Re: [FairfieldLife] mind boggling

2012-08-25 Thread Vaj
On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:14 AM, awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: So Xeno writes the other day to Judy: I feel Barry is more spiritually advanced than Robin This alone made my head spin. But just, for example, take a look at Robin's commentary to Emily after she took his quiz

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj your words meant a great deal to me. Thank You

2012-08-09 Thread Vaj
On Aug 8, 2012, at 5:23 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Vaj was never on that summer course--you are falsifying your conscience here, LK. This is despicable. You must only use the truth to get to the truth. I think it's time for that shirtless bear hug (SBH) R. I should have given you a gentle

Re: [FairfieldLife] Vaj your words meant a great deal to me. Thank You

2012-08-09 Thread Vaj
On Aug 8, 2012, at 4:54 PM, lordknows888 wrote: Your words written today to Robin If the walls of Sunnyside had decided to talk, they couldn't have spoken with more honesty and integrity. And bravery. ring in my heart and mind not because they are complimentary, but because it brings to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj your words meant a great deal to me. Thank You

2012-08-09 Thread Vaj
into the cold. Have you noticed, Vaj, that (as far as I've been able to tell) zero attempts to deal with the actual *content* of the things LordKnows posted about Sunnyside? The suicide attempts, the confrontations that resulted in psychic distress or trauma to those they were aimed at? It's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robin your last post has a double message ((shades of yesteryear)

2012-08-08 Thread Vaj
On Aug 7, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Dear Vaj,, I am sure you can explain this, but why is it that your post here contains what Lord Knows posted 22 minutes later. Are you colluding with Lord Knows?--surely you can provide some explanation for what seems suspiciously like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Robin your last post has a double message ((shades of yesteryear)

2012-08-08 Thread Vaj
On Aug 8, 2012, at 9:51 AM, awoelflebater wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 7, 2012, at 6:19 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Dear Vaj,, I am sure you can explain this, but why is it that your post here contains what Lord Knows posted 22 minutes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Some facts and background on Robin Carlsen / umasking the zebra

2012-08-07 Thread Vaj
This would make an excellent starting point for a RWC and WTS FAQ, in my opinion. It’s the bitch-slap of enlightened insight. Thanks for taking the time, effort and emotional digging it took to write this. And ditto on wishing RWC the best - think of it as a ‘shirts off bear hug' R. :-). On

Re: [FairfieldLife] Robin your last post has a double message ((shades of yesteryear)

2012-08-07 Thread Vaj
On Aug 7, 2012, at 4:35 PM, lordknows888 lordknows...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Robin, 1) I am a single author and not a composite of authors 2)I did not state that you were psychotic and that you were going to hell, I stated I thought you were mentally unbalanced. 3)I live my life holding

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 5, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Susan wrote: I recall a lecture MMY gave in the early 70's where he said that Guru Dev was a bal brahmachary and that he himself was not (meaning MMY was possibly celibate, but not a lifelong celibate). MMY claimed in his last interview with Larry King on CCN

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 5, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: And then again , maybe he realized his karma, for killing a man in his youth, was coming to fruition. The story is TWB was in the Indian Navy as a youngster and he killed a man. He ran off and became a great Yogi and then exited as he made

Re: [FairfieldLife] An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:48 AM, turquoiseb wrote: 4. Once you *had* settled on these two people to spray with invective, how did you know what their common derogatory nicknames were on this forum? I mean, you called vajradhatu108 Vag, a derog- atory and insulting permutation of his posting ID that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open letter to the person posting as Dan Friedman

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2012, at 10:33 AM, turquoiseb wrote: Not according to Ikky#363;, 15th-century Zen Master and poet: A Woman's Sex It has the original mouth but remains wordless; It is surrounded by a magnificent mound of hair. Sentient beings can get completely lost in it But it is also the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Duveyoung wrote: Come on, someone must have something to say about this. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote: Seems to me all the present experts can do is cast for Earth. But maybe with some datafeed from NASA could give a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can a jyotish chart be cast for Curiosity?

2012-08-06 Thread Vaj
On Aug 6, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: Besides being nonsensical from a logical perspective because the 'influences' of the various celestial bodies are only spelled out in an incredibly vague way, astrology has problems even on Earth. There are no

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dan Friedman

2012-08-05 Thread Vaj
On Aug 5, 2012, at 1:50 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Mr Friedman, you vocabulary seems have undergone considerable attrition compared to earlier posts. Perhaps you should have a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-05 Thread Vaj
On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig lengli...@cox.net wrote: I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly and brutally murdered. Why? Perhaps he didn't care if he was murdered? So you’re posing that he was suicidal?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-05 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2012, at 7:52 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: That's a pretty incredible story. Are you implying this was Mahesh or was it some other yogi? Some other yogi. MMY loved TWB, and was in Switzerland when he was murdered. The news came as quite a shock to him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-05 Thread Vaj
On Aug 5, 2012, at 5:40 PM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:45 AM, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I kinda lost any hope that TWB had such omniscience when he was so sadly

Re: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:15 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vaj Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:52 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview

Re: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-04 Thread Vaj
On Aug 4, 2012, at 11:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: I met TWB only days before he was murdered. I walked up the side of the mountain to his cave with a doctor on his way to give TWB a cortisone shot for either hip or back pain. That was October of '73. In October of '95 or

[FairfieldLife] Russia moves nuclear missiles into Cuba

2012-08-03 Thread Vaj
In 2001 I, as the President of the Russian Federation and the supreme commander, deemed it advantageous to withdraw the radio- electronic center Lourdes from Cuba. In exchange for this, George Bush, the then U.S. president, has assured me that this decision would become the final

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

2012-08-03 Thread Vaj
On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:26 AM, awoelflebater wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, feste37 feste37@... wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

2012-08-03 Thread Vaj
. Thanks, but I'm fine. How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for some couples evolution? Not the same as undertaking the procedure. As I said, everyone is a free agent. Choice, Vaj, choice. No guns to anyone's head. But you ignore the key component here

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gullible Seeker Syndrome

2012-08-03 Thread Vaj
On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, turquoiseb wrote: I'm going to chop out the specifics in your comments, Vaj, and reply to them as the more generic statements they are. This is *not* a TM-specific issue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: The key trick was look

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-03 Thread Vaj
On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.com wrote: See how all the most holy monks in Rishikish came to pay their respects to Maharishi the very morning after his first assignation with Judith Bourque. They, these enlightened monks, could never have conceived of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Celibate Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

2012-08-03 Thread Vaj
Maharishi and the TM movement. My faith in Maharishi's supposed perfection dissipated when he got sexually involved with Jennifer. Then when she left him and went to hide out in Switzerland with Bev and Fran, I observed him reduced to the status of a quivering adolescent. Vaj - apparently great yogic

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

2012-08-02 Thread Vaj
On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:13 AM, awoelflebater wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

2012-08-02 Thread Vaj
On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:14 AM, turquoiseb wrote: As I suggested earlier, I'm stayin' out of this one. :-) All I did was forward a music video, under the same Subject title that the person who sent it to me in email did. FFL personalities aside, I thought it was a perfect soundtrack to the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

2012-08-02 Thread Vaj
On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:18 PM, iranitea wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: The examples you cite are not of people being controlled by the TMO. They are examples of people being excluded from the dome, which is quite different. No one is being

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM, the Dome Badge, and Religious Practices

2012-08-02 Thread Vaj
On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:35 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: While it makes sense that dome admins want and need to have everyone compliant if they are to actually be doing 'the same program at the same time'. The not-so-obvious downside

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

2012-08-02 Thread Vaj
On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, feste37 fest...@yahoo.com wrote: So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My, oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. I have never

[FairfieldLife] Blue Man Group and Dr. Dan Siegel

2012-08-02 Thread Vaj
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ0IEttCjj0 Blue Man Group and Dr. Dan Siegel team up to illustrate the principle behind his new book, Mindsight: The New Science of Personal Transformation! A groundbreaking book on the healing power of mindsight, the potent skill that is the basis for both

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gore Vidal Dies

2012-08-01 Thread Vaj
On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: The writer Gore Vidal died yesterday. I only read one work of his but it had a wide influence on my life. I was all of 14 or 15 when it crossed my path. The book was 'Messiah', a novel about the rise of a fictional death cult

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Robin Carlsen Story

2012-08-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 31, 2012, at 3:56 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Someone just sent this to me in email, suggesting unkindly that the four people in it reminded him of FFL lately. I make no comment whatsoever on that, but forward the link because it made me chuckle, and might do the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: to whom it may concern

2012-07-31 Thread Vaj
On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:39 PM, feste37 wrote: We can agree to differ. If, as you suggest, Stupid Sal may be lurking here, she is free to delurk and reveal her stupidity and nastiness once more so we can all marvel at it. I brought her up because she came to mind as such a stark contrast to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

2012-07-29 Thread Vaj
On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:34 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Welcome back, Vaj! Interesting thoughts. One thing that is also a misunderstanding of the terms subtle and vague. The instruction in TM is always to pick up the mantra on the level of thought, where one just

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

2012-07-29 Thread Vaj
On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:01 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Vaj said: Someone practicing at the finest levels will be able to experience around 512 thought-recitations of mantra to the average beginners 1 vibration. If we would have just one person practicing like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

2012-07-29 Thread Vaj
On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:37 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: This may also be why more and more Domers are incorporating Mindfulness into their TM practice (MTM). This is helping compensate for the over

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

2012-07-29 Thread Vaj
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:12 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Vaj, do you realize that MTM also stand for Mary Tyler Moore and that this came out in the famous Merv Griffin Show with Maharishi and Clint and Mary? MTM was the name of her production company. She made a joke about

Re: [FairfieldLife] SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

2012-07-29 Thread Vaj
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks. This is clear and very helpful. Just one question: it seems you are using awareness, presence and remembering interchangeably (see snip below). Am I understanding correctly? over-arching awareness or

[FairfieldLife] That infamous chord...

2012-07-29 Thread Vaj
Jhang! The opening chord of A Hard Days Night. I always played a Gsus4 or a couple other variations in the first position. The Complete Beatles score actually notates two guitars and McCartney’s bass: my aforementioned Gsus4 as guitar one and guitar two is Gsus4 (III), full barre. Paul plays a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: That infamous chord...

2012-07-29 Thread Vaj
On Jul 29, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Probably a mistake but they liked the sound of it enough to leave it in. So you have all these music pundits trying to figure out what may well have been a mistake. Gee, haven't they even made such a mistake and though

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SSRS's instruction on silent awareness during meditation

2012-07-28 Thread Vaj
On Jul 27, 2012, at 7:42 AM, iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Determining whether or not the mantra is subtle isn't part of TM practice. Lawson, you were making the point, that just thinking OF the mantra, would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Paxil (or stuff) to blame!?

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 6:28 AM, cardemaister wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492 At least 14 people have been killed in a shooting at a Batman film premiere in the US city of Denver, police say. About 50 people have been injured in the incident at the cinema complex

Re: [FairfieldLife] Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 3:07 AM, turquoiseb wrote: There are times when people's desire and need for attention -- and the extent to which they'll go to get it -- just amazes me. Lawson is still pissed off because I backed out of what he perceived as an argument he could win, and refused to waste

Re: [FairfieldLife] What is spiritual?

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Share Long wrote: The Great Oz has spoken! Now the Great Ozette will too! It's all spiritual. Wow. Spiritual absolutism. Is that what they mean by falling into extremes? Best mileage around (-: btw, is it possible to know who curtis is? A spiritual

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 8:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote: he did Tolkien intend the LOTR as a Christian allegory non-debate, or the fact that he's been active on Reddit, making controversial posts about TM and its supposed science, provoking debates, and then coming back here and begging for FFLers to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 9:45 AM, awoelflebater wrote: A few possible middle names for Barry if he doesn't already possess one, and some even if he does: Barry I'm so bored Wright Barry I don't give a shit Wright Barry you're a waste of my time Wright Barry I couldn't care less Wright Barry

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 9:53 AM, awoelflebater wrote: Hi Vaj, you asked me earlier to give you an example of your anger that I pointed out to you that I felt you were riddled with. Now do me a favour and just read what you wrote below, what you supported there. Now I would be interested

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: What I have done is to accuse you of lying about having been initiated into TM, having confronted me in Washington, DC, and having met me in person or attended one of my seminars. Well there you have it, so now you admit you did lie.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 11:21 AM, iranitea wrote: Doesn't what Ann says directly contradict Robby boy? His 'your not having met me' and her 'I know your history with Robin' and 'You never experienced the Full Robin' seems to indicate that she agrees he actually met Robin in person, (even

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 12:15 PM, iranitea wrote: This is the typical 'appeal to popularity' fallacy. http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-popularity.html The Appeal to Popularity has the following form: Most people approve of X (have favourable emotions towards X). Therefore X is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tantrum Yoga

2012-07-20 Thread Vaj
On Jul 20, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Not only this, I could never conceive of someone who deliberately spread lies with the intent to harm *even having the possibility of having numerous lovable and positive qualities. Can you? I usually can find something positive or

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 12:14 AM, awoelflebater wrote: Hey Vaj, I haven't spoken (written) to you for a while. Can I ask you something? I know your history with Robin, I know you, but just the teeniest bit, and I really have to wonder. For someone who jumped into the early days of WTS

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 12:09 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Come on, Vaj: You'll love it. Being straightforward, direct, true. Read all that I have said here and address it head-on. Have you ever considered doing a bardo retreat? Then death will no longer be a mystery. Better to practice dying

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Former Navy SEAL Launches PAC To Fight Obama

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:57 PM, sparaig wrote: What I wonder is why he thinks that Mitt Romney would somehow make better decisions about the military than Obama. I don't recall hearing ANYTHIGN substantive from Romney on military issues. Hasn't he indicated that he'd invade Iran AND that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. Almost everything he says that he is or pretends to be is in relation to Maharishi. His whole spiel *requires* in the listener a knowledge of Maharishi and what he taught to make any sense of it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
! In your model the state never becomes a stage. /me sighs. Post bookmarked for future reference next time Vaj claims to understand TM. Of course to refute this you'd have to ignore the numerous statements of MMY where he describes the transition to nitya-samadhi- which really

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 8:48 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 19, 2012, at 1:02 AM, turquoiseb wrote: RC strikes me as *dependent* on Maharishi. Still. Almost everything he says that he is or pretends to be is in relation

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 9:49 AM, awoelflebater wrote: Ah, but maybe you could have allowed them to go where straight logic and analytic argument can not. Go where you are perhaps just a tad softer, nicer, perhaps more human(e). It has to be in there Vaj. You can show us, we want to see

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: But by the way you say something I want to remark on: 'Even such a doctrine as the Incarnation may be believed by people like yourself', as a mystery, till it is formulated, but as soon as it is it seems dragged down to the world of pros

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Vaj: Remember I've seen R. blow his stack enough times that I know he's not always Mr. Sattva. Response: And you forgot to bring your flowers and fruit and a white

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-19 Thread Vaj
On Jul 19, 2012, at 5:15 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: All you have to do is find some other way to refute what Vaj said. Do you guys really have nothing else to do in your lives? She can twist things all you want, but if she missed the spirit of the message to begin with, all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 3:55 AM, sparaig wrote: Any review that big is bound to have issues. I believe I already linked to some of them. IIRC the ONLY people who had any problem, was the TMO. In fact, they were so miffed at having their inadequacies exposed, they had TMO- affiliated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Obama Signs Executive Order Taking Control Over All Communication Under ...

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 17, 2012, at 3:38 PM, wle...@aol.com wrote:Obama Signs Executive Order Taking Control Over All Communication Under Any CircumstanceThank god! When can we expect the Oxy Moron to go off the air? Soon I hope. He's a traitor to the American people and should be executed for treason - on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Now this leaves open the question, then, of Maharishi's actual status independently of TM (and everything else that was added to this over time). Are there persons—not Indian saints in the Himalayas—the saints in Rishikesh paid tribute to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:08 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: But what did YOU think of him, Vaj? What was your own individualized perception and experience of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? You will never tell us this. He always reminded me of a Hindu rug salesman, kinda greasy and agenda-driven. I liked

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:13 AM, sparaig wrote: BTW, have you ever noticed that the way that asanas are taught in TM is a mild form of mindfulness practice and that the more formal course is even more mindfulness oriented? I honestly never thought of them that way, although I often enjoyed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:15 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: And for a perspective on Maharishi that I find unimpeachable I recommend Robert McCutcheon's Afterword and Witness Testimonial in Judy Bourque's *Robes of Silk Feet of Clay* (pp. 213-219). Quite definitive, I think. I've not read it,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Buck wrote: I knew very little of the stories told in the film. It was rather disconcerting. I believe if the parts of the interview with the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math that were edited out of the movie are eventually included on the DVD, that will be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to read what Share Long has posted, then my post in response to her post, a person would form a certain portrait of this man—in the abstract, then. But presumably with some faint

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Share Long wrote: If the Tao is really the Tao, how could it possibly ALWAYS be barred to the sentimental? Because the sentimental cling to preferences...otherwise they wouldn't be sentimental...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 11:41 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 18, 2012, at 11:30 AM, sparaig wrote: You misunderstand the essence of TM. THere is absolutely no *mandate* to return to the mantra. You only return to the mantra

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi to Vaj

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Share Long wrote: But that sounds like sentimentality is more powerful than Tao! Perhaps charm is in the eyes of the beholder?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:47 PM, turquoiseb wrote: How 'bout going all Thoreau on its ass and calling it what it really is -- daydreaming. Simplify, simplify, simplify. OK. How 'bout Obsessive Compulsive Daydreaming?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:55 PM, sparaig wrote: The point of TM isn't to transcend. THe point of TM is to transcend and then to NOT-transcend. Again, you show a fundamental lack of understanding. So then why are you emphasizing the NOT-transcend part? If you're lost in distraction, you're

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:56 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:47 PM, turquoiseb wrote: How 'bout going all Thoreau on its ass and calling it what it really is -- daydreaming. Simplify, simplify, simplify. OK

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Share Long wrote: At some point, lost in distraction does NOT equal not transcending. My experience. Mine too...and Patanjali as well!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Robin Carlsen wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote Jul 18, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Robin Carlsen wrote: Robin1: Here's the problem with your analysis, Vaj: If one were to read what Share Long has posted, then my post in response

Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad, the last season

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:26 PM, turquoiseb wrote: Speaking as a fan, and as someone who has watched the series get better and better, culminating in what will be taught in university classes of the future as The Perfect Season Of Television last year, I didn't know what to expect with the new

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 4:55 PM, wgm4u wrote: And he's been told this by several (I've lost count, it's somewhere between five and eight) TM teachers and former TM teachers, right here on FFL. Where's the checking notes when you need them, like Duh! Isn't it there in black and white? Oh

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 5:36 PM, cardemaister wrote: How 'bout Lawson's Transcendental Meditation? Outward Stroke Meditation? ;-) Perhaps I misunderstand what you're trying to say, but that sounds as stupid as claiming that if you're not all the time during the night in deep sleep,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Breaking Bad, the last season

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
On Jul 18, 2012, at 6:04 PM, Bhairitu wrote: I'm still waiting to see if Continuum gets a US distribution or goes to NF or Amazon streaming. I’ve not been able to find this anywhere - and I’ve cancelled Netflix, so that’s no longer an option. Directv just lost like 20 some odd channels,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
post. I now know what Kingsley felt when Newman humiliated him. There really is nothing to say in refutation of what you have laid before me here, Vaj. Imagine yourself in my predicament: how would you feel? You obviously never considered my feelings or my reputation when you decided to go

[FairfieldLife] Canadians richer because of socialism

2012-07-18 Thread Vaj
According to this, Canada's growing wealth isn't due to the tar sands, nor to industriousness, but to hard-headed socialism which allowed banks and housing market to stay stable and help weather the financial crisis. Now and then the Canadian media sounds warnings that the economy is about to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-16 Thread Vaj
On Jul 15, 2012, at 2:16 PM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: in this case it is just a visual he created himself. Actually it was created in an independent review created by the University of Alberta, so it's not biased like the links you provide, it just an unbiased review of the evidence.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-16 Thread Vaj
On Jul 16, 2012, at 8:04 AM, sri...@ymail.com wrote: my links all include references to research published in reputable scientific journals, yours led to webpage with spreadsheet that said created by Vaj, anyone interested in this should also see message 314502 It's not a spreadsheet

[FairfieldLife] Mind and Life XXIV

2012-07-15 Thread Vaj
Mind and Life XXIV: An Insider View By David Vago, Ph.D. I woke up the morning of April 24, 2012 thinking, “There will not be many days like this in my life. I will be giving a talk to His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, along with five of my Contemplative Science colleagues and friends.” My heart

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM's biggest problem?

2012-07-15 Thread Vaj
On Jul 15, 2012, at 8:38 AM, cardemaister wrote: An âyurvedic technician told me that surprisingly many TMers, like myself, have high blood pressure. The obvious reason is that many people here in Finland, and probably many other countries also, started doing TM in the hopes of being able

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andres Segovia - Greensleeves

2012-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2012, at 9:00 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY_g7H6DN68feature=related Actually I was pretty positive that it wasn't Segovia playing that and the consensus online is that it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pirate Amrit?

2012-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2012, at 8:29 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: From what I understand, in India, you can slap a label on anything as long as 10% of it is what the label says it is. I wouldn't trust black market stuff of any kind

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Andres Segovia - Greensleeves

2012-07-14 Thread Vaj
On Jul 14, 2012, at 4:14 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: I�ve seen Segovia live and trained under his method, there�s no way in hell this is the maestro. When I was stationed in England, Segovia was giving a concert

[FairfieldLife] Assange’s Last Stand?

2012-07-08 Thread Vaj
Assange’s Last Stand? They may get him, but he'll go down in history as a hero by Justin Raimondo, July 06, 2012 Print This | Share This If there was ever a clear cut case of good versus evil, then surely it is the contest between Julian Assange and most of the world’s governments. They hate

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Ayurvedic View of Marijuana

2012-07-07 Thread Vaj
Only in the land of duh Ved. On Jul 7, 2012, at 2:25 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: http://mapi.com/blog/the-ayurvedic-view-of-marijuana/ Just for fun, I Googled images for the marijuana view of ayurveda. This is what came

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Ayurvedic View of Marijuana

2012-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Emily Reyn wrote: That article on the Israeli strain is the right idea. I think that the medical marijuana industry should pursue the strain that doesn't get one high and prescribe it. Most people with chronic pain aren't interested in getting high - they are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2012-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I LOVE yogic flying Vajradhatu: You should read the Rig Vedic hymns of avatsAra... There probably are no 'avatars' mentioned in the Rig Veda - avatars such as Vishnu, Krishna, and Ramchandra avatsAra you dim wit - not an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2012-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2012, at 2:36 PM, cardemaister wrote: Well, avatsâra seems to be a RSi, or somesuch, mentioned in the 5th maNDala of Rgveda, I think 44, 10... No. RV IX.60.1-4 was what I was thinking of. “Oh sing a song,a song of praise To the clear and swiftly flowing Drop of crystal with a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2012-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2012, at 2:44 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote: Interesting post; there was an interesting story CLutes used to tell that Guru Dev was the 'Guru of Gurus', and that he had all of the spiritual techniques extant, and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2012-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2012, at 3:21 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Don't worry Vaj, Maitreya's plan for the upliftment of humanity also includes Buddhist's :-) You idiot - Maitreya IS the “Buddha-to-come”, presumably in the west (as he’s depicted seated, in western habit). Yogis of the kalachakra-tantra

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

2012-07-01 Thread Vaj
On Jul 1, 2012, at 3:59 PM, cardemaister wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: On Jul 1, 2012, at 2:36 PM, cardemaister wrote: Well, avatsâra seems to be a RSi, or somesuch, mentioned in the 5th maNDala of Rgveda, I think 44, 10... No. RV

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