When Charlie Lutes used to tour Iowa
City it was always talked about with baited breath.
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From: markmeredith2002
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest
answers)
There are also drugs and drugs.
For instance, opiates. They are
great pain killers, and one feels normal on them possibly, or even good. And
then one is addicted and cannot consider life without them.
(Beautiful Papaver somniferum
ver Nigrum. I love you. (I hate the world which keeps
Hey Laura, thanks for taking the
time for the shout out to us. I didn't know you but thanks for sharing. We
all will be joining you shortly. Not a single one of us will remain past
the alotted time for us to go. So fear not, you're in good company. You
will be meeting some of my heros
Everytime I try to do a good turn
someone just flakes out and doesn't need my help.
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From: Llundrub
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: Hi, from Laura C.
Hey Laura, thanks for taking
If they only have one dining hall
who gets to eat first?
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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:33 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest
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The teaching is becoming purer end
Jason, the first time you posted
here I thought you were just spamming us so I was a bit hostile. So
sorry.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Hi, from Laura C.
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Everytime I try to do a good turn someone just flakes out an
I just bought myself a new cheapo Harman/Kardon "amp". After I
geta pair of awesome Latvian[!] Radiotehnika loudspeakers, I'm
gonnalisten to Voodoo Chile, Axis: Bold as Love, Spanish CastleMagic, If
6 was 9, and stuff, like I've never had before!At the moment I only have
Mexican[!]
I feel like levitating but I don't.
I'm always like, I don't get why not, except it must be karma since I'm not very
much a great rishi or anything.
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Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 2:48 PM
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Boy, Sat Yuga is HOT!!!--That's
because Kali gets to strip down and lay out.
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I'll look around, but for the next month
or so I'm not in Parisbut down in the south of France. Such groups
aren't as popular here because it isn't trendy down here to be depressed
and self-important. That's more of a Paris thing.
:-)-Not true, I first heard of them in Aix.
To
So that's what that bad smell was. Was that you
mastebating again in the broom closet?OffWorld---Smell is in
the nose.
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YAHOO!
Sorry to ramble, but there are days when the weirdassthings that
spiritual traditions do to its followers just blowmy mind.
UncYour incredulity is mere smugness of an inner fanaticism
with your own boundaries. Whether truer or more open than others, it's still a
cage. Here I threw you
More seriously, I don't know the group,
probably won't everbecause 1) as you said French and rock 'n roll just don't
mix,and 2) Bertrand Cantat managed to murder an actress I likedwho had
all the looks and talent he doesn't seem to have. :-)Anyway, it didn't
inspire me to want to find out
In one sense, hearing stories like this is a bit
liberating,because you can't even resent the idiots who did thisor have
any ill wishes towards them. Any ill-wishing would be completely
redundant and useless. To be able to think like this, and justify this
kind of action, thepeople
They have their logic. I think you need to answer the question I
asked several posts back about keeping the purity of the teachiing.I
have to ask myself this question: If there was littleattempt to keep the
purity of the teaching by being careful whatgets interjected and absorbed in
to
I like David Lynch and I'm happy
that he found the desire to promote meditation. Maybe something will come of it.
Whether that is the case or not is probably based on how open he is to the roots
of the Movement and the range of the experiences of those who have created it,
as opposed to
I've seen everything he's ever
done. Eraserhead is actually inspiring if you can grasp the surreal sense
of it. The person in the cold world gets warmth and light from the room
radiator. In the end he falls in.
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From: Peter
Sutphen
To:
The trouble with this analysis is that
it's all black-and-white, no shades of gray.One of the problems
with cult-like thinking is that it often only sees in black and white. With
the program or off the program. Purity or impurity. Right technique or wrong
technique.Therefore when people
I was fucking with you, dude. I know the group, and their
music.I think both are mediocre beyond belief, and thought that
longbefore the drug-addled leader of the band decided to beat hismovie
star girlfriend into a bloody pulp. I was trying to avoid saying so,
since you seem to like
That doesn't mean that I don't like you,
merely that I don't likethis particular group, and thus am not likely to be
able to recommendany group that is somewhat similar. Shoulda just said
so at the start...Right, just should have said so.
Simple. I appreciate that. Thanks for the
you can't even resent the idiots who did thisor have any ill
wishes towards them.
-Because they actually weren't idiots.
Thinking that people are idiots is really just idiotic. Because on the one
hand there are no "people" at all. There are individuals. And on the other
to lump all
A valid point. I spent the day yesterday with a priest
friendwho was showing me around the parts of the Palais des Papesin
Avignon that the tourists can't get to. This involved the
secretpassages that the Popes used to get to their mistresses' roomsand
down to the torture chambers, where
---Actually
your reification of 'cult-like' thinking takes place upon some assumed
superior conceptual framework where 'cult-like' has some meaning.
However, viewing the situation without labels one would immediately see that
there is no TMO at all, there are many diifferent
I'm
not a Buddhist per se, by the way. I'm not anything in particular per
se. Buddhism has for me the most resonance I've found in a major
spiritual path, but that's the extent of it.There is dogma in traditional
Buddhism I don't believe fora minute, never will, and won't ever feel bad
recently relieved oftheir duties, initiations are pretty much dead,
enrollments at mum andother tmo institutions have been in decline for awhile
-- and all thisdecline while the founder is still alive. What will
happen when theprime source of inspiration in the tmo is gone and it's left
Thats a onesided story. Obviously
the TMO must have strong reasons for not wanting him on the
course.And those reasons are valid, simply because the TMO has
them?---Like he isn't a 6.9 version enlightened synchophant of the 6th
ray, but a mere 2.4 verson quasi-awakened acolyte of the
I have heard you talk "about" various esoteric Buddhist topics, but
honestly from my perspective you seem to miss the points much of the time--and I
know lamas have told you this as well. Interesting concepts if that's what your
into (and I certainly respect your right to do that if you
That was good writing Unc.
-My take. Tantrics are like TMers who
eschew any conventional notion of path or intermediary. Thus, if you have the
impulse to worship Mother Divine, you need not ask permission. They are not
necessarily TMers, but TMers can be tantrics. The basic notion
That's not what I said.
"I have heard you talk "about" various esoteric Buddhist topics, but honestly
from my perspective you seem to miss the points much of the time--and I know
lamas have told you this as well." is what I said.
But this isn't so. What esoteric
thing and what lama
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From: Patrick Gillam
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest
answers)
L B Shriver wrote: The Knowledge have actually been
compromised by the University. For
All we need is love huh?Been tried
before a million times. Unfortunately people are not stable in it, and
therefore large groups of yogic flyers generating bliss consciousness for
the world is the only way. Otherwise the next terrorist bomb will be in an
American city, and it will be
Nothing, but coming from Llundrub
it seemed out of place andhypocritical.
His posts are very hateful and harsh. Not love.
Hateful and harsh? Nay, nay. Inside all that swinging
and thrashing is a heart of pure love. True, true, true
:-)Third that.---I think that's fourth
Naw, I've been reading all the traffic here
from the beginning of the whole Raja thing,and I haven't seen a word
except the commentsabout the wives not being named in the photos.I'm
not even talking about the *political*aspects; we've known about the TMO's,
andMMY's, sexism for decades.
Yes, actually Atwill claims Jesus himself was an
invention of the Flavians, who included a lot of in-jokes in the gospel
about the "Son of Man coming in the lifetime of this generation" being
Titus and his family, ca. 70 AD. Hence this whole "our name is legion"
episode was a joking
Thanks, I'm gettin ' one of
Amma!I think one could count on a small, but certain clientele for
bobble head dolls along this line.lurk-That's a really
great idea! Bobble head Guru dolls.
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says more about your uptight and failed attitude to sex. Don't put
it on me.OffWorld
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Yes, I do not know if the Atwill hypothesis is
correct, but I do like to ask -- "Cui bono?" -- "Who benefits?" and
generally find this leads to useful ideas or insights in things as diverse
as 9/11, the London bombings (nicely timed to distract from the G8 issues
and put the focus back on
: [FairfieldLife] Re: was Email - Now comments on Gable's
editorial
Llundrub wrote:Notice how
the whole tone of this thread has shifted to an ad hominem
attack on Rick rather than a discussion of the op-ed piece and the
rather blatant lies of Pierson and Wallace. Hey Kirk or
anybody
Yes, I do not know if the Atwill hypothesis is correct, but I do
like to ask -- "Cui bono?" -- "Who benefits?" and generally find this leads
to useful ideas or insights in things as diverse as 9/11, the London
bombings (nicely timed to distract from the G8 issues and put the focus
back
Offworld wrote:
But Rick is a lost Yogi, which by the way is a huge comliment. You
others do not come up to that category. Here's your original quote: "I
like how Rick posts this kind of thing. It shows something at least. You are
a lost-yogi in a grey and directionless mind zone." Would
It's true. It's a a fucking garbage bag full of mealy
mouthed lying shit. When I was an MIU student I was told by Mario Orsati
to sit down and shut up when I had asked a question using the words Shiva and
Shakti and comparing them to Vedic Cognition. This was during a Forest Academy
and
Now, it seems that MMY and the TMO is making a lasting situation
with the women in the background, very humble and silent - it is just
terrible.Ingegerd-It is terrible coonsidering that the very
nature of enlightenment is based in the feminine view of the absolute. It's also
terrible
...just twenty four hours until Sat Yuga! Hey, I even got my car
washed yesterday for the occasion...(btw, absurd tone indicated
here...)
--Yeah, I've been hanging
out at Hip Forums reading their Members Official Stripping Thread wondering if I
masturbate will it prevent Sat Yuga
--Yeah, I've been hanging out at
Hip Forums reading their Members Official Stripping Thread wondering if I
masturbate will it prevent Sat Yuga from coming?More likely the
other way
around...Oh good. I might wait until the full moon rises
then. You know, considering the
PKD PKD a brilliant author. There is an openopeningnein one of his
books that I read years ago about a mantaking a rocket shuttle in a world
where Germany andJapan have won WWII. Does anyone remember the
title.When I read it it was one of those moments that a verydeep insight
occurred
Yes, we agree; (Fundamentalist) Christianity
is serving Bush precisely as it did the Roman empire -- if Atwill is
correct, serving precisely as it was designed to do all along.
Interestingly, there is a strong chance that George W. Bush (as well as his
distant cousin John Kerry, as well as
Aw hell, Bubba, of *course* Shiva is Satan!
They both got pitchforks and a big ol' serpent and oversee loads of demons
don't they!? -Actually, it might be true. There's loads of texts now
dealing with Shiva, crowned with the crescent moon as the original hunter
gatherer/phallic deity
So they began the meditation. I did TM; I don't knowwhat others
were doing, but I assume most of themweren't doing TM. And I was
disappointed, becauseit felt kind of chaotic, not at all like
meditatingwith others at the TM center.That's been my experience on
several other occasionsas well
On every single application I have ever filled
out for TMO it asked if I had used any other techniques. We all
knew not to say yes or we would be refused the technique, or have to
explain how we found the other technique ineffective and stoppped it.
sparaig wrote: So you lied. I
Lol, this from a guy that spent a whole post a few
eeks ago thanking Maharishi deeply and sincerely for the techniques. Are you
for real?OffWorld---Is there a contradiction? I thanked him for
the techniques, not the cult. Heheh.
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Because Petra asked me. My devotion lies with her, not with MMY
orthe TMO. Besides, taking the first bite out of the LC with
thatthrobbing diesel destructo-cruncher was a friggin' blast.
Thatbig-ass grin on my face was real, man. Why are you still
married if your a fag?Love. Something
Hey do me a favor since you're in Paris. I have this favorite French
rock group called Noir Desir. They are probably the only good French hard
rock band ever. Now I know they broke up and the singer Bertrand Cantat is in
psych ward for killing his girlfriend. Anyway can you ask some cats
the yogic ability to tell others' states
of consciousness, like Rick and me?
Yes.*lol* Now that *IS* funny! :-DOh
come on Rory, quit beating
Off.
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Cool! Prolly the best use the LC ever had.
-Well, pottery class was
instructive, but certainly not as good use by far. Core courses all I guess were
ok considering. I used to eat my GF out behind the curtain in Yajnavalkya during
class. Oh well, I guess it's best the higher ups don't
Yes, I think so too, Patrick. I don't feel much of a "charge"
around TM or TMO or MMY (or Amma or Karunamayi or Saniel Bonder for that
matter), but greatly enjoy living in FF and interacting with everyone
here on FFL -- feels something like a "soul family," I guess
:-)For me, it's
For me, it's feeling, craving for something familiar,
karma. ...while the world crumbles...Yes, I think
"family" and "familiar" are cognate (which word itself has a "familiar"
derivation) :-)Gotcha. The closest TM sibling I had was
Terrence Wassgren who was a fellow punk rocker
Jesus and twelve apostles, Shankara and four disciples,
Padmasambhava and 25 heart siblings, three main consorts and 25 billion
dakinis, Maharishi and ten rajas. What's the difference? Personally I
prefer Padmasambhava.
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From: Ingegerd
To:
The youngish Norweigan guy and a couple of the women
were at mIU when I was there, and I think one of the old sods was the director
here in New Orleans, a guy I actually really didn't like. So I'm like WTF?
He was the guy who said to me, "Consider where you live," when I asked to help
him
(Pop Quiz: How many boilerplate TMO phrases can you pick
out of the paragraph above?)enliven the Vedacollective
consciousnesslife-supportingsubtle levels of
creationAlex-This is an important perception and it goes
straight to the heart of the idea of creation of "coherence in
I did not see anybody from Norway in the pictures. It was one from
Denmark. Ingegerd
--Yeah,
him.
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A quality piece of writing, and you even managed in this
intellectual dissertation to say 'fuck' at least once!
---Thanks. Need something to
liven up otherwise merely dull thinking. I forgot who said it, that poetry is
meaning which needs feet to walk.First, how are you defining a
I agree and disagree with you, Billy. On one hand thewhole thing is
so absurd, but on the other hand I'msure the place was just saturated with
Bliss. It's thepure intent of the participants that counts.
And yet, if the awarenesses
of the participants was puny then their intentions
http://www.treeofthegoldenlight.com/First_Contact/mike_quinsey/
Check this page out Very positive
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From: Robert Gimbel
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:30 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Subject: Message from St
So the only way to prove the scientific truth of a means to
enlighten the world is to, as Nike says, "just do it".It is
analogous to trying to look around the corner and see what the experience of
death of the body is like. How would you prove that
scientifically?OK, but then we have
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-This is an important perception and it goes straight to the
heart of the idea of creation of "coherence in collective
consciousness" (a phrase which has no objective real
What's up with that? Why are there not
anyRajanis (?), and does that make any kind ofsense to anybody? Is
it "attachment" to beconcerned about it? It just seems to me tobe
way unbalanced, vibe-wise.---Rajani - 2 Million dollars.
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"We want to go high up in Yogic Flying as the moon rises and bring Sat
Yugadown. When coming down one can quietly say ?welcome to Sat
Yugasum--just asense of it.
---I am gonna do program but
I'm gonna say, Blessed Shri Mahakali when I am
hopping.
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I'm actually a channeller too, and St. Germain says
he's sick of being channelled. He said,"Leave me the fuck in peace. When I was
alive nobody gave a shit about me, so why are you buggin me now?" End of
transmission.
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From: Robert Gimbel
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Worship of some gods is dangerous--some are simply
incompatible with civilized living. They can destabilize the consciousness
of entire nations.Heheheh. Yeah, that god called God has a super
big ego.
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This article has nothing to do with TM.
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From: Cliff
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pandits return to Kashmir (still no
show in Vedic City)
I dearly hope so, as it would theoretically make
Beyond all these differences, there are two
features which are common to all fundamentalist religious movements: one,
that they claim their version of religion to be the only true one, and feel
threatened by pluralist systems of thought; two, that they use political
means to impose their
Jaizues ! You harp on and on and on about a
joke that I made and call me a fundamentalist because of a joke that I made.
Some sense of humor you got there bud.I thought that was a
joke because you have more buttons one can depress than a calculator. Moreover
pretty much everything you
no ill, yet he sticks the knife in at every opportunity he gets
--stabbing with a smile -- thus adding the stain of hypocrisy to the
stench ofbetrayal.
--As a literature student I object to the mixed metaphors as it
sounds like something an old folks home orderly would say. To make
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Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 8:30 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Email from an old friend
It's not a mixed metaphor, but I do prefer your version.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED]...wrote: no
ill, yet he sticks the knife i
It seems to me that that is the only way to judge
him, wether you know him or not. And he has consistently tried to tell
people this for 50 years. "It is not me that counts, it is the experience".
He said it I don't know how many
times.OffWorld-Being an MIU grad and having heard
So write a commentary to Fairfield Ledger saying that
you feel that it's best that people seeing others gurus not be allowed into the
domes.
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From: feste37
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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From: off_world_beings
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 2:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hey Llundrub
Can you find a way to stop f#cking up the up thread option.
It is very annoying and you and a couple of others use some method
In the Vajrayana there are four demons.
Obstructed, unobstructed, self-satisfied, self-righteous. Each comes from
reliance on obscured thinking.
Obstructed demons are our evaluations of things as good
or bad. Things might be entirely neutral but we get hung up on our
interpretation of
I am an MIU grad and an MUM grad and I have
heard thousands of hours of lectures and I can assure he has said this
MANY times for 50 years. OffWorld So
with all that meditation clocking how did you get so retarded?
Wow, clever answer..(not).--Karma's a bitch.
To
He's great. I actually watched the whole thing which
says alot (to me) since I have serious short attention deficit now. I had
to see how he did the solo. It makes me wish I had some talent
somewhere. Just kidding (sort of)
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From: cardemaister
To:
I usually don't argue with irrational maniacs, but I'll
condescend this once, just because you're still here.
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From: off_world_beings
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 3:49 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi's Methodology.
Two
Unfortunately it is impossible to talk to people likefeste37. Like
all fundamentalists they over-valuetheir concept of the "perfection" of the
teaching theyfollow and view all who even remotely fail to cast itin the
most glowing terms as unevolved, deludedindividuals engaging in vicious
-Being an MIU grad and having
heard Maharishi lectures for hundreds of hours I have never heard M say what
you just quoted him as saying.I am an MIU grad and an
MUM grad and I have heard thousands of hours of lectures and I can assure he
has said this MANY times for 50
These are good points. They didn't seek out
people who are happy with TMO, only MUM officials. And the attitude some of
the Amma followers does seem like fundamentalist anti-TM'rs.
OffWorldActually, they aren't good points because the
article raised a topic and an issue and showed the
Ludicrous any way you slice it.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] new coronation photos- Many!
http://pictures.globalgoodnews.com/coro1.html
I was a member of the Global Government of World Peace
when they were taking roster names on their website. I later asked to be removed
from their Government, and the letter should be in the archives somewhere.
But then I decided to join the actual global government of world peace -
Sorry Guy, I was on the rag. It's not important.
Against the backdrop of an organization so out of touch that they crown their
own kings and divide up a fantasy world, who really cares aye? Please
forgive my insults.
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People weren't gay back then. They were just manly
men.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Special Prosecutor; "Rove Not Target of
Investigation"
--- In
When I was a kid, we used to get sick of hearing about
wars int he Middle East. Everyone used too say, we should just drop a bomb on em
and put them out of their misery.
Well at least good old Bush has the balls to relinquish
old fashioned thought and laissez faire mentality to go ahead
Ed Beckley witnessed that event and told the
story in his book, Dance of aRich Yogi. Amma doesn't shovel shit every
day, but let you or me tryhugging thousands daily and see how long we last.
I don't think men could really do the job. There's the having to
explain the erection thing.
Title: Email from an old friend
Your 'friend' has missed the sense of the subtle
elements which is all pervasive light. Thus he is no friend to anything at all.
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From: Rick Archer
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:53 AM
Life@yahoogroups.com,
"Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was a kid, we used to
get sick of hearing about wars int he Middle East. Everyone used too say, we
should just drop a bomb on em and put them out of their misery.
Well at least good old Bush has the balls to relinquish old
The show is defunct and it was perhaps the greatest TV
series ever.
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Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: America =
Liberal
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"You wouldn't like it much if the epithet
'cultist' was applied to you, right? If that's so, you might think about not
trying to brand others with it. Just my
opinion..."(52055)-Recently in New Orleans a woman was
kicked out of a Starbucks for breast feeding at her table.
To
Why do you have to comment to the Nth degree on
absolutely everythingand then keep beating it long after it has
died.Sheesh.Well, Sheesh, probably because it's like his cock.
That's what you did want to say, isn't it?
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OK. I think I am not going to speculate further on what Rick did or
did not feel,
-If he was like me he was
feeling the inside of a nostril.
and whether those feelings or non-feelings do or do not constitute true
friendship.
-My truest friends and I
were friends till the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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ANger can happen, even in the bestof friendships.Of course. No argument
there. Anger honestly and cleanly expressed is Truth, another form of Love.
To me, the friend was implying their friendship was over, and
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wrote: "It's OK, I still love you" is possibly the ultimate
insult from one adult to another.That's really a sad thing to
say.
You're not old enough to appreciate it then ;)
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