[FairfieldLife] Re: Gopi Krishna's Kundalini experience

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I agree.  Action movies help. But most of them are so formulaic.  No 
originality.  Guardians of the Galaxy was pretty good.  I'm pretty much 
resigned to art house movies at this point.  We enjoyed "The Founder", the 
McDonalds story with Michael Keaton. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If your having a  kundalini crisis, go watch some x-men movies. It will help 
you feel better.

[FairfieldLife] Kundalini calmer?

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

L-Theanine might work.  Has a calming effect on the NS, resulting in restful 
alertness without drowsiness.
 

 
http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2016/3/brain-benefits-of-l-theanine/page-01
 
http://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2016/3/brain-benefits-of-l-theanine/page-01
 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Gopi Krishna's Kundalini experience

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The generalizations put forth by Gopi Krishna aren't too useful since he's 
basically making conclusions based (first) on his personal experiences, then 
(second) he reviewed the literature concluding that many if not all cases of 
intellectual and Spiritual genius stem from Kundalini awakening.
 Pursuant to these ideas, various researchers line Lee Sanella  and Gene Kiefer 
at the Kundalini Research foundation took it upon themselves to further 
inventory various cases and investigate how the kundalini can be awakened. I 
don't believe their ventures were very successful.
 One might try making an appointment at the Patanjali Kundalini Care Center.:
 

 http://kundalinicare.com/ http://kundalinicare.com/
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] My Enlightenment Delusion - new book

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

O.K.
I had a lot of beautiful experiences. The rough stuff came many years later and 
I had to work it out on my own how to handle it.
It was really spontaneous and not triggered directly by meditation but other 
events, but clearly related to all I had practiced in the past.
It was as if a block had been dissolved, and all the dark was free to surface 
and flee.
I never however thought of it as "kundalini" as that word never really had much 
impact on my thought processes as concerned what was happening.
There was a point where it seemed I knew a few things others did not know, but 
fortunately that passed. It is hard to talk about unusual experiences, 
especially if the word "enlightenment" is involved, without being a kind of 
jerk.
Sometimes I think there should be a rule -- wait ten years or so after a cool 
experience before you blab about it to give time to assimilate it properly and 
give perspective.

   

   From: "'My Enlightenment Delusion' myenlightenmentdelus...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Enlightenment Delusion - new book
  
    To me, a kundalini crisis is an overwhelming mind-body experience caused by 
spiritual practices. Many spiritual movements speak of the kundalini energy 
center and its role in enlightenment. It is a fairly common conception that a 
huge burst of energy from the kundalini center can create an overwhelming 
experience akin to mania.  I don’t think I ever heard Maharishi speak of 
kundalini, but I had conversations with other TM teachers about kundalini over 
the years. Here is a link to a transcript of Maharishi speaking about kundalini 
in 1968 http://institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_mmy/mmykundalini.php  Here 
is an excerpt from my book:The most scientific description of kundalini crises 
that I have found is in the 1992 book, The Kundalini Experience by Lee 
Sannella, M.D. Sannella interviewed people who had come through kundalini 
crises. He came up with 4 categories of experience: motor, sensory, 
non-physiological, and interpretive. As motor phenomena, Sannella listed kriyas 
and unusual breathing patterns. Under sensory phenomena, he listed tickling 
sensations, heat and cold sensations, inner light, inner sounds, and pain in 
the eyes, head, spine, or elsewhere. Under non-physiological phenomena, 
Sannella listed out-of-body experiences and psychic perceptions.As interpretive 
phenomena, Sannella listed both positive and negative feelings that could be 
experienced with much greater intensity than usual such as ecstasy, love, 
cosmic harmony, fear and confusion. He stated that the thinking process could 
be speeded up or inhibited. The mental experience could be detachment, 
hysteria, a state akin to schizophrenia, or the delusion of having been 
divinely chosen.Here are my symptoms which match Sannella’s descriptions: ●  
When my kundalini crisis began, I had tingling all over my body. It felt like a 
continuous, small electric shock sensation which was pleasant and exciting. ●  
I had extreme feelings of joy and thankfulness that seemed to be related to my 
thoughts that I was enlightened. When I had delusions about achieving even 
higher states of consciousness, I would subsequently be so ecstatic and so 
thankful that I would start to cry. ●  All of my feelings were experienced with 
greater intensity than usual. When I spoke, I spoke like a fire-brand preacher. 
My voice almost became raspy as if I had been yelling at a sporting event. ●  I 
thought I had earned a special relationship with God and nature. From: Archer 
Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:36 
PMTo: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My 
Enlightenment Delusion - new book   I am rather curious about this. What is a 
kundalini crisis? 
Some people do have trouble with TM's effects, everyone has a different nervous 
system, and some have problems, and the movement does not always handle these 
things well.  Unlike some systems TM does not have any real qualifications for 
starting. 
For example to study Vedanta you might be required at the outset to have:    
   - an open mind   
 
   - a reasonable mind   
 
   - a discriminating mind   
 
   - a dispassionate mind   
 
   - a disciplined, observant mind   
 
   - a sense of self duty   
 
   - forbearance, motivation, and devotion to the goal   
 
   - a certain level of critical thinking but not overly critical   
 
   - a temperament for overcoming obstacles   
 
   - a proper teacher and good fortune to have and find these
 TM lets in all kinds of people with few restraints, but as a result a lot of 
crazies get by who are not prepared for what can happen. The path to 
enlightenment is not all bliss. It can get very very gritty. I think a lot of 
people get in who have a lot of strange beliefs and propensities that then go 
off the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gopi Krishna's Kundalini experience

[rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

If your having a  kundalini crisis, go watch some x-men movies. It will help 
you feel better.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gopi Krishna's Kundalini experience

['My Enlightenment Delusion' myenlightenmentdelus...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

I want to start this post by stating that I am not an expert on 
all-things-yoga. And I am pretty thin on info about Gopi Krishna, but I would 
like to use a Gopi quote to illustrate that a kundalini crisis is overwhelming. 
The bold print is my emphasis.

Gopi Krishna wrote this in Kundalini: The Evolutionary Energy in Man: “The 
awakening may be gradual or sudden, varying in intensity and effect according 
to the development, constitution, and temperament of different individuals; but 
in most cases it results in a greater instability of the emotional nature and a 
greater liability to aberrant mental conditions in the subject, mainly owing to 
tainted heredity, faulty modes of conduct, or immoderation in any shape or 
form. Leaving out the extreme cases, which end in madness, this generalization 
applies to all the categories of men in whom Kundalini is congenitally more or 
less active, comprising mystics, mediums, men of genius, and those of an 
exceptionally high intellectual or artistic development only a shade removed 
from genius. In the case of those in whom the awakening occurs all at once as 
the result of Yoga or other spiritual practices, the sudden impact of powerful 
vital currents on the brain and other organs is often attended with grave risk 
and strange mental conditions, varying from moment to moment, exhibiting in the 
beginning the abnormal peculiarities of a medium, mystic, genius, and madman 
all rolled into one.”

A free PDF of Gopi Krishna’s book is at 
http://www.kundaliniawakeningsystems1.com/downloads/kundalini-the-evolutionary-energy-in-man_gopi-krishna_(89pg).pdf
 

What do people expect when they are enlightened? Do you think that gurus say 
that enlightenment is overwhelming or is it just another normal day at the 
office? 

Charlie Lutes said that heaven fell in on him. There are a few TM teachers who 
had some overwhelming times of ecstasy and overwhelming times of “not fun”.

Re: [FairfieldLife] My Enlightenment Delusion - new book

[rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I use to have kundalini  experiences before i learned to meditate, maybe 12-13 
years old, i use think to myself "don't they know" .