[FairfieldLife] Re: Virtual Water

2006-10-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: It takes 140 litres of water to produce one cup of coffee. No wonder

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chakras and verbs for (negative) emotions?

2006-10-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the Age of Enlightenment we won't have anuses nor will we have genitals. Great. A whole planet full of people who are full of shit. But they can't reproduce, so at least it won't last for long... To subscribe, send

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote: More cogently, we have to ask whether the research approach is really appropriate to the subject. Are brainwave measurements, no matter how

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer groups@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: If that's the way some people choose to live their lives, cool. Those of us who actually have subjective experiences of interesting aspects

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Oct 25, 2006, at 6:46 AM, sparaig wrote: Allegedly, someone who is fully enlightened remembers all their past lives. Well usually not ALL,

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seldom claim experiences, but I'm pretty sure I've mentioned episodes of witnessing dreaming, witnessing sleep and witnessing waking states. Additionally, I've mentioned what I believe may have been a flash of Unity

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Oct 25, 2006, at 4:08 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just spent half an hour typing a reply to this but my computer crashed when I pressed send, is that Karma? Almost certainly. However, the deeper question in this context is whether its memory persisted after its

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
Precisely. The brain is merely the hardware of consciousness. Fortunately for us, consciousness can exist separately from that hardware. Oh yeah? prove it! As it turns out, there is a fairly simple way of proving this. And, as it turns out, you yourself will be one

[FairfieldLife] Re: David Bruce Hughes on studying consciousness

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
Whenever I hear something like this, I find myself wondering whether everyone who says it has completely forgotten the Bardo experience, between death and rebirth. Consciousness doesn't stop. It's there while the body is lying dead in its coffin and the brain is no longer functioning,

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a chef finally

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: French restaurant three blocks from my house. My menu. See here www.flamingtorchnola.com Excellent, dude. I saw a film the other night that made me think of you. It's called Vatel, and it's well worth a rental. Directed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dubya ain't the only one getting his instructions fro...

2006-10-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Show me a Biblical reference to abortion or homosexuality being sanctioned by God and we'll discuss it. Show me a Bible with God's own signature on the cover page, and I'll believe that it isn't just fiction written by men.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Who said?

2005-12-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The secret of happiness is to face the fact that the world is horrible, horrible, horrible Bertrand Russell. Having been born British, and thus convinced that he knew the English language without studying it, he

[FairfieldLife] Seriously now folks

2005-12-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it certanly is up there along with the recent Dr. Pete/Braamaan exchanges as well as the ongoing soap opera of Tom P. versus the world and, of course, the Barry/Judy exchanges that remind me of the SNL skit with Jane

[FairfieldLife] Re: Can't evalue TM without direct experience.

2005-12-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 21, 2005, at 10:06 AM, ffia1120 wrote: H... I wonder if MMY's pronouncements about various aspects of life are half-baked hypotheses devoid of fact since he obviously has not had direct experience with

[FairfieldLife] Re: 50th anniversary of the publication of Lolita.

2005-12-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What can you say about one's career when you peak at age 15 and then everything is downhill from there? Whatever happened to...? http://www.ex-premie.org/pages/hinduismtoday83.htm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yug in India.??

2005-12-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/21/05 7:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if the beach is loaded with people throwing back starfish, and you know of an isolated cove that no-one goes to where a rare starfish makes its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yug in India.??

2005-12-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/21/05 7:27 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if the beach is loaded with people throwing back starfish, and you know

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where can I get an IKEA Boeing 707? I was wondering the same thing. The new IKEA in Montpellier carries only Airbus planes. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi walked away from middle class life after he left college, to live a simple life, sleeping on the ground outside Guru Dev's door. After Guru Dev died, MMY lived in a cave for a while, then was inspired to go

[FairfieldLife] Beginner's Mind film review...

2005-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few. -- Shunryu Suzuki-roshi This is a particularly apt quote when reviewing a film that everyone thinks that they know by heart. King Kong is like that. Ask almost anyone, and they'll tell you they know all

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 12:01 AM, bbrigante wrote: his generous service to the world. What service might that be? Bob has a tendency to redefine words and concepts to match his preconceptions. So 'service' in this case may be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hoo Ray!

2005-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFL has been reassigned to the Spirituality category. This means that it can now be found

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/23/05 12:30 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob is dealing in fantasy. When Maharishi was in the US for the first Merv TV show, the hotel bill for his four days' stay at the Beverly Wilshire

[FairfieldLife] Re: Beginner's Mind film review...

2005-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you seen any of Jackson's early films? Such as Meet the Feebles and Bad Taste? Feebles is like the muppets on acid and quite a hoot. I can see from these why studio execs had confidence Jackson could bring in

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Maharishi was a target of the CIA This is utter, unproven crap. Not to mention being a fantasy based in self

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody - some remarkable Guru - must appear on the scene with a visible demonstration of Siddhis. Why should the performance of

[FairfieldLife] Best wishes to the birthday boy

2005-12-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Roughly two thousand years ago, a gentle man woke up to the equally gentle realization of who and what he really was -- infinity dancing in the finite. When he woke up, he realized that this new perception of being awake was not new; it had always already been present. He had just ignored it

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 24, 2005, at 12:45 AM, authfriend wrote: snip I gather you find it simply insufferable that MMY would act according to his beliefs.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Adult category seems to have been removed

2005-12-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/24/05 1:04 AM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus. And there's a Grinch too, but Santa Claus appears to have won. Just FYI, the Grinch seems to be losing it

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-24 Thread TurquoiseB
From my perspective, a lot of the rancor appears to be a function of the True Non-Believers' difficulty dealing with anybody who is neither a TB nor a TNB but somewhere in between. TBs can just be dismissed, but a mixture of views on MMY and the TMO, some positive and some negative, in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: all hail to auth friend

2005-12-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: auth friend, you're vanquishing all your opponents today. You're wiping the floor with them! Trouble is, most of the time they're too dim to realize it. But I do wonder why you continually choose to present your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplan $ returned, : Movement sells building for 112 Million

2005-12-24 Thread TurquoiseB
Prediction: Kaplan will be involved in TM again within 10 years. Prediction: UFO's will land on the White House lawn by 2012. Prediction: Dick Cheney will turn out to be a 30 foot cockroach from another planet. Cheater! That's already happened. Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-24 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From my perspective, a lot of the rancor appears to be a function of the True Non-Believers' difficulty dealing with anybody who is neither

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not *about* the CIA. It's about eltitists' innate need to feel important. The TM organization panders to elitism. It tells its

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...on a totally different topic: Note your grammar above. You wrote: Me, I don't personally I've seen you do that before, Tantra, and I suspect that this has crept into your lexicon from living in France! Do

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/26/05 1:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not generally. Are you talking about the attempts to avoid paying taxes. Par for the course in some parts of the world. The CIA wouldn't bother with that

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is? Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is that these TBs feel more important if the CIA was persecuting the cult they were involved with, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And we all know the story of Leon Weiner actually getting busted trying to carry cash from Mallorca to Switzerland. And Billy and Shannon paying off the Spanish officials to get him out. Par for the course

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paying off the Spanish officials to get him out. Par for the course during that time. Why do you think it was so easy to pay off

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: paying off the Spanish officials to get him out

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to clarify, this isn't a statement about you per se but about the nature of ethics. IMO, unethical behavior is almost *defined

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er,nope. It just means that its futile to single out a single organization or person for criticism when everyone else is doing it too. You really *don't* understand the concept of ethics, do you? :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about KGB. Did MMY accept that they were in the TMO. I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
How important we must be that the CIA and the KGB bothered with our little spiritual group...I guess we must have been on to something SO earth-shattering that these organisations took an interest in us. Yup. That's exactly my take on all this as well. The clinging to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic that causes him to lash out at a calm and rational discussion of TMO history that may or may not have basis in fact. Wanting to continue to believe that

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone who wasn't explicitly aligned with the U.S. government suspected the CIA was spying on them. It didn't have anything to do with wanting to believe one was

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/27/05 12:45 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Honestly, I think Barry should reflect the internal dynamic that causes

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think the more interesting question is why merely discussing this topic is such a bee under Barry's bonnet. It's not, actually. I just find it interesting that Shemp is the only one here who is

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Barry has a bee under his bonnet on this issue because

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you obsessed with Barry? Barry is cute with milky-white skin and silky-smooth buttocks. Shemp obviously has unauthorized

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, BTW, note how carefully Barry avoided my point.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are you obsessed with Barry? I'm not. However, his recent acting out has gotten under my skin a bit, so you could say I'm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This subtle, celestial stuff is absolutely, incredibly, charming, fascinating, mind-blowing when it opens-up, but it really has nothing to do with Realization. Like the TM-siddhis, the value is in the practice of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
John Cowhig now has a job walking around in the forest looking for pieces of wood suitable for making guitars. Sounds like a nice job to me. Who does he work for? I'm interested, too, not because John Cowhig means anything to me, but because I know a few good luthiers, and am

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sure they took a hard look at the TMO, chuckled, filed some reports, and then moved on. If there was ever any truth in the CIA interest in TM, I'm sure that description pretty much covers it. However, I would change

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that, as I noted a few posts back, virtually everyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When did the CIA get forbidden to dabble in domestic affairs? Was it before Kennedy or after? The CIA has *always* been forbidden to work on investi- gations that are centered within the United States. It's part of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Canada Restricts Import of Ayurvedic Medicines Due to High Heavy Metal Content

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Canada Restricts Import of Ayurvedic Medicines Due to High Heavy Metal Content MAPI has been testing for heavy metal contamination for some time

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
to someone? It gets to be a habit... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This subtle, celestial stuff is absolutely, incredibly, charming, fascinating, mind-blowing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It strikes me as a little bit crazy that we talk so much theory around here. This master says this. That master say that. That's fine, but what does *your* research reveal? Maybe I'm harping on this because

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
And Judy's an old windbag who doesn't understand that her defintion of 'dishonesty' is 'anything that'll allow me to argue with someone in public.' No *wonder* nobody really cares. :-) Actually I much prefer discussion to argument. But discussion with someone who is consistently

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
that being a dishonest, pompous, self-important asshole (were that true) is better than being a spiritual retard. :-) :-) :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
How can this guy have experiences of realization and not be the least bit aware of his addiction to being a dishonest, pompous, self-important asshole? Because he is having 'experiences of realization', plural. Realization is not something that comes and goes. All the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool. If you're claiming to be Realized, that can be your definition of what you're claiming to be, eh? I'm not claiming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-28 Thread TurquoiseB
Cool. If you're claiming to be Realized, that can be your definition of what you're claiming to be, eh? I'm not claiming to be anything... No claims here. No claim checks needed either ;). Just writing about experience. What else is there? The difference seems to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig wrote: Being without expectations becomes less and less easy the more you hear your own and other's experiences, especially in a casual context. If I'd reading you right, Lawson, you're saying

[FairfieldLife] Re: New disease in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
The media is full of images and stories of Britain's increasing culture of heavy boozing - particularly among young women. Tony Blair has labelled it as a new British diseaseAnd if you're left thinking that my five-night-a-week binge was extreme, remember, it's only

[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only value in hearing about others' experiencing is that it is entertaining and it can clarify certain concepts that pertain to higher states of consciousness. Having a quiver of these concepts at your ready is helpful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find that discussing experiences enlivens them. Maharishi prescribed it for that reason too, in certain contexts. That might be, but I doubt he had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Empiricism vs. Theory

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/29/05 3:38 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: New disease in Scorpionland

2005-12-29 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Faces of Meth: http://www.lifeormeth.com/facesofmeth Powerful statement. I once saw a set of Before and After photos that someone had put together of people who practiced channeling. Same kind of

[FairfieldLife] Re: New disease in Scorpionland

2005-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, in other news, today marks ten years of sobriety

[FairfieldLife] Re: New disease in Scorpionland

2005-12-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL. I understand. There was a period of a couple of years when I was studying Tibetan forms of dream yoga. This involved lucid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Myths, lies, and straight talk

2005-12-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123606 The missing Myth #1 must have been, ABC Reporters can count. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris on Mysticism vs Faith based religion.

2005-12-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gnostic tradition of the Christian church was almost utterly crushed-out by the 400AD.

[FairfieldLife] Re: DEBATE GOING ON

2005-12-31 Thread TurquoiseB
DEBATE GOING ON * CAN A WOMAN WHO USED TO BE IN THE SEX TRADE (DANCING DOMINATION) BECOME A GURU? * CAN SOMEONE WHO ONCE HAD AN ACTIVE SEX LIFE BECOME ENLIGHTENED? * CAN MEN WHO USED TO BE ADDICTED TO PORN AND PROSTITUTES BECOME ENLIGHTENED? * CAN A HOMOSEXUAL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2005-12-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 12/31/05 2:23 PM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rajas Name: Schiffgens He and his verry,verry close male friend paticipated in the raja training but havend been cround jet. The world's first gay

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/1/06 9:35 AM, mrsatva at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because it got too weird for people, or what ? Probebly all the reasons why people are leaving the TMO... I have been thinking about it for quit some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (...) the reason for this is that the predominant myth in the TMO is the importance of one's personal enlightenment (...) terms of social interaction. Does this meen, most tm peoples think that they can reach

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is safe to say that one could spend an entire lifetime in the TM movement and never hear the concept of one's everyday actions

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
I think teaching TM is a good thing, but when I think about the TMO I'm reminded of this quote from Jung: Hysterical self- deceivers...pretend to be seekers after God in order not to have to face the truth that they are ordinary egoists. Not ordinary, extraordinary egoists. No,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, I don't think the TMO overall rude behavior can be attributed to stress release. Much of the TMO's culture has been set by MMY's behavior and directives. Most of us who have been raised in democracies and in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mrsatva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that any different than the way a corporation functions? No. Should it be? In my opinion, yes. Unless you believe that organizations that profess to teach a pathway to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anandamayi and Ramana Maharishi are perfect examples of this fourth way. It's the easiest and most difficult way of all. You just gotta be at the right place at the right

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's strange to me is the lack of young people in positions of influence (in the TMO). Why is that? Young people still have minds of their own. Can't have that. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pretty much agree with you, but Maharishi said he had hoped to take over the political administration of the world, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: From a fellow in Hamburg

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
The last time I was in Hamburg, I noticed a lot of people wearing tinfoils hats and looking nervously over their shoulders at the imaginary people who were following them. Little did I know at the time that they were TMers. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had a heartatacc Based on his actions, we can't even be certain he has a heart. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had a heartatacc Based on his actions, however, we're fairly certain that he hasn't got a heart. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 11:30 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Based on his actions, we can't even be certain he has a heart.  :-) And based on the actions of many of his current followers, I think we can be fairly certain

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post, Michael. Just wanted to add my two rupees. All the decades of meditation lead to incredible sattva, but not yet enlightenment because of the thinnest thread of attachment to a concept of enlightenment (i.e.,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 5:50 PM, off_world_beings wrote: I know what you mean't . I will probably put some in myself, and ask others to contribute. Are you ready to give up your cafe-lattes so that some inner city kid can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Along these lines I had the experience of visiting Manhattan (NYC) several years ago and stopped up to the very small center they now have (or at least had then). I went to get my meditation checked and as I sat

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM cafe

2006-01-04 Thread TurquoiseB
, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on recent discussions, I'm going to start a cafe for TM True Believers in which they pay me $2500 for a membership, and then they get their daily lattes for free for the next two years. Given that many of these TBs can't seem to tell

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM cafe

2006-01-04 Thread TurquoiseB
. And it's not new. Wasn't it Ishvarakrishna who founded Sanka Yoga back in the 4th century? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually I have this technique

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 10:58 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you tell us more about the Purusha center in the Himalayas. I haven¹t gotten to it yet, but I think there¹s a chapter about it in Steve Briggs¹ book. He

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