Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Ann, are you a former reader of Marvel Comics by any chance? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Keep posting away Share. I, for one, enjoy your input. I can't understand why you get so much negative and vulgar feedback from other FFLifers. If someone disagrees with you by all means let him point out your errors, but the vitriol seems overdone. You'll figure it out sooner rather than later, especially if you are female as I suspect you are. And you're smart so it won't take long. It may seem strange and unwarranted but you'd have to do some research over the last year to really 'get' it. 'Nuff said. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, basically you're saying that you don't enjoy my posts and therefore I should stop posting so much! It's lunacy! If I were standing there with a gun to your head, yes, you'd have a point. Otherwise I don't see how you are being subjected to, forced, dominated by anyone to do wading or anything else with regards to the FFL posts. I just don't get it. Also I don't know who the 5th person is! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Followup. Since I made this post, the same 5 people whom I characterized as having nothing interesting to say and as being so out of control that they flood the forum with their garbage have followed up on my *single* post with a total of *fifteen* posts. In not one of them did any of them offer to cut down on their inane post-flooding. In fact, they attempted to shoot the messenger and avoid any responsibility for their own actions. I'd say that they made my point about trying to dominate the forum for me. The bottom line on this is clear -- these five posters contributed only slightly less that HALF THE TOTAL POSTS MADE LAST WEEK. And they'll do it again this week, and the next, and the week after that. And they don't think there's a problem with that, or with forcing other people to wade through their crap. I'm simply making the point that the phenomenon of people leaving FFL is **NOT** due to Neo, but to a few people who simply cannot control their motormouths, and who feel they have the right to subject other people to post after post after post after post after post...whatever they want to post, whenever they want to post it. I'll stop talking about this now, because unlike them *I* can control myself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: And lastly, as long as one is free to scroll past potentially offensive posts, how can domination occur in any significant way? Turq's Monday Morning Free Clue To The Clueless You think free to. Others here think have to. It's a matter of signal-to-noise ratios. Taking last Friday's Post Count as an example, there are more than a few on the forum who would categorize 421 of the total 852 posts (49.4%) as noise. That is, long experience has taught these people that there is nothing to be gained from reading any of these posts. Fortunately, as you say, we are free to disregard them by scrolling past them. But this means that in any given week we have to scroll past easily half of all posts on the forum. There comes a time when the desire for the occasional gem of intelligence (signal) simply isn't worth it any more because of the sheer bulk of the other posts (noise). Especially because the noise-posters don't seem to be able (or willing) to control themselves. When it's not invective and trolling, it's inanity such as was described so well by s3raphita earlier: And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . Bottom line is that you're going to start seeing a LOT of people bailing from FFL. And it WON'T be because of Neo. That, dear lady, is domination.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Oh wow, have a look at this. What is the image that comes to mind? Someone emerging from the shadows, shaking a bony finger, BEWARE, BEWARE, this woman is DANGEROUS. DANGEROUS I say. Glad to see that Ann is treating you like a real adult here s3rapitha. Evidently Ann believes Share is capable of casting a spell on people, and so must be appropriately warned. What a head shaker. My advice, Do what thou wilt, is the whole of the law From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com You'll figure it out sooner rather than later, especially if you are female as I suspect you are. And you're smart so it won't take long. It may seem strange and unwarranted but you'd have to do some research over the last year to really 'get' it. 'Nuff said. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, basically you're saying that you don't enjoy my posts and therefore I should stop posting so much! It's lunacy! If I were standing there with a gun to your head, yes, you'd have a point. Otherwise I don't see how you are being subjected to, forced, dominated by anyone to do wading or anything else with regards to the FFL posts. I just don't get it. Also I don't know who the 5th person is! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Followup. Since I made this post, the same 5 people whom I characterized as having nothing interesting to say and as being so out of control that they flood the forum with their garbage have followed up on my *single* post with a total of *fifteen* posts. In not one of them did any of them offer to cut down on their inane post-flooding. In fact, they attempted to shoot the messenger and avoid any responsibility for their own actions. I'd say that they made my point about trying to dominate the forum for me. The bottom line on this is clear -- these five posters contributed only slightly less that HALF THE TOTAL POSTS MADE LAST WEEK. And they'll do it again this week, and the next, and the week after that. And they don't think there's a problem with that, or with forcing other people to wade through their crap. I'm simply making the point that the phenomenon of people leaving FFL is **NOT** due to Neo, but to a few people who simply cannot control their motormouths, and who feel they have the right to subject other people to post after post after post after post after post...whatever they want to post, whenever they want to post it. I'll stop talking about this now, because unlike them *I* can control myself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: And lastly, as long as one is free to scroll past potentially offensive posts, how can domination occur in any significant way? Turq's Monday Morning Free Clue To The Clueless You think free to. Others here think have to. It's a matter of signal-to-noise ratios. Taking last Friday's Post Count as an example, there are more than a few on the forum who would categorize 421 of the total 852 posts (49.4%) as noise. That is, long experience has taught these people that there is nothing to be gained from reading any of these posts. Fortunately, as you say, we are free to disregard them by scrolling past them. But this means that in any given week we have to scroll past easily half of all posts on the forum. There comes a time when the desire for the occasional gem of intelligence (signal) simply isn't worth it any more because of the sheer bulk of the other posts (noise). Especially because the noise-posters don't seem to be able (or willing) to control themselves. When it's not invective and trolling, it's inanity such as was described so well by s3raphita earlier: And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . Bottom line is that you're going to start seeing a LOT of people bailing from FFL. And it WON'T be because of Neo. That, dear lady, is domination.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
that's good MJ. I wonder who she fashions herself after? EQUISTRIAN LADY Possesses more horse sense that anyone in the universe!! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Ann, are you a former reader of Marvel Comics by any chance? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Keep posting away Share. I, for one, enjoy your input. I can't understand why you get so much negative and vulgar feedback from other FFLifers. If someone disagrees with you by all means let him point out your errors, but the vitriol seems overdone. You'll figure it out sooner rather than later, especially if you are female as I suspect you are. And you're smart so it won't take long. It may seem strange and unwarranted but you'd have to do some research over the last year to really 'get' it. 'Nuff said. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, basically you're saying that you don't enjoy my posts and therefore I should stop posting so much! It's lunacy! If I were standing there with a gun to your head, yes, you'd have a point. Otherwise I don't see how you are being subjected to, forced, dominated by anyone to do wading or anything else with regards to the FFL posts. I just don't get it. Also I don't know who the 5th person is! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Followup. Since I made this post, the same 5 people whom I characterized as having nothing interesting to say and as being so out of control that they flood the forum with their garbage have followed up on my *single* post with a total of *fifteen* posts. In not one of them did any of them offer to cut down on their inane post-flooding. In fact, they attempted to shoot the messenger and avoid any responsibility for their own actions. I'd say that they made my point about trying to dominate the forum for me. The bottom line on this is clear -- these five posters contributed only slightly less that HALF THE TOTAL POSTS MADE LAST WEEK. And they'll do it again this week, and the next, and the week after that. And they don't think there's a problem with that, or with forcing other people to wade through their crap. I'm simply making the point that the phenomenon of people leaving FFL is **NOT** due to Neo, but to a few people who simply cannot control their motormouths, and who feel they have the right to subject other people to post after post after post after post after post...whatever they want to post, whenever they want to post it. I'll stop talking about this now, because unlike them *I* can control myself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: And lastly, as long as one is free to scroll past potentially offensive posts, how can domination occur in any significant way? Turq's Monday Morning Free Clue To The Clueless You think free to. Others here think have to. It's a matter of signal-to-noise ratios. Taking last Friday's Post Count as an example, there are more than a few on the forum who would categorize 421 of the total 852 posts (49.4%) as noise. That is, long experience has taught these people that there is nothing to be gained from reading any of these posts. Fortunately, as you say, we are free to disregard them by scrolling past them. But this means that in any given week we have to scroll past easily half of all posts on the forum. There comes a time when the desire for the occasional gem of intelligence (signal) simply isn't worth it any more because of the sheer bulk of the other posts (noise). Especially because the noise-posters don't seem to be able (or willing) to control themselves. When it's not invective and trolling, it's inanity such as was described so well by s3raphita earlier: And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . Bottom line is that you're going to start seeing a LOT of people bailing from FFL. And it WON'T be because of Neo. That, dear lady, is domination.
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Steve Sundur wrote: Oh wow, have a look at this. What is the image that comes to mind? Someone emerging from the shadows, shaking a bony finger, BEWARE, BEWARE, this woman is DANGEROUS. DANGEROUS I say. Glad to see that Ann is treating you like a real adult here s3rapitha. Evidently Ann believes Share is capable of casting a spell on people, and so they must be appropriately warned. What a head shaker. Hell hath no fury like a Mean Girl Clique towards an apostate member. :-) http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/standard/english/macbeth/images/witches1_5\ 46x307.gif http://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/standard/english/macbeth/images/witches1_\ 546x307.gif
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
well, I read 'Nuff said a million times in all of Stan Lee's comments in any number of Marvel Comics so I just thought I'd ask. From: Steve Sundur steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC that's good MJ. I wonder who she fashions herself after? EQUISTRIAN LADY Possesses more horse sense that anyone in the universe!! From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Ann, are you a former reader of Marvel Comics by any chance? From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Keep posting away Share. I, for one, enjoy your input. I can't understand why you get so much negative and vulgar feedback from other FFLifers. If someone disagrees with you by all means let him point out your errors, but the vitriol seems overdone. You'll figure it out sooner rather than later, especially if you are female as I suspect you are. And you're smart so it won't take long. It may seem strange and unwarranted but you'd have to do some research over the last year to really 'get' it. 'Nuff said. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, basically you're saying that you don't enjoy my posts and therefore I should stop posting so much! It's lunacy! If I were standing there with a gun to your head, yes, you'd have a point. Otherwise I don't see how you are being subjected to, forced, dominated by anyone to do wading or anything else with regards to the FFL posts. I just don't get it. Also I don't know who the 5th person is! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Followup. Since I made this post, the same 5 people whom I characterized as having nothing interesting to say and as being so out of control that they flood the forum with their garbage have followed up on my *single* post with a total of *fifteen* posts. In not one of them did any of them offer to cut down on their inane post-flooding. In fact, they attempted to shoot the messenger and avoid any responsibility for their own actions. I'd say that they made my point about trying to dominate the forum for me. The bottom line on this is clear -- these five posters contributed only slightly less that HALF THE TOTAL POSTS MADE LAST WEEK. And they'll do it again this week, and the next, and the week after that. And they don't think there's a problem with that, or with forcing other people to wade through their crap. I'm simply making the point that the phenomenon of people leaving FFL is **NOT** due to Neo, but to a few people who simply cannot control their motormouths, and who feel they have the right to subject other people to post after post after post after post after post...whatever they want to post, whenever they want to post it. I'll stop talking about this now, because unlike them *I* can control myself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: And lastly, as long as one is free to scroll past potentially offensive posts, how can domination occur in any significant way? Turq's Monday Morning Free Clue To The Clueless You think free to. Others here think have to. It's a matter of signal-to-noise ratios. Taking last Friday's Post Count as an example, there are more than a few on the forum who would categorize 421 of the total 852 posts (49.4%) as noise. That is, long experience has taught these people that there is nothing to be gained from reading any of these posts. Fortunately, as you say, we are free to disregard them by scrolling past them. But this means that in any given week we have to scroll past easily half of all posts on the forum. There comes a time when the desire for the occasional gem of intelligence (signal) simply isn't worth it any more because of the sheer bulk of the other posts (noise). Especially because the noise-posters don't seem to be able (or willing) to control themselves. When it's not invective and trolling, it's inanity such as was described so well by s3raphita earlier: And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link Did you forget to take
Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
I guess spell check doesn't work on all caps. D'oh! From: awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:04 AM Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: that's good MJ. I wonder who she fashions herself after? EQUISTRIAN LADY Possesses more horse sense that anyone in the universe!! It's spelled E-Q-U-E-S-T-R-I-A-N silly Steve. And where did I say Share casts spells on anyone? She is simply got a tad more anger and more personal issues than immediately hit the naked eye as many of us have discovered. Share, although seeming so benign and friendly harbours as much venom in there as (gasp) Barry. It is interesting that it is primarily the women who recognize this first. You're still bringin' up the rear, so to speak, on this one so I don't expect you to agree. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Ann, are you a former reader of Marvel Comics by any chance? From: awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 12:07 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Keep posting away Share. I, for one, enjoy your input. I can't understand why you get so much negative and vulgar feedback from other FFLifers. If someone disagrees with you by all means let him point out your errors, but the vitriol seems overdone. You'll figure it out sooner rather than later, especially if you are female as I suspect you are. And you're smart so it won't take long. It may seem strange and unwarranted but you'd have to do some research over the last year to really 'get' it. 'Nuff said. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: turq, basically you're saying that you don't enjoy my posts and therefore I should stop posting so much! It's lunacy! If I were standing there with a gun to your head, yes, you'd have a point. Otherwise I don't see how you are being subjected to, forced, dominated by anyone to do wading or anything else with regards to the FFL posts. I just don't get it. Also I don't know who the 5th person is! From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Followup. Since I made this post, the same 5 people whom I characterized as having nothing interesting to say and as being so out of control that they flood the forum with their garbage have followed up on my *single* post with a total of *fifteen* posts. In not one of them did any of them offer to cut down on their inane post-flooding. In fact, they attempted to shoot the messenger and avoid any responsibility for their own actions. I'd say that they made my point about trying to dominate the forum for me. The bottom line on this is clear -- these five posters contributed only slightly less that HALF THE TOTAL POSTS MADE LAST WEEK. And they'll do it again this week, and the next, and the week after that. And they don't think there's a problem with that, or with forcing other people to wade through their crap. I'm simply making the point that the phenomenon of people leaving FFL is **NOT** due to Neo, but to a few people who simply cannot control their motormouths, and who feel they have the right to subject other people to post after post after post after post after post...whatever they want to post, whenever they want to post it. I'll stop talking about this now, because unlike them *I* can control myself. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: And lastly, as long as one is free to scroll past potentially offensive posts, how can domination occur in any significant way? Turq's Monday Morning Free Clue To The Clueless You think free to. Others here think have to. It's a matter of signal-to-noise ratios. Taking last Friday's Post Count as an example, there are more than a few on the forum who would categorize 421 of the total 852 posts (49.4%) as noise. That is, long experience has taught these people that there is nothing to be gained from reading any of these posts. Fortunately, as you say, we are free to disregard them by scrolling past them. But this means that in any given week we have to scroll past easily half of all posts on the forum. There comes a time when the desire for the occasional gem of intelligence (signal) simply isn't worth
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: No, I doubt if Yahoo will return to the old interface. They've put too much work into Neo... I agree. Seeing corporate software from the inside as I tend to do these days, there are careers on the line with Neo. It may *be* a piece of shit, but it's *their* piece of shit, and they won't let it die. ...which is obviously aimed at being compatible with the growing mobile market. The old classic interface was poor for mobile devices. True that. I've seen and played with Neo on my iPhone, and it's much better on that format, which is pretty much *the* driving platform in software today. If it don't run on a mobile, it ain't happenin'. This trend may, in the long term, be bad for those of us who still have a habitual and emotional commitment to keyboards and monitors, in the form of laptops. My beloved Acer is gettin' old, and I'm looking at replacements. The new tiny Acer, lighter than but more powerful than the Mac Airbook, might be a possible contender, but no tablet is. Don't get me wrong...I'd *love* to have one to play with, but as a working (or given my lifestyle writing in cafes, playing) computer, it just don't cut it. I need a laptop. But I'm sure they'll take into any modifications that can be reasonably made to accommodate those who preferred the classic interface. (But don't count on it). The one thing I predict you *won't* see is making the interspersed comments in replies easier to create and see. That's really a carryover from the old Usenet and its method of quoting, and has ceased to be relevant on more modern interfaces. They tend to use graphical bars to indicate quoted material, not signs. And the overall thinking IMO is geared towards top posting. That's fallout from 1) mobiles, 2) a generation that just doesn't write long replies any more because they've been brainwashed by Twitter, 3) ease of implementation and (on mobiles in particular) ease of use, and 4) familiarity on the part of a new generation of users -- less of a learning curve. Top posting is here to stay, and lack of support for interspersed replies is pushin' up daisies. That's something that -- even though I'm often a fan of it myself and in fact am using it in this reply -- IMO is an anachronism left over from the Usenet days. We were just discovering online chats and discussions back then, and a lot of us were long-winded. And there were a lot of com- pulsive nitpickers (myself among them) who felt the need to reply to a post quote by quote, to agree or refute with it as if their agreement or disagreement were really important. :-) These days people -- and even in business emails -- do NOT reply point by point. Instead they fold their entire response into a summary, and put it at the top of the post. An assumption is made that the person being replied to remembers what the original post was about. Another assumption is that the person who said what you're replying to is adult enough not to need it parroted back to them and replied to point by point, as if the words had dripped from the lips of god herself. Also that no one in the conversation is paranoid about being misquoted or taken out of context. :-) As has been pointed out here, the worst aspect of Neo *is* in terms of its Reply interface. Quotes should be clearly identified as to who posted them, by *handle*, not by registered email id, or fairfieldlife@ I've still been spared having to use it, and am not looking forward to doing so, but I agree it's here to stay. Those of us tech Luddites who lament the passing of the classic interface are pissing into the wind; no attention will be paid to us because we are the past, and Yahoo is aiming at the future.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Neo on two Android browsers on a 4.5 phone screen: Firefox: works but Firefox tends to get the line width wrong in portrait mode. It's OK in landscape but most group users would probably prefer reading the group in portrait. Chrome: gets the line width right in portrait mode but just seems lock up. I don't think it likes the continual refresh as you scroll down. The third browser is the Android one which I have set to my login and I get the classic version of FFL. :-D On 09/29/2013 03:36 AM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: No, I doubt if Yahoo will return to the old interface. They've put too much work into Neo... I agree. Seeing corporate software from the inside as I tend to do these days, there are careers on the line with Neo. It may *be* a piece of shit, but it's *their* piece of shit, and they won't let it die. ...which is obviously aimed at being compatible with the growing mobile market. The old classic interface was poor for mobile devices. True that. I've seen and played with Neo on my iPhone, and it's much better on that format, which is pretty much *the* driving platform in software today. If it don't run on a mobile, it ain't happenin'. This trend may, in the long term, be bad for those of us who still have a habitual and emotional commitment to keyboards and monitors, in the form of laptops. My beloved Acer is gettin' old, and I'm looking at replacements. The new tiny Acer, lighter than but more powerful than the Mac Airbook, might be a possible contender, but no tablet is. Don't get me wrong...I'd *love* to have one to play with, but as a working (or given my lifestyle writing in cafes, playing) computer, it just don't cut it. I need a laptop. But I'm sure they'll take into any modifications that can be reasonably made to accommodate those who preferred the classic interface. (But don't count on it). The one thing I predict you *won't* see is making the interspersed comments in replies easier to create and see. That's really a carryover from the old Usenet and its method of quoting, and has ceased to be relevant on more modern interfaces. They tend to use graphical bars to indicate quoted material, not signs. And the overall thinking IMO is geared towards top posting. That's fallout from 1) mobiles, 2) a generation that just doesn't write long replies any more because they've been brainwashed by Twitter, 3) ease of implementation and (on mobiles in particular) ease of use, and 4) familiarity on the part of a new generation of users -- less of a learning curve. Top posting is here to stay, and lack of support for interspersed replies is pushin' up daisies. That's something that -- even though I'm often a fan of it myself and in fact am using it in this reply -- IMO is an anachronism left over from the Usenet days. We were just discovering online chats and discussions back then, and a lot of us were long-winded. And there were a lot of com- pulsive nitpickers (myself among them) who felt the need to reply to a post quote by quote, to agree or refute with it as if their agreement or disagreement were really important. :-) These days people -- and even in business emails -- do NOT reply point by point. Instead they fold their entire response into a summary, and put it at the top of the post. An assumption is made that the person being replied to remembers what the original post was about. Another assumption is that the person who said what you're replying to is adult enough not to need it parroted back to them and replied to point by point, as if the words had dripped from the lips of god herself. Also that no one in the conversation is paranoid about being misquoted or taken out of context. :-) As has been pointed out here, the worst aspect of Neo *is* in terms of its Reply interface. Quotes should be clearly identified as to who posted them, by *handle*, not by registered email id, or fairfieldlife@ I've still been spared having to use it, and am not looking forward to doing so, but I agree it's here to stay. Those of us tech Luddites who lament the passing of the classic interface are pissing into the wind; no attention will be paid to us because we are the past, and Yahoo is aiming at the future.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
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feste, you're one of the people I was thinking of and missing. Hope you're well and happy. I'm loving the cooler weather today. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC
Neo has kind of turned FFL into a forum for people who can spend a lot of time on it and keep track of who said what. I think it's a big loss, losing the people who used to contribute less frequently but adding just the spice that was needed, just the unique perspective that kept FFL lively and more universal. As they say in Sho-gun: karma, neh? From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
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The unintended consequences of shutting down comments on articles is that the hostility will no longer be online but in the streets. It's a sign of the time. People feel threatened by increasing authoritarian behavior on the part of governments and corporations. So maybe it's good they take to the streets and the corporate towers. ;-) On 09/27/2013 09:17 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: *Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities.* *Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website.* *Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership.* *Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership.* *-Buck*
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the only way I have been able to check these posts is because I have them sent to my yahoo e-mail account - trying to use the FFL group page itself is ridiculous. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
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So you will be made to sit through a 30 second ad before you will be able to post a reply or even a read a topic. I just use the email. On 09/28/2013 09:18 AM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com wrote: I also find the whole Neo thing pretty dysfunctional, and a great reason why shareholder corporations should not offer public utility-like services. Initially, needing to grow their market, Yahoo, or anyone else, offers a service like Yahoo forums. At some point the company is going to need to capitalize on its free offering, and modify it away from a utility service, and more towards, in this case, an advertising platform. It is a conflict of interests, and the public will always lose out, in favor of shareholder value. Of course, now we have government unions (insanity), so even the costs in the public sector are driven up by collective bargaining, raising taxes and the cost of services. It does tend to drive a person towards greater and greater self-sufficiency.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Neo has kind of turned FFL into a forum for people who can spend a lot of time on it and keep track of who said what. I think it's a big loss, losing the people who used to contribute less frequently but adding just the spice that was needed, just the unique perspective that kept FFL lively and more universal. As they say in Sho-gun: karma, neh? *From:* feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:13 AM *Subject:* RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. *From:* dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC *Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities.* *Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website.* *Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership.* *Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership.* *-Buck* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. --
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What percentage is the viewership of the group who are subscribed versus subscribed? It's an open group that anyone can view without subscribing. I wouldn't be surprised that the views by non-subscribers could be several times more than the actual posters. On 09/28/2013 11:23 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: I told Rick that I think FFL has outlived its usefulness. Rick's perspective is that FFL is still very popular and that others seem to enjoy it. So, FFL will remain as it is, and I will stick around to handle subscriptions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: **
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I have been following the feedback on the Yahoo Groups comment site. Yahoo gives lip service to this notion of we value your input. It is evident that it is only lip service. There is one lady in particular, Owl who is leading the charge to get Yahoo to return to the familiar format. It doesn't seem to be working out. From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:17 AM Subject: Re: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC the only way I have been able to check these posts is because I have them sent to my yahoo e-mail account - trying to use the FFL group page itself is ridiculous. From: feste37 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:13 AM Subject: RE: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Yeah, Neo has driven me away, certainly. It's a disaster. I can no longer follow discussions or even see who the author of a particular post is. Yahoo could not have done better if they had deliberately gone out to sabotage the group. Every single change made is for the worse. It's a pity because I have enjoyed this group since it started in 2001. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yesterday I was thinking about and missing all the people who have drifted away, especially since Neo. Also, I hope the abundance of my posting hasn't driven anyone away. I am aiming for 10 or less per day and for at least some humor with all the conflicts. Good plan. And perhaps aim at forming one complete thought before posting. From: dhamiltony2k5@... dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:17 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Post Count Sat 28-Sep-13 00:15:03 UTC Why should Rick Archer host this site any longer for mostly fractious, abusive and unpleasant postings by a few people flooding the content with their personal animosities. Popular Science magazine just shut down online comments to stories on its website. Disabling comments, The magazine says rude or insulting comments have been shown to skew readers’ understanding of articles and drives away readership. Interviewing with Fairfieldlife at yahoo-goups [FFL] members out on the sidewalks and in the coffee houses and cafes of Fairfield, Iowa who no longer read FFL, they say the culture of animosity and incivility of Rick Archer's list drives them away from reading it. A few people who have taken over FFL have driven away the community of what once was. It is a common complaint of the old readership. -Buck ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Can I be the first to congratulate authfriend and Share for breaking through the 100 barrier. They put the rest of us slackers to shame with our miserly inputs. The 852 messages total works out to about five messages an hour during the week. Five messages doesn't sound too onerous to deal with. And bear in mind that a lot of the messages are simple thumbs up or thumbs down feedback, such as . . . Outstanding post! Ha-ha! Thanks for that link OR Did you forget to take your medics today? You sir are a complete prat YAWN . . . . . . we are in their debt. Let us try harder in weeks to come. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 09/21/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 09/28/13 00:00:00 852 messages as of (UTC) 09/27/13 23:08:02 126 authfriend 113 Share Long 74 Richard J. Williams 57 turquoiseb 56 awoelflebater 52 doctordumbass 47 Bhairitu 41 s3raphita 39 dhamiltony2k5 31 Michael Jackson 28 cardemaister 25 jr_esq 20 anartaxius 17 Jason 16 obbajeeba 16 Steve Sundur 16 Emily Reyn 9 j_alexander_stanley 9 Mike Dixon 8 waspaligap 7 merudanda 6 Rick Archer 5 srijau 5 punditster 4 emptybill 4 WLeed3 4 Dick Mays 3 bobpriced 2 wleed3 2 punditster 2 iranitea 2 emilymae.reyn 2 Duveyoung 1 salyavin808 1 richard 1 Paulo Barbosa 1 LEnglish5 Posters: 37 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
