[FairfieldLife] Re: In Quiet, European ancestral genealogy of transcendentalism

2019-10-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 
 Persecutions by creedal religionists of mystics and their groups of separatist 
transcendentalists across Europe are often a theme in these communal 
narratives. 

 Recently retired to a safety in community of meditating Fairfield, Iowa a 
meditator’s spouse who practiced law for a career in NYC at a law firm kept 
their practice of meditation secret to avoid persecution. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Of the modern day persecution of transcendentalists, up in Wisconsin recently 
I ran into an older ™ initiator from there. This is someone who saw a TM intro 
lecture poster in 1969 in Madison, attended the lecture that was given by 
Walter Koch and learned ™ then in those times. 

 As a State certified teacher working in public school this person then fell 
victim to persecution for associating with ™.  Directly persecuted by school 
superintendents, building principals,other staff, parents asking that their 
kids not be taught by this person or parents going directly to the school board 
to have this person fired for fear this person might be teaching meditation to 
the children. The superintendent calling the local ™ center seeking information 
about this staff teacher. The teacher declined resignation and stayed on 
teaching. But the pressure was great to resign. 
  
 This followed for years affecting this person’s career advancement.  An irony 
now is that mindfulness meditation is taught in the public schools up there 
today.
  
 This person is retired now from teaching and still traumatized by the longer 
experience of it does not talk to friends and associates about meditating or 
being with Maharishi in those days. When the person found I was from Fairfield 
and an old initiator from those days a comparing of old stories opened up. 

 The person was a working school teacher then and made use of school breaks. We 
figured we attended the same weekend residence courses early on in Iowa City as 
new meditators, one month courses with Maharishi, a teacher training course 
with Maharishi, ATR courses with Maharishi in Europe, was with Maharishi in 
Fairfield too.

 This person used the word ‘persecution’ in recounting the experience 
throughout. It was stark. Early days of moving to Meditating Fairfield, Ia. 
gave a small taste of insight in to what persecution in Jim Crow might have 
been to someone who was otherwise majority Iowan, like me coming to Fairfield 
as a transcendental meditationist.

 Now though with a longer time of assimilation the separation is not nearly so 
great in Fairfield.  And evidently, the postmodern is catching up with Madison, 
Wisconsin too as they are teaching meditation in their schools now.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 In victimization of separatist movements by the hands of creedal religionists 
persecution runs throughout the narratives of these historic satsanga groups 
across Europe and across time as they formed. 
As transcendentalist and essentially heretical to the religious belief and 
ideology of God the Father Church, these ‘separatist’ groups and their 
practitioners evidently fell victim to a State of fear within religious 
formality throughout Europe.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Separating the heterodox and heretical..  A Christian statement of belief, The 
Athanasian Creed it differs from the Nicene-Constantinopolitan 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed and Apostles' Creeds 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostles%27_Creed in the inclusion of anathemas 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema, or condemnations of those who disagree 
with the creed (like the original Nicene Creed 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 
..which various anathemas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema against Arian 
propositions were added.[15] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#cite_note-15).. All mainstream 
branches[citation needed 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed] of Christianity now 
consider (Arianism in that case) to be heterodox 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterodoxy and heretical 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy. The Ecumenical First Council of Nicaea 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea of 325 deemed it to be a 
heresy.[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#cite_note-Ferguson2013-3
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasian_Creed
 ..Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the 
catholic faith. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled; 
without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anathema

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 “The most beautiful emotion we can experience is the mystical. It is the power 
of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion 

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2019-10-18 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As a backup, someone some while ago set up a parallel archive of posts made to 
FFL.
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo Groups shutting down

2019-10-18 Thread Bhairitu noozgur...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
The problem is many read Yahoo Groups on their phone browser.  They 
probably don't want to deal with email on their phone.

On 10/18/19 8:41 AM, maha_brahman wrote:
>
> Read on the internet:
>
>
> Google Groups will continue. Yahoo Groups  will continue, but only 
> private. Communications would only come across in email, including 
> content.
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host 
> user created content on its sites. New content can no longer be 
> uploaded after October 28, 2019.
>
> The conversation continues:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.meditation.transcendental
>
>
> ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
> The tech press is beginning to pick it up as a story. It basically
> seems to be going back to an email group.
>
> https://www.pcmag.com/news/371369/still-use-yahoo-groups-content-will-be-deleted-on-dec-14
>
> Groups.io is one alternative:
>
> https://lifehacker.com/drop-google-and-facebook-groups-and-use-this-instead-1823994067
>
>
> On 10/16/19 1:44 PM, jr_esq@... 
> [FairfieldLife] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I saw this.  What's the alternative?  Does this mean
> the end to
> > this group?
> >
> > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> ,  wrote :
> >
> > Did everyone see this?
> >
> > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html
> >
> > 
>
> 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo Groups shutting down

2019-10-18 Thread maha_brahman
Read on the internet: 

 Google Groups will continue. Yahoo Groups  will continue, but only private. 
Communications would only come across in email, including content. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host user 
created content on its sites. New content can no longer be uploaded after 
October 28, 2019.
 

 The conversation continues:
 

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.meditation.transcendental 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.meditation.transcendental
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The tech press is beginning to pick it up as a story.  It basically 
 seems to be going back to an email group.
 
 
https://www.pcmag.com/news/371369/still-use-yahoo-groups-content-will-be-deleted-on-dec-14
 
https://www.pcmag.com/news/371369/still-use-yahoo-groups-content-will-be-deleted-on-dec-14
 
 Groups.io is one alternative:
 
 
https://lifehacker.com/drop-google-and-facebook-groups-and-use-this-instead-1823994067
 
https://lifehacker.com/drop-google-and-facebook-groups-and-use-this-instead-1823994067
 
 
 On 10/16/19 1:44 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 > Yes, I saw this.  What's the alternative?  Does this mean the end to 
 > this group?
 >
 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 >  wrote :
 >
 > Did everyone see this?
 >
 > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html 
 > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html
 >
 > 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yahoo Groups shutting down

2019-10-18 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 I thought Yahoo may try to compete with YouTube.  It appears many people would 
want to just post a film clip of their news or opinions.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Willy has been posting there for years.  No Judy and Barry aren't 
 there.  Yahoo Groups will be functioning as an email list but who knows 
 how long that will last.  Many groups fled two or three years ago to 
 other locations.
 
 I think a lot "the elite" woke up and discovered there was too much 
 "free speech" on "the Internets". ;-)
 
 On 10/17/19 12:16 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 >
 >
 > I saw a familiar name at altmeditation in WillyTex.  I wonder if Judy 
 > and Barry are over there.  Does anyone know?
 >
 >
 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 > mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :
 >
 > Attention: Starting December 14, 2019 Yahoo Groups will no longer host 
 > user created content on its sites. New content can no longer be 
 > uploaded after October 28, 2019.
 >
 > The conversation continues:
 >
 > https://groups.google.com/forum/#! 
 > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/alt.meditation.transcendental
 >
 >
 > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 >  wrote :
 >
 > The tech press is beginning to pick it up as a story. It basically
 > seems to be going back to an email group.
 >
 > https://www.pcmag.com/news/371369/still-use-yahoo-groups-content-will-be-deleted-on-dec-14
 >  
 > https://www.pcmag.com/news/371369/still-use-yahoo-groups-content-will-be-deleted-on-dec-14
 >
 > Groups.io is one alternative:
 >
 > https://lifehacker.com/drop-google-and-facebook-groups-and-use-this-instead-1823994067
 >  
 > https://lifehacker.com/drop-google-and-facebook-groups-and-use-this-instead-1823994067
 >
 >
 > On 10/16/19 1:44 PM, jr_esq@... 
 > [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Yes, I saw this.  What's the alternative?  Does this mean
 > the end to
 > > this group?
 > >
 > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 > , 
 >  wrote :
 > >
 > > Did everyone see this?
 > >
 > > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html 
 > > https://help.yahoo.com/kb/groups/SLN31010.html
 > >
 > > 
 >
 >