On Mar 21, 2005, at 10:19 PM, akasha_108 wrote:
Yes, I am having similar difficulty. Particularly when Tom describes
it as Consciousness experiencing Consciousness.
Vaj writes:
Yeah. Mahat or Infinite Mind is the witnesser.
Tom T:
Patanjali chapter 4 Enlightenment (Alistair Shearer
Tom T comments interspersed
Tom T Snipped:
The understanding this experience is wholeness is a
major criteria of the reality of Brahman. Inside this wholeness
resides all creation.
Vaj writes:
I listened to her--I assume it's the same women--she described the
dawning of the state (Rick will
Tom Traynor wrote:
Once this lady got the Understanding then it
all fell into place and she saw it all as the
perfection and she now rests in absolute
certainty while still living the paradox of a
typical turbulent life in FF. That is the underlying
paradox, nothing in life has changed
Fresh comments below:
Tom Traynor wrote:
[Brahman consciousness] is not an experience,
it is an understanding that needs no Master.
The understanding is complete in an of itself.
No Master needed as the knowledge in the
understanding is complete in and of itself.
Absolute
Much more comments below:
Tom T
I was infinite mind and I
was looking at my finite mind and I knew that my finite mind was
never going to understand what had happened in a million years. That
is the paradox that is the hallmark of this understanding. Nothing
has changed and yet everything has
More Tom T comments on Stealth Sutra at the bottom:
Tom T:
The true reason for the sutras was to wake you up. The levitation
gig was to give the ego a reason to continue the practice long enough
to finish the wake up process, which was built into the practice.).
Vaj:
I understand what you are
Tom T comments interspersed
Akasha 108 writes:
Mind / body / reflections that I know and love that allude to knowing
infinite mind, though discrete and the opposite of showy, do exhibit
some amazing capabilities at times that would be consistent with
being infinite mind.
Can this lady, or
Vaj writes:
A View--your inner darshana, your POV shouldn't be thought of as a
meditational experience. It is your new horizon, your new world, your
cosmos and cosmology.
It sounds to me as if you are describing CC, not BC/UC. While I do
know that there is a state without need of
Tom T writes:
One other book you might find interesting is the bio of Wayne
Liquorman. You can find him on the web. He was an extreme example of
name and form. He was a devotee of Ramesh Balsekar. Ramesh would spend
about one month a year in the US giving darshan to anyone who wanted
to attend
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From my side the smoking, drinking and drugging were my ways of acting
out my beliefs. In other words the behavior was the indication of a
deeper problem. I spent 12 years in a Big Kids ALANON group where many
of the beliefs that caused the behavior came to light. Once the belief
was out in the
Peter Sutphen writes:
Interesting. The subject-object dynamics of the senses
don't seem to remain the same as you move from gross
to subtle. Do the senses project the objects of
their experience? You can transcend with your eyes
open thinking about this stuff!
-Peter
Tom T:
The interesting
Vaj writes: re Sidhi practice
I still use it, you can integrate it, I don't feel any need to reject
it as a practice. But it cannot lead to UC. Well maybe Unity Andy...;-)
Tom T:
Well actually the Sidhi practice might lead to a minute or two in
Unity and then the entire weight of the practice
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