[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Has Never Practiced Or Taught TM As Taught By MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've concluded that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't be so misguided on the contrasts between TM and other techniques. Please set the record straight: were you or were you not intiated into TM as taught by MMY.? I know you are a disciple of Norbu Rinpoche, but what technique does he have that equals TM, Dance of the Vajra? In my book, the main consideration is the POWER in the mantra; and the use of the mantra is important, but secondary. In regard to the mantra's power, this question can't be resolved through logic; but rather direct experience only. For example, I've been initiated into the Ramakrishna mantra by an authorized Monk but there was little power in that mantra compared to TM. In the Sant Mat tradition alone, I've been initated by representatives of Kirpal Singh, Charan Singh, Thakur Singh, Darshan Singh, and the Eckankar Guru Paul Twitchell. Nope, no power in those mantras!. I've been initiated by Muktananda and Guru Maharaji. Far more power in the TM mantra!. So what's your comparison test? First, were you initiated by an authorized rep of MMY, or not; and how did your experience of TM compare with the mantras of other traditions? If you weren't initiated into TM (as taught by MMY), then you aren't qualified to render an opinion; since the taste test isn't possible without direct experience. And who the Hell is Dana? Hi, Excellent detective work sinhlnx! I can confirm your supposition here. Vaj has never been initiated into, nor taught, TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. After I read your piece, I did some research, and some pattern matching, and it is unmistakable. You are correct in asserting that Vaj has been saying 'TM' but meaning mantra meditation, **NOT TM**. It has been his tiny little 'secret', but after reading your words, I had enough clues to know precisely how to look at Vaj to get the answer, and the answer as said is unmistakable and conclusive-- Vaj has never learned TM, Practiced TM, or taught TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I suspect he will be surprised reading this! So all of this time, he has been claiming to be speaking about TM as a former practitioner and teacher. Not a good thing at all. Pure arrogance on his part. Oh well, I suppose it was good while it lasted, eh Vaj? I made a post way back, concluding that Vaj had not learned TM. It was obvious from his posts. He has learned lots of other techniques from the internet though. When he says he has been initiated it means he learned something from the internet. (I also, predicted that Turquoise B was a Wino, a fact he has recently confirmed...but he is trying to change that and I wish him well) OffWorld To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Has Never Practiced Or Taught TM As Taught By MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've concluded that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't be so misguided on the contrasts between TM and other techniques. Please set the record straight: were you or were you not intiated into TM as taught by MMY.? I know you are a disciple of Norbu Rinpoche, but what technique does he have that equals TM, Dance of the Vajra? In my book, the main consideration is the POWER in the mantra; and the use of the mantra is important, but secondary. In regard to the mantra's power, this question can't be resolved through logic; but rather direct experience only. For example, I've been initiated into the Ramakrishna mantra by an authorized Monk but there was little power in that mantra compared to TM. In the Sant Mat tradition alone, I've been initated by representatives of Kirpal Singh, Charan Singh, Thakur Singh, Darshan Singh, and the Eckankar Guru Paul Twitchell. Nope, no power in those mantras!. I've been initiated by Muktananda and Guru Maharaji. Far more power in the TM mantra!. So what's your comparison test? First, were you initiated by an authorized rep of MMY, or not; and how did your experience of TM compare with the mantras of other traditions? If you weren't initiated into TM (as taught by MMY), then you aren't qualified to render an opinion; since the taste test isn't possible without direct experience. And who the Hell is Dana? Hi, Excellent detective work sinhlnx! I can confirm your supposition here. Vaj has never been initiated into, nor taught, TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. After I read your piece, I did some research, and some pattern matching, and it is unmistakable. You are correct in asserting that Vaj has been saying 'TM' but meaning mantra meditation, **NOT TM**. It has been his tiny little 'secret', but after reading your words, I had enough clues to know precisely how to look at Vaj to get the answer, and the answer as said is unmistakable and conclusive-- Vaj has never learned TM, Practiced TM, or taught TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I suspect he will be surprised reading this! So all of this time, he has been claiming to be speaking about TM as a former practitioner and teacher. Not a good thing at all. Pure arrogance on his part. Oh well, I suppose it was good while it lasted, eh Vaj? I made a post way back, concluding that Vaj had not learned TM. It was obvious from his posts. He has learned lots of other techniques from the internet though. When he says he has been initiated it means he learned something from the internet. (I also, predicted that Turquoise B was a Wino, a fact he has recently confirmed...but he is trying to change that and I wish him well) OffWorld Turquoise B is *not* a Wino... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Has Never Practiced Or Taught TM As Taught By MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turquoise B is *not* a Wino... Doncha know...all of us anti-TMers are winos. Better hide your sheep when we're around, too. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Has Never Practiced Or Taught TM As Taught By MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: Turquoise B is *not* a Wino... Doncha know...all of us anti-TMers are winos. Ah, yes, typical behaviour of winosneed to feel a wino group bonding, then change the subject entirely. It is ok to admit it. It will help you. :-) You said it yourself. Below you are clearly saying that you love cheap wine, but your drinking problem is so bad that you have to stop entirely to make a break from it's destructive effects on your body and mind. Quote from Turquoise B: It's really astounding how many good wines there are here, and how cheap some of them are ...But as it turns out, I haven't had any of them for a few weeks now because I'm on my Summer Get This Old Body Back In Shape Diet and Exercise Program. Aging (as a result of drinking) may not slow down one's mind, but it sure wreaks havoc on one's metabolism. Only a wino would be feeling such long-lasting and bad effects from drinking wine. Most people drink it in moderation and are just fine. Danger sign for your own wellbeing is that winos can never admit that they are winos. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Has Never Practiced Or Taught TM As Taught By MMY
---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've concluded that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't be so misguided on the contrasts between TM and other techniques. Please set the record straight: were you or were you not intiated into TM as taught by MMY.? I know you are a disciple of Norbu Rinpoche, but what technique does he have that equals TM, Dance of the Vajra? In my book, the main consideration is the POWER in the mantra; and the use of the mantra is important, but secondary. POWER of the mantra... hmm is that MMY term? I don't recall him or TM teachers nor advanced technique guys use it.. In regard to the mantra's power, this question can't be resolved through logic; but rather direct experience only. how convenient ... ;) For example, I've been initiated into the Ramakrishna mantra by an authorized Monk but there was little power in that mantra compared to TM. In the Sant Mat tradition alone, I've been initated by representatives of Kirpal Singh, Charan Singh, Thakur Singh, Darshan Singh, and the Eckankar Guru Paul Twitchell. Nope, no power in those mantras!. I've been initiated by Muktananda and Guru Maharaji. Far more power in the TM mantra!. So what's your comparison test? First, were you initiated by an authorized rep of MMY, or not; and how did your experience of TM compare with the mantras of other traditions? If you weren't initiated into TM (as taught by MMY), then you aren't qualified to render an opinion; since the taste test isn't possible without direct experience. And who the Hell is Dana? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Vaj Has Never Practiced Or Taught TM As Taught By MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sinhlnx sinhlnx@ wrote: ---(discussion below - TM and other techniques). Vaj, I've concluded that you were never initiated into TM, otherwise, you wouldn't be so misguided on the contrasts between TM and other techniques. Please set the record straight: were you or were you not intiated into TM as taught by MMY.? I know you are a disciple of Norbu Rinpoche, but what technique does he have that equals TM, Dance of the Vajra? In my book, the main consideration is the POWER in the mantra; and the use of the mantra is important, but secondary. In regard to the mantra's power, this question can't be resolved through logic; but rather direct experience only. For example, I've been initiated into the Ramakrishna mantra by an authorized Monk but there was little power in that mantra compared to TM. In the Sant Mat tradition alone, I've been initated by representatives of Kirpal Singh, Charan Singh, Thakur Singh, Darshan Singh, and the Eckankar Guru Paul Twitchell. Nope, no power in those mantras!. I've been initiated by Muktananda and Guru Maharaji. Far more power in the TM mantra!. So what's your comparison test? First, were you initiated by an authorized rep of MMY, or not; and how did your experience of TM compare with the mantras of other traditions? If you weren't initiated into TM (as taught by MMY), then you aren't qualified to render an opinion; since the taste test isn't possible without direct experience. And who the Hell is Dana? Hi, Excellent detective work sinhlnx! I can confirm your supposition here. Vaj has never been initiated into, nor taught, TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. After I read your piece, I did some research, and some pattern matching, and it is unmistakable. You are correct in asserting that Vaj has been saying 'TM' but meaning mantra meditation, **NOT TM**. It has been his tiny little 'secret', but after reading your words, I had enough clues to know precisely how to look at Vaj to get the answer, and the answer as said is unmistakable and conclusive-- Vaj has never learned TM, Practiced TM, or taught TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. I suspect he will be surprised reading this! So all of this time, he has been claiming to be speaking about TM as a former practitioner and teacher. Not a good thing at all. Pure arrogance on his part. Oh well, I suppose it was good while it lasted, eh Vaj? I thought I recalled he had mentioned his TTC here-- the year and location. Were you able to check that out? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
