[FairfieldLife] Butt-Fucking-Babies
who's idea was concieved in the sick mind of the Turq and written in a post here on FFL caused many to leave. Later he tries to wriggle himself out of the net by making ridicelous claims that Dutch police is investigating or watching American and German posters on an American blog. The fact is that these posters didn't want to be on the same list as a pervert and left. It would be to insult the intelligence of others here to believe that they buy the idea that Dutch police have the time or interest of investigating foreign nationals when the sick poster is living in Holland, right in their midst. The Turq is lying about the so-called cop in the same way as he has been lying about lurking reporters and a host of other issues. But who's to blame him, he's living such a pityful excistence that he has to make things up to appear as ANYTHING else than the scumbag he is. As expected some posters here have tried to bury the fact that the Turq posted what he did, Sally in a sea of sceptisism and irony, Bhairitu in a sea of self aggrandisement, anartaxius in a sea of words and Michael Jackson in a sea of profanity. As expected. As was the fact that Rick Archer did nothing so far. After all it was his idea to create a forum for dumping on all things TMO and with most of the sane people gone he certainly got what he wanted. That he has allowed pedophiliac ideas to be expressed on this forum without taking any action will be his cross to carry. He'll probably make some joke about that sentence in a future comment. But sarcastic, threatening or ironic comments by anyone will not be read as I'm happily unsubscribing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick - Until Barry is removed - Goodbye
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Absolutely. Allowing the Turq to stay is a cowardice to the extreme. Sincerely hope you take this action Fleetwood:I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Rick, I am sorry, but a forum where anyone is allowed to suggest sexual violence AGAINST children, is not someplace I want to be. I am truly sorry things have degenerated to this point. I am local to the Yahoo corporation, and am considering a detailed notice to the Yahoo administrators, including screen names, of this current activity. Barry makes one excuse after another, about using this foul, sexually perverted, and unbalanced voice, and is clearly not well. This is no longer a healthy environment for anyone to participate in. I am all for differing opinions on here, but you have allowed one individual's mental illness to co-opt what could be a fun place to hang out, and I guess I am one of the casualties. See ya!! You know what? I'm outta here too. It's been nice chatting with you Jim, I hope we can talk again someplace without the stink.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apologies...
Who knows how many have unsubscribed. Rick Archer has not yet had the balls to booth the butt-fucking-babies member. Meanwhile we'll se what the Leiden Police choose to do as searching his computers for child porn is too late, he had all Thursday night to get rid of everything. Have the child he is looking after taken in for a medical examination perhaps.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
You just have to read his colourful language about abuse of small babies to see that Judy was right about the Turq all along, he is a sadistic pervert. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If I was living with him, I would politely, but firmly, ask him to leave, or keep a very sharp eye out - especially with children present. He refers to it, as, colorful language. Then proceeds to put the blame, for his very disturbing thoughts, on those who call him out. Not because we are cult members, but because we are normal, decent human beings. Barry is in denial about this, and that can be a warning sign, too. Judy used to caution about Barry's mental illness. I thought she was exaggerating - Now, I am not so sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anyone who uses such language is seriously disturbed. I just hope he doesn't harm that small child he is often photographed with. Someone oughta call the cops on him, and at least check his hard drive for kiddie porn. Let's just hope he's drunk. I thought I'd seen the worst of him on FFL but he's starting to show us more and more of what he's got inside of him.
[FairfieldLife] CROP CIRCLES DECODED
✦ CROP CIRCLES DECODED ✦- Positive Alien Messages, Truth of universe within crop designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY ✦ CROP CIRCLES DECODED ✦- Positive Ali... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY Thinking that we are alone is rather pathological. Crop circles are beautiful messages created through the high frequency resonating fields of electrom... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY Preview by Yahoo Decoded ? Well, sort of.. SALINAS CROP CIRCLE MESSAGE DECODED, SALINAS CROP CIRLE DESTROYED, DECODED CROP CIRCLE, UFO, OVNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw SALINAS CROP CIRCLE MESSAGE DECODED, S... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw http://megalegit.com/extraterrestrial/ SALINAS, Calif., Jan. 2 (UPI) -- A California crop circle with unknown origins was destroyed by the land owner tired o... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: CROP CIRCLES DECODED
Heard there was a big Crop circle in California with a logo in it, probably this one then... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The Salinas crop circle was a publicity stunt, by tech co Nvidia - Says they flew in crop circle makers from England. Crop circle: No, it wasn't aliens, it was marketers http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ Crop circle: No, it wasn't aliens, it was marketers http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ Sorry, dear readers, but the crop circle discovered last week etched in a farmer's barley field in Chualar, California, was not created by aliens. View on www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/06/tech/california-crop-circle-hoax/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ✦ CROP CIRCLES DECODED ✦- Positive Alien Messages, Truth of universe within crop designs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY ✦ CROP CIRCLES DECODED ✦- Positive Ali... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY Thinking that we are alone is rather pathological. Crop circles are beautiful messages created through the high frequency resonating fields of electrom... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0k7C8saTOY Preview by Yahoo Decoded ? Well, sort of.. SALINAS CROP CIRCLE MESSAGE DECODED, SALINAS CROP CIRLE DESTROYED, DECODED CROP CIRCLE, UFO, OVNI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw SALINAS CROP CIRCLE MESSAGE DECODED, S... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw http://megalegit.com/extraterrestrial/ SALINAS, Calif., Jan. 2 (UPI) -- A California crop circle with unknown origins was destroyed by the land owner tired o... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uIPxMjTMyw Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
Hopefully one of our lurkers in Holland alerts the police in Leiden about this pervert. They could have him in for questioning and check his computer. That would also alert his roommates. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, and he must be relieved not to read my posts, or so he says, because I happen to take this sort of thing, very seriously, and think he should be investigated, or at least have his PC checked out. I don't mind all his other insults, beyond their anti-social nature - there is no substance. But when someone begins associating sex with babies, that gets my attention, and not in a good way at all. There are few lines crossed here, but this is one of them. In real life, I wouldn't let that perv within 100 yards of a child. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : You just have to read his colourful language about abuse of small babies to see that Judy was right about the Turq all along, he is a sadistic pervert. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : If I was living with him, I would politely, but firmly, ask him to leave, or keep a very sharp eye out - especially with children present. He refers to it, as, colorful language. Then proceeds to put the blame, for his very disturbing thoughts, on those who call him out. Not because we are cult members, but because we are normal, decent human beings. Barry is in denial about this, and that can be a warning sign, too. Judy used to caution about Barry's mental illness. I thought she was exaggerating - Now, I am not so sure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Anyone who uses such language is seriously disturbed. I just hope he doesn't harm that small child he is often photographed with. Someone oughta call the cops on him, and at least check his hard drive for kiddie porn. Let's just hope he's drunk. I thought I'd seen the worst of him on FFL but he's starting to show us more and more of what he's got inside of him.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry, and his soon to be ex-roomies
I had exactly the same thought about lines crossed. I am even starting to really evaluate my participation here at FFL. Barry is a disturbed man who has really effected this forum. Because of him most useful discussions are either curtailed or participants simply stop posting here. And who can blame them? I am being very serious when I say the guy lives to pollute and he is very good at it. He simply should be kicked off, stopped, told to go away. He crosses lines of personal decency and respect repeatedly. He will the the death of this place. We have all of, what, 10 active posters here? I am not sure if I have ever used this word here but he is a real troll who seeks to pretty much corrupt anything of substance anyone says. The other trolls simply drive by and leave again leaving a steaming pile in their wake but Barry never goes away, he is a constant and he's perverted in very fundamental ways. Who wants to be around something like that day to day? Really, the toxicity of it is quite disturbing. Alex has banned others for smaller offences. It remains to be seen if Rick agrees and has the balls to done something about it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: SBS's Jiva and MMY
You missed the point and got your buttons pushed over a small and insignificant technicality uttered by someone who has not studied Sanskrit. Instead Hans spent his life teaching. You'd probably been better off and less easily offended had you done the same. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : SBS passed his jiva ... blah blah ... Such (p)suckophantic B.S.. What else could you expect from a Maharaj and a true-believing TM teacher but vacuous and esoteric prattle? This just demonstrates how ignorant both Hans and Maharaj Kanju are about the lineage of Shankara's Advaita - which MMY claimed founded his meditation practice. You can pass along your blessing but not your jiva/soul. The jiva/soul is the basis of samsara and exists only as the identification of sheer awareness with intellect-mind. This is why Patanjali gave principle importance to the sutra YS 3.35 defining discernment of the separation between awareness and intellect (purusha-buddhi viveka). The jiva is the causal source of the subtle body-mind. It does not exist as an entity but as a reflection of pure awareness. It functions as the illusion of doer-ship as it shines upon the sanskara-s and vasana-s inhabiting the causal sheath. Shakti does not mean energy (the capacity for work or activity). Rather, Shakti means power. Shakti can be transmitted to another person – a reflection cannot be transmitted to anything by anything else. Wake up and smell the stinkin left-handed fantasy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
Like the Trolls in Norse mythology who crack up if exposed to direct sunlight the Turq have been exposed to more light than he expected. He is probably busy cleaning up his harddisks as we speak. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : LOL - Looks like I really stepped in the dressing! Yes, the football and feasting. I will do my best to eat and drink too much today! As for Barry, like I said, there isn't a hole deep enough for him right now, so the best course, for him, is to get some help, and remove himself until he does, without any prodding, official or otherwise. This place was never meant to be his toilet, and if it takes the Dutch cops asking him a lot of uncomfortable questions, to get him out of here, and to seriously clean up his act, so be it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I keep forgetting about this black friday thing, here. Jesus. At least it is, technically, *after* Turkey Day, and so, the Xmas Season kickoff... I like Canada a lot - As much as I love the US tribe, Canada is always a kinder and gentler example, to me, of how to act as a country, though their much smaller population makes it all a bit easier to manage, too. I cannot recall ever having met a Canadian, who was not friendly, giving, personable, and trustworthy. I worked with several, for years, in various tech companies. Have only visited Ottowa, though - Loved It - Instant Europe. I don't know where it comes from, but my daughter is a big hockey fan - not quite religion, but it is her 'go to' game. Happy Thanksgiving, if yours is on the same day...or just good morning! Good morning, sir. No, Canadian Thanksgiving is always the first Monday in October. So today we just watch the Americans eat their way to lethargy and play their football and get ready to descend on the stores tomorrow in a shopping panic. One thing that has happened up here is that in an effort to reap some of the marketing benefits of Black Friday in America, Canada has also started their own Black Friday. I hate it. BTW, really good post about Barry and his sick postings here. I really, really wish he could either leave us alone or at least go get help. Maybe getting arrested would be a wakeup call, I don't know. But his toxicity here is beyond belief. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I mentioned about Thanksgiving, being a less commercial holiday than our others, and am curious if a similar holiday exists in the other countries represented here? In other words, one not tied to religion or patriotism, or a great person, but simply to give thanks for what we have. Canadian thanksgiving is pretty much the same but we don't have the big shopping thing the day after. Canadians tend to be a bit more understated than Americans in most things they do on a large scale - oh, except for the hockey thing. That is religion here and considered their own invention although I think some arguments exist that Holland invented the first hockey sticks and the idea of hitting objects around a frozen surface.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Curious, and lazy, inquiry about Thanksgiving in other countries
All the stories about the Trolls are age-old oral traditions. Funny thing is
that when these stories were collected and written down in the 1800's they were
coherent and often identical even between remote villages in different parts of
Scandinavia and Iceland.
I had an Icelandic friend who was rather bright who said he often saw and
communicated with Trolls who he claimed were not benign but rather dense and
could be easily tricked into doing things he wanted them to do.
But communication was always restricted to after sunset or before sunrise :-)
As wiki points out there are huge numbers of these Creatures but all being
biggish, dim-witted and potentially dangerous.
In Norse mythology, troll, like thurs, is a term applied to jötnar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6tnar, and are mentioned throughout the Old
Norse corpus. In Old Norse sources, trolls are said to dwell in isolated
mountains, rocks, and caves, sometimes live together (usually as
father-and-daughter or mother-and-son), and are rarely described as helpful or
friendly.[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-ORCHARD1997167-1 In
the Prose Edda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prose_Edda book Skáldskaparmál
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sk%C3%A1ldskaparm%C3%A1l, a scenario describing an
encounter between an unnamed troll woman and the 9th century skald
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skald Bragi Boddason
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bragi_Boddason is provided. According to the
section, once, late in the evening, Bragi was driving through a certain
forest when a troll woman aggressively asked him who he was, in the process
describing herself:
Bragi responds in turn, describing himself and his abilities as a skillful
skald http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skald, before the scenario ends.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-FAULKES-132-3
There is much confusion and overlap in the use of Old Norse terms jötunn,
troll, þurs and risi, which describe various beings. Lotte Motz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotte_Motz theorized that these were originally
four distinct classes of beings; lords of nature (jötunn), mythical magicians
(troll), hostile monsters (þurs) and heroic and courtly beings (risi)—the last
class being the youngest addition. Ármann Jakobsson calls this theory
unsupported by any convincing evidence.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-JAKOBSSON06-4 He has gone on to
study the Old Norse examples of the term troll and has concluded that in the
Middle Ages, the term is used to denote various beings such as a giant or
mountain-dweller, a witch, an abnormally strong or large or ugly person, an
evil spirit, a ghost, a blámaðr http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people, a
magical boar, a heathen demi-god, a demon, a brunnmigi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunnmigi or a berserk
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-JAKOBSSON08-5[clarification needed
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_clarify]
Scandinavian folklore Later, in Scandinavian folklore, trolls become defined
as a particular type of being.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-SIMEK335-6 Numerous tales about
trolls are recorded, in which they are frequently described as being extremely
old, very strong, but slow and dim-witted, and are at times described as
man-eaters and as turning to stone upon contact with sunlight.[7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-KVEDELAND-SEHMSDORF-301-313-7
However, trolls are also attested as looking much the same as human beings,
without any particularly hideous appearance about them, but where they differ
is in that they live far away from human habitation, and, unlike the rå and
näck—who are attested as solitary beings, trolls generally have some form of
social organization. Where they differ, Lindow adds, is that they are not
Christian, and those that encounter them do not know them. Therefore trolls
were in the end dangerous, regardless of how well they may get along with
Christian society, and trolls display a habit of bergtagning ('kidnapping';
literally mountain-taking) and overrunning a farm or estate.[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll#cite_note-LINDOW-1978-33-35-8
While noting that the etymology of the word troll remains uncertain, John
Lindow defines trolls in later Swedish folklore as nature beings and as
all-purpose otherworldly being[s], equivalent, for example, to fairies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairy in Anglo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-saxons-Celtic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts traditions and that they therefore appear
in various migratory legends
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Migratory_legendaction=editredlink=1
where collective nature-beings are called for. Lindow notes that trolls are
sometimes swapped out for cats and little people in the folklore record.[8]
[FairfieldLife] Re: SBS's Jiva and MMY
I'll wait for your clarification after you discuss it with the space bro's. That's why you missed the point; by insisting on keeping the discussion on a silly level you will never be able to understand what Hans said in that video. Yes, we agree that he should not have used the term jiva. Hope that makes you happy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] All Beings Enlightened
As pointed out by several posters here, only the Turq believes Fleetwood posted as enlightened dawn. The truth of the matter is that anyone claiming enlightenment from TM shakes the Turq's core belief : If I didn't make it no one else can. He choose to forget that his shot at it was half-hearted and lasted only a few years. When someone like Fleetwood comes along he is reminded of a wasted life and as we can see in almost every post here these days, becomes so angry he makes things up to the degree he believes in it. Instead of angry at Fleetwood and Richard reminding this poor fellow of his wasted life he should be grateful. Though 70 years old he could still pick up his mantra and make something useful out of his remaining years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/24/2014 4:21 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: The only sense that I can make of it is that Jim had a total mental breakdown during that period, and actually believed he *was* a woman. Maybe it's time for you to just keep your big pie hole shut about Jim. Almost everyone on this forum is pretty fed up with your phoney bullshit, Barry. Do I make myself clear? Over the years, I saw him levitate, as in sitting in lotus and just lifting up off the chair and hovering there in midair for minutes at a time, sometimes telling a joke the whole time. Or in the desert, he'd just step up off the sand and onto a staircase that wasn't there, and just climb up and down it for a while, several feet above the ground. - Barry Wright http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife/yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg12287.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
Buck, be aware of false prophets. When someone is talking Guru Dev this and Guru Dev that, their agenda could be to try to hurt Maharishi's Movement and ultimately try to stop people from meditating.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
I would not have written what I did if Maharishi had not himself warned that this exact situation would arise some time in the future. I've never for a moment believed that Paul Mason has the Movement's progress as one of his priorities. As for the rest of what you wrote it's mostly blabber, same stuff as your review of An Autobiography of A Yogi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : be aware of false prophets. When someone is talking Guru Dev this and Guru Dev that, their agenda could be to try to hurt Maharishi's Movement and ultimately try to stop people from meditating. I recognise it is good to prepare for foul weather (in good time) when the weather is fine and the sky is clear, too. Sure, sure. But to warn against rain in the middle of a desert seems out of place too. Since the fall of Troy there has been a saying against Greeks carrying gifts. I am not a Greek. Greekings, -- Tormod Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
Spending most of my time in Berlin it's always funny to read abot the Turqs hallucinations. His anger for having been exposed as someone not knowing anything about Tantra yet calling himself uncletantra seems to be unbounded. And just for the record. a) Benjamin Creme is not my teacher and b) there is nothing whatsoever contradictory between his writings and the teaching of Maharishi b) I can join Flying-halls in any facility owned by the Movement in any part of the world whenever I wish and spent two days in Seelisberg just a few weeks ago, Felix being an old friend of mine. I've said this several times before here, instead the Turq prefferrs to listen to his hallucinations brought about by old age and excessive consumption of alchohol. As for Tormod I have no reason to doubt his motifs. My comment was made on a general basis based on a quote from Maharishi. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Tormod, it may interest you to know that the person who has been giving you such a hard time while posting anonymously as Nablusos1008 also lives in Norway. He *claims* to have been a TM teacher and even claims to have spent some time on TM Purusha courses in the past. But it's important to remember that these are unsubstantiated claims because 1) he posts anonymously, so no one knows his name, 2) as far as we can tell he wouldn't be allowed anywhere near a real TM facility these days because of his association with and promotion of Off The Program teachers such as Benjamin Creme, and 3) he spends so much of his time being angry and lashing out at anyone who isn't him that it's doubtful he ever meditated a day in his life. Nabby (our nickname for him, since literally no one here takes him seriously) is regarded by most as a crank. He tends to write about his belief in aliens that he calls the Space Brothers and about the supposed savior Maitreya touted by his real teacher Benjamin Creme, who has been about to appear any day now for almost thirty years. Without ever appearing, of course. :-) If you're there on the ground in Norway and in touch with real TMers, ask around. Someone probably knows who this guy claiming to be a former TM teacher really is. Let us know when you find out. From: Tormod Kinnes tkinnes@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi RALLYING THROUGH SUSPICIONS Nablusoss1008 - if that is your real name . . . I would not have written what I did if Maharishi had not himself warned that this exact situation would arise some time in the future. I've never for a moment believed that Paul Mason has the Movement's progress as one of his priorities. As for the rest of what you wrote it's mostly blabber, same stuff as your review of An Autobiography of A Yogi. Every wild donkey has a right to be on its guard of predators and humans. You look much more like a clown to me, but . . . you may be on the side of Jesus. He not only suspected his family contained enemies who would kill him - and they tried to - but warned in public that a man's enemies will be the members of his own household. (Matthew 10:36). You are not of my household, thanks God! Go and suspect wisely and well on Biblical ground, you! But don't be rash. There is Buddha's great advice to investigate - going against dumb belief - a help to suspect well, try to live wisely and well, a candle in a dark, dark cave: Etha tumhe Kalama. Ma anussavena, ma paramparaya, ma itikiraya, ma pitasampadanena, ma takkahetu, ma nayahetu, ma akaraparivitakkena, nid ditthinijjhanakkhantiya, ma bhabbarupataya, ma samanro no garu ti. It says, in one translation: Do not accept anything on mere hearsay (ie, thinking that thus have we heard it for a long time). Do not accept anything by mere tradition (ie, thinking that it has been handed down thus through many generations). Do not accept anything on account of rumours (ie, by believing what others say without any investigation). Do not accept anything just because it accords with your scriptures. Do not accept anything by mere supposition. Do not accept anything by mere inference. Do not accept anything by merely considering the appearances. Do not accept anything merely because it agrees with your preconceived notions. Do not accept anything merely because it seems acceptable (ie, should be accepted). Do not accept anything thinking that the ascetic is respected by us (and that therefore it is right to accept his word.) But when you know for yourselves - these things are immoral, these things are blameworthy, these things are censured by the wise, these things, when performed and undertaken, conduce to ruin and sorrow - then reject them. When you know for yourselves - these things are moral, these things are blameless
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
Hello Tormod, you seem to be a reasonable fellow. Please note that my comment was not directed at you specifically but rather in the direction of Paul Mason based on a comment Maharishi made some years ago that in the future some will try to sow discontent and doubts by trying to convince people of how devoted they are to Guru Dev. Their ultimate motifs could be to weaken the practice of meditation amongst TM'ers. It's something to keep in mind, nothing to be overly concerned about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : Hei (Norwegian greeting), Thanks! I have no idea of Nabby's identity, and may not try to find out either. Now, there is one more thing - Maharishi did a lot to keep the TM movement rolling, and TM surely helps a lot. I am glad that much research has confirmed it. I have a lot to be grateful for - my life, too, I can tell. Loving greetings, -- Tormod Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
What's next, will the Turq warn newbees of Judy, Fleetwood, dr. Pete, Rory, Stanley, Richard and the host of other posters here who have pointed out that the Turq is hallucinating ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : No problemo, Tormod. I posted partly to warn you who you were dealing with in Nabby, but also to give *him* a bit of a panic because he's terrified people here will find out his real name. As for Richard Williams, what I said about him being...uh...overly fond of prairie dogs is not really true. At least not to the best of my knowledge. What I said about him being generally recognized as being one of the biggest trolls on the Internet IS true, however, so be warned. Interacting with him in any way will just prove to be a waste of your time. I posted to warn you because his pattern is to pounce on all newbies (who don't know his patterns) and try to get them to interact with him, so he can waste their time and energy. From: Tormod Kinnes tkinnes@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi Hei (Norwegian greeting), Thanks! I have no idea of Nabby's identity, and may not try to find out either. Now, there is one more thing - Maharishi did a lot to keep the TM movement rolling, and TM surely helps a lot. I am glad that much research has confirmed it. I have a lot to be grateful for - my life, too, I can tell. Loving greetings, -- Tormod Kinnes
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi - Eliminating Stress and Stabilizing Unbounded
Maharishi - Eliminating Stress and Stabilizing Unbounded Awareness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c Maharishi - Eliminating Stress and Stabilizing Unbounded... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c http://tm.org Maharishi describes the mechanics of eliminating stress and it's role stabilizing unbounded awareness in daily life. For more information on th... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahesh
As a follow up to Tormod's post. By Hans Bruncken Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maharishi Mahes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdoEduxgRsY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdoEduxgRsY Brahmananda Saraswati passes on his Jiva to Maha... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdoEduxgRsY A Story told by the Maharaja of Kanju Singh Deo in 1974 to Hans Bruncken. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdoEduxgRsY Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev's teachings and those of Maharishi
It's not odd. Even though many naturally see Maharishi as their guru because he was the one we interacted with for decades, he himself always reminded us from where the teaching came. He even said that Guru Dev is our Guru, not him. It's rather obvious that Guru Dev is the teacher for those who perhaps never met Maharishi. Rare footage of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in Los Angeles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA Rare footage of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in Los Angeles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA http://www.tm.org Rare footage of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi walking through a crowd of people to get to a lecture hall. Maharishi: Laughing Los Angeles has b... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb-LceeGeCA Preview by Yahoo Guru Dev Shankaracharya Brahmananda Saraswati जय गुरुदेव Jai Guru Deva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 Guru Dev Shankaracharya Brahmananda Saraswati जय गुर... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 Movie footage of Guru Dev, Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, believed to have been filmed in Lucknow, India, circa April 1952. Visible ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16wjc01ys0 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Odd thing - Although I am immeasurably indebted to Maharishi for bringing out the knowledge, to basically reverse the trends of time, as he so aptly put it, my devotion and the natural direction of my heart, always goes to SBS. On the one hand, overflowing gratitude to Maharishi, but the overflowing love always flows to Guru Dev. Not that I ever think twice about it. :-) Welcome Tormod, I am 1/8 Norwegian (paternal grandmother was 1/2), though have not yet visited there, in this lifetime. I was pleasantly surprised to read recently that Norway is the wealthiest country in the world - No wonder TM is so popular there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Hello Tormod, you seem to be a reasonable fellow. Please note that my comment was not directed at you specifically but rather in the direction of Paul Mason based on a comment Maharishi made some years ago that in the future some will try to sow discontent and doubts by trying to convince people of how devoted they are to Guru Dev. Their ultimate motifs could be to weaken the practice of meditation amongst TM'ers. It's something to keep in mind, nothing to be overly concerned about. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : Hei (Norwegian greeting), Thanks! I have no idea of Nabby's identity, and may not try to find out either. Now, there is one more thing - Maharishi did a lot to keep the TM movement rolling, and TM surely helps a lot. I am glad that much research has confirmed it. I have a lot to be grateful for - my life, too, I can tell. Loving greetings, -- Tormod Kinnes
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi - Eliminating Stress and Stabilizing Unbounded Awareness
Maharishi - Eliminating Stress and Stabilizing Unbounded Awareness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c Maharishi - Eliminating Stress and Stabilizing Unbounded... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c http://tm.org Maharishi describes the mechanics of eliminating stress and it's role stabilizing unbounded awareness in daily life. For more information on th... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhcFnchZ60c Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Ten Lessons on Filmmaking from David Lynch
David Lynch (Photo: Lucca Film Festival) Ten Lessons on Filmmaking from David Lynch | Filmmaker Magazine http://filmmakermagazine.com/88420-ten-lessons-on-filmmaking-from-david-lynch/#.VHY2G5UlE6Z http://filmmakermagazine.com/88420-ten-lessons-on-filmmaking-from-david-lynch/#.VHY2G5UlE6Z Ten Lessons on Filmmaking from David Lynch | Filmmak... http://filmmakermagazine.com/88420-ten-lessons-on-filmmaking-from-david-lynch/#.VHY2G5UlE6Z After 25 years, the wait is over for Twin Peaks fans. David Lynch and Mark Frost have announced a return to the mythical town coming in 2016 to Showtime. The View on filmmakermagazine.com http://filmmakermagazine.com/88420-ten-lessons-on-filmmaking-from-david-lynch/#.VHY2G5UlE6Z Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield and M. Effect
No, no Turq, you missed the point. YOU had the thoughts of butt fucking babies. Noone else has ever expressed their thoughts in this way on this forum before you lay open your mind for all to see.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Nov-14 00:15:11 UTC
Hilarious; from fantasizing about butt fucking babies to: I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. The Turq is coherent indeed :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/26/2014 10:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: My output is what it is because I am more coherent and a better thinker. HIS BODY TURNED GOLD . . . . . . he began to shrink, then grow to tremendous heights. He raised his arms and a shower of energy rushed down onto us while lines of power pushed up through my spine. His body turned gold, then it turned into a doorway. It became an absence. I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. I felt myself spinning, floating, turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - Uncle Tantra http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The_Last_Incarnation.htm http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Nov-14 00:15:11 UTC
The newbies and lurking reporters found out more about the Turq than they strictly needed to know. Hilarious; from fantasizing about butt fucking babies to: I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. The Turq is coherent indeed :-) ...turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - Uncle Tantra ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 11/26/2014 10:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: My output is what it is because I am more coherent and a better thinker. HIS BODY TURNED GOLD . . . . . . he began to shrink, then grow to tremendous heights. He raised his arms and a shower of energy rushed down onto us while lines of power pushed up through my spine. His body turned gold, then it turned into a doorway. It became an absence. I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. I felt myself spinning, floating, turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - Uncle Tantra http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The_Last_Incarnation.htm http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Wed 26-Nov-14 00:15:11 UTC
The newbies and lurking reporters found out more about the Turq than they wanted to know. Hilarious; from fantasizing about butt fucking babies to: I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. The Turq is coherent indeed :-) ...turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - Uncle Tantra ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote : On 11/26/2014 10:10 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: My output is what it is because I am more coherent and a better thinker. HIS BODY TURNED GOLD . . . . . . he began to shrink, then grow to tremendous heights. He raised his arms and a shower of energy rushed down onto us while lines of power pushed up through my spine. His body turned gold, then it turned into a doorway. It became an absence. I felt myself drawn into it and through it into other realities. I felt myself spinning, floating, turning in various directions, then expanding and contracting. - Uncle Tantra http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The_Last_Incarnation.htm http://www.ramalila.net/LetDrLenzsStudentsBooksTeach/Interview_The%20Last%20Incarnation.htm
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
If an enlightened person decides to join a study it's a good thing, he wasn't outed. 68 found by Fred Travis alone, and that's not counting those not in this study and all the people popping all over the globe these days. Perhaps 500 enlightened was achieved long ago :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Eh, Fred Travis recently said he's found (last I heard) 51 new enlightened subjects for a new study he's doing on the physiology of Cosmic Consciousness. That would be in addition to the 17 he studied in the first paper(s -physiological and psychological measures of the same groups of people were reported in two different papers). http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/brain-integration-progress-report.pdf http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/brain-integration-progress-report.pdf http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/eeg-of-enlightenment.pdf http://www.totalbrain.ch/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/eeg-of-enlightenment.pdf L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Okay, so now we're getting somewhere. I think this must be true. Only an enlightened person would recognize enlightenment in another. It takes one to know one. Who woulda thought.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
You mean the 30,000 Peruvian school kids who practice TM, according to _El Peruano_, the official Peruvian government newspaper, aren't practicing TM? Nice find :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : You mean the 30,000 Peruvian school kids who practice TM, according to _El Peruano_, the official Peruvian government newspaper, aren't practicing TM? Enseñan meditación a 30,000 escolares http://www.elperuano.com.pe/edicion/noticia-ensenan-meditacion-a-3-escolares-19707.aspx#.VHT http://www.elperuano.com.pe/edicion/noticia-ensenan-meditacion-a-3-escolares-19707.aspx#.VHT Enseñan meditación a 30,000 escolares http://www.elperuano.com.pe/edicion/noticia-ensenan-meditacion-a-3-escolares-19707.aspx#.VHT Son las tres de la tarde, suena el timbre y los alumnos de cuarto, quinto y sexto de primaria del colegio César Vallejo, en La Victoria, saben que es el momento de ... View on www.elperua... http://www.elperuano.com.pe/edicion/noticia-ensenan-meditacion-a-3-escolares-19707.aspx#.VHT Preview by Yahoo L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Bull - the TMO would be lucky to have 10,000 total even doing TM these days. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more Globally? I would think on the order of 10,000 or so enlightened souls, to date, given the efficiency of the technique. This glee that you and the other spiritual losers, evince, whenever you see a false enlightenment, is very telling. Get over the bile, and learn to live life in a joyful, expressive and successful way. Hiding behind TVs, word floods, bongs and beers doesn't cut it. Sickening to see your laziness, and lack of personal responsibility, regarding your own liberation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buddha taught for 45 years. Maharishi for 57 or so years. Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. So what is Maharishi's tally? I did once hear there was a group of people in Fairfield, IA that had had awakening experiences, and that they used to meet somewhere in the town to discuss things, but eventually disbanded, once it became clear there was nothing more to discuss. Apparently though it helped some accommodate to the happening as it was very disorienting for some to have an experience that they totally did not expect. By the way Nabby what does Nablusoss mean, if anything? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and stronger every year. But to the consternation of loosers like the Turq or MJ, the Movement will never point the finger at an Enlightened parading him like in a Circus and say; look here, he is enlightened, see what TM can do. This will never happen. For this reason, anyone living in freedom like Fleetwood who is willing to share his experiences is doing everyone a great favor and we should be thankful that he is willing to spend some of his time here. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight -Maharishi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So clearly the person Nabby is talking about on this forum does not have the same level of believability as Adyashanti. Heck, he doesn't have the same level of believability as Bill Cosby. So can you say, Nice straw man argument, Nabby? I think you can. Better luck next time... :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and stronger every year. But to the consternation of loosers like the Turq or MJ, the Movement will never point the finger at an Enlightened parading him like in a Circus and say; look here, he is enlightened, see what TM can do. This will never happen. For this reason, anyone living in freedom like Fleetwood who is willing to share his experiences is doing everyone a great favor and we should be thankful that he is willing to spend some of his time here. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight -Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death
Berlin| A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had proven by clinical experimentation, the existence of some form of life after death. This astonishing announcement is based on the conclusions of a study using a new type of medically supervised near-death experiences, that allow patients to be clinically dead for almost 20 minutes before being brought back to life. - See more at: German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf Berlin| A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had ... View on worldnewsdailyreport... http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death
We know the Turq is ignorant about Tantra even though he used to call himself uncletantra, but does he have to spell it out for all the lurking reporters to see :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Yeah, but is there CANNIBALISM after death? Given the way you were falling all over yourself the other day praising people who practice it, won't you feel let down if you find that there is life after death but that you can no longer chow down on your fellow man? :-) Also, Nabby, since you know it's gonna come up...do the Space Brothers you and Benny Creme go on about feel the same way about cannibalism that you do? Should we be concerned if (like the Twilight Zone episode) they come bearing a book called To Serve Man? :-) And when Maitreya (the returned Christ according to some of your own posts) shows up and has to feed the masses the way the original Christ did, is he going to accomplish this by saying, Yea verily I saw unto thee...if thou art hungry, turn and take a big honkin' bite out of the person on your left. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 11:35 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death Berlin| A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had proven by clinical experimentation, the existence of some form of life after death. This astonishing announcement is based on the conclusions of a study using a new type of medically supervised near-death experiences, that allow patients to be clinically dead for almost 20 minutes before being brought back to life. - See more at: German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf German Scientists Prove There is Life After Death http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf Berlin| A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had ... View on worldnewsdailyreport... http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/#sthash.y9EXFMpd.dpuf Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
The poor fellow has flipped out. Sri Raj Nablusoss, King of the TMO :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : My, what an objective stance. LOL ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Then where are the effects of these so-called enlightened people? According to your much vaunted Supreme Master Mahesh the Fraud Varma, the effect of a person living in enlightenment is profound. They supposedly radiate all this energy and sattva, supposedly uphold and enliven all the laws of nature and all that crap, yet Fairfield and all other TM communities are just communities like all the rest where people live and die and have problems like everyone else. Your assertion that there are many TM practitioners who are enlightened is an absurd fantasy. If there were such people the effect, according to Marshy would be fabulous and obvious. I will ask again, since you believe TM is so very fabulous, why don't you repudiate your UFO and Benjy Creme beliefs so the TMO will take you back and you become recertifed so you can teach this oh so supreme deal to the ignorant of the world? And if TM is so grand, why is it that the world has to have Maitreya come and straighten the world out? How come TM isn't gonna do it? Or are you still having the fantasy that Maitreya will tell everyone to do TM and it will be mandatory and he will appoint you as head of the Movement? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more I have, and am enlightened. Haven't you been reading what I write? This is for obvious reasons the most provocative claim ever posted on FFL. Though many start TM to have better sleep and improve health the majority of young people including the posters here who tried TM, the idea that enlightenment was easily available to anyone so convincingly put forward by Maharishi was the main reason to start TM. When due to lack of perserverance and self-control they failed they blame the teacher rather than analyzing their own shortcomings. The anger and resentment bordering on hate Fleetwood meets here is the same Adyashanti describes in Buddhist circles where anyone claiming to living the goal is labeled a fraud. The Buddha made 500 souls enlightened yet Buddhists today seems incapable of seeing that this is not only old stories but a reality also today. A friend of mine who goes for prolonged stays in Fairfield every year to do Programme in the dome reports that Fleetwood is far from the only person living the natural state of enlightenment. Quite the contrary, the experiences of higher states of consciousness in daily life is getting stronger and stronger every year. But to the consternation of loosers like the Turq or MJ, the Movement will never point the finger at an Enlightened parading him like in a Circus and say; look here, he is enlightened, see what TM can do. This will never happen. For this reason, anyone living in freedom like Fleetwood who is willing to share his experiences is doing everyone a great favor and we should be thankful that he is willing to spend some of his time here. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight -Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published
You can't take that guy serious, noone in his right mind read books by Paul Mason. He has a simple agenda; to make money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : Here are books rich in teachings of Guru Dev. Mason, Paul. 108 Discourses of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 1. Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009. -- From a book review by Michael Laughrin, Michael@... mailto:Michael@... 108 Discourses of Guru Dev by Paul Mason is, in my opinion, the most important and BEST spiritual book written in the last 100 years. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati was affectionately known as Guru Dev. Guru Dev was the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, the northernmost of the 4 seats of the Shankaracharyas established by Shankara between 1500 and 2000 years ago. This northernmost seat was vacant for many years until Guru Dev, who had been leading the life of a solitary saint living in the forest and mountains, finally agreed to take the seat. These little 'sermons' (none is longer than 4 pages) are exceedingly clear, uplifting, and to the point. This volume has the discourses in the original Hindi and also in English (thank God, as my Hindi is not what is used to be). Of all the modern spiritual books that I have read, this one cuts through the junk like a sword and reveals the diamond truth that is at the core of the Vedic teachings. Most of the important topics are mentioned, such as Enlightenment (moksha), meditation, karma, the caste system, possessions, obstacles on the Path, Maya, dharma, and many, many others. Mason, Paul. The Biography of Guru Dev: The Life and Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 2. Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009. Mason, Paul. Guru Dev as presented by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi: The Life and Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati, Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath (1941-53). Vol 3. Penzance, Cornwall: Premanand, 2009. Mason, Paul. Guru Dev: Life and Teachings of Shankaracharya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati. Compiled by Paul Mason. 2012. Online [◦Link] http://www.paulmason.info/gurudev/gurudev.htm Shriver, LB Trusty. The Sweet Teachings of the Blessed Sankaracarya Swami Brahmananda Saraswati.. Tr. and contr. Cynthia Ann Humes. Raleigh, NC: Lulu.com, 2013. —— Professor Humes supplied the annotations. Tiwari, Rameswar, compiler, LB Trusty Shriver, ed, and Cynthia Ann Humes, ed. Rocks Are Melting: The Everyday Teachings of Swami Brahmananda Saraswati Fairfield, IA: Clear River Press, 2000. —— Scanned hard-copy (online) manuscript, with annotations. May be tried as a companion to Paul Mason's 108 Discourses of Guru Dev. In addition, as mentioned in my first post, dedicated folks try to collect, preserve and have still more Guru Dev discourses translated. Funds would be good. Spreading the news too. A Yahoo group (see first post) is open so one may see what happens. For more information and sermons by the gurudev of the TM movement, there are Paul Mason's pages. -- T. Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say, Adyashanti, a person who *also* claims to be enlightened. LOTS of people seem to believe Adyashanti. He's got a whole *movement* full of people who follow him and buy his books and attend meetings with him because they believe he is enlightened. So clearly the person Nabby is talking about on this forum does not have the same level of believability as Adyashanti. Heck, he doesn't have the same level of believability as Bill Cosby. So can you say, Nice straw man argument, Nabby? I think you can. Better luck next time... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Maharishi's tally ? I would have gathered that you by now have seen by what I wrote that such a thing doesn't excist and never will. You will also have seen from what I have written earlier that Maharishi always spoke very highly and with great respect of Lord Buddha. It's simply the timing of mankind and ease of communication that made it is possible for him to say: It is said that Lord Buddha made 500 hundred enlightened. I think we will do better. I use Nablusoss as a reminder of the atrocities committed by Israel and it's allies using american built F-16's in the Palestinian town of Nablus. Thousands of civilians were slaughtered in that town during the second intifada even though the official number is only 522. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Buddha taught for 45 years. Maharishi for 57 or so years. Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. So what is Maharishi's tally? I did once hear there was a group of people in Fairfield, IA that had had awakening experiences, and that they used to meet somewhere in the town to discuss things, but eventually disbanded, once it became clear there was nothing more to discuss. Apparently though it helped some accommodate to the happening as it was very disorienting for some to have an experience that they totally did not expect. By the way Nabby what does Nablusoss mean, if anything? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Many Swami Brahmananda Saraswati discourses are waiting to be published
Take a hint from me: only a fool can't see that Masons agenda goes further than making Money. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tkinnes@... wrote : nablusoss1008, You can't take that guy serious, noone in his right mind read books by Paul Mason. He has a simple agenda; to make money. He, he, he. Take a hint from me: A fool says, I won't read great books if they are translated and published. Maharishi has also been edited, translated, and published by MUM and others, and not for free. The same goes for so many others. By the way, I have compared three translations of Guru Dev's 108 discourses. In my view Paul Mason's is the best, translationwise, but LB Shriver's has good annotations to go for it. And there is one more translation from India, for free on Paul Mason's Guru Dev page. When one has rid the mind of mean dumbness one is better qualified to study texts and compare. First study, then speak should hardly be ignored. -- T. Kinnes -- Tormod Kinnes
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new definition of Do less but accomplish more
Thanks. Funniest sentence I've read in a long while: Instead of becoming diamond merchants, they are all spinach salesmen, hugging The Waking State, as if it were solid gold. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Think of all the progress they could have made, all the stress dissolved, if they had simply done TM every time they felt like insulting me. Mind boggling. What was accomplished by insulting me? More wasted time, and that is all. Life goes on, and nobody is getting any younger. Instead of becoming diamond merchants, they are all spinach salesmen, hugging The Waking State, as if it were solid gold. Simply pathetic. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Rather crazy to have the spiritual neophytes like Barry, MJ and Taxesus, trying to verify enlightenment, from the waking state. Not even close to being possible. Better they get off their lazy butts, and achieve it themselves. Then they will have an opinion worth listening to. Can't stand people that are too lazy to do it themselves, but bitch about others' accomplishments - What a waste of time, and life. Jai Guru Dev. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Whereas the Movement never would out an enlightened individual, there are many souls popping these days. How do you verify another persons enlightenment ? You don't because you can't. Maharishi was asked this question and he answered that the person have to be enlightened himself to recognize enlightenment in the other. So all the beginners here at FFL; don't even try. It is said that Lord Buddha brought 500 people to enlightenment. I think we will do better His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Press conference to proclaim someone Enlightened ? What a joke. The TMO, thankfully, has more dignity than the Turq can ever imagine. They would never ever engage in such circus-activities as this troubled poster suggest. Although I didn't read most of what our esteemed colleague wrote below (I caught the gist) I had the same thought as Nabby. It is not the job or the business of the TMO to go around hanging signs around people's necks in order to verify their enlightenment. If there is such a thing then perhaps only one's spiritual teacher (if one had one at all) could possibly verify the state of his student's state of consciousness. And whose business is that anyway? Putting labels on people and dressing them up as poster people for the Movement because of their supposed state would be absurd and as far as I'm concerned it is a credit to them that they refrain from this. As Nabby said, What a joke. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : It seems to me that this issue can be easily resolved. If, in fact, the person Nabby is speaking about has attained enlightenment as the result of practicing the TM technique (and/or the TMSP), then one would think that the TM organization should want to be the first to proclaim the truth of this and inform the world of his momentous achievement. They should schedule a press conference and announce it to the whole world. However, this organization, while giving lectures for over 50 years now that proclaim loudly that they are selling the fastest path to enlightenment on the planet, has NEVER given a press conference and pointed to a single individual and said, This is an example of what we are selling. This person is enlightened, and they got that way by practicing the techniques we sell. So it's not exactly likely that they're going to hold such a press conference now. Just think about that 50+-year track record, and how often the TMO has produced someone enlightened. NEVER. NOT ONCE. The TM organization likes to talk about the millions of people who have learned TM. But somehow, *over the course of 50 years*, that same TM organization has NEVER produced *a single person* who it can point to publicly and say that this person has actually succeeded in attaining enlightenment by practicing the fastest path to it. NOT ONE. ZERO. BUPKUS. So I don't think we should hold our breath waiting for Bevan Morris or John Hagelin or King Tony Nader to come rushing in to support the person Nabby is speaking about and certify or authorize his supposed enlightenment. Not gonna happen. Therefore his claim is -- and shall remain -- just that, a claim. Furthermore, it's a claim that NO ONE believes. But that's NOT because of any generalized anger and resentment about the concept of enlightenment itself, or an equally generalized lack of belief that anyone, anywhere can attain it. And I can prove it. All you have to do is compare the person Nabby is talking about to, say,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Another test of who is the dumbest person on FFL
In Norse mythology the Trolls crack up and die if exposed to direct sunlight. That's what's happening to the Turq after Judy's, Fleetwoods and Richards' relentless exposure of the fellow as a liar and drunkard in denial of past and present. His attacks on posters here and Maharishi in particular is becoming more crazy every day spelling out loud for everyone to see that he is about to crack. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The FFL experience has backfired on him - He was going to cruise on here, all polyamortized and livin' the Ex-Pat Hipster Euro lifestyle, and don't even *ask* the dude about meditation, levitation, evolution, or movies - He Was HERE, To Show US, How It Is Done. But, it isn't working out. No Plan B, either. All his eggs in one basket, and the bottom fell out. So all he is left with, is himself, naked, on FFL. Got soap? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Barry considers himself a writer, and as such, I think he feels compelled to write something every day. He despises this site, and most of the people on it, but he has not place else to go. He lugs around his laptop from bar to bar, (or maybe dimension to dimension), telling us just how unworthy we are for him to participate here. A strange life indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Seriously?? This is one of your dumbest, most contrived posts, ever, and that is saying something... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Since so many seem to be vying for this position, I propose another test to help determine the winner. Uh...I mean, the ultimate loser. JohnR has already expressed his dismay at having been considered less dumb than Jim, so I graciously retracted my suggestion that JimF is dumber, and allowed JohnR to retain his title. BUT, in other threads, Nabby seems to be moving down the list towards the bottom fast in *his* attempt to be considered the Dumbest by coming out as a fan of cannibalism. You've got to admit that considering Indian vagrants who eat other people saints is pretty dumb, and tough to beat. That's even dumber than Waiting For Maitreya, which was Nabby's previous low mark in terms of Dumbnessitude. Therefore I suggest that if there needs to be a tie-breaker to decide whether JohnR or JimF are really the Dumbest, the title will go to whichever one of them piles on to the pro-cannibalism idea first and supports Nabby in his quest for the taste of human flesh. I don't see any of the rest of the bottom-dwellers (Steve, Share, Ann, Richard) as having the ability to think on their own enough to win the Who Will Consume Human Flesh First contest, so I'm going to give the edge to JimF in this contest. After all, he's *already* moved out into the boonies, where there are fewer people around to notice if some of them go missing at the same time Jim seems to be preparing a new buncha meat for the winter in his smokehouse. The only question seems to be whether Jimbo will share any of his Long Pig with Nabby, who, after all, suggested it first. If that happens, I suggest that we allow JimF and Nabby to share the title of Dumbest, with JohnR in second place.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Beyond
But they drink hard liquor and smoke bhong since these were supposedly used by Shiva, their patron god. Many do but that's mostly the drop outs, dressing the part but not taking the sadhana seriously. Does that remind you of anyone on this board ? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Nabs, I saw a similar documentary about sadhus in India. It's actually a very difficult life. They perform austerities and long fasts in order to be taken by their gurus as disciples. These austerities include living naked, smearing ash on their bodies and sleeping near cremation grounds. But they drink hard liquor and smoke bhong since these were supposedly used by Shiva, their patron god. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The ending part from the movie - Varanasi, India: Beyond that inspired me. I DO NOT OWN ANY COPYRIGHTS FOR THIS MOVIE This movie belongs ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!!
Are you still upset by being exposed for knowing nothing about Tantra ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Are you *still* upset about having been caught lying about how Marci Shimoff is the best-selling female author of non-fiction of all time? You DO know that you never admitted being wrong about that, right? Do liars flock together? Is that why you're trying to suck up to JohnR? :-) From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com faiafieldl...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! dear John, please do NOT apologize to turq until he apologizes to me for calling me a liar after HE lied about the Chicken Soup series starting in FF. thank you, Share From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 1:52 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Just checking, John. Is there something weird going on with your Jyotish chart that is preventing you from apologizing to me for calling me a liar, and then encouraging others to pile on and also call me one? Now that I've proved that you *were* dumb enough to suggest that a noted atheist was angry at God (a God he doesn't believe exists), doncha think you should admit having said it? Now that I've also proved that *YOU* were the person lying when you claimed it wasn't true and that I was lying about you having said it, doncha think you owe me an apology? Also, doncha think a word or two admonishing the others who piled on to your lie might be in order? If not, and you choose to remain silent, should we assume that you're failing to 'fess up and apologize because: 1. You believe in God, and that allows you to lie any time you feel like it, 2. You believe in Jyotish, so you can make up some excuse from the stars for why you can't act with integrity, 3. You're just a dick, or 4. All of the above. The lurking reporters and I await your response... :-) From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Ahem. See https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/398619 , which contains the following, in an exchange with Salyavin about Stephen Hawking: --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Do you think he's angry at God because he lost his ability to speak and walk? I'll wait for your apology... :-) From: jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2014 9:00 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: There IS someone on FFL dumber than JohnR !!! Hey, Barry You're completely clueless. I've never said anything close to the one you quoted in this thread. You're living in delusion, dude. Perhaps you can learn something from Dubya, as shown here: Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Frank Caliendo bush collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM lol. please rate and comment. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evIdgL8mJPM Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/20/2014 9:17 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: Dear Turq's secretary, please forward the following response (and his choice of puppy chow), to our common acquaintance: So, the bottom line is that being in an enlightened state is a subjective state that defies any material proof. Having said that, someone, anyone, please explain to me what Barry meant when he posted this message below, because now I'm getting confused and you don't want to confuse the willytex. I cannot expect anyone else to believe that these experiences had anything to do with enlightenment. And I don't. Also, I might interpret the experiences in my own way, but that doesn't mean that anyone else hearing them can't, and won't, interpret them differently. That they do so doesn't mean that they're attacking me, merely that they see things a different way, from another point of view. - TurquoiseB http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg96217.html Buck is not envious of me, nor is anyone else on this
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
His beer-belly is the only result of his tantra practise :-) Did you know he used to call himself uncle-tantra ? HaHa, what a clown. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Are you drunk again this morning,, Barry? I have noticed you are practically an alcoholic at this point. Nobody develops a beer belly like yours, without seriously hitting the sauce. Anyway, I'll leave you to your boozy and lame jokes, though you may want to have your liver checked. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise. Nabby's German. He probably feels that the Holocaust would have been an acceptable spiritual practice if his neighbors had just eaten the Jews after killing them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
It's an incredible transformation going on. The negative souls seems to have a harder time actually reincarnating whereas since 1977 the doors for more evolved souls are no wide open. These bright souls seems now to be everywhere, it's beautiful beyond words. It's also a caution to those now dwelling in the negative here on FFL; change immediately or face problems having another body in a long while. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future. We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for the better.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightenment and the younger generation
It's an incredible transformation going on. The negative souls seems to have a harder time actually reincarnating whereas since 1977 the doors for more evolved souls are now wide open. These bright souls seems now to be everywhere, it's beautiful beyond words. It's also a caution to those now dwelling in the negative here on FFL; change immediately or face problems having another body in a long while. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Very interesting this younger gen I spoke of earlier. Unlike those of us, who have watched the progression from our ignorance, to our enlightenment, occur in this lifetime, these young, bright souls have no such path to travel. They don't see enlightenment or ignorance, for they were born fully awakened to their essential nature, pure consciousness. There is no interest for them, in something already accomplished. To interact with them is to see the future. We are very much the transitional generation, bringing consciousness to the fore, as a mediator of experience, for the first time, in many thousands of years. We can watch the transition from an ignorant world, to an enlightened one, as those who have now incarnated, simply grow up, and change the world for the better.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
A fit Richard against a beer-bellied, delusional, old man ? It's pretty obvious who'd be beaten into a bloody pulp ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : The funny thing is, if any of us were to visit Leiden and find Barry, we would find a half-drunken chickenshit, disavowing all that he has said here. You see, Barry is a coward, hiding behind these forums. He wouldn't have the guts to push his agenda, face to face. I may prove that, one of these days. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/22/2014 3:29 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Well said, Sal. My bet is that if there were ever a FFL Reunion, in which we all got together physically to chat over a few beers, most people would manage to let bygones be bygones and get along. Heck, I'd even buy Judy a drink...not that she'd drink it, of course. :-) How much would you be willing to wager? But Richard? My bet is that after a few minutes people would notice he was missing from the festivities. A few people would wonder where he went, but not many, and only for a second or two. How much would you be willing to wager - do you have a PayPal account? After the event they'd find him out back in the alley, having been beaten into a bloody pulp by the people he's stalked and abused for so many years. So, it's all about Richard and not about your cognitive dissonance.Go figure. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Richard, I'm really sorry that turq has been so mean to you, and for so many years. You seem like a really nice person to me so I don't understand his behavior at all. But I'm very glad you're still here. I think it's more relevant to try and explain Willytex's behaviour and why he's irritating enough to drive people to distraction. Just try simply not having an opinion the same as his and you'll get endless tedious trolling, and I mean endless. I can't believe you haven't noticed it. If it wasn't for the ability to scan posts without opening them there wouldn't be anyone here because he's like a little dog snapping at your heels. On and on and on. I suspect that's his plan, a sort of attempt at denial of service. If you ever do try and engage him on his opinions all you get is some well practised non-committal slogans and a few irrelevant links to wikipedia that he either doesn't understand himself or can't be bothered to think about it. After two post he goes straight back to abuse. Years and years and years he's been doing it, what he gets out of logging on here everyday is anyone's guess. He says he's proud of his internet legacy, but why take part in a discussion board if you aren't going to discuss anything? I think he just likes spreading shit around. This is why nobody bothers talking to him. Go figure. Same with Steve, he replied to a post of mine yesterday saying that it looked boring and he wasn't going to read it! What the fuck? Tell me Share, is there a point to it that you can see? I'm at a loss. If I see something that doesn't interest me I just skip to the next one, why make a point about it. Every time. Every day. Barry, on the other hand brings a lot to the place and isn't just a one trick pony with nothing to say. You may not agree with what he says but it is a discussion board and not a facebook page, we all have the choice to respond and alternatives with how we spend out time if we'd rather not. It actually fascinates me that we all come back day after day. Ugh, the rain has begun. Supposedly will turn to ice overnight. So glad I've got brand new tires. From: 'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 9:34 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... On 11/21/2014 7:14 AM, fleetwood_macncheese wrote: It really isn't ganging up, Share, anymore than everyone laughing at the same joke at a comedy club, is ganging up, on the subject of that joke. Think about it. Yes, there is something that bothers you here, but you haven't got it yet. For the record, this is payback for all the shit he has given me for the past ten years. The tables are turned now, his turn to cry. The guy has been a shit-heel as long as I've been around the internet - that's his game. Frankly, I don't care what he thinks or says - he's never accomplished a damn thing, so far as I can tell. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Hey anybody! Does this qualify as hate mongering yet? At what point does a statement cross the line between an ill-conceived piece of garbage opinion and racism/bigotry and libel? I'd seriously like to know. And this is the guy who just finished berating JR for an apology. Believe me, the Turq will have his reward soon enough :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do read the triology about Vimalanda, Aghora by Robert Svoboda, readily available at Amazon, before you work yourself into an even greater mess by writing about stuff you have no knowledge whatsoever. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Do you have any scientific evidence to back up your claim that tantrics have a shorter life-span than others ? Erm, I didn't say that tantrics have a shorter life span than others. What I said was that cannibalism carries the risk of a lot of communicable brain diseases like CJD also known as mad cow disease. It's seriously best avoided even if it's only your health you care about. I think my instinctive revulsion is shared by so much of humanity that I wonder about the mental health of those who feel they can justify it on any grounds these days. Or maybe it's just the way society grew and we decided to respect the dead rather than make a meal out of them? I suspect the dangers become obvious like the dangers of incest do and it became a social taboo that way and very early on in society. Is India that different? Joke: Two cannibals meet in a bar and one says My wife made a lovely casserole last night. God I'm going to miss her ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! Vimalananda used to live in cementaries and boil the brain of dead people he found and drink it. Very purposefully and revolting only to small-minded people. Do read the triology about him, Aghora by Robert Svoboda. Perhaps it would broaden your vision. It's not about broadness of vision it's about communicable diseases, of which there are many if you eat human flesh. It's one of the reasons the vast majority of us don't, we've learned not to and it's a strong taboo because of it. If he thought that drinking brains made him smarter he's no better than the other superstitious ingnorami who thought eating someone's heart made you braver. I see where the delusion comes from but it doesn't work - except maybe psychologically - and then the mad cow disease kicks in and you rapidly start regretting it. http://www.amazon.com/Aghora-III-Dr-Robert-Svoboda/dp/0914732374/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8qid=1416650337sr=8-6keywords=vimalananda ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-) Cannibalism, lovely. How enlightened of them! I'm not sure what the word tapas actually means but I'm going to assume it involves not minding contracting all the serious brain diseases that can result from eating human flesh. Natural selection I call it. And it's one of the reasons the rest of humanity don't eat their dead (apart from the more obvious ones) the cultures that did take up the revolting practise died out. But I'm interested to hear anyone justify it as some sort of spiritual practise.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A complete list of Barry Wright's supporters on Fairfieldlife
I don't know about mentally confused, but a Grumpy Old Man for sure. Old age can certainly take it's toll particularily if one is not exposing the system to transcending and didn't have the guts to stick to a spiritual path. Makes way for a lot of stale bitterness.
[FairfieldLife] Patti Smith and David Lynch discuss Pussy Riot in BBC Newsnight interview - watch
Patti Smith and David Lynch discuss Pussy Riot in BBC Newsnight interview - watch http://www.nme.com/news/patti-smith/81238 http://www.nme.com/news/patti-smith/81238 Patti Smith and David Lynch discuss Pussy Riot in BBC... http://www.nme.com/news/patti-smith/81238 The pair also talk 'Twin Peaks' and 'Blue Velvet' View on www.nme.com http://www.nme.com/news/patti-smith/81238 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands
Fear not, a brand new 4 storey beautiful Vastu building for this purpose has just been completed in Vlodrop. All texts and videos goes in there. Pic coming soon. Salyavin, Son for as intellectually negative as you seem want to be scholarship loves this kind of material in collections safe-kept, accessioned, and archived for use in later research as to what was going on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Salyavin, Son for as intellectually negative as you seem want to be scholarship loves this kind of material in collections safe-kept, accessioned, and archived for use in later research as to what was going on. Like is going on now with the study of primary documents of Mormonism and Mormons. Or Yogananda's movement. Vivekananda. Emerson and Thoreau. It becomes extremely interesting as social science study in to the progression of human nature. Academically it is important to save the source material now for later use in scholarship while it is together whole and before it gets parted out or edited. -Buck in the Dome Oh I see! They're creating a sociological study of outrageous belief systems, I can understand that. I forwarded John Hagelin's last yagya scam video to a few knowledgeable people and they thought it was hilarious. Somebody should definitely be cataloguing this stuff so a study could be done into how abuses of scientific principles are passed off as justification for religious beliefs and, most importantly, screwing donations out of the faithful. I mean it most sincerely. The people should be warned. Can the new TMO since the passing away of Maharishi afford ($) to keep the archives of Maharishi in Vlodrop? It might be better to place them in a public institution, like a special collection at Harvard or Oxford libraries or some place like that for safe-keeping for future generations. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck LEnglish5@... wrote : In FFL #405213Re: TM Takes a Hit in the Netherlands Salyavin808 responds: Harvard or Oxford? What would they want with it there? Unless the boiler needs a bit of fuel. I suspect you are over-valuing the objective quality of the material. I think the preservation of beloved religious texts is up to the devotees of the groups concerned. It's shame that Marshy didn't follow Elron's footsteps and tax everyone 20% of their wages like in $cientology as the TMO would have enough money for a nice little library by now. All the publications the UK TMO ever made are in dusty boxes in the loft in Skelmersdale. I know because I put them there. There doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for public display. I'm sure Maharishi would have said we should carry the knowledge inside us and demonstrate it with our glowing and enlightened persona's. To that end, I'm quitting work early and going down the pub. Harvard or Oxford? What would they want with it there? Unless the boiler needs a bit of fuel. I suspect you are over-valuing the objective quality of the material. I think the preservation of beloved religious texts is up to the devotees of the groups concerned. It's shame that Marshy didn't follow Elron's footsteps and tax everyone 20% of their wages like in $cientology as the TMO would have enough money for a nice little library by now. All the publications the UK TMO ever made are in dusty boxes in the loft in Skelmersdale. I know because I put them there. There doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for public display. I'm sure Maharishi would have said we should carry the knowledge inside us and demonstrate it with our glowing and enlightened persona's. To that end, I'm quitting work early and going down the pub.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have...
Fleetwoods observation of the Turq as a smallminded, sadistic and creepy looser is easy to applaud. The fact that the Turq is continously lying about posters here year after year points to this fact. He seems desperate to cover the fact that he is failure in any spiritual practise he started and not realizing how easy he is to read. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : No cycle, here at all, Share. I am not attacking Barry, either. I am stating the truth about him. If it appears as an attack, he has only himself to blame. I share a lot more than my observations about Barry, on here, too, as you well know. I have a full life, and as I said to Ann, if I have to raise my voice sometimes, to prevent Barry from peeing on the floor, that is the cost of the discourse I enjoy here. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : But Fleetwood, imo it's possible to support the person being attacked without also attacking the attacker. Attacking the attacker just keeps that cycle going. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... Besides, after all this meditating people are supposed to be line on air but for some reason they get real sensitive. Is this proof that it isn't working? Somewhat disingenuous, don't you think, hanging the reaction to Barry's boorish and insulting behavior, on the sensitivity of meditators? Perhaps he resembles people you know, and hence no big deal. I find him sadistic, small minded, and kind of creepy. He gets exactly what he wants on here. As Edg put so succinctly, Barry is trolling so that others can expose his brokenness. Why that should be a source of amusement to anybody, is beyond me. I also watch him go after people I like on this forum, viciously and disrespectfully, who have done nothing more than offer an opinion, counter to that of his. A real shit, in my book. Anyone who finds this behavior witty, inventive, enlightened, or clever, needs another look in the mirror. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve, I don't mind when people confront turq one on one. But I really don't like it when the piling on and ganging up happens. Something about that seems very unhealthy to me, mainly for the people doing it. Don't worry about it Share, it's their time they waste and Barry is probably chuckling to himself over his cappucino. I kn ow him well enough to know he loves a good tease! Besides, after all this meditating people are supposed to be line on air but for some reason they get real sensitive. Is this proof that it isn't working? Steve has lost the plot completely recently and makes no effort to think about what he writes, maybe he's having trouble at home and needs to escape to a world where he can dump on someone else? I'm just speculating because if my time here is ever reduced to simply gainsaying other people I'd realise it wasn't working and be off to the beach! From: steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... A good question Share. Here's the short answer. There is a time for compassion to be shown, and a time to address BS head on. I am bothered by the continual mis-perceptions Barry throws out here, and feel compelled to address them. Pretty much as simple as that. That, and the fact that I think he is mean person, with no self awareness in that regard. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Steve and Fleetwood, if you really think this way, then why not show some compassion? From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 6:52 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Good article by someone with more patience for theists than I have... My conclusion too, Steve. He sounds very disturbed, in the paragraph below. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : or possibly that something is seriously broken in your life. I don't think I'd discount that possibility. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : One of the reasons I speak in such a derogatory way about God-believers here is that I figure after centuries of them putting down non-believers all the time (not to mention killing them, burning them at the stake, etc.) they should get a taste of their own medicine. That, and the fact that I really DO
[FairfieldLife] Beyond
The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The Essence of LIFE in 2 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk The ending part from the movie - Varanasi, India: Beyond that inspired me. I DO NOT OWN ANY COPYRIGHTS FOR THIS MOVIE This movie belongs ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D72NvkxlRGk Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Beyond
Glad you liked it. Interesting fellows. I met many of these guys eating human flesh and doing some heavy duty tapas when I was in Varanasi. The rest of the movie is there also. Enjoy :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Thanks. It's because the world is transforming so fast most old people are not able to adjust, and most posters here are just that; old. Even the idea that Maitreya is in the world makes the Buddhist's go bananas since they believe He will not incarnate in another 330.000 years from now. It's all over; this clinging to stale, outdated, old ideas. As expected really since their minds are no longer exposed to infinity. The future is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Geiger counters measure but the crudest harmful radiation. When our communication with the Space Brothers goes to the next step it will be seen that their greatest contribution to this planet was that they saved our lives by neutralized extremely dangerous radiation. A work that has been, and continues to be, in co-operation with the Hierarchy of Masters of which Maitreya is the most advanced and Guru Dev, Mary and Jesus from Nasareth prominent members. Nabby, I don't know why people harangue on you for your beliefs. I love them. They are fascinating and they are incredible and I mean this in the most positive of ways. Keep on being who you are and following your North Star, wherever it may take you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gotta admit it...
Share, there is no need to pay any attention to the Turq. His thinking is stuck in an age where banging the bells, some sing-song and thinking of compassion was supposed give you freedom. He is lost in the past, fortunately all that is about to go and a new civilization is on the rise. The future of mankind is bright, and that is our delight. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : LOL! Really, turq?! You're calling someone a plagiarist because he quotes wikipedia?! Get a grip, Grandpa! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gotta admit it... I'd much rather be a Grumpy Old Man than someone with so little intelligence and discrimination that she's become a groupie to a serial liar and plagiarist. From: Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Gotta admit it... Really, turq?? Sharing your inner GOM (Grumpy Old Man) with us so early in the morning?! From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ...There finally is something even creepier than Share gushing over things that Richard Williams posts on FFL because she's too gullible to realize that at least half are lies and the rest are cribbed from Wikipedia.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
This fellow obviously met a lot of resentment from Buddhists stuck in the sing-song-have-compassion-bang-those-bells-till-you-puke tradition. The same sort of resentment, even hate, that Fleetwood meets on this forum. Not that it seems to bother him much :-) Great quote ! 'I think it's unfortunate that a person can spend hour after hour, day after day, year after year, dedicating his life to enlightenment, and yet the very notion that anybody attains enlightenment is a taboo. We're all going after this; but God forbid somebody says they've realized it. We don't believe them, we're cynical, we have doubt; we go immediately into a semi- (or overt) attack mode. To me, it highlights the fact that people are chasing an awakening they don't believe could happen to them. That's a barrier, and the biggest one... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, the thing goes full circle, from chasing the dream of enlightenment, to gaining the reality of enlightenment (and losing the former dream of enlightenment), and finally, having the enlightenment recreate the dream, in reality. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : yes, cognitive dissonance once we realize that the enlightened state does have all the outer attributes we associate with it. I have cognitive dissonance along these lines myself that I am working through, or in the discover phase of. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Barry, The Cave Boy from Leiden, raised by wolves, was the first image that came up - lol seriously, people get locked into all the past pictures of enlightened teachers, and even Maharishi was not exactly a slacks and polo type of guy. And the religions have fucked up the image for good, insisting that solely doing good works (according to them), keeping in line, reading surface prayers, and mouthing platitudes about helping the poor and being nice, will lead to our salvation. So it is a lot of context for us to overcome, to truly gain our freedom, our inner silence, and continue to be ourselves - even though that is the simple end result of enlightenment - fully being ourselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : that is funny Jim. a very simple, yet relevant observation. yes, Barry has embarked on the path that has enlightenment as it's conclusion, but just can't handle that someone may have reached the goal. maybe along the lines, if I can't have it, no one can. really, a childish attitude, indicating one might be stuck in a early stage of development. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : 'I think it's unfortunate that a person can spend hour after hour, day after day, year after year, dedicating his life to enlightenment, and yet the very notion that anybody attains enlightenment is a taboo. We're all going after this; but God forbid somebody says they've realized it. We don't believe them, we're cynical, we have doubt; we go immediately into a semi- (or overt) attack mode. To me, it highlights the fact that people are chasing an awakening they don't believe could happen to them. That's a barrier, and the biggest one... An excellent insight. I enjoy Adyashanti's clarity. He also comes from a town in the Bay Area that I am very familiar with, so it gives me an insight into his temperament. This is exactly why I talk about enlightenment - It is possible, and even likely, to realize enlightenment, using the TM and TMSP techniques, and not just by saintly folks, but by ordinary schlubs, like me! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : The Zen trained Adyashanti had this to say about 'enlightenment success': 'When I looked around at the Buddhist tradition, I realized that the success rate was terrible. People were in it for enlightenment, but very few were actually getting enlightened. If this were a business, I thought, we'd be bankrupt.' 'I think it's unfortunate that a person can spend hour after hour, day after day, year after year, dedicating his life to enlightenment, and yet the very notion that anybody attains enlightenment is a taboo. We're all going after this; but God forbid somebody says they've realized it. We don't believe them, we're cynical, we have doubt; we go immediately into a semi- (or overt) attack mode. To me, it highlights the fact that people are chasing an awakening they don't believe could happen to them. That's a barrier, and the biggest one... And when people have breakthroughs and talk about them in public, awakening loses its mystique. Everyone else can see that it's not just special people who have deep awakenings, it's their neighbor or their best friend.' The TMO seemed to do pretty well for a while selling something nobody seems to have found. Perhaps one reason for this is the ideas we have in our heads about
[FairfieldLife] Festive Winter Celebration
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Festive Winter Celebration
Why not, but probably not indoors. The Movement and it's people has come a long way since you had to stay in sheds without heating and meeting the fundamentalists. It's much, much more fluid and accepting today :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Absurd Rumor
Indeed. And it was put forward by the infamous Buddhist that used to post here, Vaj. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/17/2014 10:11 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: I think I asked this once a long time ago, but I am posting this again if so: What was the most absurd TM rumor you ever heard? The most absurd rumor I ever heard was on an internet discussion group. The rumor posted claimed that the Maharishi had murdered his master SBS, by poisoning his food in a conspiracy with the Jyotirmath Ashram cook. The motive apparently was for the Mahesh Yogi to get SBS's special ring and ruby-encrusted yantra. And, with a forged will, the cook would get the Shankaracharya highchair at the Upper Kashi. As far as rumors go, it is going to be difficult to top this one. This would be something that was not part of the official TM cannon, nor any of the majorly accepted ones (like Marshy's enlightened, TM brings enlightenment or yogic flying brings world peace) I am talking about the boundless rumors we all heard on courses and in TM facilities and from TM old timers. Mine would I think have to be the idea that having animals around when you are meditating drains your energy. That one supposedly came from Marshy himself but who knows. Other than that it would be Claire Baxter's classic never meditate with your hair wet because the stress you release comes out of your crown chakra, and if your hair is wet the stress slides down your hair and goes into your lower spine. I include that one second, just because I only heard it from that one person and the animal energy drain was one I heard a lot from lots of different people. How bout yours? Most absurd TM rumor?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Must agree With the Turq here, compassion is much overrated. The Buddhist's talk of compassion simply because they don't have much else to talk about. But our Space Brothers shows compassion by their actions to help and try prevent this planet from self-destruction. Amongst other things there is strong suggestions that they neutralize much of the nuclear radiaton produced by nuclear plants not measurable by our crude instruments. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America. Perry has two methods of battling jet lag. “One, my meditation, which I use all over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says. Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with ne... http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 KATY Perry has the knees of fast bowler. About half an hour before she takes the stage for her Prismatic concert, an assistant brings in a heat pack that she ... View on www.news.com.au http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
How do you know that global warming is the biggest threat ? According to some methaphysists we would all be dead long ago if our Space Brothers didn't initiate their programmes to neutralize nuclear radiation here right after WWII. Radiation our instruments are far to crude to register. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Must agree With the Turq here, compassion is much overrated. The Buddhist's talk of compassion simply because they don't have much else to talk about. LOL, there's another way of looking at it! But our Space Brothers shows compassion by their actions to help and try prevent this planet from self-destruction. Amongst other things there is strong suggestions that they neutralize much of the nuclear radiaton produced by nuclear plants not measurable by our crude instruments. Can they do something about global warming then? I don't want to sound alarmist but that's the biggest threat we have, much worse than nuclear power. It isn't going to go away, without magic we have only one solution. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I admit that when I imagine more developed beings, I automatically assume that would include being ultra compassionate. I guess the tricky part is, how would ultra compassion be expressed? Opinions vary about what an ultra-technological society would be like. Some think that they would be extremely friendly because crossing interstellar space is such a big undertaking that, surely, any species would have to have conquered any bad attitudes amongst themselves long ago and pulled together. It sounds to me as if Share is suffering under Yet Another Unfounded Assumption. By most standards, homo sapiens could be considered the most developed species on planet Earth, but they've been the cause of the extinction of (by some estimates) 99% of the other species that ever developed here. One could hardly call that an indication of compassion. It also appears likely that humans will eradicate the remaining 1% in the next 20-50 years, also hardly an indicator of compassion. Finally, since Share seems to equate Maharishi and his teachings with being more developed, I challenge her to find even one instance of the *word* compassion in either The Science of Being or Maharishi's commentary on the Bhagavad-Gita. Hint: According to Amazon's Look Inside This Book search feature, she can't do it. Maharishi spent over 50 years without ever *using* the word compassion, much less teaching it. And I think anyone who spent any time with him knows how little compassion he actually demonstrated in his life. Another way of looking at it is that intelligence implies belligerence. Maybe it's only possible to evolve to this space-faring level if you've had the environmental and social hardships to drive you towards mastering the environment and defeating any enemies. Bad attitude built in. It is certainly likely, given what we've seen in the species that have appeared on Earth, that any species arising elsewhere and being able to come here would be pretty much the very definition of belligerent. You don't get to be the ruling species on your home planet without defeating most of the other species. Take that 'tude into space, and they'd just be lookin' for the next species to annihilate, not lookin' for friends. Both are projections from our state of being of course, but I tend towards the friendly interpretation. Particularly concerning our Wow! signal. Assuming that it was an alien broadcast, they must be curious to be sending messages and curiosity would mean they are philosophical. And friendly too because if you want to steal a planet's resources or suck the occupants brains out you wouldn't call them up and say Hi! Unless the message reads Start running - you've got 30 years before we get there. Maybe we'd better work on decoding it before it's too late I think they finally deciphered the title of the Wow! signal and found that it is To Serve Man. :-) It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI It's a Cookbook! Ahah... I get it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYnI Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
Yes, and she is a role model for millions of youths all over the world. Apparently she speaks of TM whenever she can and initiations is jumping wherever she goes. Like you said, to be able to do what she does and stay sane is quite an accomplishement. The Turq and MJ obviously being born with much heavier baggage one imagines what TM could do for them. Reaching out even to these fellows Maharishi showed real, practical compassion ! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I've heard very little of her music, nonetheless, she looks like a very self-aware person, very clear and focused - probably took to TM, like a duck to water. I cannot imagine the grueling schedule, and the constant attention of millions of fans, while continuing to produce and perform, and at the same time remain aware of who you are, and continue an every day life, of getting fed, and rested, and loved. Not very many can do that, and survive, much less thrive. Must be an unbelievable ride! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Katy Perry is now the biggest selling digital singles artist in America. Perry has two methods of battling jet lag. “One, my meditation, which I use all over the world; transcendental meditation really works because it’s a very deep rest and relaxation. And then movies,” she says. Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with new fitness campaign http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Katy Perry: Beating Jet lag and Australia’s help with ne... http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 KATY Perry has the knees of fast bowler. About half an hour before she takes the stage for her Prismatic concert, an assistant brings in a heat pack that she ... View on www.news.com.au http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/katy-perry-shares-her-secrets-for-beating-jet-lag-and-why-australia-will-help-her-new-fitness-campaign/story-e6frfn09-1227121491671 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
capitalism is our greatest threat. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
capitalism is our greatest threat. Don't worry about it, Maharishi's Programmes will take care of it. Now that communism is gone the next to go is capitalism - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 1989
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. The Turq's real problem is so lama-brainwashed that he actually believes that compassion will solve the problems of this planet. Nuclear radiation and the possible rise of sea levels is nothing compared to our lack of compassion ! Go figure indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? On 11/17/2014 9:10 PM, awoelflebater wrote: You betcha I'm reading, Edg. Christ man, I love it when you're mad. You've just shot the bastard down in flames. You've fucking made my day. By this post Barry Wright has destroyed any credibility his writing may have previously contained - exposed as the True Believer and a hypocrite of immense proportions. He actually truly believes he saw a guy levitate, hundreds of times, yet Barry claims it was a normal event. It's not normal - it's cognitive dissonance on a grand scale put forth as Woo Woo! Personally I don't care what he says or does, I just get tired of people lying all the time and trying to puff themselves up to make them seem better or more spiritually advanced than others. Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night. - TurquoiseB
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. The Turq's real problem is that he is so lama-brainwashed that he actually believes that compassion will solve the problems of this planet. Nuclear radiation and the possible rise of sea levels is nothing compared to our lack of compassion ! Go figure indeed. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? On 11/17/2014 9:10 PM, awoelflebater wrote: You betcha I'm reading, Edg. Christ man, I love it when you're mad. You've just shot the bastard down in flames. You've fucking made my day. By this post Barry Wright has destroyed any credibility his writing may have previously contained - exposed as the True Believer and a hypocrite of immense proportions. He actually truly believes he saw a guy levitate, hundreds of times, yet Barry claims it was a normal event. It's not normal - it's cognitive dissonance on a grand scale put forth as Woo Woo! Personally I don't care what he says or does, I just get tired of people lying all the time and trying to puff themselves up to make them seem better or more spiritually advanced than others. Judy was right about this guy. Go figure. I've seen someone levitate. Many times. In many settings, from the Los Angeles Convention Center to the Anza-Borrego Desert to a Denny's restaurant in the wee hours of the night. - TurquoiseB
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Geiger counters measure but the crudest harmful radiation. When our communication with the Space Brothers goes to the next step it will be seen that their greatest contribution to this planet was that they saved our lives by neutralized extremely dangerous radiation. A work that has been, and continues to be, in co-operation with the Hierarchy of Masters of which Maitreya is the most advanced and Guru Dev, Mary and Jesus from Nasareth prominent members. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : How do you know that global warming is the biggest threat ? According to some methaphysists we would all be dead long ago if our Space Brothers didn't initiate their programmes to neutralize nuclear radiation here right after WWII. Radiation our instruments are far to crude to register. I don't think amounts of radiation that can seriously harm living things is hard to measure. Geiger counters and other means of measuring radiation were developed decades ago and they have only been getting more advanced and sensitive. I'd have to disagree with you on that one, Nabby. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Katy Perry shares her secrets for beating jet lag
Haha, drooling it is :-) And more and more I run into these very well-behaved, bright young people, they have a sweetness about them I honestly can't remember anyone at my schools had. I'm pretty sure it has something to do with this: One afternoon in the mid 70's Maharishi came to the lecturehall and simply said; From this morning the channels are open for more evolved souls to take birth. Some time ago just for fun I joined a march against the use of furs and the appalling fur-industry, mostly to do some snaps. What I realized was that the vast majority were very Young, many as Young as 13- 14 years old and hardly any above 50 at all. It was a very inspiering moment and I strongly felt The future of mankind is Bright, and that is Our delight - which was Maharishi's departing Words.
[FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld
Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. A spy on the set of a recent shoot for a car commercial was surprised when Seinfeld took a break from filming to practice Transcendental Meditation. We’re told the comedian ducked out midway through the afternoon session for about a half hour to do his chanting ritual. It seems Seinfeld, who’s been a devotee of the TM movement for decades, is so committed to his twice-daily meditation that he has it built into his shooting schedules. Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at commercial shoot http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at comme... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. View on www.nydailynews.com http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] GMO Activists Responsible For Decreased Kellogg’s Sales
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld
His success is obviously nothing compared to MJ's :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Bravo for addiction. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:38 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Even while filming, meditation is job one for Jerry Seinfeld Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. A spy on the set of a recent shoot for a car commercial was surprised when Seinfeld took a break from filming to practice Transcendental Meditation. We’re told the comedian ducked out midway through the afternoon session for about a half hour to do his chanting ritual. It seems Seinfeld, who’s been a devotee of the TM movement for decades, is so committed to his twice-daily meditation that he has it built into his shooting schedules. Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at commercial shoot http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Seinfeld caught taking meditation break at comme... http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Nothing gets between Jerry Seinfeld and his mantra. View on www.nydailynews.com http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/seinfeld-meditation-job-article-1.2013166 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. That's right, they are not in a hurry. If they had landed on the lawn of the White House or created a Crop Circle carved in stone at Piccadilly Circus many would go into shock (not Sal obviously, he would find some Scientific explanation even if only he had heard of it). Basically they choose when they want to be seen as they at will are able to switch into frequenzies making them invisible to most people. They have definately step uped their appearences here and sightings are now in the thousands this year, but according to Mr. Benjamin Creme mass showing by our Space Brothers is not in the cards anytime soon. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : 5. Crazy shit. There would be no end to the crazy shit. I suppose it's not completely beyond the bounds of the possible that UFO sightings and crop circles could be their way of gently getting us used to the idea that we're not alone. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : I can't believe you think the below responses are hefty enough to make this conversation worthwhile. You've merely tried to smack me around, as usual, with axiomless assertions. Do you ever play fair in a conversation? I'll leave it, as usual, for the rest of the crew here to decide if you're just being a prick or have any traction at all in the what would happen speculations. I get into it here with various parties, but almost always, I find a foul dis-ingenuity afoot..making closure or conclusion impossible. Smarm and snark are embraced while honesty is considered naive. I sincerely think that you don't care about clarity. Just a fucking troll, are ya? It's like you're a rat caught by one leg in a trap -- scared, small and prepared for your last actions to be vicious despite the obvious doom. And god damn it I've tried again and again to start afresh with new topics with you, but you just keep putting look at the putz Edg as your trump card. You're about as bad as Willy, ya know? Gotta look at that, bub. You're shooting from the hip most of the time to prop up a persona -- gotta get tiring I'da thought, but you seem to have endless energy for indulging in stupid flailing. And if aliens land and you say even a single word about them, I'll make it my mission in life to find you and smack a pie on that silly ass smirk into which your face is frozen. Still reading? Can't get enough abuse? Is this the reason you troll, so that others will expose your brokenness? Even when you attack Nabs or Willy, you're off base and unconvincing. Still reading? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Barrowd, Please re-read and note that I used the word if. Having done so, I did not need to shore up any cred for Gordon --- saved by the if, ya see? Meanwhile, your claim would not change my life in any way seems to be so obviously in-human that I would ask you to reconsider the statement. Not gonna happen. I stand on what I said before. Now, I shouldn't be surprised that you said this, because you say you saw levitation, and frankly, I would equate levitating to alien landing in how strongly human-mindset-impacting either would be if the world was given all the proofs necessary to KNOW instead of believe. And there you are saying you saw it and, so I guess, you're saying that that experience didn't do all that much of anything to you, so probably aliens wouldn't change your world either. What you're missing is having lived with seeing this for 14 years and watching as other people saw it, admitted having seen it and even raved about seeing it, but then a few days later claimed that they'd never seen it. Human beings have an investment in the status quo that can override ANYTHING. Have I got your reasoning here? Something like that? Did you actually KNOW that levitation was taking place, or did you say, There's a 1% chance this is some sort of staged illusion. Even the slightest doubt would be -- to me -- why levitation didn't shake your world at the time. If there were zero doubts and yet still your world was not rocked, then, okay, I got no explanation for why your nervous system didn't act normally. There was no doubt, and no need for it. It happened and in circumstances (like in a booth in Dennys) where no setup was possible. What it was that happened may still elude me, but it happened. What you don't get is that my nervous system treated this as normal BECAUSE IT WAS NORMAL. I saw this shit at least a couple a
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Both the Turq's claim that he saw the Lenz-Rama-guy levitate many times and Curti's claim that knowledge is not different in different states of consciousness loom over these two guys forever. It's a good thing that Richard keep reminding every possible lurker here how far out of any possible self-insight these two guy's are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/15/2014 4:23 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Sal is adjusting his speak every day now. Watch out, one of these days he'll even retract his extremely silly judgements on the Crop Circles. Adjusting his speak - that's a good one! Apparently he already believes in tall tales - he has yet to reply to Barry's levitation claims about Rama. Go figure. And I don't just mean explaining things away, to be convincing you have to show that something more realistic happened, more credible and using explanations we already understand and are known to happen in certain circumstances. - salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I love your last paragraph: folklore in action; techno ghost stories for the nuclear age. As for me, I believe there is life somewhere else in the vast universe. And I think they are more highly advanced than us and maybe here with us. And I think it's great. We can believe what we like. I have no opinion on intelligent life elsewhere, we don't know the variables that allow for it to develop. We could be unique or the universe could be teeming or maybe there's just one or two per galaxy over it's entire history. But the chances of there being other humanoids visiting Earth at the just same time as we've understood where we are cosmically? It beggars belief. Alien craft is the least likely explanation for UFO's. But I hope it's true. But at that point, I'm more like turq. It doesn't really impact my life one way or the other. Either way, what is the action step? (-: I don't know, just enjoy the ride, the evolving myth. We are apparently on the brink of something called disclosure. We've been here before a few times as I recall, it never amounts to much but it's fun watching the TB's get excited that their favourite daydream is to be officially confirmed. But it won't be, the UFO's won't land and Maitreya won't appear. It's the way of things. The connection between the two is that people want there to be more, want there to be a reason and for there to be salvation from a higher power, whether it's alien or spiritual. We're talking deep human needs here. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 3:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sal doesn't like UFO's because they aren't scientific :-) It's an interesting point Nabs. The thing is one can only get scientific about something if it is available to study, UFO's are so fleeting and ephemeral that there really isn't anything to study other than hearsay or suspiciously absent film taken by higher powers to keep the whole thing secret. But a great many people have studied what they can about UFO sightings, and done it with as much rigour as you can with such a paucity of hard evidence. I'm not sure there is an encounter that hasn't got a better explanation that doesn't involve us being visited by beings from another world. And I don't just mean explaining things away, to be convincing you have to show that something more realistic happened, more credible and using explanations we already understand and are known to happen in certain circumstances. Even testing soil damage and skin burns for alternative causes. People are being scientific about UFO's. But here's the thing you overlook in your quip, I've been interested in UFO's for as long as I remember, I've a got a shelf full of the classic books on the subject. Even the true believer stuff from serious researchers like Timothy Good and the abductionists like Bud Hopkins. I bet I know all the great encounters by heart - Cortile, Ramirez, Roswell, Pascagoula, Ilkley Moor, Rendlesham... I love it but I don't take it at face value. To me, UFO's are folklore in action. The evolving myth of abduction and what they are supposedly doing here are the legends of our time, a new religion, encapsulating our fears about technology and promising us freedom from our destructive ways, yet always remaining remarkably evidence free. There's always
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lucid-dreaming query
Lucid dreaming is the innoscent play of the sub-conscious. That anyone place such importance to this to the extent one would spend time practising Buddhist-dream-yoga is a desperate cry for real knowledge there is in the world today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : When I have had a lucid dream, with the same caveats - spontaneous, no techniques or anything, uncommon, I always find what is unfolding, so compelling, that it doesn't occur to me to want to change direction, or look at my left foot, or whatever. I am always drawn along, usually pleasantly, by the events I am watching and somehow participating in, and just let it go along. I suppose if I had them often, I might want to explore more about them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? Anyone had a similar experience?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Lucid-dreaming query
Lucid dreaming is the innoscent play of the sub-conscious. That anyone place such importance to this to the extent one would spend time practising Tibetan-dream-yoga is a desperate cry for real knowledge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : It's funny when you are having that lucidity in a dream and you look at the characters you are interacting with and think to yourself You people are just a creation of my fancy but said characters don't bat an eyelid and just get on with their roles! My lucid dream last night was also pleasant. And I had the thought that I could awake myself and see my familiar bedroom anytime I wished - which I assume was indeed the case. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : When I have had a lucid dream, with the same caveats - spontaneous, no techniques or anything, uncommon, I always find what is unfolding, so compelling, that it doesn't occur to me to want to change direction, or look at my left foot, or whatever. I am always drawn along, usually pleasantly, by the events I am watching and somehow participating in, and just let it go along. I suppose if I had them often, I might want to explore more about them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? Anyone had a similar experience?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lucid-dreaming query
I experience lucid dreaming almost every night, it's just fun, no big deal. That anyone place any importance to this whatsoever just shows how desperate they are for knowledge. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Lucid dreaming is the innoscent play of the sub-conscious. That anyone place such importance to this to the extent one would spend time practising Buddhist-dream-yoga is a desperate cry for real knowledge there is in the world today. Translation: Maharishi didn't know how to teach this and I've never experienced it, therefore it has no value. insert appropriate stomping of feet, shouting, and other forms of Tantrum Yoga here :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : When I have had a lucid dream, with the same caveats - spontaneous, no techniques or anything, uncommon, I always find what is unfolding, so compelling, that it doesn't occur to me to want to change direction, or look at my left foot, or whatever. I am always drawn along, usually pleasantly, by the events I am watching and somehow participating in, and just let it go along. I suppose if I had them often, I might want to explore more about them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : So last night I had a lucid experience while dreaming (it's happened a few times before - always involuntary as I've never bothered to follow the techniques recommended by devotees of this perception). At least I assume it was a lucid-dream experience - I suppose one could have a normal dream which included the false thought that one was lucid when in fact one wasn't (if you can follow that explanation). What's more, I woke up (for real), mused about the dream for a minute, then fell asleep again and immediately went back into the same dream landscape in the same self-conscious, lucid state. Now I'd heard that when in a lucid dream you can alter the dreamscape to suit yourself. So you might find it amusing to flip over into being a Zero pilot on a kamikaze mission and diving into the Golden Dome in Fairfield. Whatever floats your boat. Anyway, though I was lucidly self-aware that I was indeed dreaming I couldn't change the story narration unfolding before me so just left the dream to run its course while absorbing the novel experience. My question is: is there some trick to getting the dream to change to suit your whim or is it a case of practice makes perfect? Or maybe most lucid dreams are like mine? Or maybe my will power is feeble compared with my imaginative power and others have a more dominant will? Anyone had a similar experience?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Seems Richard has managed to push the buttons of the Turq big-time, no matter how much he claims never to read any of his posts :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Willytex can continue to remind people of anything he fuckin' wants...it doesn't bother me a bit. I've never claimed to *understand* what was going on when I and hundreds of other people saw Fred levitate, only that we witnessed it. He's just jealous that he never has...that's why at this point he has made several *thousand* posts about it. Compare and contrast against the claim made by Nabby several times on this forum that *HE* has levitated, hanging in the air for long periods of time. There is no one on Earth who doesn't find that laughable. :-) As for Curtis, I doubt seriously that he has ever suggested that *perception* is not different in different states of consciousness, only that *reality* probably isn't. Nabby wouldn't make that distinction because quite frankly he doesn't understand the difference. As with his claims to have personally levitated (which he has been unable to provide proof for or find anyone to substantiate), he seems to believe that if he experienced or perceived something, that *is* reality. I suspect that both Curtis and I would agree that anyone who believes this is delusional. Even if you don't bother factoring in the fact that Nabby also believes in little green men whose idea of fun is stomping patterns in fields of wheat to show how advanced and intelligent they are. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs Both the Turq's claim that he saw the Lenz-Rama-guy levitate many times and Curti's claim that knowledge is not different in different states of consciousness loom over these two guys forever. It's a good thing that Richard keep reminding every possible lurker here how far out of any possible self-insight these two guy's are. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/15/2014 4:23 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: Sal is adjusting his speak every day now. Watch out, one of these days he'll even retract his extremely silly judgements on the Crop Circles. Adjusting his speak - that's a good one! Apparently he already believes in tall tales - he has yet to reply to Barry's levitation claims about Rama. Go figure. And I don't just mean explaining things away, to be convincing you have to show that something more realistic happened, more credible and using explanations we already understand and are known to happen in certain circumstances. - salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I love your last paragraph: folklore in action; techno ghost stories for the nuclear age. As for me, I believe there is life somewhere else in the vast universe. And I think they are more highly advanced than us and maybe here with us. And I think it's great. We can believe what we like. I have no opinion on intelligent life elsewhere, we don't know the variables that allow for it to develop. We could be unique or the universe could be teeming or maybe there's just one or two per galaxy over it's entire history. But the chances of there being other humanoids visiting Earth at the just same time as we've understood where we are cosmically? It beggars belief. Alien craft is the least likely explanation for UFO's. But I hope it's true. But at that point, I'm more like turq. It doesn't really impact my life one way or the other. Either way, what is the action step? (-: I don't know, just enjoy the ride, the evolving myth. We are apparently on the brink of something called disclosure. We've been here before a few times as I recall, it never amounts to much but it's fun watching the TB's get excited that their favourite daydream is to be officially confirmed. But it won't be, the UFO's won't land and Maitreya won't appear. It's the way of things. The connection between the two is that people want there to be more, want there to be a reason and for there to be salvation from a higher power, whether it's alien or spiritual. We're talking deep human needs here. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 3:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
The Turq's is hallucinating about people stalking him. Probably makes him feel special. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/14/2014 8:36 PM, steve.sundur wrote: Barry, your greatness is unparalleled. Barry is one of the greatest cases of cognitive dissonance that I have ever seen on discussion group: He believes his Facebook friends are stalking him, yet he sent them an invite. Everyone stalked him over here, but he sent a message challenging us to a debate. We hate him because we are so JELLOS of his temporary subjective, enlightenment experiences. You need to understand, Steve, that here is a guy that spent decades reading wisdom books and chasing after the enlightenment experience; donating tens of thousands of dollars just to witness magic tricks performed on a stage. Yet, he still can't perform a single magic trick, he isn't enlightened, he can't fly or levitate himself, or even PROVE a single spiritual experience. For all his effort, his spiritual quest was a total loss according to Xeno. Barry got nothing, nada, bupkis. He got the T-shirt but he didn't even get a spiritual name and had to make up one - Uncle Tantra - when he wrote his own wisdom book. After he got kicked out of the cult, in an act of lonely desperation he went on social media to try and teach others how to act enlightened, but instead he was humiliated and got the shit beat out him for ten years by The Corrector. We need to help this guy but he doesn't seem to want any help from his friends. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : This story from the Puranas is the very reason for my Do Not Read List. My stalkers are free to pick up any of my qualities that they wish to by focusing so intently on their hatred for me, while by ignoring them and not even reading what they write I pick up nothing from them. Win-win. :-) From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good Thanks Michael and Barry. The funniest kicker to the story is that according to the Puranas, a demon can gain enlightenment by a steady opposition to Krishna. So the only thing that will happen from this circle jerk is that we gain Maharishi's purity and Buck gains our impurity. Not a bad deal huh?! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... wrote : One of the bests post I have ever seen on FFL - thanks Curtis. Very interesting to read Marshy's pontifications in context. From: curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good C: Since Buck decided to take a swipe at me well I have been off the board, I will take a moment to make my own case: that Buck comically misunderstands the meaning of Maharishi's message as usual and idiotically thinks it might serve as a weapon against people who think differently than he does. The hysterical perversion of the intention of Maharishi's words being used as a justification of his doing EXACTLY what Maharishi is warning against is too good to miss. Plus it gives me a chance to comment on Maharishi's style of self promotions as a special guy that seems to have worked so well on Buck. My comments will be interspersed with Maharishi's below Don't Speak Ill, Remain Pure, 1964 Everyone has to discharge one's duty towards himself and towards spreading of this meditation in whatever capacity one can. And never undermine any other's attempt or desires in whatever humble way it may be. C: The context is his teachers who were bitching about each other. Maharishi wants them to get back to work pitching his product and STFU about their personality problems with each other. One thing of very great importance: that now when you have been meditating for some time, purity has grown in life quite a lot. As the mind gains more and more of the Being, mind becomes more and more pure. C: Again setting the context, this applies to those who are of a level of purity where this kind of magical effect takes place. He is not making a broad statement about all people and is not addressing this to non meditators. By applying it to Barry and Michael and me, Buck is saying that our consciousness is as pure as his so this
[FairfieldLife] Meditation sessions a hit in dysfunctional Congress
On 13 November 2014 New York Post reported: The success of programmes for veterans and other at-risk groups has inspired a congressional leader to organize meditation sessions for people working in Washington, DC at the US Congress. Rep Tim Ryan began the meditation sessions, which he calls, 'Quiet Time Caucus' two years ago and the New York Post is calling the sessions 'wildly popular' with members of Congress and staffers. It is a joy for Global Good News service to feature this news, which indicates the success of the life-supporting programmes Maharishi has designed to bring fulfilment to the field of government. Meditation sessions a hit in dysfunctional Congress http://pagesix.com/2014/10/25/meditation-sessions-become-a-hit-in-dysfunctional-congress/ http://pagesix.com/2014/10/25/meditation-sessions-become-a-hit-in-dysfunctional-congress/ Meditation sessions a hit in dysfunctional Congress http://pagesix.com/2014/10/25/meditation-sessions-become-a-hit-in-dysfunctional-congress/ Meditation sessions have become a wildly popular pastime in Congress ahead of votes, although the practice is far more common among Democrats than Repub... View on pagesix.com http://pagesix.com/2014/10/25/meditation-sessions-become-a-hit-in-dysfunctional-congress/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
There is not one astronaut who has NOT reported seeing UFO's, sometimes huge and in large nubers, back to NASA and/or their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If Gordon is not crazy, then the American government is purposefully, mindfully, ABSOLUTELY evil. If there are aliens visiting us and we're not being told -- it robs every person on Earth. EVERY PERSON ON EARTH. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone ever could possibly be who we are now if we knew that UFOs are real. IT. WOULD. CHANGE. EVERYTHING. And that's why it might be kept a secret -- the concept money would be bereft of allure. If you say that it would NOT be all that much of a big deal, cuz everyone's so inured already by Hollywood films, then YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY. Every person in every way: changed. Agreed. Luckily I don;t suppose it will come to that. Which is a shame as I'd be the happiest person on Earth if it turned out that UFO's were alien spacecraft, but the truth of sightings always turns out to be more mundane. Take the name flying saucers, everyone sees saucer shaped craft but the name is a mistake from the first encounter anyone had. Kenneth Arnold (an experienced pilot) saw a squadron of highly reflective crescent shaped aircraft flying at great speed in a V formation over the Rocky mountains in 1947. He described them as flying like a saucer would if skipped across water. A journalist made up the name flying saucer and after that everyone saw saucer shaped craft when they saw something mysterious in the sky. The power of suggestion. Sadly there's no such thing as a reliable witness and any one can be fooled, Arnold most likely saw a flock of pelicans and mistook them for unknown aircraft and miscalculated their distance from him. We all make mistakes but the influence his mistake had is immeasurable. Because we people are so unreliable, if I had to bet I would say that Cooper saw some atmospheric effect from flying at supersonic speed that no one had noticed before and mistook it for real craft moving above him. And early radar was hopelessly unreliable, the UK air defence system in the cold war was always telling us that giant UFOs were crossing the north sea but when planes were scrambled to look it turned out to have been temperature inversions confusing the equipment. When these anomalies were understood and ironed out UFO reports stopped coming in. It's the way it goes, people see stuff and imagination plugs any gaps, popular culture is rife with imagery that came before the sightings. I can't trust myself let alone anyone else! I would like to see this film they took though but, I don't suppose we ever will. That's the way it's always been with UFO's, you get an incredible story that turns out to be something else or not to have any supporting evidence for whatever reason, and so much of it is easily explained away. I wish it were otherwise. I wish it were true. I want to believe! But it'd be a most curious coincidence if a journalist's artistic license in describing saucers actually coincided with real saucers appearing from another world. What are the chances of that? Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Mercury 9 and Gemini 5 astronaut Gordon Cooper talks about his UFO sightings and experiences. Okay, since somebody is questioning about UFO footage and Yo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Astronaut Buzz Aldrin Recounts Apollo 11 UFO Encounter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI Astronaut Buzz Aldrin Recounts Apollo 11 UFO ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI Buzz Aldrin talks about the 'UFO' which the Apollo 11 crew saw on their way to the moon. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlkV1ybBnHI Preview by Yahoo Astronauts And UFOs. (Neil Armstrong, Gordon Cooper and Edgar Mitchell All Witnessed UFOs.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9euFudUIY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9euFudUIY Astronauts And UFOs. (Neil Armstrong, Gordon Cooper... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9euFudUIY Astronauts Neil Armstrong, Gordon Cooper and Edgar Mitchell all witnessed UFOs during their NASA missions and say Aliens exist. View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9euFudUIY Preview by Yahoo NASA Astronaut - Gordon Cooper 1st Man In Space Admits Aliens are Real.flv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9CoWd6o6WI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9CoWd6o6WI NASA Astronaut - Gordon Cooper 1st Man In Space... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9CoWd6o6WI Leroy Gordon Cooper, Jr., also known as Gordon Cooper, (March 6, 1927 -- October 4, 2004) was an engineer and American astronaut. Cooper was one of... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9CoWd6o6WI Preview by Yahoo 2013 MUST SEE! Apollo Astronaut SHOCKED By UFO Flying Over Moon Surface - Aliens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whzmaJhw9ZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whzmaJhw9ZY 2013 MUST SEE! Apollo Astronaut SHOCKED By U... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whzmaJhw9ZY Two astronauts of Apollo 17 collect rock and soil samples and suddenly one of them gets really excited as he spots something weird flying over his head View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whzmaJhw9ZY Preview by Yahoo Dying Ex-CIA Worker Comes Forward About Area 51 Aleins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q Dying Ex-CIA Worker Comes Forward About Area 51 A... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q At an undisclosed location, with Richard Dolans. My gut feeling is this guy is telling the truth, I mean it REALLY seems like he isn't making this up. I mean... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Dying Ex-CIA Worker Comes Forward About Area 51 Aliens
This is the fellow who was sent by President Eisenhover to find out what was going on in area51 and who reported back to him in Washington: Dying Ex-CIA Worker Comes Forward About Area 51 Aleins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q Dying Ex-CIA Worker Comes Forward About Area 51 A... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q At an undisclosed location, with Richard Dolans. My gut feeling is this guy is telling the truth, I mean it REALLY seems like he isn't making this up. I mean... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQH11GW7w8Q Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Sal doesn't like UFO's because they aren't scientific :-) Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 1080p HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Edgar Dean Mitchell, Sc.D. is an American pilot, retired Captain in the United States Navy and NASA astronaut. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I didn't really read what sal has written below, but I think the gist of it is, that he doesn't like the person who coined the word flying saucer Is that what his dissertation is about this time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : There is not one astronaut who has NOT reported seeing UFO's, sometimes huge and in large nubers, back to NASA and/or their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If Gordon is not crazy, then the American government is purposefully, mindfully, ABSOLUTELY evil. If there are aliens visiting us and we're not being told -- it robs every person on Earth. EVERY PERSON ON EARTH. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone ever could possibly be who we are now if we knew that UFOs are real. IT. WOULD. CHANGE. EVERYTHING. And that's why it might be kept a secret -- the concept money would be bereft of allure. If you say that it would NOT be all that much of a big deal, cuz everyone's so inured already by Hollywood films, then YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY. Every person in every way: changed. Agreed. Luckily I don;t suppose it will come to that. Which is a shame as I'd be the happiest person on Earth if it turned out that UFO's were alien spacecraft, but the truth of sightings always turns out to be more mundane. Take the name flying saucers, everyone sees saucer shaped craft but the name is a mistake from the first encounter anyone had. Kenneth Arnold (an experienced pilot) saw a squadron of highly reflective crescent shaped aircraft flying at great speed in a V formation over the Rocky mountains in 1947. He described them as flying like a saucer would if skipped across water. A journalist made up the name flying saucer and after that everyone saw saucer shaped craft when they saw something mysterious in the sky. The power of suggestion. Sadly there's no such thing as a reliable witness and any one can be fooled, Arnold most likely saw a flock of pelicans and mistook them for unknown aircraft and miscalculated their distance from him. We all make mistakes but the influence his mistake had is immeasurable. Because we people are so unreliable, if I had to bet I would say that Cooper saw some atmospheric effect from flying at supersonic speed that no one had noticed before and mistook it for real craft moving above him. And early radar was hopelessly unreliable, the UK air defence system in the cold war was always telling us that giant UFOs were crossing the north sea but when planes were scrambled to look it turned out to have been temperature inversions confusing the equipment. When these anomalies were understood and ironed out UFO reports stopped coming in. It's the way it goes, people see stuff and imagination plugs any gaps, popular culture is rife with imagery that came before the sightings. I can't trust myself let alone anyone else! I would like to see this film they took though but, I don't suppose we ever will. That's the way it's always been with UFO's, you get an incredible story that turns out to be something else or not to have any supporting evidence for whatever reason, and so much of it is easily explained away. I wish it were otherwise. I wish it were true. I want to believe! But it'd be a most curious coincidence if a journalist's artistic license in describing saucers actually coincided with real saucers appearing from another world. What are the chances of that? Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Mercury 9 and Gemini 5 astronaut Gordon Cooper talks about his UFO sightings and experiences. Okay, since somebody is questioning about UFO footage and Yo... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Sal is adjusting his speak every day now. Watch out, one of these days he'll even retract his extremely harsh judgements on the Crop Circles. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Salyavin, I love your last paragraph: folklore in action; techno ghost stories for the nuclear age. As for me, I believe there is life somewhere else in the vast universe. And I think they are more highly advanced than us and maybe here with us. And I think it's great. We can believe what we like. I have no opinion on intelligent life elsewhere, we don't know the variables that allow for it to develop. We could be unique or the universe could be teeming or maybe there's just one or two per galaxy over it's entire history. But the chances of there being other humanoids visiting Earth at the just same time as we've understood where we are cosmically? It beggars belief. Alien craft is the least likely explanation for UFO's. But I hope it's true. But at that point, I'm more like turq. It doesn't really impact my life one way or the other. Either way, what is the action step? (-: I don't know, just enjoy the ride, the evolving myth. We are apparently on the brink of something called disclosure. We've been here before a few times as I recall, it never amounts to much but it's fun watching the TB's get excited that their favourite daydream is to be officially confirmed. But it won't be, the UFO's won't land and Maitreya won't appear. It's the way of things. The connection between the two is that people want there to be more, want there to be a reason and for there to be salvation from a higher power, whether it's alien or spiritual. We're talking deep human needs here. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 3:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sal doesn't like UFO's because they aren't scientific :-) It's an interesting point Nabs. The thing is one can only get scientific about something if it is available to study, UFO's are so fleeting and ephemeral that there really isn't anything to study other than hearsay or suspiciously absent film taken by higher powers to keep the whole thing secret. But a great many people have studied what they can about UFO sightings, and done it with as much rigour as you can with such a paucity of hard evidence. I'm not sure there is an encounter that hasn't got a better explanation that doesn't involve us being visited by beings from another world. And I don't just mean explaining things away, to be convincing you have to show that something more realistic happened, more credible and using explanations we already understand and are known to happen in certain circumstances. Even testing soil damage and skin burns for alternative causes. People are being scientific about UFO's. But here's the thing you overlook in your quip, I've been interested in UFO's for as long as I remember, I've a got a shelf full of the classic books on the subject. Even the true believer stuff from serious researchers like Timothy Good and the abductionists like Bud Hopkins. I bet I know all the great encounters by heart - Cortile, Ramirez, Roswell, Pascagoula, Ilkley Moor, Rendlesham... I love it but I don't take it at face value. To me, UFO's are folklore in action. The evolving myth of abduction and what they are supposedly doing here are the legends of our time, a new religion, encapsulating our fears about technology and promising us freedom from our destructive ways, yet always remaining remarkably evidence free. There's always a new vision to add to the mythos but conveniently never any hard evidence to help decide one way or the other. And the longer that scenario goes on the more convinced any casual observer should be that we are kidding ourselves, because deep down we like ghost stories and that's really what they are. Something scary always just out of reach. Techno ghost stories for the nuclear age. Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 1080p HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Edgar Dean Mitchell, Sc.D. is an American pilot, retired Captain in the United States Navy and NASA astronaut. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I didn't really read what sal has written below, but I think the gist of it is, that he doesn't like the person who coined the word flying saucer Is that what his
[FairfieldLife] Re: Okay, let's put it on the table: UFOs
Sal is adjusting his speak every day now. Watch out, one of these days he'll even retract his extremely silly judgements on the Crop Circles. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : always a tell when one feels they need to go on and on about something they are not comfortable with as if they are trying to convince themselves. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Sal doesn't like UFO's because they aren't scientific :-) Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 1080p HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Former Astronaut Explains The UFO Cover-Up 2013 ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Edgar Dean Mitchell, Sc.D. is an American pilot, retired Captain in the United States Navy and NASA astronaut. As the lunar module pilot of Apollo 14, ... View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AAJ34_NMcI Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : I didn't really read what sal has written below, but I think the gist of it is, that he doesn't like the person who coined the word flying saucer Is that what his dissertation is about this time? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : There is not one astronaut who has NOT reported seeing UFO's, sometimes huge and in large nubers, back to NASA and/or their families. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : If Gordon is not crazy, then the American government is purposefully, mindfully, ABSOLUTELY evil. If there are aliens visiting us and we're not being told -- it robs every person on Earth. EVERY PERSON ON EARTH. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone ever could possibly be who we are now if we knew that UFOs are real. IT. WOULD. CHANGE. EVERYTHING. And that's why it might be kept a secret -- the concept money would be bereft of allure. If you say that it would NOT be all that much of a big deal, cuz everyone's so inured already by Hollywood films, then YOU DON'T KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY. Every person in every way: changed. Agreed. Luckily I don;t suppose it will come to that. Which is a shame as I'd be the happiest person on Earth if it turned out that UFO's were alien spacecraft, but the truth of sightings always turns out to be more mundane. Take the name flying saucers, everyone sees saucer shaped craft but the name is a mistake from the first encounter anyone had. Kenneth Arnold (an experienced pilot) saw a squadron of highly reflective crescent shaped aircraft flying at great speed in a V formation over the Rocky mountains in 1947. He described them as flying like a saucer would if skipped across water. A journalist made up the name flying saucer and after that everyone saw saucer shaped craft when they saw something mysterious in the sky. The power of suggestion. Sadly there's no such thing as a reliable witness and any one can be fooled, Arnold most likely saw a flock of pelicans and mistook them for unknown aircraft and miscalculated their distance from him. We all make mistakes but the influence his mistake had is immeasurable. Because we people are so unreliable, if I had to bet I would say that Cooper saw some atmospheric effect from flying at supersonic speed that no one had noticed before and mistook it for real craft moving above him. And early radar was hopelessly unreliable, the UK air defence system in the cold war was always telling us that giant UFOs were crossing the north sea but when planes were scrambled to look it turned out to have been temperature inversions confusing the equipment. When these anomalies were understood and ironed out UFO reports stopped coming in. It's the way it goes, people see stuff and imagination plugs any gaps, popular culture is rife with imagery that came before the sightings. I can't trust myself let alone anyone else! I would like to see this film they took though but, I don't suppose we ever will. That's the way it's always been with UFO's, you get an incredible story that turns out to be something else or not to have any supporting evidence for whatever reason, and so much of it is easily explained away. I wish it were otherwise. I wish it were true. I want to believe! But it'd be a most curious coincidence if a journalist's artistic license in describing saucers actually coincided with real saucers appearing from another world. What are the chances of that? Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Astronaut Gordon Cooper Talks About UFOs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvPR8T1o3Dc Mercury 9 and Gemini 5 astronaut Gordon Cooper talks about his UFO sightings and experiences.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi on Not Speaking Ill of Others + Finding Something Good in Others and Talking about that Good
Very wise Buck. The Islamic fundamentalists feel justified to kill those who speak ill of their Prophet. We don't have to do that as we know as we sow so shall we reap. They seem to lack the basic understanding of the laws of karma and if you kill an enemy he will just continue to be your enemy in another life, perhaps even more fiercely so. So I object to your resolution. Just forget about the Turq and let him fry in his own fat. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote : Well, really there is a much larger communal discussion going on here about dealing with negativity. As such I am not going to entertain your particular negativity around this any further. For to go any further might well necessitate having to denounce you in addition to dredging your negativity further and I feel that should not be spiritually useful for either of us right now, according to the teaching. Instead I shall sit in yoga with your energetic resolution of your anger issues. I wish you well, -Buck turquoiseb wroteSon,... How old are you, Buck? I'll bet I'm older than you are. ...as a transcendentalist I well know the reality of my inner experience with this and for that I am quite a satisfied customer of the transcending meditation experience. I have no problem with this, and am in fact happy for you that your inner experience has been good for you. What I object to is your assumption that YOUR inner experience means diddleysquat to anyone else or is good for them. Or even that it should. I know and can certainly trust in the clarity of that reality by the science of my experience, thank you for asking. That reality isn't one. It's only your inner experience. YOUR INNER EXPERIENCE IS NOT REALITY. IT'S ONLY YOUR INNER EXPERIENCE. Get it? I am not going to get down in to your mud to wrestle with you point by point about George Bush, life is too short for that. However there is in deed a discerning and practical spiritual aspect of caution to what Maharishi is getting at with his negativity talk around spiritual practice. I find it wise to take that to heart. Jai Guru Dev, -Buck Sorry, but I can't take to heart the possibility that anyone who still tries to end rants by invoking the thoughtstopper Jai Guru Dev could possibly be wise. turquoiseb wrote : Two words: Scorpion nation. Five more: George Bush is a rakshasa. Saner persons than you would have looked at this and realized long ago that in Maharishi they were dealing with at best a hypocrite and at worst an insane person. Yet you still seem to consider him some sort of expert. Can you explain to us why you think this? Could it possibly be that the memories of him you're trying to hard to protect do not have and have never had anything to do with reality? So evidently spiritually speaking what Maharishi is saying here is that if one entertains a negativity then one commits a negativity on the subtle. One may even take on the energetics in the subtle. Negativity in form then it seems is like an entity lodging in the system spiritually. Like a stress snag, an entity, like some would call a thought-form, energetically stuck in the fabric of the subtle system. There is proly some truth to that. -Buck Dear FFL, Culturally this particular post below attempting to clarify Maharishi's teaching on negativity is really important. It did not just show up here. And so accordingly, evidently these TM apostates here like MJ, Turqb, CDB here having divorced themselves from things TM are trying to protect what they may well think is their spiritual lives from what they had experienced as a culture of ethical negativity that was TM, so they seem to say. But yet as these guys wallow in their stories even years later does this not continue to bring on them their own negativity. Quite evidently according to what Maharishi is teaching here their own loops in negativity are not really good for these guys. It would be more better if they should be silent about these things of their past and not just keep dredging it up. They really should stop all this negativity for their own good and quite possibly also a larger collective good of everyone. Om, strike that last comment about the larger collective good for it seems that Maharishi actually was not talking about collective good or organizations in these early discourse but more specifically individual spiritual systems. I do hope that their apostate subtle systems may recover in field effect and come to some equanimity around their own individual time in TM. Sincerely, -Buck Maharishi on Negativity: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403800 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/403804
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
A comment to be expected from the Turq. We all know that psychiatric wards are full of people being treated with psychofarma for having glimpses of higher states of consciousness they are not able to integrate in daily life. Experiences any real Sadhana will also give. The reason the Turq doesn't understand this is because he is a quitter that never did any Sadhana for any length of time in his entire life, instead choosing to live in a fantasy world believing his guru is respected and welcomed by heads of state everywhere. I'm sure there is a diagnosis for such fantasies as well. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 11/14/2014 2:50 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote: Prove to me that there is or ever has been such a thing as an enlightened being. I'll wait. Perception is reality- there are no other experiences except those that are subjective. Almost everything we know is based on verbal testimony what someone TOLD US. There is no knowing outside of conscious experience - knowledge is structured in consciousness. Everyone is special by virtue of being human with a self-conscious mind. The proof that everyone is enlightened is consciousness itself. The only reason you don't have the experience of being enlightened is because you are not Self-realized - you are ignorant. You didn't listen to your teachers and you apparently have not even read any wisdom books. Go figure. The thing is, John, you can't do it. You believe in enlightenment for the same reason you believe that these works of fiction are wisdom books, because someone you chose to believe TOLD YOU. That does *NOT* constitute proof. Me,I believe that the subjective experience that some call enlightenment exists. I believe this because I've experienced it for weeks and months at a time. But *having experienced it*, I can say that it was JUST ANOTHER EXPERIENCE. It did *not* make me special, and it doesn 't make anyone *else* special, either. It doesn't make anything they say any more accurate or cosmic or correct or valuable, any more than a profound drug-induced or psychosis-induced subjective experience does. Youdon't want to believe this because you have invested decades of your life pursuing practices that you believe will make you special. And after all these decades you are really *desperate* to be special. My advice is to relax, because it is never going to happen. Even if you have experiences that convince you that you're enlightened, no one (except the gullible idiots on the Batgap Forum) will treat you any differently, no one will think you're wise, and no one will be any more impressed by you than they ever have been. And if you write a book based on your experiences, it definitely won't be a wisdom book. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
That's nice Share. Before lift-off my body would always transform itself into a ball of light. As easily could be seen by others. Needless to say, the closed minded didn't see anything :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I used to always see the others in the room during flying, like that - had my eyes closed, but everyone showed up clearly, and proportionately, as light beings. Always turned into that, myself, when flying. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Nabby, fun coincidence that you are talking about this and I had an experience in the Dome this morning that I've never had before. My eyes were closed and in my mind's eye, I saw all the other women as ovals of white light. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 4:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence
prolonged staring at an Object Was this even mentioned in my post ? Your reasoning is superficial and silly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com What Nabby is describing is called retinal fatique, prolonged staring at an object without the eyes moving exhausts the chemistry in the retina responsible for the detection of light. If when this happens and you look away at a light surface, you see a negative image, colours reversed that persists for a while (after image) while the chemistry refreshes. The eyes also do not remain completely still but naturally saccade, which partially helps to prevent retinal fatigue when one is not deliberately staring at something, which reduces but does not eliminate the saccade. Because of the scacade, the after image formed by staring does not perfectly line up with the object which can account for edge effects around the object viewe I suppose this could be mistaken for some kind of 'spiritual' experience by the uninitiated, but it is just 'looking at something'. Spiritual experiences are just artefacts of the nervous system releasing prior conditioned responses and a person feels, for a while, clearer, freer etc., but eventually realises or rather actually accommodates to the new clearer, freer experience which then just seems normal, everyday. Eventually a realisation comes that the only thing that exists is normal everyday experience, minus certain ideas about what normal everyday experience is. You just live it, you do not think about what it is supposed to be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : You realize, do you not, that you have just described yourself in a way that any psychiatrist in the world would diagnose as psychotic. When most people look at another person for a short time, the other person does not disappear. Have you considered just having your vision checked? :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-biological Intelligence If you look into anything deeply enough, jr, it resolves into consciousness, literally. Try it You don't even have to look very deeply. Looking at a person for some short time will make him disappear leaving a light, often golden or blue. In my experience the more evolved a person the quicker he disolves and the more interesting the light he leaves behind. And like you say it can be anything, only it takes a little longer for an ordinary object than humans to resolve.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Non-Intelligent Biology (was Re: Non-biological Intelligence)
Not so sure about that. According to the Turq himself he was involved because it presented plenty of opportunities to pick up broads. Doesn't sound as if he was into meditation much. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Turq did practise TM for a number of years. If what you say is true, TM was a total failure. This seems to be a problem with spiritual techniques in general, that most of the time they fail, if we go by our view of the persons practising them, and even according what these persons they say to us about their experiences. Success is rare. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, preliminary. The thing about experiences, even intermittent witnessing, is that some people collect these experiences, while remaining unchanged, themselves. Driven by egoic fear. It is like being a tourist of higher-consciousness experiences. I did listen to a bit of the Sat Shree interview and he says a veil, separating him from the rest of the universe, was torn open, with no possibility of being repaired. To live Being, silence, and bliss, is a far different thing, than collecting, I saw this, and, this happened once, and, for awhile, this other thing happened. Enlightenment is not an aggregate, a museum, or even, a mausoleum, of experiences - that's how religions get born, in the graveyards of memories, of higher consciousness. Experiences, as seen in the mind, continually shrink - very unsatisfying, whereas enlightenment constantly, effortlessly taps that font of creativity and expansion [pure awareness], renewing itself, so the mind, when it does act, has no need to rely on stale and shrinking memories - it can go anywhere it chooses, or just rest empty, in pure awareness. Once everything is available, there is no longer a need to collect experiences of any variety, no matter how tantalizing their memory may be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Turq hasn't had any spiritual experiences in his whole life. Forty-five years ago he experienced a few days of witnessing in Fiuggji, but that's only a preliminary experience. Yet he likes to brag about it even today, decades later. Later he had some hallucinations about his Buddhist-guru, the Lenz-guy who killed himself while wearing a dog-collar around his neck, levitating. And that's it. The fact is that the Turq-fellow never had any spiritual experiences at all. Yet he judge others, what a phony.
