[FairfieldLife] The Issue of INTENT

2013-09-03 Thread turquoiseb
Some, whom many suspect are just pissed off that their posts have been
deemed not worthy of reading every word of :-), have suggested in the
past that one cannot get a true picture of what a poster is trying to
say from Message View.
I disagree, but it might be because of my training in the more occult
arts, plus long experience on the Internet since before it was called
that, and on FFL itself. I find it difficult to believe that *anyone*
here can't figure out what a poster whose stuff they've read for years
is on about from the first few words of most of their posts. Once you
know that, and when you realize that you've seen it all before, why read
through all the verbiage again?
Sure, they may do a Robin and say the same thing over and over again,
twenty different ways in one post, but in my experience the what they
were trying to say was clear in the first few words, so why bother with
the rest? More important, I've found that one can get a reliably clear
picture of the INTENT of the post just from those first few lines.
For example, if a poster is replying to pretty much everything another
person writes, even though that person has informed them in the past
that they have no intention of *ever* replying to them again (as a
couple of people have done with Curtis), the INTENT of such a poster is
pretty clear. They're either trying to get the person they're replying
to, or trying to taunt or insult them into changing their mind and
falling into yet another sucker-bait, endless, tarbaby argument-trap.
The same is true if the person has a long, long, long, long track record
of dumping on another poster on the forum, and chooses to mention their
name in the first few lines. You know the instant you see this that it's
going to be a hit post, so why bother to read it, unless you're one of
those people who *gets off* reading such stuff.
My take on Fairfield Life is that very few people seem to notice the
INTENT of people's posts. They get sucked in by the flowery language
used, or by other things, and often don't seem to notice that there is
often no other conceivable purpose for the post *other* than to dump --
once again -- on someone they've developed an obsessive habit of dumping
on.
For me, the deja vu characteristics of such posts just leap out at me
from the first few words of them. I've done experiments in the past --
assessing what the INTENT of certain people's posts are from the first
few words and then reading the whole thing to see if my original
impression was correct -- and I've found that I was rarely wrong.
If you CAN'T do this, I might suggest that there might be something
lacking in *your* reading skills, rather than mine. Just sayin'...



Re: [FairfieldLife] The Issue of INTENT

2013-09-03 Thread Share Long
Well I think I almost immediately pick up the TONE of a post. And it does seem 
that most posters, myself included, have sort of a default tone. But I have 
noticed some changes even in some posters' default tones during the past three 
weeks. Some default tones are more to my liking than others. But so what?! 


Also I've had times when there was no post I wanted to reply to. But then my 
mood improved and there was lots that interested me. And I've noticed that it's 
much more empowering if I stop waiting for *interesting* to appear outside of 
myself!


It's like Maharishi said, one day we throw our friend off. The friend is the 
same. But now they are no good (-:
Yeah, I can feel a certain INTENT in myself. sigh...



 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Issue of INTENT
 


  
Some, whom many suspect are just pissed off that their posts have been deemed 
not worthy of reading every word of :-), have suggested in the past that one 
cannot get a true picture of what a poster is trying to say from Message 
View. 

I disagree, but it might be because of my training in the more occult arts, 
plus long experience on the Internet since before it was called that, and on 
FFL itself. I find it difficult to believe that *anyone* here can't figure out 
what a poster whose stuff they've read for years is on about from the first 
few words of most of their posts. Once you know that, and when you realize that 
you've seen it all before, why read through all the verbiage again?

Sure, they may do a Robin and say the same thing over and over again, twenty 
different ways in one post, but in my experience the what they were trying to 
say was clear in the first few words, so why bother with the rest? More 
important, I've found that one can get a reliably clear picture of the INTENT 
of the post just from those first few lines. 

For example, if a poster is replying to pretty much everything another person 
writes, even though that person has informed them in the past that they have no 
intention of *ever* replying to them again (as a couple of people have done 
with Curtis), the INTENT of such a poster is pretty clear. They're either 
trying to get the person they're replying to, or trying to taunt or insult 
them into changing their mind and falling into yet another sucker-bait, 
endless, tarbaby argument-trap. 

The same is true if the person has a long, long, long, long track record of 
dumping on another poster on the forum, and chooses to mention their name in 
the first few lines. You know the instant you see this that it's going to be a 
hit post, so why bother to read it, unless you're one of those people who 
*gets off* reading such stuff. 

My take on Fairfield Life is that very few people seem to notice the INTENT of 
people's posts. They get sucked in by the flowery language used, or by other 
things, and often don't seem to notice that there is often no other conceivable 
purpose for the post *other* than to dump -- once again -- on someone they've 
developed an obsessive habit of dumping on. 

For me, the deja vu characteristics of such posts just leap out at me from 
the first few words of them. I've done experiments in the past -- assessing 
what the INTENT of certain people's posts are from the first few words and then 
reading the whole thing to see if my original impression was correct -- and 
I've found that I was rarely wrong. 

If you CAN'T do this, I might suggest that there might be something lacking in 
*your* reading skills, rather than mine. Just sayin'...

 

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Issue of INTENT

2013-09-03 Thread iranitea













Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Issue of INTENT

2013-09-03 Thread Share Long
Join online Mensa? (-:





 From: iranitea no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 11:49 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Issue of INTENT
 


  
 It's like Maharishi said, one day we throw our friend off. The friend is the 
same. But now they are no good (-:

I like this. This is another quote of Maharishi I had heard:

'Better an intelligent enemy, than a stupid friend'   What to do?



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


Well I think I almost immediately pick up the TONE of a post. And it does seem 
that most posters, myself included, have sort of a default tone. But I have 
noticed some changes even in some posters' default tones during the past three 
weeks. Some default tones are more to my liking than others. But so what?! 


Also I've had times when there was no post I wanted to reply to. But then my 
mood improved and there was lots that interested me. And I've noticed that it's 
much more empowering if I stop waiting for *interesting* to appear outside of 
myself!


It's like Maharishi said, one day we throw our friend off. The friend is the 
same. But now they are no good (-:
Yeah, I can feel a certain INTENT in myself. sigh...



 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:34 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Issue of INTENT
 


  
Some, whom many suspect are just pissed off that their posts have been deemed 
not worthy of reading every word of :-), have suggested in the past that one 
cannot get a true picture of what a poster is trying to say from Message 
View. 

I disagree, but it might be because of my training in the more occult arts, 
plus long experience on the Internet since before it was called that, and on 
FFL itself. I find it difficult to believe that *anyone* here can't figure out 
what a poster whose stuff they've read for years is on about from the first 
few words of most of their posts. Once you know that, and when you realize that 
you've seen it all before, why read through all the verbiage again?

Sure, they may do a Robin and say the same thing over and over again, twenty 
different ways in one post, but in my experience the what they were trying to 
say was clear in the first few words, so why bother with the rest? More 
important, I've found that one can get a reliably clear picture of the INTENT 
of the post just from those first few lines. 

For example, if a poster is replying to pretty much everything another person 
writes, even though that person has informed them in the past that they have no 
intention of *ever* replying to them again (as a couple of people have done 
with Curtis), the INTENT of such a poster is pretty clear. They're either 
trying to get the person they're replying to, or trying to taunt or insult 
them into changing their mind and falling into yet another sucker-bait, 
endless, tarbaby argument-trap. 

The same is true if the person has a long, long, long, long track record of 
dumping on another poster on the forum, and chooses to mention their name in 
the first few lines. You know the instant you see this that it's going to be a 
hit post, so why bother to read it, unless you're one of those people who 
*gets off* reading such stuff. 

My take on Fairfield Life is that very few people seem to notice the INTENT of 
people's posts. They get sucked in by the flowery language used, or by other 
things, and often don't seem to notice that there is often no other conceivable 
purpose for the post *other* than to dump -- once again -- on someone they've 
developed an obsessive habit of dumping on. 

For me, the deja vu characteristics of such posts just leap out at me from 
the first few words of them. I've done experiments in the past -- assessing 
what the INTENT of certain people's posts are from the first few words and then 
reading the whole thing to see if my original impression was correct -- and 
I've found that I was rarely wrong. 

If you CAN'T do this, I might suggest that there might be something lacking in 
*your* reading skills, rather than mine. Just sayin'...