date:20150926

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved to: 
readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years TM 
has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 
 TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.There is a major shift, again with TM under the 
watch of David Lynch Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will 
subside or flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. 
The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  
Why not? Corporations rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.If TM 
were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.$250 dollars for a nike 
shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG TERM 
TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time we may now begin speaking about greater genius, greater creativity, and 
greater goodness in the light of science. 
Envy or jealously may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over the edge, 
into desiring more than what they have. When the masses begin to see results 
manifest in other people who do TM, they will wake to the realization; this is 
my knowledge, not India's.It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, 
resulting from TM. Start the process, it will unfold over time. 

Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which protected 
and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of this teaching should 
be protected and maintained behind closed doors. Emphasis should be placed upon 
western thought.  As this knowledge spreads over time, if it is successful, 
than Western man will re package this technique in the light of their language. 
Only then will the masses take hold to the degree, it should.
I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not attached 
to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for contemplation. Focus on 
the reach, not the weakness of each word or phrase. What I write is not truth, 
but relative impressions of the moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes 
nothing. Do better than I; I am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. 
Even I, as dull as I am, can see imperfection.Dave Ryan
 
 


 On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't 
going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even 
Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There 
is no need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about 
creating a catalyst. "do less and accomplish more".
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point 
made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.What I said was...People 
would line up at age 10to receivetheir key to unlock their God givenpotential 
as humanbeings.You may suggest TM is a gateway to God but doing so would 
require work, as you suggested, I agree with your theory. You said:
 "I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending"There in lies the problem... people outside 
of the TM movement, view us as part of a group who think a certain way. This is 
normal thinking, groups think as groups do. In a sense, a group, by it's nature 
removes it's thinking away from the whole. Others outside of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a coincidence?

2015-09-26 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge.

Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as
lying by omission. There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community.

In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as
method of spiritual practice/meditation. That meditation could conflict with
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis. It could therefore be better if
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?

HAHA, excellent question.

(I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)

From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a
coincidence?

Yes, a grace. A type of blessing not uncommon when it is looked for in
cultivated people. Helpful where used for others as transformation that can
come as a spiritual fruit of spiritual cultivation, the capacity to help
others. We have seen it in Fairfield. It can be just field effect of
spiritual capacity or be wielded intended as a prakriti vector in a flow of
shakti, a good vibration and is not necessarily uncommon.

It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is
not the only one around with that grace.

-JaiGuruYou!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

It's a miracle (smile).

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

This caught my attention:

Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/
"The Pope healed our baby's heart." Lynn Cassidy has no other words to explain
what happened to her 3-month-old daughter Ave.

View on www.usatoday.com
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Mam, the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a job to do. 
If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniques then he has some 
'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have to find three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him. It is just the way it works 
here now. Procedure. Was he part of that Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and 
is selling and teaching it bootleg as “Centering Prayer”? 
  
 Like others in his position he'd have some 'splainin' to do. Recently they 
been having people swear an oath that they would stop seeing saints and 
teachers like him. The Pope simply is not in a good position to get a valid 
badge to meditate with the group. -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Son, the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have had the Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for a Dome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read them directly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up on campus. He works for and promotes an organization that teaches spiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
 
 
 The TM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badge by our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actually fortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get a meditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown in Fairfield. 
 
 
 The Rajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved about this 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice of effortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by his dalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes, including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive the the larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcending meditation.
 

 I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

 

 I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge 
- the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".
 


 

 

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 
  

 Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community. 

 In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?
 

 HAHA, excellent question.
 

 (I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I 
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)
 

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a 
coincidence?
 
 
   
 Yes, a grace.   A type of blessing not uncommon when it is looked for in 
cultivated people.  Helpful where used for others as transformation that can 
come as a spiritual fruit of spiritual cultivation, the capacity to help 
others.  We have seen it in Fairfield.  It can be just field effect of 
spiritual capacity or be wielded intended as a prakriti vector in a flow of 
shakti, a good vibration and is not necessarily uncommon.
 

 It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is 
not the only one around with that grace. 
 

 -JaiGuruYou!
 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's a  miracle (smile).

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Yes, the guidelines are the best we have for this regardless of the attendance 
numbers and attrition in our group or any other reasoning why people are not 
meditating in the group anymore. The science says that we as TM meditators 
clearly have increased moral reasoning and this is ultimately about morality 
and choices of what people have done. Some people just do not qualify to be in 
the group. Trust our Rajas to administrate this correctly, -JaiGuruYou
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think you're right. My original question was merely tongue in cheek. 
However, on my six month age of enlightenment course, M seemed to get a bit 
irritated with one fellow that referred to his catholic faith more than once. 
Seems after one such reference is when I remember M saying *THIS*(TM, age of 
enlightenment program) should be your religion.
 

 From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?
 
 
   I doubt very much if going to see the pope would result in not being able to 
get a dome badge in Fairfield. The very idea seems ridiculous. After, all, we 
do have a Liberal Catholic Church in FF that is made up mostly of TMers, some 
of whom go to the dome. I think the movement has always honored the practice of 
one's own religion. 

 


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Mam, the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a job to 
do. If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniques then he has 
some 'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have to find three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him. It is just the way it works 
here now. Procedure. Was he part of that Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and 
is selling and teaching it bootleg as “Centering Prayer”? 
  
 Like others in his position he'd have some 'splainin' to do. Recently they 
been having people swear an oath that they would stop seeing saints and 
teachers like him. The Pope simply is not in a good position to get a valid 
badge to meditate with the group. -JaiGuruYou
 

 Hilarious, thanks for this. All I can say is the Movement in FF should be 
very, very thankful I don't live there. Do I want to go to the Dome? No. Would 
I like to raise shit? Yes. Why? Because I love seeing tightwads squirm a little.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Son, the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have had the Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for a Dome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read them directly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up on campus. He works for and promotes an organization that teaches spiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
 
 
 The TM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badge by our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actually fortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get a meditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown in Fairfield. 
 
 
 The Rajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved about this 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice of effortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by his dalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes, including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive the the larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcending meditation.
 

 I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

 

 I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge 
- the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".
 


 

 

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 
  

 Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come to 
TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green 
cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has 
some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved 
to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years 
TM has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 

  TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 

 When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.
 There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or flatten to a 
degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... These are the steps of 
progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. The 1% rule is limiting 
our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations 
rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.
 If TM were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.
 $250 dollars for a nike shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 

 MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG 
TERM TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time we may now begin speaking about greater genius, greater creativity, and 
greater goodness in the light of science. 

 Envy or jealously may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over the edge, 
into desiring more than what they have. When the masses begin to see results 
manifest in other people who do TM, they will wake to the realization; this is 
my knowledge, not India's.
 It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, resulting from TM. Start the 
process, it will unfold over time. 

 

 Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which protected 
and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of this teaching should 
be protected and maintained behind closed doors. Emphasis should be placed upon 
western thought.  As this knowledge spreads over time, if it is successful, 
than Western man will re package this technique in the light of their language. 
Only then will the masses take hold to the degree, it should.
 

 I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not attached 
to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for contemplation. Focus on 
the reach, not the weakness of each word or phrase. What I write is not truth, 
but relative impressions of the moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes 
nothing. Do better than I; I am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. 
Even I, as dull as I am, can see imperfection.
 Dave Ryan

 

 

 


 On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't going 
to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even Maharishi 
focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There is no 
need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about creating a 
catalyst. "do less and accomplish more".
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to

[FairfieldLife] Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Son, the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned
TM and is a meditator. In process I have had the Dome badge guidelines read to
me numerous times in applying for a Dome badge and I have very recently been
able to read them directly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on
up on campus. He works for and promotes an organization that teaches spiritual
practices. Flat out.

The TM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badge by our
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actually fortified around this.
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get a meditator's badge to meditate with in
the meditation room downtown in Fairfield.

The Rajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved about this
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice of effortless meditation
would evidently have been corrupted by his dalliance with this and that mindful
praying and other meditation. Yes, including him in the group transcendence
meditation could be counter-productive the the larger group effect of group
practice of authentic transcending meditation.

I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify. That is how it
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge.
-JaiGuruYou!

srijau writes: This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?

HAHA, excellent question.

(I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)

It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is
not the only one around with that grace.

-JaiGuruYou!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

It's a miracle (smile).

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

This caught my attention:

Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

View on www.usatoday.com
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify. That is how it
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge.
-JaiGuruYou!

I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge
- the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".

srijau writes: This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?

HAHA, excellent question.

(I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)

It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is
not the only one around with that grace.

-JaiGuruYou!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

It's a miracle (smile).

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

This caught my attention:

Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

View on www.usatoday.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I'm liking Ann more and more each day!

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:03 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Mam,the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a jobto do. 
If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniquesthen he has some 
'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have tofind three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him.It is just the way it works here 
now. Procedure. Was he part ofthat Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and is 
selling and teaching it bootleg as“Centering Prayer”?  Like others in his 
position he'd have some'splainin' to do. Recently they been having people swear 
an oaththat they would stop seeing saints and teachers like him. The Popesimply 
is not in a good position to get a valid badge to meditatewith the group. 
-JaiGuruYou
Hilarious, thanks for this. All I can say is the Movement in FF should be very, 
very thankful I don't live there. Do I want to go to the Dome? No. Would I like 
to raise shit? Yes. Why? Because I love seeing tightwads squirm a little.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Son,the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have hadthe Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for aDome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read themdirectly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up oncampus. He works for and promotes an organization that teachesspiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
TheTM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badgeby our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actuallyfortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get ameditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown inFairfield. 
TheRajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved aboutthis 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice ofeffortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by hisdalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes,including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive thethe larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcendingmeditation.
I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here.Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge - 
the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 

Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community.
In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?
HAHA, excellent question.
(I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I 
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)

  From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a 
coincidence?

 Yes, a grace.   A type of blessing not uncommon when it is looked for in 
cultivated people.  Helpful where used for others as transformation that can 
come as a spiritual fruit of spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread feste37

I doubt very much if going to see the pope would result in not being able to 
get a dome badge in Fairfield. The very idea seems ridiculous. After, all, we 
do have a Liberal Catholic Church in FF that is made up mostly of TMers, some 
of whom go to the dome. I think the movement has always honored the practice of 
one's own religion. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Mam, the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a job to 
do. If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniques then he has 
some 'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have to find three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him. It is just the way it works 
here now. Procedure. Was he part of that Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and 
is selling and teaching it bootleg as “Centering Prayer”? 
  
 Like others in his position he'd have some 'splainin' to do. Recently they 
been having people swear an oath that they would stop seeing saints and 
teachers like him. The Pope simply is not in a good position to get a valid 
badge to meditate with the group. -JaiGuruYou
 

 Hilarious, thanks for this. All I can say is the Movement in FF should be 
very, very thankful I don't live there. Do I want to go to the Dome? No. Would 
I like to raise shit? Yes. Why? Because I love seeing tightwads squirm a little.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Son, the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have had the Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for a Dome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read them directly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up on campus. He works for and promotes an organization that teaches spiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
 
 
 The TM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badge by our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actually fortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get a meditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown in Fairfield. 
 
 
 The Rajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved about this 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice of effortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by his dalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes, including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive the the larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcending meditation.
 

 I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

 

 I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge 
- the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".
 


 

 

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 
  

 Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community. 

 In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?
 

 HAHA, excellent question.
 

 (I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I 
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)
 

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Thanks for your replys, apparantely it's just between you and I. Yes I am just 
throwing it out for people to chew on; I see more people are referring toTM as 
a step to enlightenment. It takes time; generations, I believe, for a concept 
to take hold. Maybe quicker with TM.
I do appreciate your allowing me to chat a bit on the blog. I was hopeful other 
people would read the book and comment a bit, but thats not hapenning. I have 
another proposal for you ...I was planning to go with some advertising campaign 
on some of the social platforms. Spend a couple hundred dollars on advertising. 
I had the idea, why not spend the money on gifting to People that can relate to 
the experience of transcending. This book writing was a project, I had wished 
would provide me with some comment and feedback... to fill my days with a bit 
of passion in writing.
There is an option on amazon to gift books to others on line. I haven't checked 
out the details of how to do so, but I am sure there is a way I could send the 
book for free to others who view this option on your blog.That may get you into 
trouble, with the guidelines, not filtering all work through the leaders of the 
TM org.That would be your call, you could read it and then decide if it would 
pass judgement.
It makes no sence for me to continue on this site, since I am not a participant 
of the community. My interest: feedback on the book. 
There are a few serious negative blog sites out there bashing the TM movement. 
I am an expression of what Maharishi wished for...an individual, regularily 
practicing TM, in the light of one's discipline. This is an art book, poetic, 
visually stimulating transcendental art; a subjective experience of meditating 
artist in activity: a positive fresh approach to understanding the one's value, 
and benefit of this meditation. 

Unless u have another suggestion, I will move on, but I do appreciate the 
effortthanks...let me know what you decide
Dave Ryan



 


 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:23 AM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People 
come to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 
'green cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world 
has some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved to: 
readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years TM 
has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 
 TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.There is a major shift, again with TM under the 
watch of David Lynch Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will 
subside or flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. 
The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  
Why not? Corporations rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.If TM 
were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.$250 dollars for a nike 
shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG TERM 
TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I trust a *raja* about as far as I can throw Ganesh.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

    Yes,the guidelines are the best we have for this regardless of 
theattendance numbers and attrition in our group or any other reasoningwhy 
people are not meditating in the group anymore. The science saysthat we as TM 
meditators clearly have increased moral reasoning andthis is ultimately about 
morality and choices of what people havedone. Some people just do not qualify 
to be in the group. Trustour Rajas to administrate this correctly, -JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I think you're right. My original question was merely tongue in cheek. However, 
on my six month age of enlightenment course, M seemed to get a bit irritated 
with one fellow that referred to his catholic faith more than once. Seems after 
one such reference is when I remember M saying *THIS*(TM, age of enlightenment 
program) should be your religion.
  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

 I doubt very much if going to see the pope would result in not being able to 
get a dome badge in Fairfield. The very idea seems ridiculous. After, all, we 
do have a Liberal Catholic Church in FF that is made up mostly of TMers, some 
of whom go to the dome. I think the movement has always honored the practice of 
one's own religion. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Mam,the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a jobto do. 
If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniquesthen he has some 
'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have tofind three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him.It is just the way it works here 
now. Procedure. Was he part ofthat Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and is 
selling and teaching it bootleg as“Centering Prayer”?  Like others in his 
position he'd have some'splainin' to do. Recently they been having people swear 
an oaththat they would stop seeing saints and teachers like him. The Popesimply 
is not in a good position to get a valid badge to meditatewith the group. 
-JaiGuruYou
Hilarious, thanks for this. All I can say is the Movement in FF should be very, 
very thankful I don't live there. Do I want to go to the Dome? No. Would I like 
to raise shit? Yes. Why? Because I love seeing tightwads squirm a little.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Son,the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have hadthe Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for aDome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read themdirectly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up oncampus. He works for and promotes an organization that teachesspiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
TheTM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badgeby our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actuallyfortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get ameditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown inFairfield. 
TheRajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved aboutthis 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice ofeffortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by hisdalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes,including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive thethe larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcendingmeditation.
I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here.Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge - 
the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 

Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

I've been saying this for years here on FFL.  In the 1970s, people's 
lifestyles allowed for nightly meetings and the 7 step teaching method.  
TM seems to be stuck in the 1970s while other schools of meditation will 
offer weekend courses much more accessible to people current 
lifestyles.  They are also not priced out of reason.  And TM really is 
"yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned elsewhere.  Back in 
the 70s this was all too new to the general public and a giggling guru 
quite a novelty.


On 09/26/2015 05:01 AM, Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has 
evolved to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: 
for 50 plus years TM has been associated with a meditation created 
from India. Most all people in the western world perceives this 
knowledge as outside their world.*Subsciously,* most westerners see TM 
and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, a foreign 
design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western 
thinking. The great minds of western science, art,... all western 
discipline may incorporate this knowledge of life, (conceived in 
India) into a construct of western thought.
 TM *today*, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is 
still**thought to be an Eastern construct with some, scientific 
validation. And because of this perception, millions of people will 
still resist this meditation because of its association to Eastern 
thought.
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as 
something*one needs* for betterment of self. People buy this product 
because of its projective value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. 
Subsciously, most everybody, views TM outside their comfort circle.
There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or 
flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the ! steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over 
generations. The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach 
beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations rely on impacting 
larger percentages for survival.

If TM were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.
$250 dollars for a nike shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys.
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL 
LONG TERM TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, 
BEGIN TO START TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS 
ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of 
stress, out of control and at the same time we may now begin speaking 
about greater genius, greater creativity, and greater goodness in the 
light of science.
*Envy or jealously *may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over 
the edge, into desiring more than what they have. When the masses 
begin to see results manifest in other people who do TM, they will 
wake to the realization; this is my knowledge, not India's.
It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, resulting from TM. 
Start the process, it will unfold over time.


Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which 
protected and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of 
this teaching should be protected and maintained behind closed doors. 
Emphasis should be placed upon western thought.  As this knowledge 
spreads over time, if it is successful, than Western man will re 
package this technique in the light of their language. Only then will 
the masses take hold! to the degree, it should.


I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not 
attached to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for 
contemplation. Focus on the reach, not the weakness of each word or 
phrase. What I write is not truth, but relative impressions of the 
moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes nothing. Do better than I; I 
am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. Even I, as dull as 
I am, can see imperfection.

Dave Ryan




On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't 
going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. 
Even Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's 
evolution. There is no need for 99% or more of the population to 
meditate. It is all about creating a catalyst. "do less and accomplish 
more".


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a 
gateway to God, they would stand in line to learn it."


This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my 
point made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.
What I said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


They spotted Donald Trump campaigning on Mars.

On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this 
coming Monday.  Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?



NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) 






image 
 




NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) 
 

NASA has made a major Mars discovery. The "major science finding" will 
be announced in a special news conference on Monday by the space 
agency. From...


View on www.rickey.org 
 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Hi, Thanks for sharing your ideas. I am not really a big reader, nor do I have 
any association with the TM organization, so I am not the one to evaluate your 
writing further, or make a proposition to the TMers. That said, I wish you all 
the best with your pursuits. No doubt you have learned a great deal about 
yourself while writing the book. 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for your replys, apparantely it's just between you and I. Yes I am just 
throwing it out for people to chew on; I see more people are referring toTM as 
a step to enlightenment. It takes time; generations, I believe, for a concept 
to take hold. Maybe quicker with TM.
 

 I do appreciate your allowing me to chat a bit on the blog. I was hopeful 
other people would read the book and comment a bit, but thats not hapenning. I 
have another proposal for you ...I was planning to go with some advertising 
campaign on some of the social platforms. Spend a couple hundred dollars on 
advertising.
 I had the idea, why not spend the money on gifting to People that can relate 
to the experience of transcending. This book writing was a project, I had 
wished would provide me with some comment and feedback... to fill my days with 
a bit of passion in writing.
 

 There is an option on amazon to gift books to others on line. I haven't 
checked out the details of how to do so, but I am sure there is a way I could 
send the book for free to others who view this option on your blog.
 That may get you into trouble, with the guidelines, not filtering all work 
through the leaders of the TM org.
 That would be your call, you could read it and then decide if it would pass 
judgement.
 

 It makes no sence for me to continue on this site, since I am not a 
participant of the community. My interest: feedback on the book. 

 There are a few serious negative blog sites out there bashing the TM movement. 
I am an expression of what Maharishi wished for...an individual, regularily 
practicing TM, in the light of one's discipline. This is an art book, poetic, 
visually stimulating transcendental art; a subjective experience of meditating 
artist in activity: a positive fresh approach to understanding the one's value, 
and benefit of this meditation. 

 

 Unless u have another suggestion, I will move on, but I do appreciate the 
effort
 thanks...let me know what you decide
 

 Dave Ryan

 


 

 
 
 


 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:23 AM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come 
to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green 
cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has 
some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved 
to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years 
TM has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 

  TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 

 When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.
 There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or flatten to a 
degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... These are the steps of 
progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. The 1% rule is limiting 
our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations

[FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

2015-09-26 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

The Bulgarian Orthodox Church says so.  The church fears that it's a Muslim 
invasion.  One wonders if ISIS had orchestrated this mass migration in the 
first place.  Is that possible?
 

 Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Orthodox Church 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html
 
 
 Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Or... 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html
 Bulgaria's Orthodox Church has called on its government not to let any more 
Muslim refugees into the country to prevent an "invasion". The Balkan EU m...
 
 
 
 View on news.yahoo.com 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a coincidence?

2015-09-26 Thread srijau

This Pope does TM.  His friend Father Meijia teaches the TM-Sidhis to Catholic 
orphans and young offenders. Your comments are disconnected from reality.
Catholic Priest Uses Transcendental Meditation To Help Orphans In Latin America 
| Transcendental Meditation® Blog 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/catholic-priest-transcendental-meditation-orphans-latin-america/
 
 
 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/catholic-priest-transcendental-meditation-orphans-latin-america/
 
 
 Catholic Priest Uses Transcendental Meditation ... 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/catholic-priest-transcendental-meditation-orphans-latin-america/
 Catholic priest Father Gabriel Mejia, founder of Fundacion Hogares Claret uses 
Transcendental Meditation to help orphans in Latin America. - Video
 
 
 
 View on www.tm.org 
http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/catholic-priest-transcendental-meditation-orphans-latin-america/
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

A nice way to alienate a large portion of the world fro ever learning TM.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Son,the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have hadthe Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for aDome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read themdirectly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up oncampus. He works for and promotes an organization that teachesspiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
TheTM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badgeby our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actuallyfortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get ameditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown inFairfield. 
TheRajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved aboutthis 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice ofeffortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by hisdalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes,including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive thethe larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcendingmeditation.
I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here.Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge - 
the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 

Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community.
In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?
HAHA, excellent question.
(I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I 
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)

  From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a 
coincidence?

 Yes, a grace.   A type of blessing not uncommon when it is looked for in 
cultivated people.  Helpful where used for others as transformation that can 
come as a spiritual fruit of spiritual cultivation, the capacity to help 
others.  We have seen it in Fairfield.  It can be just field effect of 
spiritual capacity or be wielded intended as a prakriti vector in a flow of 
shakti, a good vibration and is not necessarily uncommon.
It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is 
not the only one around with that grace.     
-JaiGuruYou!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's a  miracle (smile).  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This caught my attention:
Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing

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healed our baby's heart." Lynn Cassidy has no other words to explain what 
happened to her 3-month-old daughter Ave. |  |
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[FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this coming 
Monday.  Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?
 

 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) 
http://www.rickey.org/nasa-makes-major-mars-discovery/286026/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+rickeyorg+%28Rickey.org%29

 
 
 
http://www.rickey.org/nasa-makes-major-mars-discovery/286026/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+rickeyorg+%28Rickey.org%29
 
 
 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) 
http://www.rickey.org/nasa-makes-major-mars-discovery/286026/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+rickeyorg+%28Rickey.org%29
 NASA has made a major Mars discovery. The "major science finding" will be 
announced in a special news conference on Monday by the space agency. From...
 
 
 
 View on www.rickey.org 
http://www.rickey.org/nasa-makes-major-mars-discovery/286026/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+rickeyorg+%28Rickey.org%29
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was well 
researched.  

 I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we 
have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On 
the one hand, decrying the public be-headings by ISIS, while on the other, 
blowing the heads, arms, and legs off large segments of the populations we 
attack.  

 Hypocrisy, anyone?  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
 

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

[FairfieldLife] Britain: it's a free country isn't it?

2015-09-26 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

It's not looking good. Three stories have surfaced during the past couple of 
days show how the UK is becoming a fearful place . . .
 

 1) Maryam Namazie – a secular campaigner and founder of the Council of 
Ex-Muslims – has been blocked from speaking at the University of Warwick, 
because she “could incite hatred on campus” and “insult” religion. Iranian-born 
Namazie is a feminist who opposes Islamic fundamentalism, sharia law, gender 
segregation and the burka, which she describes as a “tool used to oppress 
women.” The Council of Ex-Muslims organises to assist people who leave Islam, 
who frequently find their lives in grave danger due to Islamic apostasy laws, 
which call for the murder of apostates. The UK's National Secular Society has 
condemned the decision.
 

 2) A hospital has apologised after an injured Royal Air Force sergeant was 
moved out of a waiting room because staff thought his uniform would “upset” 
other patients. His family was allegedly told it was because they “have lots of 
different cultures coming in.” Reports suggest the Mark Prendeville, 38, was 
asked to sit behind a wall. Sergeant Prendeville was attending the Accident and 
Emergency department at Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother Hospital in Margate, 
Kent, after chemicals from a fire extinguisher got in to his eyes during a 
training exercise. Veterans and military figures last night slammed the 
hospital’s treatment of the serviceman, who has been to Iraq and Afghanistan.
 

 3) A piece of satirical artwork mocking Islamic State (IS) has been removed 
from a free-speech event(!) in London, after police warned it was 
“inflammatory.” The Syrian-born Jewish artist behind the work said she created 
it to challenge the idea that tackling extremism is somehow “racist”. The name 
of the work is Isis Threaten Sylvania. It consists of a series of seven models 
in light boxes, depicting scenes reminiscent of recent terrorist attacks. The 
model featuring children’s soft toys called the Sylvanian Families, who are 
being stalked by other heavily armed soft toys called “MICE IS.” However, the 
work was removed from the Passion for Freedom exhibition at the Mall galleries 
in London after police raised concerns about its “potentially inflammatory 
content”.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

John, there are a number of those videos out there. The pope wouldn't be the 
Anti-Christ, but possibly his prophet, if one was inclined to believe that 
scenario. Another video suggested that Pope Pius, who also  had access to the 
letters, warned of Apostasy to come, within the Church.  The letter 
specifically says that the true doctrine of the church would remain in 
Portugal, suggesting not in the rest of the world, including the Vatican. John 
23rd oversaw Vatican 2 which some say is where this apostasy begins.  Did his 
neglect to publish the letter have something to do with the Vatican 2 
ecumenical council?  I'm not catholic and could care less about it's doctrine. 
I just fined it interesting that all these things seem to be coming to fruition 
at this particular time. Who knows? Revelation talks about the apostasy of the 
church in end times. 

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 5:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby
   
    MD,
The third message of the Fatima, from the the YouTube video I watched, was that 
the anti-christ will come as the pope.  So, it is no wonder that Pope John 23 
did not give homage to it.  Some people were suspecting that he was a member of 
the Masons.  Some people were also speculating that the ecumenical council 
proclamations were the work of the devil.  I personally don't believe any of 
these speculations.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm not Catholic so I know very little about some things that I've been hearing 
but they sound quit dire. We've all heard of the letters of Fatima  but know 
little of what was in them. The third letter of Fatima was supposed to be 
published in 1960 but Pope John23 refused, it was supposed to be absolutely 
horrifying. Later, another appearance occurred in Italy and a warning was that 
since this letter was not published that many Bishops, priests, cardinals etc, 
were leading the church into perdition. There is also prophecy that this is the 
last Pope.  Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the 
one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the 
Anti -Christ. Time will tell. The fourth blood Moon is tomorrow. We are now in 
the year of Jubilee, a great time for those in the will of God but all hell 
could break out for the rest. May you live in interesting times.
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby
 
 This remark that the Pope keeps making , "Please pray for me", is very 
interesting. Does he know something that most of us don't know?



  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby
 
 
Emily,
That was great article.  Thanks.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :





What John Boehner told me the night before he said he was quitting
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|  | |  | What John Boehner told me the night before he said he... The 
House speaker reflects on the papal visit: “He said, ‘Please pray for me.’ ” |  
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I was just going to post the resignation of Speaker John Boehner.  Apparently, 
the heat among the Republicans must be getting too hot.  It's likely that the 
Tea Party members are pushing him to vote for a shutdown of the government.  
But some of the hard-line Republicans seemingly haven't learned a lesson from 
the last government shutdown.
I personally think Boehner was hit by the 'Pope Effect'.

GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of October
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|  | |  | GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of O... 
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a stunning move, House Speaker John Boehner informed 
Republicans that he would step down at the end of October. |  |
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Down one Republican cry baby. ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Ed6SlrUYQ
 



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[FairfieldLife] Native americans

2015-09-26 Thread srijau

an honest accurate account of native/settler relations for anyone who wants to 
understand the truth rather than listen to or be a ignorant racist crank

 By Thomas King The Inconvenient Indian: A Curious Account of Native People in 
North America: Amazon.com: Books 
http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-King-Inconvenient-Indian-Curious/dp/B00N4IF5AA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8=1443314925=8-3=thomas+king+the+inconvenient+indian

 
 
 
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 By Thomas King The Inconvenient Indian: A Curious Account of Native People in 
North America
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Who is the Mr. Science you're referring to?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well we know they aren't going to say they've found life on Mars because our 
Mr. Science confirms there is no other intelligent life in the universe. :-D 
 
 On 09/26/2015 10:17 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   Trump has Mars on his lagna.  So, in a subtle way, he is a Martian here on 
earth, although most people don't know it.  And, he is campaigning like a 
Martian.

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 They spotted Donald Trump campaigning on Mars.
 
 On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this coming 
Monday.  Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?
 
 
 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)
 
 
 
 
 
 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) NASA has made a major Mars discovery. 
The "major science finding" will be announced in a special news conference on 
Monday by the space agency. From...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Given that "christ" means one anointed with the spirit which is what 
happens when one starts to experience then the "anti-christ" would be 
ignorance.  By that terminology there are probably more than a few 
"christs" in the world and probably a few right here on FFL.  Don't 
expect walking on water though unless they've practiced and perfected 
that siddhi.


The problem of the idea of "one world order" is "whose" world order is 
it going to be?  If it's the people's then great otherwise no because it 
will be the purview of a few narcissist assholes.


On 09/26/2015 02:31 PM, emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Re: "Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating 
the one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the 
mark of the Anti -Christ."



Mike, assuming your mind and heart are not closed and that your 
thought process retains flexibility and hesitates to assume that your 
opinion is necessarily right, when the transcript comes out, read his 
speech given at Independence Hall in Philly today (or watch it in a 
re-run on CSPAN).  It is the exact opposite of what you say here and 
was stated purposefully, intelligently, and compassionately.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm not Catholic so I know very little about some things that I've 
been hearing but they sound quit dire. We've all heard of the letters 
of Fatima  but know little of what was in them. The third letter of 
Fatima was supposed to be published in 1960 but Pope John23 refused, 
it was supposed to be absolutely horrifying. Later, another appearance 
occurred in Italy and a warning was that since this letter was not 
published that many Bishops, priests, cardinals etc, were leading the 
church into perdition. There is also prophecy that this is the last 
Pope.  Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating 
the one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the 
mark of the Anti -Christ. Time will tell. The fourth blood Moon is 
tomorrow. We are now in the year of Jubilee, a great time for those in 
the will of God but all hell could break out for the rest. May you 
live in interesting times.



*From:* "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" 
*Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:34 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

This remark that the Pope keeps making , "Please pray for me", is very 
interesting. Does he know something that most of us don't know?





*From:* "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:12 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby


Emily,

That was great article.  Thanks.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :





What John Boehner told me the night before he said he was quitting 
 





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What John Boehner told me the night before he said he... 
 

The House speaker reflects on the papal visit: “He said, ‘Please pray 
for me.’ ”


View on www.washingtonpost... 



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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I was just going to post the resignation of Speaker John Boehner. 
 Apparently, the heat among the Republicans must be getting too hot. 
 It's likely that the Tea Party members are pushing him to vote for a 
shutdown of the government.  But some of the hard-line Republicans 
seemingly haven't learned a lesson from the last government shutdown.


I personally think Boehner was hit by the 'Pope Effect'.

GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of October 
 





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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marxist Pope

2015-09-26 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


So the Pope doesn't live up to your fascist standards? 

 

 Said like a true Marxist …which just proves my point.
 

 Following the defeat of the Axis Powers 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_Powers in World War II, the term fascist has 
been used as a pejorative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pejorative word, often 
referring to widely varying movements across the political spectrum. George 
Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless 
... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'". 
Richard Griffiths said in 2005 that "fascism" is the "most misused, and 
over-used word, of our times". "Fascist" is sometimes applied to post-war 
organizations and ways of thinking that academics more commonly term 
"neo-fascist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism;.
 

 Contrary to the popular use of the term, Communist states have sometimes been 
referred to as "fascist", typically as an insult. Marxist interpretations of 
the term have, for example, been applied in relation to Cuba under Fidel Castro 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro and Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho_Chi_Minh. Herbert Matthews, of the New York 
Times asked "Should we now place Stalinist Russia in the same category as 
Hitlerite Germany? Should we say that she is Fascist?" J. Edgar Hoover 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover wrote extensively of "Red 
Fascism". Chinese Marxists used the term to denounce the Soviet Union during 
the Sino-Soviet Split, and likewise, the Soviets used the term to identify 
Chinese Marxists and social democracy (coining a new term of "social fascism").
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 So the Pope doesn't live up to your fascist standards?  I just got bored with 
the distraction as there was much more going on in the world last week.
 
 On 09/26/2015 11:54 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   
 Seven Ways Pope Francis Slapped Conservatives in the United States
 By Ben Shapiro, 25 Sep 2015
 Many conservatives viewed the prospect of the Pope’s visit to the United 
States with a mixture of hope and trepidation: hope, because the Pope’s visit 
would force heavy media coverage of religious issues; trepidation, because of 
Pope Francis’ mixed record on issues ranging from climate change to illegal 
immigration.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Emily, I'll listen to anything he has to say out of curiosity, with an open 
mind and heart but quite frankly, I'm not Catholic and will take anything he 
has to say with a grain of salt. However, there sure seems to be a *stir* about 
him and his role during these times.

  From: "emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

    Re: "Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the 
one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the 
Anti -Christ."
Mike, assuming your mind and heart are not closed and that your thought process 
retains flexibility and hesitates to assume that your opinion is necessarily 
right, when the transcript comes out, read his speech given at Independence 
Hall in Philly today (or watch it in a re-run on CSPAN).  It is the exact 
opposite of what you say here and was stated purposefully, intelligently, and 
compassionately.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm not Catholic so I know very little about some things that I've been hearing 
but they sound quit dire. We've all heard of the letters of Fatima  but know 
little of what was in them. The third letter of Fatima was supposed to be 
published in 1960 but Pope John23 refused, it was supposed to be absolutely 
horrifying. Later, another appearance occurred in Italy and a warning was that 
since this letter was not published that many Bishops, priests, cardinals etc, 
were leading the church into perdition. There is also prophecy that this is the 
last Pope.  Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the 
one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the 
Anti -Christ. Time will tell. The fourth blood Moon is tomorrow. We are now in 
the year of Jubilee, a great time for those in the will of God but all hell 
could break out for the rest. May you live in interesting times.
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

 This remark that the Pope keeps making , "Please pray for me", is very 
interesting. Does he know something that most of us don't know?

  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

Emily,
That was great article.  Thanks.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What John Boehner told me the night before he said he was quitting
|  |
|  | |  | What John Boehner told me the night before he said he... The 
House speaker reflects on the papal visit: “He said, ‘Please pray for me.’ ” |  
|
|View on www.washingtonpost...  |   Preview by Yahoo  |
|  |

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I was just going to post the resignation of Speaker John Boehner.  Apparently, 
the heat among the Republicans must be getting too hot.  It's likely that the 
Tea Party members are pushing him to vote for a shutdown of the government.  
But some of the hard-line Republicans seemingly haven't learned a lesson from 
the last government shutdown.
I personally think Boehner was hit by the 'Pope Effect'.

GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of October
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Down one Republican cry baby. ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Ed6SlrUYQ

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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marxist Pope

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]


@_@
Yes, "fascist" is often used when "authoritarian" should be used. But I 
don't think you are "authoritarian" but rather favor the magic 
capitalists running the show instead of the people.  Thus that makes you 
a fascist because the meaning came from the situation of big business 
taking over government to run a country.  Ask Donald Trump about that.


On 09/26/2015 02:54 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:



So the Pope doesn't live up to your fascist standards?

*
*

*Said like a true Marxist …which just proves my point.*

*
*

/Following the defeat of the Axis Powers 
 in World War II 
, the term fascist has 
been used as a pejorative  
word, often referring to widely varying movements across the political 
spectrum. George Orwell  
wrote in 1944 that "the word 'Fascism' is almost entirely 
meaningless ... almost any English person would accept 'bully' as a 
synonym for 'Fascist'". Richard Griffiths said in 2005 that "fascism" 
is the "most misused, and over-used word, of our times". "Fascist" is 
sometimes applied to post-war organizations and ways of thinking that 
academics more commonly term "neo-fascist 
"./


/
/

/Contrary to the popular use of the term, Communist states have 
sometimes been referred to as "fascist", typically as an insult. 
Marxist interpretations of the term have, for example, been applied in 
relation to /Cuba under /Fidel Castro 
 and Vietnam 
 under Ho Chi Minh 
. Herbert Matthews, of the 
New York Times  asked 
"Should we now place Stalinist Russia in the same category as 
Hitlerite Germany? Should we say that she is Fascist?" J. Edgar Hoover 
 wrote extensively of 
"Red Fascism". Chinese Marxists used the term to denounce the Soviet 
Union during the Sino-Soviet Split 
, and likewise, the 
Soviets used the term to identify Chinese Marxists and social 
democracy  (coining a 
new term of "social fascism 
")./






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So the Pope doesn't live up to your fascist standards?  I just got 
bored with the distraction as there was much more going on in the 
world last week.


On 09/26/2015 11:54 AM, emptybill@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:


*Seven Ways Pope Francis Slapped Conservatives in the United States*

By Ben Shapiro , 25 Sep 
2015


*Many conservatives viewed the prospect of the Pope’s visit to the 
United States with a mixture of hope and trepidation: hope, because 
the Pope’s visit would force heavy media coverage of religious 
issues; trepidation, because of Pope Francis’ mixed record on issues 
ranging from climate change to illegal immigration.*

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marxist Pope

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Fascism, centralization of authority,a dictatorship, in a capitalistic economy 
with heavy government controls and suppression of opposition in the form of 
liberalism, communism and conservatism .
 From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 5:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marxist Pope

 @_@ 
 Yes, "fascist" is often used when "authoritarian" should be used.  But I don't 
think you are "authoritarian" but rather favor the magic capitalists running 
the show instead of the people.  Thus that makes you a fascist because the 
meaning came from the situation of big business taking over government to run a 
country.  Ask Donald Trump about that.

 On 09/26/2015 02:54 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 So the Pope doesn't live up to your fascist standards? 

  Said like a true Marxist …which just proves my point. 
  Following the defeat of the Axis Powers in World War II, the term fascist has 
been used as a pejorative word, often referring to widely varying movements 
across the political spectrum. George Orwell wrote in 1944 that "the word 
'Fascism' is almost entirely meaningless ... almost any English person would 
accept 'bully' as a synonym for 'Fascist'". Richard Griffiths said in 2005 that 
"fascism" is the "most misused, and over-used word, of our times". "Fascist" is 
sometimes applied to post-war organizations and ways of thinking that academics 
more commonly term "neo-fascist". 
  Contrary to the popular use of the term, Communist states have sometimes been 
referred to as "fascist", typically as an insult. Marxist interpretations of 
the term have, for example, been applied in relation to Cuba under Fidel Castro 
and Vietnam under Ho Chi Minh. Herbert Matthews, of the New York Times asked 
"Should we now place Stalinist Russia in the same category as Hitlerite 
Germany? Should we say that she is Fascist?" J. Edgar Hoover wrote extensively 
of "Red Fascism". Chinese Marxists used the term to denounce the Soviet Union 
during the Sino-Soviet Split, and likewise, the Soviets used the term to 
identify Chinese Marxists and social democracy (coining a new term of "social 
fascism").     

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  So the Pope doesn't live up to your fascist standards?  I just got bored with 
the distraction as there was much more going on in the world last week.

 On 09/26/2015 11:54 AM, emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

    Seven Ways Pope Francis Slapped Conservatives in the United States By Ben 
Shapiro, 25 Sep 2015 Manyconservatives viewed the prospect of the Pope’s visit 
to the United States with a mixture of hope and trepidation: hope, because the 
Pope’s visit would force heavy media coverage of religious issues; trepidation, 
because of Pope Francis’ mixed record on issues ranging from climate  change to 
illegal immigration. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

He didn't coin the term. It's an old saying. The one time I remember him using 
it, was in reference to analysis of experiences in meditation, during the three 
days of checking. As far as Yogic Flyers accomplishing anything meaningful, 
we're still waiting.

  From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    'takes a thorn to remove a thorn he was talking about his own TM Movement. 
Nowadays we can create big groups of Yogic Flyers, there is no need to bomb 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Britain: it's a free country isn't it?

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Amazing! I see where only a fraction of the refugees invading Europe are from 
Syria.

  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:17 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Britain: it's a free country isn't it?

    It's not looking good. Three stories have surfaced during the past couple 
of days show how the UK is becoming a fearful place . . .
1) Maryam Namazie – a secular campaigner and founder of the Council of 
Ex-Muslims – has been blocked from speaking at the University of Warwick, 
because she “could incite hatred on campus” and “insult” religion. Iranian-born 
Namazie is a feminist who opposes Islamic fundamentalism, sharia law, gender 
segregation and the burka, which she describes as a “tool used to oppress 
women.” The Council of Ex-Muslims organises to assist people who leave Islam, 
who frequently find their lives in grave danger due to Islamic apostasy laws, 
which call for the murder of apostates. The UK's National Secular Society has 
condemned the decision.
2) A hospital has apologised after an injured Royal Air Force sergeant was 
moved out of a waiting room because staff thought his uniform would “upset” 
other patients. His family was allegedly told it was because they “have lots of 
different cultures coming in.” Reports suggest the Mark Prendeville, 38, was 
asked to sit behind a wall. Sergeant Prendeville was attending the Accident and 
Emergency department at Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother Hospital in Margate, 
Kent, after chemicals from a fire extinguisher got in to his eyes during a 
training exercise. Veterans and military figures last night slammed the 
hospital’s treatment of the serviceman, who has been to Iraq and Afghanistan.
3) A piece of satirical artwork mocking Islamic State (IS) has been removed 
from a free-speech event(!) in London, after police warned it was 
“inflammatory.” The Syrian-born Jewish artist behind the work said she created 
it to challenge the idea that tackling extremism is somehow “racist”. The name 
of the work is Isis Threaten Sylvania. It consists of a series of seven models 
in light boxes, depicting scenes reminiscent of recent terrorist attacks. The 
model featuring children’s soft toys called the Sylvanian Families, who are 
being stalked by other heavily armed soft toys called “MICE IS.” However, the 
work was removed from the Passion for Freedom exhibition at the Mall galleries 
in London after police raised concerns about its “potentially inflammatory 
content”.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Britain: it's a free country isn't it?

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I once thought that if things went to hell in the US, that people might be 
inclined to leave and return to there ancestral home land. Mine would be Great 
Britain.I guess that's out the window!

  From: "s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:17 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Britain: it's a free country isn't it?

    It's not looking good. Three stories have surfaced during the past couple 
of days show how the UK is becoming a fearful place . . .
1) Maryam Namazie – a secular campaigner and founder of the Council of 
Ex-Muslims – has been blocked from speaking at the University of Warwick, 
because she “could incite hatred on campus” and “insult” religion. Iranian-born 
Namazie is a feminist who opposes Islamic fundamentalism, sharia law, gender 
segregation and the burka, which she describes as a “tool used to oppress 
women.” The Council of Ex-Muslims organises to assist people who leave Islam, 
who frequently find their lives in grave danger due to Islamic apostasy laws, 
which call for the murder of apostates. The UK's National Secular Society has 
condemned the decision.
2) A hospital has apologised after an injured Royal Air Force sergeant was 
moved out of a waiting room because staff thought his uniform would “upset” 
other patients. His family was allegedly told it was because they “have lots of 
different cultures coming in.” Reports suggest the Mark Prendeville, 38, was 
asked to sit behind a wall. Sergeant Prendeville was attending the Accident and 
Emergency department at Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother Hospital in Margate, 
Kent, after chemicals from a fire extinguisher got in to his eyes during a 
training exercise. Veterans and military figures last night slammed the 
hospital’s treatment of the serviceman, who has been to Iraq and Afghanistan.
3) A piece of satirical artwork mocking Islamic State (IS) has been removed 
from a free-speech event(!) in London, after police warned it was 
“inflammatory.” The Syrian-born Jewish artist behind the work said she created 
it to challenge the idea that tackling extremism is somehow “racist”. The name 
of the work is Isis Threaten Sylvania. It consists of a series of seven models 
in light boxes, depicting scenes reminiscent of recent terrorist attacks. The 
model featuring children’s soft toys called the Sylvanian Families, who are 
being stalked by other heavily armed soft toys called “MICE IS.” However, the 
work was removed from the Passion for Freedom exhibition at the Mall galleries 
in London after police raised concerns about its “potentially inflammatory 
content”.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I'm not Catholic either. He wasn't speaking to "Catholics" exclusively. It
was an extremely universal message - in fact all of his speeches have been
this. I mention this one to you because it speaks directly to the phrase "one
world spiritual system", you included. I only heard the last part of his
speech, so will follow up on it myself later. I don't think anyone was
expecting the Pope that showed up here in the US to give us a little reminder
of our humanity. I've loved it and have been quite moved.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Emily, I'll listen to anything he has to say out of curiosity, with an open
mind and heart but quite frankly, I'm not Catholic and will take anything he
has to say with a grain of salt. However, there sure seems to be a *stir* about
him and his role during these times.

From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

Re: "Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the one
world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the Anti
-Christ."

Mike, assuming your mind and heart are not closed and that your thought
process retains flexibility and hesitates to assume that your opinion is
necessarily right, when the transcript comes out, read his speech given at
Independence Hall in Philly today (or watch it in a re-run on CSPAN). It is
the exact opposite of what you say here and was stated purposefully,
intelligently, and compassionately.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I'm not Catholic so I know very little about some things that I've been
hearing but they sound quit dire. We've all heard of the letters of Fatima but
know little of what was in them. The third letter of Fatima was supposed to be
published in 1960 but Pope John23 refused, it was supposed to be absolutely
horrifying. Later, another appearance occurred in Italy and a warning was that
since this letter was not published that many Bishops, priests, cardinals etc,
were leading the church into perdition. There is also prophecy that this is the
last Pope. Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the
one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the
Anti -Christ. Time will tell. The fourth blood Moon is tomorrow. We are now in
the year of Jubilee, a great time for those in the will of God but all hell
could break out for the rest. May you live in interesting times.

From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]"

To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

This remark that the Pope keeps making , "Please pray for me", is very
interesting. Does he know something that most of us don't know?

From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

Emily,

That was great article. Thanks.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

What John Boehner told me the night before he said he was quitting
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-boehner-in-twilight/2015/09/25/124fc54a-6399-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html?postshare=3481443196491815

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-boehner-in-twilight/2015/09/25/124fc54a-6399-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html?postshare=3481443196491815

What John Boehner told me the night before he said he...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-boehner-in-twilight/2015/09/25/124fc54a-6399-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html?postshare=3481443196491815
The House speaker reflects on the papal visit: “He said, ‘Please pray for me.’
”

View on www.washingtonpost...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/john-boehner-in-twilight/2015/09/25/124fc54a-6399-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html?postshare=3481443196491815
Preview by Yahoo

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I was just going to post the resignation of Speaker John Boehner. Apparently,
the heat among the Republicans must be getting too hot. It's likely that the
Tea Party members are pushing him to vote for a shutdown of the government.
But some of the hard-line Republicans seemingly haven't learned a lesson from
the last government shutdown.

I personally think Boehner was hit by the 'Pope Effect'.

GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of October
http://news.yahoo.com/gop-lawmakers-speaker-boehner-resign-end-october-134146275--politics.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread srijau

'takes a thorn to remove a thorn he was talking about his own TM Movement. 
Nowadays we can create big groups of Yogic Flyers, there is no need to bomb 
anyone or anything like that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread srijau

and I see nothing to superior about your crass self or your American way of 
life to the Plains or any other native people, you are just a sick fuck of a 
racist propagandist.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Well Srijau, I guess nature intended to bring a native populations, isolated 
from progress, living in a hunting gathering society for some  ten to twenty 
thousand years, into the present. They say Karma's a bitch and so is catching 
up. Maharishi use to talk about a *phase transition* into  a sat yuga as 
potentially rough for the world. I would say that Native Americans have had 
their own *phase transition*from 10,000 BC or earlier, to modern times in about 
a 150-200 years span of time. I'm sure some came screaming and kicking while 
others rode the wave. Being crass... maybe that's my style. I think of it as 
shooting straight, without beating around the bushes. And I didn't have to 
get into any name calling!

  From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 6:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Native americans

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

If there is anything that I have said that is dishonest or inaccurate in 
regards to my comments regarding Native Americans, I'm willing to listen. Mind 
you Srijau, I haven't commented on Anglo/American treatment/mistreatment of 
NAs. There's not a lot to be proud of their either. And... I still haven't 
gotten into name calling!

  From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:51 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Native americans
   
    an honest accurate account of native/settler relations for anyone who wants 
to understand the truth rather than listen to or be a ignorant racist crank

By Thomas King The Inconvenient Indian: A Curious Account of Native People in 
North America: Amazon.com: Books
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Mam, the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a job to 
do. If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniques then he has 
some 'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have to find three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him. It is just the way it works 
here now. Procedure. Was he part of that Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and 
is selling and teaching it bootleg as “Centering Prayer”? 
  
 Like others in his position he'd have some 'splainin' to do. Recently they 
been having people swear an oath that they would stop seeing saints and 
teachers like him. The Pope simply is not in a good position to get a valid 
badge to meditate with the group. -JaiGuruYou
 

 Hilarious, thanks for this. All I can say is the Movement in FF should be 
very, very thankful I don't live there. Do I want to go to the Dome? No. Would 
I like to raise shit? Yes. Why? Because I love seeing tightwads squirm a little.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Son, the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have had the Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for a Dome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read them directly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up on campus. He works for and promotes an organization that teaches spiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
 
 
 The TM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badge by our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actually fortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get a meditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown in Fairfield. 
 
 
 The Rajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved about this 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice of effortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by his dalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes, including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive the the larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcending meditation.
 

 I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

 

 I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge 
- the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".
 


 

 

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 
  

 Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community. 

 In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  
 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?
 

 HAHA, excellent question.
 

 (I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I 
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)
 

 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a 
coincidence?
 
 
   
 Yes, a grace.   A type of blessing not uncommon when it is looked for in 
cultivated people.  Helpful where used for others as transformation that can 
come as a spiritual fruit of spiritual cultivation, the capacity to help 
others.  We have seen it in Fairfield.  It can be just field effect of 
spiritual capacity or be wielded intended as a prakriti vector in a flow

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I think you're right. My original question was merely tongue in cheek. However, 
on my six month age of enlightenment course, M seemed to get a bit irritated 
with one fellow that referred to his catholic faith more than once. Seems after 
one such reference is when I remember M saying *THIS*(TM, age of enlightenment 
program) should be your religion. 
  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:01 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

    I doubt very much if going to see the pope would result in not being able 
to get a dome badge in Fairfield. The very idea seems ridiculous. After, all, 
we do have a Liberal Catholic Church in FF that is made up mostly of TMers, 
some of whom go to the dome. I think the movement has always honored the 
practice of one's own religion. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Mam,the guidelines are what they are. The course office staff has a jobto do. 
If it is in his file that he does other spiritual techniquesthen he has some 
'splaining to do right away. And then we'd have tofind three re-cert TM 
governors who know him and could recommend him.It is just the way it works here 
now. Procedure. Was he part ofthat Catholic cohort who ripped TM off and is 
selling and teaching it bootleg as“Centering Prayer”?  Like others in his 
position he'd have some'splainin' to do. Recently they been having people swear 
an oaththat they would stop seeing saints and teachers like him. The Popesimply 
is not in a good position to get a valid badge to meditatewith the group. 
-JaiGuruYou
Hilarious, thanks for this. All I can say is the Movement in FF should be very, 
very thankful I don't live there. Do I want to go to the Dome? No. Would I like 
to raise shit? Yes. Why? Because I love seeing tightwads squirm a little.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Son,the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have hadthe Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for aDome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read themdirectly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up oncampus. He works for and promotes an organization that teachesspiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
TheTM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badgeby our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actuallyfortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get ameditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown inFairfield. 
TheRajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved aboutthis 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice ofeffortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by hisdalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes,including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive thethe larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcendingmeditation.
I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here.Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge - 
the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 

Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community.
In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Mars is no longer an angry red planet. It has been going through therapy and 
has learned to deal with it's issues.

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:48 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars
   
    NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this coming 
Monday.  Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?
NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)
 
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made a major Mars discovery. The "major science finding" will be announced in a 
special news conference on Monday by the space agency. From...||
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Bari2 opines:

And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned elsewhere.

So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Trump has Mars on his lagna.  So, in a subtle way, he is a Martian here on 
earth, although most people don't know it.  And, he is campaigning like a 
Martian.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 They spotted Donald Trump campaigning on Mars.
 
 On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this coming 
Monday.  Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?
 
 
 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)
 
 
 
 
 
 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) NASA has made a major Mars discovery. 
The "major science finding" will be announced in a special news conference on 
Monday by the space agency. From...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Marxist Pope

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

So the Pope doesn't live up to your fascist standards?  I just got bored 
with the distraction as there was much more going on in the world last week.


On 09/26/2015 11:54 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


*Seven Ways Pope Francis Slapped Conservatives in the United States*

By Ben Shapiro , 25 Sep 2015

*Many conservatives viewed the prospect of the Pope’s visit to the 
United States with a mixture of hope and trepidation: hope, because 
the Pope’s visit would force heavy media coverage of religious issues; 
trepidation, because of Pope Francis’ mixed record on issues ranging 
from climate change to illegal immigration.*


Conservatives were right to worry.

The Pope’s visit has been an unmitigated boon for the left. 
Conservative defenders of the Pope will undoubtedly note that he has 
referred, albeit obliquely, to same-sex marriage and abortion; they 
will point out that the Pope visited the Little Sisters of the Poor 
and made veiled reference to religious freedom. They will suggest that 
the media has done the Pope wrong by focusing on the Pope’s support 
for leftist causes to the exclusion of his traditionally religious 
principles.


They’re right, naturally. But the Pope is hardly a political neophyte, 
unaware of the nature of the media. For years now, we’ve heard that 
the Pope’s words have been taken out of context, misinterpreted, even 
mistranslated. During his visit to the United States, the Pope spoke 
in English, before a joint session of Congress, with the president 
before the media, at the United Nations, and in New York City and 
Philadelphia. Over and over, he had the cameras on him. And over and 
over, he failed to take advantage of the situation to speak truth to 
power, instead catering to the hard left again and again.


Here are seven ways in which the Pope insulted conservatives during 
his visit:


*The Staged Illegal Immigrant Child Photo-Op. *On Wednesday 
, 
as the Popemobile moved down the National Mall, five-year-old Sophie 
Cruz somehow eluded security and reached the Pope himself. The 
security guards stopped young Sophie, but the Pope motioned her 
forward. She then hugged the Pope, and handed the Pope a letter she 
purportedly wrote, an eloquent plea to stay in the United States with 
her two illegal immigrant parents. “I want to tell you that my heart 
is sad,” Sophie told the media, having memorized her letter. “I would 
like to ask you to speak with the president and the Congress in 
legalizing my parents because every day I am scared that one day they 
will take them away from me.” Her father stood next to her, wearing a 
t-shirt that read “Papa Rescata DAPA!” – the Pope should rescue 
President Obama’s executive amnesty.


The entire photo-op was a setup, naturally. Five-year-old children do 
not memorize page-long letters or make it through security to the Pope 
without help. As the /Daily Mail /(UK) reported 
:


The stunt has been organized by immigration advocacy group Hermandad 
Mexicana Transnacional, in Los Angeles. Alicia Flores, executive 
director of La Hermandad, chose Sophie to approach the pope after a 
young girl was able to approach the pope in Rome in a similar 
incident, reported the *Washington* 
* Post. 
*She and her family were flown out to Washington as part of a group of 
six children and 19 adults, with the hope of delivering their message 
on immigration.


*Comparing Fighting Illegal Immigration to Human Rights Abuses Against 
Native Americans.*The Pope dropped this egregious rhetorical dud in 
the middle of his speech to Congress:


Tragically, the rights of those who were here long before us were not 
always respected. For those peoples and their nations, from the heart 
of American democracy, I wish to reaffirm my highest esteem and 
appreciation. Those first contacts were often turbulent and violent, 
but it is difficult to judge the past by the criteria of the present. 
Nonetheless, when the stranger in our midst appeals to us, we must not 
repeat the sins and the errors of the past. We must resolve now to 
live as nobly and as justly as possible, as we educate new generations 
not to turn their back on our “neighbors” and everything around us. 
Building a nation calls us to recognize that we must constantly relate 
to others, rejecting a mindset of hostility in order to adopt one of 
reciprocal subsidiary, in a constant effort to do our best. I am 
confident that we can do this.


In other words, the original immigrants mistreated Native

Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Well we know they aren't going to say they've found life on Mars because 
our Mr. Science confirms there is no other intelligent life in the 
universe. :-D


On 09/26/2015 10:17 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Trump has Mars on his lagna.  So, in a subtle way, he is a Martian 
here on earth, although most people don't know it.  And, he is 
campaigning like a Martian.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

They spotted Donald Trump campaigning on Mars.

On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_esq@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this 
coming Monday.  Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?



NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) 






image 




NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) 
 

NASA has made a major Mars discovery. The "major science finding" 
will be announced in a special news conference on Monday by the space 
agency. From...


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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

2015-09-26 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

They may have more children, but the family can't take care for them or the 
children die through wars as victims or as jihadists.  Will MMY's dream of 
Heaven on Earth be fulfilled?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I saw a video the other day,I'll look for it and try to post it here if I can. 
It explains statistically that in order for a culture to grow, it requires that 
each couple produce at least 2.11 children to replace them. If they produce 
less , there will be failure to grow and collapse will be inevitable. Most 
European countries are producing less than 1.9, many as low as 1.3 per couple. 
Muslim immigrants are reproducing in far greater numbers, numbers far beyond 
what is *needed* to grow. Europe is quickly being conquered by Islam by natural 
reproduction.  The United States is well on it's way with the same scenario. 

 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:56 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'
 
 
   
 The Bulgarian Orthodox Church says so.  The church fears that it's a Muslim 
invasion.  One wonders if ISIS had orchestrated this mass migration in the 
first place.  Is that possible?
 

 Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Orthodox Church 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma

 
 
 
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 Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Or... 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Bulgaria's Orthodox Church has called on its government not to let any more 
Muslim refugees into the country to prevent an "invasion". The Balkan EU m...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

No, they are having their children here and in Europe. Europe is being becoming 
Muslim by birth. Muslim births are out pacing European births.

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

    They may have more children, but the family can't take care for them or the 
children die through wars as victims or as jihadists.  Will MMY's dream of 
Heaven on Earth be fulfilled?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I saw a video the other day,I'll look for it and try to post it here if I can. 
It explains statistically that in order for a culture to grow, it requires that 
each couple produce at least 2.11 children to replace them. If they produce 
less , there will be failure to grow and collapse will be inevitable. Most 
European countries are producing less than 1.9, many as low as 1.3 per couple. 
Muslim immigrants are reproducing in far greater numbers, numbers far beyond 
what is *needed* to grow. Europe is quickly being conquered by Islam by natural 
reproduction.  The United States is well on it's way with the same scenario. 
  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:56 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

 The Bulgarian Orthodox Church says so.  The church fears that it's a Muslim 
invasion.  One wonders if ISIS had orchestrated this mass migration in the 
first place.  Is that possible?
Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Orthodox Church

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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Must be new souls to fall for that. Maybe tell them being a rock star is 
a faster way to get virgins? Worked on Russia. ;-)


On 09/26/2015 02:32 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
No, they are having their children here and in Europe. Europe is being 
becoming Muslim by birth. Muslim births are out pacing European births.



*From:* "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:47 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

They may have more children, but the family can't take care for them 
or the children die through wars as victims or as jihadists.  Will 
MMY's dream of Heaven on Earth be fulfilled?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I saw a video the other day,I'll look for it and try to post it here 
if I can. It explains statistically that in order for a culture to 
grow, it requires that each couple produce at least 2.11 children to 
replace them. If they produce less , there will be failure to grow and 
collapse will be inevitable. Most European countries are producing 
less than 1.9, many as low as 1.3 per couple. Muslim immigrants are 
reproducing in far greater numbers, numbers far beyond what is 
*needed* to grow. Europe is quickly being conquered by Islam by 
natural reproduction.  The United States is well on it's way with the 
same scenario.


*From:* "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:56 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

The Bulgarian Orthodox Church says so.  The church fears that it's a 
Muslim invasion.  One wonders if ISIS had orchestrated this mass 
migration in the first place.  Is that possible?


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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I saw a video the other day,I'll look for it and try to post it here if I can. 
It explains statistically that in order for a culture to grow, it requires that 
each couple produce at least 2.11 children to replace them. If they produce 
less , there will be failure to grow and collapse will be inevitable. Most 
European countries are producing less than 1.9, many as low as 1.3 per couple. 
Muslim immigrants are reproducing in far greater numbers, numbers far beyond 
what is *needed* to grow. Europe is quickly being conquered by Islam by natural 
reproduction.  The United States is well on it's way with the same scenario. 
 From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:56 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'
   
    The Bulgarian Orthodox Church says so.  The church fears that it's a Muslim 
invasion.  One wonders if ISIS had orchestrated this mass migration in the 
first place.  Is that possible?
Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Orthodox Church
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

This remark that the Pope keeps making , "Please pray for me", is very 
interesting. Does he know something that most of us don't know?

Apparently this prelate still remembers his true status. 

This is a common saying among priests/bishops/archbishops and cardinals and 
often is part of the liturgy. Those who are authentic know that the prayers of 
the faithful are the only remediation left to bless and save them from 
themselves.

[FairfieldLife] Karma Police? Nosy Brits

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

The mass surveillance operation — code-named KARMA POLICE — was launched 
by British spies about seven years ago without any public debate or 
scrutiny. It was just one part of a giant global Internet spying 
apparatus built by the United Kingdom’s electronic eavesdropping agency, 
Government Communications Headquarters, or GCHQ.
http://interc.pt/1G6t4Zv

May those who snoop go blind.
Kuru Kuru Swaha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I think not. It certainly would go against everything M taught openly about TM. 
TM is not a religion, don't need to change your religion, just add TM and 
you'll be a better practitioner of your religion etc,
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A nice way to alienate a large portion of the world fro ever learning TM.
Preposterous, of course. I don't think even the Movement is this stupid - or 
maybe they are. Are they? Alex? Anyone?

  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Son,the Pope would not qualify for a Dome badge. Doesn't matter if he learned 
TM and is a meditator.  In process I have hadthe Dome badge guidelines read to 
me numerous times in applying for aDome badge and I have very recently been 
able to read themdirectly again by oversight sub-committee work I have been on 
up oncampus. He works for and promotes an organization that teachesspiritual 
practices. Flat out. 
TheTM course office would be bound to deny the Pope a valid Dome badgeby our 
guidelines. The guidelines are un-changed and actuallyfortified around this. 
The Pope wouldn't even be able to get ameditator's badge to meditate with in 
the meditation room downtown inFairfield. 
TheRajas and the Prime Minister of the Global Country are unmoved aboutthis 
guideline. Based on his choices his innocent practice ofeffortless meditation 
would evidently have been corrupted by hisdalliance with this and that mindful 
praying and other meditation. Yes,including him in the group transcendence 
meditation could be counter-productive thethe larger group effect of group 
practice of authentic transcendingmeditation.
I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify.  That is how it 
works around here.Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge. 
-JaiGuruYou!

I guarantee that seeing the Pope would not disqualify anyone for a Dome badge - 
the repercussions socially and politically would be too cumbersome to bear by 
the Movement. Imagine the headlines: "Meditators Ostracized For Catching 
Glimpse of Popemobile". Or, "TM Movement Bans Meditator For Selfie With Pope".

srijau writes:  This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from 
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Off the Program? Well, technically if the Pope is teaching spiritual practices 
like meditation then seeing him or attending meetings with him, certainly 
facilitating for him would be "OTP" and could disqualify your valid Dome badge. 

Unless the course office folks have it in your file already and they start to 
ask you about it then people have learnt to just not bring things like this up 
when applying for the Dome badge, something taught in the culture of TM as 
lying by omission.  There is a lot of fear around this in the TM community.
In this case just don't bring up that his church teaches 'centering prayer' as 
method of spiritual practice/meditation.  That meditation could conflict with 
the innocent practice of TM and TM-sidhis.  It could therefore be better if 
Catholics, and certainly any who have gone to see the Pope would not be 
admitted and could be removed from meditating with the group. Their delicate 
'effortless practice' of transcending meditation has probably been corrupted.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?
HAHA, excellent question.
(I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I 
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)

  From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Pope in Phoenix - Is it a miracle, or a 
coincidence?

 Yes, a grace.   A type of blessing not uncommon when it is looked for in 
cultivated people.  Helpful where used for others as transformation that can 
come as a spiritual fruit of spiritual cultivation, the capacity to help 
others.  We have seen it in Fairfield.  It can be just field effect of 
spiritual capacity or be wielded intended as a prakriti vector in a flow of 
shakti, a good vibration and is not necessarily uncommon.
It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is 
not the only one around with that grace.     
-JaiGuruYou!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Not exactly my idea Ann. I'm for ending all immigration, just for a while. That 
way we aren't profiling. Then resume it at a later date based on what an 
immigrant can offer the country. Do they have a trade, skill, or education that 
will contribute to the economy?  Can they be self sufficient when they come 
here? Will they need public financial support? How will they make America 
better? Do they even want to make America better? This way, when a disaster 
really strikes and there is a genuine need to resettle people, we can take a 
fair portion.BTW, had your burqa fitting yet?

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I saw a video the other day,I'll look for it and try to post it here if I can. 
It explains statistically that in order for a culture to grow, it requires that 
each couple produce at least 2.11 children to replace them. If they produce 
less , there will be failure to grow and collapse will be inevitable. Most 
European countries are producing less than 1.9, many as low as 1.3 per couple. 
Muslim immigrants are reproducing in far greater numbers, numbers far beyond 
what is *needed* to grow. Europe is quickly being conquered by Islam by natural 
reproduction.  The United States is well on it's way with the same scenario. 

Maybe it's time for a little ethnic cleansing or sterilization, Mike? No 
abortion though.  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:56 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'
 
 The Bulgarian Orthodox Church says so.  The church fears that it's a Muslim 
invasion.  One wonders if ISIS had orchestrated this mass migration in the 
first place.  Is that possible?
Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Orthodox Church

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Right, question authority!

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Emily, I'll listen to anything he has to say out of curiosity, with an open 
mind and heart but quite frankly, I'm not Catholic and will take anything he 
has to say with a grain of salt. However, there sure seems to be a *stir* about 
him and his role during these times.
Even if you were Catholic you should take everything he says with a grain of 
salt. Evaluate everything no matter your predisposition. 

  From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

 Re: "Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the one 
world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the Anti 
-Christ."
Mike, assuming your mind and heart are not closed and that your thought process 
retains flexibility and hesitates to assume that your opinion is necessarily 
right, when the transcript comes out, read his speech given at Independence 
Hall in Philly today (or watch it in a re-run on CSPAN).  It is the exact 
opposite of what you say here and was stated purposefully, intelligently, and 
compassionately.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm not Catholic so I know very little about some things that I've been hearing 
but they sound quit dire. We've all heard of the letters of Fatima  but know 
little of what was in them. The third letter of Fatima was supposed to be 
published in 1960 but Pope John23 refused, it was supposed to be absolutely 
horrifying. Later, another appearance occurred in Italy and a warning was that 
since this letter was not published that many Bishops, priests, cardinals etc, 
were leading the church into perdition. There is also prophecy that this is the 
last Pope.  Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the 
one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the 
Anti -Christ. Time will tell. The fourth blood Moon is tomorrow. We are now in 
the year of Jubilee, a great time for those in the will of God but all hell 
could break out for the rest. May you live in interesting times.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Oh Ann, everybody likes a little drama in their lives. Why not a little Papal 
drama?

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm not Catholic so I know very little about some things that I've been hearing 
but they sound quit dire. We've all heard of the letters of Fatima  but know 
little of what was in them. The third letter of Fatima was supposed to be 
published in 1960 but Pope John23 refused, it was supposed to be absolutely 
horrifying. Later, another appearance occurred in Italy and a warning was that 
since this letter was not published that many Bishops, priests, cardinals etc, 
were leading the church into perdition. There is also prophecy that this is the 
last Pope.  Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the 
one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the 
Anti -Christ. Time will tell. The fourth blood Moon is tomorrow. We are now in 
the year of Jubilee, a great time for those in the will of God but all hell 
could break out for the rest. May you live in interesting times.
Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. C'monn. This Pope, despite the fact that he is a Pope, 
is the closest thing to a Saint I have seen in a long time and I don't believe 
in Saints (I'm capitalizing that word just out of respect for something that 
might or might not exist despite my non believing). Francis the anti Christ? 
You are funny today. Your raptors are about as close to being demonic as the 
Pope - which means not at all. You do seem to like drama.
  From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

 This remark that the Pope keeps making , "Please pray for me", is very 
interesting. Does he know something that most of us don't know?

  From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:12 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

Emily,
That was great article.  Thanks.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What John Boehner told me the night before he said he was quitting
|  |
|  | |  | What John Boehner told me the night before he said he... The 
House speaker reflects on the papal visit: “He said, ‘Please pray for me.’ ” |  
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|View on www.washingtonpost...  |   Preview by Yahoo  |
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I was just going to post the resignation of Speaker John Boehner.  Apparently, 
the heat among the Republicans must be getting too hot.  It's likely that the 
Tea Party members are pushing him to vote for a shutdown of the government.  
But some of the hard-line Republicans seemingly haven't learned a lesson from 
the last government shutdown.
I personally think Boehner was hit by the 'Pope Effect'.

GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of October
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|  | |  | GOP Lawmakers: Speaker Boehner to resign end of O... 
WASHINGTON (AP) — In a stunning move, House Speaker John Boehner informed 
Republicans that he would step down at the end of October. |  |
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Down one Republican cry baby. ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_Ed6SlrUYQ

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Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I saw a video the other day,I'll look for it and try to post it here if I can. 
It explains statistically that in order for a culture to grow, it requires that 
each couple produce at least 2.11 children to replace them. If they produce 
less , there will be failure to grow and collapse will be inevitable. Most 
European countries are producing less than 1.9, many as low as 1.3 per couple. 
Muslim immigrants are reproducing in far greater numbers, numbers far beyond 
what is *needed* to grow. Europe is quickly being conquered by Islam by natural 
reproduction.  The United States is well on it's way with the same scenario. 

 

 Maybe it's time for a little ethnic cleansing or sterilization, Mike? No 
abortion though.
 From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:56 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Don't Let Muslim Migrants In'
 
 
   
 The Bulgarian Orthodox Church says so.  The church fears that it's a Muslim 
invasion.  One wonders if ISIS had orchestrated this mass migration in the 
first place.  Is that possible?
 

 Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Orthodox Church 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma

 
 
 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 Don't let Muslim migrants in, says Bulgaria's Or... 
http://news.yahoo.com/dont-let-muslim-migrants-says-bulgarias-orthodox-church-001036785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Bulgaria's Orthodox Church has called on its government not to let any more 
Muslim refugees into the country to prevent an "invasion". The Balkan EU m...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Ann, I can't speak for your family but most of mine, that I'm aware of, came 
here before there were any laws governing immigration. I'm talking 1640 to 
1680's. I don't think the United States had any immigration laws until the 
twentieth century. I'm also pretty certain, though not positive, the Native 
population didn't either. As far as trespassing goes, there was no deed to 
land, no ownership. Indians fought among themselves for territory. Might made 
right. We were just another group throwing our weight around a lot of 
weight. I'm not saying us pale faces were exactly fair but there was a trade 
off. Native populations were brought into the industrial age out of the stone 
age.
 From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 


 




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Don't be too quick to assume that Ann. Just saw on Drudge report that Bill
Clinton seems to think Trump can win the nomination.

We shall see. Any bets? I'll bet you $100 he doesn't get nominated. Are you
in? If he wins you'll lose but you'll win ($100 from me. I'll even pay you in
USD.)

From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Trump has Mars on his lagna. So, in a subtle way, he is a Martian here on
earth, although most people don't know it. And, he is campaigning like a
Martian.

He will be yesterday's news within three months.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

They spotted Donald Trump campaigning on Mars.

On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this coming
Monday. Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?

NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)

http://www.rickey.org/nasa-makes-major-mars-discovery/286026/?utm_source=feedburner_medium=feed_campaign=Feed%3A+rickeyorg+%28Rickey.org%29

NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) NASA has made a major Mars discovery.
The "major science finding" will be announced in a special news conference on
Monday by the space agency. From...

View on www.rickey.org
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

And there is the law of the jungle! The force of evolution. The end of hunting, 
gathering civilizations were and still are coming to an end. How many are there 
now? Just isolated pockets that anthropologists preserve to study. Does it seem 
logical that an entire hemisphere would remain untouched to preserve an ancient 
civilization living under stone age conditions?Science , sociology, 
anthropology, medicine  etc, the world economy, were not developed enough to 
ensure their preservation as it was. Nature was bringing them along. It was 
time. Look what happened to Neanderthals. Nature often demands that we adapt or 
die out. I understand the romance of it all but nature doesn't work like that.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ann, I can't speak for your family but most of mine, that I'm aware of, came 
here before there were any laws governing immigration. I'm talking 1640 to 
1680's. I don't think the United States had any immigration laws until the 
twentieth century. I'm also pretty certain, though not positive, the Native 
population didn't either. As far as trespassing goes, there was no deed to 
land, no ownership. Indians fought among themselves for territory. Might made 
right. We were just another group throwing our weight around a lot of 
weight. I'm not saying us pale faces were exactly fair but there was a trade 
off. Native populations were brought into the industrial age out of the stone 
age.

You are talking law and policies and yet you ignore the stark reality. 
Basically, foreignors came ashore and usurped the native population. Some of 
these aboriginals died of disease, some died as a result of genocide and the 
rest by the results engendered by the slow creep of the belief that the 
newcomers had the right to take what they wanted and needed and did so 
inexorably over time finally destroying most of the culture and language of 
these native populations. There are laws that are not written, are not 
legislated by any government that are still laws and powerful ones, at that. 
There are laws that you won't find in any book or any creed but they, 
nevertheless, exist. You make as if the industrial age is superior to what was 
going on with the native peoples in their ability to live and thrive off of the 
land. I would seriously question the assertion that quality of life is superior 
to the what was happening 300 years ago on this continent. You may have a 
dishwasher, internet and a fast car but what have you lost? Think about it.  
From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Native americans

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

BTW, Srijau your problem with me is that I'm not PC, not that I spoke a lie or 
slandered anyone. PC is frequently intended to silence some one. You're not 
allowed to say what I said about NA culture and get away with it. To you, I'm 
sure you see me as holding them down, suppressing,and judging them. I'm not, 
I'm merely speaking to the facts of the situation. Where would they be had no 
greater civilization come.

  From: Mike Dixon 
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Native americans
   
If there is anything that I have said that is dishonest or inaccurate in 
regards to my comments regarding Native Americans, I'm willing to listen. Mind 
you Srijau, I haven't commented on Anglo/American treatment/mistreatment of 
NAs. There's not a lot to be proud of their either. And... I still haven't 
gotten into name calling!

   

   From: "sri...@ymail.com" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:51 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Native americans
   
    an honest accurate account of native/settler relations for anyone who wants 
to understand the truth rather than listen to or be a ignorant racist crank

By Thomas King The Inconvenient Indian: A Curious Account of Native People in 
North America: Amazon.com: Books
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

A nice way to alienate a large portion of the world fro ever learning TM.

Preposterous, of course. I don't think even the Movement is this stupid - or
maybe they are. Are they? Alex? Anyone?

From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 8:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting the Pope, Off-the-Program?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I rest the case. He made his choices. He would not qualify. That is how it
works around here. Visit the Pope at the peril of your valid Dome badge.
-JaiGuruYou!

srijau writes: This Pope does TM. .. Your comments are disconnected from
reality.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Would it be off the program to receive the darshan of the Pope?

HAHA, excellent question.

(I'll ignore your Ann Coulterism you made earlier about Native Americans. If I
didn't it could become a long, long thread.)

It appears when experienced by others as saintly or miraculous but the Pope is
not the only one around with that grace.

-JaiGuruYou!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

It's a miracle (smile).

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

This caught my attention:

Pope held sick baby, what happened next is amazing
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/inspiration-nation/2015/09/23/inspiration-nation-pope-holds-baby/72671356/

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
 

 And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
 

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Trump has Mars on his lagna.  So, in a subtle way, he is a Martian here on 
earth, although most people don't know it.  And, he is campaigning like a 
Martian.
 

 He will be yesterday's news within three months.
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 They spotted Donald Trump campaigning on Mars.
 
 On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about a new discovery this coming 
Monday.  Does anyone have a good guess what it will be?
 
 
 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)
 
 
 
 
 
 NASA Makes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO) NASA has made a major Mars discovery. 
The "major science finding" will be announced in a special news conference on 
Monday by the space agency. From...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Emily, I'll listen to anything he has to say out of curiosity, with an open 
mind and heart but quite frankly, I'm not Catholic and will take anything he 
has to say with a grain of salt. However, there sure seems to be a *stir* about 
him and his role during these times.
 

 Even if you were Catholic you should take everything he says with a grain of 
salt. Evaluate everything no matter your predisposition. 
 

 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Down One Cry Baby
 
 
   Re: "Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the one 
world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the Anti 
-Christ."
 

 Mike, assuming your mind and heart are not closed and that your thought 
process retains flexibility and hesitates to assume that your opinion is 
necessarily right, when the transcript comes out, read his speech given at 
Independence Hall in Philly today (or watch it in a re-run on CSPAN).  It is 
the exact opposite of what you say here and was stated purposefully, 
intelligently, and compassionately.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm not Catholic so I know very little about some things that I've been 
hearing but they sound quit dire. We've all heard of the letters of Fatima  but 
know little of what was in them. The third letter of Fatima was supposed to be 
published in 1960 but Pope John23 refused, it was supposed to be absolutely 
horrifying. Later, another appearance occurred in Italy and a warning was that 
since this letter was not published that many Bishops, priests, cardinals etc, 
were leading the church into perdition. There is also prophecy that this is the 
last Pope.  Could he be tied to the Anti-Christ ? He seems to be advocating the 
one world order and one world spiritual system that will be the mark of the 
Anti -Christ. Time will tell. The fourth blood Moon is tomorrow. We are now in 
the year of Jubilee, a great time for those in the will of God but all hell 
could break out for the rest. May you live in interesting times.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Don't be too quick to assume that Ann. Just saw on Drudge report that Bill 
Clinton seems to think Trump can win the nomination.
  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Trump has Mars on his lagna.  So, in a subtle way, he is a Martian here on 
earth, although most people don't know it.  And, he is campaigning like a 
Martian.
He will be yesterday's news within three months.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

They spotted Donald Trump campaigningon Mars.



 On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:



  NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about anew discovery this coming 
Monday.  Does anyone have agood guess what it will be?
NASAMakes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)

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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ann, I can't speak for your family but most of mine, that I'm aware of, came 
here before there were any laws governing immigration. I'm talking 1640 to 
1680's. I don't think the United States had any immigration laws until the 
twentieth century. I'm also pretty certain, though not positive, the Native 
population didn't either. As far as trespassing goes, there was no deed to 
land, no ownership. Indians fought among themselves for territory. Might made 
right. We were just another group throwing our weight around a lot of 
weight. I'm not saying us pale faces were exactly fair but there was a trade 
off. Native populations were brought into the industrial age out of the stone 
age.

 

 You are talking law and policies and yet you ignore the stark reality. 
Basically, foreignors came ashore and usurped the native population. Some of 
these aboriginals died of disease, some died as a result of genocide and the 
rest by the results engendered by the slow creep of the belief that the 
newcomers had the right to take what they wanted and needed and did so 
inexorably over time finally destroying most of the culture and language of 
these native populations. There are laws that are not written, are not 
legislated by any government that are still laws and powerful ones, at that. 
There are laws that you won't find in any book or any creed but they, 
nevertheless, exist. You make as if the industrial age is superior to what was 
going on with the native peoples in their ability to live and thrive off of the 
land. I would seriously question the assertion that quality of life is superior 
to the what was happening 300 years ago on this continent. You may have a 
dishwasher, internet and a fast car but what have you lost? Think about it.
 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 
 

 And all of this from a minor, insignificant graphic to illustrate that you and 
me (or at least our relatives) are immigrants who trespassed and ultimately 
subjugated the native cultures here in North America!
 

 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 
 
   What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
 

 There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
 
---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Hell no! I'm not betting that he gets it. I'm just saying he *could*. Ever 
since he started running , every week, he says or does something that all the 
pundits say, "That's it! He's finished" and then he goes up in the polls. And 
the republican establishment is throwing everything they have at him. I'm just 
amused at how wrong the media can be and they are so desperate to do him in. 
He's like Dracula!

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 11:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Don't be too quick to assume that Ann. Just saw on Drudge report that Bill 
Clinton seems to think Trump can win the nomination.
We shall see. Any bets? I'll bet you $100 he doesn't get nominated. Are you in? 
If he wins you'll lose but you'll win ($100 from me. I'll even pay you in USD.)
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 9:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Major News about Mars

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Trump has Mars on his lagna.  So, in a subtle way, he is a Martian here on 
earth, although most people don't know it.  And, he is campaigning like a 
Martian.
He will be yesterday's news within three months.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

They spotted Donald Trump campaigningon Mars.

 On 09/26/2015 09:48 AM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  NASA is scheduled to make an announcement about anew discovery this coming 
Monday.  Does anyone have agood guess what it will be?
NASAMakes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)

|  
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|  
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 |NASAMakes Major Mars Discovery (VIDEO)NASA has made a majorMars 
discovery. The "major science finding"will be announced in a special 
newsconference on Monday by the space agency.From... |  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
   
    What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because 
none of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations 
in what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny 
compared to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad 
manners, and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't 
practice any self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples 
aren't all the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not 
the "Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)
 


 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]

Well Pundit Bill, you're an expert on the Vedas so you should know.  You 
should also then know that TM is just "a meditation for the masses."  
For that shanti mantras are generally given.  And as you know Maharishi 
originally just gave a shanti mantra.  Also in real systems instead of 
parrots you train people to be actual meditation teachers who give the 
mantra along with shaktipat.  However Maharishi did not have the 
credentials to make those kind of teachers.


On 09/26/2015 10:06 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Bari2 opines:

And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned 
elsewhere.


So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

2015-09-26 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

What did Maharishi used to say? Sometimes it takes a thorn to remove a thorn, I 
think. A well guided laser *thorn* would be much better than poking around with 
a big rusty nail.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

    Interesting stuff - thanks for the specifics. Yes, Dances With Wolves was 
well researched. 
I find it curious the Western revulsion at violence done directly, though we 
have no such squeamishness when aiming a laser guided munition at a village. On 
the one hand, decrying the public be-headings by ISIS, while on the other, 
blowing the heads, arms, and legs off large segments of the populations we 
attack. 
Hypocrisy, anyone? 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm speaking primarily of plains Indians. Ever watch Dances with Wolves? Now 
before you say "that's just Hollywood", it was a pretty accurate portrayal  of 
plains Indian life, although toned down greatly.  I read a book called *Indian 
Depredations* by Big Foot Wallace, one of the original Texas Rangers in which 
he chronicles attacks by Comanche, Kiowa, and other native Texas bands on 
settlers. There were a couple of bands in Texas that none of the other *tribes* 
or nations liked as they were cannibalistic. I could go into the nature of 
plains Indian depredations in detail but they were quite gruesome. Let's put it 
this way, An old saying among those with firsthand experience with Indians was 
" save your last bullet for yourself, you don't want to be captured alive". 
Yes, self mutilation was a common practice among plains Indians. Lots of 
*cutting*. Women cut them selves in mourning a lost loved one. Ever hear of the 
sun Dance? Sitting Bull cut something like a hundred pieces of flesh from his 
arms.  Of course we know of the mutilations of dead soldiers at the Little Big 
Horn. My great grand father arrived a couple of days after and helped bury the 
dead.Human sacrifice was limited more to the Aztec and Mayan, to my knowledge, 
although I'm pretty sure it happened in South American tribes as well. Ever 
hear of shrinking heads? < Not intending to paint all with a broad brush, there 
were  relatively more sophisticated nations as well, Hopi, Navajo Cherokee etc. 
But nobody remembers a *good* Indian! 

  From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 10:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

 What tribes or nations are you referring to here? I am curious, because none 
of that behavior, except for tool making, occurred among the first nations in 
what is now California, Oregon and Washington. The nations were tiny compared 
to they are today, and self-sufficient. It was considered extreme bad manners, 
and even crazy, to go from one nation into another. They didn't practice any 
self-mutilation either. Just like us whiteys, first nation peoples aren't all 
the same. And you are aware of course that it was the whites, not the 
"Indians",  who began collecting scalps. 
There is no need to justify their slaughter, and death by disease, by 
considering them savage and barbarian. I don't think guilt-tripping is 
appropriate either, but acknowledging that theirs was as diverse and complex a 
group of cultures as ours, at least recognizes the reality of what happened.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Isn't it horrible? We brought them guns and whiskey. Had we never come, they 
could still be chasing buffalo(on foot), living in tepees, using stone and bone 
tools, killing each other over food stores for the winter, mutilating their 
bodies, making human sacrifice and otherwise living in *harmony* with nature..
  From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:58 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike (Smile)

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[FairfieldLife] The Marxist Pope

2015-09-26 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

Seven Ways Pope Francis Slapped Conservatives in the United States
By Ben Shapiro, 25 Sep 2015
Many conservatives viewed the prospect of the Pope’s visit to the United
States with a mixture of hope and trepidation: hope, because the Pope’s visit
would force heavy media coverage of religious issues; trepidation, because of
Pope Francis’ mixed record on issues ranging from climate change to illegal
immigration.
Conservatives were right to worry.
The Pope’s visit has been an unmitigated boon for the left. Conservative
defenders of the Pope will undoubtedly note that he has referred, albeit
obliquely, to same-sex marriage and abortion; they will point out that the Pope
visited the Little Sisters of the Poor and made veiled reference to religious
freedom. They will suggest that the media has done the Pope wrong by focusing
on the Pope’s support for leftist causes to the exclusion of his traditionally
religious principles.
They’re right, naturally. But the Pope is hardly a political neophyte, unaware
of the nature of the media. For years now, we’ve heard that the Pope’s words
have been taken out of context, misinterpreted, even mistranslated. During his
visit to the United States, the Pope spoke in English, before a joint session
of Congress, with the president before the media, at the United Nations, and in
New York City and Philadelphia. Over and over, he had the cameras on him. And
over and over, he failed to take advantage of the situation to speak truth to
power, instead catering to the hard left again and again.
Here are seven ways in which the Pope insulted conservatives during his visit:
The Staged Illegal Immigrant Child Photo-Op. On Wednesday, as the Popemobile
moved down the National Mall, five-year-old Sophie Cruz somehow eluded security
and reached the Pope himself. The security guards stopped young Sophie, but the
Pope motioned her forward. She then hugged the Pope, and handed the Pope a
letter she purportedly wrote, an eloquent plea to stay in the United States
with her two illegal immigrant parents. “I want to tell you that my heart is
sad,” Sophie told the media, having memorized her letter. “I would like to ask
you to speak with the president and the Congress in legalizing my parents
because every day I am scared that one day they will take them away from me.”
Her father stood next to her, wearing a t-shirt that read “Papa Rescata DAPA!”
– the Pope should rescue President Obama’s executive amnesty.
The entire photo-op was a setup, naturally. Five-year-old children do not
memorize page-long letters or make it through security to the Pope without
help. As the Daily Mail (UK) reported:
The stunt has been organized by immigration advocacy group Hermandad Mexicana
Transnacional, in Los Angeles. Alicia Flores, executive director of La
Hermandad, chose Sophie to approach the pope after a young girl was able to
approach the pope in Rome in a similar incident, reported the Washington
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2015/09/23/meet-the-5-year-old-who-gave-the-pope-a-letter-because-she-doesnt-want-her-parents-deported/
Post. She and her family were flown out to Washington as part of a group of
six children and 19 adults, with the hope of delivering their message on
immigration.
Comparing Fighting Illegal Immigration to Human Rights Abuses Against Native
Americans. The Pope dropped this egregious rhetorical dud in the middle of his
speech to Congress:
Tragically, the rights of those who were here long before us were not always
respected. For those peoples and their nations, from the heart of American
democracy, I wish to reaffirm my highest esteem and appreciation. Those first
contacts were often turbulent and violent, but it is difficult to judge the
past by the criteria of the present. Nonetheless, when the stranger in our
midst appeals to us, we must not repeat the sins and the errors of the past. We
must resolve now to live as nobly and as justly as possible, as we educate new
generations not to turn their back on our “neighbors” and everything around us.
Building a nation calls us to recognize that we must constantly relate to
others, rejecting a mindset of hostility in order to adopt one of reciprocal
subsidiary, in a constant effort to do our best. I am confident that we can do
this.
In other words, the original immigrants mistreated Native Americans, and
today’s Americans must beware of doing the same to illegal immigrants. This
isn’t just insulting, it’s ridiculous. Americans sent Cherokees along the Trail
of Tears. Today’s Americans send illegal immigrants along the trail of free
education, emergency medical care, and state-sponsored welfare programs.
Allowing President Obama to Represent Himself as An Advocate of Religious
Liberty. On Wednesday, while speaking at the White House, President Obama said,
“Here in the United States, we cherish religious liberty….[The United States]
stand[s] with you in defense of

[FairfieldLife] KATY PERRY & STING & MORE > TM BENEFIT CONCERT

2015-09-26 Thread email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

KATY PERRY & STING & MORE 
>> TM BENEFIT CONCERT <<

Katy Perry, Sting & More Set for David Lynch Foundation Benefit Concer

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