[FairfieldLife] Re: Lurker tries to have an intelligent thought.

2010-03-24 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , lurkernomore20002000
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   Thank you Off. I will try to do so. May I suggest that YOU pull
back
  on this frenetic posting, and just admit that you backed down from a
  challenge
 
  Incorrect. I asked for his name and he didn't give it, so I could
not
  make any bet you moron. He did not bet, he is a coward that will not
  bet. Stop makng stuff up you piece lying shit. I want to bet with
him,
  but he won't give his name. I did not agree to any price. You are
 lying
  because you are a coward too. No price was a agreed to and the
thread
  attests to that. I will not agree to any price, until I know is
name.
  STOP lying about what happened you anonymous scumbag.

 Off, is there a damaged, scared little child behind all this
bombastic,
 stomping and name calling. 

Lol, anonymous cowards like you are not a real person. You are the
coward. I am a real man. I exist. Come and meet me coward.  Put up your
name, and we shall meet and then we shall see who the scared person is.
It is you who is the coward.

Goodbye anonymous looser.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] The Neocons, Fundies, and the Party of No are dead.

2010-03-24 Thread off_world_beings

The Neocons, Fundies, and the Party of No are dead.

Change has come.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Treason by Right-Wing bloggers.

2010-03-23 Thread off_world_beings

Treason by Right-Wing bloggers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN05yKgtiW8feature=sub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN05yKgtiW8feature=sub

Arrest Solly Forell.









[FairfieldLife] Re: Opinions turn favorable on health care plan

2010-03-23 Thread off_world_beings

All the polls were favorable before. The media just wanted to keep using
the catch phrase Americans are angry.

Trouble isAmericans are not angry. Just a small number of vociferous
weak-tea-baggers  and Shemp...who is Canadian.

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , do.rflex do.rf...@...
wrote:



 USA TODAY - Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of
the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a
USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a notable turnaround from surveys before
the vote that showed a plurality against it.

 By 49%-40% those surveyed say it was a good thing rather than a bad
one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in
positive terms, as enthusiastic or pleased, while about four in 10
describe it in negative ways, as disappointed or angry.

 The largest single group, 48%, calls the bill a good first step that
should be followed by more action on health care. An additional 4% also
have a favorable view, saying the bill makes the most important changes
needed in the nation's health care system.

 To be sure, the nation remains divided about the massive legislation
that narrowly passed the House late Sunday and was signed by Obama in an
emotional East Room ceremony Tuesday morning. The Senate began debate
Tuesday afternoon on a package of fixes demanded by the House.

 The findings are encouraging for the White House and congressional
Democrats, who get higher ratings than congressional Republicans for
their work on the issue. The poll shows receptive terrain as the White
House and advocacy groups launch efforts to sell the plan, including a
trip by Obama to Iowa on Thursday.

 No one gets overwhelmingly positive ratings on the issue, but Obama
fares the best: 46% say his work has been excellent or good; 31% call it
poor. Congressional Democrats get an even split: 32% call their efforts
good or excellent; 33% poor.

 The standing of congressional Republicans is more negative. While 26%
rate their work on health care as good or excellent, a larger group,
34%, say it has been poor.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorable\
_N.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorabl\
e_N.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-23 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:



   Ron Paul thinks that health care run by the state is a
   bad idea because the government takes away the money of
   tax payers, so that those without money can have health
   care.
  
 Bhairitu:
  So you want those people to get sick and infect you?
 
 Of course not - I want others to keep themselves in good
 health; to work and pay for their own health care and
 health insurance; and to save money for their retirement,
 not depend on government welfare.

You want to stomp on Sarah Palin's down-syndrome baby's head at birth,
in case anyone else has to help in a small amount to pay for the kids
medical bills, and in case society has to help them.

If not, then you want a family with a down-syndrome kid, or born with
another other debilitating ailment, to go bankrupt and live in the
woods, or, instead BEG for charity !

Oh Please sir, please sir, help me and my baby, please sir, don't stomp
on my baby's head again

That's what you want you disgusting piece of shit!

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama Plays the Mindful Long Game

2010-03-23 Thread off_world_beings

Obama showed us how to battle hard for a limited win in the short-term,
with an eye toward a larger win in the long term

Exactly.
I never understood all the insane fervor from the right and teabggers
about how Nothing has changed !

Its been barely over a year since he was inaugurated. People expect
change from the worst presedency and destruction of America of all time
to happen in few months !??

Obama has done WAY more than anyone could have expected in just over a
year.

OffWorld.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-kaiser-greenland/obama-plays-the
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-kaiser-greenland/obama-plays-the -
 mindful-l_b_509837.html

 LINK





[FairfieldLife] President Obama keeps his promise.

2010-03-23 Thread off_world_beings

President Obama keeps his promise:

Video from Nov. 2007:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utN9SPB1cSk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utN9SPB1cSk

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-23 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:

   Are you thinking that on a government
   insurance plan, they won't be telling
   you what you can eat or not?
  
 off:
  British eat what they want you dumbass.
 
 What about smoking - isn't that regulated
 by taxation and forbidden in some public
 places in Great Britain? Of course it is

A corporation making a profit out of poisoning your dumb ass, so that we
healthy people have to pick up the tab of paying for your ill=health and
thereby paying indirectly for their profitsis ILLEGAL.

We will hunt down and destroy corporations that poison ANYONE. Even an
asshole dumbass like you, that doesn't know any better. We will destroy
them for poisoning you, even if you don't like it. Dumb asses like you
in the red states cost us in the civilized states a lot of money.
Poisoning people is illegal. And we don't want to keep paying for your
leeching off of society, getting benifits, while poisoning yourself.

Your days are over Willytex. You are the past. I am the future.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Lurker tries to have an intelligent thought.

2010-03-23 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

 Thank you Off. I will try to do so.  May I suggest that YOU pull back
on this frenetic posting, and just admit that you backed down from a
challenge

Incorrect. I asked for his name and he didn't give it, so I could not
make any bet you moron. He did not bet, he is a coward that will not
bet. Stop makng stuff up you piece lying shit. I want to bet with him,
but he won't give his name. I did not agree to any price. You are lying
because you are a coward too. No price was a agreed to and the thread
attests to that. I will not agree to any price, until I know is name.
STOP lying about what happened you anonymous scumbag.

You are not a human either, you cowardly anonymous non-entity.

OffWorld

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

 You've got some unresolved business in these parts, pardner.

Which parts? Colorado is it?

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Mr. NoWhereMan...lost his marbles.

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

No bet was made Shemp, as you know. An Anonymous-No-Where-Man, throwing
out a number, and pretending someone took you up on a bet is a typical
dishonest trait that arises with the psychosis known as
Parasite-Cyber-Sad-Syndrome (or PISS for short.)

In addition, Anonymous-No-Where-Men cannot make bets, because they do
not exist.

No-one is interested in this phony bet of yours. You don't have the
money, and you are not even an actual person. You are a non-entity who
refuses to give his name -- even though you keep pretending you will.

The law firm address was an old address, they changed their comapny name
and offices apparently, but on second thoughts, you are not a
trustworthy citizen so giving any personal information to you is not
desirable. No-Where-Men don't get to interact in the real world. Put up
your name, or shut up Mr. NoWhereMan.







[FairfieldLife] Obama Wins Big ! ! !

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

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Wins Big___Obama Wins Big! ! !





---OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote:

 It's really fascinating being in the United States as
 this momentous bill passes. It's even more fascinating
 being stuck in a hotel room working and, contrary to my
 normal habits, watching the 'pundits' on the TV news
 melt down over this.

 FOX has gone bull goose loony. There is not even the
 pretense of fair and balanced. It's pure propaganda,
 verging on hate crime. If they're not preaching to the
 camera quoting polls that don't exist, they're playing
 lead the witness by trying to put words into the
 mouths of anyone they interview who is even slightly
 in favor of the bill.

 It's like watching Off or Shemp melt down when something
 they believe could never happen happens. 

Actually, its more like when you meltdown Turq, and start hating on
people and chasing them away from FFL -- just like you did here below
with this person, and many other times.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB no_re...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bronte Baxter
 brontebaxter8@ wrote:
 
  Turq and other guru enthusiasts...

Bronte and other idiots, take a look at yourselves.

You're PROJECTING your own shit, babe. As almost anyone here could tell
you, I am no guru enthusiast. Get your own act together before you
start bagging others, eh?

I didn't even bother to read the rest of your post, and probably won't
until you catch a clue.

--Turq. in Message 148985



OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Ted Kennedy is Smiling

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:


 On Mar 22, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

  Hopefully you're watching the death throes of an outmoded paradigm.


 Hopefully the win will cause an upsurge in Obama and the Dem's
 popularity and a downsurge in the Party of NO. On watching how this
 whole healthcare bill as it transpired and the incredible effort and
 intellect of Obama in pulling this off, I have a hard time imagining
 this pulled off by Hillary or any other Dem.

 It looks like we voted for the right man for the job when we voted
 for Obama. Super-big high-five to the O-man.

 Ted Kennedy's smiling down on us all.


Yes, it was a great victory, after the right-wingnuts showed their true
colors over the last year, and Fox News has been exposed as the blatant
Lie Machine that it is.

Also, now more and more of the more moderate crazies and isolationist
libertarians will realize that Fox and others have been feeding them
lies about creating communism, forcing people to pay even if they can't
afford it, killing grandma, etc., and will start to realize that the
bill helps millions, brings Amercia into the civilised world, and that
insurance companies cannot make people and companies bankrupt anymore.

The passing of this bill will have knock-on effects on society that are
MUCH bigger than this bill. It is a water-shed moment.

AN AUSPICIOUS DAY for sure !

Right-wingers start to attack right-wingers at this point, and their
world of hate will unravel so fast now.

Obama may be a reflection of an evolution in national consciousness,
just as Maharishi described every leaders' nature and role.

But, yes, some way to start visibly winding down the wars will need to
happen soon.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 snip
  It looks like we voted for the right man for the job when we voted
  for Obama. Super-big high-five to the O-man.
 
  Ted Kennedy's smiling down on us all.

 Ted Kennedy is royally pissed because Obama sacrificed
 the public option (while pretending to still be for it).

It is WAY better than any Public Option. It insures millions more, and
in time will cover anyone currently not covered. It is now illegal for
people to not have coverage, but just like in the past, the Democrats
made it illegal for hospitals to refuse someone, and so local, state,
and federal funding HAD to cover the treatment costs. As it should be.
NOW everyone who is not insured has to have insurance, but THEY do not
have to pay a penny if they cannot afford it - it is subsidized by the
tax payers now.

Those who can afford it, but do not want health insurance of any kind
(like Willyltex for example, if he was ever self-employed), it will
simply be like a tiny insignificant tax on them that they won't even
notice, and they will have to put up or shut up, just like in Britain.
And the British like their system, and the health insurance tax (which
is seperated out on payroll checks) is the LAST thing they would
complain about on their paycheck deductions.

I saw this is what Obama was doing a long time ago, and these rules will
never be repealed, even if Republicans gain in the Fall --- which they
won't.

This is a GREAT day for America. This is a watershed moment for America,
and due to its influence, for the world. The Neocons and Fundies are
dead in the water. Change has come.

OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 snip
Ted Kennedy's smiling down on us all.
  
   Ted Kennedy is royally pissed because Obama sacrificed
   the public option (while pretending to still be for it).
 
  It is WAY better than any Public Option. It insures millions
  more, and in time will cover anyone currently not covered.

 Oopsie, you need to read up on what the public option would
 have involved:


I know what the Public Option is. But like I said in the post (try
reading next time) -- Quote: This bill is WAY better than any Public
Option. It insures millions more, and in time will cover anyone
currently not covered. It is now illegal for people to not have
coverage, but just like in the past, the Democrats made it illegal for
hospitals to refuse someone, and so local, state, and federal funding
HAD to cover the treatment costs. As it should be. NOW everyone who is
not insured has to have insurance, but THEY do not have to pay a penny
if they cannot afford it - it is subsidized by the tax payers now.

Those who can afford it, but do not want health insurance of any kind
(like Willyltex for example, if he was ever self-employed), it will
simply be like a tiny insignificant tax on them that they won't even
notice, and they will have to put up or shut up, just like in Britain.
And the British like their system, and the health insurance tax (which
is seperated out on payroll checks) is the LAST thing they would
complain about on their paycheck deductions.

I saw this is what Obama was doing a long time ago, and these rules will
never be repealed, even if Republicans gain in the Fall --- which they
won't.

This is a GREAT day for America. This is a watershed moment for
America, and due to its influence, for the world. The Neocons and
Fundies are dead in the water. Change has come.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jst...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
   snip
  Ted Kennedy's smiling down on us all.

 Ted Kennedy is royally pissed because Obama sacrificed
 the public option (while pretending to still be for it).
   
It is WAY better than any Public Option. It insures millions
more, and in time will cover anyone currently not covered.
  
   Oopsie, you need to read up on what the public option would
   have involved:
 
  I know what the Public Option is. But like I said in the
  post (try reading next time) -- Quote:

 I read what you said. All that would have been the same
 with the public option, except that there would have been
 the *additional* component of competition with the private
 insurance companies to bring down premiums and increase
 benefits. To say the current bill is better than the
 public option makes no sense; it's like saying a car
 without brakes is better than a set of brakes.

I can assure you, it is a much better option. A public option would not
have worked to bring down insurance costs unless you pumped tons of
taxpayer money into it. Now what you have is restraints on insurance
companies, which will slowly translate into less of the rampant use of
needless costly technologies, and eventually the big pharma will have to
get more reasonable in pricing to get the larger mareket that is now out
there - (eg. millions more insured and therefore able to pay for
medicines and treatments.)

It will be the market that decides, and that means, an insurance company
will compete with lower rates, but work with and doctors who are more
careful about giving expensive unneccessary treatments - that in the
past made them money (like MRI scans for someone with an upset stomache
-- seriously, they tried to give it to a friend of mine who simple had
some acidity in her stomache. And the doctors make money from that, and
the MRI manufactureres and the politicians too. ) Now the focus will not
be on getting the most expensive charges to a smaller pool of people.
Now the inseentive will be to gain as much of the client base as
possible -- which will eventually be a potential 300 million paying
customers -- all of whom can pay due to required insurance.

Now, an insurance company will start to offer lower rates because
EVERYONE has to get insured, and they want to capture as much of that
market as possible, and encourage the use of doctors who are not in that
money-vice, and prices will go down.

But fret not, there is a bill in congress now, to let anyone buy into
Medicare. Get the word out. Alan Grayson is the sponsor.

The change has come.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush speechwriter David Frum: This is GOP’s Waterloo

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

The blame can be squarley blamed on religion. The religious
fundamentalists destroyed the Republican party -- it goes way back to
Billy Graham's influence over them in the 1960's. A close friend of the
Bush's, and Reagan, and Nixon.

Christian fundamentalism on the one side, and outright greed on the
other, destroyed the Republican party.

OffWorld




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , do.rflex do.rf...@...
wrote:


 Waterloo

 by David Frum http://www.frumforum.com/davidfrum
http://www.frumforum.com/davidfrum 

 Conservatives and Republicans today suffered their most
crushing
 legislative defeat since the 1960s.

 It's hard to exaggerate the magnitude of the disaster. Conservatives
 may cheer themselves that they'll compensate for today's
 expected vote with a big win in the November 2010 elections. But:

 (1) It's a good bet that conservatives are over-optimistic about
 November – by then the economy will have improved and the
immediate
 goodies in the healthcare bill will be reaching key voting blocs.

 (2) So what? Legislative majorities come and go. This healthcare bill
is
 forever. A win in November is very poor compensation for this debacle
 now.

 So far, I think a lot of conservatives will agree with me. Now comes
the
 hard lesson:

 A huge part of the blame for today's disaster attaches to
 conservatives and Republicans ourselves.

 At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike,
 say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut,
 we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no
 compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be
 Obama's Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton's in 1994.

 Only, the hardliners overlooked a few key facts: Obama was elected
with
 53% of the vote, not Clinton's 42%. The liberal block within the
 Democratic congressional caucus is bigger and stronger than it was in
 1993-94. And of course the Democrats also remember their history, and
 also remember the consequences of their 1994 failure.

 This time, when we went for all the marbles, we ended with none.

 Could a deal have been reached? Who knows? But we do know that the gap
 between this plan and traditional Republican ideas is not very big.
The
 Obama plan has a broad family resemblance to Mitt Romney's
 Massachusetts plan. It builds on ideas developed at the Heritage
 Foundation in the early 1990s that formed the basis for Republican
 counter-proposals to Clintoncare in 1993-1994.

 Barack Obama badly wanted Republican votes for his plan. Could we have
 leveraged his desire to align the plan more closely with conservative
 views? To finance it without redistributive taxes on productive
 enterprise – without weighing so heavily on small business –
 without expanding Medicaid? Too late now. They are all the law.

 No illusions please: This bill will not be repealed. Even if
Republicans
 scored a 1994 style landslide in November, how many votes could we
 muster to re-open the doughnut hole and charge seniors more
 for prescription drugs? How many votes to re-allow insurers to rescind
 policies when they discover a pre-existing condition? How many votes
to
 banish 25 year olds from their parents' insurance coverage? And even
 if the votes were there – would President Obama sign such a
repeal?

 We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and
 they led us to abject and irreversible defeat.

 There were leaders who knew better, who would have liked to deal. But
 they were trapped. Conservative talkers on Fox and talk radio had
 whipped the Republican voting base into such a frenzy that deal-making
 was rendered impossible. How do you negotiate with somebody who wants
to
 murder your grandmother? Or – more exactly – with somebody
whom
 your voters have been persuaded to believe wants to murder their
 grandmother?

 I've been on a soapbox for months now about the harm that our
 overheated talk is doing to us. Yes it mobilizes supporters – but
by
 mobilizing them with hysterical accusations and pseudo-information,
 overheated talk has made it impossible for representatives to
represent
 and elected leaders to lead.


 The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different
 imperatives from people in government. Talk radio thrives on
 confrontation and recrimination. When Rush Limbaugh said that he
wanted
 President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own
 interests.


 What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he
 also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they
 govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out
 of office – Rush's listeners get less angry. And if they are
 less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for
 Sleepnumber beds.

 So today's defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is
 a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote:

 off_world_beings wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  snip
 
  It looks like we voted for the right man for the job when we voted
  for Obama. Super-big high-five to the O-man.
 
  Ted Kennedy's smiling down on us all.
 
  Ted Kennedy is royally pissed because Obama sacrificed
  the public option (while pretending to still be for it).
 
 
  It is WAY better than any Public Option. It insures millions more,
and
  in time will cover anyone currently not covered. It is now illegal
for
  people to not have coverage, but just like in the past, the
Democrats
  made it illegal for hospitals to refuse someone, and so local,
state,
  and federal funding HAD to cover the treatment costs. As it should
be.
  NOW everyone who is not insured has to have insurance, but THEY do
not
  have to pay a penny if they cannot afford it - it is subsidized by
the
  tax payers now.
 
  Those who can afford it, but do not want health insurance of any
kind
  (like Willyltex for example, if he was ever self-employed), it will
  simply be like a tiny insignificant tax on them that they won't even
  notice, and they will have to put up or shut up, just like in
Britain.
  And the British like their system, and the health insurance tax
(which
  is seperated out on payroll checks) is the LAST thing they would
  complain about on their paycheck deductions.
 
  I saw this is what Obama was doing a long time ago, and these rules
will
  never be repealed, even if Republicans gain in the Fall --- which
they
  won't.
 
  This is a GREAT day for America. This is a watershed moment for
America,
  and due to its influence, for the world. The Neocons and Fundies are
  dead in the water. Change has come.
 
  OffWorld

 I think health insurance should be like car insurance: if you use
 alternative and preventative medicine to keep yourself healthy you
 should get a tremendous break on your bill.  You get one for being a
 safe driver on auto insurance so why not health insurance?  The
problem
 would be the way the dumbed down way health insurance companies
measure
 things.  But the health insurance companies are crooks anyway and need
 to be regulated out of business or just provide premium care for the
 elite.

 And we need to get the AMA out formula too.  Let's help people who may
 not come from a line of doctors become one if they are interested.
 Groups like the AMA lobby to keep the entrants into medical schools
down
 so the cost of medicine is high.  Let's expose this fraud.   There are
 all kinds of things that could be done to reduce the cost of health
 care.  But dummies with health care benefits from work run to the
doctor
 if they even have the sniffles.   People need to learn that is not
what
 it is for.

Nah, just have it for everyone like in Britain, top notch doctors from
all over the world come to work there, tax junk food and poisons like
alcohol, and put that money back into healthcare, and spend it on
education about health.
Europe does this, and they are healthier and better educated than
Americans overall (mind you, you guys have the dead weight of the
brainless Southerners skewing the stats.)

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
mainstream20...@... wrote:


 Whoa, Off. This bill is a necessary small step in the right direction,
not in
 itself an admirable bill. All of inefficient stake holders in the
health care
 industry are boosted by this bill. Private health insurance companies,
 exhorbitantly-priced pharmaceuticals, for-profit and non-profits who
act as
 for-profit hospitals and health care personell will all see a boost
from this
 bill.
 The inefficiencies and profit motivation of the private health
insurance
 industry are still in place, despite this bill. How is that admirable,
when 40%
 of health insurance premiums will still go to profits and
administrative
 overhead.
 Had I not been paying attention to the issue for the past decade and
was
 presented today's headlines and stories on the bill, I'd have thought
the
 Republicans sponsored the bill, because this bill favors the
Republican party's
 interests.
 Hopefully, this bill is a small step toward a single-payer healthcare
system
 which hopefully will be funded by the top 15% of the U.S. population
who've
 disproportionately benefitted most over the past 30 years.
 The Republicans, normally loathe to advocate for tax increases, will
now
 advocate FOR a national sales tax, which as a regressive tax would
place a
 greater burden on low-income and middle-class taxpayers. Charles
Krauthammer, a
 conservative columnist, today proposed a national sales tax to pay for
 healthcare costs. Republicans represent the wealthiest among us, and
they will
 begin to advocate for a national sales tax, to divert attention away
from any move toward re-establishing a progressive tax system.
 -Mainstream

As I said, this about way more than the health care bill. Now Obama
knows he can win on seemingly impossible issues, and the Republicans
know that they cannot use their stupid tea-bagger tactics to win
anything.

The party of NO is dead.

They have to play along now, or risk everything. They are squirming with
pain inside because they do not know what to do now.

This is a watershed moment for America, and for the world. I feel sorry
for those people who are not able to celebrate this momentous change in
the status quo that IS FAR MORE than just the healtcare bill.

You will look back and wish you celebrated this day.

Change has come.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jst...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , authfriend jstein@
  wrote:
 snip
   I read what you said. All that would have been the same
   with the public option, except that there would have been
   the *additional* component of competition with the private
   insurance companies to bring down premiums and increase
   benefits. To say the current bill is better than the
   public option makes no sense; it's like saying a car
   without brakes is better than a set of brakes.
 
  I can assure you, it is a much better option.

 One more time: The options were (a) the current bill but
 with a public option, and (b) the identical bill except
 with no public option.

 We got (b).


WRONG. This was just a first stage. There are more bills in congress
right now with public options and have as much chance of passing under
another name. And your assumption that this means the Republicans will
win more in the Fall is wrong also. They will loose more. The ones that
will survive are those that break out of the party of no. The guy from
massachussttes for example is now about to be raked over the coals in
the coming months, he won't know what hit him. He is a naive fool. He
will be more democratic than most democrats, and will be walking around
with his tail between his legs. He is finished due to buying into the
party of no.

This is a GREAT day for America. I feel sorry for Americans that are not
celebrating this day. You will look back and wish you did. Days like
this do not come very often. This is a watershed moment for America, and
due to its influence, for the world. The Neocons and Fundies are dead in
the water. Change has come.

OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016
mainstream20...@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@
   wrote:
  snip
I read what you said. All that would have been the same
with the public option, except that there would have been
the *additional* component of competition with the private
insurance companies to bring down premiums and increase
benefits. To say the current bill is better than the
public option makes no sense; it's like saying a car
without brakes is better than a set of brakes.
  
   I can assure you, it is a much better option.
 
  One more time: The options were (a) the current bill but
  with a public option, and (b) the identical bill except
  with no public option.
 
  We got (b).


 Your logic assumes the (a) version (with the public option), was
acceptable to
 the Senate. It was not. Perhaps your hero Hillary would have insisted
on the
 (a) version, but she would have failed insisting on it, similar to her
failures
 on the health care issue in 1994. Obama is head and shoulders above
everyone,
 in intellect and temperament. Thank God he beat Hillary.

Absolutely. Amen to that. Hillary is old school, and cannot break out of
that.

Obama is the future, and a role model for millions now.

Thank God !... as you say !

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

 Where I come from, when one issues a challenge, and then backs down
from it, they're yella.

So you are saying that Shemp has a huge yellow slimy streak down his
back are you?

Well, that's a bit harsh on your part, but its hard to argue with your
assesment there.

OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

Ron Paul is a complete idiot and liar.
He says one thing to Fox News and another to CNN.
His only re-deeming virtue is his anti-war stance, his fight to end the
war on drugs, his stance to close Guantanomo, his stance supporting gay
marriage, and a couple of other things.
On abortion and climate change he is either an idiot or a liar.

PS. The socialist health care system in Britain is FAR better than yours
in every way. Top notch doctors from all over the world. Even American
doctors are going there in droves now. You are getting a brain drain
from America.

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:



 off:
  You will look back and wish you celebrated this day...
 
 Ron Paul thinks that health care run by the state is a
 bad idea because the government takes away the money of
 tax payers, so that those without money can have health
 care.

 It's wrong and unconstitutional - nowhere in the U.S
 Constitution does it say that the federal government
 should take my money and give it to someone else to pay
 for their health care expenses. It's my money! Taking
 my money away from me without my consent is illegal.

 It is not a good idea for those who pay taxes to get
 the same treatment as those who do not pay any tax.
 That's really an unfair idea. Everyone should work and
 make good money, so they can pay for their own care.

 The only way this is going to happen is more jobs, for
 more people; less government and government spending;
 and bringing down the high cost of health care. There
 is no other way except to put people to work and
 balance the federal budget.

 Even an idiot can see that there will soon be more
 old people in the system, instead of more younger
 people paying in. It's yer basic 'Ponzi Scheme', just
 like Social Security.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The health care meltdown

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:



   If you have a group insurance policy through
   work, you'll pay the same rate as everyone
   else in your demographic group (age and gender)
   whether you are sick as a dog or as healthy as
   Superman...
  
 Bhairitu:
  When I went off the COBRA and called the insurance
  company to set up a new policy the agent mentioned
  something about being overweight...
 
 Are you thinking that on a government insurance plan,
 they won't be telling you what you can eat or not?

British eat what they want you dumbass. but poisoning them is illegal.

 Or,
 how much weight you'll have to lose in order to
 qualify for a health insurance plan?

Nope. British obese are all cared for and rehabilitated you dumbass.


 The government is  already telling you what you can
 use to heal yourself, and it doesn't include vitamins
 you buy at grocery stores. 

TM and Ayurved can be gottn for free in Britain if a doctor prescribes
it you dumbass.


 We need less government regulation, not more! 

We need to regulate Texas out of existence.

If you
 fail to pay, the IRS will come after you - you've got
 no choice now - it's pay up or pay a fine.

Lol, not true. You'll get a tiny amount taken off your tax refund that
you won't even notice. Pay up or shut up.

 Getting
 the federal government to run your health care system
 is a really bad idea, according to Ron Paul.

Ron Paul wants the sick to use charity. People don't accept charity, it
is degrading to them. So you will spread diseases because no-one will go
to the hospital if it is charity.

 With the federal government running the program, you
 can say goodbye to your individual freedom to eat
 whatever and how much you want

Nope. Except corporations will not be allowed to poison you.

 Or, think about it - you're going to have to pay for
 other people's health insurance, even if they insist
 on killing themselves with unhealthy living?

Minor expense -- like giving up a cup of coffee per month -- and a small
inconvenience for the masses. We have broad shoulders, unlike the
Neocons. We can put more tax alcohol for example to pay for the
alcoholically poisoned and care and educate them and the children about
the dangers, and tax food that makes people obese to pay for the
treatment and education of the obese, and teach the children. Works fine
in Europe. And people are healthier as a result.

You loose Willytex. Your time is over. Welcome to the 21st century.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Lurker tries to have an intelligent thought.

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

 Off, I recommend that you keep posting furiously so that you hit 51,
and then go on hiatus, and when you return maybe everyone will have
forgotten who it was that conceded.

May I suggest to you Lurker, that you try having an intelligent thought
one day...then post it on FFL.

OffWorld




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   Where I come from, when one issues a challenge, and then backs
down
  from it, they're yella.
 
  So you are saying that Shemp has a huge yellow slimy streak down his
  back are you?
 
  Well, that's a bit harsh on your part, but its hard to argue with
your
  assesment there.
 
  OffWorld
 





[FairfieldLife] Congratulations America ! ! !

2010-03-22 Thread off_world_beings

In the words of Winston Churchill: We can always count on the Americans
to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all the other
possibilities.

Congratulations America on pushing back the dark-ages and bringing in
the light. ! ! ! Today is an auspicious day ! Obama rocks !

Change has come.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans ------- Was////The bet is on:

2010-03-21 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to
sign
some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since
an
anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has
  ever
made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not
possible.
   
Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of
  birth.
   
  
  
  
   Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of
my
  passport, driver's license, etc.  
 
  So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored.


No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a
bet. Everyone knows this.

You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp.

Send your information to:

Brian Schumaker
Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350
Providence, Rhode Island 2902

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Should we feel sorry for Shemp?

2010-03-21 Thread off_world_beings

As Shemp decends into his depressed and lonely state again, I encourage
all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support
him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and
anguish that he is entering.

He may be an idot, but he is still half-human.

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 He seems to have disappeared.

 Gee, I wonder why?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings
no_reply@
   wrote:


 I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need
to sign
 some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since
an
 anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one
has
   ever
 made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its
not
 possible.

 Please post your name and reliable address, town and country
of
   birth.

   
   
   
Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy
of my
   passport, driver's license, etc. 
  
   So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored.
 
 
 
 
  I am more than happy to put it forward to your attorney.
 
  Why should I put it up here? It has absolutely nothing to do with
the bet!
 
  Methinks you are using this as an excuse to get out of the bet
because:
 
  1) You're a wimp;
 
  2) You know you'd lose;
 
  3) You're a coward;
 
  4) You're a welcher.
 
  Aren't you a man of your word?
 
  Aren't you a man of your convictions?
 
  Again, please email me with the name, address, and phone number of
your attorney and let's get this bet going!
 
  Did you by any chance want to increase the stakes to, say, $100,000?
 
 
 
 
   No-one talks
   to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet.
Everyone
   knows this.
  
   You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp.
  
   PS. I'm not a Christian.
  
   OffWorld
  
 
 
  Quite right.
 
  Christians aren't supposed to welch on bets.
 





[FairfieldLife] Should we feel sorry for Shemp?

2010-03-21 Thread off_world_beings

As Shemp decends into his depressed and lonely state again, I encourage
all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt, and support
him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of depression and
anguish that he is entering.

He may be an idiot, but he is still half-human.

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 He seems to have disappeared.

 Gee, I wonder why?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings
no_reply@
   wrote:


 I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need
to sign
 some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since
an
 anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one
has
   ever
 made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its
not
 possible.

 Please post your name and reliable address, town and country
of
   birth.

   
   
   
Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy
of my
   passport, driver's license, etc. 
  
   So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored.
 
 
 
 
  I am more than happy to put it forward to your attorney.
 
  Why should I put it up here? It has absolutely nothing to do with
the bet!
 
  Methinks you are using this as an excuse to get out of the bet
because:
 
  1) You're a wimp;
 
  2) You know you'd lose;
 
  3) You're a coward;
 
  4) You're a welcher.
 
  Aren't you a man of your word?
 
  Aren't you a man of your convictions?
 
  Again, please email me with the name, address, and phone number of
your attorney and let's get this bet going!
 
  Did you by any chance want to increase the stakes to, say, $100,000?
 
 
 
 
   No-one talks
   to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet.
Everyone
   knows this.
  
   You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp.
  
   PS. I'm not a Christian.
  
   OffWorld
  
 
 
  Quite right.
 
  Christians aren't supposed to welch on bets.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Healthcare. Have you Septic Tanks gone civilised?

2010-03-21 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor uns_tres...@...
wrote:

 Zippa dee doo dah. We did it in the late '40s.

 But this is a major opportunity for TM which is a very
 cost effective remedy for dozens of ailments which
 are expensive when treated conventionally. Will our
 people be asleep at the wheel? They are pretty
 challenged in the marketing department.
 Uns. (Speaking smugly from the British Isles).


So how do you like the National Health in Britain? How many people or
companies in Britain go bankrupt due to unable to pay medical bills? How
many people are refused health care due to denial by the National Health
Insurance? And how do you feel that your health system costs the British
taxpayer half of what the US system costs the US taxpayer?

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans

2010-03-21 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings
no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need
to
  sign
  some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet,
since
  an
  anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one
has
ever
  made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its
not
  possible.
 
  Please post your name and reliable address, town and country
of
birth.
 



 Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a
copy of
  my
passport, driver's license, etc. 
   
So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored.
  
 
  No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make
a
  bet. Everyone knows this.
 
  You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp.
 
  Send your information to:
 
  Brian Schumaker
  Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350
  Providence, Rhode Island 2902
 
  OffWorld
 


 1) Please provide a proper address. Zip codes in the United States
have a minimum of 5 digits, not 4 as you have above.

 2) I went to the Rhode Island Bar Association web site and there is no
listing for an attorney named Brian Schumaker:

 https://www.ribar.com/Members/Directory/Default.aspx

 What kind of scam are you trying to pull? It was YOU who brought up
the idea of forwarding my personal information to YOUR attorney; I
agreed. And now this: a non-existent attorney in a state hundreds of
miles away from where you live in northern Vermont.

 Don't you have a attorney in the state where you actually LIVE
Again, for the third time, what is the name, phone number, and address
of your attoreny, please. Do you not have a LEGITIMATE attorney?

 Please don't play head games with me and waste my time.

 3) You didn't tell me whether you were willing to up the bet to
$100,000.



No-one makes bets with anonymous parasites. Everyone knows that. No bet
has ever been made with an anonymous leech. Its not possible.

So as Shemp decends into his mental insanity and frenetic gasping again,
I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the doubt,
and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of
depression and anguish that he is entering.

He may be an anonymous leech on FFL, but he is still a barely conscious
being.

Show some compassion people.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] The Win.

2010-03-21 Thread off_world_beings

Summoned to success by President Barack Obama, the
Democratic-controlled Congress approved historic legislation Sunday
night extending health care to tens of millions of uninsured Americans
and cracking down on insurance company abuses, a climactic chapter in
the century-long quest for near universal coverage.

Widely viewed as dead two months ago, the Senate-passed bill cleared
the House on a 219-212 vote, with Republicans unanimous in opposition.

Congressional officials said they expected Obama to sign the bill as
early as Tuesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_health_care_overhaul

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans

2010-03-21 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:


 Off, I love you like a brother, but the mis-direction isn't working

What are you raving on about now?

OffWorld



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk
 shempmcgurk@
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings
 no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk
  shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings
  no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll
 need
  to
sign
some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet,
  since
an
anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and
 no-one
  has
  ever
made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets.
 Its
  not
possible.
   
Please post your name and reliable address, town and
 country
  of
  birth.
   
  
  
  
   Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a
  copy of
my
  passport, driver's license, etc. 
 
  So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored.

   
No-one talks to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to
 make
  a
bet. Everyone knows this.
   
You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp.
   
Send your information to:
   
Brian Schumaker
Colby Sound Building, Suite 1350
Providence, Rhode Island 2902
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   1) Please provide a proper address. Zip codes in the United States
  have a minimum of 5 digits, not 4 as you have above.
  
   2) I went to the Rhode Island Bar Association web site and there
is
 no
  listing for an attorney named Brian Schumaker:
  
   https://www.ribar.com/Members/Directory/Default.aspx
  
   What kind of scam are you trying to pull? It was YOU who brought
up
  the idea of forwarding my personal information to YOUR attorney; I
  agreed. And now this: a non-existent attorney in a state hundreds of
  miles away from where you live in northern Vermont.
  
   Don't you have a attorney in the state where you actually LIVE
  Again, for the third time, what is the name, phone number, and
address
  of your attoreny, please. Do you not have a LEGITIMATE attorney?
  
   Please don't play head games with me and waste my time.
  
   3) You didn't tell me whether you were willing to up the bet to
  $100,000.
  
 
 
  No-one makes bets with anonymous parasites. Everyone knows that. No
 bet
  has ever been made with an anonymous leech. Its not possible.
 
  So as Shemp decends into his mental insanity and frenetic gasping
 again,
  I encourage all FFL'rs to pep him up, give him the benifit of the
 doubt,
  and support him in his mental turmoil during the coming time of
  depression and anguish that he is entering.
 
  He may be an anonymous leech on FFL, but he is still a barely
 conscious
  being.
 
  Show some compassion people.
 
  OffWorld
 





[FairfieldLife] Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans ------- Was////The bet is on:

2010-03-20 Thread off_world_beings

I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign
some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an
anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has ever
made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not
possible.

Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of birth.

That way people can treat you as a human who is then capapble of making
a bet. As of now, you are just an anonymous leech, sucking cyber-blood
on the internet.

Let me know when you become human, then you would be considred credible
enough to make a bet.

OffWorld



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:



 [snip]



  
I REALLY hope that RP will be the next Republican candidate.
He'll
  be
awesome, but he will be too busy agreeing with Obama on
everything,
  to
be able to win.
   
OFF-WORLD PREDICTION:   YOU will hear Ron Paul in an interview
in
  the
next 6 months saying that something needs to be done about the
  danger of
Climate Change.
   
Make a date. Put it in your diary. You WILL hear it right here,
  within 6
months.
   
  
  
   Are you a betting man?
  
   We could send the money to Rick Archer to hold.
  
   Let me know...
 
  Name your price?
 


 $50,000.00.

 Who is your lawyer and at what phone number and address may I contact
him?




  My lawyer will issue you some papers to sign to make sure you don't
try
  to get out of it, since I don't trust you.
 
  OffWorld
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Anonymous leeches can't bet with humans ------- Was////The bet is on:

2010-03-20 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  I'll need your name and a permanent address, and you'll need to sign
  some papers from my lawyer before you can make this bet, since an
  anonymous person is not a person, but a parasite, and no-one has
ever
  made a bet with a parasite. Parasites cannot make bets. Its not
  possible.
 
  Please post your name and reliable address, town and country of
birth.
 



 Your lawyer will get ALL of that information, along with a copy of my
passport, driver's license, etc.  

So put up your name then coward, or you'll just be ignored. No-one talks
to parasites, and it is impossible for a leech to make a bet. Everyone
knows this.

You already lostagain. You are not smart enough Shemp.

PS. I'm not a Christian.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Russia to drill for oil off the Gulf of Mexico!!

2010-03-19 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , BillyG wg...@... wrote:

 They ain't stupid that's for sure, they must be laughing all the way
to the bank at all the Environmental purest wackos in the USA, (and
Hollywood).


http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to\
-moscow/
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-t\
o-moscow/



So ? Phillipinos clean your toilets, and you don' complain about that.

I suppose rather than a Russian company drilling  you would prefer to
have Chevron-Texaco do it, who are ACTUAL traitors to the USA.

OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Re: Shemp and Alex prove Ron Paul is a liar.

2010-03-19 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  So what have you proven big guy?
  That Ron Paul is a jerk and idiot on some issues??
 


 What I have demonstrated is that you are not to be trusted when you
write something here on this forum.



  You are right, he is an idiot on some issues as I have said many
times,
  just like his pretense of being anti-abortion, he is an obvious
flake,
  and a flip=flopper, and you have proven that.
 



 What took me an inordinate amount of energy to demonstrate to you that
you had it wrong shouldn't have.

 Here you are finally admitting you had it wrong when you could have
done it after the first, obvious instance of pointing it out to you.

 You've wasted my time, Alex's time, and everyone else on this forum
who have bothered to read these posts (and I suspect that many didn't
bother, thankfully).




  He makes John Kerry look like a solid stalwart King of the
  ImmovableStupa. ( I threw that in for Cardemeister to go to work and
  figure some stuff out, instead of sitting around doing squat.)
 
  You are finally waking up to the fact that Ron Paul is a chancer and
a
  player.
 
  But the fact is, that Ron Paul is still the best YOU Republicans
have
  for a leader.



 I am not now nor have I ever been a Republican.  You'd know that if
you read my posts.



 
  However,  Obama is far more of a world leader, modern man, and an
usher
  of the future, than any Republican will ever be.
 
  Thank god we have Obama and not Ron Paul.
 



 That's a reflection on those that, fanatically, supported and endorsed
Ron Paul.

 Gee, I wonder who on this forum fits such a description?



  I REALLY hope that RP will be the next Republican candidate. He'll
be
  awesome, but he will be too busy agreeing with Obama on everything,
to
  be able to win.
 
  OFF-WORLD PREDICTION:   YOU will hear Ron Paul in an interview in
the
  next 6 months saying that something needs to be done about the
danger of
  Climate Change.
 
  Make a date. Put it in your diary. You WILL hear it right here,
within 6
  months.
 


 Are you a betting man?

 We could send the money to Rick Archer to hold.

 Let me know...

Name your price?

My lawyer will issue you some papers to sign to make sure you don't try
to get out of it, since I don't trust you.

OffWorld







[FairfieldLife] Re: Quartet calls for Palestinian state within two years

2010-03-19 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , do.rflex do.rf...@...
wrote:



HAARETZ Newspaper in Israel - The Quartet, which comprises members
from Russia, the United States, the UN and the European Union, called
Israel and the Palestinians to renew peace negotiations in order to
achieve a two-state solution within 24 months. 

Excellent news.

OffWorld



The members met in Moscow on Friday in an effort to defuse the latest
crisis in peace efforts between Israel and the Palestinians.

 The Quartet believes these negotiations should lead to a settlement,
 negotiated between the parties within 24 months, that ends the
 occupation that began in 1967 and results in the emergence of an
 independent, democratic and viable Palestinian state living side by
side in peace and security with Israel and its other neighbors, said a
joint statement read by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

 The Quartet reiterates that Arab-Israeli peace and the establishment
of a peaceful state of Palestine in the West Bank and Gaza is in the
 fundamental interest of the parties, of all states in the region, and
of the international community, said the statement. In this regard the
Quartet calls on all states to support dialogues between the parties.

 The mediators also called on Israel following their meeting to freeze
 all settlement activities and denounced its recent decision to approve
 construction of 1.600 new homes in East Jerusalem.

 The Quartet urges the government of Israel to freeze all settlement
 activities ... and to refrain from demolitions and evictions,
according to the statement read by Ban. The statement also condemned
Israel's approval of the construction in East Jerusalem.

 At the start of the talks, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov
said: All of us today hope to arrive at some common conclusions which
will help to promote the beginning of a dialogue between the two sides.

 U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, in Moscow, discussed steps to
 improve the outlook for Israeli-Palestinian peace by telephone with
 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Thursday.

 Netanyahu's spokesman Nir Chefetz said the Israeli leader had proposed
 some mutual confidence-building steps that both Israel and the
 Palestinians could take in the West Bank. He declined to spell these
out.

 Clinton met her Russian counterpart Lavrov, UN Secretary General Ban
 Ki-moon, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton and Quartet
 Representative Tony Blair over a closed dinner on Thursday evening
 before Friday's formal meeting.

 No details of that meeting were disclosed.

 We intend to have a very broad-ranging discussion with our Quartet
 partners, Clinton said at a joint news conference with Lavrov on
 Thursday. Our goals remain the same. It is to re-launch negotiations
 between the Israelis and the Palestinians on a path that will lead to
a two-state solution.

 The Quartet was formed in 2002 in Spain to assist in mediating an end
to escalating violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It last met
on the margins of the UN General Assembly in September.

 But its results so far have been meagre, leading some analysts to
 dismiss it as an expensive club for diplomats.

 Moscow had originally hoped to organise a full-scale international
 conference on the Middle East this year but the lack of progress on
 Israeli-Palestinian peace talks has forced Russia to settle instead
for hosting a quartet meeting.

 Biden: East Jerusalem decision designed to undermine peace process

 Meanwhile, U.S. Vice President Joe Biden has called Israel's decision
to approve 1,600 new homes in East Jerusalem week provocative, adding
that it was obviously designed by some in Israel to undermine a peace
process George Mitchell finally got - our negotiator - finally got back
on track.

 In an interview with ABC's Nightline which will air on Friday night,
 Biden reiterated that Israel's security is undeniably in our interest
 to make sure it is absolutely secure and Washington and Jerusalem to
 get over the recent tensions that flared in response to the
announcement.

 And so the message is: We've got to get over this, Biden said.
 Granted, I condemn the announcement made by that planning council.
 ...The irony is even that planning council acknowledging not a single
new unit can be built at least for a year and maybe never will be built,
it was provocative.

 The Interior Ministry's decision was made public during Biden's visit
to Israel last week, a move the United States termed an insult as it
came amid U.S. efforts to see Middle East peace negotiations renewed.

 In the interview, Biden denied reports that he had told Prime Minister
 Benjamin Netanyahu that Israel's policy on settlements puts U.S.
troops at risk.

 No, I never said that, Biden told ABC

 ---UPDATED:

 [Hard right-winger Avigdor] Lieberman on Quartet call: You can't
makeartificial peace

FOREIGN Minister Avigdor Lieberman responded Friday to the 

[FairfieldLife] Shemp and Alex prove Ron Paul is a liar.

2010-03-18 Thread off_world_beings

So what have you proven big guy?
That Ron Paul is a jerk and idiot on some issues??

You are right, he is an idiot on some issues as I have said many times,
just like his pretense of being anti-abortion, he is an obvious flake,
and a flip=flopper, and you have proven that.

He makes John Kerry look like a solid stalwart King of the
ImmovableStupa. ( I threw that in for Cardemeister to go to work and
figure some stuff out, instead of sitting around doing squat.)

You are finally waking up to the fact that Ron Paul is a chancer and a
player.

But the fact is, that Ron Paul is still the best YOU Republicans have
for a leader.

However,  Obama is far more of a world leader, modern man, and an usher
of the future, than any Republican will ever be.

Thank god we have Obama and not Ron Paul.

I REALLY hope that RP will be the next Republican candidate. He'll be
awesome, but he will be too busy agreeing with Obama on everything, to
be able to win.

OFF-WORLD PREDICTION:   YOU will hear Ron Paul in an interview in the
next 6 months saying that something needs to be done about the danger of
Climate Change.

Make a date. Put it in your diary. You WILL hear it right here, within 6
months.

OffWorld




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 Thank you, Alex, for taking the time to find this.  However, I don't
hold out much hope that it will do any good vis a vis convincing
Off_World that Paul's position is the opposite of Obama's.

 On many of the key, important issues I have, through quotes and
citations, tried to show Off that the two gentlemen are at opposite ends
of the political spectrum.

 I have been reading Ron Paul for years and admire him on many points
he makes.  I am almost completely opposed to what Barack Obama stands
for.  Yes, Paul and Obama agree on a few things, such as their
opposition to the Iraq War (although they come to it from the opposite
reasons).  But on practically everything else, they disagree.

 So it was with great irritation that I have to continually read Off
say that they are the same.

 Perhaps I am being too sensitive and should realize that most if not
all of the readers on this forum don't give him any credibility any way.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
Yawn.
   
All of the quotes below undated or from 2007.
   
Ron Paul's latest declarations on Global Warming?  As Off
already
   knows, Paul calls it a hoax:
   
The greatest hoax I think that has been around for many, many
years
   if not hundreds of years has been this hoax on [...] global
warming.
   – Ron Paul on Fox Business, Nov. 4, 2009
  
   Where's the transcript?
   This is not credible.
  
   OffWorld
  
 
 
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-11-04/ron-paul-on-fox-business-its-business-\
as-usual-in-washington/
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-11-04/ron-paul-on-fox-business-its-business\
-as-usual-in-washington/
 
  http://is.gd/aNcXa http://is.gd/aNcXa
 





[FairfieldLife] Scientists discover an Immortal Being.

2010-03-18 Thread off_world_beings

The world's only immortal being:

http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/26/the-world-s-only-immortal-\
animal.html
http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/26/the-world-s-only-immortal\
-animal.html

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul on Global Warming - Shemp still smarting from smackdown !

2010-03-17 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 Yawn.

 All of the quotes below undated or from 2007.

 Ron Paul's latest declarations on Global Warming?  As Off already
knows, Paul calls it a hoax:

 The greatest hoax I think that has been around for many, many years
if not hundreds of years has been this hoax on [...] global warming.
– Ron Paul on Fox Business, Nov. 4, 2009

Where's the transcript?
This is not credible.

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul on Global Warming - Shemp still smarting from smackdown !

2010-03-16 Thread off_world_beings
Ron Paul on Global Warming: Global temperatures have been warming
since the Little Ice Age.  Studies within the respectable scientific
community have shown that human beings are most likely a part of this
process.  snip I strongly oppose the Kyoto treaty.  Providing for a
clean environment is an excellent goal, but the Kyoto treaty doesn't do
that. Also, the regulations are harmful for American workers,
because it encourages corporations to move their business overseas to
countries where the regulations don't apply I am more than willing
to work cooperatively with other nations to come up with policies that
will safeguard the environment, but I oppose all nonbinding resolutions
that place an unnecessary burden on the United States.
When asked by Bill Maher if he thinks the Federal Government should be
involved in stopping Global Warming, Ron Paul replied:
Then you have to deal with the volcanoes, and you have to deal with
China... so what are you going to do, invade China so they don't
pollute?  ... But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't do what we can to
slow up the emissions and stop subsidizing big oil companies.  I don't
like subsidizing oil companies.  They've been doing that for years.  We
go to war to protect oil, so that we can buy more oil, and burn more
oil.  So I say our foreign policy contributes to global warming -- by
subsidizing a policy that is deeply flawed.  And that's why we're in the
Middle East, to protect oil interests.
When asked if efforts to slow down Global Warming should be increased,
Dr. Paul replied:

Yes.

Because he does not support any piece of legislation not specifically
authorized by the Constitution, Paul votes against most bills that
involve government spending or expanded government initiatives; thus he
does not seek legislation to combat the global warming.  Instead, he
advocates reducing emissions, halting subsidies to oil companies, and
altering a war-for-oil foreign policy that in itself contributes to
global warming.

http://pesn.com/2007/11/05/9500456_RonPaul_on_GlobalWarming/
http://pesn.com/2007/11/05/9500456_RonPaul_on_GlobalWarming/

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Umpires needed: Does this answer Shemp's questions?

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
 As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was
given the
Nobel
  Peace
 Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but
that
America
  gave him the
 White House based on:
 the same credentials.
 
  Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is it you
find to be
so
  objectionable about Obama's presidency so far?
 


 Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about Bush:
the
deficit.

 Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National Debt, the
United
States paid about $230 billion in interest on its National Debt.
That
represents about $700 per person per year.
   
That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the Bush
tax cuts
for the rich because of this scenario? That would have made this
figure
smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at avoiding
taxes by
all legal means, would hardly notice any significant difference
if those
tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid.
   
Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars, plus
he hid
the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
   
The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama had
the war
costs put on the books properly.
   
So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it.
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   Off, it's time for you to come clean on your false representations
on Ron Paul.
  
   You never responded to my previous posts on this subject.
  
   Time for you to come clean to me and everyone here. You can't keep
misrepresenting yourself without being called on it.
  
 
  I responded to your questionso on this many times, You never read
the responses, because you do not like facts. Go back and find the
responses yourself. I am not answering this AGAIN!
 
  OffWolrd
 


 No, you didn't.

 Your response to post #243274, in which I demonstrated to you that Ron
Paul's stance on embryonic stem cell research was the COMPLETE OPPOSITE
of what you represented it to be, didn't address anything.

 And where was your respone to post #243273 in which I demonstrated to
you that Ron Paul's position on two of today's biggest issues -- global
warming and abortion -- are completely opposite of what you believe?



Umpires needed. Shemp has completely gone off the rails. Does this below
answer Shemp's questions?

In answer to your poorly argued attention seeking BS, I already answered
them in these posts. You may not LIKE the answers (you NEVER will), but
I DID answer your dumbass questions.

Post 243282 - embryonic research

Wrong. He is against government funding of it. 

Post 243271 - Scientific evidence

They (he and Obama) are both for science over religious Neocon
fanaticism.

Post 243233 - Support for socialist healthcare:

Ron Paul is all about charities too. ie. Giving. He believes that
helping others comes naturally. He just doesn't understand that in an
age of ignorance, with ignoramouses such as you, there needs to be an
organized effort to help others in a way that the consensus in society
feels is best (rather than your ignorant inefficient ideas) --  and that
is called socialism. Socialism is the wave of the future.

Post 243241 - Ron Paul more like Obama than anybody (Like I explained to
you in the past Shemp, Ron Paul just doesn't KNOW that he is pretty much
the same. That is where Ron Paul fails. He, like Sarah Palin, DOESN'T
EVEN REALISE THAT HE IS PRO-CHOICE !He said it in interviews. He wants
no punishment for the woman or doctor. THAT IS PRO-CHOICE you MORON! )

Ron Paul was still in the running at the time. I supported Ron Paul
for leader of the Republican party because he was far better than all
those idiots and criminals that you supported Shemp. But you warmongers
pushed him out and smeared him, so that an old idiot warmonger could
shuffle around with some bimbo ,making complete fools of you and your
warmongering hateful ant-social archaic neandhethal friends Shemp. I was
the first on FFL life to support Obama for President. (and that fact
just makes you so mad doesn't it Shemp.) 

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul on Global Warming

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings
Ron Paul on Global Warming
The fringe candidate that has been taking the Internet by storm
measures his stance on global warming the same he does most all issues
-- by the U.S. Constitution.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Financial Crimes of GW Bush.

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , mainstream20016
mainstream20...@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
  
  
   Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars, plus
he hid
   the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
  
   The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama had
the war
   costs put on the books properly.
  
   OffWorld
  
 
 
  Your math doesn't make sense.
 
  Bush left office over a year ago.  If he left us with a national
debt of 11.3 trillion and you're saying that the current national debt
clock is 12.5 trillion, that's a difference of only 1.2 trillion
(despite the fact that the deficit is $1.6 trillion, not 1.2 trillion).
 
  So where are the hidden costs of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars if
Obama put the war costs on the books?  These costs didn't come with
revenue attached to them; they are expenses and would therefore be put
properly by Obama on the debt side of things.  I always hear that the
war in Iraq alone has cost $1 trillion.  If that's the case, the
national debt clock should be 13.5 trillion, not 12.5 trillion.
 

 Perhaps the national debt clock doesn't  include the Bush-era
(2003-2008) Iraq war costs; that would account for the lower figure.


That is correct.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Financial Crimes of GW Bush.

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:



 off:
  The Financial Crimes of GW Bush...
 
 Has George W. Bush been charged with any crimes?
 None that I know of 

Actually yes. If he, or Dick Cheney come to certain towns in Vemont, the
police are under orders to arrest them.

Also, some countries abroad will be required by their constitution and
legal structure to arrest them.

- was Bush in charge of the
 U.S. economy?

 So, how many years has it been since the United
 States experienced a terrorist attack on it's
 own soil? 

Less than a month.


 If the war cost us a trillion dollars, then I'd
 say it is worth it.

 But, I don't think that the President is very
 much responsible for state of the economy or the
 national debt. We live in a representative republic
 and it is our elected leaders that pass the laws
 and spend the money.

 You need to get some smarts:
 We want to bring down the national debt, but we
 must win the war before we can do that.

You can't win the war. It is un-winnable. Go and watch the British TV
version (6 parts) of what was later made into a very good, but inferior
version, in the Hollywood movie Traffic

The British version, also called Traffic will enlighten you as to the
nature of Afghanisthan. Available on Netflix. I highly recommend this
version to anyone reading this. It goes into much more of the opium
trade in Afghanisthan in the 1980's, and how the corruption runs deep to
turn that into money made from selling heroine to Western addicts (opium
in itself is really not so harmful.) You cannot stop it, unless you stop
the demand in your country. All of this is bound up with Taliban
financing, Al Quada control of the biggest source of income in the
middle east, and other mafia-like pseudo-muslim gangs in Pakistan.
(Opium biggest earner, outside of oil, and various countries getting
each 30 billion of dollars every year in military subsidies from USA)

As for Iraq, you merely helped to empower the Iranians, and cause the
Israelis to act irrationally by Condi Rice kicking the Syrians out of
Lebanon. They were keeping the lid on the violence in Lebanon. Israel
was then attacked by the emboldened Hezbolah (who were kept in check by
the Syrians), and Israel attacked back, weakening the region and setting
the peace prcess back decades.

You lost the region. But the 21st century will reclaim it, as well as
Texas for the future, not the neandhertals that have run those places
lately.

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul on Global Warming - repost with text this time

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings

It didn't show up, nor your reply Rick:
Repost below: If you don't see several paragraphs below, I will try
again:

Main Point: When asked if efforts to slow down Global Warming should be
increased, Dr. Paul replied:  Yes.

Ron Paul on Global Warming
The fringe candidate that has been taking the Internet by storm
measures his stance on global warming the same he does most all issues
-- by the U.S. Constitution.






[FairfieldLife] Ron Paul on Global Warming - Trying this again - stuff got cut off.

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings
Ron Paul on Global Warming A Plug for the Candidate by Sterling D. Allan
http://pureenergysystems.com/about/personnel/SterlingDAllan/index.html
Pure Energy Systems News: The fringe candidate that has been taking
the Internet by storm measures his stance on global warming the same he
does most all issues -- by the U.S. Constitution. Ron Paul on Global
Warming: Global temperatures have been warming since the Little Ice
Age.  Studies within the respectable scientific community have shown
that human beings are most likely a part of this process.  snip I
strongly oppose the Kyoto treaty.  Providing for a clean environment is
an excellent goal, but the Kyoto treaty doesn't do that. Also, the
regulations are harmful for American workers, because it encourages
corporations to move their business overseas to countries where the
regulations don't apply I am more than willing to work cooperatively
with other nations to come up with policies that will safeguard the
environment, but I oppose all nonbinding resolutions that place an
unnecessary burden on the United States.
When asked by Bill Maher if he thinks the Federal Government should be
involved in stopping Global Warming, Ron Paul replied:
Then you have to deal with the volcanoes, and you have to deal with
China... so what are you going to do, invade China so they don't
pollute?  ... But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't do what we can to
slow up the emissions and stop subsidizing big oil companies.  I don't
like subsidizing oil companies.  They've been doing that for years.  We
go to war to protect oil, so that we can buy more oil, and burn more
oil.  So I say our foreign policy contributes to global warming -- by
subsidizing a policy that is deeply flawed.  And that's why we're in the
Middle East, to protect oil interests.
When asked if efforts to slow down Global Warming should be increased,
Dr. Paul replied:

Yes.

Because he does not support any piece of legislation not specifically
authorized by the Constitution, Paul votes against most bills that
involve government spending or expanded government initiatives; thus he
does not seek legislation to combat the global warming.  Instead, he
advocates reducing emissions, halting subsidies to oil companies, and
altering a war-for-oil foreign policy that in itself contributes to
global warming.

http://pesn.com/2007/11/05/9500456_RonPaul_on_GlobalWarming/
http://pesn.com/2007/11/05/9500456_RonPaul_on_GlobalWarming/

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Umpires needed: Does this answer Shemp's questions?

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk
  shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk
  shempmcgurk@
wrote:
   As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was
  given the
  Nobel
Peace
   Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but
  that
  America
gave him the
   White House based on:
   the same credentials.
   
Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is it
you
  find to be
  so
objectionable about Obama's presidency so far?
   
  
  
   Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about
Bush:
  the
  deficit.
  
   Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National Debt,
the
  United
  States paid about $230 billion in interest on its National
Debt.
  That
  represents about $700 per person per year.
 
  That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the
Bush
  tax cuts
  for the rich because of this scenario? That would have made
this
  figure
  smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at
avoiding
  taxes by
  all legal means, would hardly notice any significant
difference
  if those
  tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid.
 
  Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars,
plus
  he hid
  the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
 
  The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama
had
  the war
  costs put on the books properly.
 
  So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it.
 
  OffWorld
 


 Off, it's time for you to come clean on your false
representations
  on Ron Paul.

 You never responded to my previous posts on this subject.

 Time for you to come clean to me and everyone here. You can't
keep
  misrepresenting yourself without being called on it.

   
I responded to your questionso on this many times, You never
read
  the responses, because you do not like facts. Go back and find the
  responses yourself. I am not answering this AGAIN!
   
OffWolrd
   
  
  
   No, you didn't.
  
   Your response to post #243274, in which I demonstrated to you that
Ron
  Paul's stance on embryonic stem cell research was the COMPLETE
OPPOSITE
  of what you represented it to be, didn't address anything.
  
   And where was your respone to post #243273 in which I demonstrated
to
  you that Ron Paul's position on two of today's biggest issues --
global
  warming and abortion -- are completely opposite of what you believe?
  
 
 
  Umpires needed. Shemp has completely gone off the rails. Does this
below
  answer Shemp's questions?
 
  In answer to your poorly argued attention seeking BS, I already
answered
  them in these posts. You may not LIKE the answers (you NEVER will),
but
  I DID answer your dumbass questions.
 
  Post 243282 - embryonic research
 
  Wrong. He is against government funding of it. 

 ...BUT THAT IS THE NEOCON'S POSITION!!

No they want it outlawed. Ron Paul is all for the scientific research.

 LOOK, THE WHOLE ISSUE ON EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH VIS A VIS THE
GOVERNMENT IS WHETHER THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORTS PROVIDING GOVERNMENT
FUNDS.  OBAMA IS FOR GIVING FUNDS FOR IT; THE NEOCONS AND RON PAUL ARE
AGAINST IT.


  Post 243271 - Scientific evidence
 
  They (he and Obama) are both for science over religious Neocon
  fanaticism.
 



 EVERYONE IS AGAINST FANATICISM BUT RON PAUL IS ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE
NEOCONS IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.



  Post 243233 - Support for socialist healthcare:
 
  Ron Paul is all about charities too. ie. Giving. He believes that
  helping others comes naturally. He just doesn't understand that in
an
  age of ignorance, with ignoramouses such as you, there needs to be
an
  organized effort to help others in a way that the consensus in
society
  feels is best (rather than your ignorant inefficient ideas) --  and
that
  is called socialism

[FairfieldLife] Re: Umpires needed: Does this answer Shemp's questions?

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings

Your link says nothing about which punishment he would give to doctors
or women, but in an interview he said he would not punish them.

Case closed.

He is pro-choice and he doesn't even know it. This is where he is weak,
and has not thought this issue through, although he is right on many
other issues, and on the one he holds most dear - anti-war.

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 If you are going to misrepresent Ron Paul's position on issues, such
as you do below with the abortion issue, AND AT THE SAME TIME CUT OUT
THE LINK I PROVIDED IN ORDER TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU MISREPRESENTED HIS
POSITION, I cannot continue this exercise:

 http://www.ontheissues.org/tx/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/tx/Ron_Paul_Abortion.htm

 Not only is your blatant misrepresentation dishonest, your elimination
of the link is, I believe, completely deceitful and lacking in
integrity.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
 As an American I am not so shocked that Obama
was
given the
Nobel
  Peace
 Prize without any accomplishments to his name,
but
that
America
  gave him the
 White House based on:
 the same credentials.
 
  Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is
it
  you
find to be
so
  objectionable about Obama's presidency so far?
 


 Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about
  Bush:
the
deficit.

 Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National
Debt,
  the
United
States paid about $230 billion in interest on its
National
  Debt.
That
represents about $700 per person per year.
   
That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the
  Bush
tax cuts
for the rich because of this scenario? That would have
made
  this
figure
smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at
  avoiding
taxes by
all legal means, would hardly notice any significant
  difference
if those
tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid.
   
Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion
dollars,
  plus
he hid
the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
   
The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and
Obama
  had
the war
costs put on the books properly.
   
So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it.
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   Off, it's time for you to come clean on your false
  representations
on Ron Paul.
  
   You never responded to my previous posts on this subject.
  
   Time for you to come clean to me and everyone here. You
can't
  keep
misrepresenting yourself without being called on it.
  
 
  I responded to your questionso

[FairfieldLife] UAE

2010-03-15 Thread off_world_beings

United Arab Enslavement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaVSATNfWuQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaVSATNfWuQ

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Today, a Yagya for wisdom and balance.

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Joe geezerfr...@... wrote:

 Hey Buck, is TM a religion?

Religion involves belief in deities or gods or a messiah. I practice TM
and I don't believe in anything I haven't seen with my own senses.

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jst...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Joe geezerfreak@ wrote:
 
  Is that really accurate Judy? 3 million?

 I couldn't remember where I saw the stat, so I double-
 checked elsewhere, and apparently it is accurate. This
 is from the magazine/Web site Broadcasting and Cable:

 ...Fox News will finish 2009 as the top-rated cable news
 network, a perch it has enjoyed for eight years running.
 But 2009--the first year of the Obama administration--
 also marks FNC's highest rated year in the channel's 13
 -year-history.

 FNC topped the competition in all dayparts: morning (1
 million total viewers, 340,000 viewers in news' target
 demographic of 25-54-year-olds [referred to as the
 demo--JS]); total day (1.2 million viewers, 323,000 in
 the demo); primetime (2.2 million viewers, 551,000 in
 the demo). Those numbers mark year-to-year demo gains of
 14% in the morning, 16% in total day and 10% in primetime
 (Mon-Sun), according to Nielsen.

 FNC saw double-digit gains for all of its programs.
 Year-to-year, Glenn Beck is up 96% among total viewers
 (2.3 million) and 148% in the demo (612,000). Special
 Report with Bret Baier posted gains of 25% among total
 viewers (2 million) and 33% in the demo (454,000). The
 O'Reilly Factor is up 13% among total viewers (3.3
 million) and 27% (801,000) in the demo, marking its
 tenth consecutive year as the No. 1 cable news program.

How do they kmow how many people are watching it?

OffWorld



http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/440766-Cable_News_Ratings_Fox_N\
ews_Has_Highest_Rated_Year_In_Network_History.php
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/440766-Cable_News_Ratings_Fox_\
News_Has_Highest_Rated_Year_In_Network_History.php

 http://tinyurl.com/ye93h5y http://tinyurl.com/ye93h5y

  I had no idea.fascinating. (And kind of a relief!)

 I was surprised too. I knew it wasn't huge, but I didn't
 realize it was that low. It certainly seems to make noise
 way out of proportion to the size of its audience. It
 seems almost silly for Obama  Co. to have gone to the
 trouble to publicly denounce it a few months back.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote:

  The one saving grace of Fox News is that only a tiny
  percentage of people watch it, 3-something million at
  most. Of course, that's more than the other cable news
  channels, but it's still not all that significant
  overall. News and political junkies tend to forget that
  and talk about it as if it's a lot more influential
  than it really is.


 In our household Fox news is on periodically.  On the rare occasions
 when I watch, or have the remote, I will see what is on CNN, and
 typically I'm not too impressed.  There is something about Wolf
Blitzer
 I cannot stomach. I really don't know any of the other CNN
 personalities. On rarer occassions I may catch Rachael Maddow, or
Keith
 Oberman, but  I don't find too much of interest there either.   But it
 is the conservatives shows that are winning the ratings on both radio
 and TV, but I guess, as you say, put in perspective, it is not as
 significant as it might seem to be.

They are not winning the ratings on TV.
CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, BBC, etc. -- which Fox pundits call 'left wing
media' -- combined, get FAR bigger ratings than the lone far-right Fox
News.  Its just that there are more choices among the center and left
wing TV News.
Combined they far outweigh the lone neocon Fox News.

I don't know about Radio. In Fall 2008, NPR programming reached a record
27.5 million people weekly, according to Arbitron ratings figures. NPR
stations reach 32.7 million listeners overall. In a Harris poll
conducted in 2005, NPR was voted the most trusted news source in the
U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Public_Radio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Public_Radio

As of of 2006, The Rush Limbaugh Show had a minimum weekly audience of
13.5 million listeners

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh#The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_Limbaugh#The_Rush_Limbaugh_Show

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to Shemp

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
 As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the
Nobel
  Peace
 Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but that
America
  gave him the
 White House based on:
 the same credentials.
 
  Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is it you find to be
so
  objectionable about Obama's presidency so far?
 


 Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about Bush: the
deficit.

 Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National Debt, the United
States paid about $230 billion in interest on its National Debt. That
represents about $700 per person per year.

That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the Bush tax cuts
for the rich because of this scenario? That would have made this figure
smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at avoiding taxes by
all legal means, would hardly notice any significant difference if those
tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid.

Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars, plus he hid
the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama had the war
costs put on the books properly.

So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Today, a Yagya for wisdom and balance.

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

 off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote:

  Religion involves belief in deities or gods or a messiah. I practice
TM
  and I don't believe in anything I haven't seen with my own senses.

 So, you believe that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west?


Senses know that photos of the Earth and planets, and measurements of
spherical nature of the Earth, are accurate. Maybe you think that
evidence does not count and the world is flat?

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Come Clean first, Off

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
   As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the
  Nobel
Peace
   Prize without any accomplishments to his name, but that
  America
gave him the
   White House based on:
   the same credentials.
   
Shemp, take away health care for a moment. What is it you find to be
  so
objectionable about Obama's presidency so far?
   
  
  
   Pretty much the same thing I found objectionable about Bush: the
  deficit.
  
   Two years ago with about $10 trillion in National Debt, the United
  States paid about $230 billion in interest on its National Debt. That
  represents about $700 per person per year.
  
  That's peanuts. Am I right you are therefore against the Bush tax cuts
  for the rich because of this scenario? That would have made this figure
  smaller per person, and the rich, who are experts at avoiding taxes by
  all legal means, would hardly notice any significant difference if those
  tax cuts were repealled. Problem solved, debt paid.
  
  Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars, plus he hid
  the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.
  
  The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama had the war
  costs put on the books properly.
  
  So what's your point again Shemp? I don't get it.
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 
 Off, it's time for you to come clean on your false representations on Ron 
 Paul.
 
 You never responded to my previous posts on this subject.
 
 Time for you to come clean to me and everyone here.  You can't keep 
 misrepresenting yourself without being called on it.


I responded to your questionso on this many times, You never read the 
responses, because you do not like facts. Go back and find the responses 
yourself. I am not answering this AGAIN! 

OffWolrd



[FairfieldLife] Re: Question to Shemp

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jst...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  Ok, that makes sense.

 Lurk, it really doesn't. Almost all of what has been
 added to the deficit under Obama has been to keep the
 economy (which began falling apart largely as a result
 of Bush's policies) from crashing completely.

 The big problem is that he didn't add *enough* to the
 deficit to really do the job; all he did was save the
 banks and Wall Street

Not true, he gave me and millions of others about $25,000 over the next
10 years with lower mortage rates, and that money is being plowed back
into the economy nationwide, especially in places where there were more
responsible borrowers and less foreclosures. He also created a lot of
jobs and kept many struggling small businesses from going under
The economy is coming back, and only the red states will take the
longest to recover, and nobody cares about them anymore.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] The Financial Crimes of GW Bush.

2010-03-14 Thread off_world_beings

Bush left us with a national debt of 11.3 trillion dollars, plus he hid
the cost of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars.

The national debt clock today shows 12.5 trillion, and Obama had the war
costs put on the books properly.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama

2010-03-13 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@...
wrote:

 Corection: Ralph Reed on the cover of Time MAgazine, May 15th 1995.



 
 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sat, March 13, 2010 4:28:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama


 You mean like the photo of Ralph Reid that appeared on News Week?

Time Magazine is a mostly right-wing rag,  but their use of traditional
photography in 1995 on a corrupt christian fundie politician in the pics
below, was nothing like the Fox News photoshopped smear of professional
working journalists.



Here are pics of Fox News alterations of regular working journalists:

Steinberg's teeth have been yellowed, his nose and chin widened, and
his ears made to protrude further. 



Similarly, a comparison of the photo of Reddicliffe used by Fox News
and the original photo
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.innovationsinnewspapers.\
com%2Fwp%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2006%2F12%2F27reddi.jpg  suggests
that Reddicliffe's teeth have been yellowed, dark circles have been
added under his eyes, and his hairline has been moved back. 



http://mediamatters.org/research/200807020002
http://mediamatters.org/research/200807020002

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama

2010-03-12 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:38 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
 
  Enlighten me. How was the picture photoshopped?  I don't have the
experience, and would like to know.

 I don't know the answer to that, lurk,
 but do you really get your news off the
 Drudge Report or Fox News?  Color me
 disillusioned.

 Sal


Both of which have used photoshopped photos as if they are real for
years.

Here is a shot of Jesse Ventura's new book cover: 
http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW

Here is a screenshot of the fake cover that Fox and Friends used 3 days
ago: http://screencast.com/t/MTMwZWI3Z
http://screencast.com/t/MTMwZWI3Z

...in this interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIczKqAewRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIczKqAewRo

OffWorld







[FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama

2010-03-12 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Mar 12, 2010, at 5:32 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
wrote:
  
   On Mar 11, 2010, at 9:38 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote:
   
Enlighten me. How was the picture photoshopped?  I don't have
the experience, and would like to know.
  
   I don't know the answer to that, lurk,
   but do you really get your news off the
   Drudge Report or Fox News?  Color me
   disillusioned.
  
   Sal
  
 
  Both of which have used photoshopped photos as if they are real for
years.
 
  Here is a shot of Jesse Ventura's new book cover: 
http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW
 
  Here is a screenshot of the fake cover that Fox and Friends used 3
days ago:http://screencast.com/t/MTMwZWI3Z

 The Fox page was gone, but I can imagine.
 It's disillusioning when intelligent people fall
 for that crap.

 Sal


Here is the Fox version -- screencapture from the video of Fox and
Friends:
http://screencast.com/t/NDYxZGM5ZjYt
http://screencast.com/t/NDYxZGM5ZjYt

...compared to the actual cover --  http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW
http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW

I know the actual cover is also a trumped up version of Ventura, like
any author picture, but the Fox and Friends version went out of their
way to make him look dweeby. News organizations are not supposed to do
that.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama

2010-03-12 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jst...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
   Here is the Fox version -- screencapture from the video of Fox and
   Friends:
   http://screencast.com/t/NDYxZGM5ZjYt
http://screencast.com/t/NDYxZGM5ZjYt
   http://screencast.com/t/NDYxZGM5ZjYt
http://screencast.com/t/NDYxZGM5ZjYt 
  
   ...compared to the actual cover -- 
http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW
   http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW
http://screencast.com/t/YzNiZTRmYW 
  
  That is disturbing. And would seem to be blantant
  misrepresentation.

 Not to defend Fox, but it seems a bit unlikely they'd
 deliberately attempt such a blatant misrepresentation
 *during an interview with Ventura about the book*.

 It's not impossible that they were sent a preliminary
 mock-up of the cover in a package of promotional
 materials from the publisher (which is very small)
 before the book came out, and that in the interim the
 cover was changed, but it never occurred to the
 production folks at Fox to check to see if what they
 were sent was the final cover. They just used what
 they were sent to make the slide because it was handy.

Of course, your explanation occurred to me immediatley I saw the
interview and backed it up to look to have a double-take at the book
cover, but I doubt that cover ever existed as it stands there.

Fox manipulates every image they show:

Steinberg's teeth have been yellowed, his nose and chin widened, and
his ears made to protrude further. 



Similarly, a comparison of the photo of Reddicliffe used by Fox News
and the original photo
http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.innovationsinnewspapers.\
com%2Fwp%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2006%2F12%2F27reddi.jpg  suggests
that Reddicliffe's teeth have been yellowed, dark circles have been
added under his eyes, and his hairline has been moved back. 



http://mediamatters.org/research/200807020002
http://mediamatters.org/research/200807020002

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Farakahn or Obama

2010-03-11 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

 When I first saw this headline pic, I couldn't tell who it was.  Those
two mics, looked kind of like the trademark Farakohn necktie

 http://www.drudgereport.com/ http://www.drudgereport.com/


You also don't have the experience to see that that photo has been
photoshopped to make the worst of it. Typical republican smear campaign.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-09 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:

 off:
  I supported Ron Paul for leader of the Republicans,
 
 Ron Paul does not support Obama's health insurance
 reform.

  and I STILL DO!
 
 Ron Paul still does not support Obama's health insurance
 reform. Ron Paul voted 'no' on Obama's health care bill.


Ron Paul supports social help for those in need. Its called socialism.
He, like you,  just doesn't know that is what he is calling for.

And that explains why he would never be President. I always wanted him
as the Republican party candidate. It would be much better than your
crowd of Neocons, but Republicans are out of the whitehouse for 10 more
years, but it would awesome for him to debate Obama. They would end up
agreeing more than any other 2 candidates ever.

Also, Ron Paul is pro-choice, and he doesn't even know it ( he - like
Palin - said he does not want anyone punished ), so like most
Republicans he just ahs not thought it through.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ha ha Avatar not so great !

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@...
wrote:

 On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:15 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

  After all the hype, and supporters calling detractors 'blind' if
they had a criticism of the film, Avatar only takes a few token Oscars !
 
  Good. It was a crock of cliche, over-sentimental, very forgetable
junk food.
  And it only earned 1.5 billion pounds even with all the over-hyping
and its lowest common denominator draw.
 
  Now we can move on from this pretentious montrosity of a movie.

 Amen--and now maybe we won't have to waste
 any more afternoons or evenings sitting
 through another one of Cameron's interminable,
 over-hyped, way over-produced, anti-septic,
 silly message movies, with little heart and
 even less soul, with actors who
 aren't acting and a plot you couldn't find
 if you had a map. The guy doesn't direct
 movies, he directs production brochures. And
 I'm just delighted the Academy agreed with
 me :) and passed the Oscars on to those movies
 that actually deserved it. You know, the ones
 that had all that old-fashioned stuff like plot,
 acting and stories with characters people
 actually could care about.

 Sal


Yea, and I love that it was Cameron's ex-wife that won the Oscar for
Best Picture !
Sweet revenge to all those morons who thought Avatar was more than a
pocahontas movie with more glitz.
It is like watching a bad TV series with some cool effectsd (which hhave
been done before - see the Imax movie about the ocean in 3D at an Imax
theatre - much more impressive, because it is real and even though it is
way older.)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Who on FFL disagrees with this?

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   , ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   , off_world_beings
no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   , ShempMcGurk
shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com   , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
One of Raj Patel's main themes is that the new capital
for
  the
21st
century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He
is
  saying
  that
true wealth in the future will come from giving.
   
Who on FairfieldLife would say 'no' to that philosophy
for
  the
21st
century? In essence, do you agree with this idea or not?
If
  not,
  state
in one sentence your alternative approach.
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   I say no to that philosophy.
  
   The best way to allocate the scarce resources of the world
in
  the
  fairest and most efficient way -- in particular and
disproportionately
  in favor of the poorest of the world -- is through the
  selfishness
and
  me, firstness of the unfettered free market.
 
  Thanks for the honest answer, but your method will not work
in
  the
21st
  century. Your method allocates resources to the biggest army
  only,
and a
  few of their citizens and not to the most successful
businesses
  as
your
  free-market philosophy champions. Your method also fuels and
perpetuates
  terrorism worldwide.  And the problem is, many people have
the
biggest
  army now, its called a nuclear bomb. So your greed will come
  back to
  bite you and leave the world devastated. So, no, your
methods
  are
the
  methods of the dark ages, not the 21st century.
 
  Next please. (move along now Shemp, your kind are
history,
  not
part
  of the future.)
 
  OffWorld
 

 Again, the person who you supported for president, Ron Paul,
  agrees
with me and disagrees with you.
   
I supported Obama for President.
   
  
  
  
   You supported Obama only AFTER Ron Paul was out of the running
 
  Nope. Ron Paul was still in the running at the time. I supported Ron
  Paul for leader of the Republican party because he was far better
than
  all those idiots and criminals that you supported Shemp. But you
  warmongers pushed him out and smeared him, so that an old idiot
  warmonger could shuffle around with some bimbo ,making complete
fools of
  you and your warmongering hateful ant-social archaic neandhethal
friends
  Shemp.
 
  I was the first on FFL life to support Obama for President. (and
that
  fact just makes you so mad doesn't it Shemp.)
 
  OffWorld
 


 That you supported Obama?  Nope, it confirms to me that you shouldn't
have been in Ron Paul's camp in the first place.

They are both against the Iraq war and Guantanomo.
They are both against against corporate control of government.
They are both for science over religious Neocon fanaticism.

They are more alike than anybody.

I HOPE Ron Paul gets the Republican candidacy, so that you will see
Obama and Ron Paul debate and agree on almost everything

[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote:

   Ron Paul voted 'no' on Obama's health care bill.
  
 Bhairitu:
  However he is fervently anti-war...
 
 Ron Paul voted 'yes' to invade Afghanistan.

Which shows he is rational when it counts. That is why I support him.

Just like the International Community decided they could sort out
Afghanisthan, which, if you Neocons had not wasted all the money and
resources in Iraq, would have worked.

Both Obama and Ron Paul supported the Afghanistan legal international
intervention, and both were against the illegal Bush war in Iraq.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ron Paul squarely against embryonic stem cell research

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:



 [snip]



  They are both for science over religious Neocon fanaticism.
 


 [snip]


 I can't imagine that you are referring to anything but embryonic stem
cell research, as this is the primary science over religion issue
prevalent in American society today.

 Ron Paul's record on this issue is the COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what you
write above and claim is his position.


Wrong. He is against government funding of it.

Take the ghee Shemp.

You don't understand these things Shemp. You brian is heavily stagnated.
I suggest you do home prep with ghee once a month. Use 15-20 mils of
ghee the first day, build up to 80-100 mils, then on the 4th night take
40 mils of warmed castor oil mixed with fresh squeezed orange juice,
take a 20 minute hot bath or shower, and go to bed early.

Get back to after you have done this. It will free up your frozen
neuronal pathways.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:



However he is fervently anti-war...
   
   Ron Paul voted 'yes' to invade Afghanistan.
  
 off:
  Which shows he is rational when it counts...
 
 Ron Paul voted 'yes' on the 1991 Gulf War. He
 voted 'yes' on the invasion of Afghanistan.

Yes, he is very mainstream. He will make a great leader of the
Republican party.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:

However he is fervently anti-war...
   
   Ron Paul voted 'yes' to invade Afghanistan.
  
 Bhairitu:
  With the majority in 2001...
 
 So, Ron Paul is not 'fervently' anti-war.


No-one said he was anti-war. I said is not a WARMONGER such as Bush.
He voted with the international community for a well co-ordinated and
rational response in Gulf War I and in Afghanisthan. He is very
rational. This is not warmongering, this is rational action based on
international consensus.
He voted against the unilateral, illegal and absolutley foolish and
irrational Iraq war which the warmngers Bush and Cheney forced through.
(Obama was also against the Iraq war.) There is a difference between
someone who supports international action in a rational and co-ordinated
unified response to an attack like in Gulf War I.
But a 'warmonger' is someone who attacks a country that has not attacked
them and thinks they can go it alone in their macho stupidity and win
and solve all problems. The latter is Bush, Cheney and you.

Ron Paul is not a warmonger. Bush/Cheney are. It is simple and obvious.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Referendum

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:

 I believe in representative democracy.  That is, we elect people to
represent us.  Once elected and sitting in their legislature, I trust
our elected representatives to make the important decisions for us.

 But for those issues where our representatives are NOT able to capably
represent us and come to a firm decision as a result of the cut and
thrust of parliamentary debate, alternatives should be looked at.

 The healthcare debate is one such example.

 What I think should happen is this: a referendum question with a yes
or no option for the voter should be presented on a national level. 
And the question should be something to the effect:

 Do you want a universal one-payer system for healthcare in the United
States?

You would lose that vote.
But the question should only be Do you want to be able to be part of a
public option that can compete with the insurance industry? --- since
that is the most radical thing Obama has proposed. He never proposed a
single payer system. You have been brain-washed.
And you would lose the vote, so I am all for a referendum. You have been
brain-washed by your silly right wing talking points blogs if you think
you would win either of these votes.

Besides, the Republican, Neocon, Fundie Christian fanatics, and their
UberLords would likely fix the vote anyway, like they did in the 2000
and 2004 elections.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Referendum

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   I believe in representative democracy.  That is, we elect people
to
  represent us.  Once elected and sitting in their legislature, I
trust
  our elected representatives to make the important decisions for us.
  
   But for those issues where our representatives are NOT able to
capably
  represent us and come to a firm decision as a result of the cut and
  thrust of parliamentary debate, alternatives should be looked at.
  
   The healthcare debate is one such example.
  
   What I think should happen is this: a referendum question with a
yes
  or no option for the voter should be presented on a national
level.
  And the question should be something to the effect:
  
   Do you want a universal one-payer system for healthcare in the
United
  States?
 
  You would lose that vote.
  But the question should only be Do you want to be able to be part
of a
  public option that can compete with the insurance industry? ---
since
  that is the most radical thing Obama has proposed. He never proposed
a
  single payer system. You have been brain-washed.




 I never said he did propose such a thing.

Why would anyone have such a vote then? It seems a completely random
question un-related to any current topic that anyone is talking about.
Why not just have a vote asking should we make dogfood so that it glows
in the dark when it comes out the other end of the dog?


 I am proposing such a thing, turd brain.

 And, hey, where is your response to the research I did showing that
what you said about Ron Paul was full of shit?

 Are you avoiding it?

I didn't see it. You post too much in your desperate attempt for
attention. Post it again. But I am not discussing anything with someone
who's best response is 'turd-brain'.

Over and out.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Ha ha Avatar not so great !

2010-03-08 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

 Off, I am betting, and am pretty sure, that you saw Avatar 3-4 times
just to be sure that you really hated it, and to make sure you didn't
miss any of the ways in which you hated it.

I saw it once. It's shite.

OffWorld


  off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote:

  Yea, and I love that it was Cameron's ex-wife that won the Oscar for
  Best Picture !
  Sweet revenge to all those morons who thought Avatar was more than a
  pocahontas movie with more glitz.
  It is like watching a bad TV series with some cool effectsd (which
hhave
  been done before - see the Imax movie about the ocean in 3D at an
Imax
  theatre - much more impressive, because it is real and even though
it is
  way older.)
 
  OffWorld
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Who on FFL disagrees with this?

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
One of Raj Patel's main themes is that the new capital for the
21st
century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is saying
  that
true wealth in the future will come from giving.
   
Who on FairfieldLife would say 'no' to that philosophy for the
21st
century? In essence, do you agree with this idea or not? If not,
  state
in one sentence your alternative approach.
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   I say no to that philosophy.
  
   The best way to allocate the scarce resources of the world in the
  fairest and most efficient way -- in particular and
disproportionately
  in favor of the poorest of the world -- is through the selfishness
and
  me, firstness of the unfettered free market.
 
  Thanks for the honest answer, but your method will not work in the
21st
  century. Your method allocates resources to the biggest army only,
and a
  few of their citizens and not to the most successful businesses as
your
  free-market philosophy champions. Your method also fuels and
perpetuates
  terrorism worldwide.  And the problem is, many people have the
biggest
  army now, its called a nuclear bomb. So your greed will come back to
  bite you and leave the world devastated. So, no, your methods are
the
  methods of the dark ages, not the 21st century.
 
  Next please. (move along now Shemp, your kind are history, not
part
  of the future.)
 
  OffWorld
 

 Again, the person who you supported for president, Ron Paul, agrees
with me and disagrees with you.

I supported Obama for President.

You have nothing in common with Ron Paul Shemp. Why do you keep kidding
yourself? I told you a million times. You are nothing like him, and you
don't understand any of his points.  You are a warmonger, he is a
peacenik. Why do you keep kidding yourself?

Ron Paul is all about charities too. ie. Giving. He believes that
helping others comes naturally. He just doesn't understand that in an
age of ignorance, with ignoramouses such as you, there needs to be an
organized effort to help others in a way that the consensus in society
feels is best (rather than your ignorant inefficient ideas) --  and that
is called socialism.

Socialism is the wave of the future.

Peace and love.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  Last chance America.
  Without reform you are bankrupt.
  Yes, Willytex, MDIXON,  and Shemp, you and your families will loose
your
  job/income and go bankrupt. Healthcare costs this country too much.
It
  is dragging the economy into an abyss.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews 
 
  We Brits will be just fine though.
 
  OffWorld
 


 What does your hero -- your fanatical choice for president -- Ron Paul
feel about the healthcare issue, Off_World?


  I never saw your stupid post with a video. Do you really think I pay
much attention to you Shemp?

I supported Obama for President (long before anyone on FFl did):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/139394
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/139394

Magoo, you have nothing in common with Ron Paul.. Why do you keep
kidding yourself? I told you a million times. You are nothing like him,
and you don't understand any of his points.  You are a warmonger, he is
a peacenik. Why do you keep kidding yourself?

Ron Paul is all about charities too. ie. Giving. He believes that
helping others comes naturally. He just doesn't understand that in an
age of ignorance, with ignoramouses such as you, there needs to be an
organized effort to help others in a way that the consensus in society
feels is best (rather than your ignorant inefficient ideas) --  and that
is called socialism.
Socialism is the wave of the future.

Peace and love.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:

  ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:

  What does your hero -- your fanatical choice for president -- Ron
Paul feel about the healthcare issue, Off_World?
 
  Gee, let me guess: he's closer to Willytex and MDixon and eons away
from you.
 
  And, gosh, I never heard back from you when I supplied that youtube
of Ron Paul saying how AGW was a crock...what happened to you?

 Same thing that likely will happen to him this time. He's just not
stand up enough to address the tough questions. Either that or he goes
into name calling mode.


Seeking communion with Mr. Magoo, the warmonger anti-social mental case,
are you now Lurker? Good for you, you have a friend there.

I can't figure out where all your hate comes from, You don't seem like
that type.

I never saw Shemp's stupid post with a video. Do you really think I pay
much attention to what participants with so little depth, such as
yourself, have to say here on FFL??

Peace.

OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't have democracy in the US but it's poor cousin; multible choice

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@...
wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2Mldx3r2rQfeature=related


Right on. America was founded so that they could  keep their slaves.
That's all.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Wow, Vaj must be turning in his grave ! ----------was//Re: New study!

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:

 
 2. New Study: Transcendental Meditation Technique Taps into Natural Brain
 Mode
 
 A new study out in February in the journal Cognitive Processing discovered
 that people who practice the Transcendental Meditation® technique are able
 to systematically tap into a natural mode in the brain -- a deep level of
 function that has been identified by scientists.
 
 An underlying state of the brain called the default mode network has become
 a hot topic in neuroscience, but scientists hadn't been able to find a way
 to systematically tap into it, said faculty researcher Fred Travis, lead
 author of the study. When I gave a presentation about this study to
 neuroscientists, they were really interested to hear that this was
 possible.
 
 The study, a randomized controlled trial, found that the source of higher
 alpha brainwaves during the Transcendental Meditation technique were in
 midline cortical regions of the brain seen during the default mode.
 
 This state is associated with unfocused thought, Dr. Travis says. Even when
 your eyes are closed, there's organized activity in the brain. But it's
 inner directed. Your cognitive processes aren't responding to tasks at hand,
 but are engaged in a sort of free-flowing thought. Research has shown that
 when you're most deeply in this state, you're not even aware of it, because
 your mind is so engrossed.
 
 Dr. Travis said that based on seeing the activation of this default mode
 during the Transcendental Meditation technique, one can infer that the
 Transcendental Meditation technique leads to a state of reduced cognitive
 load -- meaning that the brain is working less, i.e., less mental control
 and manipulation, less thinking -- along with a heightened sense of self.
 
 While research has shown that simply closing one's eyes and relaxing
 increases activity in the default mode, activation in this brain network was
 higher during practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique.
 
 In addition, relative to eyes-closed rest, during the Transcendental
 Meditation technique there was higher power in alpha waves in the frontal
 cortex (indicating greater inner wakefulness), lower-power beta and gamma
 waves in the frontal cortex (the brain is working less), and greater
 interhemispheric coherence (the brain is working more as a whole).
 
 The finding of significant brain wave differences between students
 practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique and those simply resting
 with their eyes closed is especially convincing because subjects were
 randomly assigned to conditions, and testing was conducted by a researcher
 unaware of the experimental condition to which the subject had been
 assigned, said David Haaga, Ph.D., coauthor and professor of psychology at
 American University.
 
 The current research on the default mode network of the brain is valuable
 to us, because we now have a concrete, measurable brain network that's being
 talked about in science that we can use to verify what we experience when we
 practice the Transcendental Meditation technique, Dr. Travis said.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Who on FFL disagrees with this?

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  One of Raj Patel's main themes is that the new capital for
the
  21st
  century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is
saying
that
  true wealth in the future will come from giving.
 
  Who on FairfieldLife would say 'no' to that philosophy for
the
  21st
  century? In essence, do you agree with this idea or not? If
not,
state
  in one sentence your alternative approach.
 
  OffWorld
 


 I say no to that philosophy.

 The best way to allocate the scarce resources of the world in
the
fairest and most efficient way -- in particular and
  disproportionately
in favor of the poorest of the world -- is through the
selfishness
  and
me, firstness of the unfettered free market.
   
Thanks for the honest answer, but your method will not work in
the
  21st
century. Your method allocates resources to the biggest army
only,
  and a
few of their citizens and not to the most successful businesses
as
  your
free-market philosophy champions. Your method also fuels and
  perpetuates
terrorism worldwide.  And the problem is, many people have the
  biggest
army now, its called a nuclear bomb. So your greed will come
back to
bite you and leave the world devastated. So, no, your methods
are
  the
methods of the dark ages, not the 21st century.
   
Next please. (move along now Shemp, your kind are history,
not
  part
of the future.)
   
OffWorld
   
  
   Again, the person who you supported for president, Ron Paul,
agrees
  with me and disagrees with you.
 
  I supported Obama for President.
 



 You supported Obama only AFTER Ron Paul was out of the running

Nope. Ron Paul was still in the running at the time. I supported Ron
Paul for leader of the Republican party because he was far better than
all those idiots and criminals that you supported Shemp. But you
warmongers pushed him out and smeared him, so that an old idiot
warmonger could shuffle around with some bimbo ,making complete fools of
you and your warmongering hateful ant-social archaic neandhethal friends
Shemp.

I was the first on FFL life to support Obama for President. (and that
fact just makes you so mad doesn't it Shemp.)

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Ha ha Avatar not so great !

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings

After all the hype, and supporters calling detractors 'blind' if they
had a criticism of the film, Avatar only takes a few token Oscars !

Good. It was a crock of cliche, over-sentimental, very forgetable junk
food.
And it only earned 1.5 billion pounds even with all the over-hyping and
its lowest common denominator draw.

Now we can move on from this pretentious montrosity of a movie.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
   
   
Last chance America.
Without reform you are bankrupt.
Yes, Willytex, MDIXON,  and Shemp, you and your families will
loose
  your
job/income and go bankrupt. Healthcare costs this country too
much.
  It
is dragging the economy into an abyss.
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews 
   
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews  
   
We Brits will be just fine though.
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   What does your hero -- your fanatical choice for president -- Ron
Paul
  feel about the healthcare issue, Off_World?
  
 
I never saw your stupid post with a video. Do you really think I
pay
  much attention to you Shemp?
 
  I supported Obama for President (long before anyone on FFl did):
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/139394
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/139394
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/139394
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/139394 
 




 Everyone on this forum knows you supported Ron Paul WAY before you
supported Obama and only switched to Obama once Ron Paul was out of the
running

Wrong. Ron Paul was still in the running when I made that post. Stop
lying Shemp, it is getting you no-where. You are only fooling yourself.
I hadn't heard of Obama until about the time of that post, and I was the
first here to recognise his value in the 21st century. Ron Paul was
still the most credible contender for the Republican leader. The rest
were a joke, as you, who supported them, found out in the general
election.

I supported Ron Paul for leader of the Republicans, and I STILL DO !
GO RON PAUL !
And I was the first to support Obama on FFL, and Ron Paul was still in
the running for the Republican party leader.Stop lying about that.  But
people like you smeared him and pushed him out. Remember, on the night
of the all-white Republican Party convention, Ron Paul had a BIGGER and
more diverse convention across the river. And recently he beat out
Romney and Palin in a Republican straw poll.

You never supported Ron Paul, you just supported neanderthal losers and
criminals like Bush and Cheney and their resident clown McCain and their
Bimbo Palin

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Last chance America.

2010-03-07 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
  steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  
What does your hero -- your fanatical choice for president --
Ron
  Paul feel about the healthcare issue, Off_World?
   
Gee, let me guess: he's closer to Willytex and MDixon and eons
away
  from you.
   
And, gosh, I never heard back from you when I supplied that
youtube
  of Ron Paul saying how AGW was a crock...what happened to you?
  
   Same thing that likely will happen to him this time. He's just not
  stand up enough to address the tough questions. Either that or he
goes
  into name calling mode.
  
 
  Seeking communion with Mr. Magoo, the warmonger anti-social mental
case,
  are you now Lurker? Good for you, you have a friend there.
 
  I can't figure out where all your hate comes from, You don't seem
like
  that type.
 
  I never saw Shemp's stupid post with a video. Do you really think I
pay
  much attention to what participants with so little depth, such as
  yourself, have to say here on FFL??
 
  Peace.
 
  OffWorld
 

 Your offering of Peace at the end of a post in which you spew your
negativity is almost as comical as Barry's posts in which he will skewer
someone and then end with a happy face -):


Except in my case it was deliberate sarcasm at the end of a series of
known facts about you and your wee buddy there, whereas Turq really
thinks he is making his noxious off-gasoing more acceptable with a
smiley face.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Can you see the stupidity?

2010-03-06 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , It's just a ride
bill.hicks.all.a.r...@... wrote:

 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 8:29 PM, off_world_beings
 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote :

 
 
  *Can you point out the absolute absurdity of a statement like this
below
  from the news (its a year old, but its the same news today)?*
 
  Gold jumped to a new three-month high at $980 per ounce on Friday
as
  traders bought the metal as a hedge against weakness in the dollar,
which
  fell to five-month lows against a basket of currencies.
  http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINLT26882620090529
http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINLT26882620090529
 
  *Hint: The paradox is right in the statement.*
 
  *Any takers?*
 
  *OffWorld*
 
 
 Ummm.  We had to pay $850 an ouce for gold because the money we bought
it
 with money that had lost its value?

That's right. Its silly. If I buy my bread with apples, and the worth of
apples goes down, then the number of apples needed to buy bread goes up.

 It's a paradox but still a wise hedge.  It's a wise hedge because as
the
 value of the dollar decreases, the price of gold will increase in
terms of
 dollars. 

The dollar is the question. At the same time the dollar goes down
anything you want to buy (goods or services - eg. oil, rent, apartment,
build house) go up in price. Also, it looses its value against other
currencies. Gold is really just another currency (you can't eat it or
live in it) and if the dollar goes down, the dollar value of gold will
go up, and so will everything else relative to the dollar.
If the dollar goes up, then the dollar value of gold will go down, and
so will everything else relative to it. If there is a real crash, the
value of goods and services will sky-rocket in hyper-inflation. Gold
(like other assetts and currencies) will go up re;ative to the dollar as
well, but the actual worth will be no better than it was.

It would also become a wise speculation if you sell the gold for
 more dollars than wait for the dollar to increase in value against,
say, the
 Euro, 

Except that everyone who owns gold needs to make that jugement correctly
and at the right moment, or many will loose out. So statistacally it is
not very good.

But the difference is that people tend to sit on gold forever, waiting
for widespread collapse and chaos in the streets. Even if you have your
gold, then the dollar value of it will not be able to purchase the goods
and services you need in a crisis because the price of goods will
sky-rocket. That's what happens in hyper-inflation, and gold will not
save their ass. There has been so much hype about the dollar value of
gold recently. But the dollar value is not relevant in the global
economy. Gold is an ok investment, not great, but its best to invest in
diverse regions of the world, diverse currencies, and property in good
healthy states in the US and elsewhere.

which will probably drop below parity with the dollar as the PIGS eat
 at the trough and Germany and others refuse to help the PIGS out. 

Except that 4 out of the 5 biggest companies in the world are European,
one of which is the biggest investor in the Bank of China outside of the
Chinese Government. The only good parts of AIG for example, were just
bought up by British companies. Europe has a lot less debt to GDP ratio
than USA, and between either the Euro and the Pound there is always a
winner for Europe.

Europe is the world's richest region as measured by assets under
management with over $32.7 trillion compared to North America's $27.1
trillion.[2].
Europe's debt = 61.5% of GDP
USA debt = 84% of GDP

However, you are right, none of this is a good position to be in.

OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Who on FFL disagrees with this?

2010-03-06 Thread off_world_beings

One of Raj Patel's main themes is that the new capital for the 21st
century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is saying that
true wealth in the future will come from giving.

Who on FairfieldLife would say 'no' to that philosophy for the 21st
century? In essence, do you agree with this idea or not? If not, state
in one sentence your alternative approach.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Raj Patel: Capitalism Built on Devaluing Women

2010-03-06 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jst...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , tartbrain no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  And shows like Colbert are not the place for deep,
  sustained analysis -- and Patel did get one point across --
  the $200 hamburger -- which is possibly the most you can do
  when caught in the Colbert jagurnaught roller coaster. (I
  think Colbert is great, and he brings out great points in
  satire -- but its not Charlie Rose.)

 Nope. Colbert himself (the person, not the actor)
 probably likes Patel's ideas, but he sure didn't do
 him any favors with that interview. You have to be
 both very laid-back and very quick--very in-the-moment
 and focused--to do yourself justice with Colbert. Rare
 combo, and I don't have the sense Patel makes the
 grade.

Colbert is a jerk. He was funny one time. He is a one joke act, and it
is boring.

Now this stuff is funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZp6cR4bxbY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZp6cR4bxbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-zpFZ9Z9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-zpFZ9Z9I

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Who on FFL disagrees with this?

2010-03-06 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  One of Raj Patel's main themes is that the new capital for the 21st
  century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is saying
that
  true wealth in the future will come from giving.
 
  Who on FairfieldLife would say 'no' to that philosophy for the 21st
  century? In essence, do you agree with this idea or not? If not,
state
  in one sentence your alternative approach.
 
  OffWorld
 


 I say no to that philosophy.

 The best way to allocate the scarce resources of the world in the
fairest and most efficient way -- in particular and disproportionately
in favor of the poorest of the world -- is through the selfishness and
me, firstness of the unfettered free market.

Thanks for the honest answer, but your method will not work in the 21st
century. Your method allocates resources to the biggest army only, and a
few of their citizens and not to the most successful businesses as your
free-market philosophy champions. Your method also fuels and perpetuates
terrorism worldwide.  And the problem is, many people have the biggest
army now, its called a nuclear bomb. So your greed will come back to
bite you and leave the world devastated. So, no, your methods are the
methods of the dark ages, not the 21st century.

Next please. (move along now Shemp, your kind are history, not part
of the future.)

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Last chance America.

2010-03-06 Thread off_world_beings

Last chance America.
Without reform you are bankrupt.
Yes, Willytex, MDIXON,  and Shemp, you and your families will loose your
job/income and go bankrupt. Healthcare costs this country too much. It
is dragging the economy into an abyss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtZLvFrl6qkfeature=ytn%3Amptnews

We Brits will be just fine though.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow gets arrested as Al Qaeda sympathizer !!!

2010-03-05 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:



 http://vodpod.com/watch/3174087-rachel-maddow-on-liz-cheney


America is insane.

(is Liz Cheney the gay daughter?)

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel

2010-03-05 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , lurkernomore20002000
steve.sun...@... wrote:



  The irony is that his main theme is that the new capital for the
21st
  century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is saying
that
  true wealth in the future will come from giving.


 I understand he is an atheist.  No problem there. But one of the last
 people I recall being so strident in this message, was Jesus H.
Christ.


Jesus was an Athiest and a Communist. He defied the teachings of the
synagogues, and said that he is God, God is you, and we are all
together, goo goo ga choob   And wanted a socialist/communist system.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - The Loading Zone plays The Seventh Son

2010-03-05 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote:

 Paul Fauerso band reunion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq3p1ZuZNwQ


Nice. I didn't know Paul Fauerso could do decent music.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Challenge: Can you see the stupidity?

2010-03-05 Thread off_world_beings

Can you point out the absolute absurdity of a statement like this below
from the news (its a year old, but its the same news today)?

Gold jumped to a new three-month high at $980 per ounce on Friday as
traders bought the metal as a hedge against weakness in the dollar,
which fell to five-month lows against a basket of currencies.
http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINLT26882620090529
http://in.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idINLT26882620090529

Hint: The paradox is right in the statement.

Any takers?

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Value of Nothing: Raj Patel

2010-03-04 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jst...@...
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 snip
   Finally the guy announced that although he himself doesn't
   believe in God, he is sympathetic to the goals of spiritual
   groups and religions.  A genuinely balanced, profound thinker.
  
   Nice one Nabby!
 
  It's very nice that you not only listen but understands
  the essence of what Patel says.

 This is the guy some of Creme's followers think is
 Maitreya, right?

The irony is that his main theme is that the new capital for the 21st
century is going to be the capital of 'giving'. ie. He is saying that
true wealth in the future will come from giving.

Now who among you will say 'no' to that philosophy for the 21st century?

In essence, do you agree with this idea or not? If not, state in one
sentence your alternative approach.

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Long-time TM'r speaks on Letterman show

2010-03-04 Thread off_world_beings
Long-time TM'r speaks on Letterman show
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/04/seinfeld-letterman-stand_n_486121.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: The word socialist: be afraid, be very, very afraid.

2010-03-04 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  ShempMcGurk wrote:
  
   So I think a better explanation of the paying for and maintaining
of a police and fire department through taxes is just that: taxation for
the general welfare.
  
 
  So then you aren't opposed to paying taxes for free health care?  
That
  promotes the general welfare.



 I am opposed to any kind of governmental intervention in health.

That's because your from Canada and never experienced the thought that
if something happened to you or your family you could go COMPLETELY
bankrupt. It happened to some people I know - very wealthy people, who
already had insurance.

REMEMBER - the insurance companies can use their lawyers to come after
you and take every non-essential dollar from you if you do not pay (if
you are already poor, there's nothing to take, but they will charge you
if you ever make money later.)
REMEMBER: Even if it is to one of your family members that some
long-term sickness happens, and you refuse to support them, the
insurance companies can STILL come after YOUR money if the can show you
are next of kin that has money.
REMEMBER: Even if you do not want one of YOUR family members to pay for
your health care, and you run out of money over time due to high costs
and refusal by insurance company, then they can STILL go after one of
your close family members and take THEIR money instead, and there is
nothing you can do.

But Shemp, you are obviously not married, or don't care about your
wife's future if something goes wrong. You probably have no family in
America, and therefore you have not thought it through at all. But one
things for sure, when the sh!t hits the fan for you, you will be
horrified by what happens to you.

Your assessment of how things work in America is foolish, and just
because you can always get free care in Canada whenever your want makes
you COMPLETELY unable to think this topic through in any meanigful or
useful way, and your opinion is entirely based on the fact you have no
close family in America.

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Anti-Gay GOP State Sen. Got DUI After Leaving Gay Nightclub

2010-03-04 Thread off_world_beings

All these fucking anti-gay republicans are closet gays in one way or
another.

Christ ! even Dick Cheney has changed his stance on this issue.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/01/cheney-offers-his-support_n_209\
869.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/01/cheney-offers-his-support_n_20\
9869.html

OffWorld

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , do.rflex do.rf...@...
wrote:

 Entering the Larry Craig Pantheon  Josh Marshall
 http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/ http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
  | March  4, 2010,  1:36AM

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/03/entering_the_larry_cr\
\
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/03/entering_the_larry_cr\
\
 aig_pantheon.php
 Sen. Roy Ashburn (R)
 It's no good for a family values Republican to get picked up
on a
 DUI. But substantially worse to get picked up for a DUI after leaving
a
 gay nightclub with an unidentified man

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/sources_family_values\
\
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/sources_family_values\
\
 _goper_was_at_gay_club_before.php  in a state vehicle.

 That's the sorry state that befell California state Senator Roy
Ashburn
 (R-Bakersfield) early Wednesday.

 [[SLIDESHOW: Greatest GOP Sex Scandals

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/gallery/2009/06/social-conservative-sc\
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\
 andals.php ]]

 In better days Ashburn, a fierce opponent of gay rights, was fighting
 marriage equality and organizing anti-gay marriage rallies as part of
 his Traditional Family Values campaign.

 But he hit a bump in the road -- figuratively, not literally --
 Wednesday at around 2 AM when CHP officers observed him weaving and
 driving http://www.kmph.com/Global/story.asp?S=12077608
http://www.kmph.com/Global/story.asp?S=12077608   erratically
 in downtown Sacramento. After a field sobriety test, officers
determined
 that Ashburn, who reeked of alcohol and had bloodshot, watery eyes,
was
 under he influence of alcohol and placed him under arrest. He was
 released from jail
 http://www.sacsheriff.com/inmate_information/current_listing.cfm
http://www.sacsheriff.com/inmate_information/current_listing.cfm  
just
 before 4 AM.

 Initial reports only noted the DWI arrest and Ashburn issued a
contrite
 apology

http://www.bakersfield.com/news_alerts/x379808761/Report-Sen-Roy-Ashbur\
\
http://www.bakersfield.com/news_alerts/x379808761/Report-Sen-Roy-Ashbur\
\
 n-arrested-on-DUI-charges  on Wednesday.  But late this evening, the
 CBS affiliate in Sacramento reported
 http://cbs13.com/local/ashburn.arrest.dui.2.1534505.html
http://cbs13.com/local/ashburn.arrest.dui.2.1534505.html   that
 sources confirmed that Ashburn had left Faces
 http://www.faces.net/club.asp http://www.faces.net/club.asp  , a
gay nightclub in downtown
 Sacramento, just prior to his arrest.

 The state issued black Chevrolet Tahoe Ashburn was driving has been
 impounded at the state Capitol.

 http://snipurl.com/un0z6 http://snipurl.com/un0z6   
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Union of States

2010-03-01 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , WillyTex willy...@...
wrote:



   I wonder how countries rank overall?
  
 off:
  EU has 77 medals total compared to US 26, and
  Norway 17 (Norway is not part of EU)...
 
 VANCOUVER, British Columbia - While the Vancouver
 Olympics aren't finished, the medal races are -
 and in spectacular fashion for North Americans.

Lol ! Like everything else you discuss here Willytex, you live in a
bubble of ignorance. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
Read the annihilation of North America by Europe:

EU has 108 medals total: 31 Gold Medals, 36 Silver, 41 Bronze.

Canada+USA have 21 Gold Medals, 22 Silver, 5 Bronze.

USA doesn't even have as many medals in total as the EU has in GOLDS !

http://www.medaltracker.eu/ http://www.medaltracker.eu/

What a joke. WTF is wrong with the Associated Press? Idiots.

(PS. Canada has pictures of the Queen at their Border Customs - which
the British don't. And Canada ultimately takes orders on policy from The
Secratary General to the Queen, who is the Head of State in Canada -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean . Canadians are more
British than the Scottish are ! )

OffWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: A Union of States

2010-03-01 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:



 [snip]



 
  (PS. Canada has pictures of the Queen at their Border Customs -
which
  the British don't. And Canada ultimately takes orders on policy from
The
  Secratary General to the Queen, who is the Head of State in Canada -
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean . Canadians are
more
  British than the Scottish are ! )
 
  OffWorld
 


 Actually, the post is called The Governor-General. But this is
wholly a ceremonial and traditional post and has been for about one
hundred years. 

Unless you were one of the MANY politicians in Canada who recently DID
NOT want Stephen Harper to prorogue Parliament -- again ! In which case,
many Canadians I know thought it was an outrage, direct support of
Harper's corrupt government, and a slap in the face to his rising
opposition:

By late 2008, however, the Governor General had to return to Canada in
the midst of a state visit in Europe to contend with a parliamentary
dispute
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Canadian_parliamentary_d\
ispute  that endangered the stability of government, as a coalition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_government  of three opposition
parties in parliament
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Canada  threatened to
rescind their confidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_(politics)  in the Cabinet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Canada  under the chairmanship
of Stephen Harper. Choosing to follow constitutional precedent, Jean
accepted, after two hours of deliberation, her Prime Minister's advice
to prorogue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_session 
parliament until late January 2009,[34]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#cite_note-34  thus
preventing the possibility of an official vote of non-confidence and a
resulting situation wherein Jean would be required to choose between
asking the coalition to form a government or dissolving parliament
dropping the writs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropping_the_writ 
after having allowed an election only four months earlier.[35]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#cite_note-35 
-   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#As_Governor_General
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#As_Governor_General

Also, who is the current Commander in Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces
Shemp.

Ultimately, you answer to the Queen of England Shemp, and you don't even
know it (i'm not saying its a good thing to be in that position by the
way.)

OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: A Union of States

2010-03-01 Thread off_world_beings


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ShempMcGurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
  
  
  
   [snip]
  
  
  
   
(PS. Canada has pictures of the Queen at their Border Customs -
  which
the British don't. And Canada ultimately takes orders on policy from
  The
Secratary General to the Queen, who is the Head of State in Canada -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean . Canadians are
  more
British than the Scottish are ! )
   
OffWorld
   
  
  
   Actually, the post is called The Governor-General. But this is
  wholly a ceremonial and traditional post and has been for about one
  hundred years. 
  
  Unless you were one of the MANY politicians in Canada who recently DID
  NOT want Stephen Harper to prorogue Parliament -- again ! In which case,
  many Canadians I know thought it was an outrage, direct support of
  Harper's corrupt government, and a slap in the face to his rising
  opposition:
  
  By late 2008, however, the Governor General had to return to Canada in
  the midst of a state visit in Europe to contend with a parliamentary
  dispute
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Canadian_parliamentary_d\
  ispute  that endangered the stability of government, as a coalition
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_government  of three opposition
  parties in parliament
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_of_Canada  threatened to
  rescind their confidence
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_(politics)  in the Cabinet
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Canada  under the chairmanship
  of Stephen Harper. Choosing to follow constitutional precedent, Jean
  accepted, after two hours of deliberation, her Prime Minister's advice
  to prorogue http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_session 
  parliament until late January 2009,[34]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#cite_note-34  thus
  preventing the possibility of an official vote of non-confidence and a
  resulting situation wherein Jean would be required to choose between
  asking the coalition to form a government or dissolving parliament
  dropping the writs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropping_the_writ 
  after having allowed an election only four months earlier.[35]
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#cite_note-35 
  -   
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#As_Governor_General
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C3%ABlle_Jean#As_Governor_General
  
  Also, who is the current Commander in Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces
  Shemp.
  
  Ultimately, you answer to the Queen of England Shemp, and you don't even
  know it (i'm not saying its a good thing to be in that position by the
  way.)
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 
 Yes, technically, Canadians answer to the Queen.  But, again, this is only 
 ceremonial.
 
 And as your excerpt above points out, the G-G did what the Prime Minister 
 recommended she do.  Again, traditional.  the G-G does not make policy or law 
 while being the ultimate signatory to laws.

So the Queen's GG intervened where many in Canada DID NOT WANT HER TO 
INTERVENE. The GG did not have to intervene. 

 
 By the way, if anyone here remembers a Hollywood actor from the '50s named 
 Raymond Massey, his older brother, Vincent Massey, was the first 
 Canadian-born Governor-General of Canada.  
 
 There are several other Canadian political/Hollywood connections:
 
 - Kiefer Sutherland's grandfather was Tommy Douglas who introduced the first 
 socialized medicine law in North America in Saskatchewan and was later the 
 leader of Canada's socialist party, the NDP.
 
 - Leslie Nielson of Naked Gun fame has an older brother, Erik, who was 
 Deputy Prime Minister of Canada in the 1980s.





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