[FairfieldLife] The new Ex-Amma site
It may take 24 hours to find this new site on Yahoo. The new forum is called Ex-Amma.
[FairfieldLife] Gayatri
Greetings, Gayatri (Gail) has come to the surface to share her personal experiences with Ammachi and the Ashram in India. She has put together her memoirs and will be publishing a book soon. If you want to read some of her experiences go to examma yahoo group.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amrita University, Ettimadai, Coimbatore False promises - Parents harmed
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/amrita-university-ettimadai-coimbatore-c272382.html Please see the link for this article up above. There are many people who are looking at both sides of this problem,and hardship. It seems that there are many issues coming up about the professors in engineering at Coimbatore. I am not sure whether there is the same lack of care and safety for the students in Amrita University, Kerela and each of the Universities under the name Amrita and campuses. Please take the time to read all that is below the complaints board for this article. There are several areas that are being discussed around this and many other issues, as it feels like one has entered a cult. When studied piece by piece this life style with those who join the Hugging Saint and all of the activities with Ammachi and tour staffit is This: we look from the outside, rather than being on the inside of her staff. Many of us once on t he inside, many encouraged to leave as we have not chosen top follow blindly.Please come by and join in at exa...@yahoogroups.com Thank you --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gita gitasun@... wrote: Parents harmed by: Amrita University, Ettimadai, Coimbatore False promises Complaint Rating: 85 % with 20 votes Company information: Amrita University United Arab Emirates This is the time of the year when senior officials (I would call them sharks) of so-called leading universities, in India visit the Gulf to lure students to their institutions, and I am writing this as a warning to parents before they shell out huge amounts of money for admission. I will narrate my story here. Four years ago, the director, international relations, of a Amrita University, Ettimadi, Coimbatore, India, which has campuses in Kerala and Karnataka, visited Muscat scouting for students. I met him at an Indian school in Dubai and paid the Rs 700, 000 he demanded for my son's admission in the university's engineering (IT branch) college. Initially, I was reluctant to pay such a big sum, but he said: You have to decide fast, because there are hundreds in the queue. He also boasted that not a single student who graduated from our university remains unemployed and listed the names all the top IT companies who visited his university for on-campus recruitment every year. Ultimately, because I had no other option at the time, I paid. I am repenting now. For so many reasons. First, this a great university, has discontinued its IT course! So much for campus selection. Second, I found out that the teaching standards are sub-standard, to say the least. Most of the teachers are fresh engineering graduates without any experience and don't even speak correct English (forget about good English). Half the time they conduct classes in Tamil. Any student who dares to request a clarification is insulted in front of the entire class. Once during a visit there, I mentioned this to this gentleman, the Director, International Relations. His answer was: Well, you bring good teachers, we are prepared to pay them Rs 100, 000 a month¦ We are trying, but we don't get properly qualified teachers! Third, the atmosphere on the campus is oppressive. The teaching staff and administration officials misbehave with students for the slightest of reasons. They insult and abuse students openly, totally demoralizing them. In fact,students are scared of the staff and don't speak out openly. Fourth, the conditions in the hostels are deplorable, particularly in relation to food served to inmates. Most students are forced to eat at the canteens within the campus, paying exorbitant prices. The parents, thus, end up paying the mess fees plus the canteen expenses! After my visit to the university, I discovered that this is a very cleverly planned trick, in the sense that the university makes huge profits from leasing out the canteens. I counted at least four sprawling canteens, all crowded all the time, and two more were under construction. Thus the reason for the poor quality food in the hostel mess becomes obvious. I write this letter to caution parents to be vigilant. Please do not pay any money unless and until you make your own investigations about the university/college where you are planning to admit your children. Don't be duped by the big-name institutions. exa...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Testimony: Parent - Amrita University, Ettimadai, Coimbatore False Promises
Amrita University, Ettimadai, Coimbatore Posted: 2009-10-29 byrkn False promises Complaint Rating: 85 % with 20 votes Company information: Amrita University United Arab Emirates This is the time of the year when senior officials (I would call them sharks) of so-called âleading universities in India visit the Gulf to lure students to their institutions, and I am writing this as a warning to parents before they shell out huge amounts of money for admission. I will narrate my story here. Four years ago, the director, international relations, of a Amrita University, Ettimadi, Coimbatore, India, which has campuses in Kerala and Karnataka, visited Muscat scouting for students. I met him at an Indian school in Dubai and paid the Rs 700, 000 he demanded for my sons admission in the universitys engineering (IT branch) college. Initially, I was reluctant to pay such a big sum, but he said: âYou have to decide fast, because there are hundreds in the queue. He also boasted that ânot a single student who graduated from our university remains unemployed and listed the names all the top IT companies who visited his university for on-campus recruitment every year. Ultimately, because I had no other option at the time, I paid. I am repenting now. For so many reasons. First, this a great university has discontinued its IT course! So much for campus selection. Second, I found out that the teaching standards are sub-standard, to say the least. Most of the teachers are fresh engineering graduates without any experience and don't even speak correct English (forget about good English). Half the time they conduct classes in Tamil. Any student who dares to request a clarification is insulted in front of the entire class. Once during a visit there, I mentioned this to this gentleman, the Director, International Relations. His answer was: âWell, you bring good teachers, we are prepared to pay them Rs100, 000 a month¦ We are trying, but we don't get properly qualified teachers! Third, the atmosphere on the campus is oppressive. The teaching staff and administration officials misbehave with students for the slightest of reasons. They insult and abuse students openly, totally demoralizing them. In fact, students are scared of the staff and don't speak out openly. Fourth, the conditions in the hostels are deplorable, particularly in relation to food served to inmates. Most students are forced to eat at the canteens within the campus, paying exorbitant prices. The parents, thus, end up paying the mess fees plus the canteen expenses! After my visit to the university, I discovered that this is a very cleverly planned trick, in the sense that the university makes huge profits from leasing out the canteens. I counted at least four sprawling canteens, all crowded all the time, and two more were under construction. Thus the reason for the poor quality food in the hostel mess becomes obvious. I write this letter to caution parents to be vigilant. Please do not pay any money unless and until you make your own investigations about the university/college where you are planning to admit your children. Don't be duped by the big-name institutions. For support around such things around Ammachi, please see exa...@yahoogroupd.com
[FairfieldLife] Amrita University, Ettimadai, Coimbatore False promises - Parents harmed
Parents harmed by: Amrita University, Ettimadai, Coimbatore False promises Complaint Rating: 85 % with 20 votes Company information: Amrita University United Arab Emirates This is the time of the year when senior officials (I would call them sharks) of so-called leading universities, in India visit the Gulf to lure students to their institutions, and I am writing this as a warning to parents before they shell out huge amounts of money for admission. I will narrate my story here. Four years ago, the director, international relations, of a Amrita University, Ettimadi, Coimbatore, India, which has campuses in Kerala and Karnataka, visited Muscat scouting for students. I met him at an Indian school in Dubai and paid the Rs 700, 000 he demanded for my son's admission in the university's engineering (IT branch) college. Initially, I was reluctant to pay such a big sum, but he said: You have to decide fast, because there are hundreds in the queue. He also boasted that not a single student who graduated from our university remains unemployed and listed the names all the top IT companies who visited his university for on-campus recruitment every year. Ultimately, because I had no other option at the time, I paid. I am repenting now. For so many reasons. First, this a great university, has discontinued its IT course! So much for campus selection. Second, I found out that the teaching standards are sub-standard, to say the least. Most of the teachers are fresh engineering graduates without any experience and don't even speak correct English (forget about good English). Half the time they conduct classes in Tamil. Any student who dares to request a clarification is insulted in front of the entire class. Once during a visit there, I mentioned this to this gentleman, the Director, International Relations. His answer was: Well, you bring good teachers, we are prepared to pay them Rs 100, 000 a month¦ We are trying, but we don't get properly qualified teachers! Third, the atmosphere on the campus is oppressive. The teaching staff and administration officials misbehave with students for the slightest of reasons. They insult and abuse students openly, totally demoralizing them. In fact,students are scared of the staff and don't speak out openly. Fourth, the conditions in the hostels are deplorable, particularly in relation to food served to inmates. Most students are forced to eat at the canteens within the campus, paying exorbitant prices. The parents, thus, end up paying the mess fees plus the canteen expenses! After my visit to the university, I discovered that this is a very cleverly planned trick, in the sense that the university makes huge profits from leasing out the canteens. I counted at least four sprawling canteens, all crowded all the time, and two more were under construction. Thus the reason for the poor quality food in the hostel mess becomes obvious. I write this letter to caution parents to be vigilant. Please do not pay any money unless and until you make your own investigations about the university/college where you are planning to admit your children. Don't be duped by the big-name institutions. exa...@yahoogroups.com
[FairfieldLife] Haiti relief effort through the Marians PLEASE FORWARD
Here is a place to send relief donations to Haiti - Forwarded Message From: Fr. Joseph MIC frjos...@marianweb.net To: stacee.kra...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 3:54:14 AM Subject: Haiti relief effort through the Marians PLEASE FORWARD Dear Marian Helper, The Holy Father and leaders from around the world are urging people to come to the aid of the people of Haiti, the Caribbean nation devastated by an earthquake on Tuesday, Jan. 12. The Marians are asking you to pray particularly to pray the Chaplet of The Divine Mercy for those trapped, injured, homeless, and dying and to please give whatever financial assistance you can to relief efforts. The full 100% of Haiti relief donations made through the Marians will be sent to Catholic Relief Services, which has mobilized an immediate aid response to Haiti in the form of food and supplies. Thank you for your prayerful consideration of how you can help. Yours in the Merciful Savior, Father Joseph, MIC Donate now. Read our related article.
[FairfieldLife] Letter to Swami Ramakrishna and the Bramachari, director of connectone.in
Dear all, This letter was sent to Swami Ramakrishna, at Amritapuri one of Ammachi's head Swami's. Many questions and sharing about what has been recently published in several resources on the internet. S Dear Swami Ramakrishna, (RE: New Business vs. Entrepreneur) Many are truly troubled in the West and in India by what they are seeing at Amritapuri. It is hard to see what others see when you live a confined life. We desperately need to be attending to the hungry and the poor. If you have any ability at all to share our concerns with Ammachi please do so. I wish I could give more and I give as much as I can. I would be considered impoverished by what I have and how I live in the US. But I do sponsor a poor child from the Dominican Republic through Children International. Even if Amma chose to help 1000-2000 of these children it would make a huge difference in the world. There are many that are truly heartbroken to see what has happened to Ammachi and her organization many feel she is not using her life appropriately and in truth. I know this would seem astonishing as so many thousands come. This is in response to the new program Ammachi has implemented at Amrita University School of Engineering to encourage and groom venture capitalists and entrepreneurs. It would be good to see that Ammachi is encouraging new businesses that will help the poor and hungry in India, rather then these other words which focus on encouraging others to come to Amritapuri and work on ways to create wealth and do not seem to take into account the need for Ammachi to be focusing on the charity she so often asks for during her touring. Please help us redirect Ammachi and her fame and power to that of truly serving poverty and hunger in the world. The devotees have truly gotten all they will ever need to get from Ammachi as a Master. A true Master (Raja Yoga, Sufi) lets go after a maximum of 10 years and then allows the disciple to go out in the world and truly serve. As far as a Sannyasin I do not know what the alternative would be. Please help us here, we see things have gone out of control with Ammachi's organization. We no not want to be disrespectful, but the world needs so much more, as the hungry and impoverished, and so much less of what Ammachi is doing traveling around the world selling things and making money. She should not be encouraging people to leave their lives and families to travel with her. People are scrambling around trying to earn money to keep up with touring. Let them serve their communities and have the freedom to serve other charity's around the world that are in need, as we are hearing that Ammachi's charity drive is actually taking away opportunity's for many other charities. There is a link to the SRF Walrus that has many interesting messages from Borg108, and many others. It is very worthwhile to read the message about the consultant and the AIMS incident (see below) and the claims of false charity. Many of Ammachi's non-profits are being run very poorly or only for profit. There are messages by two other people who have spent time at many other ashrams in India, which are run for free, and do not ask for any money for people to stay in them. Borg108 also mentions that Guru's in India are not supposed to ask for donations, especially during pujas, they are supposed to wait and allow God to care for their needs. Borg108 was in India on an Indian tour at this time and partaking in the planetary puja which required one to pay and many of the poor Indian's who truly needed the assistance of this puja could not afford to be part of this puja. Borg108 was told by an Indian woman on this tour that Ammachi had asked her to yell all children without fathers get back on the bus! Which in reality, shared the woman, was her translation of Ammachi yelling all you bastards get back on the bus! In peace (Please see the letter I wrote to the Director of Connectone as well below.) S Subject: Entrepeneur vs New Business - connectone.in Letter to a Bramachari who is now the Director of Connectone and a professor at Amrita School of Engineering. My brother is well aware of the two men you chose as Amrita friends- The Indus Entrepreneurs - One started Exodus, the other Hot-mail. (Their extreme wealth is very well known). It seems that Amma is leveraging a bit here. And the slick approach is to use the term Entrepreneur. Which means wealth for the sake of wealth. We also get the picture that Amma is trying to rebuild India with Western funding. Now even more so to draw Western funding to India. We hope that it is to further help the poor in India find better opportunities to live and work. Lets hope these young and budding venture capitalists and entrepreneurs want to help the poor and down trodden as it will do no good at all if we create another millionaire that builds a business and home for himself and his family. It seems you
[FairfieldLife] Re: Letter to Swami Ramakrishna and the Bramachari, director of connectone.in
Dear Members, The Bramachari that was spoken about in this post is Kamal Bijlani, information about his work can be found when you go to the website www.connectone.in And the Amritapuri School of Engineering. It is a website encouraging the grooming of all Entrepreneurs and Venture Capitalists in India, they are trying to network with other wealthy Venture Capitalists around the globe to ensure the success of Indias new Entrepreneurs and directly related to Amrita University School of Engineering. My earlier questions to this monk and the others working on this program are what does this have to do with renunciation? What does this have to do with The Hugging Saint's teaching of charity and living lives as renunciates in poverty? I received no answer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gita...@... gita...@... wrote: Dear all, This letter was sent to Swami Ramakrishna, at Amritapuri one of Ammachi's head Swami's. Many questions and sharing about what has been recently published in several resources on the internet. S Dear Swami Ramakrishna, (RE: New Business vs. Entrepreneur) Many are truly troubled in the West and in India by what they are seeing at Amritapuri. It is hard to see what others see when you live a confined life. We desperately need to be attending to the hungry and the poor. If you have any ability at all to share our concerns with Ammachi please do so. I wish I could give more and I give as much as I can. I would be considered impoverished by what I have and how I live in the US. But I do sponsor a poor child from the Dominican Republic through Children International. Even if Amma chose to help 1000-2000 of these children it would make a huge difference in the world. There are many that are truly heartbroken to see what has happened to Ammachi and her organization many feel she is not using her life appropriately and in truth. I know this would seem astonishing as so many thousands come. This is in response to the new program Ammachi has implemented at Amrita University School of Engineering to encourage and groom venture capitalists and entrepreneurs. It would be good to see that Ammachi is encouraging new businesses that will help the poor and hungry in India, rather then these other words which focus on encouraging others to come to Amritapuri and work on ways to create wealth and do not seem to take into account the need for Ammachi to be focusing on the charity she so often asks for during her touring. Please help us redirect Ammachi and her fame and power to that of truly serving poverty and hunger in the world. The devotees have truly gotten all they will ever need to get from Ammachi as a Master. A true Master (Raja Yoga, Sufi) lets go after a maximum of 10 years and then allows the disciple to go out in the world and truly serve. As far as a Sannyasin I do not know what the alternative would be. Please help us here, we see things have gone out of control with Ammachi's organization. We no not want to be disrespectful, but the world needs so much more, as the hungry and impoverished, and so much less of what Ammachi is doing traveling around the world selling things and making money. She should not be encouraging people to leave their lives and families to travel with her. People are scrambling around trying to earn money to keep up with touring. Let them serve their communities and have the freedom to serve other charity's around the world that are in need, as we are hearing that Ammachi's charity drive is actually taking away opportunity's for many other charities. There is a link to the SRF Walrus that has many interesting messages from Borg108, and many others. It is very worthwhile to read the message about the consultant and the AIMS incident (see below) and the claims of false charity. Many of Ammachi's non-profits are being run very poorly or only for profit. There are messages by two other people who have spent time at many other ashrams in India, which are run for free, and do not ask for any money for people to stay in them. Borg108 also mentions that Guru's in India are not supposed to ask for donations, especially during pujas, they are supposed to wait and allow God to care for their needs. Borg108 was in India on an Indian tour at this time and partaking in the planetary puja which required one to pay and many of the poor Indian's who truly needed the assistance of this puja could not afford to be part of this puja. Borg108 was told by an Indian woman on this tour that Ammachi had asked her to yell all children without fathers get back on the bus! Which in reality, shared the woman, was her translation of Ammachi yelling all you bastards get back on the bus! In peace (Please see the letter I wrote to the Director of Connectone as well below.) S Subject: Entrepeneur vs New Business - connectone.in
