[FairfieldLife] Re: ...just change the names; the dance remains the same...

2005-09-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/26/05 10:42 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's not necessary for me to go over her books in order to see
  that a lot
  gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence of what the TMO 
has
  accomplished? Much less, as far as I can see, with a much larger
  influx of
  money. Also, I've seen fairly close up how Amma operates. Very
  frugal and
  self sacrificing. Nobody, including she, is living like a king.
  
  
  It's not necessary for me to go over Maharishi's books in order 
to
  see that a lot gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence of
  what Yogananda's organisation has accomplished? Much less, as 
far as
  I can see, with a much larger influx of money. Also, I've seen
  fairly close up how Maharishi operates. Very frugal and self
  sacrificing. Nobody, including he, is living like a king.
 
 Just words dude. Please itemize for us what has been accomplished 
with the
 hundreds of millions of dollars. Have you really seen close up how 
Maharishi
 operates? Vast amounts of money are squandered on wacky schemes 
that never
 come to fruition. Tony Nader isn't living like a king? He is one!



Again, Rick, you somehow think you're in a pissing contest to see 
which cult is better.

If you were more familiar with my posts you would know that I am one 
of the biggest critics of the TMO (not the technique but the 
organisation).

And I truly understand if you aren't because, as the founder and 
quasi-moderator of this group, I get the impression you feel an 
obligation to read as many posts as possible and it would be very 
hard for anyone to be that familiar with all the opinions of all the 
people who post here.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ...just change the names; the dance remains the same...

2005-09-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 9/26/05 11:01 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Again, Rick, you somehow think you're in a pissing contest to see
 which cult is better.
 
 If you were more familiar with my posts you would know that I am one
 of the biggest critics of the TMO (not the technique but the
 organisation).
 
 And I truly understand if you aren't because, as the founder and
 quasi-moderator of this group, I get the impression you feel an
 obligation to read as many posts as possible and it would be very
 hard for anyone to be that familiar with all the opinions of all the
 people who post here.

I guess I'm reacting to my possibly misperceived notion that you're saying
that all cults are created equal. I perceive vast differences between
various ones, although there may be certain fundamental similarities.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: ...just change the names; the dance remains the same...

2005-09-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 on 9/26/05 10:42 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's not necessary for me to go over her books in order to see
  that a lot
  gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence of what the TMO 
has
  accomplished? Much less, as far as I can see, with a much larger
  influx of
  money. Also, I've seen fairly close up how Amma operates. Very
  frugal and
  self sacrificing. Nobody, including she, is living like a king.
  
  
  It's not necessary for me to go over Maharishi's books in order to
  see that a lot gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence of
  what Yogananda's organisation has accomplished? Much less, as far 
as
  I can see, with a much larger influx of money. Also, I've seen
  fairly close up how Maharishi operates. Very frugal and self
  sacrificing. Nobody, including he, is living like a king.
 
 Just words dude. Please itemize for us what has been accomplished 
with the
 hundreds of millions of dollars. Have you really seen close up how 
Maharishi
 operates? Vast amounts of money are squandered on wacky schemes 
that never
 come to fruition. Tony Nader isn't living like a king? He is one!

Money squandered isn't the same as living like a king. Being a king 
in the TMO doesn't mean living like a king in the usual sense of 
the phrase. 




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[FairfieldLife] Re: ...just change the names; the dance remains the same...

2005-09-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  on 9/26/05 10:42 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's not necessary for me to go over her books in order to see
   that a lot
   gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence of what the 
TMO 
 has
   accomplished? Much less, as far as I can see, with a much 
larger
   influx of
   money. Also, I've seen fairly close up how Amma operates. Very
   frugal and
   self sacrificing. Nobody, including she, is living like a 
king.
   
   
   It's not necessary for me to go over Maharishi's books in 
order to
   see that a lot gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence 
of
   what Yogananda's organisation has accomplished? Much less, as 
far 
 as
   I can see, with a much larger influx of money. Also, I've seen
   fairly close up how Maharishi operates. Very frugal and self
   sacrificing. Nobody, including he, is living like a king.
  
  Just words dude. Please itemize for us what has been 
accomplished 
 with the
  hundreds of millions of dollars. Have you really seen close up 
how 
 Maharishi
  operates? Vast amounts of money are squandered on wacky schemes 
 that never
  come to fruition. Tony Nader isn't living like a king? He is one!
 
 Money squandered isn't the same as living like a king. Being 
a king 
 in the TMO doesn't mean living like a king in the usual sense of 
 the phrase.


It certainly does mean that as far as how King Tony is celebrated 
during those lavish ceremonies where he appears with his Crown on a 
throne and rides in a procession on an elephant and all that.

Next, we'll be seeing him do walkabouts with 7 or 8 Corgies at his 
feet...




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[FairfieldLife] Re: ...just change the names; the dance remains the same...

2005-09-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   on 9/26/05 10:42 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
It's not necessary for me to go over her books in order to 
see
that a lot
gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence of what the 
 TMO 
  has
accomplished? Much less, as far as I can see, with a much 
 larger
influx of
money. Also, I've seen fairly close up how Amma operates. 
Very
frugal and
self sacrificing. Nobody, including she, is living like a 
 king.


It's not necessary for me to go over Maharishi's books in 
 order to
see that a lot gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence 
 of
what Yogananda's organisation has accomplished? Much less, as 
 far 
  as
I can see, with a much larger influx of money. Also, I've seen
fairly close up how Maharishi operates. Very frugal and self
sacrificing. Nobody, including he, is living like a king.
   
   Just words dude. Please itemize for us what has been 
 accomplished 
  with the
   hundreds of millions of dollars. Have you really seen close up 
 how 
  Maharishi
   operates? Vast amounts of money are squandered on wacky schemes 
  that never
   come to fruition. Tony Nader isn't living like a king? He is 
one!
  
  Money squandered isn't the same as living like a king. Being 
 a king 
  in the TMO doesn't mean living like a king in the usual sense 
of 
  the phrase.
 
 
 It certainly does mean that as far as how King Tony is celebrated 
 during those lavish ceremonies where he appears with his Crown on a 
 throne and rides in a procession on an elephant and all that.
 
 Next, we'll be seeing him do walkabouts with 7 or 8 Corgies at his 
 feet...

Sounds like great fun, unless you're the guy who has to put up with 
all the pomp.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: ...just change the names; the dance remains the same...

2005-09-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
on 9/26/05 10:42 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's not necessary for me to go over her books in order 
to 
 see
 that a lot
 gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the evidence of what 
the 
  TMO 
   has
 accomplished? Much less, as far as I can see, with a much 
  larger
 influx of
 money. Also, I've seen fairly close up how Amma operates. 
 Very
 frugal and
 self sacrificing. Nobody, including she, is living like a 
  king.
 
 
 It's not necessary for me to go over Maharishi's books in 
  order to
 see that a lot gets accomplished. OTOH, where is the 
evidence 
  of
 what Yogananda's organisation has accomplished? Much less, 
as 
  far 
   as
 I can see, with a much larger influx of money. Also, I've 
seen
 fairly close up how Maharishi operates. Very frugal and 
self
 sacrificing. Nobody, including he, is living like a king.

Just words dude. Please itemize for us what has been 
  accomplished 
   with the
hundreds of millions of dollars. Have you really seen close 
up 
  how 
   Maharishi
operates? Vast amounts of money are squandered on wacky 
schemes 
   that never
come to fruition. Tony Nader isn't living like a king? He is 
 one!
   
   Money squandered isn't the same as living like a king. Being 
  a king 
   in the TMO doesn't mean living like a king in the usual 
sense 
 of 
   the phrase.
  
  
  It certainly does mean that as far as how King Tony is 
celebrated 
  during those lavish ceremonies where he appears with his Crown 
on a 
  throne and rides in a procession on an elephant and all that.
  
  Next, we'll be seeing him do walkabouts with 7 or 8 Corgies at 
his 
  feet...
 
 Sounds like great fun, unless you're the guy who has to put up 
with 
 all the pomp.


...what about the circumstance?




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[FairfieldLife] Re: ...just change the names; the dance remains the same...

2005-09-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

  Sounds like great fun, unless you're the guy who has to put up 
 with 
  all the pomp.
 
 
 ...what about the circumstance?

That depends...




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