Michael, you blind spots never cease to amaze.
Look at your weekly post count average. Now figure that 9-1/2 out 10 of every
one of your posts is a negative tirade against TM. You post probably 2 to 1 to
my posts. Maybe 3 to 1.
So, the numbers tell the tale of who is consistently
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Your problem with the movement, Edg, is quite simple: you gave yourself away
like
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
It doesn't sound to me as if you approached your life in a very sensible way.
Always looking to someone else for answers, foolishly spending money.
I know someone in both camps and he was saying that the last unofficial course
he went on the meditators they taught were asking him how much he'd been
brainwashed by the movement because they do that don't they. He denied any
thing of the sort, but then he doesn't read the comments
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Unfortunately its not a joke - the person who wrote that is a fine example of
the lack of decency the Movement churns out.
I just love your serious tone Michael. It is always a hoot, (and hollow, to
boot)
From: salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Steve,
Once again you have provided a very succinct insight that could be of benefit
to many.
Rather than blame Daddy or find that there's some cult that fucked them
up...how about a little self-reflection?
Try it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Sal:And that, in a nutshell, is why people get involved with religious groups
like TM that promise the world and yet deliver nothing. Maybe you missed the
intro talk, maybe you never heard Marshy talking about
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
There you go, you can stop scratching your head now...
Okay, thank you.
#salyavin808,
Thanks for the synopsis. The scorpion nation fell from grace originally
because a bunch of old UK TM teachers broke ranks
Hey, MIchael,
Just a FYI that I'm sure will go right over your head.
I'm not the one who has compared his writing, or his postings to Edg.
That distinction belongs to you.
If you think you have 100th, er,make that 1000th, of the street cred as Edg,
it is just another delusion
look at your life MIchael. where are you, day after day, week after week, now
coming up on year after year, crying, I was done wrong. You, you and you, you
were all done wrong, and I have decided to make it my life's mission to make
you realize that. Wait!, What!, you don't feel you were done
Funny, we get so many unsolicited reviews from Barry, and now we ask for one,
and he says, no. no I won't. and I may never. so there!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
Translation: I read a few paragraphs standing at a book-stall in Amsterdam
but I couldn't afford
like
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
At one time, I considered signing up for a TTC until I found out how much it
would cost and how long it would take. So, I finished school instead and got a
job working to raise a family. That way, I had plenty of time to read
He's a 70 year old man, having a tantrum like a 5 year old boy.
Sorry, not the same situation.
I have a 21 year old son, working through issues.
I am not oblivious to those kinds of issues.
And for your information, I am addressing the issues with my son in a concrete
way, not
and thank you for that Barry. I say that because it has always been painful to
criticize you, because I like you, so any criticism has been made much easier
knowing that there will be no reply.
and of course your participation here has been curtailed since the only
feedback you entertain is
Oh, Michael, you are the gift that keeps on giving. And was the post right
after that?
One Michael Jackson lampooning the Fairfield community's effort for suicide
prevention.
So, what conclusion do we draw from this?
Michael shows outrage at Ray's question to a 70 year old man about
Fine Michael, whatever you say. But I am not so utterly ignorant to suggest
that I have the same status as Edg in matters of the TMO.
Yes, compared to you, I have much more to draw on, but you were the one that
suggested you are Edg's equal in terms of movement credibility.
Grow up
You know one little thing I've discovered in life, Edg? That sometimes I am
fixed on a target, or a goal with a certain expectation of a payoff. And as a
result of that fixation, I may miss a lot of things that are happening
underneath the radar, so to speak, all which are positive, and all
and sorry back to you Wayback.
your shaming play isn't going to work
you show a little outrage about MJ's lampooning of the FF community outreach
for suicide prevention and maybe we'll talk.
and I seem to have missed your outrage at some the posts Edg has made here.
it's called
Share,
We know fairness, honesty, integrity are qualities that don't show up on
MIchael's radar, at least for anything to do in a discussion about the TMO.
The goal is singular, and the ends justify the means.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
Steve, good
is that the 100th, or 1000th time you have said that in some manner?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
We know what your agenda is.
You don't know anything except your own self absorbed TM is good blather.
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]
hey goof ball, you complained that you were not given the same status as Edg
and Sal, by those so called TM defenders.
Look it up. Or don't.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
you are like Willy tex either incapable of reading comprehension or just a
complete
Michael,,
LIsten, this was probably 500 posts ago, being that you make close to 100
posts per week, all with the same theme, of course. Maybe you've forgotten the
context. It was pretty clear to me, it wasn't the big joke you make it out to
be, but bring it up if you want and we can
Thank you MIchael. Best to you as well.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Unfortunately you have none nor any sense of decency or common sense either -
no wonder since you did TM for so long
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
I hope to read this when I get a few minutes, but really Barry, you really
dig this packing as many insults as you can into a few sentences.
Is this your legacy as a writer?
His writing efficiency was displayed in that he was regularly able to pack
the maximum amount of insults in a
I think if I were sitting at a restaurant bar, or a coffee bar, and Edg said to
me what he posted, I would likely say, well why don't you fuckin' kill
yourself then
Now maybe Edg would have taken offense to that, but that is, often, wayback,
how men often talk to one another.
I am sorry
Like a big so what
I think it's you, Barry, who seems pre-occcupied with people's enlightenment.
A prime example is Jim's. No one seems overly concerned about it, except for
you.
Again, with the story below, a big so what
I think what you've forgotten Barry, is that the
Easy Richard, she may cover her eyes and run off. That selective moral outrage
is always a hoot.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
So Steve's words cross a line for wayback but not Edg's words
main points anyone?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
JYOTISH ALERT FROM CHRIS HARTNETT
MY MOST IMPORTANT POST EVER
OK, I didn’t invent astrology and I am not here to sell you anything. If you
don’t believe in the Stars and the Planets and their effect on your life, so
I'm blushing Ann.
Thanks.
I think, like you, we've traveled some rough roads. It's the only way to
survive.
I think this was actually compliments of Barry.
I like this expression, and some of the sentiments expressed.
Volvo Trucks - The Epic Split feat. Van Damme (Live Test
Nice post, as usual Edg. There is nothing like a good challenge, and you give
us plenty.
Nothing like being kept on..edge, like you do to us here.
As I get older, I find in some ways, I'm feeling more messed up, and is some
ways feel like I'm figuring things out, at least on the
Xeno,
Thank you for this reply.
I find very little to take issue with, and quite a few of the lines, made me
smile, , so thank you for that.
There are things you've brought up, that I am going to mull over. (that's how
I do things)
Thank you again for a perspective I had not
As usual, it's all about you. I did enjoy the third person angle though. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Steve,
You do need to pay attention to what other people say about
Now, that is funny!
So, I'm in this beauty/ massage place in California called sumbody (owner also
has great things for soft skin). The lovely young woman working and helping
gets to talking about goat soaps and stuff. Turns out that goats have the same
ph as us, so we benefit some
Hey, it looks like you found someone to discuss the book with. Might be the
only safe bet! (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
So how does one of the world's great atheists and opponents of religion
discuss the concept of gurus? Pretty well, actually, probably
Since its come up again, I wanted to say that I originally mistook Susan for
Geezerfreek, (Joe). If I had not been confused like that, my reply to Susan
(wayback) would have been milder. I do subscribe to the Michael Jackson
program of being deferential to the female gender. It's just the
Do ya get the feeling, Barry's falling into a Sam Harris sez type pattern?
I mean according to Barry, half the internet has read his book.
sorta funny, I think
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote :
Great find, Geez.
It's quite an experience watching this and
Well, it seems like Barry had a lot riding on this release. Highly anticipated
by him. It doesn't look like he's getting the response he hoped for, even with
half the internet..
Or maybe it was all the ground rules he laid down.
Go figure.
---In
I concur with Edg that MMY seemed pretty grumpy. I chalk that up to old age
also. I concur with Fleet that the interviewer had an agenda that he was
promoting, and had no interest in trying to present a balanced picture, and his
derision was barely concealed.
I did enjoy seeing my old
as if you could possibly see anything to do with TM or MMY in an objective way.
all you do is just repeat the same lines over and over
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Marshy was a self centered selfish adolescent in many ways. The reporter was
just too much for
You put your own spin on it, just like anyone else. When you've got an axe to
grind, then you interpret things accordingly. You are no more free of bias
than anyone else. Your statements below reflect that.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In
Or use extreme examples as the norm. Or use outdated policies as current
Of course it's a dishonest way to go about things, but it serves a purpose for
those with an agenda.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Take what you need and leave the rest, as
Did anyone say they could fly. My friend Michael B, was the flyer
interviewed. Both he and Bevan were clear that they were hopping. That was
the word used, right?
Bevan indicated that when the world from free from stress, then people could
float. Okay, I'm not buying that.
Bevan said
Sure, I understand that those questions are awkward. I understand that it is
the reporters job to ask those questions.
I also understand that the reporter didn't like the answers to those
questions, and that was evident.
Sure a reporter will press the interviewee. But a reporter
Maybe some day your repeating saying so, will make it so.
And you show no sign of letting up, so I guess we'll be able to see if that's
the case.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
No matter how much you protest against normal people not believing in TM, no
right Michael, it's the same old, same old from you. you'll probably say it a
dozen more times before the day ends.
(hey, do you have self imposed quota?)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
It was only biased to someone desperate to see some good in what is
I can't help wonder, Michael, how this etched in granite attitude that you have
towards the TMO, impervious to any evidence to the contrary, plays out in real
life.
Let's hope that your dysfunctionality and obsessiveness is limited only to the
TMO, but I suspect that is not the case.
We
like I said, impervious to any evidence to the contrary
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
and your TM positive schtick is what, a rut? Or some blissful truth Marshy
graciously gave you? Or a rut?
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]
and what might also be healthy for you Michael, is to not spend so much time
thinking about TM.
Give it some thought, why don'tya?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
After spending most of the day raking leaves, hauling leaves to the road,
putting together my new
You are a sweetie, Michael.
As though I really expected you to give up your several hour a day obsession
with TM!?
Not gonna happen, I'm afraid.
But talking about mind controljeez, I guess
that escapes you.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
I get all that about enjoying life with eyes open. I don't do meditation much
anymore, and when I do, it, it is to calm me down,or get a few minutes of deep
rest. And yes, occasionally a deep transcending will occur.
But I will say the hours I spent dipping the cloth, sometimes days, weeks,
Not sure what you are saying here, other than your usual knee jerk reaction,
which never requires much thought.
I suppose the thinking process goes like this.
(In the bubble)
I don't particularly care for the guy making the comment. It mentions
something about TM, or spirituality. I
I am wondering if this will generate any comments from the no such thing as
woo woo contingent here.
I happened to also be thinking about all the weird phenomenon that exists, all
according the laws of physic, albeit, laws not typically seen.
I think it was Ann who post the video showing
I think what you are saying is that there phenomena that we may have considered
to be impossible, until they are demonstrated, and supported by heretofore
unknown laws of physics.
There are many examples, and could one day explain human levitation if it is
demonstrated.
If I am not
Does everything need to have practical value?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
What is the practical value? What is the quality of life? One can attain
moksha and enlightenment without this. Why bother?
On 09/21/2014 02:04 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
I
Michael,
Your knowledge is always so far reaching, insightful and unerringly correct.
Perhaps the most accomplished Vedic scholar we have here.
Okay, the most accomplished Vedic scholar, anywhere?
How do you do it?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Given that there are plenty of ways he could be cheating I know where I'm going
to put my money.
Sure, what interested me was that the environment seemed to be controlled. I
suppose it could be a case of deception, but I haven't looked into it to see if
there are accusations of that sort.
Hey, if you subscribe to the notion that if it's Vedic, if it's Indian, then
it's got to be bullshit, fine.
You will likely be the one, that when something along these lines is shown to
be accurate, to say, Well, of course, this is just some heretofore law we
hadn't known before
You will
You are reiterating that other guys argument. It violates the laws of
biology, or metabolism, so it must be false. There are no unexplained events,
and so, on that basis, I declare it impossible
I believe that is called appeal to authority, which is fine, except it
ignores that the study
Right, I think so Share.
What I find bothersome, is the arrogant attitude, that science is the final
word on such things, knowing of course that science is updated on a daily basis.
And then, when something heretofore considered impossible is explained, then
the reply is, Of course, it
Michael,
It is refreshing to hear you attempt to take the high rode on such matters.
Of course sometimes your ridicule hits the mark, but much of time it is down
the line, party line, indiscriminate, ridicule.
You cannot, I repeat, cannot, put lipstick on a pig. So your attempt to
Impossible! This is the third time I've caught you putting words in my mouth.
If you have evidence that a regular intake of food and water is optional I want
to hear it.
I don't! But evidently you have no explanation for the results of this
anomaly other than, I don't like the results,
Sorry you wild wild things, I don't think there will be any surprises from
gravity and metabolism, I think we've got those pretty sussed - at least as far
as floating and not eating for 70 years is concerned LOL.
Thank you for this. You probably don't realize that this is the sentiment
Is this a corollary to the as long as I can find some way to insult someone,
or insult their beliefs,then I am having one hell of a good day?
or the, I can't be bothered to read 80% of what is posted here, because I
find it far below my intellectual threshold, but I sure as hell will try to
Sal, who the hell are your trying to convince? Yourself?
I don't care if the guy didn't eat or drink for 70 years. It makes me no
nevermind.
Nor am I trying to convince anyone of the whether this is some grand
achievement.
All I'm saying is that the dude, if you believe the reports
Thanks Jim, I liked that.
I mean you seem to get this pounding of the shoe on the podium, This is what
science says is possible, and that's that! Jeez, lighten up dude.
My wife worked at IBM for 13 years. They have highly paid people whose job it
is to just think about things.
---In
Michael, excuse me, if I already commented on this post, but this is just so
hilarious.
This notion of you being committed to the truth
Is this a morning coffee through the nose onto the computer screen moment?
It's as close as you can get.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Oh thank you Michael. This is the diagnosis I've been waiting for. I didn't
know what was wrong with me,until now.
But, one small suggestion. Keep whatever metrics you might use to evaluate my
life entirely subjective. I wouldn't want real life to intrude on any of your
fantasies. (-:
As usual, you miss the point Sal.
I believe the expression for what you do,is, leading from behind
Just a bit too timid to go beyond the orthodoxy of present day science.
And seemingly threatened as well.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
2nd comment. pretty sussed says it call. Probably what you said 10 years
ago, 20 years ago, 50 years ago.
But then when the new discovery comes on, why, it's just what I was saying
yes, it's called, leading from behind
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com
metrics Michael, metrics. keep them subjective. you'll sleep better that way.
no chance for CD.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Only to a fool.
From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
The fact that the general populace has not embraced this, is one of the proofs
that it is deception, says the scientifically minded salyavin
can you say, leading from behind?
I think you can.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote :
But salyavin, we've already had
He seems to have elevated Michael's status to being the standard bearer of
objectivity.
Talk about woo woo!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Again, I am glad Barry doesn't read my comments, but it occurred to me, that
Barry recently brought up the frog in the increasingly hot water as he is wont
to do.
I wonder if Barry realizes that over time his engaging in dialog, and
discussing things with an edge has just become simply a non
I enjoyed LOTR.
The two parts that bothered me the most was the lame, playing the army of the
dead card to win the battle. Very lame indeed.
And Gandolf suddenly turning the flying insect into a bird and then a means of
escape.
Yes, playing those magic woo woo cards lessens the
absolutely. if they can't have full transparency and disclosure, it doesn't
count for anything.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Holy man not allowed to be studied by the Indian Rationalist association who
have a track record of exposing similar frauds?
Michael, add omniscience to your many remarkable attributes.
Talk about being a superman!
You, my friend, are quite the candidate. Self proclaimed or not.
Your greatness will be discovered. Greatness like yours cannot go unnoticed.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
look, if it doesn't hold up to thorough analysis, then it can't be considered
as valid.
now, please ignore this comment, and go back to your endless loop of how yada,
yada, yada are true believers, yada, yada, yada.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
if you
This is the continuous loop for Michael. Sadly what appears to make up a good
portion of his time each day. But, when you in a rut..
How does it work. A body in motion, tends to stay in motion..
Oh my, did I just use a scientific analogy for a non
You're beautiful Michael,
Maybe one day, you will realize that the rut where you spend so much time, is
really a rather grungy space.
But, it's like home to you. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Difficult for someone whose brain has been fried by TM to
Right, your name calling is just gaining steam. Sorry it something strikes too
close to home.
Just what we need: another shoot the messenger personality. You guys revel in
this.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In
Good luck to you Barry. By the way, I still like you. I'm just sorry you've
fallen into the black hole of cynicism and insult, along with an occasional
informational or humorous post.
If you could only see yourself like most others
do
---In
Right, wr to the latest debate about the man not eating for 70 years. If it is
a fraud, as it appears it is, by the lack of transparency of those who put it
out there, then great. Salyavin was right. No problem.
It is more the attitude you describe below.
Sal's posting that that the
Look, stop your name calling. If I've misquoted you, just set the record
straight and move on. You stated that, if an incident like this were genuine,
it would result in widespread interest. If I'm wrong, point it out.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com
Hey, if you say so. Can't prove otherwise. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Right, wr to the latest debate about the man not eating for 70 years. If it
is a fraud, as it appears it is,
It's sort of strange. He posts something and then he runs away. And then
claims people are trying to engage him.
I don't know why, but the image of Boo Radley, hiding behind the door comes to
mind.
Come out Boo. It's alright. No one is going to hurt you.
---In
Bless you Barry. A thousand times bless you.
It's always sad when someone you once considered fairly intelligent and
halfway balanced demonstrates to you how badly you were wrong. The problem with
Steve-o is that he seems to really *believe* that anything a person believes
should be off
And maybe, somehow, it does point to a lack of experience. Maybe not having
had an experience that can't easily be explained by any kind of conventional
science.
You get a few of those under your belt, and it can inform your view about
things.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Ann, it really does pain me to say this, but the posturing we see when Curtis
comes around. Oh my!
When he plays his atheist card! My Lord, the posturing, the posturing. Oh
the humanity!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote :
---In
In the interest of fairness, I feel compelled to point out there was several
year hiatus of being a channel.
Uh, yeeeaaau. Real life indeed. (-:
And really, is it plausible to consider that your failure to make a mark as a
spiritualist has contributed to your unadulterated anger towards
I don't hear Dan making the claim that this was a genuine miracle.
All I hear Dan stating is that there are aspects of metabolism and biology
that we may not fully understand., and that Yogis may be capable of miracles
along these lines in their own right.
And there are many examples
What a strange interpretation.
Talk about seeing what you want to see.
But I guess that's the view from the ivory tower of elitism.
Poor common folk, who don't believe as you do.
Do take pity on us, kind sir!
But that wouldn't accomplish what they want, they want us to
Precious Michael, precious.
Are you the same Michael Jackson, who just a few months ago feigned genuine
concern for the Fairfield residents faced with the silo situation?
Show of hands.
Yes indeed, it was you.
How very precious.
A true piece of work you are Michael.
But
Oh, did you just feel the tension in the room dissipate.
Thank you Michael, thank you.
It's just been pins and needles up to this point.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
I agree with both of you in all that you have said here - well said, both.
From:
My God, Michael, what a wide mouth funnel you have. Whatever comes in the wide
mouth, comes out the other as an indictment of the 'ol TM.
So, now you lay your channeling sojourn at the feet of MMY and his
organization.
Oh well, it seems that everything else you do, from buying a leaf
Can someone pull that TM drip out Michael's vein. Please!
The guy has got to learn to view the world through something other than this
TM lens.
God save the queen!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
Mr. Salyavin,
here is a BBC news bit:
The number of
Wait, did I miss it?
Where is it?
It's got to be here some place!
Please Lord, please.
Where is the holy connection?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
The other question I have for Sal is:
What do you think of the UKIP?
I like this quote
Hey, just forget about pulling out the drip.
I think we're past the point of no return. (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
If true, which I doubt, the effect of 50,00o yf'ers will be the same as no
yf'ers
From: srijau@... srijau@...
To:
This is the tell Ann, and this has always been the tell for most behaviors.
When they feel the need to tell you, over over that you are cult apologist,
then the likelihood is that you are not a cult apologist.
When they tell you over and over, maybe three of four times a day, up to a
I see. I thought I recalled some mindfulness, or something similar in the
modulates you put forth. Sorry if I misrepresented your involvement.
Maybe the those three alternative therapies will help, as I believe TM has
been demonstrated to help, in spite of your assertions to the contrary.
Forty years ago he left the organization, or so he says.
Or maybe it's a situation where you can take Turq out of the TM, but you can't
take the TM out of Turq!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
snip:
Just gotta say...
I clicked on Nabby's link
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