[FairfieldLife] White Privilege, White Entitlement and the 2008 Election
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1755 White Privilege, White Entitlement and the 2008 Election A BUZZFLASH GUEST CONTRIBUTION by Tim Wise For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help. White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because every family has challenges, even as black and Latino families with similar challenges are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay. White privilege is when you can call yourself a fuckin' redneck, like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll kick their fuckin' ass, and talk about how you like to shoot shit for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug. White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action. White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're untested. White privilege is being able to say that you support the words under God in the pledge of allegiance because if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me, and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the under God part wasn't added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals. White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you. White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was Alaska first, and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful. White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist. White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a second look. White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt. White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black
[FairfieldLife] Re: Amy Goodman Two Democracy Now! Producers Arrested at RNC
Hi Turq, I watched Democracy Now! this morning. It's amazing how far America has gone off track. We've gotten use protesters no longer having rights in this country. Apparently, journalists no longer have rights. Quite frightening. I've been a fan of Amy Goodman for years. She's one of the last great journalists Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great journalism: http://www.democracynow.org/ Amy and the two producers talk about trying to do their job and cover the protests at the RNC and being violently arrested by police. It's a fascinating contrast to, say, Fox News. Or even MSNBC or some of the other broadcasters who aren't really out there on the streets. Those who have the attention span to watch a real newcast, one that conjurs up images of protests of other years, please note that Amy is the first to admit that some of the protesters got out of hand and started breaking windows. But most didn't, and all that the NPR people were doing was trying to film it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dan Rather Reports - Mind Science
Thanks, Vaj. I really enjoyed the report. Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scientists, with the help of Buddhist monks and the Dalai Lama, are unlocking mysteries of the brain. Dan Rather Reports airs Tuesdays at 8pm ET. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4846933362481486227pr=goog-sl
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Power Of Myth
Hi Turq, I did some research on Ron Teeguarden and Dragon herbs. Sounds really interesting. I contacted his office this afternoon. His consultation fee is quite high. Do you think it's worthwhile? Thanks, Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu buttsplicer@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I'm suggesting that this focus extends to the myths that we revere, and that we should take some care about which ones we choose to focus on. Here is my myth: I believe that the mind is structured in language, which effectively is saying this cultural phenomenon called myth is part of our physiology. We think in terms of stories. Exactly. We tell them to others and we tell them to our selves, and unfortunately the selves tend to listen. :-) Fortunately we have a pre-frontal lobe that can be put to use for discerning facts from fiction. Everyday we play a cosmic dance of between mythos and logos. Exactly the distinction I've been rapping about lately with regard to tales of power and the *intent* behind them. Richard Burton once did a cool thing. (This is not as total a non-sequitur as it seems...be patient.) A friend attended one of his stage performances of a play for which there were no props -- only a chair onstage -- and no costumes. After the play, the friend said, I loved the part where you made everyone in the audience laugh. Burton said, Oh? Did you like that? Come back tomorrow night and I'll make everyone in the audience cry on the same line. And the friend did. And Burton did. Same tale of power, different intent. Same mythos, different logos. We live myths everyday. We are not subject only to classic myths like the Vedas or Sisyphus. I just want to go on record as saying that I think you're contributing to creating a myth on television, and a very nice one, with a really clean intent. For example I have been plagued with intestinal problems as long as I remember. I have been treated by alternative and conventional doctors. Each offering their mythology about what was happening and how it should be treated. I know the placebo effect is 60% effective in relieving intestinal problems. This means both alternative and conventional medicine can not fully tackle what is wrong with me. In the end I am left with having to objectify this malady as best I can. I write down what I eat or which pill I take and how it relieves symptoms. I keep my eyes open for the next myth that may offer solace. This is Just Another Story, certainly not a myth, but if you haven't tried Chinese tonic herbs yet, since you live in L.A. you might look up the name of Ron Teeguarden. I had dyspepsia for many years, had grown so used to it that I didn't even mention it when I consulted with him about some other issues, and within a few days of taking the tonic herbs he suggested, the dyspepsia went away. As did the other issues I'd been more concerned about. It might help, might not, but I just thought I'd mention it. Buddhism calls this action discernment. Fortunately, meditation is an excellent exercise to strengthen discernment. I would say also that practicing discernment in one's daily life is an excellent exercise to strengthen meditation. We learn that thoughts come and go, they can be held before us for observation. This is an important step to moving in the direction of understanding the interlocking and important motion of mythos and logos. I like that -- the interlocking and important motion of mythos and logos. It's another way of expressing the interaction of karma and free will. It is an action that is not intellectual or intuitive, it certainly does not depend on feelings. But it does require mindfulness, clear centered awareness. And it's fun to boot.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: HH Orgyan Kusum Lingpa; Great Master Visiting LA!
Hi Turq, I am going to attend this event tomorrow. I'll post my experience afterwards. Thanks for the recommendation. Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have met this gentleman, and heartily suggest that if you're in the area you do likewise. He is the very incarnation of what a compassionate spiritual teacher should be. Note the prices, and compare them to the prices for the residence courses that were recently posted here. And, as every TM teacher knows, *none* of the people leading them were ever trained in how to do anything other than teach basic TM. This is how spiritual practice should be taught and how spiritual knowledge should be shared. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kirk kirk_bernhardt@ wrote: HH Orgyan Kusum Lingpa; Great Master Visiting LA! Friends, Occasionally a great master visits LA. This is one of those times! His Holiness is one of the living regents of Padmasambhava (Guru Rinpoche), the great enlightened one who brought Buddhism to Tibet. He is one of a handful of living masters who received his training and attained accomplishment while still living in Tibet. Below is a notice about a one day event taking place in Los Feliz at the local Chagdud Gonpa center, Thondup Ling - two empowerments (ritual initiations) are being offered. One is the wealth deity Ögyen Dzambhala, the other is the Buddha of Power, Vajrapani. These practices were both given to His Holiness by Padmasambhava in a previous life to be revealed in this time in order to benefit beings. His Holiness survived over two decades in Chinese prison through the blessings of his practice and his connection with Vajrapani and Padmasambhava. You can read more about His Holiness at the bottom of the notice. I would highly recommend you find the time to attend one or both of these empowerments. To make a connection with His Holiness in this way is a profound and rare opportunity! If you need to hear more, don't hesitate to contact me. Under the Auspices of His Eminence Chagdud Tulku Rinpoche and The Venerable Lama Chödak Gyatso Nubpa Chagdud Gonpa T'hondup Ling is honored to present His Holiness Orgyan Kusum Lingpa ONE DAY ONLY Two Precious Empowerments ÖGYEN DZAMBHALA VAJRAPANI March 22, Saturday 10:30 AM and 4:00 PM @ T'hondup Ling, Los Feliz ÖGYEN DZAMBHALA EMPOWERMENT and Tshe-Guk Blessing (Summoning of Longevity Bestowal of Enrichment) March 22, Saturday 10:30AM Suggested Donation $35.00 Members Donation $30.00 It is said that for beings of the kaliyuga, the degenerate age, Guru Rinpoche's blessings are swifter and more potent than ever. As an expression of his all-pervasive great compassion, Guru Rinpoche manifested in the form of the king of wealth deities, the Sugata Ögyen Dzambhala and revealed this Terma directly to His Holiness Kusum Lingpa. Through reliance upon Ögyen Dzambhala, we can restore the outer universe and the inner inhabitants back to the original state of resplendence and vitality, and can eventually wield the ultimate prosperity of sublime and ordinary spiritual accomplishments, leading all beings to the state of pure awakening. As practitioners of this precious Ögyen Dzambhala treasure, in the past few months we have stretched ourselves beyond our own humble capacity to complete the translation of the Ögyen Dzambhala treasure as revealed by H.H. Kusum Lingpa. Now it has been translated and codified under the direction of its principal custodian, the Venerable Lama Chödak Gyatso Nubpa. We were able to print this text in its totality and complete splendor in Tibetan, with complete English translation and transliteration. This was our way (or mode) of helping to flourish and preserve this extremely precious treasure. Please make a point to join us at the beginning of Saturday's empowerment as we present to His Holiness his first copy of: The Body Treasury of Vairochana The Prosperity Accomplishment Sadhana of Ögyen Dzambhala To Dispel the Degeneration of the Eon (New from Ari Bhöd publishing, and available for purchase at the event) VAJRAPANI EMPOWERMENT March 22, Saturday 4:00PM Suggested Donation $35.00 Members Donation$30.00 In this degenerate age, as a result of the collected karma of the sentient beings, the nature of the outer elements is changing. Due to this transition of the outer elements, the inner elements are also affected and have begun to shift. As a result of this karmic-based elemental shift, many unknown sicknesses and diseases are continually surfacing. Often, many of these sicknesses are arising from the negativities of the earthbound Nyen Spirits and the water bound Nagas. As such, many times people are not even able to accurately identify or diagnose the nature of their own
[FairfieldLife] Headaches - GABA - Theanine
Hi, Someone mentioned that a combination of GABA and Theanine help to alleviate headaches. Would you mind posting more information? Thanks, Gary
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is in control of our lives?
Hi Curtis, This was quite beautiful. Thank you. If you feel comfortable, I would love to hear more about how you came to embrace atheism. I feel an internal struggle between the idea of a personal God and that I am creating this God for comfort, out of fear, out of lonliness, specialness, etc. I love that you pointed out that this was not an intelectual journey for you. Rather this encompassed your heart and spirit as well. You have given me a lot to ponder. I have felt spiritual without the need for a God. I still feel very connected to other people, animals, nature. I always experience this with confusion. How can I feel this connection yet not believe in God? Don't I need a God to feel connected? I had a conversation a few months back with a good friend and my wife. The friend and I were sharing our feelings/thoughts on God, on having a purpose, etc. My lovely wife chimed in and said all of these self doubts are a result of our belief in a God. A God that has a plan for us (which we never seem to find), a God that has expectations of us (which we can never meet). She said her peace comes from not needing a God. Just being comfortable with herself. Period. Anyway, thanks for sparking my mind. Best, Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Marek that this discussion has brought up some cool insights. Thanks to Mr. T for going so deeply into his own perspective. I think where I differ with T is that he seems to believe that his experience of the was in a category beyond thinking. T I intuitively knew that here is no wrong that I can ever do, and I had a sense of universal love towards everybody and everything. I have had my share of revelations in this life and I understand how compelling they can feel. I don't doubt that this insight is useful to T, what I doubt is that it is of a qualitatively different character than my own insights. Here T sums up what he sees as my perspective: TCurtis is never tired to point out that he regards the same mystical experiences many of us share in a different way and strips them of any religious meaning they could have. In fact he tries to understand them rationally only, as I believe. Thus he places ratio[nality] highest, and I always understood this to mean a place where intellect is 'in control' I only disagree with this aspect of the characterization, that my insights are gained in this way: T: he tries to understand them rationallyonly, This is a common misunderstanding about how certain people come to atheism. By limiting their faculties to one aspect of our cognitive and intuitive processes. It makes dismissing the insight much easier if I am only using one aspect of our ability to understand and all the deists are using their whole heart and mind. The truth for me is that my journey into atheism was as complete a transformation and liberation as I have heard from anyone's posted experiences of becoming awakened. The sense of freedom and clarity it produced has effected every area of my life in a positive way. It was a much a total surrender to the experience of awakening as anyone's religious awakening, it involved all aspects of my being. I don't believe that people who view life from a theological perspective will evolve into atheism. I think some believers in God think that guys like me will eventually come to believe (in this or another life) again. Given enough evidence I surely could believe again, but frankly I am not holding my breath on this one. Just as most readers here are pretty sure that the Greek gods were made up by man in a creative literary fashion are unlikely to suddenly decide that in fact Zeus is real and must be appeased by rituals. It took a lot of work on myself to come to where I stand philosophically today. All aspects of my mind and heart were involved. I know that most of the poster's here have traveled just as challenging a road to come to their current POV on these matters and deserve mutual respect. I don't think that people who interpret their internal experiences as providing evidence for God are just not using their rational minds in a sort of arrogant atheist judgment. I know the appeals and values of theistic interpretations and am the first to admit that I don't have any ultimate reality figured out. I just know what is working for me. I assume that you are doing the same, using your whole being to come up with the most truthful personal perspective to ride on through our life. There are many ways to approach life. FFL is a great place to compare notes on what we have discovered along the way. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Michael, I have to say that I think the problem is, as you state, in your understanding
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bill Maher and Henry Rollins
Vaj, Thanks for the Henry Rollins/Marilyn Manson interview. Manson's discussion on the role of artist was quite inspiring. I think if any real significant change is ever going to happen, it will come through and from the artists. Peace, Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Maher, closing last night on Real Time (wow) Henry Rollins, intro and interview (also wow, plus interview with what America must NEVER lose [precious]) http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html
[FairfieldLife] Harold Pinter Nobel Speech
The Nobel Lecture: Art, Truth and Politics By Harold Pinter The Guardian UK Wednesday 07 December 2005 This is the text of the lecture to be given by Harold Pinter when he receives the 2005 Nobel prize for literature on Saturday. Forbidden by doctors from going to Stockholm to receive the £720,000 prize, the ailing playwright and poet has delivered his speech by video In 1958 I wrote the following: 'There are no hard distinctions between what is real and what is unreal, nor between what is true and what is false. A thing is not necessarily either true or false; it can be both true and false.' I believe that these assertions still make sense and do still apply to the exploration of reality through art. So as a writer I stand by them but as a citizen I cannot. As a citizen I must ask: What is true? What is false? Truth in drama is forever elusive. You never quite find it but the search for it is compulsive. The search is clearly what drives the endeavour. The search is your task. More often than not you stumble upon the truth in the dark, colliding with it or just glimpsing an image or a shape which seems to correspond to the truth, often without realising that you have done so. But the real truth is that there never is any such thing as one truth to be found in dramatic art. There are many. These truths challenge each other, recoil from each other, reflect each other, ignore each other, tease each other, are blind to each other. Sometimes you feel you have the truth of a moment in your hand, then it slips through your fingers and is lost. I have often been asked how my plays come about. I cannot say. Nor can I ever sum up my plays, except to say that this is what happened. That is what they said. That is what they did. Most of the plays are engendered by a line, a word or an image. The given word is often shortly followed by the image. I shall give two examples of two lines which came right out of the blue into my head, followed by an image, followed by me. The plays are The Homecoming and Old Times. The first line of The Homecoming is 'What have you done with the scissors?' The first line of Old Times is 'Dark.' In each case I had no further information. In the first case someone was obviously looking for a pair of scissors and was demanding their whereabouts of someone else he suspected had probably stolen them. But I somehow knew that the person addressed didn't give a damn about the scissors or about the questioner either, for that matter. 'Dark' I took to be a description of someone's hair, the hair of a woman, and was the answer to a question. In each case I found myself compelled to pursue the matter. This happened visually, a very slow fade, through shadow into light. I always start a play by calling the characters A, B and C. In the play that became The Homecoming I saw a man enter a stark room and ask his question of a younger man sitting on an ugly sofa reading a racing paper. I somehow suspected that A was a father and that B was his son, but I had no proof. This was however confirmed a short time later when B (later to become Lenny) says to A (later to become Max), 'Dad, do you mind if I change the subject? I want to ask you something. The dinner we had before, what was the name of it? What do you call it? Why don't you buy a dog? You're a dog cook. Honest. You think you're cooking for a lot of dogs.' So since B calls A 'Dad' it seemed to me reasonable to assume that they were father and son. A was also clearly the cook and his cooking did not seem to be held in high regard. Did this mean that there was no mother? I didn't know. But, as I told myself at the time, our beginnings never know our ends. 'Dark.' A large window. Evening sky. A man, A (later to become Deeley), and a woman, B (later to become Kate), sitting with drinks. 'Fat or thin?' the man asks. Who are they talking about? But I then see, standing at the window, a woman, C (later to become Anna), in another condition of light, her back to them, her hair dark. It's a strange moment, the moment of creating characters who up to that moment have had no existence. What follows is fitful, uncertain, even hallucinatory, although sometimes it can be an unstoppable avalanche. The author's position is an odd one. In a sense he is not welcomed by the characters. The characters resist him, they are not easy to live with, they are impossible to define. You certainly can't dictate to them. To a certain extent you play a never-ending game with them, cat and mouse, blind man's buff, hide and seek. But finally you find that you have people of flesh and blood on your hands, people with will and an individual sensibility of their own, made out of component parts you are unable to change, manipulate or distort. So language in art remains a highly ambiguous transaction, a quicksand, a trampoline, a frozen pool which might give way under you, the author, at any
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Man Who Sold the War
Hi Vaj, I read this article on Friday. It's absolutely frightening and stunning that he would be so open and non-chalant about his role in past wars and propaganda. If you'd like more info on the Rendon Group, check out PR Watch's site - www.prwatch.org I did a quick search for Rendon Group - http://www.prwatch.org/search/node/rendon - they send out a weekly newsletter, it's worth signing up for. If you go to The Rendon Group's website - www.rendon.com - you'll notice that they use the same world map as Project For a New American Century. Coincidence? Best, Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Man Who Sold the War Who is the Rendon Group? Well, you've probably only heard of them if you're a genuine weirdo, because they try to keep a low profile. That's because they're probably the world's greatest propaganda artists. While ostensibly 'private,' they make tens of millions of dollars on U.S. government contracts to sell wars. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/8798997 - Things are not as they seem, nor are they otherwise --a Buddhist Sutra Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Fair play? Video games influencing politics. Click and talk back! http://us.click.yahoo.com/u8TY5A/tzNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji
From what I understand, this is the Babaji that Yogananda speaks of in his autobiography. I visited a bunch of sites that claim that this is the Babaji. The site www.babaji.net has a lot of information as well as links to ther sites on Babaji. Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 18, 2005, at 9:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/18/05 8:10:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so ago. No he didn't! we played cards last night. He plays a mean game of fish. The guy you're talking about was not the Babji He was some other dude that other people labeled as Babji Will the real Babaji please stand up? No, seriously though, the people that practice Kriya yoga totally reject this fellow as being their Babaji. I have read their arguments and they seem to be pretty sound. The Fellow in Canada, Govindam or something like that , has written about this guy he claims is an imposter. It might be on his website. It was always my understanding that the Babaji was a light body emanation of the Nath mahasiddha, Goraknatha, i.e. the revealer of modern hatha-yoga and pranayama. That seems to be what the Yogananda lineage is saying. Now this is a rather common name. Are other people claiming a physical human is the same Babaji of Autobiography of a Yogi fame? I think people confuse the two all the time. I know I did because like most people my introduction to Babaji was through Autobiography of a Yogi and just assumed there was one Babaji. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- 1.2 million kids a year are victims of human trafficking. Stop slavery. http://us.click.yahoo.com/WpTY2A/izNLAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Babaji
Hello All, Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so ago. I had an interesting experience while watching this slide show. I'd love feedback. http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's experience and knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation? Thanks! Gary Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Babaji
Hi Jim, That was my exact reaction. Do you think he is/was legitimate or maybe the slide show is some form of trance? The site does have the deep trance name in it? I tend to believe that Babaji is/was a pretty powerful and loving being... Thanks! Gary --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gds444 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, Does nayone have any thoughts on Babaji? He passed ten years or so ago. I had an interesting experience while watching this slide show. I'd love feedback. http://www.deeptrancenow.com/babaji.htm The main site for info on Babji is www.babaji.net I'm always impressed by the breadth of people's experience and knowledge. I guess I'm looking for some validation? Thanks! Gary This slide show is a privilege to watch and listen to! Babaji is one of the most beautiful Beings I have seen; the essence of life revealed. Truly wonderful. Thank you for sharing this! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
