[FairfieldLife] Guru-puurNimaa and weather in Spain?

2015-07-18 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Shall Guru-puurNimaa (7/23 -) Yogic Flyers cool down the weather in Spain?
 

 Madrid, Spain - Five-day forecast - Local weather - Finnish Meteorological 
Institute http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/spain/madrid

 
 
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Institute http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/spain/madrid Madrid, Spain, 
Five-day forecast
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Sacred Lotus

2015-07-18 Thread Duveyoung
http://i.imgur.com/ysaLqAf.gif http://i.imgur.com/ysaLqAf.gif

Does Jyotish know about this pattern?  
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

2015-07-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
P.S.: This may be unpleasant and embarrassing for you, Curtis, but in the 
interests of adjusting your perspective in the direction of reality, you might 
want to keep an eye on Barry's FFL2 posts yourself, noting how many of them 
have been about moi. (Count the lies in his current post about our conversation 
and about my purportedly stalking him from forum to forum.) 

 Then have a look here on FFL for how many posts I've made about Barry's FFL2 
posts.
 

 Doesn't sound appealing, I know, but it'll do you good.
 






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away 
from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake 
(lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and 
that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post. 

 This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're losing an 
argument you should never have started in the first place. And then it 
degenerates into meaningless insults.
 

 That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and 
flamming.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning

2015-07-18 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem as the 
bullying itself.

OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! I MUST 
LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN! 

Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school playground. 
It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield power because people give it 
to them.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

 There is some lot of truth to this article.  Rick has certainly seen this on 
his FFL group at yahoo.  -JaiGuruYou
The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression, but the founders 
just did not understand how effective their creation would be for the 
coordination and amplification of harassing behavior. Or that the users who 
were the biggest bullies would be rewarded with attention for their behavior. 
Or that young people would come to see this bullying as the norm — as something 
to emulate in an effort to one-up each other. As the Electronic Frontier 
Foundation 
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment, which 
was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties, concluded this year: “The 
sad irony is that online harassers misuse the fundamental strength of the 
Internet as a powerful communication medium to magnify and co-ordinate their 
actions and effectively silence and intimidate others.”
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the 
Internet 

 Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the 
Internet 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

 
 
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html
 
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 Sites like Reddit can’t rely on better rules to eliminate harassment.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, warming would have been a direct benefit, not only for themselves but in 
incubation and nurturing very young.

  From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

Survival of the fittest?
This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). 
But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. 
Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching 
insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early 
on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced 
cuteness as an explanation?
If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would have 
been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of quarry 
and a precursor to actual flight. 

  From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

Survival of the fittest?
This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). 
But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. 
Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and 
fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may 
have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very 
colorful.
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[FairfieldLife] When do you go?

2015-07-18 Thread salyavin808
OK, it turns out Stephen Hawking was wrong and time travel is actually 
possible. The first machines are commercially available very soon but where, or 
rather when, do you go?
 

 Myself I'd see The Stranglers play live in some grotty South London pub circa 
'76. That's just the starting point obviously, I'd also go see The Doors in '67 
somewhere in LA. Might bump into the two Barry,s, I could freak them out by 
predicting their future. After a stop in Topanga valley to say hi to Spirit my 
fave 60's band who lived in a farmhouse there.
 

 After that, not much would interest me until we get back as far as Roman 
Britain. The contrast between their organisation with good roads and smart 
architecture in neat towns and the iron age hill forts and tribesfolk of the 
highlands would make for some great photo's I think.
 

 I'd have to meet Jesus I suppose, if only to see if he was real. Maybe he 
could cure my eczema? Wouldn't bother with any other religious people though, 
if you've met one Indian faker you've met them all.
 

 Greece and Rome are essential stop off points, in fact I'd stop and see all 
the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World they must have been superb in their 
prime. I've seen most of them as they are now but we have a funny thing in the 
West of leaving the original building to fall apart. In the Far East they do 
the opposite and rebuild them every now and again to keep them pristine. We say 
they aren't the same thing but they just as rightly say they are exactly the 
same as they always were and we should take more care of our stuff.
 

 Babylon must have been rather impressive in it's heyday, all that blue glazed 
marble with lions and dragons all round it. Mesopotamia as a whole was rather 
impressive, cradle of civilisation and all that. Just think, these people were 
the first to build cities, what a lot of things to overcome just to break our 
natural desire to live in small groups, must have been worth it for them.
 

 After that I'd sit on a hill in Sinai and watch the first humans cross the end 
of the great rift valley and start the trek out of Africa. The only bit of 
advice I'd give them is to leave the oil in the ground, it isn't worth the 
hassle.
 

 And then it would be off to the Mesozoic to check out some major prehistoric 
fauna, dinosaurs, pterosaurs, pelycosaurs. I'd be in heaven. 
 

 Would I visit the future, nah. It'll just be the same old thing with faster 
cars and smellier air. At least until humanity dies out, might be worth a look 
at what evolves to fill the gap.
 

 What did I miss?


[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

2015-07-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away 
from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake 
(lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and 
that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post. 

 This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're losing an 
argument you should never have started in the first place. And then it 
degenerates into meaningless insults.
 

 That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and 
flamming.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
snip
 

 Doug (not Buck) said he hadn't heard Maharishi say anything about Subud. 
(Barry made fun of him for that, but then t3rinity chimed in that he hadn't 
heard anything either. Another Oooopsie! for Barry.)

As I said, what Doug wrote seems to me more like a call for more information, 
given that Wikipedia didn't say anything about its involving spirit possession.

Me3: It was on TTC. I forget if Buck was made a teacher. Buck and I also heard 
tapes of him talking about this on our rounding courses as MIU students.
 

 So you say. I'll leave that claim for Doug to deal with if he's so inclined.

Me4: We took the same rounding courses with the same tapes. So yes, that is 
what I am saying.

Judy:

 Barry is the primary source of all the upheaval relating to FFL; he's the main 
reason for the split-off to The Peak, and for Rick deciding moderation of FFL 
was necessary. That's a heavy set of consequences for which Barry is very 
largely responsible, and he knows it (though of course he'd never admit it). 
He's having a really tough time dealing with it. But one thing making it easier 
is that he can now lie freely about FFL, its moderator, and its TM supporters. 
It seems to me that's a fact of potential interest to FFLers.

Me2: I have people whose posts I don't read so I don't get this power he holds 
on you.
 
Judy:

 What on earth does your DNR list have to do with anything?

ME3: Because it shows how an adult would handle a situation of not liking how 
someone posts instead of going to read him when he posts on another site. You 
are powerless to avoid him like a moth to the flame.
 

 Still makes no sense to me, sorry.

Me4: Nor to me. Never understood your behavior amidst your faux protest routine.

Me 2:All this drama about having to create a new group because of him seems 
bogus to me. If you don't like someone, don't read them. If you decide to read 
them, then enjoy the ride you are creating by doing so.
 

 Judy2: Oh, this is just prissy high-horse rubbish, Curtis. Go back to Feste's 
cocktail party analogy. FFL is like a very long-running cocktail party. When 
it's dominated by a person who gets his jollies from sadistically attacking 
people, it's not that easy to ignore. You yourself agreed with me that the 
whole button-pushing bit is basically a crock. For that matter, you've often 
become quite wroth when you've been attacked.

Me3: When I am I either show where I disagree, mock their attack or just skip 
it as I ended up doing with our most famous R. You act as if there is only one 
choice.
 

 Well, no, I don't, actually. I've done all three with Barry as well, as you 
know.
 

 Me2:I enjoy our conversations even though we don't agree on much and I often 
feel misrepresented by you. I don't really get why you can't see that Barry 
provides you with your favorite writing prompts here no matter where he is 
posting.
 

 Judy2: Barry does not provide me with my favorite writing prompts (what a 
pretentious phrase, writing prompts). 

Me3: It comes from schools. Those third grade teachers are so pretentious 
aren't they? 
 

 I'm not talking about third grade teachers. I'm talking about Curtis using the 
phrase on FFL.

Me4: Wow you really had to reach to create that insult out of nothing. Yes I 
used a term common in schools about things that prompt us to write. And as far 
as your writing history here goes, you are most prompted to write by anything 
that Barry says on this or any other site.

J:
I'd much rather write about other things (and did, when there was a pause in 
Barry's jihad against me). You don't provide them either, as it happens. It's a 
big bore to have to untangle your flim-flam. I vastly prefer discussions that 
are straightforward and conducted with integrity.

Me3: This was worth the whole post. You do know that some of us are aware of 
your history of writing here right? If you tell me it has bored you or that you 
would rather write about other things, you are proving my point. You are 
powerless. And if you have not enjoyed our many long conversations as I have, 
you are quite pathetic since you engaged in them for so 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread Duveyoung
Just unfriended Rick from my Facebook friends.  I cannot believe his COWARDICE 
in this matter.  It is simply unconscionable for him to give power over all the 
content of FFL to an outrageous person.

If Doug comes in and starts deleting stuff from the past, I will sue.  I have 
the money.  I will sue.

I don't care if I lose, I just care that  Doug and Rick will have to eventually 
allow me to depose them in front of a court reporter. 

 Yes, I am more angry at Rick than at any other fucker that's ever posted here. 
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the 
production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as 
crazy as any bliss ninny ever.

I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us.  YOU OWE US.

 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning

2015-07-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

On 07/18/2015 11:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

Not to worry.  The way things are going one of these mornings you'll 
wake up, go turn on your computer and find you can't log onto FFL.  In 
fact you can't log onto anything.  Then there is a knock on your door 
and it's your neighbor you haven't seen in months asking you if your 
Internet is down too. Turns out talking around the neighborhood it's 
down for everyone.  The cyberwar has gone nuclear.


Far fetched?  Well, here in the Bay Area the FBI is trying to find who 
is cutting fiber cable lines sometimes knocking out whole 
communities.  The battlefield between nations is now the Internet 
which grew unexpectedly a little too fast to be pro-active about it.


But then any outsider logging into FFL would probably think they'd 
stumbled into some teen chat room.  Where are the adults?


You're too hard on yourself dude.


I seem to recall back in the day we said this place was inhabited by 
Smurfs. :-D





On 07/18/2015 05:27 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:




Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem
as the bullying itself.

OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES
BEFORE! I MUST LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN!

Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school
playground. It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield
power because people give it to them.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@...
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :

There is some lot of truth to this article.  Rick has certainly
seen this on his FFL group at yahoo.  -JaiGuruYou
The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression,
but the founders just did not understand how effective their
creation would be for the coordination and amplification of
harassing behavior. Or that the users who were the biggest
bullies would be rewarded with attention for their behavior. Or
that young people would come to see this bullying as the norm —
as something to emulate in an effort to one-up each other. As the
Electronic Frontier Foundation
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment,
which was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties,
concluded this year: “The sad irony is that online harassers
misuse the fundamental strength of the Internet as a powerful
communication medium to magnify and co-ordinate their actions and
effectively silence and intimidate others.”


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@...
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :


  Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle
  for the Internet


Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle
for the Internet

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html




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Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning t...

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Sites like Reddit can’t rely on better rules to eliminate harassment.

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Duveyoung
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 1:34 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

 

  

FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the 
production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as 
crazy as any bliss ninny ever.

I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us.  YOU OWE US.

You want to be the moderator Edg? I have 1300 posts in my FFL folder, dating 
back 3 weeks, and I haven’t read any of them. It makes no sense for me to be 
moderator. I have moved on to other things. Does anybody here have the time, 
patience, and wisdom to do it fairly, without anger, without taking sides, 
without threatening law suits, etc.? 



 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread feste37
Calm down, Edg. Please. It's only FFL, an Internet group in which people 
exchange views on various topics. It doesn't matter that much, and Rick doesn't 
owe us anything. And starting a post by using one of your favorite expressions, 
followed by the person's name, is hardly likely to encourage him to communicate 
with you. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Just unfriended Rick from my Facebook friends.  I cannot believe his COWARDICE 
in this matter.  It is simply unconscionable for him to give power over all the 
content of FFL to an outrageous person.

If Doug comes in and starts deleting stuff from the past, I will sue.  I have 
the money.  I will sue.

I don't care if I lose, I just care that  Doug and Rick will have to eventually 
allow me to depose them in front of a court reporter. 

 Yes, I am more angry at Rick than at any other fucker that's ever posted here. 
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the 
production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as 
crazy as any bliss ninny ever.

I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us.  YOU OWE US.

 







[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Satyam bruyat priyam bruyat. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the 
production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as 
crazy as any bliss ninny ever.

I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us.  YOU OWE US.

 




[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

2015-07-18 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :
 

 (snip)
 
Me: I'll just take you at your word. You see Barry enjoys what he is doing and 
doesn't complain that he would be writing all sorts of other wonderful stuff if 
only you would stop posting about him.

 

 (snip)
 

 Right. Neither do I make that complaint about him.
 

 You've forgotten, those are words you put in my mouth.
 

 That's a particularly egregious whopper even for you.
 

 







[FairfieldLife] Overwhelmed by the tech obsessed world?

2015-07-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

*Overwhelmed by a tech-obsessed world? Try unplugging*

http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28502224/overwhelmed-by-tech-obsessed-world-try-unplugging

/Apple, Yahoo!, VWware and a number of other Silicon Valley companies 
also encourage employees to meditate during the day.


/


[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

2015-07-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 P.S.: This may be unpleasant and embarrassing for you, Curtis, but in the 
interests of adjusting your perspective in the direction of reality, you might 
want to keep an eye on Barry's FFL2 posts yourself, noting how many of them 
have been about moi. (Count the lies in his current post about our conversation 
and about my purportedly stalking him from forum to forum.) 

 Then have a look here on FFL for how many posts I've made about Barry's FFL2 
posts.
 

 Doesn't sound appealing, I know, but it'll do you good.

Me: I'll just take you at your word. You see Barry enjoys what he is doing and 
doesn't complain that he would be writing all sorts of other wonderful stuff if 
only you would stop posting about him. I haven't ever claimed that Barry 
doesn't post a lot about you, he does. He doesn't pretend it is more than it is 
or that he doesn't enjoy it.

Same for me. You are, by the numbers my favorite person to communicate with. I 
am not on a holy jihad of correcting your errors, (although many of my posts 
involve that) I am having fun typing here and you are usually game for an 
exchange. It gives me a prompt for writing (I know how you feel about this) in 
a specific direction and you are usually good for a round or two, so it works 
for me. You two mostly write past each other which is not as appealing for me. 
I was never a big fan of reading your exchanges and don't plan to start now. It 
is a choice, at least for me.



 






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :

 Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away 
from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake 
(lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and 
that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post. 

 This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're losing an 
argument you should never have started in the first place. And then it 
degenerates into meaningless insults.
 

 That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and 
flamming.
 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning

2015-07-18 Thread salyavin808

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :

 Not to worry.  The way things are going one of these mornings you'll wake up, 
go turn on your computer and find you can't log onto FFL.  In fact you can't 
log onto anything.  Then there is a knock on your door and it's your neighbor 
you haven't seen in months asking you if your Internet is down too. Turns out 
talking around the neighborhood it's down for everyone.  The cyberwar has gone 
nuclear.
 
 Far fetched?  Well, here in the Bay Area the FBI is trying to find who is 
cutting fiber cable lines sometimes knocking out whole communities.  The 
battlefield between nations is now the Internet which grew unexpectedly a 
little too fast to be pro-active about it.
 
 But then any outsider logging into FFL would probably think they'd stumbled 
into some teen chat room.  Where are the adults?
 

 You're too hard on yourself dude.
 
 
 On 07/18/2015 05:27 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   

 Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem as the 
bullying itself.
 
 OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! I MUST 
LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN! 
 
 Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school playground. 
It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield power because people give it 
to them.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 There is some lot of truth to this article.  Rick has certainly seen this on 
his FFL group at yahoo.  -JaiGuruYou
 The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression, but the 
founders just did not understand how effective their creation would be for the 
coordination and amplification of harassing behavior. Or that the users who 
were the biggest bullies would be rewarded with attention for their behavior. 
Or that young people would come to see this bullying as the norm — as something 
to emulate in an effort to one-up each other. As the Electronic Frontier 
Foundation, which was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties, 
concluded this year: “The sad irony is that online harassers misuse the 
fundamental strength of the Internet as a powerful communication medium to 
magnify and co-ordinate their actions and effectively silence and intimidate 
others.”
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :
 
 Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the 
Internet 

 Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet

 
 
 
 
 Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning t... Sites like Reddit 
can’t rely on better rules to eliminate harassment.


 
 View on www.washingtonpos... 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 
 





 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning

2015-07-18 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Not to worry.  The way things are going one of these mornings you'll 
wake up, go turn on your computer and find you can't log onto FFL.  In 
fact you can't log onto anything.  Then there is a knock on your door 
and it's your neighbor you haven't seen in months asking you if your 
Internet is down too. Turns out talking around the neighborhood it's 
down for everyone.  The cyberwar has gone nuclear.


Far fetched?  Well, here in the Bay Area the FBI is trying to find who 
is cutting fiber cable lines sometimes knocking out whole communities.  
The battlefield between nations is now the Internet which grew 
unexpectedly a little too fast to be pro-active about it.


But then any outsider logging into FFL would probably think they'd 
stumbled into some teen chat room.  Where are the adults?


On 07/18/2015 05:27 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem as 
the bullying itself.


OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! 
I MUST LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN!


Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school 
playground. It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield power 
because people give it to them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote :

There is some lot of truth to this article.  Rick has certainly seen 
this on his FFL group at yahoo.  -JaiGuruYou
The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression, but the 
founders just did not understand how effective their creation would be 
for the coordination and amplification of harassing behavior. Or that 
the users who were the biggest bullies would be rewarded with 
attention for their behavior. Or that young people would come to see 
this bullying as the norm — as something to emulate in an effort to 
one-up each other. As the Electronic Frontier Foundation 
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment, 
which was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties, concluded 
this year: “The sad irony is that online harassers misuse the 
fundamental strength of the Internet as a powerful communication 
medium to magnify and co-ordinate their actions and effectively 
silence and intimidate others.”



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com 
wrote :



  Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for
  the Internet


Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the 
Internet 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html





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[FairfieldLife] Unplugging: Overwhelmed by the tech obsessed world?

2015-07-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good cultural observation, Meditation as 'unplugged' time to re-charge.. 
Marwaha said. It makes sense to have a nondigital time. But it's a personal 
choice. You have to start with yourself.   -JaiGuruYou!
  SAP has started offering twice-weekly meditation sessions through its 
Mindfulness At Work program, founded by instructor Peter Bostelmann. The 
company has quiet rooms in its Bay Area campuses ---In 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote :

 Overwhelmed by a tech-obsessed world? Try unplugging
 
 
http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28502224/overwhelmed-by-tech-obsessed-world-try-unplugging
 
http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28502224/overwhelmed-by-tech-obsessed-world-try-unplugging
 
 Apple, Yahoo!, VWware and a number of other Silicon Valley companies also 
encourage employees to meditate during the day.
 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I've trained raptors( hawks and falcons) for years.  If you've ever 
noticed a road runner, they chase on foot and will glide over ruff terrain, 
such as thorny brush or cactus, which would slow down their quarry, giving them 
an advantage.  I've also watched a family of Caracaras hunting on foot in the 
field, chasing mice, using such a technique.

  From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would have 
been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of quarry 
and a precursor to actual flight. 

You're the man who owns and raises raptors, aren't you? I think you're 
observations should, if that is true, be most likely the closest to the truth 
on this strange and beautiful creature.
  From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

Survival of the fittest?
This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). 
But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. 
Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and 
fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may 
have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very 
colorful.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers

2015-07-18 Thread curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away 
from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake 
(lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and 
that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post.

Me: It remains insignificant and you had missed the point.

Judy: This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're 
losing an argument you should never have started in the first place. And then 
it degenerates into meaningless insults.

Me: I never lost any argument about Barry's big mistake. He got that 
insignificant detail wrong. Your pattern is to miss the forest for the trees 
but be too stubborn to take any feedback. It is one of your odd charms that 
never fails to amaze me. I can never guess which little fact you will fixate on 
to derail the conversation from what I consider the main point. In this case it 
was obviously that Buck was giving some positive spin to Subud which for an ex 
teacher is comical. It is like having someone post that they like to say their 
mantra to a Reggae rhythm while posing as a TM hard liner. It was funny. 
Whether or not Buck introduced the topic before he expressed his opinions on it 
wasn't Barry's point or the subject of my amusement about it. You were in your 
own rabbit hole as usual and I am left wide eyed at how you did it again.


 Judy

 That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and 
flamming.

Me: You are saying that so I know what you are referring to when you were 
complaining about discussions degenerating into meaningless insults right? 

Are you even aware of how silly you sound with so little self awareness about 
your own writing?

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote :

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote :
 
snip
 

 Doug (not Buck) said he hadn't heard Maharishi say anything about Subud. 
(Barry made fun of him for that, but then t3rinity chimed in that he hadn't 
heard anything either. Another Oooopsie! for Barry.)

As I said, what Doug wrote seems to me more like a call for more information, 
given that Wikipedia didn't say anything about its involving spirit possession.

Me3: It was on TTC. I forget if Buck was made a teacher. Buck and I also heard 
tapes of him talking about this on our rounding courses as MIU students.
 

 So you say. I'll leave that claim for Doug to deal with if he's so inclined.

Me4: We took the same rounding courses with the same tapes. So yes, that is 
what I am saying.

Judy:

 Barry is the primary source of all the upheaval relating to FFL; he's the main 
reason for the split-off to The Peak, and for Rick deciding moderation of FFL 
was necessary. That's a heavy set of consequences for which Barry is very 
largely responsible, and he knows it (though of course he'd never admit it). 
He's having a really tough time dealing with it. But one thing making it easier 
is that he can now lie freely about FFL, its moderator, and its TM supporters. 
It seems to me that's a fact of potential interest to FFLers.

Me2: I have people whose posts I don't read so I don't get this power he holds 
on you.
 
Judy:

 What on earth does your DNR list have to do with anything?

ME3: Because it shows how an adult would handle a situation of not liking how 
someone posts instead of going to read him when he posts on another site. You 
are powerless to avoid him like a moth to the flame.
 

 Still makes no sense to me, sorry.

Me4: Nor to me. Never understood your behavior amidst your faux protest routine.

Me 2:All this drama about having to create a new group because of him seems 
bogus to me. If you don't like someone, don't read them. If you decide to read 
them, then enjoy the ride you are creating by doing so.
 

 Judy2: Oh, this is just prissy high-horse rubbish, Curtis. Go back to Feste's 
cocktail party analogy. FFL is like a very long-running cocktail party. When 
it's dominated by a person who gets his jollies from sadistically attacking 
people, it's not that easy to ignore. You yourself agreed with me that the 
whole button-pushing bit is basically a crock. For that matter, you've often 
become quite wroth when you've been attacked.

Me3: When I am I either show where I disagree, mock their attack or just skip 
it as I ended up doing with our most famous R. You act as if there is only one 
choice.
 

 Well, no, I don't, actually. I've done all three with Barry as well, as you 
know.
 

 Me2:I enjoy our conversations even though we don't agree on much and I often 
feel misrepresented by you. I don't really get why you can't see that Barry 
provides you with your favorite writing prompts here no matter where he is 
posting.
 

 Judy2: 

[FairfieldLife] Jyotish failing?

2015-07-18 Thread srijau
why aren't painted rocks like these used more in Jyotish? Why is there no-one 
in the movement designated to answer these kinds of questions? black-ops? 
international money-laundering? mafia infiltration? shape shifting reptiles? 
why has no-one answered this yet?
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[FairfieldLife] Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread Duveyoung
FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the 
production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as 
crazy as any bliss ninny ever.

I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us.  YOU OWE US.

 


[FairfieldLife] Re: How To Find A TM Hooker In Fairfield

2015-07-18 Thread ultrarishi
And the best answer goes to S3raphita.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would 
have been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of 
quarry and a precursor to actual flight. 

 
 

You're the man who owns and raises raptors, aren't you? I think you're 
observations should, if that is true, be most likely the closest to the truth 
on this strange and beautiful creature.
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:23 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and 
fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may 
have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very 
colorful.
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?:
 

 Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature 
is an artist at heart.)
 

 But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis 
(beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our 
prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our 
animal cousins). 
 

 How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory 
that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual 
reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer?
 

 A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either 
wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to 
be the way we are.
 

 Currently, the human race could use any means of slowing down their 
reproductive rates  and if gay men and women want to take credit for that then 
I applaud them. I consider my environmental  contribution to be the fact that I 
never had children. That would mean some other couple could have three kids and 
have no more impact on the over population of the planet than if they had two 
and I had had my one. Kind of like those carbon credits those big corporations 
can accrue.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for 
catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
 

 Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage 
early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept 
enhanced cuteness as an explanation?
 

 If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :

 Now, that is a question worthy of consideration. 

 I find it hard to be a strict evolutionist.
 

 I tend to believe there has been some kind of intervention, somewhere along 
the way, or at various times.
 

 I agree. Scientists see only part of the picture and there is a whole schwack 
of mystery out there. Did you see the post Nabby made at The Peak? About that 
man who can withstand fire and lives on milk and one banana per day? Those who 
discount anything that can't be proven via science simply lack courage and 
imagination.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 
 But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis 
(beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our 
prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our 
animal cousins). 

 

 How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory 
that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual 
reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer?
 

 A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either 
wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to 
be the way we are.
 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for 
catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
 

 Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage 
early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept 
enhanced cuteness as an explanation?
 

 If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 New Research Points To Genetic Basis Of Male Gayness 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html 
 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote :

 Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?:
 

 Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature 
is an artist at heart.)
 

 But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis 
(beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our 
prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our 
animal cousins). 
 

 How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory 
that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual 
reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer?
 

 A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either 
wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to 
be the way we are.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for 
catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
 

 Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage 
early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept 
enhanced cuteness as an explanation?
 

 If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Now, that is a question worthy of consideration. 

 I find it hard to be a strict evolutionist.
 

 I tend to believe there has been some kind of intervention, somewhere along 
the way, or at various times.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 
 But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis 
(beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our 
prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our 
animal cousins). 

 

 How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory 
that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual 
reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer?
 

 A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either 
wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to 
be the way we are.
 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for 
catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
 

 Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage 
early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept 
enhanced cuteness as an explanation?
 

 If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Your linked article suggests that mothers of gays are themselves more 
attractive to heterosexual men (thanks to assorted genetic goodies - shapely 
figures/welcoming personalities/ . . . ) so they have more kids than the norm. 

 I doubt there's much (if any) evidence to support that hypothesis. And 
wouldn't natural selection have favoured women who are more attractive to 
heterosexual men AND at the same time had heterosexual children? That way you 
get the biggest payload of offspring to carry forward your genes. 

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote :

 
 New Research Points To Genetic Basis Of Male Gayness 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html 
 
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html
 
 New Research Points To Genetic Basis Of Male Ga... 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html 
By: Natalie Wolchover Published: 06/12/2012 12:59 PM EDT on Lifes Little 
Mysteries While female sexuality appears to be more fluid, research suggests 
tha...


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?:
 

 Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature 
is an artist at heart.)
 

 But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis 
(beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our 
prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our 
animal cousins). 
 

 How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory 
that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual 
reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer?
 

 A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either 
wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to 
be the way we are.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for 
catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
 

 Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage 
early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept 
enhanced cuteness as an explanation?
 

 If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I found that fascinating.  But, what I've observed is that those who 
consider such things impossible, will simply play the it's a fraud card.   

 And never is it worth saying, but the evidence looks pretty substantial, 
because they don't want to hear it.
 

 There are so many anomalies in life, but for a certain mindset, they come up 
with their own far fetched explanations for them.
 

 In many ways they mirror the theist's explanation of God works in mysterious 
ways, with 
 'there is so much we don't know about a,b, or c, and if we only knew more 
about a,b, or c, surely we'd have a suitable explanation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :

 
 I agree. Scientists see only part of the picture and there is a whole schwack 
of mystery out there. 
 

 Did you see the post Nabby made at The Peak? About that man who can withstand 
fire and lives on milk and one banana per day? Those who discount anything that 
can't be proven via science simply lack courage and imagination.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 
 But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis 
(beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our 
prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our 
animal cousins). 

 

 How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory 
that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual 
reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer?
 

 A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either 
wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to 
be the way we are.
 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for 
catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
 

 Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage 
early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept 
enhanced cuteness as an explanation?
 

 If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?:
 

 Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature 
is an artist at heart.)
 

 But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis 
(beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our 
prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our 
animal cousins). 
 

 How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory 
that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual 
reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer?
 

 A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either 
wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to 
be the way we are.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for 
catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster?
 

 Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage 
early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept 
enhanced cuteness as an explanation?
 

 If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on...
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Calm down, Edg. Please. It's only FFL, an Internet group in which people 
exchange views on various topics. It doesn't matter that much, and Rick doesn't 
owe us anything. And starting a post by using one of your favorite expressions, 
followed by the person's name, is hardly likely to encourage him to communicate 
with you. 
 

 Evidently this place means a lot more to certain people than it does to me. 
What am I missing? It's as if someone has misplaced the family tree or spat on 
grandfather's grave or something if one were to judge the preciousness of 
something based on the vehement responses to the change of moderator here. I 
had no idea FFL was so dear to the hearts of Curtis or Edg.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 Just unfriended Rick from my Facebook friends.  I cannot believe his COWARDICE 
in this matter.  It is simply unconscionable for him to give power over all the 
content of FFL to an outrageous person.

If Doug comes in and starts deleting stuff from the past, I will sue.  I have 
the money.  I will sue.

I don't care if I lose, I just care that  Doug and Rick will have to eventually 
allow me to depose them in front of a court reporter. 

 Yes, I am more angry at Rick than at any other fucker that's ever posted here. 
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the 
production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as 
crazy as any bliss ninny ever.

I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us.  YOU OWE US.

 









RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of feste37
Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:50 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

 

  

Calm down, Edg. Please. It's only FFL, an Internet group in which people 
exchange views on various topics. It doesn't matter that much, and Rick doesn't 
owe us anything. And starting a post by using one of your favorite expressions, 
followed by the person's name, is hardly likely to encourage him to communicate 
with you. 

I just saw Doug at Everybody’s. He assures me he won’t be moderating as “Buck”, 
will try to give everyone plenty of latitude, and will use the Yahoo guidelines 
as his template. Hopefully he’ll abide by the dictum That government is best 
which governs least, attributed to Jefferson, although it may have been 
Thoreau or someone else.__



[FairfieldLife] Making waves

2015-07-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Footage has been leaked of our Queen and her mum giving the Nazi salute in 
1933. Nothing to be concerned about - all good clean fun.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E

 When Googling for the clip I came across this photo of a German crowd giving 
the Hitler salute - except for this lone guy who sticks out like a sore thumb. 
I wonder what became of him.
 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread srijau
yahoo groups get deleted without warning and without recourse for not following 
the rules. it has happened many many times.  there is no possibility to sue . 
besides, you have not yet answered my question about Jyotish and painted rocks.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making waves

2015-07-18 Thread feste37
The guy who didn't salute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser
August Landmesser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser 
 
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1910;[1] KIA 17 October 1944; confirmed in 1949) was a worker at the Blohm + 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Footage has been leaked of our Queen and her mum giving the Nazi salute in 
1933. Nothing to be concerned about - all good clean fun.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E

 When Googling for the clip I came across this photo of a German crowd giving 
the Hitler salute - except for this lone guy who sticks out like a sore thumb. 
I wonder what became of him.
 

 




[FairfieldLife] Hey Rick, Thanks for All the Good Times

2015-07-18 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Not sure what all the fuss is about.
 

 Things change. People change.
 

 It's not like we don't have choices.
 

 Oh, if you need a character witness for Edg's threatened lawsuit, (jeez, if I 
had a nickel for each time I've heard that, I'd have at least a $1.50 by now), 
let me know.
 

 I imagine you'd have no shortage in the department.
 

 Anyway, keep up the good work!!


[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug

2015-07-18 Thread srijau
you don't have any majority, what is the subscription to the group? about 1600? 
you have a majority of the loud.

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2015-07-18 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Making waves

2015-07-18 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Re The guy who didn't salute:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser
August Landmesser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser 

 Astonishing! Thanks for that link. Drafted into a Nazi penal battalion and 
killed in action. What karma was he working through!
 

 
 
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser August Landmesser (born 24 May 
1910;[1] KIA 17 October 1944; confirmed in 1949) was a worker at the Blohm + 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...

2015-07-18 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Yes, I've trained raptors( hawks and falcons) for years.  If you've ever 
noticed a road runner, they chase on foot and will glide over ruff terrain, 
such as thorny brush or cactus, which would slow down their quarry, giving them 
an advantage.  I've also watched a family of Caracaras hunting on foot in the 
field, chasing mice, using such a technique.
 

 Thank you, I love to hear experts speak about their field and yours is 
unique. Raptors are not to be toyed with and are not pets in any way. I would 
imagine it would take a combination of courage, insight and respect for your 
animals to make what you do work. It is the same with horses but your birds are 
wilder than horses.
 

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would 
have been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of 
quarry and a precursor to actual flight. 

 
 

You're the man who owns and raises raptors, aren't you? I think you're 
observations should, if that is true, be most likely the closest to the truth 
on this strange and beautiful creature.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote :

 Survival of the fittest?
 

 
 This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the 
Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor).  

 But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) 
about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest.  

 Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one!
 

 Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and 
fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may 
have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very 
colorful.
 

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