[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY advised by dickheads? (Was:Press Release (For Maharishi),Lovingly yours...'
Yes, it could, Maharishi. Devastate comes from the Latin, Vastare, to destroy. And another thing, MMY, however good TM is, you will not succeed if you surround yourself with idiots. Uns. Why should MMY surround himself with Brahmarishi Mahasiddhas? I'd like these top notch people working in the trenches. If someone like MMY surrounds himself with idiots, then in time, they will no longer be idiots. The fact that you can see this clearly speaks positively about you. You probably can do alot of positive things for the rest of us. I don't give a rats a*s about the organization. As long as the TM techniques are secure and properly passed on so others can be trained, i think this is enough. From another perspective, the TM Organization might be a training ground so something else entirely. Cheer up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Whining Paradox
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Christian Paradox How a faithful nation gets Jesus wrong By Bill McKibben Harpers Magazine, August 2005 http://www.harpers.org/ExcerptTheChristianParadox.html Looking forward to seeing these books too. - How a faithfull nation gets Krishna wrong By Shanti patel - How an observant nation gets Moses wrong by Shlomo Minkman - How people on a Haj gets the Prophet wrong By Ahmed Shah - How no-one gets the Buddha wrong By MahaShunya - How everyone gets the Maharishi wrong By TM Faithfull Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush Attempt to Subvert Organic Standards - Send Letter Now
Large corporations aided and abetted by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) are moving to lower organic standards by allowing a Bush appointee to create a list of synthetic ingredients that would be allowed in organic production. Even worse these proposed regulatory changes will reduce future public discussion and input and take away the National Organic Standards Board's (NOSB) traditional lead jurisdiction in setting standards. What this means, in blunt terms. is that USDA bureaucrats and industry lobbyists, not consumers, will now have more control over what can go into organic foods and products. A vote on this may come as early as tomorrow,... Consumers already have full control. Consumers have the ability to purchase only from the growers/suppliers that meet the standards that best suit the enviroment and population. The fact remains, people in general will not pay a premium. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Abuse by Clerics
The most prominent example in the US(can't speak for Britain) is the scandals in the Catholic church where numerous priests used their position and power to molest members of the lay community. To molest CHILDREN. Priests having affairs may be a no-no, but the Church doesn't get bankrupted due to lawsuits over it. Clerics abusing anyone sexually or otherwise is unacceptable. The Catholic Church has received the most press regarding this unfortunate situaton but the web has numberous sites listing offences by Hindu, Buddhist etc.. clerics. There are/were several books (maybe out of print) by women that were sexually abused by Zen and Tibetan Teachers. Rick Fields wrote a book about the history of Buddhism in the US containing many stories of sexual abuse. The Hindu Tradition has its share of problems. Can't mention the other Religious Traditions without getting branded. Basically, people are no fu***ng good regardless of the type of self-induced so-called religious/transcendental experiences they proclaim. What else is new? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush hits the booze again
Rich folks play a lot of these games -- Karl Rove does: Thats the only point about being wealthy. The Rich don't merely play games, they construct their own including the rules. Show me someone that says they cannot be bought and i'll show you someone that hasn't had their price met. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inequality kills
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life expectancy in rich nations correlates precisely with levels of equality. So Greece, with half the GDP per head, has longer life expectancy than the US, the richest and most unequal country with the lowest life expectancy in the developed world. The people of Harlem live shorter lives than the people of Bangladesh. When you take out the violence and drugs, two-thirds of the reason is heart disease. Is that bad diet? No, says Wilkinson, it is mainly stress, the stress of living at the bottom of the pecking order, on the lowest rung, the stress of disrespect and lack of esteem. Bad nutrition does less harm than depression. and.. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Inequality kills
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Life expectancy in rich nations correlates precisely with levels of equality. So Greece, with half the GDP per head, has longer life expectancy than the US, the richest and most unequal country I take great exception to most unequal. If you're talking rights and freedoms, you're totally wrong. If you're talking economics, you're 180 degrees wrong. There is no country on Earth -- including those wonderful socialistic Scandinavian countries -- that have better economic equality than the United States. There is virtually ZERO gap between rich and so-called poor in the U.S. And I'm NOT talking poverty line or income...I'm talking access to the basic necessities of life. On THAT standard, there is virtually a ZERO gap between Bill Gates and that perennial 8-year-old kid sitting on a heap of garbage in Harlem. I usually don't bother to deal with this level of ignorance, but in this case I will. Let's do a little experiment, Shemp. First, quit your job, so that you are unemployed and on an equal footing with other unemployed people. You can't start working again in your field for the duration of the experiment. Next, give me the keys to your car; you'll get it back in six months. Next, give me all your savings, except for one month's rent (no more) on an apartment that someone working at minimum wage could afford; you'll get the rest of your savings back, too. Finally, move out of your house and into this apartment and start over, on a *truly* equal footing with those people you look down on. Then spend six months living like millions of people really live, and tell me at the end of it all how equal you felt to those who had cushy jobs and a car and a house. You won't do it, of course. People who live in dream worlds never want to wake up. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amma Will Provide One Million U.S. Dollars
What's amusing is the idea that the citation of a particular person's thoughts is always a manifestation of the authority thing, as if it could only be an attempt to trump other thoughts. The real amusement is that you are saying this. I recall you to be one of the core quoting parrots of A.M.T. What a hoot... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Global Country of World Peace flag - comments?
What do others here think of the flag design? Located at http://tmbulletin.net/images/GCWP-flag.jpg Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Un-intelligent Un-design ( the U, U theory )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit. It is the method of the witless. The more a self is struggling to survive, terrified of realizing its true nature as Self and desperate to try anything to prevent that from happening, one of the best techniques available is to look down on everyone as lower or less intelligent than you are. *Especially* those who seem to actually have achieved (even if temporarily) the thing you've been claiming to want for 30 years but doing everything in your power to avoid. You'll get used to it... You seem to understand the mechanics well. Personal experience? $0.02 Once you really get tired of all the programs, one upmanship and other utter nonsence you will simply let go and finally relax, it might feel like one gigantic bowel movement. There's no point in bragging about letting go of all the crap accumulated over a life time(s). Its just crap. Spiritual constipation is the ultimate blockage. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
This begs the question then - are these real symptons of a Ego are just apparent symptoms ? I say - a cow is a cow regardless. What's your opinion? A person self-stimulates themselves while viewing/reading a pornographic magazine. The resulting physiological reaction is actual. The feelings arising are quite real to the person. The person proclaims I am the greater lover of all. Real to them. Maybe others that read porno books and do self-stimulation can relate. Illusion? Reading so-called Holy Books and effortlessly thinking some special word can create interesting feelings and physiological reactions. Enlightenment or illusion? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
The crux of your inquiry seems to be not so much how do we know we are enlightened, but how do we share that or convince others that we are? What about - is there such a state labelled Enlightenment and is it worthwhile attaining it? Forget about the entertainment of lights, energy and sleep witnessing. First, anyone with a thirst to let others know how enlightened they are is mired in deep ignorance, and is either expoliting their followers, or has self-esteem issues. Same with money, sex, fame...etc. How do we convince others that we are enlightened? It has always worked for me on a frequency level, like a radio. Whenever I am in the presence of someone enlightened, my body resonates at that frequency of Wholeness. it is simple, obvious and unmistakable. The same can be said to happen when in proximity to charimatic, wealthy and attractice people too. Just some more subjective stuff arising from feelings etc.. As far as my own criteria for my own enlightenment, it has always been a simple one; how much am I enjoying myself, or suffering? Gets rid of the BS right away. ...And I've never had much success convincing myself that if only external element A -Z were changed, I'd be happier. Now, THATS a viewpoint that has merit. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Dangers of Pseudo-advaita
Some members of our Satsang in Fairfield were laughing about THAT just the other day! Brahman Brew -- for its full-bodied flavor. Brahman Beer What can you say about it? Not this, not this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting guy
All this is good and fine. But what is the difference with long term psycho-analysis or other traditional -- somewhat looked down upon methods. Or simple building a strong character. ruthless selfÂ-examination and the deepening of a willingness to bear whatever it takes to stay true could be the description of many protagonists in much literature, drama and film. ruthless self-examination could be considered a means to see clearly. This is sometimes called the path of attention and a very steep climb. Its value may be the direct engagement of those obstacles, addictions, affectations etc that clog the processes of cognition. Maybe, a person that completely lets go on the path of effortlessness and transcends all mental machinations truly attends to what is. Maybe is the key word. Attention with strain is just another binding mental influence. Expending effort to be effortless is simply absurd. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gross National Happiness
Again, my point is that this seems to be catching fire as a potentially fruitful policy approach on a widespread basis. Good for 60 Minutes for being ahead of the curve and helping get the meme started. But I would have expected it to die a quick death. Instead, it looks like it just might be an idea whose time has come. This nonsence should be killed immediately. The last thing we need is for Government to get involved in happiness. If people cannot figure out how to be happy for themselves, let them die in misery. This is humane compared with the bizarre policies that the do-good left wingers would implement. I'm sure there are various groups salivating at the idea of being a part of this potential disaster. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gross National Happiness
Good idea!...Or you could just access the U.S. Department of National Happiness website, and send in a request to have them reboot the chip in eptfnj's head. Or, people can take total responsibility for themselves. Not good news for the big government left. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
I think do nothing merely refers to the fact that the enlightened experience in a very real sense that they (the Self) are doing nothing. The body and all the other faculties may be working hard, as Maharishi always did, but there is the constant sense that I am not doing anything, in fact, I am not even here. This is more elightenment gibberish. The experience of a still center within might be interesting and different compared to other experiences but so what? Unless such an experience makes a measurable positive difference then its just more stuff. I am not here is an equally absurd declaration. Calling all descriptions and fictions about oneself and/or ones life not here should be obvious even to the average Joe. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
No because you just want to start an argument. And life's too short for that. Tweedledee and Tweedledum agreed to have a fight. Touch football. Roughhousing. Nurf-stick battles. Come on, didn't you see Rama and Ravana wink at each other? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus
The question is, which one would Ramana Maharshi have gone to during the period when his sadhana involved dressing in drag? it is written that Poonja (Papaji) dressed as a Gopi early in this Sadhana. Some Sadhana. i recall that Ramana realized the Self in an instant while in his late teens. U.G Krishnamurti has made himself a career as the non-Guru Guru. During the beginning of the Alan Watts 20th Year memorial in 1993, a recording of his voice resounded over the PA system: Its all Bullsh*t. All those Guru's must be laughing their butts off thinking about all this fuss about nothing. Heiny Hop your way to Awakening. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Satsang Reports: Byron Katie Session
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as my Aunt used to tell me when I was bored: Boredom is the sign of an undeveloped mind. i enjoyed the take on boredom by Trugpa Rinpoche. the Zen tradition also has some interesting views. boredom can be considered as the reaction of the (so-called) mind to unfulfilled expectations. wearing away of boredom by long periods of sitting is certainly not effortless TM. IMO,i notice that people who have completed a few sesshin have a calmness and degree of patience missing in long-term TMers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
I was referring to his comments about being enlightened as to the goal of enlightenment, the first time we transcend during TM and contact the Absolute. So it is a statement of relative enlightenment he was making. The point I was making was that this statement of his led some of us to think that we were in fact enlightened; end of pathless path. This was in the context of a discussion about knowledge being structured in consciousness. The 'gradual school' perspective was always there as well, proving I guess that the ego hears what it wants to. if a person cannot tell when they have ceased being totally at the mercy of their past actions, memories, tendencies or whatever then screw them. there are a good number of people that experience lights, sounds and all other Yogic stuff and are basically quite fu*ked up. the term liberation' might be better a description of the outcome of completely letting go rather than enlightenment. i thought the object is to become free and not get caught up in endless courses, programs, techniques and other nonsence. Someone mentioned Taoist texts awhile ago. Wasn't it Chuang Tzu that pointed out the absurdity of the various later developments in Taoist breathing, meditational and alchemy pursuits? This is what TM has become. A lot of horsecrap. What happened to capture the fort? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
That was Zen; this is Tao. The movement decided that it was more in tune with Natural Law to buy the fort than to capture it. now, the Fort is only spoken about, loyal followers imply it has been captured, detractors say it will only be purchased, a few people see only an empty useless lot with real estate people from Florida selling it as The Ideal Community to Live in at prices no-one can afford. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
Re your writing above, how could 'loyal followers imply [the fort] has been captured'? If they have really captured the fort, in that context, they may be loyal but they could no longer, by definition, be followers. very good! but those Lions even after looking into the calm clear pool, still bray like the jackasses they associate with. their identity is still unclear. a profilic western interpreter of Zen once commented that Bankei Zenji, an eccentric and insightfull meditator was considered a successfull teacher precisely because he left no successors or followers. people DO get addicted to the medicine prescribed to cure their dis-ease. people DO fall in love with the doctor that intended only to cure their dis-ease. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How much sleep do enlightened beings need? (story)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One night, I wanted to see for myself how Old Khyentse slept. My favorite story about Dilgo Kyentse Rinpoche. It was written years ago in the Shambala Sun. Thomas Rich had already been appointed as Vajra Regent and Kyentse Rinpoche was invited by Trungpa to the US. Kyentse asked the Regent to stop by later that evening because He wanted to say something important. It was written that the Regent stopped by the Rinpoches room after most people had retired. As i recall, this is how the Regent relayed the incident. He motioned me to come close. Leaning over He whispered into my ear Remember always to be kind, people are depending on you. This was all He said that evening. This is an example of the Ear-Whispered pith instructions that seem to have been lost Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely. Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison? You raise being clueless to an Art Form. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with them. We ripped it apart. You get the impression that the phrase Jesus died for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for his death. No there is nothing much spiritual about this film. There is far less spirituality in boucing on your ass to raise consciousness or thinking that the orientation of your house, roof ornaments and other such stuff. Plain simple - Fuck You! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
