--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You might enjoy reading Hyam Maccoby's The Myth-Maker:
Paul and the Invention of Christianity. Maccoby is
a Talmudic scholar and makes what seems to me to be
a very tight case for much of what I outlined in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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You might also enjoy (possibly a lot more, because
you'll be laughing most of the time)
Thanks for the recommendation.
Just for the record, I love to laugh and do it at
every opportunity. But I don't find it *more*
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You might also enjoy (possibly a lot more, because
you'll be laughing most of the time)
Thanks for the recommendation.
Just for
Thanks. Good information and book cite.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is certainly one take on it. You'd get an argument
from many orthodox Christians, however.
Paul never met Jesus in the flesh; he had a mystical
encounter, as he told
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.
Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with
them.
We ripped it apart. You get the impression that the phrase Jesus
died for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point Of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You raise being clueless to an Art Form.
Cool. My path involves turning *everything* into
an artform. :-)
But if you're not clueless, perhaps you could explain
to me what you saw in that film that you felt
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's just that the *focus* seems somehow WAY OFF
to me. If I were a strong believer in Christ as
my primary spiritual teacher, and wanted to do
justice to the inspiration and light he had brought
to my life, I don't
If you've never heard the song, think Delta Blues
to get a feel for the rhythm:
Mary grows a child without the help of a man
Joseph get upset because he doesn't understand
Angel comes to Joseph in a powerful dream
Says God did this and you're part of his scheme
Joseph comes to Mary with his
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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To balance this, many aspects of the film were
praiseworthy. I thought the casting was good,
and the use of the real Aramaic, Latin and
Hebrew was really fascinating, and added to my
understanding. Visually, the film was probably
as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But if you're not clueless, perhaps you could explain
to me what you saw in that film that you felt conveyed
a spiritual lesson of value. For me, it was sadly a
two-hour dissertation on sadism, and an attempt to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I wish Mel had done a mini series type film
that you see every few years on TV about Christ. Even
with their bumps and warts they are deeply moving. The
scene of Jesus carrying his cross up to his
crucifixtion and the
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I wish Mel had done a mini series type film
that you see every few years on TV about Christ.
Even
with their bumps and warts they are deeply moving.
The
scene of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That is one of the best ones. When I first watched it
on TV many years ago I had a very powerful spiritual
experience. I was watching the scene with Peter
denying Christ and scurrying around trying to hide
from people.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But if you're not clueless, perhaps you could explain
to me what you saw in that film that you felt conveyed
a spiritual lesson of value.
Was the purpose of the film to provide a spiritual lesson? Paricularly
was it to
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But if you're not clueless, perhaps you could explain
to me what you saw in that film that you felt conveyed
a spiritual lesson of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But if you're not clueless, perhaps you could explain
to me what you saw in that film that you felt conveyed
a spiritual lesson of value.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Was Jesus enlightened? Same questions as above, but inverted.
I don't know, but I suspect the dude was pretty high.
He may have been. Its also possible that he was a rather simple man,
and 2000 years of hype have made us
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So I'd speculate that perhaps the purpose of the film
is to renew and reinforce the belief that they've been
forgiven, in exactly the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Was Jesus enlightened? Same questions as above, but inverted.
I don't know, but I suspect the dude was pretty high.
He may have been. Its
Akasha:
Was Jesus enlightened? Same questions as above, but inverted.
Unc:
I don't know, but I suspect the dude was pretty high.
A:
He may have been. Its also possible that he was a rather simple
man, and 2000 years of hype have made us think he must have been a
high saint. History is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Akasha:
Was Jesus enlightened? Same questions as above, but
inverted.
Unc:
I don't know, but I suspect the dude was pretty high.
A:
He may have been. Its also possible that he was a rather simple
man,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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But if Paul hadn't come along decades later and started
preaching universal redemption, the Jesus movement might
well have died out. Because Paul opened Christianity
to gentiles and upped the stakes
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The
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That is one of the best ones. When I first watched
it
on TV many years ago I had a very powerful
spiritual
experience. I was watching the scene with Peter
denying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.
Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison?
You raise being clueless to an Art Form.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with them.
We ripped it apart. You get the impression that the phrase Jesus
died for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for his
death. No
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.
Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.
Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with
them.
We ripped it apart. You get the impression that the phrase Jesus
died
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with
them.
We ripped it apart. You get the impression that the phrase Jesus
died
eptfnj wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with them.
We ripped it apart. You get the impression that the phrase Jesus
died for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for his
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