Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators
your science is presented each day in the behavior of Bevan et al whom you find so offensive - their behavior is a product of religiously practicing Marshy's techniques - if repeated transcendence leads to enlightenment, where did it go wrong in every leader, manager and even low level functionary of the Movement? You can't have it both ways - either TMSP and all the money making secondary programs work or they don't - they work all right, as evidenced by the draconian measures the Movement creates to protect is monetary interests. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators Yep, The Pernicious Anti-science of Anti-TM resistance, as counter-revolutionaries like MJ and their ex-TM like as per like Mao's assessment on wrong-headedness or wrong thinking I don't see the organized resistance against TM as being entirely bad but that they just need to change their thinking around TM... need to look at the science on meditation more, get their meditation checked and refreshed, and certainly get some further experience in effective practice some more. Then they'd know what they are doing. Headlines in the news: Michael Jackson made some bad choices http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24280890 ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Seems some good old advice that evidently bears out now roughly transliterated from the Chairman's in to TM going forward: “Our meditating movement must of necessity use the democratic method of persuasion and education when working among meditators and the non-meditators and must on no account resort to commandism or coercion. Our administrators, teachers and meditator comrades must understand that spiritual remoulding involves long-term, patient and painstaking work, and they must not attempt to change people's ideology, by giving a few lectures or by holding a few meetings. Persuasion, not compulsion, is the only way to convince them. Compulsion will never result in convincing them. [Like, the old guard's anti-saint policy and administrative guideline held over meditators and teachers?] To try to convince them by force simply won't work. This kind of method is permissible in dealing with the enemy, but absolutely impermissible in dealing with meditators and friends.” ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Rough chinese transliteration in to TM: “A proper measure of democracy should be put into effect in the meditating movement, chiefly by abolishing the feudal practice of bullying and beating we have now and by having administrators and meditators share weal and woe. Once this is done, unity will be achieved between administrators and meditators and the teaching effectiveness of the meditating movement will be greatly increased, and there will be no doubt of our ability to sustain the long-going and sustained spiritual work of the Unified Field in the world.” They [TM] are in the midst of revolution and they have a lot of resource yet with people who see eye to eye on this. But like the chinese in their cultural revolution and modernizing it becomes more orderly and based more on meritocracy after the party tru-believers and corruption gets pressed out of it in time. It ain't over yet by a long shot. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In time I feel we'll also come to see Nader Ram emerge as the Satguru he was prepared to become by Maharishi. Right as yet he is still in a removed administrator Maha-raja protected role. But his mystery of being with Maharishi will shortly unfold more. His Guru-hood sanctified is coming as people will get to be more directly with him. That is happening and that will happen more in time. TM is not over by a long shot. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, the whole TM movement has already moved over towards Hagelin with Lynch and the people gathered around them for as long as they live and succession is in fact actively being planned for. A friend who is an aid to Hagelin recently drew a flow chart for me and filled it out and it is extremely realistic. They are on the move. They are in the midst of revolution and they have a lot of resource yet with people who see eye to eye on this. But like the chinese in their cultural revolution and modernizing it becomes more orderly and based more on meritocracy after the party tru-believers and corruption gets pressed out of it in time. It ain't over yet by a long shot. The fifth estate and the internet certainly has a large role in helping shape how it is going with transparency. Even MJ here as a counter-revolutionary ex-TM'er has a role to play in helping it live long and prosper. There can't be mistakes in the truth
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ha ha ha ha ha! You are living in a dream world - they are using fancy ass marketing techniques to try to bolster up a dying movement - and my only role were I to focus on it would be to see the Movement reduced to ashes. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:04 PM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators Yes, the whole TM movement has already moved over towards Hagelin with Lynch and the people gathered around them for as long as they live and succession is in fact actively being planned for. A friend who is an aid to Hagelin recently drew a flow chart for me and filled it out and it is extremely realistic. They are on the move. They are in the midst of revolution and they have a lot of resource yet with people who see eye to eye on this. But like the chinese in their cultural revolution and modernizing it becomes more orderly and based more on meritocracy after the party tru-believers and corruption gets pressed out of it in time. It ain't over yet by a long shot. The fifth estate and the internet certainly has a large role in helping shape how it is going with transparency. Even MJ here as a counter-revolutionary ex-TM'er has a role to play in helping it live long and prosper. There can't be mistakes in the truth! -Old Pravada Proverb ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: TM also through time? Well, The TM movement recently since the death of the founder is now being run more and more by committees, boards and department on merit. No one person is going to matter much as Bevan and some others pass away. The teaching of effective transcending meditation will carry it given the modern science-based public health and spiritual public policy imperatives that come with it.A new generation around meditating and consciousness based education that grew up with this is coming online and they are saying it is not going to be like it was as to integrity. Bevan and other elders are going to either let the microphone pass to them sooner or later. But the offspring are being groomed now teaching meditation and gaining their own experience to run it doing it on merit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Not likely - when the revenues get low enough, Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys will sell MUM and all its assets, so the signs will come down anyway in a few years. From: s3raphita@... s3raphita@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators I wonder if in 100 years time we'll see internet posts saying: . . . about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Maharishi and that mystic's influence? Today, on a short road trip through Iowa, I encountered a cemetery and abandoned Dome complex with a rusty sign saying Maharishi University of Management . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Another group: The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian “ ..about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Swedenborg and that mystic's influence on the UGRR [underground railroad] Today, on a short road trip through Iowa and Johnson county, I encountered a cemetery and church complex in rural Iowa county called The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian . This group called themselves the Jasper Colony . All very German, and all communalists, who followed the mystic Swedenborg. As part of the group think, abolitionism was a part of their belief system. It fell apart after a few years, but was closely followed by the Amana folks who settled just to the south of these first cooperative communalists. Apparently they have a reunion every August at the church building, something we just missed! Darn! I certainly would like to ask if they did help any run away slaves get to Canada and freedom!” Southeast Iowa and the UGRR: http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators
So, who says 'Girish and his cousins' own the MUM campus and all it's assets? From what I've read, most of everything that was founded by MMY belongs to the SRM Foundation USA and it's Board of Directors. Apparently Girish is not involved in any way with MUM or it's managing it's assets. However, the Indian tradition of reciting Vedic prayers is very old, dating from at least 1500 BCE, so it wouldn't surprise me if it caught on here and persisted for a long time. Yoga has been popular in the U.S. since the 1940's and more so today. Take a look at the magazine covers at Barnes Noble if you get a chance. LoL! On 9/25/2013 4:50 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Not likely - when the revenues get low enough, Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys will sell MUM and all its assets, so the signs will come down anyway in a few years. *From:* s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:16 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators I wonder if in 100 years time we'll see internet posts saying: * . . . about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Maharishi and that mystic's influence? Today, on a short road trip through Iowa, I encountered a cemetery and abandoned Dome complex with a rusty sign saying MaharishiUniversity of Management . . .* ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: *Another group:* *The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian * * * “ *..about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Swedenborg and that mystic's influence on the UGRR [underground railroad] Today, on a short road trip through Iowa and Johnson county, I encountered a cemetery and church complex in rural Iowa county called The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian . This group called themselves the Jasper Colony . All very German, and all communalists, who followed the mystic Swedenborg. As part of the group think, abolitionism was a part of their belief system. It fell apart after a few years, but was closely followed by the Amana folks who settled just to the south of these first cooperative communalists. Apparently they have a reunion every August at the church building, something we just missed! Darn! I certainly would like to ask if they did help any run away slaves get to Canada and freedom!” *** * * *Southeast Iowa and the UGRR:* *http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html *
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators
Compared to the radical Islam terrorist sect, al Shabab, the poor Hindu pundit boys up in Iowa seem to be more like angels, than a destructive cult. Smashed to ashes? I guess the pundit boys have as much right to meditate as the Muslims have the right to pray. Are you suggesting that we pass religious laws in the U.S. or smash them to ashes? Whose side are you on, anyway? And, what's your point? Send in the mind police to stop the student and the pandit boys to stop them from meditating? Go figure. On 9/26/2013 7:44 AM, Michael Jackson wrote: ha ha ha ha ha! You are living in a dream world - they are using fancy ass marketing techniques to try to bolster up a dying movement - and my only role were I to focus on it would be to see the Movement reduced to ashes. *From:* dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:04 PM *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators *Yes, the whole TM movement has already moved over towards Hagelin with Lynch and the people gathered around them for as long as they live and succession is in fact actively being planned for. A friend who is an aid to Hagelin recently drew a flow chart for me and filled it out and it is extremely realistic. They are on the move. They are in the midst of revolution and they have a lot of resource yet with people who see eye to eye on this. But like the chinese in their cultural revolution and modernizing it becomes more orderly and based more on meritocracy after the party tru-believers and corruption gets pressed out of it in time. It ain't over yet by a long shot. The fifth estate and the internet certainly has a large role in helping shape how it is going with transparency. Even MJ here as a counter-revolutionary ex-TM'er has a role to play in helping it live long and prosper.* *There can't be mistakes in the truth!* *-Old Pravada Proverb * ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: *TM also through time?* *Well, The TM movement recently since the death of the founder is now being run more and more by committees, boards and department on merit. No one person is going to matter much as Bevan and some others pass away. The teaching of effective transcending meditation will carry it given the modern science-based public health and spiritual public policy imperatives that come with it. A new generation around meditating and consciousness based education that grew up with this is coming online and they are saying it is not going to be like it was as to integrity. Bevan and other elders are going to either let the microphone pass to them sooner or later. But the offspring are being groomed now teaching meditation and gaining their own experience to run it doing it on merit.* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Not likely - when the revenues get low enough, Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys will sell MUM and all its assets, so the signs will come down anyway in a few years. *From:* s3raphita@... s3raphita@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:16 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators I wonder if in 100 years time we'll see internet posts saying: * . . . about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Maharishi and that mystic's influence? Today, on a short road trip through Iowa, I encountered a cemetery and abandoned Dome complex with a rusty sign saying MaharishiUniversity of Management . . .* ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: *Another group:* *The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian * * * “ *..about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Swedenborg and that mystic's influence on the UGRR [underground railroad] Today, on a short road trip through Iowa and Johnson county, I encountered a cemetery and church complex in rural Iowa county called The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian . This group called themselves the Jasper Colony . All very German, and all communalists, who followed the mystic Swedenborg. As part of the group think, abolitionism was a part of their belief system. It fell apart after a few years, but was closely followed by the Amana folks who settled just to the south of these first cooperative communalists. Apparently they have a reunion every August at the church building, something we just missed! Darn! I certainly would like to ask if they did help any run away slaves get to Canada and freedom!” *** * * *Southeast Iowa and the UGRR:* *http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html *
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators
at one time there was info easily available that showed MUM and its campus was owned by the Marshy Group - most of that info, even info about the marshy group has since disappeared from the internet From: Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com To: Richard J. Williams FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators So, who says 'Girish and his cousins' own the MUM campus and all it's assets? From what I've read, most of everything that was founded by MMY belongs to the SRM Foundation USA and it's Board of Directors. Apparently Girish is not involved in any way with MUM or it's managing it's assets. However, the Indian tradition of reciting Vedic prayers is very old, dating from at least 1500 BCE, so it wouldn't surprise me if it caught on here and persisted for a long time. Yoga has been popular in the U.S. since the 1940's and more so today. Take a look at the magazine covers at Barnes Noble if you get a chance. LoL! On 9/25/2013 4:50 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: Not likely - when the revenues get low enough, Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys will sell MUM and all its assets, so the signs will come down anyway in a few years. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators I wonder if in 100 years time we'll see internet posts saying: . . . about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Maharishi and that mystic's influence? Today, on a short road trip through Iowa, I encountered a cemetery and abandoned Dome complex with a rusty sign saying Maharishi University of Management . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Another group: The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian “ ..about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Swedenborg and that mystic's influence on the UGRR [underground railroad] Today, on a short road trip through Iowa and Johnson county, I encountered a cemetery and church complex in rural Iowa county called The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian . This group called themselves the Jasper Colony . All very German, and all communalists, who followed the mystic Swedenborg. As part of the group think, abolitionism was a part of their belief system. It fell apart after a few years, but was closely followed by the Amana folks who settled just to the south of these first cooperative communalists. Apparently they have a reunion every August at the church building, something we just missed! Darn! I certainly would like to ask if they did help any run away slaves get to Canada and freedom!” Southeast Iowa and the UGRR: http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html
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Not likely - when the revenues get low enough, Girish and his cousins the Srivastavas boys will sell MUM and all its assets, so the signs will come down anyway in a few years. From: s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Early Iowa Unified Field Meditators I wonder if in 100 years time we'll see internet posts saying: . . . about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Maharishi and that mystic's influence? Today, on a short road trip through Iowa, I encountered a cemetery and abandoned Dome complex with a rusty sign saying Maharishi University of Management . . . ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Another group: The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian “ ..about your interest in the transcendental stuff, so now I have to ask you, do you have an interest in Swedenborg and that mystic's influence on the UGRR [underground railroad] Today, on a short road trip through Iowa and Johnson county, I encountered a cemetery and church complex in rural Iowa county called The New Jerusalem Society Swedenborgian . This group called themselves the Jasper Colony . All very German, and all communalists, who followed the mystic Swedenborg. As part of the group think, abolitionism was a part of their belief system. It fell apart after a few years, but was closely followed by the Amana folks who settled just to the south of these first cooperative communalists. Apparently they have a reunion every August at the church building, something we just missed! Darn! I certainly would like to ask if they did help any run away slaves get to Canada and freedom!” Southeast Iowa and the UGRR: http://www.icelandichorse.info/salemfugitiveslaves.html
