RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima: the Raja class..

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 These active teachers from LA, NYC and DC each were saying in their own 
experience that the owners of TM, the Trustees and Raja-class need to be active 
TM teachers for perspective in running the organizations. Their suggestion is 
to have the Raja and also the TM-Siddhis course administrators rotate every two 
months out to the Centers/ Peace Palaces to teach TM alongside experienced 
teachers to beginners for perspective. That would anchor the teaching and the 
org instead of the stuff the owners get in to. 
 


 skymtsea writes:  Many spiritual organizations have "back room" stuff that is 
sanitized, kept out of sight of new members -- but can be disarming when 
revealed. For me it's an ethical question that should be addressed in non-dual 
orgs ethics efforts such as Rick is pursuing. Organizations should be 
encouraged to provide full disclosure.

 

 

 Some orgs a bit more on the fringe than others
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfdPFWiF9U 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAfdPFWiF9U

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Evidently the look of the Raja class is a large obstacle to the TM movement.  
Talking with active TM teachers from LA, DC, and NYC they report a substantial 
problem for them is while new meditators do like the meditation that it becomes 
some lot of work to get meditators to take the CIC/siddhis courses, and Then 
once those may come to Fairfield, go on retreats or look further in to the 
movement’s Vedic Science web pages and they see the ‘Global Country’ they don’t 
come back to the centers and go on. The whole patriarchy thing is too evidently 
some strange sect appearing as something of religion of ‘Vedic Science’ of 
sorts. A cult? Tone?
 ‘Caste’ is a form of social stratification characterized by endogamy, 
hereditary transmission of a lifestyle which often includes an occupation, 
status in a hierarchy, customary social interaction, and exclusion. Wikipedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caste
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, in a way with only a few hundred TM teachers working, this stage now is 
more like the later 1960’s and early 1970’s where a few TM teachers fanned out, 
were lecturing and a movement in popular culture came of it. Although whence 
that movement was about deep rest and mental potential this version comes with 
Rajas and Vedic studies. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I think at the height of the Merv wave 50K/month were learning.
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Purnima: the Raja class..


  
  
 It is said that TM initiated 28.5k new meditators last year in US America, a 
30% increase with all the good work of David Lynch Foundation and the Maharishi 
Foundation ™.org teachers.. Something like the Merv Wave of the mid-1970’s 
going on. . Something like 380 active trained ‘certified’ ™ teachers now in the 
US. in 1975 there were 6000 TM teachers in the US.  It works financially for 
teachers teaching is the active centers where there are larger metropolitan 
populations. Not so feasible in smaller areas. Teachers get 30 percent. The 
thing of men teaching men and women teaching women makes teaching very 
inefficient when it tends to be more women who come to meditation by three to 
one. The men teachers are not called on as much to teach. 
 


 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
mailto:skymt...@yahoo.com> wrote :
 They only have part 1 posted covering 5 questions (first one, "describe 7 
states of consciousness").
  

 On video, Haiglin said more than tens of thousands are learning TM in US each 
month, with many more world- wide. Sounds high. Does anyone have monthly or 
annual US and world TM course numbers?




 

[FairfieldLife] RWP Public Hearing Tues PLUS TODAY'S SCORING SESSION REPORT

[Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]]

Public Hearing THIS Tuesday, August 28 at 6:00 pm at Jefferson County Courtroom
51 W. Briggs Avenue, Fairfield

Please attend and let our supervisors know how you feel about Mark Greiner’s 
RWP, LLC 4998-head CAFO!

Public comments will have a 3-minute time limit. The DNR will only accept 
written comments. Bring written comments tomorrow night or submit to the 
Jefferson County Board of Supervisors 
 by 9:00 am September 12. 
You can still speak even if you don't submit written comments.

Report from Monday’s Master Matrix Scoring Session for RWP, LLC

Today the Jefferson County Board of Supervisors held the initial scoring 
session for Mark Greiner’s Master Matrix for RWP, LLC. This is for a 2499-head 
expansion to the current 2499-head confinement for a total of 4998 hogs.

Mr. Greiner was present as was Rachel Rinner from Knee Deep Solutions, preparer 
of his Master Matrix and manure management plan. At least a dozen people 
attended the scoring session, almost all of whom were JFAN supporters and 
concerned residents, including several JFAN board members.

The meeting started off with Sandquist explaining why a public hearing wasn't 
held for Bill Huber's Daniels Site due to the timing of Dick Reed's vacation. 
JFAN didn't challenge that assertion in the meeting, not wanting to start off 
on an adversarial footing, however we feel that there was an opportunity to 
hold a public hearing for the Daniels Master Matrix that we explain here. 

Rather than review each question individually, Sandquist asked for people to 
bring up their concerns on any of the questions in the Matrix. 

JFAN President and Executive Director Diane Rosenberg conducted a detailed 
review of the 100+ page Master Matrix application and contested four questions 
totaling 80 points that she urged Jefferson County Supervisors Dee Sandquist, 
Lee Dimmitt and Dick Reed to deny. 

Read JFAN's full written comments here. 

While discussion took place on all the following points JFAN contested, the 
supervisors didn’t make any final decisions about the scoring during the 
afternoon session. That will be done during a meeting in September (stay tuned 
for a follow up email on that meeting). 

The following is a summary of the discussion for each question.

Question 17 – Proposed manure storage structure is formed (30 points.)
On this question, Greiner is taking points for having a concrete confinement 
pit. Design, operation and maintenance plans are required for this question. 
Rosenberg said the maintenance plans were not adequate and discussed examples 
of what should be part of a plan. She also provided supervisors with a copy of 
the Master Matrix for an Adair County CAFO that had a more detailed plan that 
the DNR considered passable. Rinner countered that the operation plans included 
maintenance activities, but Rosenberg said even that didn’t cover many of the 
points she raised. 

Question 19 – Proposed confinement site has a suitable truck turnaround area so 
that semitrailers do not have to back into the facility from the road (20 
points)
Rosenberg pointed out that the design plan didn’t include an engineering 
drawing to demonstrate the turnaround was to be constructed at a required 
minimum of 120 feet. Only an aerial photograph with a drawing superimposed was 
submitted. Sandquist said she had talked with Paul Petitti, the DNR engineer in 
charge of reviewing this Master Matrix, and was told an engineering plan wasn’t 
required.

Rosenberg countered in what was to become an ongoing theme that the supervisors 
have discretion at how they score the Master Matrix. She pointed out that 
Chapter 65 of the Iowa Code doesn’t give supervisors a clear roadmap as to how 
to score the application and encouraged them to score the Matrix using the 
highest standards. There was a lot of discussion about this general point 
raised by others at different times during the scoring session.

Question 24 – Facility Size is 1 to 2000 animal unit capacity (20 points)
Grenier's application says he will have 1999.2 animal units (4998 hogs). 
Rosenberg reported on a discussion with former DNR employee Gene Tinker whose 
responsibility was to educate CAFO owners and supervisors on animal feeding 
operation regulations. Tinker told Rosenberg that the DNR can only ask how many 
hogs are intended to be placed in a confinement, not how many are in there once 
they are delivered nor can they go into a facility and count them. 

According to Mr. Tinker, the DNR knows that CAFOs are frequently stocked with 
100-200 or more hogs than their application states. The DNR went so far as to 
work with the Attorney General’s office to address the issue. The DNR was told 
the laws must be changed, and there was nothing they could do.

Rosenberg acknowledged that the Master Matrix 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Pass Large Hog Confinement Master Matrix

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No, both your reductionisms are boil down in only linear fashion. The puny Dome 
and the fragmented Fairfield program halls (..eleven (11) program halls 
scattered around the County and also people off by themselves) as numbers are 
just too small for the dull weight they lift.  

 The larger tragedy here is that apparatchiks of the Patterson-Morris-Maharishi 
era let the Dome numbers get so bad. Or that ill-disciplined good meditators 
like some.. abandoned their posts. 

 Superradiance critical mass evidently happens with numbers in proximity. 
Numbers and their proximity is in the basic science from the beginning, like 
the Bible says, where gathered ..there is superradiance. That superradiance 
lives as a reality of spiritual practice evident in the science and by 
experience while the peer science is still good in principle as it is 
replicated. In doubt you seem trying too hard to disgrace those who are here 
and what is at hand in contending simple linear reductions. Quite instead, you 
all should be here meditating for all sorts of good reasons in life. 
 Jai Guru Dev 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I was about to put up similar figures. The current estimated population of 
Iowa for 2018 is 3.16 million. 0.01% is 31,600  and √31,600 = 177.763888 which 
means you only need 178 people for program in Iowa.
 

 So that means if more hogs in Iowa near Fairfield represent the lack of 
support of the laws of nature, then the ME formula is false. Alternately if the 
formula is correct, then the presence of additional hog farms represents 
support of the laws of nature for the greater population of Iowa, and not based 
on the desire of a small contingent community with contrary ideas.
 

 Again, alternately, were the formula true, and more hogs come, the program 
itself must be faulty and not be implementing the effect.
 

 Regardless of a small part of the universe, the whole remains in balance. You 
have (at least seeming) control over action alone, never its fruits. This point 
in the Bhagavad-Gita always seems to be forgotten.
 

 Desiring a certain result and expecting it to always come true is known as 
spiritual materialism, and represents a lack of understanding of the nature of 
consciousness.
 

 

 On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 1:18:27 PM GMT, skymt...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote: 
 

 

 

 As simple and hopeful as the ME theory sounds, from my calcs, it does not add 
up.  
 

 Iowa has 3 million people.  Square root of .1% = 173. FF has 10,000 so 10 is 
ME threshold number for FF. From what I have read the low range of attendance 
in domes is around 400, which ME predicts should powerfully and positively 
affect across a much larger region, an area of 16 million.  The ME effects in 
FF and Iowa, one would expect from the ME theory to be extraordinary, after 30 
years of constant practice in the domes of at least 400, much larger in some 
eras.  The ME threshold is exceeded by at least a factor of 40 in FF, and a 
factor of 2 - 10 for Iowa over the years. 
 

 Yet FF and Iowa, on a comparative basis,  do not have exceptional crime 
reduction, or economic performance -- or any other measures that I can find.  
(And per the topic of this thread, CAFOs in Iowa have quadrupled since 2001, 
and are a growing problem negatively affecting the quality of life on many 
levels.) 
 

 What are the effects of ME in FF and Iowa that are consistent with its 
predictions?
 

 And beyond lack of noticeable effects on crime and economy in FF and Iowa,  
are there any studies indicating ME affects climate change? 
 

 I wish the challenge of climate change was as simple as having groups of ME 
practitioners totaling < 10,000 worldwide. However,  given the above, it does 
not seem credible or plausible. Better perhaps, that people world-wide meditate 
and then act with clearer minds to transform our economies and cultures towards 
a thriving civilization with zero to negative (via sequestration)  greenhouse 
gas emissions  
 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Pass Large Hog Confinement Master Matrix

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I was about to put up similar figures. The current estimated population of Iowa 
for 2018 is 3.16 million. 0.01% is 31,600  and √31,600 = 177.763888 which means 
you only need 178 people for program in Iowa.
So that means if more hogs in Iowa near Fairfield represent the lack of support 
of the laws of nature, then the ME formula is false. Alternately if the formula 
is correct, then the presence of additional hog farms represents support of the 
laws of nature for the greater population of Iowa, and not based on the desire 
of a small contingent community with contrary ideas.
Again, alternately, were the formula true, and more hogs come, the program 
itself must be faulty and not be implementing the effect.
Regardless of a small part of the universe, the whole remains in balance. You 
have (at least seeming) control over action alone, never its fruits. This point 
in the Bhagavad-Gita always seems to be forgotten.
Desiring a certain result and expecting it to always come true is known as 
spiritual materialism, and represents a lack of understanding of the nature of 
consciousness.


   On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 1:18:27 PM GMT, skymt...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     

Doug, 
As simple and hopeful as the ME theory sounds, from my calcs, it does not add 
up.  
Iowa has 3 million people.  Square root of .1% = 173. FF has 10,000 so 10 is ME 
threshold number for FF. From what I have read the low range of attendance in 
domes is around 400, which ME predicts should powerfully and positively affect 
across a much larger region, an area of 16 million.  The ME effects in FF and 
Iowa, one would expect from the ME theory to be extraordinary, after 30 years 
of constant practice in the domes of at least 400, much larger in some eras.  
The ME threshold is exceeded by at least a factor of 40 in FF, and a factor of 
2 - 10 for Iowa over the years. 
Yet FF and Iowa, on a comparative basis,  do not have exceptional crime 
reduction, or economic performance -- or any other measures that I can find.  
(And per the topic of this thread, CAFOs in Iowa have quadrupled since 2001, 
and are a growing problem negatively affecting the quality of life on many 
levels.) 
What are the effects of ME in FF and Iowa that are consistent with its 
predictions?    
And beyond lack of noticeable effects on crime and economy in FF and Iowa,  are 
there any studies indicating ME affects climate change? 
I wish the challenge of climate change was as simple as having groups of ME 
practitioners totaling < 10,000 worldwide. However,  given the above, it does 
not seem credible or plausible. Better perhaps, that people world-wide meditate 
and then act with clearer minds to transform our economies and cultures towards 
a thriving civilization with zero to negative (via sequestration)  greenhouse 
gas emissions