Nice that we all can agree on so much here. World Peace is just a matter of
money, (to support the group program).
Evidently it should be better if we all would support the program more.
I feel Maharishi was a modern scientist just looking to fund research.
He did some pretty large science
Maharishi;
in Sanskrit it is more correctly said,
“Ma-ha-ri-shee”.
More properly this decidedly is Not pronounced, Mahahorsie
Ignorant Americans and many westerners not knowing any better use a hard “s”
which is too often flat or broad and wrong.
The Vedic is a softer “s”.
The Vedic
Jai Guru Dev, So there, you insolent defamers..
LEnglish5 wrote :
You may think that MMY was a charlatan, but Gurudev's hand-picked successor
did not.:
Professor Anoop Chandola: What about that 'maharishi' who is with the
Beatles? Is he legitimate?
Swami Shantananda Saraswati,
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So what.. “The British Association for Southeast Asian Studies”! Yeah but,
could you really trust colonists to really understand what was going on and
then tell what happened. Clearly Maharishi was SBS's closest and most trusted
aid. It all worked out for the best. Look what those two did for
A Stephen Gaskin Retrospective:
The Sun Magazine | The End Of A Sixties Dream?
http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/467/sixties
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The Sun Magazine | The End Of A Sixties Dream?
http://thesunmagazine.org/issues/467/sixties The Sun is an
Yep, also interesting were the observations about the generational change there
being on the backside of self-interest and communal welfare. Sounds a lot like
the Icarians as they fragmented communally. Or Amana Society too coming upon
their great re-organization.
[Icaria communalism in its
No, no, you two are being way too simplistic with this. There are two groups
here on FFL distinguished in their science by ontology; one group who are
transcendentalists by depth of experience and the others who are ignorant of
spiritual experience. It breaks out pretty clearly along that line.
Observation, hypothesis, test. The primary Spirit of Maharishi as scientist
using modern and cutting edge science over spirituality is very alive, able and
well at Maharishi University of Management, studying and testing spirituality.
It was extremely interesting and relevant to see the data
Rick, I just finished the Harry Aalto batgap.com interview. That was good
criticism based on experience too. He has an amazing base voice but his
perspective by experience was piercing. Janet Sussman who lived in Fairfield
for years held weekly living living room satsangs too with folks where
Om in science process; Observation, hypothesis, test. The primary Spirit of
Maharishi as scientist using modern and cutting edge science over spirituality
is very alive, able and well at Maharishi University of Management, studying
and testing spirituality. It was extremely interesting and
Dear Rick, What does Sam Harris feel about the Vedic reverberations of
Sanskrit? And the ontology of the Unified Field transcendent experience in the
physiology? Does he have any experience with this that could allow him to speak
with any authority around spiritual experience?
Rick, I just
The slide pictures from India and the pundits chanting there were good
verification too. It is a big research project in science and spirituality
going on there. Fred with his EEG equipment stayed there and went in setting up
test trials of various data pairs at one of the campus there with
Rick, I hope you will stay mostly with a pool of wakened people who by
experience are illumined for your interviews and not just some talking heads,
even if they are famous professional talking-heads. There certainly is lots of
ignorance to interview out there and other sources are certainly
Rick, Even so, is this going to be another Deepak Chopra interview of just
another highly educated Westerner? Harris seems both atheistic and agnostic a
lot of times anyway. What is his spiritual experience around this that would
allow him to be on Buddha at the Gas Pump anyway? Check him out
Rick, invite Sam Harris to come to Fairfield to join us in our home of all
Knowledge for the Batgap interview. That could be good for stirring the deeper
discussion of his spiritual experience and figure out if his is an abiding one.
-Buck
What is his spiritual experience around this that
Rick as you are proly experiencing in these interviews, becoming a guru in
culture can be different than abiding in spiritual experience.
In a range and distribution of spiritual folks some can become 'gurus' by
virtue of just scholarship alone without even much abiding experience. Others
by
Dear Rick; your thesis and take-away? What was your thesis last nite in your
own live interview down at the FF public library? With Way too many spiritual
things going on in FF at any given time, for those of us who were at other
satsanga or doing spiritual things elsewhere, what came to be
Conversations with Maharishi By Dr. Vernon Katz Hardcover, 393 pages Published
in 2011 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Speaks about Full Development of Human
Consciousness
The majestic panoramas of Lake Tahoe in California and the Kashmir Valley in
the Himalayas provided the ideal settings for the
That is true. Is a really good book in conversation where you get to hear their
sense of humor and Maharishi's depth around all this spiritual stuff. For
academic reasons I have been reading through the sequence of a lot of earlier
large format publications that Maharishi produced once the
Om, is Hillary a meditator? Yes Hillary is terribly interesting and being
talked about elsewhere. Just wondering what this has to do with FFL? Or is it
spam? Did you have a connection to make with FFL, the Fairfield meditating
community? How's about a question, would meditators vote for
No, you selectively copied that out of context.
The guideline is:
Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth
and liberation everywhere.
-Buck
A FFL Moderator writes:
To refresh your memory:
Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently,
Ranchydog could certainly attempt to give some spiritual or FFL context as to
dumping these posts here. She knows the rules. This is pure spam and a lazy
writer's cheap shot diluting the drink of the salon of spiritual and FFL
conversation of FFL here otherwise. Enforce the unifying code of
Is Bernie Sanders a meditator? Would the meditating community as a bloc vote
for a socialist?
What interest would meditators and other real spiritual people
have in Bernie Sanders?
-Buck
Raunchydog posts:
Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the “Hall
Yep, dang [subtle] Physiology! =Buck
Fleetwood_macncheese writes:
Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible,
unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an
emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any
Yep, that Karl Rove is as bad as some of the meditation Neganauts here. They
are a vile politic. Love, Love, Love; in the Unified Field, -Buck in the Dome
jr_esq writes:
Fleetwood,
Karl Rove is a shrewd negative spin artist. Now, he's got Bill Clinton to
speak up in defense of
Here is a Text Transcription of a glossy movement calendar [1993?] published by
MMY, a Heaven on Earth wall-calendar. The calendar is a fabulous document that
was poured over by MMY as a publishing project. Has a whole historical account
and also a listing of the qualities of the Unified
Yes, and Om may the Unified Field of our forum community guidelines and our
FairfieldLife community list owner and moderators protect us all from the
spamming spammer who spams us. -Buck in the Dome
Awoelflebater serving,
This is Spam:
This is a lot of Spam
.
“Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth
and liberation everywhere.” Yahoo forums guideline: “Stay on topic. Although
all groups are different, most groups appreciate it when you stay on topic. If
you constantly stray from the topic the group owner may
Yes, Pretty much any topic is fair game. But Not Spam. -Buck
authfriend writes:
You left something out, Buck.
“Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of
truth and liberation everywhere.” Yahoo forums guideline: “Stay on topic.
Although all
authfriend agrees:
No, not spam. Alex deletes spam whenever it's posted, ..
Yes, Pretty much any topic is fair game. But Not Spam.
-Buck
authfriend writes:
You left something out, Buck.
“Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of
truth and
“so you have nothing to worry about.”
Nope. You know, on most any forum always there is risk of spam; hence, FFL as
the controversial public and spiritual internet forum and community that FFL is
does maintain an active vigilance out for spamming spammers. -Buck
authfriend agrees: No, not
So, did closing access to the campus from along the south come before Sthapatya
Ved came along? Anybody remember the sequence? The years? Just wondering,
-Buck
A History Time-line of the Revolutionary Millenarian TM Movement 1955-'91
Here is a Text Transcription of a glossy movement
Back in the 1980's I recall coming out of a community English Country Dance one
summer eve from the basement of the old student union, coming down the concrete
stepped hillside behind the Union to the parking lot below along with a guy who
was then a pastor at the early Fairfield [meditator]
Yep, and this FFL is a moderated list particularly around the thoughtcrime of
the posting of spam. As a protection to the life of the group we have a policy
given to us by our over-seer, Rick himself, about spam being posted to this
communal list. -Buck
“so you have nothing to worry about.”
I agree with Tb unless the posting has something topically relevant to do with
our communal spirituality or Fairfieldlife and offered with some connecting
criticism or commentary relevant to: “Fairfield Life focuses on topics of
interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation
The closing off the street entrances from the south before, that was initiated
before SV? Then the sidewalks from the south closed too? Was initiating closing
the streets before SV and initially for campus security or all a part of SV
design? The fence constructed on the south side of campus
10) While friendly exchange between friends is natural, try to pass on personal
messages via personal e-mail, refraining where possible from sending personal
messages to the whole list. -Rick
Is there any possibility that you could simply refrain from reading the posts
you aren't interested
MJ writes: None of that had been done as of summer of 1987
Thanks, that is helpful.
-Buck
The closing off the street entrances from the south before, that was initiated
before SV? Then the sidewalks from the south closed too? Was initiating closing
the streets before SV and
I asked an older postal employee recently who remembers in experience these
things being 1993 when people in town were either selling their homes and
moving in to SV or rectifying their existing homes reconstructing in earnest
moving their house entries away from the south of their homes and
Whoa, TM/MIU/MUM are a sacred posting ground here. The TM/MIU/MUM postings to
FFL are well grandfathered on to FFL as a kind of fact based postulate and
original thought. They are a particularly protected and a substantial content
of FFL. As essential FFL spiritual grist for the mill, we
No, that is not completely true. Of course Beatlemania makes an interesting
observation but also makes for some wrong thinking around TM if not looked at
in context. For instance, actually a lot of us learned because of Kurt
Vonnegut. I started because earlier for Kurt Vonnegut TM had worked
The Beatles were later-comers-on by then. Maharishi had already been lecturing
at the upper tier Universities by then, Stanford, Harvard, Yale, Princeton,
Cambridge University, Oxford, public lectures in places like Albert Hall,
thence to Europe. Certainly everyone helped based on their
The truth is that Maharishi in coming to the West was facilitated around and
across the Pacific rim, North America and to Europe and back again based on his
lecturing and teaching a simple transcending meditation that people liked. TM
and Maharishi was well launched and heading into orbit well
Dear MJ, what ever did you do to repair your computer that it formats so badly
to FFL? It has been a chronic [ongoing] problem with you. Garbled and gaps in
text. Nobody else has posts come through to the list like yours do. You must
have your own unique program. They are often a complete
Dear Dear MJ, I feel that if you could just get your meditation checked, get a
standard computer from a regular mainstay trusted outlet instead of thrift
stores or a garage sale and updated your system from authorized places in place
of using bootleg sources, your posts would be clearer and
No, MJ it is odd and unique. It is something [bad and unconventional] with you.
-Buck
mjackson74 writes:
I'm just using yahoo mail - blame it on them.
On Sun, 5/18/14, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]
XYZED,
No, MJ it is odd and unique. It is something [bad and unconventional] with
you. -Buck
mjackson74 writes:
I'm just using yahoo mail - blame it on them.
On Sun, 5/18/14, dhamiltony2k5@... mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]
Om,
Rick as you are proly experiencing in these Batgap interviews, someone
becoming a 'guru' in culture can be different than someone abiding in spiritual
experience.
In a range and distribution of spiritual folks some can become 'gurus' by
virtue of just scholarship alone without even much
In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just
throwing these Batgap illumined people interviewed thus far on a scatter graph
by their experience and spiritual affect on others, it seems observable that
some of the awakened are more proactive in affect as teachers,
Yes, I noticed the attempt at categorization on Batgap. It is lame. -Buck
sharelong60 writes:
Buck, a friend is working on Rick's categories at his request and I'll forward
your comments to him.
In range and distribution of illumined Batgap interviewees by types, just
throwing these
Rick should get someone much more scholarly to discern and categorize the
interviewees spiritually if Rick is going to publish a categorical list like
that and not just some earnest friend. First Rick ought to pull the list from
the page for now, back up and think about it some more before
In the west the categorization of spirituality technically falls in to
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration'. The Batgap interviews in a more
scholarly way often fall nicely in to this typology when looked at this way.
-Buck
Rick should get someone much more scholarly [with credentials] to
Om,
In the west the categorization of spirituality technically falls in to
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration'. The Batgap interviews in a more
scholarly way often fall nicely in to this typology when looked at this way.
-Buck Those would be safer demarcations to categorize by that could
More in line with a western scholarly discernment of spirituality and spiritual
[illumined/awakened] teachers, those: -Meditation teachers, -Subtle system
teachers, -Ritam Bhara Pragya people; as somewhat analogous to western,
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration' in typology. -Buck
In the
Ahem,
Re-title-ing, the subject line your contributions here.
You guys jumped the thread of a perfectly good subject line again to something
other.
As a communal courtesy to others
would you people please change the subject line when you hijack a thread.
Change the subject line
Just rectifying the Subject Line to the new thread. In community service, -Buck
Carry on:
noozguru@... wrote :
I was looking at one of the Yahoo Groups I get via email the other day and all
the posts were listed as from the email of that group. It was still normal on
the web site. It
Ahem,
Re-title-ing, the subject line of your contributions here.
You guys jumped the thread of a perfectly good subject line again to something
other.
As a communal courtesy to others
would you people please change the subject line when you hijack a thread.
Change the subject line
Someone like Francis Bennett more recently coming out now awakened on
batgap.com is teaching now in a blush as a Quietist. Quietism is an earlier
word to transcendentalism. Francis now it seems is one in old quietism like
TM'ers are more narrowly modern day transcendentalist quietism. Maharishi
One don't see so many Ritam Bhara Pragya or 'inspired' people as modality as
often; however, Connie Huebner is a fabulous example of a classic school of
inspiration teachers operating in Ritam Bhara Pragya, very much like the
mystics of the old Amana Colony tradition going way back into a
Yes it is seriously bad form.
-Buck
noozguru writes:
It's called thread hijacking or topic hijacking and considered bad
netiquette and usually product of a net noob. Turq even defended it once but
he doesn't seem to do it anymore. Apparently Yahoo is sending emails as
restricted
Om The Desecration of Subject Headings: It is a large discourtesy when some
folks hijack a substantial thread into other directions without taking the time
to 're-subject' the heading that we all come to find on the web page or in our
mailboxes. This should be a serious FFL guideline and people
One can find illumined people in satsanga teaching quietism and piety blended
as meditational in guided chakra or subtle energy knowledge. Someone like
Ammachi is teaching and bringing pietism in the help she gives through the
field effect of darshan and her spiritual practices as modalities
Thread-jacking or Subject-jacking
yep, it is an incredibly rude obliviousness to others that people should
hijack threads and continue to drive on without adjusting the subject line.
Another symptom of bad upbringing and the decay of ethical virtue in the world.
-Buck
noozguru writes:
The doors open at the Domes here in Fairfield, Iowa for meditation at 7am and
4pm. The Domes in Fairfield are fabulous places to meditate. -Buck
Analysis: Jonathan Marcus, BBC Diplomatic correspondent
Some people may be wondering if there is a command and control problem in the
Russian
Om tat sat!
Our rally point in lending aid to this is the Unified Field transcendent in
meditation!
The doors open at the Domes here in Fairfield, Iowa for meditation at 7am and
4pm. The Domes in Fairfield are fabulous places to meditate.
-Buck in the Dome
Analysis: Jonathan
In my aged experience as an experienced and practicing old meditator I am in
full sympathy with, in complete support of, and honor totally the deployment of
these meditators to that region. Seems a critical tipping point in world peace
right now today in so many places. Evidently it is quite an
When can their glory fade? Om the wild charge they make in meditation together
for Peace! In meditation together for peace! All the world wonders. Honour the
charge they make! Honour this Light Brigade, the Noble One Hundred Meditators!
In Paraphrase,
-Buck in the Dome
In my aged experience
Cannon to right of them, Tanks to left of them, Cannon in front of them. Boldly
they came in peace and well, Into the jaws of Death, Into the mouth of Hell
came the hundred meditating.
When can their glory fade? Om the wild charge they make in meditation together
for Peace! In meditation
'Forward, the Light Brigade of Meditators!' Was there a meditator dismay'd ?
Knowing of themselves their own experience transcendent and the science so,
theirs not to make reply, theirs not to reason why, theirs but to meditate.
Into the valley of Death Crimea came the hundred meditators.
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Would it not be better for all of society to incorporate quiet time meditation
in to the educational design of our schooling system? -Buck
http://www.npr.org/2014/05/19/312158516/increasing-court-fees-punish-the-poor
Wow, that is mighty unsettling. What kind of nut would come on here to this
community and post that particular thing without context and then leave?
The conservative in me would like to have law-enforcement notified about this
person. Apparently the Fairfield police read social media pages
Thanks I do appreciate all that and for anyone who does not know history that
way it should be said. But also being way too literal in nature here obsessing
the details can get in the way of another good story otherwise. One hundred
meditators. Knowing the Transformative Power of the Unified
Thanks Alex, that gets closer. What was this guy thinking?
-Buck
Alex writes:
IP address is:
69.212.127.19
Canonical name: adsl-69-212-127-19.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net
The sfldmi refers to Southfield, Michigan, which is Detroit area.
Wow, that post [FFL #384175] is mighty
Yep and even before Descartes in the West, “Know thy Self” is the old direction
and spiritual saying from way back looking to the Unified Field. That truth is
again brought forward in a transcendentalism of “a life well lived”, versus
this un-quieted desperation of the materialism of these
The mystic separatists who were the antecedence of Amana in America were
inspirationist by spirituality type in practice and as a formed communal
spiritual group employing also daily quietism in substantial silent
transcendental meditative practice.
One can find illumined people in satsanga
Another example of the relative blending of spiritual typology is George Fox,
spiritual teacher promulgating quietism who early on was also a pietist in the
pietistic sense of doing or working at energetic subtle system healing but then
stopped doing that work publicly because it distracted
Om Dear FFL Moderators, By FFL Guideline:
10) While friendly exchange between friends is natural, try to pass on
personal messages via personal e-mail, refraining where possible from sending
personal messages to the whole list.
Moderators, please keep a close watch on this very personal
This time of year we bask in the celebratory joy of acknowledging the
accomplishments of the university and its students — graduation. We extend our
warmest congratulations to the graduating students and their families.
Friday Saturday for graduation:
We offer those privileges and
^This time of year we bask in the celebratory joy of acknowledging the
accomplishments of the university and its students — graduation. We extend our
warmest congratulations to the graduating students and their families.
Friday Saturday for graduation:
We offer those privileges and
The public is invited to attend the 2014 graduation ceremony Saturday, May 24,
in the Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome at Maharishi University of Management.
The event will include a commencement address by actor Jim Carrey.
Seating, however, will be limited, with overflow being accommodated
The University will be graduating its largest class, with 285 students
receiving degrees, including 62 undergraduates and 223 graduate students. Over
half of the graduate students, 126, will receive an MS in Computer Science.
In addition, in recognition of his significant lifetime achievement,
Yep, I feel the same way as 7Ray and Feste. Get off it MJ with your TM hate
here. People die all the time and commit suicide too. Om come on now, there is
nothing extraordinary in the suicide rates here. Divide it out how you like, it
is small in the population just like most . Yes it is
Turquoiseb, Good observations and good thoughtful post that adds to the
discussion, thanks. -Buck
For some gung-ho locally of their own making there can potentially be a lot of
pressure around some expectations of 'enlightenment'. As a set up, sort of like
the young girl who in her
Yes, I was there too. Was a tremendous amount of wisdom in Carrey's talk to the
students. He is clearly awakened and spoke from Unity consciousness. Was quite
an extraordinary commencement speech. Rick Archer should interview him for
Batgap about Carrey's awakening experience. I am not familiar
More in line with a western scholarly discernment of spirituality and spiritual
[the illumined/awakened] teachers, could be a spectrum of : -Meditation
teachers, -Subtle system teachers, -Ritam Bhara Pragya people; as analogous to,
'Quietism', 'Piety' and 'Inspiration' in typology.
See the
Yes, and Braco would be a Pietist according to spiritual category helping
people's subtle systems that house the soul of consciousness, like Jesus. You
people by category are such blasphemers. No wonder some of you say you never
noticed anything spiritual around Maharishi's darshan! An old
Unless we forget... 163448MAHARISHI WELCOMED INTO HEAVEN
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With his life’s work complete,
His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
“is welcomed with open arms into Heaven”
Maharishi offers farewell message: “Live long
Om the FFL 'message history', On the FFL main web page the 'message history'
archive matrix that is organized by month and year is working again better now
in this new yahoo-neo world. It reports in slim mode and you can scroll down
through a month. Would be nice too if you could navigate back
Yes, she was completely out of order, evidently did not understand the process
of open public civil meetings and became obnoxious. It had to be done to
protect the public process. It was taken care of openly and the public meeting
proceeded in good order whence the public was subsequently able
I feel it is generally true too in context, with the saintly likewise; beware
the company you keep, there is a field effect value to consider, spiritually.
Yep, is worthwhile to be mindful of that in practice, -Buck in the Dome
Fleetwood writes:
I was thinking about those here, that I
Bevan? He is different than the other guys around him at that echelon, he seems
sort of like an Australian version of Don Corleone. Bevan is a character
extremely interesting in the TM story. Maharishi did not designate him 'Guru',
everyone else at that level are administrators or 'Raja' though
Is this school similar to MSAE in that it also teaches meditation to the
students
in a consciousness based education? Just wondering,
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Good practical spiritual discussion in this whole thread. It [ mindful Being]
in gradient could also be called, 'spiritual discernment' that can be turned on
or cultivated sort of like a faculty. Being mindful, as in Being in it. A sort
of a vector of Apprehending or Discernment as something
At this point Bevan, it would seem, is keeping himself circumstantially at the
lecturer-teacher level in his primary role to preserve and perpetuate
Maharishi's teaching and movement as Bevan sees it and also is attending to
help wrangle and secure Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaaraam Dr. Tony Nader in
Great find, thanks. It is fun they found the Shakers that way. Seems it is a
good quick theatrical retelling of the life-cycle of life found and lost in a
spiritual group. The Shaker movement is a great example of mysticism and
spirituality found and revived in a moment and lost. I've had some
There is a lot of scholarship going on around Mother Ann and the Shakers now.
In watching I feel a great contemporary look in to the life-cycle of what was
Shakerism is to look in on the Ammachi movement now. Very similar modalities
and explosive growth of an organization. Someone just posted a
Last year I was at a conference and heard a paper delivered on the introduction
and use of printing presses within Shaker communities to publish the Shaker
songs as a means of unifying a spreading and diversifying movement.. Very much
like Maharishi buying the Heidelberg color presses at a time
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