[FairfieldLife] Re: Reversing The Flow -- Writing AS Spiritual Experience

2014-01-22 Thread sharelong60
Judy, I've never written a spiritual essay. I think it was Buck who wrote that 
post but I'm going to check now.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Feliz Navidad to everyone!

2013-12-26 Thread sharelong60
Richard, Ann's just upset that I caught her trying to pass off last year's tree 
photo as this years! Plus I revealed her lie about my living in a 1 BR flat.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: for Emily Bob, to thank Richard, Share finally replies about Ann#39;s tree photo

2013-12-23 Thread sharelong60
Richard, that would be fun to meet at Revs in person. It it the FF *in* spot. 
You might even spot Oprah or David Lynch there. Only kidding! I think Oprah 
went to Cafe Paradiso which is just down the street. Maybe we could all dress 
in Duck Dynasty outfits too. That'll give the TMers something to meditate on!

PS I agree with you that FFLers are probably nicer in person.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: for Emily Bob, to thank Richard, Share finally replies about Ann#39;s tree photo

2013-12-20 Thread sharelong60
Yes, Richard that's what I'm saying and no I don't think Emily should get 
booted for that. Hey, way to conjure up Judy!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Big Pharma#39;s Phony Study

2013-12-17 Thread sharelong60
Thank you, Xeno for your balanced input. I'm replying from the website because 
yahoo mail kept refreshing and losing what I had written! Anyway, 
supplement-wise, I read and experiment and sometimes ignore the results of 
both, just going by my intuition or, as you said, just continue in the spirit 
of *just in case it's doing something good.* I really don't like to take 
supplements. Nonetheless, I use a liquid multi vitamin and spray Vit D. The 
latter was recommended by my regular doc as was Vit C and calcium. My diet is 
pretty healthy albeit rather limited. 
 

 I think even a healthy person would need to take something to supplement their 
diet. Mainly because our soil is so depleted of nutrients that even organic 
food in normal amounts might not supply all the nutrients one needs.
 

 As for tumeric, I'd much rather obtain that from delicious food I eat than 
from the capsules I see in the herb shop! I think in general the Oriental diets 
are much healthier if only because they supply herbs and spices that are 
beneficial. 

 

 Laughing now because I'm remembering two aphorisms I've heard: food is 
Brahman; Brahman is the eater!



[FairfieldLife] RE: The pharmaceutical industry is beneath contempt

2013-12-16 Thread sharelong60
Yeah, Doc, I noticed the abundance of Lyrica TV ads when I was visiting my Mom. 
And the subliminals of that name! Lyrica! Honestly, could they be more obvious?!

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ice Krispies

2013-12-13 Thread sharelong60
hey noozguru, I finally got to visit Murphy's website which is even a treat 
visually! Luckily I found the page on movies. Very creative fellow, I'd say. He 
seems to be a popular musician with movie makers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: car older than 2012? Don#39;t use E15 gas...

2013-12-11 Thread sharelong60
Hey, Richard, thanks for the link. I purchased my Honda Civic in Feb 2006 so 
I'll be avoiding E15, thank you very much! Also, Honda was one of the car 
makers listed as not honoring warranties if one uses E15! All glory to Snopes 
LOL.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Fairfield, Iowa

2013-12-10 Thread sharelong60
I'm nobody! Who are you? I'm nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there's a pair of us -- don't tell!
They'd banish -- you know!

How dreary to be somebody!
How public like a frog
To tell one's name the livelong day
To an admiring bog! 
 
 
 
Emily Dickinson



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation Fairfield, Iowa

2013-12-10 Thread sharelong60
But wait a minute, Richard! Way over on that other thread Time Doesn't 
Exist..., they concluded that time is an illusion! Signed, the other retired 
non self on FFL (-:

[FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-06 Thread sharelong60
Steve, good luck to J with his search for the right university. I've been 
enjoying as my great nieces go about this process. Two are really into soccer 
and that's how they choose their colleges!

Hope you all are holding at snow with no ice.

FWIW, if I paid $50 for a meal, it had better pop me at least into GC! (-:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-06 Thread sharelong60
Steve, D told me it's the hum of the universe. I guess that could change 
perception (-:

[FairfieldLife] Re: BTW, don#39;t bother with BBC America#39;s Atlantis

2013-12-06 Thread sharelong60
Steve, it's great to have you back at the Funny Farm Lounge! Speaking of 
fantasy, my sister and brother in law have convinced me to see Hunger Games 
which I thought was and is for teens. They're pretty picky so it must be 
worthwhile. 

As for Atlantis, it makes sense to me just in context of how the continents 
were connected and then drifted apart, that some land masses were completely 
lost.

Has hockey started up yet?

[FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-05 Thread sharelong60
HI Steve, thanks for sharing a bit of your family celebration. Sounds yummy and 
wonderful. Is Number One son back to school? My godson nephew was home from his 
first semester of college. He seems to like it but I think he misses his 
girlfriend. His older brother is graduating in a couple of weeks and already 
has a job. Yep, everybody is getting older!

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: What I Did Today

2013-12-05 Thread sharelong60
Richard, I don't think it's such a tough crowd once a newbie knows what to 
expect and has a strategy in place.
There's lots of good stuff on FFL, good humor, good knowledge, interesting 
info. Hey, thanks for info about latest Neo glitch. I thought it was my 
computer and or my Mom's network acting up. Go figure!

[FairfieldLife] Re: What I Did Today

2013-12-04 Thread sharelong60
Richard, today I've been in airports, making my way back to FF. Two hour delay 
at BWI which lead to a 4 hour delay at Detroit. But I meditated at Detroit's 
Religious Reflections Room! Now I'm here and sometimes watching people. Keep up 
the good work (-:

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Twelve Tribes of Israel

2013-12-03 Thread sharelong60
turq! This is exactly what you used to say when we were all in Atlantis 
together! PS to emptybill: wonder what they ate for Thanksgiving in Atlantis...
PS to Emily: I never heard of atlantean healing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Twelve Tribes of Israel

2013-12-03 Thread sharelong60
Yowza! turq, you did look good in those red robes! I bet I'm still working off 
the karma from those thoughts!

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why FFL isn#39;t more interesting, in one graphic

2013-12-02 Thread sharelong60
Emily, thanks for making it simple for me. Since I'm with my family I don't 
have as much time as usual to read and respond on FFL. Yes, I think Judy used 
qualifiers in the example she gave. 

 

 What I mainly remember is how she initially responded and how she continues to 
write to and about me. All that outweighs that example she posted.
 

 I don't think we are ever going to agree about all this. In that light, I 
think it's more beneficial for everyone to simply move on to more interesting 
topics and let all that go. I also recognize that Judy doesn't intend to do 
this and I'll deal with that as best as I can from day to day.  

 

 IT'S JUST A CHAT ROOM!

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:

 Well, I couldn't figure out my question either.  Let me rephrase:  Share, do 
you agree that Judy *did* include qualifiers, including the one you 
specifically mention (sounds like) in the section of said post below that I 
have copied to this one? 
 

 Share, this is a yes/no question. I won't take it any further, I promise.  I'm 
paying attention to the feedback I'm getting on how I have been unfairly 
critiquing you, and even worse, I am doing this as a non-TM'er!  
 

 It is true. I am, in fact, the only person posting here currently who has no 
affiliation with TM, past or present.  I am checking the akashic records to 
make sure that past really means past.  I will consult with a fortune 
teller to determine whether this may be part of my future.  In the meantime, I 
am filling out an application for resident alien status and I will get my 
jyotish astrological chart read to glean the most fortuitous time to submit it. 
 Why would I go to all this trouble?  Well, there is a reason.  I think God may 
have something to do with it, but I will do a little prayer and meditation on 
the whole affair before I get back to Bhairitu and Emptybill on their very 
astute questions; I have been here for between 2-3 years now.  I *have* been 
thinking about it, but I'm not that impressed with my mind, honestly. The 
answer will come and it must be more than I have a right to be here.  
 

 

 Judy presented:   
 

 But this is what I want to discuss with you today, since you didn't respond to 
what I told you yesterday. You wrote:
 

  She said that I did such and such in my post to RWC. She
  did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds like or
  even I think.
 

 In fact, I said:
 

 After all the lovely conversations you'd had with
 him, covering a wide range of themes, that you had
 decided you were going to suspend communications
 altogether because of a single remark sure sounded
 like you had felt seriously insulted.
 

 AND:
 

 Because this post sure doesn't sound to me as
 though you want to do anything but beat up on Robin,
 even after he's taken the blame on himself for *your*
 misunderstanding and apologized at length.
 

 Then you wrote:
 

  Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. She just 
  declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my 
  head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling.
 

 In fact, I said:
 

 And now you seem to feel even more seriously
 insulted that he's left you a public apology.
 

 AND:
 

 I couldn't figure out either what your problem
 was with what he had said.
 

 AND:
 

 For the life of me, I can't see why you're being so
 snarky.
 

 Now, let's see if you can bring yourself to acknowledge that what you claimed 
yesterday about my September 9 post was not true. (Let's just look at what you 
said about it yesterday, and not try to avoid that issue by shifting attention 
to the merits of the arguments back then, OK?)
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Emily, if you'll forgive me, I can't figure out what this question means; I 
wouldn't blame Share if she couldn't either: 
 

 Emily wrote:
  Here is a second question for you:  How to you remember the posts that Judy 
  wrote differently than she 
  wrote them?  No, this is not a setup.  I am genuinely curious and will take 
  what you say at face value.


 

 



RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE

2013-12-01 Thread sharelong60
Judy, what do you mean by: taken severely to task and strong community 
disapproval? Those parts weren't  clear yet imo they are what drives you. 

 

 As best as I can I've read all the posts on this topic. I agree with another 
poster in that I think people are basically honest. I think they have faulty 
memories, etc. That's all that happened with regards to my recent post.
 

 When you don't like someone, you turn even their spelling mistakes into 
indications of a deep seated character flaw! Now even Emily is so eager to be 
negative towards me that she criticized my using the term half sister to refer 
to the woman with whom I have the same father but a different mother! If that 
isn't gratuitous criticism, I don't know what is!

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 On other forums I've been on, dishonest posts were criticized and the 
dishonest posters taken severely to task by the rest of the group. (On 
moderated forums, repeat offenders were warned once or twice, then thrown off 
the forum if the bad behavior continued. I don't recommend that for FFL; I 
think strong community disapproval would greatly reduce the dishonesty 
quotient. I mention banning only to point out that many folks consider 
dishonesty to be utterly unacceptable.)
 

 Is that clear enough for you? This is a supposedly spiritually oriented forum. 
It seems to me that if spirituality is about anything, it's about being 
truthful. If honesty isn't held as a value, what can it possibly mean to be 
spiritual?
 

 I note that you have not commented on the exposure of the dishonesty in your 
recent post quoted below. Should I assume this means you think it was perfectly 
OK to describe it knowingly inaccurately?
 

 Share wondered:
 
  Judy, what's the action step? What is it that you'd like to see happen? 
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 See, this is what happens when a group tolerates dishonesty. When there are no 
sanctions against it, not even disapproval, even the weaker members start using 
dishonesty to justify themselves, as Share does here. The more people who feel 
safe being dishonest, the more a mythical, false story about the group and its 
members and interactions takes shape and displaces the real one. History, as 
they say, is written by the winners, so those who care about having an accurate 
history need to ensure the liars don't win.
 

 Here's the post in question; decide for yourselves whether Share's description 
of it below is truthful (note the many qualifying phrases that Share flatly 
denies it contained--including, ironically, it sounds like, which she 
specifically mentions below):
 

 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/319521 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/319521

 

 Plus which, as I've pointed out before, Share had gotten on my bad side well 
before this.
  

 Share lied:

  Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such 
  and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it 
  sounds like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such 
  and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see 
  inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and 
  feeling. I had never experienced someone communicating like that. It was 
  like a foreign language and as such, I didn't even know how to respond. 

 I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In 
 fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with 
 everyone.
 

 


 






RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE

2013-11-30 Thread sharelong60
Judy, what's the action step? What is it that you'd like to see happen? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 See, this is what happens when a group tolerates dishonesty. When there are no 
sanctions against it, not even disapproval, even the weaker members start using 
dishonesty to justify themselves, as Share does here. The more people who feel 
safe being dishonest, the more a mythical, false story about the group and its 
members and interactions takes shape and displaces the real one. History, as 
they say, is written by the winners, so those who care about having an accurate 
history need to ensure the liars don't win.
 

 Here's the post in question; decide for yourselves whether Share's description 
of it below is truthful (note the many qualifying phrases that Share flatly 
denies it contained--including, ironically, it sounds like, which she 
specifically mentions below):
 

 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/319521 
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/319521

 

 Plus which, as I've pointed out before, Share had gotten on my bad side well 
before this.
  

 Share lied:

  Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such 
  and such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it 
  sounds like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such 
  and such. She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see 
  inside my head and know, without error, what I had been thinking and 
  feeling. I had never experienced someone communicating like that. It was 
  like a foreign language and as such, I didn't even know how to respond. 

 I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In 
 fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with 
 everyone.
 

 


 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Judy Stein#39;s Definition Of What Constitutes A LIE

2013-11-30 Thread sharelong60
Thanks, Ann, I trust most of the posters here and or enjoy their posts. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Share, take a moment and have a care. You are moving into some dangerous 
territory for yourself as an individual and as a human being. Be careful that 
you do not use the mistaken and erroneous notions of your faux friend Barry and 
your well-intentioned but not-really-helping-you associate Feste to launch into 
this head space of yours. I don't think it is a healthy one or somewhere that 
is characterized by what is real or what is true.
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy first ran her number on me on Sept 9, 2012. She said that I did such and 
such in my post to RWC. She did not qualify with in my opinion or it sounds 
like or even I think. Of course she didn't ask me if I was doing such and such. 
She just declared that I did such and such as if she could see inside my head 
and know, without error, what I had been thinking and feeling. I had never 
experienced someone communicating like that. It was like a foreign language and 
as such, I didn't even know how to respond. 

I've come to think that no matter what anyone says, Judy will not change. In 
fact, I've come to think that she likes it when she has to fight with everyone.
 

 
 
 On Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:19 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:
 
   Because, despite my nearly two decades of trying to educate people --
 first on alt.meditation.transcendental and now on Fairfield Life -- as
 to what a LIE is, I find many of them still confused. Because it is my
 God-given duty and dharma to be the Keeper Of The Truth, I felt I should
 write a short manifesto explaining to these retards what exactly a LIE
 is, so they can recognize when they're doing it, and thus LYING.
 
 * Disagreeing with me on *any* subject about which I am posing as an
 expert -- even if they have experienced the phenomenon or SoC or events
 being discussed and I have only read about them or heard about them --
 is a lie. I am RIGHT, and they are WRONG, and to be WRONG is to LIE.
 
 * Holding a different opinion of me, my behavior, and the motives for my
 behavior than I hold is a LIE. I *know* The Truth about myself, my
 behavior, and my motives, and if they hold a different view, and express
 it despite my corrections, they're LYING.
 
 * Saying something negative about someone I regard as a friend (even
 though I've never met them and never will) or as an ally (the enemy of
 my enemy is my friend) is a LIE. I will defend these allies to the
 death, and make excuses for *their* LIES with the same vehemence with
 which I put down the LIES of those who persecute them.
 
 * Saying something positive about someone I view negatively is by
 definition a LIE. The very fact that they don't see this person the way
 I see them reveals how REEAALLLY REEAALLLY STOOOPID they are, and how
 smart and superior I am. If they persist in viewing these hooligans
 positively in the face of my corrections, they're LYING, pure and
 simple.
 
 * Suggesting that *I* have LIED is even more by definition a LIE,
 because as we all know, I DON'T LIE. I have declared this, so it is
 TRUE, and never to be contradicted. I am the ONLY person on this forum
 who cares about The Truth, as well as the ONLY person who *knows* The
 Truth. Challenge this at your own peril, you LIARS!
 
 * Claiming that I persecute or harass people by posting literally
 hundreds of posts ragging on them per year -- year after year -- is a
 LIE. I am merely pursuing my dharma, which is to be the Keeper Of The
 Truth. They *deserve* my invective and my continued attention; I am
 trying to *help* them by revealing to them what big, fat LIARS they are,
 and trying to help them see The Truth. Which is that they should always
 agree with me, of course.
 
 * Whenever I criticize or make negative comments about someone, these
 things should be viewed as The Truth that they are. Challenging them or
 disagreeing with them is by definition a LIE. Furthermore, when I say
 these things about someone else, that person *owes me* a point-by-point
 response to all the things I *know* about them because these things are
 The Truth. When someone says something negative about me, I owe them
 nothing but to call them what they are -- a LIAR. See my responses to
 Richard for the template.
 
 * Laughing at me and my behavior is a particularly insidious form of
 LIE. I *know* The Truth, About Almost Everything, and so my words must
 be treated with the level of respect and awe I expect. Anything less is
 a kind of implicit LIE, a suggestion that I don't really *know* the
 things I claim to know, and that I'm just spouting opinion, like
 everyone else here. I am NOT like everyone else here; I'm better,
 smarter, and always RIGHT. Dispute this in any way, and you're LYING.
 
 * Finally, writing something and attributing it to me as if I had
 written it -- no matter how

RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-11-23 Thread sharelong60
Judy, we remember it differently. Several articles about faulty memories have 
been posted recently. I think they apply also. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Share doubles down on her lie:
 

  RWC and I had our big upset on Sept 6 and then Dudy butted in on Sept 9. 
  Before that we 
  all got along.
 
 

 No, we did not all get along before that.
 

 
  Dudy even warned me once when I was new and almost posted out.
 
 
 You really just have to be amazed at her brazenness. No conscience. Yes, 
Quare, when you were new, before it was clear what a crappy human being you 
were, I did do you that favor. Complete non sequitur in this context, as you 
know.

 

 

 On Friday, November 22, 2013 5:15 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Share lied:
 

  September 9, 2012, Richard, that's when Judy started her mission, whatever 
  it is.
 

 This is a deliberate falsehood. As Share very well knows (and as I've reminded 
her over the past few days), she had run afoul of me (and Ann and Emily) well 
before her big mess-up with Robin. Those occasions were marked by her standard 
tactics: obfuscation, disingenuity, and refusal to take responsibility for her 
behavior (as she does above).
 

 

 
 










 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-11-22 Thread sharelong60
Wow, Judy, vulgarity and violence in one post! Instinctive taking down of 
nastiness quotient?! Oh right, it's hard for you to not be nasty, etc. when 
dealing with someone like me. My bad!  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, God, I love it. Share gets her tits caught in her very own wringer.
 

 She accuses me of being disloyal by not warning indiff he was messing up, 
then, thinking she's catching me in a lie, cites a post documenting that I did 
warn him he risked being thrown out, way back toward the beginning of his visit 
here. (And if she wanted to look further she'd find that my first couple of 
posts to him also warned him about not getting folks' backs up.)
 

 After I'd warned him, I stopped paying attention to his exchanges with empty 
and didn't post to him again until the one Share cites. Following that he made 
another couple of dozen posts before Rick threw him out, mostly back-and-forth 
with empty. I didn't pay any attention to those either.
 

 So Share, I await your apology. I'm sure you'll do the right thing. Good luck 
prying your tits loose.
 

 (guffaw)
 

 

 Share messes up badly:

  Judy claims she wasn't paying attention to indiff's exchange with emptybill. 
  Yet see post 
  #363507 excerpted below. So much for Judy's continuing claim to honesty.
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:


 For the record, indiff, I didn't say you were So-and-so, I said you sounded 
like So-and-so. And then when you threatened to out emptybill, I mentioned that 
this guy So-and-so had been thrown off the forum for outing somebody.
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Let me clarify this issue again since even Judy seems to have gotten confused 
here.
 

 I'm using an pseudonym for a reason, to clearly post anonymously. You may 
recognize my energy, my writing style but you are not supposed to reveal my 
first name or any other details.
 

 But this dumb retarded motherfucker emptybill seems to have lot of trouble 
understanding it. He spouts and spews scriptures but lacks the normal maturity 
and intelligence of an adult and I have always given him a free pass in the 
past since I understand his disability. He thinks he can indulge in dishonesty 
like referring me as a troll, telling me that one cannot discuss Amma here, 
that I have been kicked off other forums and some other retarded bullshit.

 On Thursday, November 21, 2013 9:08 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   I wasn't paying any attention to his exchange with emptybill..As you know, 
I've jumped on him other times when I thought he was out of line.
 

 As to my opinion of you, as you also know, that was formed well before you 
disgraced yourself with Robin.
 

 So you can take your dishonest, nasty, mean, hypocritical little thoughts and 
shove them where the sun don't shine.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 So Judy, were you being disloyal recently when you didn't let indiff know that 
he was messing up badly? Or you didn't think he was messing up badly? 

 

 IMO the disparity between how you treated him and how you treated me clearly 
indicates that you are prejudiced against me and not the upholder of truth and 
reality that you continually present yourself as. 

 

 My guess is you are still against me because of the situation between me and 
RWC that began Sept 2012.
 That's your choice. But when I think you are being prejudicial, I will say so.

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 We'll probably have to agree to disagree, but it seems to me disloyal to not 
let a friend know when you feel they've messed up badly. (I'm not suggesting 
constant niggling criticism about little stuff, idiosyncrasies and so on.)
 

 Feste wrote:

 Loyalty toward friends seems to me a better approach than criticizing them. 
It's got nothing to do with fear. 

 

 You are probably right about the recent banning of that poster. You are not 
abusive in the way that he was. You do it in your own style. I actually like 
you, authfriend, but your vendetta against Share leaves a bad taste in the 
mouth and I think you should tone it down. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 You don't criticize your friends? Even if they deserve it? Interesting. Why 
not? Are you afraid if you do, they'll no longer be your friends? Because I'd 
say it's not much of a friendship that can't survive honest criticism.
 

 I'm not going to go into a long defense, but your description below of both my 
and Share's behavior is significantly inaccurate. (If I were to take Share's 
line, I'd point out that as a friend of Share, you're biased, and therefore I 
don't consider anything you have to say about this to be worthwhile.)
 

 Also, the banning of indifferent_netizen is not a precedent for banning me. In 
the first place, we don't know why he was banned; Rick didn't tell us. I'm 
guessing

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Church of England Paves Way for Women Bishops in 2014

2013-11-22 Thread sharelong60
Some time ago I read a fascinating book explaining that both Mary and her 
mother Ann were Essenes. I bet the Church, especially after St. Paul, didn't 
want THAT to be revealed! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 Re Yes, the archetype being depicted may be the same.  But one is a true 
character in history and the other is a myth.:
 

 Yes, but Isis was there first! And myth is a loaded word. The stories told 
about Isis are intended to point to vital truths about our condition.
 

 Mary was a real human being and the mother of a famous rabbi - but all the 
veneration in which she is held didn't exist in the Early Church. As the 
Church's teaching sidelined the feminine it eventually became necessary to 
project onto the character in history attributes that had been assigned to 
mother goddesses across the ancient world.
 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

  S3,
 

 Yes, the archetype being depicted may be the same.  But one is a true 
character in history and the other is a myth.  This is the reason why I made a 
post a few days ago about the world as a hologram.  IOW, a piece of our world 
whether real or imaginary/myth is a reflection of the absolute, not the 
archetype.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 Re  . . . the Blessed Virgin Mary . . . why bother with Isis:
 Because they are different expressions of the same Goddess archetype. A Google 
brings up this comparison:
 

 Isis was the most prominent female figure in ancient Egyptian religion. Mary 
is the most important female figure in Christianity. Isis had a son named 
Horus. Mary had a son named Jesus. When Horus was born, his father, Osirus, was 
already dead, which is very much like the birth of Jesus, fathered by the Holy 
Ghost. Both Isis and Mary are depicted in art as being maternal and holding 
their infant deities. Isis protected Horus from an evil uncle, which was much 
like Mary protecting Jesus from King Herod. Both Isis and Mary have primary 
roles in their respective religious movements as the eternal mother. “Lady of 
Light” is a title given to both Mary and Isis. The infant Horus was born as the 
god of light for Egypt, while Jesus is known as the light of the world. Isis 
has a solar disk of light over her head and Mary has a halo of light above her 
head. 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

  S3,
 

 The Catholic Church already has a special place for the Blessed Virgin Mary.  
She is considered the Mother of God.  And she was assumed to Heaven body and 
soul.
 

 So, why bother with Isis who was a pagan goddess of myth?
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 Re women cannot be priests:
 

 Can I propose an alternative approach? What's wrong with women being 
*priestesses*?! That was the honourable title they were given in the pagan 
world of antiquity.
 

 It strikes me that the Christian churches are so male-oriented that trying to 
include female priests and bishops is really to try and include women who 
happen to imitate more or less successfully their male colleagues. Is that 
really desirable or feasible in an institution that for millennia has been 
dominated by a male ethos? Isn't it asking women to essentially conform to male 
values?
 

 But, on the other hand, do we really want to exclude women from having a 
central role in our religious life?
 

 Is their a solution to this dilemma? What about this: the Christian churches 
continue in having only male priests and bishops - and exclude women. That fits 
naturally with their historical story and avoids embarrassing admissions that 
they've been wrong for 2,000 years!
 

 But how about this: women develop their own religious ceremonies and practices 
outside the Christian dispensation but alongside the male bias of Christian 
churches and thus run in parallel - not as opponents but as adding a 
complementary aspect. I have in mind someone like Olivia Robertson, (who died 
last week!). She was an author, artist, co-founder and high priestess of the 
Fellowship of Isis, an international spiritual organisation devoted to 
promoting awareness of the feminine aspect of the divine. The Fellowship of 
Isis has thousands of members worldwide. Take  a peek here:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1PFYQOn4DI 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1PFYQOn4DI

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Religion will stand for nothing if its foundational principles are that gay 
people are not permitted to marry, or that women cannot be priests, or other 
small-minded obsessions with sex and gender.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Little sheep that have lost their way, is all! Pretty soon Religion will stand 
for nothing.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Actually, more and more religionists are supporting gay marriage, exactly 
because they believe that to be 

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-11-21 Thread sharelong60
So Judy, were you being disloyal recently when you didn't let indiff know that 
he was messing up badly? Or you didn't think he was messing up badly? 

 

 IMO the disparity between how you treated him and how you treated me clearly 
indicates that you are prejudiced against me and not the upholder of truth and 
reality that you continually present yourself as. 

 

 My guess is you are still against me because of the situation between me and 
RWC that began Sept 2012.
 That's your choice. But when I think you are being prejudicial, I will say so.

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 We'll probably have to agree to disagree, but it seems to me disloyal to not 
let a friend know when you feel they've messed up badly. (I'm not suggesting 
constant niggling criticism about little stuff, idiosyncrasies and so on.)
 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Loyalty toward friends seems to me a better approach than criticizing them. 
It's got nothing to do with fear. 

 

 You are probably right about the recent banning of that poster. You are not 
abusive in the way that he was. You do it in your own style. I actually like 
you, authfriend, but your vendetta against Share leaves a bad taste in the 
mouth and I think you should tone it down. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 You don't criticize your friends? Even if they deserve it? Interesting. Why 
not? Are you afraid if you do, they'll no longer be your friends? Because I'd 
say it's not much of a friendship that can't survive honest criticism.
 

 I'm not going to go into a long defense, but your description below of both my 
and Share's behavior is significantly inaccurate. (If I were to take Share's 
line, I'd point out that as a friend of Share, you're biased, and therefore I 
don't consider anything you have to say about this to be worthwhile.)
 

 Also, the banning of indifferent_netizen is not a precedent for banning me. In 
the first place, we don't know why he was banned; Rick didn't tell us. I'm 
guessing it was for threatening to out emptybill, something I have never done 
to anyone. In the second place, I have never spoken to anyone on this forum 
anything like the way indiff spoke to emptybill--or the way emptybilll spoke to 
indiff, for that matter.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 To be honest, I didn't care for that post of Share's, but Share is my friend 
and I do not criticize my friends. 

 

 You have been pursuing a vendetta against Share for more than a year now, I 
would guess. She has dealt with you mostly in a civil fashion and has even 
tried to engage you in friendly conversation. But your hostility and abuse has 
been relentless. Were I the moderator of this forum, I would issue you with a 
warning to stop the repeated abuse of one member or face expulsion. Then if you 
did not comply I would remove you from this forum. There is already a precedent 
for that with the poster who was recently banned. 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 You know, I don't choose my words at random. I never said my description 
applied to all my posts; I never said none of my posts were nasty or vicious. I 
stand by what I did say, however.
 

 I've never pretended to be saintly, but I do not, in fact, love to be mean, 
nasty, and vicious. I do find it very hard not to be when dealing with an 
individual like Share. 
 

 Just out of curiosity, what do you think about Share's attack on Ann, 
comparing her to a Nazi and disparaging her appearance because Ann wrote a 
funny parody of one of Share's posts? Let's see how honest you are.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
 Yep, here's authfriend taking the nasty/vicious quotient of [her] opponent's 
posts down a level:

 

 Share snarled:
 Share pleaded:
 Share babbled:
 Share spewed:
 Share blubbered:
 Share bleated:
 

 All from recent posts. Why can't you be honest about what you do, authfriend? 
You are always babbling/spewing/blubbering/snarling about how honest you are 
and how dishonest your opponents are, but why can't you just admit that you 
love to be mean, nasty, and vicious? You get pleasure out of it, which is why 
you do it on this forum day after day, week after week, month after month, year 
after year. It satisfies something inside you, although what that might be, 
only you know.  

 

 

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 I think in the heat of battle, as it were, the other guy--and/or his or her 
supporters--often experiences my posts to be much more nasty and vicious than 
they actually are. I'm frequently surprised when I reread my own posts from 
some epic argument to realize how restrained they were and how I instinctively 
took the nasty/vicious quotient of my opponent's posts down a level with each 
response rather than escalating it.
 

 I 

[FairfieldLife] RE: Church of England Paves Way for Women Bishops in 2014

2013-11-21 Thread sharelong60
John, it's about time! As for the Catholic Church, I wonder who would protest 
more, the clergy in power or the conservative laity, including nuns. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

 This appears to be the trend among Protestant Christian churches.  But one 
wonders if the Catholic Church would ever accept women as priests. 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/church-england-paves-way-women-bishops-2014-142619228.html
 
http://news.yahoo.com/church-england-paves-way-women-bishops-2014-142619228.html





[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Mean Girls -- the research

2013-11-20 Thread sharelong60
Ann, I saw your photo after I read your post ridiculing me so your Politically 
Correct answers are wasted on me. Like the one you foisted on Ravi about why 
you didn't meet with him in person. He's still simpering after you and calling 
you dear Ann all the time so I guess you were successful in that instance. And 
if you really wanted to send me a photo of the scenery, why didn't you? Are you 
really telling me that your photographer husband didn't take any of just the 
scenery?!
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 That is my happy look Share, you should see me when I'm mad! I'm also looking 
at the man I most love in the world at that moment surrounded by the pristine 
beauty of British Columbia in celebration of two birthdays. Focus on the 
scenery, that is what I most wanted to show you. Of course it isn't as 
interesting as pictures of the strip malls in Texas but then there's no 
accounting for taste and perception. Is Knowledge Structured in Consciousness 
do you think? 
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 And this post from Share tells us absolutely everything we need to know about 
what kind of human being she is. Of course she hasn't the foggiest idea how 
revealing it is of the accuracy of the criticisms and ridicule that have been 
directed her way. 
 

Share spewed:
 turq, coincidentally I read this right after seeing the picture of herself 
that Ann posted. Lightbulb! I had been wondering why someone with such a 
reportedly wonderful life like hers could write such nasty, posts ridiculing 
me. Then I saw that picture of her looking like, IMO, an SS commando with 
tight, smug smile, cocky posture and judgmental eyes. I don't wonder anymore. 
I've heard that by the age of 40 a woman has the face she deserves. Judging by 
her nasty posts towards me, I'd say that's quite true of Ann and her face.
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:
 
   Hey, I didn't write it. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html 


 
 
 

 
 





 
 
 
 










 




[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mean Girls -- the research

2013-11-20 Thread sharelong60
turq, you're wrong. Ann started it by writing a post ridiculing me under the 
thread What I Did Today. She's very good IMO at presenting herself nicely after 
she's been nasty. Neither she nor Judy has the integrity to acknowledge this 
other post.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 Share, YOU started this latest round of Mean Girls Dumping On You. Not
 them.
 
 You didn't *have* to comment on Ann's photo, let alone try to rope me
 into it by addressing me directly. I didn't reply 1) because I
 disagreed, and thought it was a fairly nice photo of Ann enjoying
 nature, and 2) because I knew what would happen, and WHY it was going to
 happen.
 
 YOU started up the fray again. As far as I can tell, you were getting
 antsy with them NOT dumping on you for a couple of days, after I posted
 the number of times they have done so since August, and them laying low
 as a result. You missed the attention, so you tried to provoke them.
 And, of course, it worked.
 
 So much for my belief that you -- out of the four of you old biddies who
 have nothing to do but subject the rest of us to your petty dislikes and
 grudges -- could be appealed to.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Share Long wrote:
 
  Judy in her cunning way has completely ignored the nasty, ridiculing
 post that Ann wrote. Which shows the depth of Judy's dishonesty. Or
 perhaps at this point she's simply totally self deluded about her
 alleged honesty.
 
  Also notice how she attempts to justify the deluge of negativity the
 MGC has directed at me over the past year.
 
  Also notice that if I'm positive, then according to Judy, I'm
 pandering. But if I stand up to their ridicule, then according to her, I
 deserved it retroactively!
 
  This is why I will never see Judy as the paragon of honesty that she's
 so desperate to present herself as.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:14 AM, awoelflebater@...
 awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
  That is my happy look Share, you should see me when I'm mad! I'm also
 looking at the man I most love in the world at that moment surrounded by
 the pristine beauty of British Columbia in celebration of two birthdays.
 Focus on the scenery, that is what I most wanted to show you. Of course
 it isn't as interesting as pictures of the strip malls in Texas but then
 there's no accounting for taste and perception. Is Knowledge Structured
 in Consciousness do you think?Â
 
 
  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
  authfriend@ wrote:
 
 
  And this post from Share tells us absolutely everything we need to
 know about what kind of human being she is. Of course she hasn't the
 foggiest idea how revealing it is of the accuracy of the criticisms and
 ridicule that have been directed her way.Â
 
 
  Share spewed:
 
  turq, coincidentally I read this right after seeing the picture of
 herself that Ann posted. Lightbulb! I had been wondering why someone
 with such a reportedly wonderful life like hers could write such nasty,
 posts ridiculing me. Then I saw that picture of her looking like, IMO,
 an SS commando with tight, smug smile, cocky posture and judgmental
 eyes. I don't wonder anymore. I've heard that by the age of 40 a woman
 has the face she deserves. Judging by her nasty posts towards me, I'd
 say that's quite true of Ann and her face.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
 
  Â
  Hey, I didn't write it.
 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.htm\ 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.htm\
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Mean Girls -- the research

2013-11-20 Thread sharelong60
No Ann, it wasn't just your photo that I replied to. It was the combo of your 
nice photo with your previous nasty post.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Ann, I saw your photo after I read your post ridiculing me so your Politically 
Correct answers are wasted on me. Like the one you foisted on Ravi about why 
you didn't meet with him in person. He's still simpering after you and calling 
you dear Ann all the time so I guess you were successful in that instance. And 
if you really wanted to send me a photo of the scenery, why didn't you? Are you 
really telling me that your photographer husband didn't take any of just the 
scenery?!
 

 See later post of two pictures for you of just the scenery. If I had any clue 
that this photo of mine would have elicited such a fascinating response from 
you I would have posted an album's worth! Your response spoke volumes to me and 
I couldn't even see your angelic face.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 That is my happy look Share, you should see me when I'm mad! I'm also looking 
at the man I most love in the world at that moment surrounded by the pristine 
beauty of British Columbia in celebration of two birthdays. Focus on the 
scenery, that is what I most wanted to show you. Of course it isn't as 
interesting as pictures of the strip malls in Texas but then there's no 
accounting for taste and perception. Is Knowledge Structured in Consciousness 
do you think? 
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 And this post from Share tells us absolutely everything we need to know about 
what kind of human being she is. Of course she hasn't the foggiest idea how 
revealing it is of the accuracy of the criticisms and ridicule that have been 
directed her way. 
 

Share spewed:
 turq, coincidentally I read this right after seeing the picture of herself 
that Ann posted. Lightbulb! I had been wondering why someone with such a 
reportedly wonderful life like hers could write such nasty, posts ridiculing 
me. Then I saw that picture of her looking like, IMO, an SS commando with 
tight, smug smile, cocky posture and judgmental eyes. I don't wonder anymore. 
I've heard that by the age of 40 a woman has the face she deserves. Judging by 
her nasty posts towards me, I'd say that's quite true of Ann and her face.
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:
 
   Hey, I didn't write it. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html 


 
 
 

 
 





 
 
 
 










 








[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Re: Mean Girls -- the research

2013-11-20 Thread sharelong60
Ann, imo you have a *gift* for especially nasty ridiculing of people. And my 
sense of humor is fine. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 turq, you're wrong. Ann started it by writing a post ridiculing me under the 
thread What I Did Today. She's very good IMO at presenting herself nicely after 
she's been nasty. Neither she nor Judy has the integrity to acknowledge this 
other post.

 

 Share, here is the thing. Yes I goof on you, yes it may seem like my intention 
is to ridicule, yes I was making fun of your post to Richard about the Whole 
foods thing. But come on, get a grip. You claim to love the smorgasbord that is 
FFL, you say you like the personal challenges you encounter here. Who is exempt 
from name calling, chastising, rudeness, misunderstanding or downright verbal 
abuse (as opposed to psychological rape) here on this forum? NO ONE. I am sorry 
if you are not getting the support you had hoped for your interesting take on 
my face in the photo (comprising about 1/100th of the image space BTW) but you 
are certainly welcome to your opinion about my Nazi-like stance and demeanor as 
wrong as I think it may be. However, your hostility was evident and that is 
also fine, as long as you are willing to admit ownership of it. I don't blame 
you for despising me, I get it and I probably deserve it but be straight for a 
change and own up.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 Share, YOU started this latest round of Mean Girls Dumping On You. Not
 them.
 
 You didn't *have* to comment on Ann's photo, let alone try to rope me
 into it by addressing me directly. I didn't reply 1) because I
 disagreed, and thought it was a fairly nice photo of Ann enjoying
 nature, and 2) because I knew what would happen, and WHY it was going to
 happen.
 
 YOU started up the fray again. As far as I can tell, you were getting
 antsy with them NOT dumping on you for a couple of days, after I posted
 the number of times they have done so since August, and them laying low
 as a result. You missed the attention, so you tried to provoke them.
 And, of course, it worked.
 
 So much for my belief that you -- out of the four of you old biddies who
 have nothing to do but subject the rest of us to your petty dislikes and
 grudges -- could be appealed to.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Share Long wrote:
 
  Judy in her cunning way has completely ignored the nasty, ridiculing
 post that Ann wrote. Which shows the depth of Judy's dishonesty. Or
 perhaps at this point she's simply totally self deluded about her
 alleged honesty.
 
  Also notice how she attempts to justify the deluge of negativity the
 MGC has directed at me over the past year.
 
  Also notice that if I'm positive, then according to Judy, I'm
 pandering. But if I stand up to their ridicule, then according to her, I
 deserved it retroactively!
 
  This is why I will never see Judy as the paragon of honesty that she's
 so desperate to present herself as.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:14 AM, awoelflebater@...
 awoelflebater@... wrote:
 
  That is my happy look Share, you should see me when I'm mad! I'm also
 looking at the man I most love in the world at that moment surrounded by
 the pristine beauty of British Columbia in celebration of two birthdays.
 Focus on the scenery, that is what I most wanted to show you. Of course
 it isn't as interesting as pictures of the strip malls in Texas but then
 there's no accounting for taste and perception. Is Knowledge Structured
 in Consciousness do you think?Â
 
 
  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
  authfriend@ wrote:
 
 
  And this post from Share tells us absolutely everything we need to
 know about what kind of human being she is. Of course she hasn't the
 foggiest idea how revealing it is of the accuracy of the criticisms and
 ridicule that have been directed her way.Â
 
 
  Share spewed:
 
  turq, coincidentally I read this right after seeing the picture of
 herself that Ann posted. Lightbulb! I had been wondering why someone
 with such a reportedly wonderful life like hers could write such nasty,
 posts ridiculing me. Then I saw that picture of her looking like, IMO,
 an SS commando with tight, smug smile, cocky posture and judgmental
 eyes. I don't wonder anymore. I've heard that by the age of 40 a woman
 has the face she deserves. Judging by her nasty posts towards me, I'd
 say that's quite true of Ann and her face.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:45 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
 
  Â
  Hey, I didn't write it.
 
 
 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.htm\ 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.htm\
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RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Mean Girls -- the research

2013-11-20 Thread sharelong60
Richard, thanks for the comic relief. And btw, you started the other thread 
that's generating so much heat today. Go figure! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Just a reminder: Turq started this thread. LoL!
 
 On 11/20/2013 10:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:
 
  Ann, imo you have a *gift* for especially nasty ridiculing of people.
 And my sense of humor is fine.
 
 None of the three of you (I'm cutting Emily a break because she isn't
 part of this latest outbreak of Junior High School nonsense) is worth
 pissing on. If you're all intent upon demonstrating how petty and
 idiotic you are, couldn't you possibly do it via email? Doing it here is
 rather discourteous to the rest of the people on this forum, who don't
 really give a shit who is winning these imaginary battles going on in
 your silly, vindictive little heads.
 
 Share, you *could* have just ignored anything Ann or Judy said about
 you. But n. You had to start things up again, so that again
 you're the focus of attention. I'm back to my original advice: SHUT THE
 FUCK UP!
 
  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  awoelflebater@ wrote:
 
  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  turq, you're wrong. Ann started it by writing a post ridiculing me
 under the thread What I Did Today. She's very good IMO at presenting
 herself nicely after she's been nasty. Neither she nor Judy has the
 integrity to acknowledge this other post.
 
 
 
  Share, here is the thing. Yes I goof on you, yes it may seem like my
 intention is to ridicule, yes I was making fun of your post to Richard
 about the Whole foods thing. But come on, get a grip. You claim to love
 the smorgasbord that is FFL, you say you like the personal challenges
 you encounter here. Who is exempt from name calling, chastising,
 rudeness, misunderstanding or downright verbal abuse (as opposed to
 psychological rape) here on this forum? NO ONE. I am sorry if you are
 not getting the support you had hoped for your interesting take on my
 face in the photo (comprising about 1/100th of the image space BTW) but
 you are certainly welcome to your opinion about my Nazi-like stance and
 demeanor as wrong as I think it may be. However, your hostility was
 evident and that is also fine, as long as you are willing to admit
 ownership of it. I don't blame you for despising me, I get it and I
 probably deserve it but be straight for a change and own up.
 
 
  ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  turquoiseb@ wrote:
 
  Share, YOU started this latest round of Mean Girls Dumping On You.
 Not
  them.
 
  You didn't *have* to comment on Ann's photo, let alone try to rope me
  into it by addressing me directly. I didn't reply 1) because I
  disagreed, and thought it was a fairly nice photo of Ann enjoying
  nature, and 2) because I knew what would happen, and WHY it was going
 to
  happen.
 
  YOU started up the fray again. As far as I can tell, you were getting
  antsy with them NOT dumping on you for a couple of days, after I
 posted
  the number of times they have done so since August, and them laying
 low
  as a result. You missed the attention, so you tried to provoke them.
  And, of course, it worked.
 
  So much for my belief that you -- out of the four of you old biddies
 who
  have nothing to do but subject the rest of us to your petty dislikes
 and
  grudges -- could be appealed to.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Share Long wrote:
  
   Judy in her cunning way has completely ignored the nasty,
 ridiculing
  post that Ann wrote. Which shows the depth of Judy's dishonesty. Or
  perhaps at this point she's simply totally self deluded about her
  alleged honesty.
  
   Also notice how she attempts to justify the deluge of negativity
 the
  MGC has directed at me over the past year.
  
   Also notice that if I'm positive, then according to Judy, I'm
  pandering. But if I stand up to their ridicule, then according to
 her, I
  deserved it retroactively!
  
   This is why I will never see Judy as the paragon of honesty that
 she's
  so desperate to present herself as.
  
  
  
  
  
   On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:14 AM, awoelflebater@
  awoelflebater@ wrote:
  
   That is my happy look Share, you should see me when I'm mad! I'm
 also
  looking at the man I most love in the world at that moment surrounded
 by
  the pristine beauty of British Columbia in celebration of two
 birthdays.
  Focus on the scenery, that is what I most wanted to show you. Of
 course
  it isn't as interesting as pictures of the strip malls in Texas but
 then
  there's no accounting for taste and perception. Is Knowledge
 Structured
  in Consciousness do you

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Mean Girls -- the research

2013-11-20 Thread sharelong60
imo, RWC is the #1 big reason you all keep attacking me. Expecially you, Judy, 
the number 1 grudge holder maybe on the internet if what others say is true. 
Since that seems to be what's needed to be Queen Bee, I'm happy to let you keep 
that job. As for Emily, why exclude Obbajee and Susan? Except that my exchanges 
with them disproves what Emily initially said about me.
 

 From the beginning I've acknowledged that I have flaws. But Judy, when you 
don't like someone, it's as if you put on black glasses and see the person only 
through them. Worse, you either don't see that you've got the glasses on, or 
you won't admit that you do.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Unlike you, Emily has integrity. So when you claimed that you liked Obbajeeba 
and Susan, she took you at your word and amended what she said about you to 
exclude them. And after she'd done that to accommodate your claim, you accused 
her of saying Obbajeeba and Susan weren't strong and beautiful and demanded 
to know how she accounted for your claim not to be threatened by them--when 
she'd just got done accounting for it.
 

 It's all right here in black and white, Share, but you simply can't 
acknowledge the facts.
 

 One of the big reasons we keep going after you, Share, is because of your 
inability to be straightforward when there's any kind of conflict--one more 
unmistakeable sign that your saintly pose is just that, a pose, not the real 
Share. You twist and obfuscate and conceal and confound and create massive 
muddles to protect yourself from having to deal with reality.
 

 And the reality is, as Emily so aptly points out, that your posts are not 
cute, you are not the Queen Bee of FFL that you'd like to see yourself as.
 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

  I believe Obbajee posted recently and Susan about a month ago. But you both 
  want to 
  exclude them from Emily's assessment for an obvious reason.
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:32 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   No, Share, look for the parenthetical in what Emily wrote. (You know what a 
parenthetical is, right?) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 No, Judy, what's interesting and predictable is that Emily and now you, are 
ignoring the women who disprove what Emily's saying about me.
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:18 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   You appear to have overlooked the parenthetical, Share. Isn't that 
interesting!? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Emily, are you saying that Obbajee and Susan aren't strong and beautiful?! I'm 
not threatened by either of them. How do you account for that? 
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:01 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
 
   This might be the *nastiest* thing I've seen her write.  Share, I say this 
based on the face value of your words, ignoring the energy that accompanies 
them.  You are *not* cute, Share.  I wonder if you have the ability to 
apologize for this?  You are threatened by strong and beautiful women Share 
(the ones that are posting); you want to be a Queen Bee.  You simply aren't.  
Get over it.   
 






 
 
 
 




 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Mean Girls -- the research

2013-11-20 Thread sharelong60
Ah, one of the few times I forget to put imo and Judy lands on it like a tick 
on a hound dog in Alabamie in July! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Says Share, doing her Avoidance Dance. Absolute refusal to deal with the 
reality of the viciousness of her post about Ann.
 

 As to your attempt to change the subject, I do some of what you describe in 
some cases when it appears to apply. Now let's see if you can show the kind of 
integrity Emily did with regard to Obbajeeba and Susan, and amend what you 
wrote so it's not wildly inaccurate. I'm betting you can't.

 

 Oh, and while you're at it, notice how you presented your opinion as fact, as 
you do all too frequently. Hypocrite.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

  Judy if you are against someone, you assert that their faults are the *real 
  person. And you 
  actually revel in seeing those faults. If someone is positive, then you say 
  they are phoney. 
  Worse of all, you over and over present your opinions as facts. 
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:20 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Sorry, Share, but no objective person is going to see your post to Ann as 
anything other than exceptionally nasty, especially given that Ann's post was 
just a funny parody.
 

 No, you haven't claimed sainthood, but the way you behave is clearly 
designed to make you appear to be saintly. That is, except when you lose 
control and behave like a vengeful harpy. The only times you're authentic is 
when you're being venomous and hateful. The saintly act is pathetically, 
creepily phony, and you confirm it's phony when the real Share shows through.
 

 Share excreted:

  Of course this is your opinion, Judy because you are not objective about me 
  or Ann. I've 
  never claimed sainthood. Your projection, your fantasies. 
 

 On Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:21 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Ann has never come anywhere near the vicious nastiness of your attack on her.
 

 Face it, Share, you lost control. You let the mask slip, and we all saw the 
ugliness underneath. It's slipped before and given us glimpses, but now you 
have to live with the knowledge that this time we got a really good look, and 
the faux-sainthood is down the tubes, exposed as a lie.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

  Judy, imo Ann has made plenty of nasty comments to and about me over the 
  past year. 
  MGC members need a taste of their own medicine occasionally. It seems they 
  can dish it 
  out, of course as a gang, but they really can't take it.
 




 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Natural Law of Gettysburg

2013-11-19 Thread sharelong60
Sorry, feste, that's all I got on the story. Probably Charlie said a lot more, 
explaining it more fully. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 If Charlie really said that, it must rank as one of his more idiotic comments. 
It doesn't really make any sense at all, other than the vague idea that unity 
must be a good thing.  

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 What powerful words from a beautiful soul. Thanks for posting, Buck. Years ago 
I heard through the grapevine that Charlie Lutes said the national deva lives 
at the Lincoln Memorial in DC. Because Lincoln preserved the unity of this 
country and unity is its destiny. 
 

 
 
 On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 5:55 AM, dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... 
wrote:
 
   The Unified Field,
 Extending Equal Rights to All
 November 19, 1863.

 

 The great initiator, 150 years ago:
 

 Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a 
new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men 
are created equal.
 Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any 
nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great 
battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a 
final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might 
live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
 But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not 
hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have 
consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will 
little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what 
they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the 
unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It 
is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before 
us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for 
which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve 
that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall 
have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, 
for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Minion Koan

2013-11-17 Thread sharelong60
Judy, I don't believe I suggested that you did, did I? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 I don't believe I suggested parents were the only source of stress and trauma 
during childhood, did I?
 

 Share blubbered:

  That's great Judy. But parents aren't the only sources of stress and trauma 
  in 
  childhood.
 



 
 
 On Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:47 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   P.S.: You're quite right about my childhood, albeit not in the way you hope. 
I had a happy, stress-free childhood with two parents who loved me deeply and 
steadfastly. They passed on their own devotion to authenticity and loathing of 
phoniness to me.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 (snicker) Thanks for proving my point, Share. You're so dependable in that 
regard.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, imo your self righteousness with regards to authenticity is itself proof 
of over compensation. Your alleged devotion to authenticity and your opinions 
of me also imo are both results of your childhood. And that's all I'm going to 
say.
 

 
 
 On Saturday, November 16, 2013 11:10 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Let me just put it this way, Share. I think your actual motivations for the 
way you respond to people are quite different from what you claim. I think most 
of your behavior on FFL is carefully tailored to attempt to make people think 
highly of you. The problem is that when your control slips, you show a 
completely different face.
 

 That's all I'll say for now, except to note that the quality in people I value 
most highly is authenticity, and the quality I most despise is lack of same. An 
inauthentic pose of virtue, as far as I'm concerned, is far more reprehensible 
than an authentic, let-it-all-hang-out display of vice.
 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Judy, a way more interesting question imho is why do you even care what I 
think turq thinks. Should I even feed your strange interest by answering you? 
What the heck: I doubt turq thinks about me much. Probably he hasn't changed 
his mind. But so what? See, I think in your mind that means I should be mean to 
him and not say thanks for a post I like, etc. But for me it's important to 
tell people when I like their posts. It's also important for me to disagree 
with people who are ganging up on someone. I'm sure there's a karmic reason but 
I don't need to figure it out for now. It feels right when I do both and that's 
why I do them.
 

 
 
 On Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:26 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... 
wrote:
 
   Say, Share, another question I asked you yesterday that you didn't respond 
to: Do you think Barry has changed his mind about you since his SHUT THE FUCK 
UP post? 
 

Share fawned:

  7 posts this morning! This is one of the qualities I like about turq, his 
  generosity, and that his 
  posts are often about fascinating stuff. That's all I got for now (-:
 

 On Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:42 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:
 
   How many minions does it take to change a light bulb? Or into one?







 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 






 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 





RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-17 Thread sharelong60
Judy, how is Louise's comment about indiff's style being pro Amma?! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Oh, great, now the pro-Amma folks are coming here to carry on their fight. 
Just what we needed. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, slouisedavis@... wrote:

 I don't think people should encourage indifferent. He is quite abusive. I am 
surprised threats are allowed here. 
 Louise
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Our Mr. 'Empty Bill' is way too fragile for any kind of in-depth conversation 
on cults. He tried this very same tactic on me - claiming I was a troll when I 
posted comments about his cult. Apparently some of these people have been in 
and out of cults for the better part of their entire adult life. Where is Dr. 
Pete when we need him?
 
 'Authfriend' and 'Empty' are constantly calling people trolls. Empty on 
several occasions claimed what I was posting about his cult was bullshit - go 
figure.  These two are famous all over the internet for being newsgroup 
bullies. It's about time someone took them down a peg or two and told them the 
truth about their online flame tactics. Go figure.
 
 And, while you're at it, tell the 'TurquoiseB' and the 'Wolf Baiter' that we 
are are supposed to be equals here and where you live or where you were born is 
just being prejudice. Maybe they are just JELLOS - I don't know. One thing is 
fer sure - they are VERY interested in the comings and goings of some cult 
leaders. LoL!
 
 
 
 On 11/16/2013 8:28 PM, indifferent_netizen wrote:
 
   You are too emotionally fragile Mr. Bill, don't want to make you more 
miserable. I don't get much joy beating wimps.
  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
 That's it? I gave you an invitation to show us how important and powerful you 
are. I am giving you a chance to demonstrate something other than 
 
 braggadocio. 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I didn't realize you cry so easily Mr. Bill, how old are you now?
 
 
 
 
 
 







[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-16 Thread sharelong60
dear not really indifferent, much of my thinking about this topic is based on 
knowing Rick in person. I think he's quite intelligent and impervious to self 
delusion so I choose to trust his input. About Amma and Gail I will never know 
the *facts* via my own direct observations so I rely on the observations of 
others I have found trustworthy. All the while knowing that I might be wrong.
 

 That's the thing I think. At any moment we might be wrong. All we can do is 
our best in any moment. If we're wrong, life will straighten us out one way or 
the other. I can live with that. 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 This is an extremely cultish, delusional thinking.
 

 Here's an interview of Gail Tredwell on this book - open in Google Chrome for 
English translation
 

 
http://spuren.ch/content/magazin/single-ansicht-nachrichten/datumamma-die-kehrseite-einer-heiligen.html
 
http://spuren.ch/content/magazin/single-ansicht-nachrichten/datumamma-die-kehrseite-einer-heiligen.html
 
http://spuren.ch/content/magazin/single-ansicht-nachrichten/datumamma-die-kehrseite-einer-heiligen.html
  
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, 
fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace 
when all is said and done.
 

 
 
 On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
   'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata 
Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism

RE: RE: Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, Devotion, and Pure Madness

2013-11-15 Thread sharelong60
Thanks, Emily, I think it's a great gift from life to be devoted, like how 
you're devoted to your daughters. Everyone here is devoted to someone or 
something. As for me, I'm not devoted to Amma nor even to Maharishi. As I get 
older, the object of my devotion has become well, less of an object. Hard to 
put into words without sounding corny, but here goes:

 When life itself has become the Beloved
 one falls in love at every moment
 sometimes even kicking and screaming
 a funny kind of ecstasy
 a fierce kind of embrace.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:

 You sound like a devotee.  Read the book Share.  It is a very interesting book 
and includes a lot of detail  on what it was like to live in India re: the 
culture, her journey, etc.  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 To be that close to Amma for that long is bound to bring up the biggest, 
fattest stresses, karma from many, many lifetimes. May she somehow find peace 
when all is said and done.
 

 
 
 On Thursday, November 14, 2013 2:49 PM, merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:
 
   'Amma's shadow'Gail Tredwell last video :River of Love ◦ Mata 
Amritanandamayi could be shot just few months before she left the  ashram-?
 Should be at 46m28s -  http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-
 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpagev=dz6bFeYUNCU#t=2789
 

 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s -  
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz6bFeYUNCUfeature=youtu.bet=46m28s 
http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 http://youtu.be/dz6bFeYUNCU?t=46m28s%20-


 The 2011-12 foreign contribution report (from 4/1/2011 through
3/31/2012 and 2010-2011) for the Mata Amritanandamayi Math is up now on the FCRA
website:
 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2011-2012
 

 

 http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011 
http://fcraonline.nic.in/fc3_verify.aspx?RCN=052930183Rby=2010-2011
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote:

 Pages to read: http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-lies/
 http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/ 
http://ammascandal.wordpress.com/category/amma-scandal/
  
  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 5:43 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Holy Hell: A Memoir of Faith, 
Devotion, and Pure Madness


  
   
 I've been to Amma's gatherings a few times and liked getting hugged, liked the 
bhajans and the feeling of being at a market in India. I also liked that it was 
so different than TM gatherings which are drier and more knowledge 
based. Also it was interesting to see the Western devotees garbed in Indian 
clothing and living a more obviously ashram lifestyle. A former boyfriend left 
Purusha and ended up buying a condo at Amma's ashram in India and I got some 
insights from him about that particular path. Bottom line, we live in 
interesting times but maybe everybody in every era thinks that!
  

  
 On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:52 PM, emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@...; emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:

   
 I only spent 3 days and just one time (although it was enough for me to spend 
hours on the internet to reconcile my reality and that of my children's with 
the experience and the experience of the family I went with and to feel 
compelled to write up my story for a post in the process).  I think Rick or 
Ravi or maybe Share? could take you up on this, but I don't want to start any 
drama.  It is a good story and it represents 20 years of her life and I respect 
it and her fully.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@... wrote:
 Hmmm, I would be interested to compare the experience of those who had been 
around Amma with what the author is going to reveal in her book. I would also 
like to know if what the author says resonates in any way or form with what 
someone who approaches Amma openly and sincerely would have to say about their 
experience with/of her. Everyone is different and their filtering/perception 
mechanism is different from those possessed by others. I would love to know how 
I would feel in her presence, receiving her touch and then compare it with Gail 
Tredwell's story and why and how she decided she wanted to move away from Amma. 
Anyone want to read the book and let me know about this, especially if you have 
spent time with her?

  
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com

RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: OMG: viveka, vivekin?

2013-11-15 Thread sharelong60
Judy, again, you're not making any sense. Where do you get the idea that I 
thought turq's post was positive? I simply think it's over and done.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 So you're saying Barry's SHUT THE FUCK UP post to you from August was 
positive and that I'm mistaken to think it was negative?
 

 Do you think he's changed his mind about you?
 

 (BTW, I don't believe in the original version of the story that the 
beautiful, young girl was drowning. In the original version, she was just 
standing by the river helplessly, unable to cross. If the old monk had saved 
her life, it wouldn't have made much sense for the young monk to feel the old 
monk had done something wrong. Whoever added the drowning bit obviously missed 
the whole point of the story.)
 

Share persisted nonsensically:

  Well, Judy I'm not young and I think I'm cute rather than beautiful. And I'm 
  a pretty good 
  swimmer. You remind me of the young monk who's still holding on to an event 
  that's long 
  passed. Flow on!
 

 

 
 
 On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:37 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Are you thinking of yourself as the beautiful, young girl who was saved 
from drowning by the old monk? And of Barry as that monk?
 

 Just trying to understand how I've reminded you of this story that we've all 
heard so often, because I can't quite see the connection. I mean, neither of 
the monks said anything about the beautiful, young girl being stupid (at 
least not in the standard version of the story).
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 LOL, Judy, Judy, Judy, you remind me of the story of 2 brahmacharyas who came 
to a river and saw a beautiful, young girl drowning there. The older of the 
monks jumped in and carried her to the opposite shore. Then he and the young 
monk continued their journey. A little later the young monk got upset with the 
old monk for breaking their vows by touching a woman. The old monk wisely noted 
that he had left her at the river. But the young monk, who had not touched her 
at all, was still carrying her.
 

 Flow on, Judy, flow on!

 
 
 On Friday, November 15, 2013 10:02 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Share is so fortunate to have a defender like Barry, isn't she?
 

 

 An Open Message To Share
 turquoiseb Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:51:44 -0700
 

 SHUT THE FUCK UP
 

 We get it that you don't care how unintelligent you come across, and
 that you're trying to single-handedly prove the contention of anti-TM
 critics that TMers are blissninnies without a brain cell in their thick
 skulls who will believe anything if they're told its Woo Woo enough. But
 do you have to be such a codependent, attention-seeking masochist about
 it?
 

 Not only have you been making yourself the object of pursuit of your Jr.
 High School-mentality tormentors, you've been doing it *purposefully*.
 For fuck's sake, STOP.
 

 You're even more boring than they are as they chase you endlessly like a
 dog chases a ball. The mean girls trying to get you are an
 embarrassment to the notion of humans having compassion, but you're an
 embarrassment to the notion of humans having intelligence.
 

 They're doing this because they have no choice; they're the dogs in this
 scenario:
 

  
 [https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/1002189_1015\
 1783564220211_2025423059_n.jpg]
 

 You're doing it because you're not terribly smart, or interesting, and
 you crave attention anyway. And you don't fucking care whether you drag
 a whole forum down to your level of idiocy to get it.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann 
wrote:
 
   ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
   sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Emily, it is and has been a pleasure for me to read posts
   from just about all the men on FFL The posts of the
   MGC? Not so much. Silly me!.
 
  Men! Listen up. You are providing a necessary community
  service when you 'stimulate' Share with your attention and
  ideas. Keep up the good work. Mean Girls need not apply.
 
 Mean Girls need not apply for membership in the human
 race. They don't qualify.
 
  Are all the girls here mean BTW?
 
 The only ones we can be fairly certain fall into the Mean Girls
 category are the ones who have been piling on to Share ever
 since one of them got called on being a faux feminist. That
 would be Judy, Ann, and Emily.
 
 This behavior is about as *anti-feminist* as it gets. Personally
 I think Share should just write all three of them off as if they
 don't exist, but she compassionately still interacts with them,
 as she does with the other attention troll, Willytex. Waste 'o
 fuckin' time, if you ask me, but so be it, and better her than me.


 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 




 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: OMG: viveka, vivekin?

2013-11-14 Thread sharelong60
Obviously, emptybill, projection was alive and happening even in those days! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 Now you can understand how the local dravidians ported over the word ho to 
apply to their gender opposites. 

 

 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 emptybill, thanks for taking the time to explain this in more detail. I think 
of space, etc. as simple so couldn't connect that to chaos. But maybe to 
primitive peoples the skies seemed very chaotic with changing weather patterns, 
etc. I like to imagine those moments when the first cave person had a different 
association with a sound like kha. I like to wonder about the journey from hole 
to sky/ether/space to chaos. 
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:49 PM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote:
 
   Professor Troll couldn't read so here are some Wiki Holes.
 

 Sukah and Dukha: the good and bad of it (FWIW).

 

 Contemporary scholar Winthrop Sargeant explains the etymological roots of 
these terms as follows:[45] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukkha#cite_note-FOOTNOTESargeant2009303-73 
 The ancient Aryans who brought the Sanskrit language to India were a nomadic, 
horse- and cattle-breeding people who travelled in horse- or ox-drawn vehicles. 
Su and dus are prefixes indicating good or bad. The word kha, in later Sanskrit 
meaning sky, ether, or space, was originally the word for hole, 
particularly an axle hole of one of the Aryan's vehicles. Thus sukha … meant, 
originally, having a good axle hole, while duhkha meant having a poor axle 
hole, leading to discomfort.  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 So, you don't know any Tibetan - I thought so. 
 
 This has got to be one of the most misleading and silly answers to a simple 
yoga question I've ever read on FFL or a.m.t. You'd expect a guy that has spent 
almost his entire adult life studying with gurus and rinpoches to at least know 
one single word in Tibetan. Go figure.
 
 According to the Cologne Sanskrit Lexicon, the term 'dukkha' in Sanskrit, Pali 
and Tibetan is a Buddhist term commonly translated as 'suffering', one of the 
most important concepts in the Buddhist tradition. In the Yoga Sutras the term 
vivek means 'a wise man'. 
 
 All is suffering for the wise man (Y.S. 2.15). 
 
 The most ancient sustained expression of yogic ideas is found in the early 
discourses of the historical Buddha, thus Patanjali's  conception of freedom is 
related to the ancient Buddhist view that the source of suffering is the 
craving for permanence in a universe of impermanence. 
 
 Both the 'Four Noble Truths' and the 'Eightfold Path' articulated in the 
Buddha's first discourse are elements that underlie the yoga system. Two 
striking examples of this are Patanjali's use of the word 'nirodha' in the 
opening definition of yoga as 'citta-vrtti-nirodha', that is, 'Yoga is the 
cessation of the turnings of thought' and the statement that all is suffering, 
dukkha, for the wise man.
 
 According to Stoler-Miller, dukkha, suffering, and nirodha, cessation, are 
crucial terms in Buddhist vocabulary and the doctrine of suffering is the core 
of what Buddhists believe the Buddha taught after gaining enlightenment. 
Patanjali's ashtang eight-limbed practice is parallel to the eight-limbed path 
of Buddha.
 
 Work cited:
 
 'Yoga: Discipline of Freedom'
 by Barbara Stoler-Miller
 Acclaimed translator of the Bhagavad Gita.
 Bantam Wisdom Editions 1998
 p. 5, 52.
 
 On 11/12/2013 8:48 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   Musta meant axle-rod. 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:
 
  Dukha is the opposite of sukha. Kha as in Chaos (khaos).
  It literally means a bad (du) axle-hole vs good (su) axle-hole.
 
 Who exactly are you calling an axle-hole? :-)
 
 
  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
  sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Card, I can see at least 2 ways to interpret this quote. One possible
 meaning is that for the person in CC, there is the infinite Self and the
 finite non Self and that duality itself causes misery. OR the person in
 CC realizes that all, meaning the world, is a field of change, misery
 rather than of permanent bliss.
 
  In another quote, Maharishi translates dukham as danger: avert the
 danger which has not arisen. Heyam dukham anagatam.
 
 
  On Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:31 AM, cardemaister@ cardemaister@
 wrote:
 
  According to YS II 15: [blah blah blah...]...duHkham eva sarvam
 vivekinaH ... everything (sarvam) [is] only (eva) duHkha for a vivekin.
 
 
  duHkha 1 mfn. (according to grammarians properly written %{duS-kha}
 and said to be from %{dus} and %{kha} [cf. %{su-kha4}] ; but more
 probably a Pra1kritized form for %{duH-stha} q.v.) uneasy ,
 uncomfortable

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Hitler - our part in his rise

2013-11-14 Thread sharelong60
Ok, Richard, sometimes I like to give you a hard time but today, thanks for the 
reminders about netiquette. It's a hole new world out here! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 It's not complicated. 
 
 Rule number three should really be rule number one: try to make yourself look 
good on the internet.
 
 If you're interested in Hitler, send your messages to the Nazi group.
 If you're a Nazi and an admirer of Hitler, don't send messages about Hitler to 
a spiritual group.
 Don't send inflammatory messages to a spiritual group extolling the face hair 
of the guy that killed six million Jews.
 
 
 On 11/13/2013 12:22 PM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Jeez, Richard, I feel exhausted to reading all these rules!
 
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 11:56 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
   
 Yeah, I'm with Buck on this one. There's probably no need to send anonymous, 
nonsensical posts about Adolph Hitler's face hair to a spiritual discussion 
group. Maybe it's time to review a few netiquette protocols:
 
 1. Don't send inflammatory messages to the discussion group.
 2. Make sure to send your message to the appropriate group.
 3. Try to make yourself look good on the internet.
 
 Notes: Send messages about Hitler to the Nazi group; send messages about 
Hitler's face hair to the Veterans Day thread; don't send messages about planes 
to the locomotive group. Make yourself look good by sending thoughtful or 
insightful messages about the topic at hand and try to stay on topic.  Try to 
be original and informative.
 
 http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule5.html 
http://www.albion.com/netiquette/rule5.html
 
 On 11/13/2013 9:28 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Ahem, Richard, your post seems to be one of those one liners you rant about. 
Go figure!
 
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:32 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
   
 Addressing the important issues!
 
 On 11/12/2013 9:39 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   Hitler preferred a curly Prussian style moustache but was ordered to clip 
it during WWI so that it would fit under the gas masks introduced to defend 
against British mustard-gas attacks.
 
 
 Didn't save the bastard though: he was blinded in a Brit gas attack in 1918.
 
 
 http://tinyurl.com/bnmsjr http://tinyurl.com/bnmsjr
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-14 Thread sharelong60
That's a great question, Richard: for whom is one seeking enlightenment? And I 
think it changes over time. Hopefully! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 This is a very weak defense of your beliefs. As a Buddhist you should already 
know that the Buddha's rationale for teaching hinged on the fact that he became 
enlightened  - and the nature of his enlightenment. 
 
 According to the Buddha himself, at the moment he became enlightened he saw 
all his previous lives and all his future lives and the pain and suffering he 
had already endured for eons and the pain and suffering he was to endure in the 
future. And, he saw in one fell swoop all the suffering that all humans will 
endure, past and present and future. At that moment he realized the truth of 
suffering (samsara), action (karma) and rebirth (reincarnation) and how to end 
suffering following an Eightfold Path.
 
 The Buddha at that moment realized that everything happens for a reason; 
because of this, that occurs. Just like in a game of billiards depends on cause 
and effect and gravity sucks. It's not complicated. 
 
 So, we know that causation rules the physical world, but is there a moral 
reciprocity as well? It's always best to err on the side of caution. That's why 
Buddhists are supposed to be compassionate and to do no harm. You left out the 
reason why you were seeking the spiritual life! Is it for you own gain or for 
the benefit of others? That's the real question.
 
 . And what was the On 11/13/2013 1:17 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:
 
  If you had a flashback that convinced you you were Jack the Ripper in a 
  previous life should you hand yourself in to the police? 
  Could you count on the statute of limitations getting you off the hook? 
  Could you claim in mitigation that you weren't yourself when you committed 
  the murders? 
 
 I'm going to comment on this, and leave the musings below to others. No 
offense, but the above stuff is way funny, and creative, and that tickles my 
funny bone. But -- having kinda been there done that with this experience -- 
theorizing about it doesn't really float my boat. 
 
 I'm like that with many of my most interesting spiritual experiences. I was 
there. I experienced these things, some of them that fall into the Blade Runner 
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe category. But I can't tell you 
definitively what they were. Heck, I'm still trying to figure many of them out 
myself. 
 
 Maybe it's a Buddhist thang. They were never all that interested in the why 
things are happening, only in *that* they are happening, and how to make the 
best of that. I'm kinda drawn that way myself. 
 
  No one picked up on my alternative suggestion that memories of previous 
  lives could be explained not by any one individual going through a serial 
  succession of different life stories but rather could be explained as 
  someone accessing our common, racial memory. 
  By what mechanism? 
  1) Occultists talk about shells of the dead left behind in the astral 
  realm. Really, though, the shells are used to explain what mediums access 
  when they contact the recently deceased. The shells dissipate over time so 
  wouldn't explain distant memories. 
  2) Memories are passed on through our DNA by some unknown mechanism? (This 
  wouldn't work for Michael's recall of being a pious hermit in medieval 
  France - unless he had a relapse into sinful passions - monks don't have 
  kids.) Of course, the further back in time you peer the more common 
  ancestors we all have. 
  3) All human (and non-human) life experiences are stored in the Akashic 
  Records. This looks the most promising line to take. 
  The advantage of this theory - that past-life memories are simply people 
  accessing the Akashic field - are: 
  (i) It explains why more than one person can claim to have memories of an 
  historical figure. 
  (ii) It fits better Buddhist ideas of anatta. 
  (iii) It explains why Cleopatra pops up so much; her thumbprint on the 
  Akashic field is bigger than most peoples. 
  
  
  
  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
  sharelong60@ wrote: 
  
  fwiw, I figured we had all been in a previous life together and then a 
  healer mentioned that out of the blue about a month ago. My intuition says 
  Atlantis but I've not had any experiences to confirm. Hope we get it right 
  this time around (-: 
  
  
  
  On Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:47 AM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote: 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
  wrote: 
   
   Sounds like a dream while being awake. Any slippage into another time 
   dimension makes it seem probable these dimensions exist simultaneously 
   with the present. 
  
  Personally, I suspect this is the case. That is, that all of these events 
  are happening simultaneously

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-13 Thread sharelong60
Seraphita, I've never tried to change a past life event, not wanting to mess 
with karma, etc. But I have a friend who's reportedly in early Brahman 
Consciousness and he reportedly knows how to do that. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote:

 Re Barry's As for the Jack The Ripper thang, how could anyone's past- life 
recollection shed any light on that unless they happened to be there, and in a 
position to have witnessed the events?:
 

 They could indeed have been the perpetrator or one of his victims. 
 

 I was going to say this: If I was to find myself suddenly in a past-life - 
let's say in Elizabethan London - I'd take careful note of what clothes the 
people around me wore, what food they ate, what the houses looked like, etc. 
and then when I returned I'd check against the best-available historical 
evidence. Here's the thing though: if you were to have a past-life recall can 
you alter what you're thinking or doing? If it's a far-memory of you in a 
previous life is the you that's you in the 21st century having the recall 
able to change anything?

 

 Actually, I *am* living in Elizabethan London (Liz No 2 though) so perhaps I 
should take careful note of what's around me right now; then if my future self 
ever recalls this one I'll bring back useful info.
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 Thanks for your reply, Empty. For the record, that's exactly how my
 flashbacks have occurred as well. One moment I'm in the present,
 anticipating nothing out of the ordinary and expecting nothing, and the
 next moment I'm in the moment of another time and place, as a first
 person participant, able to move around and interact with others in the
 scene.
 
 It's weird, but fun.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:
 
  Indeed, among New Agers there are some who believe they were xyz
 o'-so-important person. This is often cited as proof it is all
 phantasy.
 
  Tell that to Buddha and Patanjali, who musta been deluded by the Old
 Agers. If fact there are Westerners who see that as proof that Buddha
 and Patanjali were just indoctrinated Asians. Thus they say I don't
 believe the bullshit of those old bastards 'cause I ain't no fawning
 yoga-phant.
 
  As a case in point to Turq and Share, when I was 12 years old I was
 sitting at the kitchen table eating something. Suddenly I was a man
 sitting at an outdoor table drinking coffee in a smaller cup and reading
 a news paper. It was printed in gothic script. I especially remember the
 feeling of self-assurance along with the actual optical view of the
 street and the cars. Then suddenly I was sitting back at the kitchen
 table, feeling how good it was but unable to place that into an
 experiential framework. I never told my Southern Baptist parents because
 such things could never be real.
 
  Musta been the devil had a bulls-eye on my back 'cause as a 12 year
 old I was so important that he had to pre-condition me to receive the
 Hindu devils. But now I know the truth ... Seraph has liberated me from
 my illusion with good ol' Western psychologistic rationality.
 
  No need for experience when you've actually know the rational truth
 ... now that we have finally jettisoned neolithic myths. Eureka!
 
 
 
 
 
  ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
  turquoiseb@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:
  
Re [empty's statement that]: The residual effect was that I
 taught
  myself how to conduct my conscious mind to see into past lives.:
  
   Look - if you and others could really access past-life information
  you could tell the rest of us stuff that wouldn't otherwise be
  explicable. The fact that you can't demonstrate such knowledge shows
  that your supposed recollection is a construction. I mean, think
 about
  it: if you could tell us (say) the true identity of Jack the Ripper
 you
  would get the Nobel Prize for Physics for overturning the current
  scientific paradigm.
 
  I think you're letting your Western sensibilities lead you astray.
  There *are* techniques for accessing memories of past lives,
  but don't confuse them with New Age Bullshit and I-Wish-I-
  Had-Been-Cleopatra-So-I'll-Claim-I-Was fantasies. Such real
  techniques tend to be taught only privately to students who
  can be trusted with them, and are usually preceded by a
  warning similar to Whatever you find out is likely to be
  interesting, but essentially a waste of your time, because
  it's all about the past. It's what you do Here And Now that
  is important, and counts.
 
  I have been exposed to such teachings, but didn't pursue them
  because frankly I wasn't interested. My personal past-life
  recollections always came upon me rather than me search-
  ing for them, and they always came in such a spectacular
  

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-12 Thread sharelong60
Oy! I just got it Judy! Duh! Well I've always thought of myself as an early 
morning person and imho, that explains a lot. sigh...I'm never gonna be the 
sharpest tack in the FFL box but that's ok with me. How boring it would be if 
we were all the same.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Right, I'm threatened because you stupidly got something I said wrong and 
can't bring yourself to admit it.
 

 Share, I know you're trying your best, but really...
 

 Think, honey, think. Don't just blather.
 

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
  I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
  to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with OTOH in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote My indestructible Maya? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, Vegenaise, a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 









RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-12 Thread sharelong60
You're welcome, Judy and I wrote the email as soon as I realized what I had 
been missing. It did not feel at all hard to do. Go figure! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Good for you, Share. I don't think this was easy for you to acknowledge. Thank 
you. 
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Oy! I just got it Judy! Duh! Well I've always thought of myself as an early 
morning person and imho, that explains a lot. sigh...I'm never gonna be the 
sharpest tack in the FFL box but that's ok with me. How boring it would be if 
we were all the same.

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 Right, I'm threatened because you stupidly got something I said wrong and 
can't bring yourself to admit it.
 

 Share, I know you're trying your best, but really...
 

 Think, honey, think. Don't just blather.
 

  
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
  I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
  to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with OTOH in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote My indestructible Maya? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, Vegenaise, a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 













RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Transcendental Meditation Revolutionary Mission:

2013-11-11 Thread sharelong60
Next step, Judy resorts to ridicule. But why? Why does she feel so threatened? 
And so often? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 (giggle) Poor baby.
 
Share boo-hooed:
  I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted 
  to name calling.
 

 

 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with OTOH in 
response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything 
else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom 
Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking 
the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so 
unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a 
veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate 
reality. Go figure (-:
 
 
 On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, anartaxius@... anartaxius@... wrote:
 
   Does anyone here know the source of the quote My indestructible Maya? On 
the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, 
mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume 
that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I 
recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or 
otherwise heard it.
 

 Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the 
Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the 
latter)
 

 Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.
 

 I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, Vegenaise, a non 
animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be 
called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the 
Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose 
of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who#39;s Going to Win the Miss Universe 2013 Contest?

2013-11-10 Thread sharelong60
John, when you posted the Miss USA photo I thought, she'll never win, she's not 
exotic looking enough. Exotic seems to be the current preference. Just like 
other aspects of visual beauty that go in and out of style, like skirt lengths 
and car colors and architecture, so too does the ideal of human beauty. 

 

 Men are hard wired to be attracted by physical beauty. In cave times flawless 
skin etc. were unconsciously grokked signs that a potential mate would bear 
healthy children. You've mentioned wanting to get married and have children so 
it's natural that you would pay attention to these attributes. 

 

 PS Maybe you have Venus in the 7th? (-:  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

  Ann,
 

 How do you define a real woman using your criteria?  By the way, there are 
many people who watch the Miss Universe contest.  I happen to be interested in 
it for reasons that you can probably guess.  But I didn't watch the show 
tonight.  I just read the news on the internet and passed it along to the group 
in case anyone is interested in this kind of activity.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

 Thanks for the update but this specimen still doesn't quite look like a real 
woman to me. I wouldn't have pegged you for a watcher of the Miss Universe 
contest Jr.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

 Buck and Ann,
 

 The winner this year is Miss Venezuela.  Doesn't she look like Raquel Welch?
 

 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html
 
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/venezuelan-crowned-miss-universe-moscow-ceremony-202053448.html

 

 I personally feel that this is a news worthy event.  Why would anyone think 
otherwise? 
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 So it would be good, to have better writing and more self-editing on FFL. 
 
 -Buck   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

 Miss USA has a good chance.  It all depends on what she says in the Q and A 
portion of the contest.  But the competition will be tough this year. 

 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg
 
http://content2.catalog.photos.msn.com/ds/ee58ec8f-2275-4bd0-92e2-65a73bab924d.jpg




 

 

 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-08 Thread sharelong60
Xeno, I actually think there's a seesaw connection between devotion and what 
turq calls ego. I don't think either is a matter of all or nothing. At any 
given moment, I'm some percentage of each. And actually the conundrum is that 
it's only ego that's concerned about how egoic we are! Tricky. IMHO (-:
 In my experience the best I can do is focus on and go towards what I love or 
like and let ego spontaneously fall away in the process. Life has a way of 
taking care of ego schmego! And I agree with whichever poster said that we can 
be devoted towards anything or anyone. But since we're embodied being, forms 
seem to be a good choice for the nonce.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote:

 authfriend wrote:
 

 'My parents sent me to Sunday School at a nearby nondenominational Christian 
church a couple of times when I was around 10 or so, feeling they should at 
least give me some exposure to religion. I didn't like it, and they didn't make 
me go again. I had a brief flirtation with Unitarianism in my teens, but it 
didn't last. Then after starting TM I began to feel a need for a worship 
context and joined the church where I'd attended Sunday School, stayed a couple 
of years but wasn't inspired enough to continue, since I really wasn't into the 
Personal God aspect of the belief system (or Christ as savior). God as Unified 
Field, the ultimate (and unworshipable) abstraction, is about as far as I can 
go.'
 

 My exposure to religion was rather slight, and by high school I was 
essentially agnostic although at times early influences would kick in on the 
emotional level. What you said here is pretty much what is available to 
agnostics, atheists, and non-theistic religions or philosophies (such as Zen 
Buddhism; Tao). One pretty much has to bypass that conception of a personal 
level of 'creation' (assuming there really is creation). It is possible other 
conceptual states might take the place of the personal god concept. What I 
found as time went on was I would make the attempt not to visualise the goal, I 
would easily try to deflect the tendency to give it a form. This worked for me. 
But a lot of people have trouble without some kind of concrete image in the 
mind, I find it interesting that TM takes the mind away from concrete imaging, 
yet when people come out of the meditation, it does not seem to register that 
that experience of formlessness has something to do with what one experiences 
through the senses. Ultimately that empty blank is what is experienced as being 
all the forms.
 

 The Bhagavad-Gita says that those bent on the unmanifest may have a tough time 
of it - a few translations follow, Chapter 12 Verse 5:
 

 'For those whose minds are attached to the unmanifested, impersonal feature of 
the Supreme, advancement is very troublesome. To make progress in that 
discipline is always difficult for those who are embodied.'
 

 'Those whose minds are attached to the unmanifest aspect have much greater 
tribulations, because devoid of any perceptible form and attributes, success is 
achieved with great difficulty due to the beings identifying with the body.'
 

 'There is greater trouble for those whose minds are attached to the 
unmanifest. For, the path of the unmanifest is difficult to attain by the 
embodied.'
 

 As a kind of space case, perhaps I was attracted to a less concrete view of 
the universe. For example, without wanting to be a Buddhist, I was attracted to 
its Zen lineage because of the lack of conceptualisation and emphasis on direct 
experience. I found the emphasis on devotion to the guru in the TM movement 
always disconcerting as it did not seem to have any relevance to my so-called 
path. Others, of course, found devotion quite amenable to them, if it was 
natural; but faking devotion because one sees others doing it that way probably 
would be a disaster. I have seen people in the movement live and on tape 
seemingly straining to appear devoted when it seemed (as it appeared to me) 
they were just doing it out of peer pressure. Devotion is a property of what 
you like the most, whatever is most likable to you, that is your devotion, what 
you pursue, and that pursuit continues until it is fulfilled, or completely 
thwarted.
 

  
 









[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The academic fields with the least discipline...

2013-11-07 Thread sharelong60
turq, imho, ego-panties deserves an award for the FFL phrase of the year! If I 
use it in my dissertation about online communities, I promise to give you a 
footnote (-: 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 See Share, *this* is what I mean about the difference between
 simply presenting one's opinion, and getting one's ego-panties
 in a twist, and trying to turn it into a battle that's all going
 on inside the egomaniac's head.
 
 All I did is present an opinion. I even said at the end that
 that was *all* it was.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
wrote:
 
  Barry wrote:
  (snip)
   This said, I disagree with whoever suggested that Stephen King
 needs editing.
 
 
  As if Barry didn't know who that person was. What a coward.
 
 
   I find reading his latest work a refreshing throwback to the days
 in which writers didn't pander to attention
   spans shortened by a lifetime's exposure to sound bites and
 artificially shortened exposition.
 
 
 
  Bullshit. That isn't what editing is, and it isn't what King needed.
 As he so often does, Barry simply made a stopid assumption that
 would give him a reason to take a shot at me for making a point he
 didn't understand in the first place. Such a phony.
 
 
  I dare him to read Duma Key and tell us he thought its second half
 didn't need to be heavily pruned and shaped. (Remember, I said the first
 half--where the exposition takes place--was brilliant.)
 
 
  I don't, frankly, know (and neither does Barry) whether in his heyday
 King himself had an infallible sense of how much was enough, or whether
 it was a savvy editor. But if it was his own sense, for sure he had lost
 it in some of his recent books and lacked an editor with the guts to
 keep him on track. If he has regained it (or has realized he needed an
 editor), good for him.
  



RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-07 Thread sharelong60
Richard! Did you even look at the clip?! It's beautiful, not outhousy at all! 
Go figure! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 This thread is looking like it's headed for the outhouse.
 
 On 11/6/2013 10:10 PM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   You're all sounding like desiccated corpses drying in the desert. 
 There is another type of Christian life here in America.
 
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0M94z3Pev4 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0M94z3Pev4
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
 Seraphita wrote: 
 
  Re Then after starting TM I began to feel a need for a worship context and 
  joined the 
  church where I'd attended Sunday School, stayed a couple of years but wasn't 
  inspired 
  enough to continue, since I really wasn't into the Personal God aspect of 
  the belief system 
  (or Christ as savior). God as Unified Field, the ultimate (and 
  unworshipable) abstraction, is 
  about as far as I can go. :
 
  Again very close to my view. Here in the UK, the Anglican Church is 
  essentially a wishy- 
  washy nostalgia circus for reminding grown-ups of their childhood. (With 
  bits of Arthurian 
  romance added to the mix.) So all pretty harmless. Even arch-atheist Richard 
  Dawkins has 
  confessed to occasionally popping into a church just to enjoy the aesthetic 
  experience!
 
 
 
 Heehee. Be fun to see that guy Spufford look up from his prayers and clap eyes 
on Dawkins.
 
 
  Having always been intrigued by the occult fringe, I've also seen some 
  attraction in the 
 
  Catholic position: the Mass as a magical ritual and the unembarrassed 
  veneration of those 
  medieval mystics. Even such unregenerates as Oscar Wilde, Baudelaire  and 
  Huysmans 
  finally turned to Rome as they sensed it was the more poetical religion.
 
 
 Huh, I'm attracted by the poetry/music/incense/art/theatrical aspects as well. 
Goes way back with me to the (wonderful) Audrey Hepburn film The Nun's Story. 
I think I'd need a Peter Finch equivalent, though.
 
 
 To this day I have no idea whether my late father had any religious 
sensibility whatsoever, but he adored churches and religious music and 
painting. I guess it's in the genes.
 
 
 
 I might be tempted to pop into a Catholic church at some point if they were 
doing a mass in Latin. There's something really magical about Latin. Like 
Sanskrit, I suppose, but the music is a lot better. ;-) I once memorized the 
Hail Mary in Latin just because I loved the sound of it. My Presbyterian 
ancestors (Huguenots, no less) must have spun themselves nearly out of their 
graves.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: The academic fields with the least discipline...

2013-11-07 Thread sharelong60
turq, about formulaic series, I'm old enough to have seen several in the crime 
team genre: Blue Moon, Remington Steele come to mind. What I enjoy is seeing 
how the formula itself has evolved. It's as if with each new artist or group of 
artists, the formula itself gets transformed in some essential way. Subsequent 
series must at least meet the new level or get axed. Just my opinion but I like 
it!  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
Share Long wrote:
 
  Ok, turq, here's a question for you: what goes to battle
  with ego?
 
 There is rarely a *need* for battle if there are no egos
 involved.
 
  Being? Truth? Love? I don't think so. Other egos? Hmmm...
  I'd guess yes. But that's just my opinion.
 
  Once again I don't understand why you get so het up
  about people having and sharing opinions. It's what we
  all do. Especially after we've survived our midlife crisis!
 
 I have no issue at all with people having opinions. It's
 when they try to present them as something *other than*
 opinion -- as truth, or worse, as some kind of cosmic
 Truth -- that I cry bullshit.
 
  I think most people share opinions for the purpose of
  benefiting others.
 
 And *that* is ego. Believing that your opinion is so cool
 or so right or so Truth-y that sharing it will benefit
 others.
 
  If they're misguided in that, well, there's obviously a
  learning curve involved. And maybe wanting to benefit
  others is the last stronghold of the ego. Hmmm...
 
 Certainly believing that their opinion has the *ability*
 to benefit others is one of the last strongholds of ego.
 
  And really, if you added up all your writing online, I
  bet you'd get close to 500 pages (-:
 
 But -- unlike some here -- I neither expect people to read
 what I post, or throw hissy-fits when others don't. Some
 here actually throw tantrums when people don't *respond*
 to what they've written. :-)
 
  About character development, I'm making my way
  through the 5 previous seasons of Castle and it's so
  gratifying to watch the unfolding of all the different
  characters. But of course especially Castle and Beckett
  as they realize their love for each other more and more.
 
 It's a completely formulaic series, but its strength is in
 the actors, and the way they fill out the characters as
 written. Nathan is a tour de force in this regard, no
 matter what he's in, but Stana Katic is pretty good
 at being interesting, too.



RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread sharelong60
Ok, Richard, nobody else is gonna challenge you on this. Actually I'm not 
either. But it would be great if you could say more about it. Seems 
revolutionary (-:  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Anyone who meditates with the aim of samadhi is a Buddhist. 
 
 On 11/3/2013 4:42 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   Is it possible to be a Buddhist and practice meditation effortlessly?
 
 
 Yes, according to MMY. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  Should TM'er Buddhists even be allowed to have a Dome badge? Is it possible 
to be a buddhist and practice meditation effortlessly?
 -Buck
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
 Re The Gnostic prophet Mani taught radical dualist cosmology; a struggle 
between the opposing forces of good and evil, spiritual light versus the 
material world darkness. Humans are composed of two opposing elements in a 
battle for power. There is a soul, but it is influenced by elements of both 
good and evil. Manichaeism is similar to the dualistic Bogomils, Paulicians, 
and Cathars. It's not complicated. Adepts in China and the Far East would 
probably relate to this with their own notions of Yin and Yang.: 
 
 The Yin and Yang concepts point to a Tao that includes the opposites. 
Imagining that one side of a pair of opposites could gain the upper hand over 
the other would be a vulgar error.
 As the little we know about Manichaeism and similar dualist 
religions/philosophies comes to us from hostile sources isn't it possible that 
these beliefs weren't as dualist as they've been painted but perhaps also had 
the idea of a Transcendence that reconciled the positive and negative aspects 
of life?
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 So, let's review what we know about the prophet Mani. 
 
 The Gnostic prophet Mani taught radical dualist cosmology; a struggle between 
the opposing forces of good and evil, spiritual light versus the material world 
darkness. Humans are composed of two opposing elements in a battle for power. 
There is a soul, but it is influenced by elements of both good and evil. 
Manichaeism is similar to the dualistic Bogomils, Paulicians, and Cathars. It's 
not complicated.
 
 Adepts in China and the Far East would probably relate to this with their own 
notions of Yin and Yang, which is probably derived from the Indian Sankhya, a 
radical dualism, and later tantra- a theory of polarity which posits male and 
female energies. 
 
 The name 'Mani' is Sanskrit. Mani traveled and lived in India for several 
years, visiting  Buddhist lands such as Bamiyan in Afghanistan, so it is not 
surprising that Buddhist influences would be apparent. Mani apparently adopted 
his theory of the reincarnation (transmigration of souls) from the Buddhists. 
Mani's sect structure was apparently based on the Buddhist Sangha, that is, 
Arhants and the lay follower community. 
 
 
 On 11/2/2013 11:31 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   
  
 No wonder the Near-Eastern realm got so mixed up.   
 It seems that as Manichean ideology spread to the East it incorporated 
Buddhist concepts along the way in a effort to show the superiority of the 
Religion of Light. Mani lived during the third century of the current era. 
Mani used the epitaph Buddha of Light and identified himself as Maitreya. He 
and his followers specifically borrowed from early Pure Land Sutras and 
Nagarjuna's Madhyamaka philosophy. As it entered the region of Gandhara and 
spread to China it used the Buddhist Hinayana tradition to support its views of 
matter, the body and the world.
 MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM
 
 
 David A. Scott 
 
 Christ Church College of Higher Education 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM

2013-11-06 Thread sharelong60
hey, emptybill, too late! Moon in Pisces, which makes me not only a fish, but a 
fish facing in each direction!
 btw, thanks for Kelly article. Was horrified by it and article turq posted. 
Admit that such makes me grateful to be in FF. Could be deluded. But won't 
change til I'm sure I am! See, still looking in two directions...

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote:

 Share,
 Professor Troll is throwing out a fishing line to troll-in anyone who will 
bite. Don’t be a fish.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Ok, Richard, nobody else is gonna challenge you on this. Actually I'm not 
either. But it would be great if you could say more about it. Seems 
revolutionary (-:  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 Anyone who meditates with the aim of samadhi is a Buddhist. 
 
 On 11/3/2013 4:42 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   Is it possible to be a Buddhist and practice meditation effortlessly?
 
 
 Yes, according to MMY. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  Should TM'er Buddhists even be allowed to have a Dome badge? Is it possible 
to be a buddhist and practice meditation effortlessly?
 -Buck
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... wrote:
 
 Re The Gnostic prophet Mani taught radical dualist cosmology; a struggle 
between the opposing forces of good and evil, spiritual light versus the 
material world darkness. Humans are composed of two opposing elements in a 
battle for power. There is a soul, but it is influenced by elements of both 
good and evil. Manichaeism is similar to the dualistic Bogomils, Paulicians, 
and Cathars. It's not complicated. Adepts in China and the Far East would 
probably relate to this with their own notions of Yin and Yang.: 
 
 The Yin and Yang concepts point to a Tao that includes the opposites. 
Imagining that one side of a pair of opposites could gain the upper hand over 
the other would be a vulgar error.
 As the little we know about Manichaeism and similar dualist 
religions/philosophies comes to us from hostile sources isn't it possible that 
these beliefs weren't as dualist as they've been painted but perhaps also had 
the idea of a Transcendence that reconciled the positive and negative aspects 
of life?
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
 So, let's review what we know about the prophet Mani. 
 
 The Gnostic prophet Mani taught radical dualist cosmology; a struggle between 
the opposing forces of good and evil, spiritual light versus the material world 
darkness. Humans are composed of two opposing elements in a battle for power. 
There is a soul, but it is influenced by elements of both good and evil. 
Manichaeism is similar to the dualistic Bogomils, Paulicians, and Cathars. It's 
not complicated.
 
 Adepts in China and the Far East would probably relate to this with their own 
notions of Yin and Yang, which is probably derived from the Indian Sankhya, a 
radical dualism, and later tantra- a theory of polarity which posits male and 
female energies. 
 
 The name 'Mani' is Sanskrit. Mani traveled and lived in India for several 
years, visiting  Buddhist lands such as Bamiyan in Afghanistan, so it is not 
surprising that Buddhist influences would be apparent. Mani apparently adopted 
his theory of the reincarnation (transmigration of souls) from the Buddhists. 
Mani's sect structure was apparently based on the Buddhist Sangha, that is, 
Arhants and the lay follower community. 
 
 
 On 11/2/2013 11:31 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... wrote:
 
   
  
 No wonder the Near-Eastern realm got so mixed up.   
 It seems that as Manichean ideology spread to the East it incorporated 
Buddhist concepts along the way in a effort to show the superiority of the 
Religion of Light. Mani lived during the third century of the current era. 
Mani used the epitaph Buddha of Light and identified himself as Maitreya. He 
and his followers specifically borrowed from early Pure Land Sutras and 
Nagarjuna's Madhyamaka philosophy. As it entered the region of Gandhara and 
spread to China it used the Buddhist Hinayana tradition to support its views of 
matter, the body and the world.
 MANICHAEAN VIEWS OF BUDDHISM
 
 
 David A. Scott 
 
 Christ Church College of Higher Education 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 




RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Before the British Invasion

2013-11-05 Thread sharelong60
And how about California dreamin music scene: Mamas and Papas, Beach Boys, etc. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote:

 Before for the Beatles it was regional rock groups that were the scene in the 
US.  There was Northwest Rock which included the Kingsmen, Sonics and way back 
the Ventures (playing their cover of a jazz tune Walk Don't Run).  Then the 
northwest do-wap groups like the Fleetwoods (I played on a revival album they 
did).  There was also an east coast scene, a Chicago area scene and New Orleans 
scene.  These were often regional because the labels were regional without 
national distribution.
 
 Also before the Beatles let's not forget folk period which includes The 
Kingston Trio, Lamplighters (I backed them up once) and other spin offs. Those 
morphed into folk rock groups in the later 60s.
 
 Regional music scenes in the US would be a lot like European country's and 
their own scenes.
 
 Romance languages didn't translate well into rock so you have the soft muzak 
rock those countries created.
 
 On 11/05/2013 10:37 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
s3raphita wrote:
 
  Yep, but we were talking about British imitation rock so
  Vince Taylor and Cliff Richard are two important pioneers
  in the UK. I'm guessing one reason they never made a name
  for themselves in the States is because Americans didn't
  need second-rate copies of their own stars.
 
 Couldn't have said it better. :-)
 
 Plus, the music industry mechanism really wasn't in place
 to allow for mass distribution of non-US acts at that time.
 There was no market perceived for it, so it didn't really
 exist.
 
 BTW, you find the same thing in France, but for another
 reason -- the language difference. Plus the fact that rock
 sounds *terrible* in French. Rap, it can handle, but rock,
 fuggedaboudit. In France, old pop stars like Francoise
 Hardy are still minor goddesses, but old rockers like
 Johnny Hallyday are major Gods, right up there with
 Thor. :-)
 
  The Beatles probably made it because they came along
  after rock 'n' roll's heyday and added enough original
  touches of their own to make it more appealing than
  the saccharine-sweet pop that had by then become the
  norm.
 
 Tell it, sista. The US pop music scene was really in its
 doldrums before the Beatles. Many of the people who
 had grown up on it had gravitated to folk music because
 there was *energy* there, and there t'weren't none in
 pop.
 
 Then the Beatles arrived, preceded by a wave of near-
 hysterical media hype. I'm honestly not sure which con-
 tributed more to the Beatles' success in the US -- their
 talent, or the hype. I lean to the latter. See enough TV
 stories (or, in those days, movie News trailers before
 your movie) of star-struck Beatles fans and your young
 impressionable mind has already been pre-programmed
 to love them when you see them live.
 
 Still, it *was* a phenomenon in the US, Beatlemania.
 By the time it struck, I was a full-fledged folkie, both
 listening to and performing the real music, folk
 music performed by upscale white artists. :-) So they
 had to drag me away from my Dylan and Baez and
 the like to listen to a Beatles album. And to be honest,
 I wasn't knocked out at first by the sound. Even then,
 I was more fascinated by the *trend*, the fact that
 so many were so gaga over them.
 
 It took the Rolling Stones to knock my socks off. :-)
 
 
 
 
 



RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?

2013-11-04 Thread sharelong60
As I've mentioned before, Judy, I have 2 versions of email inboxes. One is 
Basic and one is Neo. Neo inbox only shows the most recent post of a thread. 
This morning I found a way to access and reply to previous posts.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Again, you make no sense, Share. What's on the Web site, of course, is Neo, so 
that excuse holds no water, sorry.
 

 Share bleated:
 
  Yes, Judy I was replying to BillyG but Neo was no longer showing his post 
  and I didn't 
  want to take the time to go to the website to reply from there. 
 
 
 
 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:57 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Did you mean to respond to BilllyG's post, Share, rather than this one? 
 

Share wrote:

  William, I wasn't referring to Judy in terms of posters scolding about 
  people not 
  snipping. She wasn't the one who was doing that.
 

 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 4:58 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Oh, did you think you were making a snappy, relevant comment here, Share?
 

 Share flubbed:

 
  OTOH, some posters have scolded some other posters for NOT snipping! Go 
  figure!
 

 You really just don't seem to be getting it about not posting any old thing 
that comes to your mind without giving it a bit of a think first.
 

 

 
 
 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:06 PM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
   Thanks for the tip 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 The post a person is responding to (and sometimes a whole string of posts in 
an exchange) always appears when you click on the three dots in the bottom left 
of the Reply box--unless the person who wrote the post has deleted everything, 
which is what BillyG does. Apparently he doesn't like to feel that he's part of 
a discussion, so he gets rid of it all before posting.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 It all depends on what software you're using. I've been monitoring FFL 
messages in IE and Firefox and I've noticed that some posts don't include what 
the person is responding to. However, when you hit reply sometimes the messages 
appear when you scroll down.
 
 And, I've also noticed that hardly anyone follows the netiquette protocols for 
formatting messages anymore. It sure would be helpful if people would do some 
formatting using the old style right angle bracket, but now I realize that's 
really asking to much of people, since mainly they are just shooting from the 
hip with one-liner snickers. There seem to be only about two serious 
respondents left here anyway.
 
 So, I'm using Thunderbird to send and reply to text only posts, but when I 
want to include an image I use Chrome, which has a nice feature to key in the 
location of the image URL. I haven't figured out what happened to the 'source 
view' in Neo to include an image URL. I've also noticed that several people 
have not figured out how to make an active URL link in any program. Go figure.
 
 P.S. At this point, I'm not even posting with the expectation that anyone but 
lurkers would read this stuff, so it's mostly for them to be amused with.
 
 On 11/2/2013 10:40 AM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   BillyG, you know, it's courteous to quote a bit of what you're responding 
to, or at least to identify the writer you're responding to. You don't do that, 
and it makes it look as though you don't want to actually have a discussion but 
rather only to make proclamations.
 
 
 
 
 




 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 




 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult

2013-11-04 Thread sharelong60
Judy of course assumes incorrectly that she knows what's going on in my mind. 
Plus she projects that I will decide that she is wrong, which is what she does! 
Actually I skimmed her post on this topic and took it as more input about the 
topic rather than as right or wrong. This points to a fundamental difference 
between us and why IMO she just about always is inaccurate in her opinions 
about me. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Share will, of course, take this single article as conclusive proof of type 3 
diabetes and decide that I was wrong. Yet what I said was that there is as yet 
no scientific consensus as to its existence.
 

 She and Xeno might want to have a look at this study (published two years 
after the one Xeno cited), just for one example:
 

 Curr Neuropharmacol. 2011 December; 9(4): 693–705.
 Consequences of Aberrant Insulin Regulation in the Brain: Can Treating 
Diabetes be Effective for Alzheimer’s Disease

 




 This study does mention type 3 diabetes in passing:
 

 It has even been suggested that AD could be considered as 'type 3 diabetes' 
since insulin can be produced in brain.

 

 Obviously has even been suggested indicates these authors do not consider 
this as much more than speculation at this point.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 J Diabetes Sci Technol. 2008 November; 2(6): 1101–1113.
 Published online 2008 November.
 

 Alzheimer's Disease Is Type 3 Diabetes–Evidence Reviewed
 

 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2769828/

 





RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Astrology in the New Testament

2013-11-04 Thread sharelong60
wgm, I've heard or read several jyotishis say that Moon signifies mind. Maybe 
they mean manos and Mercury is buddhi, intellect?
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I don't think John meant the moon signified the mind, rather the moon in 
Pieces affects the mind (like all of the other signs affect each other as a 
composite whole) in an emotional, imaginative way depending on the aspects and 
other indicators.
  
 Moon in Pieces makes one very sensitive, perhaps too much depending on the 
other aspects. FWIW
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


 John, I still a bit perplexed about why jyotish calls the Moon the 
significator of the mind, rather than Mercury.
 

 
 
 On Sunday, November 3, 2013 1:10 PM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote:
 
   Share,
 

 Pisces is a dual sign and is watery by astrological definition.  If the Moon 
is placed here, the Moon becomes more sensitive since the Moon is already 
wavering and watery by nature.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote:

 Why was it written that Jesus was born in a manger?  Because he was born on 
December 25 which astrologically lies between the signs of Sagittarius, a 
horse, and Capricorn, the goat.  Interesting?  Bill Donohue explains more of 
his observations as follows: 

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBgamp;list=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M6j6DwBWBglist=PL4HZ228v9duPReHJuT6prrAUc9BzFEo_t


 

 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 








RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult

2013-11-03 Thread sharelong60
MJ, thank you so much for your good wishes. Right now I'm resisting giving you 
tons of advice but I'll just say one thing anyway: I think a big key is being 
careful to avoid carbs and favor protein early in the day.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I wish her good fortune - I hope the nutritionist gives better advice than 
most MD's (and that doesn't mean Mother Divines) - I thought diabetes was a cut 
and dried deal medically before I had to deal with it - a lot of docs have 
their heads where the sun don't shine where diabetes is concerned
 
 On Sun, 11/3/13, Share Long sharelong60@... mailto:sharelong60@... wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:33 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 My
 Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her
 blood sugar is so high even though she injects insulin every
 day. She went from being normal to borderline to Type 2 and
 now, daily injections. A big problem is that she doesn't
 like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't
 quite get that carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway,
 I've got high hopes about this consult on Tuesday. 
 
 
 
 On Sunday, November
 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@...
 wrote:
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Isn't
 that why they call it break
 fast?
 
 
 
 People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very
 paranoid about
 missing meals.   In the 1970s among
 TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant
 mainly due to eating bad vegetarian diets.  Many
 went back to
 eating meat and felt better.  Maybe some truth in
 MMY's eat what
 your mother puts before you?  We are
 essentially what our
 ancestors ate.
 
 
 
 If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is
 to overeat
 rather than do the anal and inconvenient small meals
 throughout
 the day.
 
 
 
 On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
 
 
  
 
 
 what in the world are you all talking
 about? Who doesn't
 go for four or five hours without food or
 water?? People
 including me do that all the time. 
 
 
 
 
 On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer
 escaped
 from a cult
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Doc.
 
 What
 
 did you experience after four hours without
 food or water?
 
  Were you also meditating during the
 fast?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 I did it, once, for *four*
 
 solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus
 Day. 
 
 
 
 Nothing - not even a peanut,
 
 or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably
 don't
 
 believe me, but its true. I think my years of
 TM helped, a
 
 lot. I must have been in a trance or
 something, to
 withstand
 
 it. I seriously thought I was going to pass
 out. Almost
 like
 
 Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A
 Man Called
 
 Horse.
 
 
 
 Even so, I am working with a
 
 teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five
 hours*, of
 
 non-food, non-water - no problem. He's
 expensive, but
 
 worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost
 is ~$1,000
 
 (not including the non-food and non-water, of
 course). 
 
 
 
 This is a tough crowd, here on
 
 FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no
 cult leader.
 
 After all, I've been around the block.
 Don't
 
 knock it, 'til you've tried it.
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Michelle Pfeiffer,
 
 the actress, has disclosed that she was once
 part of a
 
 “cult” which believed humans can exist
 without food or
 
 water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c 



RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult

2013-11-03 Thread sharelong60
Well, Bhairitu, it's always a good day when I learn something new and in this 
case it's 2 new bits of info. Have not heard of either of these kinds of 
diabetes and admit am horrified by the Type 3. I still think, and am hoping I'm 
right, that diet can go far in controlling it. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 My mother's twin sister was an RN and worked for several doctors.  She told me 
once that she thought my mother was a brittle diabetic. I thought it was a 
term she made up and then looked it up.  That diagnosis fits me too.  Brittle 
diabetes never go full blown type one but have similar symptoms throughout life.
 
 There is also the relatively recently discovered type three diabetes which is 
seen to be prevalent in folks who sit on their butts and use computers a lot.  
The research on that suggests that the pancreas is not the only organ which 
secretes insulin but our brain as well.
 
 
 On 11/03/2013 08:33 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   My Mom's doc is sending her to a nutritionist because her blood sugar is so 
high even though she injects insulin every day. She went from being normal to 
borderline to Type 2 and now, daily injections. A big problem is that she 
doesn't like traditional breakfast food. And I think she doesn't quite get that 
carbs contribute to high blood sugar. Anyway, I've got high hopes about this 
consult on Tuesday. 
 
 
 
 
 On Sunday, November 3, 2013 10:27 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... 
mailto:noozguru@... wrote:
 
   
 Isn't that why they call it break fast?
 
 People who have experienced hypoglycemia get very paranoid about missing 
meals.   In the 1970s among TM'er hypoglycemia was rampant mainly due to eating 
bad vegetarian diets.  Many went back to eating meat and felt better.  Maybe 
some truth in MMY's eat what your mother puts before you?  We are essentially 
what our ancestors ate.
 
 If one is paranoid about hypoglycemia the tendency is to overeat rather than 
do the anal and inconvenient small meals throughout the day.
 
 On 11/03/2013 03:49 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
   what in the world are you all talking about? Who doesn't go for four or five 
hours without food or water?? People including me do that all the time. 
 
 On Sun, 11/3/13, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... 
wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Michelle Pfeiffer escaped from a cult
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, November 3, 2013, 4:17 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Doc.
 What
 did you experience after four hours without food or water?
  Were you also meditating during the fast?
 
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I did it, once, for *four*
 solid hours. Two years ago, around Columbus Day. 
 
 Nothing - not even a peanut,
 or half cup of tap water - zip. You probably don't
 believe me, but its true. I think my years of TM helped, a
 lot. I must have been in a trance or something, to withstand
 it. I seriously thought I was going to pass out. Almost like
 Richard Harris, in that scene, from, A Man Called
 Horse.
 
 Even so, I am working with a
 teacher, now, who says I can achieve *five hours*, of
 non-food, non-water - no problem. He's expensive, but
 worth it. I think he's Indian. Total cost is ~$1,000
 (not including the non-food and non-water, of course). 
 
 This is a tough crowd, here on
 FFL, so I'll say up front: This guy is no cult leader.
 After all, I've been around the block. Don't
 knock it, 'til you've tried it.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Michelle Pfeiffer,
 the actress, has disclosed that she was once part of a
 “cult” which believed humans can exist without food or
 water.http://tinyurl.com/odb3y4c
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Astrology and Daylight Savings

2013-11-03 Thread sharelong60
yes, emptybill, 1948, Year of the Earth Rat in Chinese astrolgy (-: Just in 
case people were getting bored with posts about jyotish and astrolgy!

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 1948? Yep, I'm also officially an old bastard now too.
 Thus, you learn a few things along the way. 

 That's why I only believe in not believing. 

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote:

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 
 Astrologers have methods for determining if the TOB recorded on the birth 
certificate is accurate. For example, by one's gender. Also by details of one's 
life. For example, a jyotishi looked at my birth time and asked if I had known 
my Dad's mother. I said yes and by using details of her life, he was able to 
determine my accurate birth time. Which was a few minutes before the time on my 
birth certificate so that made sense to me. I've been told that nurses back 
then, 1948, stepped out of the delivery room to record the time.
 

 I do not believe this has ever been tested, so it is a supposition that an 
astrologer, usinging whatever methods they use, can discover an actual birth 
time that is recorded inaccurately. My hypothesis is that rectification of 
times is a dodge developed to counteract the discrepancies that arise when 
astrology fails to predict events. By adjusting the time, the chart then 'works 
better'.
 

 If we had documented evidence of births with accurately recored times, then a 
double-blind study of astrologers trying to find those times when that 
information is withheld in various ways would be possible to see if they can 
really do that. My bet is they cannot because astrology is largely a matter of 
delusional thinking.
 

 Notice that the TMO has never published any study showing the scientific 
validity of astrology. There have been very few double-blind tests of any 
astrological system that have been well designed. There was one done at UC 
Berkeley some 25 years ago with Western astrology, and all the work was done by 
professional astrologers, and the result came out no better than chance. That 
study dealt with personality characteristics, which are difficult to define. 
The astrologers in that test were matching horoscopes with a standardised 
personality inventory. Documented evidence of birth times was required for the 
participants. The result was published in Science.
 

 Jyotish, which seems more event driven, would be easier to test. But because 
it has the same delusional underpinnings as Western astrology, I do not see how 
the results would be any better.
 

 There are questions here which seem impossible to parse. Why, for example, 
would the sex of a child have an effect on the birth time? What laws of nature 
would be invoked and how do they function?


 
 
 




RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

2013-11-02 Thread sharelong60
Richard, why isn't Elizabeth Warren on your list? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Let's see, the Democrats have Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden as possible 
candidates for the next presidential election.
 
 The Republicans have Ted Cruz, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Marco Rubio, Nikki 
Haley, Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, Paul Ryan, Mike Pence, Rick 
Santorum, and Jeb Bush. Go figure. 
 
 Here are a six reasons I won't be supporting Hillary Clinton:
 
 1. She was in favor of invading Afghanistan.
 2. She was opposed to a  surge in Afghanistan.
 3. She was in favor of invading Iraq.
 4. She was opposed to the surge in Iraq.
 5. She failed to protect the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.
 6. She lied about the Benghazi attack and tried to cover it up, blaming it on 
a video.
 
 You probably won't be this on MSNBC any time soon:
 
 'Why is Hillary Clinton's popularity sliding?'
 The Week:
 http://theweek.com/hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding 
http://theweek.com/article/index/252160/why-is-hillary-clintons-popularity-sliding
 
 'New Poll Shows Democratic Incumbents in Big Trouble'
 Newsbusters:
 http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mother-jones-shocker 
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/11/01/mother-jones-shocker-new-poll-shows-democratic-incumbents-big-trouble#ixzz2jPrsL4lG
 
 On 11/1/2013 2:08 PM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Ha! Just proves that Emily and Judy don't know me at all. I would never vote 
for Hillary because IMO she acted like a door mat when she didn't divorce Bill 
after the Monica affair.
 
 On Fri, 11/1/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 
 Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 
10 years!
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:49 PM
 
 
 
 



RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Growing up transgendered or, confused?

2013-11-02 Thread sharelong60
William, I've been catching up with my Mom this morning so haven't been able to 
reply until now. Also I've got that knowledge meeting this afternoon. Anyway, 
thanks for your reply and I'll say more later but for now: who knows what 
really happened in Atlantis? Why, those of us who were there and remember! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 What the Universe gives birth to (Mother Nature) is different than what 'man' 
gives birth to often times, unless you think man has no freewill.
 

 CLutes expressed that opinion/view of the 3/3 lifetimes Man/Woman, it may be 
true, doesn't justify homosexuality or the view, I was just born gay, there 
is nothing inherently wrong with an effeminate man, per se. As we sow, so shall 
we reap.
 

 Apparently the Atlantians were using Black Magic to create all forms of 
perversions, who really knows? :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 William, a few responses to this. First of all, I think infinite Being gives 
birth to infinite universe, which means a heck of a lot of variety. I don't 
think there's any way to box infinity, either of Being or of its expression, 
the universe. 

 

 Secondly, Mike D has offered the explanation that we all spend 3 lives as a 
man, then as a woman, alternating like that over and over. That the life after 
three lives as one gender can contain some remnant of those previous three 
lives as the opposite gender. What do you think?
 

 Lastly, I've heard that Atlantis was creating horrible weapons and that's why 
it was destroyed.

 
 
 On Saturday, November 2, 2013 8:08 AM, wgm4u no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
   I found this story to be rather disturbing in that the 'parents' were acting 
more as 'enablers' (as well as the doctors). It reminded me of the fabled story 
of the Lost Continent of Atlantis where they were creating men that were half 
animal and half man. Ultimately nature (the Gods, or the laws of nature) 
destroyed Atlantis in an effort to maintain balance in the World.
 

 Transgendered Humans are 'mans' creation, not God's, as such it throws off the 
balance and equilibrium of what MMY called the Divine Plan, these *hormone 
modified humans* are an invention of Man, can you imagine what will happen when 
we are able to make *genetically modified humans*, all kinds of freaks will 
appear unless we cooperate with natural law to the best of our ability to 
understand that law.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote:

 Thanks for posting.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epDPui27QZQ


 

 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 








RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

2013-11-01 Thread sharelong60
Well, speaking as a Democrat I'd say that Hillary Clinton is not a fit 
candidate. Mainly because I don't think the American people would ever elect 
her!  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 It is really strange behavior to say the least. Judy is a real case, and I'm 
not the first person to note that she can be very disagreeable.
 
 WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton is not a fit candidate to be 
the next U.S. President!
 
 So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to a.m.t. on Usenet, (some of 
which I've updated and posted to FFL), over a period of about five years 
starting in 1999, without getting a single response from Judy. Then, in about 
2001, a few days after I posted a message calling into question Judy's claim 
that Bush lied about the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq, I started getting all 
kinds of nasty messages from Judy. She went just about ape-shit, calling me a 
troll and a scumbag and a liar. She encouraged everyone on the list to shun me 
and has been doing so almost every week since then - for over ten years! 
Apparently Judy has some influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on FFL 
but she doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep up the good work
 
 http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm 
http://www.rwilliams.us/archives.htm
 
 Has anyone else in the group noticed that Judy is picking on Share? While my 
beef with Judy may have some substance, Share seems like a pretty decent person 
who just likes to talk with people. Regardless of what Judy has said about me, 
I find her antagonism toward Share to be very mean-spirited. Judy really has 
taken a turn for the worse, in my opinion . Go figure.
 
 But, even more strange is the silence from some of the other informants 
posting here. Where I come from, silence usually indicates agreement. Thanks 
for speaking out.
 
 
 
 On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   Yeah, Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had always been so friendly 
before that!
 
 
 
 
 On Friday, November 1, 2013 9:41 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
mailto:punditster@... wrote:
 
   
 Yeah, I think we had this conversation recently and several nasty comments 
were posted by Judy and Emily about Share making this same point. Go figure.
 
 ...both told me I should be drinking up to three litres of liquid a day for 
my body to function at its best.
 
 On 10/31/2013 10:54 AM, cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:
 
   
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2480491/How-drinking-litres-water-day-took-years-face.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

2013-11-01 Thread sharelong60
MJ, IMO, that's where Hillary should have drawn the line with regards to his 
womanizing. I mean, that affair occurred on the world stage! And the woman was 
so young! I've read that Hillary really loves Bill. Even more reason she should 
have stopped enabling him. Long overdue IMO.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Why would Hillary divorce him over that? He had already had numerous affairs 
after he became governor in Arkansas - you don't understand the motivation of 
such a person - its better to have a philandering husband who is President than 
a faithful one who is a nobody.
 
 On Fri, 11/1/13, emilymaenot@... mailto:emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
mailto:emilymaenot@... wrote:
 
 Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- 
minus 10 years!
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 7:21 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Share, I am forced to retract my statement of
 your intelligence, at least for today.
  I'm sorry.  Don't hold it against me,
 O.K.? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Ha! Just proves
 that Emily and Judy don't know me at all. I would never
 vote for Hillary because IMO she acted like a door mat when
 she didn't divorce Bill after the Monica affair.
 
 
 
 On Fri, 11/1/13, emilymaenot@...
 emilymaenot@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of
 H2O per day -- minus 10 years!
 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
 Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 1:49 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I know...I was just teasing her because she is
 
 so transparent about it!  LOL  
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Because
 
 she hopes it will annoy me if she says so, of course. As
 
 if...! 
 
 emilymaenot wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 Why don't you think the American people would elect
 her?
 

 
 
 
 ---In
 
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Well,
 
 speaking as a Democrat I'd say that Hillary Clinton is
 
 not a fit candidate. Mainly because I don't think the
 
 American people would ever elect her!  
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 
 fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 It
 
 is really strange behavior to say
 
 the least. Judy is a real case, and I'm not the
 
 first person to
 
 note that she can be very disagreeable.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 WARNING: Don't ever suggest that Hillary Clinton
 
 is not a fit
 
 candidate to be the next U.S. President!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 So, I probably posted hundreds of on-topic posts to
 
 a.m.t. on
 
 Usenet, (some of which I've updated and posted
 to
 
 FFL), over a
 
 period of about five years starting in 1999, without
 
 getting a
 
 single response from Judy. Then, in about 2001, a
 few
 
 days after I
 
 posted a message calling into question Judy's
 
 claim that Bush lied
 
 about the reason the U.S. invaded Iraq, I started
 
 getting all
 
 kinds of nasty messages from Judy. She went just
 about
 
 ape-shit,
 
 calling me a troll and a scumbag and a liar. She
 
 encouraged
 
 everyone on the list to shun me and has been doing
 so
 
 almost every
 
 week since then - for over ten years! Apparently
 Judy
 
 has some
 
 influence over the Minions, Pips and Mean Girls on
 FFL
 
 but she
 
 doesn't seem to be getting the best of you. Keep
 
 up the good work
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm 
http://www.rwilliams.us/usenet/archives.htm
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Has anyone else in the group noticed that Judy is
 
 picking on
 
 Share? While my beef with Judy may have some
 
 substance, Share
 
 seems like a pretty decent person who just likes to
 
 talk with
 
 people. Regardless of what Judy has said about me, I
 
 find her
 
 antagonism toward Share to be very mean-spirited.
 Judy
 
 really has
 
 taken a turn for the worse, in my opinion . Go
 
 figure.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 But, even more strange is the silence from some of
 the
 
 other
 
 informants posting here. Where I come from, silence
 
 usually
 
 indicates agreement. Thanks for speaking out.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 11/1/2013 9:47 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 Yeah,
 
 Richard, that was definitely weird. Judy had
 
 always been
 
 so friendly before that!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Austerity for Americans begins today

2013-11-01 Thread sharelong60
I would bet that not one person on FFL is snickering at Bhairitu. But admit 
that I'm still amazed at how much nastiness Judy can pack into one short post.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Er, Bhairitu...
 

 No, never mind, I'll just let this sit here for people to snicker at: 
 

 Bhairitu bumbled:

 
  Judy, the conspiracy theorist.
 
 On 11/01/2013 12:30 PM, authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Yes, clearly the shooting incident was carefully planned to distract 
attention from the food stamp cuts. 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Well the TSA shooting at LAX which was between a couple of TSA agents 
 seems to have knocked off what should have been the lead article on the 
 news: the food stamp cuts that went into effect today (how convenient).
 
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/01/food-stamps-snap-cuts-farm-bill/3346341/
 
 The war on the poor by the rich ramps up. Time to organize and go 
 after the rich. Let's party like it's Greece and Spain.
 
 
 
 





RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

2013-11-01 Thread sharelong60
Doc, it's not just because of what was exposed. It was how she reacted to what 
was exposed. And that she was an enabler, allowing it to happen over and over 
during all those previous years and doing seemingly little to take a stand 
against it.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Fair enough - your opinions, and your vote, are certainly your own, but to 
cast Hillary as some sort of victim, and an enabler, simply because of what was 
exposed, I think is short-sighted. 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I agree that no one knows what goes on in a marriage. However, when one 
willingly becomes a public figure, then one has to accept that one's private 
life is also going to come under scrutiny. My opinion is based on the 
observable behaviors not on what I imagine anyone was thinking or feeling. 
 

 
 
 On Friday, November 1, 2013 3:54 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
What we should all recognize (but only some of us have the smarts to 
understand) is that NOBODY KNOWS what goes on inside a marriage but the two 
people in it. (Unless they choose to tell us; Bill and Hillary chose not to 
tell us what went on between them with regard to the Monica affair. And good 
for them; it's none of our damn business.)
 

 We cannot know what contingencies, agreements, understandings, conditions, 
promises, etc., etc., are operative in a given marriage (ESPECIALLY when it's 
one we see only from a distance through the media).
 

 It is the absolute height of arrogant stupidity to declare that he or she or 
they should have done this, that, or the other thing in connection with a 
marital problem.
 

 It's fine to say, If I were Hillary, I would have done thus-and-so. 
(Although obviously you don't really know what you would have done given that 
you don't know what it's like to be married to Bill.)
 

 But for all we know, it could have been Bill who was the doormat in this 
situation. Think about it. If you don't see how that might have been the case, 
you have a very limited imagination, not to mention knowledge of human beings.
 

 (Caveat for the brainlessly literal-minded: I'm not saying I think that WAS 
the case, just that it could have been. It could have been a lot of other 
things too. We simply do not know enough to have an opinion.)
 

Share spewed:

  MJ, IMO, that's where Hillary should have drawn the line with regards to his 
  womanizing. I mean, that affair 
  occurred on the world stage! And the woman was so young! I've read that 
  Hillary really loves Bill. Even 
  more reason she should have stopped enabling him. Long overdue IMO.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Why would Hillary divorce him over that? He had already had numerous affairs 
after he became governor in Arkansas - you don't understand the motivation of 
such a person - its better to have a philandering husband who is President than 
a faithful one who is a nobody.





 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] 3 liters of H2O per day -- minus 10 years!

2013-11-01 Thread sharelong60
I still don't understand how Clinton could have been so well, dumb. Was she 
really that attractive?! Ok, maybe he cracked under the pressure of the job. 
But really, so much about it is unfathomable. Must be karma (-: 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Who knows the truth of it? I kinda agree with Judy on this one, about the 
public view of private lives, up to a point. For example, that former head of 
the IMF, who turned out to be a rapist, should be publicly castrated, imo. As 
far as Bill and Hillary, though, and all of their drama, all I can muster, is a 
shrug. Wouldn't affect my vote at all.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Doc, it's not just because of what was exposed. It was how she reacted to what 
was exposed. And that she was an enabler, allowing it to happen over and over 
during all those previous years and doing seemingly little to take a stand 
against it.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Fair enough - your opinions, and your vote, are certainly your own, but to 
cast Hillary as some sort of victim, and an enabler, simply because of what was 
exposed, I think is short-sighted. 
  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I agree that no one knows what goes on in a marriage. However, when one 
willingly becomes a public figure, then one has to accept that one's private 
life is also going to come under scrutiny. My opinion is based on the 
observable behaviors not on what I imagine anyone was thinking or feeling. 
 

 
 
 On Friday, November 1, 2013 3:54 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
What we should all recognize (but only some of us have the smarts to 
understand) is that NOBODY KNOWS what goes on inside a marriage but the two 
people in it. (Unless they choose to tell us; Bill and Hillary chose not to 
tell us what went on between them with regard to the Monica affair. And good 
for them; it's none of our damn business.)
 

 We cannot know what contingencies, agreements, understandings, conditions, 
promises, etc., etc., are operative in a given marriage (ESPECIALLY when it's 
one we see only from a distance through the media).
 

 It is the absolute height of arrogant stupidity to declare that he or she or 
they should have done this, that, or the other thing in connection with a 
marital problem.
 

 It's fine to say, If I were Hillary, I would have done thus-and-so. 
(Although obviously you don't really know what you would have done given that 
you don't know what it's like to be married to Bill.)
 

 But for all we know, it could have been Bill who was the doormat in this 
situation. Think about it. If you don't see how that might have been the case, 
you have a very limited imagination, not to mention knowledge of human beings.
 

 (Caveat for the brainlessly literal-minded: I'm not saying I think that WAS 
the case, just that it could have been. It could have been a lot of other 
things too. We simply do not know enough to have an opinion.)
 

Share spewed:

  MJ, IMO, that's where Hillary should have drawn the line with regards to his 
  womanizing. I mean, that affair 
  occurred on the world stage! And the woman was so young! I've read that 
  Hillary really loves Bill. Even 
  more reason she should have stopped enabling him. Long overdue IMO.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Why would Hillary divorce him over that? He had already had numerous affairs 
after he became governor in Arkansas - you don't understand the motivation of 
such a person - its better to have a philandering husband who is President than 
a faithful one who is a nobody.





 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 











RE: RE: Re: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are The Boomers Headed?

2013-10-31 Thread sharelong60
Emily, you and Ann were discussing your birthdays last year. Hers is Nov 4. You 
told FFL you were turning 50 and I remember it was at the end of Oct. Lots of 
my relatives have birthdays then, maybe that's why I remember.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Do you remember why you thought my birthday was close to Ann's?  I don't 
remember or know when hers is, but I haven't been taking Ginkgo Biloba or 
curcumin or anything else to assist my slowly failing memory.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Emily, did I remember correctly? Ann's is coming up soon too and I thought 
they were close together.
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:54 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
wrote:
 
Hey Share, will you remind me how it is that you thought this?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Emily, Happy Birthday coming up, if I remember correctly... 

 

 

 
 
 
 







 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Helplessly Hoping

2013-10-31 Thread sharelong60
turq, I think you're right about He's A Rebel not being true Motown. How about 
Sam and Dave?
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnzLc_iwQDk

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
 
 He's A Rebel! Because my First Love was a rebel who attended Joan Baez' 
 school for non violence in and became a true CO, doing his *military* time in 
 a VA hospital. Amazing soul was he...

 No offense intended, but I don't think that He's A Rebel qualifies
as Motown.  It's more of a Phil Spector thang.  :-)

As Pure Motown goes, it's hard to top Smokey.

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kxlZDOHeQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kxlZDOHeQ
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2kxlZDOHeQ 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgp5QOqwH-s 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgp5QOqwH-shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgp5QOqwH-s
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgp5QOqwH-s 



  On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:32 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... 
  wrote:
 
 Share, what were your favorite Motown songs? 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 I feel so lucky to have grown up in such an amazing time for music.  I can 
 still remember the first time I heard I Wanna Hold Your Hand. Goose bumps! 
 But Motown was also wonderful during my teen years as well as the protest 
 music.  
 
 On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:29 PM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  This song changed my life fifty years ago.
  
  I guess I'm not the only old fart who feels that way about it:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I4pIULFGLIÂ 
 
 Still tripping on Crosby, Stills and Nash after discovering
 this treasure, I thought I'd post the song that started it all.
 
 As I remember the story, Steven wrote the song and taught
 it to David. They worked on harmonies for it, but David 
 always thought that it needed a third voice. 
 
 So they go over to Joni Mitchell's house, and there they 
 meet for the first
 time this guy from England who they 
 really only know as the voice of The Hollies. And things
 progress and get wild and wooly the way things got back
 in those days of Laurel Canyon house parties, and at 
 some point Steven and David start to sing Helplessly
 Hoping, which of course no one has heard before. 
 
 On the second verse, David heard Graham Nash join
 in, singing the *exact* third harmony part he had 
 written in his head. And the rest is history. 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtFRsCXRcc 

 



RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-30 Thread sharelong60
Thanks, wgm, maybe there's hope for me yet with regards to authfriend! Hey I 
liked what you posted about Rick's latest Batgap interview. I guess you're 
doing pretty good even if you don't know about the gap (-:

 Will read again and try to give a more serious response...

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 She (Judy) has pulled that card on me too, more than once. It's OK if it's 
done politely, but not as a rebut in and of itself, which I think she likes to 
use it as. It's more or less nothing but a red herring used that way.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 That really upset you, did it? I mean, with your Advanced Expert Grammar Class 
and all that. Because it wasn't just any old ordinary dime-a-dozen typo. When 
it's a proper noun, the name of a place, which has been in print zillions of 
times in the last year, it just amazes me that anybody could get the last 
letter wrong, giving the name a whole different syllable at the end. I guess 
maybe you don't read much in the way of news, huh?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  Yeah, Richard but I think my best cheering up of Judy occurred when I 
  misspelled 
  Fukushima. One wrong letter and she was happily correcting. Did someone say: 
  do less and 
  accomplish more (-:
 

 

 Ha ha ha.

 

 
 
 
 


 





RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-30 Thread sharelong60
Judy, I look at it like how the Navajos leave a mistake in the weaving of a 
blanket to honor the Great Spirit, the only one who creates perfection.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 That really upset you, did it? I mean, with your Advanced Expert Grammar Class 
and all that. Because it wasn't just any old ordinary dime-a-dozen typo. When 
it's a proper noun, the name of a place, which has been in print zillions of 
times in the last year, it just amazes me that anybody could get the last 
letter wrong, giving the name a whole different syllable at the end. I guess 
maybe you don't read much in the way of news, huh?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  Yeah, Richard but I think my best cheering up of Judy occurred when I 
  misspelled 
  Fukushima. One wrong letter and she was happily correcting. Did someone say: 
  do less and 
  accomplish more (-:
 

 

 Ha ha ha.

 

 
 
 
 


 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-29 Thread sharelong60
Ann, Brother David's gratefulness suggestion has been wonderful for me during 
challenging times. He reminds me of Father Keating, both having a simple piety 
that deeply moves me. The thing I realize is, gratitude is always present, just 
like love and truth and grace, but sometimes it's helpful to have a reminder of 
that. Then it just flows by itself. I love this analogy: God's grace is always 
present like the wind in a windy place. But we have to put up our sail to 
*catch it.*  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 I'm into gratitude these days. I just find one little thing to feel grateful 
for and then a whole bunch of other stuff pops into my mind.
 

 How does one get into gratitude? Isn't it something spontaneous and 
unexpected? Isn't it something that can occur at any moment, unannounced and 
heartfelt? Or maybe you just decide it is the day to feel grateful because you 
haven't felt that for a while and it is probably time -sort of like deciding 
you better take that multi vitamin because you haven't done so for a week now.
 

 Feeling grateful for things in your life, in the world around you isn't some 
prescriptive necessity. It's either present or it isn't. What, in particular, 
are you grateful for today Share? And did you feel that right out of the wild 
blue yonder? Or did you have to conciously put your attention on the fact that 
it was Monday and so you had to experience some aspect of gratefulness  - like 
wearing that pair of underwear that corresponds to the appropriate day of the 
week because it says Monday.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm 
http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm I've even been grateful 
for gratitude (-:

 
 
 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   
 Hope - yeah, that's the ticket!
 
 A detailed depiction of a certain taboo male fantasy: the uninhibited poor 
American anti-social bachelor, alone and self-absorbed, wearing a goatee and a 
black T-shirt, typing into an iPhone - utterly free. That's our Uncle Tantra - 
full of hope that someone, anyone, will love him for what he is - a great and 
wise spiritual teacher. Go figure.
 
 There's_Gonna_Be_a_God_Damn_Riot_in_Here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2175989/
 
 On 10/26/2013 8:27 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
   That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm
 sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at
 this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel.
 That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little
 things.
 
 But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and
 discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound
 like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing
 cafe, is HOPE.
 
 OK, here goes.
 
 Hope. I still have it, in spades.
 
 Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the
 past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than
 I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be*
 hopeful.
 
 It's really not such a bad place.
 
 Get over it, if you believe it is.
 
 This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And
 these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed
 hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become.
 
 When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina
 with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and
 I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless.
 
 It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo.
 Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless
 after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the
 other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to
 stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But
 she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one
 of her last coins to go in and watch the movie.
 
 And up on the screen is Fred Astaire. And suddenly there is hope.
 Because no world that has Fred Astaire in it could possibly be hopeless.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 




 
 
 
 



 




[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-29 Thread sharelong60
Doc, Brother David's gratitude practice, imho, goes way beyond affirmations 
because it positively affects the energy body, not just the mental or emotional 
bodies. As for healing childhood traumas, yes that can take some time, but in 
my experience, healing happens on its own schedule. That timeline too can be 
surrendered to. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Its a good challenge, Ann. I never much cared for affirmations of the day, or 
any of that. You show a lot more gratitude for Share, through your response to 
her, than she does, through the unfocused expression of gratitude she has made. 

 

 Oftentimes, when people are blocked from seeing themselves completely, due to 
past trauma, they attempt to reconnect with themselves, by seeing teachers, who 
make them feel good, or adopting any strategy, like mindfulness, or 
affirmation, to try to increase their range of feeling. 

 

 Until that trauma is recognized, and healed, the expressions of that limited 
range of feeling, can come across, to others, as vague, dry, and empty, despite 
the actual words and ideas professed (even 'gratitude'). Or, as much of Barry's 
stuff does, it comes across as too well rehearsed; detailed, but like a house 
that has been vacant for a long time. 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 I'm into gratitude these days. I just find one little thing to feel grateful 
for and then a whole bunch of other stuff pops into my mind.
 

 How does one get into gratitude? Isn't it something spontaneous and 
unexpected? Isn't it something that can occur at any moment, unannounced and 
heartfelt? Or maybe you just decide it is the day to feel grateful because you 
haven't felt that for a while and it is probably time -sort of like deciding 
you better take that multi vitamin because you haven't done so for a week now.
 

 Feeling grateful for things in your life, in the world around you isn't some 
prescriptive necessity. It's either present or it isn't. What, in particular, 
are you grateful for today Share? And did you feel that right out of the wild 
blue yonder? Or did you have to conciously put your attention on the fact that 
it was Monday and so you had to experience some aspect of gratefulness  - like 
wearing that pair of underwear that corresponds to the appropriate day of the 
week because it says Monday.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm 
http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm I've even been grateful 
for gratitude (-:

 
 
 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   
 Hope - yeah, that's the ticket!
 
 A detailed depiction of a certain taboo male fantasy: the uninhibited poor 
American anti-social bachelor, alone and self-absorbed, wearing a goatee and a 
black T-shirt, typing into an iPhone - utterly free. That's our Uncle Tantra - 
full of hope that someone, anyone, will love him for what he is - a great and 
wise spiritual teacher. Go figure.
 
 There's_Gonna_Be_a_God_Damn_Riot_in_Here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2175989/
 
 On 10/26/2013 8:27 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
   That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm
 sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at
 this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel.
 That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little
 things.
 
 But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and
 discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound
 like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing
 cafe, is HOPE.
 
 OK, here goes.
 
 Hope. I still have it, in spades.
 
 Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the
 past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than
 I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be*
 hopeful.
 
 It's really not such a bad place.
 
 Get over it, if you believe it is.
 
 This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And
 these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed
 hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become.
 
 When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina
 with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and
 I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless.
 
 It's like the ending to Woody Allen's The Purple Rose Of Cairo.
 Cecilia (Mia Farrow) has had a bad day. She's on the street, homeless
 after telling her abusive husband to fuck off, and finding out that the
 other man she'd fallen in love with is fictional. She has nowhere to
 stay, and nowhere to go, and has very little money in her pockets. But
 she finds herself standing in front of a movie theater, and spends one
 of her

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-29 Thread sharelong60
Doc, that's what I love about FFL, so many people rolling all different ways. 
Less chance of traffic jams that way! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Hi Share, no doubt it works for you. I am not calling into question the 
benefits of these teachers and healers - just not the way I roll, at all.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Doc, Brother David's gratitude practice, imho, goes way beyond affirmations 
because it positively affects the energy body, not just the mental or emotional 
bodies. As for healing childhood traumas, yes that can take some time, but in 
my experience, healing happens on its own schedule. That timeline too can be 
surrendered to. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Its a good challenge, Ann. I never much cared for affirmations of the day, or 
any of that. You show a lot more gratitude for Share, through your response to 
her, than she does, through the unfocused expression of gratitude she has made. 

 

 Oftentimes, when people are blocked from seeing themselves completely, due to 
past trauma, they attempt to reconnect with themselves, by seeing teachers, who 
make them feel good, or adopting any strategy, like mindfulness, or 
affirmation, to try to increase their range of feeling. 

 

 Until that trauma is recognized, and healed, the expressions of that limited 
range of feeling, can come across, to others, as vague, dry, and empty, despite 
the actual words and ideas professed (even 'gratitude'). Or, as much of Barry's 
stuff does, it comes across as too well rehearsed; detailed, but like a house 
that has been vacant for a long time. 

 

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 I'm into gratitude these days. I just find one little thing to feel grateful 
for and then a whole bunch of other stuff pops into my mind.
 

 How does one get into gratitude? Isn't it something spontaneous and 
unexpected? Isn't it something that can occur at any moment, unannounced and 
heartfelt? Or maybe you just decide it is the day to feel grateful because you 
haven't felt that for a while and it is probably time -sort of like deciding 
you better take that multi vitamin because you haven't done so for a week now.
 

 Feeling grateful for things in your life, in the world around you isn't some 
prescriptive necessity. It's either present or it isn't. What, in particular, 
are you grateful for today Share? And did you feel that right out of the wild 
blue yonder? Or did you have to conciously put your attention on the fact that 
it was Monday and so you had to experience some aspect of gratefulness  - like 
wearing that pair of underwear that corresponds to the appropriate day of the 
week because it says Monday.
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm 
http://www.gratefulness.org/brotherdavid/a-good-day.htm I've even been grateful 
for gratitude (-:

 
 
 On Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:11 AM, Richard J. Williams punditster@... 
wrote:
 
   
 Hope - yeah, that's the ticket!
 
 A detailed depiction of a certain taboo male fantasy: the uninhibited poor 
American anti-social bachelor, alone and self-absorbed, wearing a goatee and a 
black T-shirt, typing into an iPhone - utterly free. That's our Uncle Tantra - 
full of hope that someone, anyone, will love him for what he is - a great and 
wise spiritual teacher. Go figure.
 
 There's_Gonna_Be_a_God_Damn_Riot_in_Here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2175989/
 
 On 10/26/2013 8:27 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
   That's what it says on the steet sign across the road from where I'm
 sitting. The Street Of Hope. Cool. And the password for the free Wifi at
 this cafe is 'cafe'. That's cool, too. And they have Westmalle Tripel.
 That's just WAY cool. What can I say? I am easily amused by little
 things.
 
 But still, doesn't sitting down in a new cafe to write in and
 discovering that you're literally sitting on the Street Of Hope sound
 like a *sign*? Maybe what I should write about, in this new writing
 cafe, is HOPE.
 
 OK, here goes.
 
 Hope. I still have it, in spades.
 
 Despite what has been said about me on this forum and others in the
 past, I am *not* at heart a cynic. I know few people *more* hopeful than
 I am. And I see ample reason in the world I see around me to *be*
 hopeful.
 
 It's really not such a bad place.
 
 Get over it, if you believe it is.
 
 This world is full of great beauty and great art and great love. And
 these things are there even in the darkest corners of supposed
 hopelessness. And what you focus on, you become.
 
 When I find someone who's invented a new artform, as has Elena Divina
 with her Cyr wheel in the videos I posted earlier, I focus on that, and
 I feel more hopeful. A world that can produce that is FAR from hopeless.
 
 It's

RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-29 Thread sharelong60
Judy, imitating me! The highest form of flattery (-: 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Share, your opinion of my opinions about you are wrong, but you are entitled 
to them anyway.
 

 Share wrote: 
 
  Judy, your opinions about me are wrong and you are entitled to them anyway.
 
 


 With reference to my earlier post, this response from Share falls under the 
heading of whether it even makes any sense to go there in the first place. Of 
course she isn't going to agree with my opinions of her, and of course I'm 
entitled to them anyway. Was anyone in any doubt about this, or was it an 
utterly useless remark on her part?
 

 
 
 On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:42 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   SMASH. Didn't signal the turn, didn't pay any attention to oncoming traffic.
 

 Share, the bottom line is that you don't take the opportunity to learn. You 
knock over all the orange cones and pretend they were never there in the first 
place, all the while mouthing empty platitudes that you think are deep insights.
 

 Share wrote:
 Bottom line, traffic jams or not, it's all grist for the mill. Meaning, it's 
all an opportunity for learning.

 
 
 
 On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Actually it makes traffic jams more likely because of the much greater 
number of accidents when folks rolling in different directions smash into each 
other. It's especially problematic when some people aren't paying any attention 
to where they're going and don't think through how they're going to get there, 
or whether it even makes any sense to go there in the first place.
 
Share wrote:
 Doc, that's what I love about FFL, so many people rolling all different ways. 
 Less chance of traffic jams that 
  way!
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-29 Thread sharelong60
turq, I'm grateful that I don't mind fu er, messing up. And now that Judy's 
imitating me, I have hope that she'll allow herself and everyone else to mess 
up now and then. Just for the fun of it.
 Speaking of fun, I got Castle out of the library, am officially smitten by 
Nathan Fallion. Yeah, he's cute. But mainly he's a nice guy who's also light 
hearted. Now I definitely have to see Serenity. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
 
 Share, your opinion of my opinions about you are wrong, 
  but you are entitled to them anyway. 

 Ah, pretty much the ultimate statement. Be thankful
you're still entitled to your opinion, Share. Some 
of us are not. :-)

Judy knows best. Or, as she put it once before:

I have a lot more faith in my sense of why you behave as 
you do than I do in what you tell me of why you behave 
as you do.
- Judy Stein, 13 July 2013

It's a matter of faith, y'see. 

Judy's faith is real, and always right. Yours is wrong.

:-)








RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Rue de l#39;Esperance

2013-10-29 Thread sharelong60
In Which Judy Empathizes With An Orange Traffic Cone. There's hope for her yet!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 And this is in the category of knocking over all the orange cones and 
pretending they were never there in the first place, all the while mouthing 
empty platitudes that she thinks are deep insights.
 
Share mouthed:
  Judy, imitating me! The highest form of flattery (-: 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Share, your opinion of my opinions about you are wrong, but you are entitled 
to them anyway.
 

 Share wrote: 
 
  Judy, your opinions about me are wrong and you are entitled to them anyway.
 
 


 With reference to my earlier post, this response from Share falls under the 
heading of whether it even makes any sense to go there in the first place. Of 
course she isn't going to agree with my opinions of her, and of course I'm 
entitled to them anyway. Was anyone in any doubt about this, or was it an 
utterly useless remark on her part?
 

 
 
 On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 11:42 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   SMASH. Didn't signal the turn, didn't pay any attention to oncoming traffic.
 

 Share, the bottom line is that you don't take the opportunity to learn. You 
knock over all the orange cones and pretend they were never there in the first 
place, all the while mouthing empty platitudes that you think are deep insights.
 

 Share wrote:
 Bottom line, traffic jams or not, it's all grist for the mill. Meaning, it's 
all an opportunity for learning.

 
 
 
 On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 10:57 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:
 
   Actually it makes traffic jams more likely because of the much greater 
number of accidents when folks rolling in different directions smash into each 
other. It's especially problematic when some people aren't paying any attention 
to where they're going and don't think through how they're going to get there, 
or whether it even makes any sense to go there in the first place.
 
Share wrote:
 Doc, that's what I love about FFL, so many people rolling all different ways. 
 Less chance of traffic jams that 
  way!
 



 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 









RE: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are The Boomers Headed?

2013-10-26 Thread sharelong60
Emily, those are both pretty funny. Actually swim with dolphins is what first 
popped into my head. Probably on the east coast ha ha. Hmmm, wonder what fried 
Godzilla would taste like, organic of course...

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 I thought maybe that  it might include: 1) Stop Eating Food or 2) Get 
Enlightened. :) 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Emily, Bucket List, not for sharing on social media IMO!
 

 
 
 On Friday, October 25, 2013 2:24 PM, emilymaenot@... emilymaenot@... wrote:
 
   What is on your bucket list, Share?   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 turq, I'm light all right. Gave up eating salmon, for one thing!
 

 
 
 On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:57 PM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Anyone who doesn't think that the whole planet is being adversely 
 affected by radiation from Fukushima are IMO in denial. Better 
 to face it without fear and figure out how to handle it. 

Lighten up, Share. It's not as if radiation creates awful monsters
or anything. And even if it does, how bad can they be if they have
the word 'God' in their name?




http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg 
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg 
 
 
 

 




 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







[FairfieldLife] RE: The curse of #39;Draculaquot;......

2013-10-26 Thread sharelong60
So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that 
during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ 
and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take 
on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate 
bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the 
intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What 
do you think? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The 
*blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so 
forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and 
death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until 
the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained 
through meditation and God realization.  ( Hey,  a little Halloween here, 
enjoy!)
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Re: Gettin#39; off on the wheel

2013-10-26 Thread sharelong60
Steve, not so fast! Tell us what's happening down St. Louis way. How's the 
family, the business, etc? 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Great way to start the morning! Thanks for that. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
 I've never really understood those seekers who want to get off the
 wheel, meaning the endless cycle of life, death, rebirth, and karma.
 I've always thought that people who have this as their goal in life just
 never learned how much fun you can have with a wheel. This video is for
 them.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4eBw4wxzzA 

 OMG, another one:

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE 


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIthWLdF3sE





RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where Are The Boomers Headed?

2013-10-26 Thread sharelong60
Emily, Happy Birthday coming up, if I remember correctly... 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 What is on your bucket list, Share?   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 turq, I'm light all right. Gave up eating salmon, for one thing!
 

 
 
 On Friday, October 25, 2013 12:57 PM, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:

 Anyone who doesn't think that the whole planet is being adversely 
 affected by radiation from Fukushima are IMO in denial. Better 
 to face it without fear and figure out how to handle it. 

Lighten up, Share. It's not as if radiation creates awful monsters
or anything. And even if it does, how bad can they be if they have
the word 'God' in their name?




http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg 
http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Godzilla_8b8f1e_509655.jpg 
 
 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 







[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

2013-10-23 Thread sharelong60
turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm sure a lot of long term 
TMers would be also. The ones I know are practical, intelligent and 
compassionate. Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about and do 
something for world peace. Maybe whirled peas too (-: 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Just a note of caution to those who still believe that If we charge 
more/less/enough for TM, they will come, *they* in this case being the untold 
millions you think are required to make the world a better place and who are 
out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach. Consider who 
you're talking to, and what *they* believe.

The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American Public is 
quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them probably wouldn't make 
it through the 15 day waiting period. The legalization of marijuana has five 
times the number of supporters as Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by 
homosexual behavior, and 53% believe that same-sex marriage should be 
legalized. The more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard 
TMers just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world. 


http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10
 

Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because they're 
*pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that Americans aren't quite 
the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea Party and others would have 
you believe they are. But such pragmatism is not gonna be appealed to by Woo 
Woo propaganda about how many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin 
made of polystyrene foam, and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.

The thing that would make TM marketable again IMO would be a return to the 
more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple 
relaxation technique that would help to make you less stressed and more 
productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives a shit about 
enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that one, my bet is that 
the percentage of people they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two 
digits, and the number who would actually pay money for it would be a fraction 
of that. 

A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help to lower 
stress levels is marketable. A Woo Woo gateway drug that only seeks to hook 
people on a path to spending several hours of their day bouncing on their butts 
with other people to create Whiled Peas is not. Just sayin'...





[FairfieldLife] RE: Before evangelizing TM, consider your target audience

2013-10-23 Thread sharelong60
turq, I'm encouraged by these Gallup findings and I'm sure a lot of long term 
TMers would be also. The ones I know are practical, intelligent and 
compassionate. Also I bet a lot of people would love to know about and do 
something for world peace. Maybe whirled peas too (-:  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Just a note of caution to those who still believe that If we charge 
more/less/enough for TM, they will come, *they* in this case being the untold 
millions you think are required to make the world a better place and who are 
out there, just waiting for the right TM marketing approach. Consider who 
you're talking to, and what *they* believe.

The latest Gallup poll doesn't seem to indicate that John Q. American Public is 
quite on the same wavelength that you are. 58% of them probably wouldn't make 
it through the 15 day waiting period. The legalization of marijuana has five 
times the number of supporters as Congress does. 63% are unthreatened by 
homosexual behavior, and 53% believe that same-sex marriage should be 
legalized. The more-puritan-than-the-Puritans lifestyle ethic of many die-hard 
TMers just doesn't map to the way that most Americans see the world. 


http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10
 
http://www.businessinsider.com/gallup-legal-marijuana-is-more-popular-than-almost-anything-else-2013-10
 

Me, I find these Gallup findings positive, and hopeful, because they're 
*pragmatic*, and on the whole they seem to indicate that Americans aren't quite 
the hyper-conservative know-nothings that the Tea Party and others would have 
you believe they are. But such pragmatism is not gonna be appealed to by Woo 
Woo propaganda about how many Yogic Flyers can butt-bounce on the head of a pin 
made of polystyrene foam, and how that's gonna magically create Whirled Peas.

The thing that would make TM marketable again IMO would be a return to the 
more pragmatic approach of the late 60s, in which it was marketed as a simple 
relaxation technique that would help to make you less stressed and more 
productive in your real-world activities. Nobody gives a shit about 
enlightenment; if the Gallup organization polled for that one, my bet is that 
the percentage of people they'd find who believe it exists wouldn't crack two 
digits, and the number who would actually pay money for it would be a fraction 
of that. 

A non-drug technique that takes only 40 minutes per day and could help to lower 
stress levels is marketable. A Woo Woo gateway drug that only seeks to hook 
people on a path to spending several hours of their day bouncing on their butts 
with other people to create Whiled Peas is not. Just sayin'...





RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Places to Live That Suck

2013-10-20 Thread sharelong60
Bhairitu, Thai Deli is owned by a young, very sweet couple from SE Asia. 
Previously it was owned by her father and step mother. But then the older 
couple started another Thai restaurant. And the step mother was an excellent 
cook. A few years ago, the older couple sold to an Indian family and moved away 
so that she could be close to her family. I think they're in Chicago or Des 
Moines. The Indian family has kept some of the Thai recipes and they have also 
gone organic: Green Gourmet. Back to Thai Deli, over the years the young couple 
has done a lot to improve the restaurant ambiance and food. They are a dear 
part of the community. I can think of three Indian restaurants in FF and they 
definitely range in quality. One also has a restaurant in Iowa City and the 
food there is spicier than what they serve in FF. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Especially when we have some VERY GOOD Thai restaurants in the SF Bay Area.  
And I think a lot of Thai restaurants seem to use family recipes so you can 
have a little difference between places.
 
 I found Indian restaurant so-so in Fairfield and I also ate at a California 
style pasta restaurant which indeed reminded me of many of the pasta 
restaurants around here except for the ones run by expatriate Italians.  We 
have one really good Trattoria about 2 miles from here that I like to take 
out-of-town folks to.
 
 On 10/19/2013 10:16 AM, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... wrote:
 
   I decided to check out the FF food scene, using Yelp. This set of reviews is 
hilarious:
 
 
 Thai Deli 
 120 West Broadway
 Fairfield, IA
  
 Review from Mango D., 
 Las Vegas, NV
 9/16/2006
 5.0 star rating
 This stuff is like crack when we come to town. Make sure you come in when it 
is fresh. (After dome is good) We cant get enough of the creamy coconut potato 
dish. And the tofu and squash dish as well. They both go great mixed with the 
fried rice. The noodles are good sparingly when super fresh.
 I cannot find anything like this in California. Sigh... Fairfield, must you 
taunt me so!
  
 Review from Nicholas J.
 San Francisco, CA
 1/12/2010
 1.0 star rating. 
 The reason you'll never find a Thai restaurant like this in California is 
because you can usually find actual Thai people voluntarily living in the 
coastal regions of the country, and very few of them are likely to express an 
interest in consuming the watered-down Grandy's buffet slop this dismal little 
cafeteria tries to pass off as an exotic Asian experience. If I were forced to 
explain their longevity, I would have to say that I believe they remain in 
business primarily because of the cult school up the road--an institution which 
seems to supply them with a steady stream of stoned Dave Matthews fans, all of 
whom would be lucky to successfully locate Thailand on a map after 
hyperventilating through the magic levitation classes their hippie parents pay 
for just because John Lennon told them to in a dream.
  
 Review from Max S.
 Fairfield, IA
 5/24/2009
 2.0 star rating
 It's dirt cheap but man does the food blow.
  
 Review from Will M.
 Seattle, WA
 7/23/2010
 1.0 star rating
 They nickname this place Thai Smelly.  It's small town Midwest buffet meets 
new age crowd.  Absolutely awful food.  It's dirt cheap for a reason.  I mean 
honestly, I don't know how this place survives - I wouldn't eat here if it was 
free.
 
  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Richard first mentioned the food deserts concept on Tuesday. It took you until 
today, Saturday, to decide that Fairfield was a food oasis?
 
 
 It's funny, because even though I don't live in Fairfield, it would have taken 
me about two seconds to figure out it was a food oasis.
 
 
 Share wrote:
 
 
  Richard, I've been thinking about this concept of food deserts since you 
  first
  posted it. I think we have an oasis here in FF! I could definitely walk to 
  our
  local health food store though it would take about 15 to 20 minutes. There is
  another one on campus just outside the women's Dome so that's also a
  possibility. We have a locally owned convenience store/gas station, Logli's
  and Iowa has a chain of them called Kum N Go. Oh and Farmers Market
  twice a week so people can buy fresh, buy local. Yay Fairfield! 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Merit

2013-10-19 Thread sharelong60
Judy, to my horror, it seems that even countless offenses of incorrect spelling 
and grammar are annihilated by meditating! 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  Buck wrote:
 
  “Though thou perform the 

meritorious deed of meditation but once, thee annihilate  forever the 
countless offenses thy hast piled up.”

  -Old Meditation saying.
 

 You aren't going to correct this, are you, Buck?





RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Pope Francis technique

2013-10-18 Thread sharelong60
But again to Judy: Death is the natural result of turning aside from God, says 
Rev Hughes in the last sentence of the 5th paragraph under Approach of the 
Orthodox Fathers. From this I would extrapolate that illness, according to the 
Orthodox Fathers is also a natural result of turning aside from God.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Share wrote:
 
  My questions to emptybill are: what does Cyril of Alexandria
  mean by the sin of one?
 
 


 He means Eve's disobedience.
 


 (I'm sure emptybill will correct me if I get anything wrong.)
 
 
  Also, if all sin is illness, does that mean that the orthodox fathers
  believe that all illness is indicative of sin?
 
 

 Did you read this part?
 

 ...Sickness, suffering and death come and when they do God's grace is able to 
transform them into life-bearing trials, but are they God's will? Does God 
punish us when the mood strikes, when our behavior displeases Him or for no 
reason at all?

 

 The answer in the essay to these rhetorical questions is clearly no.
 

 


 



[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Most Educated Countries in the World

2013-10-17 Thread sharelong60
John, I'm sorry about your parents. I was mainly replying to your saying that 
death is obviously not a pleasant experience. From what I've heard and read, it 
can be quite positive for all concerned even though very sad. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Share,
 

 We should remember that those who are dying in hospices or hospitals are most 
likely given a heavy doze of pain relievers like morphine.  So, death for them 
would appear peaceful and blissful.
 

 Nonetheless, the fact remains that death is a loss of life and of a loved one 
by family members.  For this reason, I stated that it is not a pleasant 
experience.  I witnessed my parents die in the hospital, and for my part the 
experience was definitely not blissful.
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room 
in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or 
blissfully surrounded by friends and family. 
 

 
 
 On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:03 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote:
 
Richard,
 

 A Dominican priest, who heads a hospice center here in the Bay Area, stated 
that 90 percent of us will know when death is near.  So, he's saying that for 
most of us, we can prepare for death.  But he didn't say that euthanasia is the 
answer.
 

 IMO, death is a rite of passage that should be respected in a natural way, and 
not hastened by unnatural means.  It is a transforming experience both for the 
dying person and the family members.  But it obviously is not a pleasant one.
 

 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote:

 CULTURE: “I’m looking for early symptoms of acceptance of euthanasia, which I 
believe will creep in as we Baby Boomers become more and more of a burden.”
 
 'Sympathy for the euthanists'
 Posted by Ann Althouse:
 http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html 
http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html
 
 On 10/16/2013 9:23 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote:
 
   Seraphita,
 
 
 Based on historical records, it's apparent that the family unit is the best 
natural way to maintain or improve the quality of people in a given society. 
There is no doubt that genetics are involved in some individuals who excel in 
science, business or sports.  As such, the natural way of selection is promoted 
to let people enjoy the quality of life that is most beneficial for the entire 
world.
 
 
 IMO, this is the reason why eugenics, as practiced by the Nazi's and some 
people here in the USA, won't work as it would interfere with nature's 
functioning.  Similarly, this is the reason why Osho's experiment of having a 
communal family didn't work.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Re Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in 
order to have a stable population in any country.: 
 That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic 
component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like 
global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant 
data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  Carde,
 
 
 According to Wikipedia, the Jewish population is only about 2 percent of the 
entire US population.  But they do appear to have many successful people in 
this country, including Einstein and Barbara Streisand.  IMO, it shows that the 
Jewish families encourage their children to be successful in whatever field 
they choose to work in.
 
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews
 
 
 
 Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to 
have a stable population in any country.  If the family unit is in disarray, 
guess what would happen to the entire country?
 
 
 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, 
cardemaister@... mailto:cardemaister@... wrote:
 
 I'm afraid without Abraham's descendants US might be way worse off, or stuff.
 
 
 In scientific documentaries from the US of A, usually at least a half of the 
experts interviewed appear to have Jewish family names?? 
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Would you believe Russia is on top of this list?  And, the USA is only on the 
5th place.  But the US has a secret weapon by offering Genius visas to the 
best and brightest from countries around the world. 
 
 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html 
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RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Educated Countries in the World

2013-10-17 Thread sharelong60
Judy, it's true, I trust those death notices I read because I don't see why 
people would lie about how the person passed. Others can trust or not as they 
wish. I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. There 
are many topics and posts on FFL that I ignore. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 What was the point you thought you were making? That famous people are more 
likely to have unpleasant deaths than people who aren't famous? And therefore 
we should trust reports of peaceful deaths of the not-famous?
 

 Makes no sense, Share (not to mention the fact that whatever you were trying 
to say was based on the single example of Castaneda, in which those closest to 
him lied about how he died).
 

 Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING, 
ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author of a 
post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution or not.
 
Share wrote:
 
  Emily I shared with John that death notices here report blissful and or 
  peaceful deaths.
  Turq brought up about Castanedas. I said the notices I've seen have been 
  about unfamous
  people. What do you think I'm talking about?

 





RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Most Educated Countries in the World

2013-10-17 Thread sharelong60
Judy, I was discussing something of interest to me with John and turq. You are 
of course entitled to your opinion about my posting. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  I wrote:
 (snip)
  Again, Share, you have this pathological compulsion to SAY SOMETHING,
  ANYTHING, just to be saying something, just to see your name as the author 
  of a  post, whether it makes sense or not, whether it makes a contribution 
  or not.
 
 

 Just to add: It's as if the only way you know you exist is if you can see your 
words and your name on your computer screen.
 
 
 







RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: College study finds Oreo cookies are as addictive as drugs

2013-10-16 Thread sharelong60
Breaking Bad?! How come? Anyway, I wish there were an online test I could take 
to find out my metabolic type.
 In Chinese system I'm lesser yang. Should be eating pork and shrimp! According 
to nutritional intuitive, I should be eating buffalo burgers! Right now I do 
well on a low glycemic diet: no pasta or rice or bread plus no dairy. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 For some reason this reminds me of Breaking Bad. :-D 
 
 Not nice to fool your body though.  When your body wants a sweet it wants it 
for a reason and using a sugar substitute has been found not to be a good idea. 
 The reason westerners like to have a dessert after a meal is the same reason 
that Indians like to have saunf.  And also tied in with the idea that you 
should wait a half hour before swimming.
 
 TM talks about the autonomic nervous system but not very deeply.  The 
sympathetic system is for activity and parasympathetic for digestion and sleep. 
 Basically meditation is supposed to calm the sympathetic system.  Eating a 
sweet relaxes the digestive tact and helps calm the sympathetic system so the 
parasympathetic can do it's work.  And sometimes when the stomach is busy 
digesting the brain gets short changed for blood sugar and screams!
 
 The problem is trying to be a vegetarian when your body needs you to be a meat 
and potatoes person.  As usual mass nutrition is not a good policy to follow 
and it is as dumb as rocks.  
 
 I use several metabolic concepts along with ayurveda such as Chinese yin and 
yang (simpler than ayurveda) and metabolic typing.  Here's a good overview 
about metabolic typing.  And BTW, it's not the brainchild of Bill Wolcott who 
took over the program from Dr. Kelley.
 http://www.naturalnews.com/029665_metabolic_type_diet.html 
http://www.naturalnews.com/029665_metabolic_type_diet.html
 
 
 On 10/16/2013 09:12 AM, Share Long wrote:
 
   My current indulgence is almond butter with some drops of stevia. Yummy but 
seems to be kind of a sleeping potion!
 
 
 
 
 On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:31 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... j_alexander_stanley@... 
mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:
 
   “Our research supports the theory that high-fat/ high-sugar foods stimulate 
the brain in the same way that drugs do,” Neuroscience Professor Joseph 
Schroeder said in a school press release.
 
 
 For me, the problem isn't the sugar or the fat, but rather the starch, which 
is ultimately just pure glucose. Back in 2003, when I was gorging myself to 
190+ pounds, my favorite snack binge was an entire box of Newman-Os, Paul 
Newman's organic version of Oreos, which I would inhale in a matter of minutes. 
I'd then sleep off the blood sugar crash and have a few dried dates when I woke 
up. It was an endless blood sugar roller coaster. But, I can eat a pint of ice 
cream and be completely satisfied and suffer no blood sugar issues. To crash my 
blood sugar on ice cream, I have to eat a quart or more, and ice cream just 
doesn't have that binge driving effect on me that starchy snack foods do.
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/15/college-study-finds-oreo-cookies-are-as-addictive-as-drugs/
 
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/15/college-study-finds-oreo-cookies-are-as-addictive-as-drugs/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



RE: RE: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis

2013-10-15 Thread sharelong60
Judy, another angle: to the extent that something is self energizing, it will 
be self sustaining. To the extent it is self sustaining, to that extent it will 
continue. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 As I said, that makes no sense in this context. What will eventually end? 
 
Share wrote:
 
  Judy and Ann, I am using the word unsustainable in a very abstract yet 
  applied
  way. Any situation or thing or relationship that takes more energy than it
  generates is IMO unsustainable and will eventually end.
 

 

 Share wrote:
 
  Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes 
  more energy to continue than it generates. 
 
 No, sorry, that makes no sense. The something that we've been talking about 
is areas with high housing costs. And remember, with the term unsustainable, 
you were making a prediction of some sort.
 
 Now, take some time, think it through, and try to choose words that express 
what you mean rather than just grabbing them at random, throwing them together, 
and hoping they make sense.
 
 Also, try to make an observation that adds to the conversation. We all know 
it's more expensive to live on the coasts than in the interior; that isn't 
anything we need to be told.
 
 Just as a reminder, here's what you said to start with:
 
 I think of those high rent districts on the east and west coasts as being 
unsustainable, especially for an aging population. 
 On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote: 
   As a slang term, it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what 
you were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term.
 
 And you ignored my question as to what you meant by unsustainable. Obviously 
the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the 
article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read years 
ago).
 
 So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean byunsustainable in 
specific terms. What do you expect to happen? 
 Share wrote:  Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to 
be taken literally. 
 I wrote:   OK, so it isn't districts, it's cities; and it isn't high 
rent, it's high housing costs in general.   Now that we've clarified that, 
please explain what you mean byunsustainable in specific terms. What do you 
expect to happen?  Share wrote:  I'll do better than that, Judy. Here's a very 
cool website that compares places cost wise. Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD 
where my Mom lives, housing is 255% more expensive there. 
http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 
http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5 On 
Monday, October 14, 2013 6:11 PM, authfriend@... authfriend@... wrote:   
Share wrote: John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly 
inexpensive place like   FF. I think of those high rent districts on the 
east and west coasts as   being unsustainable, especially for an aging 
population. What, pray tell, do you mean by high rent districts? Give us an 
East Coast  example, please. 

 
 

 

 
 
 
 
 



 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 





RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Another Of My Usual

2013-10-13 Thread sharelong60
Richard to Judy on Oct 2:Does every message posted to this discussion group 
have to turn into an argument with you? Are you the new FFL moderator?
 
 Is it alright with you Judy, if I have a one minute conversation with Share - 
just one minute- without you butting in to start another fight. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Barry wrote:
 (snip)
  Ahem. 
  
 Barry has not mentioned or interacted with either
 of these bitches in quite some time, certainly not
 during the last week. Thus this attempt to get 
 him and revive their long-held grudges against him
 is completely gratuitous and out of the blue. 

 

 Hey, doofus, nobody was talking to you. End of story.
 

 





RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Fri 11-Oct-13 00:15:03 UTC

2013-10-11 Thread sharelong60
Seraphita asks a trollish question and then trollishly doesn't reply to a 
reasonable follow up. Go figure!

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Re There are a few posters who appear on the count list more than once . . . 
I replied once from the website because yahoo suddenly became even wackier than 
before!:
 So when there was a weekly post limit anyone could double their allowance by 
posting via email half the time and the rest of the time from the website? 
Curiouser and curiouser . . .
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Seraphita, there are a few posters who appear on the count list more than 
once. All trolls? Anyway, I replied once from the website because yahoo 
suddenly became even wackier than before!

 
 
 On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:27 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote:
 
   How odd! Is sharelong60 a troll then?
 
 53 Richard J. Williams 
 45 Bhairitu  43 Share Long  .
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[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?

2013-10-10 Thread sharelong60
Ann, it's just fun to wonder about the effect of all humans engaging in the 
same activity for 7.5 hours per day. I mean other than breathing in which we 
all engage 24 hours per day. What would happen to our little spaceship Earth if 
we all for example, laughed for 7.5 hours per day? Or sang? Or danced? Or rode 
horses? My bottom line is that it's a huge universe and there's plenty of room 
IMO for people who want to meditate for 7.5 hours per day and also for people 
who want to engage in other activities.
 

 Experimenting with replying in Neo...

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote:

  
 

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote:

 Ann, what would happen if the entire human population did the same activity 
all day long?! 
 

 You didn't respond to any of my questions except with a question that doesn't 
relate to our conversation! Do you not think my questions irrelevant 
(correction, I meant relevant) or you just don't have ready answers? Do you 
need more time to think about them or are they silly questions? As to your 
question: it doesn't relate to anything I said/asked but the answer to that 
would be it would depend on what activity they were all doing simultaneously. 
The effects of everyone singing at one time would be quite different from 
everyone shooting someone at the same time.
 

 
 
 On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:58 PM, awoelflebater@... 
awoelflebater@... wrote:
 

 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Hey 
Share, if a person is established in silence all the time, they no longer need 
to round seven and a half hours a day. It continues 24/7. So, there is not 
really a correlation between time explicitly spent meditating, and a person's 
ability to be a source of calm, vs a generator of noise.
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: 
Ann, there were 2 posts and in one you focused on rounding spouses. As a 
response to the other, I refer you to this comment from Seraphita: We 
understand what you're saying but it is a common belief in all contemplative 
traditions that communities joined together practising silent prayer (eg, monks 
and nuns) have a beneficial effect on the world even though to practical, 
common-sense types they seem to be a waste of space. Indeed, even the very 
recollection that there are men and women who forsake the feverish ambitions of 
the mass of people induces a feeling of calm!
 
 So in what way do you see those that round 7.5 hours a day as spiritual 
warriors. What is a spiritual warrior? In what way are those who sit with 
their eyes closed for so many hours per day living full lives? Is the person 
who jumps head first into life and activity any less warrior-like than those 
who sit in a room and meditate? Is the person who sits alone and inert living a 
full life as a human with a physical body? What would happen if the entire 
population sat for 7.5 hours per day with their eyes closed doing nothing?
 
 
 On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:28 AM, awoelflebater@... 
awoelflebater@... wrote: 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: 
Now this comment from Judy is a perfect example of snarky IMO. Ann had 
criticized that people rounding for 7 1/2 hours were thus separated from their 
spouses. I responded reasonably noting that spouses who work away from home are 
also separated for 7 1/2 hours or so.
 
 My point, though, was not so much about spouses but more about the fact that 
people who meditate for 7.5 hours a day are not, in my opinion, spiritual 
warriors and that they obviously have absolutely nothing more desirable or 
pressing in their lives to apply themselves to. I would have to question their 
interestingness as human beings let alone their productiveness and ability to 
take advantage of all of the richness this waking life has to offer. 
 On Wed, 10/9/13, judy stein 
authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Subject: RE: Re: Re: 
[FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM? To: 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: 
Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 8:37 AM   Share wrote:  Ann, I think many spouses 
who work  outside the home are separated from each other from most of  the 
day. When you find out for sure, let us know, OK? This is an important insight. 

 
 

 

 
 
 
 
 




 
 
 

 
 



 
 
 
 


 

 




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