Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Ok, Doc, good idea, see over at Batgap. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I liked it too, and yes, very difficult to get to the bottom of something like that with fewer posts. Yeah, I really enjoy hearing something that has the ring of truth, but is still far enough away, I can't quite make out what substantiates it. However, if you simply think about the language of UC, the duality becomes clearer, *I* am one with you, Everything is seen, in terms of *myself*, etc. A very, very subtle duality. Anyway, probably a topic for Batgap, if you like. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I can't comment on Ravi but I really enjoyed our back and forth about SOC, something we couldn't have done or probably wouldn't have done with limited posting. Anyway, you still have me thinking about that whole idea of UC having duality and ego. Something about it resonates as true but I'm not 100% grokking it yet. Still percolating so to speak. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the best place to start.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC Â I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Ravi Chivukula wrote: My guess is he has a date. Sorry dear Bob I missed this. No tamasic, low-vibe activites like dates for me, like I said I'm in an intense tapas, upon my return I plan to use my proposed candidacy (thank you Bob !!!) as a springboard to my Gurudom and will rely on the tried and tested formula of using the power differential between me and my female disciples to indulge in recurrent, shameless bone-a-babe rituals (thank you Xeno !!!). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU189rHBIIQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU189rHBIIQ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , bobpriced wrote: In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed embarrassment. My guess is he has a date. I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him, he will be back here, posting again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes place to start.:-) DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck, who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach. Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion (humorously, I might add). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently with her suggestion that people learn from their previous experience and just not bother reading any of the posts by people who you already know won't have anything to say. Using that guideline, I was able to skip 535 posts this week, reducing the total volume of dross I had to wade through to a mere 387 posts. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: They have drowned and driven off what originally had been a substantial community of writers about FFL. I do not feel that FFL should be maintained for these few people to use as their hate-full blog to just write their personal animosities towards each other. It is just abusive all the way around and has wrecked the breadth of a substantial salon that you Rick had hoped for all along with FFL. These people have destroyed the readership of FFL. There were long times that FFL was substantial and important to the spiritual well-being of Fairfield life. Rick it would be better now that you turn off the posting to FFL and now just let the archive stand as the important historical resource that it has become for the scholarly. But shut the posting-list down now and let these people find some other place to bait each other. Buck has a point. Some use this forum as a personal blog and some use it as if it's a family blog. Rick, shut it down temporarily for three weeks. It will give the members the time to rejig and reboot their brains. Not that it's going to change their characters or behaviour. Uncle Tantra and the 'all powerful Judy' and the rest of the 'mean girls' can take a time out, without feeling left out or missing out. Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Thank you, Voldemort! For once, you and I are in violent agreement! Taking the posting limits away actually ensures people discriminate about what they read - Holy frijoles! Just like in the real world! OMG, what a concept - self control and discrimination! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently with her suggestion that people learn from their previous experience and just not bother reading any of the posts by people who you already know won't have anything to say. Using that guideline, I was able to skip 535 posts this week, reducing the total volume of dross I had to wade through to a mere 387 posts. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the best place to start.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC Â I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Doc, I can't comment on Ravi but I really enjoyed our back and forth about SOC, something we couldn't have done or probably wouldn't have done with limited posting. Anyway, you still have me thinking about that whole idea of UC having duality and ego. Something about it resonates as true but I'm not 100% grokking it yet. Still percolating so to speak. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the best place to start.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC Â I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Obbajee, hope you don't mind 4th place. You can blame it on yahoo. Posts are arriving way late to my inbox. So I've been using Message View and I guess when I reply from there my identifier is different so it lists me as 2 people, which is perfect for a triple Gemini (-: 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 13 sharelong60 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC -Obba in third place this week! Thank you, Natural Law a Bounty!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently with her suggestion that people learn from their previous experience and just not bother reading any of the posts by people who you already know won't have anything to say. Using that guideline, I was able to skip 535 posts this week, reducing the total volume of dross I had to wade through to a mere 387 posts. :-) Good work. It is handy that you can tell what a post says without looking at it, oh seer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@... wrote: --- Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: They have drowned and driven off what originally had been a substantial community of writers about FFL. I do not feel that FFL should be maintained for these few people to use as their hate-full blog to just write their personal animosities towards each other. It is just abusive all the way around and has wrecked the breadth of a substantial salon that you Rick had hoped for all along with FFL. These people have destroyed the readership of FFL. There were long times that FFL was substantial and important to the spiritual well-being of Fairfield life. Rick it would be better now that you turn off the posting to FFL and now just let the archive stand as the important historical resource that it has become for the scholarly. But shut the posting-list down now and let these people find some other place to bait each other. Buck has a point. Some use this forum as a personal blog and some use it as if it's a family blog. Rick, shut it down temporarily for three weeks. It will give the members the time to rejig and reboot their brains. Not that it's going to change their characters or behaviour. Uncle Tantra and the 'all powerful Judy' and the rest of the 'mean girls' can take a time out, without feeling left out or missing out. Ye, shut 'er down, shut 'em up, lock 'em out. That'll show 'em, err. Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently with her suggestion that people learn from their previous experience and just not bother reading any of the posts by people who you already know won't have anything to say. Ah, but that wasn't what she said, now, was it, Barry? Here's what she said: Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum, and usually made by the same people over and over and over. I think they enjoy that type of interaction, thrive on it even. Not my style, though. And not at all the way things used to be here, as you know. One solution is not to read them. At all. Works for me. Which means she doesn't read *your* posts, Barry, and that you've just suggested to FFLers that *they* not read your posts. OOOopsie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Share, I forgot all about your dual personality and your ability to turn something known as dual into a triple. I got it, nice play with words and jyotish. ha. Yahoo is really messed up right now. The processing is much more annoying than any talk about complaining of an unlimited post count. Unlimited post count has helped many of us be the more touchy-feely loving presence with each other. Hug. Kiss. Hug. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj0BnsF1FXs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj0BnsF1FXs I am feeling much better with 4th place actually, since it proves my clicky dysentery to be more tame than I thought. Congratulations, first place winner! Better go and tell the Dr. D. but, he may be disappointed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Obbajee, hope you don't mind 4th place. You can blame it on yahoo. Posts are arriving way late to my inbox. So I've been using Message View and I guess when I reply from there my identifier is different so it lists me as 2 people, which is perfect for a triple Gemini (-: 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 13 sharelong60 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC  -Obba in third place this week! Thank you, Natural Law a Bounty!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Obbajee, I'm only at 99 so third place! Yeah, yahoo very messed up. I couldn't even reply to this first time I tried. As for jyotish: I'm in Mangal, Ketu Rahu; Ketu is transiting natal Rahu in 7th and depositor Mangal is debilitated; Rahu and Sani are transiting natal Ketu in 1st and depositor Venus is debilitated. Yikes! From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC Share, I forgot all about your dual personality and your ability to turn something known as dual into a triple. I got it, nice play with words and jyotish. ha. Yahoo is really messed up right now. The processing is much more annoying than any talk about complaining of an unlimited post count. Unlimited post count has helped many of us be the more touchy-feely loving presence with each other. Hug. Kiss. Hug. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj0BnsF1FXs I am feeling much better with 4th place actually, since it proves my clicky dysentery to be more tame than I thought. Congratulations, first place winner! Better go and tell the Dr. D. but, he may be disappointed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Obbajee, hope you don't mind 4th place. You can blame it on yahoo. Posts are arriving way late to my inbox. So I've been using Message View and I guess when I reply from there my identifier is different so it lists me as 2 people, which is perfect for a triple Gemini (-: 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 13 sharelong60 From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 7:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC  -Obba in third place this week! Thank you, Natural Law a Bounty!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes place to start.:-) DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck, who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach. Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion (humorously, I might add). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Actually from his point of view he's right and I agree with him from his point of view. I gained a great deal of healing and education here, although from Bucks point of view that may not have been the original intention of the group. Reading the FFL description most of the posts fall into the Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth and liberation everywhere But I admit that the name calling and cussing each other out is unpleasant and I have been guilty of it myself, particularly toward feste, doc, nabby and seventhray when they irritated me. It does however seem that Buck wants a group that focuses on Fairfield and how to make it better and the joys of TM in the Dome and how to get the TM leaders to behave as if they are somebody instead of acting like trash. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:35 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC He's not serious, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: They have drowned and driven off what originally had been a substantial community of writers about FFL. I do not feel that FFL should be maintained for these few people to use as their hate-full blog to just write their personal animosities towards each other. It is just abusive all the way around and has wrecked the breadth of a substantial salon that you Rick had hoped for all along with FFL. These people have destroyed the readership of FFL. There were long times that FFL was substantial and important to the spiritual well-being of Fairfield life. Rick it would be better now that you turn off the posting to FFL and now just let the archive stand as the important historical resource that it has become for the scholarly. But shut the posting-list down now and let these people find some other place to bait each other. Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Actually, i meant pretty much what Barry said, and I was not including Barry in the posts that I don't read. I do skip his posts where he generalizes about TB's at FFL. I also skip most of the posts of several other people for the reasons I stated. I find many of Barry's posts really interesting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently with her suggestion that people learn from their previous experience and just not bother reading any of the posts by people who you already know won't have anything to say. Ah, but that wasn't what she said, now, was it, Barry? Here's what she said: Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum, and usually made by the same people over and over and over. I think they enjoy that type of interaction, thrive on it even. Not my style, though. And not at all the way things used to be here, as you know. One solution is not to read them. At all. Works for me. Which means she doesn't read *your* posts, Barry, and that you've just suggested to FFLers that *they* not read your posts. OOOopsie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Actually, i meant pretty much what Barry said, and I was not including Barry in the posts that I don't read. I do skip his posts where he generalizes about TB's at FFL. I also skip most of the posts of several other people for the reasons I stated. I find many of Barry's posts really interesting. What I've never understood, Susan, is how you've missed the fact that Barry's posts, more than anyone else's on FFL, *depend* on ad hominem. If you are trying to avoid reading ad hominem, you'd have to skip reading *most* of his posts. It's not just those that generalize about TBs at FFL. It's vicious, sadistic personal attacks on specific individuals, attacks on *TMers* in general (not just those on FFL, and not just TBs), attacks on Americans in general, and on and on. And for the most part these are *gratuitous* attacks, not responses to attacks by others on himself. I'm far from the only person here who is aware of all this. Barry's posts emit a sort of miasma of hatred that permeates the group, and you have somehow managed to close your perception to it--while at the same time self-righteously holding your nose at the ad hominem of *other* people. It's just very, very strange, Susan. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently with her suggestion that people learn from their previous experience and just not bother reading any of the posts by people who you already know won't have anything to say. Ah, but that wasn't what she said, now, was it, Barry? Here's what she said: Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum, and usually made by the same people over and over and over. I think they enjoy that type of interaction, thrive on it even. Not my style, though. And not at all the way things used to be here, as you know. One solution is not to read them. At all. Works for me. Which means she doesn't read *your* posts, Barry, and that you've just suggested to FFLers that *they* not read your posts. OOOopsie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Judy, I am aware of Barry's ad hom posts and I don't like them and instantly stop reading when I get that whiff. I do like some of his other types. I understand your position on that and do see what you see, at least to some extent. I think that I am not so bothered by it - not sure why it does not get to me. But you yourself are in that group that, to me at least, seem to be doing lots of ad h posting, attacks on others. Obviously you are extremely bright and are a terrific source of information and are good at detail and analysis. And you are very sure of your opinions. But I find many (not all some are excellent to me) of your posts to be confrontational and others to be about details and distracting from the main point. Those are the ones of yours that I move on from. Just go thru the postings with an open mind, as if you were a newbie here. Notice how may are attacking other people (not just Barry's, but several the others). Name Calling, bringing up old old posts and creating arguments about people's past positions on something or someone. It is pretty odd, and for me with not much free time due to a job and other responsibilities, really repetitious. I just limit my time and read things that speak to me, so I am not advocating posting limits. It is more the tone of the place and all the personal stuff that goes on and on and is not resolved. I mean, if you don't like someone, why bother to read what they write? Unless you enjoy arguing, which might be the case. But I can't see that anyone here has changed anyone else in any way by criticizing. Or pointing things out. Maybe this post is just another one of those.So, for me being selective and opting out once I get that Ad H whiff is my solution. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Actually, i meant pretty much what Barry said, and I was not including Barry in the posts that I don't read. I do skip his posts where he generalizes about TB's at FFL. I also skip most of the posts of several other people for the reasons I stated. I find many of Barry's posts really interesting. What I've never understood, Susan, is how you've missed the fact that Barry's posts, more than anyone else's on FFL, *depend* on ad hominem. If you are trying to avoid reading ad hominem, you'd have to skip reading *most* of his posts. It's not just those that generalize about TBs at FFL. It's vicious, sadistic personal attacks on specific individuals, attacks on *TMers* in general (not just those on FFL, and not just TBs), attacks on Americans in general, and on and on. And for the most part these are *gratuitous* attacks, not responses to attacks by others on himself. I'm far from the only person here who is aware of all this. Barry's posts emit a sort of miasma of hatred that permeates the group, and you have somehow managed to close your perception to it--while at the same time self-righteously holding your nose at the ad hominem of *other* people. It's just very, very strange, Susan. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently with her suggestion that people learn from their previous experience and just not bother reading any of the posts by people who you already know won't have anything to say. Ah, but that wasn't what she said, now, was it, Barry? Here's what she said: Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum, and usually made by the same people over and over and over. I think they enjoy that type of interaction, thrive on it even. Not my style, though. And not at all the way things used to be here, as you know. One solution is not to read them. At all. Works for me. Which means she doesn't read *your* posts, Barry, and that you've just suggested to FFLers that *they* not read your posts. OOOopsie.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him, he will be back here, posting again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes place to start.:-) DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck, who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach. Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion (humorously, I might add). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
I liked it too, and yes, very difficult to get to the bottom of something like that with fewer posts. Yeah, I really enjoy hearing something that has the ring of truth, but is still far enough away, I can't quite make out what substantiates it. However, if you simply think about the language of UC, the duality becomes clearer, *I* am one with you, Everything is seen, in terms of *myself*, etc. A very, very subtle duality. Anyway, probably a topic for Batgap, if you like. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60 sharelong60@... wrote: Doc, I can't comment on Ravi but I really enjoyed our back and forth about SOC, something we couldn't have done or probably wouldn't have done with limited posting. Anyway, you still have me thinking about that whole idea of UC having duality and ego. Something about it resonates as true but I'm not 100% grokking it yet. Still percolating so to speak. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the best place to start.:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC Â I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
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In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed embarrassment. My guess is he has a date. I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , doctordumbass@... wrote: I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him, he will be back here, posting again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , doctordumbass@ wrote: Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes place to start.:-) DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck, who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach. Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion (humorously, I might add). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Share Long wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Ravi Chivukula wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck
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No doubt. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced bobpriced@... wrote: In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed embarrassment. My guess is he has a date. I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , doctordumbass@ wrote: I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him, he will be back here, posting again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , doctordumbass@ wrote: Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes place to start.:-) DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck, who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach. Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion (humorously, I might add). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Share Long wrote: Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Ravi Chivukula wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote: Judy, I am aware of Barry's ad hom posts and I don't like them and instantly stop reading when I get that whiff. I do like some of his other types. I understand your position on that and do see what you see, at least to some extent. Just out of curiosity, then, do you find that his comment (quoted below) was *just* a tad hypocritical? I think that I am not so bothered by it - not sure why it does not get to me. Possibly because you've protected yourself by supporting him, so you are pretty sure he isn't going to attack *you*. Easier to distance yourself from his attacks on others. But you yourself are in that group that, to me at least, seem to be doing lots of ad h posting, attacks on others. I do some, but not all that much, Susan. And I very rarely do it as a substitute for a reasoned reply, unlike Barry. Obviously you are extremely bright and are a terrific source of information and are good at detail and analysis. And you are very sure of your opinions. But I find many (not all some are excellent to me) of your posts to be confrontational and others to be about details and distracting from the main point. Those are the ones of yours that I move on from. Fine, not everyone likes all of everyone else's posts. There are quite a few *I* move on from. I did explain to you once before that often a detail that's wrong can affect the validity of the main point, so correcting a detail can be more important than it seems on its own terms. Just go thru the postings with an open mind, as if you were a newbie here. Notice how may are attacking other people (not just Barry's, but several the others). Name Calling, bringing up old old posts and creating arguments about people's past positions on something or someone. It is pretty odd, and for me with not much free time due to a job and other responsibilities, really repetitious. I think you're referring to a rather heated, prolonged exchange I had with iranitea this past week. If you were to start at the beginning of that exchange and read through it, you would, I believe, see that it was iranitea who introduced, maintained, and escalated the ad hominem. He showed up here expressly to pick a fight with me and to dump on Robin. He's done that on a regular basis ever since we had a contretemps back in December 2011. The whole thing was odd, and extremely unpleasant. But whatever his weird problem is, I'm not going to allow him to say things about me and about Robin that aren't true, or things that are not true about his own behavior in the past. What he wrote about Robin that sparked the contretemps back then was awful, inexcusable, and he's never shown the slightest bit of remorse for it. I'm not going to allow him to sugar- coat it. I think the point here, Susan, is that you can't really evaluate someone's posting behavior if you don't take time to follow their posts. When you pop in and out as you do, take a quick glance at a few posts and see ad hominems, and conclude that the poster does lots of ad h posting and is confrontational, without looking at what they're responding to or knowing the history behind it, you're likely to get a very inaccurate picture. I don't mind in the slightest if you don't read my posts. I *do* mind when, on the basis of a glance here and there, you mischaracterize my posting behavior. I just limit my time and read things that speak to me, so I am not advocating posting limits. It is more the tone of the place and all the personal stuff that goes on and on and is not resolved. I mean, if you don't like someone, why bother to read what they write? In Barry's case, because he so often says things about me and others that are maliciously untrue. Unless you enjoy arguing, which might be the case. Arguing can be fun when it doesn't get personal. But I can't see that anyone here has changed anyone else in any way by criticizing. Or pointing things out. The anyone else isn't the only person reading the posts, Susan. Well, sometimes it is! But you know what I mean. I don't entertain any illusions that I'm going to change a person who has attacked me or others gratuitously and falsely by calling him out on it, but I want it on the record. Maybe this post is just another one of those.So, for me being selective and opting out once I get that Ad H whiff is my solution. Again, seems perfectly reasonable to me, but then you really oughtn't to make these judgmental comments-- especially when you're *selectively* judgmental. Finally, changing the subject, I thought your response to Michael was superb. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Actually, i meant pretty much what Barry said, and I was not including Barry in the posts that I don't read. I do skip his posts where he generalizes about TB's at
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My guess is he has a date. Sorry dear Bob I missed this. No tamasic, low-vibe activites like dates for me, like I said I'm in an intense tapas, upon my return I plan to use my proposed candidacy (thank you Bob !!!) as a springboard to my Gurudom and will rely on the tried and tested formula of using the power differential between me and my female disciples to indulge in recurrent, shameless bone-a-babe rituals (thank you Xeno !!!). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced wrote: In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed embarrassment. My guess is he has a date. I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him, he will be back here, posting again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes place to start.:-) DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck, who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach. Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion (humorously, I might add). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck
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I liked Judy's response below here a lot. It is cogent, clear, apropos and very relevant and balanced; it is how I like many things in my life. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Judy, I am aware of Barry's ad hom posts and I don't like them and instantly stop reading when I get that whiff. I do like some of his other types. I understand your position on that and do see what you see, at least to some extent. Just out of curiosity, then, do you find that his comment (quoted below) was *just* a tad hypocritical? I think that I am not so bothered by it - not sure why it does not get to me. Possibly because you've protected yourself by supporting him, so you are pretty sure he isn't going to attack *you*. Easier to distance yourself from his attacks on others. But you yourself are in that group that, to me at least, seem to be doing lots of ad h posting, attacks on others. I do some, but not all that much, Susan. And I very rarely do it as a substitute for a reasoned reply, unlike Barry. Obviously you are extremely bright and are a terrific source of information and are good at detail and analysis. And you are very sure of your opinions. But I find many (not all some are excellent to me) of your posts to be confrontational and others to be about details and distracting from the main point. Those are the ones of yours that I move on from. Fine, not everyone likes all of everyone else's posts. There are quite a few *I* move on from. I did explain to you once before that often a detail that's wrong can affect the validity of the main point, so correcting a detail can be more important than it seems on its own terms. Just go thru the postings with an open mind, as if you were a newbie here. Notice how may are attacking other people (not just Barry's, but several the others). Name Calling, bringing up old old posts and creating arguments about people's past positions on something or someone. It is pretty odd, and for me with not much free time due to a job and other responsibilities, really repetitious. I think you're referring to a rather heated, prolonged exchange I had with iranitea this past week. If you were to start at the beginning of that exchange and read through it, you would, I believe, see that it was iranitea who introduced, maintained, and escalated the ad hominem. He showed up here expressly to pick a fight with me and to dump on Robin. He's done that on a regular basis ever since we had a contretemps back in December 2011. The whole thing was odd, and extremely unpleasant. But whatever his weird problem is, I'm not going to allow him to say things about me and about Robin that aren't true, or things that are not true about his own behavior in the past. What he wrote about Robin that sparked the contretemps back then was awful, inexcusable, and he's never shown the slightest bit of remorse for it. I'm not going to allow him to sugar- coat it. I think the point here, Susan, is that you can't really evaluate someone's posting behavior if you don't take time to follow their posts. When you pop in and out as you do, take a quick glance at a few posts and see ad hominems, and conclude that the poster does lots of ad h posting and is confrontational, without looking at what they're responding to or knowing the history behind it, you're likely to get a very inaccurate picture. I don't mind in the slightest if you don't read my posts. I *do* mind when, on the basis of a glance here and there, you mischaracterize my posting behavior. I just limit my time and read things that speak to me, so I am not advocating posting limits. It is more the tone of the place and all the personal stuff that goes on and on and is not resolved. I mean, if you don't like someone, why bother to read what they write? In Barry's case, because he so often says things about me and others that are maliciously untrue. Unless you enjoy arguing, which might be the case. Arguing can be fun when it doesn't get personal. But I can't see that anyone here has changed anyone else in any way by criticizing. Or pointing things out. The anyone else isn't the only person reading the posts, Susan. Well, sometimes it is! But you know what I mean. I don't entertain any illusions that I'm going to change a person who has attacked me or others gratuitously and falsely by calling him out on it, but I want it on the record. Maybe this post is just another one of those.So, for me being selective and opting out once I get that Ad H whiff is my solution. Again, seems perfectly reasonable to me, but then you really oughtn't to make these judgmental comments-- especially when you're *selectively* judgmental. Finally, changing the subject, I thought your response to Michael was
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: My guess is he has a date. Sorry dear Bob I missed this. No tamasic, low-vibe activites like dates for me, like I said I'm in an intense tapas, upon my return I plan to use my proposed candidacy (thank you Bob !!!) as a springboard to my Gurudom and will rely on the tried and tested formula of using the power differential between me and my female disciples to indulge in recurrent, shameless bone-a-babe rituals (thank you Xeno !!!). Sorry forgot to add that these bone-a-babe rituals will be given a narrative that supports these women's fantasies. How about Tantric sex? Yeah I believe that would suffice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bobpriced wrote: In the rich emotional palette and many aspects of his personality that Ravi has shared with us on this forum I have never noticed embarrassment. My guess is he has a date. I somehow imagine, like MacArthur before him, Ravi will return: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv1PF0tAE1s --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I think he's probably just embarrassed about the whole thing. I would be, if I were him. No big deal to me. Maybe if you quit reminding him, he will be back here, posting again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Hell, maybe he is just embarrassed by it. After all, Ravi is Indian. TM is a significant distillation, repackaging and rebirth of his spiritual heritage, and he is ignorant of it. So, if I were in his shoes, I'd want people to stop talking about it too, though a TM-centric forum may not be the bes place to start.:-) DrD, you're misconstruing what Ravi wrote. He isn't saying he wants people to stop talking about TM. You're pissed because he includes you in the two people he wants to send off with Buck, who doesn't want to discuss anything *but* TM stuff. His implied criticism is of Buck's fundamentalist approach. Secondarily, he's saying that among the top posters, he finds your and Share's contributions to the discussions generally to be of less interest than obba's and mine. In your case, I don't agree, but he's entitled to express his opinion (humorously, I might add). --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Ravi, it's kind of like when you discuss jyotish and some get upset. For me the whole enlightenment topic is just a fun thing to discuss, throw ideas around, learn other perspectives. I come mainly from a TM perspective so that's the language I know best but I thoroughly enjoy reading it written about from annother perspective, with other language, like in Xeno's writing for example. From: doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Dear Rick, Lacking moderation simply a few people only abuse the whole group here continually flooding the larger list with their own personal arguments and snipes. Mostly ever since that time frame of the migration from Alt.med as a group most of the volume of FFL has gone over to a few writers only and most of those are solely engaged in personal spiteful Ad hominem baiting, banter and attack. This unlimited posting experiment quite evidently accentuates this problem with them. They have drowned and driven off what originally had been a substantial community of writers about FFL. I do not feel that FFL should be maintained for these few people to use as their hate-full blog to just write their personal animosities towards each other. It is just abusive all the way around and has wrecked the breadth of a substantial salon that you Rick had hoped for all along with FFL. These people have destroyed the readership of FFL. There were long times that FFL was substantial and important to the spiritual well-being of Fairfield life. Rick it would be better now that you turn off the posting to FFL and now just let the archive stand as the important historical resource that it has become for the scholarly. But shut the posting-list down now and let these people find some other place to bait each other. Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Buck, How much did a foundation pay you to say that? Here, enjoy this documentary showing Rajas enjoying the spiritually rich cultural dance of the islanders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpD2757jrc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpD2757jrc You know, Bucky, I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy going on and one has to follow the money, they say. Hail the no Saint Policy in the domes! Hail! Jai! Keep the no Saint Policy forever! There, now we have an even playing field? -Obba in third place this week! Thank you, Natural Law a Bounty! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
They have drowned and driven off what originally had been a substantial community of writers about FFL. I do not feel that FFL should be maintained for these few people to use as their hate-full blog to just write their personal animosities towards each other. It is just abusive all the way around and has wrecked the breadth of a substantial salon that you Rick had hoped for all along with FFL. These people have destroyed the readership of FFL. There were long times that FFL was substantial and important to the spiritual well-being of Fairfield life. Rick it would be better now that you turn off the posting to FFL and now just let the archive stand as the important historical resource that it has become for the scholarly. But shut the posting-list down now and let these people find some other place to bait each other. Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. New anti-abuse guidelines, hm? Where may we see these guidelines, Buck?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
On 08/23/2013 05:39 PM, obbajeeba wrote: Buck, How much did a foundation pay you to say that? Here, enjoy this documentary showing Rajas enjoying the spiritually rich cultural dance of the islanders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpD2757jrc You know, Bucky, I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy going on and one has to follow the money, they say. Hail the no Saint Policy in the domes! Hail! Jai! Keep the no Saint Policy forever! There, now we have an even playing field? -Obba in third place this week! Thank you, Natural Law a Bounty! I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
He's not serious, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: They have drowned and driven off what originally had been a substantial community of writers about FFL. I do not feel that FFL should be maintained for these few people to use as their hate-full blog to just write their personal animosities towards each other. It is just abusive all the way around and has wrecked the breadth of a substantial salon that you Rick had hoped for all along with FFL. These people have destroyed the readership of FFL. There were long times that FFL was substantial and important to the spiritual well-being of Fairfield life. Rick it would be better now that you turn off the posting to FFL and now just let the archive stand as the important historical resource that it has become for the scholarly. But shut the posting-list down now and let these people find some other place to bait each other. Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
I understand it is always a pain in the butt to be around people discussing something you know next to nothing about, Ravi, but bear with us, and we'll bear with you, too. Deal? Group Hug? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Buck - tell you what. You need a new list where you can discuss TM, CC, GC, UC, BC ad nauseam. We will split the top 4 posters, you take Dr. Dumbass and Stupid Share and we will keep Judy Durga and Obba Gopi. Plus with the talent you will have you can follow Twitter style 140 characters or less. On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: ** Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
Right, I broke through the 50 barrier without even working up a sweat. Speed limits are for sissy boys and old maids. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
well, I guess its better than writing, all work and no play make Jack a dull boy, ten thousand times, before picking up an axe... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: He's not serious, right? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: They have drowned and driven off what originally had been a substantial community of writers about FFL. I do not feel that FFL should be maintained for these few people to use as their hate-full blog to just write their personal animosities towards each other. It is just abusive all the way around and has wrecked the breadth of a substantial salon that you Rick had hoped for all along with FFL. These people have destroyed the readership of FFL. There were long times that FFL was substantial and important to the spiritual well-being of Fairfield life. Rick it would be better now that you turn off the posting to FFL and now just let the archive stand as the important historical resource that it has become for the scholarly. But shut the posting-list down now and let these people find some other place to bait each other. Look down at the post list and see that very few are actually related to FF or FFL. Most have neither been to Fairfield in modern times nor some of the worst offenders have nothing to do with meditating or Fairfield. Several come here to FFL and just flood up the list who don't even meditate as if they have rights and are part of a community here. These angry and childish have succeeded in flooding out most all writers of merit and most any writing that was communally relevant. Yep, give the FFL list a rest as a place to post. Time to shut it off and re-group if you won't moderate it and these people will not moderate themselves. Hardly anyone is reading it anymore other than the few who post only to antagonize one-another. Put an end to it one way or another. We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@ wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
First! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 08/23/2013 05:39 PM, obbajeeba wrote: Buck, How much did a foundation pay you to say that? Here, enjoy this documentary showing Rajas enjoying the spiritually rich cultural dance of the islanders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpD2757jrc You know, Bucky, I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy going on and one has to follow the money, they say. Hail the no Saint Policy in the domes! Hail! Jai! Keep the no Saint Policy forever! There, now we have an even playing field? -Obba in third place this week! Thank you, Natural Law a Bounty! I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: First! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 08/23/2013 05:39 PM, obbajeeba wrote: Buck, How much did a foundation pay you to say that? Here, enjoy this documentary showing Rajas enjoying the spiritually rich cultural dance of the islanders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDpD2757jrc You know, Bucky, I am beginning to think there is a conspiracy going on and one has to follow the money, they say. Hail the no Saint Policy in the domes! Hail! Jai! Keep the no Saint Policy forever! There, now we have an even playing field? -Obba in third place this week! Thank you, Natural Law a Bounty! I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: We should not have to indulge the wicked in their abusive name-calling ad hominem behavior here. Stop enabling it. If these people clearly have no personal restraint and it is not going to be moderated by themselves then force upon them mailing their personal vendettas off-list as a stop to subjecting the public to their abuse of the community and FFL. Yes, consider we give it all a break and suspend everyone from posting on FFL. Just let the archive stand for what it is. A few people have hijacked what could have been so good with their exhibited bad social behavior and ill consideration of the group. Good content drives readership. Relevant content is what drives readership. You know that from your professional life. These few people have driven FFL to hell. They have effectively seized the forum and driven all the good writers and the FFL audience away. It is time to do away their low form of argument here on FFL, to put an end to the ad hominem. Push to have the personal invective taken off the list. It is time to recapture FFL and take it back for the civil, high-minded and good people of the larger community. Dear Rick, please act soon to save the historic archive that is FFL before Yahoo moves to enforce its new anti-abuse guidelines and closes the pages of the group entirely. Sincerely, -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount wrote: Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 08/17/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 08/24/13 00:00:00 922 messages as of (UTC) 08/23/13 23:43:32 109 doctordumbass 106 authfriend 91 obbajeeba 86 Share Long 59 Seraphita 50 Ann 35 iranitea 31 Alex Stanley 30 Ravi Chivukula 28 RoryGoff 27 Bhairitu 25 emilymae.reyn 19 Mike Dixon 18 turquoiseb 18 Michael Jackson 17 merudanda 16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius 16 Bob Price 14 Jason 13 sharelong60 13 emptybill 10 sparaig 10 salyavin808 10 card 9 Emily Reyn 7 bobpriced 7 azgrey 6 nablusoss1008 6 John 5 Rick Archer 4 raunchydog 4 Duveyoung 4 Buck 3 feste37 3 cardemaister 3 Susan 2 seventhray27 2 Dick Mays 1 wleed3 1 wgm4u 1 srijau 1 WLeed3 1 Richard J. Williams 1 PaliGap Posters: 44 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: First! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) He will probably crib from that old-time classic of Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), Winners in the hands of an angry God
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Sat 24-Aug-13 00:15:10 UTC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: First! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) He will probably crib from that old-time classic of Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), Winners in the hands of an angry God https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtHijgqceXo
