Marshy's
wishes after his death? They are suing him over these illegal land grabs and
land sales.
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financial and sexual criminal?
yes I have rejected all your accusations with a sweep of my keyboard,
Girish is not the leader of the movement, and all international monies going to
India have been closely monitored for years, since not long after Maharishi
passed, by Raja Harris Caplan. Those responsible for having let monies go to
India without careful accounting don't have any financial responsibility or
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? I'd have to second Steve here. There are so many things on this planet that are pure bunk and I'm pretty sure whatever one pseudo scientist says (if Hagelin is a pseudo scientist - I don't know enough about him or care enough to find out. But perhaps I have made this point very clear time after time: I don't follow what the Movement is doing and haven't for over 25 years and the only reason I know anything about it now is because people - most who claim to despise the Movement and most of those at the helm of it - talk about it ALL THE TIME HERE). Now, I like to make a beef about what I see as laughable or preposterous as well as the next guy but to continually try and change how people think or to get my proverbial knickers in a twist about it will change nothing if all one is doing is sitting at home and whining about it. Go to the press, stand out with a placard somewhere, create some intelligent expose that proves what these people, yagyas and all, are bullshit. DO SOMETHING! But mostly you're preaching to the choir here. Go out where you can make a difference and PROVE something. Until someone does this it is all just hearsay or opinion that neither party can back up. It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Great, demonstrate it. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. Well, some people accept it just like some accept Jesus as their savior, some believe gluten is bad for them and others are convinced Black Sabbath was the greatest rock band on the planet. See, there's all kinds of crazy out there... I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's not coercion, it's just another attempt to sell a product. If watching an ad on TV or having friends encourage you to read a book or your TM teacher suggesting you wear rudraksha beads around your neck is coercion then you need to get a backbone. Coercion is being threatened by someone, with the power to actually enforce it, with losing your job or your right hand or your life if you don't pay $500 for a yagya. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. So, it's denial. It's for him to work out, isn't it? It seems to me we're seeing a different side to Doug. Actually seeing quite a bit less, which I think is also revealing. What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? My sphere of influence is rather small, but I do interact with a number of people each day. And aside from routine matters of business, or grocery shopping, I try to say something, or do something, which I think may spark a new way of thinking about things. I've also discovered that being a good listener helps people process areas of difficulty. Admittedly, these are small accomplishments, if you want to call them that, but that is where I am in this regard. It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. You know, the audience is mostly grown adults, right? Do I need to tell grown adults what they should, or should not believe? I don't believe I should. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned physicist for instance, and claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. Well, again, he can claim anything he wants. What is his sphere of influence? Rather small, I'd say. So, what is the problem? Who is being coerced to buy into any of it? I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. Okay, the movement claims that pure consciousness, and the yet to be discovered unified field are one, and therefore everyone has access to this field of all possibilities And you find this to be a dangerous concept that is worthy of being censored? And you, who are on record about being concerned with things that are wrong in the world, choose this as a priority. That strikes me as a little odd. But so be it. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. You know, of course, the movement is aging, rapidly. There is not a large number of core participants. Grown adults, in my book, are capable of buying into whatever philosophy or way of life they choose. No one needs me to stand in judgement of what they may choose to believe. And for the great majority of even those core believers, they also, take what they need, or want, and leave the rest. I count many as friends, and they recognize fact from fiction. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. It sounds to me that you have a desire impose your own values on those who you feel are being deluded, which is okay, I guess, except that for someone appears to be concerned with social activism, it's an odd area to focus on. But, maybe it's low hanging fruit, and serves other needs you might have. Heh, I just read your reply now Steve. It appears we agree on a lot of the points here. It's great to get all proactive on things but to say something, anything is balderdash is easy and requires nothing but having an alternate viewpoint. Big deal - most people have alternate viewpoints. But if that is the case back it up with real evidence to those who can make a difference and change things. Do more than talk to others who can't make a difference or who most likely already agree. Get out there, bring proof and expose it to the wider world. That is what people do who really want to make a change or reveal something or someone as a phony. Talk is very, very cheap - especially on internet forums. LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. So, it's denial. It's for him to work out, isn't it? It's a chat room. I'm chatting. Doug wrecked this place so we talk about him. It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. You know, the audience is mostly grown adults, right? Do I need to tell grown adults what they should, or should not believe? I don't believe I should. Someones got to. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned physicist for instance, and claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. Well, again, he can claim anything he wants. What is his sphere of influence? Rather small, I'd say. So, what is the problem? Who is being coerced to buy into any of it? I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. Okay, the movement claims that pure consciousness, and the yet to be discovered unified field are one, and therefore everyone has access to this field of all possibilities And you find this to be a dangerous concept that is worthy of being censored? And you, who are on record about being concerned with things that are wrong in the world, choose this as a priority. That strikes me as a little odd. But so be it. Jesus I'm tired of explaining the same things to the sametrue believers who decide that living in denial is a good idea. It's easier than thinking is all it is. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. You know, of course, the movement is aging, rapidly. There is not a large number of core participants. Grown adults, in my book, are capable of buying into whatever philosophy or way of life they choose. No one needs me to stand in judgement of what they may choose to believe. And for the great majority of even those core believers, they also, take what they need, or want, and leave the rest. I count many as friends, and they recognize fact from fiction. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. It sounds to me that you have a desire impose your own values on those who you feel are being deluded, which is okay, I guess, except that for someone appears to be concerned with social activism, it's an odd area to focus on. But, maybe it's low hanging fruit, and serves other needs you might have. God almighty, you really do scrape the barrel to try and bolster yourself when someone pints out you are talking crap. Anyway you can get someone else to explain things to you, I'm outta here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic. Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Well, I'm guessing that there are, what, maybe 200 people worldwide who accept as gospel that transcendental consciousness and the unified field* are the same. There are maybe 2000 people worldwide who have considered it as a remote possibility, Same goes for Yagya technology. So, this is what you have chosen as your cause celebre and focus of your efforts to change the world? Ok. Again, let me not judge, but it strikes me as an odd focus. * this assumes the reality of the unified field ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Heh, I just read your reply now Steve. It appears we agree on a lot of the points here. It's great to get all proactive on things but to say something, anything is balderdash is easy and requires nothing but having an alternate viewpoint. Big deal - most people have alternate viewpoints. But if that is the case back it up with real evidence to those who can make a difference and change things. Do more than talk to others who can't make a difference or who most likely already agree. Get out there, bring proof and expose it to the wider world. That is what people do who really want to make a change or reveal something or someone as a phony. Talk is very, very cheap - especially on internet forums. LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic. Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on domination. 2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be inspected. 3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign. Why? Because: Rama and Sita. Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to hell because A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile blackeyes. Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said Fuck your fame.I'm your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and your shit jobs at MUM. He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too. Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh ogi Ved... View on www.freepressjournal.in http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
How do you account for all the temper tantrums Marshy had, especially when he
lost court cases or one of his girlfriends ran off and left him?
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual,
financial and sexual criminal?
Anger is not much good for anything, in my experience.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
So we should all be calm little sheep? Its good for the liver to get that anger
out every now and again.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial
and sexual criminal?
I have no idea whether it is true. What draws my attention is the boiling
rage and fury that sweeps all over Edg as he sprints off on another wild rant.
It's either a good act or Edg is very much in need of some pitta-pacifying tea.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Feeling better now, Edg, after having vomited this up?
Is it not true then? Or should we be burying our heads in the sand like
everyone else in the TMO, it couldn't be imperfect could it?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Be it resolved that Girish is fucking evil.
That's the issue to debate.
I'll take the affirmative position.
My arguments:
1. Spiritual criminal. With zero spiritual credentials, suddenly his
photograph was put on the same wall as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and then next
thing we knew, he was considered as holy as Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
LIKE FUCKING WHY? We are given NOTHING. He simply RIPPED OFF THE MOVEMENT AND
TOOK CHARGE by changing photos. HE DIDN'T EARN IT. He stole it.
And everyone in Fairfield just laid the fuck down on this. Not true believers
believing -- simply fucking wusses and surrender monkeys. I'm looking at you
DOUG.
Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just
to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on
domination.
2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a
decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In
lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal
instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to
explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are
vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public
accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be
inspected.
3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish
raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign.
Why? Because: Rama and Sita.
Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her
having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to
hell because A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a
famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or
convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile blackeyes.
Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said Fuck your fame.I'm
your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and
your shit jobs at MUM.
Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL
--- steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, freakin' light bulb just went off in my head. why you don't adopt the patented font, with the patented (-: (-: (-: and maybe it will make you feel better. whaddya say! (-: --- salyavin808@... wrote : He just said goodbye, what else are you expecting? How's the weather in old Blighty? Let's see, Barry dumped, Shemp left, authfriend left, Llundrub left, off_world left, KennyH left, Sal sunshine left, Willy dumped. Vaj left. I think Xeno and Curtis left. Time for me to leave as well. Mahesh Yogi taught you 'the art of living'. But, you should also know the 'art of leaving'. Nice knowing all, past posters, present posters. I think Barry's last words on the forum is this, Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. Same here. Ditto. --- anartaxius@... wrote : z zz..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : --- steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, freakin' light bulb just went off in my head. why you don't adopt the patented font, with the patented (-: (-: (-: and maybe it will make you feel better. whaddya say! (-: --- salyavin808@... wrote : He just said goodbye, what else are you expecting? How's the weather in old Blighty? Let's see, Barry dumped, Shemp left, authfriend left, Llundrub left, off_world left, KennyH left, Sal sunshine left, Willy dumped. Vaj left. I think Xeno and Curtis left. Time for me to leave as well. Mahesh Yogi taught you 'the art of living'. But, you should also know the 'art of leaving'. Nice knowing all, past posters, present posters. I think Barry's last words on the forum is this, Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. Same here. Ditto. I thought you already had left. Bon Voyage. --- anartaxius@... wrote : z zz..
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : --- steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, freakin' light bulb just went off in my head. why you don't adopt the patented font, with the patented (-: (-: (-: and maybe it will make you feel better. whaddya say! (-: --- salyavin808@... wrote : He just said goodbye, what else are you expecting? How's the weather in old Blighty? Not bad today, nearly hot enough for people to stop complaining about the cold and start complaining about the heat. Let's see, Barry dumped, Shemp left, authfriend left, Llundrub left, off_world left, KennyH left, Sal sunshine left, Willy dumped. Vaj left. I think Xeno and Curtis left. Time for me to leave as well. Mahesh Yogi taught you 'the art of living'. But, you should also know the 'art of leaving'. Nice knowing all, past posters, present posters. Yes, cheers Jason. It's been fun but good things come to an end I think Barry's last words on the forum is this, Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. Same here. Ditto. I nearly quit a few weeks ago when I was writing a post and thought I'd illustrate my point with a quote but I couldn't remember who it was so I googled it and the only result I found was from myself in a post here saying, exactly the same thing. Word for word. Time to go I thought. TTFN --- anartaxius@... wrote : z zz..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it.But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. So, it's denial. It's for him to work out, isn't it? It seems to me we're seeing a different side to Doug. Actually seeing quite a bit less, which I think is also revealing. What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? My sphere of influence is rather small, but I do interact with a number of people each day. And aside from routine matters of business, or grocery shopping, I try to say something, or do something, which I think may spark a new way of thinking about things. I've also discovered that being a good listener helps people process areas of difficulty. Admittedly, these are small accomplishments, if you want to call them that, but that is where I am in this regard. It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. You know, the audience is mostly grown adults, right? Do I need to tell grown adults what they should, or should not believe? I don't believe I should. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned physicist for instance, and claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. Well, again, he can claim anything he wants. What is his sphere of influence? Rather small, I'd say. So, what is the problem? Who is being coerced to buy into any of it? I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. Okay, the movement claims that pure consciousness, and the yet to be discovered unified field are one, and therefore everyone has access to this field of all possibilities And you find this to be a dangerous concept that is worthy of being censored? And you, who are on record about being concerned with things that are wrong in the world, choose this as a priority. That strikes me as a little odd. But so be it. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. You know, of course, the movement is aging, rapidly. There is not a large number of core participants. Grown adults, in my book, are capable of buying into whatever philosophy or way of life they choose. No one needs me to stand in judgement of what they may choose to believe. And for the great majority of even those core believers, they also, take what they need, or want, and leave the rest. I count many as friends, and they recognize fact from fiction. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. It sounds to me that you have a desire impose your own values on those who you feel are being deluded, which is okay, I guess, except that for someone appears to be concerned with social activism, it's an odd area to focus on. But, maybe it's low hanging fruit, and serves other needs you might have. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. He can claim that the theories are true, and are based on unknown or undiscovered laws, but of course it will gain no traction without any proof. So, again, you are focussing your efforts on the several hundred people who accept these ideas at face value? And again, how many wild theories have been proposed, that have turned out to be true, and able to be proven. Quite a few, I would imagine. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Well, I'm still here, and while preparing my breakfast, I cognized what may very well be the world's most risky investment: Greek bond derivatives, purchased on margin. What would FFL do without you, Alex? Good morning and I'll stay away from the Greek investments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : --- steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, freakin' light bulb just went off in my head. why you don't adopt the patented font, with the patented (-: (-: (-: and maybe it will make you feel better. whaddya say! (-: --- salyavin808@... wrote : He just said goodbye, what else are you expecting? How's the weather in old Blighty? Let's see, Barry dumped, Shemp left, authfriend left, Llundrub left, off_world left, KennyH left, Sal sunshine left, Willy dumped. Vaj left. I think Xeno and Curtis left. Time for me to leave as well. Mahesh Yogi taught you 'the art of living'. But, you should also know the 'art of leaving'. Nice knowing all, past posters, present posters. I think Barry's last words on the forum is this, Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. Same here. Ditto. I thought you already had left. Bon Voyage. --- anartaxius@... wrote : z zz..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : It's a chat room. I'm chatting. Doug wrecked this place so we talk about him. ok, fair enough. that's your take about the wrecking part. Someones got to. hey, if that's your bag, go for it. Jesus I'm tired of explaining the same things to the sametrue believers who decide that living in denial is a good idea. It's easier than thinking is all it is. speaking of being tired, I gotta say playing the true believer card on those who disagree with you, would strike me as tired, as we've had decades of that here. God almighty, you really do scrape the barrel to try and bolster yourself when someone pints out you are talking crap. Anyway you can get someone else to explain things to you, I'm outta here. A good decision, I think, under the circumstances. Best of luck to you. Maybe when he has something new to say or can approach any number of subjects with a more open mind he'll be back. Or maybe not. All I know is this place is changing for the better. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you accuse Hagelin of all of his magical thinking, and then you appear to have special insight into Doug's thoughts and feelings. Oh well, that's how it goes at good 'ol FFL! I think it's a good guess about Doug. Cognitive dissonance is real and affects groups that have a strong world saving focus, when it all goes wrong and turns out to be nonsense they just carry on like everything is fine. It's classic True Believerism and I don't think it's funny at all but it is fascinating. I know loads of people who refuse to discuss the movement's many problems that it isn't supposed to have. And you think his dislike of us apostates is reasonable? It always sounded scary to me. And I accuse Hagelin of lying or delusions not magical thinking, though he might do that as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : snip That's why he hates this place and all its apostates because we remind him that he backed a losing horse a long time ago and feels he has to keep riding the thing until the bitter end, any other way of looking at things being placed in front of him just puts him in Jihad mode and he resorts to the language of the fanatic. Or, if you prefer an emotional argument: This sick fuck makes me nauseous just to look at himhis vibe is mean-hearted, cruel, and relentlessly intend on domination. 2. Financial criminal. The Transcendental Meditation Organization has had a decades-long history of crimes. Large amounts of money go unaccounted. In lieu of how Girish TOOK OVER, it is LOGICAL to suspect Girish is a criminal instead of accepting him as an honest person. He shows zero motivation to explain how and why he deserves his present position. The TMO's books are vague, incomplete, and probably simply a pack of lies, and until a public accounting is made, no trust has been earned; the red flags waving must be inspected. 3. Rapist. The news has give us the accounting of 20 persons who say Girish raped a woman. END OF STORY. Girish should resign. Why? Because: Rama and Sita. Rama sent Sita to HELL because the people were falsely whispering about her having fucked Ravana, before she was rescued. FALSELY, but Rama sent her to hell because A KING'S FAME IS HIS ONLY TREASURE. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and a famous student of his, Harold Bloomfield, have also been accused and/or convicted of sexual crimes. Yet the TMO ignores these vile blackeyes. Girish stole the movement, stole the money and said Fuck your fame.I'm your monster guru now.suck it up you toads or lose your field badges and your shit jobs at MUM. He probably dropped a Jai Guru Dev in at the end too. Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Girish Verma raped victim for 15 yrs from 1999 to 2014 http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Charge- sheet filed against Chancellor of Mahesh ogi varsity BHOPAL: The police, on Tuesday, filed charge- sheet against Chancellor of Maharishi Mahesh ogi Ved... View on www.freepressjournal.in http://www.freepressjournal.in/girish-verma-raped-victim-for-15-yrs-from-1999-to-2014/ Preview by Yahoo
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That's pretty damn funny! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Nice pic. Did you walk out and retrieve the ball? I tried but I couldn't work out where it had gone. In the morning it dawned on me. On 07/01/2015 07:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Well, then, aren't we just fortunate that you're around, Michael, so the scientific community isn't fooled by JH. I mean you weren't here for a long time. Do you think you can make up for these lost years? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what
[FairfieldLife] Future of Physics
According to the author, it is possible to turn vast deserts into huge computers. Also, one of the dreams is to create quantum computers that can someday understand quantum physics. But will the unified field as proposed by John Hagelin be accepted as mainstream physics? How Physics Will Change—and Change the World—in 100 Years — NOVA Next | PBS http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ How Physics Will Change—and Change the World—in... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ Nobel laureate Frank Wilczek predicts a century of advances in physics and beyond. View on www.pbs.org http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Michigan is No. 1 in the US?
Who would have guessed this would happen? But California made no. 9 on this list. The Definitive and Final Ranking of All 50 States https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-definitive-and-final-ranking-of-all-50-states-122796477147.html https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-definitive-and-final-ranking-of-all-50-states-122796477147.html The Definitive and Final Ranking of All 50 States https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-definitive-and-final-ranking-of-all-50-states-122796477147.html Ranking all 50 states on inventions, food/drink, somewhat productive famous people, and more. View on www.yahoo.com https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-definitive-and-final-ranking-of-all-50-states-122796477147.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL
Lots of people probably taking the week off and next week in the US. So I wouldn't expect much activity. It happens every year. On 07/01/2015 06:59 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Well, I'm still here, and while preparing my breakfast, I cognized what may very well be the world's most risky investment: Greek bond derivatives, purchased on margin. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : --- steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, freakin' light bulb just went off in my head. why you don't adopt the patented font, with the patented (-: (-: (-: and maybe it will make you feel better. whaddya say! (-: */ /*--- salyavin808@... wrote :*/ /* He just said goodbye, what else are you expecting? How's the weather in old Blighty? Let's see, Barry dumped, Shemp left, authfriend left, Llundrub left, off_world left, KennyH left, Sal sunshine left, Willy dumped. Vaj left. I think Xeno and Curtis left. Time for me to leave as well. Mahesh Yogi taught you 'the art of living'. But, you should also know the 'art of leaving'. Nice knowing all, past posters, present posters. I think Barry's last words on the forum is this, Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. Same here. Ditto. I thought you already had left. Bon Voyage. --- anartaxius@... wrote : z zz..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
I think that's why the call it theoretical physics. Didn't you learn that in your college physics classes? Still haven't seen any evidence that our resident armchair scientists on FFL actually know anything about science. It's just popular to look scientific in the 21st century, I guess. On 07/01/2015 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM *Subjec! t:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other! hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start.nb! sp; Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Now why couldn't I say that? (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I think that's why the call it theoretical physics. Didn't you learn that in your college physics classes? Still haven't seen any evidence that our resident armchair scientists on FFL actually know anything about science. It's just popular to look scientific in the 21st century, I guess. On 07/01/2015 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subjec!t: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other! hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start.nb! sp; Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when
[FairfieldLife] What Next?
Kim Kardashian speaks at the SF Commonwealth Club: http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_28412733/kim-kardashian-delights-san-francisco-audiences Perhaps David Lynch gets her to start TM? Enlightened sex videos?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Future of Physics
One physicist on YouTube said that physics may be nearing its end as a science if the LHC cannot find anymore discoveries aside from the Higgs Boson. But, based on this article, there are many other areas that physics can cover, much of which are not understandable by most people these days. However, what's interesting about Hagelin's theory is that it has personal appeal, particularly meditators in the TM movement. If any of the siddhas could demonstrate he or she can float in the air, then Hagelin's idea should catch the interest of the science community, and the world at large. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : According to the author, it is possible to turn vast deserts into huge computers. Also, one of the dreams is to create quantum computers that can someday understand quantum physics. Far out, but this is interesting: The proposed unification of forces, however, raises important challenges. Our unification theories predict events and particles that have not yet been observed. The missing events are decays of protons. As yet experimenters have not witnessed any, despite heroic efforts. They must, and will, try harder. What he's talking about here is the experiments I've been talking about for ages. The SU(5) theory of the seventies led to a series of experiments to find the proton that must exist if the unified field theory is correct, they bult swimming pool sized detectors, deep underground all over the world to catch the interaction between the suspected proton and the chlorine (I think it was) in the tanks. The way it works is, if you have a prediction of a subatomic event then you will know what the likelihood of detecting that event it. In this case they knew how likely it was and left enough time for statistical errors and they didn't find anything. So they let the experiment run just in case. And run and run and run, until eventually it became obvious that the proton didn't exist and the unification wasn't happening. QED Quite why this guy thinks they should be trying harder when they've already done all they can to find it is beyond me. It looks like the basic idea is so good they can't bear to let it go. The last sentence: Unification theory suggests that in 100 years physicists will be awash in proton decay data and theorizing over its finer points, is particularly odd in respect of the conclusions from the experiment. If the data isn't there they won't be swimming in it, the theory can't suggest otherwise without suggesting a way they were wrong with the experiment. Which is what string theory tried to do by having the decying protons hoovered up by mini dimensions all curled up somewhere. But we know that a lot of string theories are wrong because of how the Higg's boson turned out. Even John Hagelin admitted that. But even if he hadn't I don't see where the idea that it's all consciousness fits in, we are talking about energy left over from the big bang not some mystical super-awareness! So no, I don't think JH's ideas will be accepted by the mainstream. I can dig out references if you like. But will the unified field as proposed by John Hagelin be accepted as mainstream physics? How Physics Will Change—and Change the World—in 100 Years — NOVA Next | PBS http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ How Physics Will Change—and Change the World—in... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ Nobel laureate Frank Wilczek predicts a century of advances in physics and beyond. View on www.pbs.org http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Future of Physics
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : According to the author, it is possible to turn vast deserts into huge computers. Also, one of the dreams is to create quantum computers that can someday understand quantum physics. Far out, but this is interesting: The proposed unification of forces, however, raises important challenges. Our unification theories predict events and particles that have not yet been observed. The missing events are decays of protons. As yet experimenters have not witnessed any, despite heroic efforts. They must, and will, try harder. What he's talking about here is the experiments I've been talking about for ages. The SU(5) theory of the seventies led to a series of experiments to find the proton that must exist if the unified field theory is correct, they bult swimming pool sized detectors, deep underground all over the world to catch the interaction between the suspected proton and the chlorine (I think it was) in the tanks. The way it works is, if you have a prediction of a subatomic event then you will know what the likelihood of detecting that event it. In this case they knew how likely it was and left enough time for statistical errors and they didn't find anything. So they let the experiment run just in case. And run and run and run, until eventually it became obvious that the proton didn't exist and the unification wasn't happening. QED Quite why this guy thinks they should be trying harder when they've already done all they can to find it is beyond me. It looks like the basic idea is so good they can't bear to let it go. The last sentence: Unification theory suggests that in 100 years physicists will be awash in proton decay data and theorizing over its finer points, is particularly odd in respect of the conclusions from the experiment. If the data isn't there they won't be swimming in it, the theory can't suggest otherwise without suggesting a way they were wrong with the experiment. Which is what string theory tried to do by having the decying protons hoovered up by mini dimensions all curled up somewhere. But we know that a lot of string theories are wrong because of how the Higg's boson turned out. Even John Hagelin admitted that. But even if he hadn't I don't see where the idea that it's all consciousness fits in, we are talking about energy left over from the big bang not some mystical super-awareness! So no, I don't think JH's ideas will be accepted by the mainstream. I can dig out references if you like. But will the unified field as proposed by John Hagelin be accepted as mainstream physics? How Physics Will Change—and Change the World—in 100 Years — NOVA Next | PBS http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ How Physics Will Change—and Change the World—in... http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ Nobel laureate Frank Wilczek predicts a century of advances in physics and beyond. View on www.pbs.org http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/physics/in-100-years/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/ http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
Kim is a good candidate for TM, although she appears to have been born as an Orthodox Christian. I'll have to check out her jyotish chart to find out why she's so popular or infamous, depending on your point of view. Lately, many TMers are in the news, particularly Kate Perry who wants to buy a convent in LA. Perhaps, that would be a good place for siddhas to perform the flying sutras. But she appears to be getting the support of Nature based on her current popularity and success. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Kim Kardashian speaks at the SF Commonwealth Club: http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_28412733/kim-kardashian-delights-san-francisco-audiences http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_28412733/kim-kardashian-delights-san-francisco-audiences Perhaps David Lynch gets her to start TM? Enlightened sex videos?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing
the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in
general.
As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for
Oprah?And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them
- but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently.
Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time
before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you
won't have to bad karma.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in general. This woman certainly fell head over heels in love with FF and meditation. She seemed pretty impulsive to me and fairly desperate and unhappy before finding FF. While I am sure some people had a good experience the first time they did TM she seems pretty over the top. It is this kind of person that makes me think she could be a tad unstable. Totally guessing here and I am sure some in FF know her well including maybe some who post here so I am sure they could correct me. As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for Oprah? I don't watch or read Oprah so I have no idea what people are like who work for her. But I do know Oprah likes TM (saw an article posted here at FFL) so she would heartily endorse an employee who also likes it, I would imagine. And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently. Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you won't have to bad karma. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/ http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
[FairfieldLife] Veddy British
Felt quite the Scorpion yesterday, probably because I had smoked kippers on toast for breakfast, spent much of the day with my daughter and on the way home listened to the Kinks. Their hits, Sunny Afternoon and Dead End Street sound rather apropos to the Scorpion Land of today.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jason_green2@... wrote : --- steve.sundur@... wrote : xeno, freakin' light bulb just went off in my head. why you don't adopt the patented font, with the patented (-: (-: (-: and maybe it will make you feel better. whaddya say! (-: --- salyavin808@... wrote : He just said goodbye, what else are you expecting? How's the weather in old Blighty? Not bad today, nearly hot enough for people to stop complaining about the cold and start complaining about the heat. Let's see, Barry dumped, Shemp left, authfriend left, Llundrub left, off_world left, KennyH left, Sal sunshine left, Willy dumped. Vaj left. I think Xeno and Curtis left. Time for me to leave as well. Mahesh Yogi taught you 'the art of living'. But, you should also know the 'art of leaving'. Nice knowing all, past posters, present posters. Yes, cheers Jason. It's been fun but good things come to an end I think Barry's last words on the forum is this, Thanks to many people here for the great writing and the many times you have stood up for yourselves and done the right thing. Good luck working all of this out. Same here. Ditto. I nearly quit a few weeks ago when I was writing a post and thought I'd illustrate my point with a quote but I couldn't remember who it was so I googled it and the only result I found was from myself in a post here saying, exactly the same thing. Word for word. Time to go I thought. TTFN Wish you all the very best Sal. Couldn't resist one more post. Signing off. Over and out. --- anartaxius@... wrote : z zz..
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Nice pic. Did you walk out and retrieve the ball? On 07/01/2015 07:46 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Heis spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. Ifpeople want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Isanyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it.But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start. Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has discovered this or that when your beliefs are so outside of the mainstream they wouldn't be accepted as likely in a Harry Potter movie. I would say the movement goes out of it's way to persuade the faithful that it - and it alone - is in possession of the real facts about life and that the rest of the world has yet to catch up. From day one as a TMer they start spinning the yarn of perfect knowledge from the unified field and all the technologies they have to help you gain the most from life that don't actually work but are all part of the mythos. I would say that's coercion, they do guilt brilliantly too. It's a religion and expanding the coffers at the expense of the flock is what I expect. But the pope doesn't charge $5000 for a prayer. Check out the adverts for the yagya programme starting with Marshy's bullshit lectures. It's con. I care about people I know being conned. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Sorta funny, Sal, don't you agree? First you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And So It Begins...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] They're coming after Jimmy Boy.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Yea-yah, Baba! Another high profile TM'er bites the dust - ahh, but we all know from the TM and MUM pr that regular practice of TM gives rise to stable mental states. Hey listen, Jim Carrey is a king of crazy and always has been. These top level comedians always have a major screw or two loose. No one perfectly sane goes into comedy. Jim Carrey has never been normal. But then I'd never hold that against him or TM. From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] They're coming after Jimmy Boy. Jim Carrey’s Descent into Madness http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/01/jim-carrey-s-descent-into-madness.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : I think that's why the call it theoretical physics. Didn't you learn that in your college physics classes? Still haven't seen any evidence that our resident armchair scientists on FFL actually know anything about science. It's just popular to look scientific in the 21st century, I guess. Science is how we've learned not to kid ourselves - Richard Feynman. On 07/01/2015 10:46 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. Exactly and if he is any kind of a scientist, he knows it is not true and is therefore liar, huckster, fraud and con artist. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : Michael, he is promoting highly speculative theories that cannot be proved, at least at the present time, or probably, the foreseeable future. If you care to frame it in a different context to suit your needs, please do so. But, it is no different than any other speculative theories promoted by respected and non respected scientists. Except he's claiming that they are true, are part of mainstream science and that they explain how prayers work. None of it is remotely true. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? This is in essence saying you don't care who is a con artist, nor who gets conned as long as it isn't you. Interesting moral compass. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 4:58 AM Subjec!t: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Girish Chandra Verma a spiritual, financial and sexual criminal? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Not in a chat room where he insults people that think otherwise. Besides, his belief is that TM will make the world a better place, on the other! hand he's spent a lot of time slagging off the TMO for the way it handles things. That's what we mean by cognitive dissonance, he can't reconcile the fact that TM doesn't work for the TMO with his beliefs about how effective it is so he tries to remove the people who remind him of the dichotomy. I have not been a student of Doug's posting. There was a lot of the same, so I skipped over most of it. But, I think your assessment is a little severe. Yes, I would say he has been able to reconcile more disparate points than most. That works for him. How does reconciling things that shouldn't be happening become something working? Sounds like denial to me. You mean you actually like it nice and bland? It doesn't bother you at all that there are only a few people left, and me only because there's nothing on TV tonight? Go figure. I think things are off to a great start.nb! sp; Hmmm What gets your goat? What makes you want to raze the world to the ground and start it again? Do you ever care about anything enough to try and do something about it? Well, you don't know much about me, which is understandable. And I don't reveal too much. But, I am responsible for the livelihood of about twelve people, and I believe they would have my back under any circumstances, as I would have theirs. Not what I meant The quest for truth clearly doesn't get you going if you are okay with blatant attempts to deprive you of money! Or maybe you should pay a bit more attention... He is spouting a lot of nebulous theories to a very limited audience. If people want to buy into that, what concern is it of yours, or mine? Is anyone being coerced to participate? It's everyone's concern if these Nebulous theories are a load of crap and can be demonstrated to be so and are costing people who don't know any better an awful lot of money. Hiding behind a PHD and claiming to be a world renowned scientist for instance, claiming that science has
Re: [FairfieldLife] They're coming after Jimmy Boy.
Yea-yah, Baba! Another high profile TM'er bites the dust - ahh, but we all
know from the TM and MUM pr that regular practice of TM gives rise to stable
mental states.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] They're coming after Jimmy Boy.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
Oh, yeah, I forgot about them - fuck purusha too.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
So how many Purusha could he(MJ) support?
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
Just think of MJ as FFL's Donald Trump. ;-)
On 07/01/2015 03:46 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ.
I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to
sixty days.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this very
nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well. And
all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious
negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM.
Now here's the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a
spiritual turn of mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many,
many people have contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it
is today. I am very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has
nothing better to do with his time than carp and criticize.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing
the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in
gener! al.
As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for
Oprah? And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for
them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free
apparently.
Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time
before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you
won't have to bad karma.
From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Even aliens are abandoning Earth
It looks ugly and it would be surprising if it could fly on earth's atmosphere. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Why do the UFO pictures appear small, fuzzy and unrecognizable? Those are just the commuter shuttles. This is the alien mothership . . . Can you imagine? God, they look like sucking lice you find on dogs.
[FairfieldLife] Even aliens are abandoning Earth
They've given up on us humans. Two days ago NASA was forced to end a live stream from the International Space Station as THREE UFOs blasted out of Earth's atmosphere. Live video feed is cut by NASA due to a reported “loss of signal.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOopkNqjJk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOopkNqjJk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ. I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to sixty days. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this very nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well. And all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM. Now here's the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a spiritual turn of mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many, many people have contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it is today. I am very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has nothing better to do with his time than carp and criticize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in general. As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for Oprah? And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently. Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you won't have to bad karma. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/ http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
Yep Gina Catena gave a talk there last year, telling about her days in the TM
Movement - I listened to the audio they recorded - quite good.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
For those who don't know, the Commonwealth Club usually has talks by
famous politicians, authors, scientists, industry leaders, economists, etc.
Not usually folks like Kardashian.
On 07/01/2015 01:36 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Kim is a good candidate for TM, although she appears to have been born as
an Orthodox Christian. I'll have to check out her jyotish chart to find out
why she's so popular or infamous, depending on your point of view.
Lately, many TMers are in the news, particularly Kate Perry who wants to buy
a convent in LA. Perhaps, that would be a good place for siddhas to perform
the flying sutras. But she appears to be getting the support of Nature based
on her current popularity and success.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Kim Kardashian speaks at the SF Commonwealth Club:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_28412733/kim-kardashian-delights-san-francisco-audiences
Perhaps David Lynch gets her to start TM? Enlightened sex videos?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
If you were the spiritually aware and practicing person one would THINK a
former MIU faculty member would be, you would not follow in my footsteps by
carping about my post or criticizing me. But typical TM created response there.
I liked Fairfield very much, setting aside the TM'ers - ah, I couldn't resist
that one!
I take exception to her continuing the bullshit over the top blabber about how
fabulous TM is - if point out that even you don't do it anymore or maybe that
was just TMSP you dropped.
Anyhow, the Movement and its enablers are still conning people into buying a
pig in a poke and it stinks. No free passes from me on that issue, I feel the
same as Sal, except I am more concerned with the innocent people who are
listening to this gal and her David Lynch buddies - by the time they figure out
they've been had, too much damage may have occurred and they'll have to join
FFL to help them figure it all out.
I like Fairfield Iowa very much. Fuck TM, fuck MUM and fuck the hucksters that
promote TM.
From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this
very nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well.
And all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious
negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM. Now here's
the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a spiritual turn of
mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many, many people have
contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it is today. I am
very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has nothing better
to do with his time than carp and criticize.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing
the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in
general.
As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for
Oprah?And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them
- but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently.
Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time
before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you
won't have to bad karma.
From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
I bet Hagelin would consent to making a sex tape with her to amp up his
profile.
From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:52 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
Kimmy learning to meditate would give a whole new meaning to rounding.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Self/Less
Re Who says dying young is necessarily the result of bad karma? That would be assuming death was a punishment or a bad thing: Good point. Indeed the assumptions we make about good vs bad are loaded with our prejudices. I like the Tibetan Buddhist (probably Hindu also) view that, yes, you can accumulate virtue and end up living as a god or goddess in some postmortem paradise but once your karma has been used up you're right back where you started*. The goal is to tire of the game and jump off the Wheel of Karma - good or bad - and embrace extinction-cum-Nirvana. *right back where you started ie, back to square one. That expression originated with the game Snakes and Ladders (Chutes and Ladders in US?). That Indian game (Leela) was intended to teach the young the virtues to follow and the vices to avoid. The final square would be labelled Moksha. There was an old (Indian) board I saw once that had a paradise square near the top of the layout. Once there the player was taken out of the game! See the subtlety of it? If someone finds themselves in a paradisiacal place they mistake it for final liberation and settle down there not realising there are yet further levels to come. To find such religious psychological insight into the perils of the spiritual life in a board game! And what did we come up with? Monopoly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
and on the eighth day, God created the show history link. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Kimmy learning to meditate would give a whole new meaning to rounding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Self/Less
Re And what did we come up with? Monopoly: A Google reveals: The board game that preceded Monopoly and formed the basis for it was called The Landlord's Game. It was originally conceived by American actress Lizzie Magie in 1906. She set forth a game in which people fought monopolies and cooperated to share the wealth. So take a note board-game theorists: greed trumps cooperation for kicks! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Who says dying young is necessarily the result of bad karma? That would be assuming death was a punishment or a bad thing: Good point. Indeed the assumptions we make about good vs bad are loaded with our prejudices. I like the Tibetan Buddhist (probably Hindu also) view that, yes, you can accumulate virtue and end up living as a god or goddess in some postmortem paradise but once your karma has been used up you're right back where you started*. The goal is to tire of the game and jump off the Wheel of Karma - good or bad - and embrace extinction-cum-Nirvana. *right back where you started ie, back to square one. That expression originated with the game Snakes and Ladders (Chutes and Ladders in US?). That Indian game (Leela) was intended to teach the young the virtues to follow and the vices to avoid. The final square would be labelled Moksha. There was an old (Indian) board I saw once that had a paradise square near the top of the layout. Once there the player was taken out of the game! See the subtlety of it? If someone finds themselves in a paradisiacal place they mistake it for final liberation and settle down there not realising there are yet further levels to come. To find such religious psychological insight into the perils of the spiritual life in a board game! And what did we come up with? Monopoly.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
So how many Purusha could he(MJ) support?
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
Just think of MJ as FFL's Donald Trump. ;-)
On 07/01/2015 03:46 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ.
I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to
sixty days.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this very
nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well. And
all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious
negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM.
Now here's the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a
spiritual turn of mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many,
many people have contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it
is today. I am very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has
nothing better to do with his time than carp and criticize.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing
the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in
gener! al.
As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for
Oprah? And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for
them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free
apparently.
Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time
before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you
won't have to bad karma.
From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this very nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well. And all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM. Now here's the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a spiritual turn of mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many, many people have contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it is today. I am very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has nothing better to do with his time than carp and criticize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in general. As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for Oprah? And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently. Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you won't have to bad karma. From: j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/ http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
Kimmy learning to meditate would give a whole new meaning to rounding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
A Kardashian at the SF Commonwealth Club is proof that these are the End Times.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Even aliens are abandoning Earth
Why do the UFO pictures appear small, fuzzy and unrecognizable? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : They've given up on us humans. Two days ago NASA was forced to end a live stream from the International Space Station as THREE UFOs blasted out of Earth's atmosphere. Live video feed is cut by NASA due to a reported “loss of signal.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOopkNqjJk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOopkNqjJk
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
Just think of MJ as FFL's Donald Trump. ;-) On 07/01/2015 03:46 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ. I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to sixty days. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this very nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well. And all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM. Now here's the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a spiritual turn of mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many, many people have contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it is today. I am very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has nothing better to do with his time than carp and criticize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in gener! al. As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for Oprah? And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently. Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you won't have to bad karma. *From:* j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
For those who don't know, the Commonwealth Club usually has talks by famous politicians, authors, scientists, industry leaders, economists, etc. Not usually folks like Kardashian. On 07/01/2015 01:36 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Kim is a good candidate for TM, although she appears to have been born as an Orthodox Christian. I'll have to check out her jyotish chart to find out why she's so popular or infamous, depending on your point of view. Lately, many TMers are in the news, particularly Kate Perry who wants to buy a convent in LA. Perhaps, that would be a good place for siddhas to perform the flying sutras. But she appears to be getting the support of Nature based on her current popularity and success. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Kim Kardashian speaks at the SF Commonwealth Club: http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_28412733/kim-kardashian-delights-san-francisco-audiences Perhaps David Lynch gets her to start TM? Enlightened sex videos?
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
If you mean an idiot who loves attention, I guess youre right. Donald Trump: Obsessed with himself. Michael Jackson: Obsessed with anything related to the TMO. Playing the reaction card. Just think of MJ as FFL's Donald Trump. ;-) On 07/01/2015 03:46 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hide message history As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ. I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to sixty days.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What Next?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : If you mean an idiot who loves attention, I guess youre right. Donald Trump: Obsessed with himself. Michael Jackson: Obsessed with anything related to the TMO. Playing the reaction card. I'll bet your hair is an improvement over his, at least - even if you don't have any. Just think of MJ as FFL's Donald Trump. ;-) On 07/01/2015 03:46 PM, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Hide message history As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ. I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to sixty days.
[FairfieldLife] Re: And So It Begins...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Robot kills worker at Volkswagen plant in Germany http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/robot-kills-worker-at-volkswagen-plant-in-germany-1.2449237 http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/robot-kills-worker-at-volkswagen-plant-in-germany-1.2449237 Robot kills worker at Volkswagen plant in Germany http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/robot-kills-worker-at-volkswagen-plant-in-germany-1.2449237 A robot has killed a contractor at one of Volkswagen's production plants in Germany, the automaker said Wednesday. View on www.ctvnews.ca http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/robot-kills-worker-at-volkswagen-plant-in-germany-1.2449237 Preview by Yahoo The Three Laws of Robotics (often shortened to The Three Laws or Three Laws, also known as Asimov's Laws) are a set of rules devised by the science fiction author https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction_author Isaac Asimov https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov. The rules were introduced in his 1942 short story Runaround https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaround_(story), although they had been foreshadowed in a few earlier stories. The Three Laws, quoted as being from the Handbook of Robotics, 56th Edition, 2058 A.D., are: A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.Three Laws of Robotics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics#cite_note-IROBOT-1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics#cite_note-IROBOT-1 Three Laws of Robotics - Wikipedia, the free encycl... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics#cite_note-IROBOT-1 The Three Laws of Robotics (often shortened to The Three Laws or Three Laws, also known as Asimov's Laws) are a set of rules devised by the science fic... View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics#cite_note-IROBOT-1 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Veddy British
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Felt quite the Scorpion yesterday, probably because I had smoked kippers on toast for breakfast, spent much of the day with my daughter and on the way home listened to the Kinks. Their hits, Sunny Afternoon and Dead End Street sound rather apropos to the Scorpion Land of today. Yeah, not half, but as long as I can gaze on Waterloo sunset I am in paradise I'll be there at the weekend actually, after a hard weeks work made harder by the heat that we aren't used to and always comes as a shock no matter how much we crave it during the winter. It's good to spend a day strolling on the south bank of the Thames, taking photo's, visiting galleries and stopping at cafes or eating ice cream in the shade of a tree. Making hay while the sun shines..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves
As many as he can fit on a head of a pin. On 07/01/2015 04:45 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: So how many Purusha could he(MJ) support? *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 6:16 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves Just think of MJ as FFL's Donald Trump. ;-) On 07/01/2015 03:46 PM, steve.sun...@yahoo.com mailto:steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: As RW would say. Somebody, or something did a number on MJ. I think he just loaded himself with enough outrage for the next thirty to sixty days. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : This lady moved to Fairfield and loves it (as do others) and writes this very nice article and creates a blog for others to express themselves as well. And all Michael Jackson can do is come out with his usual stream of bilious negativity, utterly determined to see the worst in everything TM. Now here's the truth: if you like small towns in the Midwest, and have a spiritual turn of mind, it's hard to beat Fairfield as a place to live. Many, many people have contributed much effort over decades to make it the place it is today. I am very happy to be here, and I am sorry that Michael Jackson has nothing better to do with his time than carp and criticize. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : It is stuff like this that makes me want to dedicate all my time to exposing the lies, fallacies and general absurdity of the TM Movement to the world in gener! al. As to the blog itself, what would one expect from someone who works for Oprah? And in looking at the About Us I see they want people to write for them - but they make no mention of payment, just write for us, for free apparently. Looking further I see they are touting jyotish too - just a matter of time before they offer the grand opportunity to have your house redesigned so's you won't have to bad karma. *From:* j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:j_alexander_stanley@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2015 5:33 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Fairfield, Iowa: A Cast of 10,000, As Themselves http://www.enlightenmentissexy.com/fairfield-iowa-a-cast-of-1-as-themselves/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Even aliens are abandoning Earth
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Why do the UFO pictures appear small, fuzzy and unrecognizable? Those are just the commuter shuttles. This is the alien mothership . . .
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 02-Jul-15 00:15:11 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Self/Less
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Who says dying young is necessarily the result of bad karma? That would be assuming death was a punishment or a bad thing: Good point. Indeed the assumptions we make about good vs bad are loaded with our prejudices. I like the Tibetan Buddhist (probably Hindu also) view that, yes, you can accumulate virtue and end up living as a god or goddess in some postmortem paradise but once your karma has been used up you're right back where you started*. The goal is to tire of the game and jump off the Wheel of Karma - good or bad - and embrace extinction-cum-Nirvana. *right back where you started ie, back to square one. That expression originated with the game Snakes and Ladders (Chutes and Ladders in US?). That Indian game (Leela) was intended to teach the young the virtues to follow and the vices to avoid. The final square would be labelled Moksha. There was an old (Indian) board I saw once that had a paradise square near the top of the layout. Once there the player was taken out of the game! See the subtlety of it? If someone finds themselves in a paradisiacal place they mistake it for final liberation and settle down there not realising there are yet further levels to come. To find such religious psychological insight into the perils of the spiritual life in a board game! And what did we come up with? Monopoly. Ha, ha. Monopoly one of my personal childhood favorites. Accumulating all that wealth just so you can drive your fellow game player into bankruptcy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Even aliens are abandoning Earth
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Why do the UFO pictures appear small, fuzzy and unrecognizable? Those are just the commuter shuttles. This is the alien mothership . . . Can you imagine? God, they look like sucking lice you find on dogs.
[FairfieldLife] They're coming after Jimmy Boy.
Jim Carrey’s Descent into Madness http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/01/jim-carrey-s-descent-into-madness.html
[FairfieldLife] And So It Begins...
http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/robot-kills-worker-at-volkswagen-plant-in-germany-1.2449237 http://www.ctvnews.ca/sci-tech/robot-kills-worker-at-volkswagen-plant-in-germany-1.2449237
[FairfieldLife] Re: They're coming after Jimmy Boy.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Jim Carrey’s Descent into Madness http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/01/jim-carrey-s-descent-into-madness.html http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/01/jim-carrey-s-descent-into-madness.html Jim Carrey’s Descent into Madness http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/01/jim-carrey-s-descent-into-madness.html From that Emma Stone video to his imaginary deity ‘Baba’ to his anti-vaxxer proselytizing, the ‘90s comedy legend’s bizarre behavior has reached a fever pi... View on www.thedailybeast.com http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/01/jim-carrey-s-descent-into-madness.html Preview by Yahoo The funniest quote in there was, Making angsty art doesn’t make you crazy, but complimenting John Mayer on anything other than a clean STD test is a clear sign of insanity.
[FairfieldLife] Mystery sea creature washes ashore
Mystery sea creature washes ashore in eastern Russia | GrindTV.com http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/mystery-sea-creature-washes-ashore-in-eastern-russia/#lVsjEwgScq8FYBv2.97 http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/mystery-sea-creature-washes-ashore-in-eastern-russia/#lVsjEwgScq8FYBv2.97 Mystery sea creature washes ashore in eastern Russia | G... http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/mystery-sea-creature-washes-ashore-in-eastern-russia/#lVsjEwgScq8FYBv2.97 Mystery sea creature was said to look like a dinosaur but with a bird's beak and fur on its tail. But one expert appears to have revealed its true identity. View on www.grindtv.com http://www.grindtv.com/wildlife/mystery-sea-creature-washes-ashore-in-eastern-russia/#lVsjEwgScq8FYBv2.97 Preview by Yahoo
