On 12/31/2013 10:30 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote:
Yes, but the Christian theologians were indebted to the Neoplatonists,
especially the divine Plotinus and Iamblichus.
Not sure what this has to do with MMY's Adwaita. There's no trinity in
Adwaita. Go figure.
On 1/1/2014 12:16 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
The doctrine of the Trinity was decided by decree
not by philosophic analysis.
It looks like maybe you lost your train of thought. What wouldit take to
get you to say on topic?
Traditional Advaita, as taught by the Adi Shankaracharya, has
Sure enough - this is beyond your understanding. However, you shouldn't
interrupt our conversation because it is exceeds you.
Not everything here on FFL is about you.
On 1/2/2014 9:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
Sure enough - this is beyond your understanding. However, you
shouldn't interrupt our conversation because it is exceeds you.
What would it take to keep you on topic? There's no trinity theology
in Advaita.
Not everything here on FFL is
Re Why is it so difficult for you to understand the one, before you go off
speculating on the three? :
Because there has to be duality before a subject (you, for example) can
speculate about an object. The One has to divide for that to happen; and so
the One + the subject + the object = three
The Seraph sez:
Yes, but the Christian theologians were indebted to the Neoplatonists,
especially the divine Plotinus and Iamblichus.
Emptybill sez:
The doctrine of the Trinity was decided by decree not by philosophic analysis.
The Platonists (nothing neo about them) set the stage
Re When you add in Iamblicus’s idea that humans were so fallen they couldn’t
return to the gods by theoria (thus needing theurgic erôs/philia:
Presumably that was based on his own experience and observation of his fellow
Platonists' struggles. Not so different to Indian ideas about the kali
Yes, it was coming across excerpts in anthologies of Stephen MacKenna's
acclaimed translation of the Enneads that intrigued me. Yep, me too. I like the
MacKenna version because it is readable. However, I actually use the
translation by A.H. Armstrong of the complete Enneads in 7 volumes in the
Re The Trinity is a theological formulation in Christianity ... not a
philosophical idea. :
Yes, but the Christian theologians were indebted to the Neoplatonists,
especially the divine Plotinus and Iamblichus.
The One is at the top of the hierarchy. The first emanation is Nous (Divine
A word to the wise: If you're trying to rebut the Christian idea of the Holy
Trinity, it would be good to study up on it first so you don't find yourself
setting up straw men to knock down.
First came One. It's a leap of metaphysical theorizing to imagine that
there is more than One real.
That is an excellent recommendation.
The Trinity is a theological formulation in Christianity ... not a
philosophical idea. It is also defined differently between Latin based
traditions (Catholic and Protestant) and Greek based traditions (Eastern
Orthodox).
Speculating about the
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