[FairfieldLife] Guru-puurNimaa and weather in Spain?
Shall Guru-puurNimaa (7/23 -) Yogic Flyers cool down the weather in Spain? Madrid, Spain - Five-day forecast - Local weather - Finnish Meteorological Institute http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/spain/madrid Madrid, Spain - Five-day forecast - Local weather - Finnish Meteorological Institute http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/spain/madrid Madrid, Spain, Five-day forecast View on en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi http://en.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi/weather/spain/madrid Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Sacred Lotus
http://i.imgur.com/ysaLqAf.gif http://i.imgur.com/ysaLqAf.gif Does Jyotish know about this pattern?
[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
P.S.: This may be unpleasant and embarrassing for you, Curtis, but in the interests of adjusting your perspective in the direction of reality, you might want to keep an eye on Barry's FFL2 posts yourself, noting how many of them have been about moi. (Count the lies in his current post about our conversation and about my purportedly stalking him from forum to forum.) Then have a look here on FFL for how many posts I've made about Barry's FFL2 posts. Doesn't sound appealing, I know, but it'll do you good. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake (lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post. This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're losing an argument you should never have started in the first place. And then it degenerates into meaningless insults. That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and flamming.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning
Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem as the bullying itself. OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! I MUST LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN! Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school playground. It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield power because people give it to them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote : There is some lot of truth to this article. Rick has certainly seen this on his FFL group at yahoo. -JaiGuruYou The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression, but the founders just did not understand how effective their creation would be for the coordination and amplification of harassing behavior. Or that the users who were the biggest bullies would be rewarded with attention for their behavior. Or that young people would come to see this bullying as the norm — as something to emulate in an effort to one-up each other. As the Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment, which was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties, concluded this year: “The sad irony is that online harassers misuse the fundamental strength of the Internet as a powerful communication medium to magnify and co-ordinate their actions and effectively silence and intimidate others.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote : Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning t... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Sites like Reddit can’t rely on better rules to eliminate harassment. View on www.washingtonpos... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
Yes, warming would have been a direct benefit, not only for themselves but in incubation and nurturing very young. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 12:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h | | | | | | http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h | | | View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716 -- #yiv2043273716ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-mkp #yiv2043273716hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-mkp #yiv2043273716ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-mkp .yiv2043273716ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-mkp .yiv2043273716ad p {margin:0;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-mkp .yiv2043273716ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-sponsor #yiv2043273716ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-sponsor #yiv2043273716ygrp-lc #yiv2043273716hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716ygrp-sponsor #yiv2043273716ygrp-lc .yiv2043273716ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716activity span .yiv2043273716underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 dd.yiv2043273716last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2043273716 dd.yiv2043273716last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv2043273716 dd.yiv2043273716last p span.yiv2043273716yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716file-title a, #yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716file-title a:active, #yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716file-title a:hover, #yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716photo-title a, #yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716photo-title a:active, #yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716photo-title a:hover, #yiv2043273716 div.yiv2043273716photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv2043273716 div#yiv2043273716ygrp-mlmsg #yiv2043273716ygrp-msg p a span.yiv2043273716yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv2043273716 .yiv2043273716MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv2043273716 o {font-size:0;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv2043273716 #yiv2043273716photos div label
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would have been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of quarry and a precursor to actual flight. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very colorful. http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h | | | | | | http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h | | | View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233 -- #yiv9034489233ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-mkp #yiv9034489233hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-mkp #yiv9034489233ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-mkp .yiv9034489233ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-mkp .yiv9034489233ad p {margin:0;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-mkp .yiv9034489233ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-sponsor #yiv9034489233ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-sponsor #yiv9034489233ygrp-lc #yiv9034489233hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233ygrp-sponsor #yiv9034489233ygrp-lc .yiv9034489233ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233activity span .yiv9034489233underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 dd.yiv9034489233last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9034489233 dd.yiv9034489233last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv9034489233 dd.yiv9034489233last p span.yiv9034489233yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233file-title a, #yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233file-title a:active, #yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233file-title a:hover, #yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233photo-title a, #yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233photo-title a:active, #yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233photo-title a:hover, #yiv9034489233 div.yiv9034489233photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv9034489233 div#yiv9034489233ygrp-mlmsg #yiv9034489233ygrp-msg p a span.yiv9034489233yshortcuts {font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;font-weight:normal;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233green {color:#628c2a;}#yiv9034489233 .yiv9034489233MsoNormal {margin:0 0 0 0;}#yiv9034489233 o {font-size:0;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233photos div {float:left;width:72px;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233photos div div {border:1px solid #66;height:62px;overflow:hidden;width:62px;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233photos div label {color:#66;font-size:10px;overflow:hidden;text-align:center;white-space:nowrap;width:64px;}#yiv9034489233 #yiv9034489233reco-category
[FairfieldLife] When do you go?
OK, it turns out Stephen Hawking was wrong and time travel is actually possible. The first machines are commercially available very soon but where, or rather when, do you go? Myself I'd see The Stranglers play live in some grotty South London pub circa '76. That's just the starting point obviously, I'd also go see The Doors in '67 somewhere in LA. Might bump into the two Barry,s, I could freak them out by predicting their future. After a stop in Topanga valley to say hi to Spirit my fave 60's band who lived in a farmhouse there. After that, not much would interest me until we get back as far as Roman Britain. The contrast between their organisation with good roads and smart architecture in neat towns and the iron age hill forts and tribesfolk of the highlands would make for some great photo's I think. I'd have to meet Jesus I suppose, if only to see if he was real. Maybe he could cure my eczema? Wouldn't bother with any other religious people though, if you've met one Indian faker you've met them all. Greece and Rome are essential stop off points, in fact I'd stop and see all the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World they must have been superb in their prime. I've seen most of them as they are now but we have a funny thing in the West of leaving the original building to fall apart. In the Far East they do the opposite and rebuild them every now and again to keep them pristine. We say they aren't the same thing but they just as rightly say they are exactly the same as they always were and we should take more care of our stuff. Babylon must have been rather impressive in it's heyday, all that blue glazed marble with lions and dragons all round it. Mesopotamia as a whole was rather impressive, cradle of civilisation and all that. Just think, these people were the first to build cities, what a lot of things to overcome just to break our natural desire to live in small groups, must have been worth it for them. After that I'd sit on a hill in Sinai and watch the first humans cross the end of the great rift valley and start the trek out of Africa. The only bit of advice I'd give them is to leave the oil in the ground, it isn't worth the hassle. And then it would be off to the Mesozoic to check out some major prehistoric fauna, dinosaurs, pterosaurs, pelycosaurs. I'd be in heaven. Would I visit the future, nah. It'll just be the same old thing with faster cars and smellier air. At least until humanity dies out, might be worth a look at what evolves to fill the gap. What did I miss?
[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake (lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post. This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're losing an argument you should never have started in the first place. And then it degenerates into meaningless insults. That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and flamming. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : snip Doug (not Buck) said he hadn't heard Maharishi say anything about Subud. (Barry made fun of him for that, but then t3rinity chimed in that he hadn't heard anything either. Another Oooopsie! for Barry.) As I said, what Doug wrote seems to me more like a call for more information, given that Wikipedia didn't say anything about its involving spirit possession. Me3: It was on TTC. I forget if Buck was made a teacher. Buck and I also heard tapes of him talking about this on our rounding courses as MIU students. So you say. I'll leave that claim for Doug to deal with if he's so inclined. Me4: We took the same rounding courses with the same tapes. So yes, that is what I am saying. Judy: Barry is the primary source of all the upheaval relating to FFL; he's the main reason for the split-off to The Peak, and for Rick deciding moderation of FFL was necessary. That's a heavy set of consequences for which Barry is very largely responsible, and he knows it (though of course he'd never admit it). He's having a really tough time dealing with it. But one thing making it easier is that he can now lie freely about FFL, its moderator, and its TM supporters. It seems to me that's a fact of potential interest to FFLers. Me2: I have people whose posts I don't read so I don't get this power he holds on you. Judy: What on earth does your DNR list have to do with anything? ME3: Because it shows how an adult would handle a situation of not liking how someone posts instead of going to read him when he posts on another site. You are powerless to avoid him like a moth to the flame. Still makes no sense to me, sorry. Me4: Nor to me. Never understood your behavior amidst your faux protest routine. Me 2:All this drama about having to create a new group because of him seems bogus to me. If you don't like someone, don't read them. If you decide to read them, then enjoy the ride you are creating by doing so. Judy2: Oh, this is just prissy high-horse rubbish, Curtis. Go back to Feste's cocktail party analogy. FFL is like a very long-running cocktail party. When it's dominated by a person who gets his jollies from sadistically attacking people, it's not that easy to ignore. You yourself agreed with me that the whole button-pushing bit is basically a crock. For that matter, you've often become quite wroth when you've been attacked. Me3: When I am I either show where I disagree, mock their attack or just skip it as I ended up doing with our most famous R. You act as if there is only one choice. Well, no, I don't, actually. I've done all three with Barry as well, as you know. Me2:I enjoy our conversations even though we don't agree on much and I often feel misrepresented by you. I don't really get why you can't see that Barry provides you with your favorite writing prompts here no matter where he is posting. Judy2: Barry does not provide me with my favorite writing prompts (what a pretentious phrase, writing prompts). Me3: It comes from schools. Those third grade teachers are so pretentious aren't they? I'm not talking about third grade teachers. I'm talking about Curtis using the phrase on FFL. Me4: Wow you really had to reach to create that insult out of nothing. Yes I used a term common in schools about things that prompt us to write. And as far as your writing history here goes, you are most prompted to write by anything that Barry says on this or any other site. J: I'd much rather write about other things (and did, when there was a pause in Barry's jihad against me). You don't provide them either, as it happens. It's a big bore to have to untangle your flim-flam. I vastly prefer discussions that are straightforward and conducted with integrity. Me3: This was worth the whole post. You do know that some of us are aware of your history of writing here right? If you tell me it has bored you or that you would rather write about other things, you are proving my point. You are powerless. And if you have not enjoyed our many long conversations as I have, you are quite pathetic since you engaged in them for so
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
Just unfriended Rick from my Facebook friends. I cannot believe his COWARDICE in this matter. It is simply unconscionable for him to give power over all the content of FFL to an outrageous person. If Doug comes in and starts deleting stuff from the past, I will sue. I have the money. I will sue. I don't care if I lose, I just care that Doug and Rick will have to eventually allow me to depose them in front of a court reporter. Yes, I am more angry at Rick than at any other fucker that's ever posted here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as crazy as any bliss ninny ever. I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us. YOU OWE US.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning
On 07/18/2015 11:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Not to worry. The way things are going one of these mornings you'll wake up, go turn on your computer and find you can't log onto FFL. In fact you can't log onto anything. Then there is a knock on your door and it's your neighbor you haven't seen in months asking you if your Internet is down too. Turns out talking around the neighborhood it's down for everyone. The cyberwar has gone nuclear. Far fetched? Well, here in the Bay Area the FBI is trying to find who is cutting fiber cable lines sometimes knocking out whole communities. The battlefield between nations is now the Internet which grew unexpectedly a little too fast to be pro-active about it. But then any outsider logging into FFL would probably think they'd stumbled into some teen chat room. Where are the adults? You're too hard on yourself dude. I seem to recall back in the day we said this place was inhabited by Smurfs. :-D On 07/18/2015 05:27 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem as the bullying itself. OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! I MUST LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN! Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school playground. It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield power because people give it to them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : There is some lot of truth to this article. Rick has certainly seen this on his FFL group at yahoo. -JaiGuruYou The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression, but the founders just did not understand how effective their creation would be for the coordination and amplification of harassing behavior. Or that the users who were the biggest bullies would be rewarded with attention for their behavior. Or that young people would come to see this bullying as the norm — as something to emulate in an effort to one-up each other. As the Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment, which was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties, concluded this year: “The sad irony is that online harassers misuse the fundamental strength of the Internet as a powerful communication medium to magnify and co-ordinate their actions and effectively silence and intimidate others.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html image http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning t... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Sites like Reddit can’t rely on better rules to eliminate harassment. View on www.washingtonpos... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Preview by Yahoo
RE: [FairfieldLife] Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 1:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as crazy as any bliss ninny ever. I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us. YOU OWE US. You want to be the moderator Edg? I have 1300 posts in my FFL folder, dating back 3 weeks, and I haven’t read any of them. It makes no sense for me to be moderator. I have moved on to other things. Does anybody here have the time, patience, and wisdom to do it fairly, without anger, without taking sides, without threatening law suits, etc.?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
Calm down, Edg. Please. It's only FFL, an Internet group in which people exchange views on various topics. It doesn't matter that much, and Rick doesn't owe us anything. And starting a post by using one of your favorite expressions, followed by the person's name, is hardly likely to encourage him to communicate with you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Just unfriended Rick from my Facebook friends. I cannot believe his COWARDICE in this matter. It is simply unconscionable for him to give power over all the content of FFL to an outrageous person. If Doug comes in and starts deleting stuff from the past, I will sue. I have the money. I will sue. I don't care if I lose, I just care that Doug and Rick will have to eventually allow me to depose them in front of a court reporter. Yes, I am more angry at Rick than at any other fucker that's ever posted here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as crazy as any bliss ninny ever. I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us. YOU OWE US.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
Satyam bruyat priyam bruyat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as crazy as any bliss ninny ever. I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us. YOU OWE US.
[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : (snip) Me: I'll just take you at your word. You see Barry enjoys what he is doing and doesn't complain that he would be writing all sorts of other wonderful stuff if only you would stop posting about him. (snip) Right. Neither do I make that complaint about him. You've forgotten, those are words you put in my mouth. That's a particularly egregious whopper even for you.
[FairfieldLife] Overwhelmed by the tech obsessed world?
*Overwhelmed by a tech-obsessed world? Try unplugging* http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28502224/overwhelmed-by-tech-obsessed-world-try-unplugging /Apple, Yahoo!, VWware and a number of other Silicon Valley companies also encourage employees to meditate during the day. /
[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : P.S.: This may be unpleasant and embarrassing for you, Curtis, but in the interests of adjusting your perspective in the direction of reality, you might want to keep an eye on Barry's FFL2 posts yourself, noting how many of them have been about moi. (Count the lies in his current post about our conversation and about my purportedly stalking him from forum to forum.) Then have a look here on FFL for how many posts I've made about Barry's FFL2 posts. Doesn't sound appealing, I know, but it'll do you good. Me: I'll just take you at your word. You see Barry enjoys what he is doing and doesn't complain that he would be writing all sorts of other wonderful stuff if only you would stop posting about him. I haven't ever claimed that Barry doesn't post a lot about you, he does. He doesn't pretend it is more than it is or that he doesn't enjoy it. Same for me. You are, by the numbers my favorite person to communicate with. I am not on a holy jihad of correcting your errors, (although many of my posts involve that) I am having fun typing here and you are usually game for an exchange. It gives me a prompt for writing (I know how you feel about this) in a specific direction and you are usually good for a round or two, so it works for me. You two mostly write past each other which is not as appealing for me. I was never a big fan of reading your exchanges and don't plan to start now. It is a choice, at least for me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake (lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post. This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're losing an argument you should never have started in the first place. And then it degenerates into meaningless insults. That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and flamming.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Not to worry. The way things are going one of these mornings you'll wake up, go turn on your computer and find you can't log onto FFL. In fact you can't log onto anything. Then there is a knock on your door and it's your neighbor you haven't seen in months asking you if your Internet is down too. Turns out talking around the neighborhood it's down for everyone. The cyberwar has gone nuclear. Far fetched? Well, here in the Bay Area the FBI is trying to find who is cutting fiber cable lines sometimes knocking out whole communities. The battlefield between nations is now the Internet which grew unexpectedly a little too fast to be pro-active about it. But then any outsider logging into FFL would probably think they'd stumbled into some teen chat room. Where are the adults? You're too hard on yourself dude. On 07/18/2015 05:27 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem as the bullying itself. OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! I MUST LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN! Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school playground. It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield power because people give it to them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : There is some lot of truth to this article. Rick has certainly seen this on his FFL group at yahoo. -JaiGuruYou The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression, but the founders just did not understand how effective their creation would be for the coordination and amplification of harassing behavior. Or that the users who were the biggest bullies would be rewarded with attention for their behavior. Or that young people would come to see this bullying as the norm — as something to emulate in an effort to one-up each other. As the Electronic Frontier Foundation, which was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties, concluded this year: “The sad irony is that online harassers misuse the fundamental strength of the Internet as a powerful communication medium to magnify and co-ordinate their actions and effectively silence and intimidate others.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning t... Sites like Reddit can’t rely on better rules to eliminate harassment. View on www.washingtonpos... Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning
Not to worry. The way things are going one of these mornings you'll wake up, go turn on your computer and find you can't log onto FFL. In fact you can't log onto anything. Then there is a knock on your door and it's your neighbor you haven't seen in months asking you if your Internet is down too. Turns out talking around the neighborhood it's down for everyone. The cyberwar has gone nuclear. Far fetched? Well, here in the Bay Area the FBI is trying to find who is cutting fiber cable lines sometimes knocking out whole communities. The battlefield between nations is now the Internet which grew unexpectedly a little too fast to be pro-active about it. But then any outsider logging into FFL would probably think they'd stumbled into some teen chat room. Where are the adults? On 07/18/2015 05:27 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Awarding bullies with attention is as much a part of the problem as the bullying itself. OMG! HE JUST POSTED THE SAME RANT HE'S POSTED A THOUSAND TIMES BEFORE! I MUST LASH OUT AT HIM IN RETURN! Why not just ignore it? It's not like real life fists on a school playground. It's just words on a screen. Online bullies wield power because people give it to them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote : There is some lot of truth to this article. Rick has certainly seen this on his FFL group at yahoo. -JaiGuruYou The foundations of the Internet were laid on free expression, but the founders just did not understand how effective their creation would be for the coordination and amplification of harassing behavior. Or that the users who were the biggest bullies would be rewarded with attention for their behavior. Or that young people would come to see this bullying as the norm — as something to emulate in an effort to one-up each other. As the Electronic Frontier Foundation https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/01/facing-challenge-online-harassment, which was founded to help protect Internet civil liberties, concluded this year: “The sad irony is that online harassers misuse the fundamental strength of the Internet as a powerful communication medium to magnify and co-ordinate their actions and effectively silence and intimidate others.” ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote : Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning the battle for the Internet http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html image http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao: The trolls are winning t... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Sites like Reddit can’t rely on better rules to eliminate harassment. View on www.washingtonpos... http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-cannot-let-the-internet-trolls-win/2015/07/16/91b1a2d2-2b17-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Unplugging: Overwhelmed by the tech obsessed world?
Good cultural observation, Meditation as 'unplugged' time to re-charge.. Marwaha said. It makes sense to have a nondigital time. But it's a personal choice. You have to start with yourself. -JaiGuruYou! SAP has started offering twice-weekly meditation sessions through its Mindfulness At Work program, founded by instructor Peter Bostelmann. The company has quiet rooms in its Bay Area campuses ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : Overwhelmed by a tech-obsessed world? Try unplugging http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28502224/overwhelmed-by-tech-obsessed-world-try-unplugging http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_28502224/overwhelmed-by-tech-obsessed-world-try-unplugging Apple, Yahoo!, VWware and a number of other Silicon Valley companies also encourage employees to meditate during the day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
Yes, I've trained raptors( hawks and falcons) for years. If you've ever noticed a road runner, they chase on foot and will glide over ruff terrain, such as thorny brush or cactus, which would slow down their quarry, giving them an advantage. I've also watched a family of Caracaras hunting on foot in the field, chasing mice, using such a technique. From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would have been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of quarry and a precursor to actual flight. You're the man who owns and raises raptors, aren't you? I think you're observations should, if that is true, be most likely the closest to the truth on this strange and beautiful creature. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very colorful. http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h | | | | | | http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h | | | View on tinyurl.com| Preview by Yahoo | | | #yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541 -- #yiv8749197541ygrp-mkp {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-mkp hr {border:1px solid #d8d8d8;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-mkp #yiv8749197541hd {color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-mkp #yiv8749197541ads {margin-bottom:10px;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-mkp .yiv8749197541ad {padding:0 0;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-mkp .yiv8749197541ad p {margin:0;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-mkp .yiv8749197541ad a {color:#ff;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-sponsor #yiv8749197541ygrp-lc {font-family:Arial;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-sponsor #yiv8749197541ygrp-lc #yiv8749197541hd {margin:10px 0px;font-weight:700;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541ygrp-sponsor #yiv8749197541ygrp-lc .yiv8749197541ad {margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541actions {font-family:Verdana;font-size:11px;padding:10px 0;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541activity {background-color:#e0ecee;float:left;font-family:Verdana;font-size:10px;padding:10px;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541activity span {font-weight:700;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541activity span:first-child {text-transform:uppercase;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541activity span a {color:#5085b6;text-decoration:none;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541activity span span {color:#ff7900;}#yiv8749197541 #yiv8749197541activity span .yiv8749197541underline {text-decoration:underline;}#yiv8749197541 .yiv8749197541attach {clear:both;display:table;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;padding:10px 0;width:400px;}#yiv8749197541 .yiv8749197541attach div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8749197541 .yiv8749197541attach img {border:none;padding-right:5px;}#yiv8749197541 .yiv8749197541attach label {display:block;margin-bottom:5px;}#yiv8749197541 .yiv8749197541attach label a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8749197541 blockquote {margin:0 0 0 4px;}#yiv8749197541 .yiv8749197541bold {font-family:Arial;font-size:13px;font-weight:700;}#yiv8749197541 .yiv8749197541bold a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8749197541 dd.yiv8749197541last p a {font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8749197541 dd.yiv8749197541last p span {margin-right:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:700;}#yiv8749197541 dd.yiv8749197541last p span.yiv8749197541yshortcuts {margin-right:0;}#yiv8749197541 div.yiv8749197541attach-table div div a {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8749197541 div.yiv8749197541attach-table {width:400px;}#yiv8749197541 div.yiv8749197541file-title a, #yiv8749197541 div.yiv8749197541file-title a:active, #yiv8749197541 div.yiv8749197541file-title a:hover, #yiv8749197541 div.yiv8749197541file-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv8749197541 div.yiv8749197541photo-title a, #yiv8749197541
[FairfieldLife] Re: for teachers
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : Well, Curtis, you've managed to nudge this discussion farther and farther away from the actual issue, which was your erroneous claims that Barry's mistake (lie?) about who started the Subud discussion was an insignificant detail, and that I had missed the point of his Is Doug Hamilton Possessed? post. Me: It remains insignificant and you had missed the point. Judy: This is a standard bit of your flim-flammery when you realize you're losing an argument you should never have started in the first place. And then it degenerates into meaningless insults. Me: I never lost any argument about Barry's big mistake. He got that insignificant detail wrong. Your pattern is to miss the forest for the trees but be too stubborn to take any feedback. It is one of your odd charms that never fails to amaze me. I can never guess which little fact you will fixate on to derail the conversation from what I consider the main point. In this case it was obviously that Buck was giving some positive spin to Subud which for an ex teacher is comical. It is like having someone post that they like to say their mantra to a Reggae rhythm while posing as a TM hard liner. It was funny. Whether or not Buck introduced the topic before he expressed his opinions on it wasn't Barry's point or the subject of my amusement about it. You were in your own rabbit hole as usual and I am left wide eyed at how you did it again. Judy That's the stage we're at now. I'll leave you to continue flimming and flamming. Me: You are saying that so I know what you are referring to when you were complaining about discussions degenerating into meaningless insults right? Are you even aware of how silly you sound with so little self awareness about your own writing? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues@... wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote : snip Doug (not Buck) said he hadn't heard Maharishi say anything about Subud. (Barry made fun of him for that, but then t3rinity chimed in that he hadn't heard anything either. Another Oooopsie! for Barry.) As I said, what Doug wrote seems to me more like a call for more information, given that Wikipedia didn't say anything about its involving spirit possession. Me3: It was on TTC. I forget if Buck was made a teacher. Buck and I also heard tapes of him talking about this on our rounding courses as MIU students. So you say. I'll leave that claim for Doug to deal with if he's so inclined. Me4: We took the same rounding courses with the same tapes. So yes, that is what I am saying. Judy: Barry is the primary source of all the upheaval relating to FFL; he's the main reason for the split-off to The Peak, and for Rick deciding moderation of FFL was necessary. That's a heavy set of consequences for which Barry is very largely responsible, and he knows it (though of course he'd never admit it). He's having a really tough time dealing with it. But one thing making it easier is that he can now lie freely about FFL, its moderator, and its TM supporters. It seems to me that's a fact of potential interest to FFLers. Me2: I have people whose posts I don't read so I don't get this power he holds on you. Judy: What on earth does your DNR list have to do with anything? ME3: Because it shows how an adult would handle a situation of not liking how someone posts instead of going to read him when he posts on another site. You are powerless to avoid him like a moth to the flame. Still makes no sense to me, sorry. Me4: Nor to me. Never understood your behavior amidst your faux protest routine. Me 2:All this drama about having to create a new group because of him seems bogus to me. If you don't like someone, don't read them. If you decide to read them, then enjoy the ride you are creating by doing so. Judy2: Oh, this is just prissy high-horse rubbish, Curtis. Go back to Feste's cocktail party analogy. FFL is like a very long-running cocktail party. When it's dominated by a person who gets his jollies from sadistically attacking people, it's not that easy to ignore. You yourself agreed with me that the whole button-pushing bit is basically a crock. For that matter, you've often become quite wroth when you've been attacked. Me3: When I am I either show where I disagree, mock their attack or just skip it as I ended up doing with our most famous R. You act as if there is only one choice. Well, no, I don't, actually. I've done all three with Barry as well, as you know. Me2:I enjoy our conversations even though we don't agree on much and I often feel misrepresented by you. I don't really get why you can't see that Barry provides you with your favorite writing prompts here no matter where he is posting. Judy2:
[FairfieldLife] Jyotish failing?
why aren't painted rocks like these used more in Jyotish? Why is there no-one in the movement designated to answer these kinds of questions? black-ops? international money-laundering? mafia infiltration? shape shifting reptiles? why has no-one answered this yet? Photos from 3dfirstaid visual... - 3dfirstaid visual architecture | Facebook https://www.facebook.com/3dfirstaid/photos/pcb.1047391825271258/1047391535271287/?type=1theater https://www.facebook.com/3dfirstaid/photos/pcb.1047391825271258/1047391535271287/?type=1theater Photos from 3dfirstaid visual... - 3dfirstaid visual arc... https://www.facebook.com/3dfirstaid/photos/pcb.1047391825271258/1047391535271287/?type=1theater 3dfirstaid visual architecture posted this photo on 2015-07-16. 1503 likes. 33 comments. 168 shares. View on www.facebook.com https://www.facebook.com/3dfirstaid/photos/pcb.1047391825271258/1047391535271287/?type=1theater Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as crazy as any bliss ninny ever. I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us. YOU OWE US.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How To Find A TM Hooker In Fairfield
And the best answer goes to S3raphita.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would have been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of quarry and a precursor to actual flight. You're the man who owns and raises raptors, aren't you? I think you're observations should, if that is true, be most likely the closest to the truth on this strange and beautiful creature. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very colorful. http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?: Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature is an artist at heart.) But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis (beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our animal cousins). How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer? A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to be the way we are. Currently, the human race could use any means of slowing down their reproductive rates and if gay men and women want to take credit for that then I applaud them. I consider my environmental contribution to be the fact that I never had children. That would mean some other couple could have three kids and have no more impact on the over population of the planet than if they had two and I had had my one. Kind of like those carbon credits those big corporations can accrue. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Now, that is a question worthy of consideration. I find it hard to be a strict evolutionist. I tend to believe there has been some kind of intervention, somewhere along the way, or at various times. I agree. Scientists see only part of the picture and there is a whole schwack of mystery out there. Did you see the post Nabby made at The Peak? About that man who can withstand fire and lives on milk and one banana per day? Those who discount anything that can't be proven via science simply lack courage and imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis (beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our animal cousins). How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer? A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to be the way we are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
New Research Points To Genetic Basis Of Male Gayness http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html New Research Points To Genetic Basis Of Male Ga... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html By: Natalie Wolchover Published: 06/12/2012 12:59 PM EDT on Lifes Little Mysteries While female sexuality appears to be more fluid, research suggests tha... View on www.huffingtonpost... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote : Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?: Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature is an artist at heart.) But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis (beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our animal cousins). How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer? A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to be the way we are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
Now, that is a question worthy of consideration. I find it hard to be a strict evolutionist. I tend to believe there has been some kind of intervention, somewhere along the way, or at various times. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis (beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our animal cousins). How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer? A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to be the way we are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
Your linked article suggests that mothers of gays are themselves more attractive to heterosexual men (thanks to assorted genetic goodies - shapely figures/welcoming personalities/ . . . ) so they have more kids than the norm. I doubt there's much (if any) evidence to support that hypothesis. And wouldn't natural selection have favoured women who are more attractive to heterosexual men AND at the same time had heterosexual children? That way you get the biggest payload of offspring to carry forward your genes. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : New Research Points To Genetic Basis Of Male Gayness http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html New Research Points To Genetic Basis Of Male Ga... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html By: Natalie Wolchover Published: 06/12/2012 12:59 PM EDT on Lifes Little Mysteries While female sexuality appears to be more fluid, research suggests tha... View on www.huffingtonpost... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/12/why-are-there-gay-men_n_1590501.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?: Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature is an artist at heart.) But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis (beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our animal cousins). How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer? A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to be the way we are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
Yes, I found that fascinating. But, what I've observed is that those who consider such things impossible, will simply play the it's a fraud card. And never is it worth saying, but the evidence looks pretty substantial, because they don't want to hear it. There are so many anomalies in life, but for a certain mindset, they come up with their own far fetched explanations for them. In many ways they mirror the theist's explanation of God works in mysterious ways, with 'there is so much we don't know about a,b, or c, and if we only knew more about a,b, or c, surely we'd have a suitable explanation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : I agree. Scientists see only part of the picture and there is a whole schwack of mystery out there. Did you see the post Nabby made at The Peak? About that man who can withstand fire and lives on milk and one banana per day? Those who discount anything that can't be proven via science simply lack courage and imagination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis (beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our animal cousins). How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer? A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to be the way we are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
Re Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation?: Nope. (But the beauty of the world around us does suggest that Mother Nature is an artist at heart.) But a more serious objection to Darwin's natural selection hypothesis (beautifully simple and powerful as the idea is) than weird monsters from our prehistoric past is the prevalence of homosexuality (in humans if not our animal cousins). How can behaviour that is sterile possibly have evolved according to a theory that claims Nature favours acts that increase an organism's chances of sexual reproduction? Anyone want to attempt an answer? A gay man or woman is walking, talking proof that natural selection is either wrong or (more likely) radically incomplete as an explanation of how we got to be the way we are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Hmm, maybe they were originally for keeping warm and became useful for catching insects or mating displays. Or maybe they just helped it run faster? Feathers are deformed scales so they must have had some sort of advantage early on or they wouldn't have got very far. Don't suppose you'd accept enhanced cuteness as an explanation? If I had a time machine this is the sort of problem I would work on... http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Calm down, Edg. Please. It's only FFL, an Internet group in which people exchange views on various topics. It doesn't matter that much, and Rick doesn't owe us anything. And starting a post by using one of your favorite expressions, followed by the person's name, is hardly likely to encourage him to communicate with you. Evidently this place means a lot more to certain people than it does to me. What am I missing? It's as if someone has misplaced the family tree or spat on grandfather's grave or something if one were to judge the preciousness of something based on the vehement responses to the change of moderator here. I had no idea FFL was so dear to the hearts of Curtis or Edg. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Just unfriended Rick from my Facebook friends. I cannot believe his COWARDICE in this matter. It is simply unconscionable for him to give power over all the content of FFL to an outrageous person. If Doug comes in and starts deleting stuff from the past, I will sue. I have the money. I will sue. I don't care if I lose, I just care that Doug and Rick will have to eventually allow me to depose them in front of a court reporter. Yes, I am more angry at Rick than at any other fucker that's ever posted here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : FUCK YOU RICK ARCHER -- you have sinned big time -- you just gave all the production of all the FFL minds to a person who is, by majority opinion, as crazy as any bliss ninny ever. I cannot believe you have not explained yourself to us. YOU OWE US.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of feste37 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug Calm down, Edg. Please. It's only FFL, an Internet group in which people exchange views on various topics. It doesn't matter that much, and Rick doesn't owe us anything. And starting a post by using one of your favorite expressions, followed by the person's name, is hardly likely to encourage him to communicate with you. I just saw Doug at Everybody’s. He assures me he won’t be moderating as “Buck”, will try to give everyone plenty of latitude, and will use the Yahoo guidelines as his template. Hopefully he’ll abide by the dictum That government is best which governs least, attributed to Jefferson, although it may have been Thoreau or someone else.__
[FairfieldLife] Making waves
Footage has been leaked of our Queen and her mum giving the Nazi salute in 1933. Nothing to be concerned about - all good clean fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E When Googling for the clip I came across this photo of a German crowd giving the Hitler salute - except for this lone guy who sticks out like a sore thumb. I wonder what became of him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
yahoo groups get deleted without warning and without recourse for not following the rules. it has happened many many times. there is no possibility to sue . besides, you have not yet answered my question about Jyotish and painted rocks.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Making waves
The guy who didn't salute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser August Landmesser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser August Landmesser - Wikipedia, the free encycl... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser August Landmesser (born 24 May 1910;[1] KIA 17 October 1944; confirmed in 1949) was a worker at the Blohm + Voss shipyard in Hamburg, Germany, be... View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Footage has been leaked of our Queen and her mum giving the Nazi salute in 1933. Nothing to be concerned about - all good clean fun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU55Bxr7T6E When Googling for the clip I came across this photo of a German crowd giving the Hitler salute - except for this lone guy who sticks out like a sore thumb. I wonder what became of him.
[FairfieldLife] Hey Rick, Thanks for All the Good Times
Not sure what all the fuss is about. Things change. People change. It's not like we don't have choices. Oh, if you need a character witness for Edg's threatened lawsuit, (jeez, if I had a nickel for each time I've heard that, I'd have at least a $1.50 by now), let me know. I imagine you'd have no shortage in the department. Anyway, keep up the good work!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Alex says Rick transferred FFL ownership to Doug
you don't have any majority, what is the subscription to the group? about 1600? you have a majority of the loud.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Making waves
Re The guy who didn't salute: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser August Landmesser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser Astonishing! Thanks for that link. Drafted into a Nazi penal battalion and killed in action. What karma was he working through! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser August Landmesser - Wikipedia, the free encycl... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser August Landmesser (born 24 May 1910;[1] KIA 17 October 1944; confirmed in 1949) was a worker at the Blohm + Voss shipyard in Hamburg, Germany, best ... View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Landmesser Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : Yes, I've trained raptors( hawks and falcons) for years. If you've ever noticed a road runner, they chase on foot and will glide over ruff terrain, such as thorny brush or cactus, which would slow down their quarry, giving them an advantage. I've also watched a family of Caracaras hunting on foot in the field, chasing mice, using such a technique. Thank you, I love to hear experts speak about their field and yours is unique. Raptors are not to be toyed with and are not pets in any way. I would imagine it would take a combination of courage, insight and respect for your animals to make what you do work. It is the same with horses but your birds are wilder than horses. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : I think the feathers could have been functional. It looks as if they would have been able to glide short distances, an advantage in a long pursuit of quarry and a precursor to actual flight. You're the man who owns and raises raptors, aren't you? I think you're observations should, if that is true, be most likely the closest to the truth on this strange and beautiful creature. From: awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 10:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jurassic Park: our feathered friends... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Survival of the fittest? This is what the original looked like of that fossil just found in China (the Zhenyuanlong suni - a cousin of the better known Velociraptor). But it couldn't fly so those wings are surely (as the tired old cliché has it) about as much use as a one-legged man in an arse-kicking contest. Let's see those neo-Darwinians explain this one! Those wings could have been aids in making that creature look bigger and fiercer or, as we are told, birds are descendants of dinosaurs and this may have evolved into some other bird species (albeit large). Very cool and very colorful. http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h View on tinyurl.com http://tinyurl.com/p8kf48h Preview by Yahoo